From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG0103E" ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:44:05 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Catherine Anson Subject: Congrats & Thanks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Now that the Kerths have been awarded, first, my congratulations to all t= he winners. However, what I really want is to take a moment to thank all = the writers who continue to amaze and thrill me with their talents. I usu= ally send feedback privately, and occasionally have put my two cents in o= n the message boards, but I just have to say thanks for helping me in mor= e ways than you can ever imagine. A few months back I had a slight medical problem. A teensy, weensy, littl= e stroke. It managed to scare the bejeezes out of me! With all the medica= tions and endless tests while they try to figure out what is causing my o= utrageous blood pressure, which was the nexus for the teensy, weensy, lit= tle stroke to begin with, I have had a tendency to get extremely angry an= d depressed. A few things reminded me that I am very fortunate. One; my t= errific family; Two; the wonderful stories that continue to transport me = to the wonderful world of L&C, and=E2=80=A6Three; Merry. I was thrilled t= o see her receive everyone's accolades for being the Queen of feedback, b= ut I thought all of you should know just what kind of FOLC she really is. I had only met Merry one time when she and I took a little day trip to me= et Missy, our fellow Texas neighbor. Despite the fact that I had only met= her, when she heard about my problem, she was calling to check on me and= offered to meet me down at the medical center so I wouldn't have to go t= hrough the tests by myself when my husband couldn't go with me. She has b= een there to cheer me up and reminds me that everything is easier to hand= le after you've been able to sit down to lunch with a friend to laugh, gi= ggle, and discuss L&C. I know this will probably embarrass Merry, but I just wanted to say thank= s to her and to all the writers who continue to keep me interested enough= to want to know what happens next! Thanks, Catherine
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========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:55:22 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: First Night VI: Revelation, 4/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lois sat nervously as Clark held her chair for her. The tuxedoed waiter placed an open menu in front of both of them. Lois picked hers up and looked at it. "Clark, I don't think I can do this." Clark covered one of her small hands with his larger one. "Lois, you'll be fine. I'm right here. I won't go anywhere." "What if a call comes in?" They were lucky that calls for Superman hadn't interrupted too much of their time together yet, but they knew it was inevitable. "I won't go. Unless it's something REALLY big. I promise." "Lois!" A female voice called a little too loudly from across the elegant restaurant. Lois groaned. "It's Lucy." She stood and gave her sister a hug. Lucy put her hand out to Clark. "Mr. Kent. So nice to see you again. Is your wife joining us?" Lois and Clark shared a look. Lois spoke up. "Oh, just give your brother-in-law a hug, Aunt Lucy." Lucy collapsed into the chair that Clark quickly pulled out for her. "You mean that you two... married? Does Mom know?" "Yes and no. We've been married a little over two weeks. Mom and Dad don't know. Jimmy found out this morning, but I made him promise not to tell." "No wonder he didn't come home before I had to leave to come here. I wanted him to make sure I looked okay for a place like this." "You look fine, Luce." "Well, Clark, welcome to the family I guess." A look appeared on Lucy's face. "Did you say 'Aunt Lucy'?" Lois smiled. "Yes. I'm pregnant." Lucy's head fell back onto the chair. "Mom and Dad are going to freak." "That's why I was hoping that you'd get here first so you can help me keep her calm." "What about Dad?" "What about him? I haven't talked to him in ages. I suppose I should call him." "You think?" The sarcasm in Lucy's voice was hardly hidden. Lois sighed. "I'm putting it off." Clark had a funny look on his face. Lucy was the first to question it. "Clark, is everything okay?" Clark covered quickly. "I need to make a phone call. I completely forgot." He looked pleadingly at his wife. "I'll be right back, I promise." Lois nodded. He kissed her on the cheek and left quickly. A ten car pile-up. He hoped he'd be back soon. Lois shouldn't have to do this alone. As soon as Clark was out of earshot, or so Lucy thought, she turned on Lois. "Lois, what happened to CJ?" Lois sighed, but then her eyes lit up. "Clark *is* CJ." "WHAT?!" "SHHH! Keep your voice down!" Lois hissed. "Sorry. Clark is CJ?" "Yes, he is. Perry hired him and made him my new partner. He knew pretty quickly that I was the Lois he fell in love with in D. C., but it took me longer. In fact, we were already married before I knew who he was. He told me right after. It was a really weird wedding and I really don't want Mom and Dad to know how the wedding happened so I'll tell you the whole story later. We're just going to tell them that we eloped. I need to remember to tell Clark that. We haven't talked about it." "What about his parents?" "They are amazing people. They're really nice. You'll love them. They're planning on coming out soon. They know everything." "Hmm, I can't wait. What's Clark going to think of Mom and Dad?" Lois sighed. "I don't know. I don't know what *I* think of Mom and Dad, much less what Clark is going to think." Lucy looked over Lois' shoulder. "Well, here comes Mom now." "Not a word. Let me tell her after Clark gets back." "Fine. MOM!" Lucy stood to give Ellen Lane a hug. "Hello, Lucy. Lois." Ellen's voice was cold and impersonal. Lois sighed. This REALLY was not going to be easy. "Hi, Mom." Lois gave her a hug and then sat back down, careful to keep her left hand under the table. Ellen sat down and looked around the restaurant. "Where's your father?" Lois shrugged. "I don't know. Why?" "When I called to check the reservations - I didn't think you'd be able to pull off reservations at a nice place like this on such short notice - they told me they were for four people. I assumed the fourth person was your father. So, I called him, left him a message and he left me a message saying that he was going to be here." Lois groaned. This was not going well. ***** Meanwhile, Superman flew to the site of the crash. It was a ten-car pile up, but it was mainly fender benders. There was only one semi-major injury and the ambulance was already there to take care of that. He was immediately drawn to an irate man whose car was in the middle of the pile up. It wasn't going anywhere for a while. He would have recognized that voice anywhere. "What do you mean, you can't get my car out?" The man was yelling at the helpless police officer. Superman landed in front of the two. "Is this gentleman giving you some problems, Officer Doze?" Superman had worked with this officer on several other occasions. "Superman." The relief in the voice of the officer was obvious. "Maybe you can help. Can you get his car out without messing up the crime scene?" Superman looked carefully at the car and its relative position to the rest of the accident. "I don't think I can." The man turned his wrath on the superhero. "I'm late for a dinner appointment with my daughters. I was supposed to be there already. You're a superhero. GET MY CAR OUT!" Superman's eyes widened slightly. It couldn't be. "Well, Mr. ..." "Lane. Dr. Sam Lane." It could be possible. "Dr. Lane, where are you meeting your daughters? Perhaps I could help you get there." "How do you plan on doing that, flyboy?" It sounded so much nastier than when Lois said it. "Well, I DO fly, you know. And since you are Dr. Sam Lane, I assume that your daughter is Lois Lane from the Daily Planet." "Yes." "Well, Ms. Lane and her partner, Mr. Kent, have been good friends to me since I arrived. I could fly you as a personal favor to them." "Well, I guess." Sam didn't look too sure about this decision. "I assure you, I haven't dropped anyone yet." *Well, only once,* thought Superman as he remembered dropping his wife into the Caribbean off of their island. He'd have to remember to make arrangements to buy the darn island. He knew of an undiscovered gold mine in Siberia. He only used it for real emergencies. "Fine. Let's go. How do we do this flying thing?" "Like this." Superman thought for a minute. He couldn't fly with his father-in-law the way he flew with his wife. He sighed and scooped Sam Lane into his arms, holding him farther away than he would have most other people. "HEY! Be careful!" "Sorry, sir. Are you ready?" "I guess." "I believe Lois said the dinner was at Antonio's?" "Correct." Sam looked and sounded nervous. "It will take us about five minutes to get there." "Fine. Let's go." Superman took off slowly and headed toward the restaurant. Sam Lane couldn't control his nervousness. "I don't suppose you know anything about this new guy in my daughter's life." "Sir?" "My ex-wife called me today to tell me that some man is living with Lois and that we were meeting for dinner tonight at eight. I can't believe Lois is living with some man. I love my little girl, but she's never had the best taste in anything, much less men. Ever since that little incident in Washington. She wanted to go to the movies with some hick from Nowheresville and I wouldn't let her. The desk clerk told me later that they were making out in the lobby. Lois denied it, but I know she was lying. Her ears turn red when she's lying. Ever since then, she's been more and more defiant and her taste in men has gone farther and farther downhill." It was all Superman could do to keep from dropping the man onto his head. He was sure that this man was so thick-headed that it wouldn't hurt, even from fifteen stories up. He would've thought Lois inherited her babble gene from her mother, but apparently her father was a master as well. "If this new guy thinks that he can just come in and take over my daughter's life, he's got another think coming. I know I haven't always been around for my girls, but I won't let some hack ruin what career she has." Superman didn't think he'd be able to take much more. Fortunately, Antonio's was in sight. "Here we are, sir." They landed just outside the door and Superman couldn't set Sam down fast enough. Sam looked surprised when Superman walked inside with him. Superman whispered something to the head waiter, who nodded. The waiter then motioned for another tuxedoed man to show Sam to the table. Superman left, flying off into the night. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:54:53 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: First Night VI: Revelation, 3/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The walk to work was entirely too short for Lois' taste. "How are we going to do this, Clark? Do we want to tell everyone right away or do we want to wait until after we talk to my mom tonight? Perry already knows. We know that. And do we tell him about the baby? Do we tell my mom about the baby tonight? Or do we wait until she's had a chance to absorb the whole marriage news? Would it be better to get it all over with at once? Or... " Clark didn't care that they were in the middle of the sidewalk. He took her arm and turned her so that they were facing each other. Then he leaned down and kissed her softly. "You were babbling." "Clark, we're in public!" "Who cares? Everyone will know soon anyway." "I care. Now come on. You haven't answered any of my questions." She kissed him quickly to show that she really wasn't mad. "It's up to you, honey. But I think we may have just let part of the cat out of the bag." Clark turned. "Hi, Jimmy." "Hi, CK. Hi, Lois." Jimmy had a puzzled look on his face. "Um, guys, I know it's really none of my business, but wouldn't CJ and, uh, Mrs. Kent, be upset if they saw you two kissing." Clark looked at the ground and Lois stared intently into her coffee. Clark spoke first. "Well, Jimmy. There is someone I want you to meet. Mrs. Kent, Jimmy. Jimmy, Mrs. Lois Lane-Kent." Jimmy's mouth hung open. Lois responded. "Now, Clark, we haven't agreed that I'm taking your name. I haven't decided yet if I want to get rid of my name or hyphenate it or anything." She linked her arm with his. "But I think I'll let the baby have your name." Jimmy was dumbfounded. "You mean... You two... Married? Lois? Baby? I need to sit down." Clark put a supporting hand on his elbow and led him to a nearby bench. "Breathe, Jimmy. You're starting to hyperventilate." It took Jimmy a couple of minutes to calm down. "Okay. So you two are married. And that makes you CJ, the guy that Lois has been pining away for all these years. And you're having a baby. Whoa. This is heavy. I mean, Clark, you could have told me you were Superman and I wouldn't have been more surprised." Lois and Clark shared a look and tried to suppress grins. "Does anyone else know?" Clark answered. "My folks know. We think Perry suspects that we're married, but not about the baby. We're going out for dinner with Lois' mom tonight." "Man, when you two decide to drop a bombshell on a guy, you really know how to do it." Lois took that one. "We're gonna be late for work. And not a word, Jimmy." She glared at him. "*I* want to be the one to tell my sister." "No problem, Lois." As much as Jimmy thought he was falling in love with Lucy Lane, he feared her sister's wrath more. ***** Perry saw the three of them get off the elevator. Happy as he was for them, he wasn't looking forward to the conversation he was about to have with Lois and Clark. Something looked different today, though. Jimmy looked a little odd and Lois and Clark were looking happier than they had in weeks. Maybe they had already started telling people. *Well, there's no time like the present to find out.* "LOIS! CLARK! My office! NOW!" The couple shared a look and headed towards his office. "Clark, are we sure we're ready for this?" "Too late now. Let's go." They entered Perry's office and sat on the couch, looking for all the world like two teenagers in the principal's office. "Okay, you two. Out with it." Lois and Clark looked at each other. Clark nodded slightly. Lois took a deep breath and jumped in. "Perry, there's something we need to tell you. Clark is CJ. We got married after Luthor's White Orchid Ball and we've - I've - been hiding it ever since. And... " "Lois, why didn't you tell me? You know I wouldn't tell anyone if you didn't want me to, and I could have helped you. You know you can trust me." "I know, Perry. But you know me and my fear of failure. I didn't want anyone to know until I knew it was going to work. None of it was Clark's fault. He wanted to tell everyone right away." She couldn't explain it even to herself, but Lois was close to tears. Clark moved so he was sitting next to her. He wrapped one large arm around her and pulled her close. "It's okay, honey. It'll all be okay." Perry himself was struggling with his emotions. He was prepared to be mad at them, but somehow, seeing Lois - who he loved like a daughter - in tears and being comforted by her obviously caring husband was almost too much for him. "Aw, hell's bells, kids. Don't worry, Lois. Clark's right. Everything will be fine." Tears were coming for real now. Clark looked at Perry, feeling as helpless as he ever had. Perry looked back at him and shrugged. Clark knew more about what was going on than he did. "Lois, honey, what is it? Why are you so upset?" Clark held her close and gently stroked her hair. Lois sat back and wiped her eyes. "Nothing. I'm fine." Clark and Perry shared a look. They both knew that everything wasn't fine, but that now wasn't the time to push Lois. Lois saw the look and felt the need to explain. "No, really. I'm fine. I think it's just hormones." "Do you want me to tell him, honey?" Perry was surprised. He thought he knew what was going on. "Tell me what?" Lois nodded and Clark started to speak. "Well, Perry, it's like this. We've been married for about two weeks now. Yesterday we found out, that, uh, well, Lois is pregnant." "WHAT?!" Perry couldn't believe his ears. "Pregnant? When? How?" Perry stopped as he realized just what he was saying. Clark had an embarrassed smile on his face and Lois laughed as she said, "Come on, Perry, you don't really need to ask us that do you?" He looked at Lois with an impish grin. "But I really am glad that we waited till after we got married!" Lois groaned and Perry turned red. "No, kids, I really don't need to know. I DO have kids of my own, you know. When's the big day?" "I don't know, I haven't been to the doctor yet. I'm going to call him this morning and set up an appointment." "Well, you let me know if you need anything. Time off, whatever. I'll do what I can to help." Lois smiled. "I know, Perry. Please, don't tell anyone yet. Clark's parents know and Jimmy knows, but that's it. We're going out for dinner tonight with my mom and maybe my sister. I know that you had it figured out last week. Thanks for not tearing into us, and for giving us the weekend off. We really needed the time together." "So, how did this happen, kids? I can't imagine you did this without being drunk or something and I know both of you better than that." "It was really weird, wasn't it, Clark?" Clark nodded. "We left the ball, and some guy told us to follow him and next thing we knew we were married. I thought I was the maid of honor, Clark the best man, but the next thing we knew, we were kissing. I was outraged." "I can imagine." Lois shot a look at him. "We talked in the street and Clark finally helped me realize that he was CJ and the rest is history. It's been two weeks of ups and downs, but," she reached over and took Clark's hand, "we're going to be fine. And we're going to be a family." "Who was this guy?" "He said his name was Wells." Lois' face puckered in thought. "You know, I'd like to talk to him and find out who those other people were. There were three others there and I want to find out all I can. I know it's no story, Perry, but I'm doing it anyway." Perry and Clark shared a look. There was no stopping her now. "Fine, Lois. But as your editor, I'm telling you to do it on your own time." "I will, Perry. And thanks again." "No problem, honey. So, are you going by Kent now?" Lois groaned. "Why does everyone keep asking me that?" Clark laughed at her. "Lois, sweetie. It is the common practice for a married woman to change her name. But I love you just the way you are, so you don't have to change it if you don't want to." Perry grinned. "You always were a little different, Lois." "Well, if this is turning into a pick on Lois session, I'm leaving. We still haven't found any more information to prove Marvin right about the Secretary of State." Perry gave her his best editor smile. "Lois, the story may not be there. Why don't you two see if there's anything on the Superman front? We haven't seen him in a couple of days." "Well, there wasn't anything last weekend either, Chief," Clark pointed out. "True. You two seem to know him. Find out if he takes the weekends off. If so, that could mean more crime on the weekends and less during the week." Clark tried not to roll his eyes. "Come on, Chief. I'm sure it's just a coincidence." "Find out." Perry went to sit at his desk, indicating that the meeting was over. Lois and Clark stood to leave. "And, kids, congratulations. I really am happy for you. All three of you." Lois and Clark shared a smile. Lois walked over to the desk and pulled Perry out of his chair. She gave him a big hug. "Thanks, Perry. That means a lot to us." Perry swallowed hard and responded in a gruff voice, "Fine, now get out of here. Get to work." ***** "Lois, you look fine." The long day at work was finally over and Lois was standing in front of the mirror. She was trying on the fourth dress in the last twenty minutes. Clark lay across the bed, fingers laced behind his head, watching his very nervous wife. "Clark, I don't know." "All of the dresses look fine, sweetie. You look beautiful." Lois stuck her tongue out at him. "You're biased." She stood examining her profile in the full-length mirror. "I won't be able to wear any of these dresses for much longer." She flopped down onto the bed next to her husband. "I'm going to get fat." "Lois, honey, you are not going to get fat. You're pregnant. There's a big difference." Clark supported himself with one elbow. He looked at the beautiful woman lying next to him. He rubbed her stomach with his other hand. "Right here is a little baby that is going to grow and your body is going to give him or her the room. That's all." "Still. Are you sure this dress is okay? For Antonio's?" "Lois, you look gorgeous." The black dress clung in all the right places. He stood up and buttoned his jacket. "What about me? Do I look okay? Or should I wear a tux?" He really didn't care - he was just trying to get her mind on something else. Lois stood up and looked at him critically. "You'll do, I guess. And, no, I don't think you need a tux. Not tonight anyway." Clark raised one eyebrow. "I'll do?" She unbuttoned the button, brushed his shoulders and straightened his jacket. "Yeah, I guess you'll do." "If you're not nicer than that, geek... " "What are you going to do, you big dope. Kiss me?" Lois stood very close to her husband. "Hmmm, that's a good idea. Maybe I can convince you that I'm really okay," Clark answered softly. "You can sure try," Lois answered in equally soft tones. Clark lowered his face to her and gave her a soft, gentle kiss. He moved back slightly. "How was that?" "You'll do." "We better go. Is your sister meeting us, too?" Lois backed up to look in the mirror again. "Yes. Jimmy called her for me today and told her when and where to meet us." Clark moved to stand behind her, arms around her waist. "Are you nervous?" "Very. Are you?" "I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a little nervous. Your sister seemed to like me, though." "She's going to kill me for not telling her sooner. At least now she'll know to keep her hands off." Lois smiled at her husband's reflection in the mirror. "You're all mine." Clark kissed her neck. "Yes, I am. You ready?" Lois sighed. "As ready as I'll ever be." "Then, milady, shall we?" Clark offered her his arm. Lois took the arm. "We shall." ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:54:30 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: First Night VI: Revelation, 2/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all. I have been posting this on the boards and forgot to post it here! I am going to catch you up to them at least! (If anyone is still reading this here anyway!) FDK is always appreciated! CM ***** By the time Lois and Clark made it downstairs, Jonathan and Martha were already there, sitting at the table drinking coffee. The elder Kents exchanged a look as their son and his wife entered the kitchen. The two were holding hands and looking very happy. Lois still had tear-stained cheeks, but her smile was real. Martha gave her a questioning look and Lois gave a barely perceptible nod of her head. Martha squeezed Jonathan's hand. Jonathan cleared his throat. "So, what's new with you two this morning?" Martha laughed. "Jonathan, I love you, but you are about as subtle as a whack upside the head!" Lois grinned, Clark blushed and Jonathan replied, "Well, I don't see you asking." "Fine. Are we going to be grandparents or not?" Martha demanded. Lois and Clark shared a look. Clark, reading what her eyes were saying, nodded. Martha and Jonathan were both out of their chairs in an instant. Martha held Lois close while Jonathan rested his hand on Clark's back. Jonathan was fighting to hold back tears. "Congratulations, son. I know that this is what you've always wanted." Clark gave his father a big hug, struggling with his own emotions. "Dad, I'm going to be a dad." "I know." Next Clark was in his mother's arms. She made no attempt to stop the tears coming down her face. "I am so proud of you; so proud of the man that you have become. And so happy for you and your wife and your baby." He stood there listening to his mother and letting her do what she needed to do - hold her son and marvel at the miracles of life. Jonathan had given Lois a hug and a gruff, "Congratulations," and the two of them stood, watching the mother and son share a special moment. Tears welled up in Lois' eyes as she realized that this could be her in twenty-five years. She could be the one holding her child, finding out that she was going to be a grandmother, and she realized that as much as she loved her work and her independence, there was nothing compared to having a family. A family was what would really make her life complete. She could be happy with her job and her husband, but, seeing the joy of her mother-in-law and how happy she was, Lois reached an epiphany. Without a family, what was the purpose of the job and the rest of her success? It would ultimately be empty and hollow without people to share it with. Realizing this, Lois could no longer hold back the tears of joy. But then another thought hit her. How could she ever measure up to this amazing woman who stood in front of her? Her mother was an alcoholic and her dad hadn't been a shining example of parenthood. How was she going to do this? She loved Clark, and she knew she would love this baby too, but she knew her options were becoming more and more limited. The tears of joy changed to tears of fear. She wasn't so sure about this after all. Clark heard the change in her breathing. He released his mom and took his wife into his arms. He whispered, "It'll be okay, honey. We'll figure it out." Lois stepped back and put on a brave face. "Of course, it'll be okay. What's not to be okay? Everything will be fine. We'll be great parents. You'll be a great dad and I'll be a... " Lois swallowed, "great mom. It'll be fine." Clark knew she wasn't as okay with all of this as she claimed to be, but he also realized that she wasn't ready to talk about it. There would be time for that later, when Lois wanted to. ***** Clark flew Lois home as soon as it grew dark. His parents held them a little longer and a little closer before they left. Lois had her arms wrapped around Clark's waist and her head on his chest. As they flew, she kissed his chest and ran her hands up and down his back. She didn't mind loosening her grip anymore; she knew Clark wouldn't let her fall. Somewhere over Ohio, Clark stopped in midair. He stood there and looked down at his wife as she placed one more soft kiss on his chest. "You know, if you keep doing that, we may not make it home." Lois looked up at him with big innocent eyes. "Stop doing what? This?" She kissed his chest again. "Yes, that. You, my dear, are distracting me from flying. If you're not careful, we'll end up in Japan instead of our room at home." "Hmm, wouldn't want to end up in Japan. The Caribbean maybe, but not Japan." "Would you rather go to the Caribbean, honey?" Clark asked seriously. She kissed his collar bone. "Not tonight. Maybe next weekend. Right now I just want to go home." She kissed his Adam's apple. Clark groaned. "We'll be there in a minute." And he flew towards Metropolis as fast as he dared. ***** Minutes later, Clark landed them inside *their* apartment. He stepped back from her long enough to spin out of the Superman suit and into his black silk boxers and his black shirt. Lois let out a low, appreciative whistle. "If you're going to look like that, then I get to go change into something sexy." Clark took her into his arms and leaned down to nibble on her neck. "You look incredibly sexy just the way you are." Lois laughed and pushed him away. "Still. You wait here. I'll be right back." "Lois..." "No arguing." Lois walked towards her room, and just before she disappeared she turned and winked at him. "Be right back, Flyboy," she said in a soft, sultry voice. Clark flopped onto the couch with a groan. "HURRY!" Lois called from the other room. "And no x-ray vision either!" "I wouldn't dream of it!" "Yes, you would." "You're right, I would, but I'll be good. I promise." "As long as you're not good for too long." "I thought I was the one who was supposed to be good and you were the one who wasn't." "In a few minutes, you'll wish I was being a good girl!" Clark just groaned again. "Never!" "Clark." Clark turned to see his wife, a vision of loveliness in a burgundy outfit of some sort that he couldn't describe. He stood and was by her side in an instant. "Wow. You look amazing. Do you keep stuff like this just lying around in case a cute guy comes by?" His voice was soft. "I got it last week. You said you'd like to see me in burgundy." Her voice matched his. "Do you like it?" Clark didn't answer. He scooped Lois up into his arms and kissed her, his lips never leaving hers as he floated them into the bedroom. Laying her on the bed, he lowered himself gently on top of her, still expressing in his kiss all the love and passion that was in his heart. No more words were necessary as Lois opened up her soul completely and became lost in the depth of his love for her. ***** "Clark, you never answered my question," Lois murmured sleepily against her husband's chest. "What question was that?" "Did you like my outfit?" Clark laughed and looked at the burgundy cloth, now hanging from a potted plant across the room. "What do you think?" "I think that there is nothing I like better than being in your arms. And I think that I am glad you don't have to go home tonight." "I am home, Lois." He kissed the top of her head. "I love you, my little tornado." "I love you, my little snuggle bunny." And they fell asleep wrapped in each other's arms. ***** "Hello?" A sleepy Clark answered the ringing phone. "Who is this?" the voice demanded. "Clark Kent. Who's this?" Clark still wasn't awake enough to realize he wasn't answering his own phone. "Who is it, honey?" came his wife's own sleepy voice. "Let me talk to Lois," the voice demanded again. "It's for you, sweetie." Clark handed Lois the phone and laid his head back on his pillow. Lois propped herself up on one arm. "Hello?" "LOIS!" "MOM! Where are you? I thought you were in Europe for another two weeks." "Who was that, Lois?" Her mom ignored the question. A sleepy "Who is it?" came from the other side of the bed as Clark rolled over and put an arm around his wife. Lois covered the mouthpiece and hissed, "My mom." Clark was still having difficulty processing. "Tell her I said 'hi'." "Clark!" She turned her attention back to the phone. "Why are you calling, mom?" "I'm in Metropolis and I thought that I could see you. IF you're not too busy for me, with this guy and all." Lois stared at the ceiling. "Mom, I'm never too busy for you. How about dinner tonight? We need to talk." "You're right. We do. Tonight is fine. I want to have a long talk with you. You know how I feel about you getting involved with men. Dinner. At Angelina's." "Why don't you come over here for dinner, Mom?" "Have you learned how to cook yet?" "No." "Then meet me at eight." "Okay. I'll make reservations at Antonio's. We'll see you at eight. Bye, Mom." "What 'we'? Lois, did you say Antonio's? No one can get reservations at Antonio's. What do you mean by 'we'?" But Lois didn't hear as she hung up the phone. "What'd your mom want, honey?" Clark was more awake, but somehow had missed the whole conversation - kind of odd for a guy with super hearing. "She wanted to know who you were." Clark sat up next to her. "I probably shouldn't have answered the phone, huh?" Lois sighed. "It's okay. We had to tell her sooner or later. We're meeting her for dinner at Antonio's tonight. Unless you don't want to come." The apprehensive tone in her voice made it obvious what she wanted. "I'll be there for you, you know that." "I know." "How are you and our baby doing this morning?" Clark rubbed his hand on Lois' stomach. "We're fine. I need to call my doctor this morning and make an appointment." "That's something that we need to talk about. What if this baby isn't... normal? What if there is something different about the baby? Something wrong?" "We'll worry about that if and when it happens. I think that this is going to be a good pregnancy and a normal child. Well, as normal as any child with such a 'super' dad could be." Clark groaned. "Lois, you really don't need to make so many 'super' comments you know." "But I like to." Lois looked at the clock. "We better get going. It's bound to be a big day. Remember last Monday? No one needed Superman for the whole time we were on the island, and as soon as we showed up at work, boom! Every criminal in Metropolis came out of the woodwork. I just hope it isn't like that today. I'd like you around while everyone gets used to us being married." Clark gave her a soft kiss. "In that case, we better get ready or we're gonna be late." "I know. Come on." Lois pushed back the covers and realized that she had never gotten dressed after their little rendezvous the night before. She quickly covered herself back up. Clark laughed. "It's okay, honey. I understand. It's going to take some getting used to. I'm gonna go hop in the shower." He kissed her again and walked to the bathroom, taking the comforter with him. Lois leaned back against the headboard, watching her husband's strong back disappeared into the bathroom. She laughed when the comforter came flying back out and the shower turned on. "Watch out, mister, or I might come in after you." "You wouldn't! We don't have that kind of time." Lois sighed. "You're right. Now hurry, I need a shower, too." Clark stood in front of her, hair wet and wrapped in a towel, water still running. "It's all yours, my dear." "How do you do that?" Clark was next to her in a second, back against the headboard, long legs stretched out in front of him, towel firmly in place. "Super speed." He kissed her. Lois groaned. "Okay, my turn. Too bad we're not going to have time for breakfast. I'd love some of those pancakes of yours." She took the sheet and went into the bathroom. Clark caught the sheet with a laugh and gently blew at the door so it wouldn't slam behind her. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 00:49:03 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all. I am betareading a story and this topic came up and I wanted to see what the general consensus is. I'd appreciate any responses. In the story I am reading, there is two people talking through Instant messaging. I have seen this in several other places recently and not just LC fanfic. My personal pet peeve wants them to spell out "c u" as "see you" and "r u" as "are you" and so on. Is there a preference either way? Do you prefer to see things spelled out, even though that probably isn't how it is really done? (I've never been on the IRC or used instant messging so I don't know for sure.) Just curious and you help is as always appreciated! CM ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 23:10:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions In-Reply-To: <20010329.004910.-4100429.1.cmoncado@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >In the story I am reading, there is two people talking through Instant >messaging. I have seen this in several other places recently and not >just LC fanfic. My personal pet peeve wants them to spell out "c u" as >"see you" and "r u" as "are you" and so on. Is there a preference either >way? Do you prefer to see things spelled out, even though that probably >isn't how it is really done? (I've never been on the IRC or used instant >messging so I don't know for sure.) Carol, these are common abbreviations on IRC and other chat programs. In email they drive me nuts, but IRC et al are real time, and you have to type fast to get your message across. So you abbreviate. Prolly. CU. RU. You don't bother (usually) to correct typos. And you *don't* bother with complete sentences. RU and CU bug me to death and I try not to use them myself. But lots of ppl (that's another abbreviation we use), especially the younger set, do. Oy, I think I just dated myself - the younger set? Damn! Anyway, it's your call and your author's. Good luck... Melisma (under her Rock, feeling ancient) Visit my rock at http://www.intergate.ca/personal/melisma/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 01:18:19 -0600 Reply-To: truitt22@flash.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: timothy truitt Organization: tnt technical services Subject: Re: Congrats & Thanks MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You're right Catherine, you did. Thanks. merry Catherine Anson wrote: > Now that the Kerths have been awarded, first, my congratulations to all the winners. However, what I really want is to take a moment to thank all the writers who continue to amaze and thrill me with their talents. I usually send feedback privately, and occasionally have put my two cents in on the message boards, but I just have to say thanks for helping me in more ways than you can ever imagine. > A few months back I had a slight medical problem. A teensy, weensy, little stroke. It managed to scare the bejeezes out of me! With all the medications and endless tests while they try to figure out what is causing my outrageous blood pressure, which was the nexus for the teensy, weensy, little stroke to begin with, I have had a tendency to get extremely angry and depressed. A few things reminded me that I am very fortunate. One; my terrific family; Two; the wonderful stories that continue to transport me to the wonderful world of L&C, and…Three; Merry. I was thrilled to see her receive everyone's accolades for being the Queen of feedback, but I thought all of you should know just what kind of FOLC she really is. > I had only met Merry one time when she and I took a little day trip to meet Missy, our fellow Texas neighbor. Despite the fact that I had only met her, when she heard about my problem, she was calling to check on me and offered to meet me down at the medical center so I wouldn't have to go through the tests by myself when my husband couldn't go with me. She has been there to cheer me up and reminds me that everything is easier to handle after you've been able to sit down to lunch with a friend to laugh, giggle, and discuss L&C. > I know this will probably embarrass Merry, but I just wanted to say thanks to her and to all the writers who continue to keep me interested enough to want to know what happens next! > Thanks, Catherine
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========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:08:33 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 03/29/2001 2:08:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, melisma@INTERGATE.CA writes: << Carol, these are common abbreviations on IRC and other chat programs. In email they drive me nuts, but IRC et al are real time, and you have to type fast to get your message across. So you abbreviate. Prolly. CU. RU. You don't bother (usually) to correct typos. And you *don't* bother with complete sentences. RU and CU bug me to death and I try not to use them myself. But lots of ppl (that's another abbreviation we use), especially the younger set, do. Oy, I think I just dated myself - the younger set? >> Funny, I was just thinking that I don't see them on IRC at all, nor in instant messaging friends/colleagues, but my 10 year old nephew DOES use them in instant messaging me! --Laurie (who doesn't really think Mel is 10) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:21:04 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Review: Man of Steel Bars Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed [First of all, I've been away for nearly two weeks, so let me congratulate the Kerth winners, Kathy on her immiment retirement and salute a job superbly done, and Labrat on her promotion. I'll be disappearing again shortly as I move, and I don't have time to check out Zoom's mbs as yet, but I thought I would squeeze this in. :)] This one was a bit of a surprise! I just returned from a very unexpected trip to the States. On the way back, I was walking down the aisle to stretch my legs when I caught a glimpse of one passenger's screen. (This was a Continental flight, which features individual screens for passengers and several options for viewing.) There was Lois -- *our* Lois -- marching into Clark's apartment with a bag full of groceries! They're showing LOIS AND CLARK on the airplane?! I'd never bothered watching videos on flights before, but *this* was different! I quickly scurried back to my seat and flipped frantically through the channels in search of the right one. At last I found it: the drama channel, the last feature of three superhero shows. (Wonder Woman and Incredible Hulk were first. There's no accounting for taste. ) The flight was long enough to allow me to catch the entire ep twice more, so I could watch it in full. This ep was on my wish list, although not in the top five. ("Tempus, Anyone?" still holds the #1 spot. ) I expected to enjoy it. I did. :) It was fun to watch a Clark who is still uncertain of his background; to see Lex in full manipulative mode (he looked incredibly boyish in the knock-knock scene; it's the first time I could ever see how Lois could be attracted to him); and to have an ep crammed full of strong, intelligent women. It seemed as if all the characters were very strongly themselves in this ep (if that makes sense). Lois, in full reporter mode, pushes the very question that Lex wants to be asked. She is fiercely defensive when she discusses the matter with Perry; yet Perry himself is only doing his job, and does come through for Superman when integrity permits it. "Way to be neutral, Chief." This is also the first ep I've seen with first season Jimmy taking an active role, and I liked what I saw. Mind you, I still like the other Jimmy better. :) But it seemed as if *this* Jimmy had a much stronger rapport with Lois, and that she treated him more like an equal than she will in later seasons. Is this because Clark is not yet a full confidant and partner? As Clark zooms off to save the day (and it was fun to see a full scene that I'd only glimpsed in Karen's marvelous video when he held up the live wires), we segue to Lex and discover that He Is Behind It All (tm). I can't help but wonder if anyone else found Lex's "slave girls" offensive? I'm assuming the woman who spoke of the injunction was the city DA (no copy at hand to examine for extra details, sniff). What *is* it with Superman and DAs? There's this one; there's Mayson, who was very much anti-Superman; and IIRC, the guy who makes all the trouble in DLW is also the city DA. The judge, OTOH -- oh, I loved her. She was just *great*. I almost laughed out loud when she showed everyone her gavel and told them it was the international symbol for them to shut up. And the way she handled everyone, from Superman to the DA to Perry -- just priceless. (As a side note, a poster from a different list recently observed that TV shows almost always have black women judges in an effort to be PC, while the reality is far from this. Is this true?) I had a little trouble with the confrontation with the prisoner just outside the courtroom. The judge, once again, was superb: she clearly hated to do it (she'd been openly admiring of Superman before), but she upholds the law and places him under arrest. But why, *why* did Clark choose to use those powers? A quick repositioning (with, perhaps, a *tiny* burst of superspeed) to interpose his invulnerable body between the innocents and the prisoner would have done the trick; in fact, sheer intimidation might have done it. (The prisoner, after all, has no way of knowing what happened in the courtroom and that Supes agreed to stop using his powers.) But even after the man has been disarmed, Clark chose to bodily lift him and swagger over to the other cops with the guy -- a flagrant, unnecessary use of his superstrength. Quite frankly, I think he *deserved* to be arrested. Onto the next scene, which had me grinning broadly and stifling snickers through both viewings. What looks like a whole SWAT team marching Superman down the hall; the entire booking process, complete with domino file cabinets, fingerprinting, and pics; Clark's surreptitious call to Perry; and the way Superman pats the policemen on the back reassuringly as he steps into the cell. The final scene in the prison was, to me, less funny. I do know there's a famous quote along the lines of, "There are three things you should never do: Don't spit in the wind, don't tug on Superman's cape, and don't mess with Jim." Or something like that. Yet Clark's refusal to do something felt wrong. *Especially* when he peeked through his fingers. ;) In the next scene at the courtroom, I found Clark's jumping out of the spilled coffee's way to be very unrealistic. Either he's thinking as Superman, who will not be burned by splashed coffee, or he's thinking as Clark, who had better not fly out of spilled coffee's way at the DP! So why do it? And while we're on the subject, *can* his suit get stained? His cape, yes; but the suit ought to be protected from stains by his aura. Is there any canonical evidence of the suit getting stained? (When Lex is testing Clark, and Martha advises him to "dab, don't rub," I don't remember what was bomb stained. I haven't seen that one yet either.) The applause from the crowd didn't make much sense in the circumstances, but maybe they liked the DA's line about Supes being an "obvious flight risk." "Sold! You try it for a while." The scene in Perry's office was hysterical from start to finish. Clark as Superman hearing stories he's doubtless heard countless times before, yet having to pretend that they're new and fascinating; Cat "breathing" Superman; Lois desperate not to argue in front of Superman; and the two satellites following Clark out of the room, with Perry grinning knowingly. Delicious! It was quite interesting to see Clark suddenly forced to do *everything* without his powers. I had to grin to see him rummage in the depths of his cupboard for his kettle, and most likely do the same again when he needed to find the matches to light the gas (if Lois hadn't interrupted). It was good to see him being conscious of the need not to use his powers. OTOH, he quite obviously used them to speed-switch to Superman -- yet instead of slicking his hair back as he always did, he used the water from the kettle. Does that mean that he usually invokes some power to do the job for him? And I mustn't skim over this scene without that hysterical question from Lois: "Does the suit come off?" This scene, too, I've read many times on quotes pages; but to see Lois' expression at the question, as well as the tone of her hasty, "Oh, no, neither would I, of course not," made it a thousand times funnier. I don't remember the scientist's name -- Doctor Saxon, maybe? -- but it was interesting to discover just how carefully Lex had plotted the smear campaign. Just out of curiousity, how many people think Saxon survived the episode? Lex wouldn't have wanted to leave any potential witnesses to testify against him. Clark turns himself in and offers to leave. Maybe it's just me, but the article Clark writes is much more poignant than the actual event. I dunno, maybe it was the kid's haircut. ;) Lois doesn't give up. She really does save Superman, doesn't she? And the scene in which Clark says goodbye is really lovely. I admit, though, that I kept wondering if Bounce dryer sheets paid to have their box featured on the show. :) Hooray for Martha and Jonathan! Anyone else notice that Jonathan has his arm around Martha almost the entire time? It's so sweet to watch the two of them together. It was great to see J arguing with Clark and being so supportive -- even if Clark is ready to fly away from the people he loves most. :( An aside to Cat, who admits that she's had more men leave her than Lois might think. I do not like this woman. There, I've said it! While it's true that everyone at the DP is dressing cooler, it is so utterly unprofessional to see her prancing around in bikini outfits. She dresses just as outrageously on other occasions too. Her makeup, hairstyle and behavior are enough to let us know what kind of woman she is without her state of dress (or undress). If she was supposed to serve as a foil to Lois, there were many better ones -- Lucy could have remained on the show, for example, and Clark adapts the role in later seasons. YMMV, of course, but I'm glad she didn't last beyond S1. Next morning, and another strong woman scene with the doctor or professor or whatever she was. It was great to see the two women investigating the aquifer (did I spell it right? ) and discovering the truth. It did make me wonder if this incident, along with others, might have prompted Lex to woo Lois and thereby get her off the opposing team. Without her, Lex's plan would have succeeded. Not sure if the knock-knock scene takes place before or after Lois' meeting with the doctor, but I found it to be very telling. First of all, as I said earlier, the quirked grin on Lex's face as he turns around was, to me, the first time Lex looked like someone Lois could find attractive. It was intriguing to see him rejoice more at Superman's defeat than his successful manipulation of an entire city. It also fit well with his personality to accept with equinamity that he could no longer use the heating device. I was a bit confused by his plan to divert all the excess heat to the bay; was he planning on boiling off Hobbs' Bay entirely? (Another aside here: I remember some disagreement among authors as to whether it's Hobb's Bay, Hobbs' Bay, or even Hob's Bay. The map clearly shows HOBBS BAY. There was no apostrophe visible, but it might not be clear at such a small font, so to speak.) Lois, the brilliant woman, grabs the mike from the stupid channel 6 guy to alert Superman. One could question *why* Clark chose to listen to a lousy channel like that one , but perhaps the alert was picked up by other, more respected news stations. Could anyone explain why an Arab oil sheik would be interested in a nuclear plant? :) The confrontation with Lex, Lois and Clark confused me a bit. Was Lex fully in control of the leak in the power plant or not? Lois makes it sound like it's accidental; Clark adds very pointedly "unless there's some other reason for it," which Lex quickly denies. But what *would* have happened if the nuclear plant had gone fully online? Would there have been any danger to the public, or was Clark only too willing to destroy the plant at Lex's expense? After all, once Lex denied that it was deliberate, that "obviously" meant it was accidental and therefore dangerous. In addition, when Clark breached the nuclear plant to stop the rods or whatever, wasn't he endangering everyone in the next room by allowing the radiation to leak out? The guys in the enviornmental suits had clearly been in the same room with the crowd. It did seem as if Clark simply charged into the next room and left the door wide open, but maybe I got it wrong. The final scene with Lex was also interesting. Yes, he's been defeated; but he's wise enough to "look for the silver lining." Another day, another nefarious plot. :) Back to the DP, and all is really right with the world with Clark's return! :) The final scene with Clark bending over her and her little giggle has appeared on several videos, but it was a delight to see the real thing. It really was an adorable ending to a very satisfying ep. And they both looked so cute. :) :) Questions for discussion: 1. In-jokes are all well and good; but if they detract from a scene, should they be used? Mayor Berkowitz says to Lois, "I've got you, babe." (I believe the actor is also a singer and this was part of a famous song. Or something. I have a vague memory of someone explaining this to me once upon a time.) While that may be funny, it doesn't fit the scene. Lois plays a delightful contrast to the *really* stupid channel 6 guy (the same one who later suggests that Superman's force field was the reason the local team lost the pennant) by asking an intelligent, pertinent question. The mayor's reply? "I've got you, babe." I found it very jarring. OTOH, if Lex had hummed the theme song while he flew his Superman doll through the air, that *would* have been a funny in-joke that didn't take anything away from the scene itself. :) Opinions? 2. In the "booking" scene, were the failed attempts at frisking and fingerprinting a sight gag? Accidental on Clark's part? Deliberate? I would go with the latter, as Clark really doesn't want Superman's fingerprints on file (after all, he knows he often breaks the law with Lois in the course of his reporting duties as Clark), and they might find his glasses and tie under the cape. (There prolly isn't another man in Metropolis with Clark's taste in ties, either, so it would *really* be a dead giveaway. ) 3. Did Clark's letter to Perry include the real reason why he was leaving Metropolis? His anxious manner when Perry returns it seems to suggest it. *Did* Perry open the letter? Does his conversation with Clark earlier, when Superman calls from the police station, suggest that he knows that CK=S? (Yes, that was before the resignation, I know. It's a separate question.) 4. Is Clark giving Lois clues on purpose? Why isn't he cautious enough to dress cooler like everyone else, instead of waltzing around in suit and tie without even breaking a sweat? (I loved when he started sweating, BTW.) The famous cup-her-cheek-with-his-palm is used twice in this ep: Once as Superman announces his intention to leave Metropolis, and again when Clark kisses her good-bye. In that same scene at the DP, Clark tells Lois, "Maybe you don't know Superman as well as you think you do." Yet when he returns in the final scene, he admits, "I guess you knew me better than I thought." Slip of the tongue, or deliberate? 5. On a lighter note: This ep shows that Clark does not believe that Superman should be above the law. How does this conform with his complicity in allowing the children to play with the water hydrant, which is definitely illegal? :) I look forward to your thoughts. Hazel ____ "To me, the eps are merely fanfics that are *exactly* in canon." ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:48:46 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kate Crane Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hazel, Great review and though I've seen this episode too many times to count, I still gained insight from your analysis. "Don't spit in the wind, don't tug on Superman's cape, and don't mess with Jim" are lines from the Jim Croce song, and the mayor was Sonny Bono, of Sonny and Cher. The line "I got you Babe" is the title of their signature song. I always found that scene amusing, but now that Sonny is dead, very poignant. "The confrontation with Lex, Lois and Clark confused me a bit." Me too, as well as all the other plot holes you pointed out....but I agree, it is a delightful episode. I'll leave it to the other experts on this list to address your thought provoking questions. Kate ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 03:51:15 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Any other writing forums? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Bethy, I'm afraid I don't know of another forum like the msg boards, but if you start one, I'll join! This would be wonderful to help motivate me to complete my non LnC writing. Irene ===== www.originalequestrianmusic.bigstep.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:12:03 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Any other writing forums? In-Reply-To: <20010329115115.25231.qmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed There is at least one newgroup called alt.creative.writing out there. I have been told that there is a newsgroup where authors like A.C. Crispin occasionally appear and there is brutally honest feedback (as in the kind that makes you wince, although no one gets personal), but I have no idea if a.c.w. is that newsgroup. Still, Bethy, it might be worth checking out. Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:19:41 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that abbreviations, in general, are the province of the younger set in IMing. I have noticed that my teenaged kids use them constantly, but most of the adults that I chat with don't use them at all. Now, as far as correcting typos and using correct punctuation are concerned, that is another question. Many people just leave them unless the typos cause misunderstanding of the message. IRC seems to be an exception to that, though. I see a lot of "enougj -j +h " on IRC. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:59:02 -0500 Reply-To: "Heidi A. Bingham" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Heidi A. Bingham" Organization: Militant Breastfeeding Cult Subject: Re: First Night VI: Revelation, 2/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carol ~ I can't find part one. Can you send it again so I can read it before I read pts 2, 3, 4.. Thanks ~ Heidi http://www.Moms4Milk.org/ Mother's Milk, that is! The latest in breastfeeding research in one easily accessible place --Get the facts, and pass them on! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol L Moncado" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:54 AM Subject: First Night VI: Revelation, 2/? > Hey all. I have been posting this on the boards and forgot to post it > here! I am going to catch you up to them at least! (If anyone is still > reading this here anyway!) FDK is always appreciated! > > CM > > ***** > > By the time Lois and Clark made it downstairs, Jonathan and Martha were > already there, sitting at the table drinking coffee. > > The elder Kents exchanged a look as their son and his wife entered the > kitchen. The two were holding hands and looking very happy. Lois still > had tear-stained cheeks, but her smile was real. Martha gave her a > questioning look and Lois gave a barely perceptible nod of her head. > Martha squeezed Jonathan's hand. > > Jonathan cleared his throat. "So, what's new with you two this morning?" > > Martha laughed. "Jonathan, I love you, but you are about as subtle as a > whack upside the head!" > > Lois grinned, Clark blushed and Jonathan replied, "Well, I don't see you > asking." > > "Fine. Are we going to be grandparents or not?" Martha demanded. > > Lois and Clark shared a look. Clark, reading what her eyes were saying, > nodded. > > Martha and Jonathan were both out of their chairs in an instant. Martha > held Lois close while Jonathan rested his hand on Clark's back. > > Jonathan was fighting to hold back tears. "Congratulations, son. I know > that this is what you've always wanted." > > Clark gave his father a big hug, struggling with his own emotions. "Dad, > I'm going to be a dad." > > "I know." > > Next Clark was in his mother's arms. She made no attempt to stop the > tears coming down her face. "I am so proud of you; so proud of the man > that you have become. And so happy for you and your wife and your baby." > He stood there listening to his mother and letting her do what she needed > to do - hold her son and marvel at the miracles of life. > > Jonathan had given Lois a hug and a gruff, "Congratulations," and the two > of them stood, watching the mother and son share a special moment. > > Tears welled up in Lois' eyes as she realized that this could be her in > twenty-five years. She could be the one holding her child, finding out > that she was going to be a grandmother, and she realized that as much as > she loved her work and her independence, there was nothing compared to > having a family. A family was what would really make her life complete. > She could be happy with her job and her husband, but, seeing the joy of > her mother-in-law and how happy she was, Lois reached an epiphany. > Without a family, what was the purpose of the job and the rest of her > success? It would ultimately be empty and hollow without people to share > it with. Realizing this, Lois could no longer hold back the tears of joy. > > > But then another thought hit her. How could she ever measure up to this > amazing woman who stood in front of her? Her mother was an alcoholic and > her dad hadn't been a shining example of parenthood. How was she going to > do this? She loved Clark, and she knew she would love this baby too, but > she knew her options were becoming more and more limited. The tears of > joy changed to tears of fear. She wasn't so sure about this after all. > > Clark heard the change in her breathing. He released his mom and took his > wife into his arms. He whispered, "It'll be okay, honey. We'll figure it > out." > > Lois stepped back and put on a brave face. "Of course, it'll be okay. > What's not to be okay? Everything will be fine. We'll be great parents. > You'll be a great dad and I'll be a... " Lois swallowed, "great mom. > It'll be fine." > > Clark knew she wasn't as okay with all of this as she claimed to be, but > he also realized that she wasn't ready to talk about it. There would be > time for that later, when Lois wanted to. > > ***** > > Clark flew Lois home as soon as it grew dark. His parents held them a > little longer and a little closer before they left. Lois had her arms > wrapped around Clark's waist and her head on his chest. As they flew, she > kissed his chest and ran her hands up and down his back. She didn't mind > loosening her grip anymore; she knew Clark wouldn't let her fall. > > Somewhere over Ohio, Clark stopped in midair. He stood there and looked > down at his wife as she placed one more soft kiss on his chest. "You > know, if you keep doing that, we may not make it home." > > Lois looked up at him with big innocent eyes. "Stop doing what? This?" > She kissed his chest again. > > "Yes, that. You, my dear, are distracting me from flying. If you're not > careful, we'll end up in Japan instead of our room at home." > > "Hmm, wouldn't want to end up in Japan. The Caribbean maybe, but not > Japan." > > "Would you rather go to the Caribbean, honey?" Clark asked seriously. > > She kissed his collar bone. "Not tonight. Maybe next weekend. Right now I > just want to go home." She kissed his Adam's apple. > > Clark groaned. "We'll be there in a minute." And he flew towards > Metropolis as fast as he dared. > > ***** > > Minutes later, Clark landed them inside *their* apartment. He stepped > back from her long enough to spin out of the Superman suit and into his > black silk boxers and his black shirt. > > Lois let out a low, appreciative whistle. "If you're going to look like > that, then I get to go change into something sexy." > > Clark took her into his arms and leaned down to nibble on her neck. "You > look incredibly sexy just the way you are." > > Lois laughed and pushed him away. "Still. You wait here. I'll be right > back." > > "Lois..." > > "No arguing." Lois walked towards her room, and just before she > disappeared she turned and winked at him. "Be right back, Flyboy," she > said in a soft, sultry voice. > > Clark flopped onto the couch with a groan. "HURRY!" > > Lois called from the other room. "And no x-ray vision either!" > > "I wouldn't dream of it!" > > "Yes, you would." > > "You're right, I would, but I'll be good. I promise." > > "As long as you're not good for too long." > > "I thought I was the one who was supposed to be good and you were the one > who wasn't." > > "In a few minutes, you'll wish I was being a good girl!" > > Clark just groaned again. "Never!" > > "Clark." > > Clark turned to see his wife, a vision of loveliness in a burgundy outfit > of some sort that he couldn't describe. He stood and was by her side in > an instant. "Wow. You look amazing. Do you keep stuff like this just > lying around in case a cute guy comes by?" His voice was soft. > > "I got it last week. You said you'd like to see me in burgundy." Her > voice matched his. "Do you like it?" > > Clark didn't answer. He scooped Lois up into his arms and kissed her, his > lips never leaving hers as he floated them into the bedroom. Laying her > on the bed, he lowered himself gently on top of her, still expressing in > his kiss all the love and passion that was in his heart. No more words > were necessary as Lois opened up her soul completely and became lost in > the depth of his love for her. > > ***** > > "Clark, you never answered my question," Lois murmured sleepily against > her husband's chest. > > "What question was that?" > > "Did you like my outfit?" > > Clark laughed and looked at the burgundy cloth, now hanging from a potted > plant across the room. "What do you think?" > > "I think that there is nothing I like better than being in your arms. And > I think that I am glad you don't have to go home tonight." > > "I am home, Lois." He kissed the top of her head. "I love you, my little > tornado." > > "I love you, my little snuggle bunny." > > And they fell asleep wrapped in each other's arms. > > ***** > > "Hello?" A sleepy Clark answered the ringing phone. > > "Who is this?" the voice demanded. > > "Clark Kent. Who's this?" Clark still wasn't awake enough to realize he > wasn't answering his own phone. > > "Who is it, honey?" came his wife's own sleepy voice. > > "Let me talk to Lois," the voice demanded again. > > "It's for you, sweetie." Clark handed Lois the phone and laid his head > back on his pillow. > > Lois propped herself up on one arm. "Hello?" > > "LOIS!" > > "MOM! Where are you? I thought you were in Europe for another two weeks." > > "Who was that, Lois?" Her mom ignored the question. > > A sleepy "Who is it?" came from the other side of the bed as Clark rolled > over and put an arm around his wife. > > Lois covered the mouthpiece and hissed, "My mom." > > Clark was still having difficulty processing. "Tell her I said 'hi'." > > "Clark!" She turned her attention back to the phone. "Why are you > calling, mom?" > > "I'm in Metropolis and I thought that I could see you. IF you're not too > busy for me, with this guy and all." > > Lois stared at the ceiling. "Mom, I'm never too busy for you. How about > dinner tonight? We need to talk." > > "You're right. We do. Tonight is fine. I want to have a long talk with > you. You know how I feel about you getting involved with men. Dinner. At > Angelina's." > > "Why don't you come over here for dinner, Mom?" > > "Have you learned how to cook yet?" > > "No." > > "Then meet me at eight." > > "Okay. I'll make reservations at Antonio's. We'll see you at eight. Bye, > Mom." > > "What 'we'? Lois, did you say Antonio's? No one can get reservations at > Antonio's. What do you mean by 'we'?" But Lois didn't hear as she hung up > the phone. > > "What'd your mom want, honey?" Clark was more awake, but somehow had > missed the whole conversation - kind of odd for a guy with super hearing. > > "She wanted to know who you were." > > Clark sat up next to her. "I probably shouldn't have answered the phone, > huh?" > > Lois sighed. "It's okay. We had to tell her sooner or later. We're > meeting her for dinner at Antonio's tonight. Unless you don't want to > come." The apprehensive tone in her voice made it obvious what she > wanted. > > "I'll be there for you, you know that." > > "I know." > > "How are you and our baby doing this morning?" Clark rubbed his hand on > Lois' stomach. > > "We're fine. I need to call my doctor this morning and make an > appointment." > > "That's something that we need to talk about. What if this baby isn't... > normal? What if there is something different about the baby? Something > wrong?" > > "We'll worry about that if and when it happens. I think that this is > going to be a good pregnancy and a normal child. Well, as normal as any > child with such a 'super' dad could be." > > Clark groaned. "Lois, you really don't need to make so many 'super' > comments you know." > > "But I like to." Lois looked at the clock. "We better get going. It's > bound to be a big day. Remember last Monday? No one needed Superman for > the whole time we were on the island, and as soon as we showed up at > work, boom! Every criminal in Metropolis came out of the woodwork. I just > hope it isn't like that today. I'd like you around while everyone gets > used to us being married." > > Clark gave her a soft kiss. "In that case, we better get ready or we're > gonna be late." > > "I know. Come on." Lois pushed back the covers and realized that she had > never gotten dressed after their little rendezvous the night before. She > quickly covered herself back up. > > Clark laughed. "It's okay, honey. I understand. It's going to take some > getting used to. I'm gonna go hop in the shower." He kissed her again and > walked to the bathroom, taking the comforter with him. > > Lois leaned back against the headboard, watching her husband's strong > back disappeared into the bathroom. She laughed when the comforter came > flying back out and the shower turned on. "Watch out, mister, or I might > come in after you." > > "You wouldn't! We don't have that kind of time." > > Lois sighed. "You're right. Now hurry, I need a shower, too." > > Clark stood in front of her, hair wet and wrapped in a towel, water still > running. "It's all yours, my dear." > > "How do you do that?" > > Clark was next to her in a second, back against the headboard, long legs > stretched out in front of him, towel firmly in place. "Super speed." He > kissed her. > > Lois groaned. "Okay, my turn. Too bad we're not going to have time for > breakfast. I'd love some of those pancakes of yours." She took the sheet > and went into the bathroom. > > Clark caught the sheet with a laugh and gently blew at the door so it > wouldn't slam behind her. > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:28:15 +0100 Reply-To: LabRat Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Organization: LabRat Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hazel wrote: > [First of all, I've been away for nearly two weeks, so let me congratulate > the Kerth winners, Kathy on her immiment retirement and salute a job > superbly done, and Labrat on her promotion. I'll be disappearing again > shortly as I move, and I don't have time to check out Zoom's mbs as yet, > but I thought I would squeeze this in. :)] [Thanks, Hazel :)] > [Another thoughtful review, which I thoroughly enjoyed reading.] > > The scene in Perry's office was hysterical from start to finish. Clark as > Superman hearing stories he's doubtless heard countless times before, yet > having to pretend that they're new and fascinating; Cat "breathing" > Superman; Lois desperate not to argue in front of Superman; and the two > satellites following Clark out of the room, with Perry grinning knowingly. > Delicious! [Yup, one of my all time favourites.] > > 1. In-jokes are all well and good; but if they detract from a scene, should > they be used? Mayor Berkowitz says to Lois, "I've got you, babe." (I > believe the actor is also a singer and this was part of a famous song. Or > something. I have a vague memory of someone explaining this to me once upon > a time.) [Kate's already explained the connection. It raised a small smile with me when I first saw it and I never thought much beyond it, but I agree it doesn't really fit and was obviously grafted on just for the laugh. Doesn't really jar with me though, despite that. In the main though I prefer my in jokes to be inserted into the text naturally rather than forced in there.] > > 3. Did Clark's letter to Perry include the real reason why he was leaving > Metropolis? His anxious manner when Perry returns it seems to suggest it. > *Did* Perry open the letter? Does his conversation with Clark earlier, when > Superman calls from the police station, suggest that he knows that CK=S? > (Yes, that was before the resignation, I know. It's a separate question.) [Now those ones a hundred FoLCs have asked since the episode aired. Who knows? I think there have been a couple of fanfic that tried to answer these questions, but they've always been open to interpretation. ] > > 5. On a lighter note: This ep shows that Clark does not believe that > Superman should be above the law. How does this conform with his complicity > in allowing the children to play with the water hydrant, which is > definitely illegal? :) > [Hoo boy, *yes*! And dangerous too! That scene is probably the only one in the entire show that has me yelling abuse at the screen. With my firefighter husband run ragged each summer and water levels in the district his station covers sometimes falling dangerously low through this activity, I am *so* disappointed in Clark helping the miscreants instead of giving them a good solid Superman lecture every single time I have to watch it. One summer in particular water levels dropped so low after Stuart and his colleagues had toured around half the day shutting off the same group of hydrants for the fourth time that they couldn't even boil up a kettle at the station let alone put out any fire that might have come along. Not to mention the abuse and threats of violence they have to endure from parents complaining about them spoiling their kids fun. :P~~~~~~ So, yes, Clark turning on that hydrant produces a predictable, guaranteed Arrrrgggggggghhhhhh! scream from me every time. I finally had to fast fwd just to reduce my blood pressure. ;) LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:53:48 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carol, I can tell you that people do use abbreviations like "c u" (I prefer cya) but it depends a lot on how good a typist they are. If you're talking Lois & Clark, they'll probably both be fast enough to spell out small words and literate enough to want to :) My husband the one-fingered-typist, otoh, uses all the abbreviations he can dream up Longer phrases are more commonly abbreviated (otoh=on the other hand, imho=in my humble opinion) It's really something of a characterization choice. -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam http://personal.rdu.bellsouth.net/~jernigan/ The difference between journalists and other people is that other people spend their lives running from violence, tragedy, and horror and we spend ours trying to get in on it. --P.J. O'Rourke ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:54:26 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was under the impression that abreviations of the 'C U' type are mostly used in text messaging on mobile phones, since there is a limit to the number of characters used in an individual text message. And there, it's mostly kids who use text messaging, so mostly kids who use the abbreviations. If a character is writing an email or IM in a hurry, there may be a case for abbreviations - I'm thinking here of Jimmy and Perry's frantic IMs to Lois in Part 1 of The Fugitive: >>>R u sure it's him?<<< >>>Stay calm n whatver yo do,, don't let kent know u kno<<< Otherwise, I have to admit that such abbreviations drive me *crazy*! I hate reading a post on the MBs and finding it full of Ur and R U going 2 -type notation. I'm far less likely to respond to a poster who writes like that than to anyone who takes the trouble to put their point across in normal, reasonably correct English. Yes, there are some IRC abbreviations, at least as far as #lanekent and other channels are concerned: most people will write 'nite' instead of 'night' when someone leaves, 'ppl' and 'prolly' are common, although again they're abbreviations I dislike and won't use. The most common one of all, the etymology of which no-one seems to know, is 're' when someone comes back into the channel having been away: this is said by both returner and everyone else. Wendy -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:04:24 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Vicki Krell Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Carol. You've mentioned one of my pet peeves as well. I instant message often for both work and recreational purposes, and I HATE seeing "c u" or "u r." I always type out the full word, but that's just me. I notice this tendency a lot in younger people, and when I try to communicate with my 13 year old niece, it drives me nuts since she either abbreviates everything or else spells it ...uh...creatively. :) I've also had many people tell me that I type too fast so perhaps I can type out the full word in the time it takes some people to write an abbreviation. I vote for the full word. :) Vicki ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:46:09 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions In-Reply-To: <067301c0b860$29818860$916105a0@hrm.keele.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Wendy wrote: > 'ppl' and 'prolly' are common, although again >they're abbreviations I dislike and won't use. I plead guilty. :) "Prolly" and "frex" (for example) are two abbreviations that I have picked up and can't seem to discard. OTOH (and there's another one ), "c u" and "ur" seem repulsive to me, and like Wendy, I have difficulty accepting the author of such terms as worthy of discourse. :) Hazel _______ "Lots of little Bigwigs, Hazel! Think of that, and tremble!" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:11:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JaT Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.0.20010329174404.00ab8100@actcom.co.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I usually spell eveything out and ask if I don't understand the abbreviations. Case in point. What is ppl and prolly? James ===== World's Wisdom (a bumper sticker): He who dies with the most toys wins. God's Wisdom (Luke 12:15b): Be careful and guard against all kinds of greed. Life is not measured by how much one owns. NCV WIP - 7 Days of Superman - Author's Cut http://www.geocities.com/mr_d8a/7dos.htm WIP for Elisabeth: Story of a Lifetime-TOC http://www.zoomway.com/boards/ubbhtml/Forum5/HTML/003563.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:22:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > he most common one of all, > the etymology of which no-one seems to know, is 're' when someone comes back > into the channel having been away: this is said by both returner and > everyone else. Oh, that one's easy ;) It's short for re-hello. As in, I've said hello before, but you left and now you're back so I'm saying hello again -- it's the same principle as "join" and "rejoin". But we just shorten it to 're'. -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam http://personal.rdu.bellsouth.net/~jernigan/ The difference between journalists and other people is that other people spend their lives running from violence, tragedy, and horror and we spend ours trying to get in on it. --P.J. O'Rourke ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:28:50 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What is ppl and prolly? ppl is short for 'people' and prolly is a (only very slightly) shortened version of probably. A lot of the abbreviations make more sense if you try to say them out loud and see what they sound like. Cya! -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam http://personal.rdu.bellsouth.net/~jernigan/ The difference between journalists and other people is that other people spend their lives running from violence, tragedy, and horror and we spend ours trying to get in on it. --P.J. O'Rourke ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:32:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Wendy Richards To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:54 AM Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions >The most common one of all, > the etymology of which no-one seems to know, is 're' when someone comes back > into the channel having been away: this is said by both returner and > everyone else. I can explain that one, that is if the person who explained it to me was correct. I believe it originated based on some people saying 're-hi' instead of 'high again' (somewhat like 'repeat hi'). I don't really understand who's mind started this tradition, mind you, but that's how it was explained to me. Rachel ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:43:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Natascha Kortum Subject: Re: First Night VI: Revelation, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi Carol, I just caught up reading parts 2-5 and I am loving it! :) But now ehre is part 5?? This series of stories certainly keeps the readers on their toes. Things happen so quickly and in such a humourous way, it is delightful. ;) Keep up the good work! And I promise to be better about giving feedback. :) Natascha (who really would not have minded IF Superman had dropped Sam Lane... I didn't say that out loud, did I?) PS. I also loved the way they told Lucy about their marriage and her becoming an aunt! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:01:52 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam wrote: >A lot of the abbreviations make more sense if you > try to say them out loud and see what they sound like. ...except that, on this side of the Atlantic, 'prolly' sounds nothing like 'probably'! Here, you're far more likely to hear the bs than the ls. Wendy -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:24:39 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: The Case of the Disappearing Clark, 1/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I'm not sure if I like the title and I'm not sure where it is going, but I'm reading John Locke again this week. YUCK! This hasn't been BRd - I just wrote in the last couple of minutes. (Missy - if you could sometime when you have a chance, I'd appreciate it.) All FDK welcome! CM ***** Lois sat down, completely exhausted. It had been a very long day. One of the longest days she could remember having in a long time. She put her feet up on her desk and let her head flop back over the top of the chair. All she wanted to do was go home, take a long hot bath and sink into her bed, covers pulled up to her chin and go to sleep. But she couldn't. Part of the problem was that it was seven in the morning. Part of the problem was that she had a story to write. The biggest part of the problem was that her partner had disappeared. Again. Clark Kent could be the most exasperating human being at the Planet - or on the planet, for that matter. She thought he cared for her. He had even told her he loved her at one point. He later retracted, but she didn't buy it. Somehow, she knew. He was completely in love with her. Head over heels in love with her. And it scared her. It scared the... well, it really scared her. To think that someone had fallen for her was a very scary thought. She didn't understand what he saw in her. Anyone who thought they knew her would think that she had it all under control. That she had the self-esteem of a T. V. star or something. That she had everything all together, no problems, not ever. Those few who really knew her knew better. Clark was one of those people. He knew everything about her. All of her weaknesses. Her dreams. Her fears. Everything. She didn't know how he had gotten so close to her. It certainly hadn't been her intention. She kept up her defenses around everyone. They never cracked. Well, rarely never. Only around Clark. And it irritated her to no end. Clark had a way about him. He could get around anyone's defenses. Grudgingly, Lois admitted that was part of what made him such a great reporter. People trusted him. Lois trusted him. That was the most amazing part of all. But he had this annoying habit of running off. Just when things would be going really well, he'd remember that he had a movie to return or a library book overdue. Funny. She'd never seen him at the library. Lois had never thought about it before, but she hadn't. "LOIS! CLARK!" The voice of the ever-present editor-in-chief interrupted her reverie. "What?" Lois didn't move, risking the wrath of Perry White. "MY OFFICE! NOW!" Lois moved her feet, one at a time to the floor. She slowly pushed herself up from the desk and started towards Perry's office. She was going to kill him. He hadn't even given her an excuse this time. He had just left. She turned around to say something to him as they were walking out of the warehouse and he was gone. He had never done that before. He usually made some lame excuse and looked at her with those big brown eyes - how could she have ever thought they looked like mud? - silently pleading with her to understand. And she always said that it was okay. She understood. But this time she didn't understand. How could he just desert her like this? He knew her fear of desertion and he did it anyway. She was going to kill him. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 11:44:44 -0600 Reply-To: truitt22@flash.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: timothy truitt Organization: tnt technical services Subject: Episode reviews MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hazel, Just a quick note to let you know that I've been enjoying your episode reviews. I haven't commented here, but I've been reading. merry ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:56:27 -0500 Reply-To: "Heidi A. Bingham" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Heidi A. Bingham" Organization: Militant Breastfeeding Cult Subject: Re: First Night VI: Revelation, 3/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > Clark, you could have told me you were Superman and I wouldn't have > been more surprised." ROTFL. I'm enjoying this a lot. (I remembered part 1 as soon as I saw it. Tnx for forwarding) This line was great!!! ~ Heidi <--on to part 4 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:09:54 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Any other writing forums? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually...I have tried to start non-LnC writing groups in the past but no one seemed to want to join. :( I don't know if it's because of the lack of time or lack of authors! If you do decide to start a writing group of your own though... i will be there with bells on! I'm in the midst of writing a sequel to No Alibi (definately non-lnc) and I tend to work on one story at a time. I have a lot of LnC ideas in mind but i have to get this one done first. :) Alexis ;-.) "But he's mine, he's..." (Lois) {LnC, Neverending Battle} ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:52:06 -0700 Reply-To: erink@ida.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? In-Reply-To: <200103280915.LAA12377@kuma.upv.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone :) Sorry it's taken me so long to reply to all of your wonderful responses to my question about first vs. third person. I've been frantically trying to catch up with my RL stuff that got ignored during last minute Kerth preparations, but because I've been catching up with RL, my email correspondance has backed up to kingdom come! Yikes, it's a never ending battle. Anyway, I wanted to let you know how much I learned from what you all had to say! :) Thanks for the emails, both public and private, though I see that many of the ones I got privately were unintentional. I have NO idea why I've joined the "elite" club of the handful of ppl who, as Becky puts it: >>one of the "it only goes back to her when you click reply" culprits. For me, anyway.<< Nope, not just you, Becky. Let's hope Labby, Yvonne and me (anyone I'm missing here? ) who end up with that trouble. :( Sorry this is kinda long, but I wanted to reply to some of the great things you all had to say. To start off with, I especially love this that LabRat wrote: >Besides, I wouldn't let that bother you at all. Write the story the way it >wants to be told or the way it suits you to write it. That's the important >thing. Powerful thoughts, little rodent. :) I've never though about it, but it *is* amazing how you discover that there's a certain way a story *wants* to be told, and it rubs you the wrong way when you try to force yourself to write it differently, or force the story along a certain path, almost seemingly against the characters's wills. I love it that stories, when they're being written, seem to have a mind of their own, and the characters often play out their little scenes on my computer screen as I'm typing. I often just sit back to "watch" them act out their scenes, and I just end up typing what I see. :) I'm sure I'm not the only person who writes that way. And thanks, Tank, for the wonderful advice! As for this: >What it boils down to is: Is someONE telling us this story? Or are we (the >readers) watching this story unfold as it goes along? Good point, and some great things to think about. I hadn't thought of it that way. Ann wrote: >>I think it might be because as a reader, if a work of fiction is written in >>first person, my view of the action is limited to the point of view of the >>one character. I don't get as complete a picture in first person as I do >if >>something is written in third person. to which Becky replied: >Curiously enough, that is exactly what I *like* about reading first person. > There is a danger, I think, as Becky says, of information overload with >third person writing; I prefer stories that stick to a limited number of >points of view. I agree with this wholeheartedly. Thanks, Becky, for clarifying what it is I like about first person. I tend to get overwhelmed when reading a story with so many POVs because I find myself lost, and thinking, "Okay, now what was it that I was supposed to remember about this character?" Maybe I'm just a little slow , but I do find myself struggling to keep up with what's happened to all the characters in a complex book. I'm sure that's why I don't write them. Pam's similar reponse: >I think it's a style question, Erin ... with first person you are >limiting yourself somewhat (you cannot have *any* scenes in which your >narrator is not present) but it is a very intimate way to write, because >"first person limited" is the way we all live our lives I think that's very true. Maybe that's why this story was just screaming at me to be written in first person, to actually make it more intimate, to make the reader feel like you were living the life--and thus more emotionally involved with--the main character. I had a friend read the first couple of scenes I'd written, and she told me she loved the first person because it felt like she was reading from a personal journal or something. I think "intimate" *is* a very good way to describe first person. >One of my >favorite authors writes what she calls "tight third person" which is >third person, but only from one character's head (including flawed >perceptions of the world), so it's similar -- no POV switches to find >out what the other person is thinking. This can make it tricky to >figure out what the bad guys were doing when ... but maybe that won't be >a problem in your story :) Well, my story's a romance, so no trickiness or mystery here. But I can see that a "tight third person" would be much the same as writing first person, since all you see is the limited POV of the main character. And as you said, Pam, that's exactly the way we see our own lives, though I can see it'd be easier to live my life if I had several POVs to work with. >One reason I think people may not like first person is it really >requires a sympathetic narrator. I'm not going to want to read much of >a story where "I" the narrator am doing things that I the reader find >repugnant. Oh, I HATE that! I know exactly what you mean. I've read stories exactly like that, where I end up closing the book in protest, thinking there's no way I could finish it with the way and situations that things are going. :P So yes, these first person stories definitely require a sympathetic narrator. As for your words of advice, Becky: >:) Advantages: you see the world through only one person's eyes; the mystery >(if it's a mystery) unfolds naturally. Maybe it's a blinkered view of the >world, but isn't that who we see it in real life? Again, very true. :) Maybe that's what helps to make the story more intimate? >What turns me off is when first person narrative becomes too >chatty and informal, but that is a completely different issue. :) Thanks, I'll have to remember that one. Hadn't thought about that being a disadvantage, but I can see how it would get really irritable, really fast. Kathy asked, to which Becky replied: >>I'm dying to know .. in what style did she finish the book?? Did she switch >>to someone else's POV? Or was the narrator a ghost that kept narrating? > >She switched to someone else's POV for the rest of the book. Very >disconcerting, it was! Oh, man!! You're kidding! Was it a bad decision on the author's part? Did it totally ruin the book? Or was it an interesting twist? Mols wrote: >Anyway, the moral of this email is, write whatever and however you want. >You'll always have a captivated audience. :o) Wow, thank you! /me blushes :) What a nice thing to say. I'll tip you later. >Bethy (who wants to know if we're going to be allowed to read this novel of >yours... Please?) and Amparo wrote: >And I agree with Bethy, I want to know if we could read that >story or anything you're writing :) LOL, how flattering to hear that you'd even *want* to read it! :) You'd be welcome to read it when I'm done, or better yet, when I can convince someone to publish it. Thanks for all your help with this guys, and giving me so many wonderful opinions and thoughts! :) TTYS! Erin __________________ erink@ida.net Visit my LNC/Kerth Website: www.ida.net/users/davek ***** "It's not the years that count, it's the moments...right now, as they happen." __________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:22:05 +0100 Reply-To: LabRat Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Organization: LabRat Subject: Re: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erin wrote: > > Powerful thoughts, little rodent. :) I've never though about it, but it *is* > amazing how you discover that there's a certain way a story *wants* to be > told, and it rubs you the wrong way when you try to force yourself to write it > differently, or force the story along a certain path, almost seemingly against > the characters's wills. I love it that stories, when they're being > written, seem to have a mind of their own, and the characters often play out > their little scenes on my computer screen as I'm typing. I often just sit > back to "watch" them act out their scenes, and I just end up typing what I > see. :) I'm sure I'm not the only person who writes that way. > [Me for one. I've always described writing mostly as letting the characters out of the trap and then running to catch them up before they duck down the nearest dark alley and get up to all sorts of things you never intended them to. ;) Quite often I start a conversation and suddenly find Clark or Lois taking it in an entirely new direction I hadn't planned for and didn't want to go in. Leaving me cursing as I try to get it back on course to where I wanted it to end up in the first place. Is that terribly schizo, do you think? ] LabRat (becoming worried...) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:35:39 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Amy Lauters Subject: Re: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? Comments: To: LOISCL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erin said: <> To which LabRat replied: < >> If it is, then I think you'll have to lock me up with the two of you. My first fic, _Night Terrors_ only happened because I had a persistent image of Lois tossing and turning in bed that wouldn't let go. When I finally gave in and wrote down a few paragraphs, it's like the rest tumbled out at odd moments, in between papers and grading and work. The same thing happened with its sequel, _Time Elapsed_. I was just as curious as anyone else as to where it was going (and the voices are starting to hammer on me again, too. ;) At least my thesis is finished but for revisions now.) I rarely plan to write stories; the characters just seem to jump up, bite me on the nose and growl, "Write me!!" Amy :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:44:04 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: Re: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > [Me for one. I've always described writing mostly as letting the > characters out of the trap and then running to catch them up before they > duck down the nearest dark alley and get up to all sorts of things you never > intended them to. ;) Quite often I start a conversation and suddenly find > Clark or Lois taking it in an entirely new direction I hadn't planned for > and didn't want to go in. Leaving me cursing as I try to get it back on > course to where I wanted it to end up in the first place. Is that terribly > schizo, do you think? ] > > LabRat (becoming worried...) Oh, I hope not, because then I'm schizo, too. For example, I thought I was going to write a big dramatic rescue scene where Lois ends up comforting Clark (for reasons I won't go into, lest I give away more spoilers than I already just did!), and instead, they've ended up arguing with each other. Now, I'm sure *I* didn't tell them to start an argument; they did it all on their own. So now I've got to get them to make up before I can get back to the scene I had intended to write... if they let me. Darn characters! Too independent for their own good, if you ask me. Yvonne (yvonne@yconnell.fsnet.co.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:44:43 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/29/01 3:40:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, LabRat wrote: > < Clark or Lois taking it in an entirely new direction I hadn't planned for > and didn't want to go in. Leaving me cursing as I try to get it back on > course to where I wanted it to end up in the first place. Is that terribly > schizo, do you think? >> > Well, I'm in the psych ward with you. That has been one of the more interesting phenomena I've noticed with writing. For some reason, Lois and Clark are *very* uncooperative at times. Very willful people. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:48:18 -0700 Reply-To: erink@ida.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: Re: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? In-Reply-To: <001501c0b890$feecb120$919c883e@91bb00j> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > [Me for one. I've always described writing mostly as letting the > characters out of the trap and then running to catch them up before they > duck down the nearest dark alley and get up to all sorts of things you never > intended them to. ;) Quite often I start a conversation and suddenly find > Clark or Lois taking it in an entirely new direction I hadn't planned for > and didn't want to go in. Leaving me cursing as I try to get it back on > course to where I wanted it to end up in the first place. Is that terribly > schizo, do you think? ] > > LabRat (becoming worried...) LOL Labbie! Don't you worry your furry little head one bit. I do things like that all the time! Sometimes only for the fun of seeing where that little conversation may lead. It works great when I'm stuck on something, and I need some intervention. Yvonne wrote: > >Oh, I hope not, because then I'm schizo, too. For example, I thought I was >going to write a big dramatic rescue scene where Lois ends up comforting >Clark (for reasons I won't go into, lest I give away more spoilers than I >already just did!), and instead, they've ended up arguing with each other. >Now, I'm sure *I* didn't tell them to start an argument; they did it all on >their own. So now I've got to get them to make up before I can get back to >the scene I had intended to write... if they let me. Darn characters! Too >independent for their own good, if you ask me. ROTFL!!!!!!!!!! Oh, Yvonne, that's hysterical!! Boy, I tell ya, give your characters a little rein, and they take off running. But I bet the scene turned out great! Giving a little conflict always makes a story more interesting, IMO. :) Ann wrote: >Well, I'm in the psych ward with you. That has been one of the more >interesting phenomena I've noticed with writing. For some reason, Lois and >Clark are *very* uncooperative at times. Very willful people. Amen to that! Any writers out there who CAN make them cooperate? Erin __________________ erink@ida.net Visit my LNC/Kerth Website: www.ida.net/users/davek ***** "It's not the years that count, it's the moments...right now, as they happen." __________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:27:20 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: Re: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? Comments: To: erink@ida.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:48:18 -0700 Erin Klingler writes: > > [Me for one. I've always described writing mostly as letting > the > > characters out of the trap and then running to catch them up > before they > > duck down the nearest dark alley and get up to all sorts of things > you > never > > intended them to. ;) Quite often I start a conversation and > suddenly find > > Clark or Lois taking it in an entirely new direction I hadn't > planned for > > and didn't want to go in. Leaving me cursing as I try to get it > back on > > course to where I wanted it to end up in the first place. Is that > terribly > > schizo, do you think? ] > > > > LabRat (becoming worried...) Oh, my! I'm not the only one! Thank goodness! Though I have had them end up in that alley on an occasion or two! > Yvonne wrote: > > > >Oh, I hope not, because then I'm schizo, too. For example, I > thought I was > >going to write a big dramatic rescue scene where Lois ends up > comforting > >Clark (for reasons I won't go into, lest I give away more spoilers > than I > >already just did!), and instead, they've ended up arguing with each > other. > >Now, I'm sure *I* didn't tell them to start an argument; they did > it all on > >their own. So now I've got to get them to make up before I can get > back to > >the scene I had intended to write... if they let me. Darn > characters! Too > >independent for their own good, if you ask me. > > ROTFL!!!!!!!!!! Oh, Yvonne, that's hysterical!! Boy, I tell ya, > give your > characters a little rein, and they take off running. But I bet > the scene > turned out great! Giving a little conflict always makes a story > more > interesting, IMO. :) > I agree yet again! I never meant for Lois to be mad at Clark - she did it on her own really! I promise! I had nothing to do with it! They can't blame everything on us authors - they do it all on their own! HONEST! > Ann wrote: > >Well, I'm in the psych ward with you. That has been one of the > more > >interesting phenomena I've noticed with writing. For some reason, > Lois and > >Clark are *very* uncooperative at times. Very willful people. > > Amen to that! Any writers out there who CAN make them cooperate? > Not me! Though I certainly try! It's those dang superpowers, I think. They make it impossible to control Clark and well, Lois is just out of control most of the time anyway! I just wish they would tell me ahead of time what is going to happen so that I can get Mr. Wells to help straighten things out before they ever get off course (not that HE'S cooperating with me at the moment - he STILL hasn't told me why he showed up at the beginning of First Night! If I only knew how to find him... I think I'd beat him up or have Clark on red kryptonite do it for me! Well, maybe not!) Anyway - It's nice to know that I'm not the only one! CM ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 14:30:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Labby wrote: > [Me for one. I've always described writing mostly as letting the > characters out of the trap and then running to catch them up before they > duck down the nearest dark alley and get up to all sorts of things you never > intended them to. ;) Quite often I start a conversation and suddenly find > Clark or Lois taking it in an entirely new direction I hadn't planned for > and didn't want to go in. Leaving me cursing as I try to get it back on > course to where I wanted it to end up in the first place. Is that terribly > schizo, do you think? ] -----Me for two, Miz Rat. The Circle Game started out as an entirely different story and the original plot line ended up as a catalyst in the final work. I always have great fears about starting to write, or in writing certain scenes that I think will be difficult, but what amazes me is that when I finally force myself to write whatever it is, it just flows out almost without my thinking at all. Yvonne: You're scaring me. That scene you described is very similar to one I've delayed writing (see above) so I know you haven't seen my story. Strange how writers seem to think along similar lines. I've seen several references from FOLCs lately that remind me of what I'm working on. Well L&C will take us where they want to go. Erin: That 'just sitting back and watching' and then writing what you see is very familiar. Do you suppose we do that because we all started with 'watching' Dean and Teri do a television show? Writing is a fascinating obsession. :) Jude ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:55:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Marilyn L. Puett" Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions Vicki wrote: "I've also had many people tell me that I type too fast " You can never be too rich or, as my husband the business major would say, type too fast. I've seen him nearly set a keyboard on fire like Clark does. That's the beauty of the computer keyboard and wordwrap. You can type like crazy and it keeps up with you. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:12:22 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: The Case of the Disappearing Clark, 2/? Comments: To: vashtistar7@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, since I'm posting this as I go - writing as I need a break between Locke chapters (1 down 5 to go!) Here's part 2! ***** Clark didn't have the time or energy to worry about Lois' wrath. He was in too much pain. That's right, pain. He didn't like being in pain and was grateful that it happened only rarely. However, on those occasions when someone managed to get close to him with the deadly green rock Lois had named Kryptonite, he wasn't able to be thankful that it was a rare occasion - he only cared that he was in pain NOW! And this time it didn't look like there was going to be anyone to rescue him. He had no idea where he was and he had no idea if anyone even knew he was gone. He had no idea how he was going to get out of this one. ***** "Where's Clark?" Lois sighed and sank onto the couch in Perry's office. "I have no idea. We were leaving the warehouse and when I turned around he was gone." She shrugged. "Who am I? Clark's keeper? Maybe he went home. He's got to be just as tired as I am." "Did you call?" "No. And I'm not going to. If he's not responsible enough to show up and help finish this story, then he won't get part of the byline. I don't care if he is my partner." "Lois." The warning tone in Perry's voice was obvious to anyone who happened to be listening. Anyone but Lois. "I don't care, Perry. He needs to be responsible enough to show up and finish the job. Otherwise, he's just outta luck. Period. End of discussion." "Call him, Lois." "Fine. I'll call him. But I'm not going to spend half my day looking for him. I'm going to call his apartment. If I don't get an answer - and somehow, I doubt I will - then I am going to write the story on my own and go home to a hot bath and a warm bed. Kapesh?" "Fine, Lois. But if he doesn't turn up..." "He'll turn up, Perry. He always does. He's like that little pink bunny. He keeps going and going and going and never actually goes away. He's always there, beating on that annoying little drum until you want to smack him." "Lois." "Fine. Fine. But don't say I didn't warn him." "Warn him about what?" "That I'm going to smack him." "Lois. Story. Now." "Fine." Lois walked out of the room and to her desk. She turned on her computer and spent the next hour working on the story. The more she wrote, the madder she became. Clark hadn't answered his phone and he hadn't shown up. She wasn’t about to admit that she was even the teensiest bit worried. She was too mad for that. She LANed the story to Perry and gathered her things. She hollered to Perry that she was leaving and stalked up the ramp. She left in the elevator, muttering about the irresponsibility of some reporters. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:24:12 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Lorie Y. Crisp" Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I HATE abbreviations like "C U" for see you....BLEH. Drives me nuts. Makes me think of some 13 year old teenager that dots her i's with little hearts or something. Lorie ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:47:29 +0100 Reply-To: LabRat Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Organization: LabRat Subject: Fw: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fwding for Becky :) > LabRat said: > >Quite often I start a conversation and suddenly find > >Clark or Lois taking it in an entirely new direction I hadn't planned for > >and didn't want to go in. Leaving me cursing as I try to get it back on > >course to where I wanted it to end up in the first place. Is that terribly > >schizo, do you think? ] > We need a very large padded cell to contain all of us, it seems! This happens to me, too. And to all the writers I know. And to think most of the non-writers in the world think =we= plan how a story's going to go! Ha. > It's comforting to be in such good company on this. > Becky > > rbain@qwest.net > > "I do not like to form in my mind an idea that I don't have any proof of." > - Rosa Parks, from her autobiography > Stride Toward Freedom > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:50:49 +0100 Reply-To: LabRat Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Organization: LabRat Subject: Re: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aha! So, since all my favourite authors are also struggling gamely to bring their characters to heel, I guess I shouldn't worry then. ;) Thanks guys. :) LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:00:35 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "C.C. Malo" Subject: Re: Congratulations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been out of town for a week and just got back so this is a little late but I wanted to congratulate all the Kerth winners. You've written some very wonderful stories. Carol ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:16:31 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Genn Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Any other writing forums? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't write -- and I lurk a lot -- and even though I read a great deal, I'm not sure whether this would suit your purposes or not. My other fanfic-addiction besides L&C, is fic based on Jane Austen's stories, and I've noticed some of the authors over at the Derbyshire Writers' Guild and the Republic of Pemberley also write non-Austen-based stories in a community called 'The Gate': http://www.angelfire.com/art/thegate/ As I said, I can't vouch for its usefulness to someone intent on honing their (writing) craft, but there are some great stories there! Hope this helps. Leanne ============================ Leanne Genn "Ivan, one of these days somebody is going to pull out a weapon and plug you, and you're going to die in bewilderment, crying, 'What did I say? What did I say?' " "What did I say?" asked Ivan indignantly. -- Lois McMaster Bujold, 'The Warrior's Apprentice' ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:21:07 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Fanfic question - Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm just curious as to how many episodes Ralph actually was in. I remember the Mxy Christmas episode, and the one when Clark left to be with the New Kryptonians (Which one was that, btw?) but were there others? Irene ===== www.originalequestrianmusic.bigstep.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:29:00 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Fanfic question - Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, he was in "Stop the Presses', too. Nan Irene D. wrote: > I'm just curious as to how many episodes Ralph > actually was in. I remember the Mxy Christmas > episode, and the one when Clark left to be with the > New Kryptonians (Which one was that, btw?) but were > there others? > > Irene > > ===== > www.originalequestrianmusic.bigstep.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:09:21 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: Dates question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay - I tried to find the email that talked about how Clark arrived in Metropolis in May and how that put the corn festival in GGGH in the summer. I don't have any problem with any of that and I don't know enough to protest. My question is how does that jive with the heatwave in the next episode where Lois complains that it is 95 in November? That's all. No biggie! And special thanks goes out to all of the people who answered my question about the abbreviations! CM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:38:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Heidi A. Bingham" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Heidi A. Bingham" Organization: Militant Breastfeeding Cult Subject: Re: Dates question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Okay - I tried to find the email that talked about how Clark arrived in > Metropolis in May and how that put the corn festival in GGGH in the > summer. I don't have any problem with any of that and I don't know > enough to protest. My question is how does that jive with the heatwave > in the next episode where Lois complains that it is 95 in November? Apparently we're supposed to assume that some time has passed between episodes? It would fit, as Lois seems to have become more accustomed to working with a partner and even seems to like it. Oh -- I noticed both Clark and Superman did that "hand thing" that finally clued her that they are one and the same in the finale of season 2! Amazing how "dumb" she is for so long. I got the impressions that Clark had probably told Perry the truth in the letter he never opened. What do you think? ~ Heidi ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:48:36 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 4. Is Clark giving Lois clues on purpose? Why isn't he cautious > enough to > dress cooler like everyone else, instead of waltzing around in suit > and tie > without even breaking a sweat? (I loved when he started sweating, > BTW.) The > famous cup-her-cheek-with-his-palm is used twice in this ep: Once as > Superman announces his intention to leave Metropolis, and again when > Clark > kisses her good-bye. In that same scene at the DP, Clark tells Lois, > "Maybe > you don't know Superman as well as you think you do." Yet when he > returns > in the final scene, he admits, "I guess you knew me better than I > thought." > Slip of the tongue, or deliberate? > THis is the first time I have seen the ep - so I couldn't have answered earlier, but I did think that it would have been a good opportunity for what all of the female fans would have wanted - Clark Kent in shorts and a cut off tshirt or tank top or something. Or was it too early in season 1 for them to realize that ratings probably would have gone up? It would have helped maintain the illusion that S does not =CK. I think Clark was the only one who wore a suit and tie just about the whole ep - except for the channel 6 reporter who was obviously uncomfortable and had his tie loosened. The other comment I wanted to make is that I figured that Supes didn't go straight from the room with all the people to the reactor core (or wherever it was). My impression was that there was another room or safety checkpoints or something in the middle. There's no way to know if the yellow suited guys in the room with him are the same ones in the scene before. Anyway, my 2 cents! CM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:11:40 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Bain Subject: Re: Fw: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? In-Reply-To: <003201c0b906$d1549ea0$897f1f3e@land> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed LabRat said: >Fwding for Becky :) Sigh. Which reminds me, I need to resend the post I apparently sent just to Erin, too. Thanks for helping me out, Rat! Becky rbain@qwest.net "I do not like to form in my mind an idea that I don't have any proof of." - Rosa Parks, from her autobiography Stride Toward Freedom ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:12:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Bain Subject: Re: Combo post: RE: Readers' Preference: First or Third Person? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Erin said: >As for your words of advice, Becky: > > >:) Advantages: you see the world through only one person's eyes; the mystery > >(if it's a mystery) unfolds naturally. Maybe it's a blinkered view of the > >world, but isn't that who we see it in real life? Much as I'd love to lay claim to this, I didn't say it. I agree with it, though. Becky rbain@qwest.net "I do not like to form in my mind an idea that I don't have any proof of." - Rosa Parks, from her autobiography Stride Toward Freedom ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:15:09 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Bain Subject: Teri on Quantum Leap Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I was channel-flipping last night and caught the end of Quantum Leap on the Sci-Fi channel - and it looks like Sam "leaped" into the college professor of the episode Teri Hatcher was in, so that ep should air tonight. (Assuming that a) I'm right about the upcoming ep, and b) Sci-Fi is airing them in order, but why wouldn't they?) Becky rbain@qwest.net "I do not like to form in my mind an idea that I don't have any proof of." - Rosa Parks, from her autobiography Stride Toward Freedom ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 11:13:11 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Frank Ward Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed There is a _very_ long history of using cryptic abbreviations in long-distance written communications. With computers it goes back to the days of 300 baud (that's 300 bits per second) modems. People would use some odd constructions to convey information in as few characters as possible since it took a long time to send even that few. Before that, there was Short Wave. Several types of sending licences were (and maybe still are) morse-code only, so you find a large and fairly standard set of abbreviations associated with it. I would bet that this practice originated in the days of manual morse code on telegraph lines. When you pay by the character, it pays to be as terse as possible. So, with high speed modems (even with my 56Kb maxing out at 24.4Kb it is much better than my old 0.3Kb on my old AT (at 12 Blazing Mhz - when you push the turbo button - but it still works)) I don't know why people still use them. Nostalgia - not very likely, I think. At least not in most cases. Poor typing skills - could be. Verbal playfulness - Very common among computer enthusiasts. Simple impatience - maybe. Maybe someone should write a dissertaion on the subject. It would make some Psych professor very happy. Frank rmwrfw@hotmail.com >From: JaT >Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" > >To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU >Subject: Re: Abbreviation questions >Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:11:01 -0800 > >I usually spell eveything out and ask if I don't >understand the abbreviations. > >Case in point. What is ppl and prolly? > > >James > > >===== >World's Wisdom (a bumper sticker): He who dies with the most toys wins. >God's Wisdom (Luke 12:15b): Be careful and guard against all kinds of >greed. Life is not measured by how much one owns. NCV > >WIP - 7 Days of Superman - Author's Cut >http://www.geocities.com/mr_d8a/7dos.htm >WIP for Elisabeth: Story of a Lifetime-TOC >http://www.zoomway.com/boards/ubbhtml/Forum5/HTML/003563.html > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:15:32 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rowan Fuller Subject: Questions Regarding "On The Run" Fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi FoLCs I foolishly began reading "On The Run" recently. Although very long and a popular ongoing saga at the time, it hasn't been added to or finished in 18 months. I didn't read it at the time because it wasn't finished. But I could hit myself for starting it now. Therefore I have a number of questions regarding this fantasitic story. I don't suppose it is ever likely to be finished now, however I wondered if anyone knew what happened to the author? If it would be at all possible for one of you excellent fanfic authors or round robin teams to finish it etc? Or maybe on this list. It seems such a shame. Although I now know it wasn't finished, I can't bring myself to put it down, I'm so hooked and I wasn't expecting to be with a title such as "On The Run." It wasn't what I expected at all. I'm now at about Part 33 of 64 and it is just so addictive. Up there with other great fanfic sagas such as the Home Series, Firestorm series or stand alone stories like Caped Fear and hundreds more. Its just so gripping. Please does anyone know if there were any other parts beyond 64A posted anywhere? Does anyone have any idea if the author ever did outline what was to happen next as I suspect Real Life probably got in the way or she left the fandom. Any help or recommendations will be appreciated as it is such an excellent story. Perhaps other readers came up with their own ideas after it wasn't finished. Please share. No doubt Lois & Clark will be reunited however how and when? As I've still got a lot to go, I don't know if every question raised throughout the story may well have been answered but I know its not finished and L&C are being kept a part. Thank you. Rowan :) -- -- -- LaneKent@aol.com website homepage: http://members.aol.com/lanekent . ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:33:11 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Dates question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> Several times in the series, we have to assume more time has passed than, say, a week between episodes. Like, the proposal at the end of the second season was in May, but it continued in September (and certainly they weren't sitting in the park for four months!), so sometime after "We Have A Lot To Talk About" -- maybe between WHALTTA and Ordinary People or Ordinary People and Contact, there was more time than just one week or even two weeks happening between episodes. SOMEhow, they had to spread it out. But then again, maybe I'm getting to "into" it and it really shouldn't matter. :) We do know they finally caught up in December though cuz that's when they celebrated Christmas. ;) Mols ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:27:19 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kate Crane Subject: Re: Questions Regarding "On The Run" Fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rowan, Plan9 stopped by the fanfic boards at Zoom's place awhile back and reassured us that she would finish this epic, but that Real Life was in the way at the time. I emailed her on March 1 and that email has not been opened, but I think we need to wait for her return. It is a very addictive story and I still check daily, hoping to see a posting for OTR. And no new parts posted since Oct 99. Kate ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:37:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gerry Anklewicz Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just before the mayor (Sonny Bono) says to Lois, "I got you babe" a reference to his hit song with Cher, he says as an answer to the TV reporter's question, "And the heat goes on" a reference to another one of his songs, "And the beat goes on." There are a lot of pop culture references in the show and the writers, I think, liked to play around with them. I have a question about a part I never understood. Superman says to Lois as she puts her "dinner" back into the paper bag that they'll never eat that way. I never understood what he meant other than they won't eat out of a bag? I don't get it. Can anyone explain? Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:52:51 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Diyan Subject: A new quiz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I had so much fun with the Kerth quizzes that I decided to write a quiz of my own :) I'd intended to send this out in the week after everyone finished voting while we were waiting for the results, but I was away from my computer for that week. This quiz goes out with many thanks to all the people who worked to bring us the Kerths, and specifically to Wendy and Hazel who quizzed us to help us prepare our nominations :) This is a theme quiz. You get to guess what the theme is, but I=92ll give you one hint: it=92s not a Kerth quiz ;) When you reply, please remember the spoiler space, and please do not include all the excerpts in your reply message. You may use any references at your disposal to answer this quiz. You will receive 2 points for identifying the theme from the quotes only, 1 point for identifying the theme using excerpts, 2 points for each title and author you identify from the quote, and 1 point for each you identify from the excerpt. Please indicate in your reply where you used quotes and where excerpts. Good luck! S P O I L E R S P A C E Quote 1: "I tell you, it hurt like the dickens. It was like someone took a hammer and hit me in the chest." Quote 2: "The Arctic and I have a special affinity, you could say." Quote 3: Clark's lips curled into a sleepy, and somewhat sad grin. *If only that were true, Lois. If only.* Quote 4: "'The love of your life is sitting in this room.' What were you saying about Fate, Lois?" Quote 5: "Honey, you want to go grab some coffee or something and talk about this?" He asked gently, careful not to pry, but to give her the opportunity to open up and express any thoughts and feelings that she wished. Quote 6: *What a stupid excuse, Kent. She'll never buy it. It's almost as bad as the Choco Chocolate Monster Chip ice cream excuse you used for the warehouse fire the other day.* Quote 7: "You may yet save the others. If not..." Dr. Stillwell shrugged. "...they are only criminals." Quote 8: "You look like you just lost your best friend," he said quietly. Quote 9: "Tears, Lois?" Quote 10: "I guess I'm also saying thank you. Thank you for being there for me all these times. You are a really great guy Clark." Quote 11: No, this smacked of one of Clark's ideas. Quote 12: "Oh, you can give me as many reasons as you like for why you won't forgive him, but I have no intention of arguing with you." Quote 13: "I'm scared, Clark." Lois blurted out the words as though she'd been keeping them bottled up for centuries, cutting him off. s p o i l e r s p a c e Excerpt 1: Lois wiped angrily at her eyes again. Where was he?! Why didn't he call her?= So intent was Lois on her concentration on the phone that she nearly jumped out of her skin when she heard the strong rap on her front door. At first she was startled into hesitancy, but once she peered through the peep hole in her door, she quickly undid the locks and flung the door open with great force and speed. "Clark!" was all she said as she pulled him into her apartment and flung herself into his arms. Clark wasn't sure what kind of reception to expect from Lois once he showed up, but he sure couldn't complain about being showered with quick kisses by his beautiful partner. "Oh, Clark, I was so scared," Lois said while finally disentangling herself from him. ******** Excerpt 2: Lois emerged from her bathroom, dressed in her towelling robe, to find Clark in the kitchen making coffee. The living-room carpet was now spotless, the cement drips having disappeared. He had clearly gone somewhere else to clean up - as it was now dark, she wondered if he'd risked visiting his own apartment - and was now dressed in his jeans and a cotton shirt he had collected earlier that evening from Smallville. His hair was in a less formal style than usual, and it flopped forward over his forehead. Something else was different, and Lois realised that he wasn't wearing his glasses. Noticing this made Lois recognise two things. First, Clark had clearly decided that he no longer had any need to adopt one or other of his 'disguises' around her any more, and this made her feel... privileged, somehow. But second, she realised with a feeling of awe that she was also finding it easier to reconcile in her mind the two parts of his identity. Just now, when she'd first noticed the absence of Clark's glasses, her initial thought had *not* been that he looked more like Superman; it had been that, finally, she was getting to see the *real* Clark, the person only his parents, to date, really knew. ******** Excerpt 3: She pulled up in front of Clark's apartment, and parked at the curb. She reached over to nudge him awake, but stopped suddenly. He looked so peaceful in his sleep. He was beautiful. She wished she knew what he was dreaming about. Lois stroked his cheek gently with her finger tips, tears welling up in her eyes once again, only this time from happiness. He was here, with her. Her best friend, and 'maybe more.' No matter what happened to them in the future, she knew she'd always be there for him. And she knew he'd always be there for her. Lois placed her palm on his cheek and tilted his face toward her own. Gently, so as not to wake him, she covered his lips with her own and kissed him softly. "I love you, Clark Kent," she whispered. ******** Excerpt 4: "I guess I did need some space to find what I really wanted. All along, I knew that there was something missing after Lex's death, I just never knew it was right under my nose. I have really missed sharing some good times with you, but not to worry, we still have all of our life in front us. Except you, you're like a cat, which life is this? Your third or fourth?" "Yeah, I guess I do take a lot of chances, I just don't want to see anything happen to you. By the way, what cat do you think I could be? I was thinking along the lines of a black panther. You know, a watcher, a protector, and very fierce about his mate." Lois thought for a moment. "Mate? What mate? No, I think the Pink Panther would suit you better. You are always getting into something and bungling it up." ******** Excerpt 5: She sat up and wrinkled her brow, telling herself that it was someone else. Clark's face was nothing but a figment of her overactive imagination. She leaned forward, trying to get a better look at him. "Clark?" she said a little more firmly. **Was it really him? Could it be?** As he came closer, the lamps surrounding the fountain area revealed more and more of his features, yet still they were hazy. Lois slowly rose to her feet as the man continued his hurried approach. Suddenly his face, including that ever-familiar brilliant smile became illuminated fully by the park lamps. "Clark!" Lois cried as she rushed forward, arms outstretched. She flew down the walk and flung herself into his arms. Clark swept her up in a fierce embrace. He held her tightly as her tears fell, not knowing what to think or what to say. At last he relaxed his hold on her. ******** Excerpt 6: He thought of her eyes, and all the times he'd looked deep into them, trying to get her to see the truth. He'd wished sometimes that she would see past the glasses. He wished she could see the real man behind the glasses, and behind the cape. He wished that she would recognize him for who he truly was, for what was truly in his soul. *She* was in his soul. She was a part of him. A part of him that was almost killed by his two alter-egos-- a mild-mannered reporter, and a cool-headed superhero. She didn't even really know him, really. She knew the superhero, she knew the reporter, but she didn't know the *man.* He'd seen every side of her. He'd seen her brilliance, her temper, her unfaltering courage, and her unfaltering stubbornness. He'd seen past her walls, into the woman who desperately craved love, and who had so much love to offer. She'd allowed him, in her friendship, to melt the ice around her heart, and share a part of her that Clark didn't think anyone else had truly shared. And he'd offered her a pair of glasses, and a flashy cape. *She deserves more than that.* Clark set his jaw against the lump of regret that blocked his throat. *If it costs me everything I have, she'll have the truth.* He owed her that much. ******** Excerpt 7: He made sure he made little noise when he came in the front door. He didn't want to startle her and scare her. As he approached her, he could see she had eaten 3/4 of a gallon of his chocolate ice cream - straight from the container - plain. 'Oh oh, wonder what is wrong now,' Clark worried. He stepped around in front of her and noticed she had cried herself to sleep. Her eyes were still puffy and her make-up was streaked down her cheeks. Yet, she was incredibly beautiful lying there. All thoughts left his mind and he kneeled down beside her. He brushed the hair back from her eyes. Slowly he leaned down, hesitated a brief second as his lips hovered over her cheek. Then, making up his mind, he moved over till his lips touched hers ever so slightly. The kiss was like the touch of a feather, soft and gentle. The amount of contact was so light Clark wondered if he was kissing her at all. Slowly Lois' eyes parted to look up at him. She couldn't quite see him; she blinked to get the fog of sleep from her tear- swollen eyes. Clark, noticing she was awake, pulled back slowly, locking her eyes to his. "Mmm, Clark? CLARK!!!" Lois screamed. ******** Excerpt 8: "Lois, are you sure you're okay?" Clark asked anxiously, one more time, as they arrived at her apartment building. She considered the question. "Well," she allowed, "It has been a rough day, what with nearly being blown to pieces by that satellite and all." "Lo-is. That's not what I'm talking about." "I know, Clark, I know..." she looked around, recognizing this as the very spot Superman had set her down yesterday, after she'd been pushed out her window. She seemed to be suffering from an odd sort of doubled-vision, distorting everything she'd thought she knew. "I'm tired," she observed, in vague surprise. He was instantly contrite, which really hadn't been her motive, but she welcomed the respite regardless. "We can talk more tomorrow, Clark, okay? Maybe over lunch?" Clark chewed his lip uncertainly. "How about dinner, instead. At my place?" A slow smile crossed her face. "Clark Kent, are you asking me out?" The day's stresses might have been worth it, after all, came the stray thought, if it could inspire him so. He hesitated, then grinned. "Yeah, I guess I am." She boldly looped her arms around his neck, moving that fraction of an inch closer to bring their bodies into full contact. "Good. It's a date." ******** Excerpt 9: Had he really been in love with her? Lois wasn't sure. Once, she would have said 'yes' without hesitation, but that had been before he had stood in front of the Planet and told her that he wasn't in love with her, that he had lied, that he only saw her as a friend. Since then, it had been much more difficult to interpret his feelings for her. He cared about her very much - *had* cared, she reminded herself - that was obvious. He had been there for her through all those long weeks after her abortive wedding and the horrible discovery that Lex had been a criminal; he had held her when she cried, and had listened to her for long hours when she'd needed to talk. He had protected her when she'd been in danger - and tonight he had secured her safety with his own life. Yes, she mused with a renewed spate of tears, Clark had loved her. And, what was more, no-one else had ever loved her in the way he had; and she had a sneaking suspicion that she would never again be loved so thoroughly, so unselfishly. Even Superman, who she believed cared about her, didn't love her like that. He didn't value her happiness over his own. He liked being with her - and he also would ensure her safety whenever he was required - but he didn't want her, didn't need her. ******** Excerpt 10: "I never realized how brave you are, Clark" Lois said quietly. "Me?" "Ever since you came to Metropolis you've been hit by a car and lost your memory, held captive by that psycho Trask, and helped capture those terrorists. And protected me from Sebastian Finn at the risk of your own life..." It was Clark's turn to blush. "Lois, I..." "You even stood up to that Superman clone!" ******** Excerpt 11: Clark looked guiltily at his boss, then over to Lois. "I think I'll let Lois explain it. I'm still a bit tired from the whole ordeal." Having said that, Clark slouched back into the nearest chair. Lois glared daggers at Clark but quickly recovered. She wasn't going to get flustered by his passing it back to her. After all, it was her idea. She lead Perry over to the couch. "You aren't going to believe this, Perry." And with that, Lois launched into her story. She embellished a bit here and there as she went along. Clark's escape was especially fraught with danger and daring. Lois became more animated as she went along, her hands and arms going every which way as she would emphasize this point or that. When she finally finished she was nearly out of breath, but her eyes were bright and her mouth was curved in a satisfied smile. Perry White had stared at his protege the whole time she told her story. Now he shifted his gaze to Clark, then back to Lois. Shaking his head, he finally broke the anticipatory silence. "That's the most incredible thing I've ever heard," he said, still shaking his head. Lois' smile got bigger. "I know, isn't it just?" "No, I mean it, " Perry said emphatically. "That's the most incredible thing I've ever heard." ******** Excerpt 12: "I don't need to ask how you'd have felt in her position," Jonathan commented after a moment or two, his voice dry. "I guess not... but, Dad, there's a big difference. I *love* Lois! If I thought she was dead, I'd...." He shook his head slowly, denying the very possibility. "Anyway, it's different." His father didn't reply, but the quality of his silence was such that Clark shot him a curious glance. Jonathan's expression was placid, but there was something about his father's posture which made him do a double-take. No. Lois didn't love him. Not that way. She loved him as a friend; she'd told him that several times. She wasn't *in love* with him. "She doesn't love me, Dad," he said quietly. "It's not the same." "No," his father agreed, his tone mild. "It's not," Clark insisted again. "If you say so, son. After all, you know Lois best." ******** Excerpt 13: Smiling, he soon approached his partner with a mug of coffee in one hand and a bottle of orange juice in the other. "Good morning, Lois," he offered, smiling brightly. "You get your choice this morning. Nasty caffeine or healthy vitamin C." Lois paused, then wrapped her hands around the coffee mug, imprisoning Clark's hand. He felt his heart rate increase. That electricity was always there when she touched him. She looked up at him with her eyes only, keeping her head bent toward the cup. "I'm notorious for choosing things that aren't good for me," she said, and then to his surprise, grabbed the bottle of orange juice with a grin. "But I think I'm due for a change." Clark leaned against the corner of her desk. "I hope it's a change you like, Lois," he said softly. "Me too," she whispered. She forced herself to stop staring into his eyes. "Thanks for breakfast," she added suddenly, indicating the empty muffin wrapper sitting on the opposite corner of her desk. "It was a very ... original gift." The corners of her mouth twitched once again. Clark grinned. "Well, as I said in the card, I couldn't really top the romance of the roses from yesterday, so I thought I'd go for practical. Show you how multi-faceted I am." Lois found herself smiling back at him. "Do you do windows, too?" Clark took the bait. "Oh, like a pro!" he enthused. "I keep telling you, I'm the kind of guy you want to have around." Lois laughed. "I'm beginning to see that." She met his eyes once more, lowering her voice slightly. "And thank you for the flowers ... I didn't say it properly yesterday, but they really are beautiful." "Really?" His eyes twinkled. "It's hard to tell when you're sitting right next to them." Lois blushed despite her best efforts. "You're pretty good at that flattery stuff. How long have you been practicing?" Clark shrugged. "When did we meet?" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:17:13 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" >Just before the mayor (Sonny Bono) says to Lois, "I got you babe" a >reference to his hit song with Cher, he says as an answer to the TV >reporter's question, "And the heat goes on" a reference to another one of >his songs, "And the beat goes on." There are a lot of pop culture >references in the show and the writers, I think, liked to play around with >them. > >I have a question about a part I never understood. > >Superman says to Lois as she puts her "dinner" back into the paper bag >that they'll never eat that way. I never understood what he meant other >than they won't eat out of a bag? I don't get it. Can anyone explain? > >Gerry Hi Gerry: In the scene, Lois has come over to cook dinner for Superman (and Clark). When she gets there and talks to Clark, she pulls the groceries out of the bag she has brought with her. When Clark goes to find Sman for her and comes back as Sman, Lois gets flustered by Sman's presence and begins to put the groceries back in the bag, which is quite hilarious. That's when he says his line, referring to the fact that nothing will get cooked if it is placed back in the bag. Does that help? Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:33:18 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Universal Union Book3/Part7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Title: Universal Union Book3/Part 7 Author: Jenni Debbage Rating: PG-13 Comments: For those of you who have been patiently waiting, I hope you enjoy this next chapter of Universal Union 3 and please let me know what you think of this part. I really don't mind short comments and I can als= o take some criticism as long as its not too cruel. :)) ~~~~~~~~~~ Chapter Four My Lady's Champions = The large hall with its lofty auditorium was, if possible, even more= crowded than the day before. Word of the shocking trial of Krypton's Fir= st Lady had obviously spread like wild fire and many high-bred Kryptonians w= ho had been missing from the previous day's proceedings had decided to make the trip to attend the hearing. This being a public trial, there was als= o a section set aside for the accommodation of the lower classes of the cit= y. = Since the early morning hours, a great number of ordinary citizens h= ad turned up, queuing patiently, like a huge undulating snake, in the castle= approach road. The people of Elvar liked their youthful, energetic Lady a= nd they had come in their thousands to publicly offer her their support in h= er time of trouble. From all walks of life came My Lady's champions -- ci= ty councilmen, merchants, bankers, artists and craftsmen. Representatives = of all these classes would be allowed inside the chamber, while the others would follow the trial on huge holoscreens set up in varying positions throughout the city. Elvar was a like a busy hive of bees; abuzz with anticipation and an uneasy fear. A wall of speculative sound hit Lois as she walked into the grand chamber, preceded by her two lordly jailors and flanked by her guards. T= he captain of the guard detail had spoken only a few words to his charge, ye= t somehow he had managed to convey to Lois that he had her best interests a= t heart. Captain Mica's covert, yet heartening smile sent fleetingly in he= r direction just before the heavy doors parted, gave the Lady of El the courage to enter the room with a firm step and her head held high. Lois had been somewhat puzzled, and more than a little upset, to fin= d that she had been given no access to a council for the defence. Over dinner the night before, her in-laws and Lord Remy had sought to explain the Kryptonian judicial process. Lord Jun-Li would begin the prosecution= and all those who had, or thought they had, incriminating evidence agains= t the accused would request Lord Trey for permission to present the said 'evidence' to the court. Similarly, those wishing to challenge these alleged proofs and those wishing to speak in defence of the accused would= petition Trey for the right to speak -- any person, from any walk of life= had the right to a hearing. Afterwards, the defendant would be judged, = on the evidence presented, by the High Council and by the First Lord. The Earth girl had been appalled to learn that such a supposedly sophisticated civilisation should have retained such an unfair and archai= c legal system. It appeared to her that it was easily open to abuse; a councillor might have a vested interest; goodness, in this case Jun-Li wa= s the prosecution! But, when she had voiced her very strong objections, s= he had been assured that Jun-Li was only one man and that the other members = of the council could be trusted to judge impartially. Lois was not complete= ly convinced. However, after a good deal of soothing and persuasion, she wa= s willing, for the moment, to reserve judgement. When had she grown so docile? Back on Earth, she would be shouting her protests to the rafters= or, at least, writing about them in her college newspaper. But that was the whole point, she was far from Earth, and one thing she had learned on= her adopted planet was that sometimes prudence was a virtue. Lois Lane w= as receding and Lady Lois-El, First Lady of Krypton, was emerging in her stead. = Silence descended on the auditorium like a blanket as all eyes turne= d to stare at the slender figure of the accused as she was led towards her chair. It was the same throne as yesterday but it had been moved to a small dias on the opposite side of the room. Lois sat composedly and stared straight ahead at the larger, empty throne, refusing to acknowledg= e = the surely, disapproving gaze of the crowd and unwilling to show them her= hurt and her loneliness. She was hungry for the sight of Kal. Did he to= o feel empty and afraid? There was not long to wait. Within moments the doors opened once mo= re and the councillors paced solemnly into the room and quickly joined Remy and Jen-Mai in their neat horseshoe formation. = Then, all in the great chamber stood as one body and Kal-El was ther= e and, for Lois, the rest of the world faded away as she was caught and hel= d in his warm, sherry-brown stare -- the emptiness was filled and the fear fled. Inside her head, she could hear his soft, husky voice repeat these= words of comfort. = Kal-El wanted to say so much more, but even this small message was risky; the law forbade any telepathic communication with a defendant. Bu= t there was no legislation against a smile or a glance, and he beamed gentl= y, with heartfelt relief on his wife, studying every inch of her beautiful face and form. Kal was not fooled by her rigid posture -- he knew what i= t cost her to stand stoically before the curious crowd, and she must suspec= t that many of them were out for her blood. The First Lord believed, optimistically, that this was not actually true and that his Lady would find many champions in the midst of his people. But there was no time fo= r further speculation as Lord Trey was formally opening the trial. The roo= m quietened. = Standing, the noble lord began. "By the power invested in me, I cal= l upon Lady Lois-El to answer the charges brought against her, by Lord Jun-Li, minister of the High Council to Lord Kal-El and the planet of Krypton." His voice continued in a monotone as he read the list of = charges . . . dereliction of duty . . . gross misconduct . . . the malicious intent to corrupt the moral and social structure of Krypton. Lois wondered if Trey had really needed to use the word malicious wi= th such relish -- that certainly couldn't have done her chances much good --= while Kal worried whether his and Lois' plans to dismantle the class-ridd= en society could possibly have been discovered. They had been very careful = to discuss this only in private and in places where they considered themselv= es secure . . . but, had they grown a little lax? The formal charges had been read and Trey was requesting Jun-Li to step forward and present his findings. The little man rose pompously, seeming to swell with the righteous power of one who knows he is on a crusade to triumph over wickedness. The self-appointed exorcist trooped centre-stage and in a voice that would be the envy of many a bible-thumpi= ng pastor back on Earth, he began his indictment. = "My Lord Kal-El, Councillors, noble men and women and citizens of Elvar, it gives me no satisfaction to stand before you today and bring su= ch charges against the First Lady, but nevertheless, I feel that I must do m= y duty to save my planet from the influence of one who was not born or rais= ed with the high intellect and moral standing as we on Krypton." The magisterial gentleman paused for effect. = Kal hid a sceptical grimace behind his hand - - Jun-Li was reading from the same script as Jen-Mai -- and yet, he was worried; just how much= did this witch-finder know? Satisfied that his audience was hanging on his every word, the littl= e prosecutor continued. "As some of you may know, I have been in seclusion= on my own lands for some time and recently, I returned to Elvar to take m= y place on the High Council of Krypton. It pained me to discover the chang= es that have taken place in the royal city, and indeed, in the lax attitude = I discerned amongst my fellow aristocrats, many of whom were discussing Earthen television and cinema productions and listening to very strange music -- if music it can be called -- churned out by young men dressed in= very weird costumes and with their faces painted in bizarre patterns -- young men who, I have since found out, on their own world enjoy creating mayhem and have no respect for authority . . . ." "You've been watching Punk Rockers and I agree, it's hardly musical.= = Why don't you try Country Music; you'll find it much more melodic and soothing," Lord Remy interrupted informatively. "And you can learn how t= o line dance too -- a very good way for we elderly people to keep in shape.= " "Very good for the heart and circulation," a voice from the hall suggested with authority and following the sound, Kal spotted it's source= , another diminutive Kryptonian had risen from his seat in the audience, Physician Tamar. = "If it's culture you're seeking, Earth has an abundance of classical= music . . . ." This voice came from another section of the auditorium. "And some excellent playwrights and novelists . . . ." "Opera . . . ." "Ballet . . . ." Jun-Li's head was moving from side to side as men and women stood to= add their support for Earth's entertainment media. Inside, he was shrinking as he felt himself losing control of the situation. His mentor= would not be pleased. "Pornography . . . ." A drawling, cultured voice prompted sneeringl= y and Kal was almost certain who had spoken, but Rad-Nor was too far away t= o be sure. "Yes, exactly!" The prosecution seized on the suggestion. = "Television channels and videos of men and women doing unmentionable thin= gs to each other." Jun-Li smiled in satisfaction and more than a little relief. "Oh, Lord Jun-Li, are you suggesting that there is something immoral= about sexual relations between a man and a woman?" Trey asked mildly. "No, of course not! There's nothing wrong in normal relationships between a husband and wife, as long as they keep their affairs private. = I'm talking about certain types of broadcasts which promote all sorts of perversion and bestiality." "Then, please enlighten us, Jun-Li." For the first time Lord Kal-El= joined the discourse. "I'm afraid that I've never viewed such broadcasts= but you appear to be an expert on the subject. Nor was I aware that our= tracking systems were picking up such communications. My Lady asked to b= e allowed to listen to some of her favourite musicians and also tune into a= number of mainstream television programmes -- all of which I'm sure would= meet with your high-blown opinions." All eyes were rivetted on the young= , yet highly disciplined man sitting with ease on the large throne. "I dou= bt that Lady Lois-El should be held accountable for whatever else is finding= its way, illegally, onto the holoscreens of Krypton. As you, obviously, watch these broadcasts and seem to know a great deal about their transmissions, then I'd say that the security forces would be interested = in asking you some questions." = There was a hum of conjecture about the hall and Jun-Li squirmed wit= h the air of a trapped rabbit as he regarded the mass of curious faces surrounding him. This was not the way things were supposed to be going. A tall, serious-faced gentleman in military uniform stood to attention amid the confusion and marched to the front of the gallery. = Commander Jace, head of the communication's security section, cleared his= throat loudly in order to gain the attention of the council and the crowd= . = The gossiping died away. "First Lord and Councillors, perhaps I can throw some light on the subject in question," the soldier formally addressed his government and when he received permission he quickly continued. "I am sorry to inform= you, but our monitoring systems have been picking up unlicensed communications of the nature that Lord Jun-Li has described. We believe that they are being bounced off a transmitter on the space station Caytan= , but so far, we have been unable to locate the receivers, mainly due to th= e fact that the transmissions are shielded by highly expensive and technica= l wizardry. If Lord Jun-Li has any relevant information, it is his duty to= bring it to us." Lord Kal-El leaned towards his security officer. "Commander Jace, i= s there a source here in the castle and do you suspect my wife of any wrong= doing?" Jace cleared his throat once more and, momentarily, Kal was afraid that he had asked such a direct question -- was Jace an enemy -- would th= e man lie to incriminate Lois? Yet, Kal had always found Jace to be a trustworthy and helpful official. "I'm afraid to tell you, sir, but yes, there is a pickup point here = in Elvar city. Unfortunately, none of our monitoring systems have been able= to break through the cloaking and pinpoint the exact spot." = "Then these vile transmissions are perhaps being received in Lady Lois-El's Earth-style apartment," Jun-Li pointed out sharply with emphasi= s on the words vile and Earth-style. "No! I can tell you, without a shadow of doubt, that the First Lad= y is not the culprit." The residents of Elvar amongst the throng began to look uncomfortabl= y askance at their neighbours. Who was receiving these signals? A covert sigh escaped Kal's lips as he let out the breath he had bee= n unconsciously holding and a quick glance at Lois informed him that she to= o had been devoid of the ability to breathe. "And you have proof of that statement, Commander?" Jun-Li enquired,= his self confidence slipping slightly "Yes, indeed!" Jace was warming to his task, extremely glad to be able to help the royal couple and especially the young Earth lady who had= shown such an interest in his position and was so grateful for the assistance he had given her. "Lord Kal-El, when you requested that a communications network be set up to provide Lady Lois with transmissions from Earth, I decided to oversee the procedure myself. All the First Lady's transmissions and communiques are recorded and monitored electronically, and if there were anything untoward the techno-intelligence systems would have brought it to our notice. Even shielded transmissions would register, though we wouldn't be able to deco= de them. However, no such messages have been recorded." "Then Lady Lois-El is not the guilty party?" Trey cross-examined. "I can retrieve the monitoring files from the system and play them f= or the court, if it were necessary. But I can assure the court that, though= we cannot say for certain who is receiving the transmissions, we can definitely rule out Lady Lois-El as the recipient." "Then I doubt that we need to hear these recordings at present." Tr= ey faced the gallery and announced decisively, "And, since it seems that ou= r First Lady has no knowledge of the illegal transmissions from Earth, I'm dismissing the charge of corruption." = "But, Lord Trey, what about the new department at the Library of Elv= ar devoted to all the = publications and culture of Earth?" Jun-Li whined. Again, from the gallery, another gentleman rose in deep dudgeon. "M= y Lord, I protest! Everything held in our library is legal and of a highly= moral standing." On this occasion, it was the leader of the city fathers= who gave vent to his indignation. "And even if it were not, while Lady Lois-El graciously opened our new wing, she did not choose the contents o= r exhibits, though she was a very helpful and knowledgeable source of information." And satisfied that he had cleared up this point in favour = of the girl he had come to respect and admire, the gentleman returned to his= seat, a ghost of a smile hovering on his lips. He had omitted to tell th= e gathering that the First Lady also asked many astute questions regarding the administration of the city -- somehow he felt that the aristocracy weren't yet ready for the revelation that they had a disciple of Earth's feminist movement within their midst. = "The charge is dismissed," and as Trey spoke, in a similar action fr= om the day before, he banged the gavel to enforce this announcement. "And Jun-Li, if you do have any pertinent information, I suggest you talk to Commander Jace at the end of these proceedings." Trey's warning to Jun-= Li was clear -- drop the charge or find himself suspect. "Continue with you= r other charges, Lord Prosecutor, and let's hope that you have something mo= re concrete than you have yet produced." A harried and somewhat shrunken Jun-Li bobbled forward to address th= e gathering once more. "Yes, Lord Trey, the charge of trying to subvert th= e social structure of Krypton." Both the First Lord and Lady stiffened perceptibly at these words. "The question of Lady Lois- El's choice of Lady-in-Waiting, namely the serving girl Etta." Relief flooded the royal couple and the dowager Lady of El -- the onl= y other Kryptonian present who understood a little of Kal's and Lois' purpo= se for this world. Thank Zor, that the elevation of Etta was Li's target. = But this contretemps gave warning of how carefully the couple would have = to be in pursuit of their long term goal; caution must be their watchword. Heaving a sigh of resignation, Trey sought to enlighten this foolhard= y Lord. "Lord Jun-Li, at the time the council sanctioned Lady Lois' choice= of Lady-in-Waiting, we can hardly turn around now and charge her with the= crime of subversion -- you might as well indict the whole council. Move = on to your next charge." ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:33:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Universal Union Book3/Part8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Title: Universal Union Book3/Part 8 Author: Jenni Debbage Rating: PG-13 ~~~~~~~~~~ A pregnant pause stretched out while the chief prosecutor remained immobile, staring off into some undefined point in the auditorium. It seemed as if he had run out of steam. Kal, however, was not fooled; he w= as exactly aware of what Jun-Li was seeking - - instructions from his master= . = And it seemed that these silent orders were issued swiftly as the pretentious accuser returned to his task, yet with less than his earlier enthusiasm. "Fellow councillors, I intend now to show where Lady Lois-El's true loyalties lie and in what low esteem she holds this world of Krypton." T= he censorial voice had developed a distinct wobble and the man took a deep breath before proceeding. "It has come to my notice that a few days ago the Lady of El gave an intimate dinner-party in her private apartments to= celebrate an American holiday . . . ." "And this is a crime?!" Lois could not contain her exasperation. "Lady Lois-El," the First Minister reprimanded. = "Sorry, I'll be good," Lois offered with a semi-contrite smile. Jun-Li was getting his second wind and he grinned superciliously at the defendant. "Not in itself, no! But, Prime Councillor, the Lady's state of mind regarding Krypton is relevant to my final charge." "Then please hurry along with your point, Lord Jun-Li, this trial is= lasting over long," Trey warned. "It appears that the Els' private apartment was adorned not with the= symbols of Krypton but with the paraphernalia of Lois Lane's native land,= commonly known as the Stars and Stripes." There was nothing common about the Stars and Stripes and Lois almost= jumped right in, but she had learned her lesson. "Lord Trey, may I speak= ?" "Of course, Lady Lois-El," The grey haired chairman of her judges an= d jury emphasised her Kryptonian title. "It is perfectly correct for you = to speak in your own defence. Please, go right ahead." For the first time since Kal had strode into the room, Lois rose to her feet and faced this preening pigeon, and controlling her racing heartbeat, she calmly asked, "Lord Jun-Li, what is that design you are displaying on your chest?" The man appeared flustered for some seconds. "What has that got to = do with anything?" "Please answer Lady Lois' question," Trey advised. "It's the crest of my family, the badge of the House of Li." "And does this badge decorate your home, Lord Li?" = "Of course it does! Every noble house on Krypton displays the badge= of their house!" Lois nodded her head sagely in agreement. "And would I be correct i= n assuming, if you or any other noble travelled outside Krypton, that you would still wear your crest and adorn your living space with the symbol?"= = "Indeed I would, girl!" Li was rattled. "And I would be proud to do= so!" "Jun-Li! My wife has a title and you have not been given the right = to dispense with it!" The First Lord's warning was clear and yet, in truth, Kal was desperately trying to repress a grin -- he knew exactly where Lois was headed. A harassed Li bobbed a quick bow in acknowledgement. "I have no quarrel with you on this point, Lord Li," Lois admitted reasonably. "Where I come from we don't go in much for family crests, bu= t we do have national flags, which the people of Earth also are proud to show. I had not thought that the enlightened population of Krypton would= believe it criminal in others that which they themselves consider an hono= ur to do." "Touche, Lois," smiled Kal from behind his hand as the rest of the audience grinned in growing esteem of this spirited young lady. "I believe the Earthen expression is 'hoist on your own petard.' No= w, if you've finished, Lord Prosecutor, perhaps we can all go home?" Lord Trey was of the opinion that most of the council and witnesses in the hal= l were growing increasingly irritated with the proceedings and he was ready= to wrap the whole thing up. = "But, My Lord, I have not yet addressed my final and most serious charge," Li desperately sought permission to plead his case. He was only= too cognizant of what might be his miserable future if he failed to gain = a conviction . . . presuming, of course, that he had a future. Why ever di= d he get in bed with the devil? Trey was conflicted -- this trial was a travesty of justice and he should, by rights, throw it out. Nonetheless, to do so might not be in Lady Lois' best interests; too many nit-picking aristocrats would remembe= r that she had not been found totally innocent. He had to let this farce play to its conclusion. "Very well, get on with it, Lord Li, and let's make this worth the court's time." Trey could not hide his annoyance. Jun-Li would have like a few moments to compose himself, but conscio= us of the mood of impatience that pervaded the hall, he decided that speed w= as of the essence -- and surely he would find support from his fellow nobles= for his final indictment. After all, the girl's actions in Veren were bordering on criminal negligence and so he would prove. Li stepped forwa= rd with renewed conviction. "I wish to review the happenings of that fateful day in the city of Veren when Lady Lois's wilful pursuit of her own frivolous pleasures led = to the tragic loss of all our hopes -- the heir to the House of El and the throne of Kryton." In the lofty chamber, filled with overheated bodies, one could hear = a pin drop. More amateur dramatics, Kal thought as he reviewed the audienc= e, trying to gauge their reaction to this last pronouncement. Unhappily, he= was entirely aware that some of his class actually agreed with Li's summation. So intent was he on his study, he did not immediately realise= that he was being addressed by his wife's prosecutor. Lord Kal-El turned= an imperious eye on the little man -- two could play at theatrics. "I beg your pardon, Lord Jun-Li," he drawled with emphasis, "I did n= ot hear my correct title . . ." Li had addressed him only as Lord Kal-El, "= . . . so I was not aware you were talking to me. Perhaps you could repeat the question," Kal ended helpfully. = "First Lord," Li stressed, annoyed by the rebuke, yet heedful of the= fact that this juvenile leader was actually in the right. "I asked if yo= u were angry when you discovered that your Lady had left Veren Castle witho= ut your permission or without any security detail." Kal did not answer straight away, remembering that there had been anger mixed in with all his other emotions that had assailed him on discovering Lois was missing; he was not, however, about to admit that in= this forum -- rather he chose to focus on another part of Li's assumption= s. "My lady was not a prisoner in the castle and she didn't need my permission to go where ever or how ever she wished to go." The disapproving prosecutor looked decidedly sceptical and Kal-El cringed inwardly. He wasn't being totally dishonest but he was being a little economical with the truth. "Come, come, First Lord, you surely don't expect this court to belie= ve that you hadn't warned your wife of the danger of wandering around the streets of Veren without a bodyguard." Jun-Li had sauntered to the front= of the gallery again and swept a magisterial hand over the hall; this lin= e of attack was going well and he could sense the audience hanging on his every word. He was, however, disconcerted when he turned to face his quarry -- the boy was smiling . . . . "As a matter of fact, Lord Jun-Li, I had assured my wife that she wa= s completely safe in the city of Veren." That wasn't the total transcript = of that conversation between Lois and himself, but it was definitely all tha= t he was about to divulge. "Perhaps, my Lord Prosecutor, you should charge= me with misinformation, for it was certainly my assurances that prompted Lady Lois to leave the castle with only her friends . . . ." "Or I should be charged with failing to ensure the safety of my roya= l guest!" Another, different voice joined in the cross-examination and all hea= ds turned to discover who was the late arrival. Standing on the central stairs of the auditorium was an imposing man of middle years, his entoura= ge filling the stairway behind him all the way to the still open doors. The= noble Lord of Veren with his lady by his side, held sway over the expecta= nt throng. "Lord Dax-Ver, your arrival is most . . . unexpected!" Jun-Li stammered, plainly flustered by this turn of events. "I fail to see why, Councillor." Dax took a few steps forward but remained some way above the floor of the hall. "I heard of this trial yesterday and I came poste-haste. If blame is to be apportioned for the abduction of the First Lady, then I am here to accept my punishment." Breaking the tableau and determined to regain the upper hand, which was not an easy task while he had to look up to the man, Lord Li laughed disparagingly at the newcomer. "I don't think, Lord Dax-Ver, that you ca= n be held accountable for those within your city or the exploits of the Fir= st Lady." "I disagree, Jun-Li! As Lord of Veren, I am ultimately responsible for all that happens within its boundaries. And, knowing I had royal guests, I should have made certain that my security forces were especiall= y vigilant -- Ballen and his cutthroats should never have made it through t= he gates." "But according to my sources, these Taureans were in disguise and yo= u could not know what they were plotting . . . ." "Jun-Li!" Kal's voice was razor sharp. "At your last supposition, you were of the opinion that Ballen had acted on chance when he abducted = my wife. I presume that you no longer think that's so?" "And, if we are to assume that Lord Ver was unaware of Ballen's presence and the kidnapping plot, then doesn't it follow that Lady Lois-E= l would be just as oblivious?" Lord Remy joined in the interrogation. "I . . . I'm not sure what to think . . ." Li muttered in desperatio= n. "I only know that the Lady was guilty of . . . ." ". . . Of not knowing she was a target of an evil plot," Lord Trey interjected, "and that is hardly a crime. And if Lady Lois was a little unwise, then let me tell all of you gathered here that she has paid for h= er misjudgment a thousand-fold; to us the loss was of the heir to the throne= . . . to Lady Lois and Lord Kal-El it was their child. Let us not forget that." Those in the great hall who had come to witness the humiliation o= f an alien, squirmed shame-faced in their seats, while those who supported the Els nodded in compassionate understanding. Satisfied that this tragi= c episode could now be brought to a close, the chairman of the judicial bod= y declared, "this case is dismissed!" And with an exultant flourish, the gavel descended in a resounding thud. = ***** The lap of water eddied round the rotting wooden piers of the dock a= nd blended with the constant drone of windblown sleet on the broken shutters= . = The weather this night was filthy and this travellers' lodge was certain= ly no cleaner. The troubled, pinched-faced man ran a tentative hand along t= he mantle above the meagre fire and frowned in disgust at the smoky- black smear on his finger tips. He shivered, and the cause was not only the da= nk cold which filled the hovel -- Jun-Li was afraid. Why on Krypton was he here, when he could be lounging in warmth and comfort in his townhouse? Yet, even, Jun-Li had to admit that the messag= e, delivered by a black-cloaked figure in the corridors of Elvar Castle, did= have some merit. Given that his campaign to arraign the First Lady had collapsed miserably, he understood that the authorities might have some questions for him. He did not know the identity of the messenger, the man's cloak had a large hood which had been pulled over his face, but he realised who had sent him and the short note that was pushed into his han= d, instructing him to come here, was not a request but an order, and it did not pay to disobey his powerful neighbour. Li had a family at home, and = he had no doubt that the infamous Lord whose bidding he had chosen to do, would have no qualms in taking retribution on his loved ones if he failed= to toe his master's line. He accepted that it was his own fault and that if he got in bed with= a devil like Rad-Nor, then he could expect no mercy. The thing was that he= had believed in his crusade. He had never supported the popular choice o= f an Earth woman to be wife to the First Lord and, though things hadn't gon= e his way today, he still believed that one day the rest of the noble class= es would see that he had been right. Now, for his pains, he was skulking in some iniquitous den in the down-trodden district of Elvar's long forgotten dockland. Once, this had= been a thriving port where great ships had plied their trade across the oceans, transporting merchandise to all the lands in Krypton. But time a= nd technology had caught up with the seafaring brotherhood and now hovercra= ft or short haul spaceships had taken their place. Kryptonians took to the water only for pleasure in these modern times and new, luxurious marinas had been built in every coastal city to accommodate this leisure activity= . = This derelict section had been left to the down and outs, the people on Krypton who chose to live outside the social structure or the law, and in= this prosperous city there were not many of those about -- the El family looked after its own -- as he had discovered, to his cost. But not only the Els had protected Lady Lois. Her support had come from many houses, not to mention the security forces and the important ci= ty factions. Following Trey's dismissal of all the charges, Li had stood dumbfounded as the First Lord had crossed the council hall to Lois-El's side and formally escorted her from the dock, then, throwing caution to t= he wind the happy husband had swept his wife into a huge bear-hug. The girl= had responded by locking her arms around his neck and lifting her feet fr= om the floor. The audience had clapped and even cheered, when Kal had plant= ed his lips firmly on Lois' mouth in an undignified display of affection. W= as Jun-Li the only one in the hall to consider the behaviour ill-bred and totally unacceptable in the First Lord and Lady? Much to his dismay, the defeated prosecutor had been jostled and pushed aside as the Els, the Vers and other well-wishers had joined the Ministers in an ever expanding group around the couple -- all offering their congratulations to the First Lady on her vindication. Jun-Li had slipped away unnoticed and deflated, at least, so he had thought. But someone had watched his escape and sent a messenger with the missive that= had brought him to this awful place. = = A soft, furtive knock interrupted his reverie and he crossed to the door and tentatively opened it a crack. It was better to be more safe th= an sorry in this zorforsaken hole. The dim light of the passageway gave awa= y little information about his visitor -- except for the fact that this person was swathed in a thick dark cloak -- probably the same man who had= delivered the message. Li stood aside to give the unknown caller access and soundlessly the phantom figure slipped inside. "Zor! But this place is a mess!" exclaimed the gentleman as he view= ed the room with mounting revulsion. "How can you stand this?" Then he laughed scornfully. "Oh, I forgot . . . you have no choice." = The shielding hood had slipped back from the visitor's face and Jun-= Li gasped in = recognition . . . he had seen this man before . . . in the castle . . . = "You! I know you! What are you doing here?" Jun-Li demanded, fear and= bravado vying for position in his voice. Had the authorities discovered= his hiding place already, and was he about to be arrested? Still smiling the man spoke reasonably. "I've come to give you your= fee for services rendered. Don't you want it?" The frightened host relaxed visibly at these words . . . which was a= mistake. "Oh," said Jun-Li brightening somewhat, "I had not thought that Rad-Nor would pay me, since I failed in my attempt . . ." "Rad-Nor always takes care of his servants." Almost too swiftly for Jun-Li to contemplate what was happening, the= messenger stepped closer to his prey and, pulling an injection gun from beneath his cloak, he held it against the exposed scraggy neck of a shock= ed Lord Li. From the second that the lethal gases permeated the blanched skin, Jun-Li felt their deadly effect. He stared in stunned terror at hi= s assailant, clutching at him with claw-like hands for support. But his fingers would not obey his clouding mind and he found himself sliding slowly down the man's body to the floor -- his sight was fading and his breath fluttered within his throat. With great disdain the assassin laid= the stricken man on the floor and, even before the door closed behind him= as he hurried away, Jun-Li was no more. = ***** tbc in part 9 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 13:47:50 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: Re: Universal Union Book3/Part8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This was awesome! . . . . . . . . .. . .. . . . . .. Loved the trial! So glad Lois got off! But I wanted to see Lois and Kal afterwards not Jun-Li *pouting*. But I guess that's coming next time! I can't wait for more! I am just loving this! CM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:16:06 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: Re: A new quiz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, I'm game... S P O I L E R S P A C E Except I couldn't recognise ANY of them :( All I can suggest is that the theme is WAFF. Yvonne (yvonne@yconnell.fsnet.co.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:36:37 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Dennis Arendt Subject: Curiosity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know who the first author to post a story on the archives was? Brenda ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:40:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: A new quiz Okay, I give up - I've got all but two, and I CANNOT find those final two! s p o i l e r s p a c e The theme is TOGOM rewrites/adaptations/continuations. And, Dia, I never realised there were so many! Extract 1: TOGOM: Yet Another Version, by Tank Wilson Quote 2: That Super Man of Mine, by me Quote 3: If Only, by Rose (another TOGOM addict! ) Q/E4: No idea. I've searched and searched... Extract 5: That Clark of Mine, by Jana Lippe Extract 6: That Lois Lane of Mine, by Rose again - and I *have* to comment again on my favourite lines in this story - Rose, they bring a lump to my throat every time: >>>She'd allowed him, in her friendship, to melt the ice around her heart, and share a part of her that Clark didn't think anyone else had truly shared. And he'd offered her a pair of glasses, and a flashy cape.<<< Q/E7: No idea Quote 8: Private Grief, by Pam Jernigan Quote 9: The Confession, by me Extract 10: The Day After TOGOM, by Lin-Suen Tan Extract 11: TOGOM Version 487, by Tank Wilson (another addict ) Quote 12: Shattered Illusions, by me Quote 13: When Friends Become Lovers, by Kathy Brown and Demi. Great quiz, Dia! :) Wendy (who wonders whether anyone will get full marks!) ----------- Wendy Richards wendy@kingsmeadowcr.freeserve.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:49:26 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Lorie Y. Crisp" Subject: Re: Curiosity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heh. What an interesting question. I'd like to know too! Lorie ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:59:34 -0600 Reply-To: truitt22@flash.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: timothy truitt Organization: tnt technical services Subject: Re: Fanfic question - Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit He was also in the one where Clark was a baby when L&C went back to 1966. merry "Irene D." wrote: > I'm just curious as to how many episodes Ralph > actually was in. I remember the Mxy Christmas > episode, and the one when Clark left to be with the > New Kryptonians (Which one was that, btw?) but were > there others? > > Irene > > ===== > www.originalequestrianmusic.bigstep.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:59:54 -0600 Reply-To: truitt22@flash.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: timothy truitt Organization: tnt technical services Subject: Re: Fanfic question - Ralph MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit and meet the presses merry "Irene D." wrote: > I'm just curious as to how many episodes Ralph > actually was in. I remember the Mxy Christmas > episode, and the one when Clark left to be with the > New Kryptonians (Which one was that, btw?) but were > there others? > > Irene > > ===== > www.originalequestrianmusic.bigstep.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:57:58 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Giovanni Prato Subject: R: A new quiz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This are my answered.. I guess I made..... 0 But I tried without Cheat! ^___^ S P O I L E R S P A C E Quote1 Can it be Ann's Growing pain? Quote 3: Clark's lips curled into a sleepy, and somewhat sad grin. *If only that were true, Lois. If only.* Hélène's NWH s p o i l e r s p a c e Excerpt 1: ******** Excerpt 2: boh!!!!!!!!!1 ******** Excerpt 3: mmm It remember me "when Friend become Lovers" by Kathy BRown and Demi? no.. it's wrong.. But it's the same episode :oþ ******** Excerpt 4: ******** Excerpt 5: ohhhh I have to read it,.... I remember I read this one... But I guess Ihave to refresh my memory! ^__^ ******** Excerpt 6: mmm can this be WEndy's Faux Pas ******** Excerpt 7: DAMN I remeber this I remeber this!!!!!! Don't say me... I know.. I know!... ******** Excerpt 8: NO IDEA AT ALL ******** Excerpt 9: That's remeber me Healing time... But they can't be all Wendys'! ******** Excerpt 10: NO IDEA AT ALL ******** Excerpt 11: NO IDEA AT ALL ******** Excerpt 12: No idea.. can this be Shattered illusion by Wendy? ******** Excerpt 13: I would say again Faux Pas by Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 23:59:36 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Chiara P Subject: R: R: A new quiz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit That was me! Sorry! I forgot to change the name ^__^ ChiaraP -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Giovanni Prato" A: Data invio: venerdì 30 marzo 2001 23.57 Oggetto: R: A new quiz > This are my answered.. I guess I made..... 0 But I tried without Cheat! > ^___^ > > S > > P > > O > > I > > L > > E > > R > > S > > P > > A > > C > > E > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote1 > Can it be Ann's Growing pain? > > > Quote 3: > Clark's lips curled into a sleepy, and somewhat sad grin. *If only that > were true, Lois. If only.* > Hélène's NWH > > > > > s > p > o > i > l > e > r > > s > p > a > c > e > > Excerpt 1: > > > ******** > Excerpt 2: > boh!!!!!!!!!1 > > ******** > Excerpt 3: > > > mmm It remember me "when Friend become Lovers" by Kathy BRown and Demi? > no.. it's wrong.. But it's the same episode :oþ > > ******** > Excerpt 4: > > > ******** > Excerpt 5: > > ohhhh I have to read it,.... I remember I read this one... But I guess Ihave > to refresh my memory! ^__^ > > ******** > Excerpt 6: > > mmm can this be WEndy's Faux Pas > > ******** > Excerpt 7: > > DAMN I remeber this I remeber this!!!!!! Don't say me... I know.. I know!... > > ******** > Excerpt 8: > NO IDEA AT ALL > > ******** > Excerpt 9: > > That's remeber me Healing time... But they can't be all Wendys'! > > ******** > Excerpt 10: > NO IDEA AT ALL > > > ******** > Excerpt 11: > NO IDEA AT ALL > > ******** > Excerpt 12: > > No idea.. can this be Shattered illusion by Wendy? > ******** > Excerpt 13: > > I would say again Faux Pas by Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:43:38 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: A new quiz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Replying *hours* late... Thanks for the quiz, Dia! These are always fun to do :) s p o i l e r s p a c e I didn't get many by the quotes... but I did discern a theme -- TOGOM rewrites So then I could search all the rewrites to find the quotes We've written so many of these they really should have their own Hall of Shame on the Archive Or we could just refer people to Wendy's section ;) Q1: Tank Wilson's "TOGOM Vignette" Q2: That Super Man of Mine, by Wendy Q3: thought it might be one of Wendy's... Q4: Don't know it Q5: tricky! I don't think that's Clark talking, I think it's either Jonathan or Perry... I thought it might be Shattered Illusions but I guess not... Q6: Dunno Q7: sounds like Degeneration, by Jeff Brogden (wow, talk about time travel! ) Q8: Now this one I recognized on sight -- good thing, too, since it was from one of my stories! (although I almost said the wrong one!) Private Grief, by me Q9: too short, don't know it Q10 -12: Just don't know them Q13: When Friends Become Lovers, by Kathy (I knew this had to be one of them! ) let's see if the extracts help me any... E3: Aww, sweet... don't know it tho E4: LOL! What is this?? E5: nope... E6: okay, I wanna read this... E7: Good thing I got it from the quote! I'd never have guessed it from this... E9: oh, that could be anything... grr... I'm feeling very stupid right now! E12: Now this one sounds like Shattered Illusions, lemme check... yep! :) Okay, that's all... hmm, I need to read more... Thanks again, Dia, this was fun :) Now let's check the other answers, to see how many people got my story! -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam http://personal.rdu.bellsouth.net/~jernigan/ The difference between journalists and other people is that other people spend their lives running from violence, tragedy, and horror and we spend ours trying to get in on it. --P.J. O'Rourke ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 19:15:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I haven't watched this in a while, but that same question bothered me. I think that Lois was taking the food out of the paper bag when Supes came in and she got so flustered that she forgot what she was doing and started putting the food back into the bag instead of taking it out. So he commented, "We'll never eat that way." Anybody else remember it that way? :) Jude ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Anklewicz" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars > Just before the mayor (Sonny Bono) says to Lois, "I got you babe" a > reference to his hit song with Cher, he says as an answer to the TV > reporter's question, "And the heat goes on" a reference to another one of > his songs, "And the beat goes on." There are a lot of pop culture > references in the show and the writers, I think, liked to play around with > them. > > I have a question about a part I never understood. > > Superman says to Lois as she puts her "dinner" back into the paper bag > that they'll never eat that way. I never understood what he meant other > than they won't eat out of a bag? I don't get it. Can anyone explain? > > Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:26:32 -0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bethy Em Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Any other writing forums? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Thanks everyone for your replies. Hazel -- I tried the alt.creative.writing and didn't get anything. Is there supposed to be some 'w's at the beginning or something? Leanne -- I checked out The Gate, and it looks interesting. I will definitely check out their archive. I think I've decided to start one of my own, though. Just power-hungry, I guess. ;-) Also, I've gotten an idea in my head of what I want, and so naturally, the best way to fit all the criteria in this messed up mind of mine is to create it myself. So, Irene and Alexis, I'll let you (and the rest of the list, in case there are others interested) know the details when I get it going. And if anybody has any suggestions, feel free to let me know. Ooh, I'm so excited! Bethy PS This isn't too far OT, is it, Kathy? I don't want anyone mad at me or anything... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:19:29 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Any other writing forums? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:26 AM 31/03/2001 -0000, you wrote: >Thanks everyone for your replies. > >Hazel -- I tried the alt.creative.writing and didn't get anything. Is there >supposed to be some 'w's at the beginning or something? Bethy, this is a newsgroup. You gotta subscribe through your newsreader, not type it into your internet browser, which is what puts the www. in front... Or go to deja.com and search for it there... (Is Deja still around? It's been so long!) Melisma (ducking confusedly back under her Rock) Visit my rock at http://www.intergate.ca/personal/melisma/index.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 11:33:26 +0100 Reply-To: LabRat Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Organization: LabRat Subject: Re: A new quiz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dia wrote: I had so much fun with the Kerth quizzes that I decided to write a quiz of my own :) I'd intended to send this out in the week after everyone finished voting while we were waiting for the results, but I was away from my computer for that week. What a wonderful idea, Dia! Course, I'm completely stumped. I've kind of guessed the theme...but only after reading Wendy's answer. ;) LabRat :) (miserably reminded of how many stories she's still to read here....) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:50:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gerry Anklewicz Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars In-Reply-To: <003301c0b990$e0a65440$befafd3f@v1t9j4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jude wrote: I haven't watched this in a while, but that same question bothered me. I think that Lois was taking the food out of the paper bag when Supes came in and she got so flustered that she forgot what she was doing and started putting the food back into the bag instead of taking it out. So he commented, "We'll never eat that way." Anybody else remember it that way? and Carolyn wrote: In the scene, Lois has come over to cook dinner for Superman (and Clark). When she gets there and talks to Clark, she pulls the groceries out of the bag she has brought with her. When Clark goes to find Sman for her and comes back as Sman, Lois gets flustered by Sman's presence and begins to put the groceries back in the bag, which is quite hilarious. That's when he says his line, referring to the fact that nothing will get cooked if it is placed back in the bag. Does that help? but I'm still confused. I always understood the context. But why did Supes say something as stupid as "We'll never eat that way" and what does "that" refer to. Out of a bag? By the way, Carolyn, I don't think that Lois really brought anything to "cook". She had pasta salad that was already in the bowl. I know this is really nit-picking, but I've always wondered and I'm not satisfied yet. Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:05:49 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gerry Anklewicz Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Any other writing forums? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bethy writes: >PS This isn't too far OT, is it, Kathy? I don't want anyone mad at me or >anything... I hope that others don't find this OT because I'd be interested to see what you get started. I like the idea of expanding our writing and our reading. Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:54:01 +0100 Reply-To: LabRat Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Organization: LabRat Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As far as I always understood this scene 'We'll never eat that way' refers to the fact that if Lois is putting the food back into the bag it will never get prepared, cooked or eaten. Clark is noting that she has to take it out of the bag first to do all of those things and that putting the items she's just taken *out* of the bag back *in* somewhat defeats her intended purpose of making him a meal. He was just being cute. I can't remember what items were in the bag, but even so in the bag they were pretty useless. LabRat :) > > but I'm still confused. I always understood the context. But why did > Supes say something as stupid as "We'll never eat that way" and what does > "that" refer to. Out of a bag? > By the way, Carolyn, I don't think that Lois really brought anything to > "cook". She had pasta salad that was already in the bowl. > > I know this is really nit-picking, but I've always wondered and I'm not > satisfied yet. > > Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 12:07:01 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: First Night VI: Revelation, 5/5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The final part of chapter 6, revelation. FDK appreciated! CM ***** "There he is now." Ellen pointed discreetly. Lucy and Lois turned towards the door. There stood their father, and right behind him came a man dressed in an electric blue suit with a red cape. The three women watched the skin-tight suit as he spoke quickly with the head waiter, but for very different reasons. Lois wondered what her husband was up to and why he was with her father. Ellen and Lucy were just gawking at the superhero, barely noticing the ex-husband and father who was walking across the restaurant toward them. "Good evening, ladies," Sam said as he kissed all three women on the cheek. As he started to sit down, Clark walked up with the owner of the restaurant. "Excuse me, ladies. Gentlemen." He turned to nod at Clark, including him in the group. "Superman has requested that I move your party to a private room off of the main dining area. He felt you would like the privacy. And since he stopped a robbery here last week, he has requested that you receive the meal I promised him. If you will follow me, please?" Lois and Clark shared a look as her family stood to follow Antonio. Lucy led the line, followed by Lois, her mother and father. Clark brought up the rear. Lois whispered softly, so only her husband's super hearing could pick it up. "I don't know if I can do this, Clark. I didn't know my father was going to be here." She felt eyes on the back of her head and knew that some were reassuring, worried and protective and others were not. Antonio led them into a small, private room. He gallantly held chairs for each of the women, careful to leave a place between the sisters for Clark, just as Superman had requested. "Who's the fifth spot for?" demanded Sam. "Me, sir." Clark tried to be polite to this man who had just finished insulting him to a certain superhero. "And who are you?" "Clark Kent." He didn't know what to say his relationship to Lois was. Her partner? Her friend? Her husband? "Her new partner at work?" Sam was still questioning this young man. He noticed a wedding band on his finger. "Does your wife know you're here?" "Sir?" "That is a wedding ring, isn't it?" "Yes, sir." This wasn't going well at all. It suddenly hit Ellen. "You're the one who answered the phone at Lois' apartment this morning, aren't you?" "Yes, ma'am," answered Clark helplessly. Sam stood. "So you, a married man, were sleeping at my daughter's house? What kind of man are you?" Clark didn't answer. He'd let Lois handle it as she saw fit. "You are despicable. You are scum. You are lower than scum. You are a nothing from nowhere and I want you out of here and away from my daughter." "If that's what she wants, sir." "What about your wife? What about what she wants?" Clark was quiet again. Lois spoke up softly. "Stop it, Daddy." "No, I won't. This... this... THING is married and he is taking advantage of you." "No, he's not, Daddy." Lois was struggling to keep her composure. "He's using you as the other woman, Lois. He doesn't deserve to live." "No, he's not, Daddy." The tears started pouring down Lois' cheeks. Clark finally spoke up, putting one comforting hand on Lois' shoulder. "Sir, you can say whatever you want to me or about me, but you are upsetting your daughter and I find that unacceptable." Sam Lane lost what little reserve he had left. "UNACCEPTABLE?! I find that laughable coming from an adulterer who is taking advantage of my baby." Lois spoke up again, grateful for Clark's hand on her shoulder. "Stop it, Daddy." "No, he doesn't deserve to live. Ladies, I think it's time that we left. Maybe he'll go home to his *wife*." "I'm his wife, Daddy." "Never mind that, Lois. Let's go." "Did you hear me, Daddy? *I'm* his wife." "WHAT?!" The same expression came from both of her parents simultaneously. Lois stood. She spoke slowly, carefully enunciating each word. "I am Clark's wife." She turned and started to leave the room. Clark followed her to the door and put a hand on her shoulder, stopping her before she could leave. She turned and buried her head in his chest, her body shaking with her sobs. He wrapped comforting arms around her and whispered into her hair. "Shh, honey. It's okay. I'm here with you. Don't worry." He spoke softly over and over until she began to calm down. She pulled back from him, wiping her face with her hands. "I'm okay, Clark. Really." "Are you SURE?" The worry was evident on his face and she knew he wasn't just talking about her. He was worried what effect this might have on their baby. She sighed. She wasn't sure she was ready to face that, but it would be better to get it over with in one night. "Would you tell them please?" she whispered. "Of course." Clark really didn't want the unpleasant task, but was more than willing to take the weight off the slender shoulders of his wife. He turned and faced Sam and Ellen Lane, as his wife again buried her head in his chest, refusing to look at her family. He took a deep breath and started speaking. "I know this is a shock to all of you, but I need to ask that you calm down. All you really need to know is that I love your daughter more than my own life; I would do anything for her. I will take Lois and leave if you can't talk about this calmly and rationally. She doesn't need the additional stress. " Sam exploded again. "Who are you to say what my daughter needs?" Clark tried to remain calm. "Sir, I understand that you're upset and I know you only want the best for your daughter, but she is my wife and," he took another deep breath, "she is carrying my child. If you insist on not calming down, I will take her and leave. The stress isn't good for your daughter or your grandchild, so - and this is the last time I am going to say it - if you can't be calm and rational, we'll leave." Ellen was obviously distraught at the disclosure that her daughter was pregnant. She sat in her chair, her body limp. Sam exploded again. "WHAT?! You knocked her up?! Is THAT why you got married? How long have you been married, anyway? When is the baby due?" Clark, a resigned, sad look on his face, said, "I'm sorry you feel that way. When you feel you can discuss this like adults, please call us." His hand was on the doorknob as he said, "Come on, honey. I'm sorry I couldn't get them to calm down. You don't need this kind of stress." Lois stepped back from her husband's sheltering arms. "No, Clark, we need to get this over with." The love and concern in his eyes was almost too much for her. "Are you sure?" "Yes." She turned to her family, holding tightly to her husband's hand. "Daddy, sit down. Please. Yes, Clark and I are married. We've been married for a little over two weeks and I am about two weeks pregnant, not that it's any of your business. As for all of the talk about me being the other woman, don't think that we've forgotten what you did to Mom all those years ago. You're not innocent of cheating on your wife, so you can lose the holier-than-thou attitude. I love Clark and he loves me. That should be all you need to know. If you would like to have dinner, you are welcome to stay, but if you can't calm down, we WILL leave. I'm not just looking out for me anymore. We didn't plan on having a family this soon, but it is happening and we both want this baby very much and I will NOT jeopardize my health or the health of our child because you can't calm down. Will you lose the attitude?" Sam sat slowly, unused to being talked to that way by either of his children. "I suppose this is your influence on her," he mumbled. "Daddy," Lois warned. "Okay, okay. I'll calm down. You know I would never do anything to hurt you. I'm going to the men's room. I'll be back in a minute." Sam walked to the door and his daughter and son-in-law moved out of his way. He glared at the younger man as he left. "Mother?" "Lois, how could you do this to me?" "What?" "How could you do this to me, Lois? You up and marry some *man* without so much as introducing him to us and you expect us to just sit here and be happy for you? And you're pregnant on top of that? You always said your career was the most important thing in your life and now you are throwing it all away. If this was any kind of man, he'd know how important it was to you and wouldn't get you pregnant as soon as you got married. And what kind of man wouldn't want to get to know your family before he married you, anyway? How long have you known him? How do we know what he's like? You've never mentioned him before, so you can't have known him too long, so how do you really know what he's like? This is just like you, Lois. Making big life decisions without thinking and without consulting the people who care about you the most." Clark had been trying to get a word in edgewise, but was unable to. The Lane babble gene did come from both sides of the family. "Mrs. Lane... " "Clark!" Lois was barely able to get the word out. She slumped in his arms, holding her abdomen in obvious pain. Clark, concern and fear evident in his eyes, lowered her to the ground. "What is it, Lois? What's wrong?" Sam Lane chose that moment to come back into the room. Seeing his daughter lying on the ground, he turned to Clark. "What did you do to her, you bastard?" Even Sam couldn't help but see the agony in Clark's eyes as the younger man looked to him for help. "She's in pain, sir. You're a doctor, what's wrong? Please help her." Sam was at her side in an instant. "Where does it hurt, baby?" All Lois could do was hold her lower abdomen and groan. Sam gently prodded her stomach with his hands, eliciting a yelp from his impromptu patient. It was almost more than Clark could take. "You're hurting her." "Not on purpose. She needs to go to the hospital right away." Lois looked at her father, fear and tears spilling from her eyes. She managed to whisper, "Is it the baby?" Sam shook his head. "I can't tell, Lois. I'm going to call an ambulance." Clark looked at his wife. "Lois, honey, do you want me to go find Superman? He can be here in a minute and you'll get there faster." Lois nodded. Sam looked uncertain, but replied, "If you can find the guy, that would be best." Clark gently handed Lois over to her father. He looked at Sam and told him, in no uncertain terms, "You take care of her. I'll find Superman and meet you at Metropolis General." Sam nodded. "I will." Clark stood and left the room. *How am I ever going to make it out of the restaurant and back at something approaching a normal pace? And how am I not going to act like Lois' concerned husband when I go back in?* He left the restaurant and found a deserted alley nearby. He changed and hurried back in. As he walked into the back room, as Superman, he could tell Lois was getting worse. He knelt down and carefully picked her up, cradling her in his arms like a newborn baby. He only nodded at Sam's admonition that he be careful with her - she was pregnant, after all. As he left the building, he took to the sky. "Lois? Honey? Are you feeling any better?" All she did was groan. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:41:06 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rowan Fuller Subject: I Need a Fan Fic Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Please could someone recommend me a fanfic? It is the weekend and I fancy a really long one full of intrigue, suspence, corruption and all the elements that make it L&C and one that is definately finished. Perhaps something on the lines of "Caped Fear" or even "On The Run". Or a time travel one. Thank you in advance. Rowan :) -- -- -- LaneKent@aol.com website homepage: http://members.aol.com/lanekent . ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:07:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: I Need a Fan Fic Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recommend ML Thompson's latest... "Cause and Effect." "I Will Always Love You" is another great one from her. And of course, she won a Kerth for "The Other Woman". They're not quite as long as On The Run or Caped Fear but then, what is? I also highly recommend "Hearts and Diamonds" by Shayne Terry ... Shayne won Best New Author this year, and it was well deserved. If you want to troll through the message board for sections, his "Fugue" is excellent, as is the sequel (currently in progress): Fusion. Rowan Fuller wrote: > > Hi > > Please could someone recommend me a fanfic? It is the weekend and I fancy a > really long one full of intrigue, suspence, corruption and all the elements > that make it L&C and one that is definately finished. Perhaps something on > the lines of "Caped Fear" or even "On The Run". Or a time travel one. > > Thank you in advance. > > Rowan :) > -- -- -- > LaneKent@aol.com > website homepage: http://members.aol.com/lanekent > > . -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam http://personal.rdu.bellsouth.net/~jernigan/ The difference between journalists and other people is that other people spend their lives running from violence, tragedy, and horror and we spend ours trying to get in on it. --P.J. O'Rourke ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:20:42 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kate Crane Subject: Re: I Need a Fan Fic Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oooh Rowan, such a question! Not knowing what you have already read, I would suggestion checking Genevieve's Kerth awards site, listing all the nominated stories from past years, and perhaps picking the best overall fic? http://users.erols.com/nightsky/kerth.html I second Pam's suggestion of ML Thompson and also highly recommend anything by Mobile Richard, particularly her Life in a Different World and its two sequels. Another old favorite of mine is Wendy Richards "It Happened One Super Night". And if you haven't ready Sandy McDermin's, "Life As A Blond" and it's two sequels, I strongly suggest writing to her and requesting it. (email me privately for her address if you need it). These three are good long stories full of A and B plots and just plain terrific writing. And then there is Margaret Brignell's stories....all terrific. Her Only You series should keep you well occupied. She has her own site too: http://www3.sympatico.ca/brignell/ I also adore Jeff Brogden's stories. as well as so many others..... Kate ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:18:02 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rowan Fuller Subject: Re: I Need a Fan Fic Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you everyone who answered my questions. Some of those I've read and those I haven't I've been looking for now now. <> Where can I find those authors. Are they just on the boards or are they in the archive or at the Kerth site? I'm going to these sites, however if they're anywhere else please could you let me know. > ,,I also adore Jeff Brogden's stories. > as well as so many others.....>> Now there is an author I haven't heard of for a while. Is he still about? Thanks again everyone. Rowan :) -- -- -- LaneKent@aol.com website homepage: http://members.aol.com/lanekent . ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:43:41 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Dates question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heidi wrote: << I got the impressions that Clark had probably told Perry the truth in the letter he never opened. What do you think? >> I don't think he would have. First of all, how could Clark be sure that the letter would be seen by only Perry's eyes? It would be too easy for someone else to intercept the letter (either accidentally or on purpose) and discover Clark's secret. Also, I don't think Clark was any closer (emotionally) to Perry than he was to Lois; he didn't tell Lois, so why would he tell Perry? I think the letter probably just gave Perry the same excuse that Lois had been given, in a more official manner. Christy attalanta@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 15:54:06 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wanda McCants Subject: Re: I Need a Fan Fic Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can find Jeff's Kerth award winning fic Lost and Found on the archive, and check out Near Wild Heaven by kaethel. Both are exceptionally good stories. "What happens to a dream deferred? / Does it dry up like a raisin in the sun?" ......Langston Hughes Wanda ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:07:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: I Need a Fan Fic Fix I would recommend Yvonne Connell's Fear of Discovery series, Rowan, for a terrific mix of A- and B-plots, but the series as a whole isn't finished. However, if it's a mix of A- and B- plots you're looking for, in a long, involved and exciting story, here's a few you could try (all on the Archive): Chris Carr's Learning Curves, Carol Malo's Connections or Jenni Debbage's Red Sky - in fact, all of Jenni's Kent Family series. If you haven't read The Huntress' Revenge, second in Jenni's series, you've missed out on a great story! Wendy ---------- Wendy Richards wendy@kingsmeadowcr.freeserve.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:09:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gerry Anklewicz Subject: Re: Review: Man of Steel Bars Comments: To: labrat@blueyonder.co.uk In-Reply-To: <01c701c0b9fa$ce4eb0c0$897f1f3e@land> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit labrat@blueyonder.co.uk writes: >As far as I always understood this scene 'We'll never eat that way' refers >to the fact that if Lois is putting the food back into the bag it will >never >get prepared, cooked or eaten. Clark is noting that she has to take it out >of the bag first to do all of those things and that putting the items >she's >just taken *out* of the bag back *in* somewhat defeats her intended >purpose >of making him a meal. He was just being cute. > >I can't remember what items were in the bag, but even so in the bag they >were pretty useless. > >LabRat :) Thanks, LabRat, now it makes sense. Boy, am I ever slow. But sometimes I think the writers didn't come up with great lines. Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:16:06 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Any other writing forums? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << PS This isn't too far OT, is it, Kathy? I don't want anyone mad at me or anything... >> If Kathy (or anyone else) thinks it is too off-topic, you might want to collect a list of interested writers before moving the discussion off-list, Bethy. I'm definitely interested in a non-L&C writing forum. I've considered joining such a group at a local bookstore, but I've heard some bad things about similar groups, so I haven't yet. On a related note, I'm currently reading the Stephen King book "On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft." I'm not a King fan (in fact, the only book of his I've ever read is "The Green Mile," hardly typical King), but I'm really enjoying the book. Besides talking about how he got his start in writing, King has touched on several general aspects related to writing. In reference to a recent thread, several times he discussed how stories often seem to write themselves, with the characters taking the author to a place he/she hadn't considered going. I definitely recommend the book to all writers, whether you're interested in King's type of writing or not. It would be interesting to discuss this book (or another similar one) on a general writers list... Christy attalanta@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:46:06 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: I Need a Fan Fic Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 03/31/2001 1:41:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, LaneKent@AOL.COM writes: << Please could someone recommend me a fanfic? >> Start with the Kerth winners and nominees from this year. There were TONS of great stories this past year, but those are a place to start. :) --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:48:40 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: I Need a Fan Fic Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 03/31/2001 4:08:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, Wendy@KINGSMEADOWCR.FREESERVE.CO.UK writes: << here's a few you could try (all on the Archive): Chris Carr's Learning Curves, Carol Malo's Connections or Jenni Debbage's Red Sky - in fact, all of Jenni's Kent Family series. If you haven't read The Huntress' Revenge, second in Jenni's series, you've missed out on a great story! >> and dont' forget Irene's Firestorm and sequels... --Laure (Irene's #1 fan) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:56:01 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rowan Fuller Subject: Re: I Need a Fan Fic Fix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you for all those recommendations Wendy, I'll try them out. As to Jenni's stories, I've already done that, I couldn't agree with you more. Red Sky and The Huntress Revenge were unbelieavable but so was The Master Race and Suffer The Little Chindren. However RS and THR have to be up there in my top 50 fanfics of all time. Thank's to everybody who has responed. Okay some I have already read, but you all have recommended some I haven't. Rowan :) -- -- -- LaneKent@aol.com website homepage: http://members.aol.com/lanekent . ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 16:36:04 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JaT Subject: WOT: Winamp Skin Request In-Reply-To: <3AC62B0B.655D614D@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was thinking about creating a WinAmp Skin based on the Lord Kal El Black and Blue suit. Does anyone know of any/have any good good sites with pictures? James ===== World's Wisdom (a bumper sticker): He who dies with the most toys wins. God's Wisdom (Luke 12:15b): Be careful and guard against all kinds of greed. Life is not measured by how much one owns. NCV WIP - 7 Days of Superman - Author's Cut http://www.geocities.com/mr_d8a/7dos.htm WIP for Elisabeth: Story of a Lifetime-TOC http://www.zoomway.com/boards/ubbhtml/Forum5/HTML/003563.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:50:06 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carol L Moncado Subject: The Case of the Disappearing Clark, 3/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lois was worried. Really worried. Clark had never checked in with Perry. Clark had never called her. Clark had never called his parents. Clark never just left without telling anyone. It had been almost thirty-six hours before Lois started to worry. After she finished her story, she had gone home and taken a bath and gone to bed, just like she had told Perry she was going to. She slept well into the afternoon and spent the rest of the day just resting and doing some things around her apartment. She tried to call Clark a couple of times, but didn't worry when she didn't get an answer. They were probably just missing each other. When Clark didn't show up at work the next morning, she still didn't worry. Perry had probably put him on a story. Perry was in a meeting all morning with the suits upstairs and Jimmy was out taking pictures of something or other so there was no one to confirm or deny her thoughts. It wasn't until Perry came down from the meeting about one in the afternoon that Lois started to get worried. "LOIS! CLARK! MY OFFICE NOW!" Perry stormed through the newsroom on the way to his office. Lois stood and started to head to the office. She stopped dead in her tracks when she realized what Perry had said. Perry thought Clark was here. "I said my office, Lois. Now!" Lois didn't move. Her mind was moving a mile a minute, but her hearing wasn't keeping up. "LOIS! NOW!" When Lois still didn't respond, Perry walked over to her. His voice belied the sweetness of his words. "Lois, darlin'. I know that work interferes with your real life, but I need to ask you to do something for me, if you don't mind." His voice changed. "MOVE!" Lois stared off into space as she replied, "Clark's not here." "What do you mean 'Clark's not here'?" "Just that, Chief." Lois finally turned to look at her mentor. "Clark isn't here. He's not at home, he's not here. I have no idea where he is. I thought you had sent him out on a story or something." "You're serious? Clark didn't come to work today?" Lois shook her head. "Well, have you tried to find him?" "I called his house, but there's no answer. There hasn't been." "Did you go by?" Lois shrugged. "Why would I? He's a big boy. He doesn't need me to check up on him." "Find him. And find out where Superman's been." "What are you talking about?" "I mean, no one's seen Superman in a couple of days. There was a big bank robbery a little while ago - I'm surprised you're not already on it - and he didn't show, even after several people yelled for him. Find him and find out what's going on." Lois nodded. "And no throwing yourself off a building for him to catch you either," Perry added sternly. "I'm not losing my star reporter because the superhero's sick or on vacation or something." Lois sighed. "Yes, sir." "But, first, try to find Clark and he can help you find Superman." Lois nodded and headed back to her desk. Superman was missing, too? That was odd. She reached for her rolodex and looked up the number of Jonathan and Martha Kent. Her conversation was kept short and light - she didn't want them to think that anything was wrong. She casually asked if Clark had told them about the big story they had landed yesterday. Martha told her that she hadn't talked to her son in almost three days and would Lois please have him call soon. Martha was his mother and she worried, after all. Lois promised to have Clark call soon and set the phone down. She had never known Clark to be so callous. Maybe he was hurt or something. She grabbed her jacket and her purse. She strode purposely towards Perry's office. She poked her head in. "I'm going to Clark's. His parents don't know where he is either and someone has to find him. If he's not there, I'm going back to the warehouse and see if I can find any clues." Perry looked up from the work he was doing. "Find him, Lois. We need him here." His gruff voice threatened to let his emotions through. He was worried now, too.