From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG0005B" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 03:44:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Chris Carr Subject: Re: Fanfic Recommendation: Learning Curves Wendy, Ann and Labrat: Thank you for the glowing recommendations for Learning Curves! Much appreciated, I assure you! >>On Sun, 7 May 2000 12:18:20 EDT, Ann E. McBride wrote: Is the version on the archive very different from the version that was on the message boards?<< Ann, no it isn't very different. I've made some very small tweaks and it has (obviously) been through the archive's editing process -- thanks Jeanne!! -- but I haven't made any significant changes. BTW, if anyone is / has been kind enough to send feedback to my virgin account, please don't expect a reply in the near future. My computer, along with about 99.9% of my possessions, is currently in storage as I'm in the process of moving house -- not an entirely straightforward process -- and I'm relying on the website to access the list. (The depiction of Lois and Clark's house hunting and moving in the show has to be the most unrealistic thing I've ever come across, even more unrealistic than the idea that a man can fly :)) If anyone does want to contact me, I can be reached at CCarr17@netscape.net Chris ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 04:13:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Question for a fic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, folks, two quick questions for you: In most workplaces in the U.S., could a person use sick days as vacation days? Let's say someone hasn't been sick and has accumulated a number of paid sick days. If he wants take a vacation, could he add those sick days to his vacation days to entend his time off? Would a college or university allow students to have a gas burner or hot plate in their dorm rooms? And if it wasn't permitted, would most students go ahead and do it anyway? :) Thanks, Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 06:22:11 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/08/2000 5:14:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL writes: << Would a college or university allow students to have a gas burner or hot plate in their dorm rooms? And if it wasn't permitted, would most students go ahead and do it anyway? :) >> No, they are generally not allowed. Yes, many would have a hot plate anyway but certainly not a gas burner! --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 05:59:27 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In most workplaces in the U.S., could a person use sick days as vacation > days? Let's say someone hasn't been sick and has accumulated a number of > paid sick days. If he wants take a vacation, could he add those sick days > to his vacation days to entend his time off? I know you can use sick days and vacation days both to supplement a maternity leave situation, but I think most places frown on you using sick days to extend a vacation. One place I worked said you weren't allowed to call in sick on the day immediately before or after a planned vacation, but it might just be that they wanted to know exactly when you'd be there. If you arranged for it in advance, it might be possible. If you want to do that, you could have your character talk to Human Resources ahead of time. -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" --Galaxy Quest ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 07:10:58 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/8/00 5:14:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL writes: << In most workplaces in the U.S., could a person use sick days as vacation days? Let's say someone hasn't been sick and has accumulated a number of paid sick days. If he wants take a vacation, could he add those sick days to his vacation days to entend his time off? Not anywhere that I'm aware of. In most workplaces in the US, taking all of one's sick days is generally frowned upon by management. This attitude tends to make a lot of people come to work sick, thereby infecting everyone else. Some companies do allow people a certain amount of money based on accumulated sick days -- when the employee retires. <> Many colleges would not permit such appliances, but if a student wanted a hot plate, they would bring it, but not a gas burner. I have a feeling that the cooking appliance of choice in dorm rooms these days is a small microwave oven. Maybe some of the college students on the list could confirm that. I know when I was in college, most of us cooked in popcorn poppers. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:35:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: Question for a fic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> >Many colleges would not permit such appliances, but if a student wanted a hot >plate, they would bring it, but not a gas burner. I have a feeling that the >cooking appliance of choice in dorm rooms these days is a small microwave >oven. Maybe some of the college students on the list could confirm that. My school may not be typical on these rules since we have had many fires which have destroyed several of our historic buildings. With that warning, we are allowed microwaves (one is built into my college-owned apartment). Microwaves are indeed the cooking implement of choice. I know that some schools have different microwave policies. At my brother's school microwaves are not allowed in dorm rooms. We are not allowed toasters, toaster ovens, hot plates, candles, etc. All are considered "fire hazards" because they contain open flames or coils. By gas burner, do you mean Bunsen burner? If so, I don't know anyone who has one, but if you wanted one, you could probably steal it fairly easy from the Chemistry dept. Here at Kenyon they do fire inspections a few times a semester. A fire inspection constitutes a Security officer and Housing worker walking through all dorm rooms and apartments, looking for contraband. They are allowed to look, but cannot open drawers or crawl under beds, etc. So if students have contraband, including a hot plate, and keep it hidden, no one will ever know. If they do find such items, however, the fines are hefty; $50/candle/room occupant, I believe. You can also get a "fire hazard" fine for not keeping your room clean enough. Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:15:24 +0900 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: dana Subject: OT: news MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit saw this in my email news and I thought it was interesting :) cerise *** Metropolis looking for its Superman METROPOLIS, Ill. (AP) - Wanted: tall, handsome, muscular man willing to wear tights in public. Ability to leap tall buildings a plus, but not required. The town of Metropolis - Illinois, that is - is seeking a Superman for its upcoming festival honoring the Man of Steel, but the big block of "kryptonite" parked downtown must be scaring the true Clark Kents away. In the list of applicants so far, big bellies and bald heads rule. "I think these guys must have forgotten what Superman looks like," said Jim Hambrick, co-chairman of the Superman search and owner of the Super Museum. Most of the applicants don't even come from Metropolis, which shares its name with the fictional city where the superhero regularly saved reporter Lois Lane for all sorts of catastrophes and evil-doers. See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2566309444-369 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:19:11 +0900 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: dana Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hazel, my mom got to do just that when she came to visit me after I had my baby. But it was at her boss' discretion. she works for an elementary school and had planned to take unpaid days off; her principal then offered to let her use her sick days. Unfortunately, that did use them all up for the year, and she's had to take the unpaid days when she's actually been sick. and about the dorm issue. when I lived in a college dorm we had a mini kitchen and had a stove, fridge, everything. my insane roommate did have a microwave too. When I lived in military barracks, which for some reason the air force calls dorms, we weren't allowed to have anything with an open heating element. But many did. I knew people who had bread machines, I had a popcorn popper, my friend had a toaster oven. You just had to remember to hide it so it didn't get seen by anyone doing an impromptu inspection. so there ya go, as usual it looks like you have free rein for whatever you want in your story :) take care cerise ----- Original Message ----- From: Hazel To: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 6:13 PM Subject: Question for a fic > Hi, folks, two quick questions for you: > > In most workplaces in the U.S., could a person use sick days as vacation > days? Let's say someone hasn't been sick and has accumulated a number of > paid sick days. If he wants take a vacation, could he add those sick days > to his vacation days to entend his time off? > > Would a college or university allow students to have a gas burner or hot > plate in their dorm rooms? And if it wasn't permitted, would most students > go ahead and do it anyway? :) > > Thanks, > > Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:29:27 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: The Games People Play Hey guys! The list has been kind of quiet lately, so I had kind of a thought... While trawling through the early archives of the list, I came across a post from one Beverley Lathem, which sparked off what looks to have been a fun game. (They called it Kathy's Challenge back then. Remember that one, Kathy? ;) Basically, someone posts an interesting feature out of a fanfic and the rest of the list has to guess which fanfic it came from. A Superman teddy for instance. Or horsechestnut oil (I have the feeling that the list was a tad more liberal in those days and that they included nfic too. We'll just stick strictly to gfic, hmmmmm? ) So, to start the ball rolling, for anyone interested in playing along, I'll start us off with an easy one: A pair of unicorns. Okay, guys, over to you, if you're keen... LabRat :) Space...is big. Really big. You just won't believe how vastly hugely mind- boggingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:37:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Labrat suggested we play "Kathy's Challenge." >Basically, someone posts an interesting feature out of a fanfic and the >rest of the list has to guess which fanfic it came from. A Superman teddy >for instance. > >So, to start the ball rolling, for anyone interested in playing along, I'll >start us off with an easy one: > >A pair of unicorns. > Oh, come now, that's easy... Jenni's "Universal Union!" How about this one? An ink spot. :) :) Hazel (who wonders if we're supposed to use spoiler space) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:42:10 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Labrat suggested we play "Kathy's Challenge." > How about this one? > > An ink spot. :) :) s p o i l e r s p a c e The only story I can think of here is Jane's Ink Marks The Spot - but wasn't that nfic? Wendy -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:49:28 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And since I couldn't resist... Blessed Spring Mineral Water, $9.89 a bottle. Wendy -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:08:14 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Looking for a Fanfic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for a fanfic I read a long time ago, but can't remember the title or the author. It has a similar theme as Debbie's Swapmeet wherein in involves Dean and Teri with Lois and Clark. What I remember of the story is that Tempus switches Clark and Dean. Clark is sent to our world and Dean is sent to Metropolis. Clark has to pose as an actor with Teri and Dean searches out and finds Lois to get her to help him get back to his world. I believe in the story it is before Lois knows that CK=S. Does anyone remember the title and/or author of this story and where I can find it. I want to read it again. Thanks. Melody ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:09:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: The Games People Play L A B R A T S C O O L S P O I L E R S P A C E On Mon, 8 May 2000 09:37:03 -0500, Hazel wrote: >Oh, come now, that's easy... Jenni's "Universal Union!" Well, yeah, but I'm way behind in my fanfic reading and it was the best I could come up with on the spur of the moment. Curiously enough, I seem to be able to think of a dozen nfic examples, but no gfic. And yes...The Lurker, Sue, Wendy and Hazel all get 10 points for a correct answer. ;) Next! Oh, there you are. > >How about this one? > >An ink spot. :) :) > >Hazel > >(who wonders if we're supposed to use spoiler space) Can do. Although one item probably wouldn't spoil a plot. Better to be safe than sorry though and besides it doesn't advertise the answer to those who still want to play. And even easier - Jane's Ink Marks The Spot, methinks. Wendy, I think there's a gfic version, isn't there? Either that or we're dealing here with evil clone Hazel, because the Hazel I know wouldn't know the contents of Jane's nfic. ;) LabRat :) [stocking up on garlic and stakes, just in case. ] ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:09:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <017601bfb8fc$9c681740$096105a0@hrm.keele.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wendy wrote: >And since I couldn't resist... Blessed Spring Mineral Water, $9.89 a bottle. Now, Wendy, I know it's a long story, but we don't need two hints for it! :) Hazel, online for the moment ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:13:14 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Labrat suggested: >L >A >B >R >A >T >S > >C >O >O >L > >S >P >O >I >L >E >R > >S >P >A >C >E > >Next! Oh, there you are. > >> >>How about this one? >> >>An ink spot. :) :) >> >>Hazel >> >>(who wonders if we're supposed to use spoiler space) > >Can do. Although one item probably wouldn't spoil a plot. Better to be safe >than sorry though and besides it doesn't advertise the answer to those who >still want to play. And even easier - Jane's Ink Marks The Spot, methinks. > >Wendy, I think there's a gfic version, isn't there? Either that or we're >dealing here with evil clone Hazel, because the Hazel I know wouldn't know >the contents of Jane's nfic. ;) > >LabRat :) [stocking up on garlic and stakes, just in case. ] > Not to worry, Labrat, because you're wrong :p :p Sheesh. Her own story, and she doesn't even recognize it... Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:14:50 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: Looking for a Fanfic On Mon, 8 May 2000 11:08:14 EDT, No Name Available wrote: >I am looking for a fanfic I read a long time ago, but can't remember the >title or the author. It has a similar theme as Debbie's Swapmeet wherein in >involves Dean and Teri with Lois and Clark. > >What I remember of the story is that Tempus switches Clark and Dean. Clark >is sent to our world and Dean is sent to Metropolis. Clark has to pose as an >actor with Teri and Dean searches out and finds Lois to get her to help him >get back to his world. I believe in the story it is before Lois knows that >CK=S. > >Does anyone remember the title and/or author of this story and where I can >find it. I want to read it again. > > Melody, I have it listed in my files as "The Chicken or the Egg" by Jenny Stosser. Just checked the Archive and it's there. Winner of a Kerth award for 1998 too. Well deserved, nice little fic that one. Enjoy! LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:18:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: The Games People Play On Mon, 8 May 2000 10:13:14 -0500, Hazel wrote: >>L >>A >>B >>R >>A >>T >>S >> >>C >>O >>O >>L >> >>S >>P >>O >>I >>L >>E >>R >> >>S >>P >>A >>C >>E >> >>Next! Oh, there you are. >> >>> >>>How about this one? >>> >>>An ink spot. :) :) >>> >>>Hazel >>> >>Wendy, I think there's a gfic version, isn't there? Either that or we're >>dealing here with evil clone Hazel, because the Hazel I know wouldn't know >>the contents of Jane's nfic. ;) >> >>LabRat :) [stocking up on garlic and stakes, just in case. ] >> > >Not to worry, Labrat, because you're wrong :p :p > >Sheesh. Her own story, and she doesn't even recognize it... > >Hazel Um...no, Hazel. I was playing the ink spot not the mineral water. And responding to Wendy's *other* post where she questioned if Jane's fic was nfic. I missed out her game entirely, being as it was completely way too easy for me. ;) LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:27:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Doh! L A B R A T S C O O L S P O I L E R S P A C E Okay, okay...before you start, Hazel - ROTFLMAO! It's just clicked. Ahem...okay, I plead that it's hot in here and my brain's starved of oxygen because I haven't had anything to eat yet and it's almost five pm and there's lots of hammering going on where Stuart is redesigning the bathroom, which is really, really bad for the cognitive process and Max doesn't like the hammering and is moping around whinging about it, which is even less good for the cognitive process and... ....is any of this working as an excuse, you think? LabRat :) (who still took five minutes to figure out it was CF, even *after* she figured out that Hazel meant it was one of my fic in her post. ) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 08:31:30 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy Richards wrote: > And since I couldn't resist... Blessed Spring Mineral Water, $9.89 a bottle. > > Wendy > -------------------------- > Wendy Richards > w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk S P O I L E R S P A C E Caped Fear, by LabRat. Nan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:34:41 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/08/2000 4:14:39 AM US Eastern Standard Time, zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL writes: << Would a college or university allow students to have a gas burner or hot plate in their dorm rooms? And if it wasn't permitted, would most students go ahead and do it anyway? :) >> you've got to be kidding! I got in trouble for my halegen lamp! there's no way on earth we'd be allowed to have a hot plate! (however, they still havent found my coffee pot, hot plate, toaster oven, or my toaster ... you just need to know how to hide things... oh and when you set the fire alarm off, just pull out a curling iron and hide the hot plate! (it also helps to be friends with the RA's) Alicia ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:38:16 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/08/2000 8:36:24 AM US Eastern Standard Time, kubitc@KENYON.EDU writes: << At my brother's school microwaves are not allowed in dorm rooms. >> Christy's brother and i go to the same school... microwaves are a definate NO NO here... there is one microwave and one stove on the first floor of our dorms (and I lived on the 9th floor my freshman year!).... however, if you live with an RA or an LA (like I am next year) you get a microwave/fridge combo... i dont know i guess they think residence life people are just more responsible than we are Alicia ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:44:13 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/8/00 6:11:26 AM EST, Aerm1@AOL.COM writes: << Many colleges would not permit such appliances, but if a student wanted a hot plate, they would bring it, but not a gas burner. I have a feeling that the cooking appliance of choice in dorm rooms these days is a small microwave oven. Maybe some of the college students on the list could confirm that. I know when I was in college, most of us cooked in popcorn poppers. Ann >> In some colleges (at least the one I've been at) they actually have a microwave built into the dorm for you. Speaking of colleges, I got some good news! My hard work has paid off! My university is letting me come back in the fall, YAY!!!! Now I can convert more people to Lois and Clark! hehe ;) Alexis ;-.) "And another thing. You're not working with me, you're working for me. I call the shots. I ask the questions. You're low man. I'm top banana. That's the way I like it? Comprende?" (Lois) "You like to be on top. Got it." (Clark Kent) "Don't push me, Kent. You are way out of your league." (Lois) {LnC, Pilot} ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 10:50:53 -0500 Reply-To: bbmedos@booksanctuary.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "B. B. Medos" Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: Lab Rat wrote: << While trawling through the early archives of the list, I came across a post from one Beverley Lathem, which sparked off what looks to have been a fun game. (They called it Kathy's Challenge back then. Remember that one, Kathy? ;) >>> And that was because a certain Kathy always knew the answers whenever somebody couldn't find a fanfic, so we decided to test her powers, er, knowledge. She did pretty good, too. It really was amazing how many she knew that no one else recognized. << Basically, someone posts an interesting feature out of a fanfic and the rest of the list has to guess which fanfic it came from. A Superman teddy for instance. Or horse chestnut oil (I have the feeling that the list was a tad more liberal in those days and that they included nfic too. We'll just stick strictly to gfic, hmmmmm? ) >> Umm, don't know anything about the horse chestnut oil (although for some reason it does sound familiar?), but the Superman teddy reference was definitely regular fic. At least, the last time I checked it still was. Of course, we can't do anything about the reader's own imagination filling in the blanks, now can we? << So, to start the ball rolling, for anyone interested in playing along, I'll start us off with an easy one: A pair of unicorns. >> Don't know this one either, but I do admit to being rather curious about a reference to a "pair" of unicorns. Talk about the old imagination going into overdrive. Beverly :-) bbmedos@booksanctuary.com http://www.booksanctuary.com Co-Admin: Romance Books & Readers discussion list http://www.writerspace.com/mailinglist.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 11:36:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Felix E. Sung" Subject: NEW: John and Lois and Clark and Joan (10/?) (John & Lois & Clark & Joan, Part 10) [Somewhere in the Streets of Metropolis] It was a dark and stormy night. Clark was walking towards his hotel room, and he paid no attention to the fact that the rain was soaking his clothes. He guessed it was one of the advantages of being different, that he could never catch a cold. Clark had been walking for hours, not really caring where he was going. All he knew was that he was sad, and he needed some time alone to think. His wondering around had taken him to various places in the city, whether it was the through the industrial areas, the suburbs, or the red-light district. (He had ended up at the latter completely by accident.) It was the walks through the residential areas, however, that proved most interesting. He had walked thought those areas earlier in the evening, when people were still awake, yet relaxing after a day of work. On one such street was a row of townhouses, each with steps to the front door. Every house Clark had passed, he had glanced through a lit window on the ground floor. He had always seen people through the windows. The people had been doing different things, but there was something similar about all of them. He had seen a man and a woman sharing a candlelight dinner. He had seen a man and a woman sitting on a sofa in the living room, watching TV. He had seen a man and a woman playing Mozart on the piano together. He had even seen a man and a woman making out on a couch -- Clark had to walk more quickly than usual to pass that house. By now Clark reached the street where his hotel was, and he stopped. Did he really see what he had seen, or was it a series of hallucinations? Regardless of whether or not the images were real, Clark knew that they were pictures of what he wanted in life. He wanted to find a woman with whom he could share a romantic candlelight dinner. He wanted to find a woman with whom he could cuddle while they watched the evening news. He wanted to find a woman with whom he could play musical duets -- he could get by on the piano. He also wanted to find a woman with whom he could make love all night... with the window curtains drawn, of course. The vignettes that had been presented to Clark while he had been walking by the townhouses had saddened him. Would he ever find a woman to share everything with? *Could* he ever find such a woman? Those scenes portrayed people doing normal things, and it was especially important for Clark, who always wanted to be normal, despite his powers. Usually he tried not to let these scenes affect him, but something about them on this night, these scenes of love, which touched him to the core. Clark resumed walking, and within a few seconds he reached the entrance to the hotel. Passing through the small corridor, he noticed that someone was in the lobby. He looked closer, and found that it was Lois. Lois? What was she doing here? Especially at this time of night? He noticed the wet hair, the clothes that were soaked. This must have meant that she had come in not too long ago. Then she began to speak, with determination and animation. Clark wasn't really paying attention to what she was saying, because her facial expressions told her the same thing. The raindrops that had sprinkled her face moments ago were now replaced by her tears. She was pleading for him not to leave her, giving reasons why he couldn't, and showing him how it would affect her. Then she stopped talking, and in one, two, three steps, Lois came up to him, threw her arms around his neck, and kissed him with such intensity that it left Clark momentarily breathless. The kisses were full of love, full of promise, and Clark could do nothing but kiss her back with such passion that he had never known existed. Lightening painted the sky, and thunder played on like kettledrums in Beethoven's 'Pastoral' Symphony, but inside the lobby of Hotel Apollo was a storm of a different nature, a storm that was finally out in the open after so long. Steam rose from their bodies as they continued kissing, oblivious to everything around them. Lightening struck, the thunder roared again, and... ... the alarm clock went off. Disoriented, Clark reached out to hit the snooze button. Too late, his hand slammed down and broke the alarm clock into small pieces. He let out a loud groan. That was the third time already that he had broken his alarm clock. Next time he should consider moving it to the other side of the room where he wouldn't be able to reach it. He sat up, and then floated a couple of feet above the bed. He now knew that he was dreaming before. And what a dream! Never had he had a dream that was so vivid, so real. He could remember everything, the endless walking down the city streets, the rain pattering on his back, the kiss... The kiss... that was the most disturbing part of Clark's dream. He and Lois had agreed last night that the kiss at the White Orchid Ball was wrong. He and Lois had decided not to do that again. Yet here he was, dreaming about it. Was this dream telling him something? Or was this a fantasy of his, something that he had never really had before. He glanced downwards, realizing that the kiss was still affecting him physically. Blushing furiously, he floated to the floor and walked towards the bathroom. A very cold shower would be a good idea right now. * * * * * * * * It wasn't until Clark finished his shower that the events of the previous evening came roaring back. After the 'talk,' Lois had decided to visit Dr. Platt again. What they had not expected to find was water all over the floor and Dr. Platt electrocuted. Clark had been totally despondent, and had been riddled with guilt, while the police had come and gone. Dr. Platt's death had been ruled a suicide, much to his and Lois' disbelief. And when one of the police officers had the gall to make a joke about the situation, it was just too much. Clark glanced at his watch on the table. 8:37 A.M. Lois was coming to pick him up at nine. There was enough time for a quick phone call. He really didn't want to call Joan in the morning, even though it was almost nine, when most of Metropolis was up and about. She was still sick with the flu, and she needed her rest. But, he hadn't spoken to her since Thursday night, before the ball. He knew very well why. He grabbed a quarter from the pile of change on the table and put it in the phone slot. "Hello?" said a groggy sounding Joan. "Joan, it's me." "Hey stranger," she greeted him softly. "Long time no hear." "Yeah, I've been busy," Clark said. Well, that much was true. "Something happened last night..." Right then Joan knew that something was wrong. She listened as Clark told her about the manhole incident and the death of Dr. Samuel Platt. "Why do you think it's your fault?" Joan asked, when Clark had finished. "I should've known. I should have protected him," he insisted. "How?" "I don't know, but I should have done something," he said helplessly. "Sometimes there's nothing that you can do," Joan said gently. "If you could've helped him, you would have. You are only one man, Clark, and you can't be everywhere at once to use your powers." Clark sighed. Of course Joan was right, but it did not make Dr. Platt's death any easier to deal with. "Speaking of powers," she continued, "saving that worker trapped in the manhole was very risky. What would have happened if anyone saw you?" "I don't think anyone did, but you're right. I was yards away when he pointed to me. I'm sure nobody believed him, but..." "I know, Clark, you couldn't let the man die," Joan finished, and then sneezed. "You know, Clark, I think you need to seriously address this issue. It's obvious you want to help people, but you don't want them to know that it was Clark Kent making the rescues." Suddenly an idea appeared to her. "That's it! I have an idea. Maybe it's crazy, but anyway, how about you wearing an outfit?" Clark wasn't sure he had heard her correctly. "Outfit?" he repeated. "Yeah, you know, like a disguise! You could wear it when things like that explosion happen," Joan explained. "Oh, this sounds really good! Ask your mom; see if her sewing machine's still working. She could probably make you a good outfit. I would, but I'm afraid I'm not good at that sort of thing." She laughed quietly, and then coughed loudly. Clark smiled into the phone. Joan was *really* resourceful. He was lucky that she had came into his life. But then he thought about Lois and felt total dispair. He should tell Joan now, tell her everything. "Joan," he started, "I have to tell you something..." "What is it, Clark?" she asked expectantly. But of course Clark couldn't do tell her about what he had done. Not on the phone -- it would be very cowardly. And not while she was till sick -- that would be like rubbing salt into her wounds. "I... I, um, think you're brilliant. Your idea sounds brilliant." 'Coward.' There was a short pause, but then Joan responded, "Thank you, Clark. I try." She sounded a little confused. "Listen," she said softly, "why don't you come over tonight? I haven't seen you since Wednesday you know." Clark grimaced. Yes, he hadn't seen her since Wednesday. And yes, that was an excellent idea. He would go see her tonight, and tell her. He really shouldn't let the fact that Joan was sick affect his decision -- to delay telling her would only hurt her more. "That's a great idea, Joan. I..." Clark was interrupted by a knock on his door. "Oh, Joan, I gotta go, Lois is here." "Lois?" Joan asked, sounding very curious. "Yeah, she wants me to work on the Messenger story today, even though it's Saturday," Clark explained, hoping that Joan wouldn't at the moment read anything more into it. "Okay," Joan said simply. "Go get the people responsible, okay? I'll see you later." "Right, see you." As Clark hung up, there was another knock on his door. Hurredly, Clark went to the door, grabbing his glasses along the way. He opened the door quickly, forgetting about his appearance. Lois took one look at Clark and gulped. * * * * * * * * ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:13:34 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: NEW: John and Lois and Clark and Joan (10/?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I love this story! S P O I L E R S P A C E ----- Original Message ----- From: Felix E. Sung To: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 9:36 AM Subject: NEW: John and Lois and Clark and Joan (10/?) He > opened the door quickly, forgetting about his appearance. > > Lois took one look at Clark and gulped. > > * * * * * * * * > LOL! Shades of the pilot! Tara ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:25:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, now that Labrat has cleared up that yes, it is the real me... :) :) I thought I'd throw a few more into the mix for you. Let's see now. Please identify the title and author of the fic containing: -- A book called "All Things Yuk" -- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman -- Two wedding rings melted together -- A very long, multicolored scarf -- A bag of pastries called "butteries" -- A catalytic converter Please note that these are six separate fics, not one. ;) Enjoy! Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:27:04 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: Question for a fic In-Reply-To: <6.5a8170c.2647ef53@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wow. As usual, you all come through for me beautifully! Looks like Clark can refer to other students having hot plates in their rooms at college, and can figure out some way to use his sick days towards his honeymoon. :) Many thanks, Hazel (who warns you that the fic in question prolly isn't what you think it is) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:29:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii S P O I L E R S P A C E Okay, Hazel, I'll give this a shot. > > I thought I'd throw a few more into the mix for you. > > Let's see now. Please identify the title and author > of the fic containing: > > -- A book called "All Things Yuk" Don't know. > > -- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman I should abstain but it's Solar Eclipse by me! > > -- Two wedding rings melted together The End of the Beginning by Trevise > > -- A very long, multicolored scarf Okay, I'm doing this without referring to the archive, but I think it's called 'Lois and Clark in the East End'?? by Wendy Richards - hi, Wendy! > > -- A bag of pastries called "butteries" Fear of Discovery Part 2 by Yvonne Connell > > -- A catalytic converter Burnout by Doc Klein's Labrat?? Irene ===== "All writing is essentially bricks of plagarism secured in place by the mortar of original thinking." --William Dukane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:37:09 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, I'll give this a shot! S P O I L E R S P A C E ----- Original Message ----- From: Hazel To: Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 1:25 PM Subject: Re: The Games People Play > Okay, now that Labrat has cleared up that yes, it is the real me... :) :) > > I thought I'd throw a few more into the mix for you. > > Let's see now. Please identify the title and author of the fic containing: > > -- A book called "All Things Yuk" No idea > > -- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman One of Irene's stories > > -- Two wedding rings melted together No idea > > -- A very long, multicolored scarf At Wit's End in The East End--Wendy Richards? > > -- A bag of pastries called "butteries" No idea > > -- A catalytic converter This is from Nan's Countdown > > Please note that these are six separate fics, not one. ;) > > Enjoy! > > Hazel > ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 15:38:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, let's see... > Let's see now. Please identify the title and author of the fic containing: > > -- A book called "All Things Yuk" Don't know that one offhand... unless it's the second one by Kathryn Ann Kent... can't remember the title. Is this an open book (archive) test? :) > -- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman Solar Eclipse, by Irene D > -- Two wedding rings melted together not ringing any bells... I'm desperately curious about it! > -- A very long, multicolored scarf Sounds like Wendy's L&C/Dr. Who/Eastenders crossover :) > -- A bag of pastries called "butteries" Fear of Discovery 2, by Yvonne :) > -- A catalytic converter This one's by Nan but she changed the title and I can't remember the new one... Countdown?? Not a perfect score, but not bad I hope!! -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:27:11 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Lorie Y. Crisp" Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/08/2000 4:14:39 AM Central Daylight Time, zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL writes: << In most workplaces in the U.S., could a person use sick days as vacation days? Let's say someone hasn't been sick and has accumulated a number of paid sick days. If he wants take a vacation, could he add those sick days to his vacation days to entend his time off? >> At my place of work (a hospital) We don't have "sick time" or "vacation time" per se. We all accrue PTO (paid time off...of which i have 130 hours worth) each pay period. We use this PTO "bank" for sick time, vacations, etc. For instance, if we're sick and call in for 8 hours, we use 8 hours of our PTO. If we wanna go on vacation, we use our PTO, and it's all substracted from our accrued hours........ As for the hot plate question thingy, yeah, most college kids would have that in their rooms anyway.....most of 'em that age think they're invulnerable (hope that's not foreshadowing in anyway) and think "oh no, MY hot plate won't start a fire..." ANYWAY.................. SuperLorie :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:21:02 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Question for a fic On Mon, 8 May 2000 15:27:04 -0500, Hazel wrote: >Hazel > >(who warns you that the fic in question prolly isn't what you think it is) Ah, Hazel, but is it what I think it is? (CPOV, that is?) If so... great! I've been waiting for you to post more of that! Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 17:30:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: The Games People Play On Mon, 8 May 2000 15:25:12 -0500, Hazel wrote: >I thought I'd throw a few more into the mix for you. Ah, I know a few of these!! s p o i l e r s p a c e >-- A book called "All Things Yuk" No idea - how intriguing! >-- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman Now, this is one of Irene's excellent nextgen series - Jon's story, Solar Eclipse, by Irene Dutchak. >-- Two wedding rings melted together Yeah; part of the (unfinished!) Awakenings series by Trevise, The End of the Beginning. >-- A very long, multicolored scarf Wild guess here - At Wit's End in the East End... um, do I *have* to name the author?! Can't I just name the chief guest villain instead? > >-- A bag of pastries called "butteries" Aha! Easy! Fear of Discovery II: Nowhere to Hide, by Yvonne Connell (and Part III, currently being posted on the MBs, is brilliant!). >-- A catalytic converter This is a Nan fic... yes, Countdown, by Nan Smith. So how'd I do, Hazel? Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:51:28 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny or Joe Stosser Subject: Re: Looking for a Fanfic In-Reply-To: <5f.4e614d5.2648325e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Ooh! ooh! that's my Story! What wonderful FDK it is to learn of someone who not only remembers the plot of my story, but wants to read it again! It's called ...the Chicken or the Egg and is on the fanfic archive, or available on my website http://www.geocities.com/j_stosser/chickegg/prol1.html or in word or .txt format by email from me. Jen PS Please note my new email address: jenerator@free.net.au At 11:08 AM 08/05/2000 -0400, No Name Available wrote: >I am looking for a fanfic I read a long time ago, but can't remember the >title or the author. It has a similar theme as Debbie's Swapmeet wherein in >involves Dean and Teri with Lois and Clark. > >What I remember of the story is that Tempus switches Clark and Dean. Clark >is sent to our world and Dean is sent to Metropolis. Clark has to pose as an >actor with Teri and Dean searches out and finds Lois to get her to help him >get back to his world. I believe in the story it is before Lois knows that >CK=S. > >Does anyone remember the title and/or author of this story and where I can >find it. I want to read it again. > >Thanks. >Melody jenerator@free.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 18:53:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: Question for a fic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thinking more about the hot plate question, I don't actually know anyone who has a hot plate in their room, probably because I also can't really think of anything one would make with a hot plate that couldn't be made with a microwave. Unless you're fic's referring to a time before microwaves were common... >As for the hot plate question thingy, yeah, most college kids would have that >in their rooms anyway.....most of 'em that age think they're invulnerable >(hope that's not foreshadowing in anyway) and think "oh no, MY hot plate >won't start a fire..." As I said earlier, most students do have some contraband in their rooms. It's hard not to; here it's against the rules to store things in cardboard boxes for the so-called fire hazard it creates. However, no students I know break the rules because of a feeling of invulnerability. In my four years at Kenyon, we have had 5 students die, including 1 in January, on a ride back to campus after a swim meet in a college-owned van. I think most students who have such contraband in their rooms do so with trepidation, and are careful, for example, never to leave a candle burning in an unoccupied room. We as a campus have been reminded too often of our vulnerability. Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:46:40 +0100 Reply-To: "yconnell@ukf.net" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: yconnell Subject: Re: Fanfic Recommendation: Learning Curves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just popping in for a quick 'me too'. It's a wonderful story in every way, and definitely a 'must read'. Yvonne (yconnell@ukf.net) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:03:27 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny or Joe Stosser Subject: Re: Looking for a Fanfic In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 10:14 AM 08/05/2000 -0500, SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat wrote: >Melody, I have it listed in my files as "The Chicken or the Egg" by Jenny >Stosser. Just checked the Archive and it's there. Winner of a Kerth award >for 1998 too. Well deserved, nice little fic that one. Enjoy! > >LabRat :) Thanks for the mammaries ... and I WISH I'd garnered a Kerth that year. Just a nomination though But this FDK at this late stage is worth any Kerth award, lemme tell ya! Jen jenerator@free.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 00:07:48 +0100 Reply-To: "yconnell@ukf.net" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: yconnell Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oooh, I love games :) Here goes... S P O I L E R S P A C E I'm ashamed to say I only know two of these. I'm trying to do better this year with my reading! > -- A book called "All Things Yuk" > Great title, but no idea where it comes from. > -- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman > No idea, but did Martha paint it? > -- Two wedding rings melted together Sounds ominous! > > -- A very long, multicolored scarf > Ah, ha! At last one I know - knitted one myself when I was a teenager at school, and I've got a very, very scary photo of me wearing it, together with my duffel coat and a very severe haircut! This is a Dr Who scarf, as worn by the Time Lord himself in 'At Wit's End in the East End' by Wendy Richards - featuring our own engineering consultant to Folcs everywhere, Phil Atcliffe. > -- A bag of pastries called "butteries" > Erm...me ;) Fear of Discovery 2. And I've run out of them in my freezer and consequently suffering withdrawal symptoms...I need another trip home to collect some more! > -- A catalytic converter > Pass ;) Well, I enjoyed, Hazel, even if I was hopeless at it Yvonne (yconnell@ukf.net) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:11:16 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny or Joe Stosser Subject: Re: Question for a fic In-Reply-To: <42.52868a8.26483968@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed What is an RA and/or an LA? Jen At 11:38 AM 08/05/2000 -0400, Alicia Utowski wrote: >In a message dated 05/08/2000 8:36:24 AM US Eastern Standard Time, >kubitc@KENYON.EDU writes: > ><< At my brother's school microwaves are not > allowed in dorm rooms. >> >Christy's brother and i go to the same school... microwaves are a definate NO >NO here... there is one microwave and one stove on the first floor of our >dorms (and I lived on the 9th floor my freshman year!).... however, if you >live with an RA or an LA (like I am next year) you get a microwave/fridge >combo... i dont know i guess they think residence life people are just more >responsible than we are > >Alicia jenerator@free.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:21:28 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny or Joe Stosser Subject: great sig file from Pam J In-Reply-To: <391717AE.48E430D9@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed What a cool sigfile/quote. What would any of us do if we ended up having a similar conversation with Dean or Teri? Jen At 03:38 PM 08/05/2000 -0400, Pam Jernigan wrote: >Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net >http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam > >Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, >right? You asked all these little technical questions >about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." >Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually >wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought >a lot about what you said." >J: "It's okay. Listen." >B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete >brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's >just a TV show." >J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." >B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" jenerator@free.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:32:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Terry S. Horowit" Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000508232350.00908780@actcom.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OK, I'll play: S P O I L E R S P A C E >Let's see now. Please identify the title and author of the fic containing: > >-- A book called "All Things Yuk" "48 Hours Without a Superman" by Kathryn Ann Kent > >-- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman "Solar Eclipse" by Irene Dutchak > >-- Two wedding rings melted together "The End of the Beginning" by Trevise > >-- A very long, multicolored scarf "At Wit's End in the East End" by Wendy Richards (I think) > >-- A bag of pastries called "butteries" "Fear of Discovery II" by Yvonne Connell > >-- A catalytic converter Phooey. Can't think of a specific story with this... Terry Horowit ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:49:19 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Roseann Buonadies Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/8/2000 5:14:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL writes: << In most workplaces in the U.S., could a person use sick days as vacation days? Let's say someone hasn't been sick and has accumulated a number of paid sick days. If he wants take a vacation, could he add those sick days to his vacation days to entend his time off?>> Hazel, it depends on the company's policy. In my place (an insurance company) I don't get a set number of sick days -- I get a range of days that I could use as "sick days" before I fall into the "unsatisfactory" category in attendance, which uses a 12 month look back formula. In addition, based on my years of service, I have accumulated a certain amount of "leave" time for a god-forbid serious illness (6 months, actually). However, when my father worked at Colgate Palmolive, he could accumulate his sick time and carry it over from year to year. But he was in the union and I'm not. << Would a college or university allow students to have a gas burner or hot plate in their dorm rooms? And if it wasn't permitted, would most students go ahead and do it anyway? :) >> Well, my niece is a junior at Stonehill University and her dorm does not allow hot plates in the rooms. They have kitchen facilities on the floor, however. Hope this helps. Roseann ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 20:09:12 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <017601bfb8fc$9c681740$096105a0@hrm.keele.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" s p o i l e r s p a c e Labbie's Caped Fear Gimme a bit to come up with something... Melisma At 03:49 PM 08/05/2000 +0100, you wrote: >And since I couldn't resist... Blessed Spring Mineral Water, $9.89 a bottle. > > >Wendy >-------------------------- >Wendy Richards >w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk > > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 03:52:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000508232350.00908780@actcom.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I *refuse* to let this turn into the Kerth quizzes, but for the time being, it's just fun. ;) Here are the answers to the previous set: >Let's see now. Please identify the title and author of the fic containing: > >-- A book called "All Things Yuk" 48 Hours Without a Superman, by Kathryn Ann Kent >-- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman Solar Eclipse, by Irene Dutchak >-- Two wedding rings melted together The End of the Beginning, by Trevise >-- A very long, multicolored scarf At Wit's End at the East End, by Wendy Richards, including a cameo by Mad Professor Phil :) >-- A bag of pastries called "butteries" Fear of Discovery 2: Nowhere to Hide, by Yvonne Connell >-- A catalytic converter Countdown, by Nan Smith Labbie seems to feel these are ten pointers, so... Irene gets 40 points, Tara gets 25 points, Pam gets 45 points, Wendy gets 50 points, Terry gets 50 pionts, and Yvonne gets 20 points -- Yvonne, the abstract is painted by Jonathan Kent, strangely enough, not Martha. ;p Don't worry though, it's the grandson! Please note that I wasn't picky about exact titles and such, but I think it *would* be more fun if we worked only from memory without checking the archive or our hard drives. This is a game, not a quiz. :) Okay, here's a few more for you: -- a bent magic wand -- Frangos -- a silver picture frame -- graffiti burned into a cell wall -- a helicopter struck by lightning -- liquid green Kryptonite These are all stories uploaded to the archive this year, so hopefully (for those of you who are caught up in their reading, that is) they shouldn't be too hard to remember. Enjoy! Hazel (who again thanks all those who answered the questions re hot plates and sick leave... but Wendy, this was just working on what's already written, sorry!) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 12:00:40 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hazel wrote: > Okay, here's a few more for you: s p o i l e r s p a c e > > -- a bent magic wand No idea! > -- Frangos Labo(ur) Day, by the IRC Round Robin; this was in the epilogue which Zoom added later ;) > -- a silver picture frame I know it, I know it! It's the one where Lois and Clark buy each other the same Christmas present... yes, it's Kristin's Presents! > -- graffiti burned into a cell wall LOL!! Okay, I didn't expect this! So Strong A Foundation, by... me :blush Hey, Hazel, how about extra points for anyone who can remember what it said? (and I'm disqualifying myself here!) > -- a helicopter struck by lightning Ah! Life in a Different World 3 (Pygmalion), by Ms Moby, otherwise known as Mobile Richard. > -- liquid green Kryptonite Aaarrgghh!! Ummm... Alicia's Trials of the Heart? Or Nan's Blind Man's Buff? Sorry, I know they both used unusual variants of Kryptonite! > (but Wendy, this was just working on what's already written, sorry!) Shame!! You can't keep us waiting for ever, you know! Wendy -------------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 06:20:25 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: Looking for a Fanfic On Tue, 9 May 2000 09:03:27 +1000, Jenny or Joe Stosser wrote: >>Thanks for the mammaries ... and I WISH I'd garnered a Kerth that >year. Just a nomination though >But this FDK at this late stage is worth any Kerth award, lemme tell ya! > >Jen > Good Grief. You know I checked that twice before I posted to be sure I had the correct info and until you mentioned it would have sworn on Clark's life I saw a winner's icon. Must have been hotter in here than I thought yesterday. Or maybe I really, really like that fic of yours, Jenny. ;) Certainly deserved an award. :) Thanks for the correction. LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:19:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kasspur Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit s p o i l e r s p a c e well, the only one i know is the liquid green Kryptonite- it was specifically used in Kent Lost and Found by Shelly :) great story btw :) Kara ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:23:31 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/9/00 7:03:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jenerator@FREE.NET.AU writes: << What is an RA and/or an LA? >> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:27:05 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/9/00 7:03:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jenerator@FREE.NET.AU writes: << What is an RA and/or an LA? >> An RA is a "Residence Assistant." They are usually upperclassmen and women in a college who work for the college as supervisors in dormitories. Graduate students are also RAs at schools with grad programs. They take the place of housemothers. RAs are in charge of enforcing the rules and also of being there for students in emergencies. In a freshman dorm they would probably have to deal with homesickness. I have no idea what an LA is. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:14:03 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny or Joe Stosser Subject: Re: Question for a fic In-Reply-To: <1e.4fab945.26494f33@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 07:23 AM 09/05/2000 -0400, Ann E. McBride wrote: >In a message dated 5/9/00 7:03:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >jenerator@FREE.NET.AU writes: > ><< What is an RA and/or an LA? >> And The Answer Is...? jenerator@free.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 07:31:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <001301bfb9a8$774ad360$f8ae99ce@swva.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kasspur wrote: >well, the only one i know is the liquid green Kryptonite- it was >specifically used in Kent Lost and Found by Shelly :) Yes, that story is a fun one, Kara, but I did specify that all the stories have hit the archive this year. Since "Kent Lost and Found" was sumitted in '97, it doesn't qualify. You're welcome to try again, though. :) Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:29:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Games - LabRat's Game Okay, how about: A bowl of chocolate custard A book by Nancy Friday A gleaming black ballpoint pen with an oversized barrel A pair of sneakers, coloured red Wires wrapped in green tissue paper Not to be found anywhere in particular, just a few that occurred from some of my favourite fic of recent times. Any year, anywhere, archive or not...go for it. ;) LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:10:15 GMT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bethy Em Subject: Re: Games - LabRat's Game Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Okay, I'm gonna give this a try. S P O I L E R S P A C E A bowl of chocolate custard -- no idea. A book by Nancy Friday -- The Penfriend by Wendy Richards (I'm sure of the title, almost sure of the author) A gleaming black ballpoint pen with an oversized barrel -- Timeless by Becky Bain? (Not sure, but I think so) A pair of sneakers, coloured red -- no idea. Wires wrapped in green tissue paper -- no idea. Guess I'm gonna have to catch up on my reading! Bethy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:23:14 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Clark's powers - fanfic question Hey there! Just a quick question, please. I remember what was said in the show about Clark not flying until he was in his late teens and Martha telling Lois that his powers first manifested when he was...fourteen? Around about there anyway. But, what I need to know is, was anything ever said on the show about when he became invulnerable? I have the feeling that that happened at a young age, but I have no idea if that's canon or comics or if I've picked it up in fanfic. So, if anyone can clarify, please? Thanks! LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:06:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Back again... Sorry...I should do all of my writing, jot down the question as they occur and then post to the list. Anyway, I'm looking for the name of a high class department store in the US. Is Macy's still around? I have a famous name on the tip of my tongue, but I'm dashed if I can think of what it is. Anyway, somewhere that would have a cosmetics department that would issue makeover vouchers. Said vouchers considered to be a real treat - very expensive, something you couldn't easily afford to do every day. And, obviously, big enough that it would have branches everywhere. Okay, you're safe now. I'm closing down the Lonesome file and heading downstairs for tea. ;) Thanks! LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:12:13 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: TA Merrill Subject: Re: Back again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Labrat! Is Nieman Marcus what you're thinking of? And while I have your attention: Where's "Second Degree Burns?????" TerriAnn --- SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat wrote: > Sorry...I should do all of my writing, jot down the question as they > occur > and then post to the list. > > > Anyway, I'm looking for the name of a high class department store in > the > US. Is Macy's still around? I have a famous name on the tip of my > tongue, > but I'm dashed if I can think of what it is. Anyway, somewhere that > would > have a cosmetics department that would issue makeover vouchers. Said > vouchers considered to be a real treat - very expensive, something > you > couldn't easily afford to do every day. And, obviously, big enough > that it > would have branches everywhere. > > Okay, you're safe now. I'm closing down the Lonesome file and heading > downstairs for tea. ;) > > Thanks! > > LabRat :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 08:15:28 -0700 Reply-To: creolel@ca.freei.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lori Llorence Subject: Re: Back again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I am over here in California, and some fancy high class department stores are : NORDSTROMS and MACY'S. Both have very large makeup centers here, and there are always these ladies standing around in white lab coats waiting for someone to sit down and get a makeover!! :) Oh, and what about SAKS (sp?) 5th AVENUE? We have an Outlet store here, but even it is VERY expensive!!! I think that the main store is in New York, but from what I have heard it is a very fancy store!! Hope this helps!! Lori -----Original Message----- From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat [mailto:labrat@CABLEINET.CO.UK] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 1:06 AM To: creolel@mail.ca.freei.net Subject: Back again... Sorry...I should do all of my writing, jot down the question as they occur and then post to the list. Anyway, I'm looking for the name of a high class department store in the US. Is Macy's still around? I have a famous name on the tip of my tongue, but I'm dashed if I can think of what it is. Anyway, somewhere that would have a cosmetics department that would issue makeover vouchers. Said vouchers considered to be a real treat - very expensive, something you couldn't easily afford to do every day. And, obviously, big enough that it would have branches everywhere. Okay, you're safe now. I'm closing down the Lonesome file and heading downstairs for tea. ;) Thanks! LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:23:29 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Back again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Anyway, I'm looking for the name of a high class department store in the > US. Is Macy's still around? I have a famous name on the tip of my tongue, > but I'm dashed if I can think of what it is. Anyway, somewhere that would > have a cosmetics department that would issue makeover vouchers. Said > vouchers considered to be a real treat - very expensive, something you > couldn't easily afford to do every day. And, obviously, big enough that it > would have branches everywhere. Well, when I was in the States the year before last, I kept seeing Macy's Fifth Avenue in all the big malls; it seemed pretty high-class and pricey to me, much more like Selfridges than Debenhams, for instance. That do you? Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:50:04 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kath Roden Subject: Re: Back again... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat >Anyway, I'm looking for the name of a high class department store in the >US. Is Macy's still around? I have a famous name on the tip of my tongue, >but I'm dashed if I can think of what it is. Anyway, somewhere that would >have a cosmetics department that would issue makeover vouchers. Said >vouchers considered to be a real treat - very expensive, something you >couldn't easily afford to do every day. And, obviously, big enough that it >would have branches everywhere. I think Terri's right, Neiman Marcus is the one you want. Macy's is not even close to touching this guy. There's also Lord and Taylor, but Neiman's is still the giant. You can purchase anything from buffalos to bandanas. I remember looking at an evening gown that was $3,000.00! They are in most of the larger cities only. As far as makeup vouchers, what about Elizabeth Arden? Kath ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:15:51 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kaethel Subject: Re: Games - LabRat's Game MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! okay, I've kept silent long enough , I'd like to take part into the new fun game (although I'm pretty sure I won't find a lot of those!) S p o i l e r S p a c e (where's your cool spoiler space, Labby? ) > A bowl of chocolate custard Ah... uh... um... I'm out on this one :/ > A book by Nancy Friday oooh, this one I can't forget! This is "The Penfriend" by Wendy! > A gleaming black ballpoint pen with an oversized barrel sounds familiar but I can't quite place it... > A pair of sneakers, coloured red I guess I'd remember if I'd read this... > Wires wrapped in green tissue paper Mmmm... no idea... Boy, this is pathetic! One our of five... urgh, gotta do some reading Helene :) ------------------------------------------------------ Kaethel on irc / Kaethel79 on AIM kaethel@club-internet.fr "Minute's up, Clark! Come to Mama!!" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:27:52 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kaethel Subject: Re: Clark's powers - fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Re ;) Actually, there were contradictory things said in the show about this (or at least in the French version, and knowing how many things were twisted in this one, you'd rather check the following information ). First, there was what was said in ASU, about Clark having his powers pretty early except for the flying, that he discovered only around 18. Then, in JSN, Clark told Lois that flying was easy for him because he'd been used to it since he was 10 years old (first contradiction, here). Also, in COTOC, Clark asks his mother when he started moving the furniture around, and she tells him he was something like 3 or 4, and his training rather consisted in lifting the fridge The last occurence I can recall is in WHALTTA, where Martha explains to Lois that Clark decided to keep the secret to himself when he started getting very strong around 13. Told you those were pretty contradictory information. I think you're pretty free in the domain, considering how many contradictions the series gave us here :) And I can't remember if the age when Clark aquired his unvulnerability was ever specifically mentioned in the show. I remember something about the impossibility to have him vaccined (because of this unvulnerability) but I think that came from fanfics rather than the show itself. Hope this helps! Helene (who is happy that LabRat is working on something :) ------------------------------------------------------ Kaethel on irc / Kaethel79 on AIM kaethel@club-internet.fr "Souviens-toi que le temps est un joueur avide Qui gagne sans tricher, à tout coup! c'est la loi" Charles Baudelaire - Spleen et Ideal. LXXXV ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:37:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: Games - LabRat's Game In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Oh, Labrat, I know most of these, I think -- and without peeking, too! :) s p o i l e r s p a c e >Okay, how about: > >A bowl of chocolate custard Debby's Dawning, and so help me if you want to know which chapter! :) I think Lois ate it the night after the fair in Clark's neighborhood. >A book by Nancy Friday Wendy's "Penfriend" >A gleaming black ballpoint pen with an oversized barrel "Timeless," by Becky Bain... one of the best crossovers ever! >A pair of sneakers, coloured red "Little Man, Super," by Sandy McDermin >Wires wrapped in green tissue paper Sorry, total blank on this one. I'll have to wait to find out what it is! Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:06:21 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: RFC822 error: Incorrect or incomplete address field found and ignored. From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Review S5 Ep 14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Times_New_RomanHi FoLCs: It's A Wonderful Lifetime By Cindy and the incognito writer! S P O I L E R S P A C E This was not in the TV ep format, which was fine but for once, I did not have to print it out the text version. This took me a long time due to RL but I thought it was very effective. I really like the "no place like home" line. Also, I thought the level of frustration was well wrought since I could feel Clark's to my bones. It is difficult to review part one of a two part story, so this will be breif. It was an interesting L&C take on the now famous Jimmy Stewart movie holiday favorite (was this meant to be instead of an X-mas ep?) Interesting how-to manual on how a certain time traveler can push a certain superhero's buttons, not to mention a certain female reporter. OTOH, I kept hoping LL would "get it" based on their past history. Since she rarely did in the series, this fits right inWingdingsJ Times_New_RomanI thought the dialogue suited the characters well. Did I dream this, or did someone finally tell Wells he made a mistake putting Tempus in the past? Anyway, I am having a great time! Onto S5/15! Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@.med.cornell.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:09:53 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Phillip Atcliffe Subject: Re: Clark's powers - fanfic question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue, 9 May 2000 09:23:14 -0500 SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat wrote: > But, what I need to know is, was anything ever said on the show about when he became invulnerable? I have the feeling that that happened at a young age, but I have no idea if that's canon or comics or if I've picked it up in fanfic. < It sounds very like the comics, Lab. According to "Man of Steel #1", Clark's invulnerability was first noticed when he was about 8, when he was trampled by a bull, but came away unscathed. I can't remember the series ever mentioning it, although I have this idea, which may well come from fanfic, that his powers began to come in when he hit puberty. The animated series has his powers coming in as a teenager, but that's after the fact as far as L&C is concerned. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------ "We gotta get out into Space / If it's the last thing we ever do!" -- Return to the Forbidden Planet A sentiment echoed by Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:20:52 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/09/2000 6:02:56 AM US Eastern Standard Time, kubitc@KENYON.EDU writes: << As I said earlier, most students do have some contraband in their rooms. It's hard not to; here it's against the rules to store things in cardboard boxes for the so-called fire hazard it creates. However, no students I know break the rules because of a feeling of invulnerability. In my four years at Kenyon, we have had 5 students die, including 1 in January, on a ride back to campus after a swim meet in a college-owned van. I think most students who have such contraband in their rooms do so with trepidation, and are careful, for example, never to leave a candle burning in an unoccupied room. We as a campus have been reminded too often of our vulnerability. >> I have to disagree here... many campuses don't allow microwaves in rooms, so a hot plate is necessary to cook... I have one... along with countless other "contraband"... but it's not because I feel invoulnerable, it's because I feel like the rules are stupid and that I am responsible enough to watch my illegal things... about the candles, my suitemate and I were moving in and she left a candle burning when we went out to dinner... oh boy did she get in BIG trouble! About students dying... it's bad you bring that up today... I stayed at home this weekend to study for my circuits final this morning, so at 7am when I drove up to the dorms, my friend that i was driving with and i saw a kid jump through his ninth story window and commit suicide. (we think... he might have been pushed... he went right through the glass)... it is really scary because I lived on the 9th floor of the building next door last year and I didnt have a screen on my window... i think that was the worst think i have ever seen in my life... there was so much blood, i am still shaking from the memory... Alicia ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:22:46 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/09/2000 6:03:18 AM US Eastern Standard Time, jenerator@FREE.NET.AU writes: << What is an RA and/or an LA? >> RA is resident assistant... they are undergraduate students that are in charge of the dorm (usualyl 2-3 per building depending on its size) LA is probably something we only have at Case... it is Learning Assistant... they are a go between for students and the deans' office... they basically help the freshmen settle into college life. Alicia ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:25:02 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: Back again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Ms. Rat: Long time no write. Neiman-Marcus is way in the clouds above any other dept. store in the U.S. Nordstrom is trying to get there. Saks is hanging on in the stratosphere. Macy's definitely ain't it. Lots of stores its equal. Gimme a shout personally. I don't have your current address. Jude ----- Original Message ----- From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat To: Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 8:06 AM Subject: Back again... > Sorry...I should do all of my writing, jot down the question as they occur > and then post to the list. > > > Anyway, I'm looking for the name of a high class department store in the > US. Is Macy's still around? I have a famous name on the tip of my tongue, > but I'm dashed if I can think of what it is. Anyway, somewhere that would > have a cosmetics department that would issue makeover vouchers. Said > vouchers considered to be a real treat - very expensive, something you > couldn't easily afford to do every day. And, obviously, big enough that it > would have branches everywhere. > > Okay, you're safe now. I'm closing down the Lonesome file and heading > downstairs for tea. ;) > > Thanks! > > LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:27:11 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Re: Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/09/2000 6:58:11 AM US Eastern Standard Time, Aerm1@AOL.COM writes: << An RA is a "Residence Assistant." They are usually upperclassmen and women in a college who work for the college as supervisors in dormitories. I think that is a bit dated... most dorms at my school are coed and they are all mixed years and we have one male and one female RA per building (usually depending on the size of the building)... I know a lot fo RAs that are sophomores... just none that are freshmen << Graduate students are also RAs at schools with grad programs. They take the place of housemothers. >> actually, those are the Residence Directors... they are in charge of the building and they are also in charge of the RAs... even if they are 40 years old and weird like mine is << RAs are in charge of enforcing the rules and also of being there for students in emergencies. In a freshman dorm they would probably have to deal with homesickness. >> true, but the homesickness is more dealt with by the LA at my school... Alicia ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:47:57 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: Question for a fic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >LA is probably something we only have at Case... it is Learning Assistant... >they are a go between for students and the deans' office... they basically >help the freshmen settle into college life. I think most colleges have similar roles, occupied by people with different titles and slightly different credentials. Here an LA is a UCC (Upperclass Counselor) << An RA is a "Residence Assistant." They are usually upperclassmen and women in a college who work for the college as supervisors in dormitories. >> >I think that is a bit dated... most dorms at my school are coed and they are >all mixed years and we have one male and one female RA per building (usually >depending on the size of the building)... I know a lot fo RAs that are >sophomores... just none that are freshmen I don't think it's dated; again, I think it depends on the school. Here all dorms except one are coed, but first-years have their own dorms. Each hall (approx 9-10 rooms/hall, several halls per floor) have an RA, which is an upperclass student who has (supposedly) undergone rigorous training to be able to handle problems as diverse as health emergencies, alcohol poisoning, rape, roommate problems, homesickness, etc. I believe *most* colleges have separate first-year and upperclass dorms (at least all the ones I applied to did, 4 years ago). Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 13:56:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Terry S. Horowit" Subject: Re: Clark's powers - fanfic question In-Reply-To: <037801bfb9d3$cfe20f40$3e8a24c3@oemcomputer> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Helene said: >>Actually, there were contradictory things said in the show about this (or at >least in the French version, and knowing how many things were twisted in >this one, you'd rather check the following information ). > >First, there was what was said in ASU, about Clark having his powers pretty >early except for the flying, that he discovered only around 18. > >Then, in JSN, Clark told Lois that flying was easy for him because he'd been >used to it since he was 10 years old (first contradiction, here). Actually, my memory is that he said he'd been flying since HIGH SCHOOL, which is not a contradiction. >Also, in COTOC, Clark asks his mother when he started moving the furniture >around, and she tells him he was something like 3 or 4, and his training >rather consisted in lifting the fridge OK, I remember this conversation but - while I don't remember the specific age she mentioned - I'm pretty sure it was much older than 3 or 4, more like 13 or 14. This would be consistent with WHATTA where Martha tells Lois he first started getting "strong, really really strong" at around 12 or 13. Terry ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:30:39 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Clark's powers - fanfic question On Tue, 9 May 2000 18:27:52 +0200, Kaethel wrote: >Actually, there were contradictory things said in the show about this (or at >least in the French version, Helene, it sounds like the French translators didn't do a very good job for you! Several of the ages that they gave you are incorrect. >Then, in JSN, Clark told Lois that flying was easy for him because he'd been >used to it since he was 10 years old (first contradiction, here). As filmed/shown in the US, Clark says "I've been flying since high school". You're right that he says in another episode that he was 18 when he first flew, so given that Clark's birthday in February 28, he must have learned to fly sometime between March and May/June (whenever his graduation was) of his senior year. >Also, in COTOC, Clark asks his mother when he started moving the furniture >around, and she tells him he was something like 3 or 4, and his training >rather consisted in lifting the fridge Again, all correct except the age -- Martha says 13. >The last occurence I can recall is in WHALTTA, where Martha explains to Lois >that Clark decided to keep the secret to himself when he started getting >very strong around 13. This is a correct translation; she does say 13 here. Also, we know from Alt Clark that at 10, he was already really fast, but not fast enough to save his parents in the car accident. We also know from GGGoH (or was it HIWTHI?) that Clark had never been sick as a child. We definitely know from GGGoH that Clark had never had a paper cut before, and was completely shocked and dumbfounded by getting one! There has never been any mention of his invulnerability and when that started. From the *comics*, it happened sometime after age 4, since Clark fell from a tree and broke his arm at that age. But this was never referenced in the show, and you can use it or not, as you see fit. Kathy kathybrown91@home.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:34:16 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: OT :Question for a fic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OMG! I'm moving back to the dorms this fall and I can't even being to think what would be going through my mind if I saw something like that. I do hope you feel better and I will keep you and that person in my prayers. Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:36:27 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: Back again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How about Bloomingdales? Or is that place too cheap for you story? LOL! I remember in Metropolis they had a play on word for that. I can't remember what it is right now but when I heard it I started laughing because it made me think of Bloomingdales. Alexis ;-.) {who doesn't have a Bloomingdales near her but hears about it all the time on TV} ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:45:34 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Clark's powers - fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/9/00 10:24:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, labrat@CABLEINET.CO.UK writes: << Clark not flying until he was in his late teens and Martha telling Lois that his powers first manifested when he was...fourteen? Around about there anyway. But, what I need to know is, was anything ever said on the show about when he became invulnerable? I have the feeling that that happened at a young age, but I have no idea if that's canon or comics or if I've picked it up in fanfic. So, if anyone can clarify, please? Thanks! >> Martha said he was 13 when he became "strong, really, really strong." He must have always been more or less invulnerable, because when he gets sick in HIWTHI, Lois asks about medical records; and Martha says there aren't any, "there never was a need." Ann ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 14:50:41 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, let's try this one... s p o i l e r s p a c e I only know two of these!! > -- graffiti burned into a cell wall > So Strong a Foundation, by Wendy > -- a helicopter struck by lightning Life In a Different World, part III, by Mobile Richard The others have me stumped ... I don't read enough fanfic, apparently ;) -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" --Galaxy Quest, a very funny movie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:55:10 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: Games - LabRat's Game MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I know some of these... not many, actually, but what the heck s p o i l e r s p a c e > A bowl of chocolate custard nary a clue > A book by Nancy Friday The Penfriend, by Wendy (one of my favorites, too -- the fanfic, not the book ;) > A gleaming black ballpoint pen with an oversized barrel Why, that must be Timeless, by Becky Bain. :) > A pair of sneakers, coloured red > > Wires wrapped in green tissue paper These aren't ringing bells for me... -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:09:38 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Clark's powers - fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/9/00 12:58:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kaethel@CLUB-INTERNET.FR writes: << First, there was what was said in ASU, about Clark having his powers pretty early except for the flying, that he discovered only around 18. Then, in JSN, Clark told Lois that flying was easy for him because he'd been used to it since he was 10 years old (first contradiction, here). Also, in COTOC, Clark asks his mother when he started moving the furniture around, and she tells him he was something like 3 or 4, and his training rather consisted in lifting the fridge > There are definitely some inconsistencies here, but they must be in the translation. In JSN in English, Clark tells Lois flying is easy because he's been doing it since high school. People are usually 18 during much of their last year of high school in the US, which makes the comment fit in with the 18 years old bit. If Clark's birthday was in February, he would have been 18 for the second semester of his senior year. In COTOC, Martha tells him he was 13 or 14, not 3 or 4. Part of the weirdness of the little boy was his youth compared to Clark's age when he started lifting heavy things. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:25:12 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Lorie Y. Crisp" Subject: Re: Clark's powers - fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/09/2000 9:24:56 AM Central Daylight Time, labrat@CABLEINET.CO.UK writes: << But, what I need to know is, was anything ever said on the show about when he became invulnerable? I have the feeling that that happened at a young age, but I have no idea if that's canon or comics or if I've picked it up in fanfic. >> Well, from what i remember, in the show when Clark got sick from that Mindy Church virus, and they were wanting to get him to a doctor, his parents said he never ever got sick as a child, they had no past test results or xrays because "there was never any need" (i know he couldnt' get xrayed anyway because he's too dense----molecularly, not mentally heehee) But in the comics, he broke his arm when he was a kid, I think. If I'm wrong, I'm sure someone out there will let me have it! SuperLorie :-) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:33:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: Review S5 Ep 14 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:06 PM 09/05/00 -0500, you wrote: >Hi FoLCs: > >It's A Wonderful Lifetime >By Cindy and the incognito writer! > Carolyn, just in case I've never said it: Thank you, thank you, *thank* you for posting these lovely reviews. While I read the S5 stories long ago, it's such a pleasure to read what you thought -- a fresh look at an old friend! Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:34:52 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Review S5 Ep 14 On Tue, 9 May 2000 13:06:21 -0500, Carolyn Schnall wrote: It was an interesting L&C take on the now famous Jimmy Stewart >movie holiday favorite (was this meant to be instead of an X-mas ep?) No, S5 had a Christmas episode in December (Jeff's "Oh Give Me A Home"). This episode first aired in March 1998. Glad you liked it; this first part especially was very captivating. Kathy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:26:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: Review S5 Ep 14 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Kathy: >On Tue, 9 May 2000 13:06:21 -0500, Carolyn Schnall >wrote: > >It was an interesting L&C take on the now famous Jimmy Stewart >>movie holiday favorite (was this meant to be instead of an X-mas ep?) > >No, S5 had a Christmas episode in December (Jeff's "Oh Give Me A Home"). >This episode first aired in March 1998. > >Glad you liked it; this first part especially was very captivating. > >Kathy Thanks for clearing up the timing for me, I got mixied up:) I drew out reading it because it was intense! Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:28:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: Review S5 Ep 14 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000509233055.0090bac0@actcom.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Hazel: >At 01:06 PM 09/05/00 -0500, you wrote: >>Hi FoLCs: >> >>It's A Wonderful Lifetime >>By Cindy and the incognito writer! >> > >Carolyn, just in case I've never said it: Thank you, thank you, *thank* you >for posting these lovely reviews. While I read the S5 stories long ago, >it's such a pleasure to read what you thought -- a fresh look at an old >friend! > >Hazel Gosh, you're welcome!!!:) There is still so much L&C related stuff that I have not experienced and I am delighted to share my revelations with such an appreciative audience (blushing now!!) Thank you back, Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:36:16 GMT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Diyan Subject: Re: The Games People Play Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >-- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman If *I* couldn't get this one... Okay, shameless plug: to see my attempt at creating this painting, go to >-- Two wedding rings melted together This is from Trevise's series. I believe the title is "The End of the Beginning" ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:53:09 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kaethel Subject: Weird translations (was Re: Clark's powers - fanfic question) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re ;) Kathy wrote: > Helene, it sounds like the French translators didn't do a very good job for > you! Several of the ages that they gave you are incorrect. Oooh, if you only knew! Sorry about the wrong info, that was really what was said in the French version, and I have to admit I didn't check my English tapes... but then, I should have known, when, in "Soulmates", the word "teddy" was translated with the French equivalent of "teddy bear" - which doesn't make any sense, I admit... I actually didn't understand this dialog until I found the original transcript ... I mean , what was a teddy *bear* doing in this conversation? Helene (who has already found an awful lot of bad translations in the French version of the show...) ------------------------------------------------------ Kaethel on irc / Kaethel79 on AIM kaethel@club-internet.fr "This is my mistake. Let me make it good I raised the wall, and I will be the one to knock it down" REM -- "World leader pretend" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:09:41 +0100 Reply-To: "yconnell@ukf.net" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: yconnell Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm getting worse, I think. S P O I L E R S P A C E > > -- a bent magic wand > Dunno > -- Frangos > Can't even remember what these are, let alone what story they appear in - oh, hang on, wasn't it a restaurant somewhere? > -- a silver picture frame > Dunno > -- graffiti burned into a cell wall > So Strong A Foundation, by Wendy Richards - and a master stroke by Jon Kent, I thought! > -- a helicopter struck by lightning > Something by Nan? Doppleganger? > -- liquid green Kryptonite > There must be a few stories with this in them - don't know which this is, though. Yvonne (waiting patiently to receive the dunce's cap again :)) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:47:28 +0100 Reply-To: "yconnell@ukf.net" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: yconnell Subject: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think it's ever been specified as to which elements of the sun's energy give Clark his powers. Therefore, if you needed to re-energise him without the sun, what would you use? A sun bed, a source of UV/Infrared light, a sun lamp...? Thanks, Yvonne (yconnell@ukf.net) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:56:21 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: Games - LabRat's Game Okay, here are the answers: > L A B R A T S H O T S P O I L E R S P A C E (It ain't cool here no more in this heat, Helene. ;) Answers: 1. A bowl of chocolate custard - The Dawning, Part 22 by Debby Stark. 2. A book by Nancy Friday - The Penfriend by Wendy Richards 3. A gleaming black ballpoint pen with an oversized barrel - Timeless by Becky Bain. 4. A pair of sneakers, coloured red - Little Man Super by Sandi McDermin (wonderful fic imo) 5. Wires wrapped in green tissue paper - which stumped all of you and which, conversely I thought would be the easiest of the lot. Shows what I know. This one was Broccoli Dancing by Irene Dutchak. Bethy and Pam get 20 points each for correctly guessing 2 and 3. Helene gets 10 for correctly identifying 2. And Hazel is our champ on this one with a massive 40 points for getting all but 5. Hazel wrote: >>A bowl of chocolate custard > >Debby's Dawning, and so help me if you want to know which chapter! :) I >think Lois ate it the night after the fair in Clark's neighborhood. > +++She might have done. But I took it from part 22 and cheated a little as it had a Mexican name and was given to Lois by the family of the Mexican house where she and Clark stayed. Lois describes it as chocolate custard though. +++ LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 19:09:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: Back again Thanks to everyone who answered the department store query for me. I definitely have the information I need now. You guys are the best. :) The department store that I had on the tip of my tongue was Bloomingdale's. (Thanks, Kathy for the irc memory jog. ;) ) I remembered it from the movie Splash, but couldn't remember what it was called. And, as it turned out, it didn't rate very highly with you guys anyway. Lori, thanks for the details. All very interesting and giving me ideas. :) Kath wrote: >As far as makeup vouchers, what about Elizabeth Arden? Would you be able to get these in a department store like Neiman Mascus, Kath? Or only in Elizabeth Arden stores? Certainly they fit the bill, if it's the former. Jude wrote: >Gimme a shout personally. I don't have your current address. +++I think I've got what I need, Jude - Neiman Marcus seems to fit the bill, thanks for the suggestion and grateful thanks for the offer of help. Sorry - forgot to put my eddress on my post. It's at the bottom of this one for anyone who's interested. ++++ TerriAnn wrote: Is Nieman Marcus what you're thinking of? And while I have your attention: Where's "Second Degree Burns?????" It wasn't. But thanks to you knowledgable FoLCs out there it is now. And um....ooooh, look at the time! Must dash! LabRat :)(whistling innocently...) labrat@cableinet.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 19:17:56 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: Clark's Powers... And it would have been logical to have tacked this onto my other fanfic query post...but it didn't occur to me until after I've sent it. So, I didn't. Thanks for this too, guys. I'd actually forgotten about some of the incidences mentioned - like the one in HIWTHI. General concensus appears to be that I can pretty much get away with having him invulnerable at an early age. Which makes a lot of sense to me anyway. So, thanks. And which also - thankfully enough - means I don't have to ditch much of what I wrote today either. Phew. Lori - interesting point on the xrays - which wasn't something I'd actually considered before you mentioned it. Thanks! LabRat :)(wondering if it's worth going to bed in this heat...) "I went on a diet, swore off heavy drinking and eating, and in fourteen days I had lost two weeks." -- Joe. E. Lewis. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:17:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kasspur Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't think that the issue was specifically talked about in the show- but in Three Capes, (sorry can't remember the author, but the fic was ROTFL) Clark got drunk from a sun lamp ;) So unless someone can find a specific reference in the show, you have a pretty wide selection of options :) Kara KassJ/Kasspur on IRC Kasspur on AIM ICQ 46275626 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:50:41 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Back again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/09/2000 11:08:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, labrat@CABLEINET.CO.UK writes: << Is Macy's still around? >> Yes. Hey, they still have the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade in NY City each year. --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 21:31:18 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pat Subject: Re: Back again... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jude wrote: > Neiman-Marcus is way in the clouds above > any other dept. store in the U.S. Definitely one of the pricier stores; here in the midwest we call it "Needless-Markup" I think Lois was carrying a shopping bag from Neiman-Marcus in a second season episode (Resurrection, maybe?) >Nordstrom is trying to get there. Saks is > hanging on in the stratosphere. Nordstrom is pretty popular :) It doesn't have quite merchandise mix you'd find in Neiman-Marcus, but it gets lots more points for service. If the person in your fanfic who gets the gift certificate for a makeover is looking to be pampered, Nordie's is probably the place ;) >Macy's definitely ain't it. Lots of stores > its equal. LOL! I'd put it at about the same level as J.C. Penneys or Bloomingdales. Labbie, thank you for asking a question that combines two of my favorite subjects: L&C and shopping :) Pat peabody@mcs.com pattijean@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:30:49 -0400 Reply-To: Kath Roden Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kath Roden Subject: Re: Back again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat > > Kath wrote: > > >As far as makeup vouchers, what about Elizabeth Arden? > > Would you be able to get these in a department store like Neiman Mascus, > Kath? Or only in Elizabeth Arden stores? Certainly they fit the bill, if > it's the former. Gee whiz, ya got me. Generally, the cosmetic areas do a promo and invite a makeup artist to hawk their products. Some give away makeovers if you purchase a 'kit' that could be anywhere from $25 to $100.00. Depends on the store, the artist, etc. I know of some salons (not dept stores) that have "day of beauty" where you go for the day and they do it all, hair, makeup, massage, nails... I'd love to do that someday! Kath ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:43:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gerry Anklewicz Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question Comments: To: yconnell@ukf.net In-Reply-To: <01BFBA11.0F6A5360.yconnell@ukf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit yconnell@ukf.net writes: >I don't think it's ever been specified as to which elements of the sun's >energy give Clark his powers. Therefore, if you needed to re-energise him >without the sun, what would you use? A sun bed, a source of UV/Infrared >light, a sun lamp...? > >Thanks, >Yvonne >(yconnell@ukf.net) It would seem to me that if you wanted to know what Clark needs to re-energise himself, you would have to get some information on what made the Krypton's red sun different for Earth's yellow sun. It can't be UV/infrared light because it has "red" in it. but don't ask me, I barely passed chemistry in high school. Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:03:50 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kasspur Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a yellow sun is younger than a red sun- or vice versa, but i do know that it has something to do with age :) Kara ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 23:31:00 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >It would seem to me that if you wanted to know what Clark needs to >re-energise himself, you would have to get some information on what made >the Krypton's red sun different for Earth's yellow sun. It can't be >UV/infrared light because it has "red" in it. >but don't ask me, I barely passed chemistry in high school. I can't pretend to know the difference between the yellow Earth sun and the red Kryptonian sun, but I can tell you that UV (ultra-violet) and infrared (IR) light are completely different. As their names hint, they are at opposite ends of the color spectrum, meaning that their wavelengths are different. Overexposure to UV light is a known carcinogen; perhaps there is some quality to yellow-Earth light which in some way helps Clark? However, I don't think the difference between a yellow and red sun have anything to do with UV and IR light. However, it being finals week here, my brain is pretty fried at the moment... You might look up the difference between yellow and red (if such a color exists) suns. Christy kubitc@ke "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 00:19:04 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "StarKitty :)" Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Yes, the red type stars are older than the yellow ones, and they're definitely cooler. Let's see, now, Krypton's star would be a K type (we've got a G2, if I remember correctly). According to one site I checked out, red stars are actually M type, but we think that only F, G, and K type stars would have planets capable of supporting life. I took a look at the absorption spectra for the G-type and K-type stars and there are definitely differences. The pic's I looked at weren't very clear and didn't really give me much info on what was and wasn't there. If I remember correctly, K type stars are down to helium fusion instead of hydrogen fusion, which is what the younger stars like our own have. Here're a few links that should be helpful. (really, I promise they're not links to a virus! :) http://lheawww.gsfc.nasa.gov/users/allen/spectral_classification.html http://zebu.uoregon.edu/spectra.html http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/~kaler/sow/spectra.html Hope this helps! Tara (who will now stop pretending she actually knows anything scientific :) > > >It would seem to me that if you wanted to know what Clark needs to > >re-energise himself, you would have to get some information on what made > >the Krypton's red sun different for Earth's yellow sun. It can't be > >UV/infrared light because it has "red" in it. > >but don't ask me, I barely passed chemistry in high school. > ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 04:24:59 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: New Site Comments: To: lcnfanfic@egroups.com, DeanCainFans@egroups.com, afolcslife@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone! I just wanted to let you know that I set up a chat community for all kinds of fanfic. As more people join I will add more and more category. Please go to: Fanfic Community @ www.ezboard.com if you are interested. If this link doesn't work, please let me know about that also! Thanks, Alexis ;-.) "I always wanted to but was too chicken, but once I did I wanted to do it again!" -Dean Cain talking about his first kiss ;) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 05:49:02 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: Back again On Tue, 9 May 2000 22:30:49 -0400, Kath Roden wrote: >Gee whiz, ya got me. > :) That's okay, Kath. Someone mailed me privately on this one and the answer was yes. ;) Thanks for the help. :) Pat wrote: >Definitely one of the pricier stores; here in the midwest we call it >"Needless-Markup" I think Lois was carrying a shopping bag from >Neiman-Marcus in a second season episode (Resurrection, maybe?) Hey, thanks for the tip. I'll check that one out. >Labbie, thank you for asking a question that combines two of my >favorite subjects: L&C and shopping :) LOL - anytime. LabRat :) labrat@cableinet.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 06:38:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000509115112.0090aae0@actcom.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello! I see some of the fanfics are not, as yet, identified. So, for those that have not yet been guessed, I am offering an additional clue. Naming the fic and author, at this stage, will be worth six points. >-- a bent magic wand This fic also has two spaceships. >-- liquid green Kryptonite This fic also has an absent wedding ring Again, let me stress that all these stories are uploaded to the archive this year. Several of you pointed out that liquid green K has been used in more than one fic, and my apologies for that; but to the best of my knowledge, only one such fic was uploaded in 2000. Good luck! Hazel (who will mark scores after everything has been identified) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 07:21:20 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I took a course in basic astronomy some years ago. The subject of different star types is a little complicated, however, there was some basic information that I think could cover the question. On the H-R diagram there are the Main Sequence stars and a number that fall outside of it like the red giants, the blue supergiants and the white dwarfs. If we assume that Krypton's star was a main sequence star then it would have been a red dwarf which means it would have been one of the smallest, coolest stars around, called an M-class star. It might, just possibly, be a K-class star, but those are more orange than an actual red. It's main color being red means it puts out minimum of other, higher band light waves. A G-2 star, like our own, is a yellow star, somewhat brighter, hotter and larger. It also puts out more light in the shorter light bandwidths than a red star. I would guess that Superman's powers would have to be caused by something in those shorter light waves. I wouldn't be too specific--just mention that the shorter radiation bandwidths more heavily present in a yellow sun are the source of Superman's powers. Any light that had in it those bandwidths should do the trick. Nan Gerry Anklewicz wrote: > yconnell@ukf.net writes: > >I don't think it's ever been specified as to which elements of the sun's > >energy give Clark his powers. Therefore, if you needed to re-energise him > >without the sun, what would you use? A sun bed, a source of UV/Infrared > >light, a sun lamp...? > > > >Thanks, > >Yvonne > >(yconnell@ukf.net) > > It would seem to me that if you wanted to know what Clark needs to > re-energise himself, you would have to get some information on what made > the Krypton's red sun different for Earth's yellow sun. It can't be > UV/infrared light because it has "red" in it. > but don't ask me, I barely passed chemistry in high school. > Gerry ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 10:02:53 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It just occurred to me that the best person to ask about the differences in light > wavelengths and for the right scientific terminology for all this stuff (not to > mention to fudge up a genuine-sounding explanation for all this) would probably > be Phil Atcliffe. He's the engineering professor in the bunch. Nan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 12:28:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: alauters Subject: Time Elapsed (10/?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *** As Clark held the door for Lois at the offices of MorphCorp, he whispered, “Five bucks says there’s a connection between this company and the person who’s tormenting your mother.” “No bet,” Lois smiled up at him. “And if I were to bet, it might be for something a little more – substantial.” A quick phone call from Sam had landed them a meeting with the Projects Director of MorphCorp, Geoffrey Franz. As Lois and Clark were shown into his office, Geoffrey rose from behind his desk and circled it to greet them. “You must be Ms. Lane,” he said, shaking her hand warmly. “And Mr. Kent.” Geoffrey met Clark’s grip. “I must say, I was surprised to learn Sam knew such august company, let alone his daughter was the great Lois Lane.” “We Lanes are just full of surprises,” Lois said a bit dryly. Geoffrey didn’t appear to notice the sarcasm. “Of course, Sam’s working on an important project for us, so I couldn’t refuse his request that I meet with the two of you. But I have to admit, if you’d called on your own, I would have wanted to meet you. I’ve followed your work with great interest.” Geoffrey gestured to a nearby sofa and pair of arm chairs. “The benefits of a corner office. Won’t you sit down?” As they arranged themselves, Lois got to the point. “Mr. Franz – ” “Geoffrey, please, Ms.Lane,” he interrupted. “Geoffrey,” she continued. “My father told us about his project – a device that can interrupt human brain patterns? But he couldn’t tell us what MorphCorp intended to use it for. Can you help us out? And please, it’s Lois.” “Thank you, Lois,” Geoffrey said. “MorphCorp is a research and development company. We make money from such devices by selling the patents to other companies, who, in turn, further develop and manufacture the products. We focus on the front end, often at the behest of a client.” Clark frowned. “It sounds like you accept outsourcing projects from other companies.” “Just so,” Geoffrey agreed. “Sometimes our own scientists or affiliates come up with the ideas; sometimes companies have an idea but don’t have time to develop it. We step in to further develop the idea, if it can be done, often more cheaply than if these companies had their own research and development departments.” “Can you tell us who came up with the idea for the gadget my father is working on?” Lois asked. “I’m afraid that’s confidential, Lois,” Geoffrey said with a smile. “One of the reasons we stay in business is because we don’t divulge business secrets from client to client.” “Geoffrey, it may be a matter of life and death – my mother’s,” Lois explained. “Any chance you could break the rules, just once? It’s not for publication.” “I’m afraid not, Lois,” Geoffrey replied firmly. “It’s to no one’s benefit if we go out of business.” Clark stood suddenly. “Thank you for your time, Geoffrey.” Taken aback, but covering quickly, Lois stood, too. “Yes, thank you, Geoffrey,” Lois said. “We appreciate your time.” “Not at all,” Geoffrey rose to escort them out. The trio walked out to the front lobby, where Geoffrey shook hands again. “Please, come back any time, Lois, Clark.” With a nod, he left. Clark tucked a hand under Lois’ elbow. “Shall we, honey?” he asked. “Certainly,” Lois raised an eyebrow at the move, but followed him outside, where Clark walked them around the corner, out of sight of the office windows, then quickly propelled them up. “What’s going on, Clark?” Lois asked. “Shh, let me listen,” Clark said, tightening his grip. Clark heard Geoffrey pick up the phone, dial, and start talking without preamble. “They just left,” Geoffrey said. “Did you tell them anything?” A husky, deep voice asked. “Just what you told me to – the information they could find out from anybody.” “They’ve gotten close,” the voice continued. “I didn’t expect them to get this close so fast,” Geoffrey said. The voice rumbled into a low, menacing laugh. “Fool.” Geoffrey winced. The voice continued, “You will see to it that they do not find out who commissioned that device.” “How am I supposed to do that, short of stonewalling them here?” Geoffrey asked. “You’re an intelligent man, you’ll think of something,” the voice said. “Or you’ll die.” At the click and buzz of the dial tone, Geoffrey shuddered. High above, Clark did, too. “What? What?” Lois asked. Clark set them down on a nearby rooftop, and spun into the suit. “When you asked Geoffrey who commissioned your father’s gadget, his pulse and temperature skyrocketed. I took a chance that he might reveal himself if we left.” “So you got us out of the office to listen in on something?” “He called another man – at least, the voice sounded male. The voice warned Geoffrey to keep us from finding out who commissioned the device, or die.” Clark paced. “It sounded like he knew we’d be looking.” “Maybe we should do a little quiet breaking and entering tonight,” Lois suggested. “Lucy plans to be at the hospital; Daddy plans to be at his own apartment tonight. No one will know.” Clark grinned. “It’s been awhile since we committed a felony.” He walked over and scooped her up. “But it looks like that’s the only way we’ll find out who’s behind this.” *** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 12:35:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Felix E. Sung" Subject: NEW: The Final Gift (1/2) Note: This is deathfic. If you are uncomfortable reading deathfic then I suggest you close this window or click the 'Back' button on your browser. This vignette is in the same universe as "The Wedding," "The Rehearsal," and "The (Mis)conception," and it recounts Lois' life after Clark's death. Comments welcome. Disclaimer: The story is mine, but the characters are not. I'm merely borrowing the characters from WB, DC Comics, etc., etc. No borrowing, copying, or distributing without my permission, etc., etc. The Final Gift By Filex [Metropolis, 348 Hyperion Avenue] [December 12, 2066] A picture of an elderly woman seated on a couch appeared on the very large HDLD (High-Definition Liquid-Crystal Display), slightly out of focus. It wasn't perfect, but after laboring over it for an hour Lois Lane Kent got everything to work. She smiled for the first time in days. "Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks?" she asked herself. Grabbing the remote, she pressed a button, and the VMD (Video Mini-Disc) camera started recording. Lois was a bit peeved at Charles Lane Kent, her eldest grandson. Because of what he had done, he wasn't Lois' favorite person right now. He had hosted a gathering at his home after the burial of her beloved Clark yesterday, and this evening, Lois had asked him to take her to the nearest electronics store to buy a digital VMD camera. Not only had he done that, but also he had picked out which VMD camera she should buy, without first asking for her input, and he had insisted on setting it up for her. By then she was livid. Lois remembered the conversation: "Charles Lane Kent, what are you doing?" she had asked, hands on her hips. She remembered how her grandson had cringed visibly at the way she had said his full name, like Clark had used to with his mother. "I'm setting up the camera for you, Grandma," he had answered. "Did I ask you to set it up for me?" Lois had asked, glaring at Charles. "No," he had replied, "but..." "But nothing!" she had interrupted. "I may be ninety-nine years old, but I'm not an invalid! I can certainly set up the camera myself." Lois then grabbed the VMD camera out of his hands and ordered Charles out of her house. He first had tried to give her the puppy-dog look that was a trademark in the Kent family. When she hadn't bought it, her grandson had left, clearly with his tail between his legs. Lois smiled as she remembered the sight of the forty-year-old Charles after she had chewed him out. His actions and mannerisms had been so much like Clark's it was uncanny. But then, those same reminders of Clark brought tears to her eyes. She had not expected Clark to die first. She vaguely recalled the beginning of her marriage to Clark seventy years ago, when she had been afraid that she had aged that he would not age with her. Lois didn't remember what prompted her to have that fear. She later found out, though, that yes, Clark continued to age, though a little slower than normal. But what surprised her was the fact that her aging process slowed a bit, and that she was still in excellent health. 'It was probably Clark's aura that protected me,' she thought. But Clark's aura would protect her no more. December 8, 2066 would be the worst day in her long life, when she had woken up to find that her beloved husband had died peacefully in his sleep. For the first time in over thirty years, she had to cry out, "Help, Superman!" Within seconds, Charles had arrived (he was the current bearer of the Superman name), and then shortly afterwards, five more superheroes had shown up, who with Charles made up Lois and Clark's six grandchildren. Then her and Clark's two children, C.J. and Laura had flown in, accompanied by their spouses. It was a very sad day in the Kent family. Lois could hardly remember what had happened the past three days, because she had been sort of in shock. She had also not cried at all since the morning that she had first found Clark gone. Quietly Charles took care of the funeral arrangements, and yesterday, Clark had been buried in a simple and dignified ceremony in a cemetery on the outskirts of Metropolis. The family gathering after the burial took place later in the day, at Charles' house, because it was much bigger than her and Clark's brownstone -- now her brownstone alone, she reminded herself sadly. She never would have believed that she and Clark would stay in this brownstone for seventy years. Lois in her head knew that nothing lasted forever, and now, after all those years of being married, working together, loving each other, and raising children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren, Clark was gone. A tear rolled down her cheek, then another, and then finally, she was sobbing, finally grieving for her husband, her best friend, her partner, her soulmate. Her tears flowed freely as she wailed Clark's name. In a way, she was happy that Clark did not die alone, as she had feared; he had died with the love of his life in his arms, and that was how she had found him that lonely, sad morning. But now, she was alone. As she wiped her tears, Lois realized that the camera was still running, and that it had recorded her crying her eyes out. Grimacing, she grabbed the remote. Instead of pressing the 'Stop' button she pressed one of the editing buttons by mistake. To her fascination, she saw the image of herself on the screen slowly fade to black. She almost smiled as she looked down at the remote. "That was a neat feature," she said to herself. "Maybe I'll use it." She pressed another button and the image on the screen returned. She glanced up at the clock in the living room as it chimed 10 P.M. Time for bed. Time for another night of sleeping alone. Well, tomorrow was another day, and Lois had a lot work to do. Before turning the camera and the HDTV off she pressed the 'Fade' button again. Fade to black. * * * * * * * * December 13, 2066 Purchasing the VMD camera had been part of a plan for another Lois and Clark collaboration. The great Lane and Kent reporting team at the Daily Planet had ended over forty years ago, when they had assumed some positions on the editorial staff. Nevertheless, they had continued to work together in other things, like writing books or teaching at Metropolis University, Lois' alma mater. Now that Clark had died and buried, Lois was determined to finish this project, the final gift to her and Clark's fourteen great- grandchildren. Tried as they might, Lois and Clark could not find anyone who could figure out how the his globe, which had accompanied him from Krypton to earth a hundred years ago, worked. Clark's doctor and their old friend, Dr. Bernard Klein, could never figure it out, and neither could Dr. Klein's successor at S.T.A.R. Labs, Dr. Emil Hamilton II. A couple of weeks ago, after Thanksgiving, Lois had the idea of making their own 'globe', a series of VMD's for their descendants, explaining the Kryptonian aspect of their heritage. The reason for this was obvious. The ages of their great grandchildren ranged from six to thirteen, and Lois and Clark knew that their deaths would affect them greatly. C.J. and Laura would still be there, as would Lois and Clark's grandchildren; but hopefully, the VMD's would provide their great-grandchildren advice and comfort as they grew up and developed their powers. The past couple of weeks were spent writing on what Lois and Clark had wanted to say in the VMD's. They were about ready to do some recording when Clark had died. Now Lois sat at the kitchen counter, idly pushing some buttons on the food preparer, which would create her breakfast for the day: oatmeal and orange juice. She was lost in thought, as she was reading the PEM (Portable Electronics Manual) for the VMD camera. Unfortunately, because she wasn't paying attention, what she got for breakfast was a bowl of cold oatmeal and a mug of orange juice that was scalding hot. "Technology, what a wonderful thing," she said sarcastically. Shaking her head for her carelessness, she dumped the meal into the sink, set her electronic manual down, and started over in preparing her breakfast. Lois was anxious in getting started. It took her over an hour and a half to eat and set up the video equipment, but finally, she was ready. She pressed the 'Record' button and started talking. "Hello, my dears. If you are watching this, then I am no longer with you on this Earth. I didn't want to go, however, before speaking to all of you. There is so much I want to say to you as you continue to grow into adulthood..." She started with Clark's early life, explaining how his birth parents sent him away from Krypton in a small spaceship to save him from the destruction of their home planet. Lois then talked about the place where the spaceship landed, and how his adopted parents found him, took him in, and raised him as their own son, without any hesitation. Her eyes misted as she talked about his lonely childhood. "As Clark grew up and developed his powers, he had to continually hide himself from everyone, with the exception of his parents, for the fear of being taken away. Because he really had no friends as a child and a teenager, only acquaintences, his parents were the only ones he could turn to when he had problems. I want you to know that your parents and grandparents are here for you, always, whenever you need them. Don't try to keep your feelings bottled up; that's what I did when I was much younger, and a person can only take so much before he or she explodes." She concluded the first VMD with some of Clark's adventures around the world before he moved to Metropolis. Lois had to rely on Clark's notes for those, as she did not remember all of them. Afterwards, she discreetly looked at the clock above the HDLD and found to her amazement that she had been recording for nearly three hours. With that, she grabbed the remote and pressed her favorite button. Fade to black. * * * * * * * * -- Felix E. Sung fsung@justice.loyola.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 12:16:56 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Diyan wrote: > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > * > > > >-- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman > If *I* couldn't get this one... > Okay, shameless plug: to see my attempt at creating > this painting, go to > > I want to reiterate once more how pleased I was that Dia took a few words from one of my stories and based a painting on it. The lady has talent! Irene ===== "All writing is essentially bricks of plagarism secured in place by the mortar of original thinking." --William Dukane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 20:20:04 +0100 Reply-To: "yconnell@ukf.net" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: yconnell Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to everyone who's answered so far - you're all so clever! I never thought of working out the differences between a red sun and a yellow sun. Now I have some techno-babble if I need it from Dr Klein :) Nan and Tara - does astronomy run in your veins? Between you, you've provided some pretty impressive knowledge! So if yellow is at the shorter end of the lightwave spectrum, then I suppose I could get away with a standard sunbed or sunlamp. Now, never having seen a sunlamp in my life - what are they like? Do they produce a fairly narrow beam (so I might need more than one)? How long would an average person spend under one? Are they like table lamps, or do they come on stands? Do you direct the beam towards just part of your body? Do you find them at health clubs? Could you carry them on a motorcycle (no prizes for guessing whose ). Yvonne (yconnell@ukf.net) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 15:25:16 CDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jessi Mounts Subject: Re: The Games People Play Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >* >* >* >* >* >* >* >* >* >* >* >* >* >* >* > > >>-- An abstract painting of Lois and Superman >If *I* couldn't get this one... >Okay, shameless plug: to see my attempt at creating this painting, go to > Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know what it is about Yvonne's e-mail but whenever I click "Reply" to one of her posts on the list, my e-mail always winds up going to her. I may know something about astronomy, but my knowledge of sunlamps is zero. Someone else is going to have to give her the info, please. And hurry. If this is the story I think it is, I don't want to wait much longer! Nan yconnell wrote: > Thanks to everyone who's answered so far - you're all so clever! I never > thought of working out the differences between a red sun and a yellow sun. > Now I have some techno-babble if I need it from Dr Klein :) > > Nan and Tara - does astronomy run in your veins? Between you, you've > provided some pretty impressive knowledge! So if yellow is at the shorter > end of the lightwave spectrum, then I suppose I could get away with a > standard sunbed or sunlamp. > > Now, never having seen a sunlamp in my life - what are they like? Do they > produce a fairly narrow beam (so I might need more than one)? How long > would an average person spend under one? Are they like table lamps, or do > they come on stands? Do you direct the beam towards just part of your > body? Do you find them at health clubs? Could you carry them on a > motorcycle (no prizes for guessing whose ). > > Yvonne > (yconnell@ukf.net) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:58:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Listserv Attachments -- from List Mom In light of the recent virus problems (ILOVEYOU et al), this listserv has now been set to reject all attachments sent with posts. It has always been against our rules to attach documents, but Indiana has now created a way to block these on their listservs, and we have taken advantage of it. So, if anyone "forgets" and tries to send attachments, the listserv should block them. And we can all rest a little easier knowing that our wonderful little fanfic list won't be spreading 'germs'. ;) Kathy List Mom ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:06:49 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: Listserv Attachments -- from List Mom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The only problem being that some enterprising people have started including links in emails that, when clicked, sends you directly to the virus and runs it without your knowing about it. :( My advice would be to make sure you know where you're hyperlinking to. Tara ----- Original Message ----- From: Kathy Brown To: Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 9:58 PM Subject: Listserv Attachments -- from List Mom > In light of the recent virus problems (ILOVEYOU et al), this listserv has now > been set to reject all attachments sent with posts. It has always been > against our rules to attach documents, but Indiana has now created a way to > block these on their listservs, and we have taken advantage of it. > > So, if anyone "forgets" and tries to send attachments, the listserv should > block them. > > And we can all rest a little easier knowing that our wonderful little fanfic > list won't be spreading 'germs'. ;) > > Kathy > List Mom > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 23:27:51 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Threads of Confusion (12/?): Voyager MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D6_01BFBAD7.5BEF2F00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01BFBAD7.5BEF2F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm sorry it's been so long since I last posted, peoples. To make up = for that, I've included a slightly longer piece of the story in this one = (it's at about 2500 words instead of the standard 1700-1800) I've also = included a summary of what has already happened for those of you who = have lost track of what happened :) I'm sure there are more of those = than I'd like to think :) Anyway, FDK of any kind--nitpicking, general plot stuff, the 'I liked = it' kind--anything :) Enjoy! Previously on Threads of Confusion: (cue the appropriate dramatic music) Maggie and Jimmy started the story by breaking up in a very obvious = fashion in the newsroom. Maggie spent Christmas night at LnC's and met = Clark's parents. LnC were blown through a spatial rift to an alien = planet. Maggie, with the help of Clark's parents (who find out that = Maggie=3DSara) and Jimmy, who is willing to help her with this despite = their being broken up (this is bigger than their relationship problems), = investigates the explosion. A mysterious (to you non-ST fans) entity = called Q showed up and threw a spanner into the works by transferring = Maggie's powers to Jimmy. On Voyager, their food supplies have been destroyed by an alien mite. = They stopped at a nearby star system to replenish their food supplies = and were attacked by the natives. The Delta Flyer was shot down by the = aliens and almost crashed, but was caught by a mysterious (only to = them!) humanoid in tights and a cape. They meet his companion, a human = woman, just before they are captured by the xenophobic aliens that are = native to the planet. In a surprising (to them) move, the Doctor comes = to their rescue. They escape from their cell just in time to avoid their = scheduled execution and head back to the Flyer to make good their = escape. And now, the continuation: Threads of Confusion part 12 Neelix jumped into position at the tactical station. Simultaneously, the = Doctor took operations and Seven of Nine took the helm. "Initiating primary systems," Seven announced, her voice as cool and = composed as ever despite the tense situation. Neelix glanced back into the mission module at their two guests and Tom = Paris. Lois and Clark had seated themselves so they could see through = the door which Neelix had set to remain open and into the cockpit. Clark = caught his gaze and gave him a thumbs up signal, which Neelix had = learned from Tom meant all was well--or was it good luck? Reassured that = they were keeping an eye on his friend, Neelix turned back to his = station. "Initiating thrusters," Seven said. There was a brief heaviness as the = damaged systems fought with their sudden acceleration. "Doctor, reroute = power from the warp drive to inertial dampers." "Of course. Rerouting now," the Doctor said. A moment later, the feeling = of acceleration vanished. Something on the Doctors console beeped. "I'm = detecting alien fighter craft approaching from the north." "Time to intercept?" "Five minutes." "Acknowledged," Seven said. "Raise shields." Neelix hurried to comply and was rewarded with a malfunction warning. = "The shields are offline. The shield generators were damaged in the = fight. All we have are navigational." "Then you would do well to "cross your fingers" as Mr. Paris says," = Seven told him. The craft rocked suddenly as the lead ship fired at = them. "Initiating evasive maneuvers." "Returning fire!" Neelix said. He fired phasers at the lead ship. They = hit the shields, but did little damage. "That should have done = something!" "That wasn't five minutes, Mr. Neelix," the Doctor said pointedly. "I know it wasn't! That's how it looked on my scanners! They shouldn't = have gotten here that quickly!" "Agreed. They appear to have displacement fields on their vessels. I = will adjust the scanners." A moment later the fighter ships seemed to jump on Neelix's scanners. = "Firing again!" This time the scanners registered damage to the ship. An instant later = the Flyer again rocked with enemy fire. "Mr. Neelix, reroute shields through the secondary emitters," Seven = instructed. "Right away!" He rerouted the shields just as the fighters fired at them = again. "We've got half shields!" "Good work, Mr. Neelix!" the Doctor praised him. "These fighters appear to be atmospheric vessels," Seven said. "They are = also slower than we are." A moment later, Neelix's controls told him Seven was taking them = directly upward, leaving the alien fighters below them. "We're clearing the atmosphere!" Neelix said. "The atmospheric fighters = are out of range, but I'm picking up the fighters that shot us down = earlier. ETA five minutes." "Acknowledged." "I'm picking up a transmission," the Doctor announced. He looked up at = Neelix, an excited look on his face. "It's Voyager!" "Put it through," Seven instructed. ". . . to the Delta Flyer, please respond," Ensign Harry Kin's face = appeared on a secondary monitor. The image was partially obscured by = static. "Tom, are you there?" Seven pushed a button on her console. "This is the Delta Flyer. Voyager, = we require assistance." Kim's face was replaced by that of Captain Janeway. "We're on our way. = Seven, what's your status?" "We have sustained damage to primary systems. Shields are at 50%." "Understood. Where is Ensign Paris?" "Mr. Paris was rendered unconscious in an altercation with the = inhabitants of the planet. The Doctor has informed me he will recover." Janeway looked relieved. Neelix knew that one of her biggest fears was = to lose one of her crew--it already happened far too often, from her = point of view. She always took it very personally--they were more than = crew to her, they were family. She nodded sharply. "All right. We're on our way. Try to hang on. = Voyager out." The screen blanked. Neelix gave the Doctor a big grin. The Doctor = acknowledged it with a smile of his own. Captain Janeway was on her way = and they knew she would let nothing stand in her way. "What's going on?" Lois called from the mission module. "The cavalry's on it's way!" the Doctor called back to her. "How's Mr. = Paris?" "I think he's waking up," Clark said. "He's moving around like he's in = pain." "I'll be right there." He rose and went quickly into the aft section. Neelix transferred conn to his station just as the Flyer was jolted by a = phaser blast. "Shields are down to forty percent. Returning fire," Neelix said. Seven swerved the ship, narrowly avoiding another blast as Neelix did = his best to damage the attacking vessels. The ship jolted again and the = conn station threw sparks and began to smoke. "Shields are at 32%." Another blast hit them. 23%." On Neelix's monitor, phaser bolts lanced in from above, hitting two of = their attackers. Belatedly, the Flyer's damaged scanners beeped to alert = them to the presence of a larger vessel in close proximity. Seven glanced over her shoulder at Neelix. "I believe Mr. Paris' = expression is "The cavalry has arrived"." Neelix laughed, pleased to hear a human colloquialism from the = ever-sober Seven. Her understanding of humanity was obviously still = progressing by leaps and bounds. Neelix fired at another of the alien vessels. "Their shields are down!" As one, the suddenly outmatched vessels came about and fled the scene as = quickly as possible. "Delta Flyer, prepare for a tractor beam," Captain Janeway's voice said = over the com. "Acknowledged, Captain," Seven replied and glanced back at Neelix. = Neelix could have sworn he saw the ghost of a relieved smile on her = lips. **** **** "Well, Mr. Paris," the Doctor said as he put away his tricorder. "Once = again your thick head has saved you. Despite being rendered unconscious = twice with the bio-energy weapon, you're fine." "Tell that to my head, Doc," Tom Paris complained, rubbing his temple. The doctor picked up a device from a nearby table and adjusted it before = placing it at Paris' neck. "There, that should take care of that." "Thanks, Doc. You're a life saver." Paris jumped off the bed, grinning = at the Doctor. "Naturally," the Doctor said dryly. Clark, standing just a few feet from the two, grinned. He could tell, = despite the holograph's acerbic nature, that he truly cared about his = crew in a way that probably went far beyond any programming he had. Lois, who was standing next to Clark, looked up at him with a look on = her face that told him she was thinking the same thing. The door to the corridor without swished open abruptly to admit a woman = wearing the now-familiar red, black and gray uniform. She had more pips = on her collar than Paris did. That, combined with the air of command she = seemed to practically exude, told him that this was the Captain Janeway = Neelix had spoken of. She walked up to the Doctor and spoke to him quietly for a few minutes. = She patted Paris on the shoulder and smiled at him before turning = towards Lois and Clark. Neelix hurried forward. He had been standing near Lois and Clark. He'd = already been checked over by the Doctor, as had Seven, but neither of = them had left sickbay. "Captain, this is Lois Lane and Clark Kent. They're the ones who helped = us down on the planet," Neelix introduced them. "They were instrumental = in our escape, too." "So I gathered, Mr. Neelix," she said dryly. "Welcome to Voyager. I'm = Captain Kathryn Janeway." "Thank you, Captain," Clark said as he shook the hand she extended to = him. "I hear I have the two of you to thank for saving the lives of my four = crewmen," she said, smiling. "We were just in the right place at the right time," Lois said. "Isn't that the way it always is?" Janeway's smile grew slightly. "I'm = just glad you were there for my crew when they needed help. So, as a way = of thanking you, we're going to help you get home." "You are? Thank you so much." Lois paused and smiled. "It's not that we = don't like it here, it's just . . ." "I understand." Janeway nodded. "It's not home. We've been away from our = homes for almost six years, now. I understand completely." Clark smiled at her. "Thank you." "If it's all right, I do have a few questions for you," she raised an = eyebrow inquiringly. "Go ahead, Captain." "Well, first of all, how did you get out here, so far from Earth?" "We're not really sure of that, ourselves," Lois said. "One minutes we = were standing on a road on Earth, the next we were on that planet. There = was a flash of bright light when it happened, if it helps." "That must have been the anomaly we detected on the planet's surface = forming," she said, nodding as if to herself. "Anomaly?" Clark asked. "Yes, we detected a subspace rift on the surface. We didn't get many = readings when we first detected it, but from what we could tell, the = rift has grown since then. It appears to be expanding at an alarming = rate." Janeway cocked he head to one side. "Mr. Kent, my officers tell = me that you flew up and caught the shuttle." Clark nodded. "That's right. And before you ask, no I can't demonstrate = it for you. Whatever weapon those aliens used, it drained my powers. I = don't think I could lift an inch off of the ground using my powers right = now." "Hmm, that's too bad. Would it be all right with you to work with the = Doctor to determine if he can restore your powers to you?" Clark nodded. "Of course." "All right," she nodded abruptly, as though coming to a decision, and = turned slightly to address her crew. "Mr. Paris, I want you to work with = Seven on the readings we managed to record of the anomaly. See if you = can find a safe way to send our new friends home and close it, if you = can. Doctor, I want you to work with Mr. Kent here and find out what you = can about his powers--and see if you can restore them." "Yes, ma'am," Paris said. The Doctor chimed in with an "Of course, = Captain." "By our rough calculations on the growth rate of the rift, we have until = morning to find and implement a solution. Have your reports ready by = 1600 hours for the staff briefing." She turned back to Clark and Lois. = "I'd like the two of you to be there, too." "All right." She smiled at them, then turned and strode out of sickbay. There was a brief pause, then Paris motioned to Seven. "C'mon, Seven. = We've got some data to sift through." The two quickly left the room. "Clark glanced down at Lois and grinned. "I think we've finally met a = woman as intense as you are, honey!" "Very funny!" Lois elbowed him gently in the ribs and made a face at = him. Neelix, who had been silent since introducing them to the captain, = stepped forward. "I'm sure the two of you are hungry by now. How does a = little food sound?" As if on cue, Clark's stomach rumbled. Lois laughed lightly. "That would = be wonderful, Neelix." The Doctor made a skeptical noise. Neelix ignored him and smiled at Lois = and Clark before he, too, hurried from sickbay. Clark was beginning to = wonder why everyone seemed to be in such a hurry to leave sickbay. What = did they know that he didn't? "Mr. Kent," the Doctor stepped up to him, a medical scanner already in = hand. He'd detatched a part of it and had started running it over = Clark's body. It beeped softly. "Why don't you start by telling me all = you know about how your powers function." The next few hours were nothing like Clark had thought they would be. = There he was, everything about his body being recorded by a doctor = without any worry about being 'dissected like a frog'. This culture = seemed to be very accepting of differences. It was one he would have = loved to be able to live in. The time passed fairly quickly. They were interrupted only by Neelix = returning with two plates of food and a young helper who he introduced = as Naomi Wildman. Lois agreed to go with Neelix to help him out in the = Mess Hall only after she was reassured that she would be informed when = they found out anything significant. Finally, though, the Doctor had run every test he could think of. "Well, the Doctor said at last. "I think it's safe to say that we've = narrowed down the exact spectra you need to recharge your batteries, so = to speak." Clark, who was looking over the Doctor's shoulder at the monitor that = was displaying the results of the tests, nodded. "Now, what?" The Doctor picked up a device from the countertop and quickly changed = settings. "Now, we plug you in to the recharger." "How?" Clark watched curiously as the hologram fiddled with the device. "This," the Doctor indicated the device, "is a dermal regenerator. I am = modifying it to emit different frequencies--the ones you need to power = your abilities, to be exact. All we will need to do is apply this to = your skin. The results should be quicker than with normal Earth = sunlight." He finished making his modifications and turned to Clark. "Let me see = your hand." Clark wordlessly held it out. The Doctor took it in one of his on. He = held the dermal regenerator over Clark's hand and activated it. A warm = yellow light played over his hand as the hologram ran it back and forth, = covering every inch of the exposed skin. A tingling sensation ran up his arm and to his body until it encompassed = his entire body. Clark figured this had to be what Lois had described = feeling when her foot had started to 'wake up' from being sat on for too = long--like pins and needles all over his body. After just a minute or = two, the Doctor deactivated the device and looked at him expectantly. = "Well?" "I definitely felt something. There's only one way to really know, = though." Clark concentrated and was rewarded by his body lifting off the = ground and a full foot into the air. He broke into a wide grin. "It = worked!" "Well, you don't need to sound so surprised," the Doctor muttered as he = began putting his testing equipment away. "You did have the best doctor = in the quadrant helping you, after all." "Thanks, Doctor," Clark said, still grinning widely. He was suffused = almost a feeling of euphoria. He was sure that he and Lois would be able = to go home, now. The man nodded at him absently. Behind Clark, the door the corridor opened. Clark instantly recognized = the heartbeat and breathing of Lois Lane. He turned mid-air and floated = towards her. Lois was accompanied by Naomi Wildman. The girl was standing beside = Lois, a surprised look on her face. "Wow! I wish I could fly like that!" "I guess I'll have to take you flying before we leave, then, Miss = Wildman," he said as he landed in front of the two. Lois stepped forward = and wrapped him in a warm embrace. Clark kissed her lightly, then = stepped back from her. "Just a second, honey." Lois raised her eyebrows at him enquiringly. He just grinned at her. = "Miss Wildman, if you liked the flying part, you'll love this." He quickly spin-changed out of his superman uniform and into the = clothing he'd been wearing before their flight the night before. It was = a good thing he'd brought them along with him. He'd been starting to = feel incredibly conspicuous on Voyager in the outfit. As he slowed to a = stop, he tucked his glasses into his shirt pocket. There was no need for = them, here, after all. "Wow!" Naomi said again. Then she forcibly changed her expression to one = more serious. "The Captain requests your presence in the main briefing = room." Clark raised his eyebrows. "Oh?" "Naomi, here, is the Captain's helper," Lois told him. "Ah!" Clark smiled at the girl. "Well, if you would be so kind as to = escort us there. . ." Naomi giggled, her serious expression vanishing. "Of course! It's this = way." She indicated the direction, then led the way down the corridor. to be continued . . . ------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01BFBAD7.5BEF2F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I'm sorry it's been so long since I last posted,=20 peoples.  To make up for that, I've included a slightly longer = piece of the=20 story in this one (it's at about 2500 words instead of the standard=20 1700-1800)  I've also included a summary of what has already = happened for=20 those of you who have lost track of what happened :)  I'm sure = there are=20 more of those than I'd like to think :)

Anyway, FDK of any kind--nitpicking, general plot = stuff, the=20 'I liked it' kind--anything :)  Enjoy!

 

Previously on Threads of Confusion:

(cue the appropriate dramatic music)

Maggie and Jimmy started the story by breaking up in a very obvious = fashion=20 in the newsroom. Maggie spent Christmas night at LnC's and met Clark's = parents.=20 LnC were blown through a spatial rift to an alien planet. Maggie, with = the help=20 of Clark's parents (who find out that Maggie=3DSara) and Jimmy, who is = willing to=20 help her with this despite their being broken up (this is bigger than = their=20 relationship problems), investigates the explosion. A mysterious (to you = non-ST=20 fans) entity called Q showed up and threw a spanner into the works by=20 transferring Maggie's powers to Jimmy.

On Voyager, their food supplies have been destroyed by an alien mite. = They=20 stopped at a nearby star system to replenish their food supplies and = were=20 attacked by the natives. The Delta Flyer was shot down by the aliens and = almost=20 crashed, but was caught by a mysterious (only to them!) humanoid in = tights and a=20 cape. They meet his companion, a human woman, just before they are = captured by=20 the xenophobic aliens that are native to the planet. In a surprising (to = them)=20 move, the Doctor comes to their rescue. They escape from their cell just = in time=20 to avoid their scheduled execution and head back to the Flyer to make = good their=20 escape.

And now, the continuation:

Threads of Confusion part 12

 

Neelix jumped into position at the tactical station. Simultaneously, = the=20 Doctor took operations and Seven of Nine took the helm.

"Initiating primary systems," Seven announced, her voice as cool and = composed=20 as ever despite the tense situation.

Neelix glanced back into the mission module at their two guests and = Tom=20 Paris. Lois and Clark had seated themselves so they could see through = the door=20 which Neelix had set to remain open and into the cockpit. Clark caught = his gaze=20 and gave him a thumbs up signal, which Neelix had learned from Tom meant = all was=20 well--or was it good luck? Reassured that they were keeping an eye on = his=20 friend, Neelix turned back to his station.

"Initiating thrusters," Seven said. There was a brief heaviness as = the=20 damaged systems fought with their sudden acceleration. "Doctor, reroute = power=20 from the warp drive to inertial dampers."

"Of course. Rerouting now," the Doctor said. A moment later, the = feeling of=20 acceleration vanished. Something on the Doctors console beeped. = "I’m detecting=20 alien fighter craft approaching from the north."

"Time to intercept?"

"Five minutes."

"Acknowledged," Seven said. "Raise shields."

Neelix hurried to comply and was rewarded with a malfunction warning. = "The=20 shields are offline. The shield generators were damaged in the fight. = All we=20 have are navigational."

"Then you would do well to "cross your fingers" as Mr. Paris says," = Seven=20 told him. The craft rocked suddenly as the lead ship fired at them. = "Initiating=20 evasive maneuvers."

"Returning fire!" Neelix said. He fired phasers at the lead ship. = They hit=20 the shields, but did little damage. "That should have done = something!"

"That wasn’t five minutes, Mr. Neelix," the Doctor said = pointedly.

"I know it wasn’t! That’s how it looked on my scanners! = They shouldn’t have=20 gotten here that quickly!"

"Agreed. They appear to have displacement fields on their vessels. I = will=20 adjust the scanners."

A moment later the fighter ships seemed to jump on Neelix’s = scanners. "Firing=20 again!"

This time the scanners registered damage to the ship. An instant = later the=20 Flyer again rocked with enemy fire.

"Mr. Neelix, reroute shields through the secondary emitters," Seven=20 instructed.

"Right away!" He rerouted the shields just as the fighters fired at = them=20 again. "We’ve got half shields!"

"Good work, Mr. Neelix!" the Doctor praised him.

"These fighters appear to be atmospheric vessels," Seven said. "They = are also=20 slower than we are."

A moment later, Neelix’s controls told him Seven was taking = them directly=20 upward, leaving the alien fighters below them.

"We’re clearing the atmosphere!" Neelix said. "The atmospheric = fighters are=20 out of range, but I’m picking up the fighters that shot us down = earlier. ETA=20 five minutes."

"Acknowledged."

"I’m picking up a transmission," the Doctor announced. He = looked up at=20 Neelix, an excited look on his face. "It’s Voyager!"

"Put it through," Seven instructed.

". . . to the Delta Flyer, please respond," Ensign Harry = Kin’s face=20 appeared on a secondary monitor. The image was partially obscured by = static.=20 "Tom, are you there?"

Seven pushed a button on her console. "This is the Delta = Flyer.=20 Voyager, we require assistance."

Kim’s face was replaced by that of Captain Janeway. = "We’re on our way. Seven,=20 what’s your status?"

"We have sustained damage to primary systems. Shields are at = 50%."

"Understood. Where is Ensign Paris?"

"Mr. Paris was rendered unconscious in an altercation with the = inhabitants of=20 the planet. The Doctor has informed me he will recover."

Janeway looked relieved. Neelix knew that one of her biggest fears = was to=20 lose one of her crew--it already happened far too often, from her point = of view.=20 She always took it very personally--they were more than crew to her, = they were=20 family.

She nodded sharply. "All right. We’re on our way. Try to hang = on. Voyager=20 out."

The screen blanked. Neelix gave the Doctor a big grin. The Doctor=20 acknowledged it with a smile of his own. Captain Janeway was on her way = and they=20 knew she would let nothing stand in her way.

"What’s going on?" Lois called from the mission module.

"The cavalry’s on it’s way!" the Doctor called back to = her. "How’s Mr.=20 Paris?"

"I think he’s waking up," Clark said. "He’s moving around = like he’s in=20 pain."

"I’ll be right there." He rose and went quickly into the aft = section.

Neelix transferred conn to his station just as the Flyer was = jolted by=20 a phaser blast.

"Shields are down to forty percent. Returning fire," Neelix said.

Seven swerved the ship, narrowly avoiding another blast as Neelix did = his=20 best to damage the attacking vessels. The ship jolted again and the conn = station=20 threw sparks and began to smoke.

"Shields are at 32%." Another blast hit them. 23%."

On Neelix’s monitor, phaser bolts lanced in from above, hitting = two of their=20 attackers. Belatedly, the Flyer’s damaged scanners beeped = to alert them=20 to the presence of a larger vessel in close proximity.

Seven glanced over her shoulder at Neelix. "I believe Mr. = Paris’ expression=20 is "The cavalry has arrived"."

Neelix laughed, pleased to hear a human colloquialism from the = ever-sober=20 Seven. Her understanding of humanity was obviously still progressing by = leaps=20 and bounds.

Neelix fired at another of the alien vessels. "Their shields are = down!"

As one, the suddenly outmatched vessels came about and fled the scene = as=20 quickly as possible.

"Delta Flyer, prepare for a tractor beam," Captain = Janeway’s voice=20 said over the com.

"Acknowledged, Captain," Seven replied and glanced back at Neelix. = Neelix=20 could have sworn he saw the ghost of a relieved smile on her lips.

**** ****

"Well, Mr. Paris," the Doctor said as he put away his tricorder. = "Once again=20 your thick head has saved you. Despite being rendered unconscious twice = with the=20 bio-energy weapon, you're fine."

"Tell that to my head, Doc," Tom Paris complained, rubbing his = temple.

The doctor picked up a device from a nearby table and adjusted it = before=20 placing it at Paris' neck. "There, that should take care of that."

"Thanks, Doc. You're a life saver." Paris jumped off the bed, = grinning at the=20 Doctor.

"Naturally," the Doctor said dryly.

Clark, standing just a few feet from the two, grinned. He could tell, = despite=20 the holograph's acerbic nature, that he truly cared about his crew in a = way that=20 probably went far beyond any programming he had.

Lois, who was standing next to Clark, looked up at him with a look on = her=20 face that told him she was thinking the same thing.

The door to the corridor without swished open abruptly to admit a = woman=20 wearing the now-familiar red, black and gray uniform. She had more pips = on her=20 collar than Paris did. That, combined with the air of command she seemed = to=20 practically exude, told him that this was the Captain Janeway Neelix had = spoken=20 of.

She walked up to the Doctor and spoke to him quietly for a few = minutes. She=20 patted Paris on the shoulder and smiled at him before turning towards = Lois and=20 Clark.

Neelix hurried forward. He had been standing near Lois and Clark. = He'd=20 already been checked over by the Doctor, as had Seven, but neither of = them had=20 left sickbay.

"Captain, this is Lois Lane and Clark Kent. They're the ones who = helped us=20 down on the planet," Neelix introduced them. "They were instrumental in = our=20 escape, too."

"So I gathered, Mr. Neelix," she said dryly. "Welcome to Voyager. I'm = Captain=20 Kathryn Janeway."

"Thank you, Captain," Clark said as he shook the hand she extended to = him.

"I hear I have the two of you to thank for saving the lives of my = four=20 crewmen," she said, smiling.

"We were just in the right place at the right time," Lois said.

"Isn't that the way it always is?" Janeway's smile grew slightly. = "I’m just=20 glad you were there for my crew when they needed help. So, as a way of = thanking=20 you, we’re going to help you get home."

"You are? Thank you so much." Lois paused and smiled. "It’s not = that we don’t=20 like it here, it’s just . . ."

"I understand." Janeway nodded. "It’s not home. We’ve = been away from our=20 homes for almost six years, now. I understand completely."

Clark smiled at her. "Thank you."

"If it's all right, I do have a few questions for you," she raised an = eyebrow=20 inquiringly.

"Go ahead, Captain."

"Well, first of all, how did you get out here, so far from = Earth?"

"We're not really sure of that, ourselves," Lois said. "One minutes = we were=20 standing on a road on Earth, the next we were on that planet. There was = a flash=20 of bright light when it happened, if it helps."

"That must have been the anomaly we detected on the planet's surface=20 forming," she said, nodding as if to herself.

"Anomaly?" Clark asked.

"Yes, we detected a subspace rift on the surface. We didn't get many = readings=20 when we first detected it, but from what we could tell, the rift has = grown since=20 then. It appears to be expanding at an alarming rate." Janeway cocked he = head to=20 one side. "Mr. Kent, my officers tell me that you flew up and caught the = shuttle."

Clark nodded. "That's right. And before you ask, no I can't = demonstrate it=20 for you. Whatever weapon those aliens used, it drained my powers. I = don't think=20 I could lift an inch off of the ground using my powers right now."

"Hmm, that's too bad. Would it be all right with you to work with the = Doctor=20 to determine if he can restore your powers to you?"

Clark nodded. "Of course."

"All right," she nodded abruptly, as though coming to a decision, and = turned=20 slightly to address her crew. "Mr. Paris, I want you to work with Seven = on the=20 readings we managed to record of the anomaly. See if you can find a safe = way to=20 send our new friends home and close it, if you can. Doctor, I want you = to work=20 with Mr. Kent here and find out what you can about his powers--and see = if you=20 can restore them."

"Yes, ma'am," Paris said. The Doctor chimed in with an "Of course,=20 Captain."

"By our rough calculations on the growth rate of the rift, we have = until=20 morning to find and implement a solution. Have your reports ready by = 1600 hours=20 for the staff briefing." She turned back to Clark and Lois. "I’d = like the two of=20 you to be there, too."

"All right."

She smiled at them, then turned and strode out of sickbay.

There was a brief pause, then Paris motioned to Seven. "C'mon, Seven. = We've=20 got some data to sift through."

The two quickly left the room.

"Clark glanced down at Lois and grinned. "I think we've finally met a = woman=20 as intense as you are, honey!"

"Very funny!" Lois elbowed him gently in the ribs and made a face at = him.

Neelix, who had been silent since introducing them to the captain, = stepped=20 forward. "I'm sure the two of you are hungry by now. How does a little = food=20 sound?"

As if on cue, Clark's stomach rumbled. Lois laughed lightly. "That = would be=20 wonderful, Neelix."

The Doctor made a skeptical noise. Neelix ignored him and smiled at = Lois and=20 Clark before he, too, hurried from sickbay. Clark was beginning to = wonder why=20 everyone seemed to be in such a hurry to leave sickbay. What did they = know that=20 he didn't?

"Mr. Kent," the Doctor stepped up to him, a medical scanner already = in hand.=20 He'd detatched a part of it and had started running it over Clark's = body. It=20 beeped softly. "Why don't you start by telling me all you know about how = your=20 powers function."

The next few hours were nothing like Clark had thought they would be. = There=20 he was, everything about his body being recorded by a doctor without any = worry=20 about being 'dissected like a frog'. This culture seemed to be very = accepting of=20 differences. It was one he would have loved to be able to live in.

The time passed fairly quickly. They were interrupted only by Neelix=20 returning with two plates of food and a young helper who he introduced = as Naomi=20 Wildman. Lois agreed to go with Neelix to help him out in the Mess Hall = only=20 after she was reassured that she would be informed when they found out = anything=20 significant.

Finally, though, the Doctor had run every test he could think of.

"Well, the Doctor said at last. "I think it's safe to say that we've = narrowed=20 down the exact spectra you need to recharge your batteries, so to = speak."

Clark, who was looking over the Doctor's shoulder at the monitor that = was=20 displaying the results of the tests, nodded. "Now, what?"

The Doctor picked up a device from the countertop and quickly changed = settings. "Now, we plug you in to the recharger."

"How?" Clark watched curiously as the hologram fiddled with the = device.

"This," the Doctor indicated the device, "is a dermal regenerator. I = am=20 modifying it to emit different frequencies--the ones you need to power = your=20 abilities, to be exact. All we will need to do is apply this to your = skin. The=20 results should be quicker than with normal Earth sunlight."

He finished making his modifications and turned to Clark. "Let me see = your=20 hand."

Clark wordlessly held it out. The Doctor took it in one of his on. He = held=20 the dermal regenerator over Clark's hand and activated it. A warm yellow = light=20 played over his hand as the hologram ran it back and forth, covering = every inch=20 of the exposed skin.

A tingling sensation ran up his arm and to his body until it = encompassed his=20 entire body. Clark figured this had to be what Lois had described = feeling when=20 her foot had started to 'wake up' from being sat on for too long--like = pins and=20 needles all over his body. After just a minute or two, the Doctor = deactivated=20 the device and looked at him expectantly. "Well?"

"I definitely felt something. There's only one way to really know, = though."=20 Clark concentrated and was rewarded by his body lifting off the ground = and a=20 full foot into the air. He broke into a wide grin. "It worked!"

"Well, you don't need to sound so surprised," the Doctor muttered as = he began=20 putting his testing equipment away. "You did have the best doctor in the = quadrant helping you, after all."

"Thanks, Doctor," Clark said, still grinning widely. He was suffused = almost a=20 feeling of euphoria. He was sure that he and Lois would be able to go = home,=20 now.

The man nodded at him absently.

Behind Clark, the door the corridor opened. Clark instantly = recognized the=20 heartbeat and breathing of Lois Lane. He turned mid-air and floated = towards=20 her.

Lois was accompanied by Naomi Wildman. The girl was standing beside = Lois, a=20 surprised look on her face. "Wow! I wish I could fly like that!"

"I guess I'll have to take you flying before we leave, then, Miss = Wildman,"=20 he said as he landed in front of the two. Lois stepped forward and = wrapped him=20 in a warm embrace. Clark kissed her lightly, then stepped back from her. = "Just a=20 second, honey."

Lois raised her eyebrows at him enquiringly. He just grinned at her. = "Miss=20 Wildman, if you liked the flying part, you'll love this."

He quickly spin-changed out of his superman uniform and into the = clothing=20 he'd been wearing before their flight the night before. It was a good = thing he'd=20 brought them along with him. He'd been starting to feel incredibly = conspicuous=20 on Voyager in the outfit. As he slowed to a stop, he tucked his glasses = into his=20 shirt pocket. There was no need for them, here, after all.

"Wow!" Naomi said again. Then she forcibly changed her expression to = one more=20 serious. "The Captain requests your presence in the main briefing = room."

Clark raised his eyebrows. "Oh?"

"Naomi, here, is the Captain's helper," Lois told him.

"Ah!" Clark smiled at the girl. "Well, if you would be so kind as to = escort=20 us there. . ."

Naomi giggled, her serious expression vanishing. "Of course! It's = this=20 way."

She indicated the direction, then led the way down the corridor.

to be continued . .=20 .

------=_NextPart_000_00D6_01BFBAD7.5BEF2F00-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:02:06 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Phillip Atcliffe Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question In-Reply-To: <01BFBAC1.500AC200.yconnell@ukf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Wed, 10 May 2000 20:20:04 +0100 yconnell wrote: > Nan and Tara - does astronomy run in your veins? Between you, you've provided some pretty impressive knowledge! So if yellow is at the shorter end of the lightwave spectrum, then I suppose I could get away with a standard sunbed or sunlamp. < Someone (Nan?) suggested that I add my bit on this, and from what you say above, Yvonne, maybe I should clarify a couple of things. I won't try to go into the astronomy, which Nan and Tara covered more than adequately, but I'm not sure that you've quite got the idea as regards wavelengths, etc. -- or that's the impression that I get from what you wrote. My apologies in advance if I'm misunderstanding you. What caught my attention was the statement that "yellow is at the shorter end of the lightwave spectrum." That made my cyber-ears prick up, because yellow light is generally considered to be at the _longer_ end of the spectrum; but then I stopped to think, and realised that it's all relative anyway . Compared to red light and IR, yellow light has a shorter wavelength (which also equates to more energy per photon), but compared to green, blue, violet and UV light, it's a long wavelength, low energy kind of light. You also need to remember that, despite our sun being described as a yellow sun, it actually puts out a lot of the other colours as well, or we wouldn't have "white" light -- which is all the colours of the visible spectrum mixed together -- as well as a considerable amount of UV (hence sunburn, said the pale-skinned engineer), radio and other EM stuff. A red star, being cooler, doesn't give off much, if any, of the higher frequencies (I _think_); it's mostly red light, IR, radio, etc. > Now, never having seen a sunlamp in my life - what are they like? Do they produce a fairly narrow beam (so I might need more than one)? How long would an average person spend under one? Are they like table lamps, or do they come on stands? Do you direct the beam towards just part of your body? Do you find them at health clubs? Could you carry them on a motorcycle (no prizes for guessing whose ). < Important point: sunlamps are intended to help people tan, so they are primarily designed to put out UV rays (which are shorter in wavelength and higher in energy than any visible light, so that might be helpful). Other than that, I think they come in a range of sizes, from table lamp to something bigger -- although, when you get to the larger sizes, they tend to become part of sunbeds or "tanning cubicles", both of which can be found in health clubs. Phil, who has spent far too much time in the past attempting to get a tan, with almost total lack of success. Some of us are simply meant to live in high latitudes... ------------------------------------------------------------ Gravity is a Downer... So let's go flying! -- so sayeth Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 03:40:04 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Fanfiction Links Hey there! Trawling through FanFiction.net, I noticed that the links page is conspicuously empty for Lois and Clark. So, come on you site owners - get on over there and fly the flag! Only problem is that I've tried to put in a link for the Fanfic Archive three times and each time I get an error page. Don't know what I'm doing wrong as it seems simple enough, but perhaps someone else will have better luck. Go for it. ;) LabRat :) "Acting is all about honesty. If you can fake that, you've got it made." -- George Burns. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:00:09 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000510143749.00916c10@actcom.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Alll righty! I'm not sure if there's been no reaction because the initial interest died down, or because no one has yet figured out the fics. Well, just in case it's the latter, I'm offering one last clue for these two stories. A fic containing: >>-- a bent magic wand > >This fic also has two spaceships. This fic also has two children in Halloween costume. A fic containing: >>-- liquid green Kryptonite > >This fic also has an absent wedding ring This fic also has a rock quarry. Any takers? :) Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 08:33:00 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Terry S. Horowit" Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000511144920.008fdb20@actcom.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Alll righty! I'm not sure if there's been no reaction because the initial >interest died down, or because no one has yet figured out the fics. Well, >just in case it's the latter, I'm offering one last clue for these two >stories. > >A fic containing: > >>>-- a bent magic wand >> >>This fic also has two spaceships. > >This fic also has two children in Halloween costume. > >A fic containing: > >>>-- liquid green Kryptonite >> >>This fic also has an absent wedding ring > >This fic also has a rock quarry. > >Any takers? :) OK, Hazel. I still have no clue about the wand, but the liquid green K is from a recent fic by Tank Wilson called "Video Ex." Terry ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:44:16 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question On Thu, 11 May 2000 09:02:06 +0100, Phillip Atcliffe wrote: >What caught my attention was the statement that "yellow is at >the shorter end of the lightwave spectrum." I realised this was probably a somewhat loose statement, Phil, but thanks for explaining why :) I'm getting a bit lost on the terminology - is this right? : higher frequency = short wavelength = high energy lower frequency = long wavelength = low energy (I know I'm not using the equals sign correctly, but you know what I mean!) The light energy range goes (lowest first, and only listing them in the groupings we've been discussing): red light/IR/radio/other EM stuff (whatever that is!) yellow green, blue, violet UV light Sun lamps give off UV light, which we've concluded the red star wouldn't offer much of, so it looks like the best contender for re-energising Superman. However, what's bothering me now is that in that ep where Superman is blinded, isn't it a UV light emitter fired directly into his eyes which blinds him? So maybe I'd need to give him sunglasses along with his sunlamp? And do you get hot under a sunlamp or sunbed? Sorry - this must be getting a bit tiresome for anyone not interested in the light spectrum, but I think we're nearly done now! Oh, and yes, Nan, this *is* the fanfic you think it is, but don't worry about the wait, because this is for stuff which is at least 20 pages on from where I am on the boards :) Yvonne (who would ask her colleagues at work about this, but is too embarrassed to admit it's for a fanfic she's writing!) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 05:46:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Hazel wrote: > Alll righty! I'm not sure if there's been no > reaction because the initial > interest died down, or because no one has yet > figured out the fics. Well, > just in case it's the latter, I'm offering one last > clue for these two > stories. > > A fic containing: > > >>-- a bent magic wand > > > >This fic also has two spaceships. > > This fic also has two children in Halloween costume. > > A fic containing: > > >>-- liquid green Kryptonite > > > >This fic also has an absent wedding ring > > This fic also has a rock quarry. > > Any takers? :) > > Hazel Okay, now I know the first one - it's Trick or Treat by Doc Klein's Labrat - a really funny story! And the second one's by Tank Wilson - Video Ex, I think Irene ===== "All writing is essentially bricks of plagarism secured in place by the mortar of original thinking." --William Dukane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:50:35 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: Re: The Games People Play OK, Hazel, that helped a lot! S P O I L E R S P A C E >A fic containing: > >>>-- a bent magic wand >> >>This fic also has two spaceships. > >This fic also has two children in Halloween costume. > This is by Labrat, but I can't remember the name of it. It's a short story about two kids scaring away the NK invasion during Halloween. >A fic containing: > >>>-- liquid green Kryptonite >> >>This fic also has an absent wedding ring > >This fic also has a rock quarry. > I figured this out from the liquid green K clue the other day when I was scanning some archives - it's Tank's story where Lois gets injected with the liquid K. Possibly Video Ex? Yvonne ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 06:19:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Novels vs. Short Stories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is not specifically a Lois and Clark query but it does have to do with creative writing. Does anyone have a handy definition of what length a novel is, versus a novella versus a short story? I would prefer the definition to be by word count rather than page length. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Irene ===== "All writing is essentially bricks of plagarism secured in place by the mortar of original thinking." --William Dukane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:28:37 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Phillip Atcliffe Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 11 May 2000 07:44:16 -0500 Yvonne Connell wrote: > I'm getting a bit lost on the [EM spectrum] terminology - is this right? : > higher frequency = short wavelength = high energy > lower frequency = long wavelength = low energy > (I know I'm not using the equals sign correctly, but you know what I mean!) Yep. Got it in one. The energy in a photon is directly proportional to the frequency, so double the frequency and you get twice the energy (and the wavelength halves, BTW). > The light energy range goes (lowest first, and only listing them in the groupings we've been discussing): [snip] You're pretty right. Just to clarify it for you, it goes (from low energy to high): Radio IR ("infra-red", or lower than red) Visible light: Red Orange Yellow Green Blue Indigo Violet UV ("ultra-violet", or higher than violet) X-rays Gamma rays > Sun lamps give off UV light, which we've concluded the red star wouldn't offer much of, so it looks like the best contender for re-energising Superman. > However, what's bothering me now is that in that ep where Superman is blinded, isn't it a UV light emitter fired directly into his eyes which blinds him? So maybe I'd need to give him sunglasses along with his sunlamp? And do you get hot under a sunlamp or sunbed? < I can't remember, but it could make sense for a person born under a red sun to be sensitive to UV light. Of course, Superman is "traditionally" represented as being able to _see_ UV light, so we're getting a bit contradictory here... (so what else is new? ) Certainly, protective goggles or whatever are appropriate. I don't have a lot of experience with sunbeds, but when I tried a tanning cubicle too many years ago, if you didn't wear goggles, you didn't use the thing! I kept my eyes shut anyway -- after all, it wasn't like you could do anything other than just stand there; bo-oo-oring... And no, I couldn't feel a thing. It's like getting sunburnt on a cold day -- you don't know it's happening until the burning starts, and then you feel _that!_ > Yvonne (who would ask her colleagues at work about this, but is too embarrassed to admit it's for a fanfic she's writing!) < So don't admit it... Asking about tanning is surely a reasonable topic for casual discussion; just be ready to deal with zealots, both pro- and anti-tanning, and for follow-ups. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------ "I think... I think I am! | I think _I_ am: Therefore I am... I think?" | Phil Atcliffe -- The Moody Blues | (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:01:46 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yvonne, Yes, it was ultra-violet light that was used to blind Superman. It would do the same thing to a normal human if they got heavy doses in the eyes (not as fast as with Superman. The writers took some liberties there.) Ultra-violet light in the eyes causes cataracts.(and, no, infra-red is *not* the cure). The best defense for that on a daily basis is a pair of ultra-violet opaque sunglasses that block at least 99% of both UVA and UVB. What is used for people who use sunlamps for tanning is usually something like a thick cloth to cover the eyes. Keeping your eyes closed also works. Nan Yvonne Connell wrote: > On Thu, 11 May 2000 09:02:06 +0100, Phillip Atcliffe > wrote: > > >What caught my attention was the statement that "yellow is at > >the shorter end of the lightwave spectrum." > > I realised this was probably a somewhat loose statement, Phil, but thanks > for explaining why :) > > I'm getting a bit lost on the terminology - is this right? : > > higher frequency = short wavelength = high energy > lower frequency = long wavelength = low energy > > (I know I'm not using the equals sign correctly, but you know what I mean!) > > The light energy range goes (lowest first, and only listing them in the > groupings we've been discussing): > > red light/IR/radio/other EM stuff (whatever that is!) > > yellow > > green, blue, violet > > UV light > > Sun lamps give off UV light, which we've concluded the red star wouldn't > offer much of, so it looks like the best contender for re-energising > Superman. > > However, what's bothering me now is that in that ep where Superman is > blinded, isn't it a UV light emitter fired directly into his eyes which > blinds him? So maybe I'd need to give him sunglasses along with his > sunlamp? And do you get hot under a sunlamp or sunbed? > > Sorry - this must be getting a bit tiresome for anyone not interested in > the light spectrum, but I think we're nearly done now! > > Oh, and yes, Nan, this *is* the fanfic you think it is, but don't worry > about the wait, because this is for stuff which is at least 20 pages on > from where I am on the boards :) > > Yvonne > (who would ask her colleagues at work about this, but is too embarrassed to > admit it's for a fanfic she's writing!) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:19:57 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Phil wrote: <> So would that mean that a red sun wouldn't give off white light? Would things on Krypton be different colors than on Earth? Or are you saying that a red star might give off the color spectrum plus IR (the long wavelength end of the spectrum) but not UV, gamma (the high wavelength end). <> Another important note about UV light: it is carcinogenic. At least to Earth animals; perhaps not to Kryptonians? I am currently (but not for long ;) doing biology research on a fungus. We have one mutant strain of the fungus which responds more quickly to gravity. This mutant strain was created by UV radiation (not by us). The reason UV light can cause cancer and such mutations is that it can mess up your DNA. Hence, the risk of skin cancer when you use a tanning bed (or even the sun) to sunbathe. << Phil, who has spent far too much time in the past attempting to get a tan, with almost total lack of success. Some of us are simply meant to live in high latitudes... >> Christy, who has given up on ever being tanner than "ghost white," and who is certain it will benefit in the long run, when I'm the only of my friends and family without skin cancer... "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:37:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: The Games People Play On Thu, 11 May 2000 07:00:09 -0500, Hazel wrote: >Alll righty! I'm not sure if there's been no reaction because the initial >interest died down, or because no one has yet figured out the fics. Well, >just in case it's the latter, I'm offering one last clue for these two >stories. > >A fic containing: > >>>-- a bent magic wand >> >>This fic also has two spaceships. > >This fic also has two children in Halloween costume. > L A B R A T S C O O L S P O I L E R S P A C E Hazel, you ol' hounddog, you! LOL! You did it to me again! I didn't for one moment recognise this as my own Trick or Treat! Not with the magic wand or the spaceships. Geesh, twice in one week... Anyway, no wonder no one's recognised it! Irene wrote: >Okay, now I know the first one - it's Trick or Treat >by Doc Klein's Labrat - a really funny story! Thanks, Irene! :) LabRat :) labrat@cableinet.co.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:42:49 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit According to what I understand, a red sun gives off mostly red and infra-red (as well as radiation in bands lower than IF, such as radio) but it does give off some of the other, higher bands as well. Just not very much of it. Things would probably look different under a red sun; you've probably seen what things look like under red light. It also wouldn't be as bright, because red stars just plain don't give off as much light as the hotter stars. Nan kubitc wrote: > Phil wrote: > < sun, it actually puts out a lot of the other colours as well, or we wouldn't > have "white" light -- which is all the colours of the visible spectrum mixed > together -- as well as a considerable amount of UV (hence sunburn, said the > pale-skinned engineer), radio and other EM stuff. A red star, being cooler, > doesn't give off much, if any, of the higher frequencies (I _think_); it's > mostly red light, IR, radio, etc. >> > > So would that mean that a red sun wouldn't give off white light? Would things > on Krypton be different colors than on Earth? Or are you saying that a red > star might give off the color spectrum plus IR (the long wavelength end of the > spectrum) but not UV, gamma (the high wavelength end). > > < primarily designed to put out UV rays (which are shorter in wavelength and > higher in energy than any visible light, so that might be helpful).>> > > Another important note about UV light: it is carcinogenic. At least to Earth > animals; perhaps not to Kryptonians? I am currently (but not for long ;) doing > biology research on a fungus. We have one mutant strain of the fungus which > responds more quickly to gravity. This mutant strain was created by UV > radiation (not by us). The reason UV light can cause cancer and such mutations > is that it can mess up your DNA. Hence, the risk of skin cancer when you use a > tanning bed (or even the sun) to sunbathe. > > << Phil, who has spent far too much time in the past attempting to get a tan, > with almost total lack of success. Some of us are simply meant to live in high > latitudes... >> > > Christy, who has given up on ever being tanner than "ghost white," and who is > certain it will benefit in the long run, when I'm the only of my friends and > family without skin cancer... > > "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:46:26 GMT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bethy Em Subject: Legal Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hey y'all, I'm writing a story (which I will begin posting soon), but I have a question first. If a man has physically and emotionally abused his wife (pregnant, btw, if it makes any difference) and she chooses to press charges (and divorce him) what kind of penalties would he get? Fines? Jail time? Required counseling? How much? Stuff like that. And this is in Metropolis, so I guess it would be consistent with US regulations. Thanks! Bethy ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:20:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: Legal Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >If a man has physically and emotionally abused his wife (pregnant, >btw, if it makes any difference) and she chooses to press charges (and >divorce him) what kind of penalties would he get? Fines? Jail time? >Required counseling? How much? Stuff like that. And this is in >Metropolis, so I guess it would be consistent with US regulations. Bethy, this depends to a great deal on the judge assigned to the case. The (state) law contains recommended penalty ranges, but the actual chosen punishment depends on the judge. There are even a handful of judges who employ unique, contreversial punishments. I remember hearing about one judge who had a young shoplifter stand outside the store from which he stole, wearing a sign saying "I stole from this store" on one side, and "I am a thief" on the other. My best guess for the case you described would be that the man (and I use this term loosely) would get jail time, and perhaps counseling or a fine. I believe the fact that his victim is pregnant could augment his sentence. I *think* (but am not sure) that this punishment would be primarily for the physical abuse, as it is difficult to record and judge emotional abuse. If they are divorcing, that introduces a whole new element into the picture. They would have a separate procedure for the divorce, along with probably a different judge. In the divorce proceedings, the wife would probably get more of their accumulated stuff as well as custody of the child. Hope that helps. Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 11:40:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, since all the fics have now been identified, I will post the complete list and scores. My apologies, BTW, to the few FoLCs who posted answers to the first list after I'd already tallied up points. My additional apologies to anyone who does the same with these after this e-mail. :) Here's the list, including the number of clues required to identify each fic: The first fic required three clues for identification: -- a bent magic wand This fic also has two spaceships. This fic also has two children in Halloween costume. This was "Trick or Treat," by Labrat. The second fic: -- Frangos This was "Labor Day," the IRC RR group. The third fic: -- a silver picture frame This was SinginDrew's "Presents." The fourth fic: -- graffiti burned into a cell wall This was "So Strong a Foundation," by Wendy Richards. The fifth fic: -- a helicopter struck by lightning "LiaD3: Pygamalion," by Mobile Richard. The final fic also required three clues for identification: -- liquid green Kryptonite This fic also has an absent wedding ring This fic also has a rock quarry. This fic is "Video Ex," by Tank Wilson. Now, for the scoring: Wendy gets 35 points (unless SinginDrew is named Kristin, in which case, she gets 40), Pam gets 20 points, Yvonne gets 16 points, Terry gets 4 points, Irene gets 8 points, and Labrat gets 4 points. Shall we do this again next week, or are you all tired of this? BTW, Labrat wrote: >Hazel, you ol' hounddog, you! I resent that remark. I may chew their ropes, but I am *not* a dog! Take that back immediately, or El-ahrairah will come and hunt you down. ;p Hazel, sunning herself on the grassy slopes ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:43:30 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: OT: Help: Need website URL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone ;) Sorry if this is a little off topic, but could someone help me? I've been trying to get to Debby's ftp LNC picture page, but haven't had any luck these past two days. I either get socket errors or "Anonymous Access Denied" errors. Do I have the wrong URL or something? If anyone could help me out by letting me know the correct URL, I'd be grateful. Also, does anyone know of a good site that has a lot of screen captures available for download? Thanks! Erin :) __________________ erink@ida.net Visit my LNC/Kerth Website: www.ida.net/users/davek ***** "It's not the years that count, it's the moments...right now, as they happen." __________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 10:11:32 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow! I knew I'd be fascinated by the answers that came back on this question. The breadth of knowledge in this group continues to amaze. Who needs a search engine? We're alike in our love for L&C and different in our interests and expertise. Viva la difference! Jude ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 13:10:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't write in 'cause I figured everyone would get it :) but if they haven't... > A fic containing: > > >>-- a bent magic wand > > > >This fic also has two spaceships. > At that point I figured it was probably LabRat's "Trick or Treat" and your third hint confirms it. Funny story! > A fic containing: > > >>-- liquid green Kryptonite > > > >This fic also has an absent wedding ring > > This fic also has a rock quarry Are you sure you don't mean a pit? :D That's Tank's Video Ex, and I didn't get this one until the pit clue was added in... -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:29:56 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question Thanks again, Phil, Nan, and Christy. I think I've got everything I need to write the next part of FoD3 when I get home tonight :) BTW, for a fascinating viewpoint on how things might look under a red sun, try reading Jenni's NK series, Universal Union. I know Hazel also has some ideas on this subject. I'm interested to hear that the series writers actually borrowed from reality when they made UV light the cause of Superman's blindness - seems they were more careful with their facts than I give them credit for ;) Also, thanks for the extra carcinogenic info on UV light; guess I'll have to make sure Clark keeps to a shortish dose (about an hour?), just in case. Yvonne (yconnell@ukf.net) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 12:34:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: Re: The Games People Play On Thu, 11 May 2000 11:40:31 -0500, Hazel wrote: >Wendy gets 35 points (unless SinginDrew is named Kristin, in which case, >she gets 40), Pam gets 20 points, Yvonne gets 16 points, Terry gets 4 >points, Irene gets 8 points, and Labrat gets 4 points. > Hey, I wasn't last! Darn! ;) >Shall we do this again next week, or are you all tired of this? > Again, again, again! :) Yvonne (still cherishing her 'Superflop' award for coming last at her work's ten- pin bowling contest with a stunning 97 points :)) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:37:50 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: Legal Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I too have a legal question for a story I'm doing. My character wants to send out a supeana (sp) so they can appear in court for divorce procedings. I want his lawyer to send out the paper work that night...can his lawyer do that and at the same time require all parties to meet the next day in court? Or do they have to wait a certain amount of time for the supeana to take effect? I hope this all made sense to you because personally I'm very confused! Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:40:30 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rowan Fuller Subject: Re: OT: Help: Need website URL MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 11/05/2000 17:47:53 GMT Daylight Time, erink@IDA.NET writes: << Also, does anyone know of a good site that has a lot of screen captures available for download? Thanks! Erin :) >> I can't help with Debby's URL, but doesn't Andrea's site have screen captures for every episode at: http:/'/www.annie.simplenet.com/loisclark.html Rowan :) -- -- -- LaneKent@aol.com Lois & Clark: Over 200 Links, News & Information About the TV Show and Its Cast: http://members.aol.com/laneken t For news of updates to my site: http://www.onelist.com/commun ity/LaneKent Other Pages: D ean Cain T he Many Faces and Talents of Teri Hatcher ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:26:07 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny or Joe Stosser Subject: Re: Legal Question In-Reply-To: <3b.4b840c4.264c57fe@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 02:37 PM 11/05/2000 -0400, Alexis W. wrote: >I too have a legal question for a story I'm doing. My character wants to >send out a supeana (sp) so they can That's spelled "subpoena" although knowing the US preference for not having dipthongs it may be spelled "subpena" there. And sorry, I don't know the answer to your question. Jen jenerator@free.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:11:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: The Games People Play On Thu, 11 May 2000 11:40:31 -0500, Hazel wrote: >>I resent that remark. I may chew their ropes, but I am *not* a dog! Take >that back immediately, or El-ahrairah will come and hunt you down. ;p > >Hazel, sunning herself on the grassy slopes He'd have to find me first. :P~~~ And anyway, old Gnasher Throatgobbler (Patron Saint and Avenger of lab rats everywhere) could beat him in an arm wrestle any day of the week. Besides, take a deep breath and remember that dogs are good. One of them might save your...tail...one day. ;) LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:32:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:11 PM 11/05/00 -0500, you wrote: >On Thu, 11 May 2000 11:40:31 -0500, Hazel wrote: > >>>I resent that remark. I may chew their ropes, but I am *not* a dog! Take >>that back immediately, or El-ahrairah will come and hunt you down. ;p >> Labrat opined: >Besides, take a deep breath and remember that dogs are good. One of them >might save your...tail...one day. ;) As a trophy, yes, perhaps. Don't forget what the Labrador did to General Woundwort. :) Hazel-rah ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:38:41 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: The Games People Play On Thu, 11 May 2000 17:32:32 -0500, Hazel wrote: >>As a trophy, yes, perhaps. Don't forget what the Labrador did to General >Woundwort. :) > >Hazel-rah Yeah...and he saved your tail when he did it, don't forget! You should have made him an honoroury member of the Owsla. LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:41:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Labrat countered: >>>As a trophy, yes, perhaps. Don't forget what the Labrador did to General >>Woundwort. :) >> >>Hazel-rah > > >Yeah...and he saved your tail when he did it, don't forget! You should have >made him an honoroury member of the Owsla. > >LabRat :) May I remind you that it was this same dog's incessant barking that got me shot? I'm glad it came in useful, but if Bigwig wants to make that dog part of his Owsla, he can very well start a new warren at Nuthanger Farm! Hazel, who thinks the list is getting bored of this. ;) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:52:37 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Novels vs. Short Stories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/11/00 9:20:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, sirenegold@YAHOO.COM writes: << Does anyone have a handy definition of what length a novel is, versus a novella versus a short story? >> Irene, this is probably not going to be much help, but according to both the dictionary and Thrall and Hibbard's "A Handbook to literature," a novel is "an extended work of fiction, normally in prose." A short story is " a short work of fiction," while a novella is either another term for short story or a work of prose longer than a short story, but shorter than a novel. As for giving any kind of word count, I couldn't find anything that had one. I would say this -- a short story would be so short that it would undoubtedly never be published alone. A novelette (or novella if you go with the long definition) would usually be published in a collection as well, but there might only be 3 to 5 works in a collection. A novel would always be long enough to be published alone. If I had to guesstimate word counts, I would figure 300-350 words per page and anywhere from 3-10 pages for a short story. So that would be between 1,000 to 3,500 words. A novelette would be more like 50 to 75 pages. A novel would be at least 175 pages, but then some are close to 1,000 pages. (I'll let you do the higher math.) Hope this helps. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:04:45 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Legal Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/11/00 5:26:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jenerator@FREE.NET.AU writes: << I too have a legal question for a story I'm doing. My character wants to >send out a supeana (sp) so they can That's spelled "subpoena" although knowing the US preference for not having dipthongs it may be spelled "subpena" there. >> No, when it comes to legalese, we in the US go for the most cumbersome spelling possible, so it is "subpoena" here, too. To answer the question about timing on a subpoena, while I am no lawyer, I did once receive a subpoena, and I had several summonsses sent to my ex-husband. They all were well in advance of the court date -- at least a week to ten days ahead of time. People have to given enough time to receive them and make arrangements to show up in court. Also, I believe that there is a subtle difference between subpoenas and summonses. I think that if the document you get from a court is a subpoena, it means that you have to testify in a case. You could receive a summons because you are the defendent or are somehow involved but may not need to give testimony. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:06:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Source of Fanfic Answers Not that I'd hope to dissuade anyone from posting their fanfic questions here on the list - I love reading most of the threads such questions often spark off and often learn a lot of useful things by proxy! But as an added source of information on life, the universe and everything....there's a nice little site out there called askme.com (http://www.askme.com/)which writers might find useful. Simply join by entering your eddress, click on the category you require and you have access to a list of real life experts in the field who will do their best to get you the answers. These can be posted to site, or privately to your eddress. Everything from history professors to particle physicists live here. Stuart tested it out for me by asking one of the resident experts a question on nuclear physics which he described as 'reasonably difficult' and was very impressed by the results he got back. Experts are even rated by previous questioners as to how helpful their replies were, so you can pick and choose who seems to suit you best. Can't hurt. LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:16:06 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: Legal Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/11/00 6:05:08 PM EST, Aerm1@AOL.COM writes: << You could receive a summons because you are the defendent or are somehow involved but may not need to give testimony. >> Okay...well what if you want to file for divorce against another party and they don't know it yet. This person is going to try to evoke the divorce at first...should they meet in front of judges or in front of a lawyer? If its the lawyer situation, that can be done anytime, right? Alexis ;-.) "And another thing. You're not working with me, you're working for me. I call the shots. I ask the questions. You're low man. I'm top banana. That's the way I like it? Comprende?" (Lois) "You like to be on top. Got it." (Clark Kent) "Don't push me, Kent. You are way out of your league." (Lois) {LnC, Pilot} ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:28:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: The Games People Play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hazel, who thinks the list is getting bored of this. ;) No, I'm not bored ... just amused and very very puzzled! I assume it means something to you guys... -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:38:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <391B420F.5105CAE3@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pam waved a signal: >> Hazel, who thinks the list is getting bored of this. ;) > >No, I'm not bored ... just amused and very very puzzled! I assume >it means something to you guys... Sorry, Pam. :) I think most of you know that "Hazel" is actually a nick, and it's taken from "Watership Down" by Richard Adams. All comments and references in the past several posts were taken from the novel, and I very very very strongly recommend it to all and sundry. :) Hazel (obsessed with Watership Down and Elessar Telcontar, and still thanking Irene for changing her bad guy's last name) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:38:32 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Source of Fanfic Answers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/11/00 7:07:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, labrat@CABLEINET.CO.UK writes: << But as an added source of information on life, the universe and everything....there's a nice little site out there called askme.com (http://www.askme.com/)which writers might find useful. >> There is also "Ask Jeeves," a site where one can ask a question. Sometimes it gives you the answer, and sometimes it gives you a list of sites to look at. It has two URLs if I'm not mistaken: www.ask.com or www.askjeeves.com. (And yes, Jeeves is Bertie Wooster's butler and resident genius.) Ann ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:05:48 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Legal Question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/11/00 7:16:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LoisLane9397@AOL.COM writes: << Okay...well what if you want to file for divorce against another party and they don't know it yet. This person is going to try to evoke the divorce at first...should they meet in front of judges or in front of a lawyer? If its the lawyer situation, that can be done anytime, right? >> Although the laws vary from state to state, what normally happens is: 1. One of the two spouses decides to get a lawyer and file for divorce. 2. The lawyer will file the petition for the divorce in the court, while at the same time contacting the other spouse by mail to say something like "I have been retained by your wife in her divorce proceedings against you. Please have your attorney contact me or contact me yourself so that we may all meet to discuss matters." 3. The spouse will then either get a lawyer or already have one, if it isn't a complete surprise. The lawyer will contact the first lawyer and a meeting will be arranged. Both spouses will be asked to bring financial records, property documents and other papers like that. 4. The two parties will meet with their lawyers and politely divide up the property, the dog, the house, and what not. If the two soon-to-be ex-spouses can agree on everything, the lawyers draw up a property settlement which is submitted to the judge. The judge would normally agree if both parties are already in agreement. Some states have "mediation" where the two people meet with a court appointed mediator to hash things out. 5. Really reputable lawyers will suggest counseling and point out that in many cases the ones who benefit most from a divorce are the attorneys. 6. If there are children involved, it gets a lot more complicated. In many states counseling is required for the parents and the children. Property distribution becomes affected sometimes based on which parent will have the children most of the time. 7. No matter how amicable or bitter the split is, there will be a court date assigned by the court clerk and everyone will be expected to show up in court. The person being divorced will get a summons to the court. (When I got divorced, my ex-husband didn't show up, and so the judge postponed the proceedings for a month.) Assuming that everything is in order, the court proceedings don't take more than about 30 minutes. 8. One other thing that can complicate matters is the state law regarding property division. Some states are "community property'" states. That means that all "marital" property acquired by either person after the marriage began has to be divided equally between the two parties. (So the car I bought with the money I earned from my job was technically 1/2 my ex-husbands.) In most community property states, there is marital and non-marital property. Non-marital property is property acquired by a personal gift or by an inheritance. Otherwise, most stuff is marital property. (I think that California may have community property in which there is no distinction between marital and non-marital property, but I honestly don't know.) On the east coast, however, a lot of states have "equitable distribution" of property. So a man who accumulated $15 million while his wife stayed home, raised the children, and threw dinner parties for his clients, might argue that she only deserves $1 million, since she never earned any money while they were married. This makes dividing property in these states a *lot* more interesting. (Lawyers probably love it.) I know that Pennsylvania has equitable distribution. So if you are writing a Lois and Clark story, New Troy might have this type of law. Hope this helps. Ann ( who probably just told you ten times more than you really wanted to know.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:16:19 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: Novels vs. Short Stories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I replied to Irene's e-mail personally, but I figured I'd post this here, too, just for kicks. Short Story: less than 7,500 words. Novelette: at least 7,500 words but less than 17,500 words. Novella: at least 17,500 words but less than 40,000 words. Novel: 40,000 words or more These are the guidelines for the Science Fiction Writers of America's Nebula Awards. I would assume that they're probably pretty close to what most publishers or whatever use as guidelines. You can find these in the sfwa.org Nebula Awards Rules. Tara ----- Original Message ----- From: Ann E. McBride To: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 3:52 PM Subject: Re: Novels vs. Short Stories > In a message dated 5/11/00 9:20:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > sirenegold@YAHOO.COM writes: > > << > Does anyone have a handy definition of what length a > novel is, versus a novella versus a short story? > >> > > Irene, this is probably not going to be much help, but according to both the > dictionary and Thrall and Hibbard's "A Handbook to literature," a novel is > "an extended work of fiction, normally in prose." A short story is " a short > work of fiction," while a novella is either another term for short story or a > work of prose longer than a short story, but shorter than a novel. > > As for giving any kind of word count, I couldn't find anything that had one. > I would say this -- a short story would be so short that it would > undoubtedly never be published alone. A novelette (or novella if you go with > the long definition) would usually be published in a collection as well, but > there might only be 3 to 5 works in a collection. A novel would always be > long enough to be published alone. > If I had to guesstimate word counts, I would figure 300-350 words per page > and anywhere from 3-10 pages for a short story. So that would be between > 1,000 to 3,500 words. A novelette would be more like 50 to 75 pages. A > novel would be at least 175 pages, but then some are close to 1,000 pages. > (I'll let you do the higher math.) > > Hope this helps. > > Ann > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:24:14 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Very OT: Smiley's MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0059_01BFBB76.1C06B580" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01BFBB76.1C06B580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.justsaywow.com/smile.htm Ok, just a little senseless comidy. Tara (who thinks a little comedy is always a good thing) ------=_NextPart_000_0059_01BFBB76.1C06B580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Adam Johnson KRJ ACEAJ on AIM ________________________________________________________________________ I've learned that our background and circumstances may have influenced who we are, but we are responsible for who we become. ______________________________________________________________ I've learned that maturity has more to do with what types of experiences you've had and less to do with how many birthdays you've celebrated. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:35:34 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin H Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am truly sorry to hear this. Kendra and her family will be in my prayers. May she rest in peace. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:51:08 -0700 Reply-To: J C Bennett Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: J C Bennett Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is so very sad. My deapest sympathy to her family. I will remember her in my prayers. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 19:26:11 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My regret and deepest sympathy to Kendra's family. Jude ----- Original Message ----- From: Kasspur To: Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 6:27 PM Subject: Death of a fellow FoLC > Friends and family, it is my regretful duty to inform you of the passing of > Kendra Elyse Edwards. She passed away due to massive internal bleeding after > being hit by a drunk driver on May 11 2000 at 7:14pm. She is survived by her > husband Jase and her son Ben. > > Adam Johnson > KRJ ACEAJ on AIM > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > I've learned that our background and circumstances may have influenced who > we are, but we are responsible for who we become. > ______________________________________________________________ > > I've learned that maturity has more to do with what types of experiences > you've had and less to do with how many birthdays you've celebrated. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 20:44:56 -0700 Reply-To: creolel@ca.freei.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lori Llorence Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My prayers are with Kendra's family. Lori > Friends and family, it is my regretful duty to inform you of the passing of > Kendra Elyse Edwards. She passed away due to massive internal bleeding after > being hit by a drunk driver on May 11 2000 at 7:14pm. She is survived by her > husband Jase and her son Ben. > > Adam Johnson > KRJ ACEAJ on AIM > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > I've learned that our background and circumstances may have influenced who > we are, but we are responsible for who we become. > ______________________________________________________________ > > I've learned that maturity has more to do with what types of experiences > you've had and less to do with how many birthdays you've celebrated. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:22:23 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny or Joe Stosser Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: <391B420F.5105CAE3@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Pam, they're referring to the book Watership Down, by Richard Adams. It was also made into a cartoon, oh, early 80's ish, with a song by Art Garfunkel, called Bright Eyes, but the book was way better than the movie by far! Hazel is the leader of a band of rabbits (the 'rah' is added to his name to indicate that he's the leader). The rabbits are forced to leave their home and find a new place to build a warren. Bigwig is sorta like the security chief; El-ahrairah (sp?) is like the Rabbit god or Loki-equivalent. (Is that everyone that has been mentioned so far?) Jen At 07:28 PM 11/05/2000 -0400, Pam Jernigan wrote: > > Hazel, who thinks the list is getting bored of this. ;) > >No, I'm not bored ... just amused and very very puzzled! I assume >it means something to you guys... >-- > >Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net >http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam > >Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, >right? You asked all these little technical questions >about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." >Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually >wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought >a lot about what you said." >J: "It's okay. Listen." >B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete >brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's >just a TV show." >J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." >B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" jenerator@free.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 02:20:33 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am deeply sorry. I will pray for her up in heaven with God and her family. Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 03:15:55 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yvonne wrote: >> BTW, for a fascinating viewpoint on how things might look under a red= sun, try reading Jenni's NK series, Universal Union. I know Hazel also has some ideas on this subject. << I have to admit that I used 'poetic licence' in Universal Union and not a= ny scientific knowledge of a red sun. Now, when I see how much knowledge ou= r fellow listers possess, I feel I should have done some more homework. However, as Universal falls in the scifi-fantasy category, I'll excuse myself by pleading that it's more fantasy than scientific and ask that t= he purists out there forgive my transgression. Yours Jenni Debbage ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 00:37:40 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, the whole Superman thing is sf-f. I mean, can any of us really believe that a man could be able to fly without wings or an airplane? Or see x-rays un-aided? or head something just by looking at it really hard? or . . . the list goes on. The Superman universe (and the LnC universe) is a place where pretty much anything goes. :) Besides, Universal Union was *really* good! :) Tara ----- Original Message ----- From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:15 AM Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question Yvonne wrote: >> BTW, for a fascinating viewpoint on how things might look under a red sun, try reading Jenni's NK series, Universal Union. I know Hazel also has some ideas on this subject. << I have to admit that I used 'poetic licence' in Universal Union and not any scientific knowledge of a red sun. Now, when I see how much knowledge our fellow listers possess, I feel I should have done some more homework. However, as Universal falls in the scifi-fantasy category, I'll excuse myself by pleading that it's more fantasy than scientific and ask that the purists out there forgive my transgression. Yours Jenni Debbage ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 05:26:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: The Games People Play On Fri, 12 May 2000 14:22:23 +1000, Jenny or Joe Stosser wrote: Bigwig is sorta like the security >chief; El-ahrairah (sp?) is like the Rabbit god or Loki-equivalent. >(Is that everyone that has been mentioned so far?) >Jen Well there was the dog. But I figure he's kind of self evident. ;) LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 05:27:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC On Thu, 11 May 2000 21:27:26 -0400, Kasspur wrote: >Friends and family, it is my regretful duty to inform you of the passing of >Kendra Elyse Edwards. She passed away due to massive internal bleeding after >being hit by a drunk driver on May 11 2000 at 7:14pm. She is survived by her >husband Jase and her son Ben. What dreadful news to wake up to, Adam. My sympathies are with her family. LabRat > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:50:19 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Phillip Atcliffe Subject: Re: The Games People Play In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 May 2000 05:26:03 -0500 SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat wrote: Quoting Jen: >> Bigwig is sorta like the security chief; El-ahrairah (sp?) is like the Rabbit god or Loki-equivalent. (Is that everyone that has been mentioned so far?) << > Well, there was the dog. But I figure he's kind of self-evident. ;) Particularly if he takes after Rowsby Woof . And we won't even mention Fairy Wog-dog (except I just did... oops). Phil, who thought that the stories of El-Ahrairah were the best part of the book. ------------------------------------------------------------ "Sic Transit Gloria Barramundi" (Or, So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!) -- not Douglas Adams, but me: Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 18:23:13 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: OT: Help: Need website URL In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:43 AM 05/11/2000 -0600, you wrote: >Hi everyone ;) > >Sorry if this is a little off topic, but could someone help me? I've been >trying to get to Debby's ftp LNC picture page, but haven't had any luck these >past two days. I either get socket errors or "Anonymous Access Denied" >errors. Do I have the wrong URL or something? If anyone could help me out by >letting me know the correct URL, I'd be grateful. Also, does anyone know of a >good site that has a lot of screen captures available for download? > >Thanks! > >Erin :) I took the pictures off; I got a note about being perilously close to using all my space on my ftp site... If there are any from the studio that you or anyone wants, I'd be happy to email them to you as jpg attachments :) (there are 15 [out of the many pics I took] and range from pictures around the WarnerBros lot of familiar L&C scenes [including some clutter from the fight scene in BGE] to a picture of K at the first FolcFest. Total: 687KB, averaging 45KB each). Also, I've included them in with the zillion or so pictures I stick on the CD full of L&C Scripts I have for sale. Write for details if you wish :D Debby Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:15:00 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nicole Wolke Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was shocked when I read these very sad news this morning. I knew Kendra from IRC and the Messageboards. My thoughts are with her family, especially her husband and her son. Nicole Kasspur schrieb: > Friends and family, it is my regretful duty to inform you of the passing of > Kendra Elyse Edwards. She passed away due to massive internal bleeding after > being hit by a drunk driver on May 11 2000 at 7:14pm. She is survived by her > husband Jase and her son Ben. > > Adam Johnson > KRJ ACEAJ on AIM > -- AKA CKgroupie on IRC NKWolke@eifel-net.net Are you always searching for news about Dean Cain? And don't you have the time to go and find them? Here's your solution: Go to "The Dean Cain News Page" http://members.tripod.de/CKgroupie/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:49:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jo Murf Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC How awful! My thoughts and prayers go out to her family. She will be missed. JoMurf On Thu, 11 May 2000 21:27:26 -0400, Kasspur wrote: >Friends and family, it is my regretful duty to inform you of the passing of >Kendra Elyse Edwards. She passed away due to massive internal bleeding after >being hit by a drunk driver on May 11 2000 at 7:14pm. She is survived by her >husband Jase and her son Ben. > >Adam Johnson >KRJ ACEAJ on AIM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:13:37 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Actually, the whole Superman thing is sf-f. I mean, can any of us really >believe that a man could be able to fly without wings or an airplane? Or >see x-rays un-aided? or head something just by looking at it really hard? >or . . . the list goes on. I'm guessing "head" above was a typo, and you meant "heal," as in Fly Hard. If this is correct, I always thought Clark's healing of Luthor was based on *some* science. Clark has laser-like vision; perhaps he "sottered" off an artery or vein of Luthor's which was severed by the bullet. It would stop the blood loss and therefore Luthor would stop bleeding and seem healed. However, having lost a lot of blood (and maybe because of a leaky sottering job by Clark), Luthor later passes out. >The Superman universe (and the LnC universe) is >a place where pretty much anything goes. :) This line intrigued me, and I've been thinking about whether I think "anything goes," science-wise, in fanfic. Even though the show features a flying man, I still expect the scientific basis of devices and plots to be accurate, and I'm disappointed when they aren't. To use an example mentioned recently, exposure to UV light can cause blindness. However, the "cure" isn't infrared light. I cheered when the blinding UV light was mentioned, and groaned at the IR reference. I'm sure some of this stems from my background in science, as a soon-to-be college graduate with a degree in molecular biology. And I'm sure if I was more interested in physics, I'd find even more to groan about, because most of the show's pseudo-science involves strange criminal devices based on physics principles. I have the same concern when it comes to fanfic. I'm not really thinking of any stories in particular, but I think writers can sometimes achieve their desired goal (ie, to get a character to act a certain way) with clever plot-devising rather than pseudo-science. While I won't dislike a story because of its use of fake science, it frustrates me when the story *depends* on this science. An example of a story which uses fake science in a good way is the slime monster in Dawning; it's used to begin the story, but the focus of the story isn't on the havoc the slime monster has wreaked in the minds of our characters. So I was wondering if anyone else (scientists, maybe?) is ever bothered by the pseudo-science presented in the show and fanfic? Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:29:24 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think she actually meant "heat", Christy, but I agree about the science aspects. If you're going to use science in the story it pays to be as accurate as possible, given this is a universe where a man can fly and sometimes magic works. I'm not a scientist, but I have a pretty decent grounding in basic science (for which I credit my dad, who insisted I take all the science courses my high school had to offer and quite a few in college as well.). When I see something which violates what I know of physics, chemistry or biology I usually groan. When I write a fanfic that requires a scientific background, I research my subject enough to know what I'm talking about so that my basic facts are correct, and I can, at the very least, fudge up an explanation that sounds reasonable, and contains no glaring errors--which is about all you can expect, given the parameters we work with in Lois and Clark. Nan kubitc wrote: > >Actually, the whole Superman thing is sf-f. I mean, can any of us really > >believe that a man could be able to fly without wings or an airplane? Or > >see x-rays un-aided? or head something just by looking at it really hard? > >or . . . the list goes on. > > I'm guessing "head" above was a typo, and you meant "heal," as in Fly Hard. If > this is correct, I always thought Clark's healing of Luthor was based on > *some* science. Clark has laser-like vision; perhaps he "sottered" off an > artery or vein of Luthor's which was severed by the bullet. It would stop the > blood loss and therefore Luthor would stop bleeding and seem healed. However, > having lost a lot of blood (and maybe because of a leaky sottering job by > Clark), Luthor later passes out. > > >The Superman universe (and the LnC universe) is > >a place where pretty much anything goes. :) > > This line intrigued me, and I've been thinking about whether I think "anything > goes," science-wise, in fanfic. Even though the show features a flying man, I > still expect the scientific basis of devices and plots to be accurate, and I'm > disappointed when they aren't. To use an example mentioned recently, exposure > to UV light can cause blindness. However, the "cure" isn't infrared light. I > cheered when the blinding UV light was mentioned, and groaned at the IR > reference. > > I'm sure some of this stems from my background in science, as a soon-to-be > college graduate with a degree in molecular biology. And I'm sure if I was > more interested in physics, I'd find even more to groan about, because most of > the show's pseudo-science involves strange criminal devices based on physics > principles. > > I have the same concern when it comes to fanfic. I'm not really thinking of > any stories in particular, but I think writers can sometimes achieve their > desired goal (ie, to get a character to act a certain way) with clever > plot-devising rather than pseudo-science. While I won't dislike a story > because of its use of fake science, it frustrates me when the story *depends* > on this science. An example of a story which uses fake science in a good way > is the slime monster in Dawning; it's used to begin the story, but the focus > of the story isn't on the havoc the slime monster has wreaked in the minds of > our characters. > > So I was wondering if anyone else (scientists, maybe?) is ever bothered by the > pseudo-science presented in the show and fanfic? > > Christy > kubitc@kenyon.edu > > "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:48:24 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Personally, I love this story, and since there wasn't really any emphasis on the science, I don't feel you seriously violated any of the rules. Nan John Debbage wrote: > Yvonne wrote: > > >> BTW, for a fascinating viewpoint on how things might look under a red > sun, try reading > Jenni's NK series, Universal Union. I know Hazel also has some ideas on > this subject. << > > I have to admit that I used 'poetic licence' in Universal Union and not any > scientific knowledge of a red sun. Now, when I see how much knowledge our > fellow listers possess, I feel I should have done some more homework. > > However, as Universal falls in the scifi-fantasy category, I'll excuse > myself by pleading that it's more fantasy than scientific and ask that the > purists out there forgive my transgression. > > Yours Jenni Debbage ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:10:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jo Murf Subject: Re: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) >So I was wondering if anyone else (scientists, maybe?) is ever bothered by the >pseudo-science presented in the show and fanfic? Yes!!! It'll pull me out of a story or show instantly! And I have a hard time getting back into it. As a vol. EMT, the medical side of things really get to me (Just ask my husband how I react during ER or other medical shows!! ). Somehow researching some subjects based on what we see on TV is not a good idea!! Good question, JoMurf ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:15:02 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Re: Death of a Fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My thoughts and prayers are with Kendra's family. Irene ===== "All writing is essentially bricks of plagarism secured in place by the mortar of original thinking." --William Dukane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 12:21:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: James Tull Subject: Re: Clark's powers - fanfic question Also in GGGoH: This is the first time Clark ever cut his finger. Sounds like he was pretty tough as a kid. James ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 10:24:19 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, I meant 'heat'. Sorry. Typo. And it wasn't necessarily the use of the non-scientific things that I was talking about--it was their existence at all. When you get into a guy who can do all those things, you're talking fantasy not science fiction. And what I meant by 'anything goes' was that once you set up the internal logic of the fantasy (as has been done) you can do just about anything as long as you find a way to do it within the pre-set parameters. You just have to keep in mind the fantasy as well as the science fiction. :) Tara ----- Original Message ----- From: kubitc To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 9:13 AM Subject: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) > >Actually, the whole Superman thing is sf-f. I mean, can any of us really > >believe that a man could be able to fly without wings or an airplane? Or > >see x-rays un-aided? or head something just by looking at it really hard? > >or . . . the list goes on. > > I'm guessing "head" above was a typo, and you meant "heal," as in Fly Hard. If > this is correct, I always thought Clark's healing of Luthor was based on > *some* science. Clark has laser-like vision; perhaps he "sottered" off an > artery or vein of Luthor's which was severed by the bullet. It would stop the > blood loss and therefore Luthor would stop bleeding and seem healed. However, > having lost a lot of blood (and maybe because of a leaky sottering job by > Clark), Luthor later passes out. > > >The Superman universe (and the LnC universe) is > >a place where pretty much anything goes. :) > > This line intrigued me, and I've been thinking about whether I think "anything > goes," science-wise, in fanfic. Even though the show features a flying man, I > still expect the scientific basis of devices and plots to be accurate, and I'm > disappointed when they aren't. To use an example mentioned recently, exposure > to UV light can cause blindness. However, the "cure" isn't infrared light. I > cheered when the blinding UV light was mentioned, and groaned at the IR > reference. > > I'm sure some of this stems from my background in science, as a soon-to-be > college graduate with a degree in molecular biology. And I'm sure if I was > more interested in physics, I'd find even more to groan about, because most of > the show's pseudo-science involves strange criminal devices based on physics > principles. > > I have the same concern when it comes to fanfic. I'm not really thinking of > any stories in particular, but I think writers can sometimes achieve their > desired goal (ie, to get a character to act a certain way) with clever > plot-devising rather than pseudo-science. While I won't dislike a story > because of its use of fake science, it frustrates me when the story *depends* > on this science. An example of a story which uses fake science in a good way > is the slime monster in Dawning; it's used to begin the story, but the focus > of the story isn't on the havoc the slime monster has wreaked in the minds of > our characters. > > So I was wondering if anyone else (scientists, maybe?) is ever bothered by the > pseudo-science presented in the show and fanfic? > > Christy > kubitc@kenyon.edu > > "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:29:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Christy, > >The Superman universe (and the LnC universe) is > >a place where pretty much anything goes. :) > > This line intrigued me, and I've been thinking about whether I think "anything > goes," science-wise, in fanfic. Interesting topic :) I like to believe that the L&C world has exactly the same physical laws that ours does, it's just that Clark's an alien therefore he reacts differently. As you say, the show contradicts that notion in several places (the IR light to cure his blindness was *very* cringe-inducing). But I think of fanfic as a way to fix many of the show's short-comings, so I prefer logical science in my fanfic -- to the extent that I'd notice, anyway. Probably that's the reason I could never get into Wendy's "For the Greater Good". I'm sure she wrote a smashing story, but I couldn't get over the incredible odds *against* a chunk of Krypton heading right for Earth, so I couldn't get into the story. (p.s. Another show-stopper for me is egregiously misspelled words -- I think you meant "soldering" :) And while I'm drifting the topic ;) I also get really irate when people (not Christy in this case) write "would of" instead of "would've" (would have) -- those are just fingers-on-blackboard to my ears but unfortunately its a common mistake these days -- I've seen that construction on this list -- if you do this, people, stop it! :) -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:23:20 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam wrote: >I like to believe that the L&C world has exactly > the same physical laws that ours does, it's just that Clark's an alien > therefore he reacts differently. As you say, the show contradicts that > notion in several places --- That's the way I look at it too with this addition: in any genre the writing has to have an internal logic that follows whatever premise has been set up. My own candidate for worst logic and stupid science in L&C is in SLAV when SMan destroys the bomb in Metropolis via a very unreal and contrived Super Vision shot from the resort (can't remember the name) where Lois is tied to the boobytrapped bed. I loved the WAFFY stuff in that ep, but the rest was just dumb. Jude --- Original Message ----- From: Pam Jernigan To: Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 10:29 AM Subject: Re: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) > Hey Christy, > > > >The Superman universe (and the LnC universe) is > > >a place where pretty much anything goes. :) > > > > This line intrigued me, and I've been thinking about whether I think "anything > > goes," science-wise, in fanfic. > > Interesting topic :) IR light to cure his blindness was *very* > cringe-inducing). But I think of fanfic as a way to fix many of the > show's short-comings, so I prefer logical science in my fanfic -- to the > extent that I'd notice, anyway. Probably that's the reason I could > never get into Wendy's "For the Greater Good". I'm sure she wrote a > smashing story, but I couldn't get over the incredible odds *against* a > chunk of Krypton heading right for Earth, so I couldn't get into the > story. > > (p.s. Another show-stopper for me is egregiously misspelled words -- I > think you meant "soldering" :) And while I'm drifting the topic ;) I > also get really irate when people (not Christy in this case) write > "would of" instead of "would've" (would have) -- those are just > fingers-on-blackboard to my ears but unfortunately its a common mistake > these days -- I've seen that construction on this list -- if you do > this, people, stop it! :) > -- > > Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net > http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam > > Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, > right? You asked all these little technical questions > about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." > Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually > wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought > a lot about what you said." > J: "It's okay. Listen." > B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete > brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's > just a TV show." > J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." > B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 14:23:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: James Tull Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, 9 May 2000 23:47:28 +0100, yconnell wrote: >I don't think it's ever been specified as to which elements of the sun's energy give Clark his powers. Therefore, if you needed to re-energise him without the sun, what would you use? A sun bed, a source of UV/Infrared light, a sun lamp...? > >Thanks, >Yvonne >(yconnell@ukf.net) Yvonne, I have read most everyone's responses and am surprised that no one has come up with the premise that I and Elisabeth are going to use in our universe. In fact, I have toyed with an idea of writing a story from Dr. Klein's POV on how he thinks Superman's powers work. I have tried the best I could to come up with plausible explanations. But, I digress. Think about this.... According to H. G. Wells, Utopia is based on Lois and Clark's descendents. The only way for them to have viable children is for them to be genetically compatible, meaning that there is no difference between Kryptonians and humans, at least genetically. If they are genetically compatible, then there must be another reason that Kryptonians are super and humans are not. It can=92t just be the color of the sun. (Which I always thought was stupid.) Several years ago, I did some research while writing about a race of beings that would be vulnerable to UV radiation. This led me to studying different sun types. I was intrigued with one of the Red Giants. (I don=92= t even pretend to remember the class types so bare with me.) Imagine a sun so large that by the time UV radiation reaches the photosphere it is too weak to actually escape the gravitational pull of the sun and so never travels to the planets in orbit. But UV is necessary for the production of Vitamin D to keep the human body going. I had them using blue light instead. But this same research could help here. What if Krypton=92s sun was of the same class of star but with a lighter gravitational pull? UV radiation would trickle to Krypton just enough to supply their needs, but barely, if their molecular structure was like ours. But what if, on the atomic level, the electrons, protons and neutrons were aligned in such a way as to take full advantage of the incoming radiation. I call this being atomically polarized or AP for short. When they come to Earth there is an overabundance of UV radiation that their body can use and they get supercharged. Their Kerb=92s (spelling= ) Cycle would be getting energy from the sun instead of sugar, water, and air.= What if humans were not AP? Then their bodies would just simple make Vitamin D. But what if they get struck by lightning while holding a Kryptonian? They could become AP. What if they get pregnant by a Kryptonian? They could become AP. What if they get married to one and then slowly over the years they start to acquire Kryptonian abilities? They are becoming AP. Radiation from Green K could disrupt the AP of a Kryptonian. A laser passing through a chunk of Red K could transfer AP to another. You can have all kinds of fun with this. James, who is glad to be home but needs to get back to work. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:36:14 -0500 Reply-To: truitt22@flash.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: timothy truitt Organization: tnt technical services Subject: Re: Death of a Fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My thoughts and prayers go with Kendra's family too merry "Irene D." wrote: > My thoughts and prayers are with Kendra's family. > > Irene > > ===== > "All writing is essentially bricks of plagarism secured in place > by the mortar of original thinking." > --William Dukane > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:45:11 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How incredibly awful. My sympathy is with her friends and family. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:48:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All I can say is that I'm terribly sorry for Kendra and her family, Kara and Adam included. Nan Ann E. McBride wrote: > How incredibly awful. My sympathy is with her friends and family. > > Ann ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:04:08 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Death of a fellow FoLC In-Reply-To: <000901bfbbb1$3ed7d180$fcae99ce@swva.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ever since I got this news, I've been stunned. I can't say I knew Kendra well, other than a chatting acquaintance on IRC. But this horrible loss has hit me hard. As a first time mom of a young baby, I felt something in common with Kendra, and I imagine that's why I've taken this very personally. I'm incredibly saddened by the thought of this boy growing up without ever really knowing his mother, that her husband will have to raise their child alone. When I heard this, I read it to my husband and he came and held me because I was crying. Not usual for me. And it made me realize yet again how special this life is, how great a gift we're given when we have people in our lives who we love and who love us. I went to the bedroom where my baby was sleeping and looked at his sweet face and thanked whatever power in the universe for the chance I have to love him and take care of him for however long I have. And I made sure to tell my husband how much I loved him; it'd gotten too easy to forget and let the daily routine distract me from just taking a moment to appreciate how lucky I am. and if nothing else, I hope that this terrible, terrible tragedy can remind us all how precious life is, and to appreciate it and the people in our lives. It'd be a fitting, wonderful legacy for Kendra. In sorrow cerise At 09:27 PM 5/11/00 -0400, Adam wrote: >Friends and family, it is my regretful duty to inform you of the passing of >Kendra Elyse Edwards. She passed away due to massive internal bleeding after >being hit by a drunk driver on May 11 2000 at 7:14pm. She is survived by her >husband Jase and her son Ben. > >Adam Johnson >KRJ ACEAJ on AIM ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:47:52 +0100 Reply-To: "yconnell@ukf.net" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: yconnell Subject: Re: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I agree, Pam; interesting topic. Coming from a science-inclined family (Mum's an ex-maths teacher, Dad's an ex-biochemistry research scientist, brother and sister biochemistry and chemistry graduates respectively) I, too, have a problem with completely unreal, unlikely science in TV and literature. On the other hand, I can put up with pseudo-science - ie, science which either has a basis in fact, or manages to stay true to its own set of rules. I'm also pretty good at suspending disbelief, if the story is good enough . I, like Nan, like to research any science I'm going to use, so that I can understand just how far from reality I'm straying for my own purposes, be they plot or just pure wanton fantasy . Pam, you said: But I think of fanfic as a way to fix many of the show's short-comings, so I prefer logical science in my fanfic -- to the extent that I'd notice, anyway. Probably that's the reason I could never get into Wendy's "For the Greater Good". I'm sure she wrote a smashing story, but I couldn't get over the incredible odds *against* a chunk of Krypton heading right for Earth, so I couldn't get into the story. I agree with you on the incredible odds, but for me, the resulting story was just so utterly compelling that the premise it was based on ceased to bother me - this is what I meant earlier when I said if the story is good enough, I can live with the odd exaggeration or worse. Also, Wendy went to incredible lengths to make the rest of the science in her story very believeable, going through several redrafts before arriving at the final version. Clark's return to Earth at hyperspeed, for example, when he passes by planets distorted in shape and colour, was based on existing theories on near-lightspeed travel. Drifting off topic with you, Pam, I also agree with you on 'should of'. Another one is 'off of' - but I could get very boring on this topic, so I'll stop here . Yvonne (the black sheep of the family: I'm a music graduate ;) ) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:51:08 +0100 Reply-To: "yconnell@ukf.net" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: yconnell Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit James, thanks for the fascinating theory. Actually, however, it boils down to the same thing as the other answers: we seem to have arrived at the conclusion that Clark derives his powers mostly from the UV end of the spectrum. Thanks again to everyone who contributed to this thread and helped get me moving again on my fic :) Yvonne (definitely not an AP ) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:28:30 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: FoLC Memorial In-Reply-To: <000901bfbbb1$3ed7d180$fcae99ce@swva.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The cyberfamily of Kendra Edwards invite you to join them for a memorial in her honor on Saturday, May 13, 2000, on IRC. We will be gathering in channel #folcmemorial, any undernet server, at 7 PM GMT (3 PM EST, 9PM CET). (Private messages of condolance may be sent to Kendra's husband, Jason, and their son, Ben, in care of Kara Johnson, kaspur@swva.net.) Jason (JaseE) and Ben Kara (KaraJ, Kasspur), Adam (AdamCJ), Morgan and Taylor Katie (Froggie) Drew (Sokker) Debra (Melisma) Helene (Kaethel) Carms Marnie (Marns) Elena (Nene) Chiara Mary-Ann (Juliet79) Sarah (Athene) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 20:34:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kasspur Subject: Re: FoLC Memorial MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit First of all, we'd like to thank everyone for your kind thoughts and prayers. They really mean a lot to us. Kendra's husband Jase has suggested that anyone who would like to do something to honor Kendra's memory can make a contribution to the following charity: Southwestern Virginia Second Harvest Food Bank, Incorporated P.O. Box 10743, Roanoke, VA 24022-0743 Attention: Stuart Feather - Director of Development Again, thank you for all of your thoughts and God Bless. Kara Johnson Adam Johnson ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:26:25 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Felix E. Sung" Subject: NEW: The Final Gift (2/2) Not long after she had finished recording her first VMD, Cat, her youngest granddaughter, and short for Catherine Louise, showed up, wanting to take Lois out to lunch. First, Lois had to keep Cat's prying eyes away from the video equipment -- Cat had inherited Lois' insatiable curiosity -- and then, Lois hid a smirk as Cat flew them to her house in Houston. (Cat was a writer and usually worked at home.) Fortunately, Cat had inherited Clark's cooking abilities as she prepared the meal. Lois knew very well why Cat had shown up; she had come to check up on her, to make sure that her grandmother, living all alone, was all right. Lois didn't complain, for she never tired of flying, and she would never turn down an opportunity to see any of her great-grandchildren -- Cat and her husband had two children of their own. Lois had the feeling that Cat and other members of the family would be popping in unexpectantly, wanting her company, but she would draw the line if any of them tried to do things for her when she could do them herself, like what Charles had done last night. Most of lunch at Cat's was spent talking, fussing over Cat's two angels. Officially, Cat did not hang up her cape, but her superhero activities were severely curtailed as she had her son and daughter to look after. Cat had taken her grandfather's death especially hard, and Lois had ended up consoling her youngest grandchild. It wasn't until after three when Cat dropped Lois off at her house. After hearing the sonic boom, Lois rushed to the living room and set up the camera. * * * * * * * * The second VMD would be more difficult for her to do. Lois was going to talk about her life before she had met Clark many years ago. Yes, it had been a bad time, and yes, it was still embarrassing to talk about it, but this was her family she was talking to. With the exception of Clark, no one in the family had known the entire story, and she wanted her great-grandchildren to know. She smiled sadly as she recalled her childhood, her sister Lucy, and her parents. The typical dysfunctional family. Her father's affair, her mother's alcoholism, her parent's divorce, and the effect of all of it on two young girls. Lois also discussed the few relationships she had before meeting Clark, and explained why all of them were federal disasters. She also remembered how she mistakenly thought that being unattached or unmarried was the best thing for her. "I remember my life before I met your great-grandfather, when I thought that being alone was what I wanted. Before Clark I was an independent, career-minded woman. As a reporter for the Daily Planet I had won many awards. But awards don't necessarily comfort you when you are sad. Awards don't keep you warm at night. And awards definitely don't say to you, 'I love you.' "'I love you'... I can't recall three little words that meant more than these three. After I fell in love with your great-grandfather, I realized that loving him was what I had really wanted. Sometimes you can't just follow your head. Sometimes you have to follow your heart as well. I want you to remember that when you grow up, my dears." When she finished recording she found to her surprise that she had been recording for only an hour and a half. Shaking her head, she reached for the remote. Fade to black. * * * * * * * * Lois knew why the recording didn't take as long. She had rushed through it, plain and simple. She had always been uncomfortable in recalling her past. Thoughts of Lucy made Lois' eyes water. Her baby sister. Lois took it very hard when Lucy had succumbed to cancer nearly forty years ago. The same disease that killed their mother in 2002 took Lucy on her 53rd birthday. Despite all the advances in medicine, finding the cure eluded medical researchers everywhere. It wasn't until 2034 when a Dr. Lori Yulatovsky, another scientist from S.T.A.R. Labs and Emil Hamilton's wife, finally found the cure. Lois had taken comfort in knowing that cancer would no longer separate loved ones from one another. Lucy's death had also changed her husband, Jimmy Olsen, greatly. Jimmy had been Editor-in-Chief of the Planet when Perry had died in 2015, and after Lucy's death, he practically lived at the Planet, working long hours, even more than Perry had ever done. Lois and Clark had recognized the signs, and they had tried to help Jimmy through that difficult time, but with little success. Eventually something had to give, for Jimmy then had a heart attack and had died of a second one in 2040, in his own office. In fact, besides her brood of children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren, all the people Lois had cared about were gone. Of course, her parents and Clark's parents had been dead for many years. There was also Perry, Jimmy, Lucy, Inspector Henderson (later Commissioner Henderson), Constance Hunter (their long time lawyer and friend), and Dr. Klein. Even both members of the Kreider and Lorence reporting team, who had inherited from Lois and Clark the title of "Hottest Team in Metropolis" when they had become part of the editorial staff, and had been great friends at the Planet, had died recently. All that was left had been Lois and Clark. Until now. Lois' eyes rested on a picture on the wall. Slowly, she got up and walked up to it. It was a family portrait, taken on her and Clark's 70th wedding anniversary two months ago. There were a total of thirty people that surrounded Lois and Clark. She would have never believed it if someone had told her a long time ago that this would be her family portrait. Of course, she loved all of them dearly, but all of them were still alive, and Clark wasn't. Not anymore. Lois slowly sank down on the nearest couch and began to weep. 'Oh Clark...' Because Lois was crying, she didn't hear a whoosh and someone entering her house. An arm slipped around her small, petite frame. Looking up, she saw Laura, her grandaughter and C.J.'s oldest child (short for Laura Joanne). Laura hugged her grandmother as Lois continued to sob. * * * * * * * * It was eight o'clock in the evening when Lois returned to her VMD camera. After sobbing her heart out three hours ago, Laura had cooked dinner. Laura had flown in from New York to visit her grandmother, and for the next three hours they had a nice talk about Clark, among other things. Just like before, Lois had to keep Laura away from the video equipment. After Lois had assured Laura that she was fine, and after Laura had flown away, Lois began recording her third VMD. This time her talk was completely based on Clark's notes. When Clark had prepared his notes he had relied on, among other things, his many conversations with Dr. Klein, and later Dr. Hamilton, on his powers. Lois revealed in this recording all she and Clark had known about Superman: his powers, Kryptonite (which unfortunately still existed today, but in very small quantities), and everything that could affect him. She even mentioned the possibility that their powers could be transferred to someone else. She concluded this VMD with some cautionary advice. "I want all of you to think very carefully before allowing your powers to be transferred to another person. You may think that you are protecting the person you love, be it a husband, a wife, or a close friend. But you will alter that person's life completely, and besides, it wasn't the powers alone that made Clark Superman. It was his innate goodness, his compassion, and his desire to help others. I was faced with that choice of receiving superpowers many years ago, and I did not take them. I had never regretted that decision. I am telling you that transferring powers is possible only because it is possible that your powers may be taken from you against your will, and you need to know this." Lois held back a yawn. She didn't have to look at the clock to figure that she had been in front of the camera for hours. She picked up the remote. Fade to black. * * * * * * * * [December 14, 2066] By the time Lois took her usual place on the couch in front of the VMD camera the next morning, she still felt tired. She had been up late the previous night recording, so that didn't bother her. As always, Lois was pushing herself, working probably harder than she would like to finish the final gift. Picking up the remote, she got the equipment ready for recording. Lois was looking forward to this recording. For her fourth VMD she would tell her great-grandchildren about how she and Clark had met and some of the things that had happened since then. She still remembered ruefully how she had ignored Clark for the first year they had been together, as partners for the Daily Planet. "Clark always said that for him it was love at first sight, and I believed him." After they had been best friends for a while, Clark had got the courage to ask her out, and things went a little quickly for a while. "It didn't take long for me to fall in love with him," Lois admitted. "But there was one little issue that had to resolved before we could take the next step." That issue, of course, had been the secret Clark had kept for years: that he was Superman. "Clark would make these lousy excuses to go away when we were about to talk about something serious. It did hurt me when he did that, and I had no idea why he was doing it. He had wanted to tell me, but of course, I found out his secret instead and things were strained for a little while before we resolved the issue." Lois then had a very serious look on her face. "Please, please, please, don't make the same mistake your great-grandfather did those many years ago. If you find someone that you love, and if you think he or she is the one, please make sure you tell him or her everything. If he or she loves you, he or she has to love everything about you: the good and the bad." Lois continued to talk about other mistakes that she and Clark had made, before and after they had gotten married. She then decided to conclude this disc with something important that she had learned. "There was something the minister said to me and Clark at our wedding. It was something that I had learned through the long and windy process of us getting together, and I really hope that you someday would realize this to. The minister said, 'Love survives. It survives any joy, any sorrow, all the rights, all the wrongs, even life and death.'" Her eyes misted, she willed herself not to break down in front of the camera again as Lois continued. "I have loved Clark through it all, through all the joys and sorrows, through all the good times and bad, and now, through life and death. Clark had loved me from the beginning, and I will continue to love him until the day I die, and even beyond." After Lois stopped the camera, she realized that she was still tired. Now was the good time to take a break; she still had more VMD's to record. Among other things, she wanted to talk about H.G. Wells and parallel universes, and she wanted to warn her great-grandchildren about Tempus, one of the most diabolical foes she had ever encountered. But she had time; it was eleven days to Christmas. Deciding on a short nap, Lois closed her eyes and lay down on the couch. She would start the fifth VMD after her nap. Lois would never open her eyes again. Fade to Black. * * * * * * * * [Epilogue] In front of an intense white light stood a young man, handsome and muscular. He wasn't wearing glasses. There was something familiar about him, with the errant lock of hair that went down on his forehead. But because of the light, Lois could not see who the young man was. After getting closer, however, she recognized him. "Clark!!!!" Lois ran up to Clark and jumped into his arms. He swung her around, hugging her close. "This time I'm never going to let you go again," he whispered. "I hope you don't," Lois responded. "I love you." "And I love you." Hand in hand, the pair walked towards the light. The End +---------------------------------------------+ / \ / | \ / --+-- \ | | | | | | | | | * * **** * * ***** | | * * * ** * * | | ** **** * * * * | | * * * * ** * | | * * **** * * * | | | | CLARK JEROME KENT | LOIS LANE KENT | | Born February 28, 1966 | Born September 23, 1967 | | Died December 8, 2066 | Died December 14, 2066 | | | | "I have loved you from the beginning..." | | "... and I'll love you till the end." | | | +-----------------------------------------------------+ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 11:23:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To warn you, some heavy, tangential science follows... >Think about this.... >According to H. G. Wells, Utopia is based on Lois and Clark's descendents. >The only way for them to have viable children is for them to be genetically >compatible, meaning that there is no difference between Kryptonians and >humans, at least genetically. Rather than "genetically compatible" you might just want to say that they can interbreed. The phrase "genetically compatible" indicates interbreeding, but it does not indicate a lack of genetic difference. There are genetic differences between every person on this planet (except twins, sort of). Yet most of us can have viable children. I can invision several possible genetic differences between humans and Kryptonians which would allow them to interbreed. For example, human DNA consists of 4 bases, usually abbreviated A, T, G, C. However, human mRNA, which is sort of a go-between molecule between DNA (our genes) and protein (the complex machinery of the cell), contains A, *U,* G, C. So what if Kryptonian DNA contained U instead of T? This would probably wouldn't stand in the way of interbreeding since human RNA contains U. Or what if Kryptonian DNA contained a different, as-yet-unknown base which could base-pair (hydrogen bond) with one of the human bases and effectively substitute? This would also allow for interbreeding. There's also the theory that Clark could only breed with Lois, because of her unique genes. Improbable as it is, it's a fun theory ;) >If they are genetically compatible, then there must be another reason that >Kryptonians are super and humans are not. It can=92t just be the color of >the sun. (Which I always thought was stupid.) The way I think of it, it isn't the color of the sun, exactly, but what a different colored sun does to Clark. Perhaps UV light affects him in a different way than humans. It doesn't have to be the light affecting the DNA; it could be the light affecting proteins or cofactors in some unique way, as you mentioned below with Vitamin D. I am (probably) genetically compatible with Michael Jordan, but there are obvious differences between us: height, color, athletic skill, etc. Clark's differences could be just one of those, encoded for by a single gene which he may not even pass on to his children. And who's to say that the Kryptonian red sun wouldn't affect humans in the same way that the Earth's yellow sun affects Kryptonians? Maybe the effect has something to do with changing suns. >Several years ago, I did some research while writing about a race of beings >that would be vulnerable to UV radiation. Actually, humans are (somewhat) vulnerable to UV radiation. It is useful to us, as you mentioned, and to jaundiced babies to whom UV radiation is crucial. However, UV light can also cause blindness and cancer. >But what if, on the atomic level, the electrons, protons and >neutrons were aligned in such a way as to take full advantage of the >incoming radiation. A few questions about this premise: Electrons, protons, and neutrons have very different functions. Protons (positively charged) and neutrons (with no charge) clump together to make up the atomic nucleus. Electrons, however, are in constant motion, zipping around the nucleus in orbits. The motion of electrons is essential for life as we know (or can imagine) it. Electron movement and sharing is the essence of chemical bonds and energy transfer reactions, among numerous other things. Electrons could not cease their movement to be "aligned" with anything, unless I'm misunderstanding your concept of alignment. >Their Kerb=92s (spelling) >Cycle would be getting energy from the sun instead of sugar, water, and air. Ah, the Krebs Cycle. I could diagram this for you, if you wanted, as just days ago I had to memorize it for my biochem final ;) As an overview, the Krebs Cycle performs cellular respiration, taking pyruvate (a sugar made from glucose) and a few energy-carrier molecules, and through a series of reactions makes carbon dioxide and some other stuff. Anyway, the Krebs Cycle (and therefore the genes coding for proteins necessary in the cycle) would need some major rearrangement in order to take energy from the sun. This alone would be enough to render these beings and Earthlings reproductively incompatible. James, I'm not trying to rip apart your theory. Considering we've been talking about scientific accuracy on the show and in fanfic, though, I wanted to point out a few things. Feel free to ignore the science and just go with your theory, as so many fanfics do. I just wanted to show you a few places where I had questions. Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu "I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free." -Michaelangelo ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 11:23:18 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) On Fri, 12 May 2000 23:47:52 +0100, yconnell wrote: [in defence of my 'For the Greater Good] >I agree with you on the incredible odds, but for me, the resulting story >was just so utterly compelling that the premise it was based on ceased to >bother me - this is what I meant earlier when I said if the story is good >enough, I can live with the odd exaggeration or worse. I've been away since Tuesday, and only saw this debate now. Thank you, Yvonne! Blushes aside, yes of course the odds were hugely against a chunk of Krypton heading for Earth; but it's not *impossible,* Pam. And coincidences actually do happen occasionally; and even in situations where the odds are massively against something happening, once in a blue moon it actually does happen. I wasn't - I hope (and I did check out the science here, as Yvonne pointed out - thanks, Phil!) - asking anyone to suspend their disbelief and accept that the impossible could happen. >Drifting off topic with you, Pam, I also agree with you on 'should of'. > Another one is 'off of'... A 'me too' post, I'm afraid - and as a GE, it always makes me despair to see people continue to use bad grammar in their writing when the error has been pointed out to them; but then, I suppose it gives editors something to do... :/ (g, d & r) Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 11:51:21 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: The Games People Play On Thu, 11 May 2000 11:40:31 -0500, Hazel wrote: >Wendy gets 35 points (unless SinginDrew is named Kristin, in which case, >she gets 40 [snip] Sorry, everyone, for returning to this so late; Hazel, SinginDrew is Kristin's nick. I remembered the story from either the lists or the MBs (can't remember which) and had no idea what name she'd used for sending it to the Archive. Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 13:02:21 -0700 Reply-To: creolel@ca.freei.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lori Llorence Subject: Re: The Final Gift (2/2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That was absolutely beautiful Felix!! Lori -----Original Message----- From: Felix E. Sung [mailto:fsung@JUSTICE.LOYOLA.EDU] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 2:27 PM To: creolel@mail.ca.freei.net Subject: NEW: The Final Gift (2/2) CLARK JEROME KENT | LOIS LANE KENT | Born February 28, 1966 | Born September 23, 1967 | Died December 8, 2066 | Died December 14, 2066 | "I have loved you from the beginning..." | "... and I'll love you till the end." | | ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 19:48:37 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: Fanfic Science (was RE: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I've been away since Tuesday, and only saw this debate now. It's not a debate, sweetie, it's just me explaining how weird I am :) Besides, that wasn't the only reason -- I could tell the story was going to be a three-hanky weeper, and as I don't like those kinds of stories... I bowed out. I did read the ending, though which I enjoyed... And I'm still undecided as to whether I'll be brave enough to read your SuperLex story... :) -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 22:57:26 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: OT: Notes from an Inexperienced Chili Taster Named Frank MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, I know, I know--this is *way* off topic. I just couldn't resist! This is so funny! Tara > > Subject: Notes from an Inexperienced Chili Taster Named Frank > > Recently I was honored to be selected as an Outstanding Famous > Celebrity in Texas, to be a judge at a chili cook-off because no one > else wanted to do it. Also the original person called in sick at the > last moment and I happened to be standing there at the judge's table > asking directions to the beer wagon when the call came. I was assured > by the other two judges hat the chili wouldn't be all that spicy, and > besides they told me I could have free beer during the tasting, so I > accepted this as being one of those burdens you endure when you're an > Internet writer and therefore known and adored by all. > > Here are the scorecards from the event: > > Chili # 1: Mike's Maniac Mobster Monster Chili. > JUDGE ONE: A little too heavy on tomato. Amusing kick. > JUDGE TWO: Nice, smooth tomato flavor. Very mild. > FRANK: Holy smokes, what is this stuff? You could remove dried paint > from your driveway with it. Took me two beers to put the flames out. > Hope that's the worst one. These people are crazy. > > Chili # 2: Arthur's Afterburner Chili. > JUDGE ONE: Smoky (barbecue)? With a hint of pork. Slight Jalapeno > tang. > JUDGE TWO: Exciting BBQ flavor, needs more peppers to be taken > seriously. > FRANK: Keep this out of the reach of children! I'm not sure what I am > supposed to taste beside pain. I had to wave off two people who wanted > to give me the Heimlich maneuver. Shoved my way into the beer line. > The barmaid looks like a professional wrestler after a bad night. She > was so irritated over my gagging sounds that the snake tattoo under > her eye started to twitch. She has arms like Popeye and a face like > Winston Churchill. I will NOT pick a fight with her. > > Chili # 3: Fred's Famous Burn Down the Barn Chili. > JUDGE ONE: Excellent firehouse chili! Great kick. Needs more beans. > JUDGE TWO: A beanless chili, a bit salty, good use of red peppers. > FRANK: This has got to be a joke. Call the EPA, I've located a *#?!ing > uranium spill. My nose feels like I have been sneezing Drano. Everyone > knows the routine by now and got out of my way so I could make it to > the beer wagon. Barmaid pounded me on the back; now my backbone is in > the front. > > Chili # 4: Bubba's Black Magic. > JUDGE ONE: Black bean chili with almost no spice. > JUDGE TWO: Hint of lime in the black beans. Good side dish for fish or > other mild foods, not much of a chili. > FRANK: I felt something scraping across my tongue but was unable to > taste it. Sally was standing behind me with fresh refills so I > wouldn't have to dash over to see her. When she winked at me her > snake sort of coiled and uncoiled . . . it's kinda cute. > > Chili # 5: Linda's Legal Lip Remover. > JUDGE ONE: Meaty, strong chili. Cayenne peppers freshly ground adding > considerable kick. Very impressive. > JUDGE TWO: Chili using shredded beef, could use more tomato. Must > admit the cayenne peppers make a strong statement. > FRANK: My ears are ringing and I can no longer focus my eyes. I > belched and four people in front of me needed paramedics. The > contestant seemed hurt when I told her that her chili had given me > brain damage. Sally saved my tongue by pouring beer directly on it > from a pitcher. Sort of irritates me that one of the other judges > asked me to stop screaming. > > Chili # 6: Vera's Very Vegetarian Variety. > JUDGE ONE: Thin yet bold vegetarian variety chili. Good balance of > spice and peppers. > JUDGE TWO: The best yet. Aggressive use of peppers, onions, and > garlic. Superb. > FRANK: My intestines are now a straight pipe filled with gaseous > flames. No one seems inclined to stand behind me except Sally. I asked > if she wants to go dancing later. > > Chili # 7: Susan's Screaming Sensation Chili. > JUDGE ONE: A mediocre chili with too much reliance on canned peppers. > JUDGE TWO: Ho HUM, tastes as if the chef threw in canned chili peppers > at the last moment. I should note that I am worried about Judge Number > 3, he appears to be in a bit of distress. > FRANK: You could put a hand grenade in my mouth and pull the pin and I > wouldn't feel it. I've lost the sight in one eye and the world sounds > like it is made of rushing water. My clothes are covered with chili > which slid unnoticed out of my mouth at some point. Good, at autopsy > they'll know what killed me. Go Sally, save yourself before it's too > late. Tell our children I'm sorry I was not there to conceive them. > I've decided to stop breathing, it's too painful and I'm not getting > any oxygen anyway. If I need air I'll just let it in through the hole > in my stomach. Call the X-Files people and tell them I've found a > super nova on my tongue. > > Chili # 8: Helen's Mount Saint Chili. > JUDGE ONE: This final entry is a good, balanced chili, neither mild > nor hot. Sorry to see that most of it was lost when Judge Number 3 > fell and pulled the chili pot on top of himself. > JUDGE TWO: A perfect ending. This is a nice blend chili, safe for all, > not too bold but spicy enough to declare its existence. > FRANK: Momma??! > > \~^~/ > \\|||||// > \\\\\|///// > \\\\\|///// copper_squirrel@yahoo.com > \\\\|//// > \\|// > # > # > # ` > # )) > # (( (:B) > # )) )(@ ~* > # (((((@)& The Copper Squirrel in his virtual tree > //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// /// ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 03:28:21 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Next set of "object" games, plus combo post Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In the interest of bandwidth, I have combined several comments and what-have-yous. :) First of all, Wendy does, indeed, get her extra five points. Congrats, and all that! JoMurf wrote: >>So I was wondering if anyone else (scientists, maybe?) is ever bothered by the >>pseudo-science presented in the show and fanfic? >Yes!!! It'll pull me out of a story or show instantly! And I have a hard >time getting back into it. As a vol. EMT, the medical side of things >really get to me (Just ask my husband how I react during ER or other >medical shows!! ). Sooooo, JoMurf, when will we have the next part of "Fire on the Horizon," that intriguing story you started on the boards such a long time ago? :) And to segue back into the Wastership Down silliness, since the "theme" song from the cartoon version of the book started with the words "There's a fire in the horizon," Phil signed a post: >Phil, who thought that the stories of El-Ahrairah were the best part of the book. Heh. Don't forget the man who built a great floating hutch for all the animals when Frith had to go away on a journey. :) Now, on to the next set of "identify the fic that has this object." Really, folks, we need a decent name here! ;) The following fics were all uploaded to the archive in '99. They are also all *short*. Identify a fic that contains: -- A reporter named Martha -- A boy named Perry -- A lava lamp -- A "bomb" made of cardboard -- An extra-long cape -- A puppy named Mickey -- The Death Star Ten points for identifying them now, without checking the archives or your hard drive! Enjoy, Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 04:59:48 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: "ADITLOM" (RPG) Twenty-Seventh Installment, Week #28 (Part 1 of 1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the twenty-seventh installment of my rpg on yahoo called, "A Day in=20 the=20 Life of Metropolis." For more information, please go to: Yahoo! Clubs= =20 adayinthelifeofmetropolis=20 Public and private feedback is more than welcomed! =3D) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Cast List Clark Kent : Alexis W. (that's me!) Lois Lane: Alexis Cat Grant: Renda Dan Scardino: Renda Mayson Drake: Renda Perry White: Renda Bruce Wayne: Sam F. Sam Falcon: Sam=20 Jimmy Olsen: Tina T. Martha Kent: Tina T. Lucy Lane: Liz Lex Luthor: Dave =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D WEEK #28 (4/24 to 4/30) Re: The newspaper "Well, let's see what they have to say today?" Clark moved closer to Lois as she looked at the front page. "Hmm...that Gossip Gerty woman wrote an overview of the Environmental=20 Ball. This should be interesting!" "Oh boy..." Clark said as he ran his fingers through his hair. Lois flipped open to the article and started reading. Most of it was=20 full of references towards Bruce Wayne. "Well this a bust!" Clark said as he started to leave. "No, wait! There are pictures on page 4!" She flipped to page 4 and started to smile. "Here's a pic of Bruce.=20 Another pic of Perry and Diego. Oh great, it's Sam and Bruce! And=20 here's...ohh..." "What? What's wrong?" "I...uh..." she said as she looked closely at the picture in question.=20 "Oh my God!" Lois yelled as she threw the paper down on the bed. "What?!?" "It's us Clark! It's us!!! That witch has blown up a picture of you and=20 I kissing!!! I can't believe she would do something like that!" Clark picked up the paper and took a closer look. "Wow...this is pretty=20 intense stuff." "I know!" "I mean if Gerty actually took this, then she did a good job. I wonder=20 if she could give me the negatives so I could have this picture framed?" "CLARK!!!" "Calm down, Lois...I was only kidding. Sheesh!" "I bet Bruce had something to do with this..." Lois thought as she got=20 off the bed and started looking through Clark's duffel bag. "Lois, what are you doing?!?" "Well Clark..." Lois said as she grabbed some clothes and went behind=20 the bathroom door. "You told me that my attire was probably not=20 appropiate for Bruce's viewing, so I'm changing! I'm afraid none of my=20 outfits are appropiate for your taste, so I've decided to wear yours!" "Oh brother..." Lois stripped off her nightgown and threw it so it landed on Clark's=20 face. She put on a white t-shirt and a pair of his sweat pants. They=20 were a bit baggy, but even Clark thought she looked breathtaking as she=20 walked out of the bathroom. "I'll be back shortly..." she said as she started for the door. "Wait! Where exactly are you going?" "I'm going to go look for Bruce. I have a bone to pick with him! Before=20 that, I need to talk to Alfred. I really need to discuss this sleeping=20 arrangement thing! Don't wait for my return!" she said in a huff as she=20 slammed the=20 door behind her. >tbc< * * * * Cat and Dan. Cat gives him orders. Cat looked at Dan as they walked down the corridor towards her suite.=20 "Okay, Dan this is the letter of the law. You are in no way to make=20 snippey and spiteful remarks to Mayson at anytime!" Dan looked at her=20 and asked, "Do I even get to say hello?" Cat looked sternly at him and=20 replied, "Scardino! You won't only be answering to me but also to the=20 Dela Vega brothers and Perry White if you so much as make her blood=20 pressure rise one point above normal." Dan smiled and tried to disarm=20 Cat with a cute retort. "I am always, well usually always on my best=20 behavior." Cat looked at him and burst out laughing. "Your oxymoron=20 won't help you side step this issue." Dan raised an eyebrow and asked,=20 "Oxymoron?" Cat looked at him. *He can't be serious? He has to know that=20 'Usually always' is an oxymoron! Then again, perhaps not!* Cat just=20 smiled and meaningfully stroked her long fingernails across his hand and=20 up to his wrist. The whiting of his skin made her point well. >tbc<=20 =20 * * * * Re: The Picture in Question Clark sighed loudly as he watched his reporting parnter, storm off. He=20 should probably go after her. He turned on the tv. 'In other news, an out of control fire is burning on Pier 66 in the city=20 of Metropolis. People are fleeing and there's been extensive damage=20 already done to the waterfront.' WHOOSH! The sound echoed in the room as Clark spun into his Superman=20 suit and flew away. >tbc<=20 =20 * * * * Lucy and Jimmy go searching Lucy steeped out of her room, and saw Jimmy waiting. She gave him a=20 smile as she grabbed his arm. They started walking down the hall=20 together, towards the staircase. "You know, now that I think about it, I am starving! I wonder if they have any food around here..." As they turne= d=20 the corner, they saw Lois stomp down the stairs. "Jeez, she must be pissed=20 about something... and what the hell is she wearing??" Lucy and Jimmy followed Lois' trail, going down the stairs, and stepping into the living=20 room=20 where they saw Lois, Alfred, and other familiar faces..."I bet Alfred knows=20 where the food is! ...come on, lets ask!" Lucy and Jimmy walked up to Alfred= ,=20 patiently waiting for Lois to say something. >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Re: Lucy and Jimmy go searching Lois was about to walk up to Alfred when she accidentally walked right=20 into Bruce Wayne! "Ahh...oops!" she said as she felt her face bury itself in his chest. >tbc<=20 =20 * * * * Re: Cat and Dan. Cat gives him orders. Cat opened the door to the suite and waved for Dan to enter. She walked=20 in and closed the door. She looked at Diego and the others. Perry and=20 Ramone were discussing something in the paper and Diego and Mayson were=20 chatting at the table. Mayson looked up and saw Scardino and she turned=20 up her nose and looked away. *Well this is going to be an interesting=20 day!* Cat thought to herself as she approached them and handed Diego a=20 pack of the negatives and prints. >tbc< * * * * Re: Lucy and Jimmy go searching. "Uhh. Excuse me, Miss . . .Lois?"=20 "Uh...hi Bruce," Lois said as she removed herself from his chest and=20 gave him a sheepish grin. He looked at her and tried to keep the smirk off his face. "Interesting .=20 . .clothes. They look a little big." *Sam should try that sometime. She'd=20 never make it out of the bedroom, but I'd like to see it.* He tilted his hea= d=20 slightly and cleared his throat as he tried to get that thought out of his=20 head.=20 >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Re: Lucy and Jimmy go searching Anya grinned at Lois's run-in with Bruce. She headed toward the kitchen=20 where the food was after Alfred had given her directions.=20 >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Re: Lucy and Jimmy go searching "Ah, these old things!" Lois said as she started pulling on Clark's=20 t-shirt. As she was pulling on it, some of the fabric kissed her nose. Lois could=20 smell Clark in the t-shirt. It was like Clark was actually with her! "God, he smells so good!" she sighed out loud. "Oh...um...oops...I mean=20 something smells good...Is breakfast on?" Lois blushed as Bruce gave her a confused look. Before she had a chance=20 to explain herself, something started vibrating within her pants! "EEK! Oh,= =20 um...something's moving in my pants! Excuse me!" Lois said as=20 she blushed even more. She put her hand in the pant pocket and pulled=20 out a cell phone.=20 "Hello?" "Hello, Lois?" Martha answered the phone. She wasn't expecting to hear her voice. Then it dawned on her and she thought to herself, *He=20 said in his email that they were sharing a room, maybe they got closer=20 than he said they were.* "Uh, Uh is Clark there? Uh, I wasn't interrupting=20 anything was I? Uh, I just called to see if Clark and everyone was all right= =20 after the earthquake, but if you guys are *busy* then I can call back later.= " Martha waited for her answer, unsure if she really wanted to hear any=20 of the details. >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Re: Lucy and Jimmy go searching Lois's pants were buzzing, and she was busy taking care of that so Jimmy=20 thought it would be a good opportunity to ask Alfred about the food. "Hey Alfred, where could we get some food around here?"=20 "There is a buffet style breakfast table in the dining room, please go=20 help yourself," Alfred said while pointing in the direction to the dining=20 room. Jimmy took Lucy's arm. "Shall we?" he said as he led her into the dining=20 room. "Wow, that's some spread!=94 Jimmy said picked up a empty plate and handed=20 it to Lucy and then he picked one up for himself. "Ladies first," he said making room for Lucy to go by him.=20 >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Re: Lucy and Jimmy go searching "Oh! Ah, hi Mrs. Kent...ur I mean Martha, ha-ha. Um...no...no...you=20 weren't interupting a thing. Uh, Clark...yes Clark had to go on=20 assignment. Yeah, that's it. He had to go out on assignment so he asked=20 me to look after his cell phone. The streets of Gotham are pretty=20 dangerous so he wanted to make sure it would be safe. He told me to=20 watch his cell phone and wait for a call from Perry. You know how the=20 Chief can get! Anyway...is there um...something you'd like me to tell=20 Clark when he gets back?" "Oh I was just checking up on him because he never replied to my other=20 email so I was worried about him. Let him know I called, please."=20 "Oh I am glad that I uh didn't interrupt anything." Martha said as she hung= =20 up her phone and went about her business=20 =20 Bruce had to keep from smiling as Lois talked to Clark's mom. *So far I know Lucy, Jimmy, Lois and Clark are here. Mr. White must be=20 someplace else. Wonder who else is here? I better talk to Alfred at some=20 point.* "A-ha," Lois said uncomfortably as she closed Clark's cell phone and=20 put it back in his pant pocket. "So, where were we?" she asked Bruce. >tbc< * * * * Re: Cat and Dan. Cat gives him orders. Diego looked at the prints and looked up at Catherine. Leaning over she=20 whispered to him, "I think we may have a lead on at least part of this=20 puzzle!" Diego nodded in agreement. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Diego and Cat! Diego looked at Catherine and the photos. His olive tanned faced was pensive as he studied the photographs. "Catherine you say one of these=20 men looks like one who boarded and perhaps left the games that killed=20 one pilot and injured the other?" Cat nodded at Diego and replied, "He=20 certainly does look like the guy that boarded for just a few minutes." Diego picked up his cell phone and dialed a number. "Si. It's me! I have=20 something I shall be faxing to you shortly. I need you to run these men=20 through the IDENT, and get the results back to me ASAP." Diego hung up=20 the phone and turned to Cat. "We must go to my Suite for a few minutes."=20 Cat nodded. They excused themselves and went to Diego's suite. He went to=20 the closet and hit a switch which revealed a large safe. Diego opened=20 the safe and took out a suitcase. Inside the case was a fax machine=20 that had scrambled signals and a secure line modem. Diego dialed the=20 Interpol fax and sent the photos through. He waited for the comfirmation=20 that they had been received. When the confirmation came through, Diego=20 packed up the fax and then he put it back in the safe. "Come Princess,=20 we have only to wait for a phone call now." >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Perry looks for Cat and Diego! Perry White finished up his phone call, and turned to find Cat. Looking=20 puzzled, he asked Mayson, "Where is Cat and Diego?" Mayson looked at=20 Perry and answered, "They excused themselves and said they would be back=20 shortly." Perry looked at his watch. "Great shades of Elvis! I need to=20 make another phone call to my source!" Perry strode back to the sofa and=20 started dialing. Mayson smiled at Ramone. "I don't know who is the=20 biggest 'Work-a-holic', Lois, Perry, Clark or Cat and Diego!" Ramone=20 laughed and answered cautiously, "I'd have to say that they all rank=20 equaly close with one another! But don't tell Catherine that I said so.=20 She tries very hard to protray the leisure woman of society gossip and=20 fun, fun,fun." Mayson laughed at Ramone's description of Cat. "You make=20 her sound like a soap character." Ramone looked puzzled, thinking., *What=20 has soap got to do with Catherine?* >tbc< * * * * Re: Lucy and Jimmy go searching "Acutally we really hadn't gotten anywhere, since I believe we were=20 discussing clothes. Did you sleep well?" he asked as he ran his left two=20 middle fingers across the top of his right first two fingers and tried=20 very hard to keep from smiling.=20 =20 "Uh..." Lois stalled as she watched Bruce trying to stiffle a smile, "it=20 could have been better...Speaking of sleeping, can you point me in the=20 direction of Alfred? I have something I REALLY need to discuss with=20 him!" >tbc< * * * * Cat rescues Ramone! Cat heard Mayson and Ramone's exchange. "Ah, Ramone! Mayson referred to=20 your description of me as one of a Soap Opera TV character!" Cat told=20 Ramone as she patted his shoulder and watched Ramone and Mayson blush=20 that she'd overheard their conversation. "Don't worry! My reputation as a=20 'Lady of Leisure and fun!' is still intact!" Cat purred to him. Diego watche= d=20 her=20 and chuckled. *Catherine can really work that charm!" >tbc<=20 * * * * Superman to the rescue! This just in: Superman flew onto the scene of the awful fire on Pier 66=20 in Metropolis' harbor. He was able to put out the fire and bring the=20 people trapped to safety. Clark smiled to himself as he stripped off his dirty suit and hid it=20 under the bed. *I wonder if Bruce has a secret washing machine=20 somewhere in the bat cave?* Clark decided to shake that thought out of his head. He would think=20 about it later. Right now he needed to take a shower to take off of this=20 grimy dirt that covered his body. Lois was not back yet, so now was his=20 chance to get some peace and quiet before his "little tornado" blew in=20 again! >tbc< * * * * Luthor=92s personal journal entry Superman has yet again made headlines in my city a few short minutes=20 ago. While I'm not the least bit surprised at his presence here, it only=20 confirms my lingering suspicions as to his whereabouts for the past few=20 days. But, of course, I must tend to other more important matters.=20 Phase two is just beginning, and I believe it is time I give Mr. Bruce Wayne= =20 a call...=20 >tbc< * * * * Re: Cat rescuse Ramone! Diego pulled Catherine aside and they went into her bedroom. "Oh Diego,=20 you know what they will think is going on?" Diego smiled. "Let them. I=20 need to talk to you about our theory." Catherine nodded. "You know=20 Diego, this could be more dangerous than we suspected. The handsome=20 Spainard looked at her and replied, "Si! That was what I was about to=20 say to you. If the person responsible for all the things that have=20 happened to all of us is the same person... Well we are in big trouble."=20 Cat gently took his arm and lead him to a loveseat while looking into his=20 deep, dark brown eyes. "I think that we should try to flush this person=20 out!" Diego looked at her concerned, "What do you have in mind?" Cat=20 answered, "I think we should plant the word on the street that we know=20 who the person is and what their final goal is. If we can push them to=20 move prematurely we may have the upper hand." Diego looked at her. "No!=20 We are not going to risk anyone's life for this story." Cat looked at=20 him, "Diego, we may have to!" >tbc< * * * * Re: Lucy and Jimmy go searching "I think that may resolve itself once we start sending the injured to=20 the hospitals, which will start happening very soon . . .there have been=20 a few incidents recently that have made it look like you two are more=20 than friends. I know better, but Alfred probably doesn't."=20 >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Answering the front door Sam was ready and headed downstairs. As she walked down the=20 main stairs, she heard someone knocking at the front door. Not used=20 to the luxury of the house she quickly made her way down the stairs and=20 answered it herself. As she opened the door she said, "Hello, can I=20 help you." The tall blonde at the door was stunned. "Where's Alfred?" "He's helping deal with the injured." "What injured?" "The ones staying here because of the earthquake." "What earthquake?" "The one at Gotham Observatory last night." "Have you hit your head recently?" "Instead of being rude, why don't you tell me who you're looking for." "I was hoping to talk to Bruce, is he here?" "Yes," Sam answered. "Last time I saw him he was kind of busy," she said=20 with a smile. "Do you want me to let him know you're here, Miss . . .?" "Vicki Vale." "Oh, so you're Vicki. I should have known." "What does that mean?" "Sorry, I've just heard a lot about you." "Wait a minute, are you that little number he was with at the ball?" Sam's eyes narrowed. "I'm not a little number and yes I am the person he=20 was with at the ball." "Oh, sorry, didn't mean to offend you." "You didn't. I had a really good time, he had his arm around me most of=20 the night, that is until everything started to go wrong." Vicki's face tightened. "I remember his arms well." "I'm sure they've improved since you two were together. He's always=20 trying the get stronger." "Maybe. May I see him?" "He has a lot to take care of at the moment. I'll let him know you were=20 here." "Why don't you just let me in, what I have to talk to him about will=20 only take a minute." "I don't think I should." Alfred came up behind her. "You're room has opened up Miss, do you want=20 your things moved out of Master Bruce's room?" "What?!" "Someone needed to use the room I was staying in, so I stayed in Bruce's=20 room." "Bet you enjoyed that." "Very much. He wasn't complaining either." "I bet." "Who is that Miss?" "Vicki Vale." Vicki's pager started to beep. "Well, I guess I do need to go. Tell=20 Bruce I was here." "I'll do that next time I see him." Vicki walked away and Sam closed the door. "I don't like her." "She's actually quite pleasant." "In a nasty sort of . . .she wasn't nice to me once she realized that=20 Bruce and I are seeing each other." "Their relationship was rather, unusual." "Aren't all his relationships?" Part of my problem is that she is a=20 former girlfriend and it bothers me," she muttered. "Well, if you see him=20 before I do, tell him she was here. Don't tell him how rude I was. I=20 shouldn't have done that, she just . . .pushed the wrong button." "I can see how there would be some tension between the two of you." She snickered. "I'll be someplace quiet writing if he's looking for me.=20 Oh and please do move my things back into my room." "Yes, Miss." He left and she headed in a different direction.=20 >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Re: Lucy and Jimmy go searching "Well, whatever anyone's heard or seen it's all Kent's fault!" Lois said=20 as she stood there and pouted. "I had nothing to do with any of that! I=20 swear that man has no control...Unlike Superman. Now Superman has=20 control. Superman's a great man..." she sighed to herself. >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Interview "Ah, Bruce...I wanted to ask you something. I was wondering if you would=20 be available for another interview? I have so many questions that I=20 never got to ask you from the first one, so I was hoping I could do a=20 follow-up." Lois didn't give Bruce a chance to answer before she said, "I left my=20 notepad back in the bedroom so I'll be back in few minutes!" Bruce stood dumbfounded as he watched Lois run down the hallway, towards=20 her room. Lois opened the door to the bedroom and found her notepad. As she was=20 getting ready to leave, she heard the water running in the bathroom.=20 *Clark must be in the shower.* The bathroom door was conventiantly left=20 ajar. Curiousity was killing her so she decided to take a peek. Lois=20 could see the curves on Clark's muscular back, move as he rubbed his=20 hands through his hair. Lois smiled to herself as her eyes started to=20 wander. Unfortunately his towel was stragetically placed so that the=20 lower half of his body was blocked from her view. "Damn!" Lois complained to herself as she left the bedroom, leaving the=20 door open behind her. >tbc< Look for Week #29 coming to a PC near you! Enjoy! Alexis ;-.) {"ADITLOM" arbitrator} "Very attractive. Young for a woman in her position." (Clark) "Typical." (Lois) "What?" (Clark) "Typical male response." (Lois) "Lois, trust me on this, I'm _not_ your typical male." (Clark) {LnC, Pilot} * * * * ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 05:51:11 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Alexis W." Subject: "ADITLOM" (RPG) Twenty-Eighth Installment, Week #29 (Part 1 of 1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is the twenty-seventh installment of my rpg on yahoo called, "A Day in=20 the=20 Life of Metropolis." For more information, please go to: Yahoo! Clubs= =20 adayinthelifeofmetropolis=20 Public and private feedback is more than welcomed! =3D) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Cast List Clark Kent : Alexis W. (that's me!) Cat Grant: Renda Dan Scardino: Renda Mayson Drake: Renda Perry White: Renda Sam Falcon: Sam F. Dick Grayson: Dave Anya Starr: Tabitha * * * * WEEK #29 (5/1 TO 5/7) Diego and Catherine Diego looked at Catherine and smiled. He put a finger to his lips and=20 pointed to the shadows showing underneath the door. Cat smiled as he=20 pulled her closer and made a fake 'Moan', "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh=20 Catherine you drive me wild!" Diego almost broke up into laughter as Cat=20 made a meowing sound and jumped up and down on the bed. Screaming...=20 "Diego, you wild man!!! Oh yes!!! Yes!!!!YES!!!!!" She sat back down=20 beside him and buried her face in his chest to muffle her laughter. They=20 listened intently..... "Can you hear them?" They heard Perry whisper.=20 "No! I can't,=94 Dan Scardino replied. =93Sounds like they are really having= a=20 time in there though." Cat looked at Diego and whispered, "Should we=20 fess-up?" Diego replied, "Are you kidding? We have just begun to play=20 with their minds!" >tbc< * * * * Re: Answering the front door Sam went back upstairs. She wanted to go talk to Barbara, so she=20 ended up on the second floor. >tbc< * * * * Re: Diego and Catherine "Perry! I thought all the talk about Cat was mainly just talk!" Scardino=20 said to him. Perry White smiled, shaking his head. "Cat Grant is a sexy=20 woman, and from the sounds coming from that bedroom. I'd say a happy=20 one." Dan Scardino blushed and looked sheepish. "Should we go back to=20 the kitchen?" Perry looked at him and they both said in unision. "Naw!" Diego looked at Catherine and said, "Ohhh Princess the things that you=20 do to me." Cat picked up the satin sheet and rubbed it together making=20 little sounds like a dove cooing. Together, Diego and Catherine popped=20 open a bottle of champagne and sprayed it onto the bedroom door. Then=20 listening intently they heard, "Wow, they are sipping bubbly!" Cat had=20 to burry her head in a pillow to keep from laughing aloud. Diego went=20 into the bathroom and closed the door and laughed until tears ran down=20 his handsome tanned face. Cat entered the bathroom and the two of them sat on the large whirlpool=20 tub and laughed. "Diego, if they ever find out that we tricked them.=20 Well you know that my reputation as a Sex Goddess will be ruined!" Diego=20 kissed her and said, "Princess our reputations are safe." They both=20 collapsed into the empty tub with laughter. "Ouch! I bumped my head!"=20 Cat told him. Diego kissed the back of head and stroked her lovely long=20 mane. >tbc<=20 * * * * Re: Answering the front door Dick slowly sat up from the computer consel and yawned. The expansive=20 screen still highlighted the key areas of the now destroyed Observatory=20 that had taken the most damage. He glanced over at the cronometer as his=20 eyes widened. "Damn..." Dick hurried through the cave and dashed up the=20 steps.=20 >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Re: Answering the front door She started down the hallway and saw an open door. She knew it wasn't=20 Barbara's room and was about to walk past . . . >tbc< * * * * Re: Diego and Catherine Catherine looked at Diego as they sat in the tub. "You know this would=20 be much better if we added water and bubble bath and declothed!" Diego=20 whispered in her ears. Catherine blushed but replied. "I have an idea!"=20 She got up and pulled on Diego's arm. "Let's run water in the bath and=20 put in bubble bath and then sneak back to the door to see if Perry and=20 Dan are still eavesdropping." Diego nodded in agreement and smiled. They ran water and Catherine poured expesive french bath oils in the=20 water. The scent permeated the room and floated into the bedroom. The=20 lovely floral aroma hit Perry and Dan's noses as it floated under the=20 bedroom door. "Ohhhh, Dan now they are taking a bubble bath together."=20 Perry said dreamily. Dan Scardino didn't say anything except. "Ahhhh!"=20 Cat looked at Diego and whispered. "I think they have 'exhaled', we=20 really have them going!" Diego chuckled and said, "I wonder if Ramone=20 and Mayson know what those two are doing?" Cat shook her head. "Probably=20 not, they are wrapped up in each other." Ramone and Mayson sat at the table cuddling and kissing, unaware of the=20 eavesdropping Perry and Dan. Mayson hadn't been this happy in years. She=20 felt warm all over, lost in Ramone's kisses and Old World charms. Ramone=20 whispered sweet romantic notions in her ear and she nuzzled her nose=20 deep into his dark tanned chest, his chest hairs tickling her face. >tbc< * * * * Re: Answering the front door Clark sighed as he walked out of the shower and wrapped a towel around=20 his well-defined lower body. He didn't like the idea spending another=20 day with Lois here in Gotham. Ever since they had arrived, she had been=20 worse than usual! At least when they were at the Planet, she had a=20 breaking news story to keep her busy. For someone who didn't like the idea of spending time with Lois, he sure=20 couldn't get her off his mind! Throughout his whole shower he kept=20 imaging Lois was there. He even bumped into the shower tiles after he=20 tried kissing her. >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The Shower Scene ;) Clark made sure his towel was secure before walking out into the=20 bedroom. He needed to find something to wear. >tbc< * * * * Portals! Mayson and Ramone were laughing and kissing when the phone rang. Mayson=20 got up from the table and answered it. "Mayson Drake here!" The phone=20 had a lot of static on the line. "Listen carefully! The jig is up tempo=20 and the lights are going out! Can't stay!" The line went dead. Mayson=20 hung up the phone and went over to where Perry and Dan were=20 eavesdropping on Cat and Diego. She pushed past them with an apology and=20 knocked on the door. Diego answered it. "Diego, I just got the strangest=20 phone call." Diego and Cat came out of the bedroom and they all listened=20 intently to the events that had just happened to Mayson on the phone.=20 "Well, this is a lot bigger than we suspected, and we must all be very=20 careful," Diego told them. Cat looked at Perry. "Chief do you think we=20 should warn the others or wait until we know more?" Perry White thought=20 about it for a moment then replied, "I think we should keep this to=20 ourselves until we have more information. I mean, Lois is wound up=20 enough with what has happened in recent days, and I am sure that she and=20 Clark, Jimmy and the others are safe at Wayne Manor." Perry ran tired=20 fingers across his forehead. Cat looked at Diego. "Diego, I think you=20 should try to contact your Superiors!" Diego nodded and went to his=20 suite to get his secure phone. >tbc< * * * * Re: The Shower Scene ;) He was laying out his clothes for the day when he heard a noise. Clark walked to the door and peered outside. "Bruce, is=20 that you?" >tbc<=20 =20 * * * * Re: Portals! After Diego left to get his secure phone, Cat noticed that Perry and Dan=20 Scardino looked sheepishly at her every time they had eye contact. Cat=20 walked over to them and asked, "Did you enjoy eavesdropping?" Both men=20 blushed. Perry cleared his throat and replied, "Uhh Cat, no hon...We=20 uh...well...when you get my age it is refreshing to see...uh...hear two=20 people in love!" Cat walked over and ran a slender finger down his tie,=20 whispering in his ear, "Gotcha!" >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Re: Portals! Anya just about dropped dead when she got a look at the time. "Oh crap=20 that can't be right...I am going to be so late," she gasped. She grabbed=20 a bagal while muttering some colorful expressions in the three other=20 languages she knew besides English. She grabbed a napkin and spied an=20 ink pen on a table.=20 Dick, Thanks for the very interesting evening at the dance. (She underlined=20 the word interesting) I have to go since I am late for a college class.=20 Maybe we should get together some time. The number to my dorm room is=20 804-5555 and don't let my roomate scare you if she answers the phone.=20 =3Do)=20 Bye for now, Anya U. C. Starr=20 She grinned and rushed out the door to catch a cab. About a half hour later Anya slid into a seat in her English lit class=20 beside her roomate. Monica looked at her in amazement and whispered=20 fiercely "Where have you been?" she demanded. "You sound just like my dad, Anya Usagi Chryssa Starr do realize what=20 time it is? Anyway it's a long story," said Anya. The curly red headed=20 girl looked at her with a frown. "You know I have never heard your full name. Usagi Chryssa? What kind of=20 names are those. Girl you lucked out on the name catagory. If I were you=20 I'd change them," Monica stated.=20 "Chryssa was my grandma's name who lived in Greece. Usagi is Japanese=20 for rabbit. Don't ask me about that one. I went by that name when I lived in= =20 Japan. Anyway back to the story. To make it short, I got stuck in an elevato= r=20 during that earth quake last night, and spent the night at Bruce Wayne's=20 house,"=20 said Anya. "What? Lucky girl," she squeeled ignoring the look the English professor=20 gave her.=20 "You don't know the half of it," said Anya with a grin.=20 >tbc< =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Re: Looking for Anya Dick carefully moved the ancient grandfather clock from its resting=20 place as the morning light pierced through the shafts of the Batcave.=20 Peering around the corner, he nodded his head as he realized he was=20 alone. Cautious not to make any noise, Dick pushed the clock back to its=20 original position, resetting the hands on the gold plated face. He dashed through the library, utterly oblivious of his surroundings,=20 toward the massive staircase in the main foyer. With skilled grace, Dick=20 lept from the floor, executing a triple summersault, and grounded gently=20 on the second floor landing. He smiled to himself as he thought of his=20 father's approving nod to his aerial artistry display. Dick darted down the hall, passing several open doors, as well as sleepy=20 ballgoers, (was that Bruce he saw? And Lois? Where the hell was Clark,=20 anyway?) until he came to his room, and slowly opened the door. "Anya?" >tbc< * * * * Re: Portals! Sheepish Perry! Perry blushed as Cat's finger slid all the way down his tie and then=20 caught the end of it in her fingers and pulled it out in front of=20 her and then let it drop. "Chief, you and Dan are just two horndogs who=20 don't know when to walk away from a bedroom door! Diego and I knew that=20 you were there all of the time!" Dan walked over and said, "I wondered=20 how the two of you got your cloths on so quickly!" Cat smiled at him and=20 then smacked his face soundly. "Okay Cat, I deserved that." Scardino=20 said to her as he rubbed his jaw. Cat walked up close to him and said in=20 his face, "Next time I'll use my fist Mister!!!" Perry took her arm and=20 said gently to her, "Catherine I am sorry for not leaving your door. I=20 am just an old jerk." Cat looked at him and smiled. "No Chief you are=20 just a man!" Cat walked away from Dan and Perry thinking. *Well at least next time=20 they will think twice about eavesdropping on other people=92s privacy!* >tbc< * * * * Re: The Shower Scene ;) Sam heard Clark from inside the room. "Sorry, I'm not Bruce. Far from=20 it." =20 Sam ran right into his chest. "Excuse me," she said as she looked up.=20 Her eyes widened as she saw how-well defined he was. "Umm . . .."=20 Something felt . . .different about him, but she wasn't sure what. *. . .his body of steel . . .* echoed in her ear. *Bruce said that last=20 night. Wonder what he . . ..* "Oh my god." "I...I..." Clark stuttered. Suddenly he felt Sam's face bump into his=20 chest. He heard her apologizing and then he her heard mumble, 'oh my=20 god!' Clark was confused, what the heck was going on here? Clark went to=20 move some hair out of his eyes when it hit him. He WAS NOT wearing his=20 glasses and his hair was slicked back! "Oh God!" he exclaimed as he=20 looked up to the sky. Right now would be a good time to die. She took a step back. "You're . . ." she started, then looked at his=20 chest again and couldn=92t finish. She stood there, not sure what to say.=20 She looked at his face. "I must have been galactically stupid not=20 to see it. You and Bruce are friends. You're in Gotham, he's in Gotham.=20 I guess I should thank you," she stopped as she looked down again. =20 "Bruce said that you're the own who helped me get away from=20 Rich . . .Robin, or whatever he's calling himself."=20 >tbc< * * * * Look for Week #30 coming to a PC near you! =3D) Enjoy! Alexis ;-.) {"ADITLOM" arbitrator} "Very attractive. Young for a woman in her position." (Clark) "Typical." (Lois) "What?" (Clark) "Typical male response." (Lois) "Lois, trust me on this, I'm _not_ your typical male." (Clark) {LnC, Pilot} =20 =20 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 08:14:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: Next set of "object" games, plus combo post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alrighty, let's tackle these... and thanks, Hazel, for your continued efforts to amuse us children No checking of archives or hard drives... s p o i l e r s p a c e (gotta write me a macro to do that -- anyone know how to do that in Netscape?) > -- A reporter named Martha "A Life Well Spent" by Chris Mulder > -- A boy named Perry "Navigating Denial" by Zoomway > -- A lava lamp "The Quest" by Chris Mulder with help from me :) (I'd disqualify myself on this except LabRat has proved that you can't assume authors will know their own stories ) > -- A "bomb" made of cardboard "Lessons" by me :) > -- An extra-long cape I know this was by Tank, I think it was "The Costume" > -- A puppy named Mickey I'm blanking on the author (Lara?); I think the title is "Time to Adjust"?? > -- The Death Star The only one I can think of is "Escape from Krypton?" by Hazel, but I would have thought it was uploaded earlier than this year. -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 05:44:56 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Re: Next set of "object" games, plus combo post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii S P O I L E R S P A C E Okay, Hazel, I'll give this a try without checking the archive. > The following fics were all uploaded to the archive > in '99. They are also > all *short*. > > Identify a fic that contains: > > -- A reporter named Martha ??? > > -- A boy named Perry Navigating Denial by the great Zoomway > > -- A lava lamp The Quest (?) by Pam Jernigan ??? - I'm really not sure about this one at all. > > -- A "bomb" made of cardboard Lessons by Pam Jernigan > > -- An extra-long cape The Costume by Tank Wilson > > -- A puppy named Mickey ??? by Lara Blasingame > > -- The Death Star ??? by Hazel!! > > Ten points for identifying them now, without > checking the archives or your > hard drive! I hate to admit it, but I'm terrible with titles. I think I remember the authors though. Irene ===== "All writing is essentially bricks of plagarism secured in place by the mortar of original thinking." --William Dukane __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 17:44:11 GMT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bethy Em Subject: Re: Next set of "object" games, plus combo post Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Okay, this is without checking the archive. A reporter named Martha -- Don't know A boy named Perry -- Navigating Denial? A lava lamp -- The Quest A "bomb" made of cardboard -- Lessons An extra-long cape -- The Costume A puppy named Mickey -- "AARGH-I-know-I've-read-it-but-I'm-having-a-brain-fart-and-can't-remember-what-it's-called!" (Great title, Huh? :-þ) The Death Star -- No Idea ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 14:17:56 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: Next set of "object" games, plus combo post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Now, on to the next set of "identify the fic that has this object." Really, > folks, we need a decent name here! ;) How about Scavenger Hunts? :) And please forgive my mental lapse in my previous entry, for some reason I was thinking of fics released in 2000, not 1999 as stated... -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!" ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 13:40:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Mister D eight a Subject: Re: Pseudo-scientific fanfic question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- kubitc wrote: > To warn you, some heavy, tangential science follows...< No kidding! I felt like I was in college again! > James, I'm not trying to rip apart your theory. Considering we've been talking about scientific accuracy on the show and in fanfic, though, I wanted to point out a few things. Feel free to ignore the science and just go with your theory, as so many fanfics do. I just wanted to show you a few places where I had questions. Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu< I don't have a problem with your post. I think that there was some misunderstands, but I tend to write in verbal shorthand that I think everyone gets but doesn't. This is part of the reason I refuse to discuss religious matters with my brother in-law via e-mail because I rarely get across exactly what I want in simple written language and we end up with a jihad. Anyway, I enjoyed your responce. Thank You. James ===== Mr. D8a - AIM id is mrd8astl Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father, who is in heaven. - Matthew 7:21 Go to WWW.FREEWWWEB.COM for the best Free Internet access! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 08:57:04 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny or Joe Stosser Subject: fanfiction site find In-Reply-To: <20000514204006.7865.qmail@web205.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I found a story in the Comics section of www.fanfiction.net, in the DC Superheroes section, which is basically a rewrite of the Pilot episode of L&C. Check out http://www.fanfiction.net/master.cfm?action=story-read&storyid=1726 if you're interested. Jen jenerator@free.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318 Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 19:15:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Marnie Rowe Subject: Re: OT: Notes from an Inexperienced Chili Taster Named Frank MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tara thank you this was an absolute hoot, i know that it is off topic but you could see Lois in the same postion and looking daggers at her husband for not taking her place.... lol Marnie ----- Original Message ----- From: "StarKitty" To: Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 1:57 AM Subject: OT: Notes from an Inexperienced Chili Taster Named Frank > Ok, I know, I know--this is *way* off topic. I just couldn't resist! This > is so funny! > > Tara > > > > > Subject: Notes from an Inexperienced Chili Taster Named Frank > > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 19:00:09 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: fanfiction site find On Mon, 15 May 2000 08:57:04 +1000, Jenny or Joe Stosser wrote: >I found a story in the Comics section of www.fanfiction.net, in the DC >Superheroes section, which is basically a rewrite of the Pilot episode of >L&C. Check out >http://www.fanfiction.net/master.cfm?action=story-read&storyid=1726 if >you're interested. > It's also on the Archive, I think. It looked interesting at the time, but I skipped it for the same reason I'll skip it now. There are no para breaks and it's too much like hard work trying to figure it out when it's all running together in one block. Hate that. I think I'm missing an interesting fic though. :( Yup, just checked and it is on the Archive. BTW, while trawling through the 'J's...Pam, are you about to overtake Wendy for the title of most prolific author on the Archive? That was a heck of a long list of fanfic I had to go through to get to Jonsson. ;) LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 17:16:34 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: TA Merrill Subject: Re: Next set of "object" games, plus combo post MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Spoiler Space ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Identify a fic that contains: > > -- A reporter named Martha Ummmmmhhh.... sounds famaliar > > -- A boy named Perry Zoomway wrote it and it's funny - can't come up with the name though > > -- A lava lamp "The Search" or "The Hunt" (something like that) by Pam (or was it Chris?) > > -- A "bomb" made of cardboard Again, it sounds famaliar, but I can't place it > > -- An extra-long cape "The Costume" by Tank > > -- A puppy named Mickey "Time to Adjust" by Lara B (but didn't someone recently "borrow" Micky for another fic?) > > -- The Death Star Definitely Hazel, but the title escapes me TerriAnn __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 20:34:05 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: SUBSCRIBE Lab Rat Subject: Re: Next set of "object" games, plus combo post L A B R A T S C O O L S P O I L E R S P A C E Okay, I'll try - >> -- A lava lamp The Quest by Pam Jernigan and Chris Mulder? > -- The Death Star Um...Escape from Krypton maybe, by our very own quizmistress? LabRat :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 21:38:59 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: fanfiction site find MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > BTW, while trawling through > the 'J's...Pam, are you about to overtake Wendy for the title of most > prolific author on the Archive? That was a heck of a long list of > fanfic I had to go through to get to Jonsson. ;) Err, no, I doubt Wendy's title is in any jeopardy whatsoever -- I've just got a three-year head start on her, is all :) And when you look at the *length* of the stories, well, that's a whole other thing. There's a reason I did so well on the short-story scavenger hunt: short stories are my natural medium :) Besides, Wendy's still writing, and I seem to be stalled... -- Pam Jernigan / ChiefPam / jernigan@bellsouth.net http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam Jason: "Brandon, I remember you from the convention, right? You asked all these little technical questions about the ship ... and I was a little short with you." Brandon: "Yes, yes, I know Commander, and I actually wanna -- I just wanted to tell you that I -- I thought a lot about what you said." J: "It's okay. Listen." B: "But I want you to know that I'm not a complete brain case, okay? I understand completely that it's just a TV show." J: "Hold -- Wait a minute. It's all real." B: "Omigod, I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!"