From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG0006B" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:20:12 -0500 Reply-To: bbmedos@booksanctuary.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "B. B. Medos (E-mail)" Subject: fan-fiction URL change Just wanted to let everyone know that I did some file rearranging on my site this last week to make some URLs shorter. So you'll find the UPDATED direct links to pertinent L&C stuff in the signature below, if you want to make sure your bookmarks are correct. Beverly :-) bbmedos@booksanctuary.com Partners-In-Crime http://www.booksanctuary.com/partnersincrime My L&C fan-fiction http://www.booksanctuary.com/partnersincrime/fan_fiction/index.htm ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:15:01 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: When Lightning Strikes Twice Part 10/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit S P O I L E R S P A C E In a message dated 6/8/00 12:50:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DUNNFOUR@AOL.COM writes: << his time Lex... and he still has the cage! I can't figure out how Lois and Clark will get out of trouble this time. >> Did I miss something? I didn't see where Lex still has the cage. But I agree, Lois and Clark are going to have their hands full with this one. << I've not seen any other comments on this one. Anyone else reading this? >> I have a feeling that most people are reading it over on the message boards. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 18:01:49 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: When Lightning Strikes Twice Part 10/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Anne and Laurie! Thanks for commenting. Laurie asked: > << I've not seen any other comments on this one. Anyone else reading this? >> And Ann replied: > I have a feeling that most people are reading it over on the message boards. I think you're right, Ann - I wasn't sure myself whether anyone was reading it here, and whether I should just post to the MBs. But since at least Laurie's reading it here, I'll carry on. > S > P > O > I > L > E > R > > S > P > A > C > E > > Did I miss something? I didn't see where Lex still has the cage. But I > agree, Lois and Clark are going to have their hands full with this one. And I'll just clarify this: Luthor doesn't have the cage, and I think I had him recognise that he needed to find Nigel St John if he was to have any chance of obtaining some Kryptonite. Thanks again, guys! Glad you're enjoying this! Wendy -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 13:22:38 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: alauters Subject: Re: When Lightning Strikes Twice Part 10/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, guys! Just to add my two cents -- I'm reading this too, as time permits. I'm also still working on Time Elapsed, for those of you wondering when another installment will be coming. Soon, I promise. Soon. RL has been a hassle lately. S P O I L E R S P A C E I'm really enjoying this whole concept, Wendy. The thought of Lex with superpowers is enough to send chills through me. I can't wait to see where you go with this. Keep it coming! Amy ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 19:07:17 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: When Lightning Strikes Twice Part 10/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/08/2000 1:26:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, w.m.richards@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK writes: << I wasn't sure myself whether anyone was reading it here, >> Please carry on. I'll read it after I get all the parts. I'm saving them up. :) --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:05:23 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: -= LuC =- Subject: L&C ICQ Skins Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Does anyone know where i can get an L&C ICQ skin for ICQ Plus? Ive been looking for one for ages. Thanks, -Luc. (PS- I've just read my first Nfic- my oh my :) ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 10:19:10 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: BB Medos Fanfiction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi BB, I recently just read what you had up on Timeless and enjoyed the story and have been waiting for you to continue it. Quick Time is the continuation, but AUGH, there is nothing there? Help! Please continue your story. Thanks. Melody ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:13:51 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: L&C ICQ Skins On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:05:23 EST, -= LuC =- wrote: >(PS- I've just read my first Nfic- my oh my :) LOL! Well, don't leave us guessing ... which one was it? Kathy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 16:24:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: L&C ICQ Skins LuC wrote: >>(PS- I've just read my first Nfic- my oh my :) and Kathy replied: >LOL! Well, don't leave us guessing ... which one was it? Now, now, Kathy: aren't you getting enough fanmail already? Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 18:10:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Demona (Angel Of The Night)" Subject: Re: L&C ICQ Skins In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed >Now, now, Kathy: aren't you getting enough fanmail already? >Wendy LOL, Oh, Wendy, you and I are sharing the same brain this afternoon! I was chuckling for about 15 minutes after I read that, myself. ;) By the way, Kathy, I really loved your new story too .. especially the part where Lois decapitates Clark and throws him off the Daily Planet building (right before half of Metropolis blows up). That was brilliant! ;) Demi (still wondering what this has to do with L&C ICQ skins? ;) ___________________________________________ Demi aka Demona nightangel@home.com http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/ http://www.destinyy.com/boards/ "Though lovers be lost... ...Love shall not... ...And death shall have no dominion." (Dylan Thomas) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:45:32 -0500 Reply-To: bbmedos@booksanctuary.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "B. B. Medos" Subject: Re: BB Medos Fanfiction << Hi BB, I recently just read what you had up on Timeless and enjoyed the story and have been waiting for you to continue it. Quiet Time is the continuation, but AUGH, there is nothing there? Help! Please continue your story. Thanks. Melody >> Ooops, sorry about that, Melody. I needed a blank page to work with, so I decided to use that one, but I am working on the Quiet Time section. It does exist. No, honestly. It does and I am. In fact, I've set a goal for myself to completely finish NEBS by the end of the year. Uh-huh. Well, it's a nice goal, anyway. In the meantime, I'm trying to set as much time as possible this summer aside for writing fan-fiction. The funny thing is, I thought I was going to start out concentrating on NEBS . . . when suddenly I found myself seeing this image of Superman holding a certain frilly negligee in his hand with this very dreamy nostalgic smile on his face and I, uh, got distracted by another story completely. And I can't get it out of my head! It's all I can think of at the moment. So, I figured I might as well go where the muse lead and am currently trying to do a real quickie run-through of a rough draft on a finale for the Lois' Revenge/Clark's Response duo . . . Beverly :-) bbmedos@booksanctuary.com Partners-In-Crime http://www.booksanctuary.com/partnersincrime My L&C Fan-Fiction http://www.booksanctuary.com/partnersincrime/fan_fiction/index.htm ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 18:11:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: When Lightning Strikes Twice: Part 11/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Title: When Lightning Strikes Twice Author: Wendy Richards Rating: PG-13 Part: 11 of? Comments: very welcome, public or private -------------------------------- *************WHAM WARNING IN THIS SECTION************* Lois watched as Luthor began to walk towards her; she recognised that there was now something a little menacing in his behaviour, a demeanour which had not been there before now. Clearly he was losing patience with her complete refusal to act intimidated or impressed by him, or to summon Superman to come to her aid. This was where, no doubt, things would start to get nasty. She *was* frightened, but was still determined not to show it. She knew only too well that to give Luthor any indication at all that she was intimidated by him would only help him. She was also now convinced that the Luthor she was confronted with was not at all like the urbane, civilised man she had known before - even if she hadn't known that other man at all well. Whatever process Gretchen Kelly had used to resurrect Luthor had, Lois suspected, had some effect on his mental state: he seemed to be showing some evidence of instability. That might explain his crazed attack on Kelly herself; it could also explain the seeming inconsistency in his behaviour now. The only way to deal with this situation was to keep him off balance, by *not* behaving in the way he expected. So she tilted her chin and gave him a challenging look as he approached, determined to stand her ground and not back away from him. She briefly considered her chances of landing a carefully-aimed kick, but decided that his Super-powered reflexes would have him out of harm=92s way before she=92d even got half-way to making cont= act. But he ignored her, and instead picked up the chair further away from her in one hand. "In case, my dear Lois, you were under the misapprehension that my abilities do not match your friend Superman's in every way, let me give you a demonstration," he drawled smoothly. In one brisk movement he snapped off one of the chair's legs, dropping the wrecked chair back to the floor. Then, as she watched, he snapped the broken leg in two, holding the pieces in one hand. Within seconds, ground fragments of wood were trickling through his fingers. "I haven't tried it yet, but I'm sure you can imagine the effect if that was a human leg I had been holding, my love," he added, opening his hand to allow the remainder of the fragments to fall to the floor, and then crossing to her side to trail his fingers along her cheek. She could feel the rasp of some splinters which still clung to his fingers.. Would he really hurt her like that? Lois remembered her earlier doubt about Luthor=92s intentions towards her - his former fiancee, after all - and her suspicions about his mental state were further confirmed. Now, she was very frightened; but she was still determined not to show it. Deliberately keeping her gaze fixed on him, Lois spoke scornfully. "Am I supposed to be frightened, Lex? You know, none of this is making a lot of sense to me. You're talking some of the time as if we were still together - and you're calling me your 'love' - and at the same time you're trying to intimidate me. If I didn't know any better, I'd say you really didn't know what you want here." But inwardly she admitted that she knew only too well what he wanted. He was hoping that she would give in and yell for Superman. But that was the one thing she was determined not to do, under any circumstances. A small voice inside her asked just how far she was prepared to let Luthor go; if he really was prepared to use any tactics at all, was she willing to be raped, or even killed, rather than bring Superman into this situation? But if she brought Superman into the situation, the chances were that *he* would end up dead; and she wasn't prepared to take that chance. She supposed that if she was actually asking herself whether she was prepared to die for the Super-hero, then the answer was yes. Superman was far more important to the world than a mere reporter. The world needed Superman; he'd saved the lives of countless thousands of people since his arrival a year and a half earlier. So she could not allow him to risk his life to save hers. All she could do was hope that Superman could find a way to stop Luthor before his death toll increased much more. She still had no idea what might have happened to Clark - while the thought of simply demanding of Luthor whether he had harmed Clark had crossed her mind, she'd quashed the impulse. No point putting ideas into his head which might not already have been there. Likewise, she had concerns for Perry White and Franklin Stern, and possibly Jimmy and Jack, though Luthor might well consider them to be so insignificant as to be beneath his notice. "Lois, my love, I always know what I want," Luthor was assuring her, his voice smooth; but his eyes were like shards of ice as he watched her. "You really should know not to underestimate me - " He broke off suddenly and spun around; Lois could see the dawning of a triumphant smile on his face, just as she heard a very familiar voice say coolly, "And you really should have learned by now not to underestimate me, Luthor." Her heart sank as Superman strode purposefully into the small room. **************** It had been easier than he'd expected to follow Lois's scent, Clark thought as he approached the house in which he now knew she was being held. He'd have to remember that in future, the next time she did something foolish like go off into danger on her own; knowing Lois, it wouldn=92t be too long before that happened again. He hovered over the house, deliberately restraining the impulse to rush straight in. Although every impulse he possessed was screaming at him to fly in and rescue her, that he didn't want her to be in Luthor's power for one second longer, his common sense told him that he needed to establish the precise lay of the land first. To begin with, he X-rayed the house to ensure that Lois really was there, and whether Luthor was there with her; he was hugely relieved to discover that they were in a small room on the ground floor and that Lois appeared to be unharmed apart from the cut to her hand, which didn=92t seem to be bleeding any more. He was threatening her, however, which made Clark more anxious. But since he was also well aware that this could be a trap, he waited. The biggest danger was Kryptonite, and it was perfectly possible that Luthor could have some. However, after floating above the house for a minute or so, he felt no ill-effects. Knowing it was still possible for Luthor to have a piece of the lethal meteorite in a lead box, he resolved to take the chance. Putting on a burst of Super-speed, he flew downwards and wrenched open the back door of the house, in time to stroll into the front room and respond to Luthor's drawled comment to Lois. "And you really should have learned by now not to underestimate me, Luthor."= As he spoke, Clark took in the scene in the room: Lois standing by a chair, doing her best to look determined - though she couldn't hide the quickened heartbeat which spoke to him of her fear. He also saw the brief but alarmed glance which she cast in his direction; he was unsure whether that represented concern for him or a recognition that he was bound to be angry with her. He deliberately turned his attention away from her once he'd confirmed his initial impression that she seemed to be unharmed - apart from one wrist, which she was now rubbing and which appeared to be painful. Lex Luthor stood close to her, wearing what seemed to Clark to be a ridiculous outfit: typical of the man to put on such a display of showmanship. But he ignored the cloak, other than to note that it was obviously the source of those black silk threads, and mask, fixing Luthor with a hard stare. That didn't seem to bother his old adversary; Luthor smiled in apparently genuine amusement. "Superman. So good of you to join us: Lois and I were wondering whether you would drop in." Clark ignored the words, but felt his blood boil as Luthor took a step closer to Lois. Deliberately, the older man took Lois's chin in his hand and lowered his head; he brushed a kiss across her lips. Clark could see in Lois's eyes the distaste she was desperately struggling to keep off her face, and he stepped forward. "Let her go, Luthor. This is between you and me." "Oh? You don't think that my fiancee and I might have some unfinished business?" Luthor enquired, turning to face Superman. "I'm not your fiancee, Lex. I told you that at my apartment," Lois pointed out, her tone slightly bored. She was doing her best to hide any fear that she might have been feeling, Clark recognised - and probably very successfully too, since Luthor's response to her intervention was to look irritated. But Clark had no intention of risking the possibility that Luthor might lose patience with Lois; he stepped forward, interposing his body between the other two, and with one hand gripping Lois's arm and gently but insistently pushing her back. She retreated, though he could tell that it was with less than good grace. He wished that, just for once, she would recognise her own limitations. "It seems that Ms Lane doesn't consider herself to have any involvement with you, Luthor," Clark said pointedly, crossing his arms in front of his chest in what he knew to be his trademark Super-hero-expecting-to-be-taken- seriously pose. "Oh, very gallant!" Luthor observed sarcastically. "Not that it matters - Lois and I will resolve our outstanding business in the very near future, without any interference from you, Superman!" With that, Luthor lunged towards Clark. But he had seen the movement, and he positioned himself to block the older man's attack. It took a lot of strength, since Luthor had not only strength equivalent to Clark's own, but momentum too. They wrestled for a few moments, Luthor making several attempts to grab Clark's jugular, but he managed to evade his opponent's grasp. "Let's see how brave you are when you're up against someone who matches your strength, Superman!" Luthor taunted, struggling hard to try to overpower Clark. With a crash, one of the chairs went flying, and out of the corner of his eye Clark could see Lois moving herself swiftly out of the way of the struggling opponents. Without taking his attention off Luthor for so much as a split second, he yelled at her, "Get out of here! Go, now!" But, to his annoyance and anger, she stayed put. He forced himself to try to ignore her, but he was seething inside; didn't she know that by remaining she was giving him something else to worry about? He could cope with fighting Luthor: the other man's strength might be equal to his own, but there were aspects of his Super-powers Luthor clearly hadn't become accustomed to yet. Clark was confident that he would be able to overpower the other man fairly quickly. But with Lois still in the room, his attention was necessarily distracted; he had to ensure that she wasn't hurt, instead of concentrating solely on getting the better of Luthor. And Luthor was prepared to fight dirty. He caught a glint of red in the other man's eyes, and a moment later the light-fitting came down from the ceiling towards his head. Clark simply glanced upwards and used his Super- breath to direct it to the other side of the room. Luthor took advantage of the distraction to make another grab for Clark's jugular, but Clark recovered in time and wrenched Luthor's arm away. "Lois, *go*!" he yelled again, and refocused himself on the fight. Luthor was directing a blast of freezing breath in his direction; he felt it coming, and again used his Super-breath to direct it harmlessly away. Then he saw that glint of red again, and this time was just in time to meet Luthor's blast of heat vision with one of his own; they struggled against each other for several seconds until Luthor was forced to break the contact. A patch of the carpet caught fire; Clark, having disengaged his heat vision as soon as Luthor had conceded defeat, stepped forward and ground out the flame with one booted foot. Breathing heavily and with fury in his gaze, Luthor spat at him, "I said you were a coward. You haven't the guts to kill me, have you, alien?" Clark acknowledged, ignoring the =91alien=92 barb as he poised himself for Luthor'= s next attack while he tried to work out the best way of overpowering his opponent. Was he imagining it, or was Luthor finding it difficult to sustain this level of combat? "That's *not* the way I work!" he retorted firmly, remembering as he did so the previous occasion on which he'd uttered those words; his opponent then had been as determined, and maybe as deranged, as Lex Luthor now appeared to be. "More fool you!" Luthor scorned, his expression contemptuous. Clark was conscious that the older man was becoming more and more frustrated at his inability to seize the upper hand in their struggle, and wondered whether Luthor had simply assumed that his willingness to kill meant that he should automatically be the victor. It occurred to him to consider whether Luthor had not realised that Superman had the advantage of years of practice with using his Super-powers. The next attack came in the form of a left hook; Clark feinted and Luthor's fist swung through empty air. Clark followed through by grabbing his arm and throwing Luthor onto the ground; he'd won, he realised, moving to pin the man down, ignoring Luthor=92s howl of frustrated anger as he did so. Thi= s was it; if he could hold onto Luthor and secure him somehow, then he could work out how to deal with the situation from here on. Clearly just bringing him in to Henderson's precinct wouldn't work: no prison could keep Luthor in his current state of enhanced abilities. But there had to be a way of dealing with him, some means of reversing the power transfer. Perhaps if he flew Luthor back to the lab with the Tesla coils, he could manage it - The renewed glint of red in Luthor's eyes alerted him to danger; too late, he heard Lois scream in agony. As he swung to face her, she fell backwards to the floor, to lie there unmoving. ***************** ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:24:22 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: BB Medos Fanfiction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/9/00 10:47:12 PM !!!First Boot!!!, bbmedos@BOOKSANCTUARY.COM writes: << So, I figured I might as well go where the muse lead and am currently trying to do a real quickie run-through of a rough draft on a finale for the Lois' Revenge/Clark's Response duo . . . Beverly :-) bbmedos@booksanctuary.com >> My reply to this seems to want to go to Beverly. Which is fine, but I love these two stories I also want the list to know how excited I am that there may finally be a finale for the duo... Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 19:24:55 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kate Crane Subject: Re: BB Medos Fanfiction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << So, I figured I might as well go where the muse lead and am currently trying to do a real quickie run-through of a rough draft on a finale for the Lois' Revenge/Clark's Response duo . . . >> OOOoooohhhh that sounds wonderful! Can't wait. More NEBS too, something to look forward to this long summer . . . . kids are already driving me crazy. Kate ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 20:36:14 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: L&C ICQ Skins On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 18:10:22 -0400, Demona (Angel Of The Night) < nightangel@HOME.COM> wrote: >>Now, now, Kathy: aren't you getting enough fanmail already? >>Wendy > > >LOL, Oh, Wendy, you and I are sharing the same brain this afternoon! I was >chuckling for about 15 minutes after I read that, myself. ;) LOL you guys! To be honest, I *wasn't* thinking about WFBL when I asked. Really ... why are you looking at me like that?? Sheesh, the mistrust around here. ;) >By the way, Kathy, I really loved your new story too .. especially the part >where Lois decapitates Clark and throws him off the Daily Planet building >(right before half of Metropolis blows up). That was brilliant! ;) /me thwaps Demi. Now that was supposed to be a secret! Now everyone knows that Tank and I are co-writing a story. (ducking and running from Tank with a big grin.) > >Demi (still wondering what this has to do with L&C ICQ skins? ;) Nothing, but that's nothing new around here. Speaking of new around here ... how long have you been resubscribed?? Welcome back. Kathy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 22:31:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Demona (Angel Of The Night)" Subject: L&C ICQ Skins (part deux) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 08:36 PM 09/06/00 -0500, you wrote: >Nothing, but that's nothing new around here. Speaking of new around here ... >how long have you been resubscribed?? Welcome back. >Kathy Thanks, but I never left, actually. I was set to nomail for several months, but then I realized that it wasn't possible for my life to get any crazier than it already was, regardless of how much extra email I had! Sooo... I took the lid off. Demi (I'm getting good at this 'lurking' thing, aren't I? ;) ___________________________________________ Demi aka Demona nightangel@home.com http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/ http://www.destinyy.com/boards/ "Though lovers be lost... ...Love shall not... ...And death shall have no dominion." (Dylan Thomas) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:40:39 +0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ma. Carmela L Abaygar" Subject: hi from a newbie Content-Type: text/plain Hi! I'm kinda new here and just started subscription a couple of days ago. I've been an irregular viewer of the show a few years back and I must say it was only during the Holy Week season that I got to re-discover it again. And my, did I devour everything to read (and everything written) about it! All fictions are very well written, and I don't seem to get enough... I only wish they'd show reruns from where I live on the planet. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 23:11:14 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Samantha Kegan Subject: When Lightning & OT: Congrats Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Ohhhhhhhhh so not cool. I understand the need and joy of cliffhangers, but Wendy, why did you leave us hangin' like that? (This said with much distraughtness in my voice). And for other business. . . I would like to congradulate one of our lurkers, Leo, for graduating from high school last Wednesday. She will be attending Purdue University in West Lafayette in the fall, where she will be majoring in pharmacy. I hope I didn't embarrass her too much. Sami ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:02:55 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: -= LuC =- Subject: Re: hi from a newbie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi there and welcome :) Where abouts in the world might that be? :) Dont worry- here in australia we got a bit of an unfair run- they didnt show thoe whole 4th season! Its hard to deal with the amount of stuff in fanfiction and stuff and i've only just started being accustomed to it myself!:) Catcha later, -Luc. >From: "Ma. Carmela L Abaygar" >Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" > >To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU >Subject: hi from a newbie >Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:40:39 +0800 > >Hi! I'm kinda new here and just started subscription a couple of days ago. > I've been an irregular viewer of the show a few years back and I must say >it was only during the Holy Week season that I got to re-discover it again. > And my, did I devour everything to read (and everything written) about >it! All fictions are very well written, and I don't seem to get enough... >I only wish they'd show reruns from where I live on the planet. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:11:59 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: -= LuC =- Subject: Kathy's nfic- cwc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Kathy- heheheheh funny you should mention which one :) Camping with Clark- ring a bell? :) It was excellent :) .. but my.. until i read that i can't say i thought about l&c in that context..hmmmm :) -Luc. >From: Kathy Brown >Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" > >To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU >Subject: Re: L&C ICQ Skins >Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 13:13:51 -0500 > >On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 17:05:23 EST, -= LuC =- wrote: > > >(PS- I've just read my first Nfic- my oh my :) > >LOL! Well, don't leave us guessing ... which one was it? > >Kathy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 03:08:49 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/10/00 0:12:19 AM EST, hyperionx@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << Kathy- heheheheh funny you should mention which one :) Camping with Clark- ring a bell? :) It was excellent :) .. but my.. until i read that i can't say i thought about l&c in that context..hmmmm :) -Luc. >> Camping with Clark! Oooh that was my very first exposure to nfic about a year ago and all i can say is WOW! I loved that story and it's one I don't mind reading from time to time.. It was actually one of the many stories that inspired me to start writing Lnc nfic/fanfic of my own! =) Alexis ;-.) "I gotta go. Thanks for sewing my jacket, Mom. That electrical storm over Cleveland was brutal..." (Clark) "Maybe you should take another route. See you next week." (Martha) {Lnc, Pilot} ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 20:05:12 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: -= LuC =- Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >Camping with Clark! Oooh that was my very first exposure to nfic >about a >year ago and all i can say is WOW! I loved that story and it's one I >don't >mind reading from time to time.. It was actually one of the many >stories that inspired me to start writing Lnc nfic/fanfic of my own! =) >Alexis ;-.) hehehe true :) I've started writing a few myself. :) actually the first L&C fanfic i wrote for a senior highschool english assignment years back and my teacher loved it to death! (yes can you believe it? i used L&C to get marks... sad?:) I was just actually wondering I'm new to actually having others read my fanfic- do i just post it at the lncfanfic sight? -LuC. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 05:20:41 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: L&C ICQ Skins In-Reply-To: <4.3.1.2.20000609180516.00caf7e0@mail> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:10 PM 06/09/2000 -0400, Demi wrote: >By the way, Kathy, I really loved your new story too .. especially the part >where Lois decapitates Clark and throws him off the Daily Planet building >(right before half of Metropolis blows up). That was brilliant! ;) PMS - the not-so-silent killer... Debby Debby@swcp.com yeah, scripts write for info ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:17:35 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: L&C ICQ Skins MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/10/00 7:20:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Debby@SWCP.COM writes: << By the way, Kathy, I really loved your new story too .. especially the part >where Lois decapitates Clark and throws him off the Daily Planet building >(right before half of Metropolis blows up). That was brilliant! ;) PMS - the not-so-silent killer... >> LOL! And Lois always seemed to have more than her share. (I must admit, I never thought Kathy would have been seduced into death and destruction by Tank, but it just goes to show you......) Ann ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:45:04 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: When Lightning Strikes Twice Part 10/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Wendy. I'm reading it here. The boards are harder to download from without getting a bunch of non-text stuff in them. And the text is what I'm interested. S p o i l e r s p a c e As to why I haven't yet commented. I'm still in shock. This story is chilling, but beautifully written and that's all I'm going to say for now. Keep it up and darn it hurry it up. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 12:03:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: When Lightning Strikes Twice Part 10/? On Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:45:04 EDT, Charlotte Fisler wrote: >Thanks Wendy. No, thank *you,* Charlotte! :) >S >p >o >i >l >e >r > >s >p >a >c >e > >As to why I haven't yet commented. I'm still in shock. This story is >chilling, but beautifully written and that's all I'm going to say for now. >Keep it up and darn it hurry it up. Wow! And thank you again! There's rather a lot more to come, I have to say, since I've posted just over half of what's written so far and I know I'm only at most two-thirds done. I will promise not to leave you all on a cliffhanger for as long as Erin left Lois and Clark hiding, badly injured, in their cave ;) - but this is why I'm posting at two to three-day intervals. It gives me at least some chance of keeping ahead of you kind readers! (And, since my two invaluable beta-readers are both on holiday right now, it's just as well I'm posting slowly) Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:26:25 CDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jessi Mounts Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed LuC said: >actually the first L&C fanfic i wrote for a senior highschool english >assignment years back and my teacher loved it to death! (yes can you >believe >it? i used L&C to get marks... sad?:) > Not at LuC. At least, I hope not. I actually did the same thing myself...twice. Of course, neither one was a fanfic. One, actually, was our essay for the year. Yup, I wrote an essay L&C and FoLCs. Well, she said write what you know, so... Jessi jessi914@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:37:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: When Lightning & OT: Congrats On Fri, 9 Jun 2000 23:11:14 EST, Samantha Kegan wrote: >And for other business. . . I would like to congradulate one of our lurkers, >Leo, for graduating from high school last Wednesday. She will be attending >Purdue University in West Lafayette in the fall, where she will be majoring >in pharmacy. I hope I didn't embarrass her too much. Congrats to Leo! I'd say "Go Boilermakers", but as an alumus from one of those *other* Big Ten schools, I'd probably lose my #1 fan status. But good luck and remember -- fanfic makes for good study breaks! :) Kathy (Hail to the victors valiant ...) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 15:46:21 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc Thanks for the plug for "Camping with Clark", Luc. In response to your "I never thought of L&C that way before", I was all set to respond "what show were you watching?!" But then I remembered you said you never saw much of the 4th season. Trust me, the latter half of the fourth season has a lot more "steam" than the first half. (Soul Mates and Brutal Youth notwithstanding.) As for getting others to read your fanfic, you have a couple of different options. First, you could try posting it here if you are interested in feedback via this listserv. Make sure the file is "text only" (no fancy formatting or fonts) and cut and paste into an email message. Just keep the size of the posts to around 25K and you should be fine. If your story is longer than 25K, break it up into multiple parts. Alternatively, you can just submit it to the fanfic Archive at: stories@lcfanfic.com I'll assign it to an editor to help you with any typos (though we do ask that any submission be as good as you can get it already -- we don't ghostwrite for authors, just try to help them clean up any remaining errors) and then we can get it up on the main Archive. If you have any other questions, please ask. That's why we're here. :) Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive: kathybrown91@home.com OR kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 19:39:35 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm back. It's been awhile, since Jan., so I had to catch up a bit. ;) If I read all the archive posts, I'd never make it back. So, I'm just jumping in here. Camping With Clark is one of my all time favorites too. :) ______________________________________________ FREE Personalized Email at Mail.com Sign up at http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:50:33 +0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ma. Carmela L Abaygar" Subject: Re: hi from a newbie Content-Type: text/plain Hey there Jessi... I guess it sounded quite flashy when I said I devoured "everything", when I actually just meant "almost everything." Some Nfics I haven't gotten to enjoy yet, but I'm getting around to it. :) I guess you could say I'm kinda prudish about these things. But my, aren't these nfics teaching me a lot! I actually read Sheila Harper's "Happy Birthday" with my best friend... and she too saw Lois and Clark in a totally whole new light! Oh I never thought there would be tapes of LnC anywhere here near Manila but I sure wish there were... Just a week or so ago I actually got hold of a copy of the pilot from Tower Records. Hey, do you think they did other episodes in those too? Sounds like wishing for a miracle, huh? But with Lois and Clark, nothing is ever short of a miracle. Mela Jessi Mounts wrote: > >Welcome to the list. So you've read *everything* on the archive? I'm >impressed. I didn't know that was even humanly possible. ;-) > >What part of the planet do you live on? You never know, maybe you could >find someone nearby with the show taped. A couple weeks ago someone made a >tape request, and discovered a FoLC (with tapes, of course!) lived literally >right down the street. > >Jessi > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:57:58 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: -= LuC =- Subject: Re: hi from a newbie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi Mela, To tell you the truth, i recently purchased L&C video on tape just like the videos that were made of the pilot! There are about 13 videos over all with all the first season in them and the first half of the second season! The web address is: www.blackstar.co.uk and do a search for "The New Adventures of Superman" NOT Lois & Clark (this is because it is an english site and the show over there was called the new adventures of superman. I was thrilled to discover them since i need to complete my set of L&C videos. Have fun, -Luc. >From: "Ma. Carmela L Abaygar" >Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" > >To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU >Subject: Re: hi from a newbie >Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:50:33 +0800 > >Hey there Jessi... I guess it sounded quite flashy when I said I devoured >"everything", when I actually just meant "almost everything." Some Nfics I >haven't gotten to enjoy yet, but I'm getting around to it. :) I guess you >could say I'm kinda prudish about these things. But my, aren't these nfics >teaching me a lot! I actually read Sheila Harper's "Happy Birthday" with my >best friend... and she too saw Lois and Clark in a totally whole new >light! > >Oh I never thought there would be tapes of LnC anywhere here near Manila >but I sure wish there were... Just a week or so ago I actually got hold of >a copy of the pilot from Tower Records. Hey, do you think they did other >episodes in those too? Sounds like wishing for a miracle, huh? But with >Lois and Clark, nothing is ever short of a miracle. > >Mela > >Jessi Mounts wrote: > > > > >Welcome to the list. So you've read *everything* on the archive? I'm > >impressed. I didn't know that was even humanly possible. ;-) > > > >What part of the planet do you live on? You never know, maybe you could > >find someone nearby with the show taped. A couple weeks ago someone made >a > >tape request, and discovered a FoLC (with tapes, of course!) lived >literally > >right down the street. > > > >Jessi > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:01:30 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: -= LuC =- Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >I'll assign it to an editor to help you with any typos (though we do ask >that >any submission be as good as you can get it already -- we don't ghostwrite >for authors, just try to help them clean up any remaining errors) and then >we >can get it up on the main Archive. > >If you have any other questions, please ask. That's why we're here. :) > >Kathy Thanks Kathy! :) I'll do that! Luckily I am majoring in English at uni so i hope that that will give me the skills to edit my stories! :) (i hope so anyway or i'm wasting my time at uni hehehe:) Thanks again! -Luc. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 10:03:26 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: -= LuC =- Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >I'm back. It's been awhile, since Jan., so I had to catch up a bit. ;) If >I read all the archive posts, I'd never make it back. So, I'm just jumping >in here. > >Camping With Clark is one of my all time favorites too. :) Hehhehehe i was just telling Kathy that it is the first nfic i have read and i loved it! I also told her that i'd never thought of L&C in that kind of way! whoa! :) hehehehe -Luc. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 21:11:21 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/10/00 4:27:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jessi914@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << One, actually, was our essay for the year. Yup, I wrote an essay L&C and FoLCs. Well, she said write what you know, so... >> so, Jessi, did you get an A? Also, where is the next installment of your new story? Ann ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:28:58 CDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jessi Mounts Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed ><< One, actually, > was our essay for the year. Yup, I wrote an essay L&C and FoLCs. Well, >she > said write what you know, so... >> > >so, Jessi, did you get an A? > I did. She wrote on my paper "Lois Lane would be proud." >Also, where is the next installment of your new story? > Hey, I just got back from California a little over twenty-four ago, and I'm heading our for another week (not in California this time, darn it ;-) in a little over thirty-six hours. I think I'm doing good to keep Hotmail from deleting all my mail due to overflowing. Jessi jessi914@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 04:13:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Fan Fic Recommendation - Universal Union 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I know I'm getting back to this pretty late, but I've been away on a few days break with my husband. >>Jenni, awesome story. If there is a KNK category for K2K1 then Elisabeth and I are both going to nominate it for that category. If not we will nominate it for Elseworld! This is a must read.<< Thank you for your very kind comments. I'm sure though that by the time Kerths 2001 come around there will be far more deserving stories. Howeve= r, it was very satisfying to know that you think my story is worth a nomination. >>Is there a UU3 in the works? Or do we need to beg?<< There will be a UU3, but it might be sometime yet as I'm still trying to finish the nextgen story in my 'Family Kent' series, 'Red Sky'. This story seems to have developed a life of its own and I'm just following where the muse takes me. But I promise to get down to UU3 just as soon as I finish Red Sky. And I= do have all the plot lines worked out for Book 3, only once I start to write my stories and characters have a way of taking me over and I just p= ut down on paper(electronic paper that is) whatever they tell me too. Thanks, James and Elisabeth for the recommendation; the feedback on UU2 has been pretty sparse since it went up on the archive and I was beginnin= g to think that no one was reading it. Yours Jenni Debbage ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 08:00:54 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/10/00 11:29:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jessi914@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << Hey, I just got back from California a little over twenty-four ago, and I'm heading our for another week (not in California this time, darn it ;-) in a little over thirty-six hours. I think I'm doing good to keep Hotmail from deleting all my mail due to overflowing. >> All right, just take a notebook and a pencil and write while you're riding in the car or plane. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:40:16 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gerry Anklewicz Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc In-Reply-To: <20000611000130.12327.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU writes: > > >Thanks Kathy! :) I'll do that! >Luckily I am majoring in English at uni so i hope that that will give me >the >skills to edit my stories! :) (i hope so anyway or i'm wasting my time at >uni hehehe:) >Thanks again! >-Luc. I majored in English and I've been teaching English in high school for longer than you've been around (probably). I still find that other people can find little mistakes that I missed in my editing (and I go over my writing constantly). I've even found problems that both the editors and I didn't notice. So don't feel defensive about your writing or your university education. We all make mistakes. After all, we're all human. Gerry Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:05:10 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How right you are, Gerry. I've been around 10 or 15 years longer than you, correcting writing as an English teacher and also in the private sector. Would you believe that there actually are businesses and bosses who want their written materials to be grammatically correct when they send them out? Every time my ego gets in the way and I think I can edit my own stuff, I end up making a public fool of myself. So the lesson for today is: be as accurate as you can be (and see), then get a little help from your friends, who abound on this List. Jude ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerry Anklewicz To: Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 10:40 AM Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc > LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU writes: > > > > > >Thanks Kathy! :) I'll do that! > >Luckily I am majoring in English at uni so i hope that that will give me > >the > >skills to edit my stories! :) (i hope so anyway or i'm wasting my time at > >uni hehehe:) > >Thanks again! > >-Luc. > > I majored in English and I've been teaching English in high school for > longer than you've been around (probably). I still find that other people > can find little mistakes that I missed in my editing (and I go over my > writing constantly). I've even found problems that both the editors and I > didn't notice. So don't feel defensive about your writing or your > university education. We all make mistakes. After all, we're all human. > > Gerry > > Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:13:38 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: When Lightning Strikes Twice: Part 12/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Why had Superman come? How had he managed to find her? Why couldn't he have just left her to get out of this situation on her own? Lois could barely focus her thoughts on anything but the grim realisation that the situation which she had tried so hard to prevent had come about. Luthor had got what he wanted: Superman was here. Did he have Kryptonite? He didn=92t seem to be making any attempt to produce= it; instead, he seemed to intend to rely on his physical strength. And maybe he thought that would be enough; after all, she reasoned with a grimace, Superman would not kill. Luthor, on the other hand, would have no compunction. He wanted Superman dead, there was no doubt about that. With a growing sense of helplessness, she watched them struggle, although some of their movements were reduced to a blur: as far as she could tell, Luthor was trying to grab Superman's throat, and she knew that if he succeeded he would choke him to death, or even break his neck. Wild thoughts went through her mind of grabbing hold of some weapon and trying to sneak up behind Lex and hit him with it; but common sense reasserted itself and reminded her that it would have absolutely no effect on him whatsoever. Unless it simply acted as a means of distracting him, so that Superman would be able to overpower him? Superman yelled at her to leave, to make her escape while he had Luthor distracted, but even though she knew he was right she couldn=92t bring herself to abandon him. Just what help she could possibly be to him in this situation she had absolutely no idea; she just knew she couldn=92t leave. Sh= e jumped as the light-fitting suddenly crashed to the floor; Superman must have done something to alter its trajectory as it fell, since it had been hanging above him, but was now in pieces several feet away. He ordered her to leave again, but this time, even had she been willing to go, she was incapable of moving; her limbs just wouldn=92t obey any commands= . She stood, rooted to the spot, her heart in her mouth as she watched the two men wrestle. A different struggle seemed to be going on now: she watched in puzzlement as they seemed to stare fixedly into each other's eyes. But when Luthor looked sharply away, and then part of the carpet caught fire before being stamped on by Superman, she realised what had been happening: they had been competing with heat vision, just as she'd seen Superman fighting with his clone a year earlier. And of course Superman hadn=92t taken the opportunity to injure or incapacitate Luthor when he'd had the chance: his ethics simply wouldn=92t let him do that. For the first time since she=92d known the Super-hero, Lois= found herself wishing that he could ignore his principles and just do whatever was needed to overcome the most dangerous villain either of them had ever encountered. Superman could kill Luthor, or severely incapacitate him - given that Luthor was still getting used to the Super-powers, she had no doubt of the Super-hero=92s ability to win in a fair fight. But this woul= d not be a fair fight, because one participant recognised no limits, while the other was deliberately restraining himself. She was getting the distinct impression that Luthor was getting increasingly frustrated at his inability to get the better of Superman during the struggle. That surprised her, in a way: while she well knew that Luthor hated to be bested at anything, she found it incredible that he should think he could beat Superman in a Super-powered fight after only being in possession of equivalent powers for twenty-four hours. Was it some sort of incredible arrogance which made him think that he could win? There was an angry exchange, during which Superman reiterated firmly his refusal to kill; almost as if Luthor had been using this dialogue as a distraction, he suddenly launched his fist at his opponent. Lois caught her breath, but Superman was ready for the attack and suddenly Luthor was on the ground. It was all over, and Superman had won! She was just about to exclaim in relief when suddenly she felt a searing pain; it was sheer, unbearable agony. Crying out, she crumpled backwards in a heap, simply unable to bear the effort of standing; and everything went black. *************** With an involuntary howl of denial, Clark threw Luthor away from him and ran to where Lois lay crumpled and lifeless on the floor. He was vaguely conscious of a rush of wind behind him, and realised that Luthor had taken the chance to escape. So that was all it had been, Clark recognised in sheer disbelief: Luthor had killed Lois simply so that he could get away. He had realised that he wasn=92t going to be able to get the better of Superman, despite his willingness to go further in combat than Clark would -= so he=92d attacked the woman who had once been his fiancee. He had treated Lois as disposable, a means to an end. And in doing so, he had wrenched out Clark=92s heart and torn it into tiny pieces. Lois was so still, so quiet, her face so pale... she had been hit, he reminded himself, with a powerful blast of heat vision, and he remembered only too well the damage which that same heat vision, used by Lex Luthor, had caused to Gretchen Kelly. Lois had cried out in pain, so it couldn=92t have been just a low-level intensity, intended to distract rather than to maim or kill - but then, Clark remembered only too well how long it had taken him to learn to moderate his use of that particular power. He could now produce a blast of almost any strength he wanted, but that was a skill honed through years of experience. Luthor had had less than a day. He crouched beside Lois, almost afraid to touch her. She looked so beautiful, so peaceful in death; he almost couldn=92t bear to reach out and touch her. Instead, he stared down at her, tears beginning to stream from his eyes as the enormity of what he had lost began to sank in. Lois, the woman he=92d loved from the instant he=92d set eyes on her, was gone, dead; = all the hopes he=92d harboured for a possible future with her destroyed in an instant. A torrent of regrets flooded through him: why hadn=92t he told her he loved her, why had he never told her the truth about him and Superman, how could he have allowed her to make her way back to Metropolis after he=92= d thought her safely hidden in Smallville.... He had thought she was safe. She should have been safe! And she would have been... only she=92d been worried about Clark. About *him.* And if she=92d known that Clark was in reality Superman, she would have had no need to worry. She would have stayed put, where he=92d left her. So it was all his fault that she was dead, because he hadn=92t told her the truth. And because he=92d allowed Luthor to get his powers in the first place. And because he hadn=92t simply grabbed Lois and flown her away as soo= n as he=92d got here, instead of assuming that she=92d be okay and he could concentrate on overpowering Luthor. And, most of all, because he hadn=92t killed the man while he=92d had the chance. He could have, in that instant when Luthor retreated from the heat vision battle. Had Clark pursued the advantage he=92d had then, he could have killed his opponent - his enemy. Instead, he=92d allowed his scruples to prevent him - - and had allowed Luthor to re-enter the battle. And as a result, Lois was dead. That was exactly what his parents would say, Clar= k knew; they would tell him that it was Lex Luthor=92s fault alone. Perhaps so= ; but Clark knew that he would never be able to forgive himself for allowing it to happen. And now, he would hunt Luthor down; if it took him his own life, he would pursue Lois=92s murderer and kill him. His ethics weren=92t worth anything if they=92d prevented him saving the life of the woman he loved. Through eyes blurry with tears he gazed at Lois; slowly, he lowered his head to claim one last kiss of farewell. Her lips were still warm, and the sensation broke his heart once more... ...until he realised that he could feel the exhalation of air against his face. She was breathing! Suddenly he was galvanised into action, unable to believe that he hadn=92t thought to check before this to see whether she was actually dead; he=92d just assumed that she must be. She was certainly breathing, and breathing pretty much normally, too. His gaze switched to the charred fragments of blouse on her left arm; that had to be where she=92d been burned. The skin was red and angry, but thankfully not as bad as he=92d expected; nothing lik= e as viciously burnt as Gretchen Kelly had been. Luthor must have managed to exert some control over the use of his heat vision. Had Luthor gone deliberately for Lois=92s arm, rather than somewhere potentially more lethal? Had the man purposefully not killed her, or had he been reckless as to whether she died or not? Clark found he didn=92t really care; one way or another, Lex Luthor would pay for what he had done. He would see to that. Swiftly he blew on the injured area with his Super-breath, cooling it as much as he dared, before checking to see what other injuries she had. He quickly realised that she must have hit her head against the upturned chair as she fell; that, combined with the injury to her arm, had to have been the cause of her unconsciousness. He needed to get her to a hospital, but first he X-rayed her head and her arm to check the extent of her injuries. >From what he could tell, her head injury was superficial; there was a tiny amount of swelling but no bleeding. The burn was more serious, but he hoped that his action in freezing it would have helped minimise the damage - though he was cursing himself for having been so slow to realise that she wasn=92t dead. He could have frozen the burn a minute or two sooner, which could have made a difference in terms of the likely scarring and tissue damage. Scooping Lois gently up into his arms, he exited the house and headed for the nearest hospital. ************** That had been a close call, Lex Luthor considered as he flew carefully up towards the Lexor Hotel, his chosen place of temporary refuge. He=92d imagined that it would be so easy to defeat and kill that tedious tights- clad do-gooder given that Superman=92s =91morals=92 prevented him from killi= ng, but he=92d clearly over-estimated his own ability to overcome the Super-hero= . He had found himself growing gradually weaker, and the final straw had been when the annoying *insect* had managed to overpower him. Although he=92d known Superman wouldn=92t kill him, the alternatives were too horrible to contemplate. And so he=92d been forced to use Lois as his escape-route. He did hope he hadn=92t killed her; she was very beautiful, after all, and he still had som= e unfinished business with her. But it had been a necessary evil, and she had been expendable in that situation, after all. And it was a very certain means of ensuring that Superman would focus his attention elsewhere than on Lex Luthor. And, of course, the thought that the alien was suffering as a result gave him a feeling of satisfaction; and, no doubt, he would find out sooner or later whether Lois was alive. And if, by good fortune, she was, he would have another opportunity to sample what she had denied him throughout the period of their engagement. It occurred to him that, instead of making his escape, he could have taken advantage of the Super-hero=92s distraction to aim a bolt of heat vision at his back; but it was probably better this way. For one thing, he couldn=92t be sure that one bolt would do it - he had no way of knowing, yet, exactly how far invulnerability went. After all, he=92d seen Superman go into raging= infernos and come out unscathed. For another, he knew how fast his own reflexes were now; how much faster were the Caped Cruiser=92s, when he=92d h= ad, presumably, all his life to get used to his abilities? So he'd decided, in the best spirit of all good campaigns, that a strategic retreat was in order. And there were times, also in campaigns waged by the best of generals, that a sacrifice had to be made for the good of those whose survival was more important. Now, he had to decide what his next move should be. Clearly killing that annoying Super-bug was not going to be as straightforward as he had expected; perhaps simple hand-to-hand combat, in the best traditions of duels, was not going to suffice. He needed Kryptonite; and for that, he needed to find Nigel. So that would have to be the priority; Superman could wait, for now. The best campaigns were those which were carefully planned, not those which were rushed into without adequate preparation; SuperLex had more sense than to act on impulse without very good cause. There was one other thing Luthor was curious about: how had the irritating blue-fly managed to convince the police that Gretchen Kelly=92s death had nothing to do with him? The set-up had been pretty ingenious - masterful, in fact, Lex considered. The =91S=92 insignia, and the fact that it had been= done with heat vision, and that the perpetrator had not left her apartment by any normal human means, all would seem to add up to a Super-hero gone bad. And yet, from what he=92d been able to tell, the annoying hero had been= with the police at most incidents, *helping* them rather than being under suspicion. Still, while attempting to incriminate Superman had been amusing, it wasn=92= t really part of the strategy, so Lex wasn=92t particularly upset that the Super-hero had managed to convince the police that he wasn=92t involved. And= there were sure to be other ways in which he could create trouble for the man - and right now, he was otherwise occupied in snivelling over Lois Lane. This was, of course, another way in which that over-moral beefcake could never hope to defeat Lex Luthor. The man actually *cared*! He allowed himself to have feelings for those pitiful human beings among whom he was forced to exist - one thing Lex himself would never do. Of course, he wanted Lois, but desiring a woman sexually certainly did not imply any sense of affection or caring. By allowing oneself to feel such distasteful things as emotions towards other people, one became weakened. That was not the way to succeed. No; plan, strategise, allow no distractions to get in the way; ensure that next time victory would be absolutely his. Find Nigel; but first, get some sleep. Luthor was tired, which surprised him; he'd expected that possession of Super-powers would also give him unlimited energy resources. He'd never seen Superman tired, after all. But on the other hand, Superman was never on view twenty-four hours a day, so who knew what he did when he wasn't in the public eye? Perhaps he slept, or had some other way of renewing his energy stores. Getting some sleep sounded like an excellent idea, Lex thought, but where? He had no wish to return to that house; apart from the fact that the cosmic clown now knew of its existence, it was... sordid. It was dirty, unpleasant, the neighbours were appalling, and it smelt. No, the hideout which Gretchen Kelly had used would have to do; bare and dark it might be, but it was secure, and he wouldn't be disturbed. Having decided that, he lifted upwards from the roof of the Lexor and headed towards the basement which had once been his private underground museum, and was now stripped bare of all exhibits. The new owners of the former LexCorp-owned building on top of the basement had so far not found the secret entrance, which suited Lex just fine. Not even the Man of Stainless Steel would find him there, since the walls were lined with lead. *************** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:06:06 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: self-editing-- was Kathy's nfic- cwc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/00 3:08:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, judithwilliams@PRODIGY.NET writes: << So the lesson for today is: be as accurate as you can be (and see), then get a little help from your friends, who abound on this List. >> I am a firm believer in having someone else edit / proofread one's work. By the time any of us finishes writing something, we can't see the errors any more. It takes fresh eyes and someone who isn't so close to the work to see them. (I think of all the times that after I've seen the same misspelled word enought times, I started doubting myself.) Years ago when I worked in the main office of a bank, I noticed that the secretarial staff used to proofread each other's typing. One would read the rough draft of what she had just typed to another, who read along silently looking for mistakes. They said it was the only way they could be sure to catch any errors. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:21:42 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: Carrie and the scripts In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:12 AM 06/11/2000 -0700, my friend inadvertantly wrote to the list instead of privately... >Debby >>Debby@swcp.com >>yeah, scripts >>write for info > >Good Morning! I answered her--then in my out box, waiting to go out, saw that my reply would go to The List instead of to her. I have corrected that and my original reply will go to her. I'm sure she's mortified... but I would like to take this actually quite fortunate opportunity to explain why she and I find this whole situation distressing. To put it plainly, we went to considerable lengths to acquire all the L&C scripts that we have to offer. My friend in particular did some heavy-duty detective work to track down script after script, and she spent quite some $ on it, too. She may even have a line on some more versions, including one or two I really want to see. My friend wants to make photocopies of them available for fans. I bet she'll even be able to offer the Pilot of Greatest American Hero as well as the script for the episode in which Ralph turns over his suit, a script, as far as I know, that was never produced. Many of you already know that I personally spent a lot of time, at least 4 hours per script, to prepare them in computerized form. This includes "Big Girls Don't Fly", which is written all over by a crew member. Multiply that by 87 scripts--or more, actually, since we have two versions of quite a few 3rd and 4th-season scripts--and you can see that this was something a little bit more than just a labor of love and a little more work intensive than copying a videotape to send to a far-away fan or scanning a magazine picture. I don't think it is surprising that we hope to recoup some of our costs for all of this. After all, no one is surprised if people charge for the cost of copying and mailing tapes. But for some reason, some people can't understand why we who did all the work of acquiring and preparing scripts are upset to find that work *simply given away* by someone who can't come up with an original idea to make her site stand out among the hundreds of other L&C sites. So, if you're interested in paper copies or Mac text versions of script, write my friend (if you didn't save her email, I can give your her eddress). If you're interested in PC versions, write to me. If you're interested in a few sloppily formated versions (versions prepared before I wised up about presentations), visit Carrie's site. But in the long run I think you'll be happier and get a lot more if you talk to my friend or me about what we offer. Debby Debby@swcp.com off to watch a new favorite show Total Recall 2070 :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 21:33:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: FROM LIST MOM -- "re: the scripts" is CLOSED Sorry, everyone, this thread is CLOSED. I understand that people are upset on all sides, but it didn't start on this listserv and I don't want it here. I have enough problems of my own without importing them from other forums. This message should have never been posted here, and if I had any way to remove it from the website, I would have done so this morning. Do not reply to this thread. If anyone does, and I don't think it was an innocent mistake, you will be unsubscribed. Thank you, Kathy List Mom ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:29:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pat Subject: Re: Fan Fic Recommendation - Universal Union 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jenni wrote: > Thanks, James and Elisabeth for the recommendation; the feedback on UU2 > has been pretty sparse since it went up on the archive and I was beginning > to think that no one was reading it. I'm really sorry you thought that! I read and enjoyed Universal Union very much; in fact, every time new fanfic is posted to the archive, I check to see if UU3 has appeared. You've created a fascinating planet/universe and real, believable interesting characters; I'm anxious to see what happens to them next :) Pat peabody@mcs.com pattijean@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:13:54 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all ;) I hope you don't consider this off-topic , but my husband surprised me with a good question the other day about Lex, and since I'm trying to get inside of Lex's head for a fanfic I'm working on, I thought I'd pose it to you all. Maybe this has been talked about before, or maybe even been resolved in a fanfic I haven't read (and admittedly, there's a ton I haven't read lately, I'm sorry to say :P), and if it has, just smack me. But when we were sort of half watching the Clone Argh ;) on TNT the other day, my hubby asked something about Lex, and I was embarrassed to admit that I didn't know the answer. Why *was* Lex was so gung-ho to get Lois in a new body when he was hiding her from CK? What exactly would be left of Lois if she was put into a new body? If he "loved" her for her fearlessness, spirit and boldness, etc., that was kinda gone with her amnesia. And if it was just her looks that he loved, those would be gone with a new body. Or was it just the getting that he wanted? I'd love to hear what you all think, if this isn't too much off topic. The fic I'm working on deals with something like this, and I'd hate to make a fool out of myself by misinterpreting this. Besides, I have to admit that I felt pretty stupid when my husband asked me an LNC question that I didn't know the answer to. ;) Thanks for your help! Erin :) __________________ erink@ida.net Visit my LNC/Kerth Website: www.ida.net/users/davek ***** "It's not the years that count, it's the moments...right now, as they happen." __________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 01:08:07 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/11/00 11:28:05 PM EST, erink@IDA.NET writes: << Why *was* Lex was so gung-ho to get Lois in a new body when he was hiding her from CK? What exactly would be left of Lois if she was put into a new body? If he "loved" her for her fearlessness, spirit and boldness, etc., that was kinda gone with her amnesia. And if it was just her looks that he loved, those would be gone with a new body. Or was it just the getting that he wanted? >> Okay..well this is my .02 on the whole matter... Lex wanted to control Lois...he wanted to have her be the Queen of his evil empire. He knew that this would never happen while she and him were in their God given bodies. Clark would always be on their tail and Lex was a wanted man. By switching into other bodies...Lois and Lex could start fresh...they could be someone else. Lois had amnesia so starting new for her would have actually been welcomed...she knew nothing of what her old life or what the past of her new life as "Wanda" had actually been like. I guess to answer your question...Lex was "gung-ho" about the whole thing so he could go off into the Alps and rule his evil empire with his favorite lady by his side! With their new bodies nobody would suspect a thing! Did any of this just make sense? LOL! Alexis ;-.) "I gotta go. Thanks for sewing my jacket, Mom. That electrical storm over Cleveland was brutal..." (Clark) "Maybe you should take another route. See you next week." (Martha) {Lnc, Pilot} ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:23:21 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alexis wrote: >Lex wanted to control Lois...he wanted to have her be the Queen of his evil >empire. Yeah, but *why*? What was it about Lois that he couldn't resist? Not only her looks, I guess, if he was going to put her into a new body. And not her personality, since her amnesia personality wasn't the same as her Lois one. Why not just control somebody else??? Erin :) __________________ erink@ida.net Visit my LNC/Kerth Website: www.ida.net/users/davek ***** "It's not the years that count, it's the moments...right now, as they happen." __________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 01:33:17 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/00 0:28:26 AM EST, erink@IDA.NET writes: << Yeah, but *why*? What was it about Lois that he couldn't resist? Not only her looks, I guess, if he was going to put her into a new body. And not her personality, since her amnesia personality wasn't the same as her Lois one. Why not just control somebody else??? >> Lex claimed to *love* Lois, but i really don't think he knew what love really was. He was what psychologists would call the "obsessed lover." He was obsessed on controling Lois. He wanted to have Lois for his own because Superman wanted her too! He wanted to destroy Superman as much as possible. Possessing Lois would be the final nail in Superman's coffin. When Lex found out Clark and Superman were the same that only drove his passion even further! If all he wanted was Lois to begin with...all he had to do was kidnap her and take her away. But he added the clone and that other business just to torment Clark. He wanted to tormnent Clark as much as possible before getting his way. One thing I've definately noticed with Lex is he likes to *play* with his victims before really making his move. Alexis ;-.) "I gotta go. Thanks for sewing my jacket, Mom. That electrical storm over Cleveland was brutal..." (Clark) "Maybe you should take another route. See you next week." (Martha) {Lnc, Pilot} ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:59:41 -0700 Reply-To: ardchem@earthlink.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Lisa M. Ramirez" Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > [Original Message] > From: Erin Klingler Date: 6/11/00 10:27:59 PM > > Yeah, but *why*? What was it about Lois that he couldn't resist? Not only > her looks, I guess, if he was going to put her into a new body. And not her > personality, since her amnesia personality wasn't the same as her Lois one. > Why not just control somebody else??? Lex was always one to control free and spirited things. The falcon that he had comes to mind. It's wild and spirited and yet he found a way to control it. He has this fascination with powerful men - men who tamed a wild creature and controlled it by their own charisma and power: Alexander the Great and Richard III for instance. I think Lex was attracted to Lois's spirit and independence more so than her beauty. Okay, the beautiful woman caught his attention, but the fire that was Lois Lane kept him coming back for more. Even as Wanda Detroit, Lois's tenacity and zest for life and adventure came through. She was one independent lady who didn't take it from anyone - even Lex. After all, she stood up to Lex and said she didn't want to shuck her body like a piece of corn. Lex had to convince her that it was the best thing to do. Lex told Superman in Fall of the House of Luthor; he wanted to control or rather dominate her spirited nature. She was just a little too independent. Sure, Lois was beautiful, but I think that was almost secondary to Lex after he discovered Lois's tenacity and fire. Once he realized what she had, Lex's need to dominate and control kicked in. Lois could match him and fight him and Lex enjoyed the chase and the fight more than the actual conquest. Wanda was confused but she was no wall flower. Could a wall flower hold a gun and rob S.T.A.R. Labs with Lex and learn to enjoy it so much? Lex had one spirited and feisty woman on his hands - whether she went by the name of Wanda Detroit or Lois Lane. By transferring Lois's essence into another body, Lex won his prize in more ways than one. First he controls another wild and spirited creature - thus conquering what has so far been unconquerable for him. It wouldn't matter that no one else knew that he had subdued Lois Lane, HE, Lex, knew and that was enough. Lex is the worst form of evil person you can have. He does the deed and doesn't feel the need to brag about it, too much. He's satisfied that he's done it, and he knows about. He gets part of the thrill by knowing a secret - that he's pulling the wool over everyone's elses eyes. Second and equally important, I think, is that Lex KNEW that Clark was Superman. By taking Lois, he was besting Superman as well as devastating Superman in the only way Lex had left. Even if Lois eventually regained her memory, she would know, Lex would know and Clark would know that Lex had finally won. Okay. There's my $0.02 for what it's worth. Lisa M. Ramirez ardchem@earthlink.net In times if crisis, I changed "stressed" to "desserts". Life is much sweeter after that. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:23:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erin wrote: >What was it about Lois that he couldn't resist? -----He was drawn to her because she rejected him. Think of what he wanted that she said 'no' to beginning with her reluctance to say 'yes' to his proposal, then she wanted to wait until their wedding night and the final rejection of saying 'no' at the altar. She was a challenge he couldn't resist. She had to be his possession, giving way to his every whim. >And not her > personality, since her amnesia personality wasn't the same as her Lois one. -----Even her Wanda personality questioned his orders when they were breaking into STAR Lab and refused to obey him when he told her to kill Superman. Wanda may not have known she was Lois, but Lois was lurking underneath the surface anyway. And what would Lex have done with her, if he didn't put her in a new body? Kill her? But then he couldn't posses and control her. Let her go? Clark would have found her and she might get her memory back and he would have lost again. Lex had to be in control and he had to best Clark and Superman and anyone else who challenged him and Lois was definitely a challenge. >Why not just control somebody else??? -----There was no one else like Lois. Of course you can always chalk it up to the pheromone thing, but I never bought that one. Lex's personality just required him to own the best and Lois was the best in any re-incarnation. So for all those reasons-- to dominate the woman who rejected him, to win against his enemies. to own the best, to be the top man--he had to hide her and himself in new bodies so that they would be safe from the police and Superman and he could continue his evil plotting. And underneath it all, Evil was what Lex was all about. Jude ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:55:16 +0930 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jill Kaye Subject: Re: Kathy's nfic- cwc In-Reply-To: <20000610202625.98097.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > I did an assignment on the element Krypton in Year 8. ~Larissa~ LuC said: >>actually the first L&C fanfic i wrote for a senior highschool english >>assignment years back and my teacher loved it to death! (yes can you >>believe >>it? i used L&C to get marks... sad?:) >> > >Not at LuC. At least, I hope not. I actually did the same thing >myself...twice. Of course, neither one was a fanfic. One, actually, >was our essay for the year. Yup, I wrote an essay L&C and FoLCs. Well, she >said write what you know, so... > >Jessi >jessi914@hotmail.com >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:32:07 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erin asked: > Why *was* Lex was so gung-ho to get Lois in a new body when he was hiding her > from CK? What exactly would be left of Lois if she was put into a new body? > If he "loved" her for her fearlessness, spirit and boldness, etc., that was > kinda gone with her amnesia. And if it was just her looks that he loved, > those would be gone with a new body. Or was it just the getting that he > wanted? And lots of people gave some very compelling and convincing reasons why Lex Luthor wanted Lois (I've always gone along myself with the view that she was the one who got away, the one he couldn't control - that's explicit in When Lightning Strikes Twice, which I'm currently posting). But another fic which gives a great insight into why Lex still wanted Lois when she wasn't fully 'Lois' is Yvonne Connell's Fear of Discovery 3: Coming Home, which is being posted on the message boards (almost, but not quite, finished). This one's set in the alternate universe: anyone who read the first part in the series will remember Clark2. Anyone who's read FoD1 and 2, you've got a real treat coming in Part 3; and if you haven't read FoD 1 and 2, why not...?! Wendy -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:37:57 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Why *was* Lex was so gung-ho to get Lois in a new body when he was hiding her > from CK? Y'know, Erin, that has never made any sense to me, either, so I really don't know! That very issue confused me back when the eps were first aired, and I've since dealt with it by considering the issue (and the ARRGH) as little as possible ;) However, I suspect that the closest thing to a good reason is that for Lex, Lois had been reduced to a prize, an object, and the aim of the game was to get her away from his rivals, Clark and Superman. He may also have thought that her memory would return after she'd switched bodies, and he'd have enjoyed her helpless frustration. I suspect that the novelty would have worn off fairly quickly. But what do I know; I never thought he'd put up with being called "Kent" as long as he did. :) -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam http://personal.rdu.bellsouth.net/rdu/j/e/jernigan/ God made you special, and He loves you very much. -- Veggie Tales theology The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend. -- Henri Bergson ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:51:53 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Stefano Pistoia Subject: No mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit no mail ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:26:32 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kate Crane Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A very interesting question, Erin, one which I must admit to never considering before as I try not to dwell on the Arrgh too much ;). But here's a thought to add to all the great ones presented....when Lex first kidnapped Lois, _she did not have amnesia_, and his obsession with her did not diminish when she did indeed lose her memory. He just could not let anyone else have her even when Lois had lost her identity and outward appearance. He was too far gone and too invested in his diabolical plan to let a little thing like that stop him. Kate ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:31:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Shannon Subject: Re: Let It Be Me Part 8/31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" My part 8 of Let It Be Me isn't complete, could someone please send me a copy? Thanks! Shannon ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:38:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Shannon Subject: Re: Let It Be Me Part 8/31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I hate to keep bothering everyone, but I just realized I'm missing part 17 of Let It Be Me. If someone could send that to me, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! Shannon ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:05:29 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Let It Be Me Part 8/31 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I hate to keep bothering everyone, but I just realized I'm missing part > 17 of Let It Be Me. If someone could send that to me, I'd appreciate it. Shannon, it might be better if you simply searched the list archive at http://listserv.indiana.edu/archives/loiscla-general-l.html Since the story was only posted a few weeks ago, it shouldn't be that hard to find. Wendy -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:47:12 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor Comments: To: loiscla-general-l@indiana.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lisa wrote: >Lex told Superman in Fall >of the House of Luthor; he wanted to control or rather dominate her >spirited nature. She was just a little too independent. This was the thing that clinched Lex's evilness for me, that he wanted to change such an essential part of Lois's essence, her independence. The way he said those lines to Superman was just so malicious that I was sure that Lex could not possibly truly love Lois since independence was such a part of her. Jude wrote: But Lois couldn't have been the only woman to reject Lex. Yes, he's portrayed as a charismatic and manipulative guy, but there I would guess that there were other people, other women, who denied him things. I think Lex's fascination with Lois is rooted in her sometimes interest in him, and her independence. Lois wanted to control her relationship with Lex. She agrees to have dinner with him (IMO, suspecting that there was more to it than an interview) but refuses his advances. She dates Lex but he obviously comes second to her work (as in FH when Lois drags Lex to the Planet after-hours, when they had theater tickets). Lois almost acts the part of a tease with Lex, acting interested yet pulling back when he thinks he's got her. She continues acting this way throughout season 1; making him wait for an answer to his proposal, making him wait to sleep together until they're married, and, finally, turning him down at the altar. Throughout their relationship, Lois is constantly taking control, and I don't think Lex is used to losing control. I think Lois's physical appearance was secondary. Surely she was not the most beautiful woman Lex knew; he could easily have had more beautiful women, actresses, models, etc. I don't think he would've been interested in her if she wasn't attractive, but I don't think it was Lois's beauty which hooked Lex. Just MHO. Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:09:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: No mail Comments: To: Stefano Pistoia On Mon, 12 Jun 2000 13:51:53 +0200, Stefano Pistoia wrote: >no mail Remember, everyone, to change your settings to NOMAIL, you have to send your request to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU with the command SET LOISCLA-GENERAL-L NOMAIL Sending the message to the posting address won't change your settings. Thanks, Kathy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:32:47 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: Re: When Lightning Strikes Twice: Part 12/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great, Wendy, keep 'em coming. Looks like another epic for you! LaurieD ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 15:37:26 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Question for Fic--Lex Luthor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/12/00 1:48:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kubitc@KENYON.EDU writes: << But Lois couldn't have been the only woman to reject Lex. Yes, he's portrayed as a charismatic and manipulative guy, but there I would guess that there were other people, other women, who denied him things. >> You would think that there were; but in the series, we only see women who not only don't reject or deny Lex; but in fact chase after him long after his interest in them has waned (i.e. Miranda. Antoinette Baines, Gretchen Kelly, and Ariana Carlin). So I think Lois' denial and rejection is a major factor for Lex. He wants to possess that which others' do not have -- witness his secret museum in the Foundling. It's pretty clear that he wants her as a possession, not as a partner. I agree that her appearance is secondary. She's pretty, but so are many women. I think he is intrigued, as you say, by her on-off behavior at first. Then, when she becomes interested in Superman, he wants her so Superman can't have her. At the end of the Clone Arc, he's willing to let her die in that sewer rather than let Clark save her and have her in his life. I don't think Lex loves her; he wants her; and he is obsessed with her. There is a difference. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:39:04 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Mary Scibetta Subject: Re: Let It Be Me Part 8/31 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have first got to say I haven't had time to post the remaining of the story and will do that as soon as I am back at my own computer. Second, there was no chapter 17 due to the fact I missed numbered the original chapters. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:06:05 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Let It Be Me MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Meg4076@AOL.COM (Mary Scibetta) I have first got to say I haven't had time to post the remaining of the story and will do that as soon as I am back at my own computer. Second, there was no chapter 17 due to the fact I missed numbered the original chapters. >> What a relief. I was afraid I missed the rest of this lovely story. Charlotte - waiting patiently. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:08:00 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: alauters Subject: Time Elapsed 11/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Refresh my memory, Clark," Lois remarked as the two of them silently penetrated the outer offices of MorphCorp. "Why did you not x-ray the room earlier today?" "I did, honey," Clark said. "No secret rooms, no hidden safes. We left too quickly to look for more, but that paid off, didn^Òt it?" She patted his hand absently. "Yes, dear, you did good." Lois grinned at him wickedly. "But you always do." Clark pulled her into a quick hug. "At least now we know for a fact there^Òs something more going on. We don^Òt just suspect it." Lois relaxed into his arms for a moment, then pulled away. "And that means we^Òve got to find out who and why, Clark. My mother deserves to know why she ^Òs been put through this. And I need to know why, too." She pulled out her lock picks to work on the inner office door. "I need to find out, Clark," she whispered, as the door popped open with a click. "You^Òve still got it," Clark slipped inside with her quietly. He x-rayed the room again, taking care this time to look for other evidence and cameras. He had disabled two video cameras on the way in with quick bursts of heat vision. As Clark surveyed the room, he found one more. Quickly, he used heat vision to sever the input cable. "Lois, we^Òve got to find the security room and erase the tapes." "Later, Clark," Lois answered impatiently, from where she was rummaging in Franz^Òs desk. "Can you check his computer?" "Move over a little," Clark said, as he seated himself in the office chair and booted up the machine. Using a penlight, Lois continued to search through the lower drawers on the desk while Clark quietly tried several password combinations at superspeed. Frustrated, he stopped. "The problem is, it could be anything." Lois picked up a book from underneath a file in the bottom drawer of Franz^Òs desk. "Dream watchers?" She opened the front cover. "Clark, this is the same book Mike Soppeland gave me." "What?" Clark looked over her shoulder. "The exact same book?" "No, I still have that one in my desk at work," Lois started paging through Franz^Òs copy. It fell open at one, well-worn spot. Frowning, she read aloud, "^ÒAnd from ancient times, it was believed the god Morpheus controlled all dreams.^Ò" "Morpheus?" Clark questioned. "Try it," Lois urged. Clark typed in "Morpheus," and the machine allowed him access. Once inside, Clark found a standard Windows operating system. He conducted a search, using "Sam Lane." Sam^Òs project was located in a folder labeled "Current research projects." Clark opened up the file directly, and scanned through the documents. "Here we go," Clark said intently. "Project proposal." He double-clicked on the file, then was stymied again. "The file you have chosen is password-protected ^Å" Lois closed her eyes against the frustration. "Try Morpheus again," she suggested. He typed it in. "Nada," Clark said, staring at the screen. "Can we copy it?" Lois asked. "Yes, but the copy will also be password protected." "So what?" Lois asked. "We^Òll take it to Jimmy." "Uh, Lois," Clark said. "Did you happen to bring a disk?" "Of course I did." She pulled it out from under her black turtleneck. "Of course you did," Clark echoed, then put the disk in the drive to copy. As he did so, Lois put the book back in the bottom drawer and started to look through the bookshelves in the corner. She paused. "Clark, here^Òs another copy," Lois said. Clark looked up. ^ÓAnother copy of what?^Ô ^ÓDream watchers.^Ô Lois pulled it off the shelf and paged through it. ^ÓIt looks like the same edition.^Ô Finished copying the files he needed, Clark popped the disk out of the drive and powered down the machine before joining Lois at the bookshelf. ^ÓThat^Òs a strong coincidence, don^Òt you think?^Ô he asked as he peered over her shoulder. ^ÓDownright creepy,^Ô Lois agreed. ^ÓAnd why would anyone want two copies of what looks like a standard academic work?^Ô She handed the book to Clark. ^ÓLook, this one is in pristine condition, while the other, hidden in the desk, is so worn out it falls open.^Ô Clark shrugged. ^ÓThat^Òs not so unusual. I have several books I^Òve read to pieces. Usually, if they^Òre that good, I pick up new copies when I get the chance.^Ô Suddenly, Clark^Òs head went up. ^ÓSomeone^Òs coming.^Ô Quickly, he put the book back, grabbed Lois, and floated up to the ceiling, pinning Lois between himself and the ceiling tile. Their black clothing blended into the shadows on the ceiling as Franz quietly entered the room and crossed to his desk. Reaching into the bottom desk drawer, Franz picked up his copy of ^ÓDream watchers^Ô and left as quietly as he came in. Lois looked at Clark. In a barely audible whisper, she said, ^ÓLet^Òs follow him.^Ô Clark nodded his agreement. He floated them down, then disappeared for a moment. When he materialized again, seconds later, he held a hand out to her. ^ÓI glanced at the security tapes. We don^Òt appear on them. Hopefully, they^Òll just think the cameras malfunctioned.^Ô ^ÓDetails-oriented,^Ô Lois grinned. ^ÓI knew you^Òd come in handy.^Ô He kissed her on the nose. ^ÓLet^Òs go follow Franz.^Ô *** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:43:36 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Time Elapsed 11/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ooh, interesting installment. I had almost forgotten about this story. I'm glad to see that you're back at work on it. Keep it coming. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:10:01 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Re: Time Elapsed 11/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was really glad to see another installment of this very engrossing story. Keep writing! Irene ===== www.communities.msn.com/equestrianmusic __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:42:11 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kristin Olsen-Molnar Subject: Re: Time Elapsed 11/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could someone send me parts 9 and 10 of this story please? Once again my pc hates me:) thanks all! -Teri44isme@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:11:22 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: When Lightning Strikes Twice: Part 13/? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Title: When Lightning Strikes Twice Author: Wendy Richards Rating: PG-13 Part: 13 of ? Comments: Public, private, anything! -------------------------------------------------------------------- That had been a close call, Lex Luthor considered as he flew carefully up towards the Lexor Hotel, his chosen place of temporary refuge. He'd imagined that it would be so easy to defeat and kill that tedious tights-clad do-gooder given that Superman's 'morals' prevented him from killing, but he' d clearly over-estimated his own ability to overcome the Super-hero. He had found himself growing gradually weaker, and the final straw had been when the annoying *insect* had managed to overpower him. Although he'd known Superman wouldn't kill him, the alternatives were too horrible to contemplate. And so he'd been forced to use Lois as his escape-route. He did hope he hadn 't killed her; she was very beautiful, after all, and he still had some unfinished business with her. But it had been a necessary evil, and she had been expendable in that situation, after all. And it was a very certain means of ensuring that Superman would focus his attention elsewhere than on Lex Luthor. And, of course, the thought that the alien was suffering as a result gave him a feeling of satisfaction; and, no doubt, he would find out sooner or later whether Lois was alive. And if, by good fortune, she was, he would have another opportunity to sample what she had denied him throughout the period of their engagement. It occurred to him that, instead of making his escape, he could have taken advantage of the Super-hero's distraction to aim a bolt of heat vision at his back; but it was probably better this way. For one thing, he couldn't be sure that one bolt would do it - he had no way of knowing, yet, exactly how far invulnerability went. After all, he'd seen Superman go into raging infernos and come out unscathed. For another, he knew how fast his own reflexes were now; how much faster were the Caped Cruiser's, when he'd had, presumably, all his life to get used to his abilities? So he'd decided, in the best spirit of all good campaigns, that a strategic retreat was in order. And there were times, also in campaigns waged by the best of generals, that a sacrifice had to be made for the good of those whose survival was more important. Now, he had to decide what his next move should be. Clearly killing that annoying Super-bug was not going to be as straightforward as he had expected; perhaps simple hand-to-hand combat, in the best traditions of duels, was not going to suffice. He needed Kryptonite; and for that, he needed to find Nigel. So that would have to be the priority; Superman could wait, for now. The best campaigns were those which were carefully planned, not those which were rushed into without adequate preparation; SuperLex had more sense than to act on impulse without very good cause. There was one other thing Luthor was curious about: how had the irritating blue-fly managed to convince the police that Gretchen Kelly's death had nothing to do with him? The set-up had been pretty ingenious - masterful, in fact, Lex considered. The 'S' insignia, and the fact that it had been done with heat vision, and that the perpetrator had not left her apartment by any normal human means, all would seem to add up to a Super-hero gone bad. And yet, from what he'd been able to tell, the annoying hero had been with the police at most incidents, *helping* them rather than being under suspicion. Still, while attempting to incriminate Superman had been amusing, it wasn't really part of the strategy, so Lex wasn't particularly upset that the Super-hero had managed to convince the police that he wasn't involved. And there were sure to be other ways in which he could create trouble for the man - and right now, he was otherwise occupied in snivelling over Lois Lane. This was, of course, another way in which that over-moral beefcake could never hope to defeat Lex Luthor. The man actually *cared*! He allowed himself to have feelings for those pitiful human beings among whom he was forced to exist - one thing Lex himself would never do. Of course, he wanted Lois, but desiring a woman sexually certainly did not imply any sense of affection or caring. By allowing oneself to feel such distasteful things as emotions towards other people, one became weakened. That was not the way to succeed. No; plan, strategise, allow no distractions to get in the way; ensure that next time victory would be absolutely his. Find Nigel; but first, get some sleep. Luthor was tired, which surprised him; he'd expected that possession of Super-powers would also give him unlimited energy resources. He'd never seen Superman tired, after all. But on the other hand, Superman was never on view twenty-four hours a day, so who knew what he did when he wasn't in the public eye? Perhaps he slept, or had some other way of renewing his energy stores. Getting some sleep sounded like an excellent idea, Lex thought, but where? He had no wish to return to that house; apart from the fact that the cosmic clown now knew of its existence, it was... sordid. It was dirty, unpleasant, the neighbours were appalling, and it smelt. No, the hideout which Gretchen Kelly had used would have to do; bare and dark it might be, but it was secure, and he wouldn't be disturbed. Having decided that, he lifted upwards from the roof of the Lexor and headed towards the basement which had once been his private underground museum, and was now stripped bare of all exhibits. The new owners of the former LexCorp-owned building on top of the basement had so far not found the secret entrance, which suited Lex just fine. Not even the Man of Stainless Steel would find him there, since the walls were lined with lead. *************** Clark flew slowly, reluctantly, away from the hospital; he'd been told by the doctor treating Lois that there was no need for him to stay, and he'd finally, belatedly, realised that everyone in the ER was wondering why Superman was hovering so anxiously around Lois Lane's cubicle. She wasn't badly hurt, he'd had to be reassured by that knowledge. The doctor had seemed more concerned about the possibility of a head injury, since Lois had been unconscious, than about the burn on her arm, although both were being treated. Lois had regained consciousness just as he'd reached the hospital with her in his arms; she'd blinked and looked up at him and rather woozily had asked whether he was okay. He'd been too concerned about her, and too full of his own feelings of guilt, to say much in response and had not encouraged conversation, simply striding straight into the ER with her. Nurses and orderlies had come running at the sight of Metropolis's Super-hero arriving with an injured woman, and he'd quickly found himself confronted with a young doctor eager to take a case history. The explanation for Lois's injury had been difficult: Clark really did not want anyone else to know that Lex Luthor - or anyone other than himself - had Super-powers. So he'd had to gloss over the truth a little, and simply make it sound as if it had been his heat vision, and that Lois had somehow got in the way. He'd received a faintly critical glance at that, as if to say that he should have been more careful; well, he thought, he should have. But when he explained that he'd applied some freezing Super-breath to the burn site, the doctor's annoyed tutting had alarmed him. "I thought it was the right thing to do, to cool a burn?" he'd asked. "To cool it, yes - not to freeze it!" the doctor told him. "By freezing it, you kill more skin cells, which means she'll have more of a scar than she could have otherwise. The best treatment for an ordinary burn is to hold it under cold running water for about ten minutes." So, instead of helping Lois, he'd actually made things worse for her? Clark' s feelings of guilt intensified at that discovery. He also determined that it would be a good idea to take a first-aider's course at the earliest opportunity: while he often applied what common-sense seemed to dictate was good first-aid at the scene of an accident, this told him that he could be making all sorts of mistakes without knowing it. But the doctor needed more information; after filling him in on Lois's head injury, Clark could only watch as a nurse wheeled Lois off to a cubicle to carry out the standard checks following loss of consciousness due to a head injury. His attention was recalled to the doctor then as he heard the man cough a little impatiently. "We need some information about your heat vision, Superman," Dr Scott explained. "From what I've just seen, it looks as if it's just given her a thermal burn - probably a second-degree, maybe third-degree right at the centre, but since she's obviously in pain it's not entirely third-degree." At the Super-hero's obviously questioning expression, the doctor continued. "Third-degree goes right to the nerve and destroys it - so there's nothing there to feel any pain. It's just possible that the centre of the burn could be third-degree, but the redness around the edges and those blisters beginning to develop suggest second-degree to me. The thing we need to know is how your heat vision works." Clark frowned. "I'm really not sure. It's just... just a ray, almost like a laser, and it can burn or cut - I can moderate the force of it, though. At the mildest, it's perfectly safe and you'd just feel a little warmth. At the strongest, it can cut through steel." "Or carve a human being into barbecued pieces," Dr Scott muttered. Clark winced. "Okay, if it works like a laser, maybe we should treat this like a laser burn," the doctor continued, though he seemed to be thinking aloud. "Thing is, the symptoms look much more like a standard thermal burn, but who knows what tissue and nerve damage there is underneath?" He paused, seeming to be deep in thought, and then demanded, "Is there any likelihood of radiation?" Clark shook his head; that much he did know. "Will she be okay?" he managed to ask at last. "I mean, how much damage will there be to her arm?" The doctor shrugged. "If it's just a thermal burn, even at second-degree with some third-degree damage, she'll have a scar but the arm itself should be fine - there shouldn't be any loss of function from what I've seen. The head injury - well, that depends. We'll have to keep her under observation, and I want to keep an eye on that burn as well, in case there're any complications. The nurse will have put some wet sterile dressings on it, but we better just hope there's nothing in that vision of yours that would cause an infection of some sort." Clark had got the distinct impression that the ER doctor considered him to have been negligent; and, in fact, he reflected as he considered whether to set his course for Smallville, he had been. He should have ignored Luthor and got Lois out of there regardless of her own wishes. And he should have known better than to freeze the burn; the thought that he might have made things worse was eating away at him. She would be all right, he reminded himself. his conscience pointed out, She wouldn't have been hurt at all if it hadn't been for Lex Luthor, he reminded himself sternly. Luthor had kidnapped her, and it had been Luthor who had treated her as expendable in his need to escape. Luthor had used his heat vision on Lois, the woman he'd once intended to marry. Well, Lex Luthor would pay for that, Clark resolved. He wasn't going to go after the man now, much though he wanted to: he knew only too well that if he found Luthor now he would find it very hard to hold onto his ethics. No, far better to catch up with his adversary when he'd had time to calm down. And anyway, right now he wanted to talk to his parents; he needed to tell them what had happened and seek their reassurance. He'd felt so helpless in the ER, just watching her being wheeled away from him, unable to be near her or to do anything to help, or even to hold her. He hadn't even been able to claim the right of a best friend or partner to stay with her, since he'd been there as Superman. He briefly considered whether Lois would be safe if he left her alone: would it be better if he hovered above the hospital to keep an eye on her? But he dismissed that thought: he couldn't stay there all night. What if an emergency came up and Superman was needed? He could, he reflected, go to see Henderson and fill him in on what had happened, and ask him to assign protection to Lois - but that would involve some additional explanations to the hospital staff, which he really didn't want. And in any case, what could the police really do? Sit outside her room all night? It was unlikely that Luthor would be able to get in, in any case; he wouldn't run the risk of walking in as himself in case he was recognised, and if he used his Super-powers, he'd still have to break in. And anyway, did Luthor know that Lois was alive? For all the man knew, she could have been dead. No, far better to come back himself later just to check that she was okay, and then start a more serious hunt for Luthor. The man had a lot to answer for; but first, Clark needed to go home. **************** "So, tell us again, how did Lois get hurt?" Jonathan Kent asked carefully. Clark, who had already been over his explanation twice, couldn't understand why his father needed him to go through it again. But he obliged, nonetheless, although more frustration was creeping into his tone, replacing the self-recrimination which had been there on his previous attempts. "So, let me see if I've got this right," Jonathan answered, pausing to sip from a mug of hot chocolate. "Lois decided to leave the safe place you'd brought her to and put herself in danger by returning to Metropolis. Lex Luthor found her and abducted her. You found her and told her - twice - to get out of there. Lex Luthor fried - sorry, used his heat vision on her. I'm a bit lost here, Clark. Mind explaining to me how that makes it *your* fault she got hurt?" Clark stared helplessly at his mother, hoping she at least would understand, but she shook her head. "Your father's right, honey, even if I wouldn't have put it as strongly as that. All you did was go after Lois to rescue her. The rest was Luthor's doing." "But I should have expected he'd try something like that," Clark protested. "You can't anticipate everything," Martha pointed out. "And anyway, Luthor wanted to marry her six months ago - or, probably, from his point of view, only a few days ago. Why would you imagine he'd try to kill her?" Clark shrugged helplessly. "I knew he might want revenge on her. But I should have just grabbed her and flown her out of there the second I arrived." "You thought she'd be safe with you there," Jonathan reminded him. "You needed to bring Luthor in, or neutralise him somehow. And he was determined to try to kill you, so you didn't have a lot of choice once he started attacking you. Anyway, you told Lois to get out of there when you realised things were getting dangerous." "Okay, okay," Clark sighed. "But I couldn't even treat her burn properly! And I didn't check to see whether she was alive for a couple of minutes. Her injuries could be worse because I didn't act fast enough." "Now you're just being silly," Martha exclaimed impatiently. "Honestly, Clark! You were in shock! You're still in shock, in fact," she added, placing her hand where his pulse beat furiously in his throat. "And as for freezing her burn, you didn't know any better. You ask that doctor whether she'd have been in a better condition if you'd done nothing!" Clark had to concede that his mother was right; he knew that if he hadn't made any attempt to cool the burn area, her arm would have been covered in blisters and raw red skin. The healing process would take longer, she would be in more pain, and - depending how deep the burn went - she could have needed a skin graft. But it was hard to stop himself feeling that he should have been able to prevent it happening in the first place. "Come here, honey," Martha urged, getting to her feet and holding her arms out to Clark. He accepted the hug gratefully, drawing comfort from her embrace. "I can't help it, Mom," he told her after a while. "I love her - I can't bear to see her hurt, and when I could have prevented it...." "I know, sweetie," Martha told him. "But you can't be everywhere and do everything, you know that. Lois is going to be *fine,* that's the important thing." Clark released his hold on her, stepping back. "Yeah, I know," he conceded wryly. "It's just remembering her scream, seeing her lying there on the floor, thinking she was dead...." He swallowed. "Anyway, I guess the main thing now is making sure Luthor can't get to her again. I've got to get back," he finished. "Sure, son," Jonathan agreed. "But call us, okay? And we hope you deal with Luthor, but be careful. He's made it clear he wants to kill you." Clark nodded. "I don't think he'll find that as easy as he thought. And he didn't have Kryptonite after all, you know. Maybe he hasn't got access to any more of it - maybe he's got no idea what happened to that cage." "Let's hope so, honey," his mother said with emphasis. "Let us know how Lois is tomorrow." "I will." With a rapid breeze and a sonic boom, he was gone. *************** -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:16:19 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: IGNORE PREVIOUS: This is WLST Part 13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [Sorry, I made a mistake with my previous posting. This replaces it] Story: When Lightning Strikes Twice Author: Wendy Richards Rating: PG-13 Part: 13 of ? Comments: Public, private, any _________________________________ Clark flew slowly, reluctantly, away from the hospital; he'd been told by the doctor treating Lois that there was no need for him to stay, and he'd finally, belatedly, realised that everyone in the ER was wondering why Superman was hovering so anxiously around Lois Lane's cubicle. She wasn't badly hurt, he'd had to be reassured by that knowledge. The doctor had seemed more concerned about the possibility of a head injury, since Lois had been unconscious, than about the burn on her arm, although both were being treated. Lois had regained consciousness just as he'd reached the hospital with her in his arms; she'd blinked and looked up at him and rather woozily had asked whether he was okay. He'd been too concerned about her, and too full of his own feelings of guilt, to say much in response and had not encouraged conversation, simply striding straight into the ER with her. Nurses and orderlies had come running at the sight of Metropolis's Super-hero arriving with an injured woman, and he'd quickly found himself confronted with a young doctor eager to take a case history. The explanation for Lois's injury had been difficult: Clark really did not want anyone else to know that Lex Luthor - or anyone other than himself - had Super-powers. So he'd had to gloss over the truth a little, and simply make it sound as if it had been his heat vision, and that Lois had somehow got in the way. He'd received a faintly critical glance at that, as if to say that he should have been more careful; well, he thought, he should have. But when he explained that he'd applied some freezing Super-breath to the burn site, the doctor's annoyed tutting had alarmed him. "I thought it was the right thing to do, to cool a burn?" he'd asked. "To cool it, yes - not to freeze it!" the doctor told him. "By freezing it, you kill more skin cells, which means she'll have more of a scar than she could have otherwise. The best treatment for an ordinary burn is to hold it under cold running water for about ten minutes." So, instead of helping Lois, he'd actually made things worse for her? Clark' s feelings of guilt intensified at that discovery. He also determined that it would be a good idea to take a first-aider's course at the earliest opportunity: while he often applied what common-sense seemed to dictate was good first-aid at the scene of an accident, this told him that he could be making all sorts of mistakes without knowing it. But the doctor needed more information; after filling him in on Lois's head injury, Clark could only watch as a nurse wheeled Lois off to a cubicle to carry out the standard checks following loss of consciousness due to a head injury. His attention was recalled to the doctor then as he heard the man cough a little impatiently. "We need some information about your heat vision, Superman," Dr Scott explained. "From what I've just seen, it looks as if it's just given her a thermal burn - probably a second-degree, maybe third-degree right at the centre, but since she's obviously in pain it's not entirely third-degree." At the Super-hero's obviously questioning expression, the doctor continued. "Third-degree goes right to the nerve and destroys it - so there's nothing there to feel any pain. It's just possible that the centre of the burn could be third-degree, but the redness around the edges and those blisters beginning to develop suggest second-degree to me. The thing we need to know is how your heat vision works." Clark frowned. "I'm really not sure. It's just... just a ray, almost like a laser, and it can burn or cut - I can moderate the force of it, though. At the mildest, it's perfectly safe and you'd just feel a little warmth. At the strongest, it can cut through steel." "Or carve a human being into barbecued pieces," Dr Scott muttered. Clark winced. "Okay, if it works like a laser, maybe we should treat this like a laser burn," the doctor continued, though he seemed to be thinking aloud. "Thing is, the symptoms look much more like a standard thermal burn, but who knows what tissue and nerve damage there is underneath?" He paused, seeming to be deep in thought, and then demanded, "Is there any likelihood of radiation?" Clark shook his head; that much he did know. "Will she be okay?" he managed to ask at last. "I mean, how much damage will there be to her arm?" The doctor shrugged. "If it's just a thermal burn, even at second-degree with some third-degree damage, she'll have a scar but the arm itself should be fine - there shouldn't be any loss of function from what I've seen. The head injury - well, that depends. We'll have to keep her under observation, and I want to keep an eye on that burn as well, in case there're any complications. The nurse will have put some wet sterile dressings on it, but we better just hope there's nothing in that vision of yours that would cause an infection of some sort." Clark had got the distinct impression that the ER doctor considered him to have been negligent; and, in fact, he reflected as he considered whether to set his course for Smallville, he had been. He should have ignored Luthor and got Lois out of there regardless of her own wishes. And he should have known better than to freeze the burn; the thought that he might have made things worse was eating away at him. She would be all right, he reminded himself. his conscience pointed out, She wouldn't have been hurt at all if it hadn't been for Lex Luthor, he reminded himself sternly. Luthor had kidnapped her, and it had been Luthor who had treated her as expendable in his need to escape. Luthor had used his heat vision on Lois, the woman he'd once intended to marry. Well, Lex Luthor would pay for that, Clark resolved. He wasn't going to go after the man now, much though he wanted to: he knew only too well that if he found Luthor now he would find it very hard to hold onto his ethics. No, far better to catch up with his adversary when he'd had time to calm down. And anyway, right now he wanted to talk to his parents; he needed to tell them what had happened and seek their reassurance. He'd felt so helpless in the ER, just watching her being wheeled away from him, unable to be near her or to do anything to help, or even to hold her. He hadn't even been able to claim the right of a best friend or partner to stay with her, since he'd been there as Superman. He briefly considered whether Lois would be safe if he left her alone: would it be better if he hovered above the hospital to keep an eye on her? But he dismissed that thought: he couldn't stay there all night. What if an emergency came up and Superman was needed? He could, he reflected, go to see Henderson and fill him in on what had happened, and ask him to assign protection to Lois - but that would involve some additional explanations to the hospital staff, which he really didn't want. And in any case, what could the police really do? Sit outside her room all night? It was unlikely that Luthor would be able to get in, in any case; he wouldn't run the risk of walking in as himself in case he was recognised, and if he used his Super-powers, he'd still have to break in. And anyway, did Luthor know that Lois was alive? For all the man knew, she could have been dead. No, far better to come back himself later just to check that she was okay, and then start a more serious hunt for Luthor. The man had a lot to answer for; but first, Clark needed to go home. **************** "So, tell us again, how did Lois get hurt?" Jonathan Kent asked carefully. Clark, who had already been over his explanation twice, couldn't understand why his father needed him to go through it again. But he obliged, nonetheless, although more frustration was creeping into his tone, replacing the self-recrimination which had been there on his previous attempts. "So, let me see if I've got this right," Jonathan answered, pausing to sip from a mug of hot chocolate. "Lois decided to leave the safe place you'd brought her to and put herself in danger by returning to Metropolis. Lex Luthor found her and abducted her. You found her and told her - twice - to get out of there. Lex Luthor fried - sorry, used his heat vision on her. I'm a bit lost here, Clark. Mind explaining to me how that makes it *your* fault she got hurt?" Clark stared helplessly at his mother, hoping she at least would understand, but she shook her head. "Your father's right, honey, even if I wouldn't have put it as strongly as that. All you did was go after Lois to rescue her. The rest was Luthor's doing." "But I should have expected he'd try something like that," Clark protested. "You can't anticipate everything," Martha pointed out. "And anyway, Luthor wanted to marry her six months ago - or, probably, from his point of view, only a few days ago. Why would you imagine he'd try to kill her?" Clark shrugged helplessly. "I knew he might want revenge on her. But I should have just grabbed her and flown her out of there the second I arrived." "You thought she'd be safe with you there," Jonathan reminded him. "You needed to bring Luthor in, or neutralise him somehow. And he was determined to try to kill you, so you didn't have a lot of choice once he started attacking you. Anyway, you told Lois to get out of there when you realised things were getting dangerous." "Okay, okay," Clark sighed. "But I couldn't even treat her burn properly! And I didn't check to see whether she was alive for a couple of minutes. Her injuries could be worse because I didn't act fast enough." "Now you're just being silly," Martha exclaimed impatiently. "Honestly, Clark! You were in shock! You're still in shock, in fact," she added, placing her hand where his pulse beat furiously in his throat. "And as for freezing her burn, you didn't know any better. You ask that doctor whether she'd have been in a better condition if you'd done nothing!" Clark had to concede that his mother was right; he knew that if he hadn't made any attempt to cool the burn area, her arm would have been covered in blisters and raw red skin. The healing process would take longer, she would be in more pain, and - depending how deep the burn went - she could have needed a skin graft. But it was hard to stop himself feeling that he should have been able to prevent it happening in the first place. "Come here, honey," Martha urged, getting to her feet and holding her arms out to Clark. He accepted the hug gratefully, drawing comfort from her embrace. "I can't help it, Mom," he told her after a while. "I love her - I can't bear to see her hurt, and when I could have prevented it...." "I know, sweetie," Martha told him. "But you can't be everywhere and do everything, you know that. Lois is going to be *fine,* that's the important thing." Clark released his hold on her, stepping back. "Yeah, I know," he conceded wryly. "It's just remembering her scream, seeing her lying there on the floor, thinking she was dead...." He swallowed. "Anyway, I guess the main thing now is making sure Luthor can't get to her again. I've got to get back," he finished. "Sure, son," Jonathan agreed. "But call us, okay? And we hope you deal with Luthor, but be careful. He's made it clear he wants to kill you." Clark nodded. "I don't think he'll find that as easy as he thought. And he didn't have Kryptonite after all, you know. Maybe he hasn't got access to any more of it - maybe he's got no idea what happened to that cage." "Let's hope so, honey," his mother said with emphasis. "Let us know how Lois is tomorrow." "I will." With a rapid breeze and a sonic boom, he was gone. *************** Lois tried to sit up in the narrow hospital bed, and winced. Her head hurt. Still hurt, despite the fact that she'd asked the nurse for pain relief twice already in the last couple of hours. She hadn't been given any; the nurse had explained that she was under observation for suspected concussion and they didn't want to mask any symptoms by giving her analgesia. she thought sardonically. And it wasn't just her head either; her upper arm was also throbbing under the sterile dressing. Remembering how she'd come by that particular injury, she closed her eyes briefly in frustration and self-condemnation. Superman had told her over and over to get out of the way, but she'd ignored him; and so she'd been perfectly placed for Luthor to use her as his escape route once the Super-hero had overpowered him. If she hadn't been there, Luthor would probably be behind bars by now - or under whatever restraint it would be possible to put a Super-powered villain. Lex's attack on her also answered her own question of the previous evening, about his attitude towards her now. She'd wondered, before he'd arrived at her apartment, whether he really would hurt her or be prepared to kill her; now she knew. He would stop at nothing to get what he desired, even if that entailed killing someone he had claimed to care about. All his apparent caring for her had been no more than a facade to aid him in getting whatever it was he'd wanted at the time. And he'd wanted her, back then; but it hadn't been because he'd had any finer feelings for her. She'd never really believed that he was in love with her, even though he had professed to love her. But she had assumed that he cared about her, liked her, enjoyed her company, found her to be an entertaining and intelligent companion and desired her. She supposed he still felt the latter: he'd suggested as much a couple of times during that hour when she'd been his captive. But his endearments had been spoken sarcastically, not lovingly; and he'd seen her as expendable. she asked herself, brushing away an unwanted tear. No, she had no feelings for Lex Luthor, other than contempt. The problem was that seeing him again had brought back all the feelings of shame and disgust she'd felt the previous May, when her crazy engagement had ended at the altar and her ex-fiance had committed suicide. She had very quickly come to her senses, realised just what an unbelievably *stupid* thing she had almost done - marrying *Lex Luthor,* for crying out loud, a man she didn't love, and when, in fact, she'd been in love with someone else. Cutting herself off from all of her friends and support structures, and losing the friendship of someone who had come to be incredibly important to her in the brief year she 'd known him. Clark Kent. The only true friend she had ever had; the person who'd taught her what having a best friend meant. The man she had worked with, laughed with, fought with, shared late-night takeouts at the Planet or one of their apartments with when they'd been working late, gone to movies with sometimes, come to lean on in a way the independent Lois Lane had never depended on another human being in her life before. It hadn't been until she knew she'd lost his friendship then, that terrible day when he'd abandoned her in the road when she'd been driving that showy car Lex had lent her, that it had really dawned on her just how much he meant to her. And then, in those few minutes before the wedding ceremony started, she had realised that Clark really meant much more to her than a friend. But it had been too late. Not too late to stop the wedding, but too late for her and Clark. And yet, it hadn't, or not, at any rate, for their friendship. He'd put their rift behind him once he knew she needed him, and even though he'd cut her off as she'd been about to say that perhaps she felt more for him than friendship - and he'd equally managed to avoid a similar conversation with her a few months later in the aftermath of his shooting - she could perhaps understand his reluctance. After all, she'd behaved in an appallingly fickle manner - Clark had been well aware of her feelings for Superman, and yet she 'd accepted Luthor's proposal. She supposed it would had appeared kind of shallow had she then professed feelings for Clark barely forty-eight hours after her ex-fiance's death. But she still cared for Clark, very much. Exactly what her feelings for him were was something she was reluctant to verbalise, even to herself, however; and those two occasions when she'd been prevented from getting into a discussion with him about their relationship had made her shy away from any further moves in that direction. After all, he was her best friend. If she lost him - and she'd almost lost him only a couple of months earlier - then *she* would be lost. Better to have him as a good friend than as an ex-lover if things went as badly as in all her previous relationships, she'd concluded. But then Lex Luthor had returned, had turned her life upside-down again, and she still had no idea whether Clark was dead or alive. Seeing Luthor again had served mostly to remind her of how badly she'd felt about herself in those few months immediately after the end of her engagement. It was also embarrassing to realise that, looking at him now, she only felt revulsion. And he'd injured her... she'd been very lucky, she supposed. After all, from what she'd been able to work out, he'd killed six people the previous day, one of whom had been the woman who'd brought him back to life and given him his powers. And, from the little the news programmes had seemed to know, it appeared that Gretchen Kelly's death had been particularly horrible. She too could have been dead, fried by a dart of Lex Luthor's heat vision. Instead, he had only caught her arm - presumably because he hadn't taken the time to target his vision properly? - and she was okay, with just an easily-treatable burn. She would probably have a scar, but Dr Scott didn't think there was any nerve damage. In fact, when she'd come around properly in the ER and managed to shake off the muzziness, she'd realised that the ER staff were more concerned about her head injury; she'd been bombarded with demands to repeat her name, the year, the name of the President, her address... she knew it was the normal routine, but she'd just wanted to close her eyes and make the pain go away. But the pain hadn't really gone away, and she'd drifted between wakefulness and a state of semi-sleep with weird, vivid dreams for most of the night. So now it was early morning, and although no pain relief was forthcoming, it was possible that she might at least get a cup of tea soon. She wondered vaguely whether Superman might visit her; he hadn't stayed around the previous evening, but then she assumed that he'd taken off in pursuit of Luthor. Her last memory of Superman was of him talking earnestly to Dr Scott as she'd been wheeled off to a treatment cubicle. He'd been quiet on the flight to the hospital, from what she could remember; when she'd regained consciousness to feel herself airborne in his arms, her first thought had been the fight with Luthor and her fears for his safety. But he'd merely replied in a monosyllable to her agitated question, and hadn 't spoken to her at all as he'd brought her into the ER. Had he been angry with her for disobeying his instruction to leave? Or - worse still - for leaving the safety of Clark's parents' home? After all, he'd been adamant about taking her there for her own safety. Yet she'd completely ignored his instructions - which had, after all, been based on a very reasonable expectation that she would be in danger - and had returned to Metropolis. She'd put herself right in Luthor's path, and had been responsible for luring Superman into a trap which could very easily have led to his death. Yes, if Superman was angry with her, it was entirely understandable. And, she supposed, there was no real reason why he should visit her, or show any concern for her at all. This was entirely her own fault, and she couldn't blame him if he washed his hands of her. Her thoughts of Superman made her recall Luthor's bizarre suggestion, the previous evening, that Superman was in love with her. At the time, she hadn' t known what to think, but now in the cold light of day - and especially in the light of his manner last night when taking her to the hospital - she knew Lex couldn't have been more wrong. Superman felt responsible for her, she reckoned; he also thought of her as a friend. He'd told her that only the other day. But love... no. He'd made that perfectly clear. She wasn't even sure whether Superman would be interested in women in that way - okay, he'd kissed her on a couple of occasions, but never made the slightest attempt to follow up those kisses, even though it must have been obvious that she wouldn't have repulsed him. No, Luthor was wrong about that, as he was wrong about so many other things. But Clark, on the other hand, did care about her... but where was he? Would she ever see him again? She was jerked out of her depressing thoughts by the nurse putting her head around the door to tell Lois that she had a visitor. **************** -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:52:50 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: OT: Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is an OT fanfic question for a non-related Lois and Clark fanfic I'm working on right now. It's a question about DNA. Can someone tell me what states or do all states require babies to get DNA tests before, or after they are born? In this case the father was married to the mother and he thinks it was his child, until way after it's been born. He finds out later it was not his because the mother hid the DNA results from him. Does this make sense? Meaning the child had a DNA test even though the supposed parents of the child were married so the hospital and people around them automatically assume the child is theres? You can either post your answers/thoughts here, or email me privately. Thanks, Alexis ;-.) "I'm a man's man and he's a man's dog." -Dean Cain, Instyle Magazine ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:06:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: OT: Question In-Reply-To: <73.42dcd38.26791262@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I don't believe that dna tests are required or automatic anywhere after child birth--I know this is true for Colorado, where I went through most of my prenatal care, and also for New York, where I ended up giving birth. I imagine that there would be huge legal challenges if anyone tried to do make it mandatory. The only test, I believe, that *is* mandatory is an HIV test when you have a positive pregnancy result at the doctor or hospital. (though the military does take dna samples from everyone who enlists... don't think that helps, but I believe it's the only instance that it is mandatory). cerise At 12:52 PM 6/14/00 EDT, you wrote: >This is an OT fanfic question for a non-related Lois and Clark fanfic I'm >working on right now. It's a question about DNA. Can someone tell me what >states or do all states require babies to get DNA tests before, or after they >are born? In this case the father was married to the mother and he thinks it >was his child, until way after it's been born. He finds out later it was not >his because the mother hid the DNA results from him. Does this make sense? >Meaning the child had a DNA test even though the supposed parents of the >child were married so the hospital and people around them automatically >assume the child is theres? > >You can either post your answers/thoughts here, or email me privately. > >Thanks, >Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:18:07 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: PJ Piasecki Subject: Re: OT: Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 6/14/00 12:07:31 PM Central Daylight Time, cndcherry@MINDSPRING.COM writes: << Can someone tell me what >states or do all states require babies to get DNA tests before, or after they >are born? >> I don't think that *any* states could require that, legally, unless at the request of one or both parents. Doesn't it usually take a court order otherwise? Piper ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:26:34 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: Re: IGNORE PREVIOUS: This is WLST Part 13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit S P O I L E R S P A C E Wendy, I'm aching for a revelation. Poor Lois, worried about Clark's safety. Keep those posts coming! LaurieD ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:20:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: OT: Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alexis wrote: >This is an OT fanfic question for a non-related Lois and Clark fanfic I'm >working on right now. It's a question about DNA. Can someone tell me what >states or do all states require babies to get DNA tests before, or after they >are born? As others have said, I don't believe any states require DNA tests for babies. In fact, I would be surprised if any did. DNA tests are an added cost, one I'm sure would never be approved by HMOs, Medicare, etc. Most mothers know who the father of their baby is, and genetic testing for disease, done before or after the baby is born, would be up to the parents (and affects relatively few families so would not be "cost effective"). >In this case the father was married to the mother and he thinks it >was his child, until way after it's been born. He finds out later it was not >his because the mother hid the DNA results from him. Does this make sense? >Meaning the child had a DNA test even though the supposed parents of the >child were married so the hospital and people around them automatically >assume the child is theres? Considering your scenario, perhaps the mother has an inkling that her husband is not the father, and she had the DNA test done without her husband's knowledge. This would only work, however, if she had the baby tested for compatibility with the non-husband perspective father. This is because, to do a paternity test, you must have the baby's and mother's DNA, as well as the DNA of at least one perspective father. (DNA tests can either exclude or include a man as the possible father.) I hope that helps, and that I didn't bore you all with unwanted DNA info. (I didn't see Alexis's personal email address on the message, so couldn't respond privately.) Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo