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Sorry about the cross posting. wanted to make sure I got to everyone again.

I have made a couple of copies of Rag & Bone in PAL format (not NTSC which
you need to view the tape in North America).
I will be sending these copies to the kind folcs listed below who will
convert (if necessary) and make copies to distribute to other FoLCs who are
after a copy of this tape.

The kind FoLCs are:  Anne Ciotola (contact her at lnclvr@aol.com) and
Brenda Arendt (contact her at d.arendt@worldnet.att.net) in the US, and for
Europe please contact Nicole Wolke at NKWolke@eifel-net.net.

THanks for all your support and interest.

Jen
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Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage:
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Maybe you guys could have her send an e-mail at least to Dan?  Or let him
know she's alive somewhere?  Even if they can't get together?  I mean, I
really felt sorry for him from what he said in his last e-mail.  He just
lost the woman he loved, after all . . .

Tara

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Awww darn.... I feel so sad... I wish Lara could come back from
Alt-Metropolis just to say goodbye.. :(  Great role-playing Yael! <G>

Alexis ;-.)
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In a message dated 10/15/99 12:24:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jilectan@EMAIL.COM writes:

<< Maybe you guys could have her send an e-mail at least to Dan?  Or let him
 know she's alive somewhere?  Even if they can't get together?  I mean, I
 really felt sorry for him from what he said in his last e-mail.  He just
 lost the woman he loved, after all . . .
  >>

Yeah that would be nice.  But I think in this case Dan shouldn't know since
she is in a alt-world.  But i will keep that in mind when i write my fanfic
about her.  Lara may seem happy right now... but things are going to be very
different over there.  Especially with a Clark who is claiming to be hers..
so to speak!

Alexis ;-.)
{aka: Lara}
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Ok, here's part 4.  Its been up on the msg board for a couple of days, now,
and I should have part 5 up soon.

The Black Circle pt 4

Stapleton nudged the unconscious superhero with one foot.  The man didn=92t
even twitch.

=93The spell worked!=94 Eric crowed.

=93Shut up, you idiot!=94 Marge snapped.  She was watching the superhero, a=
s
well.  =93What now, master?=94

=93Now we place the controlling spell on him.=94

=93But . . . but we=92ve got him in our power!  Why don=92t we just destroy=
 him
now!=94

Stapleton favored the man with a withering stare.  =93We don=92t have enoug=
h
power, yet, to injure him!  We stick to the plan!=94

=93Yes, sir,=94 Eric muttered.

=93Let=92s cast the control spell, quickly.  Before someone shows up,=94 Ma=
rge
suggested nervously.

=93Right.=94  Stapleton motioned for the other two to get into position, th=
en
placed a talisman inscribed with a single rune on Superman=92s forehead.  H=
e
began chanting, holding his hands over the collapsed superhero.  The other
two hurriedly joined him.

Superman twitched and groaned a couple of times while they were casting the
spell, then was silent.  Stapleton removed the talisman from Superman's
forehead and held it in the air.

=93The mechanism of our control!=94 he proclaimed triumphantly.  =93Now our=
 plans
will have no opposition!=94

Bobby Bigmouth chewed rapturously.  =93This is great, Lois!  Where=92d ya s=
ay
you got this from?=94

=93Bobby!  The Black Circle?=94 Lois prompted him.

=93Oh, yeah, right.  That=92s a really creepy bunch.   Ya know, the whole r=
obes
and chanting thing.  They=92re supposed to be able to cast spells and stuff=
.=94=20
He gave her a meaningful look.  =93I think they=92re a few slices short of =
a
pie, you know?=94

Lois tugged the pie box a little farther away from Bobby.  =93Are they
connected with those murders?=94

=93Maybe.=94  He looked uneasy.  =93They=92re pretty secretive, though.  Th=
eir
members won=92t talk about their meetings to anybody.=94

=93Meetings?=94

=93Yeah.  This old abandoned warehouse in Suicide Slum.=94  He fished aroun=
d in
a pocket and produced a scrap of paper.  =93Here ya go.=94

She accepted the paper.  =93What about the missing FBI agent?=94

=93Don=92t know nothin=92 about her.  Last I heard she was workin=92 with t=
he cops.=94

Lois sighed and let Bobby take the pie.  =93If you hear anything more . . .=
=94

Bobby nodded, taking a huge bite of pie.  =93Yeah, yeah.  I=92ll letcha kno=
w.=94

Cindy shut the lights of the car off and turned to Tank.  =93I=92m going in=
 to
investigate.  I want you to stay here and stay out of sight!  Understand?=
=94

=93You got it, lady,=94 Tank agreed fervently.  If the Inner Circle saw him
hanging around the warehouse at this time of night without being called
there, they=92d know something was up.

Cindy pulled her gun out of her shoulder holster and checked the cartridge
before replacing it and half sealing her jacket against the cold evening
air.  She got out of the car and moved swiftly and silently away into the
darkness.

As Tank watched her go, worry crept into his thoughts.  How many cars
actually parked along this street at this time of day?  Just by sitting
here, he could be drawing attention to himself=97and jeopardizing Cindy.=20
Maybe if he hid in the alley, he=92d be less obvious.

With that thought, he sealed up his own jacket and slipped out of the car,
moving as quickly as he could into the alley beside the warehouse.

The alley was strewn with garbage, as was common in this section of town.=
=20
He tripped over an empty bottle and grabbed for something to stabilize
himself with.  As he straightened up, he caught sight of a grimy window tha=
t
was lit from within.  Some crates were loosely piled beneath it, providing =
a
handy staircase.

He looked around nervously.  He=92d never even thought of doing something l=
ike
this before!  He=92d seen it done in movies all the time, but had never
thought he=92d actually be doing it.  He went over to the crates and carefu=
lly
tested them for stability.  They seemed stable enough to support his weight=
,
so he climbed carefully up the crates until he reached the window.

The window, itself, was extremely grimy and looked as though it hadn=92t ev=
er
been cleaned.  Actually, considering what part of town this was, that was
extremely likely.  That made the windows almost impossible to see through,
though, so he rubbed his coat sleeve against the window until he=92d cleare=
d
some of the grime away and could see inside and peered through.

This was evidently a private meeting room for the Inner Circle, for he
didn=92t recognize the layout.  All nine Inner Circle members were gathered=
 in
the room around a pentagram that appeared to have been burned into the
concrete floor.  Nine torches burned around the circle, set at equal
distances apart, one for each Elder.  Inside the pentagram was a chair with
a strange woman on it.  She was bound to the chair and gagged and was
glaring at her captors venomously.

One Elder, who Tank recognized belatedly as Reverend Stapleton, motioned fo=
r
the others to take their positions before their torches.  They did so, and
began chanting.  Tank could barely hear them from his position, but what he
could hear sounded like Latin.  The strange woman threw her head back and
twisted her hands behind the chair, obviously attempting to free herself in
panic.  Above her head, a cloud of mist was forming.  As it took shape, it
slowly lowered toward the terrified woman, then sank into her.  She stilled
ominously.

As soon as the mist had completely vanished into the woman, Stapleton lifte=
d
a sword Tank had not noticed from the floor beside him and knelt beside the
pentagram.  Starting from the floor, he moved the sword in an arch just tal=
l
enough for him to move through.  Something glittered in the air before him,
then vanished in the arch he had just shaped.  He stepped through and went
directly to the woman, who was starting to show signs of wakefulness again.=
=20
He quickly removed the gag and stepped back outside the pentagram.

The woman straightened up on the chair and looked around the room.  She
grinned in a way that made Tanks skin crawl, and began to speak.  Whatever
she was saying, it sounded like no language he had ever heard.

Something shifted under Tanks feet and he clutched at the window, hoping
desperately no one would hear it.  The woman's gaze whipped around to the
window and Tank caught sight of her glowing red eyes just before the piled
crates gave way beneath him.

He landed hard in the wet garbage, but pushed himself to his feet and ran
from the alley and back out to the car.  He crouched beside the car,
trembling, then pulled the door open and slipped in, crouching low in the
seat.  A sound by the opposite door made him grab desperately for the lock
before he recognized Cindy.

She opened the door and got in, giving him a disgusted look.  =93I told you=
 to
stay here!=94

=93They have a woman in there!  I don=92t know what they=92re doing to her,=
 but .
. .=94

Cindy=92s expression changed immediately.  =93Which room are they in?  I di=
dn=92t
see anyone in there.=94

=93They=92re in the private meeting room.  They . . . they summoned somethi=
ng .
. . something terrible!=94 Tank shuddered.

=93They?  They who?=94

=93The Inner Circle!=94

Cindy muttered something under her breath and grabbed for her radio.  =93Th=
is
is Special Agent Cindy Reed.  I need backup at 1264 Tulip St.=94  She repla=
ced
the transmitter and leveled a finger at Tank.  =93Stay here!  I mean it!  I
might need you to get out of here quickly!=94

He nodded shakily.  =93Yes ma=92am.=94

Cindy grabbed a mag-light from the floor and pulled her gun from its holste=
r
before jumping from the car.

Cindy moved quickly back to the warehouse that she had just left.  She
opened the door, ignoring the non-functional security system, and shone the
flashlight in, crossing her wrists to aim within at the same time.  No one
was there, so she went swiftly down the corridor to the main meeting room,
carefully checking the doors that exited off the main corridor as she did
so.  Naturally no one was there, but she stayed cautious.  These people wer=
e
unpredictable, she knew that from her association with them for the last fe=
w
months.  They could do anything.

She went quickly, but cautiously, across the large room to the door the
Inner Circle always used to make their dramatic entrances.  She pushed it
open and stepped out of the way, then when nothing happened, stepped in
front of the door, warily aiming her gun down the hall before her.

This was a section none but the Inner Circle had been admitted to.  She
moved swiftly down the corridor, testing the few doors she passed as she di=
d
so.  All here were locked, though, so she reached the end of the corridor
quickly.

A flickering light shone from under this door, telling her plainly that thi=
s
was the door she was looking for.  This door, too, opened inward, so she
stepped back a pace and kicked it squarely in the middle.  The rusty hinges
gave instantly, and the door fell inwards.

Three not very surprised appearing Inner Circle members turned to face her
as she peeked around the corner.   The room was as Tank had said it would
be, down to the woman tied to the chair in the center of the room.  When sh=
e
was sure no one was lying in wait for her, she stepped into the room.=20
=93Federal agent!  Get down on your faces!=94

Stapleton Love chuckled softly.  =93Now why would we want to do something a=
s
foolish as that?  Especially when we have your partner!=94  He grabbed the
woman's hair and jerked her head up to reveal the features of her partner,
Joy Sowell.

Cindy swore softly.  =93Get away from her now!  I will shoot you!=94

He chuckled softly.  =93We will meet again, Special Agent Cindy Reed!=94  H=
e
reached into a pouch dangling from the belt of his robe and threw a handful
of glittering dust into the air.  It spread out across the three Elders and
flashed.  When Cindy could see again, they were gone.

to be continued . . .

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Hi Chief,

Good to see you back.  I hope that you enjoyed Graceland with Alice, but
did you get a bump on the head when you were there.  You know I don't wri=
te
'puff' pieces and I certainly  don't intend to give Carlton any favours
just because he happens to write my pay cheques.  In fact, I might give h=
im
a hard time until he gets the Planet rebuilt.  It's OK, Perry, just
kidding, but keep taking those pava leaves that Clark told you about.  Di=
d
you know that their good for pregnant women too?...... Must tell my
mother.....

Chief, we really need Underhill to come through for us if we're ever to
nail MacDonald.  I've tried every trick I know, and I've learnt a few,
mainly from this old newspaper hound dog I've come across, but I've hit a=

brick wall on this one.  So I guess it's up to you to close down this
story.

Lois

PS:  Now I might get to spend some more time with my husband.
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Hi Dan,

No I didn't realise you'd been taken off the case.  But, yes Clark and I
will work with this Mark guy if we come across him.  To tell the truth th=
e
investigation is winding up and we hope to nail the 'big boss' pretty
quick.  =

Harry Dow is going down for murder, Dan.  She shot Lara Wells and planted=

the bomb and we can prove it.

I'm so very sorry that you lost Lara.  I knew that you felt more for her
than you were willing to admit but I didn't realise that you cared so muc=
h.
 I wish it could have worked out differently but believe me, Dan, I doubt=

that Lara was the one for you; she had an other goal in mind. =

 I don't have the answer to your questions and sometimes life doesn't see=
m
to play fair.   Someday you will meet that 'special' person and it will b=
e
worth the wait.  I know because it happened to me.

Your friend,
Sincerely Lois
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Fanfic about Lara, huh?  Cool.  I can't wait to read it! :-)

Tara

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In a message dated 10/15/99 12:24:34 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jilectan@EMAIL.COM writes:

<< Maybe you guys could have her send an e-mail at least to Dan?  Or let him
know she's alive somewhere?  Even if they can't get together?  I mean, I
really felt sorry for him from what he said in his last e-mail.  He just
lost the woman he loved, after all . . .
>>

Yeah that would be nice.  But I think in this case Dan shouldn't know since
she is in a alt-world.  But i will keep that in mind when i write my fanfic
about her.  Lara may seem happy right now... but things are going to be very
different over there.  Especially with a Clark who is claiming to be hers..
so to speak!

Alexis ;-.)
{aka: Lara}

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In a message dated 10/15/99 1:07:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jilectan@EMAIL.COM writes:

<< Fanfic about Lara, huh?  Cool.  I can't wait to read it! :-)

 Tara
  >>

Thanks.  But don't hold your breath. It is on my waiting list of fics I need
to write!  First I need to finish my first ever LnC fic before i start
another one.. LoL!

Alexis ;-.)
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are you going to post it to the e-mail list?
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In a message dated 10/15/99 1:07:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jilectan@EMAIL.COM writes:

<< Fanfic about Lara, huh?  Cool.  I can't wait to read it! :-)

Tara
>>

Thanks.  But don't hold your breath. It is on my waiting list of fics I need
to write!  First I need to finish my first ever LnC fic before i start
another one.. LoL!

Alexis ;-.)

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Jude wrote:

>OOOOPS!  Many aplologies.  It *is* hard to tell.  Description still applies
>except for "his".   Jude

Aw, don't worry about it, Jude. You ain't the first. ;) Such are the hazards
of a non-gender-specific nick. Right, Zoom? <g> Confusion aside, I LOLled at
your description. And glad I could help. :) Look forward to seeing some of
that fic sometime.

LabRat :)
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Hi Yael!

Sorry to hear about your accident; hope you're feeling better now.

Your mail from Dan to Lois was so sweet - beautifully written. You
really should be writing fanfic yourself, if you're not already.

Best wishes,

Wendy
(who apologises for writing fic faster than you can read it <g>)
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On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:24:20 +0000 Tara Smith <jilectan@EMAIL.COM>
wrote:

> Maybe you guys could have her send an e-mail at least to Dan? Or let
him know she's alive somewhere?  Even if they can't get together?  I
mean, I really felt sorry for him from what he said in his last e-mail.
He just lost the woman he loved, after all . . . <

Best not... remember, Lara is thought to have died, and they've got her
(original) body to prove it. I doubt it would be a kindness to tell him
that a) Lara is alive after all, but he'll never see her again, and b)
he'll never see her again because she's fallen in love with Clark Kent
(again?). And I have to wonder if Scardino is up to dealing with
clones, time travel and parallel universes -- don't expect _me_ to
explain it to him, anyway! <g>

At least this way he has closure. It's hard, but the alternative(s) is
worse, IMO.

Just my 2 centi-quid....

Phil
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Welcome back, Chief!

> Are you trying to put your old editor out of a job?  I asked you to look
> after the Planet while I was gone, not make it look like I'm ready to be
put
> out to pasture!

Huh? I only told people you'd gone on vacation... I'm sorry if I did
something wrong.

> Seriously, son, you did a fine job and I'm proud of you.  Only Lois could
> have done a better job (but don't tell her I said so).

Thank you. Seriously, Chief, what do I have to do to be better than
her?

I've done that story on the London rail crash. You'll have to
acknowledge a couple of the British newspapers and the BBC news
website in this one, since I used their Internet resources. I got
our international office to clear the copyright first. And you're
right about the similarities, though Superman assures me that the
London crash was much more easily avoidable. He says that if the rail
companies had invested in the kind of technology which is available,
it wouldn't have happened. Personally, I see it as an argument
against trying to break up a natural monopoly on the railways. Once
you have more than one company trying to run the system, everyone
tries to pass the blame to everyone else.

> Now, I'm going to try and contact Ron Underhill again and re-arrange that
> meeting.  I think he might buy it if I can tell him that Superman will be
> with me to guarantee his safety.  Can you have a word with the big guy for
> me?

Sure. I'll ask him when I see him, but I think you can take it that
he'll be 'around.' Be careful, Chief. Three people already got
killed, and I wouldn't want to see it become four.

Clark.

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Wendy Richards
w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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Author's Note:

I am *so* sorry for not posting anything for such a long time!
I have an excuse though =) Last Friday I returned home and picked up the
phone to find... no dial tone. From a friend's phone I rang the local phone
company and they said they would come to my house to fix it - on Monday.  I
spent a rather boring weekend internetless *and* phoneless. On Monday the
phone company came, and decided the line was *too* broken to fix. Apparently
council workers who'd been installing sewerage at the bottom of my driveway
a month ago had severed the line and, instead of repairing it properly, had
taped it up. The rain we've been having recently exposed the tape and..
destroyed it. Anyway, the phone company finally got around to fixing it
today (Friday) so I'm back =) I apologize for any inconvenience I've caused
to anybody - obviously I haven't had time to read all 342 new mail messages
I received in the time I was away =) So bear with me, and I'll gradually
ease myself back into the game.

Thanks for your patience, and also thanks to Wendy Richards for agreeing to
fill in as arbitrator while I was supposed to be doing it in Yvonne's
absence =)

-- Tanya
(AKA Courtney Hart, Reporter: Metrolopis Star)

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Hi honey!

It feels so good *not* to have the title 'Acting Editor-in-Chief' any
more! Now I understand why you were so glad to give it up. There were
times when it felt good to be in a position to make decisions, to
make a difference in another kind of way. Choosing which stories to
lead with - trying to make people *care* about what happens in our
city; all that was good. But I hated the responsibility, the
administration, always having to settle arguments, to give orders and
act the heavy boss. It's just not me.

I still think you'd make a great editor. But then, you like giving
orders <g>.

Honey, I'm so glad Bernie's friend managed to do something to help
Lara. And leaving her in that Alt universe too... I don't know if
that Clark he met is the same one we know, but I hope they'll be
happy.

I need to keep an eye on Perry tonight - he's setting up another
meeting with Underhill. But I'll be home after that, so wait up for
me, okay? I've got you some of that Belgian chocolate you said you'd
started getting cravings for. (There's something I don't quite
understand, honey. I thought cravings were supposed to be for things
you wouldn't normally like?)

Love you, sweetheart.

Clark.

----------------------
Wendy Richards
w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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you're probably right, oh wise one! I sure wouldn't want to try to explain
anything like that!

Tara
------Original Message------
From: Phillip Atcliffe <Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK>
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On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 07:24:20 +0000 Tara Smith <jilectan@EMAIL.COM>
wrote:

> Maybe you guys could have her send an e-mail at least to Dan? Or let
him know she's alive somewhere?  Even if they can't get together?  I
mean, I really felt sorry for him from what he said in his last e-mail.
He just lost the woman he loved, after all . . . <

Best not... remember, Lara is thought to have died, and they've got her
(original) body to prove it. I doubt it would be a kindness to tell him
that a) Lara is alive after all, but he'll never see her again, and b)
he'll never see her again because she's fallen in love with Clark Kent
(again?). And I have to wonder if Scardino is up to dealing with
clones, time travel and parallel universes -- don't expect _me_ to
explain it to him, anyway! <g>

At least this way he has closure. It's hard, but the alternative(s) is
worse, IMO.

Just my 2 centi-quid....

Phil
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Very nice.  I love revelation stories and this one is really special.

Charlotte
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On it, Perry.  One Mac boat story coming up.

Have found found things a bit difficult since Lara's death.  Since she
didn't
have any next of kin ( "Wells" has yet to show up) I've been at her place
pulling together her things.   Chief, there's not much there -- it's like
she
only existed for the brief time she was In Metropolis.  There've been so
many
unexplained and illogical events in the past week.

Oh, & btw,  I'm pregnant . --- Just kidding, Chief <g>  Welcome back -- May
the King be with you.

Cat
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LOL, Labrat!

> Aw, don't worry about it, Jude. You ain't the first. ;) Such are the
hazards
> of a non-gender-specific nick. Right, Zoom? <g>

Okay, here I am, admitting that I thought our beloved Zoom-Mom was a guy! I
even
read my first Zoom fanfiction and kept thinking: "Well, this is weird. He
really
writes as if he was a woman." and never did the possibility cross my mind
that
Zoomway could just be that, a woman!

Nicole
--
AKA CKgroupie on IRC
NKWolke@eifel-net.net

Okay, I stop teasing you guys with "Heartache tonight" <g>, since that
little
baby seems to take longer than we expected, now that Pitty is moving. But
who
would have thought that you were actually *reading* the signature, hm?
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"C.C. Malo" wrote:

> Oh, & btw,  I'm pregnant . --- Just kidding, Chief <g>  Welcome back --
May
> the King be with you.
>

LOL, Carol, that was a good one! I bet Perry needed an extra dosis pava
leaves
after that!
Nicole
--
AKA CKgroupie on IRC
NKWolke@eifel-net.net

Okay, I stop teasing you guys with "Heartache tonight" <g>, since that
little
baby seems to take longer than we expected, now that Pitty is moving. But
who
would have thought that you were actually *reading* the signature, hm?
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In a message dated 10/15/1999 6:11:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
tanya_walsh@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<< So bear with me, and I'll gradually
 ease myself back into the game. >>

Yeah and you'll have to come up with a really good reason why no one could
find Courtney for a while. Even Superman was looking for her! This should be
interesting...

--Laurie
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> Okay, here I am, admitting that I thought our beloved Zoom-Mom was a guy!
I even
> read my first Zoom fanfiction and kept thinking: "Well, this is weird. He
really
> writes as if he was a woman." and never did the possibility cross my mind
that
> Zoomway could just be that, a woman!
>

Hey, don't feel bad ... when I first wrote e-mail to Chris Mulder, lo
these many years ago, I was certain that she was a guy <g> which kinda
worried me since I wanted to meet her in person ...  But then she
mentioned her husband, I think, and that cleared that up <g>
--
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"Good. Because I am a strange visitor from another planet."
--Lois & Clark, "Ordinary People"
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Point to ponder:  In the US in 1994,
there were 32 auto deaths for every 100,000 autos,
but only 16 firearm deaths for every 100,000 firearms.
--Reason Magazine, Nov 99, pp46-47.
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I have to open my big mouth and admit to a bias the other way :) I can't
remember offhand who it was, but I assumed that, because so many of us are
of the female persuasion, this person was a woman. Turns out he is very
much a man. Sorry, whoever it is... I have learned in a hurry to use
gender-nonspecific language until you discover the truth <VBVEG>

Melisma

At 08:51 AM 10/15/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> Okay, here I am, admitting that I thought our beloved Zoom-Mom was a
guy! I even
>> read my first Zoom fanfiction and kept thinking: "Well, this is weird.
He really
>> writes as if he was a woman." and never did the possibility cross my
mind that
>> Zoomway could just be that, a woman!
>>
>
>Hey, don't feel bad ... when I first wrote e-mail to Chris Mulder, lo
>these many years ago, I was certain that she was a guy <g> which kinda
>worried me since I wanted to meet her in person ...  But then she
>mentioned her husband, I think, and that cleared that up <g>
>--
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Pam Jernigan            |  jernigan@bellsouth.net
>ChiefPam on IRC         |
>-------------------------------------------------------
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>"Good. Because I am a strange visitor from another planet."
>--Lois & Clark, "Ordinary People"
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>-------------------------------------------------------
>Point to ponder:  In the US in 1994,
>there were 32 auto deaths for every 100,000 autos,
>but only 16 firearm deaths for every 100,000 firearms.
>--Reason Magazine, Nov 99, pp46-47.
>
>
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And, of course, I remember being in #kerthchat for this year's Kerth
Awards, and someone asked whether 'Phil,' as in Phil Atcliffe, was
short for Phyllis....

Wendy
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That wasn't me, thank goddess :) No, I think I knew from the get-go that
Phil was a guy. But, oh dag, was it Tank? Coulda been - I think it was one
of the Zoom's board guys... Course, HatMan was a dead giveaway! LOL.

/me shuts up before she embarrasss herself more - you know, open mouth
insert foot. I'm a pro at that :goofy

Melisma (who can't seem to remember whether she is on the boards or IRC -
oh yeah, none of the above... :)

At 02:10 PM 10/15/99 +0100, you wrote:
>And, of course, I remember being in #kerthchat for this year's Kerth
>Awards, and someone asked whether 'Phil,' as in Phil Atcliffe, was
>short for Phyllis....
>
>
>Wendy
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>Wendy Richards
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>
>
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This is actually a little bit longer that "Just Like That..?" but I'm
sending longer parts this time ;)  This part has been substantially
rewritten since it was posted to the message boards.

TITLE: Being Lois Lane
PART: 1/3
AUTHOR: Pam Jernigan (jernigan@bellsouth.net)
RATING: PG
FEEDBACK: Any and all kinds accepted, in public or private.  I'm still
working on this, so I'll take any helpful comments.
SUMMARY: This is a sequel to "Just Like That...?".  After being
kidnapped from her wedding, and losing her memory, Lois, as Wanda, had
let her soul be transferred into a blond clone.  Together with Lex, who
was also wearing a clone, she took off to Europe.  In Italy, she began
to remember her life as Lois, and escaped Lex in order to travel back to
Metropolis.  It took some time and a lot of angst before Clark could
believe that Lois was actually not dead, just blond, but by the end of
that story, he was convinced, and Lex, who had been hunting Lois, was
dead.  So, they're back together, but ... what now?

***

Lois woke slowly, aware of a blessed sense of safety.  For the first
time in weeks, she could relax.  Lex could no longer hurt her, and Clark
... well, she suspected he might believe her now.  She had a vague
memory of him carrying her to the bed, sometime after she'd fallen to
sleep in his arms.  And he'd stayed in bed next to her, holding her
close, keeping her safe.

She opened her eyes, confirming that she was lying in Clark's bed.  It
seemed to be fairly early in the morning, judging by the angle of the
sun, but then, she'd fallen asleep pretty early the night before.  She
turned her head, and saw Clark lying next to her, and had to smile.
Even the back of his head was adorable.  She wished that she felt
confident enough of him to cuddle up behind him, but she just couldn't
take the risk.

He had every reason to think she was crazy.  She looked nothing like
herself, anymore -- this clone body was fair-haired and blue-eyed, and
looked barely old enough to have graduated college.  And this business
of transferring a person's soul from one body to another ... well, if
she hadn't experienced it personally, she wouldn't have believed it
either.

He'd seemed sympathetic enough last night, on the street, after Lex had
tried to kill her.  Of course, some of that was probably just his
Superman persona at work ... but he had seemed to enjoy taunting Lex.
And since Lex had also been wearing a clone, wouldn't it follow that if
Clark had believed Lex, he should also believe her?

She rolled her eyes, disgusted at herself.  Speculation never got anyone
anywhere; she needed to go to the source.  Even if he didn't believe her
yet, he was probably well on his way, so she had nothing to fear.
Right?  Right.  She propped herself up on one elbow, facing Clark, and
nerved herself to shake his shoulder.

He rolled over towards her, his eyes opening slowly.  As he focused on
her, he frowned briefly in confusion, then smiled sleepily.  "Morning,
Lois."

His matter-of-fact tone momentarily robbed her of speech.  She bit her
lower lip in wonder and relief.  "You called me Lois."

He propped his head up on his elbow.  "Well, that's who you are, isn't
it?"  He grinned wryly.  "The packaging is a little different, I grant
you..."

She managed to smile at that, both elated and humbled that he had made
this leap of faith.  At his comment about her appearance, a new worry
surfaced.  "Yeah, about that ... what do you think?  I'm sure it'd look
better with some decent makeup; I'm kind of a wreck right now..."

He traced a finger lightly over her nose and jawline, then smiled.
"You're beautiful," he replied firmly.  "Yeah, you've changed ... but
it's still you, inside ... and that means you're beautiful."

Lois blinked back tears.  "I love it when you lie to me," she said
softly, a smile playing around her mouth.

He leaned over and put his arm around her waist, gently dragging her
across the bed towards him.  When she arrived at his side, giggling
softly at his strong-arm tactics, he grinned, then leaned down to kiss
her.  She returned the kiss with all the pent-up passion of the last few
days, reveling in the ability to express her love for him once more.

Eventually, they parted, and Clark looked down at her with a slightly
unfocused gaze.  "Wow.  Oh, Lois, I missed you."  He rolled onto his
back, pulling her head down to rest on his shoulder. "And it feels so
good to hold you again..."

*

They stayed like that for some time, as they wordlessly reconnected, but
Clark couldn't help worrying about the future, trying to work his way
around the many obstacles they still faced.  Surely, they didn't want to
publicize the clone story, so they were stuck with her new identity as
"Paula Bainbridge" and yet, none of their relatives or friends would
accept that Clark had fallen for someone else this quickly.  Maybe he
could just announce that he was taking off to tour the world, and come
back a few years later with a new wife ... or maybe he should know
better than to try to make decisions for Lois.  They needed to talk
about this.

Clark pulled back just far enough to be able to see her face.  "Lois, it
was a miracle that I got you back, and believe me, I'm grateful ... but
where do we go from here?"  He shrugged helplessly, waving a hand to
indicate the rest of their lives.  "What's our game plan?"

"Always with the sports metaphors."  She grinned, briefly distracted.
"Good to know *some* things don't change."

Clark smirked.  "Just trying to make you feel comfortable."

"Oh, thanks so much..." she rolled her eyes, but couldn't disguise a
smile.  "Actually, I've been thinking a lot about plans."  She sighed.
"I hate having to plan.  Mostly, I was figuring out how to survive
without you, but now that I don't have to worry about that ... you're
right, we have some choices to make.  For one thing..." she trailed a
finger along his arm, not meeting his eyes, "physical appearances can be
changed.  I mean, I could dye my hair brown, and get colored contacts
... They're doing amazing things with plastic surgery, even -- remember
the time Arianna Carlin had that girl made to look just like me?  It
would cost a lot of money, but..." her voice trailed off, uncertainly.

Clark leaned back, so he could get a good look at her.  While his heart
was certain that this was Lois, and his brain agreed, his eye was still
surprised with every glance, and part of him desperately wanted
everything to go back just the way it had been.  Her new appearance
would be a constant reminder of their ordeal.  Then again ... was it
fair to ask her to change, just to suit him?  Put like that, the answer
was obvious.

"Well," he replied slowly, choosing his words carefully, "if you *want*
to do any of that, I'll support it, of course.  But ... it seems to me
that it'd be an awful lot of trouble to go to -- not to mention the
physical risks of surgery -- when the results might not be worth it.
Lois, I love you because you're smart, and determined, and fiercely
loyal, and have so much love hiding inside ..."  He tipped her chin up
so that he could see her eyes.  "That's the sort of thing that matters.
I admit I liked the brown hair and fantastic body," he grinned,
slightly, trying to lighten the moment, and she had to smile in return.
"But this new body of yours really isn't bad at all, and you know I've
always had a weakness for blondes..."

Her smile broadened to a grin at that, and she playfully smacked his
shoulder.

"But it's your decision," he hastily concluded, "because it is your
body."

She shrugged, smiling just a little.  "You're the one who has to look at
it.  And if you don't mind that ... then I guess I'm okay with it too."
She paused.  "I might try dying my hair, for a while.  Although on the
other hand, I tried that when I was younger, and it was an incredible
pain -- always worrying about my roots, and having to re-color it every
month or so -- and then if you want to grow it out, it just looks really
weird for months.  Not to mention that it's bad for your hair, and I
haven't even had this hair very long yet, so I don't even know what kind
of care it needs when it's *not* color treated."

Clark controlled a smile.  As she said, it good to know some things
didn't change.  "Whatever you decide is fine with me, Lois.  As long as
you're healthy."  He paused, as doubt assailed him.  "You are healthy,
right?"

"I'm a little malnourished right now, but I'm really in excellent
shape."  She grimaced.  "Lex chose our new bodies carefully.  In fact
..." she hesitated, and ducked her head, addressing her next remark to
the sheets.  "He was planning to marry me when we got to Switzerland,
you know."

Clark felt himself tense, but willed himself to remain calm.  This was
all past history.  It was just that the thought of Lex touching Lois --
in any body -- was enough to make him angry and sick all at once.

She seemed to understand his distress, and hastened to reassure him,
laying a comforting hand on his chest.  "It's okay, Clark.  See, the
thing is, with these new bodies ... we were both ... well, technically,
anyway ... we were virgins again.  Not that I ever had sex with him in
my old body either," she added quickly.

"I know, you told me," he affirmed.  "But what does that have to do with
it?"

"Well, see, the idea of being a virgin on his wedding night -- for once
in his life, he said -- it amused him.  He was looking forward to it ...
and it's a good thing, too, because *Wanda* didn't care...." she
shuddered.  "But anyway, I don't have any really horrible memories to
deal with."

"So you mean, you and he...?" he asked, delicately.

"Didn't do anything," she replied firmly.

"Thank God," he breathed, holding her a little closer.  "I would have
understood, you know, and we would have dealt with it ... but I'm
*really* glad we don't have to."

She snorted agreement.  "You and me both.  But the rest of that story
is, this body is supposed to be fully functional, according to Lex.  I
should have a normal lifespan."  She paused as a huge yawn overtook
her.  "Longer than before, actually, since physiologically I'm now 22
again."

He raised an eyebrow.  "As long as you don't plan on ditching me in
favor of Jimmy."

She laughed at that.  "In his dreams!"

The sound of a distant siren caught Clark's attention, and he raised his
head to try to listen for more details.  When he looked down at Lois
again, she was smiling faintly.

"What is it?"

"Warehouse fire down by the harbor."  The fire department might be able
to handle it themselves, he supposed.

"I guess you'd better go, then."  She shrugged philosophically.  "I bet
it won't take you long."

Clark still hesitated, reluctant to leave her.  "Promise you won't go
anywhere?"

She smiled serenely.  "I may not even leave the bed."

Another siren joined the first, and Clark had to go, but he took the
time to kiss her goodbye on his way out.

*

Lois watched him streak away, and grinned.  All was normal in her world
... well, almost all.  And it was too early in the morning to be awake
by herself, so she rolled over and tried to recapture sleep.  Half an
hour later she conceded failure, and sat up.  She stretched, and was
reminded that she was still wearing last night's clothes.  She decided
to take advantage of Clark's absence to take a shower -- it had been a
little too long since her last one.

She took her time in the shower, enjoying the unlimited hot water.  When
she finally emerged from the bathroom, she found him in the kitchen,
with some promising white paper sacks, which claimed her immediate
attention.  "Ooh -- are those from that little French place?"

"Yep, I thought you'd recognize them," he chuckled, leaning against the
countertop.  "They're not quite as fresh as I'd like -- after all, it's
afternoon in Europe now -- but the one I had was pretty good.  I got an
assortment for you."

She crossed the kitchen and indulged in a quick hug and kiss.  "Mmm,
they smell great." She started to reach for the closest bag, but
stopped, as the too-long sleeve of the robe flopped down past her
fingertips.  "Let me get dressed."  She frowned, and sighed.  "I hope
you don't mind me borrowing your clothes again, because I sure don't
have anything clean to wear."

He grinned.  "You do now.  I picked up two sets of clothes that should
fit you.  They're in the bedroom."

She beamed up at him.  "Have I ever told you you're my hero?"

Clark chuckled at that, and kissed her again.  "Frequently.  But don't
feel you have to stop."

"Nothing is going to stop me, Clark; you should know that by now."
Smiling serenely, she ducked into the bedroom and quickly dressed.  She
ran her hands through her hair once more, but then gave up the attempt
at hairstyling -- Clark obviously didn't have a curling iron or blow
dryer.  Although, she grinned, he'd probably dry her hair with heat
vision if she asked him.  Never mind.  She'd do fine with the natural
look.

She hastened back out to the kitchen and joined Clark at the table,
devouring two croissants and a pastry in short order.  At Clark's
enquiring glance, she mumbled defensively, "I was hungry.  Besides," she
continued caustically, "I spent way too much time dieting and denying
myself in my other body, and look where *that* got me."  Judging by the
faintly alarmed look on Clark's face, he was picturing not only a young
blond wife, but a young blond *fat* wife.  She grinned, then relented.
"I'm going to take care of myself, Clark.  As soon as I get a moment,
I'll get a checkup, cholesterol check, and all that stuff.  Heck, I
don't even know what my blood type is now.  In the meantime, though, I
just want to recover from the last few weeks."

"What?"  He looked puzzled.  "I didn't mean -- I just want to make sure
you're okay," he explained.  "But you're right; I thought you looked
pretty worn out when you first showed up ... what was it, just yesterday
morning?  Seems like so much longer than that, somehow."

"Well, a lot's happened."  She sighed, and slumped back in her chair.
"And there's still a lot to do."

Clark moved his chair around to her side of the table and took her hand
in a comforting grip.  "We can do it; together we can do anything."

She smiled at him.  "I know.  And it won't get any easier by putting it
off, worse luck.  So ... we have to decide what to do about work."

"I've been thinking about that," Clark offered.  "We could leave
Metropolis, and get jobs somewhere else.  Philadelphia, maybe; it's
close enough that Superman wouldn't have to move the same time we did.
You've lost your resume, unfortunately, but the Inquirer's been wanting
to hire me for a while now, and I could probably slide you in as my
partner."

"That rag?"  She stared up at him in amazement.

"What?  Oh, not the National Enquirer, Lois," he laughed.  "The
Philadelphia Inquirer, which is a very respectable paper; they win
Kerths and Pulitzers almost as often as the Planet."

"Oh, right.  Well, I guess we could do that ... but I think I'd like to
try talking to Perry, first."  She squeezed his hand.  "I know I can't
just get my old life back ... everyone knows I'm dead.  And they're
probably going to think *you're* on the rebound, to hook up with "Paula
Bainbridge" so quickly.  But I want to talk to Perry, and Jimmy, and
maybe one or two others, and try to convince them.  They deserve to
know.  And maybe Perry'll hire me, as Paula, to be your partner."

"Hmm ... it's worth a try.  It might be rough, at first; people might
not like you trying to replace the great Lois Lane."

She sighed.  "I know.  But heck, none of them really *liked* me anyway,
back from when I was horrible to everyone.  If I'm nicer this time,
maybe they'll forgive me.  And I know I can do the work, so that's not a
problem."

"Hey, hey, it was never that bad."  Clark reached out to give her a
one-handed neck rub.  "A lot more people liked you than you think.  The
turnout at your funeral was very impressive," he added with macabre
cheer.

She had to chuckle at that.  "Sorry I missed it."

"It would have been a lot more fun with you there," he admitted, then
firmly left the topic behind.  "Whether we go back to the Planet or
somewhere else, I'm with you all the way.  And speaking of which ...
It's going to be a long time before I feel comfortable letting you out
of my sight, you know, so I was thinking...."  He paused.

She tilted her head, gazing at him thoughtfully.  "Yes?"

He smiled crookedly at her.  "Well, I was thinking we might as well get
married as quickly as possible."

Lois grinned at him.  "Now, that was a lovely proposal."

"Hey, I did the down-on-one-knee thing and you turned me down flat!"
Clark laughingly protested.

"I didn't say no, I said not yet; get your facts straight, Kent, or I'll
go to work for the Star and beat you out of next year's Kerths."

"No, no, don't do that!  Perry would kill me -- and *I* haven't got any
spare bodies lying around!"

She rolled her eyes, enjoying the banter.  "Excuses, excuses.  But I'll
take pity on you ... I'll marry you."

"Married out of pity," he moaned, clutching his heart dramatically.
"How can I stand it?"

She lifted an eyebrow at his theatrics.  "Well, if you'd rather not--"

"No, no," he interrupted, smoothing his face into a parody of
seriousness, with just a hint of lechery thrown in.  "I'll take you any
way I can get you."

"Ah, that's the attitude I like to see," she grinned.  "So ... know
anybody who could fly me to Las Vegas?  We could get a mariachi band, a
few amiable passers-by ... I can see it now."  She pantomimed gesturing
to unknown persons across the room.  "Hey, you, wanna come to a
wedding?  Yeah, I'm a clone, and he's an alien; it should be fun!"

Clark laughed.  "Obviously we were made for each other."

"Yeah, we were..." she paused, watching him, feeling a wave of love
towards him that almost choked her in its intensity.  He caught the
look, and returned it.  She leaned forward, and he met her halfway for a
long, sweet kiss.

Clark eventually drew back, taking a deep breath and blinking.  "Well.
Where were we?"

She thought back for a moment.  "On our way to Vegas, I think.  If
you're sure...?  It'll look awful for you to marry again this quickly,
you know.  I saw some of the tabloid coverage..."  There had been some
fairly lurid and horrible stories covering the Clark-Lois-Lex debacle.

Clark shook his head firmly.  "Let them say what they want.  I know I'm
not doing anything wrong, so the worst they can say is that I'm being an
idiot.  Which is none of their business.  And there is nothing I'd like
more," he reached over to cup her face with his hand, "than to marry
you.  We can have a reception with our family and friends later, after
we've told them about you, but I don't want to wait."

She smiled helplessly, tilting her head into his palm, unable to argue
this.  "Let's go, then."

"Okay."  He spun into his Superman suit, and scooped her up.  "On the
way, we can decide what sort of chapel we want.  Any preferences?"  He
floated her over to the balcony, paused to lock the door behind him, and
lifted off slowly.

"No, not really, anything will do."  She broke into a sudden grin.  "As
long as it's *not* Blue Suede Deliverance!"

***

Late that night, Lois lay in bed cuddled next to her new husband,
wearing nothing but a wedding ring and a pensive expression.  "Does this
seem a little unreal to you?  I spent the last two weeks trying
desperately to get here -- but I never really thought further than
that.  So now ... it's like I've stepped off a cliff -- I don't know
what's going to happen next, and it's making me feel very unsettled."

His arms tightened around her as he murmured, "You know I'd never let
you fall."

"I know."  She fell silent for a moment, awash in contentment.  "It's
very liberating, in a weird way.  I could leave my old life behind
altogether, or pick and choose who to reconnect with ... like I've been
reborn."

"I'm glad you picked me." Clark murmured, kissing her hair.  "Who else
are we going to tell?"

"Well, Perry and Jimmy, at least," she replied, slowly.  She was not yet
tired enough to sleep, but enough that her brain felt as if it were
running in slow motion.  A very comfortable state indeed, after the past
few weeks of necessary hyper-alertness.  "And we have to tell your
parents -- I was thinking of telling them earlier, actually."  She
turned her head to search for his face in the dim room.  "Can we fly out
there tomorrow?"

"I'm supposed to go back to work..." He chewed his lip, considering it.
"But I don't have anything urgent waiting for me, and Perry keeps urging
me to take 'time to heal,' so he wouldn't mind if I took a sick day."

"You can play hookey, then," she concluded in satisfaction.  "You always
said you wanted to."

He laughed softly.  "Yeah, I guess I did.  But it's a lot more fun with
a friend."  That called for a few friendly kisses.

Clark laid back against the pillows, cuddling her close to his chest.
"So, that's my parents ... how about yours?"

Lois frowned, contemplating the unhappy state of her relationships with
her family.  "I really don't want to."

"I didn't figure you did," he stated neutrally.

"You think I ought to, though, don't you?"

"I'm not going to tell you what to do."  He hesitated, then continued,
"I just don't want you to have any regrets, later."

Lois sighed, and thought about her mother.  The most annoying,
exasperating, crazy-making ... Ellen had made her life a misery as a
teenager--having to deal with her mother's alcoholism had been fairly
awful.  She was on the wagon now, thankfully, but still as neurotic as
ever.

"And then, too," Clark continued, "once you start keeping a secret from
someone, you're stuck.  As time goes by, the secret gets harder and
harder to tell."

Lois grinned and turned to look at him.  "Speaking from personal
experience, are we?"

"Painful experience," he affirmed, grinning wryly.

She acknowledged the truth of that with a noisy sigh.  "Okay, point
taken.  I'll think about it."

Clark hugged her.  "That's all I'm asking."

***
to be continued :)

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> -- Tanya
> (AKA Courtney Hart, Reporter: Metrolopis Star)
                                ^^^^^^^^^^

A-ha! This is obviously the Grauniad's sister paper in the US! <g>

[For those who don't know what I'm talking about, the Guardian
newspaper here is notorious for its typos and mis-spellings (amongst
other things), so much so that it is often referred to as the Grauniad.]

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On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 15:13:47 -0400 Phillip Atcliffe
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> A-ha! This is obviously the Grauniad's sister paper in the US! <g>
>
> [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, the Guardian
> newspaper here is notorious for its typos and mis-spellings (amongst
> other things), so much so that it is often referred to as the Grauniad.]

Was, Phil, was! It's not so bad these days, even if it did confuse
the Poet Laureate with Diana's biographer this week!

Wendy

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Awww, I'm happy you're continuing the story, Pam! I wanted to read a really
nice reunion and I got one! There were so many nice, waffy moments.
Especially these here:

> He traced a finger lightly over her nose and jawline, then smiled.
> "You're beautiful," he replied firmly.  "Yeah, you've changed ... but
> it's still you, inside ... and that means you're beautiful."
>

and a little later:

> Eventually, they parted, and Clark looked down at her with a slightly
> unfocused gaze.  "Wow.  Oh, Lois, I missed you."  He rolled onto his
> back, pulling her head down to rest on his shoulder. "And it feels so
> good to hold you again..."
>

Hmmmmmmm! WAFFY! I love it!

Nicole
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Okay, I stop teasing you guys with "Heartache tonight" <g>, since that
little baby seems to take longer than we expected, now that Pitty is moving.
But who would have thought that you were actually *reading* the signature,
hm?
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You've fleshed this out nicely from the first draft, Pam.  I like the new
version.

Nan

Pam Jernigan wrote:

> This is actually a little bit longer that "Just Like That..?" but I'm
> sending longer parts this time ;)  This part has been substantially
> rewritten since it was posted to the message boards.
>
> TITLE: Being Lois Lane
> PART: 1/3
> AUTHOR: Pam Jernigan (jernigan@bellsouth.net)
> RATING: PG
> FEEDBACK: Any and all kinds accepted, in public or private.  I'm still
> working on this, so I'll take any helpful comments.
> SUMMARY: This is a sequel to "Just Like That...?".  After being
> kidnapped from her wedding, and losing her memory, Lois, as Wanda, had
> let her soul be transferred into a blond clone.  Together with Lex, who
> was also wearing a clone, she took off to Europe.  In Italy, she began
> to remember her life as Lois, and escaped Lex in order to travel back to
> Metropolis.  It took some time and a lot of angst before Clark could
> believe that Lois was actually not dead, just blond, but by the end of
> that story, he was convinced, and Lex, who had been hunting Lois, was
> dead.  So, they're back together, but ... what now?
>
> ***
>
> Lois woke slowly, aware of a blessed sense of safety.  For the first
> time in weeks, she could relax.  Lex could no longer hurt her, and Clark
> ... well, she suspected he might believe her now.  She had a vague
> memory of him carrying her to the bed, sometime after she'd fallen to
> sleep in his arms.  And he'd stayed in bed next to her, holding her
> close, keeping her safe.
>
> She opened her eyes, confirming that she was lying in Clark's bed.  It
> seemed to be fairly early in the morning, judging by the angle of the
> sun, but then, she'd fallen asleep pretty early the night before.  She
> turned her head, and saw Clark lying next to her, and had to smile.
> Even the back of his head was adorable.  She wished that she felt
> confident enough of him to cuddle up behind him, but she just couldn't
> take the risk.
>
> He had every reason to think she was crazy.  She looked nothing like
> herself, anymore -- this clone body was fair-haired and blue-eyed, and
> looked barely old enough to have graduated college.  And this business
> of transferring a person's soul from one body to another ... well, if
> she hadn't experienced it personally, she wouldn't have believed it
> either.
>
> He'd seemed sympathetic enough last night, on the street, after Lex had
> tried to kill her.  Of course, some of that was probably just his
> Superman persona at work ... but he had seemed to enjoy taunting Lex.
> And since Lex had also been wearing a clone, wouldn't it follow that if
> Clark had believed Lex, he should also believe her?
>
> She rolled her eyes, disgusted at herself.  Speculation never got anyone
> anywhere; she needed to go to the source.  Even if he didn't believe her
> yet, he was probably well on his way, so she had nothing to fear.
> Right?  Right.  She propped herself up on one elbow, facing Clark, and
> nerved herself to shake his shoulder.
>
> He rolled over towards her, his eyes opening slowly.  As he focused on
> her, he frowned briefly in confusion, then smiled sleepily.  "Morning,
> Lois."
>
> His matter-of-fact tone momentarily robbed her of speech.  She bit her
> lower lip in wonder and relief.  "You called me Lois."
>
> He propped his head up on his elbow.  "Well, that's who you are, isn't
> it?"  He grinned wryly.  "The packaging is a little different, I grant
> you..."
>
> She managed to smile at that, both elated and humbled that he had made
> this leap of faith.  At his comment about her appearance, a new worry
> surfaced.  "Yeah, about that ... what do you think?  I'm sure it'd look
> better with some decent makeup; I'm kind of a wreck right now..."
>
> He traced a finger lightly over her nose and jawline, then smiled.
> "You're beautiful," he replied firmly.  "Yeah, you've changed ... but
> it's still you, inside ... and that means you're beautiful."
>
> Lois blinked back tears.  "I love it when you lie to me," she said
> softly, a smile playing around her mouth.
>
> He leaned over and put his arm around her waist, gently dragging her
> across the bed towards him.  When she arrived at his side, giggling
> softly at his strong-arm tactics, he grinned, then leaned down to kiss
> her.  She returned the kiss with all the pent-up passion of the last few
> days, reveling in the ability to express her love for him once more.
>
> Eventually, they parted, and Clark looked down at her with a slightly
> unfocused gaze.  "Wow.  Oh, Lois, I missed you."  He rolled onto his
> back, pulling her head down to rest on his shoulder. "And it feels so
> good to hold you again..."
>
> *
>
> They stayed like that for some time, as they wordlessly reconnected, but
> Clark couldn't help worrying about the future, trying to work his way
> around the many obstacles they still faced.  Surely, they didn't want to
> publicize the clone story, so they were stuck with her new identity as
> "Paula Bainbridge" and yet, none of their relatives or friends would
> accept that Clark had fallen for someone else this quickly.  Maybe he
> could just announce that he was taking off to tour the world, and come
> back a few years later with a new wife ... or maybe he should know
> better than to try to make decisions for Lois.  They needed to talk
> about this.
>
> Clark pulled back just far enough to be able to see her face.  "Lois, it
> was a miracle that I got you back, and believe me, I'm grateful ... but
> where do we go from here?"  He shrugged helplessly, waving a hand to
> indicate the rest of their lives.  "What's our game plan?"
>
> "Always with the sports metaphors."  She grinned, briefly distracted.
> "Good to know *some* things don't change."
>
> Clark smirked.  "Just trying to make you feel comfortable."
>
> "Oh, thanks so much..." she rolled her eyes, but couldn't disguise a
> smile.  "Actually, I've been thinking a lot about plans."  She sighed.
> "I hate having to plan.  Mostly, I was figuring out how to survive
> without you, but now that I don't have to worry about that ... you're
> right, we have some choices to make.  For one thing..." she trailed a
> finger along his arm, not meeting his eyes, "physical appearances can be
> changed.  I mean, I could dye my hair brown, and get colored contacts
> ... They're doing amazing things with plastic surgery, even -- remember
> the time Arianna Carlin had that girl made to look just like me?  It
> would cost a lot of money, but..." her voice trailed off, uncertainly.
>
> Clark leaned back, so he could get a good look at her.  While his heart
> was certain that this was Lois, and his brain agreed, his eye was still
> surprised with every glance, and part of him desperately wanted
> everything to go back just the way it had been.  Her new appearance
> would be a constant reminder of their ordeal.  Then again ... was it
> fair to ask her to change, just to suit him?  Put like that, the answer
> was obvious.
>
> "Well," he replied slowly, choosing his words carefully, "if you *want*
> to do any of that, I'll support it, of course.  But ... it seems to me
> that it'd be an awful lot of trouble to go to -- not to mention the
> physical risks of surgery -- when the results might not be worth it.
> Lois, I love you because you're smart, and determined, and fiercely
> loyal, and have so much love hiding inside ..."  He tipped her chin up
> so that he could see her eyes.  "That's the sort of thing that matters.
> I admit I liked the brown hair and fantastic body," he grinned,
> slightly, trying to lighten the moment, and she had to smile in return.
> "But this new body of yours really isn't bad at all, and you know I've
> always had a weakness for blondes..."
>
> Her smile broadened to a grin at that, and she playfully smacked his
> shoulder.
>
> "But it's your decision," he hastily concluded, "because it is your
> body."
>
> She shrugged, smiling just a little.  "You're the one who has to look at
> it.  And if you don't mind that ... then I guess I'm okay with it too."
> She paused.  "I might try dying my hair, for a while.  Although on the
> other hand, I tried that when I was younger, and it was an incredible
> pain -- always worrying about my roots, and having to re-color it every
> month or so -- and then if you want to grow it out, it just looks really
> weird for months.  Not to mention that it's bad for your hair, and I
> haven't even had this hair very long yet, so I don't even know what kind
> of care it needs when it's *not* color treated."
>
> Clark controlled a smile.  As she said, it good to know some things
> didn't change.  "Whatever you decide is fine with me, Lois.  As long as
> you're healthy."  He paused, as doubt assailed him.  "You are healthy,
> right?"
>
> "I'm a little malnourished right now, but I'm really in excellent
> shape."  She grimaced.  "Lex chose our new bodies carefully.  In fact
> ..." she hesitated, and ducked her head, addressing her next remark to
> the sheets.  "He was planning to marry me when we got to Switzerland,
> you know."
>
> Clark felt himself tense, but willed himself to remain calm.  This was
> all past history.  It was just that the thought of Lex touching Lois --
> in any body -- was enough to make him angry and sick all at once.
>
> She seemed to understand his distress, and hastened to reassure him,
> laying a comforting hand on his chest.  "It's okay, Clark.  See, the
> thing is, with these new bodies ... we were both ... well, technically,
> anyway ... we were virgins again.  Not that I ever had sex with him in
> my old body either," she added quickly.
>
> "I know, you told me," he affirmed.  "But what does that have to do with
> it?"
>
> "Well, see, the idea of being a virgin on his wedding night -- for once
> in his life, he said -- it amused him.  He was looking forward to it ...
> and it's a good thing, too, because *Wanda* didn't care...." she
> shuddered.  "But anyway, I don't have any really horrible memories to
> deal with."
>
> "So you mean, you and he...?" he asked, delicately.
>
> "Didn't do anything," she replied firmly.
>
> "Thank God," he breathed, holding her a little closer.  "I would have
> understood, you know, and we would have dealt with it ... but I'm
> *really* glad we don't have to."
>
> She snorted agreement.  "You and me both.  But the rest of that story
> is, this body is supposed to be fully functional, according to Lex.  I
> should have a normal lifespan."  She paused as a huge yawn overtook
> her.  "Longer than before, actually, since physiologically I'm now 22
> again."
>
> He raised an eyebrow.  "As long as you don't plan on ditching me in
> favor of Jimmy."
>
> She laughed at that.  "In his dreams!"
>
> The sound of a distant siren caught Clark's attention, and he raised his
> head to try to listen for more details.  When he looked down at Lois
> again, she was smiling faintly.
>
> "What is it?"
>
> "Warehouse fire down by the harbor."  The fire department might be able
> to handle it themselves, he supposed.
>
> "I guess you'd better go, then."  She shrugged philosophically.  "I bet
> it won't take you long."
>
> Clark still hesitated, reluctant to leave her.  "Promise you won't go
> anywhere?"
>
> She smiled serenely.  "I may not even leave the bed."
>
> Another siren joined the first, and Clark had to go, but he took the
> time to kiss her goodbye on his way out.
>
> *
>
> Lois watched him streak away, and grinned.  All was normal in her world
> ... well, almost all.  And it was too early in the morning to be awake
> by herself, so she rolled over and tried to recapture sleep.  Half an
> hour later she conceded failure, and sat up.  She stretched, and was
> reminded that she was still wearing last night's clothes.  She decided
> to take advantage of Clark's absence to take a shower -- it had been a
> little too long since her last one.
>
> She took her time in the shower, enjoying the unlimited hot water.  When
> she finally emerged from the bathroom, she found him in the kitchen,
> with some promising white paper sacks, which claimed her immediate
> attention.  "Ooh -- are those from that little French place?"
>
> "Yep, I thought you'd recognize them," he chuckled, leaning against the
> countertop.  "They're not quite as fresh as I'd like -- after all, it's
> afternoon in Europe now -- but the one I had was pretty good.  I got an
> assortment for you."
>
> She crossed the kitchen and indulged in a quick hug and kiss.  "Mmm,
> they smell great." She started to reach for the closest bag, but
> stopped, as the too-long sleeve of the robe flopped down past her
> fingertips.  "Let me get dressed."  She frowned, and sighed.  "I hope
> you don't mind me borrowing your clothes again, because I sure don't
> have anything clean to wear."
>
> He grinned.  "You do now.  I picked up two sets of clothes that should
> fit you.  They're in the bedroom."
>
> She beamed up at him.  "Have I ever told you you're my hero?"
>
> Clark chuckled at that, and kissed her again.  "Frequently.  But don't
> feel you have to stop."
>
> "Nothing is going to stop me, Clark; you should know that by now."
> Smiling serenely, she ducked into the bedroom and quickly dressed.  She
> ran her hands through her hair once more, but then gave up the attempt
> at hairstyling -- Clark obviously didn't have a curling iron or blow
> dryer.  Although, she grinned, he'd probably dry her hair with heat
> vision if she asked him.  Never mind.  She'd do fine with the natural
> look.
>
> She hastened back out to the kitchen and joined Clark at the table,
> devouring two croissants and a pastry in short order.  At Clark's
> enquiring glance, she mumbled defensively, "I was hungry.  Besides," she
> continued caustically, "I spent way too much time dieting and denying
> myself in my other body, and look where *that* got me."  Judging by the
> faintly alarmed look on Clark's face, he was picturing not only a young
> blond wife, but a young blond *fat* wife.  She grinned, then relented.
> "I'm going to take care of myself, Clark.  As soon as I get a moment,
> I'll get a checkup, cholesterol check, and all that stuff.  Heck, I
> don't even know what my blood type is now.  In the meantime, though, I
> just want to recover from the last few weeks."
>
> "What?"  He looked puzzled.  "I didn't mean -- I just want to make sure
> you're okay," he explained.  "But you're right; I thought you looked
> pretty worn out when you first showed up ... what was it, just yesterday
> morning?  Seems like so much longer than that, somehow."
>
> "Well, a lot's happened."  She sighed, and slumped back in her chair.
> "And there's still a lot to do."
>
> Clark moved his chair around to her side of the table and took her hand
> in a comforting grip.  "We can do it; together we can do anything."
>
> She smiled at him.  "I know.  And it won't get any easier by putting it
> off, worse luck.  So ... we have to decide what to do about work."
>
> "I've been thinking about that," Clark offered.  "We could leave
> Metropolis, and get jobs somewhere else.  Philadelphia, maybe; it's
> close enough that Superman wouldn't have to move the same time we did.
> You've lost your resume, unfortunately, but the Inquirer's been wanting
> to hire me for a while now, and I could probably slide you in as my
> partner."
>
> "That rag?"  She stared up at him in amazement.
>
> "What?  Oh, not the National Enquirer, Lois," he laughed.  "The
> Philadelphia Inquirer, which is a very respectable paper; they win
> Kerths and Pulitzers almost as often as the Planet."
>
> "Oh, right.  Well, I guess we could do that ... but I think I'd like to
> try talking to Perry, first."  She squeezed his hand.  "I know I can't
> just get my old life back ... everyone knows I'm dead.  And they're
> probably going to think *you're* on the rebound, to hook up with "Paula
> Bainbridge" so quickly.  But I want to talk to Perry, and Jimmy, and
> maybe one or two others, and try to convince them.  They deserve to
> know.  And maybe Perry'll hire me, as Paula, to be your partner."
>
> "Hmm ... it's worth a try.  It might be rough, at first; people might
> not like you trying to replace the great Lois Lane."
>
> She sighed.  "I know.  But heck, none of them really *liked* me anyway,
> back from when I was horrible to everyone.  If I'm nicer this time,
> maybe they'll forgive me.  And I know I can do the work, so that's not a
> problem."
>
> "Hey, hey, it was never that bad."  Clark reached out to give her a
> one-handed neck rub.  "A lot more people liked you than you think.  The
> turnout at your funeral was very impressive," he added with macabre
> cheer.
>
> She had to chuckle at that.  "Sorry I missed it."
>
> "It would have been a lot more fun with you there," he admitted, then
> firmly left the topic behind.  "Whether we go back to the Planet or
> somewhere else, I'm with you all the way.  And speaking of which ...
> It's going to be a long time before I feel comfortable letting you out
> of my sight, you know, so I was thinking...."  He paused.
>
> She tilted her head, gazing at him thoughtfully.  "Yes?"
>
> He smiled crookedly at her.  "Well, I was thinking we might as well get
> married as quickly as possible."
>
> Lois grinned at him.  "Now, that was a lovely proposal."
>
> "Hey, I did the down-on-one-knee thing and you turned me down flat!"
> Clark laughingly protested.
>
> "I didn't say no, I said not yet; get your facts straight, Kent, or I'll
> go to work for the Star and beat you out of next year's Kerths."
>
> "No, no, don't do that!  Perry would kill me -- and *I* haven't got any
> spare bodies lying around!"
>
> She rolled her eyes, enjoying the banter.  "Excuses, excuses.  But I'll
> take pity on you ... I'll marry you."
>
> "Married out of pity," he moaned, clutching his heart dramatically.
> "How can I stand it?"
>
> She lifted an eyebrow at his theatrics.  "Well, if you'd rather not--"
>
> "No, no," he interrupted, smoothing his face into a parody of
> seriousness, with just a hint of lechery thrown in.  "I'll take you any
> way I can get you."
>
> "Ah, that's the attitude I like to see," she grinned.  "So ... know
> anybody who could fly me to Las Vegas?  We could get a mariachi band, a
> few amiable passers-by ... I can see it now."  She pantomimed gesturing
> to unknown persons across the room.  "Hey, you, wanna come to a
> wedding?  Yeah, I'm a clone, and he's an alien; it should be fun!"
>
> Clark laughed.  "Obviously we were made for each other."
>
> "Yeah, we were..." she paused, watching him, feeling a wave of love
> towards him that almost choked her in its intensity.  He caught the
> look, and returned it.  She leaned forward, and he met her halfway for a
> long, sweet kiss.
>
> Clark eventually drew back, taking a deep breath and blinking.  "Well.
> Where were we?"
>
> She thought back for a moment.  "On our way to Vegas, I think.  If
> you're sure...?  It'll look awful for you to marry again this quickly,
> you know.  I saw some of the tabloid coverage..."  There had been some
> fairly lurid and horrible stories covering the Clark-Lois-Lex debacle.
>
> Clark shook his head firmly.  "Let them say what they want.  I know I'm
> not doing anything wrong, so the worst they can say is that I'm being an
> idiot.  Which is none of their business.  And there is nothing I'd like
> more," he reached over to cup her face with his hand, "than to marry
> you.  We can have a reception with our family and friends later, after
> we've told them about you, but I don't want to wait."
>
> She smiled helplessly, tilting her head into his palm, unable to argue
> this.  "Let's go, then."
>
> "Okay."  He spun into his Superman suit, and scooped her up.  "On the
> way, we can decide what sort of chapel we want.  Any preferences?"  He
> floated her over to the balcony, paused to lock the door behind him, and
> lifted off slowly.
>
> "No, not really, anything will do."  She broke into a sudden grin.  "As
> long as it's *not* Blue Suede Deliverance!"
>
> ***
>
> Late that night, Lois lay in bed cuddled next to her new husband,
> wearing nothing but a wedding ring and a pensive expression.  "Does this
> seem a little unreal to you?  I spent the last two weeks trying
> desperately to get here -- but I never really thought further than
> that.  So now ... it's like I've stepped off a cliff -- I don't know
> what's going to happen next, and it's making me feel very unsettled."
>
> His arms tightened around her as he murmured, "You know I'd never let
> you fall."
>
> "I know."  She fell silent for a moment, awash in contentment.  "It's
> very liberating, in a weird way.  I could leave my old life behind
> altogether, or pick and choose who to reconnect with ... like I've been
> reborn."
>
> "I'm glad you picked me." Clark murmured, kissing her hair.  "Who else
> are we going to tell?"
>
> "Well, Perry and Jimmy, at least," she replied, slowly.  She was not yet
> tired enough to sleep, but enough that her brain felt as if it were
> running in slow motion.  A very comfortable state indeed, after the past
> few weeks of necessary hyper-alertness.  "And we have to tell your
> parents -- I was thinking of telling them earlier, actually."  She
> turned her head to search for his face in the dim room.  "Can we fly out
> there tomorrow?"
>
> "I'm supposed to go back to work..." He chewed his lip, considering it.
> "But I don't have anything urgent waiting for me, and Perry keeps urging
> me to take 'time to heal,' so he wouldn't mind if I took a sick day."
>
> "You can play hookey, then," she concluded in satisfaction.  "You always
> said you wanted to."
>
> He laughed softly.  "Yeah, I guess I did.  But it's a lot more fun with
> a friend."  That called for a few friendly kisses.
>
> Clark laid back against the pillows, cuddling her close to his chest.
> "So, that's my parents ... how about yours?"
>
> Lois frowned, contemplating the unhappy state of her relationships with
> her family.  "I really don't want to."
>
> "I didn't figure you did," he stated neutrally.
>
> "You think I ought to, though, don't you?"
>
> "I'm not going to tell you what to do."  He hesitated, then continued,
> "I just don't want you to have any regrets, later."
>
> Lois sighed, and thought about her mother.  The most annoying,
> exasperating, crazy-making ... Ellen had made her life a misery as a
> teenager--having to deal with her mother's alcoholism had been fairly
> awful.  She was on the wagon now, thankfully, but still as neurotic as
> ever.
>
> "And then, too," Clark continued, "once you start keeping a secret from
> someone, you're stuck.  As time goes by, the secret gets harder and
> harder to tell."
>
> Lois grinned and turned to look at him.  "Speaking from personal
> experience, are we?"
>
> "Painful experience," he affirmed, grinning wryly.
>
> She acknowledged the truth of that with a noisy sigh.  "Okay, point
> taken.  I'll think about it."
>
> Clark hugged her.  "That's all I'm asking."
>
> ***
> to be continued :)
>
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> "Well, it just so happens that I am a former girlscout."
> "Good. Because I am a strange visitor from another planet."
> --Lois & Clark, "Ordinary People"
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> there were 32 auto deaths for every 100,000 autos,
> but only 16 firearm deaths for every 100,000 firearms.
> --Reason Magazine, Nov 99, pp46-47.
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Hi everyone!

Does anyone know in which episode Dr. Klein first appeared?  And after his
first appearance, which handful of eps followed that he was in?  Just wanted
to make sure I had my facts straight.  ;)

Erin  :)
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> Does anyone know in which episode Dr. Klein first appeared?  And after his
> first appearance, which handful of eps followed that he was in?  Just
wanted
> to make sure I had my facts straight.  ;)

Hi Erin!

I'm pretty sure it was 'Don't Tug on Superman's Cape' - just after
the Kryptonite was stolen.

Wendy

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>You need to head to the Round robin section. Here's the direct link:
>
>http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/rr_frame.html
>
>They are also listed under misha's fanfic site off my site:
>
>fly.to/superman.net
>
>Look under fanfic. However, Pam's site is more up to date than mine right
>now, so I would head there first :). I'm concentrating, right now, on
>establishing the Nfic. :)
>
>Enjoy!
>Anne :)

Thanks, I bookmarked it and will try to download next week!

Carolyn
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>> Perhaps thay are not labeled as "Unintentional Season"?
>
>Carolyn, the Unintentional Season is written by the Round Robin group,
>so you'll need to go to the Round Robin subpage to find them.  And that
>subpage is woefully out of date; I think I'm about four stories behind
>... I haven't updated it in way too long.  But it will get you the
>beginning of the season.
>
>And maybe I ought to mention the Unintentional Season on the main page,
>thanks for the hint! :)
>
>PJ

Hi PJ:)

Thank you for the further clarification:)

It makes sense, now that I remember some earlier posts on the subject.  I'm
looking forward to a few minutes next week to download them:)

About the hint, always glad to be of service<g>

Carolyn
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Just a couple of announcements :)

First, the S6 team is proud to announce a new feature on the website:
Propaganda Central!  This is a collection of all the episode "posters"
we've used over the past year (so the page does take a while to load).
I was able to find some of the posters that Alyssa had put together
before her disappearing act, and I had done some myself, but we couldn't
have put this all together without the creative assistance of James
Bishop, who designed the missing posters for us.  James, stand up and
take a bow! (he lurks on this list <g>)

So click on over to http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/Season6.html and
follow one of several links to the posters.  The posters do contain some
spoilers to the episodes, however, so if you're behind in your reading
and you don't want hints... be warned :)

Second: the nKerth Awards are tomorrow!  Yay!  Join us on Saturday 10/16
at 6pm EST (that's sometime Sunday morning in Oz) in #nKerthAwards to
see the ceremony, and #nKerthChat to giggle in the audience with all
your friends :)  If you're an nfic fan, we hope to see you there :)
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In a message dated 10/15/99 7:24:42 AM Central Daylight Time,
NKWolke@EIFEL-NET.NET writes:

<< LOL, Labrat!

 > Aw, don't worry about it, Jude. You ain't the first. ;) Such are the
hazards
 > of a non-gender-specific nick. Right, Zoom? <g>

 Okay, here I am, admitting that I thought our beloved Zoom-Mom was a guy! I
even
 read my first Zoom fanfiction and kept thinking: "Well, this is weird. He
really
 writes as if he was a woman." and never did the possibility cross my mind
that
 Zoomway could just be that, a woman! >>

I really have to get some tighter t-shirts :P I received one letter that
started out as "Congratulations, Mr. Zoomway, sir..."  Please, that's my
hubby ;)

Zoom
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Anything you say Pam <g>
I'd like to receive comments on the posters so I'll give you a list of the
ones I designed.
Strained Relations
For the Good of the Child
Bedtime Stories
Hypergirl
Turn Around
Mirror, Mirror
Movers and Shakers
The others were designed by Alyssa and Pam
It's now your turn to take a bow Pam :)
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Subject: Combo: S6 and nKerths

>Just a couple of announcements :)
>
>First, the S6 team is proud to announce a new feature on the website:
>Propaganda Central!  This is a collection of all the episode "posters"
>we've used over the past year (so the page does take a while to load).
>I was able to find some of the posters that Alyssa had put together
>before her disappearing act, and I had done some myself, but we couldn't
>have put this all together without the creative assistance of James
>Bishop, who designed the missing posters for us.  James, stand up and
>take a bow! (he lurks on this list <g>)
>
>So click on over to http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/Season6.html and
>follow one of several links to the posters.  The posters do contain some
>spoilers to the episodes, however, so if you're behind in your reading
>and you don't want hints... be warned :)
>
>Second: the nKerth Awards are tomorrow!  Yay!  Join us on Saturday 10/16
>at 6pm EST (that's sometime Sunday morning in Oz) in #nKerthAwards to
>see the ceremony, and #nKerthChat to giggle in the audience with all
>your friends :)  If you're an nfic fan, we hope to see you there :)
>--
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Pam Jernigan            |  jernigan@bellsouth.net
>ChiefPam on IRC         |
>-------------------------------------------------------
>"Well, it just so happens that I am a former girlscout."
>"Good. Because I am a strange visitor from another planet."
>--Lois & Clark, "Ordinary People"
>-------------------------------------------------------
>http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam
>
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Lois,

>Good to see you back.  I hope that you enjoyed Graceland with Alice, but
>did you get a bump on the head when you were there.  You know I don't write
>'puff' pieces and I certainly  don't intend to give Carlton any favours
>just because he happens to write my pay cheques.

Heck, I didn't get a bump on the head - I was just passing on the boss' own
words.  *I* know you don't write puff pieces.

>kidding, but keep taking those pava leaves that Clark told you about.  Did
>you know that their good for pregnant women too?...... Must tell my
>mother.....

Lois?  This doesn't mean what I think it means, does it?

>PS:  Now I might get to spend some more time with my husband.

Ha!  Now you know what Alice must feel like sometimes.  Although I'm sure
Clark paid you a whole lot more attention than I used to with Alice.
Talking of whom, I wonder if your mother is older or younger?
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Clark,
>
> > Are you trying to put your old editor out of a job?  I asked you to look
> > after the Planet while I was gone, not make it look like I'm ready to be
put
> > out to pasture!
>
> Huh? I only told people you'd gone on vacation... I'm sorry if I did
> something wrong.
>

Judas Priest, son, can't you recognise a back-handed compliment when you see
one?  Lighten up, Clark - life's too short to ignore the funny side.  What
you need is a vacation: when this is all over you should take Lois away for
a few days.  I can give you the name of a great little hotel just minutes
away from Graceland if you want.

>
> > Seriously, son, you did a fine job and I'm proud of you.  Only Lois
could
> > have done a better job (but don't tell her I said so).
>
> Thank you. Seriously, Chief, what do I have to do to be better than
> her?
>

That, oh, Temporary Editor, is for me to know and you to find out.

> I've done that story on the London rail crash. You'll have to
> acknowledge a couple of the British newspapers and the BBC news
> website in this one, since I used their Internet resources. I got
> our international office to clear the copyright first.

Well, that's fine, but just remember that there's no substitute for talking
to the horse's mouth.

> Sure. I'll ask him when I see him, but I think you can take it that
> he'll be 'around.' Be careful, Chief. Three people already got
> killed, and I wouldn't want to see it become four.
>
>

Heck, neither do I.  Alice and I still have a lot of catching up to do.
BTW, how old is Lois' mother?  I'm kinda worried about something.

Perry
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Ron,

I hope this reaches you, wherever you are.

I'll be at your boat in the marina tonight, 7.30pm - Superman will be with
me, so both of us will be 110% safe.

Perry
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Dear Colleagues,

It is with great sadness that I have to tell you that Lara Wells passed away
peacefully a couple of nights ago.

Lara was only with us for a short time, but in that brief time her bubbly
personality and enthusiasm touched us all, and I am sure that we will all
miss her a great deal.

As you all know, Lara was killed while investigating the Daily Planet
bombing: right to the end, she was doing her job the best way she knew how.
It will always be a source of deep regret to me that she felt unable to
confide in her superiors about her intentions that night: perhaps if we had
been able to organise security for her, things would have turned out
differently.  With this in mind, I would urge all of you to make sure you
take adequate precautions when carrying out dangerous assignments.  Three
Planet staff have already died: that is three people too many.

It's always especially sad when one so young loses their life.  Please join
with me in taking a few moments out of your daily routine as a silent
tribute to our friend and colleague, Lara Wells.

Sincerely,
Perry White
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Cat,

> Oh, & btw,  I'm pregnant . --- Just kidding, Chief <g>

Hell's teeth, woman!  Don't even joke about it.  What's the oldest a woman
can be and still have kids - any idea?

>Welcome back -- May
> the King be with you.
>

He sure is, Cat, God rest his soul.  Unlike my dentist, who wrote me another
crazy email about parallel universes - if I didn't know better, I'd swear
the guy was from another planet!

Perry

PS  Don't forget the Underhill boat story.
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Date:         Fri, 15 Oct 1999 16:42:44 EDT
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Dear Lois and Clark,

Thank Superman for his help with the van's ID number.  The car is (was)
owned
by AOK Car Rental.  It turns out that it was rented by a Sarah Davenport,
who
happens to be the corporate secretary in a personal investment corporation
owned by Donald MacDonald.  I have investigators on their way to have a
visit
with Ms.Davenport now.  Hopefully, this should just about do it.

                                        Henderson
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Pam, I know I'm behind everybody else, but I sat down and read your story
straight through, last night.  Most enjoyable.  Had a good pace, wouldn't
let me go until I finished.   I  always felt that the Asabi-clone-soul
shifting thing was a portent for the 4th season when Lex would return with a
new body but the same old aspirations.   I'm looking forward to your sequel.
Jude
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I look forward to seeing to you then.  Also, I do sincerely apologize for
leaving you stranded last week.  I think that my information will compensate
for your time and trouble.

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Date:         Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:00:21 EDT
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My dearest Carolyn,

I have lots of good news to share with you.  If only it could be shared in
person.  Phil was successful in saving Lara, and she is now in an alternate
universe.  (Do be careful, my love, about containing this information, as
Lara is believed to be dead here in Metropolis.)  His time machine worked!
And fortunately for Phil, subjective time turned out to be negligible.  His
recent adjustments to the amplitude of the stasis adaptivity sequencer
proved
to be precise.  Really, this is even a bit boggling for me.

On a more personal front, I have been thinking about you more and more, and
Carolyn, I want you here with me.  I would like you to become my wife and
partner in life.  I know your career is of utmost importance to you.  Today,
I have an appointment with the StarLabs headhunter.  I have heard that there
may be a new project that needs staffing.  I will find out what I can.
Until
then, please consider my proposal, my soulmate.  Life is too short to spend
grinding away in the lab with no one to share the moments with other than
the
lab rats.

                                    All my love,
                                        Bernie
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Hi FoLCs,

Just a reminder that the NKerth Awards will be tomorrow, Saturday October 16
at 6pm EST on #nkerth and #nkerthchat.  Hope to see you there!

Dawn
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In a message dated 10/14/99 2:35:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
judithwilliams@PRODIGY.NET writes:

<<  My only problem now is that I keep getting
 flashes of this tiny little bathtub full of soapy bubbles, wherein sits and
 wise and distinguished Rat wearing horn rims and a Scottish Tam, typing on
a
 laptop p.c. sitting on a work table lying across the tub in front of him.
>>

I'm pretty sure that the Rat is a "her."  But I love the image you have
conjured up.
She may use pencils and teeny tiny note pads, though.

Ann
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Judith wrote:
<<  My only problem now is that I keep getting
flashes of this tiny little bathtub full of soapy bubbles, wherein sits and
wise and distinguished Rat wearing horn rims and a Scottish Tam, typing on a
laptop p.c. sitting on a work table lying across the tub in front of him. >>

Judith, unless you meant ...lying across the tub, in front of him.  Meaning,
him as in Stuart (Spelling??), I think you meant her.  <g>

JOY:)

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Date:         Fri, 15 Oct 1999 17:35:17 -0500
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From:         Carolyn Schnall <cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU>
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My darling Bernie:

I'm blushing so much right now that my staff think I have walked under the
super-sun lamp upstairs!!!!!!

Your proposal was a lovely surprise, not that I didn't hope, nay, dream
that you would ask me one day.  I love you and I would be honored and
thrilled to be your wife!

In short...I ACCEPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My staff saw me do a little dance just now! I shall never live that down
but I don't care:)

On the practical side, I would be delighted to relocate to S.T.A.R. Labs,
if they want me.  Do you know if the project is along gene therapy lines?
I'm sure you have some influence there (hint, hint):)  However, I don't
want you to worry if it does not work out, dear, because there's Met U. and
there's New Troy State's downstate campus and there is also the medical
college.  I'm sure there are other options as well,  so relocating my lab
to Metropolis has got to be possible.  Naturally, I would prefer a tenured
position but I want to be with you, so I'm sure we will work it out:)
Wouldn't it be wonderful, my love,  to have adjacent lab benches?  Perhaps
together we can find a way to prolong the lives of clones!  I'd even put up
with the lab rat<g>

Lastly, I'm a so relieved that Lara has been saved.  I promise not to
mention it to anyone.  Phil's machine worked!!!!  I just knew it would:)
I'm also relieved because I was so worried about you.  When I didn't hear
back from you in several days, I got anxious and was on the point of
sending you a message when yours came through.  I knew you were down about
the clone not making it but this is good news.  BTW, dearest, I'm sure if
Phil's project was also your project, you would understand it as well as he
does:)  Please relay my congratulations.  He's a terrific fellow and I
think we owe him a great deal.

Oh, I do so wish were together right now:(  Are you going to be in the lab
this weekend?  I might just hop on a plane.......

LOVE,

Carolyn

XXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOO
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Pam wrote:

>Hey, don't feel bad ... when I first wrote e-mail to Chris Mulder, lo
>these many years ago, I was certain that she was a guy <g> which kinda
>worried me since I wanted to meet her in person ...  But then she
>mentioned her husband, I think, and that cleared that up <g>

Well, I can remember fairly recently someone (naming no names <G>) mailing
me to say that they were in the middle of a 'debate' with someone over
whether I was male or female and adding that they knew I'd referred at
various times on this list to Stuart (nice hubby type person), but that that
wasn't always evidence. <bg>

Strangely enough, in the case of Zoom, I had precisely the same experience
as Nicole. Read her fic long before I 'met' her. It only took three paras
before I realised my mistake though. Definitely a woman. Men can't write fic
that waffy. <g> Or so I thought at the time. Hey, what did I know? Back then
I hadn't gotten to Phil's fic yet. ;) Good thing I'd been disabused of the
notion by that point - otherwise I might have decided after reading those
that he was a Phyllis, myself.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk

PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS!

"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde

"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H.
L. Mencken myself.
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>Judith wrote:
><<  My only problem now is that I keep getting
>flashes of this tiny little bathtub full of soapy bubbles, wherein sits and
>wise and distinguished Rat wearing horn rims and a Scottish Tam, typing on
a
>laptop p.c. sitting on a work table lying across the tub in front of him.
>>
>
>Judith, unless you meant ...lying across the tub, in front of him.
Meaning,
>him as in Stuart (Spelling??), I think you meant her.  <g>
>
>JOY:)

Ssssshhhhhhh! That's supposed to be a secret! LabRats don't kiss and tell.
;)

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS!

"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde

"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H.
L. Mencken

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Ann wrote:
>
>I'm pretty sure that the Rat is a "her."  But I love the image you have
>conjured up.
>She may use pencils and teeny tiny note pads, though.
>
And I use Bernie's pc when the lab's quiet. ;) But I write my diary on
paper. Much more personal. And no chance of Bernie finding it in the hd.
Wouldn't do at all.

LabRat :)  (I was jilted? I'm moving to the States? Whatever.
Congratulations Bernie and Carolyn! Whoo! Whoo! That's my boy! I knew all
those years of studying rat breeding behaviour would give you the right
ideas eventually. Told ya they could be trained.)

Doc. Klein's LabRat
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PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS!

"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde

"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H.
L. Mencken

>
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Chris,
WOW!  Revelation and Resurrection, both so much better than what we  were
originally shown.  You gave this
so much understanding and feeling.  I just wanted to say, Thank You.

Brenda
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From:         Jenny Stosser <jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
Subject:      Fwd: Archivist Day (fwd)
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I was sent the following from a fandom list that occasionally has fanfic
list posted to it.  Have a think about it!

>Wait! Before you hit the Delete key, please read this.
>
>Have you ever complained about your archive not being updated on a regular
basis?  Or why nobody has fixed that bad link, or added the last part of
that story you've been dying to read to the archive?  Have you ever stopped
to consider the amount of time it takes to make those graphics that make the
>archive pages as good looking as they are? Or how much time it takes to
index those stories by author _and_ by title?
>
>The people who do all these jobs are the archivists. They are the ones who
spend inordinate amounts of time tracking down lost e-mail addresses,
updating pages, writing summaries, finding web space to host the site and
often paying for it out of their own pockets. They are the ones who deal
with all the complaints, while never complaining themselves. Why do they do
this?
>
>There are probably about as many answers to that as there are archives on
the web. Some do it because they like to, some because nobody else wanted
>the job. Some do it because they can't stand to see all these good stories
become lost in the void. What ever the reasons, they do it. Now ask
yourselves, if they didn't do it, would you?
>
>Here is what I'm proposing: November 1st is Archivist Day.  Send your
favorite archivist or list maintainer a couple of lines to say that you
appreciate their
>time and efforts, or even just two simple words: Thank You.
>
>Please pass this along to other FIC groups, or any list that has an
archive. And don't forget to thank your archivist on November 1st.
>
>(Note: This idea was Nic Leonoff's.  Great idea, Nic!)
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This is my second attempt at writing fanfiction. My first one was one that I
didn't really try very hard to write. But this is a story that I really
tried hard to write. It's the first part of a fanfiction that I can tell
will be very long. This is just the first chapter. This story is for Kelley,
Katharyn, Amber, and Becky my best friends and tolerators of and
participaters in my ranting about Lois and Clark.

Discoveries and Rebirths
by: Misty Ellison
supergirl511@hotmail.com

"J.C., we have to tell mom and dad about this now!" Lara Kent almost
screamed at her twin brother.

J.C., as usual, didn't feel any need to rush into anything. It was a trait
that annoyed Lara, and it was also a trait that she would never admit to
wanting.

"Lara, are you sure you want to do this now?" J.C. asked, with a certain
amount of trepidation in his voice.

"Yes!" Lara looked at her brother as if he'd just asked her if the earth was
round.

"Maybe this'll go away." By now, J.C was grasping at straws, straws that
were getting more slippery by the minute.

"Yeah, J.C. I'm sure that floating in mid-air and seeing through things is
just a temporary thing. Yeah, right! Just like it was for dad?"

J.C. gave his sister an exasperated look. "Lara, get over that will you? Mom
and dad told us that dad was Superman when we were thirteen. We're sixteen
now. It's been a while."

"What's your point? Or did you ever have one?"

J.C gave her his best 'Superman stare'.

Lara remained undaunted. She remarked, "You're not good at that."

J.C. started to back out of Lara's room."Listen, Lara, I've still got
economics to do. You know how Mr.Pierce is."

Lara was infuriated. "Excuses, excuses!" By now, J.C. had retreated to his
room. That wasn't going to stop Lara Elaine Kent.

She ran to J.C's room and just as she reached his bedroom, his door was
slammed in her face. "J.C., I'm not done talking to you yet! Lara yelled.

"Lara, stop yelling at your brother!" Lois yelled from the kitchen.

A minute later, J.C. began blasting R.E.M.'s 'I Am Superman' on his stereo.
"Very funny, J.C.!"

"Lara, I told you to stop yelling at your brother!"

"Sorry, mom!"

Clark Kent walked into the kitchen. "What was that all about?"

"Who knows? With those two, it's always something." Lois said, with a shrug.

Clark tuned his super-hearing upstairs. Then he grinned very widely.

"What?" Lois asked, thoroughly confused.

"J.C.'s playing 'I Am Superman'."

Now that the confusion had passed, Lois grinned just as wide as Clark had.
"Let it never be said that J.C. doesn't have a flair for irony."
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In a message dated 10/15/99 5:00:24 AM EST, Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK
writes:

<< Best not... remember, Lara is thought to have died, and they've got her
 (original) body to prove it. I doubt it would be a kindness to tell him
 that a) Lara is alive after all, but he'll never see her again, and b)
 he'll never see her again because she's fallen in love with Clark Kent
 (again?). And I have to wonder if Scardino is up to dealing with
 clones, time travel and parallel universes -- don't expect _me_ to
 explain it to him, anyway! <g> >>

Well like I said I am writing a fanfic about Lara.  Although my fanfic will
be the time up until she falls in love with the other Clark Kent.  <G>  I
want to make it hard for those two to get together.. just like it was from
Lois Lane and Clark Kent of *our* world.  I mean where's the fun in saying..
"Oh Clark.. I love you.." "Oh Lois ur Lara or whatever. i love you!"  That
would be boring.  What i might do is have Lara (Lois) and Alt-Clark visit
the
other Metropolis again, but only visit the people who really know what is
going on.  I guess Lara could visit Dan again and tell him.. i mean she will
never forget him and well Alt-Clark will always be in his debt ... well he
will also think highly of him because in a way he brought Lara to him and so
unlike the other Clark.. he won't find Dan annoying!  But like I said.. we
will just have to see but once I write it I will DEFINATELY send it to this
list! <G>

Okay that's enough babbling for now!  I have a day off from school.. so i
need to get back to writing my fanfic i started months ago..

Alexis ;-.)
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GOOD IDEA
merry
truitt22@flash.net
Jenny Stosser wrote:

> I was sent the following from a fandom list that occasionally has fanfic
> list posted to it.  Have a think about it!
>
> >Wait! Before you hit the Delete key, please read this.
> >
> >Have you ever complained about your archive not being updated on a
regular
> basis?  Or why nobody has fixed that bad link, or added the last part of
> that story you've been dying to read to the archive?  Have you ever
stopped
> to consider the amount of time it takes to make those graphics that make
the
> >archive pages as good looking as they are? Or how much time it takes to
> index those stories by author _and_ by title?
> >
> >The people who do all these jobs are the archivists. They are the ones
who
> spend inordinate amounts of time tracking down lost e-mail addresses,
> updating pages, writing summaries, finding web space to host the site and
> often paying for it out of their own pockets. They are the ones who deal
> with all the complaints, while never complaining themselves. Why do they
do
> this?
> >
> >There are probably about as many answers to that as there are archives on
> the web. Some do it because they like to, some because nobody else wanted
> >the job. Some do it because they can't stand to see all these good
stories
> become lost in the void. What ever the reasons, they do it. Now ask
> yourselves, if they didn't do it, would you?
> >
> >Here is what I'm proposing: November 1st is Archivist Day.  Send your
> favorite archivist or list maintainer a couple of lines to say that you
> appreciate their
> >time and efforts, or even just two simple words: Thank You.
> >
> >Please pass this along to other FIC groups, or any list that has an
> archive. And don't forget to thank your archivist on November 1st.
> >
> >(Note: This idea was Nic Leonoff's.  Great idea, Nic!)
> jenerator@ozemail.com.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn
> (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318
> Photos of David (7) and Megan (4) on the Stosser Family HomePage:
> http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583  Please sign our guestbook!
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Ms
Miss
Mrs.
Dr.
YO
All of the above
None of the above
(pick one)                        Rat:
This problem I have of determining rodent gender is a long standing one.  It
all began when my children kept gerbils in a cage.  I was very confused.  I
always seemed to be discovering the gerbils'  gender after they did, which
produced proliferating consequences.  I thought I had solved the problem by
persuading the kiddoes  that a single hamster was much more cuddly and
receptive to their attentions than a pair of twitching gerbils interested
only in each other.  However here  my problem is again.  My comfort level is
up a little now that I'm no longer peeping at a male in a bathtub.  You'll
be happy to know that, thanks to Zoom, you're now wearing a "tighter T.
shirt"   Jude.
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While we are on this thread, can someone please answer me this.  Is
Plan9lives a man or a woman? Every time I leave a message about "On the
Run" on the message boards, I have to do some sidestepping to avoid
personal pronouns. Somehow I never had this confusion with Zoom and
Labrat. (Zoom's picture on her website is a dead giveaway!)

TerriAnn

>Hey, don't feel bad ... when I first wrote e-mail to Chris Mulder, lo
>these many years ago, I was certain that she was a guy <g> which kinda
>worried me since I wanted to meet her in person ...  But then she
>mentioned her husband, I think, and that cleared that up <g>

Well, I can remember fairly recently someone (naming no names <G>)
mailing
me to say that they were in the middle of a 'debate' with someone over
whether I was male or female and adding that they knew I'd referred at
various times on this list to Stuart (nice hubby type person), but that
that
wasn't always evidence. <bg>

Strangely enough, in the case of Zoom, I had precisely the same
experience
as Nicole. Read her fic long before I 'met' her. It only took three
paras
before I realised my mistake though. Definitely a woman. Men can't
write fic
that waffy. <g> Or so I thought at the time. Hey, what did I know? Back
then
I hadn't gotten to Phil's fic yet. ;) Good thing I'd been disabused of
the
notion by that point - otherwise I might have decided after reading
those
that he was a Phyllis, myself.

LabRat :)

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This was very cute.  It was a great way to start the day-- with a chuckle.
Very nicely put together.   I love the ending.

Ann
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TITLE: Being Lois Lane
PART: 2/3
AUTHOR: Pam Jernigan (jernigan@bellsouth.net)
RATING: PG
FEEDBACK: Any and all kinds accepted, in public or private.  I'm still
working on this, so I'll take any helpful comments.
SUMMARY: This is a sequel to "Just Like That...?".  Lois has convinced
Clark that it's her in the clone body, but now they face the task of
convincing others.

***

"Okay, honey, we'll be expecting you.  Love you!"  Martha smiled as her
son said goodbye.  She hung up the phone and turned to her husband.
"That was Clark," she reported.  "He's coming to visit this morning, he
said."

"Good," Jonathan said, taking another sip of coffee.  "He's been working
much too hard lately, especially as Superman."

"Well, he sounds much better," she replied, sitting at the table and
watching Jonathan finish his breakfast.  "Not so lost -- almost
cheerful."

"Good," Jonathan said again.  "But I hardly saw any sight of Superman
yesterday.  The newsgroup usually picks up his major appearances, but
nothing yesterday.  Well, there was one possible sighting in Nevada, but
it was unconfirmed."

"When did you have time to read the newsgroups?" Martha asked, amused by
her husband's cyber-savvy.

"Checked it this morning right after downloading the current beef
prices."

"Ah, I see.  I'll take a look after breakfast, then."  Her amusement
faded away as she turned to a more worrisome topic.  "I wonder what made
him sound so cheerful, though."

Jonathan looked up.  "Why does it matter?  Isn't it a good thing?  He
was so torn up after Lois -- well, I didn't think I'd ever see him smile
again."

"Of course I want him to be happy again, Jonathan," she snapped,
restlessly twisting the edge of the tablecloth.  "But don't you think
it's too soon?  She's only been gone for six weeks!"

"Martha, now, don't fret yourself," he soothed, standing and moving
behind her to rub her neck.  "I'm sure Clark knows what he's doing.
He's a sensible boy, and he's old enough to handle himself."

She sighed, relaxing into the neck rub.  "I know.  I just wonder, is
all."

"Well, we'll find out soon enough," Jonathan pointed out prosaically.
"But I've got to go let the cows out to pasture.  I'll be back in an
hour."

He kissed her goodbye and made his way out the door, leaving her in the
kitchen with her thoughts.  The loss of Lois had devastated her son, she
knew, and while she was glad he was sounding better, she was consumed
with curiosity as to the cause of his improvement.  Grief took time, and
six weeks seemed hardly enough.  Not that she wanted him to suffer, of
course, but if he tried to ignore his feelings, it would only come back
to hurt him even more, later.  "Well, no point sitting around stewing
about it," she spoke aloud.  She stood, suiting actions to words, and
started busying herself with her normal household chores.

***

Lois woke up to the smell of French toast and black coffee.  She smiled,
contemplating her newly married state.  Would it be strange to face him
now, in the daylight?  Only one way to find out.  With butterflies in
her stomach, she slipped on some clothes, and emerged into the kitchen,
where Clark had breakfast nearly completed.  "Morning, husband."

He smiled at her over his shoulder as he flipped the last piece of
toast.  "Morning, wife.  You looked so cute, sleeping in my bed, that I
didn't have the heart to wake you."

She smiled back as the butterflies evaporated, and walked over to
embrace him from behind; he turned his head for a brief kiss.  He was
still Clark, and all was right with her world.  "Enjoy it while you can;
I'm usually up at dawn.  But I guess I was still tired."

"And probably still malnourished," he added, finishing with the stove.
She reluctantly let him go and followed him over to the table.  "So I
made you a big breakfast."

"Have I mentioned that I love you?"  She kissed him, hard, to prove it.

He returned the kiss with enthusiasm, smiling warmly at her as they
disengaged.  "Not since yesterday.  But the evidence yesterday was
pretty convincing."

She giggled.  "Hey, when I do something, I don't kid around."

"Too true.  Well, I called Perry this morning, and told him I wouldn't
be in today.  Then I called my folks, and told them to expect me."

She glanced up at him.  "Did you mention me at all?"

He shrugged helplessly.  "I didn't know what to say."

She nodded rueful agreement.  "I don't even know what I'll say when I
see them."

"We'll think of something.  Just think positive."

"Right.  Think positive.  I can do that."  She finished her breakfast
with swift efficiency.  "So, when do we go?"

A rush of wind filled the kitchen, and when it subsided, she saw that
all the dishes were put away, the stove and counters cleaned, and Clark
was in his red-and-blue travelling outfit.  "Anytime you're ready."

She stood.  "Let's go then."

****

Martha had just finished unloading the dishwasher when movement in the
front yard caught her eye.  She glanced out the window and saw her son
-- still in his Superman outfit -- and an unfamiliar blond woman.
Martha frowned.  Who was this?  And why on Earth would Clark endanger
his secret identity by bringing her here, where Superman had no reason
to visit?  She watched them for a moment.  Perhaps Superman would soon
fly off, and Clark would come walking downstairs.  In that case, she'd
have to pretend that he'd been here already, though for how long she
didn't know.  She wished that Clark would have told her what her lines
should be.

Superman showed no signs of leaving, however.  In fact, if she read
their body language correctly, he seemed to be on very intimate terms
with this strange woman, who was fidgeting nervously -- they were
standing close together, and he was leaning in close to speak softly in
her ear.  And now he was holding her hand!  How could he even *think* of
another woman this soon after Lois' death!  Martha frowned.  Time to
sort this out.

Putting on a polite expression, she opened the screen door and stepped
out onto the porch.  "Superman, hello."

They looked up at that, and the woman quickly -- guiltily -- pulled her
hand away from Clark's.  "Hi, Martha," she responded, sounding awkward
and unsure.

"Hello," Martha replied, looking back and forth between them, and
finally staring at her son, willing him to explain himself.  "What are
you doing here, Superman?" she prompted.

Clark looked down at his outfit in surprise, as if he'd forgotten he was
wearing it.  "Oh, right, sorry," he muttered, then spun into a
whirlwind.  When he reappeared from the blur, he was wearing casual
Clark clothes, and Martha felt her eyes go wide in horror, staring at
the young woman to see what her reaction would be.

The woman didn't seem surprised, but that only made it worse.  Then she
looked over and caught Martha's gaze on her.  "Oh, it's okay, Martha,"
she offered, holding out a placating hand.  "He just wasn't thinking."
She turned to Clark and scolded, "Clark, you'll give your poor mother a
heart attack!"

He looked over and blushed, realizing what he'd done.  "Oh, sorry, Mom,
I forgot that you don't know--"

"Don't know what?' she demanded, both alarmed and annoyed at her son's
inexplicable behavior.  And this blond thing seemed to know far too
much.  She glared at them both in turn.  "Would one of you please tell
me what's going on?"

"That's why we came here, Mom," Clark said.  "Why don't you and--" he
stopped himself, gesturing to his friend, "you two go on inside, and
I'll get Dad."  He pulled down his glasses and scanned the fields.

"Your father's putting the cows out to pasture," Martha informed him,
feeling a sense of disastrous inevitability about the whole morning.
"Come on in, then, Miss--?"

The blond started at that request, and looked quickly towards Clark,
asking some sort of silent question.  He shook his head no, and added
aloud.  "Not just yet."

"Okay," the blond replied, somewhat reluctantly, then turned back to
Martha.  "Call me Paula."

Martha gestured for Paula to enter the house, rolling her eyes at this
crack-brained conversation.  How could someone not even know their own
name?

"Won't you please have a seat, Paula?"  Martha's question died away as
she saw that the woman had already made herself at home at the kitchen
table, instead of the more formal living room that Martha had had in
mind.  "Can I get you a drink?" she asked, out of habit.

Paula smiled nervously.  "Ice water would be great, thank you."  She
hesitated, picking at the edge of the tablecloth, then continued.  "I'm
sorry we startled you today.  It's just that Clark didn't know how to
even approach the topic over the phone; we thought it'd be best to do it
in person."

Martha poured her guest a glass of water.  "You needn't apologize for
him," she commented, aware that it came out sounding rather curt.  She
admitted she was feeling more than a bit hostile towards Paula, and she
wasn't even quite sure why.  Except that she was starting to fear that
Clark had fallen for this .. this ... teenager!  It was a betrayal of
Lois, and it could not possibly be healthy.  For either of them.

She seated herself, and looked up to see Paula watching her.

"I know what you're thinking," she said quietly.  "But I'm not what, or
who, you think I am."

Martha bit back an ugly retort, struggling to hold her temper.  If this
was Clark's decision, she'd have to respect it.  And stay in contact
with him, so that if -- when -- it went horribly wrong, she could help
him pick up the pieces.  Again.  "All I ever wanted was for him to be
happy," she finally managed.

For some reason, that elicited a glimmer of a smile from across the
table.  "Yeah, I remember him telling me that, last fall."

Martha raised an eyebrow, wondering what that meant, but was heartened
to hear that Clark had, after all, known this woman for more than a few
days.  Maybe this wasn't as impossible as it seemed.

Her thoughts were interrupted by the arrival of her son and husband, who
arranged themselves around the table.  "All right, son," Jonathan said,
with a curious glance at Paula, "you wanna tell me what's going on
here?"

Clark and his friend exchanged glances, then both broke into speech.

"She's not really Paula--"

"--I'm really Lois Lane.  And I know I don't look like Lois--"

"--but that's because Lex Luthor cloned her.  Remember how someone
cloned me, two years ago?"

"We don't know if that was Lex, but it probably was, and he had this
servant, Asabi--"

"--who could do *soul* transfers -- weird, huh, and anyway--"

"--he transferred my mind, my soul, into this new body, but it's really
me."

They trailed to a stop, looking at her and Jonathan imploringly.  "Mom,
Dad," Clark tried again, "this is Lois, *my* Lois.  I didn't believe her
at first, but part of me always knew."

Martha shook her head in bewilderment, looking to her husband for
support.  He was frowning in concentration.  "Do you think you could run
that by me again?  Slowly?  Not leaving anything out?"

Clark started from the beginning, much more coherently this time.
Occasionally, Lois would add in her perspective or commentary, until
they had the complete picture.  Martha sat back in her chair, stunned by
the weight of revelation.

"Oh, my lord," Jonathan said, with a note of wonder in his voice.
"Lois?"

Martha looked at her pragmatic husband in surprise.  She could barely
make sense of it all, but he seemed to be taking it in stride.

The woman across the table looked at Jonathan and nodded.  "Yeah -- it's
me.  We're trying to get our lives back ... and I know how important you
guys are to Clark's life."  She laughed briefly.  "Not to mention to
mine."  She looked at Martha.  "How about you, Martha?  Can you accept
this?  We can give you time, if you need it..."

Martha just shook her head helplessly, and glanced at her son, who was
silently pleading his case, then looked at her husband again.  Her head
was spinning from all this talk of clones and soul transfers, but
Jonathan ... well, of course.  Jonathan wouldn't be bothered by the
things he didn't understand, as long as there was something he did.  He
knew Clark -- and so did she.  The thought steadied her.  And if Clark
believed this ...  "Well, honey," her hands fluttered briefly, before
she brought them back down on the table.  "I guess it's not the
strangest thing I've ever encountered!"

***

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TITLE: EMOTIONAL CORNERS

PART: 1/5

AUTHOR: An IRC Round Robin by:
ChrisM(mulders@mindspring.com); Eraygun(Eraygun@aol.com);
Melisma(dlgray@usa.net); Wendymr(w.m.Richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk);
zoomway (zoomway@aol.com); chrispat(cp13607@aol.com);
Misha(mhall@sound.net);
athene()

RATING: PG-13

FEEDBACK: All comments public and private are welcome, but please no public
editing.

SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Amid preparations for
the
upcomming Merriwether Awards, Lois comes down with a bad cold and has to
stay
at home and rest. Clark gets a *super* workout as he tries to preserve his
secret as well as Lois's sanity when Ellen Lane decides to give her 'baby
girl' a little TLC.
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[ChrisM]

Lois Lane wasn't a woman who normally gave into self-pity, but being
pregnant, *with* twins, *in* August, *and* having a bad cold had put a
strain
on even her endurance.  Clark Kent knew all about his wife's resilient
nature, but he could tell this cold was really getting her down.

"Are you sure you don't want me to stay home with you today, honey?" he
asked
solicitously.

"I'm sure," she told him.  "Besides," she added, sniffing, "if you stick
around here with that sad face all day long, I'll probably start crying, and
a woman with a cold shouldn't be crying."

Clark had to smile at another example of Lois-logic.  "Okay, but I'll be
calling you often, and coming by to check on you even oftener."

Grateful for his concern she reached up from the bed for a good-bye hug.
Clark was more than happy to lean down and oblige her.

"One good thing," she murmured against his shirt, "I don't have to worry
about you catching this, so we can make out all we want to."

Clark chuckled and hugged her a little tighter.  "That's my girl.  Always
looking on the bright side."  He pulled out of the hug just enough so she
could see him wink.  "Wanna neck?"  Things were about to get interesting,
but
the doorbell rang.

"If that's Jimmy, I'll--" Lois muttered.

Clark was checking out their visitor with his x-ray vision.  "I wish it was
Jimmy, actually," he said, then turned to Lois with an apologetic look.
"It's your mother."

"What did I ever do that was terrible enough to deserve this?" Lois moaned.

"Maybe she just wants to see how you're doing," Clark tried to reassure her,
as the doorbell rang again.  Lois sent him a "yeah, right!" look and told
him
to go answer the doorbell before her mother pushed it through the wall.

Clark was downstairs before Lois could finish her sentence, which gave him
time to take a deep breath and prepare for Hurricane Ellen.

He opened the door, a big smile plastered on his face. "Hi, Ellen.  It's
nice
to--"

"Oh, there you are!  I thought you were never going to answer the door!"

"Well, I was--"

"Where's my poor baby girl?"

"Lois?  She's up--"

"Upstairs?  I'll go right up."

Clark tried to run interference for his wife, but Ellen was not to be
denied.
 "Ellen, I think she just wants to rest."

"Of course she does.  That's why I'm here."

Clark rolled his eyes, feeling more helpless than any superhero ought to. "I
know you want to help, Ellen, but really she--"

"She'll feel much better knowing that her mother is here to take care of
her.
 I'll just go on up and see if she needs some hot tea or a back rub or
something."

Ellen was starting up the stairs, so Clark zipped through the dining room
into the kitchen and took the back stairs.  When she got to the landing, he
was ahead of her.

"How did you-"

"I've been jogging more," Clark hastily explained.  "Look, Ellen, we--"

"Jogging?  Instead of staying here and taking care of your wife?  It's a
good
thing I came over."

Clark sighed.  Was she *ever* going to let him finish a sentence?

Ellen looked at him with an air of discovery.  "Don't you have a job to go
to?  Well, go!  We girls will be all right by ourselves."

Clark knew when he was beaten.  "All right, but just let me say good-bye to
Lois."

"Don't get too close.  You don't want to catch it."

Clark sighed again, more heavily this time, because her words had reminded
him of what he and Lois had been about to do before Ellen arrived.

They had to say good-bye under Ellen watchful eye, which put a crimp on the
proceedings to say the least. Clark could hardly bear the pleading look on
Lois' face, but there was little he could do ... short of throwing his
mother-in-law bodily out the door.  Not that that idea didn't have its
charms, but ...

"I'll come home soon to check on you, sweetheart," he promised.

The two women waited in silence as Clark went downstairs.  They heard the
front door shut behind him, and then Ellen beamed at Lois, "Isn't this nice?
Just the two of us."

[Eraygun]

Lois gave Ellen a look that would have sent her co-workers at the Planet
running for cover. Ellen didn't even flinch.

"Mother, what are you *doing* here?"

"Why. I'm taking care of you, sweetie," Ellen replied affably as she moved
to
the side of the bed and began rummaging through the drawer of the night
stand.

"What!? Mother I don't need a nurse. And what are you-"  Lois' tirade was
cutoff as Ellen quickly plopped the thermometer she'd found in the night
stand into Lois' mouth. Lois glared again.

"Now, sweetie, you know I have to check to see if you have a fever. I always
did that when you were little."

"Motheerr, I-"

"Now, now, no talking."

Ellen began to busy herself plumping the pillows behind Lois and removing
the
magazines and books from the bed.

"Honestly I can't believe how messy this room is. I always thought Clark was
much neater."

Lois rolled her eyes and pointed at the thermometer.

"Oh, right, dear, let me take that out of your mouth. There, that wasn't so
bad, was it?"

"No comment," Lois mumbled.

"What, dear?"

"Never mind, Mother. What does it say?"

"Just as I expected. You have a fever."

"What?! What's the reading?"

"It's 100 and normal is 98.6."

"Mother, I'm pregnant, it's August, and we're in the middle of a heat wave."

"You never can be too careful."

[Melisma]

Lois rolled her eyes, but decided not to argue the point. After all, her
mother wasn't likely to let herself be out-argued by a patient. Or at least
someone she considered a patient. The training she had received as a nurse
would be hard to overcome.

"I don't suppose you were sick during a heatwave while you were pregnant
with
Lucy or me, were you?" she asked after a minute. She would really rather
have
been able to sit and miss her husband in peace, but since her mother was
there, she might as well *try* to be civil, even if she felt like a zoo
elephant with peanuts stuffed up its trunk stuck in a paddock permanently in
the sun with no shade to retreat to...

"We-e-ell," Ellen said thoughtfully, "I see your point. Let me run mix you
up
some lemonade..." And she danced out the door before Lois could respond.

*   *   *

Clark parked the jeep in front of the Planet a short while later, wishing
that he had been able to ditch it en route in case he had to run off and be
Superman - or play hooky and visit his wife. He had wanted to fly to work
today for just that reason, but hadn't been able to slip away to change
after
Ellen had shown up.

[Wendymr]

Clark had been accosted by Eduardo Friez as soon as he'd arrived at the
Planet.

"Hey, Clark, the Chief's been wondering where you were! He needs a report on
that jail riot for the evening edition and - "

"Thanks, Eduardo. I'll talk to him about it." Clark didn't want to be rude,
but he was anxious about Lois and he'd been hoping just to show his face
briefly in the newsroom before ducking out for a swift flyby to make sure
that she hadn't strangled his mother-in-law.

He duly reported to the editor's office, informing Perry that Lois was
recovering at home.

"And you didn't stay to look after her?" Perry enquired, an amused grin
hovering on his face. He was well aware of Clark's tendency to fuss over his
very pregnant wife.

"Um... well, Ellen arrived, so...." Clark explained, his expression saying
far more than his words revealed.

"What in the Sam Hill were you thinking of, Clark! You left Lois alone with
her mother?" Perry grinned broadly. "I see - you *wanted* an excuse to
leave?"

"Um... no...." Clark replied, in a tone which his wife would have instantly
recognized as being not entirely truthful. Deciding that this was a topic of
discussion he didn't really want to continue, he changed the subject. "You
want me to cover that riot?"

"Well, sure, Clark. After all, I guess a horde of rampaging prisoners can't
be any worse than your wife and her mother when they get started!" Perry's
grin grew even wider.

Clark raised his eyebrows, but commented smoothly that his mother-in-law was
a very caring, thoughtful woman and that Lois was no doubt grateful for her
company. Promising to submit his story in time for the evening edition, he
uncrossed the first two fingers of his right hand and exited Perry's office.

Having done some preliminary research and identified a prison officer who'd
agreed to be interviewed, Clark prepared to leave the Planet. With a skill
born of long practice, he neatly declined Jimmy's offer to tag along. He had
no intention of going straight to the prison. Superman had a little job to
do
first, which just might involve preventing World War III from breaking out
in
his own home.

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SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Amid preparations for
the
upcomming Merriwether Awards, Lois comes down with a bad cold and has to
stay
at home and rest. Clark gets a *super* workout as he tries to preserve his
secret as well as Lois's sanity when Ellen Lane decides to give her 'baby
girl' a little TLC.
_______________________
[zoomway]

*   *   *

Lois put a fist in the small of her back and straightened with a groan.
"Clark, you're going to have to finish tying your bow tie. I have to bend so
far forward to keep the Dynamic Duo out of the way, I feel like I'm wearing
a
saddle, and Orson Welles is the cowboy."

Clark laughed. "That's okay, honey, I could always tie my own ties. I just
*preferred* having you do them," he said as he gave a last tug on both
sides.

"Besides," Lois said, "that's what I was doing for Leslie when he made that
pass at me."

Clark's smile vanished. He turned away from the mirror. "You never did tell
me exactly *how* Leslie made a pass at you."

Lois sighed, took Clark's hand, and touched her hair with it. "That, Clark.
That was it."

Clark's smile returned. "I guess I shouldn't be jealous of that, but," he
said, lacing his fingers through her hair, "I am."

"Good," Lois replied and kissed him. "I feel insecure when I'm the same
shape
as the Daily Planet globe."

"Ah," Clark shrugged. "I told you that was the most beautiful sight I'd ever
seen."

She pushed him away playfully. "I remember you said that just before you
told
me you had lied about loving me."

Clark dug a finger under his suddenly tight collar. "I had my fingers
crossed."

Lois impetuously snapped his suspenders. "Do you realize if you hadn't lied
back then, we'd already have these babies in pre-school and I wouldn't have
to wear a tent to the banquet?"

Clark grabbed his jacket. "I have a feeling you'd be pregnant again, anyway,
so it wouldn't make any difference."

"Really?" she asked. "How long can you hold your breath... ah, skip it,
never
mind. I found that out in the bathtub."

*   *   *

"August 27, 1999 -- The Committee for the Joshua P. Merriwether Awards for
Journalistic Excellence Welcomes You to Its 77th Annual Dinner and Awards
Ceremony."

The large placard on an easel in the lobby of Metropolis' finest hotel was
nearly obscured by a small group of well-dressed Daily Planet employees.

When the nominations had come in and Planet reporters, as usual, were on the
list, Perry had distributed the extra tickets allotted to the paper on the
condition that the attendees look sharp and show how proud the Daily Planet
was of the honor. Now, he and Alice stood arm-in-arm at the edge of the
group, smiling at the chattering group and each other. Jimmy hovered nearby,
looking surprisingly elegant in black tie.

With a glance at his watch, Perry raised his voice slightly. "Okay, people,
looks like Lois and Clark are running late, so let's head on down to the
banquet room. We can wait for them there. Jimmy, get your camera ready ...
you can take some pictures of us." He turned to his wife, and his face
softened. "You can start with Alice ... I want a shot of how beautiful she
looks tonight."

Jimmy nodded and the group followed Perry down the wide hall to the large
double doors of the Apricot Ballroom.

*   *   *

Standing with the Whites outside the banquet hall, Jimmy smiled to himself
as
he pretended to make adjustments on his camera. He'd always seen Perry as a
father, and it was nice that he was so happy again, but Alice and Perry did
bill and coo ...a *lot* ... these days, so Jimmy chronically had to find
something else to look at.

It was strange though, Jimmy thought. With Lois and Clark he had to admit he
*liked* "catching them in the act". Maybe it was because he once had quite a
crush on Lois...

"Jimmy," Perry said, nodding to the couple coming toward them and thankfully
derailing Jimmy's train of thought. "Get a picture of the doctors. Lois and
Clark invited them to sit at our table."

[WendyMR]

"Hiya, Dr. Klein, Dr. Friskin," Jimmy called. "Great to see you here."

"It's nice to be here, Jimmy," Ruth Friskin replied. "We wanted to come and
cheer Lois and Clark."

"Yeah, I think they have a great chance of winning," Perry observed proudly.
"Their series on Morgan Edge was one of the best I've seen in a long time."

"So where are the two of them?" Bernard Klein asked, frowning. "They *are*
coming, aren't they? They wouldn't be late to an important event like this,
would they?"

"Not if they know what's good for them," growled their editor.

[Misha]

Alice led the group into the banquet room, and bestowed a wink and a roll of
her eyes on Jimmy. Jimmy hid his amusement over Perry's muttered
imprecations
with his camera, snapping shots of the last trickle of award nominees.

"Say, Perry, how much longer do you think Lois will be at work? Wasn't Alice
saying something about time off for the baby?"

Perry shrugged and scanned the crowd. "Clark's been worried, but I haven't
heard a peep out of Lois. I wouldn't be surprised if she tried to drag her
keyboard into the delivery room."

"I may be dedicated, Perry, but I'm not crazy," Lois announced from behind
them. She smiled up at her husband behind her. "Besides, Clark wouldn't let
me."

Perry's expression lightened. "Well, you can take however much time you'd
like later. Right now, you've got a Merriwether to win."

Lois grinned. "See, Clark, I'm not the only one who thinks we're the best."

"He's our editor, Lois, he's supposed to."

Perry snorted. "Only at awards time, kids. Let's find our table."

As Clark was pulling out her chair just moments later, Lois was struck by
Perry's earlier words. She really didn't want to drag her keyboard into the
delivery room with her. She was creating a family with Clark, and she wanted
that to be separate. Her children, and their birth, didn't have anything to
do with the rise and fall of corporate empires, or unveiling the greed and
corruption of local politicians. Or even the celebration of life in
Metropolis. It was time to celebrate her own family, to give something to
her
children, and to Clark, that was uniquely theirs.

[Melisma]

Clark noticed the slight frown on Lois' face. "Honey, are you okay?"

She smiled at him reassuringly, her expression clearing. "Yeah, just
thinking
about work and the baby and ..." Just then the band began to play background
music. "They must have read my mind." Lois laughed, then began to sing
softly
along with the music. "Love changes everyone ... live or perish ... in its
flame ...love will never ... never let you ...be the same."

[Eraygun]

It wasn't the perfect moment she'd been waiting for, but ... Lois took a
breath and turned to face him directly. "You know, Clark, I've been
thinking..."

"What about, honey?"

"Well, that maybe after the babies are born, I might..."

Before Lois could finish her sentence a high pitched voice called out from
across the room, "Yoo-hoo! Lois and Clark!"

"Oh good lord, what is *she* doing here?" Lois asked as Mindy Church made
her
way to their table.

Clark shrugged. "Maybe it has something to do with the fact she owns
Newstime
magazine. Aren't they up for a couple of awards? And with their managing
editor cooling his heels on Stryker's Island she may be filling in."

"If there was any justice the only thing she'd be filling would be a cell
next to Morgan Edge," Lois replied through gritted teeth.

"I'm so happy to see you both!" Mindy bubbled. "It's so good to see friendly
faces. I thought Pookie and I would be here all alone. Isn't that right,
sweetie?" Mindy said to little dog she was cradling in her arms.

"Nice to see she has something here that she can carry on a conversation
with," Lois whispered in a voice only Clark could hear.

"Is something the matter?"

"No, not at all, Mrs. Church, it's just that Lois is, er... well, she..."

"I'm just feeling a little dizzy," Lois interjected. "I think I need some
fresh air. Could we go outside on the patio for a little bit, darling?"

Clark grinned. "Of course, sweetheart. You'll excuse us, won't you?"

[chrispat]

Mindy pouted. "I suppose so."

Clark helped Lois up and put his arm around her waist. "You're milking this
pregnancy for all it's worth," he whispered in her ear with a grin.

Lois chuckled softly. "You better believe it."

As they walked away from the table, they could hear Mindy exclaiming in her
breathless voice, "Oh! Are you Dr. Klein? I've seen your picture. I do love
a
bald man."

Lois looked over her shoulder and saw Dr. Klein turning a bright pink as
Ruth
glared daggers at Mindy.

Lois and Clark made their way to the open patio doors. The heat wave was
over
and it was a beautiful August evening. They stood together for a moment
looking up at the stars.

Lois sighed and leaned against Clark who tightened his arms around her.

"What were you starting to tell me when we got interrupted, honey?"

Lois looked up at him. "I know this isn't the best time or place to be
discussing this, but well, I've been thinking."

"I know. You said that." Clark chuckled. "Should I be scared?"

Continued in part 5/5
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SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Amid preparations for
the
upcomming Merriwether Awards, Lois comes down with a bad cold and has to
stay
at home and rest. Clark gets a *super* workout as he tries to preserve his
secret as well as Lois's sanity when Ellen Lane decides to give her 'baby
girl' a little TLC.
_______________________

[Eraygun]

Lois took Ellen's hand and they sat in silence for a few moments,
remembering.

"Mother, do you think you and Daddy will ever ..."

"Ever what, sweetheart?"

Lois hesitated. "Well ... er, you know ... get back together on a permanent
basis?"

"I don't think so. As much as I love your father, I just can't see that."

"But if you love him-?"

"There are a lot of old scars there, sweetie. Besides, somehow the way
things
are right now seems more appropriate for us."

"I'm not sure I'm following you."

Ellen shifted her position on the bed until she was sitting next to Lois and
then she wrapped her arm around Lois' shoulder. "Well, haven't you ever met
a
couple and known that they were meant to be together forever, no matter
what?"

Lois nodded. "Like Jonathan and Martha."

"Or you and Clark."

Lois smiled. "You really feel that way about us, Mother?"

"Yes, I do. I didn't want to believe how right Clark was for you when I
first
met him. I guess I was still a little bitter about your father--"

"I wouldn't say bitter--" Ellen raised one eyebrow. "All right, maybe you
were a little bitter."

"But however I felt then," Ellen went on, "the fact is he was and still is
the right man for you. You two are just magic together."

Lois beamed. "Mother, you don't know how much it means to me to have you say
that."

"I know, baby, but just do me one favor."

"What, Mother?"

"Don't tell Clark how I feel about him. I've got my reputation as 'Dragon
Lady' Lane to protect."

"Mother!"

[Melisma]

Lois tried to protest, but was laughing too hard. Boy, did it feel good to
laugh with her mother, instead of feeling threatened by her. Perhaps she
would have tried to become pregnant sooner if she had known how good this
would feel.

*   *   *

Back at the Planet after his interviews at the prison, Clark was having a
hard time concentrating on writing up the story. Good Lord, Ellen had been
there only a short while and *already*  had found the secret suit
compartment. How long was she planning on staying there, and how could he
manage to keep The Secret with a nosey mother-in-law shadowing him?  And
there were the Merriweather Awards coming up. How was he going to
concentrate
on that, plus produce more award-winning work, with Ellen there and Lois
sick?

Life was just not fair sometimes.

[zoomway]

"CK? CK?"

Clark blinked and looked up. "Sorry, Jimmy, didn't hear you."

Jimmy smiled. "No problem, not everyone has super hearing."

Clark swallowed. "Guess not .. uh, did you need something, Jimmy?"

"Not really, it's just that every time I've passed by your desk, your cursor
has been blinking on the same sentence."

Clark nodded. "Having a little trouble concentrating."

Jimmy scooted a chair over. "Lois? Your mother-in-law?"

"Good guess."

"Well, I think I have a suggestion."

Clark tried not to smile. "You having mother-in-law problems too?"

Jimmy laughed. "No, but I've had girlfriend-mother problems before."

"Ah," Clark said and turned his chair to face Jimmy. "For some reason I
can't
wait to hear this."

"Cool," Jimmy smiled and tried to sound authoritative. "It's like this, CK.
A
mom is a mom. They all want their kids to have the best, right?"

"I'm with you so far."

"Okay, now the problem is, guys aren't like shoes."

Clark folded his arms. "You just lost me."

"It's like when my mom wanted me to have the best pair of shoes, but there's
a difference between the best and what you'd really like to wear, or what
you
think looks cool, and what your mom thinks cool, which usually isn't, like
she actually was getting me these wingtips -- they were brown and white, and
oh, man...."

"Excuse me, Jimmy, my ... beeper went off."

"I didn't hear anything."

"It's the vibrating kind."

"Oh," Jimmy blushed. "I had a vibrating beeper, but I kept wanting to get
calls for the wrong reason."

Clark tugged at his tie. "I think that's too much information, Jimmy."

Jimmy nodded and blushed again. "I'll let you make your call."

"Thanks. And, Jimmy ... thanks for the advice, too," Clark added.

"No sweat," he said and walked off as if he'd just delivered a father-son
chat.

*   *   *

Lois took a sip of her fresh glass of lemonade and tried not to grimace at
how sweet it was. Besides, she was enjoying the closeness she and her mother
had accomplished. The honesty.

"You know, Mother ... Mom," she said, wanting to broach a subject that she
feared broaching with Clark, and so deciding to test drive it. "Despite what
you might think of the job you did raising me and Lucy and holding down a
job
at the same time, I just want you to know I was always proud of you."

Ellen seemed genuinely touched. "Thank you for that, sweetie, but you'll do
much better than I did."

Lois wet her lips. "But what if I don't want to? I mean I want to be a good
mother, I just don't know if I want to do it that way.  I ... I might just
want to be a stay-at-home mom, and not ... go back to the Planet."

[chrispat]

Ellen gasped. "Not go back to the Planet?  But, Lois..."

"I know, Mother, ..." She stopped as she heard the door open downstairs.
"Clark's home. Please don't say anything to him. I haven't told him about
this yet...and anyway, it's just something I've been thinking about. I
haven't decided anything yet. "

"Oh, all right. I won't say anything now, but I want to hear more about
this.
Did Alice White put you up to it? I can't believe this is my ..."

"Mother! Please! He'll hear you!"

Ellen looked bewildered. "Lois, he's downstairs. How can he possibly hear
us?"

Lois was saved from answering by the door opening and Clark entering with a
steaming cup in one hand.

"Hi, honey. I stopped by that shop in Beijing and got this herbal tea for
you. It's supposed to be great at breaking up congestion."

He stopped short as he caught sight of Ellen. "Oh. Ellen. I thought you'd be
gone by now, er... I mean...um...Thanks for looking after Lois, but I can
take over now."

Ellen took the cup from his unresisting hand and sniffed at it suspiciously.
"Hmm. Smells all right...Beijing? I thought that was in China."

"Er...um..." He cast an imploring glance at Lois who jumped into the fray.

"Yes, Mother, it is, but there's a shop called Beijing near Hobbs Bay. Clark
met the owner when he was traveling in China before he came to Metropolis.
Now, do you think I could have that tea before it gets cold?"

Ellen sighed but handed over the cup. "Okay. I'm sure Clark wouldn't bring
you anything dangerous." She glanced from one to the other and sighed again.
"I'll get out of your hair now." She pointed a finger at Lois. "But we
*will*
continue this conversation."

Ten minutes later, Clark reentered the bedroom and settled against the
headboard of the bed next to Lois. He kissed her gently and reached out to
pat her stomach. "Hi, sweetheart and hi, Frick and Frack. You know, we
really
have to get serious about names for those two. We don't want them starting
kindergarten as Baby A and Baby B Kent."

Lois laughed.  "I know, but right now I just want to enjoy some quality time
with my husband."  She nestled against his shoulder. "I missed you."

Clark kissed the top of her head and rubbed his hand gently up and down her
arm. "I missed you too. Sorry I had to leave you alone with your mother so
much today. Was it bad?"

"It wasn't bad at all. We actually had a nice talk." She sniffled. "Clark,
could you hand me a tissue?"

Clark watched with concern as she blew her nose. "Honey, I'm so sorry you
had
to catch that cold. Especially now, with the babies and all...and we've got
the Merriwethers coming up in a couple of days. I know you don't want to
miss
that."

She settled back against his shoulder. "Oh! I'd forgotten all about that.."

Clark's eyebrows rose. "You forgot we're up for a Merriwether?? You *must*
be
sick."

Lois yawned. "Don't worry. I should be fine by then. I wonder if black tents
are in style this year," she murmured and promptly fell asleep.

Clark floated them up and slipping out from under her, tucked her in.
Bending
down, he gently kissed her forehead. There was something going on in that
pretty head of hers, but he was willing to wait. She would tell him
eventually.

Continued in part 4/5
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SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Amid preparations for
the
upcomming Merriwether Awards, Lois comes down with a bad cold and has to
stay
at home and rest. Clark gets a *super* workout as he tries to preserve his
secret as well as Lois's sanity when Ellen Lane decides to give her 'baby
girl' a little TLC.
_______________________

[Wendymr]
Flying over 348 Hyperion a few minutes later, Clark hovered just above cloud
level and activated his X-ray vision.

The house was strangely quiet, which puzzled Clark. He'd expected to find
Ellen talking Lois' ear off while his wife tried in vain to get more than
two
words in. Yet his first scan of the upper floor found his wife lying in bed
idly flicking through a magazine, with Ellen nowhere in sight.

He frowned. He was sure, knowing his mother-in-law's persistence, that she
wouldn't have given up and gone home. Perhaps Lois had sent her out for
something? Yes, that must be it, he concluded. Lois could be very
resourceful
at times.

He grinned in amusement as he contemplated the kind of request Lois could
have come up with. Red currant juice?  Fresh mangoes? Or she could have had
a
sudden craving for pineapple and butterscotch ice cream. But the smile froze
on his face as his X-ray vision suddenly found an alien presence in a place
where, as far as he was concerned, no-one had any right to venture.

Ellen had just exited the kitchen, carrying a glass of lemonade, but for
some
reason she had put it down on the table in the living room. She had then
crossed over to one of the walls and was now examining it in minute detail.
She seemed to be tapping on it with her hand, placing her ear to the wall at
the same time. As she did so, a frown crept over her features.

She drew back, hesitated, and began to make for the stairs, but then turned
back again to run her hand methodically over the wall. Not just any wall,
Clark knew, as his heart started to thump loudly. *This* was the wall behind
which lay his secret compartment. The secret compartment in which his Super
suits were hidden.

Why was his mother-in-law examining *that* wall? Come to think of it, why
was
she examining any part of his house in such close detail?

[zoomway]

"Here we are," Ellen said brightly as she handed Lois the lemonade.

"Thanks," Lois said, taking the glass, which was a little too full to hold
casually. She began to sip the drink slowly, hoping to lower the level
enough
to make it more manageable.

"You know, sweetie, you have a strange seam on your wall downstairs... near
the fire place."

Lois spewed the lemonade and began to cough.

"Lois!"

Lois hastily set the glass on the night table. "Needs sugar."

"I put three packs of 'I Can't Believe It's Not Sugar' in that glass," Ellen
said as she began walking to the bathroom. "Real sugar isn't good for you.
It
destroys brain cells ... or something." She retrieved a face towel and ran
it
under the faucet. She began to dab at her blouse. "And lemons are sour and
so
too much sweetening is counter-productive."

She re-entered the bedroom wiping her face. "Clark? What are you doing
here?"

"I pick up my mail here, Ellen," he said, and felt Lois playfully smack his
rear end. "Actually I was en route to cover a story and wanted to check on
Lois."

"Well, that's very sweet, Clark," she said, and began to wipe Lois' face.

"Mother, you haven't cleaned my face since I was six years old. I have a
*cold* - I'm not in traction."

Ellen smiled. "And you were so cute when you were six ... oh, Clark, you
should have seen her."

Clark smiled politely. "I can imagine."

"Mother ...."

"She was so theatrical. I always thought she'd be an actress."

Lois sighed and handed the lemonade to Clark. "You'll need this," she said,
and then lowered her voice. "If you could put whiskey in it you might get
through my childhood up to fourth grade when I let the hamsters loose on Pet
Day."

Clark took a bracing gulp of the lemonade and set it back on the table. "Too
sweet," he said and winked at Lois. "Uh, Ellen... Lois tells me you found
some strange crack in our wall downstairs."

Ellen shook her head. "Not a crack. A seam. It runs the full length of the
wall."

Clark cleared his throat. "Really? If you don't mind leaving Lois for a
moment, could you show it to me?"

"Clark --" Lois began to protest.

"We'll be right back, honey," Clark said casually.

"But --"

"And I'll bring you some fresh slices of mango."

Ellen, already headed for the door, turned. "Mango?"

Clark shrugged and helped usher her to the door. "Strange little fruit stand
on the outskirts of town," he said, but neglected to say what *town* on what
*continent*.

[chrispat]

Lois watched the door close behind Clark and her mother and slid her legs
out
from under the covers. She sat on the edge of the bed for a minute, but then
levered herself to her feet and crept quietly into the hall and to the top
of
the stairs. This she had to hear!

Ellen ran her hand down the suspicious seam. "And don't tell me you never
noticed this when you moved in. The wall even sounds hollow!"

Clark cleared his throat. "Well, yes, Ellen, we did notice that. You do know
that this house belonged to one of the criminals Lois and I helped to
uncover, don't you?"

Ellen gasped, her overactive imagination running away with itself. "Don't
tell me..." Her voice dropped to a whisper. "Did you discover a body in
there?"

Clark chuckled. "No, but we decided we didn't need a laboratory, so we
sealed
it up. The ghost was actually in the kitchen wall."

"The ghost???"

"Yes. Why don't you get Lois to tell you about that? I have to get back to
work. Bye, honey. I think you should get back to bed now."

Ellen gasped again and took off up the stairs. "Lois! What are you doing out
of bed?"

Clark smiled to himself as he made his escape. Lois would kill him when he
got home, but at least Ellen was distracted from her detective work.

[ChrisM]

Ellen thought of something before she reached the top of the stairs and
turned around to come back down.

"Clark!  Could you bring some of those mangoes you were--"  But he was
nowhere is sight.  "Wow!" she muttered. "That must be some terrific jogging
he does!" She shrugged her shoulders and resumed her ascent up the stairs,
fussing at Lois all the way.

Lois stayed in bed for a while after that, and even took a much needed nap.

While her daughter was sleeping, Ellen decided to tidy up the kitchen. She
was humming to herself as she put some dishes away, until she thought she
heard something out in the living room.

Cautiously, she opened the door and surprised her son-in-law in the act of
leaving the townhouse.  "Clark!  What are you doing back here?"

"Just checking on Lois, Ellen."

"But, Clark, that's what *I'm* here for!  Now, just go to work, for pete's
sake!  She'll be fine!"

"Okay, Ellen, okay.  I know you'll take good care of her. I just can't help
being concerned."

Ellen's face softened into an understanding smile. "I think it's sweet that
you care so much for Lois, Clark. Of course, if Sam had cared as much for me
as you do for Lois, then we never would have gotten a divorce."

Clark could see where this was going. He mumbled something he hoped would
sound sympathetic and beat a hasty retreat. Ellen just shook her head in
bewilderment over his rapid comings and goings.

She tiptoed upstairs to check on Lois and found her waking up.  "How was
your
nap, sweetie?"

"Fine, Mother.  Did I hear you talking to Clark?"

"Yes, he was here again.  He's going to get fired if he doesn't stay at
work!"

"Mother!"

"Well, maybe not, but there's no reason for him to neglect his job."

Lois sighed.  "I would think you'd be pleased that Clark cares more for me
than he does his work.  After all, isn't that what you used to complain to
Daddy about?"

Ellen blushed a little, but wasn't deterred. "That's true, but it wasn't
just
the work. It was all the other things."

"I know. Mrs. Belcanto."

"Lois!  How did you--?  I didn't think you knew about that."

"Just because I was young doesn't mean I was stupid.  Of course I knew."

Ellen moved forward hesitantly until she was standing beside the bed. "I'm
so
sorry, honey. You know he ... we never meant to hurt you girls."

"I know you didn't, Mother." She moved her legs over a bit, to make room for
Ellen, then waited until her mother had sat down. "It wasn't all bad, of
course.  Especially before Daddy stopped his regular practice."

Ellen nodded. "In the beginning it *was* nice. You girls were so cute, and I
was married to the smartest, most handsome doctor in the biggest hospital in
Metropolis."

"I know."

"I'm not sure exactly where it all went wrong. But when it did, it just
seemed to get worse and worse. Nothing helped."

Lois could hear the tears in her mother's voice.  "Don't cry, Mother, or
you'll get me started."

Ellen effected a smile. "I'll try not to, sweetie. I remember how easy it
was
for me to cry when I was pregnant."

"Yeah, it sure is," Lois responded, willing to lead her mother down a more
pleasant memory path."I miss my toes, and my waistline, too."

Ellen giggled a bit. "I used to think I looked like a whale, but your father
would always say I looked beautiful." Ellen dabbed at her eyes and took
Lois'
hand. "He could be such a big goofball sometimes."

Lois giggled. She'd never heard her mother say that about her father before.
"Really?  Like what?"

"Oh, just silly things. He always liked the silliest things.  Like eating
ice
cream out of the carton instead of putting it in a bowl first."

Lois had to laugh. "Now I know where I get that from!"

"Do you do that, too?"

"All the time. Clark is always finding spoons stuck in the ice cream. He
thinks it's cute."

Lois watched as a happy-sad smile lit up her mother's face. "I guess it was
kind of cute at that."

Continued in part 3/5
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TITLE: EMOTIONAL CORNERS
PART: 5/5
AUTHOR: An IRC Round Robin
RATING: PG-13
FEEDBACK: All comments public and private are welcome, but please no public
editing.
SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Amid preparations for
the
upcomming Merriwether Awards, Lois comes down with a bad cold and has to
stay
at home and rest. Clark gets a *super* workout as he tries to preserve his
secret as well as Lois's sanity when Ellen Lane decides to give her 'baby
girl' a little TLC.
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[zoomway]

"No, not scared," Lois said, but her tone was serious and a bit distracted.
"I've been thinking about something, Clark, and I'm not sure how you'll..."

"Please forgive the interruption, Lois," Ruth Friskin said as she trotted
toward the young couple, "but Mindy's dog bit Bernie in the nose and I
wondered if you might have some tissues."

"Oh, boy," Clark sighed as he reached into his pocket and extracted a
handkerchief. "Here ya go, Ruth."

"Thank you, Clark, but I was thinking more of a disposable tissue. I don't
think you'd want blood on this nice handkerchief."

Clark shrugged. "When you think about it, nothing very nice ends up on
handkerchiefs."

"I suppose so," Ruth acknowledged. "I just hope we don't have to worry about
rabies."

"Only if Mindy bit him," Lois offered dryly.

Dr. Klein entered the patio with his head tipped backward and his fingers
pinching his nose shut. He extended a hand toward Ruth. She deposited the
handkerchief in his palm forcefully in the manner of a surgical handoff in
an
operating room.

Klein put the handkerchief over his nose and then leveled his gaze. "I
*hate*
awards banquets."

Lois smiled sympathetically. "I used to hate them only if I lost."

"Or wasn't nominated," Clark teased.

Lois nudged him playfully. "That's true," she said, but her serious
expression and distracted tone resurfaced. She turned so that she was only
facing Clark. "But now...it...doesn't seem to matter that much."

Clark tipped his head to the side, his expression a combination of concern
and confusion as he studied his wife's face. "Honey, are you feeling all
right?"

Klein pulled the handkerchief from his nose. "Are you feeling ill, Lois?
Your cold isn't still lingering, is it? "

"I'm fine," she said with a forced casualness. "Let's get back to the
banquet."

Ruth smiled. "Your nose stopped bleeding, Bernie."

"Wonderful," he moaned as the small group headed back to the main room. "I'd
sure hate to miss the flavor of those vulcanized Jell-O cubes."

[Misha]

"Ah, Lois, there you are." Alice patted the seat next to her. "You just
missed the first speaker."

"Alice, you're the one who said that the opening speeches were so deadly
dull
you wanted a flak jacket and earplugs." Lois levered herself into the chair.

"Well, we found a way to pass the time." Alice winked at Jimmy across the
table. "Jimmy's been telling us about the betting pools on the baby. It
seems
that your twins have made a couple of long shot bettors very happy."

Jimmy nodded glumly. "Yeah. And I was so sure I had it in the bag. But," he
said, brightening, "there's still the delivery date." He studied Lois
carefully. "I'm down for October 1 ..."

Lois glared. "Don't even think it, Jimmy. I refuse to be pregnant for that
much longer. Two weeks and that's it."

Everyone at the table laughed, and Alice patted her arm understandingly. "I
know how you feel, dear, but the babies will decide. All you can do is
wait."

[chrispat]

Further comment was interrupted by the sound of applause as the master of
ceremonies for the awards dinner, Barry Dunning, walked to the stage.

Lois rolled her eyes. "I can't believe that they couldn't find a better host
for tonight's program."

"Maybe he works cheap?" Clark suggested.

"He should pay them!" Lois countered testily.

*   *   *

An hour later Jimmy was startled out of sleep by Perry's elbow in his ribs.
"Get your camera ready. Lois and Clark's category is next." Jimmy fumbled
with the settings as Barry droned through a few more lame jokes.

"And now, ladies and gentlemen, to present this year's award for best
feature
series...one of our fair city's greatest philanthropists... Mrs. Mindy
Church."

Mindy undulated her way to the podium and grasped the award. "Thank you,
Barry," she piped in her little girl's voice. "I just can't believe that
little old me got picked to give out this ...um...award. What's it for
again?"

Barry rolled his eyes and pointed at the paper on the podium.

Mindy looked bewildered. "Huh?....Oh!" She picked it up and stumbled through
the nominees, mispronouncing most of the names. Then Barry handed her the
envelope. She opened it slowly and then pouted. "Oh, them!"

Barry elbowed her and she reluctantly read out, "Lois Lane and Clark Kent."

Everyone at the Daily Planet table jumped up and applauded loudly as Clark
once again hauled Lois out of her chair and guided her to the stage.

Lois took the award from Mindy and smiled sweetly. "Thank you, Mrs. Church."
She turned to Clark. "You can give the speech, honey. I'll just stand here
with Mindy ... and gloat," she added under her breath.

[zoomway]

Clark adjusted his glasses and cleared his throat. "My wife and I are very
honored by this award..." he began.

Lois looked at her husband and smiled. Three years ago it was another award,
another speech, and she had joked about hanging on his arm and telling
people
how proud she was of her "great big reporter man," but she *was* proud. She
was proud of him then, and she was even prouder now.

Clark finished his speech and as the applause started, that 'look' crossed
his face. Lois was surprised they had made it this far into the evening. She
walked with him quickly backstage.

"I'm not sure how long this will take,"" he whispered. "Do you mind driving
yourself? Maybe Dr. Klein could --

"Of course not," she said, pulling him close and kissing him. "I'll see you
at home."

"Ms. Lane," a tall man said, tapping her shoulder. "I'm the photographer for
the ceremony. Where's your husband?"

"He...uh...had to go to the...bathroom...He had my chicken instead of his
vegetables, and chicken never agrees with him...well, not *never*, just
chicken at banquets...They add rubber, I think..."

*   *   *

Clark stepped gingerly into the townhouse. His boots actually *squished*.
Climbing the stairs as quietly as possible, he pushed open the door to the
bedroom.

Lois, brushing her hair at the mirror, struggled to a standing position and
faced a Superman covered in some type of greasy substance.

"What happened!?"

Clark sighed as he unfastened his cape. "A Papa Leoni's cooking oil truck
collided with a Cindy Lou Muffin Toppers truck. No one was hurt, but I've
been digging pink sprinkles out of my suit for half an hour."

Lois laughed and took the soggy cape. "Get a shower, Clark, and I'll soak
the
suit...in something."

He kissed her cheek, "Thanks, honey. We get more shampoo?" he asked as he
entered the bathroom. "I think the police at the scene thought I had pink
dandruff."

"Next to the sink," Lois said as she headed downstairs with the costume.

Fifteen minutes later, clean, dry, and back in his tuxedo, Clark descended
the stairs.

"Wow," Lois said with a sigh. "You clean up real nice, but why the tuxedo?"

Clark walked over to the stereo and put on some music. "Because we didn't
get
a chance to dance at the banquet, and it's the *only* reason I ever look
forward to going," he said, and took Lois in his arms.

[chrispat]

"Can we talk about something first, Clark," Lois said as she gazed into his
eyes.

"The 'something' you started to tell me at the banquet?"

"Yes," she nodded. "What would you say if I told you I was thinking of not
going back to work after the babies are born?"

Clark stared at her in shock. "What???"

[athene]

"Did you just say what I thought you said?" Superhearing aside, Clark
couldn't believe his own ears. "You don't mean that, do you?"

"Well..."

Lois broke out of his embrace and distanced herself a bit.

"I just don't want..." Her voice was getting smaller and smaller.

"You just don't want what, sweetheart?"

"I just don't want our babies..."  Her voice trailed off once again. She
still refused to look at him when he started stroking her back in reassuring
circles. "...coming to me in twenty years and reproaching me for never being
there when they needed me... How will we ever find the time to go see a
school play? To drive them to football practice or even read them a bedtime
story?"

Lois was talking faster and faster and Clark could see the glimmer of tears
on her cheeks.

[zoomway]

"Hey, hey," Clark whispered and gently drew a thumb across her cheek to wipe
her tears. "I've had the same nightmares, honey. We live the impossible,
remember?" he asked and tipped her chin up.

Lois nodded and sniffed. "Taking a chance," she said, repeating what he had
said to her in the Lake's zoo, "is what we're all about."

"Right," he smiled.

"Then I hope you understand I mean this, Clark. I...I really have been
thinking that maybe I don't want to be 'super mom'...wait, bad choice of
words." She laughed faintly. "I just mean I don't want to *prove* anything.
I
don't want to have my job at the Planet and raise our kids in between
stakeouts and interviews."

Clark scratched the back of his neck. "Honey, I'm not quite following. It
almost sounds like you're saying you want to be a full-time mom, and I know
I
can't be getting the message right."

Lois patted his chest. "No, you're following me pretty well. I'm not saying
that's what I'll feel like a year from now when I want to throw a shoe at
Barney the dinosaur, but...I am feeling that way right now, I guess."

"Lois..." Clark sighed. He hadn't expected *this*. "When I first started at
the Planet, I knew that no matter how much I thought I had you figured out,
I'd be wrong. I haven't felt that way in a long time...until just now."

Lois looked at her husband. That lost-little-boy look had taken over his
features. "Are you upset?"

"No," he replied quickly. "Not upset ... stunned would be a better word. And
for the record," he continued, as he regained some composure, "if that's
truly what you want, I'm on your side, Lois. It'll just take me a while to
recover from the shock," he said, and kissed her forehead.

"Fair enough." She stepped into his arms. "We'll talk about this some more
after our dance, though I don't feel like I'm exactly built for dancing."

"I hadn't noticed," Clark whispered as they lifted off the floor. "You seem
pretty light on your feet."

Lois laughed. "Wonder what Perry will think about my...plan."

Clark froze them in midair. "Perry," he sighed. "Do me a favor, honey. When
you tell *him* your news, wait till I'm dressed as Superman."

THE END
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Hi everyone,

Obviously one of these 4 of 5 is 5 of 5. ;) Serves me right for posting
without my morning coffee ;).

Cheers,
Eileen
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I just got back from the marina and I had to tell you right away what
happened there.  Boy, what a night I've had!  If it hadn't been for
Superman, I would have been reunited with the King a whole lot sooner than I
was planning.

First off, Ron Underhill turns up clutching some sort of package and shows
me onto his boat.  When I say 'shows me', you have to appreciate that he was
doing this with only a small pencil light - he refused to turn on any lights
on the boat until he'd got us safely inside and had drawn all the curtains
in the cabin.  Even then he only turned on a small side light.  He sure was
nervous.

So then he tells me this long, involved story about him and Donald
MacDonald.  You know MacDonald was bullied at school by Underhill and his
friends?  Well, Ron thinks that MacDonald's been getting his own back for
years without anyone realising it.  For instance, apparently the scoop I got
years ago as a green reporter was stolen from Ron by MacDonald and fed to me
anonymously.  Ron always said I stole the story and I always denied it - of
course, now I feel real bad knowing that the story really was Ron's.  Heck,
that story practically launched my career!

Just think - Ron and I have been enemies since school, and it was all
because of Donald MacDonald.  Frankly, people, I feel used.

Anyway, then Ron hits me with the big stuff.  He admits - yes, admits! -
that he arranged the bombing of the Planet and that Harry P Dow was the
actual bomber.  He says he did it because MacDonald ordered him to, and the
package he's got with him is taped evidence of their conversations.  I have
to tell you, at this point I was getting as nervous as Ron, even though I
knew Superman was nearby.  Anyway, we listen to the tapes, and it's clear
that MacDonald is telling Ron to plant a bomb, even if he never actually
says it.  MacDonald tells Ron on the tapes to contact Dow, but doesn't say
exactly why.  Ron was horrified when he learnt that two people died in the
explosion - he reckons that MacDonald paid Dow a little more on the side to
use extra explosive (something about Jack getting too close to a money
laundering operation of MacDonald's).

So by this time I know we're sitting on dynamite here.  We finish listening
to the tapes and Ron gives them to me.  I'm just about to holler for
Superman to collect them - I figure he's better than any safe in town - when
guess who turns up with a gun?  Donald MacDonald.  Judas Priest, but that
guy sure scared the living daylights out of me.  How the heck did he know we
were meeting at the marina?

Anyway, I'm standing there staring at MacDonald's gun, and he's standing
opposite me demanding the tapes or else, and I'm thinking - he's gonna shoot
us anyway whether I give him the tapes or not, so I might as well hold out
on him.  Ron is yelling in my ear to give him the tapes (I always said the
guy was a spineless idiot), and everyone is getting more and more
trigger-happy.  I'm just about to make a lunge for the gun when this blue
and red streak flashes by and then MacDonald is standing wrapped head-to-toe
in rope - kinda looking like a Michelin Man - and Superman is crunching the
gun up in his bare hand.  Ron crumples on the floor in a a heap and I hand
the tapes over to Superman like they're hot potatoes.

I guess that's about it.  Superman took the tapes, MacDonald and Underhill
off to the nearest police precinct, and here I am, back at home just about
in one piece.

Gotta go now - Alice wants to count all my fingers and toes again.

Perry

PS You two get on this story NOW.
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Thank you, Ann!

No one seems to read my stories. I guess they get forgotten when everyone
else writes better. <g> You made me feel better. I'm not done with the story
yet. That was the first chapter.

Love,Misty
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> This was very cute.  It was a great way to start the day-- with a chuckle.
> Very nicely put together.   I love the ending.
>
> Ann
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ENJOYED THE STORY - LOOKING FORWARD TO NEXT PART
merry

Ann E. McBride wrote:

> This was very cute.  It was a great way to start the day-- with a chuckle.
> Very nicely put together.   I love the ending.
>
> Ann
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At 12:59 PM -0700 10/16/99, Eugene Ellison wrote:

>This is my second attempt at writing fanfiction. My first one was one that
I
>didn't really try very hard to write.

>No one seems to read my stories. I guess they get forgotten when everyone
>else writes better. <g>

Don't sell yourself short, Misty!  How can people not read your stories
when this is only the second one you've tried?  :)  We all have to start
somewhere, and I'm glad you are posting your newest story.  Keep going! :)

Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:16:24 -0700
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This is a very cute start.  I'm interested in seeing where the next
chapter's
lead us.

Nan Smith
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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:53:17 -0700
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Just a quick question on a subject which was never very clear to me.
Where did the two clones Lois and Luthor stole from STAR Labs come
from?  Did Lex's people make them, or did STAR Labs?  I've never been
sure.

Nan
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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 1999 12:50:28 -0700
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Nicely done!  I especially liked that you chose to tell it through dialogue
for which you have a very good ear.  Looking forward to more.   Jude
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Nan, my recollection is that they were made by Dr. Mamba under Lex's orders
and were confiscated and stored at Star Labs when Mamba was arrested.  Jude
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> Just a quick question on a subject which was never very clear to me.
> Where did the two clones Lois and Luthor stole from STAR Labs come
> from?  Did Lex's people make them, or did STAR Labs?  I've never been
> sure.
>
> Nan
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Thanks.  It was just a point I needed to clear up.

Nan

Judith Williams wrote:

> Nan, my recollection is that they were made by Dr. Mamba under Lex's
orders
> and were confiscated and stored at Star Labs when Mamba was arrested.
Jude
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Nancy Smith <deimos1@EARTHLINK.NET>
> To: <LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
> Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 11:53 AM
> Subject: Seconds
>
> > Just a quick question on a subject which was never very clear to me.
> > Where did the two clones Lois and Luthor stole from STAR Labs come
> > from?  Did Lex's people make them, or did STAR Labs?  I've never been
> > sure.
> >
> > Nan
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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 1999 15:45:04 -0700
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Does anyone remember the name of Lenny Stoke's sound weapon in the
episode "Wall of Sound"?  Was a name given for it?

Nan
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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 1999 19:39:24 -0500
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I want to thank all the wonderful writers for their stories that have
kept me entertained for hours.
I want to thank all the people who are involved in keeping the archives
up to date for their hard work.
I want to thank all the people who have websites and keep their stories
and those of other writers on them, so we nonwriters are able to read
them.
I also want to thank zoom and demi for their message  boards  where
information about TH
and DC can be found, stories can be found, and gossip among other things
can be found.
And I want to thank all the other people who have websites where other
things about
TH and DC can be found.
I know this can be tedious work at times - and being a lurker
    I APPRECIATE ALL OF YOU
merry
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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:50:48 -0400
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I liked it, too!  I'm just waaay! behind on my e-mail right now.  I can't
wait to see more of it!

Tara

------Original Message------
From: Eugene Ellison <supergirl28@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
Sent: October 16, 1999 7:59:25 PM GMT
Subject: Re: NEW STORY: Discoveries and Rebirths Part 1

Thank you, Ann!

No one seems to read my stories. I guess they get forgotten when everyone
else writes better. <g> You made me feel better. I'm not done with the story
yet. That was the first chapter.

Love,Misty
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> This was very cute.  It was a great way to start the day-- with a chuckle.
> Very nicely put together.   I love the ending.
>
> Ann

"Thou shalt remember the Eleventh Commandment and keep it Wholly."  Robert
A. Heinlein
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Date:         Sun, 17 Oct 1999 02:19:36 +0100
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What a whole lot of fun my very first award ceremony was! Thanks to everyone
involved in putting the nKerths together - you guys amaze me with your
talent and enthusiasm.

And congratulations to my fellow award winners. I was so delighted to see
the 'old guard' sweeping the board at the ceremony last night. (Sorry guys,
know that makes you sound like doddering old dears, but you know what I
mean. <g>) They really deserve recognition for all that they've brought to
the genre. Without them, many of us wouldn't be here today, having fun with
our own fic. I know that if it hadn't been for reading the wonderful nfic of
Sheila, Kathy, Dom, Menolly, Gorn, Demi...et al....I never would have
thought of writing any of my own. You gave me so many wonderful, waffy
moments with Lois and Clark, guys, I can't thank you enough.

Thanks, guys! You deserve every accolade you won.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk

PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS!

"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde

"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H.
L. Mencken
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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:58:26 -0500
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From:         James Tull <mr_d8a@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Quick Info NEEDED!

This is a time sensitive email. Please respond in the next hour.  It is now
9:00 pm St. Louis, MO USA, CST.

It's late, my creative juices are running dry and I am trying to finish Act
II of Seven Days of Superman.

I need a name for a downtown eating establishment that would just off the
Park across from the Hall of Justice.  I seem to remember a resturant or
something in the downtown area but I cannot bring it to mind.

Oh, and it would have to serve breakfast and lunch.

James  who is stuck at work and trying to kill two birds with one stone.
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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 1999 20:36:58 -0600
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From:         Debby <Debby@SWCP.COM>
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At 08:58 PM 10/16/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>This is a time sensitive email. Please respond in the next hour.  It is now
>9:00 pm St. Louis, MO USA, CST.
>
>It's late, my creative juices are running dry and I am trying to finish Act
>II of Seven Days of Superman.
>
>I need a name for a downtown eating establishment that would just off the
>Park across from the Hall of Justice.  I seem to remember a resturant or
>something in the downtown area but I cannot bring it to mind.
>
>Oh, and it would have to serve breakfast and lunch.
>
>
>James  who is stuck at work and trying to kill two birds with one stone.

We have such a place in downtown Albuquerque: The Stuffed Croissant :) It
was
bought a while back and lost some of its ambiance but they still try to have
good food.

Heck, name it "Casa de James"

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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Date:         Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:57:13 -0500
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"ditto" labrat
merry

LabRat wrote:

> What a whole lot of fun my very first award ceremony was! Thanks to
everyone
> involved in putting the nKerths together - you guys amaze me with your
> talent and enthusiasm.
>
> And congratulations to my fellow award winners. I was so delighted to see
> the 'old guard' sweeping the board at the ceremony last night. (Sorry
guys,
> know that makes you sound like doddering old dears, but you know what I
> mean. <g>) They really deserve recognition for all that they've brought to
> the genre. Without them, many of us wouldn't be here today, having fun
with
> our own fic. I know that if it hadn't been for reading the wonderful nfic
of
> Sheila, Kathy, Dom, Menolly, Gorn, Demi...et al....I never would have
> thought of writing any of my own. You gave me so many wonderful, waffy
> moments with Lois and Clark, guys, I can't thank you enough.
>
> Thanks, guys! You deserve every accolade you won.
>
> LabRat :)
> Doc. Klein's LabRat
> labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk
>
> PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS!
>
> "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde
>
> "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." --
H.
> L. Mencken
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Subject:      Quick Info NEEDED! Thank You.

Thank you all for your responces.  The first three responders get honorable
mention in the story.
Thank you
Debby the over achiever with 2 suggestions. The Stuffed Croissant and Casa
de James
missytoo@pop.mindspring.com  Gabby's Deli I am Changing it to Missy's Deli
in honor of the suggester.
Tara Smith Kountry Kitchen

You'll have to read the story to see who the winner is.

James.
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From:         Sheila Harper <sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US>
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From: LabRat

>What a whole lot of fun my very first award ceremony was! Thanks to
everyone
>involved in putting the nKerths together - you guys amaze me with your
>talent and enthusiasm.

I want to second this.  I was a presenter, so I was in on some of the
behind-the-scenes effort, but the people who actually organized everything
were terrific.  Despite a monster netsplit, the MC's kept things moving
along; the sounds were appropriate and timely; the plaques were beautiful
and available for viewing immediately after the winners were announced; and
the commercials were appropriate and funny.  I enjoyed myself enormously.
In fact, I had so much fun presenting that I think I'll volunteer for next
year.

>I was so delighted to see
>the 'old guard' sweeping the board at the ceremony last night. (Sorry guys,
>know that makes you sound like doddering old dears, but you know what I
>mean. <g>)

"Doddering old dears"?  <choke>  Oh god, LabRat, that gives me a picture of
little old ladies with blue hair gathered for tea and gossip in a
Victorian-style house, which somehow doesn't work as an image of an nfic
writer.

I want to thank all of you faithful nfic readers.  It was a delight to be
recognized for something that brings me so much joy, and I'm so glad that so
many of you found pleasure in reading my stories, too.

I also want to extend my congratulations to all the winners and runners-up
and nominees.  The quality of the nominated stories was incredible, and
based on the number of ties, voting was very close.  I know that voting was
terribly difficult for me because the stories were so good and so hard to
choose between.  Thank you, all of you other writers, for the many hours of
pleasure I've had reading your stories.  I'm proud to be included in your
number.

Sheila Harper
(Maybe not blue-haired old ladies, but "gathered for gossip" fits better
than I'd like to admit)
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Date:         Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:38:55 -0400
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Hi Perry,

You are all right, aren't you?  It's pretty scary to find yourself starin=
g
down the barrel of a gun.  I know  because it's happened to me once or
twice and the relief when you hear that 'woosh' and feel the blue and red=

wind..... it's amazing.  =

Superman dropped by after he'd handed Macdonald and Underhill over to
Henderson.  The Inspector reckons that they'll both be arraigned later
today, thanks to the those tapes of Underhill's.

According to Superman, Underhill was sqealing all the way to the station
and he couldn't wait to do a deal with Henderson to give evidence against=

MacDonald.  I doubt that MacDonald can wriggle free of this one but they'=
re
going to have to arrange protection for Underhill as Superman say's that =
if
looks could kill Macdonald would have murdered Ron on the spot. =

By the way, the Big Boy Scout sends you his regards and says he was happy=

to help out.

Clark and I are going to get right on with this story and you can expect
the report on the arrest very soon but we both think that this is a 'big'=

story and that it's going to run and run.  Frankly, we think that this is=

just the tip of the iceberg and who knows what else we'll find when we
investigate Macdonald's empire.  He could be a bigger criminal than Lex
Luthor.  Should be good for the circulation figures.

Take care, Perry,
Lois and Clark

PS:  You're right about your assumptions about my mother, but don't worry=

Perry,  pregnancy in women in their late fifties is very rare.  I should
have known that it could happen to my mother....OY!
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Date:         Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:38:45 -0400
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Subject:      OUATIM: Ellen to Lois
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Hi Mother,

I hope you're feeling better than I am.  I went a couple of mornings
without feeling too unwell but then this morning....... wham, my nausea
came back with a vengeance and I've spent the morning making constant tri=
ps
to the bathroom.  Well, I guess I don't have to tell you how miserable it=

makes you feel.  This is unreal, comparing pregnancy symptoms with my
mother.  Do you get tired a lot?  I find myself falling asleep in the
oddest places.

Have you told Daddy yet?  Please let me know how he takes the news.

I have to go as I've got a big story to write; we found out who bombed th=
e
Planet and why and this is one story Clark and I are going to get a lot o=
f
satisfaction in breaking.  Don't forget to read it in the next edition of=

the Planet.

Love Lois
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Is anyone out there combining all of the OUATIM posts into one huge fanfic,
or whatever?  I really need someone to do that because I am going to need
those posts for future reference when I write my Lara story. =)

Thanks.
Alexis ;-.)
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Date:         Sun, 17 Oct 1999 02:26:01 -0500
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From:         James Tull <mr_d8a@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: fanfic research: Dr. Klein

On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 10:33:15 -0600, Erin Klingler <erink@IDA.NET> wrote:

>Hi everyone!
>
>Does anyone know in which episode Dr. Klein first appeared?  And after his
>first appearance, which handful of eps followed that he was in?  Just
wanted
>to make sure I had my facts straight.  ;)
>
>Erin  :)

Around the end of April this year I asked if anyone had a list of all the
episodes in which the good Doctor appeared.  Someone replied(Zoom?) and did
a great job.  But alas I have lost the email(Curses! Del strikes again!)
Could whomever please respond publicly and satisfy us both?

James
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In a message dated 10/17/99 2:26:27 AM Central Daylight Time,
mr_d8a@YAHOO.COM writes:

<< Around the end of April this year I asked if anyone had a list of all the
 episodes in which the good Doctor appeared.  Someone replied(Zoom?) and did
 a great job.  But alas I have lost the email(Curses! Del strikes again!)
 Could whomever please respond publicly and satisfy us both? >>

Don't Tug on Superman's Cape
Ultra Woman
Chip Off the Old Clark
Super Mann
Seconds
Oedipus Wrecks
It's a Small World After All
Through a Glass Darkly
Brutal Youth
Dead Lois Walking
Bob and Carol and Lois and Clark
Lethal Weapon
Shadow of a Doubt
Voice from the Past
Toy Story

I think that's all of them. Also Klein was "contacted" but not seen on
camera
in several episodes including Home is Where the Hurt Is, Meet John Doe,
Battleground Earth, etc.

Zoom (Congrats to the Nkerth winners, and sorry I didn't notice at first
that
I was supposed to give the acceptance speech for a round robin winner ;)
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Question for a fic:

Is there anything in the show that refers to Lois knowing a secret, sordid
or not, from Perry's past? It would have to be something that happened
before the pilot, not during any of the actual episodes. We all know that
Lois knows a secret that belongs to Jimmy (JSN), and Pam did a lovely job
of adding that to "Being Lois Lane," but what about Perry? If there isn't
anything, I'll just make something up, but it's always more satisfying to
use something that's mentioned on the show. :)

Thanks,

Hazel
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Hey Folcs :)
awww, what a great party that was yesterday! Even a major netsplit
didn't cloud the fun I'm sure everyone was having!

Like Labrat, I was especially happy to see that many of the "old" Folcs
(old in regard not to their age, but to the durance as members of the
online-fandom) and writers were honored for their work. Their love to
the characters of the show and their immense talent as writers, after
all is what inspires so many newbies (like me <g>) to write and what
gave us so many hours of wonderful reading!

So, congratioulations to the winners *and* all the nominees and a big,
big thank you to the organizers of another great IRC-party!

take care
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Okay, I stop teasing you guys with "Heartache tonight" <g>, since that
little baby seems to take longer than we expected, now that Pitty is
moving. But who would have thought that you were actually *reading* the
signature, hm?
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Perry,

re: the oldest a woman can become pregnant? ---  Ellen Lane has probably
broken the world record here but, Chief, this is kinda outside my range of
experience.  Stop worrying and ask Alice!

The Macdoanld  boat story is attached -- not much MacDonald, lots of boat --
long, sleek, smooth, hardwood gliding through the night -- wonderful.  Now
that Henderson's got MacDonald maybe this story could go as a sidebar ---
Killer's Yacht, or Metro Sailing Club Harbours Killer or ...   Did you know
he named the boat "Rosebud"?

Jimmy got a great shot of Macdonald  talking to Underhill -- arguing we
think
-- as we were walking back to the clubhouse from MacDonald's yacht.  Then
Underhill took off,  probably for your meeting with him ?, and Macdoanld
pulled away in that black Jag of his.  Jimmy got a good shot of that, too.

So Henderson's got everything wrapped up.  Great news!

Now, about restoring the Planet, and the newsroom decor ....

Cat
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LabRat and Sheila have summed up my feelings so nicely, but I needed to add
my own words of thanks.  As a presenter and a ceremony assistant behind the
scenes, I had thought to write up my presentation speeches, but I hadn't
given any thought to an acceptance speech.  Thus, my wins last night caught
me off guard. :)

The ceremony, as in Kerth events past, was wonderfully upbeat and fun.  We
were up to 58 people on the channel at one point, and we may have gone
above that when I wasn't looking. :)  Despite the split (the biggest in
Kerth history; you should have seen those names scroll! <bg>), we managed
to go on with the show.  Those of you who didn't stay for the
after-ceremony party missed out on a great time! :)

Thank you to everyone involved with the nKerth project -- that includes the
organizers, but also the writers, editors and *readers* of nfic.  Without
you, none of this would have been possible.  Thank you especially to the
writers of all the nominated stories; you have made us all happy by sharing
your talents.

Congrats to all the winners, runner-ups, and nominees.  The field was so
strong, and the voting so difficult.  This is a testament to the immense
talent we have in FoLCdom.

And, of course, thank you to all those who voted for my stories!  I am
extremely honored that three of my stories won last night.  :)

Kathy

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TITLE: Being Lois Lane
PART: 3/3
AUTHOR: Pam Jernigan (jernigan@bellsouth.net)
RATING: PG
FEEDBACK: Any and all kinds accepted, in public or private.  I'm still
working on this, so I'll take any helpful comments.
SUMMARY: This is a sequel to "Just Like That...?".  Lois has convinced
Clark that it's her in the clone body, but now they face the task of
reclaiming a life together.

***

"Are you sure about this, honey?" Clark asked, as they stood outside of
Ellen Lane's upstate apartment building.

Lois took a deep breath, wishing the knot in her stomach would go away.
"You're the one who wanted me to do this, Clark, don't go changing your
story now."

"I don't want you to do it just for me, you know that."

"I know."  She had thought long and hard about this.  Her mother drove
her crazy on a regular basis, true, but she only had one mother.  "You
know, right before the wedding, we had some good moments," she said,
more to reassure herself than to convince Clark.  "We bonded when we
were shooting clones -- hah, now that's ironic.  But I think we could
have a better relationship."  Besides, whatever her faults, Ellen didn't
deserve to think her oldest daughter had died young.

"All right, then."  Clark opened the door to the lobby, and ushered her
inside.  He'd called ahead, and Ellen was expecting him.  Within
moments, she was opening her apartment door to them.

"Hello, Clark."

Lois sucked in her breath.  Her mother looked terrible, and she'd
obviously begun drinking again.

"Hello, Ellen ... are you okay?" Clark couldn't help asking.

"Am I okay?"  Ellen found that question funny, but her laugh betrayed
her inebriated state.  "Of course not!  My Lois, my favorite daughter
... she's dead!  Didn't you know?"  She looked up at him owlishly,
swaying a bit as she held onto the door jamb.  Her head slewed to the
right as she noticed Lois.  "And who's this?"  Her voice roughened with
hurt and anger.  "I knew you couldn't be trusted.  My baby's barely in
the grave, and you're taking up with another woman!  Men!  You claimed
you loved her!  What has this -- this *floozy* got that my daughter
doesn't have?"

Lois couldn't help herself.  "A pulse?" she murmured bitterly, but she
managed to keep the observation quiet enough that Ellen didn't catch
it.  Clark sent a brief reproving glance her way.

"Ellen, I do love your daughter, very much.  You have to listen to me."

Ellen shook her head decisively.  "I'm not ever gonna listen to a man
again.  They're all cheats, and liars.  Don't you ever come around here
again, either."  She backed away, and slammed the door shut.

Clark raised his hand to knock again, but Lois caught his arm mid-way.
"Don't bother.  She's drunk.  There's no point talking to her now."  She
closed her eyes, caught between bitter memories and painful reality.
"We'll have to try again, but ... not now.  Dammit, why did she start
drinking again?  She'd been doing so well!"

Clark reached out and pulled her into a hug.  "She's had a tough time,
Lois.  She's just ... not so strong, under pressure.  We'll talk to her
later ... maybe we can talk to Lucy, first, and have her help us."

Lois nodded, absorbing much-needed support.  "Yeah, that's a good
idea."  She sighed.  "Is it worth it?"

He hesitated a long moment.  "I think it could be, eventually."

"Yeah.  I hope you're right."  She squared her shoulders.  "But in the
meantime--"

"The Daily Planet."

***

In the Chief Editor's office, Perry scowled at Lois.  "A new body?  Back
from the dead?  Tell me, darlin', did you see Elvis anywhere along the
way?  Judas Priest!"  His expression softened fractionally as he turned
to Clark.  "Son, don't tell me you fell for this malarkey.  I said I
wanted you to heal, but this was *not* the sort of healing I had in
mind!  I know you miss Lois, but this isn't how to deal with it."

"I can't believe you, Clark," Jimmy added bitterly, a note of confused
betrayal in his voice.  "I know you loved Lois since the moment you saw
her.  How can you *do* this?  And how dare you bring *her* around here,
around us.  We knew Lois longer than you did, you know -- we loved her
too!"

Clark sighed, and glanced at Lois, who was clearly unsure of how to
respond.  They'd known that their friends might not react well, but it
was still disheartening to face. "Jimmy ... Chief ... this *is* Lois.  I
didn't believe her at first, either, but--"

Perry threw up his hands.  "Clark, this woman is deranged, or worse, and
she's taking advantage of you in your grief."

"I am not!"  Stung, and probably grateful for a target, Lois went into
attack mode.  "Perry, I know you think you're good at judging people,
but the plain fact is, you're lousy at it.  I mean, look at Bill Church
-- a lifelong friend, and you still managed to overlook his little
Intergang hobby."

"Hey, hey, hey!"  Perry spluttered, his face reddening, but Lois refused
to stop.

"And how about your golfing buddy the Senator, who turned out to be a
Nazi?  Or your friend from the Men's Club who was running a slave labor
ring in Chinatown?  Face it, Chief -- I love ya -- but your character
judgement sucks.  So don't dismiss me so quickly."

Clark winced and rubbed a hand over his face.  "Lois, this is *not* the
way to--"

"Yeah, Clark, I know, I'm ticking him off.  But you know I'm right.  He
was totally fooled by that clone of me, wasn't he?"

Perry, now with a firmer grip on his temper, turned to Clark and asked,
in a deceptively mild voice.  "What clone?"

Clark shifted uncomfortably in his seat.  "Well, Chief, Lois was
kidnapped right after the wedding.  For the next few days, the woman you
thought was Lois was really ... a clone.  I was fooled by her, too," he
admitted.

Jimmy stirred at that, leaning forward to rejoin the conversation.
"Lois did act kinda strange those last couple of days."

Perry fixed him with a severe glance.  "How d'ya mean?"

Jimmy squirmed.  "She, ah -- it was like she didn't know me.  And then
she was practically coming on to me!"  He glanced uneasily towards
Clark, then away again.  "I didn't do anything, 'cause, I mean, it was
*Lois*, but ... it was way weird."

Clark just shrugged, unsurprised by the tale.  "It's okay, Jimmy," he
added quietly.  "She did a lot of weird things."

"Now you're telling me that *that* was a clone?" Perry demanded
incredulously.

"Yeah.  She eventually told me all about it."

"See?" Lois turned on Perry with a note of triumph in her voice.  "How
can you expect to know when it *is* me, when you didn't know when it
*wasn't* me.  And it definitely wasn't me," she added, nervous energy
driving her, "because, Jimmy, you're a good friend, but there is no
*way* I would ... I mean, I know you had that dream and all, but that's
all it was *ever* going to be--"  She stopped.   "What is it?"

Jimmy was staring at her, his face drained of color.  "You know about --
no one knows about that!"

Clark frowned in confusion, looking at both of them.  He noticed Perry
was looking similarly bewildered.

Lois clapped a hand over her mouth in dismay, then immediately removed
it again.  "I'm sorry, Jimmy, I said I'd forget all about it, and I did,
really, until just now -- I never even told Clark."  She glanced his way
sheepishly.

He shrugged.  "It's true, Jimmy, she never said a thing."

"Never mind that," Perry interrupted brusquely.  "What is all this
supposed to mean?"

Jimmy visibly composed himself.  "Chief, I once told Lois -- and *only*
Lois -- about--" he shot a belligerent look towards his boss. "Never
mind what it was about."

"I think we can guess," Perry commented dryly.  His face had softened
into a thoughtful look as he studied Lois.  "All right, whoever you are,
you just bought yourself some time."

For the next half hour or so, Perry grilled Lois mercilessly,
interrogating her about events in their shared past -- with an emphasis
on the time before Clark had joined the Planet, no doubt to eliminate
the possiblity that Clark had been coaching her.  Eventually, however,
the old newsman stopped the questions.  He sat back in his chair with a
suspicious glint of moisture in his eyes, and said gruffly, "Welcome
home, honey."

*

Lois collapsed back into her chair as his meaning sunk in, and she was
choked by a sudden wave of emotion.  She hadn't realized how much she'd
missed her job, her friends, until they were restored to her.  "Thanks,
Perry," she managed to whisper.  She turned. "Jimmy?"

"Oh, don't worry Lois," he grinned broadly.  "You had me at the dream.
But the less said about *that*, the better!"

She grinned, regaining some of her equilibrium, and squeezed Clark's
hand, looking up at him in wonder.  "They believe me!"

"Of course they do, honey," he replied, reassuringly.  "Just like my
folks do.  And like your mother will, once we can explain it to her."

Perry coughed, drawing their attention.  "I, uh, hate to interrupt," he
drawled sardonically, "but what did you two plan to do now?"

Clark tilted his head.  "We don't quite know," he admitted with a
lopsided smile.  "Lois has identification that she's named Paula
Bainbridge ... you could hire her, maybe?"

"Oh, yeah," Jimmy enthused, "that's a great idea!  You know, you guys
could pretend you'd only just met, and get to know each other, and Paula
could soothe your broken heart, Clark.  It oughtta take a while,
though."  Jimmy saw Clark's look of dismay, and hastily added,  "Hey,
it'd only be in public!  Don't you think it'd be fun?  I always thought
a secret identity would be cool..." his voice trailed off as he became
aware that Perry was frowning at him.

Lois carefully held back a grin at that, and glanced at Clark.  He was
keeping a poker face as well, but his eyes were dancing.  "A secret
identity, Jimmy?" Clark asked, sucessfully keeping all laughter out of
his voice.  "I just don't think that would be very practical.  Plus I
only just got Lois back -- I don't want to have to stay away from her
for any length of time at all."

"In fact," Lois put in helpfully, "we got married yesterday, in Vegas --
you'd have loved it, Chief, more Elvis impersonators than you could
shake a stick at."

Perry waved this aside.  "Impersonators don't do the King justice.  And
don't distract me from the point, which is ... well, it's not going to
look good for you two to be married."

"Why not?" Clark demanded, leaning forward.  Next to him, Lois sank back
in her chair, briefly weary of the never-ending battle.

"Well, you see, a good deal of a reporter's job -- especially for you,
Clark -- depends on his credibility," Perry explained.  "People talk to
you because they know your reputation; you're honest and loyal and
trustworthy.  And everyone in the city knows how hopelessly in love you
were with Lois."

"How in love I *am* with Lois," Clark instantly corrected.

"From their perspective, though, it's were," Jimmy spoke up, frowning
over the problem.  "And if they see you take up with some blonde
bimbo--"

"Jimmy!"

"Sorry, Lois, but that's what they'll say."

Clark shook his head.  "What I do in my personal life shouldn't have
that big of an impact -- maybe they'll think I'm an fool for love,
but--"

"And then there's a problem with hiring her," Perry continued
remorselessly.  "I doubt 'Paula' has any experience or training on her
resume ... and she won't have any of her old sources, either.  It'll
take years to build up a network."

"Chief, Lois and I shared our sources, you know that; we haven't lost
any.  Are you saying you don't *want* to hire her?"

"Of course not, Clark," the editor reassured them gruffly.  "But I do
have bosses to answer to.  What do I tell them?"

Lois sat in her chair and listened to the three of them talk strategy,
not really liking any of the proposed alternatives.  None of them felt
right, none of them were really *her*.  Of course, she wasn't quite
herself anymore, but she still *felt* like Lois Lane ... at that
rebellious thought, new possibilities began to blossom, opening up new
choices.  At last, a course of action that felt right.

She held up a hand, gesturing for silence, and announced, loudly enough
to be heard, "This is ridiculous.  I'm going public."

They looked at her in varying degrees of surprise and shock.  She stared
back challengingly.  "What?  It solves a lot of problems if everyone
knows that I'm me.  Clark doesn't look like he's betrayed me, and I get
my resume, my life, and my *name* back."

Perry was the first to regain his voice, frowning in consternation.
"That'll be a tough sell, legally -- there aren't any precedents."

Lois shrugged.  "I don't know how far I'll want to take it, but I can at
least change my name back to Lois."

"How are you going to explain your illegal ID?" Clark asked quietly, no
doubt knowing that she wouldn't want to betray the man who'd helped her
with it.

She grinned.  "I'll tell them Lex Luthor did it, and they should take it
up with him.  But I, of course, have no idea where he is."

Slowly, he smiled back.  "Of course not."

"Anyway, that's for a lawyer to settle."

"I can give you the name of a good lawyer," Perry offered.  "Just remind
me, later."

Lois considered that -- given Perry's record, taking his advice on a
lawyer could be disastrous.  Then again, he'd hired her, and Clark ...
so he wasn't wrong all the time.  "I'll do that, Perry."  And interview
several others, too, just in case.  "This case will probably be
nationwide news, actually; lawyers might be lining up to work for free,
just to build their reputations."  It was an unappealing thought, but
she resolutely brushed it aside.

"Oh yeah," Jimmy said, in a tone of dawning realization, "this is going
to be all over the tabloids."

"Good," Lois stated brightly.  "If they're getting the word out, that's
fewer people I have to tell about it myself.  Besides, the Planet will
have the story first -- I assume you want the story, Chief?"

Perry stared at her for a long moment, then nodded.  "If this is what
you want to do, darlin', then the Planet's going to cover it.  Jimmy!
Get STAR Labs on the phone, I want to talk to them about these clones."
Jimmy nodded, and hurried out of the office.  Perry turned his attention
back to his star reporters.  "I'm going to write this story myself.
Clark, I'm sure you want to, but you're too close to it."

Clark shrugged.  "Yeah, maybe."

"You need to interview me, Perry?"

"Not right away."  The editor looked back and forth between them.  "Why
don't you two go into the conference room and start making up rough
notes ... all the corroborative evidence you can think of, that sort of
thing.  Now, get!  I have work to do."

Hiding a grin, Lois stood, and led Clark out of the office and across to
the large conference room.  He closed the door behind them as she
started gathering paper and pens.

"Lois..." Clark's hesitant voice caught her attention, and she turned to
face him.  "Are you sure you want to do this?" he asked quietly,
searching her face, looking for any trace of doubt or fear.  "If we go
public ... it will be a long, hard ordeal."

Lois looked back at him, trying to project her inner certainty.  "Clark
... this will be tedious, but an ordeal?  An ordeal is waking up in
Italy and trying to get back home on stolen money and a traceable
passport.  Been there, done that.  I faced Lex Luthor and lived." She
leaned forward, growing more passionate as she spoke.  "I've travelled
through time, I've been to an alternate universe and back.  More people
have tried to kill me than I can even *count*.  This?" She laughed.
"This will be a minor annoyance."

Clark reluctantly had to smile.  "I can see your point."

"Besides," she added thoughtfully, "this way, I get to be myself.  I
won't have to hide, or pretend..."  She watched realization dawn in
Clark's eyes as that hit home.

"Ah.  Yeah, I see.  Okay."  He stepped closer to her, and she opened her
arms, looping them around his neck as his own arms settled into place
around her waist.  She leaned in, closing her eyes as their foreheads
touched, and they drew strength from each other.

"I love you, Clark," she whispered, pulling back just far enough to see
him.

"I love you, too, Lois," he replied quietly.  "Let's do this."  And with
one final kiss for luck, they settled down to the business of getting
their lives back -- together.

THE END

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Alexis.

I have it.  It's over 200 pages in Ms Word.

Let me know how you want it, word or text file, and I'll send it.

Charlotte
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Question for a fic:

Is there anything in the show that refers to Lois knowing a secret,
sordid
or not, from Perry's past? It would have to be something that happened
before the pilot, not during any of the actual episodes. We all know
that
Lois knows a secret that belongs to Jimmy (JSN), and Pam did a lovely
job
of adding that to "Being Lois Lane," but what about Perry? If there
isn't
anything, I'll just make something up, but it's always more satisfying
to
use something that's mentioned on the show. :)

Thanks,

Hazel

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Hazel, the only thing I can think of is the fact that Perry's son,
Jerry, is in jail.  That, of course, would only work if your story is
set in the 1st three seasons because everyone knew after his son
appeared in the season 4 ep (can't remember the name).  The information
didn't seem to surprise Lois like it did the others.

TerriAnn

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In a message dated 10/17/99 7:21:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Cdfisler@AOL.COM writes:

<< Alexis.

 I have it.  It's over 200 pages in Ms Word.

 Let me know how you want it, word or text file, and I'll send it.

 Charlotte >>

Okay thanks Charlotte! =)  Once OUATIM is *officially* over I will ask you
for a copy.

Thanks again.
Alexis ;-.)
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Date:         Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:19:13 +0100
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From:         Wendy Richards <ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Fwd: Archivist Day (fwd)
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> Here is what I'm proposing: November 1st is Archivist Day.  Send
> your favorite archivist or list maintainer a couple of lines to say
> that you appreciate their time and efforts, or even just two simple
> words: Thank You.

Great idea! All the hard-working people who maintain archives of
various kinds for L&C, who we take for granted most of the time,
should get the recognition they deserve -

Kathy, Demi and Lauren for the L&C Fanfiction Archive
Anne Ciotola for the Nfic Archive
Joyce and Debby for the nfic email list
Dawn and the Lurker for the nfic directory
Zoomway for the most comprehensive L&C site in cyberspace

Anyone I've forgotten? I'd like to get my own list together.

Wendy

----------------------
Wendy Richards
w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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Date:         Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:19:43 EDT
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In a message dated 10/17/99 9:10:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
paounfiloun@YAHOO.COM writes:

<< Hazel, the only thing I can think of is the fact that Perry's son,
 Jerry, is in jail.  That, of course, would only work if your story is
 set in the 1st three seasons because everyone knew after his son
 appeared in the season 4 ep (can't remember the name).  The information
 didn't seem to surprise Lois like it did the others.

 TerriAnn >>

The ep was titled, "Lethal Weapon." =) (Great ep I might add!)

Alexis ;-.)
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DITTO
merry

No Name Available wrote:

> In a message dated 10/17/99 7:21:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> Cdfisler@AOL.COM writes:
>
> << Alexis.
>
>  I have it.  It's over 200 pages in Ms Word.
>
>  Let me know how you want it, word or text file, and I'll send it.
>
>  Charlotte >>
>
> Okay thanks Charlotte! =)  Once OUATIM is *officially* over I will ask you
> for a copy.
>
> Thanks again.
> Alexis ;-.)
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Hey gang!

Keeping with the Great advice KathyB gave the other day, please respond
privately to Charlotte. :)

You can email her at:  Cdfisler@AOL.COM

Thanks
Anne ;)
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Can someone give me the site with the list of NKerth Winners??  I missed the
ceremony yesterday, and I would love to see who won!!

Thanks in advance,
Lori
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Me, too.  Sounds like a smashing event and I was sorry to miss because of
other commitments.  From the responses, sounds like the winners were "the
best".  Jude
----- Original Message -----
From: Lori Llorence <CreoleL@AOL.COM>
To: <LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 11:58 AM
Subject: NKerths??

> Can someone give me the site with the list of NKerth Winners??  I missed
the
> ceremony yesterday, and I would love to see who won!!
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Lori
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The nKerth site is currently unavailable.

Darn, already sent this list to the lcnfanfic list and
knew that I should have saved a copy so I could post
it here.  It's a lot of typing.

Oh well, here goes.

Best Vignette

Runner-Up - Bedtime Vignette Series by Julie Mack
Winner - Until Day Breaks and Shadows Flee by Kathy
Brown

Best Dramatic Nfic

Runner-Up - The Heir: The Healing by Peace and Piper
Winner - tie between Heaven's Prisoners by Demi and A
Shot in the Dark by Sheila Harper

Best Humorous

Runner-Up - Camping with Clark by Kathy Brown
Winner - Love as a Blonde by Sandy McDermin

Most Sensual

Runner-Up - The Dayz Series by Menolly
Winner - Mxysplit/All Mixed Up by Sheila Harper

Best Next Generation

Runner-Up - Tie between Full Circle by Crystal Wimmer
and Love as a Blonde by Sandy McDermin
Winner- Love Finds a Way by LadyBiker

Best Prepilot

Runner-Up - too close to determine
Winner - tie between Carry Me Back to Old Virginity by
chrispat, Mackteach, Nekanuq, tarynCain and zoomway
and
Is It Live? by Julie Mack

Best Original Idea

Runner-Up - A Shot in the Dark by Sheila Harper
Winner - Mxysplit/All Mixed Up by Sheila Harper

Best New Krypton nfic

Runner-Up - THe Concubine by Jennifer Eagan
Winner - The Heir: THe Healing by Peace and Piper

Best Elseworld nfic

Runner-Up - Faster Than a Speeding Bullet by Sheila
Harper
Winner - Heaven's Prisoners by Demi

Best First Time Rewrite

Runner-Up - A Consummatte Revelation by the Gorn
Winner - Winners by Kathy Brown

Best Episode Rewrite

Runner-Up - Sugar and Spice by Doc. Klein's Labrat
Winner - And the Answer Isn't by Demi

Best Tag-On

Runner-Up - Remember Now What We Forgot by Demi
Winner - Sugar and Spice by Doc. Klein's Labrat

Best Nfic Revelation

Runner-Up - Sugar and Spice by Doc. Klein's Labrat
Winner - A Consummate Revelation by the GOrn

Most Original Euphemisms

Runner-Up  A Shot in the Dark by Sheila Harper
Winner - Camping with Clark by Kathy Brown

Best ROund RObin

Runner-Up -What If I TOld You I Love YOu by Demi,
Mackteach and Sharper
Winner- Plan 69 from Outer Space by ChiefPam,
chrispat, PeaceEv, Demi, sharper, and Zoomway

Best Overall Nfic

Runner-Up - Mxysplit/All Mixed Up by Sheila Harper
Winner - Heaven's Prisoners by Demi

Congratulations to all for their well deserved awards
and honourable mentions.

Irene

--- Judith Williams <judithwilliams@PRODIGY.NET>
wrote:
> Me, too.  Sounds like a smashing event and I was
> sorry to miss because of
> other commitments.  From the responses, sounds like
> the winners were "the
> best".  Jude
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Lori Llorence <CreoleL@AOL.COM>
> To: <LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
> Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 11:58 AM
> Subject: NKerths??
>
>
> > Can someone give me the site with the list of
> NKerth Winners??  I missed
> the
> > ceremony yesterday, and I would love to see who
> won!!
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Lori
>

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I think I missed part 2 of Being Lois Lane. Could somebody send it to me?

Thanks!
Shannon
clamar@HiWAAY.net

 "Love can move you to a place inside your heart,
 Where you can feel no evil, acceptance is a natural part of life."
                 - Savage Garden "Love Can Move You"
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At 09:04 AM 17/10/99 -0500, Kathy wrote:
> As a presenter and a ceremony assistant behind the
>scenes, I had thought to write up my presentation speeches, but I hadn't
>given any thought to an acceptance speech.  Thus, my wins last night caught
>me off guard. :)

Here's another "me too" for the thread.. with a twist, of course! :)

Having also been invited to help out in the control booth (The Green Room?
So
to speak.. ;)  The same sort of thing happened to me as well.  I hadn't
written
up anything beforehand in terms of an 'acceptance' speech, primarily because
some people in my line of work believe that to do so is bad luck (not that
I'm
superstitious, mind you! ;)   It was truly an honor for me to have been
recognized last night and I don't believe there really is an adequate way
for
me to thank the readers, editors and friends I've corresponded with who have
supported my L&C writing endeavors over the years. :)

There's something to be said about seeing your name appear in amongst the
many
authors of whom you yourself are also admiring of (and in many cases a
*friend*
of), that makes the entire experience somewhat surreal -- and definitely
exciting! :)

I noticed last night that an affectionate comment was made to the effect
that:
"..The ceremony was taking almost as long as a real awards ceremony!".   And
that was very true...the response had to be that it *was* a real awards
ceremony, and just as anticipatory and exhilarating for everyone who
participated.  :) I'm certain that everyone who ambled up on stage to take
hold
of that 'virtual' microphone, whether to present, or to emcee, or accept an
award, will be able to impart that the stage-fright factor was just as vivid
as
if there really had been a physical stage with a physical audience! ;)

These type of awards (by the fans, for the fans) have always seemed to me to
be
a beautiful testament to some of the best writing I've read, either online
or
offline.  They hold no boundaries up between participants and they recognize
a
kind of freedom in expression and flexibility which could easily make the
"professional authors" of the world a little jealous, IMHO. ;)

They're a wonderful experience to participate in, even if you just come by
to
take a seat in the audience and watch; the level of emotion and excitement
which exists seems to grab at you all the way across cyberspace, no matter
how
many hundreds or even thousands of miles may separate our actual computer
screens. :)

I know I also said this last night, but I'd like to say it again here... As
far
as I am concerned, I owe the FoLCs a debt of gratitude for inspiration and
encouragement in my work as a writer, which I will probably never be able to
repay.   Wherever I go from here in future, I'll always remember that here
was
where I cut my teeth as a writer of fiction; where my first public audience
was, and where I met with the first group of people online who shared a
common
love with me. :)  This fandom has been a freedom and a creative outlet for
me,
for years.. and the knowledge that whatever I've written may have (in
whatever
small way) also touched another person's heart the way it did my own when I
was
given the opportunity share it -- that knowledge is priceless and
unsurpassed
for me. :)

Thank you all so much, once again***
Demi

___________________________________________
Demi aka Demona

nightangel@home.com
http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/
http://www.destinyy.com/boards/

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<html><div>At 09:04 AM 17/10/99 -0500, Kathy wrote:</div>
<div>&gt; As a presenter and a ceremony assistant behind the</div>
<div>&gt;scenes, I had thought to write up my presentation speeches, but
I hadn't</div>
<div>&gt;given any thought to an acceptance speech.&nbsp; Thus, my wins
last night caught</div>
<div>&gt;me off guard. :)</div>
<br>
<div>Here's another &quot;me too&quot; for the thread.. with a twist, of
course! :)</div>
<br>
<div>Having also been invited to help out in the control booth (The Green
Room? So to speak.. ;)&nbsp; The same sort of thing happened to me as
well.&nbsp; I hadn't written up anything beforehand in terms of an
'acceptance' speech, primarily because some people in my line of work
believe that to do so is bad luck (not that I'm superstitious, mind you!
;)&nbsp;&nbsp; It was truly an honor for me to have been recognized last
night and I don't believe there really is an adequate way for me to thank
the readers, editors and friends I've corresponded with who have
supported my L&amp;C writing endeavors over the years. :)&nbsp;&nbsp;
</div>
<br>
<div>There's something to be said about seeing your name appear in
amongst the many authors of whom you yourself are also admiring of (and
in many cases a *friend* of), that makes the entire experience somewhat
surreal -- and definitely exciting! :)&nbsp; </div>
<br>
<div>I noticed last night that an affectionate comment was made to the
effect that: &quot;..The ceremony was taking almost as long as a real
awards ceremony!&quot;.&nbsp;&nbsp; And that was very true...the response
had to be that it *was* a real awards ceremony, and just as anticipatory
and exhilarating for everyone who participated.&nbsp; :) I'm certain that
everyone who ambled up on stage to take hold of that 'virtual'
microphone, whether to present, or to emcee, or accept an award, will be
able to impart that the stage-fright factor was just as vivid as if there
really had been a physical stage with a physical audience! ;)&nbsp;
</div>
<br>
<div>These type of awards (by the fans, for the fans) have always seemed
to me to be a beautiful testament to some of the best writing I've read,
either online or offline.&nbsp; They hold no boundaries up between
participants and they recognize a kind of freedom in expression and
flexibility which could easily make the &quot;professional authors&quot;
of the world a little jealous, IMHO. ;) </div>
<br>
<div>They're a wonderful experience to participate in, even if you just
come by to take a seat in the audience and watch; the level of emotion
and excitement which exists seems to grab at you all the way across
cyberspace, no matter how many hundreds or even thousands of miles may
separate our actual computer screens. :)</div>
<br>
<div>I know I also said this last night, but I'd like to say it again
here... As far as I am concerned, I owe the FoLCs a debt of gratitude for
inspiration and encouragement in my work as a writer, which I will
probably never be able to repay.&nbsp;&nbsp; Wherever I go from here in
future, I'll always remember that here was where I cut my teeth as a
writer of fiction; where my first public audience was, and where I met
with the first group of people online who shared a common love with me.
:)&nbsp; This fandom has been a freedom and a creative outlet for me, for
years.. and the knowledge that whatever I've written may have (in
whatever small way) also touched another person's heart the way it did my
own when I was given the opportunity share it -- that knowledge is
priceless and unsurpassed for me. :)</div>
<br>
<div>Thank you all so much, once again***</div>
<div>Demi</div>
<br>
<br>

___________________________________________<br>
Demi aka Demona<br>
<br>
nightangel@home.com<br>
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http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.destinyy.com/boards/" eudora="autourl">
http://www.destinyy.com/boards/</a><br>
<br>
for the lcnfanfic email list, see:<br>
<b><a href="http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/lcnfanfic" eudora="autourl">
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/lcnfanfic<br>
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At 01:50 PM 10/17/99 -0700, you wrote:

>The nKerth site is currently unavailable.
>
>Darn, already sent this list to the lcnfanfic list and
>knew that I should have saved a copy so I could post
>it here.  It's a lot of typing.
>
>Oh well, here goes.

Irene,

Thank you for posting the winners and runner ups here.  I haven't been able
to access the site all day and it's been killing me not knowing who won.
Every writer should be so proud of their accomplishments.  The awards were
well deserved.  With all this enthusiasm pouring out, I'm looking forward
to many more great stories this year for the millennium nKerth awards night
in 2000.

Regards
Anita

GO SOX !!!
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Nicole Wolke wrote:

>Hey Folcs :)
>awww, what a great party that was yesterday! Even a major netsplit
>didn't cloud the fun I'm sure everyone was having!

I agree!, I had a *blast* last night!

>So, congratioulations to the winners *and* all the nominees and a big,
>big thank you to the organizers of another great IRC-party!

Couldn't agree more Nicky!  Kudos to all the writers, you've given me hours
of enjoyment!

KathR

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Thank you for the hours of readiing pleasure you have given us.  You
writers give more than you receive and we readers appreciate that.  Also
thanks for all the work you do behind the scenes and for keeping the
websites.
merry
truitt22@flash.net

Demona (Angel Of The Night) wrote:

> At 09:04 AM 17/10/99 -0500, Kathy wrote:> As a presenter and a
> ceremony assistant behind the>scenes, I had thought to write up my
> presentation speeches, but I hadn't>given any thought to an acceptance
> speech.  Thus, my wins last night caught>me off guard. :) Here's
> another "me too" for the thread.. with a twist, of course! :) Having
> also been invited to help out in the control booth (The Green Room? So
> to speak.. ;)  The same sort of thing happened to me as well.  I
> hadn't written up anything beforehand in terms of an 'acceptance'
> speech, primarily because some people in my line of work believe that
> to do so is bad luck (not that I'm superstitious, mind you! ;)   It
> was truly an honor for me to have been recognized last night and I
> don't believe there really is an adequate way for me to thank the
> readers, editors and friends I've corresponded with who have supported
> my L&C writing endeavors over the years. :) There's something to be
> said about seeing your name appear in amongst the many authors of whom
> you yourself are also admiring of (and in many cases a *friend* of),
> that makes the entire experience somewhat surreal -- and definitely
> exciting! :) I noticed last night that an affectionate comment was
> made to the effect that: "..The ceremony was taking almost as long as
> a real awards ceremony!".   And that was very true...the response had
> to be that it *was* a real awards ceremony, and just as anticipatory
> and exhilarating for everyone who participated.  :) I'm certain that
> everyone who ambled up on stage to take hold of that 'virtual'
> microphone, whether to present, or to emcee, or accept an award, will
> be able to impart that the stage-fright factor was just as vivid as if
> there really had been a physical stage with a physical audience!
> ;) These type of awards (by the fans, for the fans) have always seemed
> to me to be a beautiful testament to some of the best writing I've
> read, either online or offline.  They hold no boundaries up between
> participants and they recognize a kind of freedom in expression and
> flexibility which could easily make the "professional authors" of the
> world a little jealous, IMHO. ;) They're a wonderful experience to
> participate in, even if you just come by to take a seat in the
> audience and watch; the level of emotion and excitement which exists
> seems to grab at you all the way across cyberspace, no matter how many
> hundreds or even thousands of miles may separate our actual computer
> screens. :) I know I also said this last night, but I'd like to say it
> again here... As far as I am concerned, I owe the FoLCs a debt of
> gratitude for inspiration and encouragement in my work as a writer,
> which I will probably never be able to repay.   Wherever I go from
> here in future, I'll always remember that here was where I cut my
> teeth as a writer of fiction; where my first public audience was, and
> where I met with the first group of people online who shared a common
> love with me. :)  This fandom has been a freedom and a creative outlet
> for me, for years.. and the knowledge that whatever I've written may
> have (in whatever small way) also touched another person's heart the
> way it did my own when I was given the opportunity share it -- that
> knowledge is priceless and unsurpassed for me. :) Thank you all so
> much, once again***Demi
>
> ___________________________________________
> Demi aka Demona
>
> nightangel@home.com
> http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/
> http://www.destinyy.com/boards/
>
> for the lcnfanfic email list, see:
> http://www.onelist.com/subscribe/lcnfanfic
>
> "Sometimes I think I understand everything, then I regain
> consciousness."
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It's on the listserv site.
merry

Shannon wrote:

> I think I missed part 2 of Being Lois Lane. Could somebody send it to me?
>
> Thanks!
> Shannon
> clamar@HiWAAY.net
>
>  "Love can move you to a place inside your heart,
>  Where you can feel no evil, acceptance is a natural part of life."
>                  - Savage Garden "Love Can Move You"
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Same here.  You know, you might want to consider just posting it here, on
the list, in sections if enough people want it.
Just a suggestion.

Tara

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In a message dated 10/17/99 7:21:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
Cdfisler@AOL.COM writes:

<< Alexis.

I have it.  It's over 200 pages in Ms Word.

Let me know how you want it, word or text file, and I'll send it.

Charlotte >>

Okay thanks Charlotte! =)  Once OUATIM is *officially* over I will ask you
for a copy.

Thanks again.
Alexis ;-.)

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Date:         Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:42:52 EDT
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In a message dated 10/17/99 4:37:53 PM EST, nightangel@HOME.COM writes:

<< I noticed last night that an affectionate comment was made to the effect
that:
 "..The ceremony was taking almost as long as a real awards ceremony!".
And
 that was very true...the response had to be that it *was* a real awards
 ceremony, and just as anticipatory and exhilarating for everyone who
 participated.  :) I'm certain that everyone who ambled up on stage to take
hold
 of that 'virtual' microphone, whether to present, or to emcee, or accept an
 award, will be able to impart that the stage-fright factor was just as
vivid
as
 if there really had been a physical stage with a physical audience! ;) >>

Yeah I was one of the presenters and before I went up on the *virtual* stage
i was soo nervous!  I don't understand why.. but even as I was sending out
my
spiel or whatnot my hands were shaking.  LOL!  This was my first time
presentating and what better way to get my feet wet in the world of fanfic
by
participating in something as wonderful as this!  Even though the BIGGEST
netsplit ever happened right before I was to give the winner {me thinks Mxy
or Tempus sabotaged it} i still had fun! <G>

I would like to thank all of the organizers and all of the writers.  I have
a
lot of reading to do as well as writing! <G>

FoLC's are the greatest people on earth!!! {end of mushy stuff..}

Alexis ;-.)
{who hopes her stories will someday be nominated too! ;)}
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Does anyone remember the name of Lenny Stoke's sound weapon in the
episode "Wall of Sound"?  Was a name given for it?

Nan

**********************
I just rewatched that ep today. Thanks for giving me the excuse to do
so Nan. (Yeah, like I really need an excuse.)  Stoke actually the glove
"a little invention I dreamed up called the Wall of Sound"

Hope this helps
TerriAnn

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Date:         Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:58:42 +0100
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S
P
O
I
L
E
R

S
P
A
C
E

If you haven't caught up yet with this one over on the boards, then I'd
suggest making time for it now that it's hit the archive.

The subject matter is difficult, true, but Tank manages to turn a dark
premise which could have been depressing and maudlin into something full of
hope and joy and promise for the future of our heroes. That is an incredible
feat and something I've only seen a handful of writers able to produce.
Tank, I may call on you for advice if I ever resurrect a certain walk on the
dark side fic I've had half written on my hd for months and which may never
see the light of day because I can't find any happy ending in the hole I've
painted myself into. <G> You've given me inspiration though and made me
reappraise my view of what a happy ending *is*.  Not always what you'd
expect. Or even what you'd want. But I admire your courage in holding true
to the story and not giving in to the obvious and natural urge to produce
the rabbit out of the hat, the miracle cure, and all's well that end's well
solution that makes everything okay in the end. Sometimes, it's just nice to
have a more sobering reality enter into the fanfic I read. It's not always
pretty or comfortable, but it makes sense and sometimes there can be a
satisfaction in that equal to that given by any waffy riding into the
sunset. I remember many of my friends expressing much of the same emotions
after watching Witness. There weren't many of us true blue, dyed in the wool
romantics who didn't wish that Harrison Ford hadn't stayed with his Amish
lover at the end of the movie.....but most of us recognised that the ending
we did get was the only one that had any logic to it, regardless. Sometimes,
life doesn't give you what you want most, but that doesn't mean you can't be
happy with the cards it does deal you and I think your story reflects that
wonderfully.

I haven't had a chance to read the archive version yet, so I suspect Tank's
already mentioned this one there, but just in case....some of you may also
be interested in a rather sweet little nfic interlude that our own multiple
award winning, trailblazing ;), nKerth Queen, Sheila Harper wrote as an
accompaniment to Tank's story. It's over on Zoom's nfic boards.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk

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"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H.
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Date:         Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:37:16 -0500
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This is GREAT!!!!  I can't wait to read the rest of it.  J.C. seems to be
even more laid back than Clark.
James
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LabRat, I agree with you, that was a very good story ... except it was
actually titled "Love Disabled" and not the other way 'round :)

S
P
O
I
L
E
R

S
P
A
C
E

> You've given me inspiration though and made me
> reappraise my view of what a happy ending *is*.  Not always what you'd
> expect. Or even what you'd want. But I admire your courage in holding true
> to the story and not giving in to the obvious and natural urge to produce
> the rabbit out of the hat, the miracle cure, and all's well that end's
well
> solution that makes everything okay in the end. Sometimes, it's just nice
to
> have a more sobering reality enter into the fanfic I read. It's not always
> pretty or comfortable, but it makes sense and sometimes there can be a
> satisfaction in that equal to that given by any waffy riding into the
> sunset.

I know exactly what you mean here, Rat.  Sometimes a hopeful ending is
better ... better suited to the story, where a "happy" ending would feel
tacked-on.  I've been thinking about that a lot recently, since my
latest story leaves our heros with quite a lot of work yet to do.  But
the thing is, you know they can handle it from there.  And by working
hard to achieve their happiness, rather than having it handed to them,
they value it more.
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> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
>
> S
> P
> A
> C
> E
>
> If you haven't caught up yet with this one over on the boards, then I'd
> suggest making time for it now that it's hit the archive.

I agree absolutely, though can I point out that the title is actually
'Love Disabled'? I was one of Tank's cheerleaders when he was writing
this story and posting it on the Archives. Though it contains a
major WHAM, Tank really does a wonderful job or bringing hope out of
sadness. (No, it's not a deathfic).

Incidentally, LabRat, Tank isn't on this list, but I'm sure he'd
appreciate it if you mailed him your comments or posted them on the
MBs.

> I haven't had a chance to read the archive version yet, so I suspect
Tank's
> already mentioned this one there, but just in case....some of you may also
> be interested in a rather sweet little nfic interlude that our own
multiple
> award winning, trailblazing ;), nKerth Queen, Sheila Harper wrote as an
> accompaniment to Tank's story. It's over on Zoom's nfic boards.

Yes, that was a beautiful piece by Sheila, and very true to Tank's
original story (which yet again demonstrates how extraordinarily
talented Sheila is). It's now also posted on annesplace, at
http://moveto.nfic.

Wendy
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Date:         Mon, 18 Oct 1999 11:06:18 -0400
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For those of you who have not read Dawn's "What if I Never Left Krypton?",
and it's sequel "Something To Talk About", run, don't walk to the archives.
Both are very good, well written stories dealing with an alternate
beginning.

Also, Wendy's "Penfriend" is a "don't miss" as well.  In classsic Wendy
style, the story is well written. well thought out, and very good.  If you
think Lois was confused by loving two men, try considering how she would
feel if she thought she loved three.

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Date:         Mon, 18 Oct 1999 08:25:13 -0700
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I'd like to add my recommendation to Joy's.  These stories are well worth
your
time to read.

Nan Smith

Joy Sowell wrote:

> For those of you who have not read Dawn's "What if I Never Left Krypton?",
> and it's sequel "Something To Talk About", run, don't walk to the
archives.
> Both are very good, well written stories dealing with an alternate
> beginning.
>
> Also, Wendy's "Penfriend" is a "don't miss" as well.  In classsic Wendy
> style, the story is well written. well thought out, and very good.  If you
> think Lois was confused by loving two men, try considering how she would
> feel if she thought she loved three.
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Date:         Mon, 18 Oct 1999 10:38:30 -0500
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To all those of you who had Bud Mayes send you the reading room stories
-

2 stories are incomplete
   1.  Desert Storms by Meinuk  (email - meinuk@aol.com)
        and
   2.  X Marks the Spot by Brady, CA

I have emailed Meinuk and she responded saying that she had completed
the story and
would send me a copy of the completed story in a couple of days.  I told
her that Bud
Mayes sent the story mass email and to expect more requests.  I also
told her she might
want to think about a mass email.   I have not received the story yet.

I do not have Brady's address and have been unable to contact him/her.
Anyone know the
address?  I tried brady@aol.com.
merry
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> Judas Priest, son, can't you recognise a back-handed compliment
> when you see one?

Oh - well, in that case, thank you, Chief.

> > Seriously, Chief, what do I have to do to be better than her?
>
> That, oh, Temporary Editor, is for me to know and you to find out.

Well, if Lois has anything to do with it I'll never find out... but
then, if it keeps her happy...! I might take your advice on that
holiday, by the way. The morning sickness has been getting to her a
bit.

Congratulations on getting the scoop on MacDonald, by the way, Chief.
That was one great bit of investigative reporting, though it was
pretty risky too. I'm glad everything turned out okay. Superman's
agreed to an interview about his part in what happened, so Lois and I
will get that to you later.

> Heck, neither do I.  Alice and I still have a lot of catching up to do.
> BTW, how old is Lois' mother?  I'm kinda worried about something.

Ellen? Oh... about 54, I think. Has Lois told you she's pregnant?
It's pretty mind-blowing to think that Lois will have a brother or
sister who'll be younger than our own child. Personally, I'm
wondering whether Sam Lane wasn't experimenting with some new formula
or hormone - you know the kind of thing he's done in the past.

Anyway - what's the news on the reconstruction of the Planet
building? I'm kind of looking forward to getting back to face-to-face
working relationships. Working by email's all very well, but it's
weird the way information gets distorted sometimes. Bit like Chinese
Whispers, almost....

Take care, Chief.

Clark

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Hi honey!

I know, why am I emailing you when I could be with you in under a
second... I'm stuck over in the records office in City Hall, checking
out some of those final details we need for the MacDonald background
piece. I know the office is under-funded, but it just takes them so
LONG to locate things! I'd love to be able to zip around and find
them for myself, but...  :(

Anyway, I finally seem to be getting somewhere, so soon as I'm done
here I'll be home and we can finish writing up, Superman permitting.
But there's something I wanted to ask you about... you know what
Bernie told us when he arranged tonight's checkup? When you have the
ultrasound, we can find out whether the baby's a boy or a girl.

What do you think we should do? Do you want to know? I really can't
decide. I know I'll love our child whatever it is, so that's not a
problem. But I sort of feel that if we find out now, that kind of
takes some of the mystery away... you know, when the baby's born,
the excitement of finding out then. What do you think? Would you like
to know, honey?

Think about it - we can talk about it later and tell Bernie what we
want to do.

Yours, bored....

love you, sweetheart, and Baby Kent (or should that be Baby Lane
Kent) too :)

Clark.

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I've seen some extremely eloquent speeches of thanks today from
authors who won awards or were runners-up in Saturday's nKerths.
That's great, of course, and we voters appreciAte your thanks <G>.
But as someone who was merely a voter in these awards, I'd like to
offer a different perspective on the thanks.

Writers like Sheila and Kathy and LabRat and Demi and the nfic RR
team and Menolly, and also those no longer in FOLCdom (Gorn, Debz
Manning), and everyone else who was nominated or won on Saturday -
there is a reason why you were honoured! And that's because the
stories you write, and are still writing (hint, hint!) give us all so
many wonderful hours of pleasure. I think all of us have our own
particular favourites which we like to read and re-read. Thank *you,*
wonderful and talented nfic writers, for all you've given us! You
deserve your awards, your nominations, and the praise you rightly got
in the chat-room on Saturday evening.

I know LabRat's already commented that many of the 'trailblazers'
inspired her to write; I'm a newer writer even than LabRat, and it is
great writers like Sheila, Demi, Chris, Pam and many others who gave
me the motivation to try it for myself. So you 'old-timers' can be
thanked - or blamed <g> - for that as well!

The outcome of the vote on Saturday certainly reflected many of my
own personal picks of stories, though it was so hard to decide in
many categories. Congratulations again to all winners and nominees!

Wendy
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I totally agree with Wendy (not that she needs it) I have read all your
stories too, Wendy and I give you my
thanks.  And to all the great writers that were nominated, whether you won
or not, I want to tell you how
much you are appreciated by this non-writer but avid reader.  THANK YOU for
some great stories and
thank you for sharing your talent thereby encouraging other great writers to
emerge.  You get my applause and
heart felt thanks  (And that goes for you too,Wendy)

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>From: ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK
>To: d.arendt@worldnet.att.net
>Subject: RE: No, Thank *you*!
>Date: October 18, 1999
>
>I've seen some extremely eloquent speeches of thanks today from
>authors who won awards or were runners-up in Saturday's nKerths.
>That's great, of course, and we voters appreciAte your thanks <G>.
>But as someone who was merely a voter in these awards, I'd like to
>offer a different perspective on the thanks.
>
>Writers like Sheila and Kathy and LabRat and Demi and the nfic RR
>team and Menolly, and also those no longer in FOLCdom (Gorn, Debz
>Manning), and everyone else who was nominated or won on Saturday -
>there is a reason why you were honoured! And that's because the
>stories you write, and are still writing (hint, hint!) give us all so
>many wonderful hours of pleasure. I think all of us have our own
>particular favourites which we like to read and re-read. Thank *you,*
>wonderful and talented nfic writers, for all you've given us! You
>deserve your awards, your nominations, and the praise you rightly got
>in the chat-room on Saturday evening.
>
>I know LabRat's already commented that many of the 'trailblazers'
>inspired her to write; I'm a newer writer even than LabRat, and it is
>great writers like Sheila, Demi, Chris, Pam and many others who gave
>me the motivation to try it for myself. So you 'old-timers' can be
>thanked - or blamed <g> - for that as well!
>
>The outcome of the vote on Saturday certainly reflected many of my
>own personal picks of stories, though it was so hard to decide in
>many categories. Congratulations again to all winners and nominees!
>
>
>Wendy
>----------------------
>Wendy Richards
>w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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<fontfamily><param>Times</param><bigger>Hi FoLCs:

Last week, Kathy suggested that I might want to post an S5 review, so
here is what I came up with:

Admiration points for good continuity between writers.  I thought it
might be fun to write something that would have been a challenge to
produce.  Good use of what we know of that was meant to be the story of
the baby started in Family Hour.  Barbara and Peace also had cute
titles for their eps, the first after a favorite movie of mine that
influenced all the HGW/Tempus eps and the second is the title of a
great old song.

No Kryptonite in the future?  Didn't follow that.  Also, I was finding
all the Clarks and Smen hard to keep straight, which would not have
been as hard visually on the series, had it been filmed.  This is not a
criticism because I assumed it was due to how late at night I was
reading and how long it took me to get through them.  I also fantasized
that Lori and Elaine would resemble LL but that was just my
interpretation:)  I thought it a nice touch to be careful about who
said what and to imply that there will be many kids.

I called one set of grandparents Mamaw and Papaw, though we spelled
them without the "w"s, so I was glad to see that for the first time
ever, that I can recall, outside our family.

Terrific cliffhanger at the end of the first ep, when futureClark
collapses and I thought that was wonderfully compelling and a great
surprise.  (I always prefer not to see action coming!)  I mentioned
that his death made the story seem like a deathfic to me, even though I
had faith that he would not really be dead or rather, I suspected that
some of this would be, in part, about preventing that death.  OTOH, it
had exactly the kind of effect one would hope to have in the story, say
just before a commercial, had it been produced for television, so I
admired the pacing.  I thought there were other built in climaxes like
that in both eps.

Of course, this was a logical season opener story.  Don't want to know
if there will be an altClark finds his Lois story later on, but at
least this itch has been scratched (ok, so it sounds like I was quoting
Lex, but I meant it nicely:))1

Nice disguising of Tempus, good use of HGW, nice revisit from Andrus,
cute projections about who's running the DP and Jimmy's descendents.
Poor Eva:(  Clark's cycle had me ROTHLMBO:)

To be fair, in order to really wrap my brain around this or any other
post-S4 story, I would have to give it equal time and read it as many
times as I have seen each ep!  But for right now, I will move on.

Can't wait to read the others!

</bigger></fontfamily>Thanks,

Carolyn

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<fontfamily><param>Times</param><bigger>Hi FoLCs:

After reading a post from March by Sheila Harper (Hi Sheila!)  about
the interview vs narrative types of writing in journalism, I got to
thinking about Clark's forte of writing narrative from the heart.

In season one, including the pilot, we get two examples of his writing
read out loud.  In that and later seasons we get to hear of some of the
topics he has tackled, such as orphaned children and rest homes (Kerth
award winner, right?).

I also thought that it would be a neat challenge for myself to write
that kind of thing, perhaps as part of a fanfic.  This is closer to the
kind of realistic writing of which my mother thinks me capable,
although she thinks it is mutually exclusive with science fiction or
fantasy writing.  I differ with her on this and feel that I have gotten
closer to wrirting from the heart with my writing than she notices,
because she is too distracted by the genre trappings.  Of course, I
write fiction, not journalistic endeavors, but I think you all get my
point.

Anyway, while contemplating the challenge to myself to write items that
Clark might write, I wondered if anyone else might be interested in
wiritng such pieces.  If we had a few of them, perhaps we could call
the collection "Clark's Portfolio" or some such evocative name.

There are so many terrific writers amongst us, that I'm sure we could
come up with some fascinating "articles".  Perhaps we could share them
with other fanfic writers for incorporation into L&C stories.

Or... no one is interested and I'm full of it:)

I'd be interested in any opinions on this,

</bigger></fontfamily>Thanks,

Carolyn

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Two days later...

"Fine, Lara. We might as well get this over with."

"J.C. , stop it. It won't be that bad."

Lara and J.C. had finally decided to their parents about their developing
powers. They both came downstairs and walked through the family room and
into the kitchen. There, they discovered their parents in a passionate
clinch. Lara rolled her brown eyes and was about the head out the kitchen
door. J.C. grabbed her arm.

"Now or never." he whispered.

"There isn't a never, you idiot." Lara retorted.

Clark heard them whispering and stopped kissing Lois. Lois groaned and then
realized that the twins were staring at them.

"Now or never for what, J.C.?" Clark asked his son.

J.C. was delicately trying to tell his dad what was happening, but Lara
didn't want to take that approach. So she helped to hurry him along.

"We can see through stuff and float."

Clark straightened his glasses and Lois' eyes widened.

J.C. glared at Lara. "We wanted to tell you some other way."

"No, you did." Lara said.

"It's okay, you guys." Clark said.

Lois still hadn't said anything. But she did lean against the kitchen table.

"Mom?" J.C. asked, concerned that his usually verbal mom wasn't being
verbal.

"How long have you guys been getting these powers?"

"A month for me and  two months for Lara." J.C. answered.

"We think it's because I'm older." Lara finished.

"We didn't even notice." Clark said in wonderment.

"Have you told anyone else?" Lois asked

"No." the twins answered in unison.

Clark nodded, then took off his glasses, and began to rub his temples.
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Excuse me, but is someone implying that I have something to hide?  Let me
tell you, people, that I've never done anything in my life I wouldn't be
happy to broadcast from the top of the LNN tower.  Whether I always made the
right decision...well, that's another matter.  Heck, if I had my time over
again, I'd sure spend more time with Alice and the boys, and that incident
with the peanut butter jars was...regrettable, shall we say - but I don't
care who knows it!

So don't you go implying that Perry White can't face up to his
responsibilities.

Yours,
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Daily Planet

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I'd like to add my voice to the chorus of congratulations.  Well done, all
you wonderful winners and runners-up.  I was pleased to see many of my old
favourites in amongst the winners' roster, and I hope this spurs you on to
write more fics as excellent as these were.

Yvonne
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Will transcripts of the award ceremony and/or peanut gallery be available?
And will they be available to people under 18?

Jessi
jessi914@hotmail.com

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In a message dated 10/18/99 2:13:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU writes:

<<
 Anyway, while contemplating the challenge to myself to write items that
 Clark might write, I wondered if anyone else might be interested in
 wiritng such pieces.  If we had a few of them, perhaps we could call
 the collection "Clark's Portfolio" or some such evocative name.
  >>

As an avid reader, I think that you have a great idea!  I have often
wondered
why we never got a feel for Lois' writing in the show.  So, maybe some brave
souls could tackle that as well.

Ann
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Reposting this as I don't think Ann meant to send it just to me <g>.

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> Congratulations, nKerth winners.  To quote Wendy,  "Thank YOU "for giving
us
> so much fun and entertainment.  Keep up the good work.
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> Ann
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Want to add my congratulations to nKerth winners.  I'm new to all this, so
have many hours of pleasurable reading ahead.

I also want to join the list in praising Sheila's work.  Reading one of her
stories is like taking a grad class in fic writing.  I had finished what I
thought were 12 pretty good pages.  Then I read "Faster Than a Speeding
Bullet".  Whoa!  Do I have a lot of re-writing to do.   Jude
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I am re-releasing Act I because of some major subtal
changes.  Enjoy.

FIRST DRAFT! All comments and suggestions are welcome.
 Please let me know publicly of any blatant plot
holes.  Please let me know privately of any
grammatical/spelling blunders.

After having done this a couple times here is what I
would like feedback on.

Relationships:
Am I getting them right?
Am I focuing enough on them or too much?

Detail:
Am I going into to much detail or not enough?

Believeability:(I know it's sci fi but humor me)
Does it seem realistic enough given the circumstances.

Personal:
I REALLY thrive from input.  Good,  Bad.  I can take
it.

Title :7 Days of Superman

Author: Mr. D8a

Rating: PG-13

Genre: Crossover

Summary: I don't know what to say that won't give it
all away.  Superman fails to stop the nuking of
Washington DC and gets some help from Frank B. Parker
from Operation Backstep.

Personal Note:  This story, in no way, links in with
Mr. D8a's and Elisabeth's Lois and Clark universe.
This is purely the creation of Mr. D8a's mind...so
beware! (okay there is some dialog help from
Elisabeth)
Copyright Stuff: Lois and Clark and the rest of the
show's entourage are the property of DC, Warner, ABC,
and Joanne Siegel and Laura Siegel Larson.  Seven Days
is the property of UPN.

BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
SEVEN DAYS (Details supplied by
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/9329/SevenDays/)

ACT I

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Wednesday, October 6, 1999
8:27pm EST

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Distant viewers in Aberdeen, Maryland; Richmond,
Virginia; and Gettysburg, Pennsylvania remarked on how
it cast a slight lime-colored glow.  Outdoor
thermometers registered one hundred twenty plus
degrees for over 10 minutes as far as forty-five miles
away in Frederick, Maryland.

Washington D.C. is 20 miles across and it became a
memory in the blink of an eye.  The White House was
the epicenter.  Destruction was swift and relentless.
The fireball created consumed everything in its path.
The White House turned black for a moment before it
was smashed to the ground. The titanium lighting rods
on The Washington Monument melted a nanosecond later,
quickly followed by the monument falling over like a
child's stack of building blocks.  And even those
fragments were pulverized to nothing.  The waters in
the Reflection Pool were instantly vaporized followed
by the Potomac River a heartbeat later. The Capital
was gone, as was every monument in the Washington
Mall.  The statues of Lincoln and Jefferson were
reduced to puddles of molten metal in a matter of
seconds. Tombstones from Arlington National Cemetery
were found fifteen miles away.  Everything  was
instantly seared then shattered against the ground or
each other.  Even the subway systems proved no
protection as all the oxygen in the area was instantly
consumed by the raging firestorm that was once the
nation's capital.  Anything living never knew what
killed it and would never be found.

Three point four million people ceased to exist in
under a second.  Six million more suffered everything
from temporary blindness to second and third degree
burns over one hundred percent of their bodies.  What
wasn't knocked over in the initial outward blast was
brought tumbling down by the massive suction of air
back into the area at several hundred miles per hour.

The farthest reach of the damage was the
Electromagnetic Pulse.  The EMP reached out its
tendrils south to Jacksonville, Florida; Northeast to
Quebec, Canada; West to Chicago; and East into the
Atlantic.  Everything electronic was fried into
uselessness within two hundred miles of the blast.
Beyond that it was varying degrees of burnout and
fluctuations.  Nearly every single aircraft in the two
hundred mile zone came down whether they wanted to or
not.  Computerized trains rolled to a stop and the
brains of millions of cars went dead.  Pacemakers
shutdown and critical systems fail.  Anything
computerized stopped.  Technology just stepped back
forty years.

But even before her Jeep stopped cold and the city
went dark, she knew.  She knew that her love had died.
 She wept as her soul was ripped asunder by the
separation of her other half from this world.

~*~

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Friday, October 8, 1999
4:30pm MST
Area 51
Operation Backstep

+++++++++++++++++++++++

It took a day to find out what happened.  Two days
later they still didn't know how to prevent it.

Project Leader Bradley Talmadge sat at the end of the
debriefing room table.  The group was solemn and
quiet. "Apparently an old SS-5 nuclear missile was
fired from the Isla de la Juventud just off the coast
of Cuba.  Governor Manuel Castro doesn't have a clue
as to what happened.  All missile sites on that island
were dismantled some thirty-seven years ago.  All they
could find at the point of "launch" was burnt ground
and an some slagged metal components."

This brought up Dr. Isaac Mentor's eyebrows quickly.
<Something familiar about that and where it was
found.>

"Has anyone heard any word about Superman?"  This was
from Dr. Olga Vukavitch.

Dr. Isaac Mentor spoke up at this point.  "Star Labs'
Dr. Bernard Klein confirmed the presence of powdered
Kryptonite was indeed found in the radioactive
fallout.  It has been speculated that the bomb was
rigged with Kryptonite and that Superman was vaporized
when it exploded."  This last statement brought dismay
to all faces around the table.  All but Nate Ramsey's
face.

"I've said it before.  We can take care of ourselves.
I knew that alien was going to be trouble the first
time I saw him.  The rest of his people proved that to
be the case!  I for one am glad he's gone.  It was
probably his fault that this happened in the first
place.  The Kryptonite in the bomb proves that he was
probably the intended target all along."

The looks of dismay turned to disgust.  Frank Parker
turned to give Nate a piece of his mind "Of all the
bone-headed, callused and out-and-out-stupid things I
have heard you say I think that one beats 'em all.  Do
you really think we would be having this conversation
today if Superman hadn't stopped that asteroid?  Or
when..."

Talmadge stopped listening to Frank as the phone rang.
 He picked it up and listened.  Pointing toward Capt.
Craig Donovan he said,  "Turn on the television."

"What channel?"

"It doesn't matter.  It's on all channels."

Donovan turned on the TV.  The image of a well-dressed
man in his mid to late thirties was sitting across the
table from his identical twin.  The man the right
started talking first.

"So, Tempus, tell all the kiddies in TV land how you
were able to pull off this amazing feat of brilliance
and daring."

"Why, thank you Tempus for that apt description.  It
was all quite simple really.  It's a tried and true
ploy that gets the good guy every time.  Cunning
villain threatens mass destruction of a city.
Thickheaded hero comes and tries to stop the weapon.
Thickheaded hero gets vaporized by well-placed chunk
of Kryptonite that the cunning villain places in with
the fissionable material.  In fact let's go to the
close up of the momentous occasion."

At this point the screen is replaced with a remarkably
clear still of Superman just before he makes contact
with the missile.  Tempus' voice can still be heard in
the background.

"As you can see Big Blue is still alive and well at
this point.  But let's advance the film slowly.  As
you can see, at the moment he makes contact the
missile goes off.  Normally this would not effect Mr.
Goody-two-shoes but I was a step ahead of him.  As the
explosives slam the fissionable material together it
releases a energy so intense that the missile casing
is gone in no time at all  thus exposing history's
biggest killjoy to the Kryptonite that is mixed in
with the uranium.  The hybrid uranium-Kryptonite
substance released sufficient enough radiation to
destroy his invulnerability.  *There* do you see the
initial wave of energy enveloping him?  It is at that
moment that I, Tempus, was able to save the world and
all futuredom from the most *boring* individual to
walk the face of history!"

The image fades back to the Tempi.

"I understand that your not going to take any chances
this time.  How do you plan to ensure your vision of
the future comes about."

The Tempus on the left leaned back, stared at the
ceiling and closed his eyes.  "In the past I've always
focused on just getting rid of the big, brawny oaf.
But every time Lois Lane has always thwarted my plans,
with a little help from Herb.  Well, I've made sure
that time-traveling do-gooder is out of my hair.  Now
no one will stop me from getting rid of Lois Lane and
their superbrat."

"*Superbrat*!?  You mean that Lois & Superman had a
*child together?*"  The right Tempus slapped both
sides of his face in mock horror.  "What about *poor
Clark?*"

"Duhh!  Clark Kent is Superman.  But you knew that, of
course."

"Of course.  And we have proof- don't we?"

The TV screen switched to two side by side pictures of
Clark Kent and Superman.  Both where pictures of the
men looking to the left.  As the viewer watched, the
pictures were morphed into each other in an unending
loop.  It was obvious to all that the images were of
the same man with different hairstyles and a pair of
glasses.

As the pictures continued to change back and forth
Tempus started to talk again.

"You see if I just killed him he would have become a
martyr and Utopia could still come about by people
carrying on his ideas.  By showing that Clark Kent is
Superman, I destroy Superman's character by exhibiting
his lying, deceiving, manipulative side.  The god has
fallen off his throne and he can't get up!  With the
death of his wife and child I will have won!"

The viewers can see both of them again.  The one on
the right looks at his watch.  "Gee, look at how times
flies.  I have an appointment to see me thirty minutes
ago.  Gotta run.  I wouldn't want to keep me waiting."

Standing to his feet he makes a slight bow to his
other self.  The one still sitting smiled back as a
large metallic doorway appeared out of thin air and
the center part opened like a camera shutter.

"Tah."

Tempus stepped through the door and then the door
closed.

"Well, I have places to go and people to kill."  Then
the screen went dark.  Then Tempus' voice was heard
once more.  "I'll be back for the rest of you later."
The latest news on the death toll and injured started
to scroll up the screen.

"Turn it off."

"I told you that Superman was the target.  Or should I
say Clark Kent.  Imagine, an alien living among us
like a normal person.  Disgusting.  I always thought
Kent was to good to be true.  And that Lane wo..."

"Put a sock in it Nathan.  This is no time for that.
Frank you get to go to Metropolis and find Clark Kent
or Superman.  Get the information you need about this
Tempus character and stop him.  It looks like the past
as well as the future is in your hands."

Everyone gets up and starts to leave.  Frank turns to
Olga and says, "Talk about your no pressure
situations."

"True, Mr. Parker, I do not envy your situation.
However, I might be of some help in dealing with
Governor Manuel Castro.  Cuba's membership in the
United States hasn't always been a smooth one.  I
think that he might be a little more forth coming with
Russian representative there."

"Your right.  I could use all the help I can get on
this one.  Besides, you know I will take every
opportunity to work as closely as possible with you."
This was followed with a big grin.

Olga rolled her eyes and shook her head.  "Does
anything ever get past that ego of yours, Mister
Parker?"

Even bigger smile, "Not if I can help it."

~*~

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Saturday, October 9, 1999
6:30pm MST
Area 51
Operation Backstep - Control Booth

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Frank walks to the Sphere.  It stands nearly three
stories tall and is just as wide.  Its royal blue
color had a disarming quality to it.  But Frank knew
better.  That thing had killed him, split him in two,
stuck him in an temporal loop, and hurt like nothing
he could describe each and every time he took off in
it.  But every time he went back *he* made a
difference.  Sometimes he felt like running but after
all these months he had come to accept the fact that
he could make a difference.  <Besides, how many people
could say that they saved Superman?>

Dr. Mentor turned to Dr. Ballard and asked,  "When
will he arrive?"

"We're sending him back to Sunday, October 3, at
12:30pm MST.  That should give him time to find Clark
Kent and get Olga off to Cuba."

"Reactor at 60%."  This came from Olga.

"Hey Ballard.  Did you get a chance to work on the
guidance system yet?  I would like to at least end up
in the same state as my target this time."

"Reactor at 70%."

"I tweaked it in the opposite direction this time.  It
makes no sense to me to go that direction in the
schematics but then I didn't build the thing.

"Reactor at 80%."

"I'm hoping to land in the city park.  I figure that
that will get his attention.

"Reactor at 90%."

"Frank, you know you are supposed to land as close as
possible to Backstep."

"Reactor at 100%!  Engage!"

Frank hits the red engage button and every nerve
ending in his body is lit on fire.  Amazingly he does
not let go of the joystick.  He continues to watch the
clock unwind time.  As the clock backtracked to
Wednesday, October 6, 1999 6:27pm MST the power
readouts momentarily dipped, the lights flickered and
for just a moment he felt like his brain was going to
shut down.  Then the temporal readout began to crawl.
Instead of hours passing like seconds, they where
taking minutes and with each passing moment the
moments took longer and longer to unwind.  The sphere
was easier to handle but it was like it was mired in
temporal molasses.  Frank looked at his oxygen and
power gauges and began wondering which would run out
first.

End of Act I

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Philipians 4:8

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FIRST DRAFT! All comments and suggestions are welcome.
 Please let me know publicly of any blatant plot
holes.  Please let me know privately of any
grammatical/spelling blunders.

After having done this a couple times here is what I
would like feedback on.

Relationships:
Am I getting them right?
Am I focuing enough on them or too much?

Detail:
Am I going into to much detail or not enough?

Believeability:(I know it's sci fi but humor me)
Does it seem realistic enough given the circumstances.

Personal:
I REALLY thrive from input.  Good,  Bad.  I can take
it.

Title :7 Days of Superman

Author: Mr. D8a

Rating: PG-13

Genre: Crossover

Summary: I don't know what to say that won't give it
all away.  Superman fails to stop the nuking of
Washington DC and gets some help from Frank B. Parker
from Operation Backstep.

Personal Note:  This story, in no way, links in with
Mr. D8a's and Elisabeth's Lois and Clark universe.
This is purely the creation of Mr. D8a's mind...so
beware! (okay there is some dialog help from
Elisabeth)
Copyright Stuff: Lois and Clark and the rest of the
show's entourage are the property of DC, Warner, ABC,
and Joanne Siegel and Laura Siegel Larson.  Seven Days
is the property of UPN.

BACKGROUND INFORMATION.
SEVEN DAYS (Details supplied by
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/9329/SevenDays/)

Act II

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Tuesday, October 5, 1999
8:31am EST
Metropolis
Central Park

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Frank stumbled out of the sphere and ripped off his
helmet, gasping for air.  His first sight is that of
the Metropolis Hall of Justice.  He also realized that
he was quickly being surrounded by people.  His
'landing' had flipped a park bench and knocked over a
sizable evergreen.

"It's alright.  It's just a promotional for a movie."

A twelve year old boy walked up to him and asked point
blank,  "If this is for a movie promotion, then where
are the cameras?"

Frank put on his best smile while thinking up a
plausible reason for the lack of cameras.  A girl that
was obviously his sister came over to collect him.
"Herb!  Stop bothering the man.  Do you want him to
have to do that all over again?"

<Herb!>

"But!  But...!"

"I'm sorry sir.  Herbert is always asking questions
and challenging things."

"That's quite alright miss.  It's people like your
brother that keeps the rest of us on our toes.  You
wouldn't happen to know the location of a nearby
phone?"

Frank's arrival was observed by more than the people
in the park.  Across the street a pair of
bespectacled, aging eyes watched the whole thing
happen.  The years had not been kind to this
individual.  But events had nearly come full circle.
It was time to make one last stop before the circle
was complete, or at least she hoped so.  It was time
to go to Smallville.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Tuesday, October 5, 1999
8:52am EST
Metropolis
Daily Planet news room

+++++++++++++++++++++++

 Clark's head snapped up as he picked up the call that
a huge blue sphere had landed in Central Park.  <No
fatalities, but definitely worth investigating.>
Lois' phone rang just as he was about to tell her that
he was taking off.  The look on her face caused him to
pause.  He also kicked his Super hearing into high
gear.

"... in danger.  Meet me in fifteen minutes by the old
fountain in Central Park.  Be sure to bring that
*super* husband of yours. [Click]"

It was a tossup as to who looked more shocked.  Clark
held up a finger and took a quick Super look at the
day care for Alex and found him quietly napping on his
little pillow and blanket.  Clark next looked at the
old fountain in Central Park to find a thin man with a
short hair cut studying his watch intently.  There was
a loaded gun in his shoulder holster, but other than
that there didn't seem anything dangerous about the
man.  But then again they all looked normal enough, at
first.  By this point Lois had crossed over to Clark's
desk and laid her hand on his shoulder.  He looked up
at her and they were both in agreement.  Clark got up
and together they went off to face the unknown.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Tuesday, October 5, 1999
9:01am EST
Metropolis
Old Fountain in Central Park.

+++++++++++++++++++++++

Lois and Clark arrived at the Old Fountain.  Their
fountain.  The fountain where Clark had proposed to
Lois and Lois had proposed to him.  It seemed defiled
by the man sitting on its edge.  As they approached he
stood up to greet them with a wry grin on his face.
He started to give Lois a through going over with his
eyes, then remembered whom she was married to.

"You must be Lois Lane and" turning toward her
companion,  "*you* are Clark Kent..." his voice
dropped to near whisper as he continued,  "a.k.a.
Superman."

"I have know idea what you are talking about."

The grin started to get bigger.  "Then why'd you
come?"

Lois spoke up at this point.  "We are good *friends*
of Superman and we take personal interests in any
attack on him or his privacy.  What is it going to
take to convince *you* people that my husband is not
Superman!"

"*You* people?"

"People like you.  You make your threats, make our
lives miserable, and in the end you are proven wrong!"

The grin threatened to change into annoyance but
compromised on a flat smile.  <This one's a
firecracker! >  "Let's start from the top, ma'am.  I
did not threaten your husband..."

Lois' eyes rolled up at this point.

"...I came to help him.  I am Agent Frank B. Parker, I
am with the NSA and I *am* here to help.  Have you
ever heard of a character named Tempus?"

"TEMPUS!!" blurted both Lois and Clark.

"Good.  That makes it easier."

"There is *nothing* easy when Tempus is involved.  How
did you find out about him?"

"I can't reveal my sources, but, we do know a few
things.  First, he's here to kill Superman."  Frank
looks pointedly at Clark as he says this.

"Well *duh*!  There's a surprise for you!"  The
sarcasm dripped from Lois' mouth.

Frank gave Lois a look that bounced right off.
"Second, he's gotten his hands on an old SS-5 nuclear
missile that's been juiced up to deliver a three
megaton hybrid uranium-Kryptonite payload and has it
pointing at the Presidents bedroom.  He plans to
launch it from a little isle west of Cuba.  I have a
friend going there now to talk to the Governor Castro
and find out what she can."

"He would destroy a city just to get rid of
m...Superman!  A three-megaton explosion would destroy
the entire Capital!  Hundreds of thousands would be
killed and injured!"

"Actually millions."

"Huh!?"

"Never mind.  Third, he plans to tell everyone and
their cousin that you are Superman.  I've seen the
evidence.  It's pretty convincing *Mr. Kent*."

"He's tried it before and we proved him wrong before."

"Okay!  Have it your way.  And fourth, he plans to
kill both Ms. Lane and your child after having
disposed of *Superman*."

The look on Clark's face sent chills down Frank's
spine.

"Alex!  We have to get back to the Planet!"

"Ms. Lane I assure you your child is fine.  Tempus'
plans are not supposed to begin until tomorrow at
around 8:00pm.  I suggest that we *contact* Superman
and he and I can go to Cuba to deal with this maniac."

Before Clark could finish drawing a breath, Lois
launched.  "If you think I'm just going to *sit* here
while you and Superman tackle Tempus, you've got
another think coming.  Your going to need all the help
you can get and I have had a *whole* lot more
experience than you with this time traveling madman!
This is so typical..."  at this point Lois is going
full steam and starts to pace as she starts to rant
about government agencies and the military mind set.
As she paced it became obvious to Frank that she was
ignoring him.  Frank moved closer to Clark.  He
started to speak in hushed tones.

"I can see why you married her.  No one but Superman
could be her husband and survive."

"As I have said before, I am not Superman.  But I can
speak from personal observation that even Superman
does not know what to do with her sometimes.  I think
it would be best if you let her go.  It will make all
our lives easier in the long run."

"I seriously doubt that?  But you're the expert."

Lois was on her fiftieth circuit on the same spot when
Frank caught her attention.

"Ms. Lane..."

"And further more...."  Lois looked at Frank like it
was the first time seeing him.  "What!"

"I think we should all go.  So how do we *contact*
Superman?"

"We need to make arrangements for Alexander's care.
We will meet you back here in an hour."  Clark got a
questioning look on his face.  "You don't have
anything to do with a large blue sphere that landed on
the other side of the park do you?"

"I have no idea what you are talking about, sir.  See
you 10."  Frank watched them walk off and then looked
for a place to eat. <Decisions.  Decisions.  Well,
there's The Stuffed Croissant; Missy's Deli; the
Kountry Kitchen; or Casa de James?  Must be really
authentic Mexican food there.  NOT!  Einy meiny mieny
moe, into Missy's here I go.>

**

"Clark, you can't go as Superman!  For one thing if
Agent Parker has seen proof of your other identity
then he will not be fooled for one second by the lack
of glasses and your spandex bound body."

"But at the same time if I go as me and  Tempus uses
the Kryptonite against me then everyone present will
know I am Superman.  At least with me going as
Superman then only Mr. Parker will be a potential
problem.  Besides I could give him the full treatment,
if you know what I mean?"

"That dashing grin usually works better on women than
men and from the way he started looking me over at
first definitely proves his hormones fit his gender
type.  Neanderthal."

"In this instance I have to agree with you.  Though at
the same time I have a feeling about him.  I can't
explain it, but I think we can trust him."

"You can trust him all you want but that still doesn't
take care of Alex.  It wouldn't be fair to Jimmy or
Lucy to have them watch him for longer than an
evening."  All of a sudden Lois stopped and looked
close to tears.  Nearly horse  she whispered "Oh
drat!"

"What is it Lois?"

"We were going out tomorrow night.  We've been
planning this for over a month.  Jimmy and Lucy were
going to watch Alex for us.  Now I suppose we will
have to cancel.  It takes months to get a reservation
at Foucault's.  We could be gone for days.  And where
does that leave Alex?  I suppose that you'll
super-speed drop him at your folks, but It will be yet
another time that we are away from him for a long
time.  I'm surprised that he even knows who we are!"

"I know you feel like you're barely there for him
during the week.  This coming from the woman that
spends every coffee break and half her lunches in the
Daily Planet's Early Editions day care.  And you know
how much I have cut back on my 'extra-curricular
activities.'"

"I know you have cut back as much as you can.  And I
know that your heart breaks when you have to ignore a
cry for help.  I'm not begrudging you that.  The world
needs you.  I've never asked you to stop helping
people, and I won't start now.  But I've been looking
at the last two years of our lives and something has
*got* to change.  It's been months since we've had any
time alone, but I still feel like we don't spend
enough time with him.  The hours we keep are
atrocious...hectic...completely unacceptable if we
hadn't been doing this for so long.  I know we spend
nearly every waking hour together but mostly it's
Daily Planet time or commuting time or stake out time
or chasing bad guy time.  Now it's Tempus time.
Combine that with the world's hold on your time and
there is no time for *family* time or us time."  By
the time Lois finished, she was almost in tears.

Clark reached his arm around her shoulders and held
her close, stroking the back of her hair and making
quiet 'shh'ing sounds.  When he first came to know
Lois Lane she seemed like an unstoppable force of
nature, not caring who got hurt as long as she got
what she wanted.  But that was just a façade.  The
real Lois Lane peeked out every once in a while and
surprised even her.  Being around Clark had softened
her and helped her to include others in a heart once
deeply hurt by another.  He took her face in his hands
and looked deeply into her eyes.

"Lois, whatever it takes, I will find more time for
us.  It will involve sacrifices on both our parts, but
I will do whatever you ask.  I will support whatever
decision you make.  If you think we should cut back
our hours I will go to Perry and ask for reduced
hours.  If you want to go back to half days so that
you can spend more time with Alexander, so be it.
It's not like we can't live on just my salary if we
wanted to.  Perry and the Planet have been very good
to us.  I think it's time that they bend a little
more.  You're right, the hours we work are completely
unacceptable now that we have a family and I am bound
and determined to do whatever is necessary to put my
family first.  Even above Superman."  A tear rolled
down his cheek as he said the last few words and the
look on his face said he meant business.

"Let's go home and call your Mom and Dad and see if
they want to spend some time with their grandson.  It
looks like Tempus's days are numbered."

End Act II

=====
Mr. D8a
Philipians 4:8

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society? - Name withheld by request.
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I think a big hand should be given to Joyce Fitch, the middle woman who has
made a lot of your nfic reading pleasure possible, eh?

If I missed a great big gushy, rose-scented, created by Lois (well, picked
out
by Lois), delivered by Clark "thank you!" to her, then I simply add my own.

Thank you, Joyce Fitch, for sticking with the nfanfic list for so very
long! :)

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
glad to know a true winner!
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> I had finished what I
> thought were 12 pretty good pages.  Then I read "Faster Than a Speeding
> Bullet".  Whoa!  Do I have a lot of re-writing to do.

Jude, thanks for your kind comments, but you have to realize that I feel the
same way after reading something by Zoomway or Wendy or any of a dozen
excellent writers (newcomers and trailblazers alike :).  I'm dead serious
here.  I enjoy reading clever dialogue or sensuous descriptions or
psychological explorations--I just can't write them myself.  So I remind
myself that there's value in the spare, active way *I* write, too, and I
keep on writing.

Now that you've just overcome a bout of writer's block isn't the time to be
thinking about re-writing.  Just worry about getting your story, in *your*
voice, down on paper (or in electromagnetic impulses, as the case may be :)
so the rest of us can enjoy a new L&C story.

Sheila
(who is glad FoLCdom has produced so many good writers to feed her
insatiable appetite for L&C fic :)
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I agree Debby - Thank you Joyce for all the wonderful stories you've sent
us.
merry

Debby wrote:

> I think a big hand should be given to Joyce Fitch, the middle woman who
has
> made a lot of your nfic reading pleasure possible, eh?
>
> If I missed a great big gushy, rose-scented, created by Lois (well, picked
out
> by Lois), delivered by Clark "thank you!" to her, then I simply add my
own.
>
> Thank you, Joyce Fitch, for sticking with the nfanfic list for so very
> long! :)
>
> Debby
> Debby@swcp.com
> glad to know a true winner!
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In a message dated 10/18/99 10:21:35 AM EST, jsowell@MAIL.COM writes:

<< Also, Wendy's "Penfriend" is a "don't miss" as well.  In classsic Wendy
 style, the story is well written. well thought out, and very good.  If you
 think Lois was confused by loving two men, try considering how she would
 feel if she thought she loved three.
  >>

I'll apologize for making a "me too" post, but I just had to!  ;)
"Penfriend" truly is a great read, *well* worth the time, but I must say
that
the time really flies when reading this fic!  <g>  As usual with Wendy, it
is
extremely well written and creative to boot.  If you haven't done so
already,
I definitely recommend surfing right over to the archive to read this
intriguing and truly wonderful story!  :)  Kudos Wendy!  Can't wait to see
what you put out next!

Genine
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it was called the wall of sound,

i think..........yeah, it was :)

Heather
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To all those who received the reading room stories - I goofed.
Desert Storms is there in its entirety - but the first part in the story
is really part 4.  The rest of
the parts are in order.

I'm sorry for the false alarm.
merry
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This is for my continuing first fanfic.  Was it ever mentioned in LnC or in
someone's fanfic what the name of the university Clark attended was?  Also
if
it was mentioned, what was the name of the football team he played on?

Thanks in advance.

Alexis ;-.)
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 02:41:34 EDT No Name Available (aww, she's shy....
<eg> <MsLoisette@AOL.COM> wrote:

> This is for my continuing first fanfic. Was it ever mentioned in LnC
or in someone's fanfic what the name of the university Clark attended
was? Also if it was mentioned, what was the name of the football team
he played on? <

Don't think it was ever mentioned in the series (now watch someone
correct me <g>), and various fanfic authors have had Clark go to
different real and/or imaginary universities in Kansas (don't ask me
which were which... <g>). of these, the one I remember most is Debby
Stark making Clark an alumnus of "Mid-Western State U" in her Dawning
series (IIRC), and I have followed her lead in my own writing.

So, as with many things in fanfic, you can do what you like in this
regard. I might suggest that the football team's name be alliterative,
because a lot of colleges do that, or so I believe, or refer to
something appropriately Kansan.

Phil
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   (Or, So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!)
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Wendy wrote:

>I know LabRat's already commented that many of the 'trailblazers'
>inspired her to write; I'm a newer writer even than LabRat, and it is
>great writers like Sheila, Demi, Chris, Pam and many others who gave
>me the motivation to try it for myself. So you 'old-timers' can be
>thanked - or blamed <g> - for that as well!
>
Should perhaps clarify that you missed a word out there, Wendy. <g> Nfic.
Those trailblazers inspired me to write nfic. I don't know who inspired me
to *write*. Since I've been doing that since writing dodgy poetry at the age
of eight (it rhymed, but there wasn't much else you could say about it),
that one's lost in the midsts of time. ;) But it was certainly falling into
Menolly's website by accident and being stunned by the beautifully sensual
prose of her fanfic and, later, catching up on and devouring all that I'd
missed from Gorn and Demi, Sheila and Kathy and not a few others, that
definitely intrigued me enough to try my own pen at it.

And, while we're thanking Joyce, how about those other stalwarts who make
life much easier for those of us who have the technological capabilities of
a wombat with a lobotomy and cheerfully spend hours of their freetime
archiving our fic on websites? Providing more places you can find nfic than
you could probably find time to visit. <G> (I was kind of saving this for
Archivist's Day, but what the heck.)

Take a bow Anne! And Menolly - who has designed and maintained wonderful
sites for both myself and Wendy. (Don't know if Wendy's is quite up and
running yet, but soon if it isn't.....) And to Zoom and Demi, whose boards
have been a huge source of fun these past months. While not forgetting Pat
and Denise (you uncloaked first, guys, so no killer cats or death threats,
please ;), whose marvellous nfic directory site has made it so much easier
to find our way to all of the above.

You guys are the best.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk

PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS!

"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde

"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H.
L. Mencken
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In a message dated 10/19/99 3:39:54 AM Central Daylight Time,
Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK writes:

<< of these, the one I remember most is Debby
 Stark making Clark an alumnus of "Mid-Western State U" in her Dawning
 series (IIRC), and I have followed her lead in my own writing. >>

I don't know if this is any help, but apparently Clark was awarded the game
ball (shown in All Shook Up).  At the top near the stitching it's hard to
read, but appears to say "Game ball awarded" then below that "Clark Kent".
Then below Clark's name, the football reads:

Midwest U. 14
State U. 7

So, I'm guessing Clark made the winning play for Midwest U against State U,
and there's a big "M" on the left-hand side of the football. It says at the
bottom that the game was played at Memorial Stadium.

Zoom
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On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:48:24 -0600 Sheila Harper
<sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US> wrote:

>  you have to realize that I feel the
> same way after reading something by Zoomway or Wendy or any of a dozen
> excellent writers (newcomers and trailblazers alike :)

Huh?  /me picks herself up off the floor. *Sheila* said that?! About
*me*?

Thanks for the enormous compliment, Sheila; I really can't tell you
how much it means coming from the overall Queen - sorry, you're an
anti-monarchist, like me (!), President-in-Chief of fanfic!

Seriously, sometimes when I read stories by any of the people who won
awards on Saturday night I feel as if I need to join Maggie's Fanfic
Groupies club!

Wendy
(who, in her capacity as a University Senator, has just informed her
University Registrar that she will *not* be attending the chapel
ceremony to welcome the Queen (aka Brenda) and Prince Philip (aka
Phil the Greek) to Keele next week, because she is opposed to
monarchies in any shape or form).

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Wendy Richards
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From: The Zoomway <Zoomway@AOL.COM>
>Then below Clark's name, the football reads:
>
>Midwest U. 14
>State U. 7
>
>So, I'm guessing Clark made the winning play for Midwest U against State U,
>and there's a big "M" on the left-hand side of the football. It says at the
>bottom that the game was played at Memorial Stadium.

Well, I suppose that would settle it, but boy! what generic names!  I've
enjoyed
thinking that perhaps he went to the University of Kansas (in Lawrence,
Kansas)
which is where *I* went -- nice to think of him as a fellow alumnus, you
know?
<g>  And since I made that suggestion to Margaret Brignell, that's what she
used in her stories about the childhoods of Clark and Alt-Clark.

Peace

wedding photos at:
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and at
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Any dentists out there? Failing that, can anyone tell me what sort of
qualifications a dentist needs to have in the US?

The sort of thing I mean are the various letters that go after one's
name denoting degrees and professional qualifications, inc. membership
of the relevant professional bodies. For instance, should I ever have
need to do so, I may style myself P.A. Atcliffe PhD BEng CEng MRAeS;
what's the US dental equivalent?

Thanks in advance.

Phil
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Once upon a time, Zoomway wrote:

>>Then below Clark's name, the football reads:
>>Midwest U. 14
>>State U. 7

>>So, I'm guessing Clark made the winning play for Midwest U against
State U, and there's a big "M" on the left-hand side of the football.
It says at the bottom that the game was played at Memorial Stadium. <<

To which Peace replied:
> Well, I suppose that would settle it, but boy! what generic names!
I've enjoyed thinking that perhaps he went to the University of Kansas
(in Lawrence, Kansas) which is where *I* went -- nice to think of him
as a fellow alumnus, you know? <g>  And since I made that suggestion to
Margaret Brignell, that's what she used in her stories about the
childhoods of Clark and Alt-Clark. <

Of course, pre-Crisis, Clark went to Metropolis University, so that
might be another explanation for the "M", except that it doesn't
explain the scores Zoom quoted.

Where did Clark and Lana go in the Superboy series?

Phil
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> I'll apologize for making a "me too" post, but I just had to!  ;)
> "Penfriend" truly is a great read, *well* worth the time, but I must say
that
> the time really flies when reading this fic!

Can I thank both Joy and Genine for this? I'm blushing... I'm really
glad you guys liked this story, and even more delighted that you said
so.

Thanks a lot!

Wendy

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Dear Mr White,

I write to inform you that my dental practice is closing down,
effective immediately. My apologies for the short notice; I can only
say in partial mitigation that I had not intended to desert my patients
_quite_ so abruptly, but the success of my research into my ancestry has
made it imperative that I move on.

>From your last examination, I can state that you should not have any
major dental problems for the next few years. Should an emergency
occur, or when the time comes for your next check-up, I can recommend
Dr L.H. McCoy as an excellent dental surgeon. His office is located in
the Metro Trade Tower complex.

Let me say, in closing, that it has been an honour and a privilege to
have been able to serve as your dentist over the years. My warmest
regards to you and your family, Gran'ther.

Bruce Cavendish DDS

[with thanks to Julie for the info on US dentists.]
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 13:45:54 -0400 Phillip Atcliffe
<Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK> wrote:

> My warmest
> regards to you and your family, Gran'ther.

Gran'ther? Ummm... I'm lost!

Wendy

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Wendy Richards
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Nan (I think) asked if Perry had any deep dark secrets that Lois might
know about ... Perry responded that there were no skeletons in *his*
closet, thank you very much.  Don't let him fool you.

I've been working at the Planet for a long time, and I know there are
some things he'd rather weren't made public -- like the details of the
incident with the peanut butter jars.  Oh, he'd print it himself before
he'd sucumb to blackmail, but trust me, under any other circumstances he
wants to *keep* that secret.

How do I know?  So glad you asked <g> Eight or nine years ago, y'see,
word of the incident leaked out (probably via Underhill, who'd just come
back to town to take over the Star) and it got to be the hot gossip
among us Planet staffers.  And someone -- probably Serena Norcross, it's
the sort of thing she'd do -- dreamed up a prank, and pretty much
everyone got involved.  It wasn't hard to pull off, really ... it's just
that, on one certain morning, everyone brought in a jar of peanut butter
and set it on his or her desk.  We didn't talk about them (much <g>) but
you should have seen Perry's face as he started noticing them.  By 11 am
he was about ready to murder someone, but what could he do?  It wasn't
illegal to bring your own lunch...

He got back at us, though <sigh>  He must have taken notes, because
every one of us was stuck with unpleasant assignments for a week.  He
made me cover -- well, let's just say the regular sports guys have
nothing to fear from my direction.  And he sent Cat to cover a
professional wrestling bout, but that backfired on him, 'cause she wrote
it up as a society event -- you know, what were they wearing, who was
promising to kill whom that week -- all with her usual flair, *and* she
met a new boyfriend.  He got her good the next time, though... He got us
all.  We learned our lesson, believe me.

Well, I've wandered away from the point ... I don't know if Lois knows
any of this; it was shortly before she joined the staff.  Still, someone
may have told her...

Ta :)

Pam in Sunday Features
pjerniga@dailyplanet.com
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>>From your last examination, I can state that you should not have any
>major dental problems for the next few years. Should an emergency
>occur, or when the time comes for your next check-up, I can recommend
>Dr L.H. McCoy as an excellent dental surgeon. His office is located in
>the Metro Trade Tower complex.

Ummm... Either Cavendish has been hopping on the time machine a wee bit too
often and has his centuries confused, or this is some ancestor of the good
doctor's who just happens to have the same initials. :)  Which one, Phil?

Hazel
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Umm - sorry, who's Dr L.H. McCoy, then?

Wendy
(even more confused!)

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:40:17 -0500 Hazel <zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL> wrote:

> >>From your last examination, I can state that you should not have any
> >major dental problems for the next few years. Should an emergency
> >occur, or when the time comes for your next check-up, I can recommend
> >Dr L.H. McCoy as an excellent dental surgeon. His office is located in
> >the Metro Trade Tower complex.
>
>
> Ummm... Either Cavendish has been hopping on the time machine a wee bit
too
> often and has his centuries confused, or this is some ancestor of the good
> doctor's who just happens to have the same initials. :)  Which one, Phil?
>
> Hazel

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Wow!  I like this so far, but I'm going to have trouble waiting for the next
one.  And I think Ramsey ought th be
checked out for ties to Bureau 39.  What a loser!

Nan

> Mr. D8a
> Philipians 4:8
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Somewhere  in the show, I don't remember where, I saw or heard that he went
to
Midwestern State U. so I'd say that was correct.

The Zoomway wrote:

> In a message dated 10/19/99 3:39:54 AM Central Daylight Time,
> Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK writes:
>
> << of these, the one I remember most is Debby
>  Stark making Clark an alumnus of "Mid-Western State U" in her Dawning
>  series (IIRC), and I have followed her lead in my own writing. >>
>
> I don't know if this is any help, but apparently Clark was awarded the
game
> ball (shown in All Shook Up).  At the top near the stitching it's hard to
> read, but appears to say "Game ball awarded" then below that "Clark Kent".
> Then below Clark's name, the football reads:
>
> Midwest U. 14
> State U. 7
>
> So, I'm guessing Clark made the winning play for Midwest U against State
U,
> and there's a big "M" on the left-hand side of the football. It says at
the
> bottom that the game was played at Memorial Stadium.
>
> Zoom
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Wasn't me, Pam, but I'm sure whoever asked it (I don't remember either, but
I havae an excuse.  I have a mental block about names.) appreciates the
info.

Nan

Pam Jernigan wrote:

> Nan (I think) asked if Perry had any deep dark secrets that Lois might
> know about ... Perry responded that there were no skeletons in *his*
> closet, thank you very much.  Don't let him fool you.
>
> I've been working at the Planet for a long time, and I know there are
> some things he'd rather weren't made public -- like the details of the
> incident with the peanut butter jars.  Oh, he'd print it himself before
> he'd sucumb to blackmail, but trust me, under any other circumstances he
> wants to *keep* that secret.
>
> How do I know?  So glad you asked <g> Eight or nine years ago, y'see,
> word of the incident leaked out (probably via Underhill, who'd just come
> back to town to take over the Star) and it got to be the hot gossip
> among us Planet staffers.  And someone -- probably Serena Norcross, it's
> the sort of thing she'd do -- dreamed up a prank, and pretty much
> everyone got involved.  It wasn't hard to pull off, really ... it's just
> that, on one certain morning, everyone brought in a jar of peanut butter
> and set it on his or her desk.  We didn't talk about them (much <g>) but
> you should have seen Perry's face as he started noticing them.  By 11 am
> he was about ready to murder someone, but what could he do?  It wasn't
> illegal to bring your own lunch...
>
> He got back at us, though <sigh>  He must have taken notes, because
> every one of us was stuck with unpleasant assignments for a week.  He
> made me cover -- well, let's just say the regular sports guys have
> nothing to fear from my direction.  And he sent Cat to cover a
> professional wrestling bout, but that backfired on him, 'cause she wrote
> it up as a society event -- you know, what were they wearing, who was
> promising to kill whom that week -- all with her usual flair, *and* she
> met a new boyfriend.  He got her good the next time, though... He got us
> all.  We learned our lesson, believe me.
>
> Well, I've wandered away from the point ... I don't know if Lois knows
> any of this; it was shortly before she joined the staff.  Still, someone
> may have told her...
>
> Ta :)
>
> Pam in Sunday Features
> pjerniga@dailyplanet.com
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I am enjoying this story also, but (you asked for it, right <g>?) I must
admit that you lost my interest in the last few paragraphs with the
guilt/child care discussion between L&C.  It just seemed out of place with
the tone of the fic....fast paced, action, etc.

Kate
(who lives in the DC suburbs and is glad to know that I would be vaporized
quickly)
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Ramsey is a guy you love to hate.  But he has a soft side(it's under his
big toe :-O ).  I toyed with the idea of tying him in with Bureau 39 but
the story is already complicated enough, but you never know.
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Sounds like Dr. Leonard McCoy of Star Trek, but I think you have told me
you are not a fan, right Wendy:)?

Carolyn

>Umm - sorry, who's Dr L.H. McCoy, then?
>
>Wendy
>(even more confused!)
>
>
>On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:40:17 -0500 Hazel <zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL> wrote:
>
>> >>From your last examination, I can state that you should not have any
>> >major dental problems for the next few years. Should an emergency
>> >occur, or when the time comes for your next check-up, I can recommend
>> >Dr L.H. McCoy as an excellent dental surgeon. His office is located in
>> >the Metro Trade Tower complex.
>>
>>
>> Ummm... Either Cavendish has been hopping on the time machine a wee bit
too
>> often and has his centuries confused, or this is some ancestor of the
good
>> doctor's who just happens to have the same initials. :)  Which one, Phil?
>>
>> Hazel
>
>----------------------
>Wendy Richards
>w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:59:09 EDT, Kate Crane <KCrane1865@AOL.COM> wrote:

>I am enjoying this story also, but (you asked for it, right <g>?) I must
>admit that you lost my interest in the last few paragraphs with the
>guilt/child care discussion between L&C.  It just seemed out of place with
>the tone of the fic....fast paced, action, etc.
>
>Kate
>(who lives in the DC suburbs and is glad to know that I would be vaporized
>quickly)

In an earlier version I went into far greater detail on the destruction of
DC and the far reaching effects,  but I started to think that it was far to
grusome to put into a PG - PG13 story.

As to the guilt and child care thing.  You have to remember that this was
first brought up the next evening over dinner.  That dinner will not happen
in this time line.  Lois has been thinking about this for days and the the
canceling of the dinner excalated things in her mind and so the exchange
happened earlier.  It also gave Clark the opportunity to finish the
conversation which he did get to in the previous timeline.

It was a serious enough event that it had to be repeated.  Otherwise I
wouldn't have included it in the first place.  Besides, this frequently
happens in 7 Days.

Isn't temporal mechanics fun.

James

PS: If any of you would like the un-edited version of the destruction of
DC, email me privately and I will send it your way.  If enough of you want
it and think that any part of it should be included in the final draft I
will be happy to do so.
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At 10:21 AM 19/10/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Sounds like Dr. Leonard McCoy of Star Trek, but I think you have told me
>you are not a fan, right Wendy:)?
>
>Carolyn
>
>>Umm - sorry, who's Dr L.H. McCoy, then?
>>
>>Wendy
>>(even more confused!)

Yeppers. Dr. Leonard H. McCoy, famed for his, "I'm a doctor, not a...!"
(lawyer, bricklayer, you name it, he prolly used it)

Don't feel bad, Wendy. I know these things through pure osmosis as a native
American. :) (And really, what should I say? A native resident of the
U.S.A.?)

Hazel
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I think he's referring to Dr. Loenard H. McCoy, Chief Medical Officer of the
first Starship Enterprise, commanded by James T. Kirk.

Nan

Wendy Richards wrote:

> Umm - sorry, who's Dr L.H. McCoy, then?
>
> Wendy
> (even more confused!)
>
> On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:40:17 -0500 Hazel <zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL> wrote:
>
> > >>From your last examination, I can state that you should not have any
> > >major dental problems for the next few years. Should an emergency
> > >occur, or when the time comes for your next check-up, I can recommend
> > >Dr L.H. McCoy as an excellent dental surgeon. His office is located in
> > >the Metro Trade Tower complex.
> >
> >
> > Ummm... Either Cavendish has been hopping on the time machine a wee bit
too
> > often and has his centuries confused, or this is some ancestor of the
good
> > doctor's who just happens to have the same initials. :)  Which one,
Phil?
> >
> > Hazel
>
> ----------------------
> Wendy Richards
> w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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Well, Phil, my dad is a dentist and I am a former dental assistant,
although it has been almost two decades since I was involved in dentistry.
I was also an administrator at New York University School of Dentistry for
four years.

One has to hold a bachelor's degree to enter dental school, and most dental
schools have a three year program, although I think there may be some that
have a fourth year.  Some give the D.D.S (Doctor of Dental Surgery. like my
dad) and some give the D.M.D. (Doctor of Medical Dentisry).  The latter is
a newer invention, designed to make dentists sound more like doctors, but I
digress:)

There is the American Dental Association, although I am not certain that
membership is required.  A license by state is required and there are board
exams to progress to higher levels of specialization (surgery, perio, endo,
ortho, etc.), as well as clinical study programs.  My dad was a Board
Eligible Removable Prosthodontist (denture dentist) when he retired.

I hope that helps but anyone with better information is welcome to amend
mine:)

Thanks,
Carolyn
cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu

>Any dentists out there? Failing that, can anyone tell me what sort of
>qualifications a dentist needs to have in the US?
>
>The sort of thing I mean are the various letters that go after one's
>name denoting degrees and professional qualifications, inc. membership
>of the relevant professional bodies. For instance, should I ever have
>need to do so, I may style myself P.A. Atcliffe PhD BEng CEng MRAeS;
>what's the US dental equivalent?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Phil
>------------------------------------------------------------
> Gravity is a Downer... So let's go flying!
>   -- so sayeth Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk)
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:21:06 -0500 Carolyn Schnall
<cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU> wrote:

> Sounds like Dr. Leonard McCoy of Star Trek, but I think you have told me
> you are not a fan, right Wendy:)?

Ah, that explains it. Thanks, Carolyn - no I'm not. ST tends to come
into the 'sticking needles in my eye' variety of things to avoid!

Wendy
----------------------
Wendy Richards
w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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At 08:57 AM 19/10/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Nan (I think) asked if Perry had any deep dark secrets that Lois might
>know about ... Perry responded that there were no skeletons in *his*
>closet, thank you very much.  Don't let him fool you.

Well, Pam, it was actually me. :) And peanut butter jars aside, I still
need help on this one.

The premise is actually quite similar to your "Being Lois Lane," as I
mentioned before -- I need something that Lois can mention to Perry that
proves her identity. Because of the setting of the story, the "something"
needs to take place before the pilot, as Lois is not around when Clark
first shows up.

The only suggestion I've gotten so far that seems reasonable is Jerry's
incarceration; but really, anyone could do a bit of computer digging and
find that out. I'm looking for something more private and personal. If
nothing exists of that nature on the show, then fine, I'll make something
up. But I prefer "canon" when possible, as it adds extra luster IMO. :)

Thanks,

Hazel

(who is unsure why Yvonne, in her indignation at this apparent aspersion on
Perry's integrity, removed the smiley-face from the subject line)
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:23:29 -0500 Hazel <zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL> wrote:

>
> Don't feel bad, Wendy. I know these things through pure osmosis as a
native
> American. :) (And really, what should I say? A native resident of the
U.S.A.?)

Yeah, I thought a Native American was what used to be known as a Red
Indian!

Wendy

----------------------
Wendy Richards
w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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>Yeppers. Dr. Leonard H. McCoy, famed for his, "I'm a doctor, not a...!"
>(lawyer, bricklayer, you name it, he prolly used it)

Ooooooh! Wow! The first person I thought of, too, Hazel... I'm gonna miss
that guy - De was, well, there ain't gonna be another Bones like him no
matter *how* good they try to be...

>Don't feel bad, Wendy. I know these things through pure osmosis as a native
>American. :) (And really, what should I say? A native resident of the
U.S.A.?)
>
>Hazel

A native resident of the United States works for me :) For now, anyway...

Melisma (who *doesn't* want to recover from her VAFF weekend, dammit! Um,
hi Nancy and Audrey :)
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Hi Wendy:

>On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 10:21:06 -0500 Carolyn Schnall
><cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU> wrote:
>
>> Sounds like Dr. Leonard McCoy of Star Trek, but I think you have told me
>> you are not a fan, right Wendy:)?
>
>
>Ah, that explains it. Thanks, Carolyn - no I'm not. ST tends to come
>into the 'sticking needles in my eye' variety of things to avoid!
>
>
>Wendy
>----------------------
>Wendy Richards
>w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk

You're welcome and be forewarned not to read my next archive story, if I
ever finish it:)

Carolyn
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On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 09:21:46 -0500, James Tull <mr_d8a@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

>As to the guilt and child care thing.  You have to remember that this was
>first brought up the next evening over dinner.  That dinner will not happen
>in this time line.  Lois has been thinking about this for days and the the
>canceling of the dinner excalated things in her mind and so the exchange
>happened earlier.  It also gave Clark the opportunity to finish the
>conversation which he did get to in the previous timeline.

That should read "...which he didn't get to in the..."
OOPS!

James who has such a raging headache that he is going back to bed as soon as
he sends this message.
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Sorry, people, this is a long one, and is going to be posted in
segments.  If you don't like suspense over a couple of weeks, don't read
it.

There have been all kinds of explanations for the baby who appeared
magically at the end of "The Family Hour", most of them involving H.G.
Wells.  But what if H.G. Wells had nothing to do with it?  What if there
was another reason for the appearance of the mystery child?  What if it
was all part of a sinister plot?  Taking that "what if" rather than the
conventional one, I had a whole new set of possibilities to play with.

I have to credit my husband, Charles Smith, for letting me talk his ear
off about the story, and for helping me with several plot ideas and
technical details.

As always, the characters and recognizable scenes in this story are the
property of D.C. Comics, Warner Bros., December Third Productions, etc.,
but the story is mine.

Doppelganger
by Nan Smith
(deimos1@earthlink.net)

Introduction

The room was quiet and dark, although from upstairs there came the soft
murmur of voices.  In his arms the tiny bundle shifted and whimpered
softly.  He cradled it against him, holding it securely.  Now was not
the time for noise.  If he was seen, his connection with this business
would be exposed and that could be fatal.  There were those who would
willingly kill him if his role were discovered.  Safety lay in complete
anonymity.

The dining room doors were closed; he hoped fervently that they would
muffle any stray sounds.  He peered cautiously around in the dimness,
searching for what he had seen through the windows earlier in the day.
Ah, there it was.  The bassinet sat a few feet away from the wall,
empty.  The couple who lived here would be more than surprised when they
discovered what had been left for them during the night.  He laid the
infant carefully on the mattress and tucked the blue blanket gently
around him, making sure that the famous "S" shield was prominently
displayed.  It was the most explicit clue that he could give them that
this child was not ordinary.  Considering who they were, he could only
hope they would reach the correct conclusion.  The other alternative had
been unacceptable.  In spite of his actions in the past, which had been
less than honorable, he could not kill a baby.  But the fate of the
world most likely rested on the cleverness and investigative ability of
the two people to whom he was entrusting this tiny creature.  He had
seen those qualities demonstrated before, to his chagrin.  He hoped that
they would be as resourceful this time.

With hands that shook only slightly, he laid a folded paper atop the
blanket and turned away.  In a few minutes he had left the home and
disappeared silently into the night.
_____________________

(to be continued)
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Yes, Debby, absolutely!

(Carolyn gets to her feet and applauds energetically, while yelling "Brava!"
at the top of her trianed lungs<g>)

Joyce is shaking her head: so that's what she heard:)

Thanks,
Carolyn
cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu

>        ######################################################
>        WARNING! THIS MAIL SENT BY AN UNVERIFIED USER!
>        READER BEWARE!!!
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>
>I think a big hand should be given to Joyce Fitch, the middle woman who has
>made a lot of your nfic reading pleasure possible, eh?
>
>If I missed a great big gushy, rose-scented, created by Lois (well, picked
out
>by Lois), delivered by Clark "thank you!" to her, then I simply add my own.
>
>Thank you, Joyce Fitch, for sticking with the nfanfic list for so very
>long! :)
>
>Debby
>Debby@swcp.com
>glad to know a true winner!
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Thanks, Ann:

>In a message dated 10/18/99 2:13:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU writes:
>
><<
> Anyway, while contemplating the challenge to myself to write items that
> Clark might write, I wondered if anyone else might be interested in
> wiritng such pieces.  If we had a few of them, perhaps we could call
> the collection "Clark's Portfolio" or some such evocative name.
>  >>
>
>
>As an avid reader, I think that you have a great idea!  I have often
wondered
>why we never got a feel for Lois' writing in the show.  So, maybe some
brave
>souls could tackle that as well.
>
>Ann

I appreciate your words of encouragement and your counter idea is
excellent:)

Thanks,
Carolyn
cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu
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The logs for both the #nKerth channel as well as the
log for #nKerthchat channel have been posted to
www.geocities.com/Area51/Meteor/7378/nfic.html

Irene

--- Jessi Mounts <jessi914@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> Will transcripts of the award ceremony and/or peanut
> gallery be available?
> And will they be available to people under 18?
>
> Jessi
> jessi914@hotmail.com
>
>
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Hey LabRat:

>Ann wrote:
>>
>>I'm pretty sure that the Rat is a "her."  But I love the image you have
>>conjured up.
>>She may use pencils and teeny tiny note pads, though.
>>
>And I use Bernie's pc when the lab's quiet. ;) But I write my diary on
>paper. Much more personal. And no chance of Bernie finding it in the hd.
>Wouldn't do at all.
>
>LabRat :)  (I was jilted? I'm moving to the States? Whatever.
>Congratulations Bernie and Carolyn! Whoo! Whoo! That's my boy! I knew all
>those years of studying rat breeding behaviour would give you the right
>ideas eventually. Told ya they could be trained.)
>

Thanks for the congrats:)

>Doc. Klein's LabRat
>labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk
>
>PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS!
>
>"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde
>
>"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H.
>L. Mencken
>
>
>>

I promise to make life easier for you, lots of paper coming your way:)

Thanks,
Carolyn
cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu
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Date:         Tue, 19 Oct 1999 14:01:25 +0100
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Clark,

> Anyway - what's the news on the reconstruction of the Planet
> building?

Ask your wife.  She's the one who's supposed to be interviewing Carlton
about the rebuild.

Perry
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Cat,

> re: the oldest a woman can become pregnant? ---  Ellen Lane has probably
> broken the world record here but, Chief, this is kinda outside my range of
> experience.  Stop worrying and ask Alice!
>

You're right.  I talked to Alice, and you know what?  She couldn't stop
laughing at me.  Told me I was being an idiot and I oughta know better.  I
guess she had a point, although personally I thought she took things too far
when she got that book on human reproduction out of the library for me.

Great Macdonald story, and I'm not surprised he named the boat "Rosebud" -
the guy is not one of the world's great original thinkers.

>
> So Henderson's got everything wrapped up.
>

Ah...with a little help from a certain editor-in-chief.  Don't let anyone
ever tell you the old boy's over the hill!

> Now, about restoring the Planet, and the newsroom decor ....
>

No.  Vibrating chairs are out.

Perry
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Lois,

Where's the Carlton re-build piece?

Perry
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Jimmy,

Good job on those MacDonald pictures.  Looks like we might make a
photo-journalist of you yet.

Now, go get some Carlton pics for Lois' story.  You might take a few shots
of the bombsite as well.

Perry
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Hazel wrote:
> The premise is actually quite similar to your "Being Lois Lane," as I
> mentioned before -- I need something that Lois can mention to Perry that
> proves her identity. Because of the setting of the story, the "something"
> needs to take place before the pilot, as Lois is not around when Clark
> first shows up.
>

Wish I could help you Hazel, but I'm stumped.

> (who is unsure why Yvonne, in her indignation at this apparent aspersion
on
> Perry's integrity, removed the smiley-face from the subject line)
>

Only because I was typing it from memory :)  I've just started this rule
whereby I delete as many messages as possible after I read them, and it
wasn't until I'd deleted everything on this thread that I thought of sending
this post.  It was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek: sorry if it came across
as anything else.

Yvonne
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Well, Nan, you've got me hooked :)  Who is this 'he'?  I read various
comments about possible comic continuity over on Zoom's boards, but I'm
blissfully ignorant of the comics, so it will be one big surprise for me.
Keep it coming <g>.

BTW, are you sending Dagger3 up to the archive?

Yvonne
(yconnell@ukf.net)
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Wendy wrote:

> Gran'ther? Ummm... I'm lost!
>
>

So am I, and since I've got to respond to this, I *need* to know <g>.

Yvonne
(yconnell@ukf.net)
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Debby Stark wrote:

>I think a big hand should be given to Joyce Fitch, the middle woman who has
>made a lot of your nfic reading pleasure possible, eh?

Abso-blumin-lutely! <applause, applause>  Take a bow, Joyce!

>If I missed a great big gushy, rose-scented, created by Lois (well, picked
>out
>by Lois), delivered by Clark "thank you!" to her, then I simply add my own.

LOL, I'm soo jealous, flowers from Lois and Clark!  You certainly deserve
them Joyce. ;^)

>Thank you, Joyce Fitch, for sticking with the nfanfic list for so very
>long! :)

Hear, hear!  Kudos Joyce, you do a *Super* job.

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Date:         Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:25:26 EDT
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>Umm - sorry, who's Dr L.H. McCoy, then?
>
>Wendy
>(even more confused!)

Dr. Leonard H. McCoy, Star Ship Enterprise...

Kath
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Hi

I'm sure that I'm a little tardy in posting my thanks for all the
feedback I got for my story, So... That's What You've Been Hiding --
I can't believe how quickly threads come and go -- but I just wanted
to let you know how much I've appreciated it.  I've had more comments
about this story than about any other that I've written, so I guess I
must have done something right!  Apologies to not replying to
everyone personally.  I hope you'll forgive me for that.

Particular mention should go to Phil who pointed out an angle that
I'd missed.  I'd hoped that I'd managed to convey the fact that he
*was* feeling guilty, or at least very awkward,  because he was
kissing Lois when the bomb's was activated.  But I certainly missed
the whole parallel with Contact.  I quite agree that Clark could have
been feeling even more guilty than I made him, given what he was
doing at the time of Mayson's death, but I think I'll leave the story
as is. How much angst can the guy take at one go? ;)

Anyway, thanks once again.

Chris
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I was watching "Any Day Now" Sunday night when Annie Potts' character said,
"Men.  You can't live with 'em; you can't shoot 'em."  This was a line
uttered by Veronica Kipling in "When Irish Eyes Are Killing".  I always
thought it was a character line used to show that she was a couple of olives
short of a relish tray.  Now I wonder?  Is it some sort of slang that young
people use or is there an LNC connection?  I missed the writing credits on
the episode, but  of course the series was  created by Deborah Joy Levine
and Nancy Miller.  Any ideas?  Jude
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In a message dated 10/19/99 3:49:01 PM Central Daylight Time,
judithwilliams@PRODIGY.NET writes:

<< I was watching "Any Day Now" Sunday night when Annie Potts' character
said,
 "Men.  You can't live with 'em; you can't shoot 'em."  This was a line
 uttered by Veronica Kipling in "When Irish Eyes Are Killing".  I always
 thought it was a character line used to show that she was a couple of
olives
 short of a relish tray.  Now I wonder?  Is it some sort of slang that young
 people use or is there an LNC connection?  I missed the writing credits on
 the episode, but  of course the series was  created by Deborah Joy Levine
 and Nancy Miller.  Any ideas?  >>

There are a lot of tag lines to the old saying "Men (women) can't live with
them, can't live without them"  The strangest one I ever heard was on
Newhart. "Women, can't live with 'em, can't stuff 'em in a sack".

The other type of gag line "two olives short of a relish tray" is similar to
"not playing with a full deck" "a few grapes shy of a bunch" "a taco short
of
a combo plate" "the elevator doesn't go all the way to the penthouse", etc.
They indicate eccentricity, craziness or stupidity. My personal favorite is
"somewhere a village is missing its idiot" <g>

In a message dated 10/19/99 8:51:51 AM Central Daylight Time,
deimos1@EARTHLINK.NET writes:

<< Somewhere  in the show, I don't remember where, I saw or heard that he
went to
 Midwestern State U. so I'd say that was correct. >>

Well, there really is a Midwestern State University, though ironically it's
located in Texas, which is not considered a Midwestern state (go figure ;)
While I'd be proud if Clark went to school in Texas, I don't really think he
was an MSU Indian. However, since it is also used for the Dallas Cowboys
training camp, it could hold a certain fascination for Clark <g>

With Midwest University, it could be by specific state, for example, there
is
Midwest University of Wisconsin. Clark could have gone to Midwest University
of Kansas (if it existed, but who really wants to admit they went to MUK? ;)
As far as I know there really isn't a "Midwest University" by that name
only,
and that might be exactly why the series chose that name to put on the
football.

Zoom (or how about "Kent State", we could invent a football team for the
business college ... Home of the fighting FAX ... go team! ;)
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Jude,

I don't know where the line originated but I do know
that it wasn't original to LnC.  I had heard it before
many times as well as its variation about women.

Irene

--- Judith Williams <judithwilliams@PRODIGY.NET>
wrote:
> I was watching "Any Day Now" Sunday night when Annie
> Potts' character said,
> "Men.  You can't live with 'em; you can't shoot
> 'em."  This was a line
> uttered by Veronica Kipling in "When Irish Eyes Are
> Killing".  I always
> thought it was a character line used to show that
> she was a couple of olives
> short of a relish tray.  Now I wonder?  Is it some
> sort of slang that young
> people use or is there an LNC connection?  I missed
> the writing credits on
> the episode, but  of course the series was  created
> by Deborah Joy Levine
> and Nancy Miller.  Any ideas?  Jude
>

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Dr. Leonard 'Bones' McCoy!  You gotta love him!  He was always my favorite
character in the original series!  I liked him better than Spock or Kirk.

Tara
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>Umm - sorry, who's Dr L.H. McCoy, then?
>
>Wendy
>(even more confused!)

Dr. Leonard H. McCoy, Star Ship Enterprise...

Kath
(Trekkie, but *only* the original!)

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Date:         Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:24:18 +1000
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Since no-one else seems to have answered this one yet...

At 12:13 PM 19/10/99 -0400, Phillip Atcliffe wrote:
<snip>
>Where did Clark and Lana go in the Superboy series?

In the TV Series, they attended Shuster University.  I don't think that
Clark was shown as attending university in the comics post-Crisis - his
origins were revealed to him by his dad at the end of High School, he
revealed himself (figuratively speaking) to Lana right away, and then left.
 There's probably been a mini-series dealing with the in-between years, but
I can't recall the name of the University.  Maybe someone could look up the
stories where he encountered Lori Lemaris (the mermaid) in post-Crisis
continuity?

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In a message dated 10/19/99 4:24:51 PM Central Daylight Time,
jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes:

<< Maybe someone could look up the
 stories where he encountered Lori Lemaris (the mermaid) in post-Crisis
 continuity? >>

It's in Superman #12 (Dec 87).  In narrator mode, Clark says "I was a senior
at the University of Metropolis".  I hate the Lori Lemaris story line,
because it sort of forever after makes Lois the "second" choice. Had Lori
accepted Clark's proposal, we would have been watching Lori and Clark The
Undersea Adventures of Superman.

Join us on a very special episode of Lori and Clark. It's their honeymoon,
but will Clark have a chance to .. fertilize the silt bed? Stay tuned.

Zoom (yeesh)
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Hi FoLCs,

Joy wrote:

> For those of you who have not read Dawn's "What if I Never Left Krypton?",
> and it's sequel "Something To Talk About", run, don't walk to the
archives.
> Both are very good, well written stories dealing with an alternate
> beginning.
>
> Also, Wendy's "Penfriend" is a "don't miss" as well.  In classsic Wendy
> style, the story is well written. well thought out, and very good.  If you
> think Lois was confused by loving two men, try considering how she would
> feel if she thought she loved three.

Nan wrote:

> I'd like to add my recommendation to Joy's.  These stories are well worth
your
> time to read.

Thank you, Joy and Nan!  I appreciate the recommendations!  And as LabRat
has mentioned, I too cringe at self-promotion, but several have asked about
part 3 (the final segment).  I hope to have it out this week.  NKerths
slowed me down a bit <g>

Jessi asked:

> Will transcripts of the award ceremony and/or peanut gallery be available?
> And will they be available to people under 18?

Yes to both.  Geocities should now be up and running and the logs are
available there, thanks to our webmistress <g>.  Or you can email me
directly for those.

Thanks!
Dawn
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I would like to say thank you to all the wonderful talented people that work
so hard keeping and maintaining all
the archives (fanfic, nfic, S5&S6)  You are more care givers than caretakers
and I appreciate all that your do.

Also, thank you to all the devoted people that keep there sites going, just
so people like me can always find a
L&C adventure.  Zoom-Demi-Erin-Anne-Sandy-Pam  to name a few that I visit
regularly.

Thank you to Zoom and Demi for the amazing job they do keeping the boards up
and flying.

And a special thank you to Vicki for keeping me informed by working so hard
on TCC.

Thank you Joyce;  she works overtime sending me stories.  You're the best.

To all of you, I kneel in appreciation.  Your dedication and hard work means
more than a non-writer can put into
words.

Brenda
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At 2:08 PM -0500 10/18/99, Carolyn Schnall wrote:

> Don't want to know if there will be an altClark finds his Lois story
>later on,

You don't?  Darn. ;)  OK, I won't tell you. <g>

Kathy (not even whispering episode numbers ;))

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Hi Sweetheart,

Sorry you're stuck in a stuffy record hall.  You know, honey, sometimes
this job isn't quite as much fun as it used to be and right now I am
chomping at the bit to take that little vacation you've promised me.  Whe=
re
do you think we should go?  Hawaii sounds nice, sandy beaches, a hut by t=
he
ocean with any kind of bed that you like..... and we never did take our
honeymoon there.  Or maybe a cabin in the mountains.  Lovely scenery,
starry skies and the two of us by a roaring log fire........ and no screa=
ms
of 'Help Superman' to distract you.....mmm sounds wonderful.

Clark, I'm not sure, because this is all new to me, but I don't think tha=
t
even Star Labs has the technology to determine the sex of our baby yet. =

I'm only about 6 weeks along and I think we might have to wait a bit for
that.  Besides, I don't think I want to know.  We'll love this baby equal=
ly
whether its a boy or girl and I'm not going to bring a child into this
world and saddle it with the hangups of thinking they're the wrong sex. =

I know that you're not my father and that you'll love our child to bits a=
nd
be a great Daddy.  So I'd rather wait until the birth to know whether our=

baby will be super boy or girl.

Talk about 'how the mighty have fallen'; since news of Macdonald's arrest=

hit the street the phone's never stopped ringing.   I've been contacted b=
y
a number of sources with stories of how he's cheated and manipulated them=
. =

Of course, some of them might be just business associates airing their
grievances but I think that there are a number of genuine victims who've
suffered at his corporate hands.   From what I can tell he liked takeover=

bids and he wasn't above using illegal means when all else failed but  hi=
s
targets were either too scared or had no proof to accuse him and now
they're eager to take their revenge.

Anyway, come home soon because we have a mountain of stuff to get through=

before we write this up and I'd like to finish this off asap and then we
can go on our romantic break.  Who knows, when we get back perhaps the
Planet building will be ready for us to relocate.  This email stuff has
been an experience but I can't wait to get back to the newroom.  There's
something about a hectic newspit....... about the smell of ink in the
morning..... well you know what I mean....... you feel it too.  It's one =
of
the reasons why we're a team.......... and if you're a very good partner
and hurry home I'll show you a number of other reasons why we're...... so=

very good together.....  stronger than one alone.

All our love,
Lois and Baby Kent.
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Hey Chief,

Give a pregnant woman a break.  Hah!  I bet you thought you'd never hear =
me
say that. <g>

Seriously, I'm finding writing more than one story at a time a little
harder than I used to.  I'm told that the first few months of pregnancy a=
re
difficult and that it should get better, at least that's what your wife
tells me.  If I could just get rid of the morning sickness.  =

You did hear that I had to excuse myself when I was interviewing Carlton?=
 =

Perry, I'm not sure who was more embarrassed when I turned green and spit=

up all over his fancy cream furniture.  Well it really was all his fault,=

if he persists in drowning himself in that obnoxious smelling aftershave.=
 =

I guess he must have forgiven me, though, because we rescheduled the
interview and I've attached the write up.  Sorry it took a little longer
than normal.

Chief, when the MacDonald piece is done I'd be grateful if you could
arrange for Clark and me to take time off.  Clark did a great job coverin=
g
for you when you were away and my doctor tells me that I should avoid
stress...... Oy!  Maybe I should try another career?

Only kidding, Chief.

See ya, Lois =
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<<No.  Vibrating chairs are out.>>

LOL -- I'm speechless !

Carol
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In a message dated 10/18/99 9:49:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Debby@SWCP.COM
writes:

<< I think a big hand should be given to Joyce Fitch, the middle woman who
has
 made a lot of your nfic reading pleasure possible, eh? >>

Absolutely!  Brava, Joyce, and thank you very much.  Thanks  also to Anne,
Demi, and everyone else who maintain sites, lists, archives, etc.

Ann
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well, the first time I ever heard this line was in that lovely old 80's brat
pack movie,
St. Elmo's Fire... a 'coming of age' movie about self-indulgent recent
college graduates that, yes, I admit was one of my favorites when it came
out  :)  thank goodness my taste has improved.  Though I have always loved
that line...

cerise

Judith Williams wrote:

>I was watching "Any Day Now" Sunday night when Annie Potts' character said,
>"Men.  You can't live with 'em; you can't shoot 'em."  This was a line
>uttered by Veronica Kipling in "When Irish Eyes Are Killing".  I always
>thought it was a character line used to show that she was a couple of
olives
>short of a relish tray.  Now I wonder?  Is it some sort of slang that young
>people use or is there an LNC connection?  I missed the writing credits on
>the episode, but  of course the series was  created by Deborah Joy Levine
>and Nancy Miller.  Any ideas?  Jude
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In a message dated 10/19/99 5:12:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Zoomway@AOL.COM
writes:

<< (or how about "Kent State", we could invent a football team for the
 business college ... Home of the fighting FAX ... go team! ;) >>

Hey, there is a Kent State -- up in northern Ohio near Akron.  Some of my
high school classmates went there.  They used to have a football team.  I
don't know if they still do however.

Ann
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In a message dated 10/19/99 9:37:33 AM EST, ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK writes:

<< Ah, that explains it. Thanks, Carolyn - no I'm not. ST tends to come
 into the 'sticking needles in my eye' variety of things to avoid!

 Wendy
 ----------------------
 Wendy Richards
 w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk >>

I hear ya Wendy!  The only way I figured out who Phil was talking about was
because my friend is a HUGE TREKKIE so i get to hear about all of these
people all of time whether I want to or not! ;p~

Alexis ;-.)
{who figures we are friends because she puts up with my LnC babbling from
time to time too! =)}
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In a message dated 10/19/99 4:34:02 PM EST, Zoomway@AOL.COM writes:

<< Join us on a very special episode of Lori and Clark. It's their
honeymoon,
 but will Clark have a chance to .. fertilize the silt bed? Stay tuned.

 Zoom (yeesh)
  >>

ROTFL!  It's funny but I second that yeesh! ;p~  Thank goodness for Lois and
Clark and a honeymoon WHERE they didn't need a *waterbed* figuratively
speaking of course!

Alexis ;-.)
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In a message dated 10/19/99 4:12:25 PM EST, Zoomway@AOL.COM writes:

<< Zoom (or how about "Kent State", we could invent a football team for the
 business college ... Home of the fighting FAX ... go team! ;)
  >>

LOL! I like it Zoom! <G>

Hey thanks to everyone for your feedback.  I am more of a traditionalist, so
i think i will go with Zoom and use the name that was on the football Clark
smelled in "ASU".

Thanks.
Alexis ;-.)
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In a message dated 10/19/99 8:23:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Aerm1@AOL.COM
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<< ey, there is a Kent State -- up in northern Ohio near Akron.  Some of my
 high school classmates went there.  They used to have a football team.  I
 don't know if they still do however. >>

yep they do.. they are the kint state golden flashes :)

A lot of my hs classmates went there

Alicia
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At 12:13 PM 10/19/1999 -0400, you wrote:

 [snip]

>Of course, pre-Crisis, Clark went to Metropolis University, so that
>might be another explanation for the "M", except that it doesn't
>explain the scores Zoom quoted.
>
>Where did Clark and Lana go in the Superboy series?

behind the Dairy Queen?
>
>Phil

Debby
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Somewhere in Metropolis.

     Carter smiled. He'd finally completed the first part of his plan. The
janitor would be paid well for his help. And if the janitor got it in his
head to tell anyone of  Carter's plans, the janitor would have to be
eliminated. It was as simple as that. Carter looked into a nearby mirror and
admired Mr.Asabi's handiwork. Sixteen years ago, Carter L. Andrews was known
as Lex Luthor. Years ago, Lex had kidnapped Lois and attempted to brainwash
her, so that could have possession of her. But  the plan failed and Superman
took Lois from him again. Asabi found Lex, close to death after Superman had
taken Lois, and so, Asabi decided to  transfer Lex's soul to the body of the
clone. Lex's soul was transferred to an 'A class' clone. That meant that Lex
would live for 100 years. But all that Carter wanted to do was to carry out
his plan and if it took 100 years,that was fine with him. Seventeen years
been a long time and Lex Luthor was not a patient man. For years, Lex had
waited for the right window to open so that he could carry out a plan to
destroy Superman and Clark Kent again. Lex had even gotten a voice coach, so
that he could get the  voice of a teenager instead of the voice of a
middle-aged man. He'd hired people to pose as his parents so that he wouldn'
t look suspicious with all the money that he'd acquired. He was glad that he
had been resourceful enough to get people that would co-operate with him.
But those people had no other choice. None of them wanted to die and none of
them wanted to lose the steady income that they were receiving.
     Now Carter knew that Kent and Lane had gotten married and had two
children. He couldn't believe that they had children at all, not after he
went through all the trouble of having one of his men at S.T.A.R. Labs taint
Superman's records. But Kent and Lois  had children anyway.  Twins, as a
matter of fact.  The children could be very valuable to Carter, especially
the girl, Lara. If the girl was anything like her mother, it would be a very
easy task. And since Carter knew that Clark was Superman, he could blackmail
him if anyone got in the way of his plans. On Monday, the second part of his
plan would be enacted. Carter looked at the photos again. The children
definitely belonged to Lois and Kent. But now, they would belong to him.
Carter smiled again. It was the smile of Lex Luthor.

Chapter Four

That night  on 348 Hyperion Avenue.

Clark Kent and Lois Lane Kent were in bed, reading. But Clark knew that Lois
had the book, so that she wouldn't have to discuss that day's events.
 "Lois?"

"Yes, honey?"

"What's that book about?"

"It's about the controversy of spraying for fruit flies in residential
areas."

"Lois, we have to talk about this."

"About what?"

"How did you feel when the kids told us that they were developing powers."

Lois put the book down and wondered why Clark even had literature like that
in the house. "I was shocked at first. I mean, they're only sixteen. You
were eighteen when you started getting them weren't you?"

"I was flying in high school and floating. But my powers weren't fully
developed until I was eighteen. But the kids are starting a lot slower than
I did."

"I hate you." Lois said with a wry grin on her face.

"I love you too, honey. I think we'd better see how far Lara and J.C. have
gotten with their powers."

Lois nodded. "Do you think it'll be hard for them like it was for you?
Having to hide everything  that was Kryptonian about you?

"I don't think it will be as hard. They have each other and us."
Lois sat up in the bed. "No, they have each other and you."

"They have you too honey. You're their mother. And you understand having
powers just as well as I do."

"UltraWoman?"

"Exactly."

"I love you Clark, even though it's your fault that our kids will be bench
pressing refrigerators."

"I love you too. And we'll deal with this together. As a family."

Chapter Five

Sixteen years ago.

"What was that all about?" Clark asked his wife. He had just seen an
exchange between Lois and his mother and he hated being left in the dark.

"Girl talk." Lois explained, but somehow, that didn't explain anything. She
told him that she would tell him about it upstairs.

"Why upstairs?"

"Guess." Lois grabbed the end of Clark's tie and began to pull him up the
stairs by his tie. Once they got to the doorway of their bedroom, Lois let
go of his tie. Clark brought his head close to Lois, so that he could kiss
her. But she stopped his head midway.

"I have something to tell you."

Clark got worried and Lois could tell by the expression on his face.

"Clark, don't look so worried. This is good news. Especially for you."

"What is it?"

"Remember when I told you that I didn't know if I wanted to have kids?"

Clark nodded, hoping this was going where he hoped it was going.

"I want children. I want your children. I know it'll be hard work, but we
can be great parents, together."

All the sudden Clark launched himself at her and Lois was pinned against the
wall.
He kissed her in a way that showed Lois just how good the news was.

Lois gasped when Clark began kissing her neck. "Clark?"

Clark stopped for moment. "Yes?" he asked, breathing heavily.

"I take it that you want to start practicing now?"

For the next three hours, Clark told her that his answer had been yes.

Two months later, Dr. Klein told Superman that he was incompatible with a
earthwoman for reproduction. Then a month later, Dr.Klein was proven
wrong,because Lois became pregnant. And then Lois and Clark found out they
were going to be the parents of twins. When the twins arrived, Lois and
Clark named the girl Lara Elaine Kent and the boy Jonathan Clark Kent.
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In a message dated 10/19/99 8:46:20 PM EST, Debby@SWCP.COM writes:

<< behind the Dairy Queen?
 >
 >Phil

 Debby
 Debby@swcp.com >>

ROTFLMAO!  This thread is making me laugh so much!  Thank you!!!! =)

Alexis ;-.)
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I'm sorry I missed the NKerth festivities, but I would like to express a
hearty "you're welcome" for the thanks expressed for my work.

I'm sure all those who have sites that house the stories would agree with
me that it is a pleasure to be a part of dispersing such high quality work
(and delightful reading, of course)!  I'm sorry that with so many 100's of
requests, at times the turnaround from request to sending stories wasn't as
fast as I'd have liked it to be.  And to the authors' credit, the requests
are still coming in strong.

I'm hoping that the NKerths will bring out even more authors and more
stories!  So keep 'em coming ...<g>

Joyce

>I think a big hand should be given to Joyce Fitch, the middle woman who has
>made a lot of your nfic reading pleasure possible, eh?
>
>If I missed a great big gushy, rose-scented, created by Lois (well, picked
out
>by Lois), delivered by Clark "thank you!" to her, then I simply add my own.
>
>Thank you, Joyce Fitch, for sticking with the nfanfic list for so very
>long! :)
>
>Debby
>Debby@swcp.com
>glad to know a true winner!
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Thanks Irene
merry

Irene D. wrote:

> The logs for both the #nKerth channel as well as the
> log for #nKerthchat channel have been posted to
> www.geocities.com/Area51/Meteor/7378/nfic.html
>
> Irene
>
> --- Jessi Mounts <jessi914@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > Will transcripts of the award ceremony and/or peanut
> > gallery be available?
> > And will they be available to people under 18?
> >
> > Jessi
> > jessi914@hotmail.com
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Here's an amusing snippet from one of today's rec.arts.tv newsgroup
threads. The subject was "CBS to Air Adam and Eve Miniseries."

>> Dan Tropea wrote:
>> >Well CBS will be airing for next season a
>> >Adam and Eve miniseries. This is going to
>> >have a twist. The narrator of the
>> >miniseries is going to be Cain.

>>Mr. Hole wrote:
>>I was never a big fan of his work on "The New Adventures of Superman."
>>Sure he had the body to play Superman, but he could never pull off
>>Superman`s attitude when he was in costume.

Dan wrote:
>Mr Hole sorry for not being more explicit. Cain refers to the son
>of Adam and Eve and not the actor Dean Cain. Anyways thats who Cain is.
>According to the story of A&E they had 2 sons - Cain and Abel. Abel
>sacrificed a better lamb to God and Cain in jealousy killed Abel.
>Cain was banished and somehow met a woman and had children. Where this
>woman came from is something i never understood - Adam and Eve the only
>people just had 2 children. There were no other people made in the
>first generation except for Adam and Eve.

Annie wrote:
Damn! I was hoping for 4 hours of Dean Cain in nothing but a bunch of
fig leaves....

Sandy says:
;)

--
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Dear Folcs:

I've been a bit negligent in not thanking those who were so kind to
congratulate me for the recognition "Love as a Blonde" received on
Saturday night.  As I mentioned on the list earlier, I had a prior
engagement for that evening; however, I ended up not being able to
attend that event *either.*  (That horrible flu bug I caught rudely
stayed beyond its "welcome"....  Or, perhaps I was impatient and tried
to fob it off too soon.) In any case, I was a real disaster at work on
Friday.  So, I promised myself I would treat myself to round the clock
rest and medication over the weekend.  That's where I was at the zero
hour of 6:00 p.m. on Saturday -- sound asleep on the couch in a
medicated haze, TV remote dangling limply in one hand, a box of tissues
in the other, breathing noisily through my mouth.  The picture of health
... if the before shot were DEATH.

Oh well.

I'm very tickled that folcs are still tickled by "Love as a Blonde."
That story has certainly paid dividends ten times over in the form of
compliments of all sorts.  Frankly, I should have stopped writing right
then and there and rested on my laurels.<g>  But, no, I had to go and
inflict "Taken" on all of you, and I must admit, I was even more taken
by your recognition of *it.*  Even though it won no award, I was pleased
to see it get nominated because I had labored doubly hard on it.
"Taken"'s my personal favorite (but don't tell the others I said so).
Nevertheless, to have any of my stories nominated was (and is) very
flattering.  I'm sorry that my cold forced me to leave my children
orphaned for the evening.

I thank you for keeping them warm with your praise, appreciation, and
kind regards to me.

--
Sandy
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Hmmm. Interesting.... so nobody, not even Irene, caught the Heinlein
reference that was "Gran'ther". In any case, all will be revealed, or
at least hinted at <g>, later.

As for Dr McCoy.... well, lotsa people saw where the initials and the
surname came from, but Lloyd Hugh has asked me to tell you that he's a
dentist, not a starship doctor!

Actually, I was originally going to "immortalise" Julie Gibson, the
first person to reply to my question about qualifications, but I wanted
to get the message out and it would have taken too long to ask her for
permission. Then I noticed the first few words of her reply, namely
"I'm not a dentist...." and couldn't resist re-hashing an old ST fandom
joke about McCoy's ancestors. Thanks again, Julie, this time for the
inspiration <g>.

Phil
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That'd be fun, wouldn't it?

Tara

(oh, Dean!  Your figleaf fell off! ;-)

------Original Message------
From: Sandy McDermin <smcdermin@EROLS.COM>
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Subject: OT: Adam and Eve and Dean Cain and Abel

Here's an amusing snippet from one of today's rec.arts.tv newsgroup
threads. The subject was "CBS to Air Adam and Eve Miniseries."

>> Dan Tropea wrote:
>> >Well CBS will be airing for next season a
>> >Adam and Eve miniseries. This is going to
>> >have a twist. The narrator of the
>> >miniseries is going to be Cain.

>>Mr. Hole wrote:
>>I was never a big fan of his work on "The New Adventures of Superman."
>>Sure he had the body to play Superman, but he could never pull off
>>Superman`s attitude when he was in costume.

Dan wrote:
>Mr Hole sorry for not being more explicit. Cain refers to the son
>of Adam and Eve and not the actor Dean Cain. Anyways thats who Cain is.
>According to the story of A&E they had 2 sons - Cain and Abel. Abel
>sacrificed a better lamb to God and Cain in jealousy killed Abel.
>Cain was banished and somehow met a woman and had children. Where this
>woman came from is something i never understood - Adam and Eve the only
>people just had 2 children. There were no other people made in the
>first generation except for Adam and Eve.

Annie wrote:
Damn! I was hoping for 4 hours of Dean Cain in nothing but a bunch of
fig leaves....

Sandy says:
;)

--
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Sandy,

Sorry to hear that illness kept you from joining us on
Saturday night; shame, you could have kept me company with
my cough medicine, painkillers and tissues!

Congratulations on your award and runner-up certificates -
as you'll see from the chat log, you had a lot of people
cheering you on when your name was announced.

Take care,

Wendy
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Wendy Richards wrote:
>
> Sandy,
>
> Sorry to hear that illness kept you from joining us on
> Saturday night; shame, you could have kept me company with
> my cough medicine, painkillers and tissues!

Ah ... didn't know the audience had a medical wing.<g> I *did* set an
alarm clock for 6:00 but managed to sleep right through it.  Of course,
I do that every morning as well, so I can't really gloat over that
particular talent.  Omigod, it just occurred to me! Do you think I set
the clock for 6:00 *a.m.* rather than 6:00 p.m.?  I wouldn't put it
passed me in the shape I was in.

> Congratulations on your award and runner-up certificates -
> as you'll see from the chat log, you had a lot of people
> cheering you on when your name was announced.

Yes, I noticed.  I have some individual "thank yous" to send out too.  I
hope those who wrote me will understand if I take a few days to respond
to them.  I'm making my way through a bit more e-mail than usual.

Thanks again.
--
Sandy
smcdermin@erols.com
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Subject:      Not OUATIM: Perry to Dr Cavendish

Dr Cavendish,

Your email regarding the closing of your dental practice is largely
irrelevant, since I have already made alternative arrangements with another
practice.  Frankly, I consider your abrupt disappearance grossly
unprofessional, and am relieved to hear that you will not be continuing in
the field of dentistry.

Thank you for the referral; despite having already found another dentist, I
contacted Dr McCoy out of idle curiosity.   His secretary informs me that he
will shortly be joining the armed services - apparently he is hoping to
become the first dentist in space.  I expected no less from a colleague of
yours.

Finally, my family are called "White", not "Gran'ther", whatever that means.

My best wishes for your future endeavours, and I sincerely hope that your
ancestry research delivers the satisfaction you are obviously still seeking
in life.

Yours,
Perry White

[from Yvonne: Please don't reply to this email address - I never check it
for incoming mail]
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Ahh, the hint that launched a thousand thoughts!  Or is that just one
simple desire?

Ok, that is not quite a spoiler but I suspect the writers have scratched
another itch:)

LOL, Thanks, Kathy,

Carolyn

>At 2:08 PM -0500 10/18/99, Carolyn Schnall wrote:
>
>> Don't want to know if there will be an altClark finds his Lois story
>>later on,
>
>You don't?  Darn. ;)  OK, I won't tell you. <g>
>
>Kathy (not even whispering episode numbers ;))
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Warning long post anyone not interested in my fanfiction can skip right
over=
=20
this one

Charlotte

Sandy McDermin wrote:=20

<<Charlotte:

I must apologize for taking so long in getting back comments to you.>>

No problem, as you can see I'm pretty bad too.  During the last two
weeks,=20
The 'roof' started falling in on me -literally and my car's
 transmission died, oh  Never mind. Apologies to you and everyone else
on the list for not replying yet.  Thank you once again for all your=20
wonderful=20
comments.  I'm learning a lot.

> Revealing Cruise, Part II. Pg. 1
> Consequences

> A smiling Willard spied Lois and Clark together at her desk
> and called out, "Ms. Lane, Mr. Kent, we got them.  The
> whole cartel's been busted up and the ringleaders are all
> under arrest in their own countries.  The evidence you two
> got while posing as honeymooners on the cruise ship made it
> all possible."  Everyone in the newsroom stopped and stared
> at the Daily Planet's star reporters.  Lois, Clark noted
> his stomach plunging, had turned white.

Well, in spite of what I just said above and the fact that your story
relies on the indiscretion of the Interpol guy, I really found it
strange that Willard, a person who you would expect to keep things close
to his chest, would call out as if making an announcement to the entire
city room. It might have been better for the three agents to meet at
Lois' desk and perhaps talk loudly enough that a few others could hear.
That would still leave it open for Perry to rush out and bring them into
his office, while still providing your story with the needed impetus for
gossip.>>

A worthy criticism but I'm not changing this.  Call it poetic license, but
I=
=20
just
Think that a semi private conversation while much more believable just=20
doesn't=20
have the same impact.  I want Lois to publicly turn pale, and Clark as
well,=
=20
so I'm leaving It the way it is.

> "Mr. White, no one outside of the Daily Planet will learn
> the identity of Karl and Lucy Jensen.  Interpol can keep
> secrets as well as you," Conners assured him.  "Surely you
> can make certain the real story doesn't leak out of your
> newspaper building.  We came by to give you the word that
> Interpol has agreed that the Planet's exclusive can be
> run."

Connors' assurances sound kind of silly considering that *anyone* could
have been in the city room when Willard made his announcement --
messengers, visitors, the cleaning crew, the xerox repairman, Tez.  The
Daily Planet's premises are not as secure as Interpol's.>>

This, however is, if anything an even more valid critique, and
 I will change it but only slightly.=20
I have to admit, I always felt uncomfortable,
seeing all those 'Lane and Kent' posters=20
plastered all over town in WEIAK.=20
They're supposed to be investigators,=20
able to go undercover, yet here they are for everyone to see.=20
The writers taking poetic license, I suppose. =20
Anyhow, I'm going to have the city room 'closed' to the public=20
ahead of time.  Surely Perry could and would have done that,=20
if he were expecting the Interpol guys, even if not expecting them
to blurt everything out.

I'm surprised Perry didn't slap him.>>

He probably wanted to but let's just say
 he's a very disciplined individual ... nah.

> With that Perry White sent the two of them out to
> investigate increased teen gang violence on the south side.

Regarding the "south side" investigation, I think you had things moving
a little too fast.  You had the investigation, the reporting of the
story, the impact on the city, and the resolution happen in what appears
to be less than a week.  Of course, whole careers have been destroyed
after only a few misspoken words so....>>

Yep, but really I didn't intend it to be an investigation
except of one isolated incident.  Nothing is settled that fast
and I only intended to imply that a method for beginning to deal
with the south side's problem had been initiated,=20
not that anything had been resolved.
Perhaps I will massage this a bit.

> Lois and Clark were asked by city officials to work closely
> with all parties to ensure a fair and equitable solution
> and they agreed. The subsequent three days of their week
> were spent on that story, writing up progress that was

*Lois and Clark* were asked to work on the gang violence problem by the
city?  Wouldn't city officials just assure Lois and Clark that *they*
would be working toward a fair and equitable solution?>>

Not if they had any sense and, in my story,=20
the violence was sufficient to wake up a few people.=20
Yeah, I know its not likely, still if a guy can fly=85

> Unfortunately, in spite of Perry's efforts and in contrast
> to what he believed, the newsroom gossip about the cruise
> ship investigation continued.  Steve Nicholson, the new
> intern actually grilled Clark during one of the latter's
> rare appearances in the newsroom that week.  Clark tried to
> laugh the speculation off.

Interns are pretty low on the totem pole.  I thought Steve was at least
a new reporter, considering his influence and the fact that he felt
comfortable grilling Clark. On the other hand, after our "White House
intern episode" I'm beginning to reassess their relative influence.<g>>>

No comment on this, since you seemed to have provided the solution'
As well as the problem.  Besides, Clark is always polite, and he did get
Steve hired.

> "Well," Nicholson told the group: "The guy had the chance
> of a lifetime to come on to Lane and apparently didn't act
> on it.  Lois Lane is beautiful, vivacious, funny, smart,
> sexually experienced - what 'real man' wouldn't have at
> least tried to score."

Sounds odd for Nicholson to describe Lois as "sexually experienced."
She did have a relationship with someone in the office, but other than
that, I thought people saw her pretty much as a workaholic and an ice
maiden.>>

Not at all, remember two things.  1) Nicholson is a sleaze
with a dirty mind and 2) Lois says 'Besides guys like Steve get=20
so caught up in their fantasies that eventually they=20
believe them to be true.'

Given both of those facts, don't you think that=20
Steve would 'know' better, as such=20
Guys always do? I think based on the rumors
about Lois and Claude, he'd be certain that=20
Lois Lane is 'sexually experienced," even if=20
everyone else thinks she's a workaholic.=20

Steve's mind is in the gutter all the time.
  =20
> All that afternoon while Clark worked diligently at his
> computer (**He really was out checking with a source this
> time. **) she surreptitiously observed the rest of the
> Planet staff as they interacted with her partner while
> keeping a close eye on Steve Nicholson.

I know what you're saying here, but it sounds a little bit like the
*Planet staff* was keeping a close eye on Steve Nicholson<g> -- which,
considering what a lovely person he is, seems like a wise idea.>>

I'll try to change this around a bit.

>Let it go, baby.  I don't care what any of them think, I
>told you that."

You know, I once had Clark call Lois "baby" in a fic because I got tired
of all the usual endearments and my editors called me on it saying that
they had never heard Clark call Lois baby.  They even suggested that
she wouldn't go for it. Have you heard it, so I can be vindicated?<g>

Oh, Sandy, why didn't you fight your editor on this one?  I don't care
Whether the term was ever used on the show.  "Baby" was the first term=20
of endearment my husband called me.  This was when I was a grad student
in=20
Library school and he was an undergraduate sophomore.=20
I was born 3 =BD years efore he was=20
and he was my 'baby' all through our years together=20
as I Continued to be his.=20
I love the term, and think it is a sweet endearment,=20
Much more so than honey.=20
 I'm certain that Clark would use it for his Lois

It's stayin' in.  If anyone removes it, it'll be against=20
my vehement protests.

>She'd been doing that for several months now, because he
>was often called away to do Superman things during the
>afternoon and didn't return to work until the next day.

She'd been doing this without question for months?  For a moment, I
thought you were inferring that she had made the connection between CK
and Superman, but she hasn't yet, right?  Or, has she subconsciously?
Hmm.>>

No, she hasn't but I think that if she trusts her partner, she will assume
He has a good reason for leaving and cover for him. =20
I know the show had It a bit differently, but I am not writing LACTNAOS.=20
 I am writing a Lois Lane kinder and more trusting I guess.
 One who believes:
"when one of us does something,=20
the other takes responsibility.  That's what
being partners is all about."=20

>As they became
>closer and spent more time together, he had to leave
>practically in mid conversation

This sounds like a cause and effect situation, and I don't think that's
what you meant.  Or, maybe it is?  I suppose the more time he's spent
with Lois, the more uneasy he has gotten about not leveling with her and
the more likely he is to "hear things."  Am I stretching here?  In any
case, I think the sentence needs some clarification.>>

Agreed. Particularly since I not even sure how to respond.

Wow, Charlotte, this story is chock-full and I can see why you would
need to break it into three parts.  It actually could be three separate
stories as each one definitely has a different feel and flavor.  Is that
what you were intending?  In any case, I am enjoying all three.

Actually that seems to be the way I write.  Wait until you read my Lois
and=20
Clark engaged.  That 'story' is currently 5 parts, each a separate or
almost=
=20
separate
Story, although some stories, (like these) depend on previous installments.

Charlotte
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Hey there Chief,

> Ask your wife.  She's the one who's supposed to be
> interviewing Carlton about the rebuild.

Sounds like the stress is getting to you again. Want
Superman to bring you some more paava leaves?

Lois should have sent you her interview by now. But she's
not feeling too good lately, and I want to take her away on
vacation. So we'll be taking two weeks off as of the end of
this week; I don't know if you noticed, but my last act as
Acting Editor-in-Chief was to approve a request for leave
for the two of us.

Don't know where we're going, but it won't be Graceland!
We'll send you a postcard.

Oh, and Superman says he has something of yours which he
wants to return to you at an appropriately discreet moment.
Something about an old photo Underhill had in his pocket...
he may have mentioned fishnet stockings and a fountain at
midnight. Can't have been you, though, Chief - the guy in
this photo had hair.

See you in a couple of weeks,

Clark

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Wow.  It's goood, James.  Keep it coming.

Charlotte
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Actually, Phil, *I* caught it, but I wasn't sure if you were actually
referring to Heinlein's books or not, so I didn't reply.  That's the only
place I've ever seen that particular contraction used, but you never know

Nan

Phillip Atcliffe wrote:

> Hmmm. Interesting.... so nobody, not even Irene, caught the Heinlein
> reference that was "Gran'ther". In any case, all will be revealed, or
> at least hinted at <g>, later.
>
> As for Dr McCoy.... well, lotsa people saw where the initials and the
> surname came from, but Lloyd Hugh has asked me to tell you that he's a
> dentist, not a starship doctor!
>
> Actually, I was originally going to "immortalise" Julie Gibson, the
> first person to reply to my question about qualifications, but I wanted
> to get the message out and it would have taken too long to ask her for
> permission. Then I noticed the first few words of her reply, namely
> "I'm not a dentist...." and couldn't resist re-hashing an old ST fandom
> joke about McCoy's ancestors. Thanks again, Julie, this time for the
> inspiration <g>.
>
> Phil
> ------------------------------------------------------------
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>    (Or, So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!)
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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:33:38 EDT Charlotte Fisler
<Cdfisler@AOL.COM> wrote:

> > You know, I once had Clark call Lois "baby" in a fic
> > because I got tired of all the usual endearments and my
> > editors called me on it saying that they had never
> > heard Clark call Lois baby.[snip]
>
> Oh, Sandy, why didn't you fight your editor on this one?  I
> don't care Whether the term was ever used on the show.
>[snip]
> I'm certain that Clark would use it for his Lois

Oh, I'm not. Definitely not <shudder>. I hate that as a
term of endearment for adults. It sounds so patronising,
and as it's more usually used by men for women, extremely
demeaning and sexist too. I can't see Lois accepting it.

But that's just MHO....

Wendy

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In a message dated 10/19/99 8:25:49 PM !!!First Boot!!!, kmroden@HOTMAIL.COM
writes:

<<
 Dr. Leonard H. McCoy, Star Ship Enterprise...

 Kath
 (Trekkie, but *only* the original!)
  >>

Me too.  I ws beginning to think I was only one left.  Even Ben, the
traitor,
thinks Patrick Stewart was the better starship captain.

Oh  well

Charlotte
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--- Wendy Richards <w.m.richards@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK>
wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:33:38 EDT Charlotte Fisler
> <Cdfisler@AOL.COM> wrote:
>
>
> > > You know, I once had Clark call Lois "baby" in a
> fic
> > > because I got tired of all the usual endearments
> and my
> > > editors called me on it saying that they had
> never
> > > heard Clark call Lois baby.[snip]
> >
> > Oh, Sandy, why didn't you fight your editor on
> this one?  I
> > don't care Whether the term was ever used on the
> show.
> >[snip]
> > I'm certain that Clark would use it for his Lois
>
>
> Oh, I'm not. Definitely not <shudder>. I hate that
> as a
> term of endearment for adults. It sounds so
> patronising,
> and as it's more usually used by men for women,
> extremely
> demeaning and sexist too. I can't see Lois accepting
> it.
>
> But that's just MHO....
>
>
> Wendy

Not just your humble opinion, Wendy.  This one grates
on me an incredible amount too.

Irene
(who just knows she would deck a man if he called her that!)

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Hi honey!

Now I'm over at Metro U, using their library's computer to
look up some stuff at the Library of Congress. For some
reason, I couldn't get access from the laptop at home.

> I am chomping at the bit to take
> that little vacation you've promised me.  Where do you
> think we should go?

Hmmm... I've been thinking about that too, sweetheart. How
does Austria sound? The Alps? We can get a cabin, sit in
front of log fires, go for long tramps in the snow, fly
into town for some sightseeing.... One of the resort owners
owes Superman a favour after an avalanche almost destroyed
his complex last year, so I'm sure he'd be willing to give
Superman's friends a reduced rate on something nice....

> Besides, I don't think I want to know.  We'll love this
> baby equally whether its a boy or girl and I'm not going to
> bring a child into this world and saddle it with the
> hangups of thinking they're the wrong sex.

Oh, honey, sometimes I'd like to shake your father for what
he did to you! You know I won't be like that. I'd love a
son, of course, but I also have dreams of a little girl
exactly like you. We're going to be great parents, honey.

>
> Talk about 'how the mighty have fallen'; since news of
> Macdonald's arrest hit the street the phone's never stopped
> ringing.   I've been contacted by a number of sources with
> stories of how he's cheated and manipulated them.

Sounds good - another Lane and Kent series in the making?
You think they'll hold off until we get back from our
vacation?

>and if you're a
> very good partner and hurry home I'll show you a number of
> other reasons why we're...... so very good together.....
> stronger than one alone.

I'm hurrying, I'm hurrying! I'll be with you... super-fast!

Love you,

Clark

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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:46:49 EDT Charlotte Fisler <Cdfisler@AOL.COM>
wrote:

> In a message dated 10/19/99 8:25:49 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
kmroden@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
>>  Dr. Leonard H. McCoy, Star Ship Enterprise...

>>   Kath
>>   (Trekkie, but *only* the original!)

> Me too. I was beginning to think I was only one left. Even Ben, the
traitor, thinks Patrick Stewart was the better starship captain. <

I'm prepared to concede he had the better _ship_... even though the
only ST ship that really grabs me is the refitted original E (alias the
Enterprise-A). I could watch that introductory scene in ST:TMP all
day.... <sigh>

Otherwise, Picard is too hemmed in by StarFleet regs, not to mention
his first officer, to have much of a chance to shine the way Kirk did
-- although when it _does_ come to a fight, J-L does quite nicely,
thank you.

Sisko isn't bad, either, but he suffers from "Pesky Writer Disease",
i.e., every time he gets to go somewhere in the Defiant, the writers
arrange for something to go wrong, so that he too never gets a chance
to properly show us what he can do.

Janeway is the nearest thing we've seen to a 24th-century
Kirk-equivalent, and she gets away with it because a) she doesn't have
StarFleet breathing down her neck all the time, and b) she's female,
and the writers want to show that she can be up there slugging with the
big boys (and quite right, too).

Of course, none of them can hold a candle to Delenn or Ivanova when
either gets mad.... although I'd like to see Gideon in action.

Oh, and the subject line comes from the original ST blooper reel, in
which an actress who shall remain nameless ('cause I don't know her
name, even if I can remember her face <g>) messes up her line; she
supposed to be saying "...the captain of a starship", but it comes out
wrong. Given the "revelations" regarding Shatner's supposed ego at the
time, is that Freudian or what? <g>

Phil
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I'd like to request that the 'baby' thread be stopped before it
starts. It was bad enough a few weeks ago on the LCFLP that
someone was kicked/banned from posting. Some see it as a ToE
others as an insult. I believe that it can be either depending
on the context. Let's just agree to disagree.

Thank you,

LM

>>
>> > > You know, I once had Clark call Lois "baby" in a
>> fic
>> > > because I got tired of all the usual endearments
>> and my
>> > > editors called me on it saying that they had
>> never
>> > > heard Clark call Lois baby.[snip]
>> >
>> > Oh, Sandy, why didn't you fight your editor on
>> this one?  I
>> > don't care Whether the term was ever used on the
>> show.
>> >[snip]
>> > I'm certain that Clark would use it for his Lois
>>
>>
>> Oh, I'm not. Definitely not <shudder>. I hate that
>> as a
>> term of endearment for adults. It sounds so
>> patronising,
>> and as it's more usually used by men for women,
>> extremely
>> demeaning and sexist too. I can't see Lois accepting
>> it.
>>
>> But that's just MHO....
>>
>>
>> Wendy
>
>Not just your humble opinion, Wendy.  This one grates
>on me an incredible amount too.
>
>Irene
>(who just knows she would deck a man if he called her that!)
>
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Summary:  Everyone always assumed H.G.. Wells was responsible for the
magical appearance of the baby in "The Family Hour".  But what if he
wasn't?

A silver Jeep Cherokee maneuvered expertly through the crowded streets
of Metropolis' rush hour.  Lois Lane, at the wheel, glanced in the
mirror at her four month old adopted son in his car seat.  The baby was
blinking drowsily; Lois had noticed how the motion of a car always
tended to lull CJ to sleep in record time.  She returned her gaze to the
heavy traffic.  She was late getting home, and Clark was
who-knew-where.  He had rushed out of the newsroom two hours ago and
Superman had been spotted shortly thereafter, preventing the Metropolis
Ferry from taking itself and some forty passengers to a watery grave.
The disaster averted, Superman had flown off.  He was probably
patrolling the city one last time before dinner, Lois surmised.  With
luck, they would be able to eat in peace for once without someone
yelling for his help.

At Melon Street Lois turned right, and almost immediately right once
more into the parking lot of Antonio's.  Dinner was going to be take-out
Italian tonight, since she was so late, from the authentic little
Italian family restaurant Clark had found last month.  Fettucine
Alfredo, she thought, and crusty Italian bread, and maybe a salad,
washed down with that red wine Clark had brought home from Italy last
week.  Her stomach growled at the mere thought of it, reminding her that
she had skipped lunch because of the Mayor's press conference.  As far
as Lois was concerned the answers Her Honor had given were unconvincing
and incomplete, and if she thought Lois was going to drop the matter
now--about her, or the City Council--she was vastly mistaken.

She pulled into a parking place and cut the engine.  A few moments later
she was waiting at the counter, CJ in one arm, while Giuseppe assembled
the order.  The little man was Antonio's brother-in-law, Lois knew.  The
restaurant was very much a family affair, Clark had told her, and Lois
had not been surprised to learn that Clark had already heard the history
of the entire clan, and their move from Milan to the United States a
generation ago, when Grandfather Antonio had established the business.
Giuseppe set the bag with its steaming contents on the counter and rang
up the charges, smiling cheerfully at CJ.

"So this is CJ?  Clark has told us so much about him," he informed Lois,
cheerfully.  "He's a handsome boy.  Looks a lot like your husband."

"Thank you," Lois said.  She counted out the money one-handed, and
sniffed at the smells emanating from the bag.  "That smells heavenly,
Giuseppe."

"The chef's special," he said, proudly.  "You won't find better
Fettucine Alfredo anywhere in Metropolis."

"I can believe it," she said.  "Thanks.  I better get it home before it
gets cold."

"Just warm it in the microwave if it does," he told her.  "It takes more
than that to ruin *this* food."

Lois picked up the bag, with care for the fragrant contents, and
returned to the Jeep.  Stashing the food in the back, carefully braced
against spillage, she settled CJ into his car seat again, mind returning
to Giuseppe's remark about him as she slid behind the wheel again and
started the engine.

Of course, most casual acquaintances were unaware that he was adopted.
It wasn't a subject that usually came up.  But the man had been
right--CJ looked very much like Clark.
The thin layer of hair on his head, when he had come to them three
months ago, was slowly but surely growing darker; he had the same big,
brown, almond-shaped eyes, and even the tiny birthmark on his upper
lip.  The little dimpled chin had a determined curve like Clark's too,
and Lois often could swear, looking at him, that this baby really was
Clark's son, no matter how impossible it might be.  It was a mystery,
all right, as was his arrival itself, but it didn't matter.  He was
theirs and that was all that did.

Horns blared behind her, interrupting her ruminations.  She glanced in
the mirror, to see a grey car cut rudely under the nose of a vegetable
truck, causing the driver to slam on his brakes.  More horns sounded.
The grey car pulled into the next lane, tailgating the Chevy in front of
him.  Lois shook her head.  Drivers were getting worse every day around
here.  If that guy wasn't careful, Superman was going to be pulling him
out of a wrecked vehicle.  She sped up a little.  People like that made
her nervous.  The last thing she needed was to get into an accident with
CJ in the car.

The light in front of her turned yellow as she went through the
intersection and then instantly red.  That light was always too short,
she knew.  The squeal of tires and a chorus of honking behind her caused
her to glance quickly back.  The grey car had gone through the red
light, and was pulling up on her.

The back of her neck began to prickle.  There was something frightening
about the driver's determination to keep up with her.  The grey car
pulled even with her rear bumper and nudged closer.

Trying to keep one eye on traffic and one on the car that she was now
almost sure was following her, Lois pressed harder on the accelerator,
but hurrying was almost impossible in the heavy traffic.  She couldn't
see much of the driver in the mirror.  He seemed to be wearing a hat,
pulled down over his forehead, a pair of sunglasses, a mustache and a
short, curly, brown beard.  She tried to memorize what she could see of
his appearance and at the same time keep a car or two between them.

But rudeness and determination seemed to win out.  The other car edged
inexorably nearer, and it was obvious that the driver was attempting to
cut her off.  Lois gritted her teeth.  The grey car was pulling even
with her front fender now, inching toward her as they approached an
intersection.  The car ahead of her went through as the turn light
changed to red in her direction.  She took a deep breath, slammed her
foot down on the accelerator and cut left sharply in front of the other
car.  The driver instinctively slammed on his brakes and his tires
squealed in protest.  Keeping her foot to the floor, she swung farther
left, made an illegal turn against the light under the nose of the wall
of traffic just beginning to move forward, and rocketed into the cross
street,  her own tires shrieking their distress.  Horns blared behind
her, and shouts of fury filled the air.  Glancing back, she glimpsed the
beginnings of a massive traffic jam, with the pursuing car caught in the
middle of it.  She kept going, barely aware of her racing heart,
single-mindedly heading for home, and safety.

Clark zipped through the bedroom window, changed clothing in a gush of
wind and exited down the stairs in his civilian attire.  Even before he
reached the ground floor he knew something was wrong.  He could smell
Italian food, but it was in a bag on the coffee table, and the front
door was locked and chained.  Lois was sitting on the sofa, holding CJ
in her lap, and she jumped slightly when he appeared suddenly on the
stairs.  He could hear her heart speed up.  He came lightly across the
living room and was beside the two of them in an instant.  "What's the
matter, honey?"

Lois swallowed.  "I'm glad you're home."

"I would have been here sooner, but a Jeep apparently made an illegal
left turn over on Palomar and Woods, and caused a big traffic jam.  I
had to clean it up."  He saw her expression change.  "What's the matter,
Lois?  Did something happen?"

She nodded.  "Someone was trying to force me off the road."  She told
him the story, and while she talked he put his arms about her and CJ
both.

"You kept your head and got out of it," he said, quietly, when she had
finished.  "Of course, I expect no less from Lois Lane."  She smiled
faintly at that.  "But, seriously, you did the right thing.  Who do you
think it was?  Did you get a look at the driver?"

She shook her head.  "He was all bundled up--sunglasses, hat, mustache
and beard.  About the only thing I could tell was that it was a man with
brown hair.  Not a lot to go on."

"How about the car?"

"It was a grey sedan; I think it might have been a Ford, but it was an
older car, and I couldn't see the brand."

"Okay," he said.  "Did you call the police?"

"Yes.  They took the report, but said not to expect a lot."

"I'm afraid that's probably accurate."  He stood up, drawing her with
him.  "Why don't I heat this food up for dinner?  You'll feel better
after you've had something to eat.  I'm not going to let anything happen
to you and CJ, Lois.  Count on it."

"I know."  She shook herself abruptly. "Look at me!  Acting like
nobody's ever been after me before.  If there is, we'll handle it.  The
thing that shook me up was that CJ was in the car."

"I know.  You had to look out for him, too."  He stroked the fine, dark
hair on their son's head.  "But you kept him safe.  That's what counts.
Come on.  You get the wine and I'll fix up the food.  Let's eat."
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Sandy had many comments on Charlotte's story, and I'll pick out a
selection of Charlotte's responses:

> A worthy criticism but I'm not changing this.  Call it poetic license,
> but I just Think that a semi private conversation while much more
> believable just doesn't have the same impact.  I want Lois to
> publicly turn pale, and Clark as well, so I'm leaving It the way it is.

Charlotte, just so you know, for some of us "unbelievable" really really
lessens the impact.  (which is a problem my husband has with Star Trek
these days, when they ignore their own continuity).  You're entitled to
write whatever version of reality that you want, but you should know
that the farther you get from the one most of us recognize (from the
show, I mean, since that was itself a sanitized version) the more you're
going to leave readers behind.

> I don't care
> Whether the term was ever used on the show.  "Baby" was the first term
> of endearment my husband called me.

Skipping the "baby" issue ... In my own writing, I have tried hard to
stay with the characterizations from the show, even when I've played
fast and loose with continuity.  I know there are times when I've based
Lois's reactions on what *I* would say or do or think in that situation,
but I consider that a weakness in my stories, because I'm really very
unlike Lois.

> I am not writing LACTNAOS.

Well, that sums it up for me.

I prefer reading and writing LACTNAOS, so I'm sorry to say I'll be
skipping your version.  I know many won't agree with me, though, so
don't stop on my account :)

(Pam, do the words "let it go" mean anything to you?) (Okay, okay, I'll
shut up <g>)
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LM wrote:
I'd like to request that the 'baby' thread be stopped before it
starts. It was bad enough a few weeks ago on the LCFLP that
someone was kicked/banned from posting. Some see it as a ToE
others as an insult. I believe that it can be either depending
on the context. Let's just agree to disagree.

I'm happy to respect your request, but can we have a translation?  LCFLP?
ToE?

Yvonne
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In a message dated 10/20/99 6:33:33 PM !!!First Boot!!!, yconnell@UKF.NET
writes:

> I'm happy to respect your request, but can we have a translation?  LCFLP?
>  ToE?

LCFLP is Demi's Lois and Clark Fantasy Land Pages where there is a very
active message board. For those who didn't know about it, the url is
http://destinyy.com/boards/Ultimate.cgi or <A
HREF="http://destinyy.com/boards/Ultimate.cgi">LCFLP: FORUM - powered by the
Ultimate Bulletin Board</A>

ToE is term of endearment.

Chris P. (Back to lurking now)
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I happen to think that Cap. Janeway is as good as Kirk.  She has to be--out
there in the middle of the Delta Quadrant with a ship and crew to get home
:-)

Tara
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In a message dated 10/19/99 8:25:49 PM !!!First Boot!!!, kmroden@HOTMAIL.COM
writes:

<<
Dr. Leonard H. McCoy, Star Ship Enterprise...

Kath
(Trekkie, but *only* the original!)
>>

Me too.  I ws beginning to think I was only one left.  Even Ben, the
traitor,
thinks Patrick Stewart was the better starship captain.

Oh  well

Charlotte

"Whoever said the human race was logical?"  Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV:
The Voyage Home "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?"

"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape"
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I was just wondering if Parts 1 and 2 were posted?

Thanks,
Carolyn
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Has anyone written a story based on the non-wedding arc where CLois survives
somehow?  I found myself really liking her and feeling sorry for her by the
end of it (she was only 13 days old and was doing her best to help Clark and
all!)  Just wondering.

Tara

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Ahh, the hint that launched a thousand thoughts!  Or is that just one
simple desire?

Ok, that is not quite a spoiler but I suspect the writers have scratched
another itch:)

LOL, Thanks, Kathy,

Carolyn

>At 2:08 PM -0500 10/18/99, Carolyn Schnall wrote:
>
>> Don't want to know if there will be an altClark finds his Lois story
>>later on,
>
>You don't?  Darn. ;)  OK, I won't tell you. <g>
>
>Kathy (not even whispering episode numbers ;))
>
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DITTO CHARLOTTE - JAMES
    merry

Charlotte Fisler wrote:

> Wow.  It's goood, James.  Keep it coming.
>
> Charlotte
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good story
merry

Eugene Ellison wrote:

> Somewhere in Metropolis.
>
>      Carter smiled. He'd finally completed the first part of his plan. The
> janitor would be paid well for his help. And if the janitor got it in his
> head to tell anyone of  Carter's plans, the janitor would have to be
> eliminated. It was as simple as that. Carter looked into a nearby mirror
and
> admired Mr.Asabi's handiwork. Sixteen years ago, Carter L. Andrews was
known
> as Lex Luthor. Years ago, Lex had kidnapped Lois and attempted to
brainwash
> her, so that could have possession of her. But  the plan failed and
Superman
> took Lois from him again. Asabi found Lex, close to death after Superman
had
> taken Lois, and so, Asabi decided to  transfer Lex's soul to the body of
the
> clone. Lex's soul was transferred to an 'A class' clone. That meant that
Lex
> would live for 100 years. But all that Carter wanted to do was to carry
out
> his plan and if it took 100 years,that was fine with him. Seventeen years
> been a long time and Lex Luthor was not a patient man. For years, Lex had
> waited for the right window to open so that he could carry out a plan to
> destroy Superman and Clark Kent again. Lex had even gotten a voice coach,
so
> that he could get the  voice of a teenager instead of the voice of a
> middle-aged man. He'd hired people to pose as his parents so that he
wouldn'
> t look suspicious with all the money that he'd acquired. He was glad that
he
> had been resourceful enough to get people that would co-operate with him.
> But those people had no other choice. None of them wanted to die and none
of
> them wanted to lose the steady income that they were receiving.
>      Now Carter knew that Kent and Lane had gotten married and had two
> children. He couldn't believe that they had children at all, not after he
> went through all the trouble of having one of his men at S.T.A.R. Labs
taint
> Superman's records. But Kent and Lois  had children anyway.  Twins, as a
> matter of fact.  The children could be very valuable to Carter, especially
> the girl, Lara. If the girl was anything like her mother, it would be a
very
> easy task. And since Carter knew that Clark was Superman, he could
blackmail
> him if anyone got in the way of his plans. On Monday, the second part of
his
> plan would be enacted. Carter looked at the photos again. The children
> definitely belonged to Lois and Kent. But now, they would belong to him.
> Carter smiled again. It was the smile of Lex Luthor.
>
> Chapter Four
>
> That night  on 348 Hyperion Avenue.
>
> Clark Kent and Lois Lane Kent were in bed, reading. But Clark knew that
Lois
> had the book, so that she wouldn't have to discuss that day's events.
>  "Lois?"
>
> "Yes, honey?"
>
> "What's that book about?"
>
> "It's about the controversy of spraying for fruit flies in residential
> areas."
>
> "Lois, we have to talk about this."
>
> "About what?"
>
> "How did you feel when the kids told us that they were developing powers."
>
> Lois put the book down and wondered why Clark even had literature like
that
> in the house. "I was shocked at first. I mean, they're only sixteen. You
> were eighteen when you started getting them weren't you?"
>
> "I was flying in high school and floating. But my powers weren't fully
> developed until I was eighteen. But the kids are starting a lot slower
than
> I did."
>
> "I hate you." Lois said with a wry grin on her face.
>
> "I love you too, honey. I think we'd better see how far Lara and J.C. have
> gotten with their powers."
>
> Lois nodded. "Do you think it'll be hard for them like it was for you?
> Having to hide everything  that was Kryptonian about you?
>
> "I don't think it will be as hard. They have each other and us."
> Lois sat up in the bed. "No, they have each other and you."
>
> "They have you too honey. You're their mother. And you understand having
> powers just as well as I do."
>
> "UltraWoman?"
>
> "Exactly."
>
> "I love you Clark, even though it's your fault that our kids will be bench
> pressing refrigerators."
>
> "I love you too. And we'll deal with this together. As a family."
>
> Chapter Five
>
> Sixteen years ago.
>
> "What was that all about?" Clark asked his wife. He had just seen an
> exchange between Lois and his mother and he hated being left in the dark.
>
> "Girl talk." Lois explained, but somehow, that didn't explain anything.
She
> told him that she would tell him about it upstairs.
>
> "Why upstairs?"
>
> "Guess." Lois grabbed the end of Clark's tie and began to pull him up the
> stairs by his tie. Once they got to the doorway of their bedroom, Lois let
> go of his tie. Clark brought his head close to Lois, so that he could kiss
> her. But she stopped his head midway.
>
> "I have something to tell you."
>
> Clark got worried and Lois could tell by the expression on his face.
>
> "Clark, don't look so worried. This is good news. Especially for you."
>
> "What is it?"
>
> "Remember when I told you that I didn't know if I wanted to have kids?"
>
> Clark nodded, hoping this was going where he hoped it was going.
>
> "I want children. I want your children. I know it'll be hard work, but we
> can be great parents, together."
>
> All the sudden Clark launched himself at her and Lois was pinned against
the
> wall.
> He kissed her in a way that showed Lois just how good the news was.
>
> Lois gasped when Clark began kissing her neck. "Clark?"
>
> Clark stopped for moment. "Yes?" he asked, breathing heavily.
>
> "I take it that you want to start practicing now?"
>
> For the next three hours, Clark told her that his answer had been yes.
>
> Two months later, Dr. Klein told Superman that he was incompatible with a
> earthwoman for reproduction. Then a month later, Dr.Klein was proven
> wrong,because Lois became pregnant. And then Lois and Clark found out they
> were going to be the parents of twins. When the twins arrived, Lois and
> Clark named the girl Lara Elaine Kent and the boy Jonathan Clark Kent.
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Yes, thanks, this is amusing, except I don't agree with the crack about
Dean in the Suit:(

Carolyn
cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu

>Here's an amusing snippet from one of today's rec.arts.tv newsgroup
>threads. The subject was "CBS to Air Adam and Eve Miniseries."
>
>
>>> Dan Tropea wrote:
>>> >Well CBS will be airing for next season a
>>> >Adam and Eve miniseries. This is going to
>>> >have a twist. The narrator of the
>>> >miniseries is going to be Cain.
>
>
>>>Mr. Hole wrote:
>>>I was never a big fan of his work on "The New Adventures of Superman."
>>>Sure he had the body to play Superman, but he could never pull off
>>>Superman`s attitude when he was in costume.
>
>
>Dan wrote:
>>Mr Hole sorry for not being more explicit. Cain refers to the son
>>of Adam and Eve and not the actor Dean Cain. Anyways thats who Cain is.
>>According to the story of A&E they had 2 sons - Cain and Abel. Abel
>>sacrificed a better lamb to God and Cain in jealousy killed Abel.
>>Cain was banished and somehow met a woman and had children. Where this
>>woman came from is something i never understood - Adam and Eve the only
>>people just had 2 children. There were no other people made in the
>>first generation except for Adam and Eve.
>
>
>Annie wrote:
>Damn! I was hoping for 4 hours of Dean Cain in nothing but a bunch of
>fig leaves....
>
>
>Sandy says:
>;)
>
>--
>Sandy -- (Annie's colleague at the NRC/NAS)
>smcdermin@erols.com
>http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/
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Oh Tara, I'm ROTHLMBO:)

Carolyn

>That'd be fun, wouldn't it?
>
>Tara
>
>(oh, Dean!  Your figleaf fell off! ;-)
>
>
>------Original Message------
>From: Sandy McDermin <smcdermin@EROLS.COM>
>To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
>Sent: October 20, 1999 3:04:44 AM GMT
>Subject: OT: Adam and Eve and Dean Cain and Abel
>
>
>Here's an amusing snippet from one of today's rec.arts.tv newsgroup
>threads. The subject was "CBS to Air Adam and Eve Miniseries."
>
>
>>> Dan Tropea wrote:
>>> >Well CBS will be airing for next season a
>>> >Adam and Eve miniseries. This is going to
>>> >have a twist. The narrator of the
>>> >miniseries is going to be Cain.
>
>
>>>Mr. Hole wrote:
>>>I was never a big fan of his work on "The New Adventures of Superman."
>>>Sure he had the body to play Superman, but he could never pull off
>>>Superman`s attitude when he was in costume.
>
>
>Dan wrote:
>>Mr Hole sorry for not being more explicit. Cain refers to the son
>>of Adam and Eve and not the actor Dean Cain. Anyways thats who Cain is.
>>According to the story of A&E they had 2 sons - Cain and Abel. Abel
>>sacrificed a better lamb to God and Cain in jealousy killed Abel.
>>Cain was banished and somehow met a woman and had children. Where this
>>woman came from is something i never understood - Adam and Eve the only
>>people just had 2 children. There were no other people made in the
>>first generation except for Adam and Eve.
>
>
>Annie wrote:
>Damn! I was hoping for 4 hours of Dean Cain in nothing but a bunch of
>fig leaves....
>
>
>Sandy says:
>;)
>
>--
>Sandy -- (Annie's colleague at the NRC/NAS)
>smcdermin@erols.com
>http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/
>
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Where can I find these abbreviations (like ROTHLMBO)?  Some of them have
really confused me because I couldn't figure them out.

Tara

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Oh Tara, I'm ROTHLMBO:)

Carolyn

>That'd be fun, wouldn't it?
>
>Tara
>
>(oh, Dean!  Your figleaf fell off! ;-)
>
>
>------Original Message------
>From: Sandy McDermin <smcdermin@EROLS.COM>
>To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
>Sent: October 20, 1999 3:04:44 AM GMT
>Subject: OT: Adam and Eve and Dean Cain and Abel
>
>
>Here's an amusing snippet from one of today's rec.arts.tv newsgroup
>threads. The subject was "CBS to Air Adam and Eve Miniseries."
>
>
>>> Dan Tropea wrote:
>>> >Well CBS will be airing for next season a
>>> >Adam and Eve miniseries. This is going to
>>> >have a twist. The narrator of the
>>> >miniseries is going to be Cain.
>
>
>>>Mr. Hole wrote:
>>>I was never a big fan of his work on "The New Adventures of Superman."
>>>Sure he had the body to play Superman, but he could never pull off
>>>Superman`s attitude when he was in costume.
>
>
>Dan wrote:
>>Mr Hole sorry for not being more explicit. Cain refers to the son
>>of Adam and Eve and not the actor Dean Cain. Anyways thats who Cain is.
>>According to the story of A&E they had 2 sons - Cain and Abel. Abel
>>sacrificed a better lamb to God and Cain in jealousy killed Abel.
>>Cain was banished and somehow met a woman and had children. Where this
>>woman came from is something i never understood - Adam and Eve the only
>>people just had 2 children. There were no other people made in the
>>first generation except for Adam and Eve.
>
>
>Annie wrote:
>Damn! I was hoping for 4 hours of Dean Cain in nothing but a bunch of
>fig leaves....
>
>
>Sandy says:
>;)
>
>--
>Sandy -- (Annie's colleague at the NRC/NAS)
>smcdermin@erols.com
>http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/
>
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>them, "I care.""  from All I need to know about life I learned from my cat.
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In a message dated 10/20/99 1:03:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
deanishot@YAHOO.COM writes:

<< I'd like to request that the 'baby' thread be stopped before it
 starts. It was bad enough a few weeks ago on the LCFLP that
 someone was kicked/banned from posting. Some see it as a ToE
 others as an insult. I believe that it can be either depending
 on the context. Let's just agree to disagree. >>

I'm actually gonna respond on this before it is dropped. I even think I
missed most of the discussion, but there is one thing I did want to say
about
it.

While, yes, it is true that being called 'baby' - as what happened at Demi's
boards - can be considered sexist. However, in light of seeing it used as a
ToE in several fics, I feel if the author can pull it off, I don't see Lois
as being insulted by it.

If you want examples of what I mean, head on over to KathyB's nfic site (if
your over 18) an read both Winners and Camping with Clark.

In Winner's it's at a truely sensual moment, one where Clark would do just
about anything to please Lois ...

'"Clark?"

"What, baby?  Tell me what you want."  She shivered as he whispered sexily
in her ear.

She pulled his face up so she could meet his eyes.  "Take me to bed."

/me gets goosebumps <waffysigh>

In Camping with Clark, she just loves it that he feels very close to her.

' "You're the only girl I want to impress, baby," Clark said tenderly. He
brought her hand in for a soft kiss, his face clearly showing the immense
love he felt for her.

Lois' stomach flip-flopped as she listened to his voice. She always loved
it when he used that particular endearment. It meant he was feeling
especially comfortable and close to her. When they were with other people,
or just going about their daily activities, he occasionally used other
words, too, words like honey and sweetie. But, *baby*, that was reserved
for the bedroom or other private times like this. '

To me Kathy just seems to pull it off and it *works*. I've see other authors
who have been able to also. I guess it's all in just how you see it.

Anne ;) (who would let Dean 'baby' her anyway he wants ;)
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I used to have a list but I can't remember from where:(

However, this one means: Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Behind Off:)

Carolyn

>Where can I find these abbreviations (like ROTHLMBO)?  Some of them have
>really confused me because I couldn't figure them out.
>
>Tara
>
>------Original Message------
>From: Carolyn Schnall <cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU>
>To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
>Sent: October 20, 1999 5:20:14 PM GMT
>Subject: Re: OT: Adam and Eve and Dean Cain and Abel
>
>
>Oh Tara, I'm ROTHLMBO:)
>
>Carolyn
>
>>That'd be fun, wouldn't it?
>>
>>Tara
>>
>>(oh, Dean!  Your figleaf fell off! ;-)
>>
>>
>>------Original Message------
>>From: Sandy McDermin <smcdermin@EROLS.COM>
>>To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
>>Sent: October 20, 1999 3:04:44 AM GMT
>>Subject: OT: Adam and Eve and Dean Cain and Abel
>>
>>
>>Here's an amusing snippet from one of today's rec.arts.tv newsgroup
>>threads. The subject was "CBS to Air Adam and Eve Miniseries."
>>
>>
>>>> Dan Tropea wrote:
>>>> >Well CBS will be airing for next season a
>>>> >Adam and Eve miniseries. This is going to
>>>> >have a twist. The narrator of the
>>>> >miniseries is going to be Cain.
>>
>>
>>>>Mr. Hole wrote:
>>>>I was never a big fan of his work on "The New Adventures of Superman."
>>>>Sure he had the body to play Superman, but he could never pull off
>>>>Superman`s attitude when he was in costume.
>>
>>
>>Dan wrote:
>>>Mr Hole sorry for not being more explicit. Cain refers to the son
>>>of Adam and Eve and not the actor Dean Cain. Anyways thats who Cain is.
>>>According to the story of A&E they had 2 sons - Cain and Abel. Abel
>>>sacrificed a better lamb to God and Cain in jealousy killed Abel.
>>>Cain was banished and somehow met a woman and had children. Where this
>>>woman came from is something i never understood - Adam and Eve the only
>>>people just had 2 children. There were no other people made in the
>>>first generation except for Adam and Eve.
>>
>>
>>Annie wrote:
>>Damn! I was hoping for 4 hours of Dean Cain in nothing but a bunch of
>>fig leaves....
>>
>>
>>Sandy says:
>>;)
>>
>>--
>>Sandy -- (Annie's colleague at the NRC/NAS)
>>smcdermin@erols.com
>>http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/
>>
>>"Always give generously--a small bird or rodent left on the bed tells
>>them, "I care.""  from All I need to know about life I learned from my
cat.
>>-----------------------------------------------
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>>Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
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:-)  Thanks!

Tara

------Original Message------
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I used to have a list but I can't remember from where:(

However, this one means: Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Behind Off:)

Carolyn

>Where can I find these abbreviations (like ROTHLMBO)?  Some of them have
>really confused me because I couldn't figure them out.
>
>Tara
>
>------Original Message------
>From: Carolyn Schnall <cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU>
>To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
>Sent: October 20, 1999 5:20:14 PM GMT
>Subject: Re: OT: Adam and Eve and Dean Cain and Abel
>
>
>Oh Tara, I'm ROTHLMBO:)
>
>Carolyn
>
>>That'd be fun, wouldn't it?
>>
>>Tara
>>
>>(oh, Dean!  Your figleaf fell off! ;-)
>>
>>
>>------Original Message------
>>From: Sandy McDermin <smcdermin@EROLS.COM>
>>To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
>>Sent: October 20, 1999 3:04:44 AM GMT
>>Subject: OT: Adam and Eve and Dean Cain and Abel
>>
>>
>>Here's an amusing snippet from one of today's rec.arts.tv newsgroup
>>threads. The subject was "CBS to Air Adam and Eve Miniseries."
>>
>>
>>>> Dan Tropea wrote:
>>>> >Well CBS will be airing for next season a
>>>> >Adam and Eve miniseries. This is going to
>>>> >have a twist. The narrator of the
>>>> >miniseries is going to be Cain.
>>
>>
>>>>Mr. Hole wrote:
>>>>I was never a big fan of his work on "The New Adventures of Superman."
>>>>Sure he had the body to play Superman, but he could never pull off
>>>>Superman`s attitude when he was in costume.
>>
>>
>>Dan wrote:
>>>Mr Hole sorry for not being more explicit. Cain refers to the son
>>>of Adam and Eve and not the actor Dean Cain. Anyways thats who Cain is.
>>>According to the story of A&E they had 2 sons - Cain and Abel. Abel
>>>sacrificed a better lamb to God and Cain in jealousy killed Abel.
>>>Cain was banished and somehow met a woman and had children. Where this
>>>woman came from is something i never understood - Adam and Eve the only
>>>people just had 2 children. There were no other people made in the
>>>first generation except for Adam and Eve.
>>
>>
>>Annie wrote:
>>Damn! I was hoping for 4 hours of Dean Cain in nothing but a bunch of
>>fig leaves....
>>
>>
>>Sandy says:
>>;)
>>
>>--
>>Sandy -- (Annie's colleague at the NRC/NAS)
>>smcdermin@erols.com
>>http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/
>>
>>"Always give generously--a small bird or rodent left on the bed tells
>>them, "I care.""  from All I need to know about life I learned from my
cat.
>>-----------------------------------------------
>>FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com
>>Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
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In a message dated 10/20/99 3:37:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
AMCiotola@AOL.COM writes:

<< To me Kathy just seems to pull it off and it *works*. I've see other
authors
 who have been able to also. I guess it's all in just how you see it. >>

I think it also depends sometimes on how far back a story was written. Clark
didn't call Lois "honey" until I Now Pronounce You, and it's a very cute
scene, but prior to that, there were literally hundreds of Lois and Clark
stories written. I had Clark call Lois "sweetheart" in Counter Clark-wise,
but it was written two years before INPY. After INPY, I had Clark say
"honey"
in stories. I had Clark say "baby" in Always Something There to Remind Me,
but it was the alternate world's Clark, and he did not say it to her, but
rather whispered, "I know it hurts, baby,"  when he heard Lois crying in the
other room.

I admit I associate the endearment "baby" more closely to Dean than to
Clark.
I've heard Dean call Mindy and Gabby both "baby" and suspect that perhaps
he's had so many girlfriends, he uses "baby" for each of them so that in the
heat of passion he shouts out neither the wrong name nor endearment <g>

zoom
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Tara wrote:

>Has anyone written a story based on the non-wedding arc where CLois
survives
>somehow?  I found myself really liking her and feeling sorry for her by the
>end of it (she was only 13 days old and was doing her best to help Clark
and
>all!)  Just wondering.

Oh dear me, Tara, yes! Surf over to the archive or Debby's FTP site and
download her version of the argh arc. I read these stories before I read
the ep synopses (in fact, before I even realized it was LnC, and not merely
Superman from the comics), and I *still* don't have a clear picture of what
really happened on the show. That's prolly a good thing, actually. :)

I'm sorry I don't remember the names of the stories offhand, but if you get
it off the archive, the blurbs will help you. :) If you take them off
Debby's site, here's a hint: it's the stories that aren't Dawning or "Carry
Tiger," but are long. I do mean long! The last one is "The Long, Dazed
Journey from the Night." One warning:  you've got to read them all in order
to get to what you want. (Mwa ha ha!) Very, very good though. The final
paragraph (really postscript) is so moving that it literally brought (and
still does bring) tears to my eyes.

Hazel
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Have always thought Lois would annihilate any man  who called her "Baby",
but that's my perception of Lois.  The larger question is should one take
characters created by someone else and endow them with characteristics they
haven't had ?  Wellm why not?  Isn't that what writing fiction is all about?
As for readership, that 's what's  so great about this group.  There's
something for everyone.  I don;'t like comic book, sci-fi, Krypton,
other-world fantasies but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be written 'cause
lots of other folks do.  We all read what we like and ignore what we don't.
Personally, I  abhor the use of "Baby" because I think it's sexist,
demeaning and patronizing, but  my husband and I call each other "Babe".
It's your story  I say "Write it your way."

All that football talk was very timely since my current fic had Clark at
Kansas State, but I had just rejected having him play for the K.S. Korndogs.
The helmets fit OK but the shoulder pads were impossible.  Also team colors
were a big problem.  Metropolis U sounded  doable--M.U. Middle-Managers.
Mango and Mauve for colors.  Maybe not.  Guess it'll have to be Midwestern
State--MSU  Mojos, colors: Magenta and Macaroni (is that a color).
Something to ponder while I vacuum.

Am familiar with those variations on "a taco short"  but had never heard  "a
village".  I like it.  Made me wonder , though, if  anyone has tried  a
variation changing "short" to "in search of".  Gives a new slant.  Probably
already done though.  Anyway, thanks for filling  my knowledge gap.  I just
didn't remember having heard anything but "Men, can't  live with 'em, can't
live without 'em". even though I saw that very good Brat Pack movie years
ago.  I gotta get  get out more.  Jude
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I know, I know, this Star Trek thread doesn't belong here, but I couldn't
stop myself:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

42 Reasons Why Captain Kirk is Better Than Captain Picard:

One Word: Hair.

Kirk can beat up a Klingon bare-handed.

Kirk would date Beverly Crusher -- and damn the consequences!!

Kirk never drinks tea. Ever!

Diplomacy for Kirk is a phaser and a smirk.

Kirk would never sing to children in a crisis.

Kirk can almost drive a stick shift.

Kirk made do with obviously low performance technology.

Kirk never pretends to be a barber in order to gain a tactical advantage.

Kirk never once stood up and had to straighten his shirt.

Kirk looks good with a ripped shirt.

Kirk's first officer NEVER tells him to stay on the bridge.

Kirk never leaves the room to bawl somebody out.

Kirk doesn't rely on the wisdom of some dumb old janitor to get him out of
intergalactic scrapes.

Kirk never asks his bartender for advice.

Kirk never once said "Abandon ship! All hands abandon ship!"

Kirk never got "dumped" by a woman for an intergalactic busy body named
after a letter of the alphabet.

If something doesn't speak English -- it's toast.

If Kirk finds a strange spinning probe, he blows it up.

Picard never met Joan Collins.

Picard hasn't fathered any children; Kirk -- probably millions.

Kirk has a cool phaser -- not some pansy Braun mix-master.

Kirk knows how to deal with peace-loving hippy goofs.

Kirk once fought a Greek god. And won.

Kirk barely asks for suggestions. And if he does, he asks Spock only

Kirk doesn't let the doctor tell him what to do.

One Word: Fisticuffs.

You can never lock up Kirk for very long.

Kirk plays god with lesser cultures, and then exploits them for resources.

Kirk's son would never drop out to become a musician.

Kirk can climb up a Jeffries Tube and fix anything.

Kirk never hired an engineer with punk glasses.

The Klingons didn't have a word for surrender -- until they met Kirk.

Kirk's bridge is not beige.

Picard allows cats on board, while Kirk beams away even really cute things,
like Tribbles.

Kirk specifically ordered a swivel LA-Z-BOY for the bridge.

Kirk would never touch SYNTHAHOL.

Kirk can infiltrate Gangsters, Nazis, and even the Pentagon -- easily

When Kirk says "Boldly Go," he MEANS it.

Kirk traveled through The Great Barrier, met God, and wasn't even impressed.

Kirk would never let his Chief of Security wear a ponytail.

Three Words: Flying Leg Kick

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From: Yael Kfir <zaglembia@MAIL.COM>

>I know, I know, this Star Trek thread doesn't belong here, but I couldn't
>stop myself:
>
>42 Reasons Why Captain Kirk is Better Than Captain Picard:
<snip>

LOL! Yael, this are fabulous!

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At 04:52 PM 10/20/99 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 10/20/99 3:37:44 PM Central Daylight Time,
Zoom wrote:

>I admit I associate the endearment "baby" more closely to Dean than to
Clark.
>I've heard Dean call Mindy and Gabby both "baby" and suspect that perhaps
>he's had so many girlfriends, he uses "baby" for each of them so that in
the
>heat of passion he shouts out neither the wrong name nor endearment <g>
>
>zoom

Zoom,

You're too much.  The instant picture that posting conjured up had me
laughing until tears were blinding me!!!!!

Anita
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Hi Tara,

Have you ever read Debby's Arc?  It's in the archive, and posted on her site
at
ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark/Stories/.  I think it's the best series
on
the Arc I've read, and Clois survives with a twist.

Cindy

Tara Smith wrote:

> Has anyone written a story based on the non-wedding arc where CLois
survives
> somehow?  I found myself really liking her and feeling sorry for her by
the
> end of it (she was only 13 days old and was doing her best to help Clark
and
> all!)  Just wondering.
>
> Tara
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Carolyn Schnall <cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU>
> To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
> Sent: October 20, 1999 10:26:37 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: S5, Eps 1 and 2 review
>
> Ahh, the hint that launched a thousand thoughts!  Or is that just one
> simple desire?
>
> Ok, that is not quite a spoiler but I suspect the writers have scratched
> another itch:)
>
> LOL, Thanks, Kathy,
>
> Carolyn
>
> >At 2:08 PM -0500 10/18/99, Carolyn Schnall wrote:
> >
> >> Don't want to know if there will be an altClark finds his Lois story
> >>later on,
> >
> >You don't?  Darn. ;)  OK, I won't tell you. <g>
> >
> >Kathy (not even whispering episode numbers ;))
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At 04:10 PM 10/20/1999 -0500, Hazel wrote:
>Tara wrote:
>
>>Has anyone written a story based on the non-wedding arc where CLois
survives
>>somehow?  I found myself really liking her and feeling sorry for her by
the
>>end of it (she was only 13 days old and was doing her best to help Clark
and
>>all!)  Just wondering.
>
>Oh dear me, Tara, yes! Surf over to the archive or Debby's FTP site and
>download her version of the argh arc. I read these stories before I read
>the ep synopses (in fact, before I even realized it was LnC, and not merely
>Superman from the comics), and I *still* don't have a clear picture of what
>really happened on the show. That's prolly a good thing, actually. :)

Yes, you are truly blessed :)

My site address:  ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark/Stories I think it's
in
txt and doc (word 6) format and probably named something like Alt-Arc 1
through
5 (Hey, I haven't looked in a long time).

oh, heck, the titles (from my email pieces) are:

         I'll Knot Pronounce You
         Double Entendre
         Seconds Helping
         I'll Second That, or Forget Me--Please!
         Long Dazed Journey from the Night

If that's too confusing, I can email it all in many, many little pieces.
It's
a very long story though... heh-heh-heh... ;)

>I'm sorry I don't remember the names of the stories offhand,

Don't be, I don't remember either, though I recall believing I was
incredibly
clever when I was thinking them up :)

>but if you get
>it off the archive, the blurbs will help you. :) If you take them off
>Debby's site, here's a hint: it's the stories that aren't Dawning or "Carry
>Tiger," but are long. I do mean long! The last one is "The Long, Dazed
>Journey from the Night." One warning:  you've got to read them all in order
>to get to what you want. (Mwa ha ha!)

The reader can get all the nuances that way.

>Very, very good though.

Thanks :)  It almost makes me glad that the original was so bad and thus
inspirational...

>The final
>paragraph (really postscript) is so moving that it literally brought (and
>still does bring) tears to my eyes.

Aww, thank you :D  Way back when the horrid episodes first aired, I was
having
an running argument^B^B^B^B^B^B^B discussion with Zoomway on how the paid,
professional writers could have written the episodes better no matter who
stepped in (abc mostly) to ruin the original theme, "L&C get married." After
a
while of her: "Oh, yeah?" Me: "Yeah!" Her: "Oh, yeah??" Me: "Yeah!!--*I*
could
write it better." And so I tried, using the same basic ideas of the original
but (spoiler) not letting Clark look so utterly stupid (or stupid at all, I
hope :), the thing that irked me the very most about the argh.

>Hazel

Debby :)
Debby@swcp.com
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I used to have a list but I can't remember from where:(

However, this one means: Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Behind Off:)

Carolyn

>Where can I find these abbreviations (like ROTHLMBO)?  Some of them
have
>really confused me because I couldn't figure them out.
>
>Tara
>
*******************

Earlier this summer Zoom sent an email to this list that I kept that is
a definitive guide to internet acronyms.  Here is a reprint of it.

TerriAnn

Acronym Meaning
--------------------
<bg> - big grin
<eg> - evil grin
<g> - grin
<sg> - sheepish grin
<vbg> - very big grin
<vbeg> - very big evil grin
<wg> - wicked grin
AFK - Away From Keyboard (IRC Related)
BBL - Be Back Later
BRB - Be Right Back (IRC Related)
BIAF - Back In A Flash (IRC Related)
BTW - By The Way
CK - Clark Kent
CK=S - Clark Kent = Superman
DC - Dean Cain
DOCK - Defenders of Clark Kent
DOLL - Defenders of Lois Lane
EJ - Eddie Jones
FANFIC - Fan Fiction
FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
FOLC - Fan of Lois and Clark
FOLCs - Fans of Lois and Clark
GTO - Great Tongue Opportunity
HAWK - Hungry Awesome Wet Kisses
ILL - I Love Lois
IMHO - In My Humble Opinion
IMO - In My Opinion
IRC - Internet Relay Chat
IWWATFTDCIDDGWIHOA - Intelligent Woman Who Admires The Fact That Dean
Cain Is
Drop Dead Gorgeous Without Ignoring His Other Attributes
J/K - Just Kidding
JO - Jimmy Olsen
JW - Justin Whalin
KC - K Callan
K - Kryptonite
L8R - Later
L&C - Lois and Clark
LCAS - Lois and Clark Anticipation Syndrome
LCWS - Lois and Clark Withdrawl Syndrome
LNC - Lois and Clark
LL - Lois Lane
LNCTNAOS - Lois and Clark The New Adventures Of Superman
LOL - Laughing Out Loud
LS - Lane Smith
MATH - Men Admiring Teri Hatcher
ML - Michael Landes
MOM - Tara O'Shea, our list Mom
NBL - Not Bloody Likely
OIC - OH! I See
OTOH - On The Other Hand
PATHETIC - People Admiring Teri Hatcher Even Though It's Crazy
PW - Perry White
QBL - Quivering Bottom Lip
RDoLNW - Relentless Defender of Lois's New Wardrobe
ROTFL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing
ROTFLMAO - Rolling On The Floor Laughing My @$$ Off
SMAN - Superman
SOS - Sort of Spoiler
SPOCK - Shallow People Ogling Clark Kent
ST - Sexual Tension (as opposed to Star Trek)
SWOCK - Shallow Women Ogling Clark Kent
TDOCK - Tireless Defender of Clark Kent
TDOLL - Tireless Defender of Lois Lane
TH - Teri Hatcher
TIC - Tongue In Cheek
TPFIC - Tongue Planted Firmly In Cheek
TPTB - The Powers That Be
TTYL - Type/Talk To You Later
WAFF - Warm And Fuzzy Feeling
WHAM - Wistful, Heartwrenching, Agonizing Moment
WOW - Wild over Whalin
WRT - With Respect/Regards To
YASA - Yet Another Silly Acronym

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Yael said:
>>I know, I know, this Star Trek thread doesn't belong here, but I couldn't
>>stop myself:
>>
>>42 Reasons Why Captain Kirk is Better Than Captain Picard:
><snip>

And Kath replied:
>LOL! Yael, this are fabulous!
>
>Kath

I hate to post a ditto message, but ditto.  I loved these.  So, is there a
rebuttal list for the Picard fans?

Jessi
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"Picard"?)

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LOLOLOL
The one that really got me is        IWWATFTDCIDDGWIHOA

Someone must have been thinking of me....     Laurie
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At 6:20 PM -0400 10/20/99, Yael Kfir wrote:
>Kirk looks good with a ripped shirt.

Whoever wrote this list obviously never saw the first TNG movie ... that
scene where Pickard, shirtless or sleeveless, can't remember which, was
climbing hand over hand in the climax fight scene ... my friend and I about
fell out of our seats.  That man looked GOOD. I mean, like holy cow good!!!
<bg>  I had never seen Patrick Steward as a sex symbol before that movie,
but it made me a believer. Yowers! <g>

Kathy (who really shouldn't be responding to this, but argues with herself
that the post is labeled OT. <g>)

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At 9:33 AM -0400 10/20/99, Charlotte Fisler wrote:

>Oh, Sandy, why didn't you fight your editor on this one?  I don't care
>Whether the term was ever used on the show.  "Baby" was the first term
>of endearment my husband called me.

>I love the term, and think it is a sweet endearment,
>Much more so than honey.
> I'm certain that Clark would use it for his Lois
>
>It's stayin' in.  If anyone removes it, it'll be against
>my vehement protests.

You lost me -- if it's your story, who do you think is going to remove it?
Editors only have power to suggest, not dictate.  It's up to the author
whether to take editors' suggestions.  An exception would be within the
Archive, if we feel something in a story is offensive or beyond PG-13, but
then it is always up to the author whether they want to rework that section
of the story or pull the story from consideration.  But regardless, using
"baby" instead of "honey" is not something that is going to make the story
rejected from the Archive!

Now, that said, I think there is a lot to be said for keeping true to the
characters. You say that Clark would use it for Lois, but he *never* used
it on the show.  *Your* Clark may use it, but you clearly explain that he
is not the same Clark as on the show (as evidenced by several other things
you put in your story that contradicted events on the show, which you
explained away by saying that your fanfic is not supposed to use the same
characters we saw on TV.)

That is *totally* fine!  It's your story!  Just don't be surprised when
people say "Clark wouldn't say that" or "Lois wouldn't do that" because in
general, people write (and want to read) fanfic based on the characters we
saw on TV.  Otherwise, just be aware the story is about a completely
different L&C universe, with characters with the names "Lois" and "Clark",
but who are not the characters we all came to love on TV. :)

Oh, and thanks, Anne, for quoting a couple of my stories in this
discussion. (Gotta love being quoted. <g>) Yes, I do have Clark use "baby"
in a couple places, and I don't find it demeaning (even though it's not a
term my husband and I use personally).  My feeling is that Clark would
*never* use "baby" as a throw-away endearment -- he uses, and often
over-uses, "honey" for that -- but personally, I have no problem with him
using it occasionally in the most intimate of circumstands (read: in the
throes of passion).  In two of my stories (one still unfinished and
"Camping"), for example, his use of the word is one of Lois's clues for how
aroused he is during lovemaking.  Luckily for me, that theory isn't
contradicted by the show, the way casual use is.  :)

Kathy

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>Kathy Brown wrote:
>Oh, and thanks, Anne, for quoting a couple of my stories in this
>discussion...  In two of my stories (one still unfinished...

Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!  How close to done is it?  I can't wait for a new
story of yours.  I loved "Camping with Clark", and "Winners" was fantastic!!
 Terry
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At 11:02 PM -0500 10/20/99, Terry S. Horowit wrote:
>>Kathy Brown wrote:
>>Oh, and thanks, Anne, for quoting a couple of my stories in this
>>discussion...  In two of my stories (one still unfinished...
>
>Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!  How close to done is it?  I can't wait for a new
>story of yours.  I loved "Camping with Clark", and "Winners" was
fantastic!!
> Terry

Thanks, Terry!  Actually, that one is the prequel to Winners (I also have a
sequel to Winners, going, believe it or not!), and I've got a good 40+
pages written on it, but it's nowhere near done.

The story (and yes, I know you are all sick of me saying this ;)) that I'm
trying to give first priority is "the story previously known as the epic"
<g> (it actually has a title now, believe it or not. <g>), and I had been
making really good progress on it until about 2 weeks ago when I got sick.
All work temporarily stopped, and now my "real life" is going crazy. But I
did write for several hours on Sunday (my husband gave me the "gift of
time" for the nKerths by taking our daughter to see family for the weekend,
so I had a whole 36 hours to myself!!).  I'll just keep plugging away at
it, and pray it gets finished eventually. <g>

And of course, when it does, you are all going to be saying "this is IT??
She worked for 3 years and this is all we get???" <bg>

Kathy (406K and counting ... hey, Wendy, maybe I'll catch you yet <vbg>)

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Kathy Brown wrote:
>
> At 9:33 AM -0400 10/20/99, Charlotte Fisler wrote:
>
> >Oh, Sandy, why didn't you fight your editor on this one?  I don't care
> >Whether the term was ever used on the show.  "Baby" was the first term
> >of endearment my husband called me.
>
> >I love the term, and think it is a sweet endearment,
> >Much more so than honey.
> > I'm certain that Clark would use it for his Lois
> >
> >It's stayin' in.  If anyone removes it, it'll be against
> >my vehement protests.
>
> You lost me -- if it's your story, who do you think is going to remove it?

I don't want to speak for Charlotte, but I would guess she wasn't really
being literal here. I'm not her editor, nor even if I were, would I have
the power to force her do as I suggested.  Just ask the people I
actually have edited.<g>  Besides, as you say, that's not what editors
are all about.

I want to jump in here to make another point, though.  Other than the
question I brought up with Charlotte about the "baby" remark, I don't
think there was any other place where I suggested that her writing of
L&C was not "faithful" to the characters.  I mean, I always expect some
minute shades of difference in everyone's interpretations. *Everyone's.*
(I can still remember, over a year ago, some of the questions I had
about Phil's interpretation of Clark in "Montrose's Toast," for
instance, but that didn't mean I couldn't appreciate the writing itself,
nor enjoy his story.)

God knows, there were *unbelieveable* differences amongst the show's
writers within the same season at times. (Who can forget the way Clark
was made to act during the "Argggh" -- leaving poor, defenseless Lois
with Lex!  Thank heavens for Debby and her attempts to redeem him in her
own story arc.)  As long as a writer can satisfactorily explain why the
characters are acting the way they are I can swallow it or at least try
to understand what the writer was going for even if I don't agree with
it 100%. (I could *not* understand that move of Clark's in "Seconds," or
"Double Jeopardy," or whichever episode that was.  For me, *that* was
inexplicable.)

As far as Charlotte's "Revealing Cruise" goes, however, I have found the
characters to be very recognizeable. (In fact, I think my own
interpretations, in my own stories, are less "faithful.")  And, most of
the questions I had for Charlotte about characterization involved
secondary characters -- the ones *Charlotte* created.

So, don't miss Charlotte's story, whatever you do.
--
Sandy -- who can see, by the archive count, that there are now over
1,136 shades of difference.
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I know what you mean!  I do remember seeing a list like this one before
Generations came out, though, so its been out there for awhile.  I think
there's also a list of ?? reaasons Picard is better than Kirk.  There are
some that include the other 2 captains--Sisko and Janeway--as well.

Tara
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At 6:20 PM -0400 10/20/99, Yael Kfir wrote:
>Kirk looks good with a ripped shirt.

Whoever wrote this list obviously never saw the first TNG movie ... that
scene where Pickard, shirtless or sleeveless, can't remember which, was
climbing hand over hand in the climax fight scene ... my friend and I about
fell out of our seats.  That man looked GOOD. I mean, like holy cow good!!!
<bg>  I had never seen Patrick Steward as a sex symbol before that movie,
but it made me a believer. Yowers! <g>

Kathy (who really shouldn't be responding to this, but argues with herself
that the post is labeled OT. <g>)

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I'll have to check it out.  Thanks!  I'm thinking of writing something about
it, myself, after I finish the Black Circle (if I finish it! /me closes eyes
"I think I can, I think I can! <g>)

Tara

------Original Message------
From: Cynthia Haste <chaste@CYBERHOTLINE.COM>
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Sent: October 20, 1999 7:49:46 PM GMT
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Hi Tara,

Have you ever read Debby's Arc?  It's in the archive, and posted on her site
at
ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark/Stories/.  I think it's the best series
on
the Arc I've read, and Clois survives with a twist.

Cindy

Tara Smith wrote:

> Has anyone written a story based on the non-wedding arc where CLois
survives
> somehow?  I found myself really liking her and feeling sorry for her by
the
> end of it (she was only 13 days old and was doing her best to help Clark
and
> all!)  Just wondering.
>
> Tara
>
> ------Original Message------
> From: Carolyn Schnall <cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU>
> To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
> Sent: October 20, 1999 10:26:37 AM GMT
> Subject: Re: S5, Eps 1 and 2 review
>
> Ahh, the hint that launched a thousand thoughts!  Or is that just one
> simple desire?
>
> Ok, that is not quite a spoiler but I suspect the writers have scratched
> another itch:)
>
> LOL, Thanks, Kathy,
>
> Carolyn
>
> >At 2:08 PM -0500 10/18/99, Carolyn Schnall wrote:
> >
> >> Don't want to know if there will be an altClark finds his Lois story
> >>later on,
> >
> >You don't?  Darn. ;)  OK, I won't tell you. <g>
> >
> >Kathy (not even whispering episode numbers ;))
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Ok, here is part 5.  I was having problems writing it, which is why it took
so long with so little result (don't you hate writers block?)

The Black Circle Part 5

Maggie stepped through the warehouse door and slumped back against the wall
beside it.  The day had been a tiring one, starting when she had heard abou=
t
a major accident that Superman was needed at but hadn=92t appeared.  Maggie
had dropped what she was doing, which was just some minor traffic clean-up,
and gone to help with the freeway.  There had been some serious injuries in
that mess, but she couldn=92t take the risk of moving them and injuring the=
m,
and the ambulances couldn=92t get through.  She=92d had to first clear the =
way
for the ambulances, then clear away the wrecked cars to allow traffic to
pass.  The people she=92d blocked while cleaning up the mess hadn=92t been =
very
grateful. . . or even pleasant!  She=92d bet that Superman didn=92t get tha=
t
kind of language thrown at him!

Then, after that, she=92d overheard Special Agent Reed=92s call for backup =
and
had hurried to go there as soon as she could.  She=92d arrived at the
warehouse to find a woman identifying herself as Special Agent Reed and Joy
Sowell.  Joy had been unconscious and the Special Agent had demanded that
Maggie take Joy to the hospital.  After x-raying her to determine that no
she could be moved--that she was merely unconscious=97 Maggie had taken the
FBI agent to Metropolis General to be examined.  Then, of course, she=92d
returned to the warehouse and had thoroughly scanned the building and
surrounding alley.  Fortunately, the Black Circle hadn=92t had much warning
and hadn=92t managed to clear out much.  The place creeped her out, though,
even before she=92d realized what it had been used for.  There was just
something wrong in the building that she couldn=92t quite place her finger =
on.

=93Sara?=94

Maggie straightened up and opened her eyes.  Lois Lane was standing beside
her parked Jeep, just a short distance from Maggie. Maggie pushed hair that
had managed to work its way out of its pony tail out of her face and tucked
it behind her ear.

=93Hello, Ms. Lane,=94 Maggie greeted her

=93How are you doing, Sara?  I=92ve been listening to the reports all day.=
=94

Maggie smiled tiredly.  =93I=92m just a little tired.  Don=92t worry, it=92=
s nothing
a jelly donut and a double mocha wouldn=92t fix.=94  She shivered slightly.=
=20
=93Getting out of here would help, too!  This place is giving me the creeps=
!=94

=93I can understand that!=94 Lois agreed, then abruptly changed the subject=
.=20
=93Have you seen Superman today?  Recently, I mean?=94

=93No, I haven=92t.=94  Maggie shook her head.  =93I haven=92t even heard h=
im flitting
around at all since the early afternoon.  I thought he was busy somewhere .
. .=94 her voice trailed off as Lois shook her head.

=93There=92s been no sighting of him since earlier today.  I was hoping . .=
 .=94

=93Well, there=92s probably no reason to worry.  He=92s invulnerable, after=
 all,=94
Maggie said with a touch of irritation.  =93I could have used his help
earlier, though.=94

=93Where is he, then?=94

=93Well, you could always try yelling for help,=94 Maggie suggested, only h=
alf
joking.  Then she cocked her head in a listening pose.  =93Wait a minute!=
=20
There he is!=94

Lois turned to see Superman setting down lightly not far from them.  He
glanced around, then started to go over to where Inspector Parent was
discussing something with the forensics team.

=93Excuse me, Ms. Lane,=94 Maggie said and jogged over to Superman.  Lois w=
as
quick to follow.

=93Superman, I need to talk to you,=94 Maggie said, irritation faintly colo=
ring
her voice.  Superman barely glanced at her.

=93Maybe later,=94 he said casually.

Maggie grabbed his arm before he could go far.  =93Where were you earlier?=
=94
she demanded.  =93A girl almost died in a traffic accident because you didn=
=92t
show up to fly her to the hospital!=94

An odd expression flickered over his face, then it resumed its previous loo=
k
of indifference.  =93So?=94

=93So!  What do you mean =91so=92!  Where were you?  They needed your help!=
  I
needed your help!=94

=93Listen, little girl, I=92ve got work to do.  Why don=92t you run along t=
o bed
now.=94  He shook her hand off of his arm and strode away.

Maggie grabbed his arm again.  =93You promised me you=92d stay out of this
unless I asked for help!=94

=93Well, you haven=92t made much headway on this, have you!  Go home and pl=
ay
and leave the serious work for the adults.=94  He removed her hand from his
arm again and continued on his way.

Maggie stared after him, shocked.  He=92d never acted like that toward her
before!  In fact, she=92d never heard of him acting like that to anyone!  S=
he
turned to Lois, only to see that the other woman looked just as stunned as
she, Maggie, felt.

=93What was that all about?=94

=93I don=92t know,=94 Lois said slowly.  =93The only time I=92ve seen him r=
eact
anything like that was when he was exposed to red kryptonite!=94

=93Well, he=92s not going to get away with that!  I=92m not going to let hi=
m get
away with brushing me off like that!=94  Suddenly, she remembered something
Joy Sowell had told her near the beginning of the investigation.  =93Wait a
minute . . . do you remember what Agent Sowell said about some of the peopl=
e
who were investigating the Circle?  How they started acting strangely after
encountering some members of the cult?=94

=93Yes, but . . .=94 Lois looked doubtful.  =93How could Superman be affect=
ed by
those people?  He=92s not human!  Human drugs don=92t affect him!=94

=93What if its not drugs?=94 Maggie asked slowly.  =93What if its something=
 else?=94

=93Like what?  Magic?=94  She saw Maggie=92s expression and shook her head.=
=20
=93That=92s not possible!  Magic isn=92t real.=94

Maggie looked Superman, who was now deeply in conversation with Inspector
Parent, over carefully.  =93I don=92t know about that.  Didn=92t you tell m=
e
something about someone raising a ghost in your house once?  And that guy,
what=92s name?  Baron something-or-other?  The one who was causing Clark to
hallucinate his worst fear?  I=92d call that magic.=94

=93I=92d call it trickery.  They couldn=92t do anything like this!=94

=93Do you have any other explanations for this . . . this personality chang=
e?=94

=93I don=92t know.  I think you=92re tired and imagining things.  Let me ta=
lk to
him.  I can find out what=92s wrong.=94  Lois glanced around.  =93You=92ve =
done
pretty much all you can do tonight, right?=94

=93That=92s right.  But . . .=94

=93I=92ll talk to him.  You go home and get some sleep.  If you can=92t thi=
nk
clearly you won=92t be able to crack this.=94

=93I can=92t let him get away with this!   He=92s sticking his nose into my
investigation!  He swore he wouldn=92t and he just broke his promise!=94

=93Sara!=94  Lois grabbed the girls arm as Maggie started to stalk off to y=
ell
at Superman.  =93I=92m sure he=92s got a good explanation for this.=94

=93Well, I=92d love to hear it!=94 Maggie suddenly noticed that her voice w=
as
starting to rise and caught herself.   She took a deep breath, and when she
spoke again it was in a very controlled manner.  =93You=92re right, Lois.  =
I am
too tired to concentrate right now.  Tell Superman that I=92d like him to s=
can
to see if I missed anything.=94  She sighed, then shot Lois a reproving loo=
k.=20
=93You know it=92s irritating to be around someone who=92s right all the ti=
me?=94

Lois smiled slightly.  =93It=92s not always that bad.  Go home.=94

=93Ok, I=92m going.=94  Maggie took one last look around the area, then too=
k off
at a run towards her apartment.

It didn=92t take her long to get there.  She paused in the alley beside the
apartment to do a quick spin-change back into her civilian clothes before
going up to her apartment door.  As she started to put the key in the lock,
the door swung open.  She froze for a second.  Lucy wasn=92t here, right no=
w.=20
She was staying at her boyfriends tonight.  Besides Lucy never left the doo=
r
unlocked.  Maggie put her keys away before cautiously pushing the door open
further.

=93Welcome home, Miss Carmichael.=94

Maggie peered into the darkened living room.  She could just make out a
shadowy figure standing beside the curtained window.

=93Who are you?  What are you doing in my apartment?=94

=93Who I am doesn=92t matter, Miss Carmichael.  You need help with the Blac=
k
Circle.  I=92m here to give it.=94

tbc . . .

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Hey Folcs,
funny that you guys talk about Clark using "Baby" as an endearment for Lois,
since just two months ago I had the same discussion with our editor Georgia
when we went through the editing of "Forever Young" by the German L&C
Fanfiction Team. I had Clark call "sweety" in one of the first chapters of
the
story and I had him call her "Baby" in a later chapter. Georgia pointed out
that Clark neither called Lois "Sweety" nor "Baby" during the show and that
"Honey" seemed to be his second name for her. She also pointed out that men
usually seem to stick to their endearments once they have started to use
them
<g> and she certainly had a point there, as Zoom's very funny post <g> about
Dean for example obviously calling all his girlfriends "Baby" proves.

In our story I ended up changing "Sweety" in "Honey" since I only had used
it
because the German equivalent of "Honey" was so unnerving in the show that
most
of the German fans couldn't stand it anymore and the German fanfiction
authors
seem to strictly avoid it in their fanfiction. So when we translated the
story,
we involuntarily translated the other endearments without thinking and there
was no real reason for not staying into the show's continuity.

"Baby" was different though. I wanted it to remain in the story because I've
always liked Kathy's idea of Clark using it as a more intimate and private
endearment for Lois, that she brought up in "Camping with Clark". It seemed
so
sweet to me and so "Clark" that I integrated it into my own personal L&C
Universe, which after all these years of reading fanfiction no longer is
only
imprinted by what the aired show gave us, but also by a lot of the great
stories I read. In the story Clark called "Baby" to himself when he was
feeling
lonely and missing Lois terribly. I thought that it was a very intimate
moment
and therefor appropriate so my "Baby" remained in the story :-).

I don't like to break with the show's continuity for a reason though. If I
detected that I let Clark call Lois "Baby" just because *I* would like to be
called "Baby" by him (or even worse, by Dean <g>), I wouldn't do it. It
would
be the first step to a "Mary Sue"-Story and I personnally hate those. Lois &
Clark fanfiction should be about to Lois and Clark and not about the poeple
who
write the stories. I wouldn't detest a story only because an author used
another endearment as "honey" and I also wouldn't call the story a
Mary-Sue-Story only because of that if the author would stay "in character"
for
the rest of the story. What I want to say is: The writers should ask
themselves
why they want to break with things the show invented when they're doing it.
Is
there a reason for it? Is it "in character" for the show's characters as the
author sees them? If the answer is yes, then go ahead!

take care
Nicole
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On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:43:07 -0500 Kathy Brown
<kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM> wrote:

> Kathy (406K and counting ... hey, Wendy, maybe I'll catch
> you yet <vbg>)

Ah, but Kathy, it's not me you have to catch now! The nfic
version of LabRat's 'Caped Fear' is almost twice as long,
in wordcount, as my 'Congo'. People have been talking about
1MB....

Wendy
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Nicole wrote:
<< Lois & Clark fanfiction should be about to Lois and Clark and not about
the
poeple who write the stories. >>

How can you divorce the two? As a writer of both fanfic and non-fanfic, my
life experiences are thoroughly woven into my stories, *all* of my stories.
I
don't go as far to give my experiences to Lois and Clark if they don't fit,
but of course I use my own life (and, much to their dismay, my friends' ;)
as
inspiration. Most often in fanfic, I put myself in the little parts (ie I'm
not going to write a story about L&C writing a thesis or taking an exam ;)
But
I have to add parts that are important to me, and often have some bearing on
my own life, to make the story mine. For an extreme example, both Emptiness
in
Harmony (main character L&C's daughter) and A Dying Flame were inspired by
the
same event in my own life. They were some of my first fanfics, but I can
still
see "me" in the details of my more recent stories, though, IMO, I now mask
these details better.

On a completely different note, I have been doing research on gifted and
prodigious for a non-fanfic story I'm working on for a fiction-writing
class.
Here's what the author writes about one of the children: "In some respects
Randy was like a serial novelist or formula writer, using a central
character
in a number of slightly varied adventures. In the tradition of Dickens,
Conan
Doyle, and the creator of the Hardy Boys, FW Dixon, Randy produced two
separate series. The first borrowed the 'Dr. Who' character from the BBC
television series, showcasing him in a number of interglactic adventures.
The
second featured a Victorian sleuth of Randy's own creation..."

When I read that passage I thought *fanfiction,* even though the author
doesn't use the word :) BTW, I doubt anyone's interested, but the above
passage is from the book Nature's Gambit: Child Prodigies and the
Development
of Human Potential, by David Henry Feldman, with Lynn T. Goldsmith.

-Christy
 kubitc@kenyon.edu

* * * * * * * * * *

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the solid furniture." -Fitzgerald
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> Nicole wrote:
> << Lois & Clark fanfiction should be about to Lois and Clark and not about
the
> poeple who write the stories. >>

and Christy responded:

> How can you divorce the two? As a writer of both fanfic and non-fanfic, my
> life experiences are thoroughly woven into my stories, *all* of my
stories.

Well, obviously we all bring our life experiences to the story; that's
what makes our stories unique, but the important point is to check our
characterizations against canon, instead of just saying, "well, that's
what *I* would do in that situation..."

I'll use an example from my own work:  In Second Chances, one of my
early stories, I had Lois read a book while Clark was off being
Superman, and implied that she often passed the time of his absences
this way.  Looking back, I think that was a mistake -- I know that's
what *I* would do, if it were me, but I don't think Lois would do that
... I see her as wanting something more active to do.  Maybe I should
have had her exercise or something... In that same story, I named their
doctor after my doctor, but I think that's perfectly legitimate, more
along the lines you were talking about, Christy.

Anyway, that's the sort of thing I'm thinking of...
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If you are the squeamish type ignore this message.

Made you look!

This is your last chance!

In the movies/TV they make it look really easy to
dislocate ones shoulder to loosen the ropes and then
pop the shoulder back into place.

What does it take to dislocate a shoulder?
Can a person be trained to do this?
How easy is it to pop back into place?
How soon after can you really use the are again?

James

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>What does it take to dislocate a shoulder?
>Can a person be trained to do this?
>How easy is it to pop back into place?
>How soon after can you really use the are again?

Owie!  I partially dislocated my shoulder once, playing softball.  Because
it was only partially dislocated, it went back into place on its own when I
moved my arm in just the right way, but even though it was only a partial
dislocation and was only "out" for maybe a minute, the muscles and tendons
and such were =not= happy, and it was maybe three weeks before I could use
the arm comfortably.  There were some residual symptoms (twinging if I
reached too far, or tried to lift something at arms' length) for some time
after that.  So I'm guessing this is =not= something anyone would want to
voluntarily do, but perhaps the medical types on the list can be more
specific.

Becky

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> Orthopedics isn't my specialty, but in a general way I think I can answer
you.  When you dislocate a joint, you
> cause damage to the ligaments, tendons and muscles that hold everything
together.  You can use the area
> afterwards, but it's going to hurt like the dickens until you give it a
chance to heal.  How long is another
> question--at least a week or so at least, I'd say, before you should get
out of the sling, and the joint would
> need coddling for awhile after that, at least in my judgement.  You can't
really rely on the movies for accuracy
> in medicine.  If you need your character to do this, however, say, to get
out of some lethal situation, it should
> be possible, given enough determination, desperation, or both.  But it
would hurt.

As for your other question, I'm afraid I can't answer you very well, but I
do know that some double jointed persons
don't fit into the above category, and can actually do what you suggested
fairly easily.  I wouldn't vouch for the
health of their joints in later life, though.  I'd bet traumatic arthritis
would be the least they would have to
deal with.

Nan

> In the movies/TV they make it look really easy

> to dislocate ones shoulder to loosen the ropes and

> then pop the shoulder back into place.

> What does it take to dislocate a shoulder?

> Can a person be trained to do this?
> How easy is it to pop back into place?
> How soon after can you really use the are again?
>
> James
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>What does it take to dislocate a shoulder?
>Can a person be trained to do this?
>How easy is it to pop back into place?
>How soon after can you really use the are again?
>
>James

James, I can't tell you about shoulders, but I once accidently dislocated
my two-year-old's wrist. I'm not sure what was worse -- her pain or my
overwhelming feelings of guilt! (I reached across my bed to help pull her
up onto it. I was holding her by on hand, pulling her upwards, and it
just... happened. DON'T try this at home.) She was crying hysterically and
I was absolutely frantic. A friend of mine knew of a neighbor around the
corner with expertise in replacing dislocated limbs, because a child of
hers had a tendency towards it. (more on this topic later) So we raced
around the corner, with me trying helpless to hold this poor kid on my
shoulder as immobile as possible -- because if her hand shifted as much as
a centimeter, it clearly set off a whole new wave of pain.

When the "expert" opened the door, my heart sank. Remember those
stereotypes of Russian grandmothers in babushkas? Well, she was Jewish and
it was a kerchief, but it's the same general idea. :) I couldn't picture
*this* lady being able to take care of my poor daughter's wrist.

But she did. In about two seconds.

The tears stopped completely! She was clearly in no more pain. She snuffled
a bit more, then the woman pulled out a taffy -- a strict no-no in my book.
I wanted to protest, but felt it would hardly be appropriate under the
circumstances! And it turns out it was a good thing I didn't, because she
used the taffy to make sure the wrist was back in place -- she offered it
to her, then pulled it upwards at the last second, so my daughter twisted
her wrist and reached upwards to get it. Brilliant woman, huh? And prolly
without a high school education, much less a medical degree! ;)

So I can tell you, James, that dislocated wrists have no lingering pain or
damage.

As to shoulders -- well, Becky told her story, but I can also mention that
there's a Dick Francis novel in which the main character suffers from a
weakness -- his right shoulder is easily dislocated. At one point in the
story, the shoulder pops out of the socket and, clearly in agony, he has to
talk a woman through the process of putting it back in place. Once it was
fixed, though, it seemed okay. Francis is surely not a medical doctor, but
he does have a history for researching any subject very thoroughly before
he writes about it. Becky's story is personal, though, so you might want to
trust that one more. :)

(Sorry I don't know the title! Maybe someone else can help by supplying it?)

Hazel
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> > What does it take to dislocate a shoulder?
>
> > Can a person be trained to do this?
> > How easy is it to pop back into place?
> > How soon after can you really use the are again?

Popping a shoulder back into place usually can't be done by the person with
the dislocation because it's very difficult to hold the dislocated arm in
the correct position (arm bent, forearm across waist, elbow at side) and
pivot the forearm out to the side until the joint returns to its normal
place--with just one hand.  I know how to do this because my husband's
shoulder used to pop out at intervals (with very little provocation--easy to
get out, tough to get in), and I had to put it back in for him.  It hurts
like crazy to put back in and is sore enough for the rest of the day that
you can hardly use it.

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Breaking off the kiss he gazes into her dark eyes, bright with unshed tears.
Caressing her cheek his special way, and asked, "Will you marry me?"

        Lois gives him that smoldering smile, and said softly, "Yes."
Sliding her hands up his chest, slips her arms up behind his neck, she
leaned up and kissed the pulse at his throat,  "Yes," she whispered.
Standing up on her toes, giving his earlobe a soft nip, "Yes," she breaths
into his ear.

        Clark breathing with effort and feeling very warm, looked down at
Lois seeing she's as flushed as he.  Attempting to control the situation, to
hold to their promise to wait until they were married, he backs off a half a
step.

        Lois clutches at his jacket lapels, cries out, "No!"

        Clark startled, reaches for her, and then realized she's looking
past his shoulder.  Glancing back over his shoulder he sees Zara and Ching.
They walk over, each grabbed an arm, as they pulled him away from Lois. His
heels dragged on the floor as he struggled ineffectively against them,  he
reached out to Lois.

        Lois had tears streaming down her cheeks.  She stepped forward, her
legs gave way as she collapsed to the floor.

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Jessi wrote:
>>
So, is there a rebuttal list for the Picard fans?
<<

There you go, folcs - 99(!!) Reasons why Captain Picard is better than
Captain Kirk

Yael (Who will probably be kicked out of the list for filling it with OT
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Picard vs. Kirk

99. If Kirk had been killed in the first episode, the show would have been
reduced to 30 minutes of good acting.
98. Picard has learned patience. Kirk couldn't learn the alphabet.
97. Kirk didn't have the brains to read a book or appreciate fictional
characters like Dixon Hill.
96. Picard admits he's made mistakes. It takes a real man to admit their
errors.
93. Picard can walk the walk.
92. Picard can talk the talk.
91. Kirk can do neither without seeming like an ape.
88. If Kirk had met the Borg, they wouldn't have assimilated him. They would
have discarded him as space debris.
87. The Borg only assimilate intelligent life.
86. Picard cares if the crew lives or dies.
82. Kirk left the Enterprise to become a police captain.
81. Picard is still on the Enterprise.
80. Kirk has not aged well.
79. Picard has aged beautifully.
76. Kirk never said "Abandon ship! All hands abandon ship!" because he was
already out of there at the first hint of trouble.
75. A holodeck would have been a waste to Kirk.
74. Picard can pilot the Enterprise though a mine field.
73. Picard drinks Earl Grey tea.
72. Picard can actually speak to an android of high intelligence and be
understood.
71. Kirk had low performance technology because he couldn't handle high
performance technology.
69. Kirk doesn't have a maneuver named after him.
68. Picard's science officer has perfect recall, knows the Vulcan neck
pinch, and *never* sleeps.
67. Kirk goes into the past, Picard goes into the future.
66. Picard's Chief of Security wears chain mail.
65. When going into warp, Picard's Enterprise changes shape and disappears
in a brilliant flash of light. Kirk's Enterprise just makes a whooshing
sound.
63. Kirk never ran around Starfleet Headquarters firing phasers at Admirals.
62. Picard mastered the flute in *twenty-five minutes*.
61. When Picard's Enterprise cloaks, it can travel through solid rock.
60. Picard never got obsessed by the idea of killing a *cloud*.
59. When Picard gets captured by Romulans, he fights his way out. When Kirk
gets captured by Romulans, he pretends that he's dead until they go away.
58. Picard got stabbed in the chest and lived.
57. If Kirk wants a Bird of Prey, he has to steal one. Picard just has to
ask, and the Klingons give him one.
56. Picard's nemesis: an omnipotent malevolent being. Kirk's nemesis: a
beer-bellied liar.
55. When Kirk was Picard's age, they made him retire.
54. Kirk's first officer plays chess and loses. Picard's first officer plays
poker and wins.
53. Picard's food processor: a transporter with voice recognition. Kirk's
food processor: a sliding door with buttons.
52. When he's bored, Picard reads Shakespeare.
49. Picard's Enterprise has *windows*.
48. Picard is assigned to protect the Klingon Empire from invasion by
Romulans.
Kirk is assigned to protect bins of wheat from invasion by tiny fuzzballs.
47. Picard succeeds in protecting the Klingon Empire from invasion by
Romulans. Kirk fails to protect bins of wheat from invasion by tiny
fuzzballs. 46. Picard got blasted in the chest and lived.
45. Picard's first officer never borrows the Enterprise without asking
first.
44. Picard's engineer has X-Ray vision.
43. One word: replicators.
42. Picard makes a much better Romulan.
39 Two words: No toupet.
38. Picard is a man of the world from Paris. Kirk is just a stupid farmer
from Iowa. (Note from Greg: not everyone from Iowa is a stupid farmer.)
37. Picard has style.
36. One word: Fencing.
34. Picard decoded the last message of the Creators almost singlehandedly.
33. Picard likes a good breakfast.
31. Picard never wore crumpled or torn uniforms.
30. Picard refused to take a command until he had enough experience. Kirk
took a command as soon as he could - and was captured and held prisoner on
every third mission.
29. If Picard ever met Trelane, he'd win the fencing duel.
26. Picard has never toyed around with history, but if he had to, he always
restored it as it was.
25. Picard never gave his officers childish nicknames like "Bones" and
"Scotty".
24. Picard's first officer doesn't play some wimpy harp - he jams with his
trombone.
23. Picard speaks Klingonese liquidly.
22. Picard's hobby is more interesting than collecting books - he's the 24th
century Indy Jones.
21. If Picard finds an alien computer, he knows how to deal with it and does
not have to blow it up.
20. Picard didn't have to cheat at the Kobayashi Maru Test.
19. Two words: designer shuttles
17. Picard once saved the Enterprise from terrorists, all alone, only with a
laser cutter. Bruce Willis would be proud.
16. Picard was challenged by a god eight days a week - and always won.
15. Picard's doctor looks better than Kirk's and never said:
"******,(Censored by Greg) Jean-Luc, I'm a doctor, not an escalator!"
14. To capture Picard, you need a real trap. To capture Kirk, you say: "Hey,
Captain, here's a pit" and push him in.
13. Picard's chief engineer has never been drunken in service.
12. Picard's second officer can paint WELL!
11. Picard never destroyed a ship, only in self-defense.
And here are the Top Ten reasons why Picard is REALLY better than Kirk: 10.
Picard's officers get promoted. Kirk's get court-martialed.
9. When Picard's senior officers get killed, they *stay dead*.
8. Picard can save his ship being ensnared on the holodeck.
7. Picard never had problems finding dilithium.
5. Picard's picture is beside the word confidence in the dictionary.
4. Picard has the guts to stand among hundreds of Klingons and argue with
them.
3. Kirk never knew Scotty lied to him about the status of the engines
because he didn't understand the Enterprise didn't use gas.
2. Picard's science officer has a detachable head.
And here's for the real, ultimate, beating reason:
1. Picard LIVES!

If you take an Oriental person and spin him around several times, does he
become disoriented?

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<< You can't really rely on the movies for accuracy in medicine.  If you
need
your character to do this, however, say, to get out of some lethal
situation,
it should be possible, given enough determination, desperation, or both.
But
it would hurt. >>

But you can rely on sports <g> If anyone saw the last baseball game in the
play-off series between the Boston Red Sox and Cleveland Indians, a player
(Kenny Lofton) dislocated his shoulder by sliding into first base headfirst.
(This, BTW, is something baseball experts recommend you not do, especially
at
first base.) Anyway, he was in massive pain and didn't move from a
sprawled-out-on-the-ground position until trainers came. He couldn't stand
up
by himself or move his arm. He held it in position (elbow bent, pressed to
his
torso) with his other arm. Later the news came that he had indeed dislocated
his shoulder and wouldn't be playing for a while.

Personally, I have partially dislocated my elbow and it didn't hurt at all
when it happened! I was only 8 yrs old, playing outside during recess, and
sort of fell/twisted off the monkey bars. I didn't cry or run inside, just
switched from monkey bars to swings and continued playing <g> I noticed a
problem when recess ended, we went inside, and I couldn't move my elbow to
take my coat off. It only started to hurt when the techs were positioning it
for x-rays. It was also broken, so I can't accurately say how long it took
the
dislocation to heal.

<< As for your other question, I'm afraid I can't answer you very well, but
I
do know that some double jointed persons don't fit into the above category,
and can actually do what you suggested fairly easily.  I wouldn't vouch for
the health of their joints in later life, though.  I'd bet traumatic
arthritis
would be the least they would have to deal with. >>

As a result of this injury, I am now sort of double-jointed, in that I can
bend my elbow "backwards," and it really freaks people out when I do it
without realizing ;) (This happened because, during rehab, it was easier to
bend the elbow down, straight, then up, to my shoulder; I also can't touch
my
shoulder with that hand.) I can also speak to the arthritis; I do have
arthritis in my elbow and it gets painful when weather changes (especially
for
the worse). Makes me feel old, since I'm only 21 ;)

-Christy
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"An idea ran back and forward in his head like a blind man, knocking over
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Don't feel too bad, Christy.  I acquired a shoulder with some traumatic
arthritis at the age of 22 from a
mishandled judo throw.  It also hurts when the weather changes.  One
consolation, however.  At 51 it is no
worse now than it was back then, and I never acquired any other arthritis at
all, at least yet.  And I can
still take a judo throw almost as well now as I could at 22.

Nan

kubitc wrote:

> << You can't really rely on the movies for accuracy in medicine.  If you
need
> your character to do this, however, say, to get out of some lethal
situation,
> it should be possible, given enough determination, desperation, or both.
But
> it would hurt. >>
>
> But you can rely on sports <g> If anyone saw the last baseball game in the
> play-off series between the Boston Red Sox and Cleveland Indians, a player
> (Kenny Lofton) dislocated his shoulder by sliding into first base
headfirst.
> (This, BTW, is something baseball experts recommend you not do, especially
at
> first base.) Anyway, he was in massive pain and didn't move from a
> sprawled-out-on-the-ground position until trainers came. He couldn't stand
up
> by himself or move his arm. He held it in position (elbow bent, pressed to
his
> torso) with his other arm. Later the news came that he had indeed
dislocated
> his shoulder and wouldn't be playing for a while.
>
> Personally, I have partially dislocated my elbow and it didn't hurt at all
> when it happened! I was only 8 yrs old, playing outside during recess, and
> sort of fell/twisted off the monkey bars. I didn't cry or run inside, just
> switched from monkey bars to swings and continued playing <g> I noticed a
> problem when recess ended, we went inside, and I couldn't move my elbow to
> take my coat off. It only started to hurt when the techs were positioning
it
> for x-rays. It was also broken, so I can't accurately say how long it took
the
> dislocation to heal.
>
> << As for your other question, I'm afraid I can't answer you very well,
but I
> do know that some double jointed persons don't fit into the above
category,
> and can actually do what you suggested fairly easily.  I wouldn't vouch
for
> the health of their joints in later life, though.  I'd bet traumatic
arthritis
> would be the least they would have to deal with. >>
>
> As a result of this injury, I am now sort of double-jointed, in that I can
> bend my elbow "backwards," and it really freaks people out when I do it
> without realizing ;) (This happened because, during rehab, it was easier
to
> bend the elbow down, straight, then up, to my shoulder; I also can't touch
my
> shoulder with that hand.) I can also speak to the arthritis; I do have
> arthritis in my elbow and it gets painful when weather changes (especially
for
> the worse). Makes me feel old, since I'm only 21 ;)
>
> -Christy
>  kubitc@kenyon.edu
>
> * * * * * * * * * *
>
> "An idea ran back and forward in his head like a blind man, knocking over
the solid furniture." -Fitzgerald
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My sister dislocated her knee and she needed to have surgery to put it back
into place.  They had to cut a ligament and everything.

Kenny Lofton dislocated his shoulder sliding inot first base (stupid thing
to
do if you know anything about baseball or softball) and he couldn't get up
for a few minutes.  I know he was hospitlaized over night and he may have to
have surgery

Alicia
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Have never dislocated anything, but don't contortionists regularly practice
that sort of thing.  I seem to recall that Houdini  dislocated parts of his
body to get out of those chains and ropes.  Or maybe that's just one of
those weird legends surrounding his exploits.  Jude
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In a message dated 10/21/99 10:58:35 AM Central Daylight Time,
mr_d8a@YAHOO.COM writes:

<< What does it take to dislocate a shoulder?
 Can a person be trained to do this?
 How easy is it to pop back into place?
 How soon after can you really use the are again?
  >>

My father was captain of a tumbling (acrobat) team in high school. He said
they were vaulting a sawhorse one day and one boy made a bad vault and
dislocated both shoulders. However within the week he was okay. On Lethal
Weapon, Riggs seems to hold his arm in place and smash his shoulder into the
wall to put it back in place. He seems to dislocate it often. Don't have any
idea if that would really work, but it sounds like swapping the witch for
the
devil to me <g> Houdini was said to have the ability to dislocate several
joints to help in his escape tricks (straitjackets, manacles, etc) Maybe
reading up on Houdini would help you with the part about people deliberately
dislocating joints.

As to the endearment "baby" I must say, I hate it <g> Just having Austin
Powers say it is one example of why I hate it. Not because I hate him saying
it, I don't, I even have a wav of that, but it's because (as in that
example)
"baby" has become so generic that it's the catchall endearment without being
really endearing. The only "Clark" it sounds natural coming from is Gable.
"How ya doin', baby?"  Even he used it generically for most women. There's
also the Big Bopper, "Hellllloooooo, baaaaaby". Then there's Baby Gunderson,
and that's the only time I ever heard Clark address someone as "baby". . .
'nuff said ;)

In a message dated 10/21/99 12:39:24 AM Central Daylight Time,
smcdermin@EROLS.COM writes:

<<
 God knows, there were *unbelieveable* differences amongst the show's
 writers within the same season at times. (Who can forget the way Clark
 was made to act during the "Argggh" -- leaving poor, defenseless Lois
 with Lex!  >>

You mean like in Barbarians at the Planet where Clark said he loved Lois and
knew she was the woman he wanted to spend his life with and that he had to
stop her from accepting Lex's proposal because even Martha said Lex was a
monster and Clark had to do whatever it took to keep Lois away from him, but
Clark's feelings got hurt because Lois wanted Superman instead of him and so
he broke her heart and told her to "get in bed with the devil!"  *That* out
of character Clark? <g>  Sorry, I just wanted to see how long I could make a
run-on sentence ;)

Zoom (who felt the list of things that allegedly make Picard "better" than
Kirk actually made Picard sound wussier ... oooh, mastered the flute in 25
minutes! <g> And Kathy, don't ever mention that man shirtless again, I had a
nightmare flashback to when my grandpa's robe fell open one Christmas ...
ewww, I've been traumatized ;)
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At 2:44 PM -0400 10/21/99, Anita Dicker wrote:
>Hello
>This is just a test.  This is just an excerpt from a story that I am
>working on.
>The total story is a month from completion.  (with luck)

Anita, the story excerpt came through fine ... sounds like an interesting
story!  Keep working! :)

One thing I need to point out -- from the exerpt you posted, you frequently
switch tenses in your story, from past to present tense, often in the same
sentence.

>Clark startled, reaches for her, and then realized she's looking past his
>>shoulder.

"startled" --> past tense, good.
"reaches" --> present tense, bad! <g>
"realized --> past tense, good! :)

Fiction is always written in past tense.  Mixing tenses is something you
will want to be sure to fix before you send your story out to your private
editors, and especially before you submit it to the Archive.

Good luck on your story!

Kathy

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At 3:59 PM -0400 10/21/99, The Zoomway wrote:

>Zoom (who felt the list of things that allegedly make Picard "better" than
>Kirk actually made Picard sound wussier ... oooh, mastered the flute in 25
>minutes! <g> And Kathy, don't ever mention that man shirtless again, I had
a
>nightmare flashback to when my grandpa's robe fell open one Christmas ...
>ewww, I've been traumatized ;)

You don't know what you're missing, Zoom. That man had muscles on top of
his muscles ... yeah, baby! <eg>

Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:26:47 -0500
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From:         Carolyn Schnall <cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU>
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Glad to see that list again:)

Thanks,
Carolyn

>I used to have a list but I can't remember from where:(
>
>However, this one means: Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Behind Off:)
>
>Carolyn
>
>>Where can I find these abbreviations (like ROTHLMBO)?  Some of them
>have
>>really confused me because I couldn't figure them out.
>>
>>Tara
>>
>*******************
>
>Earlier this summer Zoom sent an email to this list that I kept that is
>a definitive guide to internet acronyms.  Here is a reprint of it.
>
>TerriAnn
>
>
>
>Acronym Meaning
>--------------------
><bg> - big grin
><eg> - evil grin
><g> - grin
><sg> - sheepish grin
><vbg> - very big grin
><vbeg> - very big evil grin
><wg> - wicked grin
>AFK - Away From Keyboard (IRC Related)
>BBL - Be Back Later
>BRB - Be Right Back (IRC Related)
>BIAF - Back In A Flash (IRC Related)
>BTW - By The Way
>CK - Clark Kent
>CK=S - Clark Kent = Superman
>DC - Dean Cain
>DOCK - Defenders of Clark Kent
>DOLL - Defenders of Lois Lane
>EJ - Eddie Jones
>FANFIC - Fan Fiction
>FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
>FOLC - Fan of Lois and Clark
>FOLCs - Fans of Lois and Clark
>GTO - Great Tongue Opportunity
>HAWK - Hungry Awesome Wet Kisses
>ILL - I Love Lois
>IMHO - In My Humble Opinion
>IMO - In My Opinion
>IRC - Internet Relay Chat
>IWWATFTDCIDDGWIHOA - Intelligent Woman Who Admires The Fact That Dean
>Cain Is
>Drop Dead Gorgeous Without Ignoring His Other Attributes
>J/K - Just Kidding
>JO - Jimmy Olsen
>JW - Justin Whalin
>KC - K Callan
>K - Kryptonite
>L8R - Later
>L&C - Lois and Clark
>LCAS - Lois and Clark Anticipation Syndrome
>LCWS - Lois and Clark Withdrawl Syndrome
>LNC - Lois and Clark
>LL - Lois Lane
>LNCTNAOS - Lois and Clark The New Adventures Of Superman
>LOL - Laughing Out Loud
>LS - Lane Smith
>MATH - Men Admiring Teri Hatcher
>ML - Michael Landes
>MOM - Tara O'Shea, our list Mom
>NBL - Not Bloody Likely
>OIC - OH! I See
>OTOH - On The Other Hand
>PATHETIC - People Admiring Teri Hatcher Even Though It's Crazy
>PW - Perry White
>QBL - Quivering Bottom Lip
>RDoLNW - Relentless Defender of Lois's New Wardrobe
>ROTFL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing
>ROTFLMAO - Rolling On The Floor Laughing My @$$ Off
>SMAN - Superman
>SOS - Sort of Spoiler
>SPOCK - Shallow People Ogling Clark Kent
>ST - Sexual Tension (as opposed to Star Trek)
>SWOCK - Shallow Women Ogling Clark Kent
>TDOCK - Tireless Defender of Clark Kent
>TDOLL - Tireless Defender of Lois Lane
>TH - Teri Hatcher
>TIC - Tongue In Cheek
>TPFIC - Tongue Planted Firmly In Cheek
>TPTB - The Powers That Be
>TTYL - Type/Talk To You Later
>WAFF - Warm And Fuzzy Feeling
>WHAM - Wistful, Heartwrenching, Agonizing Moment
>WOW - Wild over Whalin
>WRT - With Respect/Regards To
>YASA - Yet Another Silly Acronym
>
>
>
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>
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Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Behind Off, or Rolling On The Floor
Laughing My Brains Out

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From:         James Tull <mr_d8a@YAHOO.COM>
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Thank you all for your input.  I think I can opt for Machismo and double-
jointed.

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Emerging from my self-imposed lurkdom status, for a brief moment of off
topic
conversation! ;)

At 03:11 PM 21/10/99 -0500, Kathy wrote:
>You don't know what you're missing, Zoom. That man had muscles on top of
>his muscles ... yeah, baby! <eg>

Have to agree with you there, Kathy <g>  The man does have a certain 'je ne
sais quoi' in the sex-appeal department, IMHO. Oooh. ;)  THOUGH -- I also
think
that Zoom's right about the comparative lists.  The one for Kirk was much
more
fun!  I mean, lets face it, who cares about Dixon Hill on some holodeck when
you can blow up spinning alien probes in space!  YEAH BABY!  Heehee. <bg>

...we now return you to your regularily scheduled Lois & Clark fanfiction
chat.. ;)
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<html><div>Emerging from my self-imposed lurkdom status, for a brief
moment of off topic conversation! ;)</div>
<br>
<div>At 03:11 PM 21/10/99 -0500, Kathy wrote:</div>
<div>&gt;You don't know what you're missing, Zoom. That man had muscles
on top of</div>
<div>&gt;his muscles ... yeah, baby! &lt;eg&gt;</div>
<br>
<div>Have to agree with you there, Kathy &lt;g&gt;&nbsp; The man does
have a certain 'je ne sais quoi' in the sex-appeal department, IMHO.
Oooh. ;)&nbsp; THOUGH -- I also think that Zoom's right about the
comparative lists.&nbsp; The one for Kirk was much more fun!&nbsp; I
mean, lets face it, who cares about Dixon Hill on some holodeck when you
can blow up spinning alien probes in space!&nbsp; YEAH BABY!&nbsp;
Heehee. &lt;bg&gt;</div>
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<div>...we now return you to your regularily scheduled Lois &amp; Clark
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In a message dated 10/21/99 1:56:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL writes:

<< As to shoulders -- well, Becky told her story, but I can also mention
that
 there's a Dick Francis novel in which the main character suffers from a
 weakness -- his right shoulder is easily dislocated. At one point in the
 story, the shoulder pops out of the socket and, clearly in agony, he has to
 talk a woman through the process of putting it back in place. Once it was
 fixed, though, it seemed okay. Francis is surely not a medical doctor, but
 he does have a history for researching any subject very thoroughly before
 he writes about it. Becky's story is personal, though, so you might want to
 trust that one more. :)

 (Sorry I don't know the title! Maybe someone else can help by supplying
it?)

 Hazel
  >>
Wow, finally pulled out of lurkdom -- by Dick Francis!  I know I've also
read
that particular novel, but like Hazel can't remember the title.  As to
research on the subject, he had quite a bit of personal experience with
shoulder dislocations. Dick Francis was a famous steeplechase jockey in the
1950's, and became an author (he's written about forty novels as of this
fall) after he retired from racing.  In his autobiography The Sport of
Queens,
 he spends a few pages (p. 191 through 193 in the paperback) telling about
his own experiences with dislocated shoulders (both of them -- about six
times each), and goes into a good bit of detail about the whole process.
This
may not help, but I just couldn't resist. :-)

Maureen (a long time Dick Francis fan)

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You can't just leave us hanging with this!  Send us more!

Tara

------Original Message------
From: Anita Dicker <abooks@BELLSOUTH.NET>
To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
Sent: October 21, 1999 6:44:47 PM GMT
Subject: Test Story Send

Hello
This is just a test.  This is just an excerpt from a story that I am
working on.
The total story is a month from completion.  (with luck)

--------------------------------
Breaking off the kiss he gazes into her dark eyes, bright with unshed tears.
Caressing her cheek his special way, and asked, "Will you marry me?"

Lois gives him that smoldering smile, and said softly, "Yes."  Sliding her
hands up his chest, slips her arms up behind his neck, she leaned up and
kissed the pulse at his throat,  "Yes," she whispered.  Standing up on her
toes, giving his earlobe a soft nip, "Yes," she breaths into his ear.

Clark breathing with effort and feeling very warm, looked down at Lois
seeing she's as flushed as he.  Attempting to control the situation, to hold
to their promise to wait until they were married, he backs off a half a
step.

Lois clutches at his jacket lapels, cries out, "No!"

Clark startled, reaches for her, and then realized she's looking past his
shoulder.  Glancing back over his shoulder he sees Zara and Ching.  They
walk over, each grabbed an arm, as they pulled him away from Lois. His heels
dragged on the floor as he struggled ineffectively against them,  he reached
out to Lois.

Lois had tears streaming down her cheeks.  She stepped forward, her legs
gave way as she collapsed to the floor.

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In a message dated 10/21/99 4:49:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
nightangel@HOME.COM writes:

<< Have to agree with you there, Kathy <g>  The man does have a certain 'je
ne
 sais quoi' in the sex-appeal department, IMHO. Oooh. ;)  THOUGH -- I also
think
 that Zoom's right about the comparative lists.  The one for Kirk was much
more
 fun!  >>

Exactly, Kirk Rules ;) Though I'm sorry, a body with muscles that still has
Picard's pointy bald head attached, isn't sexy <g>   However, you can try
and
tell me how sexy Nicolas Cage looked in Con Air because his body was nicely
built up and so would make a great Superman, but forgive me if I don't agree
with you ;)  To try and salvage this thread to make it somewhat more on
topic
for fanfic, how about a crossover titled "Lois and Kirk The New Adventures
of
the Starship "Yeah, Baby"? <g>

Zoom (grooving on the lyrics, "oh, baby that's what I like" ;)
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From: The Zoomway <Zoomway@AOL.COM>

>Zoom (who felt the list of things that allegedly make Picard "better" than
>Kirk actually made Picard sound wussier ... oooh, mastered the flute in 25
>minutes! <g> And Kathy, don't ever mention that man shirtless again, I had
>a
>nightmare flashback to when my grandpa's robe fell open one Christmas ...
>ewww, I've been traumatized ;)

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!

KathR

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Hi Everyone!

I'm reposting part three of 'Discoveries and Rebirths' because I feel that I
didn't present in a way that everyone would notice it was there. I don't
want anyone to feel like I'm saying 'read it or else you get kryptonite
forced down your throat'. But I want to thank all the people that have given
me feedback, be it positive or negative. I feel that positive and negative
feedback helps us become better writers. Thank you so much!

Love, Misty

"You're just saying that because I'm about to plunge the world into a
thousand years of darkness." -Tempus         'Lois and Clarks'
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Yes, I kind of get that impression.  Thanks.  I wasn't sure anyone was
reading
it.

Nan

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Somewhere in Metropolis.

     Carter smiled. He'd finally completed the first part of his plan. The
janitor would be paid well for his help. And if the janitor got it in his
head to tell anyone of  Carter's plans, the janitor would have to be
eliminated. It was as simple as that. Carter looked into a nearby mirror and
admired Mr.Asabi's handiwork. Sixteen years ago, Carter L. Andrews was known
as Lex Luthor. Years ago, Lex had kidnapped Lois and attempted to brainwash
her, so that could have possession of her. But  the plan failed and Superman
took Lois from him again. Asabi found Lex, close to death after Superman had
taken Lois, and so, Asabi decided to  transfer Lex's soul to the body of the
clone. Lex's soul was transferred to an 'A class' clone. That meant that Lex
would live for 100 years. But all that Carter wanted to do was to carry out
his plan and if it took 100 years,that was fine with him. Seventeen years
been a long time and Lex Luthor was not a patient man. For years, Lex had
waited for the right window to open so that he could carry out a plan to
destroy Superman and Clark Kent again. Lex had even gotten a voice coach, so
that he could get the  voice of a teenager instead of the voice of a
middle-aged man. He'd hired people to pose as his parents so that he wouldn'
t look suspicious with all the money that he'd acquired. He was glad that he
had been resourceful enough to get people that would co-operate with him.
But those people had no other choice. None of them wanted to die and none of
them wanted to lose the steady income that they were receiving.
     Now Carter knew that Kent and Lane had gotten married and had two
children. He couldn't believe that they had children at all, not after he
went through all the trouble of having one of his men at S.T.A.R. Labs taint
Superman's records. But Kent and Lois  had children anyway.  Twins, as a
matter of fact.  The children could be very valuable to Carter, especially
the girl, Lara. If the girl was anything like her mother, it would be a very
easy task. And since Carter knew that Clark was Superman, he could blackmail
him if anyone got in the way of his plans. On Monday, the second part of his
plan would be enacted. Carter looked at the photos again. The children
definitely belonged to Lois and Kent. But now, they would belong to him.
Carter smiled again. It was the smile of Lex Luthor.

Chapter Four

That night  on 348 Hyperion Avenue.

Clark Kent and Lois Lane Kent were in bed, reading. But Clark knew that Lois
had the book, so that she wouldn't have to discuss that day's events.
 "Lois?"

"Yes, honey?"

"What's that book about?"

"It's about the controversy of spraying for fruit flies in residential
areas."

"Lois, we have to talk about this."

"About what?"

"How did you feel when the kids told us that they were developing powers."

Lois put the book down and wondered why Clark even had literature like that
in the house. "I was shocked at first. I mean, they're only sixteen. You
were eighteen when you started getting them weren't you?"

"I was flying in high school and floating. But my powers weren't fully
developed until I was eighteen. But the kids are starting a lot slower than
I did."

"I hate you." Lois said with a wry grin on her face.

"I love you too, honey. I think we'd better see how far Lara and J.C. have
gotten with their powers."

Lois nodded. "Do you think it'll be hard for them like it was for you?
Having to hide everything  that was Kryptonian about you?

"I don't think it will be as hard. They have each other and us."
Lois sat up in the bed. "No, they have each other and you."

"They have you too honey. You're their mother. And you understand having
powers just as well as I do."

"UltraWoman?"

"Exactly."

"I love you Clark, even though it's your fault that our kids will be bench
pressing refrigerators."

"I love you too. And we'll deal with this together. As a family."

Chapter Five

Sixteen years ago.

"What was that all about?" Clark asked his wife. He had just seen an
exchange between Lois and his mother and he hated being left in the dark.

"Girl talk." Lois explained, but somehow, that didn't explain anything. She
told him that she would tell him about it upstairs.

"Why upstairs?"

"Guess." Lois grabbed the end of Clark's tie and began to pull him up the
stairs by his tie. Once they got to the doorway of their bedroom, Lois let
go of his tie. Clark brought his head close to Lois, so that he could kiss
her. But she stopped his head midway.

"I have something to tell you."

Clark got worried and Lois could tell by the expression on his face.

"Clark, don't look so worried. This is good news. Especially for you."

"What is it?"

"Remember when I told you that I didn't know if I wanted to have kids?"

Clark nodded, hoping this was going where he hoped it was going.

"I want children. I want your children. I know it'll be hard work, but we
can be great parents, together."

All the sudden Clark launched himself at her and Lois was pinned against the
wall.
He kissed her in a way that showed Lois just how good the news was.

Lois gasped when Clark began kissing her neck. "Clark?"

Clark stopped for moment. "Yes?" he asked, breathing heavily.

"I take it that you want to start practicing now?"

For the next three hours, Clark told her that his answer had been yes.

Two months later, Dr. Klein told Superman that he was incompatible with a
earthwoman for reproduction. Then a month later, Dr.Klein was proven
wrong,because Lois became pregnant. And then Lois and Clark found out they
were going to be the parents of twins. When the twins arrived, Lois and
Clark named the girl Lara Elaine Kent and the boy Jonathan Clark Kent.
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At 06:10 PM 21/10/99 -0400, Zoom wrote:
>you can try and
>tell me how sexy Nicolas Cage looked in Con Air because his body was nicely
>built up and so would make a great Superman

Ugh, now why would I do that?! <g>

>but forgive me if I don't agree
>with you ;)

Hey, are you allowed to disagree with me about something I didn't even
mention
and haven't said a word about?  Isn't that against the rules of discussion
or
something?  LOL!  Besides, it's a good thing you *would* disagree, because
if I
ever said anything like that, I wouldn't agree with me either! ;)

Poor Nick Cage.  IMHO, the man is a decent actor and he's not bad looking,
but
I've never been a fan of the idea of his being cast as Superman, either.
There
are simply some actors who cannot *be* Superman.  Superman (to me) has such
an
established look and (feel?) about him, characteristically speaking, that no
matter how consummate an actor may be, there's that physicality which also
needs to translate in the final analysis.   For example, I happen to think
that
(say) Anthony Hopkins is a fairly remarkable talent.  He can play almost any
character and deliver an incredible performance.  But regardless of that
ability, he could never be cast as "Superman".  Or even Superman's dad for
that
matter... <eg>  (Now, you may tell me otherwise, but you'd have to forgive
me
if I disagreed with you ;)

...On the other hand, Patrick Stewart as Superman..? Now there's an idea..!
<bg> Just kidding...gotcha ;)

Superman in full costume has *got* to be tall, dark and ruggedly handsome.
<g>
And yeah.. to me, that means he also has to have a full head of his own
hair<g>
no matter how great looking the rest of his..er..body... might otherwise
be..
;)

Say.. come to think of it, Will Shatner and Patrick Stewart are about the
same
age these days... Kirk may have ruled the universe in his day, still,
there's
one thing I have to say about Captain Picard:  He may be 'a seasoned' actor
(the grandfather with the robe analogy didn't work for me<bg>), but at the
self-same age as his counterpart Captain, Picard's body wins out hands down
over the competition. <g> Yeah Baby! Bet you all thought I forgot the tag
line,
didn't you? ;)

I know, I know.. Shatner still has all of his own hair, though.<g>  I
suppose
he gets bonus points for that in compensation. ;)

Take Care All,
Demi
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<html><div>At 06:10 PM 21/10/99 -0400, Zoom wrote:</div>
<div>&gt;you can try and</div>
<div>&gt;tell me how sexy Nicolas Cage looked in Con Air because his body
was nicely</div>
<div>&gt;built up and so would make a great Superman</div>
<br>
<div>Ugh, now why would I do that?! &lt;g&gt;</div>
<br>
<div>&gt;but forgive me if I don't agree</div>
<div>&gt;with you ;)&nbsp; </div>
<br>
<div>Hey, are you allowed to disagree with me about something I didn't
even mention and haven't said a word about?&nbsp; Isn't that against the
rules of discussion or something?&nbsp; LOL!&nbsp; Besides, it's a good
thing you *would* disagree, because if I ever said anything like that, I
wouldn't agree with me either! ;)&nbsp; </div>
<br>
<div>Poor Nick Cage.&nbsp; IMHO, the man is a decent actor and he's not
bad looking, but I've never been a fan of the idea of his being cast as
Superman, either.&nbsp; There are simply some actors who cannot *be*
Superman.&nbsp; Superman (to me) has such an established look and (feel?)
about him, characteristically speaking, that no matter how consummate an
actor may be, there's that physicality which also needs to translate in
the final analysis.&nbsp;&nbsp; For example, I happen to think that (say)
Anthony Hopkins is a fairly remarkable talent.&nbsp; He can play almost
any character and deliver an incredible performance.&nbsp; But regardless
of that ability, he could never be cast as &quot;Superman&quot;.&nbsp; Or
even Superman's dad for that matter... &lt;eg&gt;&nbsp; (Now, you may
tell me otherwise, but you'd have to forgive me if I disagreed with you
;)</div>
<br>
<div>...On the other hand, Patrick Stewart as Superman..? Now there's an
idea..! &lt;bg&gt; Just kidding...gotcha ;)</div>
<br>
<div>Superman in full costume has *got* to be tall, dark and ruggedly
handsome. &lt;g&gt;&nbsp; And yeah.. to me, that means he also has to
have a full head of his own hair&lt;g&gt; no matter how great looking the
rest of his..er..body... might otherwise be.. ;)</div>
<br>
<div>Say.. come to think of it, Will Shatner and Patrick Stewart are
about the same age these days... Kirk may have ruled the universe in his
day, still, there's one thing I have to say about Captain Picard:&nbsp;
He may be 'a seasoned' actor (the grandfather with the robe analogy
didn't work for me&lt;bg&gt;), but at the self-same age as his
counterpart Captain, Picard's body wins out hands down over the
competition. &lt;g&gt; Yeah Baby! Bet you all thought I forgot the tag
line, didn't you? ;)</div>
<br>
<div>I know, I know.. Shatner still has all of his own hair,
though.&lt;g&gt;&nbsp; I suppose he gets bonus points for that in
compensation. ;)</div>
<br>
<div>Take Care All,</div>
Demi
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oh you silly girl demi... though we always see shatner with hair, that =
doesn't mean it's *his*.
I believe his rug is as notorious as burt reynold's, and not nearly as =
convincing.  Those perfectly
sculpted curls.. oy  :)

give me a man who wears his baldness proudly over a fussy mop anyday  :)

cerise

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Part One is up there, as of yesterday, in case people missed it.  I'm
not talking about the INTRODUCTION which was posted the day before that.

Summary:  Everyone always assumed H.G. Wells was responsible for the
magical appearance of the baby in "The Family Hour".  But what if he
wasn't?

Doppelganger Part 2
by Nan Smith

High over Metropolis, four hours later, Superman kept one ear peeled for
any call for help from his wife.  He hadn't wanted to make the patrol at
all; his instincts said to stay home to protect the two most important
people in his world, but Lois, as usual, had brought common sense back
into play.

"You can't protect us every second of every day, Clark.  Go on out; make
your patrol, and then come back.  I promise you I'll keep the doors and
windows locked, and if anything seems at all wrong I'll yell my head
off.  Okay?"

So he had gone, reluctantly, to do his job, but he kept part of his
attention alert for any sound from Lois.  So far there had been
nothing.  The faintly warm night air of late summer brushed his face
softly, bringing with it the smells of the great city far below him.
Even this late at night, Metropolis wasn't asleep; Metropolis never
slept.  There would be people out on the streets every hour of the day
or night.  That was one of the things that he loved about it.  Overhead,
a layer of mist reflected the city lights, and below him those lights
lit up the darkness like a million jewels scattered across a swath of
black velvet.  The scene was peaceful and very deceptive.  Metropolis
was anything but peaceful at any time.

The smell of smoke wafted toward him on the wind.  He turned his head,
searching for the source of that smoke.  In an instant he had spotted
it: the Stafford Building, one of the newer high-rises in the business
section.  A plume of smoke was rising lazily from one of the windows on
the 27th floor.  He changed course and flew toward it.

*  *  *  *  *

Lois lay in bed, trying to read.  The periodical rested in her lap,
folded back to the article she had chosen, and she knew she had read the
entire page, but she had no idea what the writer had been trying to tell
her.  She glanced at her little alarm clock for the third time in five
minutes and closed the magazine with a sigh of resignation.

She had told Clark to go on with his patrol, that he couldn't stand
guard over CJ and her every second, and he had at last grudgingly
agreed, but the fact remained that what had happened that afternoon had
shaken her more than she would admit to Clark, or even completely to
herself.

For the first time she understood how Clark must feel trying to protect
someone weaker than himself from harm, someone who meant everything to
him.  CJ had been in the car, solely dependent upon her for protection,
and it had been a frightening experience to know that she might fail.

She glanced at the clock again.  Clark should be home soon, unless he
ran into something unexpected--which could happen, she reminded
herself.  He could wind up fighting a typhoon in the South Pacific, or
an avalanche in Switzerland on a moment's notice, but she hoped he
wouldn't.  If he did, she knew very well that she wouldn't get much
sleep tonight.  Not that she would have told him so.

The telephone rang and she almost jumped out of her skin.  Come on,
Lois, she told herself.  You're working yourself up into a real state of
nerves!  She picked up the receiver on the second ring.  "Hello?"

A faint clicking sounded on the line, then there was nothing but that
peculiar flat deadness that indicated the mute button was being held
down.

"Hello?" she repeated, a prickle crawling slowly over her scalp.

Nothing.  Then she heard the unmistakable sound of the receiver being
hung up.  She put down the phone as if it had burned her.

A few seconds later she got a grip on her nerves.  People did that all
the time in the city, she told herself.  A prank, or a wrong number;
that was all it was.  It was silly to get upset over such a common
occurrance.  She glanced at the clock again.

*   *   *   *   *

The fire was in the law offices of Williams, Grover, Bender and Ross.
Clark had reason to remember it.  After the unfortunate death of Sheldon
Bender, who had been the attorney for Lex Luthor, the responsibility for
all the legal matters relating to the breakup of LexCorp was shifted to
his brother, Adrian, who was a partner of this firm.  Probate was still
going on, and the legal matters relating to Luthor's huge empire would
undoubtedly continue for many years.  Clark could only be grateful for
the fact that it's founder was dead.

Superman went through the window, which appeared to have been broken
from the inside, and located the source of the smoke.  Adrian Bender's
office was blazing, as if fueled by more than the obvious, and he could
detect the smell of some volatile chemical.  Arson, he thought.  This
fire was no accident.  Quickly, he sucked in his breath and released a
blast of freezing air, extinguishing the flames within seconds.  Judging
by the sirens his super-hearing was picking up, the fire department was
already on its way.  He stood by the window, surveying the damage.

Bender's office safe appeared to have been opened and the contents piled
in the center of the floor.  Part of the pile had been burned, but a
scan with his x-ray vision revealed that the papers beneath the surface
were relatively undamaged.  One folder caught his attention instantly;
the outside, with the logo of LexCorp stamped boldly on its surface, was
somewhat singed, but the interior was unharmed.  Only, it was empty.  On
a hunch, he scanned the other papers, scorched and untouched alike, but
there seemed to be nothing in the pile that matched the label on the
folder.  If the contents had burned, he should still be able to read the
charred remnants with his enhanced vision but there was nothing that
even remotely matched.  The contents of the folder were not in the pile,
burned or intact.  Perhaps he had discovered the reason for the obvious
arson, he considered.  Something might have been in the folder which
someone wanted, and a fire set to cover the theft.  If he had arrived
much later, the evidence would have been gone.  But what was "Project
Doppelganger"?

He turned at the sound of the door being cautiously opened.  A fireman
stuck his head through the opening.  His expression changed.

"Oh, hi, Superman.  Glad to see you here.  What's the scoop?"

After giving a quick summary to the fire crew he flew off to resume his
patrol, but the incident continued to bother him.  Anything about
LexCorp always captured his attention, be it ever so trivial.  LexCorp
had caused him far too much pain and loss for him to easily forget or
dismiss it.

*   *   *   *   *

"Yeah, it was arson, all right," Police Sergeant Ed Braun was saying.
"Superman got there and put it out or there would have been nothing
left.  Somebody may have been trying to cover up the theft of some kind
of documents.  The other partners don't know anything about it."

"What does Bender have to say?" Clark asked.  "Has anybody talked to
him?"

"Only way you can do that is if you've got a pass to the Pearly Gates,"
Braun said.  "He was killed last night about the time Superman was
putting out the fire.  His car blew up."

"*What*?"

"Yeah.  Kablooey.  Car bomb right out on the street.  The guy was burned
so bad you could barely tell he was human.  Nasty."

Clark suppressed his instinctive wince.  "I suppose they've identified
him."

"Well, not exactly.  The Medical Examiner didn't think it was necessary,
but his insurance company insisted.  Seems he had a million dollar
insurance policy and they don't want to pay his ex-wife unless they're
sure it's really him.  They're gonna try using his dental records, I
think."

"I see."  Clark clicked off his recorder.  "Well, let me know what they
find, okay?  I don't like coincidences like that."

"Neither does Henderson," Braun said.  "The case isn't closed, yet."

*   *   *   *   *

"So, that's where they are right now," Clark concluded.  He tilted his
chair back and looked up at his wife leaning against the edge of his
desk.  Jimmy Olsen scurried by with a box of doughnuts in his hands,
headed for their editor's office.

"Sounds like whatever it was might be pretty hot stuff," Lois said,
thoughtfully.  "And Superman said the file said 'Project Doppelganger',
huh?  I wonder if there would be records anywhere else, say in LexCorp's
files?"

"Maybe," Clark said.  "It's got to be something pretty sensitive,
though."

"I'll say," Lois said. "It got at least one man killed."

"And a law office torched.  You didn't see that fire, Lois.  If Superman
hadn't gotten there when he did, the whole floor would have burned."

She shook her head.  "It sounds like we've stumbled into something
pretty big here.  What do you think we should do first?"

"Well, we could have Jimmy do a search.  I suppose it's possible there
might be some backups in LexCorp's computers..."  He broke off as his
phone shrilled.  "Just a minute...Clark Kent."  He listened for a moment
and his eyebrows snapped up.  "*What*!?  Are you sure...All right, we'll
be right there."  He set down the phone and got to his feet.  "That was
Inspector Henderson.  He decided to take a personal interest, after what
happened to you, yesterday.  Someone's broken into our house."
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In a message dated 10/21/99 4:10:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM writes:

<< >Zoom (who felt the list of things that allegedly make Picard "better"
than
 >Kirk actually made Picard sound wussier ... oooh, mastered the flute in 25
 >minutes! <g> And Kathy, don't ever mention that man shirtless again, I had
a
 >nightmare flashback to when my grandpa's robe fell open one Christmas ...
 >ewww, I've been traumatized ;) >>

Okay guys... i may be an idiot, but what is a kirk and what is a picard?

Alicia
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At 04:49 PM 10/20/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Tara,
>
>Have you ever read Debby's Arc?  It's in the archive, and posted on her
site
at
>ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark/Stories/.  I think it's the best
series on
>the Arc I've read, and Clois survives with a twist.
>
>Cindy

Next time you might sorta wanna put "SPOILER AHEAD!" and some space, okay?

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
grumbling...
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In a message dated 10/21/99 4:00:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Zoomway@AOL.COM
writes:

<< You mean like in Barbarians at the Planet where Clark said he loved Lois
and
 knew she was the woman he wanted to spend his life with and that he had to
 stop her from accepting Lex's proposal because even Martha said Lex was a
 monster and Clark had to do whatever it took to keep Lois away from him,
but
 Clark's feelings got hurt because Lois wanted Superman instead of him and
so
 he broke her heart and told her to "get in bed with the devil!"  *That* out
 of character Clark? <g>  Sorry, I just wanted to see how long I could make
a
 run-on sentence ;) >>

Well, Zoom, this was one heck of a run-on sentence.  You make a good point
(albeit verbosely).  I'm not sure that there *is* a consistent
characterization of Clark , other than that although he says Lois is
impulsive, he frequently acts impulsively when it comes to his relationship
with her; and as you point out, gets his feelings hurt and acts downright
stupidly at times.  Just think about his reaction to Lois'  "rejection" at
the beginning of WHALTTA, or the way he acts at the end of Contact, or
WIEARK.

For a smart guy who is good at writing the  touchy-feely stuff, he was awful
at times in his own life.

Ann
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In a message dated 10/21/99 7:30:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
nightangel@HOME.COM writes:

<< I know, I know.. Shatner still has all of his own hair, though.<g>  I
suppose
 he gets bonus points for that in compensation. ;)
  >>

Does he, though, or does he have a great toupee maker?:)

Ann ( who never could make herself watch much of any Star Trek because of
the
discount store pajama costumes. )
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See?  I'm not the only one who's insecure about her stories!  (although why
Nan's insecure is beyond my comprehension!)

Tara

------Original Message------
From: Nancy Smith <deimos1@EARTHLINK.NET>
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Yes, I kind of get that impression.  Thanks.  I wasn't sure anyone was
reading
it.

Nan

James Tull wrote:

>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> Can you tell I like it?  [raising eyebrows up and down several times]

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In a message dated 10/21/99 9:23:36 PM Central Daylight Time, Aerm1@AOL.COM
writes:

<< Well, Zoom, this was one heck of a run-on sentence.  You make a good
point
 (albeit verbosely).  I'm not sure that there *is* a consistent
 characterization of Clark , other than that although he says Lois is
 impulsive, he frequently acts impulsively when it comes to his relationship
 with her; and as you point out, gets his feelings hurt and acts downright
 stupidly at times.  Just think about his reaction to Lois'  "rejection" at
 the beginning of WHALTTA, or the way he acts at the end of Contact, or
WIEARK.

 For a smart guy who is good at writing the  touchy-feely stuff, he was
awful
 at times in his own life. >>

Well, for me, the answer was right there in the pilot, "I guess when you're
in love with somebody, it doesn't matter how smart you are, or how many
rules
you set for yourself, you're still vulnerable."  A very honest sentiment.
For
any of us in love, or who have been in love, we know *exactly* what he
meant.
Anyone who wants to be always logical, always clear-headed, never fall in
love <g>

In a message dated 10/21/99 6:30:30 PM Central Daylight Time,
nightangel@HOME.COM writes:

<< Say.. come to think of it, Will Shatner and Patrick Stewart are about the
same
 age these days... Kirk may have ruled the universe in his day, still,
there's
 one thing I have to say about Captain Picard:  He may be 'a seasoned' actor
 (the grandfather with the robe analogy didn't work for me >>

I think the analogy of one aging better than another holds little water
since
Picard was already an old fart when we first saw him <g>  However, in none
of
my posts did I say anything about Kirk's looks. I like a lot of actors from
Canada, and Shatner just happens to be one of them ;)  It was about his
passion for me (not just with women ;)  I think it's that I'm a barbarian at
heart, remember I'm a fan of boxing <g>  What attracted me to the show,
though, was that it was character driven.  No show hooked me after that
until
Lois and Clark, and what a surprise, a character driven show again ;)  It
was
back to passion. I watched Meet John Doe last night, and Clark is so
passionate in his love and anger in that episode, it gets me every time ;)
That in turn brings me back finally to the endearments segment.

Lois called Clark "honey" in Meet John Doe. What's funny is, it's not in the
script. I guess Teri just thought it sounded good and comforting (about
Clark's nightmare).  I would have thought it might have been awkward for
Teri
since that's the endearment she used with her husband, but apparently not,
especially since she seemed to ad-lib the line.  Clark also called her
sweetheart in that episode, but he was being a bit humorous when he said
"Sweetheart, is there something you're not telling me?" when he sees her
looking over a "last will and testament" kit ;)

Zoom (who would never really be put off by the costumes worn on a show,
after
all, if that were true, I'd never have given Superman a chance ;)
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Nancy:

Although we haven't gotten very far in your story, I must say it's quite
an interesting one thus far.

Taking what you say in your introduction,

>There have been all kinds of explanations for the baby who appeared
>magically at the end of "The Family Hour", most of them involving H.G.
>Wells.  But what if H.G. Wells had nothing to do with it?  What if there
>was another reason for the appearance of the mystery child?  What if it
>was all part of a sinister plot?  Taking that "what if" rather than the
>conventional one, I had a whole new set of possibilities to play with.

and from Part I, I must admit some healthy puzzlement -- you devil,
you.  Considering that the child is supposed to be the spitting image of
Clark and that "the fate of the world" depends on entrusting him to L&C,
it seems we're being led to assume that the child is either baby Kal-El
from Tempus Fugitive or a future child of Lois and Clark's.  (After all,
you only say that H.G. Wells has nothing to do with the child's
appearance, *not* that all our other assumptions, i.e., that the baby is
*theirs," are untrue.) However, what could you mean by sinister plot?
That the baby's appearance is a sinister plot?  Or that the mystery
person who delivered the baby is trying to thwart a sinister plot?  If
the first, then perhaps this baby is not the blessing one might assume
-- perhaps he's a clone.;)  If the second, we're back to square one.

As for the writing style itself, I found very little to suggest.:)  I
only have a couple of slight questions regarding sentence structure:

> At Melon Street Lois turned right, and almost immediately right once
> more into the parking lot of Antonio's.  Dinner was going to be take-out
> Italian tonight, since she was so late, from the authentic little
> Italian family restaurant Clark had found last month.  Fettucine

If I may, in the sentence starting with "dinner," you might consider
moving the phrase, "since she was so late," to the front so there's not
an unnecessary pause and the idea is clearer.

> the order.  The little man was Antonio's brother-in-law, Lois knew.  The
> restaurant was very much a family affair, Clark had told her, and Lois

As above, I wondered if you might flip the parts of these sentences
around as the phrases after the commas sound like they belong in front
... or they're afterthoughts....  Maybe it's just me.

> Lois picked up the bag, with care for the fragrant contents, and
> returned to the Jeep.  Stashing the food in the back, carefully braced
> against spillage,

"The back" was carefully braced against spillage?  Ahhh, I know, I
know.  It's the food.<g>

> she settled CJ into his car seat again, mind returning
> to Giuseppe's remark about him as she slid behind the wheel again and
> started the engine.

Whose mind was returning?

> The light in front of her turned yellow as she went through the
> intersection and then instantly red.  That light was always too short,
> she knew.  The squeal of tires and a chorus of honking behind her caused

Another sentence which strikes me the same way as those above -- "That
light was always too short, she knew." Why not "She knew that light was
always too short?"

*******************

And, I'll say right now, your characterizations are right on the mark
... um ... oh. Yeah baby.

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Anita Dicker wrote:
>
> Hello
> This is just a test.  This is just an excerpt from a story that I am
> working on.
> The total story is a month from completion.  (with luck)
>
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Anita:

As you can see, your story came to me as an attachment instead of
incorporated into an e-mail.  You might want to check that.

Also, I received more than a few messages this evening in html rather
than plain text.  Could everyone make sure their mail preference is on
plain text?  I'd be most grateful.

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> Also, I received more than a few messages this evening in html rather
> than plain text.  Could everyone make sure their mail preference is on
> plain text?  I'd be most grateful.

Yeah, me too ... I can read HTML files a lot easier than I used to be
able to, but they're still annoying.  Thanks :)

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Whoops!  Sorry.  I should have put "spoiler" in the subject line and/or
spoiler space in my e-mail on Doppleganger.  Sincerest apologies.

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