From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG9910A" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:07:46 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: OUATIM: Klein to Lois and Clark (encrypted) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lois and Clark- I have finished DNA testing on the hair sample you left with me. I pulled up the Mamba files to crosscheck my results. There is definitely doppel-buffo frog DNA in the sample. The DNA sequence was quite remarkable when sent through the electron micrograph. It was quite obvious where the frog DNA was spliced with the human DNA, and the adjacent coding regions were... yes, I know, you want the results. What I find most disturbing is the evident unravelling of the DNA accompanied by rapid deterioration of the hair itself. If the person whose hair this is is still living, I'm afraid she (obvious from the typing) hasn't long to live. I assume you know who this is? There is nothing to be done to help her. I am really upset by this. I am sending a sample of the unidentified chemical to my colleague, Dr. Atcliffe, in the UK. Bernie ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:37:40 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: OUATIM: Lara to Dan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dan.. You know what? I was wondering if you would like to spend the whole day with me? There is nothing for me to do for the Planet so I said, what the heck, why not take the day off! We can spend the day together and then go on that surprise date you mentioned. ;) I really need to get out of this apartment because I have been stumbling upon too many hints that people at the Planet want to get rid of me, they want me to fall off the face of this earth! Well dammit, i am not going too! I am also getting sick of being mistaken for Lois or for that psycho clone! I am neither of that! I may not remember much, but hell i sure know that I AM NOT A CLONE! Thank you. I think now would be a good time to create a new idenity for myself.. maybe get a make-over or something. One thing I like about you Dan, is that you don't judge me. You treat me like the human being that I am! I really appreciate it. You can probably stop by at 9am. Before we leave, we can make sure that all of my windows are locked! LOL! Luv, Lara {who is not going anywhere, anytime soon if you know what i mean!} ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:39:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: OUATIM: Lois to Clark (encrypted) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Clark, you promised!! I checked the sent messages just to bring myself up to speed after my little 'bad turn' this morning. It's bad enough that you left me with my= head stuck down the toilet bowl to rush off and investigate the truck driver's union(OK I know you had to meet a source and these guys start wo= rk early) but now that you've let Perry in on our 'secret' he'll have me covering dog shows for the next seven months. It's not fair! Lois ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:40:08 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: OUATIM: Lois to Martha (encrypted) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Martha, Say hello to Grandpa Jonathan for me but I'd rather that we kept this one= between ourselves. I expect that both of you are over the moon about the news and Clark is like a dog with two tails and they're both wagging and I'm........ pregnant. I'm having a baby, a real baby, maybe a super baby and I'm scared. Oh, not of physically having it, though from what I've heard that is not = a picnic. So I guess I'm a little scared of that. But I'm terrified of being a mother. Martha, I'm not good with children.= = And my own mother isn't exactly the perfect role model. Our family was a= battle zone. And I know that Clark is going to be the best dad. How wil= l I keep up? And if the baby starts floating round the house or something what do I do? And then there's my job..... my work has always been important to me. An= d I know that Clark is going to start fussing and trying to wrap me in cott= on wool and Perry is going to back him. Martha, I'm pregnant not an invalid= . I'm on a major babble here, aren't I? It's just that so many thoughts ar= e rushing through my mind. Then I think of a little boy or girl with Clark= 's puppy dog brown eyes and his amazing smile and I just melt. I have a baby growing inside me that is part of Clark and me and it's awesome. So yes I'm happy, truly happy. I just have to get rid of a few= insecurities and I'll be fine. Thanks for listening. I always feel better after talking to you. Your daughter, Lois ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:38:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Phillip Atcliffe Subject: Re: The Innocent Bystander's Survival Guide In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:52:07 -0500 Carolyn Schnall wrote: > Oh Debby:) > This is hilarious!!!! I'm so glad you found and posted this!!! Keep 'em coming!!! < Or you could go to John's website: http://www.erols.com/vansickl/scifi.htm where you will find this and the other lists for Heroes, True Loves, Sidekicks and Evil Henchmen (including crazed cultists, Legion of Doom troopers and special advice for an Evil Overlord's Beautiful Daughter). I'm particularly fond of the last one because I contributed to it . All are hilarious, and should be required reading for their respective subjects -- I can just see Lois nodding as she reads the True Love list, although she might be offended by the items about seeing through the Hero's obvious disguise. And if being a good guy or a mere henchman isn't enough, then try http://www.eviloverlord.com/ for advice for all aspiring Evil Overlords. But, since it was written or compiled _by_ an EO, should you trust it? Phil ------------------------------------------------------------------ "We gotta get out into Space / If it's the last thing we ever do!" -- Return to the Forbidden Planet A sentiment echoed by Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:38:13 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Dr Klein [encrypted) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Bernie - Thanks very much for letting us know the results - it's good of you to be so quick. Yes, we do know the young lady, and as you said, it's very sad. She, unfortunately, has absolutely no idea. Whoever created her seems to have given her a complete set of false memories - that's what threw us oririnally. The first Lois-clone had no memories at all beyond being taught to behave like Lois. We're going to ask Superman to see if he can persuade her to come and see you. On another matter, do you think you could see Lois and me privately some time soon? There's something important - and very confidential - we need to discuss with you. We need to tell you something, and after that we need your help. Always in your debt, Clark. (Lois says hi) ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:45:10 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Lois [encrypted] In-Reply-To: <199910010240_MC2-8724-82BA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Lois, honey, I *didn't* tell Perry - well, not exactly. I just sort of hinted that we had some news for him.... Lois, sweetheart, you know I'm just so excited about us going to be parents. I want to shout it from the rooftops, but I know we can't - we have to talk to Dr Klein first, and tell him about me so that he can run some tests on you and the baby. But I can't help being happy. The truck drivers' union - I have some news for Perry there. A new driver started at the distribution centre just before the bombing - he joined the union and challenged the shop steward. He got himself elected and since then he's been stirring things up. The union full-time official started to get suspicious himself and he went down there to try to calm things down yesterday. The drivers are all working normally now. But I'm going to check out this new guy. I love you, honey. *Both* of you. And I promise I won't tell anyone else - not even Jimmy. But... you've told Cat, haven't you? C. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:23:58 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: PG 13ish (was Cruise comments (spoilers)) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathy B. wrote: <> Where exactly is the line, and how fine is it? I kinda thought (I know, that's what I get for thinking, ), that since some TV shows are rated, that anything you see on a TV14 show would work. The other two methods, are of course less scientific. Method 1: The respiration/ drool method. If a pool of drool appears on the keyboard, or the reader suffers from lack of oxygen, the story may need toning down. Obviously this won't work because the new pic of Dean on Zoom's board left several of us momentarily without oxygen, and yes, it was not an nfic type of picture. Method 2: The what I did/ read at that age method Again, this method is obviously flawed because everyone is different. I read John Jakes at age 13, in the eighth grade, and were those novels to be made into a movie exactly as he wrote them, they would be out of the PG realm. JOY :) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:39:21 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Perry [encrypted] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi Chief, Sorry about the encryption again, but there's some sensitive information in here. First, I found out what's going on with the truck drivers. A new driver was taken on the week before the bombing, and he took over as shop steward. He then began to stir up trouble. I've talked to the local union head office and they're as concerned about it as we are. They're getting the branch to elect a new steward. I then checked out this new driver, Williams. Turns out he used to work at the Metropolis Sailing Club (!) as an odd-job man. It's all tying in to the Underhill-Dow-Jeffers group, but my instinct still tells me there's got to be someone else. Underhill may be an idiot, but he doesn't have what it takes to plan something like this. Actually, I'm not sure how Jeffers ties into it either, so if Cat can get some more information on him that would help. Do you know anything about the owners of NTM? I know the ownership structure, the shareholders and so on, but do you know anything about their chief executive? He doesn't exactly have a high profile. Now, the sad news. Perry, Lois and I have been concerned about Lara Wells for some time. We were always convinced that it was no coincidence that she just happened to look like Lois and lived in Lois's old apartment. Anyway, we've just had a report back from Dr Klein and he tells us that he found doppel-buffo frog DNA in her tissue sample. I don't know if you remember the significance of that, but it means Lara is in fact a clone - someone's managed to clone Lois again! We have no idea who did this, and I can assure you that we're looking into it. But the sad part is that Lara's cell structure is now breaking down at a rapid rate and Bernie Klein thinks she has a few days left at most. We thought you should know, since it does explain a lot about her behaviour. We're actually pretty sure she doesn't know herself. Bernie's agreed to talk to her, to explain it all to her, though I don't know whether it would be fairer to leave her in ignorance. Oh - on that other thing, the thing I mentioned to you the other day... can you forget I said anything? Well, I *didn't* say anything, but you know what I mean, okay? Lois'll kill me if anyone finds out...! Thanks, CK. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:42:11 GMT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yael Kfir Subject: OUATIM: Dan to Lara Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Good morning, Lari. I just wanted to say - thank you for a wonderful evening. The stars were beautiful, but you were dazzling. I'll meet you tonight. Dan. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:22:54 GMT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yael Kfir Subject: OUATIM: Scardino to his Operator Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Mr Kalahan, Sorry it took me a while, butt I've been busy. This interrogation seems way more complicated then what I expected. Jeffers has nothing to do with this whole business. The ones who brought BH-13 to the US is Chemco fireworks, who hid it as a chemical for, well, fireworks. I don't know how they got through the security checks, but I believe this subject should be checked more thoroughly. Remains of BH-13 were found in the bomb that destroyed the Daily Plant building. Sir, this no joke. You know what are the long-term implications of direct exposure to BH-13 can be. God knows how much of this poison was in that bomb and how many people were exposed to it. So far nothing has been discovered yet, so my only hope is that the bombers don't know what kind of weapon they hold. However, it seems that the only two people who were close enough to the bomb were killed when the building collapsed. I'm trying to be as generous as I can and cooperate with some Daily Planet reporters I know, as I hope that they will share with me their information about what was in Jack Fowler's files. I would ask to have my vacation days as soon as this investigation will be over. I believe I deserve almost two weeks. Thank you, Agent Dan Scardino. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:32:06 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Debby's "My Journal" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/29/99 4:28:03 PM !!!First Boot!!!, kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM writes: << Glad to hear you haven't abandoned Dawning! I have a soft spot for that universe and I'm looking forward to visit it again someday. :) Kathy >> Me too. Come on Debby. If I send you my comments on dawning 1-4 now, will that help? Charlotte - Who is rereading Dawning for the fourth or fifth time and loving it again, but who still wants more. It's addictive like Chocolate. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:33:49 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Cruise pt1 pg1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <>. --Laurie I am responding to the listserv on this, so I can get other comments or corrections on my technical method. See below. Thanks for the comment on lines, but that shouldn't be a problem. I wrote Just like Claude, and all of my stories in MS word with only paragraph breaks and about 7 1/2 inch word wraps.. Word does the spelling and grammer checking for me too, although I don't always agree with it. (BG) Then when I get it ready for e-mail, I pull it into a text file, set my margins to 2" inches and save it as text with line breaks. This puts the breaks at the end of each line for me. I am, however, experimenting with how long the lines should be on the e-mail version and would appreciate feedback. That need for 'technical feedback' is also true for any other comments. This is only my second posted story, hence the need for an explanation of PG 13. I am not only concerned with posting to the archive, but to the list as well. I don't want anyone to be offended, but I don't want to waste the archive's time with a story which is not ready for it. I get so much great comments, all of which I want and need. And I certainly don't want everyone on the nfic lists reading a story which is clearly disappointing because there's no nfic in it. (I am on the nfic lists as well and love them too, although I always tell myself I'm reading for the story - sure I am.) So you see the dilemma. I appreciate any feedback and direction for all on the listserv. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:37:45 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Cruise comments (spoilers) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/99 2:55:54 AM !!!First Boot!!!, kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM writes: << Subj: Re: Cruise comments (spoilers) This is cute, Char. I had a few comments, but all in all, keep up the writing ... I'll look forward to seeing what comes next. :) >I describe how Clark (Dean Cain) looks in >nothing but a pair of black briefs and Lois >Terri Hatcher) in a white lace teddy. The scene *Teri* Hatcher. *Teri*. Sorry. I'm absolutely terrible with names, but it's probably a good thing that I'm also very tolerant of mispells of my own name. FISLER always comes out FISHER or a variation thereof and don't even ask what they do with my maiden name: SETTEMBRINI Part 1 > "Only if you promise that you >won't break my rule against getting involved romantically >with anyone I work with," she concluded. I'm a bit confused over Lois's attitude here. This sounds more like a S1 Lois, not a mid-late S2 Lois who has already begun dating Clark. She admited in the Pilot that she'd broken that rule already, but besides that, why would she agree to go out with Clark at all in Lucky Leon (which you imply this story follows) if she doesn't want to get involved with a co-worker? I don't think she was dating him just to lead him on ... usually people go into something like this hoping for a future together. Yes, it season 2 Lois, but I think inside she would still keep that old fear of intimacy, even after dating Clark. Actually without that, this story would never work, so lets say Lois is season 2 but with some season 1 characteristics. Part 2 >"The >cabin is small, a single bed, no couch. Late reservations >and a crowded ship," he reluctantly informed his wealthy >guest. When you say single bed, do you mean a twin bed, or one bed? one bed, double, but not queen or king sized. And I don't have to concern myself with the effect on the two of them sleeping in the same bed before become intimate since I take care of that by the end of part 1. >A midnight walk in the moonlight put the finishing touches >on a near perfect day. Noticing several passengers >watching them, Clark pulled Lois into his arms and kissed >her passionately. Feeling Lois stiffen, he whispered >"verisimilitude," and Lois relaxed, participating fully. Again, I'm a bit confused on when this story is set. In Lucky Leon, she *definitely* didn't stiffen when he kissed her ... she wanted him to. Why does she have an aversion to him now? See above. Lets just say her problem isn't with being kissed, its being kissed in public. Yes, I know the ending of Lucky Leon is on the street but it's night and there isn't anyone around. Besides, who says that kiss even took place in my universe. I only said she apologized and, since Mason Drake doesn't die...." Your points are well-taken though, so I'm going to put a few more lines into part 1 to clarify that relationship as I see it at this point. L & C getting closer but not even to the kissing stage. Perry may be in on the fact that they are dating and Jimmy too but the rest of the Planet is in the dark, so to speak. This is absolutely vital for parts 2 & 3 to work >"Why, Lois? Because of rule number 1?" Rule number 3 ... 1 is "I never get involved with my stories", 2 is "I never let anyone else get there first" and 3 is "I never sleep with anyone I work with." Thanks, knew I should have taken the number out. Or checked the tape. That's it ... like I said, send us the next part. Like Joy said, I can't wait to see how she reacts given he's been sleeping with her for 2 weeks already. Kathy ______ >> I'll try to post parts 2 and/or 3 next week. No more problems with sex. I just hope everyone isn't disappointed. My Lois has already 'forgiven' Clark for running out on her, so she gets angry - but it doesn' t last long. My revelation, in a way, is more about what Clark feels and thinks and most important why he never told her, then about how Lois reacts. You'll see. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:38:22 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Cruise, Part 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/30/99 5:27:14 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jsowell@MAIL.COM writes: << Two weeks? Just how bad *is* Lois going to flip when she finds out that she's been sleeping with Superman all this time? OUCH!! >> You'll find out soon. <> <> Please comment, Kathy! Inquiring minds (mine) need to know. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:40:34 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Cruise comments (spoilers) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <) While I loved your description (especially of Clark ), I probably would recommend you tone it down slightly before you submit it to the Archive. It right on the line, and I'd rather be safe than sorry, so I would have the GE work with you to rephrase. :) Kathy>> That's what I thought too. That's why I asked? But I couldn't resist including the scene. Probably though I didn't have to go into quite so much detail, but looking at Dean in Best Men, (my inpiration for this scene) will do that to you. Also, since Lois and Clark have already had their Lucky Leon date and possibly have kissed, (see my previous comment,) I felt it important that they get 'hot, real fast" otherwise there's no story. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:13:40 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: PG13ish and "the line" (Was: RE: Cruise, Part 1) In-Reply-To: <63a8a0b6.25262f6e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathy wrote: > Its right on the line, and I'd rather be safe than sorry, so I > would have the > GE work with you to > rephrase. :)>> And then Charlotte resonded: > <> > > Please comment, Kathy! Inquiring minds (mine) need to know. I haven't seen a reply yet from Kathy on this, but I think I might be able to answer since I just went through this same "fine line". I just finished editing a fanfic for Wendy (hi Wendy! ;) that was a toned down nfic, and I checked with Kathy several times over the course of editing it so I could make sure I knew where that "line" was. Basically she told me that whatever we would see in the LNC episodes, plus maybe a *little* bit more, was acceptable for the archive's highest PG13 ratings. If you can picture you're fanfic playing out on TV, would you cover your kids' eyes when a certain part came up? I don't know if that helps, but since the "fine line" issue is still fresh in my mind after editing Wendy's story (it's *fabulous*, btw! Be sure to read it when it hits the archive!), I just thought I'd chime in. Erin :) __________________ erink@ida.net Visit my LNC/Kerth Website: www.ida.net/users/davek ***** "It's not the years that count, it's the moments...right now, as they happen." __________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:26:06 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:13:40 -0600 Erin Klingler wrote: > Basically she told me that whatever we would see in the LNC episodes, plus > maybe a *little* bit more, was acceptable for the archive's highest PG13 > ratings. If you can picture you're fanfic playing out on TV, would you > cover your kids' eyes when a certain part came up? > Yes, I *do* often have problems knowing what's PG-13 and what isn't - and thanks a lot for your help, Erin! And (previously) Dana. Over here, the divide is between PG and 15, so what's acceptable for a 15-year-old would obviously be different for a 13-year-old. And not having kids, I haven't the faintest idea at what point I'd cover their eyes! (Though maybe I should consider at what point I wanted to cover my mother's eyes when I watched 'Pretty Woman' with her a few years ago... ). > I don't know if that helps, but since the "fine line" issue is still fresh > in my mind after editing Wendy's story (it's *fabulous*, btw! Be sure to > read it when it hits the archive!), I just thought I'd chime in. Thanks a lot for the plug, Erin! Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:07:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erin Klingler wrote: > Basically she told me that whatever we would see in the LNC episodes, plus maybe a *little* bit more, was acceptable for the archive's highest PG13 ratings. If you can picture you're fanfic playing out on TV, would you > cover your kids' eyes when a certain part came up? > Wendy Richards wrote: < Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > So, is the line somewhere around the scenes you could watch with both your > kids and your parents, and no one gets embarrassed?? Again, though some of > us embarrass easier than others, and some not at all. Had to laugh at this, guys. As a mother of teenagers, I learned that it's *harder* to watch stuff with your teens without someone getting embarrassed than it was when they were little. Dialog that used to go over a younger child's head is all too clear to that teen who blushes to hear such conversations in front of parents. (Picture Clark and discussions about his parents' sex life for an equivalent response :) Sheila ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:26:27 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: PG-13 etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The funny thing about this whole subject is, I'd like to cover my *older* kids' eyes at some of the things they see in rented movies, (although I suspect even my twelve year old twins have also seen a lot more than I'd like) and then I see them getting embarrassed because *I'm* seeing the same scenes. How they figure I came by seven kids, I don't know. I'm not sure where the "line" is, because I've never had the nerve to try writing nfic, but I'd guess that it would be where you wouldn't want a child of yours to see it. Or for those who don't have children, where you wouldn't want your "naive" parent to see it. Although I suspect you may be kidding yourself there. But for those poeple who are offended by the subject, I'd say that this kind of "rule of thumb" is probably fairly accurate. Heaven knows, the last thing I would want to do is offend someone with a story I wrote. I was even a little uneasy with "Just Say...I Love You", and asked Zoomway to check it out first before I left it where it was. Nan ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:59:15 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Cruise Comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF0BFC.00413200" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF0BFC.00413200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know about PG-14 ratings. but I get tired of L&C stories that = ABC and Disney approve of. It is possible to be adult without being = crude or pornographic. The descriptions of L&C may have been lustful, = but they weren't crude or pornographic. By the way, what is the nfic = list? How can I get on it? Do I want to get on it? 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I don't know about PG-14 ratings. but I = get tired=20 of L&C stories that ABC and Disney approve of.  It is possible = to be=20 adult without being crude or pornographic.  The descriptions of = L&C may=20 have been lustful, but they weren't crude or pornographic.  By the = way,=20 what is the nfic list? How can I get on it?  Do I want to get on = it? =20 Jude
------=_NextPart_000_0043_01BF0BFC.00413200-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:19:38 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: Cruise Comments, Nfic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judith, you came to the right place. "Nfic", "Nfanfic", or "naughty fic" as some call it is definitely worth a try. Most sites have passwords. Try Zoom's nfic section on her message boards. It's organized well, so you can get help if you need it, or give feedback if you wish. Anne's site is a good place to start because many talented writers have their works showcased there, including LabRat's newest project, Caped Fear. The NKerths are coming up, so that may interest you as well. Some scenes in some fics are more graphic than others. JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:24:46 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought I sent this but can't find it so I apologize if it is a repeat. Your remarks about what embarrasses some but not others reminded me of seeing "Chasing Amy" with my 32 year old daughter and my husband. It was part of a double bill and we had no warning as to storyline. My husband was very embarrassed but my daughter and I took it is stride. Who can tell? Sheila, I just finished your story, " A Shot in the Dark" and was blown away. It is so beautiful. You have great insight into the feelings of the handicapped. Was this PG-14? Your handling so um, "steamy" scenes is very tasteful. I stand in awe of your craftsmanship. Jude ----- Original Message ----- From: Sheila Harper To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:19 AM Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" > > So, is the line somewhere around the scenes you could watch with both your > > kids and your parents, and no one gets embarrassed?? Again, though some > of > > us embarrass easier than others, and some not at all. > > Had to laugh at this, guys. As a mother of teenagers, I learned that it's > *harder* to watch stuff with your teens without someone getting embarrassed > than it was when they were little. Dialog that used to go over a younger > child's head is all too clear to that teen who blushes to hear such > conversations in front of parents. (Picture Clark and discussions about his > parents' sex life for an equivalent response :) > > Sheila ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:35:00 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: Cruise Comments, Nfic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joy, thanks for the reply. I'm familiar with Zoom's site but not Anne's. Is it easily found? Jude ----- Original Message ----- From: Joy Sowell To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 11:19 AM Subject: Re: Cruise Comments, Nfic > Judith, you came to the right place. "Nfic", "Nfanfic", or "naughty fic" as > some call it is definitely worth a try. Most sites have passwords. Try > Zoom's nfic section on her message boards. It's organized well, so you can > get help if you need it, or give feedback if you wish. Anne's site is a > good place to start because many talented writers have their works showcased > there, including LabRat's newest project, Caped Fear. The NKerths are > coming up, so that may interest you as well. Some scenes in some fics are > more graphic than others. > > JOY:) > > __________________________________________________ > FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:50:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: Cruise Comments Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judith, yes, you *do* want to experience the joy that is nfic. Try: www.zoomway.com/boards/Ultimate.cgi She has an Nfic section for which you can get a password. www.geocities.com/Area51/Meteor/7378/title.html A directory that can give you links you to various sites. Make sure you check out Anne's site. It showcases many talented authors including Shelia "A Shot in the Dark", (which I really liked as well), Kathy "Camping with Clark", (one of my favorites), LabRat "Sugar and Spice" (another favorite). A list similar to this one is availale at lcnfanic@onelist.com Debby has a really great list as well. I hope these help. The NKerths are coming up, so you may want to join in for the IRC ceremony. Dawn and Irene have worked very hard on that, and it should be a lot of fun. Happy reading, JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:52:59 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Irene D." Subject: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Judith, The nfic list is for the over 18 crowd. (Nfic stands for 'naughty' fiction.) I would like to refer you to the Nfic directory at: www.geocities.com/Area51/Meteor/7378/nfic.html which will give you info as to how to subscribe to the list, or how to get a password to the different sites. Irene nKerth co-coordinator --- Judith Williams wrote: > I don't know about PG-14 ratings. but I get tired of > L&C stories that ABC and Disney approve of. It is > possible to be adult without being crude or > pornographic. The descriptions of L&C may have been > lustful, but they weren't crude or pornographic. By > the way, what is the nfic list? How can I get on it? > Do I want to get on it? Jude > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:52:52 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: The Innocent Bystander's Survival Guide In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks for the urls, Phil. Got 'em bookmarked now:) Fanfic ideas all over the place!!! Carolyn >On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:52:07 -0500 Carolyn Schnall > wrote: > >> Oh Debby:) > >> This is hilarious!!!! I'm so glad you found and posted this!!! Keep >'em coming!!! < > >Or you could go to John's website: > >http://www.erols.com/vansickl/scifi.htm > >where you will find this and the other lists for Heroes, True Loves, >Sidekicks and Evil Henchmen (including crazed cultists, Legion of Doom >troopers and special advice for an Evil Overlord's Beautiful Daughter). >I'm particularly fond of the last one because I contributed to it . >All are hilarious, and should be required reading for their respective >subjects -- I can just see Lois nodding as she reads the True Love >list, although she might be offended by the items about seeing through >the Hero's obvious disguise. > >And if being a good guy or a mere henchman isn't enough, then try > >http://www.eviloverlord.com/ > >for advice for all aspiring Evil Overlords. But, since it was written >or compiled _by_ an EO, should you trust it? > >Phil >------------------------------------------------------------------ >"We gotta get out into Space / If it's the last thing we ever do!" > -- Return to the Forbidden Planet >A sentiment echoed by Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:56:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: James Tull Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" Joy Sowell wrote: So, is the line somewhere around the scenes you could watch with both your kids and your parents, and no one gets embarrassed?? >> I think that that would be a good rule of thumb. I kind of like things to be left to the imagination. A comment like the one Lois made at the end of of a fourth season episode, which escapes me :-(, coupled with her grabing Clark's tie is enough to get the creative imagination juices flowing. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:07:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Universal Union Part 3 1/3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Title: Universal Union Part 3 Part: 1/3 Author: Jenni Debbage Rating: PG-13 Feedback: Comments welcome public or privately. Summary: This is the third part of my story of Lois & Kal-El and their life on Krypton. In Part 2 Lois' collapse left Kal wondering if his happiness would be snatched away. = Universal Union Part 3 = Chapter One Resurrection For Kal-El, heir to the throne of the planet Krypton, the hours sinc= e his wedding ceremony had crawled painfully by till the red sun had set i= n a blaze of winter glory and tinted the snow covered landscape with a blood-red hue. = Blood, there had been no blood. The assassin's hand had wielded a less tangible weapon than blade or ray but a weapon no less deadly had be= en turned against his bride. = Kal's ragged breathing and the quiet hum of the life support capsule= were the only sounds in the white sterile room. He was still now as he s= at by the glass bodycase, watching intently for any sign that would portend his beloved's return to him. Earlier the room had been a hive of competent chaos as Physician Tam= ar and his team had fought to save the life of the Lady of El. There had be= en one terrible moment when the heart of this brave young Earth girl had stopped, yet with practised skill the medical team had resuscitated their= precious patient and given her a second chance at life. And, if for the present her hold on life was fairly tenuous, no one was prepared to voice= this thought. An almost inaudible swish accompanied the opening of the doors and almost as silently the clever doctor walked into the room. Without words= Tamar conveyed his concern to the young man by the bed. Being a friend a= nd colleague to Lord Jor-El, the somewhat straightlaced physician had witnessed this boy's journey to manhood and in his opinion the planet Krypton could have found no better successor to its leadership. He only hoped that in some way he could insure that Kal would not lose his chosen= consort. With a great deal of trepidation Tamar checked the monitors in the support capsule, his heart lightening at the steady readings being displayed. "My Lord, I do believe that Lady Lois has turned the corner. = Her vital signs are stabilising and if she continues to improve it shouldn't be too long before she regains consciousness." The dark eyes that lifted to the doctor's face were suddenly lit wit= h a flicker of hope. "Are you sure Tamar?" And the voice that asked the question cracked with strain. "I'm certain." A smile brightened his over-anxious look. "I would not be so cruel as to give you false hope, though I do admit that it was = a close run thing." "Thank you, Tamar," Kal spoke very simply. "I only did my duty, my Lord, and I was happy to do so, however I wa= s not alone." "No indeed." The haunted note was fading from Kal's voice as the fac= t that Lois was not lost to him took deeper root in his mind. "And I will personally talk to all those who helped you save Lois." "Of course you will. However, that was not what I meant. Your brid= e was struck down by a particularly deadly poison. We did everything we could but our best would not have been enough had not Lady Lois fought so= valiantly to live." Smiling tenderly on the still figure beneath him, Kal raised his han= d to touch the warmed surface of the glass. "I knew my Lois would never gi= ve up; Mad Dog Lane." This last was spoken in a whisper that Tamar did not quite hear and would not have understood. Then Kal's mind turned to othe= r more disquieting matters. "You are certain that she was poisoned?" The man who demanded an answer was all commander. "The tests are quite conclusive, sire." Yet the worried boy was not far beneath the surface as once more Kal= gave into his insecurities. "Thank Zor!" A heavy sigh followed. "I was= afraid that we had been wrong and that Krypton's alien atmosphere....... that my desire to bring her here.... had done this to Lois." "Oh no, Lord Kal, quite the contrary. In fact being from Earth save= d Lady Lois' life." "It did?!" "Yes! Let me explain, my Lord." Tamar dragged a stool from the far= corner of the room and sat at the opposite side of the enclosed bed. "A= s I said, an extremely lethal toxin was administered, probably through the injection-gun." At these words Kal's mobile eyebrows rose yet he didn't interrupt the little man. There would be time enough later to deal with that matter. "But this poison is insidious. On a Kryptonian it would ha= ve taken some time to do its deadly work and by the time the victim became i= ll it would have been much too late to administer the antidote. Lady Lois, being an Earth human, had an allergic reaction to the substance and so we= discovered the cause and were able to treat her almost immediately. But even then it was almost fatal." Tamar looked disconsolate as he reviewed= the last few hours. "Who could have wished to harm her?" "That's something I intend to find out." And again the stern mask h= ad dropped over Kal's face. "Tamar, I would be grateful if for the moment y= ou would keep these findings to yourself. Someone had to have access to Loi= s' medicine kit and I don't want to scare the perpetrator into bolting." ***** Indeed following Lois' collapse Zor-El had immediately called a meeting of his security staff and insisted that the very best of criminal= investigators be assigned to discovering who had done this terrible thing= . = Krypton's ruler and his security chief were in no doubt of the identity o= f the instigator of the devious deed, but they both were just as certain th= at finding the proof of his perfidy would be almost impossible. For that reason, they placed a great deal of importance on finding the person who had been hired to do the dirty work. They were not, however, confident that this would be an easy task, and yet to identify the lackey and make the scoundrel talk was their only hope of verifying a connection to the real culprit. The problem was that the house at Ro-Ellion had been a hive of industry during that morning, bustling with the caterer's staff from the dome and the wedding guests and their entourages who arrived in ever increasing numbers. There had been a light buffet served in the large conservatory for those who had long distances to travel and therefore had= left their homes very early in the morning. The family and the servants had been engaged in welcoming and entertaining the visitors, leaving free= access to the mansion to whomever had the desire, both innocent or deviou= s, to wander at will. Neither Zor-El nor Commander Medi, Head of Security, seriously considered that the Lords and Ladies who were invited to breakfast with t= he family would be involved in a plot to murder but perhaps one of their retainers had been lured into infamy with the promise of reward. And, of= course, there were the workers who arrived with the dome; anyone of them= could have sneaked inside. The point was that the El family had not sought to avail themselves = of a video-security system. This was their home and they refused to allow themselves and their people to be spied upon. Goodwill and trust dwelt i= n Ro-Ellion and while that under normal circumstances might be a commendabl= e and pleasant lifestyle, it did not assist the investigators in their task= . = When late at night a tired and dispirited Zor-El finally found time = to visit the newest member of his family the security forces were still no closer to discovering who was responsible for the near death of the young= woman for whom he had formed such a fondness. The lighting in the room w= as muted but his weary eyes could still discern the slumped figure of his nephew sitting patiently by the side of the glass covered bed. "How is Lois doing, dear nephew?" The silence of the room prompted Zor to whisper the question. Kal-El stirred from his cramped position and stretching his stiff shoulders he turned red- rimmed eyes towards the intruder. "Uncle! I didn't expect to see you here. I thought you and Aunt Rochelle would hav= e returned to the castle." "We couldn't leave while Lois was in such a serious condition." Zor= approached the bed and gazed down on the pale face of the sleeping girl. = "Your mother has kindly made up the guest chamber for us." "You look tired, sir. Perhaps you should be in bed." "I couldn't retire without seeing for myself that Tamar's optimistic= prognosis is indeed correct. He tells me that he has every hope of Lois'= recovery." A tired smile on the face of his nephew told Zor all he needed to know. Then the smile was overtaken by a yawn. "You know, Kal, perhaps you should take your own advice and seek you= r bed." "No way! I couldn't leave Lois alone. I have to be here when she wakes." "I understand, Kal and in your position I too would want to stay. = Would you enjoy some company?" The question was rhetorical and without waiting for a reply the old man slid into the seat that Tamar had vacated= earlier. "Do you remember how we watched her play? She was always such = a spirited child, and it's that spirit that will bring her back to you." Kal simply nodded his head and for a time the two men sat in quiet communion as they watched Lois sleep. Finally, Kal's curiosity surfaced.= "Who have you placed in charge of the investigation?" "Commander Medi." Zor had been awaiting his nephew's enquiry. "He'= s doing everything he can to bring the criminal to justice." "But without success." Kal had been alerted by his uncle's downcast= demeanour. "Not so far. Ro-Ellion was extremely busy today and no one saw anything unusual. Whoever tampered with the medical chest managed to do = so without any witnesses." "Then the poison was definitely administered by the gun?" "Yes, the scientists have established that fact. They have not, unfortunately, gleaned any other information from the box or the injection-gun. The perpetrator was clearly shielded by a personal force field, and you know they are like a second skin; while the wearer can function without impediment no imprints or body traces leak through the shield. Both the room and the medi chest were clean. The rest of the house was scanned but, with the amount of traffic through the rooms today= , it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. Besides, I doubt the assassin shed his force-field until he was well away." "Those personal shields are very expensive, aren't they?" Kal meditated. "Oh, whoever did this, Kal, has very deep pockets." "Nor was here today; at the wedding." That statement was coloured with loathing. "Yes! But he and his company made a point of arriving late, and the= y didn't enter the house but went directly to the dome. And I very much doubt if Nor would be foolish enough to show his hand so soon." Kal rose= sharply to protest and Zor lifted a calming hand. "And, before you berat= e me, I agree that Rad-Nor is behind this. If what we suspect is true and = he means to make a play for the leadership, then it would be in his interest= s to make sure that the House of El, after you, has no apparent heir. It's= common knowledge that the Els are a particularly monogamous breed. Get r= id of Lois and it will take you a long time to find another wife and fulfil your duty. But before you run off and confront Nor with violence, please= remember that we have no proof, and without that anything you do will be outside the law." For a number of tense moments, as the furious young man prowled from= the bed to the window and back, it seemed that Kal would ignore his uncle= 's advice. Yet, thankfully, his frustrated pacing halted once more by the b= ed and, though his hands still remained balled into fists, his voice was controlled. "And Nor wins!" = "That is so." The older man's tone was coloured with relief. "I fe= lt sure you would understand. But, believe me, we have no intention of givi= ng up on this. The search for the attempted killer will continue. Anyone w= ho was in or near the vicinity of Ro-Ellion today is being questioned." "But you don't hold out much hope of a result." This was a statemen= t rather than a question. "Unfortunately, no!" At this point Zor's face flushed slowly as he asked hesitantly. "I've already asked your parents this question but I feel that I must also ask it of you. "Do you know of anyone amongst the= household staff who might be enticed into committing this crime.... anyo= ne who might bear a grudge for some imagined reprimand?" Kal's eyes flashed to his uncle's face and he almost retorted in anger. Then again, he did appreciate Zor's position on this, and the mulish set of his lips relaxed slightly as he took time to consider his response. "I don't think so. Uncle, these people have belonged to the House of El for most of their lives, as have their families before them. = And this is a contented household. Everyone is encouraged to air their grievances should they have any, which I have to say is very rare. I tru= st them. Besides, they've taken Lois to their hearts. They think she was very brave to travel so far from her home to be with me and......" There= was a moment's pause as Kal decided whether to continue with his revelation, but this was his Uncle Zor, the one person who had encouraged= him in his pursuit of Lois; surely he would understand. "And she treats them..... differently. She doesn't gush or patronize and I imagine she'd= read them the riot act if they displeased her, but she accepts them as...= .. equals. And, once they got over the initial shock, they like her for it.= = I'm certain they're worried and upset about this whole thing too." = = = A tired and careworn young man waved his hand above Lois' capsule at= his last words, then sank back into his chair and let his head drop into his hands. Intently watching his nephew with quiet solicitude, neither Z= or nor Kal was aware of the faintly fluttering eyelids of the still figure encased in the glass support system. In the silence of the room a low tapping could be heard which drew Zor's attention to the door. Whoever stood outside did not assume the right of entry so with a quick stare Zor ordered the doors to part. = Holding themselves almost to attention on the threshold, Ching and Poli waited for permission to enter. A number of seconds passed before Kal bestirred himself to discover who waited in the doorway. "What?!" Kal almost snapped. "What is it?! Why are you here? Hav= e you found out who did this?" Both men looked abashed. It was unlike Kal to give way to irritatio= n, especially with his close friends. But, sympathising with Kal's emotion= s, Ching found the nerve to answer. "No, my lord, I'm sorry to report that there has been no progress in= finding the villain. Poli and I were concerned about our lady and we wished to convey our feelings....... we too care for Lady Lois....." = The lieutenant's voice died away at the implacable visage confronti= ng him and he began to look very uncomfortable. Thankfully, Kal's sense of justice prevailed as the memory of youthful adventures and adolescent problems shared with this slightly more mature bodyguard and mentor reviv= ed in his mind. Plus a bond of mutual admiration and friendship had develop= ed between Lois and these two young men during the long voyage between Earth= and Krypton. A bond Kal not only approved but chose to encourage, knowi= ng that they would guard her life more zealously in the future. "Yes, of course, you're worried. Forgive me. I should not have spoken so abruptly. I'm just so tired." Kal stroked a shaky hand throug= h his thick dark hair, an obvious sign to Ching that his charge was very close to the edge. "Don't apologise, Kal." Ching took the chance and dropped the title= , aware that for the moment the younger man was more in need of the support= of a friend than a bodyguard. He speedily closed the distance to Kal's side as the exhausted bridegroom buckled at the knees, holding Kal uprigh= t until he could deposit his charge into the chair that he peremptorily ordered Zor-El to bring forward. So intent was the faithful Ching on caring for his friend that he was oblivious to the fact that he was committing the sin of lese-majeste, however, in the circumstances his majesty was not about to take offence. = Under the ministrations of his uncle and his bodyguard, Kal sought t= o steady himself. He concluded that unless he could regain some semblance = of control Zor would order Ching and Poli to escort him to his chamber and that was a place that he did not want to return to this night alone. = Besides, he had to stay with Lois; she might need him. While his associate and his ruler dealt with the fainting Kal-El, Poli's attention was attracted to a slight movement from the direction of= the capsule, an action so minute that Poli almost doubted its existence. = Seconds later, a small trembling hand reached up towards the dimmed light= only to come in contact with the hard clear surface of the capsule which almost instantaneously disappeared at her first tentative touch, leaving her wondering detachedly if it were only a figment of her cobweb fogged mind. = "Kal, my lord! Look!" Poli directed his lord's gaze towards Lois w= ho was now lying on a completely normal bed, covered almost to her chin by a= smooth white counterpane which rivalled the patient's almost translucent skin for paleness. = Lois was barely awake, but her wavering hand was instantly caught in= a strong loving clasp as Kal arrived by her side. "Sweetheart?! Lois?!" = The accompanying voice was soft and warm but also insistent, rallying her= to open her heavy eyelids and answer the call. "Can you hear me, Lois?" Tremulously, yet inevitably, Lois forced her eyes to focus on the fa= ce above her, leaning over her with such loving concern. Kal-El! The handsome Kryptonian who had come to Earth for her; who had taught her wha= t it meant to love; who had married her. Kal-El who was her husband. Slow= ly the events of the day came back to her, while Kal watched patiently as shadows of understanding flitted across her face ending with horror at th= e realization of her collapse. = "Lois, listen to me." He sought to soothe her with his words. = "You're safe now. You were very ill but Physician Tamar and his medics took care of you and you're going to be fine. But you must rest and let the healing process begin." "Wha......" Lois' voice was no more than a thready whisper and she cleared her throat weakly to try again. Ever the investigator, Lois was not satisfied to return to welcoming sleep while she was unaware of the cause of her illness. "What happened to me?" Straining to hear the words, Kal couldn't forbear to smile a little = at the typical Lane question, though indeed she was no longer Lois Lane. Sh= e was now Lady Lois-El but Kal was well aware that it would take more than = a change of name to bring about a change of nature. In fact, he dearly hop= ed that Lois would never change. Grow perhaps; mature perhaps, but he love= d her for all that she was. "Kal?! Tell me!!" That was whispered with a hint of annoyance. Though she was sick Lois saw no reason to be kept in the dark. For a few seconds Kal considered prevarication, at least until Lois= was fit enough to hear the truth. Yet somehow he insightfully understood= that Lois would not appreciate this course of action. Their marriage was= an equal partnership in which they would face the good and the bad together. He had given Lois this pledge back on Earth and he would not break it at the first sign of trouble. "You were poisoned. Someone tampered with your injection-gun. I w= as so afraid that I would lose you, but you are getting better." A frown clouded Kal's brow as he relived the long hours since the wedding feast. = However, he pushed his depressing thoughts aside in order to reassure his= wife and smiled gently at his next words. "Soon you'll be feeling much better and we have a honeymoon to continue." Lois shakily returned his smile at this suggestion but would not b= e diverted. "Who, Kal?" She could only talk in short bursts but she was= anxious to know everything. "Who did this?" "We haven't been able to discover that yet." "But we're continuing to investigate." A new voice, but one she was= coming to recognise and welcome, joined in the conversation as a figure emerged from the gloom of the medi- chamber and stood by Kal's side. "I think we require the assistance of a very dedicated journalistic student who I believe never lets go of a case until she exposes the criminals." A faint grin hovered over the pale lips as Lois fought her exhaustio= n to answer. "Lord Zor? Why are you here?" "I came to see how you were, my dear, and if my nephew was taking ca= re of you. I'm very glad to find you awake, but I can see how tired you are= . = Lois, you must sleep if you are to regain your strength. The search for your attacker will continue but, meanwhile, as your ruler and as a proxy for your father I'm ordering you to rest. Kal will stay with you until y= ou sleep but then I'm instructing Ching to escort him to his sleepchamber. = You both have been through a terrible experience today and things will lo= ok a whole lot better after a good night's rest." And, having delivered his= edict, Zor-El lifted Lois' one free hand and gently kissed her fingertips= . = "Sleep well, my dear." = With an affectionate glance to Lois and Kal the old man took himself= off, after a few quiet commands to Ching and Poli who promised faithfully= to do his bidding. Thus it was that in a very short space of time a much= heartened Kal-El was accompanied to an empty room in the medical wing of Ro-Ellion, both men discerning that Kal would much prefer this resting place tonight than the chamber where he had assumed he and Lois would be consummating their marriage. Yet even in sleep Lois was warmed by the mind of Kal-El telepathical= ly holding her safe from harm. If they could not share this night in body their souls would be together tonight and indeed for every night as long = as they both should live. = *****= Continued in 2/3 = ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:07:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Universal Union Part 3 2/3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Title: Universal Union Part 3 Part: 2/3 Author: Jenni Debbage Rating: PG-13 Feedback: Comments welcome public or privately Summary: This is the next part of my story in Lois & Kal-El's life on= Krypton. Chapter Two Schie-Hellion The visit to the mystic mountain was postponed only for a few days a= s the new Lady of El recovered from her almost deadly attack by an unknown hand. Lois, although deeply aggrieved that the perpetrator was not yet i= n custody and, it seemed, was unlikely to be caught, allowed herself to be persuaded to leave the investigation to the professionals and join Kal on= their honeymoon. A transporter was prepared to carry a recuperating invalid and their= bags were packed and deposited in a goods carrier while Ching and Poli, along with a bemused Etta whose presence had been specifically requested = by Lois, and a contingent of security personnel embarked in two larger transporters. The little convoy left Elvar in the early morning hours an= d, though their journey was of some distance, the hovercraft covered the ground speedily and the new member of the Kryptonian population delighted= her husband with the obvious interest she found in viewing the passing scenery. The small townships of the farming communities seemed, surprisingly, so very like the mid-western states of her homeland that sh= e felt comforted by the similarities. Yet she could not resist remarking t= o the heir, on all she surveyed, that the countryside through which they passed was far more old-fashioned than she had imagined. To which commen= t Kal pointed out that their civilisation had learned through time and many= past mistakes, some of them lethal, that sometimes nature was best left t= o her own devices. The hardest lesson of all had been to acquire the wisdo= m to know what to tamper with and what to leave well alone. Hopefully, it now seemed as if the Kryptonian people had finally reached the correct balance. Shortly before midday the cavalcade reached a mountainous region whe= re they left behind the cultivated pastures and travelled through a dramatically rough terrain where the signs of habitation were few. The speed of the vehicles slowed slightly as they travelled along the shoulde= rs of the high mountains and threaded their way through narrow gorges betwee= n steeply towering peaks. But just as Lois became dizzy from staring at th= e stark walls that rose sheerly on either side, the pass through which they= sped opened out as their convoy entered a high valley which they continue= d to traverse for a short time, wending their way through snowy forest path= s until before them, still someway in the distance, they saw their goal. Her first sight of the castle almost took away her breath. An ancie= nt towering structure, Schie-Hellion stood on the shores of a small lake bounded by lofty snow clad mountains. The walls were built of a silvery granite-like stone which blended perfectly with the rocky majesty of the landscape and, reflected in the light of the red sun, the building appear= ed like a rose pink jewel set in a white velvet case. Once again Lois was rendered speechless by the beauty and grandeur o= f this planet and she wondered, with a tinge of the old Lois Lane cynicism,= whether she was being shielded from the less picturesque areas. As far a= s she could tell this world seemed free of pollution and blight but she determined to ask Kal if this was a true picture or were there hidden sca= rs elsewhere on Krypton's landscape. For the moment, however, she was conte= nt to enjoy the time before her spent in this wondrous setting with the man she loved. The marriage had remained a purely platonic one, Kal being too afra= id to take the final step in their union until he was completely certain tha= t Lois had recovered from her ordeal. Now, as Lois entered their first hom= e together, she decided that this was a situation that would end this very night. No longer was she content to lie in her husband's arms and remain= passive, a condition which she was aware that Kal was finding ever more difficult to maintain. And from this night she would ensure that he no longer had any need to control his burgeoning desires; desires that Lois= was feeling just as keenly. During the afternoon, Kal had spent the time showing Lois over the ancient home of the family El; the origin from where the family had risen= to the important role that it now held on Krypton today. In those days o= f long ago a direct ancestor of the present ruler and his heir had assumed the care of his people. Through many long centuries the Lords of El had= fought for their charges' protection and survival in a hostile world, eve= r increasing the numbers of souls for whom they accepted responsibility unt= il finally the mantle of First Lord of all Krypton fell to this great and ju= st dynasty. And this edifice of ancient stone held within its form many memories both tangible and metaphysical of ages past. As Lois walked wit= h Kal through the rooms and corridors, she was awed by the sense of history= that surrounded her. Now Lois and Kal were about to embark on a new passage of Kryptonian history and only future chroniclers would measure their success. Supper was served early that evening, Kal fussily being afraid that the long tiring day would have been detrimental to his wife's health. = Truthfully, Lois felt very well but due to her agenda for the evening she= happily followed Kal's instructions and took herself off to bed with the promise that he would join her as soon as he conferred with the small security task force. The Lord of El was not prepared to allow another covert attack on his family and was taking steps to ensure their safety. Lois, with Etta in tow, retired to the uppermost regions of the cast= le where the master bedchamber was situated. The room was vast and covered most of the upper floor with two smaller rooms which housed respectively Etta and the two bodyguards. A roof terrace which overlooked the icy waters of the lake was accessed from the chamber by large french windows,= now covered over with thick velvet curtains. In a large fireplace a log fire blazed with a welcoming warmth. It was strange that on this technological world that every house she had yet been in preferred to rel= y on this natural heat and not more modern central heating systems. Still,= as she gazed at the flickering flames she had to admit that real fires be= at central heating for atmosphere by a long way. Smiling in anticipation she pictured herself and Kal lying before th= e huge blaze learning to know intimately each other's bodies and discoveri= ng how to give and take pleasure from the other. Quickly she called Etta to= her, Kal would be here soon and she had things to do. The two young wome= n crossed into the bathroom and Lois began her preparations to make sure th= at this would be a wondrous night Kal would never forget. A short time later the young bridegroom entered the dimly lit room fully expecting to find Lois asleep in bed. He closed the door quietly a= nd crept forward into the chamber, crossing to the fireplace and sinking int= o an armchair. An almost silent groan escaped his lips and he dropped his head into his hands. While he had sat in the medi-centre by Lois' side, watching her frail body fight for life, he had vowed that if she lived he= would restrain the passion that had been building in his body for her sin= ce the day he had first spoken with her, and allow her to set the pace of their lovemaking. But he had never thought that it would be so difficult= . = Holding her while she slept and recovered her strength was proving to be = a sweet torture. "Kal!?" Lois' soft voice reached him through the flickering shadows= of the firelit room. "Is something wrong?" The words were full of trepidation. This was not a night when she wanted the outside world to intrude on their time together. Kal's head snapped up and he threw a swift glance toward the bed onl= y to have his eyes verify what his ears had already informed him. Lois was= not asleep in bed. His eyes followed the sound of her voice and came to rest on her as she stood by the window. The curtains had been pulled bac= k a little and the moon shown in through the space, lightening on a small figure clad in a nightrobe of spun silk. Bathed in the shaft of silvery= light the sheer gown highlighted the silhouette of Lois' desirable curves= . = It was more than flesh and blood could resist and Kal stood and walked towards his bride as if in a trance. Reaching her side, he opened his ar= ms to her and she walked within his embrace. "Lois, are you sure you are ready for this?" he questioned in a voi= ce thick with passion. And in the words she had given him back on Earth she reassured him o= f her love. "With all my heart." ****= * = Over the next few days the household saw very little of their Lord a= nd Lady, the couple choosing to remain in their bedroom as they explored thi= s new and exciting aspect of their lives together. Each was amazed by the overwhelming desire that had overtaken them and they delighted in their o= wn company. To see; to touch; to taste the other was so much more than they= had ever dreamed. Etta and Ching were the only staff members who had any contact with Lois and Kal, taking care of their needs and serving them the light repas= ts that were all the couple requested in their chamber. Yet no one was surprised or upset by these events. Indeed, the servants were amused and= pleased by the happy laughter that echoed from the top floor of the castl= e. And finally, when the two lovers emerged from their chosen solitude, the= glowing smiles that lit both faces; the endearing glances that passed between them and the way they remained always within each other's embrace= , warmed the hearts of the castle retainers. Slowly the couple allowed their attention to return to the outside world and the rest of the days spent at Schie-Ellion were filled with jaunts of exploration and strolls along the shores of the frozen lake. = Evenings were spent dining with Ching and Poli and, much to the early consternation of the girl, Etta was persuaded by Lois to join them at the= table. This suggestion did not exactly sit well with Kal when his wife first voiced her intention but he allowed himself to be won over, only wi= th the proviso that Etta should agree to the plan and should not feel hersel= f coerced. Kal was not a snob but he was a product of a strictly class-bound society and he also appreciated that the serving-girl herself would feel awkward dining with those she had been raised to believe her betters. Ye= t the future ruler's ideal was to change the rigid traditions of Krypton, though if he were honest, his vision involved only the emancipation of th= e sexes in his own noble class and perhaps in the important families of the= military and business worlds. = He now perceived that his Earth born wife had more far reaching notions and though the results of these radical ideas scared him he was n= ot about to dismiss them out of hand. Besides, the implementation of these additional concepts lay so very far in the future that they were not wort= h worrying about for the moment. Nor were they worth upsetting Lois by refusing her request, he was not prepared to spoil his honeymoon by falli= ng out with his wife. Also, this was the backwater of Schie-Ellion where protocol was decidedly more relaxed, where the small band of household servants had known him since birth and tended to treat him with the familiarity of long serving retainers. And lastly, although Lois was increasingly regarding Etta as a friend, she was heedful that such a situation would be completely out of place back in Elvar. = So it was that the young girl became a member of the happy band who spent their nights entertaining themselves with tales of their experience= s in their respective fields and as Etta grew more comfortable in their company she even found the courage to recount a few funny stories of life= below stairs which had her listeners laughing fit to split their sides. = Card games too became a form of entertainment in the early dark of t= he winter nights much to Lois' astonishment. She had thought that the high-minded Kryptonians would think themselves above such vices, an assumption which she discovered was not completely far off the mark. = Playing for fun was tolerated and indeed some card schools were considere= d an intellectual duel of minds, but gambling was frowned upon. = Nevertheless, there were a few private gambling clubs scattered throughou= t the main cities, set up by sharp off world entrepreneurs of the Space Confederation, of which Krypton was a prime member, who saw an niche in t= he market on this ascetic planet. Because of trade agreements between the planetary federation the management of these casinos' were given licence = to run their clubs within strict guidelines though most of the older generation of Kryptonians would never contemplate crossing their doorstep= s. = Lois, being a founder member of the college poker school, took to th= e new game (which Lois placed somewhere between Canasta and Bridge ) with a= n aptitude that soon had her opponents crying for mercy but poor Etta found= the going tough and, as four players were really all that was required, when the cards were produced of an evening she usually excused herself fr= om the proceedings and took herself to bed. This state of affairs distresse= d Lois and her reaction was to veto the card playing but Kal reasoned that Etta would be horrified to think that she was responsible for putting an end to a pastime which was so clearly enjoyed by the others. Reluctantly= , Lois admitted that there was probably an element of truth in his argument= and the games continued. Amazingly television did not exist on Krypton, although as Lois was well aware most Kryptonian households could access transmissions from oth= er worlds. There were however broadcasts of a different kind and Lois was slightly puzzled when one evening after dinner the group sat down in the library dimming the lights and gazing expectantly at a cleared space in t= he centre of the room. Eerily, strains of soft music seeped into the darken= ed library and materializing before her astounded eyes an orchestra shimmere= d into being. Laughing at her wide-eyed astonishment Kal explained that it= was merely a hologram of a concert that was taking place in Veren, anothe= r great city of this world and seat of the Ver family. = Lois was beginning to realize that her new planet was divided into provinces owned and run by the noble families and these states were in tu= rn governed by the First Lord (who would one day be her husband ) and his council. This was not a new revelation as Kal had explained much of his world's political and social configuration on the journey from Earth. = Nevertheless, to actually witness the theory in practise was fairly overwhelming yet Lois was also aware that it was a practise that she must= quickly come to terms with if she were to be happy here on Krypton and indeed help Kal in his secret mission. = Meanwhile, there was much on Krypton to appreciate and Lois settled down contentedly to enjoy the lovely music, her hands entwined with her lover's strong fingers and her head resting comfortably on his shoulder. = = Imagine her surprise when midway through the concert it was announced tha= t the orchestra was to play a piece which would be new to viewers on Krypto= n; a symphony from the planet Earth, Beethoven's Pastoral, in tribute to and= appreciation of the recovery of Lady Lois of El. And as the familiar mus= ic filled the room so too did the Lady of El's eyes fill with tears, moved b= y the kind and thoughtful gesture. = = The days of contentment sped by spent mainly in the confines of Schie-Ellion's extensive grounds until the day when Kal judged his wife w= as sufficiently healthy to undertake a longer journey. Lois was intrigued a= s it seemed their destination was to remain a mystery. The only informatio= n her infuriatingly smirking partner would impart was that they were to vis= it a neighbour who was one of his most favourite people and, as an after thought, that she would really like this mysterious person. Another mind blowing shock was to greet Lois on this morn. As she stepped outside to board their vehicle she was surprised to see not the customary transporter but a vehicle from a time gone by; a partially hood= ed sleigh. But this was not the object of her staring eyes, standing proudl= y between the shafts, prancing a little in their eagerness to be off, were = a beautiful pair of matched white horses. And yet these animals were not quite horses; from the middle of their foreheads projected a long pointed= horn.... these were...... "Unicorns!!" The word escaped Lois' lips almost reverently. "Yes, but why are you so surprised?" Kal questioned. "I did tell y= ou that many of our species were similar to the ones of Earth." "But Unicorns exist only in fairytales." She was still whispering a= s if she didn't want to upset these lovely beasts by doubting their existence. "They're mythical creatures of legends." "Well, as I said once before, some of your legends seem to be realit= y in other worlds. Remember the Taureans. I suspect Earth as well as Krypton was visited aeons ago by space travellers who have left their see= d on the planets they touched and then disappeared in time." "Disappeared where?" Lois demanded, fascinated by his reasoning but= as always searching for the facts. "I don't know." Kal sounded a little peeved that she should questio= n his theory. "It's a big galaxy and there are lots of others out there. = Do you have another explanation that would account for the similarities between so many different planets?" Lois shrugged and smiled wickedly. "Up until you found me I didn't know other life forms existed! But I'm so glad there are *certain* similarities between Earthlings and Kryptonians." And brushing past him she wiggled her little derriere suggestively as she stepped up into the sleigh, a sexy giggle escaping into the crisp morning air. Kal shook his head in confused amusement. Krypton was unprepared fo= r the delightful little devil that was about to be unleashed upon them. Wi= th an indulgent grin he took his seat beside her in the sleigh, covering the= m with the thick counterpanes of fur that would serve to keep them warm on their journey. Two burly serving men walked forward with a strangely glowing red rock and placed it in a hidden compartment beneath the seat o= f the sled and instantly Lois felt a warmth spread upwards through her body= . "What was that?" "That was kryptonite, red kryptonite," Kal helpfully explained. = "There are a number of different colours and all have slightly different qualities. This red variety when charged retains and conducts heat and i= s excellent as a source of central heating during our hard winters." "But you use natural fires in your houses!" "Lois, these old homes are large and pretty draughty. Real fires a= re very pleasing to look at but they would never be sufficient to heat the whole building." Relaxing into the sensation of gentle heat that was radiating from t= he rock, Lois admitted with a sigh of pleasure, "Hmm, this certainly seems effective." She snuggled closer to Kal's side, her breath teasing the sensitive skin beneath his ear. "What do the other ones do?" Distracted by the body that was burrowing into his side he did not quite take her meaning. "Mmm, what other ones?" "Kryptonite! You said there were other varieties. Really, Kal," sh= e teased. "You have to pay more attention." And she playfully batted his chest. "Minx," he retaliated, pulling her even closer. "How am I supposed = to concentrate with you breathing in my ear?" So close was she that their lips were almost touching and he swiftly took her mouth in a deeply sensu= al kiss. Once he was satisfied that Lois had lost all measure of concentration he broke the contact. "Green!" Lois' eyes opened in confusion. "Green! What's green?" = "Kryptonite! You asked about the other varieties. Really, Lois, yo= u should heed your husband." = The two laughed happily together as Ching and Poli took their seats= on the driver's bench before them and picking up the reins Poli gave the command to be off. At his cry the unicorns sprang forward taking the strain of the sledge with ease and soon the powerful animals settled into= a steady gallop as behind them the sleigh glided smoothly over the frozen ground. = "Actually, green kryptonite is the source of Krypton's wealth and influence." Kal's laughter subsided as he returned to more serious matters. "The crystal is the only means of powering the hyper-light driv= es which makes inter-planetary travel possible. There are other fuels which= are used on shorter journeys but no others are capable of producing speed= s to traverse the galaxies. All of the planets in the Confederation use green kryptonite in their ships plus a number of worlds outside the alliance." "And Krypton is the only source?" As Kal nodded in affirmation Lois= whistled keenly. "Talk about cornering the market. This green stuff mus= t be worth its weight in gold." "More than gold, Lois. Gold is actually mined on many of the worlds= , platinum and diamonds are more rare but kryptonite of any colour is only found on Krypton. And yes, we do make a great deal of money from the trade." Lois' attention was caught. "And who owns the mines?" "The families on whose lands the mines are situated." The next question was obvious. "Does the El family own any mines?" A grin was spreading across the face of the Lord of El. "Quite a fe= w. When we get back to Ro-Ellion I'll show you a list of all our holdings. = For now I'm on holiday and I don't want to talk shop. But let's just sa= y, Lois, that you'll never be poor." The young Earth girl was far from mercenary, but with a candour that= was endearing she admitted, "Good, because I have to admit that I'm growing accustomed to this life style. Not that I need servants or anything but I never really enjoyed housework much. To tell the truth I don't think that I'm the domesticated type. So the fact that I don't hav= e to cook and clean suits me fine. And it's not as if your people are ill-treated. In fact they all seem very contented and happy in your service. At least the ones I've met are and it's not like any of them ar= e slaves or anything like that....... is it?" The ramble ended in a very small voice. Understanding that Lois was ambivalent about her new position on his= world he hurried to reassure her. "No, honey, I don't own anyone." He sought to still her hands that were nervously stroking the furry blanket.= = "There are no slaves on Krypton. The practice is illegal and those who a= re born on land belonging to a certain house ought to be free to leave and seek employ elsewhere. But I would hope that all my people are content t= o be part of my house and that if they had a problem they would bring it to= me so their grievance might be solved." "But what if they want to better themselves?" = Aware that Lois was approaching the heart of her misgivings about li= fe on Krypton Kal trod warily. "Passage between classes is very rare here, Lois. Kryptonians seem to accept their station in life even those at the= bottom of the pile. I know that for an Earthling that is very hard to accept but I believe that the people of El are happy with their lot and i= t is my duty and that of my family to ensure that they remain so." "And if any of them decide differently?" Regarding this as a highly improbable scenario, he contemplated a moment before answering. "Then, if I were sure that they had thought thei= r plans through, I would do my best to help them reach their goal. I am no= t the evil master, Lois." "Oh I know. I never thought you were. It's just that I'm finding this House' thing quite difficult to take especially since I've been brought up to believe that everyone is created equal. Then again part of= me has taken to it like a duck to water. It's very strange but I can't help wondering if I would feel so comfortable if I were in Etta's position." "Lois, I would hardly have gone all the way to Earth just to find a chambermaid. You're confusing Kryptonians with slave traders again. = Besides, though you aren't prepared to admit it, Etta is quite happy to b= e your maid and was more uncomfortable when you forced her to be something else." Another sigh escaped Lois. "You're right. I should never have persuaded Etta to sit with us in the evenings. The poor girl is like a fish out of water. But she's helped *me* so much with my attempts to lea= rn Kryptonian and I just thought that she would enjoy being with us. You tried to make me see but I wo uldn't listen. Oh no, Lois Lane knows best. And I used to think my moth= er was controlling, argh!" "Actually, Lois-*El*, just lately I've begun to suspect that you weren't entirely wrong about Etta," Kal admitted readily. "You'll need = a lady-in-waiting to attend you at court. Normally you would choose a girl= from the lesser nobility, someone you had known since you were a child, b= ut since you don't know anyone on Krypton I think that Etta might be suitabl= e. At first I thought her too young and timid but she's grown in confidence= these past weeks and since you two get along so well I think she would be= the perfect choice." "Won't that cause talk amongst the other nobles?" Lois was quickly catching on to these class restrictions. = "Some might take offense." An amused grin fleetingly crossed Kal's face as he thought of the more conceited members of his class. "But most= will just put it down to your Earth eccentricities. Besides, I care more= for your comfort than any mean founded gossip. If Etta makes you happy,= then Etta it shall be." Kal-El only obscurely comprehended that he had taken the first steps= towards the metamorphosis of his class-bound culture. And indeed he was not averse to the conception; Ching was his closest friend and yet Ching,= although from a respected family, was not of the nobility. The road woul= d be very long and, on occasion, extremely dangerous but at this time Kal w= as unaware that anything momentous had occurred. He only knew that he had made his Lois happy and at present that was his sole aim. = Serious matters having been discussed and concluded to the satisfaction of both parties, the conversation now turned to the inconsequential. Kal pointed out various landmarks as they sped towards their destination and as the bemused bride took in the glory of the surrounding landscape a contented silence settled over the swift gliding sleigh. = Soon the travelers left the lake and the forested valley floor behind= them as the high rugged mountains encroached ever closer to their path. = The animals leaned more strongly into their task, pulling the sledge up into the steeply sloping foothills. Unexpectedly the ground levelled into a shallow plateau and close by= a stand of trees a large glowing globe rested. In structure it reminded Lo= is of the orb ship which had carried her away from Earth though this craft w= as much less fragile. "Does someone live here?" Lois whispered, her voice echoing in the still air. "Yes! A very eccentric Lady!" Kal at last revealed. "And she lives in a ship?" She kept her voice low, afraid to break the almost mystical atmosphere. "Who is she?" "My paternal grandmother, Lady Rhana-El." "Why does she live in a ship? Doesn't she have a home?" "Several! But she loves to travel and finds this more convenient." "Like a gipsy!" "That's closer than you think, Lois." Kal's voice also dropped conspiratorially. "If you cross her hand with silver she'll tell you you= r future." "She tells fortunes?!" "Well, she doesn't use a crystal ball or tarot cards but occasionall= y some of her feelings' have been known to come true." A thought occurred to Lois and she asked suddenly, "Why wasn't she = at our wedding?" Then, recalling that she had been mostly comatose during that time, she added, "she wasn't, was she?" "No, you're right. She intended to be but, as you know, the ceremon= y was a little sooner than we anticipated. Grandmother was off-world visiting the Romany branch of her family." "Ah, let me guess; she's from the planet Rome." Kal pulled Lois towards him in an approving hug. "You're a quick study, sweetheart. Actually its called Romana, but you were very close."= "Huh-huh! Well your grandmother's psychic powers let her down on ou= r wedding date." Lois couldn't quite ignore her skepticism. = "LO-IS!" His reproval was interrupted by a frail lady stepping through the outer shell of the glistening craft. "Kal, don't be so touchy," she call= ed across the intervening space. "This is all so strange to Lois it's only natural that she should have her doubts." Lady Rhana-El walked forward to welcome the couple to what she considered her home and for the present the conversation was centred on t= he formalities of the introduction of the two women and the business of hurrying the group indoors out of the freezing air. Poli and Ching staye= d behind to cover and feed the unicorns and to turn them loose to find shelter in the trees. That done they too entered the dome and found a me= al prepared for them in the ship's control room. = Meanwhile, the young couple were seated comfortably in Lady Rhana's private sitting room where the elderly lady without preamble took Lois' hands into her own, closing her lined eyelids and furrowing her brow in concentration. Momentarily time stood still until, with a satisfied smil= e, the lady too sat in a large comfy chair. "Yes, Kal, she is the *one*." Her voice was low and throaty and she= spoke with quiet authority. "You have chosen well. And I am so glad to have met you, Lois, before I go." "Go, grandmama, are you leaving us?" The question was asked apprehensively as if the reply was to be feared. "Oh yes, but not quite to the destination you're referring to, Kal."= = His grandmother had read his intention and was clearly amused by the inference. She beamed fondly on her well loved grandson. "As you have just pointed out, albeit inadvertently, I am in the winter of my life and= I might not have much time left to fulfil my dream; to go in search of the planet Nirvana." = "Nirvana," interrupted Lois proudly, "I know that one. It's the perfect life; the perfect place; it's an Earth legend." "And a Kryptonian one too," Kal agreed. "You know we talked before about space travellers visiting other planets and leaving behind traces o= f their civilization and culture. Some Kryptonians believe that Nirvana is= the home of these extraterrestrials." "As do I and I've decided to try to verify my beliefs." This pronouncement was made with a great deal of determination. = "But, Grandmama, Nirvana is in the next galaxy and no-one knows if i= t still exists. Such a journey could be dangerous. We may never see you again." That notion clearly didn't please Kal-El. "That may be so." A trace of sadness showed in the keen eyes. "Dea= r, Kal, you have always been the favourite of all my grandchildren, and we have shared a special bond. But now you have Lois and neither you nor th= e others in my family need me in their lives. Besides, no matter where I a= m in this galaxy or beyond I will always love you. But remember this......= " = Rhana beckoned Kal to her side and taking his hand with Lois' she entwine= d their fingers with her own. "Always stay together. Your way will not always be easy, but you shall win through as long as you have each other.= = Together you are stronger than one alone. Never forget that." The lady squeezed the young hands within her grasp, staring intently into the distance as if she were witnessing future events. All at once she appear= ed every one of her seventy-six years as her shoulders slumped and her hands= trembled, but just as suddenly she emerged from her trance and her effervescent personality returned. "Enough of such serious talk. I came= here to get to know my new granddaughter before I left on my travels. So= come, Lois and tell me what you think of our adopted home and remember I too had to adjust to these stuffy Kryptonians," and she waved her hand towards her grandson, "you can tell me everything. And you must be hungr= y after your trip in that cold air......" The rest of the visit passed off pleasantly until Kal decreed that they must return if they were to reach home before nightfall. ***** Continued in 3/3 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:08:11 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Universal Union Part 3 3/3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Title: Universal Union Part 3 Part: 3/3 Author: Jenni Debbage Rating: PG-13 Feedback: Comments welcome public or privately. Summary: This is the third part of my story of Lois & Kal-El and their life on Krypton. = Part 3 has been a shorter segment and I plan on closing the 1st book of Universal Union = at the end of this part. Book two will follow sometime in the not to distan= t future, I hope, and if readers are interested i= n their continuing adventures. = Chapter Three Plotting The same steely moon that lighted the way home to Kal and Lois show= n down on the far city of Elvar, illuminating an embarrassing and slightly disquieting scene. A young man was being forcefully propelled from the overheated and garish interior of one of the city's gambling dens with a strict reminder from the proprietor that his presence was not welcome unt= il such time as he repaid his debts. The time scale given for this undertaking was exceedingly short, just 48 hours, after which time the management would be forced to apply to the gentleman's beneficiary. The implication was clear, if he wished to survive then he had to find the money to repay the debt. As the scared boy walked on through the darkened streets, staggering= a little in the freezing night air, he reviewed his options with increasing= horror. Rol-Fre was not exactly sober, though due to his precipitate exi= t from the club, he was not exactly inebriated and the full menace of his predicament could no longer be ignored. Conflicting emotions seethed in his brain. He felt humiliated and angry. How dare these off-worlders treat a nobleman of Krypton so! He would make them pay for their insolence! But how?! That was the problem! Mostly he felt desperate. He could apply to his father for financial aid but the last wrathful= interview for just that very purpose still burned uncomfortably on his memory. Lord Dom-Fre had made it entirely clear to his offspring that he= had bailed out the irresponsible young nobleman for the very last time. = Rol had been born to parents who were not in their first flush of youth a= nd throughout his adolescence the boy had been showered with all the love an= d attention that a couple devoid of a male heir for so many years had to offer. This had not been an entirely healthy situation and the child had= grown into a spoiled and arrogant youth. And while the father had recognised their error and strove to undo the harm, he was continually thwarted by his wife. To Lady Gwyn-Fre her boy would always be the perfe= ct son. = Which brought Rol-Fre to another possibility; his mother would be sympathetic and could be relied upon to help, but unfortunately she had n= ot the means. Aware that his wife would beggar herself for the sake of her troublesome son, Lord Dom-Fre had taken over the management of the household, allowing his wife only a small monthly stipend. There were, o= n the other hand, the family jewels but those that would raise enough money= to cover his considerable debts were locked away in his father's security= vault. A choleric oath was flung into the echoing empty streets as Rol-F= re realised that his chances of finding such a large amount of money were non-existent. So intent was he on his dread dilemma that he was oblivious to the transporter that had pulled out behind him shortly after his untimely exi= t from the club and was now tracking him through the darkened city. The vehicle floated closer to the lonely figure's stumbling path and a voice could be heard from the cloaked interior. "Lord Rol-Fre!" At first there was no acknowledgement. "Rol-Fre! = A moment of your time!" Slowly Rol turned toward the origin of the mysterious voice. "Who's= there?! What do you want?!" He sounded like a petulant child. The inside of the transporter became visible and a lone gentleman could be seen lounging in a throne like chair. He leaned closer to his quarry and spoke again in silken tones. "Won't you join me Rol- Fre? Le= t me carry you safely home? It is Lord Rad-Nor and I have a proposition fo= r you." Like most Kryptonians Rol knew of the Nor's reputation. In fact, he= was envious of Rad- Nor's standing in the world and yet, though he courte= d the infamous lord's company, he feared him too. Nonetheless, the strange= nobleman's next words could not be ignored. "I can help you with your problem. You need money. I can provide i= t. Of course, I would expect a little favour from you in return........" *****= Rol-Fre had been drinking. Earlier in the day he had begun by takin= g one small drink to steady his troubled nerves but one had become two then= three. He told himself it was to give him courage to face what must be done. But perhaps *it* didn't have to be done. Perhaps he should just g= o to Kal-El and confess to the whole sordid business. Of course that would= mean that he would be exposed for the drunken reprobate he really was and= his betrothal would be over. That would go down well with his family. = Even his mother would be annoyed by a rift in her connection with the roy= al family. And besides, though he was presently engaged to Kal's sister, he was= not a part of Kal's circle of friends. By the time he had arranged to ta= lk to the heir he was almost certain that Rad-Nor would have learned of his intention and silenced him forever. For the first time since his engagement he began to regret that he had not paid more attention to courting his fiancee, then he could have presented himself at Ro-Ellion a= nd simply asked to speak to Kal. However, that was not an option. He was quite sure that his tail' (and he was quite sure he was being watched), noticing such an uncharacteristic visit, would have instructions to stop him approaching the family. Over the past few weeks he had become cognizant with the fact that h= e had jumped from the frying pan well and truly into the fire when he had= agreed to do Lord Nor's bidding. Rad- Nor was just as deadly a threat as= the gambling den owners. To the proprietors his demise would be only a business transaction, messy but necessary, while he sensed without doubt that killing was something that Rad-Nor enjoyed. No, there was no way back. And if he could pull this thing off then= Rad-Nor would reward him generously. And he couldn't see why this plan would fail. Surely this inferior Earth woman would be unable to resist h= is charms. After all, his prowess in the pursuit of the female sex was legend. Rol-Fre's vanity prevented him from acknowledging that his successes were mostly with the care-givers who were paid handsomely for their services. In his view he believed that Lois-El would be no differe= nt from any other woman he chose to honour with his attention; she would be like putty in his hands. As another serving maid hurried by with a tray filled with alcoholic= libation Rol hurriedly grabbed another glass of false courage and, tossin= g it down his throat, he continued to stalk his prey. This had been his continuing task for several days, ever since the Lord and Lady of El had returned to Elvar, yet for the moment an opportunity to approach Lois-El had not arisen. The royal couple had spent most days at the palace, acquainting Lois= with the members of the court and her new role as wife of the heir to the= throne. It had been an exceedingly busy time for the Earth girl; so many= people to meet; so much to learn. Thankfully Kal and the family had stayed close by anxious to assist and protect her, a circumstance that ha= d thwarted Rol's plans and was proving a small degree claustrophobic for Lois. = Unaccustomed to such close attention, she perversely longed for her previous anonymity. Lois was not totally unhappy. Indeed, her private moments with Kal were more incredible than she had ever dreamt and her ne= w relations were showing her more concern than the family she had left behind. Living life in a goldfish bowl, though, was going to take a good= deal of getting used to and she found herself sympathising with the Earth= celebrities whose lives were dogged by the media and of whom she had been= so critical. = Not that there appeared to be the equivalent of the paparazzi' on Krypton. Since her return to the city she had witnessed a number of broadcasts' (similar to the hologram she had watched in Schie-Ellion) by Zor-El and his Prime Councillor, Lord Trey, informing the population of t= he administration's debates and conclusions. There were also frequent news bulletins on the general happenings of the planet and the Federation' but= the concept of a free press' seemed nonexistent. And yet, when Lois had= raised this issue with her husband, Kal had been taken aback and more tha= n a little chagrined that she should consider the possibility that the rule= r or his council should lie to the people. Unable for the present to argue= on the concept of a totally reliable politician or whether her husband wa= s dreadfully naive, Lois chose not to further the altercation until such ti= me as she became more acquainted with both subjects and Kal, believing that Lois' capitulation meant that she had accepted his statement without question, was happy to let the subject drop. They had still a great deal= to learn about each other. At this present moment, Lois found herself unexpectedly alone. Lady= Lara, who had been leading her daughter-in-law towards a group of high bo= rn ladies with the intention of furthering their acquaintance, had been call= ed away to attend her daughter. Why Zara had needed the assistance of her parent was not exactly clear but the message did seem urgent. With a promise to return expeditiously, the older woman had hurried away. Lois stared about her and finding herself surrounded by people with whom she had only a nodding acquaintance she speedily made her escape. = Walking from the hall, using the closest exit, she found herself in a corridor she had not yet explored. She was alone at last and, certain th= at she could retrace her steps easily, Lois wandered down the corridor conte= nt to revel in her solitude. Meanwhile, Rol-Fre smirked in self congratulation, pleased that his plan had worked so well; he had bribed the servitor well to convey the message. What could be more advantageous? Lois was alone and headed for= the conservatory, which he assumed would be empty of visitors given the freezing temperatures and dull weather outside the glass walls. With the= end of his task in sight, he swaggered with an air of satisfaction after his quarry. The smug nobleman would not have been quite so content had he witnessed a slight young figure step from the shadows and, slipping out through a servants' exit, hurry to reach the only destination available t= o the Lady of El and her stalker. = The lone door at the end of the hallway opened into a large glasshou= se built on the ramparts of the castle and as with the conservatory at Ro-Ellion it was filled with an array of strange coloured foliage and flora. Lois moved slowly forward to explore its many hued passages happy= in the knowledge that on such a dank day she had the place to herself. = Reaching the boundaries of the glass wall Lois stared out, mesmerise= d by the swirl of grey cloud that hung low over the palace walls. = Unexpectedly, she was wrenched from her meditation by a hand on her shoulder, and her heart lurched with sudden fright. = "Lady Lois, I did not mean to startle you, but I thought that you might enjoy some company." The young man smirked suggestively into her face and Lois was uncomfortable with the way he was standing so close. "Rol-Fre, I did not expect you!" Her nose twitched disgustedly at t= he stale smell of liquor on the breath that hovered much too near. The man did not move away and his hand tightened on her shoulder but= , trapped between his body and the cold glass behind her, Lois found it difficult to escape. Besides, she was not unduly concerned. It was obvious from his odour and by his unfocused stare that he had been drinki= ng and Lois had dealt with inebriated suitors before. This juvenile was not= Lex Luthor! "On the contrary, my lady! I think that you did expect me; that you= were hoping I would follow." His hand slid from her shoulder and his fingers buried themselves in the soft fall of hair at the back of her nec= k while his other hand snaked around her waist and held her tightly. "I ha= ve seen the way you look at me. I know that you want me." Pressed up against her slim form, Rol-Fre's body stirred with interest. He was drunk enough and conceited enough to believe his own rhetoric and he brought his mouth ever closer to hers. Yet somewhere in his fuzzy brain he had the sly sense to keep her arms trapped by the clos= e confines of his body. Alarm bells were starting to ring in Lois' head but she strove to remain calm and turned her head from the approach of Rol's wet repugnant lips. "I don't know what you're talking about, Rol. And you are drunk. = Take your hands of me and I'll leave here and we can forget that this eve= r happened." "You don't mean that, my dear Lois." Rol was completely caught up i= n his wishful fantasy. = "I have never given you any cause to think that I would welcome your= attentions." Lois stared directly into his eyes, willing him to heed her= . = "Let go of me!! I'm a married woman!" = "Oh yes, married to that famous do-gooder Kal-El." The man's voice was thick with derision and a building passion. "Lois, I can show you things that your estimable Kal would never dream of." And, denied the li= ps which he desired, Rol trailed moist kisses across Lois' cheek. The time for talking was over and the Lady of El squirmed forcefully= in Fre's imprisoning grip, yet the young man was stronger than his slim form suggested. Lois increased the pressure to break away, determined th= at this time she would rescue herself. In the struggle that ensued she efficiently employed the self-defence moves she had learned back on Earth= . = Suddenly the desirable female form that Rol had held so lustily beca= me a whirling dervish, arms and legs striking out with horrifying effect for= the abstracted man and within minutes, Rol found himself sailing over a deceptively slight shoulder and ending spreadeagled on the ground. He stared up aghast at the picture of outraged womanhood and recognised that= he had severely misjudged this particular Earthling. Shock and pain showed clearly on Rol's face as he struggled to rise. "What on Krytpon is going on here?" a strident female voice asked a= s Lady Lara strode forward to stand over the fallen Rol. "Lady.... La.....ra!" The gasping man forced through his clenched teeth. In sly desperation Rol-Fre saw a way out of this terrible disaste= r. "Thank goodness you arrived. Keep this mad woman from me. She attacked= me!" And he pointed an accusing finger at an amazed Lois. Her gaze shifting between the two occupants of the conservatory, Lar= a asked, aghast, "Lois, what is he talking about?" Placing trembling hands on his future mother-in-law, Rol sought to u= se the woman as a crutch in his struggle to rise. "She tricked me!" he claimed, distraught. "She sent a message that Zara was waiting for me he= re and when I arrived she threw herself upon me." "That's a lie!" But Lois was almost speechless at this rat's temerity. "I tried to tell her that I wasn't interested." Rol had succeeded t= o stand with Lara's help but for effect he continued to lean shakily on the= proffered arm. "But she wouldn't take no for an answer. She said she wa= s bored by the attentions of her saintly husband and wanted me....." A groan of indignation and scorn escaped from Lois but Rol rushed on, warmi= ng to the role of the sexually harassed gentleman. "And when I tried to lea= ve she went crazy and attacked me. Thank goodness you came in, Lady Lara-El= . = I had no wish to retaliate but I was beginning to fear for my safety. If= you hadn't arrived who knows what I might have had to do to protect mysel= f. I might have hurt the poor deluded lady." These words were added disconsolately. = = "In your dreams, Fre!" Lois couldn't hold back the retort but she w= as unhappily aware that her outburst didn't help matters. She had to defend= herself from this drunken male's lying accusations. "Lady Lara, please believe me. He's twisted everything around. I would never betray Kal an= d certainly never with that.... weasel." "Don't listen to her, my lady." Rol's tone was becoming slightly wheedling. "She's an Earthling and everyone knows how unpredictable a ra= ce they are. There were many prominent nobles who were against the choice o= f an Earthling wedded to the heir." Was that a spark of doubt that flickered in Lady Lara's eye? Who would be believed? A stranger from a far off world with a questionable reputation or a member of a respected aristocratic family. "Lady Lois, speaks the truth!" A small voice spoke up from the dept= hs of the bushy plants. "My Lady Lara, I saw it all, and that monster attacked my mistress." Etta walked forward into the light and it was apparent that, although she was a little afraid of the limelight, she was= determined to defend her lady who had also become her friend. "Well, of course, Lady Lois is telling the truth. Anyone with any sense can see that she's totally in love with my son and even if she wasn= 't she has better taste than to turn her attention to this........ weasel." = Lara borrowed Lois' description. Rol's shifty expression did often remin= d her of a rodent. "You're a fool Rol! Whatever possessed you to assault Lady Lois?" "No! You're wrong! The serving girl is in cahoots with her mistress." "Rol! Do not exacerbate your crime by lies! Now you have a choice;= you can leave here and say nothing of this distasteful episode or you can= continue with your story and we can call the guards and you can go before= the judges with your tale of sexual assault. But be warned, Etta witness= ed the whole incident and I will do all in my power to protect my family." = Lara's inference was clear; if required this lady was prepared to perjure= herself in defence of her own and she closed the gap between herself and her daughter and placed a comforting arm around the smaller woman's shoulder. Rol recognised defeat when he saw it staring him in the face. These= three women would unite against him and, though Etta was of the serving classes, with the corroboration of the others her testimony would be believed. His head drooping to his chest, he began to leave the room, gratitude dawning in his mind that perhaps he was getting off lightly for= his indiscretion. However, another blow was about to fall. "And Rol-Fre," Lady Lara called, halting him in his tracks. "I expe= ct you to terminate your engagement with my other daughter, Zara, immediatel= y. Make whatever excuse you wish that harms no innocent party." The Lady h= ad pulled herself erect as she commanded the retreating boy. "Do this or I will publicly accuse you of attempted rape." The dowager Lady of El, while totally aware that she had made an arbitrary decision which ought to have been discussed by the family, did not regret her audacious demand. The mother in Lara objected with every fibre of her being to another of her daughters being trapped in a hopeles= s union to a despicable wretch such as Rol-Fre. She would end this now, an= d if she had to face her husband's and his family's censure for her actions= , then so be it. She was, however, inclined to believe that Jor-El would concur whole heartedly with her resolution. Witnessing Rol's disreputabl= e habits since his coming of age, Jor shared her disapproval of this rogue;= yet the distressing reality was that until this incident there had been n= o due cause for terminating the engagement. Encouraged by the example of this young Earth girl to take responsibility for what she believed to be true, Lady Lara would seize the moment. = ***** How had things gone so terribly wrong? Rol sidled slowly into the audience hall with the aura of a cornered rat. The realization of the danger in which he stood coalesced in his mind as he caught sight of Rad-Nor waiting with his wife Lady Keira to carry out the next part of th= e plan. At Rol's entrance the menacing Lord of Nor's brow lowered in suppressed ire. = Some time ago Nor had witnessed a puzzled Lady Lara return to the hall after her unnecessary mercy mission and question a passing servant w= ho appeared to answer her queries to her satisfaction. When he watched her leave, apparently in search of Lois, Nor had been afraid that his plan of= revelation was about to be pre-empted by his meddling mother-in- law. Of= course, there was always the chance that Lady Lara-El would find her daughter-in- law in a compromising position with her future son. That occurrence would serve his purpose even better than the illicit lovers' discovery by himself and his wife. No-one would suspect a conspiracy whe= n the two were accused by Lady Lara. = And so he had convinced himself that his scheme still had every chan= ce of success and he waited in ill concealed excitement for the commotion to= erupt. The minutes passed and everything remained calm....... something was wrong. When a brow-beaten Rol-Fre walked into the room and almost shrank from his presence he concluded that his scheme had failed yet agai= n. The Earth woman had more lives than a cat! You couldn't get reliable henchmen these days! That miserable Fre would pay for his failure! He h= ad spent a great deal of his hard earned cash to bail out that idiot. And y= et the fool was a Fre and an only son. One day all the lands and riches of the family would be his and whoever controlled the boy would control the House of Fre. A clever man looked to the future. He would reprimand Rol= but he would forgive him and make it clear that he would continue to support the young fool's extravagant life style. The conceited puppy wou= ld never recognise that he was being used until such time when the leash wou= ld be forcefully dragged in. *****= = Following the altercation in the glass house of the palace, there followed a period of calm for the royal family. The youthful Lady of El recovered quickly from her brush with a deadly poison and with her less dangerous, unpublicized assault from a drunken suitor. Indeed the former= nauseating incident had one pleasing outcome; that of breaking the betrothal between Zara and Rol-Fre. For a short time, the breach had scandalized and puzzled the nobilit= y of Krypton, no reason having been proffered by the young Lord for his shocking decision. The senior Lord Fre had remonstrated strongly with hi= s son to no avail and even the poor long suffering mother could find no excuse for her son's actions. = Strangely, Lady Zara did not seem overly distressed by this almost unprecedented occurrence, and the ostracized young Lord went on his degenerate way unconcerned that he was a figure of derision or that he ha= d broken his parents' heart. The lady at the very heart of the matter, Lady Lois-El, was not particularly worried about public opinion, nor was she overly concerned with that of the family. All her anxieties centred on the reaction of he= r husband. Her fears were unfounded. Never for one second did Kal doubt h= is Lois. Indeed, his overwhelming emotion on being informed of the incident= was one of rage, and his immediate intention was to rush out and demand satisfaction from Rol-Fre for the insult to his wife. Fortunately, Kal w= as soon persuaded that such a foolhardy course of action would simply negate= the cover-up and give the opposition and the mean- hearted a chance to sully Lois' reputation. And if that young man, having been baulked of hi= s prey, sulked a very little for a few days, his relationship with his wife= grew ever stronger with yet another problem overcome. = As with most scandals the public, unable to find any tantalizing information, lost interest in the affair and, after commiserating with bo= th families and turning a cold shoulder on their erstwhile peer, the subject= of the broken betrothal faded into memory. One question still, however, remained in the minds of the El family.= = If the Fres had disowned their son, who was financing his profligate habits? And if their suspicions were correct why would Rad-Nor pick up t= he tab? It didn't take much consideration to arrive at the assumption that Rol-Fre's attempted rape was carefully planned. = Thankfully, due to Etta's protection of her mistress, Lara's faith = in her daughter-in-law, and her sensible handling of the situation no untowa= rd scandal touched Lady Lois and Nor's dastardly plot to discredit the Earth= girl failed c ompletely. But the family of El were under no illusions that their enemy= would give in and accordingly they became ever more vigilant in their car= e of Lois. Unfortunately Nor changed tactics and targeted a different prey= . *****= To be continued in Universal Union Book 2. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:39:21 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Cheque's In the Post (Was Re: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Two plugs in one evening, Joy? Are you angling for a bonus? ;) Thanks! LabRat :) (having a good week. :~D) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@ukf.net "They couldn't hit an elephant from this dist...." The final words of General John Sedgwick, spoken while looking over the parapet at enemy lines during the Battle of Spotsylvania in 1864. "You will never amount to very much." - Munich Schoolmaster to Albert Einstein, aged 10. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:51:00 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: The Innocent Bystander's Survival Guide In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:38 AM 10/01/1999 -0400, you wrote: >On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 13:52:07 -0500 Carolyn Schnall > wrote: > >> Oh Debby:) > >> This is hilarious!!!! I'm so glad you found and posted this!!! Keep >'em coming!!! < > >Or you could go to John's website: > >http://www.erols.com/vansickl/scifi.htm > >where you will find this and the other lists for Heroes, True Loves, >Sidekicks and Evil Henchmen (including crazed cultists, Legion of Doom >troopers and special advice for an Evil Overlord's Beautiful Daughter). >I'm particularly fond of the last one because I contributed to it . Isn't it great? I haven't visited the site, but he runs them occasionally on rec.arts.tv.sf (I think the group title is) and people add new ones. I just saw a movie wherein an obvious piece of advice for the hero came up: when evil scientist/genius explains his plan to conquer the world to you, a plan which seems perfecty logical to him, nod and look interested and as though you think he may be onto something... then later, when he thinks you're harmless, escape and inform the authorities. *Never* say anything like "Isn't that God's prerogative?" for the bad guy may say "Whose side do you think God is on?" (I just watched a tape of "Storm", a natural disaster movie featuring a "Dr. Platt" as a secondary character). >All are hilarious, and should be required reading for their respective >subjects -- I can just see Lois nodding as she reads the True Love >list, although she might be offended by the items about seeing through >the Hero's obvious disguise. > >And if being a good guy or a mere henchman isn't enough, then try > >http://www.eviloverlord.com/ > >for advice for all aspiring Evil Overlords. But, since it was written >or compiled _by_ an EO, should you trust it? There's been one created recently for the Mad Scientist but it isn't very long yet. > >Phil Debby Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:31:56 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: L&C Fanfic Writing Session Saturday, October 2, 1999 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, Skip week is over and we hope you can join us Saturday, October 2, 1999, for our fanfic writing session. Our premise this week: Our Unintentional season finale ;). After nine long months Lois is *finally* about to give birth to the twins :). In addition we would still like to hear from you if you have any story premises of your own that you would like us to explore together. You can either email them to me at: eraygun@aol.com Or better still, just bring your ideas with you when you join us this Saturday or for our weekly "story bouncing" sessions on Wednesdays on #L&CFicOrg, starting around 9:00 PM EDT. We generally meet Saturdays starting at 3:30 PM EDT and try to start writing fairly soon thereafter. You can come and join the fun at any time, however. We are usually there for several hours since writing a story takes time. Since #L&CFanfic is on occasion "invite only" please message if you want to join us. If an official "inviter" is designated, we will let you know. Some of us should be hanging out on #Loiscla. A note on procedure here ;) : When people need to be caught up on the story in progress after being bounced off IRC or just joining the session late, please try and avoid pasting the story directly into the channel window. Please do that in a private message or dcc-chat window instead. Hope to see you all there! Cheers, Eileen ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 18:35:38 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Judith Williams To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 12:24 PM Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" > Sheila, I just finished your story, " A Shot in the Dark" and was blown > away. It is so beautiful. You have great insight into the feelings of the > handicapped. Was this PG-14? Your handling so um, "steamy" scenes is very > tasteful. Thank you, Jude. My youngest son is in a wheelchair, so I really was "writing what I know." I wrote the story because of him--to let everyone know that handicapped people can have full, rewarding lives, too. PG-14? I think so. Kathy is the one who helped me bring "Faster Than a Speeding Bullet" down to PG-13 level. I try to keep scenes as steamy as possible without slipping over the edge, so I walk that narrow tightrope Kathy mentioned to Charlotte, and sometimes I fall off. ("How's that, Kathy?" "Umm, Sheila, you've got it down to an 'R.'" "'R'?! I took out all the specific language." "Yeah, but that whole conversation takes place while they're actually having sex." "But it's just dialog." "About how the sex feels. And even though you took out the references to Clark's rear end, you kept 'naked back,' and I see an 'entered' in here, too." "Oh.... Too much, huh? Darn.") >I stand in awe of your craftsmanship. Thank you. I work hard at it, and it pleases me more than you know that you mention it. Sheila ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:24:33 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: Cruise pt1 pg1 In-Reply-To: <3edab0b8.25262e5d@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I am responding to the listserv on this, so I can get other comments or >corrections on my technical method. See below. > >Then when I get it ready for e-mail, I pull it into a text file, set my >margins to 2" inches and save it as text with line breaks. This puts the >breaks at the end of each line for me. I am, however, experimenting with how >long the lines should be on the e-mail version and would appreciate feedback. Charlotte, the problem is that some of the email programs put a return after 80 characters, rather than so many inches. So if you use a proportionally-spaced font (Ariel or Times Roman or CG Times) or a small font size, a line with a number of narrow letters like "i" or "l" may have more than 80 characters in it. I normally use 12-point Courier (which *isn't* proportionally spaced) with 1 1/4" margins, and that rarely causes line-break problems. Give it a shot and see. Sheila ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:46:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" (This post is beyond PG-13 ) In-Reply-To: <005b01bf0c6e$0f89fae0$ce3c0a0a@alapstaff2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Warning: This message crosses the line between PG-13 and R, but it's the only way I feel I can adequately answer the question. At 6:35 PM -0600 10/1/99, Sheila Harper wrote: > And even though you took out the references to Clark's rear end, >you kept 'naked back,' and I see an 'entered' in here, too." "Oh.... Too >much, huh? Darn.") ROTFL!!! So true, so true ... OK, guys, I'm going to try to do my best to answer this question. I get it a lot -- "what exactly is PG-13 and what am I allowed and not allowed to say?" First off, I want to admit right up front that what the Archive considers PG-13 is not the same thing as the movies. We are more restrictive. TV-14 or TV-M television is more in keeping with our PG-13 ratings. In a PG-13 movie these days, cursing, violence and partial nudity seems to be the norm. In a TV-M show, however, these things are more limited. Let's take a show like NYPD Blue. They may have a few curse words or colorful descriptions in dialogue, but you won't find an "F-word" in the bunch. Nudity is brief when shown, but more often implied. You will commonly see bare limbs peeking out from sheets, and you might occasionally see a nude behind or a breast. You will even occasionally see a simulated sex scene, done most often under a sheet, but every once in awhile, shown in profile with strategically placed limbs covering the essentials. What you won't see, however, is concentrated, specific foreplay -- say, a man stimulating a woman's nipples (see, this is where we go into R ), or hands dipping below the waist. To be more specific to L&C, here are some flags for me: Swearing: This is where we differ most from PG-13 movies. I don't mind the occasional curse word from a side character, especially when it's *in* character. What I'm less pleased with is when Lois or Clark (or any of the other main players) is swearing a blue streak. I suggest to authors in this case that they look to the show itself to guide their dialogue -- Lois and Perry uttered the occasional "hell" and "damn", but no one ever went beyond this. To give some specific examples, in the recent "Timeless", a street thief hisses "bitch!" when a woman hurts him during his attack. I find that completely appropriate. However, in another story submitted once, a teenage Lois was cursing in every other paragraph. That may be the author's view of the way teenagers talk, but I didn't feel it was appropriate for the Archive, and I asked the author to rework it. Sex: As I said above, specific descriptions are my biggest flags. You can say "the curve of her breast", but when you get into "he cupped her naked flesh and teased the nipple", I'm going to nix you. Same with describing sex itself -- you can say "they made love slowly (passionately, etc.)" but when you move into "he entered her slowly" -- nada. Other flag words -- erection, orgasm ... well, you get the idea. Non-sexual nudity isn't usually a problem. Heck, you could even have Lois join Clark in the shower ... as long as you leave it at the innuendo of what happens next. Sexual arousal -- if you have one of them getting very warm, no problem; putting a towel over the swim suit to cover 'evidence', I'll probably let it go. But when you start describing the 'bulge' in detail, I'll likely be pulling you back. Violence: This is the hardest one for me to verbalize. Fortunately (for me), we don't have too many violent stories. For the most part, I go by what we see on TV ... if a story has the violence level from a typical L&C episode, no problem. If we extend into "NYPD Blue" violence, I'll give the story a PG-13 rating and maybe work a mention to mature themes into the description, but I won't deny the story. I honestly can't remember denying a story based on violence, though I did ask Jeff to tone down the climax scene a bit in "Oh Give Me A Home". (The whole "cut the unborn baby out of the mother" thing just went a bit too far for me. ) Appropriate-ness: This is my catch all "I reserve the right to deny the submission of any story" category. There are simply some stories that I find offensive and don't see a benefit to them being on the Archive. The violence or sex itself might not be over the line, but IMO, the story is distasteful. This does not happen very often (thank goodness). The best I can do is give one example -- there is a story on the Archive, uploaded before my team took over, where Dan visits Lois, finds out she's married to Clark, freaks out and beats her up. The whole story is 3K, and I find it pointless and offensive. If that story were submitted to me, it would have been returned to the author. So, how's that? Did I answer the question? If you need any further info, please ask! I'm happy to help out in whatever way I can. Kathy (to summarize this entire post in 7 words -- 'naked back' is fine, 'entered' is not ;)) _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive kathyb@springnet1.com OR kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:28:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Maryann James Subject: OUATIM compilation hello folcs.. i've been a lurker on this board for a while now, i'm finally coming out of the closet. :) i have been following OUATIM since it started, and i have been trying to put *all* of the posts together. i *think* i have been sucessful, i need to clean up a couple of things, and then it will be ready for "distribution". :) anyone interested? ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:45:12 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >(Though maybe I should consider at what point I wanted to cover >my mother's eyes when I watched 'Pretty Woman' with her a few years >ago... ). >Wendy Oh boy, if I was to use your method, Wendy, just about NOTHING would be under PG! My mom now knows that I write LnC fic, and have FoLC buddies (and thinks it's cool - YAY!) and I'm thinking about sending her one of my fics. But the problem is *which* one... Moments of Illumination would be incomprehensible to her since she has never seen the show. Ditto for From The Beginning - plus it's got some waffy parts, and she told me she is uncomfortable with 'mushy' stuff. Pranks to the Prankster? Ditto, plus she's uncomfortable with supernatural stuff... I guess it will have to be What REALLY Happened. But Lois and Clark only get a passing mention in it, so it's not really an indicator of what I consider to be my best writing. Oh boy - what a to-do! Perhaps I will just give her the URL for WRH on the archive, and hope she does a little surfing... Melisma (who is crawling back under her rock, ducking furiously to avoid the rotten tomatoes thrown by the listmembers who are tired of hearing her babble...) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:55:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991001204512.007bdd40@pop.intergate.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 8:45 PM -0700 10/1/99, Melisma wrote: My mom now knows that I write LnC fic, and have FoLC buddies (and >thinks it's cool - YAY!) and I'm thinking about sending her one of my fics. >But the problem is *which* one... You'll just have to write another one that you *can* send her. ;) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:05:57 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >At 8:45 PM -0700 10/1/99, Melisma wrote: > >My mom now knows that I write LnC fic, and have FoLC buddies (and >>thinks it's cool - YAY!) and I'm thinking about sending her one of my fics. >>But the problem is *which* one... > >You'll just have to write another one that you *can* send her. ;) > >Kathy Yeah, that *does* seem the logical solution, Kathy. Except, I can't seem to finish the fics I'm already working on - time constraints, or a muse that is taking a *lo-o-o-ng* vacation... Mind you, I have a few ideas. Melisma ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:24:46 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Andrea Englert Subject: Re: L&C Fanfic Writing Session Saturday, October 2, 1999 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed could someone be so kind and remind me what server this will be on? I'm not sure if I want to help write, but I definately want to watch :). Thanks! Sambrea ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:30:59 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: L&C Fanfic Writing Session Saturday, October 2, 1999 In-Reply-To: <19991002042446.13873.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 9:24 PM -0700 10/1/99, Andrea Englert wrote: >could someone be so kind and remind me what server this will be on? I'm not >sure if I want to help write, but I definately want to watch :). Thanks! All L&C IRC channels are on the "Undernet" servers. Have fun! Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:34:45 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: L&C Fanfic Writing Session Saturday, October 2, 1999 In-Reply-To: <19991002042446.13873.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sambrea, Go onto any Undernet server that will let you get on IRC. Then type /join #l&cfanfic, hit enter, and voila! Instant peanut gallery seat :) Oh, and welcome to the show - I hope you enjoy watching us work as much as I enjoy working with all the greats of Folcdom... Melisma At 09:24 PM 10/1/99 PDT, you wrote: >could someone be so kind and remind me what server this will be on? I'm not >sure if I want to help write, but I definately want to watch :). Thanks! > >Sambrea > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:39:09 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Andrea Englert Subject: Challenge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Hi! I've got a challenge for everyone. Go to: http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/Canopy/3651/og3_gm.mid and listen to the music there. Think about what that music makes you feel and what you think of when you hear it. Write a fan fic based on that. Note: I found this piece when I was searching for sites for an Australian tv show called "Ocean Girl". I have no clue what's it's called or anything, but I fell in love with it the moment I heard it. I also found a clip of the scene where the music can be heard in the backround. It's at: http://tmi.cob.fsu.edu/~jonathan/lve.avi Warning: it takes a long time to load. Sambrea ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:46:07 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Andrea Englert Subject: Re: Challenge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I forgot to mention one thing. A lot of the time I have trouble loading the .avi on the first try, but if you reload it, it usually works. Sambrea ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 01:45:35 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" (Was: RE: Cruise, Part 1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/99 11:15:05 AM EST, erink@IDA.NET writes: << Basically she told me that whatever we would see in the LNC episodes, plus maybe a *little* bit more, was acceptable for the archive's highest PG13 ratings. If you can picture you're fanfic playing out on TV, would you cover your kids' eyes when a certain part came up? >> Ok i don't have kids yet.. Heck i don't even have a hubby yet, but that info just proved to be really helpful for me! I am working on my first LnC fanfic and there are some parts that i would definately cover my kids' eyes, if i had any! LOL! Thanks for the tip. ;) Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 23:55:40 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: OUATIM compilation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds good to me! :-) ----------------------- "Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" "Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" --crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" ----- Original Message ----- From: Maryann James To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 8:28 PM Subject: OUATIM compilation > hello folcs.. > > i've been a lurker on this board for a while now, i'm finally coming out of > the closet. :) > > i have been following OUATIM since it started, and i have been trying to > put *all* of the posts together. i *think* i have been sucessful, i need to > clean up a couple of things, and then it will be ready > for "distribution". :) > > anyone interested? > > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 01:58:06 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sheila wrote: I try to keep scenes as steamy as >possible without slipping over the edge, so I walk that narrow tightrope >Kathy mentioned to Charlotte, and sometimes I fall off. ("How's that, >Kathy?" "Umm, Sheila, you've got it down to an 'R.'" "'R'?! I took out >all the specific language." "Yeah, but that whole conversation takes place >while they're actually having sex." "But it's just dialog." "About how the >sex feels. And even though you took out the references to Clark's rear end, >you kept 'naked back,' and I see an 'entered' in here, too." "Oh.... Too >much, huh? Darn.") LOL, Sheila. But....'naked back' is *nfic*????!!! LabRat :) (on that criteria expecting my GE to return the pg13 version of Caped Fear any day now with much red pen added. ;) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@ukf.net "They couldn't hit an elephant from this dist...." The final words of General John Sedgwick, spoken while looking over the parapet at enemy lines during the Battle of Spotsylvania in 1864. "You will never amount to very much." - Munich Schoolmaster to Albert Einstein, aged 10. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:29:09 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" (This post is beyond PG-13 ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathy wrote: > >OK, guys, I'm going to try to do my best to answer this question. I get it >a lot -- "what exactly is PG-13 and what am I allowed and not allowed to >say?" And did so excellently too, thanks. Now filing away for future reference. ;) > >Swearing: This is where we differ most from PG-13 movies. I don't mind >the occasional curse word from a side character, especially when it's *in* >character. What I'm less pleased with is when Lois or Clark (or any of the >other main players) is swearing a blue streak. I suggest to authors in >this case that they look to the show itself to guide their dialogue -- Lois >and Perry uttered the occasional "hell" and "damn", but no one ever went >beyond this... LOL. This reminds me of the time I was reprimanded by an editor who objected to my persistent and unnecessary use of obscenities throughout' when I submitted a Young Riders story. I was utterly confused until I checked back and discovered her objections were to the fact that I'd used the word 'damn' 3 times in a 250 page story. Well, they were cowboys in the Old West!! Ever since I've never been quite sure whether my version of mild cussing matches with the free world's. LabRat :) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@ukf.net "They couldn't hit an elephant from this dist...." The final words of General John Sedgwick, spoken while looking over the parapet at enemy lines during the Battle of Spotsylvania in 1864. "You will never amount to very much." - Munich Schoolmaster to Albert Einstein, aged 10. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 09:40:11 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: Cruise Comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Judith - Do you have your html turned on in your mail program. I keep getting messages from you that are like this: Judith Williams wrote: > > Part 1.1 Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: quoted-printable And then, I click on the little icon next to "Part 1.1" and get the actual text which comes out as one long line, scrolling off the screen. >I don't know about PG-14 ratings. but I get tired of L&C stories that >ABC and Disney approve of. It is possible to be adult without being >crude or pornographic. The descriptions of L&C may have been lustful, >but they weren't crude or pornographic. By the way, what is the nfic >list? How can I get on it? Do I want to get on it? To answer your question further, there are also sites which are not password protected -- mine, for instance, and a few others mostly belonging to the ladies of Europe. I sometimes think we should link together, but if the Feds come after me (which I seriously doubt) I'd rather they get me alone -- except for Genevieve, who I'm going to push in front of me cause she has three children and a husband and looks so innocent.;) Here's the url: http://www.erols.com/nightsky/sandy/ Seriously though, there are warnings there for the "faint of heart or stomach or kidneys or whatever" and the stories are no worse than bodice rippers which I can buy, peruse, and ogle right next to the ice cream freezer at my local Giant supermarket. As a matter of fact, they also have the "romance section" right next to the children's book section at a Borders downtown. The sections run right into each other and are hard to tell apart because they both have pretty, eye-catching, colorful pictures on the cover unlike the "serious literature" section. I guess the store figures, if the kids are going to sit there and read "Little Red Riding Hood," Mom can keep one eye on them while being entertained by the "Big Bad Wolf." Sandy -- whose bestfriend in high school and long after was named Judith :) -- Judith Burnett. She was related to Francis Hodgson Burnett who wrote "The Secret Garden," "Little Lord Fauntleroy," "The Little Princess," among others. smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 10:08:02 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Comments on my fiction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am about to download todays comments and will read them asap. I just wanted to thank each and every one of you. I really appreciate the information. Sometimes reading between the lines of posted 'rules' just idoesn't work. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:01:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Universal Union Part 3 -- Comments & Spoilers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Debbage wrote: > > Title: Universal Union Part 3 > > Part: 1/3 > > Author: Jenni Debbage > > Rating: PG-13 > > Feedback: Comments welcome public or privately. > > Summary: This is the third part of my story of Lois & Kal-El and their > life on Krypton. In Part 2 Lois' collapse left > Kal wondering if his happiness would be snatched away. There be spoilers beyond this point. Jenni: I must tell you, I'm enjoying your story about Krypton very much. I'm envious that you managed to create a whole new world so well, interjecting the most unexpected things -- for instance, unicorns! I tried to do the same in my own Krypton story but I kept being held back by my very prosaic mind. You have an excellent "feel for place" -- I mean, creating a setting and making the reader feel as if they are actually there. I could sense the chill of the planet in winter and the warmth by the fire. You really should consider trying your hand at writing historical romances. I think you'd be good at that. If you don't mind (and I see by your feedback statement above that you probably don't) I want to point out a few minor things. At one point you use the phrase, "in the circumstances." I've seen other writers use that recently, and I keep thinking ... isn't it, "under the circumstances." I'm beginning to doubt myself now. (I have the same problem with "to the contrary." I want to say "on the contrary" for some reason.) > Chapter Two > > Schie-Hellion Schie-Hellion. What an interesting name. How did you come up with it? Does it mean something? > Bathed in the shaft of silvery > light the sheer gown highlighted the silhouette of Lois' desirable curves. > It was more than flesh and blood could resist and Kal stood and walked > towards his bride as if in a trance. Reaching her side, he opened his arms > to her and she walked within his embrace. > > "Lois, are you sure you are ready for this?" he questioned in a voice > thick with passion. > > And in the words she had given him back on Earth she reassured him of > her love. "With all my heart." Ha! I've been reading so much n-fic lately in order to try and vote in the nKerths, that, at this point, I began looking for a missing page. Hey, what happened next ... exactly? Oh no! Fade to black. Pout. > Nevertheless, there were a few private gambling clubs scattered throughout > the main cities, set up by sharp off world entrepreneurs of the Space > Confederation, of which Krypton was a prime member, who saw an niche in the > market on this ascetic planet. I think it should be "a niche." > Lois, being a founder member of the college poker school, took to the > new game (which Lois placed somewhere between Canasta and Bridge ) "founding member" (?) > "What was that?" > > "That was kryptonite, red kryptonite," Kal helpfully explained. > "There are a number of different colours and all have slightly different > qualities. This red variety when charged retains and conducts heat and is > excellent as a source of central heating during our hard winters." [snip] > "Minx," he retaliated, pulling her even closer. "How am I supposed to > concentrate with you breathing in my ear?" So close was she that their > lips were almost touching and he swiftly took her mouth in a deeply sensual > kiss. Once he was satisfied that Lois had lost all measure of > concentration he broke the contact. "Green!" > > Lois' eyes opened in confusion. "Green! What's green?" > > "Kryptonite! You asked about the other varieties. Really, Lois, you > should heed your husband." Uh oh! I see a future chapter of this story here.... Could it be that kryptonite will begin to turn against the planet and poor Kal and Lois El will have to nab a spaceship for their only son sending him to Earth. >"Won't you join me Rol- Fre? Is this a play on Rolf from "Top Copy?" He was a real reprobate too, but I loved him. > Suddenly the desirable female form that Rol had held so lustily became > a whirling dervish, arms and legs striking out with horrifying effect for > the abstracted man and within minutes, Rol found himself sailing over a > deceptively slight shoulder and ending spreadeagled on the ground. abstracted man? You mean "distracted man?" > then so be it. She was, however, inclined to believe that Jor-El would > concur whole heartedly with her resolution. wholeheartedly -- one word. > And so he had convinced himself that his scheme still had every chance > of success and he waited in ill concealed excitement for the commotion to > erupt. hyphenate ill-concealed, I think -- right? > The Earth woman had more lives than a cat! You couldn't get reliable > henchmen these days! That miserable Fre would pay for his failure! He had > spent a great deal of his hard earned cash to bail out that idiot. And yet > the fool was a Fre and an only son. One day all the lands and riches of > the family would be his and whoever controlled the boy would control the > House of Fre. A clever man looked to the future. He would reprimand Rol > but he would forgive him and make it clear that he would continue to > support the young fool's extravagant life style. The conceited puppy would > never recognise that he was being used until such time when the leash would > be forcefully dragged in. How will this happen in light of later developments, such as: > One question still, however, remained in the minds of the El family. > If the Fres had disowned their son, who was financing his profligate > habits? And if their suspicions were correct why would Rad-Nor pick up the > tab? It didn't take much consideration to arrive at the assumption that > Rol-Fre's attempted rape was carefully planned. If Rol-Fre was disowned, does that mean disinherited? If so, he obviously wouldn't get the lands, the property, the money, etc. and Rad-Nor would have no way of getting them either -- unless *he* has some other claim on them? I see a law suit in their future. Is there a Perry Mason on the planet? (Hmm. This probably occurred to all of you a whole heck of a lot earlier, but Mayson Drake's name is a combo of the TV characters, Perry Mason and Paul Drake. Boy. "Duh" to me.) Well, I'll certainly be interested in finding out how this all comes about -- how ever it happens. Good work. Sandy smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:34:35 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rich & Dawn Subject: NKerth 99 Update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi FoLCs, First we want to thank everyone who voted for this year's NKerth awards. We had 124 votes come in! Irene and I are working on getting all these tallied. Thanks again for participating. I also want to thank Pam for helping to coordinate volunteers for the ceremony this week - thank you!, and thank everyone who will be helping us out with this. Joy and UltraCape have submitted some wonderful commercials - thanks, ladies! Anne is working on puting together the sounds - thanks, Anne! We are still in need of a few more presenters, some back ups, and a back up mc. If you'd like to be involved in what will be a great night of fun, email me right away. "Practice" for all those involved with the ceremony will be next Saturday at 6 pm Eastern time on #nkerth. Also, a change in the audience channel. It will now be on #nkerthchat. That's it for now. The ceremony is just 2 weeks away! Thanks! Dawn ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 12:56:54 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Cruise Comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/99 9:42:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, smcdermin@EROLS.COM writes: << As a matter of fact, they also have the "romance section" right next to the children's book section at a Borders downtown. The sections run right into each other and are hard to tell apart because they both have pretty, eye-catching, colorful pictures on the cover unlike the "serious literature" section. I guess the store figures, if the kids are going to sit there and read "Little Red Riding Hood," Mom can keep one eye on them while being entertained by the "Big Bad Wolf." >> ROTFL! I wish they'd had that setup in the bookstores near me when my kids were small. The store we usually went to had the romance section next to the sci-fi, fantasy and horror section, so my younger son learned early on to appreciate five-headed monsters and creatures oozing various noxious fluids. (It didn't help that the books looked a lot like Goosebumps books which some teacher had introduced him to in class.)This of course, led to conferences with his eighth grade teacher to explain that he really wasn't demented -- he just had interesting taste in book covers. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:05:54 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: PG-13 and nfic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B5_01BF0CDF.3DFA08E0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01BF0CDF.3DFA08E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks to everyone who replied to my whine about stories for ABC and = Disney. Just to clarify, I'm not panting for um, uh. "stimulation" so = much as looking for intelligent, adult realism. There are some good = writers in the L&C fanfic who provide this.=20 KATHY, thanks for the clarification on what is acceptable. Am about to = embark on my first attempt at a story which I started thinking about = several years ago. It has a mature viewpoint, and I hope will be adult = and realistic, but still acceptable.=20 SANDY, As far as I know my e-mail doesn't have the problem you = mentioned, but I'll have my live-in tech-guy check it out. He's a Tom = Swifty; I'm a Nancy Drew. As for the "bodice ripper" info, many thanks. I get those on tape = cassette from the Library for the handicapped. "Steamy" takes on a = whole new connotation when intoned by a willing but talent-challenged = reader. THANKS AGAIN TO EVERYONE. Jude =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01BF0CDF.3DFA08E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to everyone who replied to my = whine about=20 stories for ABC and Disney.  Just to clarify, I'm not panting for = um, uh.=20 "stimulation" so much as looking for intelligent, adult realism.  = There are=20 some good writers in the L&C fanfic who provide this.
KATHY, thanks for the clarification on = what is=20 acceptable.  Am about to embark on my first attempt at a story = which=20 I started thinking about several years ago.  It has a mature=20 viewpoint, and I hope will be adult and realistic, but still=20 acceptable. 
SANDY,  As far as I know my e-mail = doesn't=20 have the problem you mentioned, but I'll  have my live-in  = tech-guy=20 check it out.  He's a Tom Swifty; I'm a Nancy Drew.
As for the "bodice ripper" info,  = many=20 thanks.  I get those on tape cassette from the Library for the=20 handicapped.  "Steamy" takes on a whole new connotation when = intoned by a=20 willing but talent-challenged reader.
THANKS AGAIN TO=20 EVERYONE.        Jude
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B5_01BF0CDF.3DFA08E0-- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 16:21:47 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Comment> OUATIM: "dog shows" In-Reply-To: <199910010240_MC2-8724-82BA@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 2:39 AM -0400 10/1/99, John Debbage wrote: >Clark, you promised!! > >I checked the sent messages just to bring myself up to speed after my >little 'bad turn' this morning. It's bad enough that you left me with my >head stuck down the toilet bowl to rush off and investigate the truck >driver's union(OK I know you had to meet a source and these guys start work >early) but now that you've let Perry in on our 'secret' he'll have me >covering dog shows for the next seven months. > >It's not fair! I probably shouldn't start this thread again, since I'm sure we've discussed it before , but in the US, it's pretty much illegal for Perry to do this. Not sure how things are in the UK, Jenni, but if Lois's fears came true, the DP would have quite a lawsuit on its hands, not to mention the terrible publicity. I know, I know, I'm being a pain, but I've seen this in so many fanfics and it always makes me cringe. Kathy :) ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 15:29:30 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" In-Reply-To: <000201bf0cbe$35f60b60$c69501d4@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >>"And even though you took out the references to Clark's rear end, >>you kept 'naked back,' and I see an 'entered' in here, too." "Oh.... Too >>much, huh? Darn.") >LOL, Sheila. But....'naked back' is *nfic*????!!! No, it isn't, LabRat. That's on the PG side of the line. But sometimes it's a matter of context. When I was converting FTaSB from NC-17 to PG-13, Kathy and I discussed a concern that some of my beta editors had had about my use of "She was warm and yielding in his arms, and his body was becoming hard and insistent in response." Some of them thought that my last clause was too explicit--at least in terms of what was implied. Kathy and I were a little puzzled because no one had commented on an earlier scene when Lois mentioned that something that had occurred off-screen was a good appetizer but that she was now ready for the "main course"--as her hand trailed down Clark's naked back. We thought *that* scene was more explicit in its implications of on-going sexual activity than the "hard and insistent" line was. I finally took out the scene with the "naked back" line from the PG-13 version--not because of any particular words (I'd already removed all the explicit ones) but because the scene gave too much of a sexual focus to the story, even more than an episode like VD, and therefore wasn't appropriate for S5. Anyway, that's how "naked back" ended out being considered nfic. Sheila ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 14:17:05 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Melisma wrote: > > Yeah, that *does* seem the logical solution, Kathy. Except, I can't seem to > finish the fics I'm already working on - time constraints, or a muse that > is taking a *lo-o-o-ng* vacation... Mind you, I have a few ideas. > Seems to me, Melisma, that your muse is serving you just fine as Ellen in OUATIM. I love the way she just butts in whenever she feels like it . Yvonne Arbitrator, Once Upon A Time In Metropolis (yconnell@ukf.net) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:31:37 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: OT: fan from Holland would like L&C episodes Comments: cc: LoisandClarkNAOS@onelist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is a note I received from a fan and said I'd pass along. Please contact her privately at her e-mail address since I don't think she's subscribed to the list: >>I'm Janine van Gaal and I am 13 years old. I live in Holland and I really like Lois and Clark. Only I never saw seasons 1 & 2. And wanna ask you if you now a place where I can get these seasons. Thanks, Janine van Gaal jvangaal@hotmail.com<<< ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:36:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Comments on the Congo (and Spoilers) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy: I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be doing your story justice since it's quite a large one with a lot of delicious details. I apologize most sincerely in advance. SPOILERS BELOW Anyway ... I loved the way you began this story -- with Lois as the world-weary traveler wanting to make a place for herself in Metropolis and Clark as the established DP journalist. I especially liked how you dealt with what happened to Lois in the interim and why she stayed away. 1) Beyond that, the first thing which caught my attention is that in your universe H.G. Wells was instrumental in helping Clark become Superman (even "giving" him the name via a reporter other than Lois). You said: >Clark now felt confident enough to accept himself exactly as he was >and to be proud of his origins. All of this before Lois even arrived, which seemed to be saying that *she* wasn't critical to his being Superman and accepting himself *but* critical to his being complete and feeling a full part of this world. I think, in your universe, what also helped Clark to be stronger -- to withstand the pressures of someone like Lana -- was the fact that he had the globe. With the globe, Clark knows who he is, and therefore, isn't as likely to fall prey to the doubts and uncertainties which Lana fed off of. Some may say that even in your story Wells was ultimately influenced by a parallel universe which included Clark's parents and Lois herself, but then, why not just plop Lois down in Metropolis with a yet-to-be-imagined Superman and let *her* do her thing as happened in Tempus Anyone? Well ... besides the fact that you needed Superman to exist in order for Lois to react to him in a new and different way, I liked your explanation that Clark was in danger of marrying Lana -- the woman who could live with his alien heritage but not with his wanting to express it. Clark's becoming Superman scared Lana off and killed that relationship, not Lois' presence. Lana would no doubt think that she could compete with another woman but not with Superman -- with Clark finding himself. 2) As I said, I really liked the way you handled Lois' story -- from what happened to her in the Congo to how she made her way back to civilization -- a step by step process which took her around the globe, slowly and carefully reintroducing herself. A couple of minor questions though: A) Regarding the smuggling plot, you say near the beginning of your story that >a leading Metropolis businessman was ... supplying the criminal >underworld with arms smuggled from an African state. I'm too lazy to try and track this down, but is this actually the story Lois was on? Was Lex (we assume it's Lex, anyway) smuggling arms from Africa to supply criminals in the U.S.? For some reason, I always thought he was involved in the arms merchant business -- period -- supplying arms to guerillas *in* Africa. That seems so much more likely than that arms would be coming in to the U.S. from the Congo. I mean, arms can come from anywhere, of course, but I just thought he was making money off of a "revolution." Just curious. B) At one point, you have Lois referencing the X-Files, but than you have her totally clueless about the existence of Superman. I find it hard to believe that she would never have seen anything about him. Some of the remotest villages have television and they certainly have radios. Superman would have gotten a lot of press of all sorts -- including word-of-mouth. Maybe you have her hearing about him while she was in the Congo and I can't remember it??? (I'm not working off a fresh memory, here -- in more ways than one.) 3) In the beginning of your story I really wondered about Lois' family. At one point you say that Perry, via the Planet, did all he could to try and track her down. Surely her parents would have done something too. I also thought you might have included a little something about their reunion with Lois -- actually show it rather than just tell us about it. I know you have quite a large story here so you couldn't show everything. But, I could see her mother as a useful mechanism for planting initial doubts in Lois about Superman and then rebelling against that -- as always. Onto other things: 4) Clark saves Lois (and himself) when Luthor tries to blow them up by grabbing her, smashing through the skylight, and flying upward. However, he doesn't change into Superman, right? I kept thinking ... isn't he afraid Luthor will see him? Luthor had left, but couldn't he have stopped along the way and trained binoculars on the building? 5) Clark asks Lois to erase the part of the tape where she says, "You're Superman, aren't you?" and he admits it. Wouldn't the police figure out that the tape's been tampered with? I assume they could and that would make the evidence collected on Lex inadmissable in court. (I expected this to happen, saving Lex's bacon.) 6) Wells says at the end: >And now, I will leave you two young love-birds together. I won't >give you my best wishes for a long and happy life together, since >I already know your futures. Hmm. That's great to know, but that could make a person kind of careless with their "long and happy life" -- especially, Ms. Dive-in-the-pool-without-checking-the-water-level, Lane. As you can see, most of the questions I had while reading your story weren't major at all, and I was thoroughly pulled into the world you created. I enjoyed having Lois initially suspicious of Superman. It seemed to make more sense than having her immediately smitten. I did stumble a bit over some "Britishisms" (for lack of a better term) which cropped up here and there. Your reference to being in hospital -- not using "the" before hospital. The use of "fire officers" rather than "fire fighters" or "firemen." Saying that Leeson came from nowhere "to stand as a candidate," rather than "to run for office." Police officers taking the witnesses' "details" rather than their "statements." There might have been one or two others. But then, you taught me a word I never knew and considering what the word is I'm terribly embarrassed. >Jimmy, if you have a moment, could you dig up some stuff for me? >You might find some stuff on the Net -- psephologists' reports and >analyses of the last mayoral election.... Well, I was just as clueless as Jimmy and had to look the word up -- psephology: the statistical evaluation of election returns or of political polls. You could have knocked me over with a feather. In all my years studying political science and in my work following the political process, I hadn't heard this word. I went into my boss -- someone who worked on Capitol Hill for years and helped to run Vice-President Gore's senatorial campaign in Tennessee -- and asked him about it and he was stumped too. Love it! Thanks! Stumping Jim really made my day. By the way, since your story is in the archive already, do you want to hear anything about typos? I found a few -- not many -- and I'd be happy to send them to you privately if you want to update your story. (For instance, "no one" is not hyphenated -- I think.) Well, you certainly did a great job. Phew! I don't know how you got this done while writing all the other good stories you do. I'm amazed. Just typing this message has put me out to pasture for the evening. Your energy and talent astounds me. Sandy -- next up, Charlotte's story. smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:10:25 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kristin Olsen-Molnar Subject: Re: OUATIM compilation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am interested. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:12:29 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kristin Olsen-Molnar Subject: Re: OUATIM: Jonathon and Martha to Lois and Clark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit That is great! We are so excited! We can hardly wait to see you to share a celebration of the good news with you! Mom and Dad ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:28:38 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Cruise Comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sandy, Are you having problems with your site? or am I having problems with aol? I have tried several times today to access your site and keep getting a message that the site cannot be found. Please help. Thanks, Ann ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 19:47:17 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: Cruise Comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Ann E. McBride" wrote: > > Sandy, > > Are you having problems with your site? or am I having problems with aol? I > have tried several times today to access your site and keep getting a message > that the site cannot be found. Please help. > > Thanks, > > Ann Sorry about that. You need to capitalize the "Sandy" part of the address: http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ Sandy -- who still doesn't know how to make a "sig thing" so that she doesn't have to keep typing that stupid address. smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 20:26:28 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Cruise Comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Sandy, That was quick. Thanks for the info. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:05:11 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Universal Union Part 3 -- Comments & Spoilers (no spoilers here) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/02/1999 11:03:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, smcdermin@EROLS.COM writes: << (Hmm. This probably occurred to all of you a whole heck of a lot earlier, but Mayson Drake's name is a combo of the TV characters, Perry Mason and Paul Drake. Boy. "Duh" to me.) >> Well, no, it never crossed my mind. I'll never look at her the same way again, now. Thanks, Sandy. ;) --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:27:18 CDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jessi Mounts Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Irene said: >The nfic list is for the over 18 crowd. (Nfic stands >for 'naughty' fiction.) I would like to refer you to >the Nfic directory at: > Now just a minute. Isn't that 18 and over? Jessi (who does *not* want to discover she has to wait a year longer to read nfic than she thought! ) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:33:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Nfic In-Reply-To: <19991003022718.18545.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 9:27 PM -0500 10/2/99, Jessi Mounts wrote: >Irene said: >>The nfic list is for the over 18 crowd. (Nfic stands >>for 'naughty' fiction.) I would like to refer you to >>the Nfic directory at: >> > >Now just a minute. Isn't that 18 and over? Just read it as "past your 18th birthday" ;) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:09:30 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) In-Reply-To: <19991001185259.20402.rocketmail@web904.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:52 AM 10/01/1999 -0700, you wrote: >Judith, > >The nfic list is for the over 18 crowd. (Nfic stands >for 'naughty' fiction.) I would like to refer you to >the Nfic directory at: > >www.geocities.com/Area51/Meteor/7378/nfic.html > >which will give you info as to how to subscribe to the >list, or how to get a password to the different sites. > >Irene >nKerth co-coordinator Please recall that Joyce and I run a *list* and no password is needed, just fullfilling the other requirements. I get "I wanna join" messages lately aksing for the password and I have to write back telling them it's a list, not a site, do they still want to join? I feel I must clarify this as some people (like me, sometimes) get enough email and don't want to join another list if they can help it. Debby Debby@swcp.com trying desperately to catch up... ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 00:55:22 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Tan: Dave Barry & Karen V [was Re: Fanfics in progress] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maggie wrote, << She has a website called the Diva Factor, home of the walking opinion, and columns like "The Divine of Mindy Church" (one of my favorites) that just crack me up. >> Maggie, I must agree with you here! Even the selection you chose to copy and paste cracked me up! Karen's got true talent and she always makes me laugh:) Mols ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:02:56 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Bain Subject: OT: Beauty and the Beast In-Reply-To: <199909210114.VAA12861@mail1.mia.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" When my crossover story "Timeless" was posted to the fanfic archive, I got a lot of very nice feedback , and several people said things to the effect that they'd never watched "Beauty and the Beast", but that after reading the story, they wished they had. I had to reply that B&B was not airing anywhere that I knew of. Well, that's about to change. For anyone still interested, I'm told that the Odyssey channel will begin airing B&B tomorrow, Sunday Oct. 3, at 8:00 pm Eastern Time. For more information, you can visit Odyssey's website at: I now return you to your regularly scheduled topic. Becky rbain@uswest.net "The difference between the right word and the nearly right word is the same as that between lightning and the lightning bug." - Mark Twain ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 22:13:39 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: OT: Beauty and the Beast In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991002230256.007ff210@mail.clsp.uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This show is also airing on Canada's Space: the Imagination Station, if you get it. I'm not sure of what the schedule is, but you can find it online at http://www.spacecast.com/ which is their official website... Melisma -------------------------------------- At 11:02 PM 10/2/99 -0600, you wrote: >When my crossover story "Timeless" was posted to the fanfic archive, I got >a lot of very nice feedback , and several people said things to the >effect that they'd never watched "Beauty and the Beast", but that after >reading the story, they wished they had. I had to reply that B&B was not >airing anywhere that I knew of. > >Well, that's about to change. For anyone still interested, I'm told that >the Odyssey channel will begin airing B&B tomorrow, Sunday Oct. 3, at 8:00 >pm Eastern Time. > >For more information, you can visit Odyssey's website at: > > >I now return you to your regularly scheduled topic. > >Becky > >rbain@uswest.net > >"The difference between the right word and the nearly right word is the >same as that between lightning and the lightning bug." - Mark Twain > > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 01:16:51 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: OT: Beauty and the Beast MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I never watched B&B regularly, but my sister was/is a big fan, and so I sent her to the archive for your story and she really loved it, so I thought I'd pass her compliments along ;) Zoom ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:28:12 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Bain Subject: Re: OT: Beauty and the Beast In-Reply-To: <4d8b939d.252840c3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks, Zoom! I appreciate hearing it. Tell your sister thanks, too, please. Becky rbain@uswest.net "The difference between the right word and the nearly right word is the same as that between lightning and the lightning bug." - Mark Twain ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 15:31:35 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: jem Subject: Re: OUATIM compilation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, please !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Maryann James To: Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 1:28 PM Subject: OUATIM compilation > hello folcs.. > > i've been a lurker on this board for a while now, i'm finally coming out of > the closet. :) > > i have been following OUATIM since it started, and i have been trying to > put *all* of the posts together. i *think* i have been sucessful, i need to > clean up a couple of things, and then it will be ready > for "distribution". :) > > anyone interested? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 02:17:55 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: "Revealing Cruise" Comments and Spoilers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SPOILER SPACE Hi Charlotte: I think your story set-up is fine and puts L&C in another one of those "interesting situations" we all love. However, I think a bit more flesh could be added -- and I'm not talking skin here. What I mean is, I would have liked to have seen L&C do a little more work on that case while they were on the ship. Give us a feeling that something was actually happening next door, and that they were at some sort of risk. It really seemed like L&C were there just to sleep with each other at the expense of Interpol. Also, I think I'd have built up the tension between the two of them more. Things did seem to happen rather quickly -- especially considering all the nervousness and doubts and concerns you laid out for your characters just prior to that. Perhaps have the "action" take place on the second night? > Summary > Lois and Clark investigate an international drug cartel. > During the cruise, they each learn some starting > facts about themselves and their partner. I don't know if you're going to keep the summary, Charlotte, but if you do --> startling. > Clark had taken her back to her apartment Sunday evening > after they finished writing up the cruise story for the they had finished > Fortunately after more than a year of excellent journalism > by her coworker, no one including Perry questioned her > partner's whereabouts any longer. **Clark may not know it > but they consider him one of the best reporters on the > Daily Planet's staff, after me of course, ** Lois thought > smugly. The newspaper's readership eagerly looked for > Clark Kent's by-line, and that after all was the bottom > line. > > SSSSSSSSSS For a moment, I thought there was a snake in the room. Very clever symbol for a scene divider. > "Simple," responded the Metropolis agent, "a number of > clandestine, late-night meetings are scheduled to take > place on a cruise ship departing on Saturday from > Metropolis and returning the following Friday. We need to > know what's said at those meetings. The cabin, next to the > one where our sources tell us the meetings are to take > place, will contain surveillance equipment, and we have to > have people we can trust in that cabin as well, experienced > people. If the cartel gets wind that the cabin is > inhabited with Interpol's people, they'll become > suspicious, call the whole thing off, and the operation > will fail." *I* suspect if the cartel got wind that the cabin next door is inhabited with Interpol's people, they'd be more than suspicious. Hmm. Why can't Interpol just send in investigators not attached to their organization -- local detectives for instance? I doubt the police would go to civilians for this kind of help -- especially "blabby" reporters -- but then again, there wouldn't be a story, would there? Unless, of course, you have L&C getting wind of an Interpol sting operation and, as a result, trying to get a cabin on the opposite side to get the goods on the sting *and* the cartel. There could be some interesting mix-ups between the two couples with everyone watching and bugging everyone else. I could just see people accidentally going into the wrong cabin, getting into bed with the wrong people.... Uh, this is beginning to sound like a Peter Sellers spy/caper movie. Sorry.... > Lois took his arm and pulled him along with her. "Come on > Clark. Let's get settled, then we can go for a swim before > dinner. Might as well enjoy ourselves while we can. So, > where's our cabin?" Uh ... she doesn't say, "Come on, Clark" in front of anyone, does she? > "Tourist class?" Lois asked becoming suspicious. "What > about verisimilitude? Karl and Lucy Jensen are supposed to > be rich." Somebody loves this word. I can't even pronounce it, but my vocabulary has definitely been expanding between you and Wendy. > If only one > of can verify the meeting tapes, their lawyers will have > the evidence thrown out of court. If only one of us can > "You're right in part, Lois. I have had girlfriends; I > have dated, but the intimacy threshold, the big > threshold...." I think I'd use a few more contractions here --> I've had. > Lois just stared at him, not knowing how to respond to this > startling revelation. Yeah, that's it -- starting.;) I don't really have an opinion regarding the PG-13 nature of the story, but I'm not running an archive either. I'm fine with what you wrote. I hope my thoughts were helpful. (Please disregard any or all.) Looking forward to seeing how Lois takes the big news, Sandy smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 02:23:57 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/1999 10:27:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jessi914@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << Jessi (who does *not* want to discover she has to wait a year longer to read nfic than she thought! ) >> Jessi, as soon as I turned 18, i rushed out to sign up for all of the nfic passwords, but now after about a year and a half of reading nfic, I have discovered that I really don't enjoy it as much as their pg-13 counterparts. There are only a select few nfics that I really enjoy, and I tend to like their pg-13 counter parts better. I would rather read a good plot line than read a graphic description of how they make love to eachother. I admit, it was interesting at first, but most of it seems the same to me now. If i read one, i have read them all. and from reading the others, I can usually imagine what they might be doing. However, I do consider a lot of nfics as some of my favorite fics, (Sheila Harper's A shot in the dark, Kathy Brown's Camping with Clark, and Winners) but I enjoy a lot of other fics better as regular fanfic, they are just more appealing to me(Labrat's and Wendy Richards' stories who's names are excaping me right now, at 230 in the morning.) nothing against them as nfic writers, they are wonderful, but I think it is just personal preference. But, for example, there are a couple of popular nfic writers (I wont mention them because I dont want to be mean) that just seem to write the same scene over and over and over to eternity, and I just get kind of sick of reading it. I would rather read a story with a new plot line or some area that has never been approached before. Alicia (who hopes she is making some kind of sense here) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 02:31:14 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Re: "Revealing Cruise" Comments and Spoilers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/3/1999 2:19:57 AM Eastern Daylight Time, smcdermin@EROLS.COM writes: << verisimilitude? Karl and Lucy Jensen are supposed to > be rich." Somebody loves this word. I can't even pronounce it, but my vocabulary has definitely been expanding between you and Wendy. >> LOL, i learned this word in my Ars Seminar class two years ago and I've been using in ever since... makes people think i am smart :-). Charlotte, I think your story has a very promising beginning. I am anxioulsy looking foreward to the next part :-). And I thought the pg-13ness of is was fine, but, as Sandy said, I am not running an archive here. And, since I don't have any kids of my own, I would not really know what I would want my kids to watch or not watch. Alicia :-) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 06:09:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Universal Union Part 3 -- Comments & Spoilers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Thank you Sandy for being so complimentary about Universal Union. I'm gl= ad you enjoyed it and I appreciate the few minor things you pointed out. It= 's amazing how you always seem to miss something no matter how many checks y= ou do. These will be corrected before I send the story to the Archive. = Sandy wrote: >>I must tell you, I'm enjoying your story about Krypton very much. I'm envious that you managed to create a whole new world so well, interjecting the most unexpected things -- for instance, unicorns! I tried to do the same in my own Krypton story but I kept being held back by my very prosaic mind.<< I read your Krypton story and have to admit that it encouraged me to retu= rn to a story that I had started but abandoned because I didn't think it wa= s 'Lois & CLark'. Then Wendy Richards encouraged me to continue and so Universal Union came about. >>Schie-Hellion. What an interesting name. How did you come up with it?= Does it mean something?<< Schiehallion and Rohallion are two mountains a few miles from where I liv= e in Scotland. Rohallion is the smaller sister, but Schiehallion is a tall= peaked mountain which can be seen from many miles away. They're ancient= gaelic names and roughly translated Schiehallion means 'mystic or fairy mountain'. I've been intrigued by the name Schiehallion since I was smal= l and when I needed two names for my story it seemed the natural choice to change the names slightly to Ro-Ellion and Schie-Hellion. = >>>"Won't you join me Rol- Fre? Is this a play on Rolf from "Top Copy?" He was a real reprobate too, but I loved him.<<< Actually he is a play on a character from the show. But when I wrote him = I imagined Ralph the reporter who considers himself a lady killer and man about town but is really successful at neither. = >>If Rol-Fre was disowned, does that mean disinherited? If so, he obviously wouldn't get the lands, the property, the money, etc. and Rad-Nor would have no way of getting them either<< = Although the Fre's want nothing to do with their son at present there is always the chance of a future reconciliation. And, though Rol-Fre committed a terrible indiscretion, he did not break the law and therefore= is still eligible to succeed. = Jenni ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 08:11:15 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/03/1999 2:25:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Alicia3456@AOL.COM writes: << But, for example, there are a couple of popular nfic writers (I wont mention them because I dont want to be mean) that just seem to write the same scene over and over and over to eternity, and I just get kind of sick of reading it. I would rather read a story with a new plot line or some area that has never been approached before. Alicia (who hopes she is making some kind of sense here) >> A lot of sense, Alicia. :) --Laurie (who also likes a story in her story) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:18:43 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: PJ Piasecki Subject: Re: PG-13 etc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/99 12:57:31 PM Central Daylight Time, deimos1@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << The funny thing about this whole subject is, I'd like to cover my *older* kids' eyes at some of the things they see in rented movies, (although I suspect even my twelve year old twins have also seen a lot more than I'd like) and then I see them getting embarrassed because *I'm* seeing the same scenes. >> This reminds me of when I was in college. My roommate's boyfriend came to see her and they stopped by the room for her to change to go out. I sat on my bed, he sat on the desk chair, and she just stood there, looking at both of us. Finally, she said. "One of you has to leave. I can be naked in front of PJ or I can be naked in front of Elliott, but not both of you at the same time!" Piper ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:25:42 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: PG-13 etc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Piper wrote: "One of you has to leave. I can be naked in front of PJ or I can be naked in front of Elliott, but not both of you at the same time!" LOL!! That just about says it all, huh guys? JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:13:57 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: Comments on the Congo (and Spoilers) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sandy McDermin wrote: > > Wendy: > > I'm pretty sure I'm not going to be doing your story justice since it's > quite a large one with a lot of delicious details. I apologize most > sincerely in advance. > > SPOILERS BELOW > > Anyway ... I loved the way you began this story -- with Lois as the > world-weary traveler wanting to make a place for herself in Metropolis > and Clark as the established DP journalist. I especially liked how you > dealt with what happened to Lois in the interim and why she stayed away. [SNIP] > 2) As I said, I really liked the way you handled Lois' story -- from > what happened to her in the Congo to how she made her way back to > civilization -- a step by step process which took her around the globe, > slowly and carefully reintroducing herself. You know, I think I'm going to have to apologize here. I'm not sure that you did exactly what I said above, Wendy. I think I may have been confusing your story with Carol's newest effort. This doesn't take away from my feelings for your story in the least, but I want to be fair to Carol.... I think *she* is the one that had Lois trying to globetrot away her troubles after coming out of the Congo. Jeez! Okay. Well ... I liked what you both did. (This is what I get for reading two stories with similar premises and trying to intellegently comment on both of them back to back. Please someone else -- jump in!) Sandy smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:40:47 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: PG-13 etc. In-Reply-To: <51c33d61.2528bfc3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:18 AM -0400 10/3/99, PJ Piasecki wrote: >This reminds me of when I was in college. My roommate's boyfriend came to >see her and they stopped by the room for her to change to go out. I sat on >my bed, he sat on the desk chair, and she just stood there, looking at both >of us. Finally, she said. "One of you has to leave. I can be naked in >front of PJ or I can be naked in front of Elliott, but not both of you at the >same time!" Piper, I about fell off my chair when I read this. My college roommate and I had the *exact* same conversation. ROTFL!!! We used to joke about this all the time, "you can change in front of your roommate or your boyfriend, but not both at the same time!" I have to forward this email to her! She's going to love it. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:09:03 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: PG-13 etc. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathy wrote: <> Small world. I guess it shows that many college experiences are alike. Anyone up for a L&C fanfic set during their University days? __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:32:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: Comments on the Congo (and Spoilers) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sandy McDermin wrote: (This is what I get for reading two stories with similar premises and trying to intellegently comment on both of them back to back. Please someone else -- jump in!) Okay, I'll jump. I too, remember a globe trotting Lois story, but can't remember where I read it. I did enjoy both stories as well. I especially liked the part in "Congo" where Lois tells herself that she wants "Clark", not "Superman". So Wendy, I guess a series is in order. You can treat "Congo" as the pilot. __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:37:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: Comments on the Congo (and Spoilers) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops. I hit send too soon. Wendy, your story was great. You tied up all the loose ends and everything. I think I like this alt universe, and I'd like to see more of it. JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 11:45:39 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >just seem to write the same scene over and over >and over to eternity, and I just >get kind of sick of reading it. I would rather read >a story with a new plot line or some area that >has never been approached before. Alicia, I have the same problem as a writer. Back when we used to have weekly nfic round robin sessions, I finally had to quit writing on them because, frankly, I was running out of things to say. They all started to sound alike to me, and it was becoming more of a hassle to write than a pleasure. So, while I haven't given up nfic, I'm much more selective about which ideas I'll spend time and energy on. Sheila (factoid: during a year when my L&C output reached an all-time high (May 1998-May 1999), my only nfic output was a love scene for my non-L&C novel) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 10:54:40 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: nfic, html, etc MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PIPER, your story is hilarious. Thanks for sharing. SANDY, Thanks for the tip on the html. It was. indeed, turned on and has now been turned off. Your friend Judith sounds delightful. In my life I've only met one or two other "Judiths". never had one for a friend. Apparently not a popular name at my time and place. ANYONE, Apologies for e-mail problems. If there are any others (besides those attached to the writer's lucidity), please let me know. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:11:00 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/03/1999 1:38:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes: << Sheila (factoid: during a year when my L&C output reached an all-time high (May 1998-May 1999), my only nfic output was a love scene for my non-L&C novel) >> So, Sheila, when will we see nfic versions of your S6 eps? --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 18:27:33 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Perry to Jimmy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jimmy, I need some encryption software. Now. Perry PS How in the King's name do you get this laptop to shut up? Alice caught me out last night working late only because the darned thing made a noise like a demented woodpecker when I turned it on. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:18:17 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Perry to Clark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clark, I'm waiting for Jimmy to bring me over some encryption software so I can't say much. I hate to sound like a drowning man clutching at straws here, but the Superman interview could be just what we need to boost circulation. I just hope he can find the time in between his work for the UN and mopping up the mess in Japan. You do the interview, and if it's appropriate, I'll write a piece alongside it for the Editor's page. Thanks for the news about the truck drivers. Things are much better now. The chief exec of NTM is a guy named Donald MacDonald. I don't know much about him, except that he was at the same school as me - a few years behind - and he was the brunt of a lot of jokes because of his name. His parents sure didn't do him any favours when they christened him! Very, very sorry to hear about our junior reporter. No-one deserves a thing like that. On the other thing - you're lucky I got this message in time! Alice was already out buying the booties. BTW, if Lois thinks she's gonna get any special treatment - dog shows and the like - tell her to forget it. Unless she calls in sick, I expect her to pull her weight the same as usual. I think you know where I'm comin' from here, son. Perry ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 16:13:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Maggie Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > In a message dated 10/03/1999 1:38:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes: > > << Sheila > (factoid: during a year when my L&C output reached an all-time high (May > 1998-May 1999), my only nfic output was a love scene for my non-L&C novel) >> > > So, Sheila, when will we see nfic versions of your S6 eps? > > --Laurie and your NOVEL?!!?!?! :o) Maggie having visions of Sheila Harper at the mall, in the supermarket, at airport newsstands, and ideally with Chris Mulder on the Oprah special, Fan Fiction Authors who crossed over to the Best Seller List ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:52:58 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Tedras Subject: Request: Universal Union MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0039_01BF0DF2.09CC64A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01BF0DF2.09CC64A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everybody is anyone so gentle to tell me where I can find the beginning of this = story? 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  Hi everybodyis anyone so gentle to tell me where I can find the beginning of this story?I have only the 2nd and now the 3rd part of it .....ThanksTedras
Blue Dragon
  Go to http://listserv.indiana.edu/loiscla-general-l.html
Click on June 1999 Week 2

You'll find it there.

Nan Smith --------------CA50D0CA01608F3C6BEF5BD5-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:53:38 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "C.C. Malo" Subject: OUATIM: Cat to Lois MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lois, missed you at the club the last few days. Working out on the treadmill without you to gossip with is just not the same. So... how are you feeling??? Clark's been writing some powerful articles on those earthquakes. But it must be nice to have him home. Oh, and I think Dan Scardino is tailing Harry Dow. I'm sure that was him lurking behind the newspaper as Harry walked out of the club yesterday afternoon. Cat ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:54:34 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "C.C. Malo" Subject: OUATIM: Cat to Jimmy [encrypted] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jimmy, Are you *sure* those transfers from Merridian to Jeffers, Carlton, & Dow were $20,000,000 each? Could it have been $2,000,000 instead? Just got back from the Film Festival --spent some time with a guy whose going to direct "this great new indie" which Jeffers is producing. According to my guy, Jeffers just got $2,000,000 unexpectedly. Nice. Could Merridian be a dummy corp. for New Troy Media? btw, saw you across the room with one of the new actresses from that Atom Eygoyan film. She looked interested, you looked lost. :) Anything you want to tell me, Jimmy? Cat ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 14:52:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Request: Universal Union MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------E5D5A54797A77A20E4862966" --------------E5D5A54797A77A20E4862966 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry. I left out part of the address. Try http://listserv.indiana.edu/archives/loiscla-general-l.html Click on Week 2. Nan Nancy Smith wrote: > > > Tedras wrote: > >> Hi everybodyis anyone so gentle to tell me where I can find the >> beginning of this story?I have only the 2nd and now the 3rd part of >> it .....ThanksTedras >> Blue Dragon > > Go to http://listserv.indiana.edu/loiscla-general-l.html > Click on June 1999 Week 2 > > You'll find it there. > > Nan Smith --------------E5D5A54797A77A20E4862966 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry.  I left out part of the address.  Try http://listserv.indiana.edu/archives/loiscla-general-l.html
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Nan

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  Hi everybodyis anyone so gentle to tell me where I can find the beginning of this story?I have only the 2nd and now the 3rd part of it .....ThanksTedras
Blue Dragon
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  --------------E5D5A54797A77A20E4862966-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:56:31 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "C.C. Malo" Subject: OUATIM: Cat to Perry cc Lois, Clark [encrypted] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chief, It's nearly five o'clock in the morning and I haven't slept in days. It's been wonderful! This year's film festival has been the best! Attached is an exclusive interview I just happened to get with Robert De Nero. Would you believe he's thinking about running for President? Talked to a lot of people while I was there, including Jeffers. He'd had a little too much to drink and so had a little too much to say. Mineral water, Perry. Why don't people clue in? Anyway, Jeffers got $2 million recently from NTM -- he credits it all to the contacts he made at the Metro Sailing Club. Apparently he was chatting with Mr. Carlton, and Don MacDonald, chief CEO of NTM. One of those "if I had a million" chats. He told them about his desire to produce the next big indie and, not long after, the money was his. He offered to read me the script. btw, Harry Dow was there during their chat, too -- a "babe" according to Jeffers. Jeffers also told me about his affair with Roxanne. He had moved down to the morose level of drunk by this time. Said something about losing something important at the Planet the day of the bombing but before I could find out anything more his wife collected him and they left. Gotta go ... meeting a good friend to watch the sunrise over Metropolis. Don't think I've seen a sunrise before. Cat ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:39:49 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: NEW: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME Part 4 of 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TITLE: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME PART: 4/5 AUTHOR: An IRC Round Robin RATING: PG-13 FEEDBACK: All comments public and private are welcome, but please no public editing. SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Clark faces a super-dilemma when Lois, Dr. Klein and Dr. Friskin are taken hostage at Star Labs and Superman *cannot* come to their rescue. _________________________ [Misha] Perry growled and was about to turn on her when Alice slid her hand into his and laced her fingers with his. "Ellen, I think you're failing to take into account Lois' penchant for getting into trouble. Didn't you tell me once that she'd first been taken hostage in grade school?" Alice said in a calm, low voice. Ellen stamped her foot and glared at the woman who . "That still counts. She was on the yearbook staff, and the bomber held them in the darkroom for two hours!" Alice laughed. "And didn't she get the interview and the position on the school paper her freshman year in high school?" She shook her head. "Lois always gets into trouble, but she always ends up on top. Always." "Exactly- it's part and parcel of journalism - you're a reporter, you get nabbed by the psycho of the week!" Alice's calm voice cut through her tirade. "I hardly think that the, ah, psycho of the week checks people's references. I'm not a journalist." She nodded to Jonathan and Martha. "Neither are they. We've all been held hostage or kidnapped for one reason or another." She cocked her head to the side. "I think you're jealous." "Jealous!" Ellen sputtered. "Why ... I ... Jeal -- What?" Jonathan settled back against a table behind his wife as she spoke up. "Jealous of being held hostage?" Alice shook her head. "Not the psycho bit. Her freedom. She's got it all, and she's happy, even with all the crazies running around." "I am *not* jealous of my daughter!" Alice leaned forward. "I think you are, Ellen. As long as I've known you, you've been living vicariously through Lois, and as long as she's never had more than you, you've been happy, because then you couldn't look too critically at your own life. But now she's got it all -- a job she loves, a husband she loves, and now the two kids. She's in heaven, and you're jealous. She has everything she - and you - ever wanted and that you never really had. "Ellen, you don't have to be jealous. Lois is from a different generation. She's had opportunities, doors open that we never even dreamed of." Alice pressed Perry's hand to her cheek. "When I met Perry, I had the choice of a career or a family. I chose my family and never looked back. You had the same choice, and now you resent Lois because she doesn't have to make it." Ellen shook, her fists clenched. "I do *not* resent my daughter. I had a career *and* a family!" Martha sighed and shared a glance with Alice. "But you weren't happy, were you?" * * * "Phillip, killing Superman won't make you happy." Ruth kept her hands at her sides and concentrated on making her voice as soothing as possible. Musgrove turned back to her, his voice as small as a child's. "But I don't want to kill him. I don't want to kill anyone, Ruth. I just want to keep him away from me!" He picked up a heavy instrument from the bench and caressed it. "I'll get the kryptonite and Superman will have to stay far, far away from me, and I'll never have to see him again and I can go on with my life." He turned back to Ruth, shoving the business end of a cross between a drill and microwave beneath her chin. "I really don't want to hurt anyone. If they'll all just back off, than I can get my kryptonite and go home. If they..." He swallowed and blinked, suddenly realizing what he had in his hand. "If they don't leave me alone, I really don't want to die at his hands." He gestured wildly with the drill thing. "Or eyes or heat vision or whatever perverted thing he thinks of to kill me." [zoomway] "We're out of time," Klein whispered as Musgrove ranted. "He's completely tuned out." Clark squeezed Lois' hand. "What do we do?" Klein swallowed. "I think you know, Clark." Clark closed his eyes and nodded. "Make sure Lois is protected." Musgrove stopped his raving. "What are you plotting?" he asked, and swung Friskin around to face them. Klein rose slowly. "Just that the time lock should be accessible now. I can get you the kryptonite." Musgrove visibly relaxed. He released Friskin. "That's more like it. Open the vault." "One condition," Klein said. "If you won't release Ms. Lane, then at least let me put a lead apron on her. Kryptonite is only known to harm Superman, but radiation of any kind can be toxic to the unborn." Everyone held their breath as Musgrove debated the logic with what little sanity he had left. "Okay, it's a deal, but *no* tricks." "No tricks," Klein assured him as he walked to the back shelf. He unfolded the apron and knelt next to Lois. "I'm sorry, Clark," he whispered as he spread the apron over Lois. "I'll be okay assuming he gets out quick when he has the kryptonite." "Clark..." Lois started to protest. Clark covered her lips with his fingertips. "I'll be okay." Klein walked to the vault and began spinning the combination. "Ow!" Lois wailed. All eyes turned to her. "I ... don't think ... the babies will wait!" [sharper] Clark slid his hand under the lead apron, feeling for Lois' abdomen. The muscles were tight and rigid. His eyes widened. "Honey?" Dr. Klein abandoned the combination dial and started toward her. Musgrove spun back to face him. "Huh-uh, Doc. Get the safe open." The scientist straightened, stiff and dignified. "Her babies are more important than your obsession," he announced. Phillip Musgrove watched in astonishment as his hostage ignored him and walked over to the woman lying on the floor. It occurred to him that Klein wouldn't pay attention even if he put his thumb back on the detonator. A sense of helplessness overwhelmed him, and he turned to the one person he could count on to listen. "Dr. Friskin?" "I can't open the safe, Phillip--or help Lois with her babies," she added. "But you--you have to make him listen to me," he pleaded. [Eraygun] "I'm only doing what you suggested, Dr. Ruth." "What?! Phillip what on earth are you talking about?" "You told me I shouldn't be a victim, that I should start taking charge of my life!" Dr. Friskin grimaced. "Phillip, this wasn't exactly what I had in mind when I suggested that." "But- but, you're my doctor you've got to help me. You've got to make them understand!" As Musgrove continued to complain, Ruth glanced in the direction of Lois and the others. Lois turned her head slightly and gave Ruth a quick wink. Reassured that Lois was all right, Ruth quickly turned back to Musgrove. "I can't *make* them listen to you, Phillip. But perhaps, if you were to explain to them why this is so important to you, they would stop and help you," she said soothingly. "You really think so?" Ruth nodded. "I think it's just what we need. Now what seems to be your problem with Superman?" "I told you, he's after me!" "Yeah, sure, we've heard that before," Lois mumbled in a voice only Clark could hear. "Cut to the chase already." "Can you be a little more specific, Phillip?" "Well, it's because of him I can't keep a job here in Metropolis." "Excuse me?" Musgrove rolled his eyes. "I told you this before, Dr. Ruth. I was employed at LexLabs, remember?" "Yes." "And you know what happened there?" "Yes. It went into receivership and closed, like the rest of Lex Luthor's holdings, when Superman put him in prison. But that was because of Luthor. That had nothing to do with you-" "That's what the papers would like you to believe! But I know different!" Musgrove grew more agitated and his thumb moved back to the detonator. "Just calm down, Phillip. I'm listening to you and I'm sure the others are too. Isn't that right?" "Huh? Oh. Yes. Please continue, I'm absolutely spellbound," Dr. Klein replied sarcastically. [chrispat] Musgrove took his thumb off the detonator again and continued in a shaky voice. "I was unemployed for weeks and used up most of my savings. Then I got a job at CostMart working for Bill Church. We all know what happened to that job. Superman put him in jail and I was back on unemployment." He took a deep breath. "And it didn't end there. My car had been repossessed and I was taking the bus to the unemployment office when that bridge collapsed. Superman saved the bus from going into the river, but I broke my leg and my medical insurance had run out. There went the rest of my savings." Lois looked at Clark, who had been listening silently to the tale of woe. She reached out and took his hand. "Honey, don't look so sad. It's not your fault," she whispered. Musgrove's thumb went back to the detonator. "Shut up! I'm not finished!" Lois rolled her eyes. "Okay, okay." Satisfied, Musgrove took his thumb off the detonator again. "Finally, after months of therapy, I was able to get work as a researcher for Morgan Edge at Newstime. Superman again!! Now I'm afraid to get another job until I know Superman won't be coming anywhere near me. The kryptonite should take care of that." He motioned to Klein. "Get it now!" [Melisma] Clark thought frantically for a way to help this poor man. While it was true that Superman's actions in apprehending various criminals in Metropolis had inadvertently hurt Musgrove, Superman might also be able to *help* him. "Phillip," he said finally, grasping for anything he could say that might calm the man down, "you've had your share of bad luck. ... But what if you were able to get a job someplace where you know that Superman isn't going to affect you?" "Not possible," Musgrove said hopelessly. "I think it's very possible, Phillip. You said you'd worked at Newstime as a researcher, right?" "Uh-huh." "Well, if you could let me call my editor at the Daily Planet ..." Clark mentally asked Perry for forgiveness, "I think I heard him say that we might be needing a new researcher there. And if I put a good word in for you, maybe you could have a shot there." Musgrove looked a little dubious. "But the Daily Planet... Superman hangs out there. Wouldn't he..." Continued in part 5/5 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:39:53 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: NEW: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME Part 5 of 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TITLE: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME PART: 5/5 AUTHOR: An IRC Round Robin RATING: PG-13 FEEDBACK: All comments public and private are welcome, but please no public editing. SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Clark faces a super-dilemma when Lois, Dr. Klein and Dr. Friskin are taken hostage at Star Labs and Superman *cannot* come to their rescue. _________________________ [sharper] "Wouldn't he...?" Clark repeated. "He could..." Musgrove caught his breath on something suspiciously like a sob. "Maybe he could hurt me *directly*!" "Phillip," Lois said from her position on the floor. "He isn't like that. He'd never--" She broke off, her throat tightening at the look on Clark's face. "What would it take to make you believe that you'd be safe from Superman?" he asked. Musgrove looked back over his shoulder at the safe, and Clark continued, "The kryptonite? No, Phillip. If Superman was trying to hurt you before by wrecking your life, kryptonite wouldn't have helped. He didn't need to get close to you for you to lose your jobs. Kryptonite wouldn't have helped," he repeated. Musgrove looked at the safe again, then down at the detonator in his hand. "You're right," he said softly. "I can't protect myself from him, can I?" He rubbed his thumb along the edge of the detonator. "All this was for nothing, wasn't it?" "Phillip," Ruth said almost sharply, "we're still here. It matters to us." He looked up, his eyes shimmering with tears. "I don't--" He shook his head. "You're right. The lady and her babies--" He looked down again, and a tear slid down his cheek. "Go on--you can leave. It doesn't matter any more." He gestured toward the door. "Go on. Go on." Clark didn't hesitate. He picked Lois up effortlessly and looked at Drs. Friskin and Klein. "C'mon," he said. Lois clutched his shoulder. "Honey," she whispered frantically. "He's going to kill himself when we're outside." "I know," Clark replied. "Can you walk?" [Misha] Lois clung to him for a moment, silent as Clark strode down the halls, followed by Drs. Klein and Friskin. Then, "Yes." Clark set her down gently outside the door to the reception area. "I love you, you know." "I know." Lois held his eyes for a moment, then smiled. She grabbed Ruth and Bernie's hands and tugged them outside. "C'mon, I got a story to write." Clark watched them push through the doors, then turned, tugging on his tie. He paused at the door to Dr. Klein's lab, his hand still on his tie. A muffled sob echoed dimly in the room ahead, and he sighed, dropping his hand. This was not a job for Superman. "Who's there?" Clark stepped through the doorway. "Just me, Phillip." The man drooped. "Go away. I told you everything. Leave me alone!" "I can't do that." "You've got your story, reporterman! Go back to your wife and your life and leave me to mine!" "To do what? Kill yourself? That won't solve your problems. Destroy someone's life work while you're at it?" Clark gestured to the empty lab. "And all for something I did?" Phillip stared at him, uncomprehending. "I came back to apologize." Clark spread his hands out. "You see ... Superman? He's just a figurehead, someone who can help out. Luthor? Church? Superman may have caught them in the end, but he wasn't responsible." Musgrove shook his head. "No, it was Superman. Superman destroyed them, destroyed their lives, my life! How could you do anything?" Clark simply shrugged. "Who do you think became suspicious of Luthor in the first place? Or Church, or even Edge? It's my job, Phillip. They were guilty of committing crimes, and I needed to bring that to light. Superman," Clark paused. "Superman doesn't work for the Daily Planet." "No! It was him!" Musgrove folded into a sitting position on the floor. "Wasn't it? I can't... not you, not the pregnant lady..." Clark watched him rock back and forth a few times. "Here, you need to figure out what happened." He offered him his hand and helped him stand again. "Think about it. Don't blame anyone, just... think." Musgrove nodded dumbly. "I'll make sure you have all the information, all the articles, and you can make up your own mind, okay?" Musgrove nodded and handed the detonator to Clark. "Okay." His assent was child-like again, and he let Clark maneuver him out the door to the waiting authorities. * * * Ellen paced, silent for a change, in the conference room. Her back was tight, her hands clenched. Martha and Alice sat close together, their eyes only leaving the pacing woman when Perry was called away for Jimmy's phone call. Ellen stopped dead, bowed her head, and turned toward the door. "Fifteen minutes ... not bad," Martha murmured. "They're not so far apart, Lois and her mother," Alice commented, then stopped as Perry leaned out of his office. "Ho-ho! Lois is out, and she and Clark have the exclusive!" he bellowed across the newsroom, waving the phone. He motioned to Alice and Martha, then disappeared again. The two women were joined by Ellen, and Jonathan materialized from his hiding place near the potato chips. They surged into Perry's office. "Jimmy, just hand the damned phone to Lois! Whaddya mean, she won't? Where's Clark? Hang that! Where's Superman in all this?" There was a pause. "*There* you are, honey!" Perry's tone softened perceptibly. "Now what in the name of Elvis is going on down there?" Alice slipped around him and hit the speakerphone button. Lois' voice, a tinny echo of her normal presence, filled the office. "Some wacko wanted kryptonite because he thought Superman was after him. Clark's still in there, talking to him." They heard a brief scuffle in the background, and Lois' indignant "Get that blanket away from me!" They jumped when the phone clattered and was then muffled by a dull thud. Faintly, they heard Jimmy complain, "He's just an EMT, Lois!" Finally, Jimmy's voice came clearly through the receiver. "Sorry 'bout that, Chief. Clark just came out. They're puttin' the guy in the truck now. Oh, here he is." "Jimmy!" Perry's bark was too late, as Clark's voice came over the line next. "Ah, Perry?" Martha stepped forward. "Clark? Are you all right?" "I'm fine, Mom." They heard his tired smile in his voice. "We're both fine. Listen, can we postpone the shower thing? I don't know if we can handle any more excitement..." "I can handle the excitement, Clark. Just keep the damn guests away from me!" Lois' acid comment was faint but clear. "We'll send home the guests, Clark. I'm sure they'll understand." Martha shared a smile with Perry and Alice across the desk. "You two come back here, though, y'hear?" Perry's voice was gruff through his smile. "Don't worry, Perry- we've got the story," Lois voice became clearer as she snatched the phone. "But I swear this is my last until the babies come. No more hostage situations until I can move faster than a waddle!" Alice's eyes darted up to meet Ellen's. The phone clicked, and Ellen blinked, then turned and left without a word. * * * Lois blinked sleepily at the ceiling. She was far too comfortable, her feet kicked up, her head pillowed against Clark's shoulder. Clark's arm was settled around her, his other hand busy typing up their notes on the day's events. She sighed. "Almost done," Clark replied to her unspoken question. "Then we can go home." Lois blinked and peered around the empty bullpen without moving any body part below the neck. "Where ...?" Clark hit the last few keys with a flourish, then dropped a kiss on her forehead. "Perry and Alice took Mom and Dad to their hotel a few minutes after you dropped off." "I wasn't asleep! I was..." "...just resting your eyes, I know." Lois nestled her head further into Clark's shoulder and let silence enfold them for a brief moment. Then, "Do you think that kryptonite will hurt them?" Clark shook his head. "I don't know." Lois sighed again. "I don't want to find out." Clark pulled her closer, the wheels of the chair protesting. "Maybe they'll just be normal kids." Lois moved finally, turning her head to face him, sliding her hands to interlace her fingers with his. "They won't be normal. They'll be just as special and wonderful as you are." Clark slid his hand down her back and lifted her to her feet, floating her just a few inches above the ground. "Or as intelligent and talented as you are?" Lois wrapped her arms around his neck, pulling him closer as he drifted them towards the open window. "How about as handsome as you?" "Probably." Clark grinned and rested his forehead on hers. Lois stole a kiss from him. "What if they're girls?" "Well..." Clark chuckled as they cleared the window. "Let's just hope they take after you then." Lois' laughter was stolen by the wind of their departure. THE END ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:39:39 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: NEW: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME Part 1 of 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TITLE: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME PART: 1/5 AUTHOR: An IRC Round Robin by: Zoomway(zoomway@aol.com); chrispat(cp13607); Eraygun(eraygun@aol.com); Melisma (dlgray@usa.net); muffyslay(MPSL27@aol.com); Misha(mhall@sound.net); sharper(sharper@cncc.cc.co.us) RATING: PG-13 FEEDBACK: All comments public and private are welcome, but please no public editing. SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Clark faces a super-dilemma when Lois, Dr. Klein and Dr. Friskin are taken hostage at Star Labs and Superman *cannot* come to their rescue. __________________________ [zoomway] Clark straightened his tie. "A co-ed baby shower," he said to his reflection. Lois nudged Clark aside with her ever-growing round form and began to brush her hair. "Co-ed baby showers aren't that new, Clark, and besides, it keeps the number of labor pain horror stories to a minimum." Clark grimaced. "Labor pain horror stories?" Lois turned and looked at her husband. "You've never had an aunt or someone go on and on about being in labor for days on end with no anaesthetic and her husband not there because he was in a car wreck in Timbuktu on his way to the delivery room and it was touch and go and she saw a tunnel of light..." "Lois, please. That's *not* funny." She patted his cheek. "Okay, I made up the Timbuktu part." Clark wiped a hand nervously across his forehead. "I only sweated *once* before you fell in love with me, and that's because I thought I was causing a heatwave, but since we've been in love ..." "You've gone through a lot of handkerchiefs. I know," she said, and smiled "We'll be okay, Clark. Now, let's go and pick up all that free loot at the baby shower." Clark nodded as he escorted her to the door. "Have men ever fainted at these things?" * * * The sound on the TV seemed very loud, but the intense man watching took no notice. Bugs Bunny's eyes grew very large, his ears drooped to his shoulders. "Did ya ever get the feelin' you was bein' watched?" Bugs asked, and the intense man nodded. "All the time," he said, and went back to his task of wiring the explosives laid out on the table. "But those days are over." [chrispat] The elevator door at the Daily Planet opened onto a scene of chaos. Perry White took one look and made a beeline for his office where he found Franklin Stern ensconced behind his desk staring into a small glass of brown liquid. "Ah. There you are Perry. I took refuge in here. Hope you don't mind." Perry laughed. "Not at all. When those women get going, it's best to stay out of their way. Got any more of that?" On the newsroom floor, Ellen Lane was fluttering around the table that had been set up on one side of the room. "I just don't know about this, Senga. In my day we never had men at baby showers...and this color scheme! What happened to pink and blue?" "Ach, Ellen, dinna fash yersel'. It's going to be great fun, and the wee bairns might get some more interesting gifts than nappies." Ellen twitched at the tablecloth again. "And two grandchildren! I'm too young for one grandchild!!" Senga patted her shoulder. "There, there, hen, you'll be fine." The elevator pinged again and Martha and Jonathan appeared laden down with packages. Senga sighed with relief. Thank goodness the reinforcements had arrived. [Eraygun] Martha smiled and waved at Senga as she and Jonathan hurried down the ramp to the newsroom floor. "Everything looks wonderful!" she said cheerily. "You did a wonderful job decorating. And I love the color scheme. Don't you agree, Jonathan?" Jonathan frowned slightly and then shrugged. "Well, it's nice, but I kind of miss pink and blue. Guess I'm just a traditionalist." Ellen raised one eyebrow and smirked slightly at Senga. "Here, let me take those," she said as she reached for the packages in Martha's arms. "Thank you, Ellen." As Martha began helping Senga with the decorations, Jonathan followed Ellen to the conference room where the other gifts were stacked. "So where's Sam?" "He'll be here later. He's working on something at the lab," Ellen replied flatly. "Is there something wrong, Ellen?" "No. I mean, well, yes, there is." "Well if you'd like someone to talk it over with I can go get Martha. I'm sure she'd--" "No! I don't want to talk to Martha. She'll just tell me I'm being silly." "I'm sure she wouldn't do that. Just let me-" Ellen gave Jonathan an icy stare. "Then why don't you tell *me* what's upsetting you?" "Well, if you must know, it's this shower." "The baby shower?" "Yes!" Ellen replied in a voice laced with exasperation. "Well, what's wrong with it?" [Melisma] Ellen looked around carefully, as though afraid someone with Superman's hearing might be within earshot. "It's just that my daughter and your son... They're well-respected citizens of this town. So why aren't more of the beautiful people here? This should be a big occasion..." Jonathan thought carefully before he replied. Ellen tended to take offense so easily, but he really wanted her to understand what their children were thinking. "It *is*, Ellen," he said at last. "But even high-profile citizens sometimes want to have a small celebration out of the limelight. I think Lois and Clark are less concerned with making a social statement than with trying to establish their family as their own. So that's why they wanted to have more friends and family here than important dignitaries." Ellen still seemed unhappy, but less so. After all, her daughter's happiness should be everything to her... [muffyslay] Ellen and Jonathan wandered back into the newsroom. The crowd of shower guests had grown a bit and there were several people holding presents. Jonathan directed them to the conference room while Ellen scouted out Martha. Martha was standing near the table, talking to Senga. Two small bowls had been placed on the table. One was filled with peanuts and the other was filled with pastel-colored mints. Ellen made her way through the crowd and helped herself to a mint. "Where are the guests of honor?" she asked, practically shouting to be heard above the loud, peanut-munching guests. "They should be here by now! My Lois was always a bit on the late side, but to be late to her own baby shower...!" "They should be here any minute," Martha assured the frazzled Ellen. "Here, have a peanut." Just then, the elevator pinged, and everyone looked expectantly at the doors as they opened. [Misha] Ellen wrinkled her nose at both the peanut and Jimmy Olsen. "No thanks," she stated sourly, and started to pace the floor in small circles. Jimmy scurried by Ellen with a quick smile for the long-suffering Martha. He paused, backed up two steps and grabbed a handful of peanuts, scattering a few across the tablecloth, then disappeared into the conference room. Ellen paused in her pacing to flick the peanuts to the floor and dust the salt from the tablecloth. Where was her daughter? * * * He swiped the last of the wire clippings from his workbench, leaving the entire surface bare and empty. It had not been this clean since the day he'd set it up. He caressed the insignia impressed along the edge of the bench. He'd etched it in himself, little Superman-shields and the double L of LexLabs crossing the S's out. Dismissing his past from his mind, he holstered the laser cutting torch and re-adjusted the bulk of dynamite and wires under his jacket. He had a date with STAR Labs... and Superman. * * * As they pulled up to the front entrance of STAR Labs, Clark laid his hand on his tie, his head cocked to one side. Lois glanced over, then sighed. "What now?" "It could be nothing..." Clark paused, intent. "No." He sighed. "Shots fired ... IloveyouI'llbebackforthepartyIpromise." His last sentence was accompanied by a whisper of a kiss on her cheek, and the slam of the car door in his backwash. Lois sighed and eased out of the jeep. "One wacky scientist and one therapist to go, please," she muttered to herself. "And can I have a side order of husband delivered?" [zoomway] Lois entered Dr. Klein's laboratory area, but it was deserted. "Fine," she sighed. "Ask to see me, and then not be here." She continued down the adjacent hallway. Klein and Ruth Friskin were supposed to be here. Lois stopped. Maybe the two of them found a quiet lab to ... "No," she cautioned herself. "Don't think about that on an empty stomach." Lois heard a scuffling sound just up the hallway. She cleared her throat loudly just in case, and entered. Doctors Klein and Friskin were standing side by side. A man in a long duster coat stood near a large vault at the back of the room. Klein seemed to be moving his eyes frantically towards the man and then to the door that Lois had just entered. By the third time Klein completed the circuit, Lois, who was no stranger to subtle gestures, began to back up. "I can see you're busy, so I'll come back --" "Later?" the man asked as he stepped forward. "Ask her to stay, Dr. Friskin." Friskin sighed. "You'd better stay, Lois." "Or?" Lois asked, her voice challenging. The man opened his coat. Sticks of what appeared to be dynamite were taped together and wired to a control device that encircled his body. "Or I'll change the zip code for STAR Labs." * * * Continued in part 2/5 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:39:46 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: NEW: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME Part 3 of 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TITLE: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME PART: 3/5 AUTHOR: An IRC Round Robin RATING: PG-13 FEEDBACK: All comments public and private are welcome, but please no public editing. SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Clark faces a super-dilemma when Lois, Dr. Klein and Dr. Friskin are taken hostage at Star Labs and Superman *cannot* come to their rescue. _________________________ [Eraygun] "What do you want?" Musgrove snarled into the phone. "I told you not to bother me. I'm not playing around in here!" His voice became low and menacing as he turned to look at Dr. Klein, Lois and Dr. Friskin. "I guess you don't care what happens to my *guests*." "I've got a deal for you," Maggie Sawyer replied evenly. "But if you're not interested--" "A deal? What kind of a deal?! This better not be some kind of a trick-" "It's a swap." "Whatta you mean, a swap?" "A hostage swap." "You're offering yourself for one of the hostages, Captain Sawyer?" "No," a male voice interrupted. "I'm offering to take my wife's place." "Clark!? NO!" "Shut up, you!" Musgrove glared at Lois and when he turned back to the phone, Klein moved closer to Lois and Dr. Friskin. "Please, Dr. Klein," Lois whispered. "You can't let Clark do this. You have to stop him-" "I said, be quiet!" Musgrove snarled over his shoulder. "So, *Clark*, you want to trade places with the little woman. How noble. So how do I know this isn't some kind of a trick and you won't have Superman waiting to grab me?" "It's no trick," Clark replied. "You let her go, I'll take her place. No Superman. You have my word on that." "Let me think about it. I'll call you back in ten minutes." The line went dead and Maggie Sawyer turned to Clark. "I hope you know what the hell you're doing, Kent." "So do I, Maggie. So do I." [Melisma] * * * Jimmy parked his convertible as close to STAR Labs as he could considering all the police vehicles, media vans, and people blocking the road. Looking frantically around, he spotted Clark and Captain Sawyer talking next to a telephone in a van. "CK!" he called. "What's going on? Where's Lois?" Clark raked his hands through his hair. "That... *man* in there has her and Doctor Klein and Ruth Friskin -- we just offered for me to go in there and take her place." "What? CK, are you nuts? That guy is a looney tune. How do you know that he won't just add you to his little group in there?" "Jimmy, I gotta. That's my wife in there, and my kids, you know?" Clark said in a resigned tone of voice. They argued for a minute, Jimmy offering himself as backup and Clark saying that he could handle it alone and that he didn't want to risk Jimmy's safety. Maggie Sawyer just stood off to one side, watching and smiling in spite of the gravity of the situation at this show of male ego. Finally the telephone rang. "OK," Musgrove said, the tension obvious in his voice. "Mr. Kent can come in. Nobody else. I see *anybody* besides him, or if somebody tries to come in with him, or *any* thing, this lab is a hole in the ground, you hear?" [zoomway] Sawyer stepped forward. "Kent, I can't tell you what to do, but if this were the regular PD, they wouldn't let you go in there." Clark took a deep breath. "Maggie, even the whole Metropolis PD couldn't keep me out of there." Maggie lifted an eyebrow. "I almost believe it." Clark squared his shoulders and walked through the SCU barricade. * * * "Over here," Musgrove commanded when Clark entered the lab, but stayed near the vault. Clark stepped forward. "Okay, I'm here. Now let my wife go." "First take off your jacket. I want to check for weapons." Clark shook his head but complied. "Satisfied?" "Now the shirt." "Oh, god," Lois whispered. "My *shirt*?" "The cops might have you wired." "I'm *not* wired." "The shirt, Kent!" Musgrove shouted, his voice near hysteria. Clark raised his hands. "Okay, okay, just calm down," Clark said softly and loosened his tie. "Just let Lois leave." Musgrove's shoulders were rising and falling heavily with each breath. "First the shirt." Clark quickly unbuttoned his shirt and removed it. Lois sighed with relief. The suit was not there. Friskin's eyes widened reflexively. "Wow," she whispered. "Now let Lois go." Musgrove began to pace a short path in front of the vault. "It can't be that simple. They must have something planned. Maybe rush the building as soon as your wife leaves. That's it, isn't it?" "There is *no* plan," Clark said and began to move forward, but stopped when Musgrove's thumb twitched near the detonator. "I think I want you and your wife to stay." Musgrove nodded as he spoke. "Yes, I like that better. Now they know I won't play their games." "Wait a minute!" Clark protested, and began to move forward again, but Klein grabbed his arm. "No, Clark," he said, and then whispered, "I have an idea." [chrispat] Clark bent over and picked up his shirt. Ruth sighed with disappointment as he put it back on. She leaned over and whispered to Lois, "You know, Bernie's not bad for an egghead, but I've never seen a better chest than your Clark's." Lois chuckled and then gasped as the cramping sensation returned. Clark and Klein both rushed to her side, and even Musgrove looked concerned. "Please, lady, this is not the time for that." Lois glared at him. "Tell that to my babies, you moron, and just what do you want that kryptonite for anyway?" Musgrove backed off a bit. For all that she looked like a beach ball about to explode, something in her voice gave him pause. His voice shook a bit as he explained. "It's to protect me from Superman. He's out to get me." Clark's jaw dropped and Lois snorted. "Superman is out to get you?!? What gave you that hairbrained idea?" [sharper] "You just think he's a do-gooder." Musgrove's voice rose with a hint of hysteria. "He's not--he's--" He broke off, casting a fearful glance out the window and visibly throttling himself back. "He could be listening," he finished in a whisper. Lois' gaze slid toward Clark, and he could nearly hear her saying 'a taco short of a combo.' Her expression turned to a frown again, and she clutched her abdomen. Clark dropped to his knees beside her, his hand on her baby-swollen belly. "Lois?" His questioning gaze swiftly rose to hers as he felt the relaxed muscles. Her head turned away from Musgrove, she gave her husband a wink. He closed his eyes, relief washing hotly through his body. "Dr. Klein?" Clark asked. "How is she?" "I don't--" Clark's hand tightened on the scientist's arm, cutting off his protest, and the younger man dipped his head to breathe, "She's distracting him. What's your plan?" Musgrove cut across Clark's words, his voice sharp. "What's that? There *is* a plan, isn't there?" He looked toward the police barricade. "They're going to rush me, aren't they? Or..." His eyes widened fearfully. "Maybe Superman is hiding outside and he's going to fry me with his heat vision!" He plastered himself against the wall, his thumb twitching dangerously close to the detonator button. [Eraygun] "NO!" Clark and Dr. Klein said in unison. "There is no *plan*" Clark said again as he stood up slowly and raised his hands in a non-threatening fashion. "You misunderstood me. I was ... I was asking him what he planned to do if Lois really was in labor. Isn't that right, Dr. Klein?" "Huh? Oh, yes, that's right. That's all we were talking about." Musgrove relaxed a little and moved his thumb away from the detonator. "Well, we won't have to worry about her if you give me the kryptonite. I'll just take it and be on my way. So hand it over, Doc!" "I can't," Dr. Klein said flatly. "What do you mean, you can't! Do you think I'm joking!" Musgrove yelled and waved the detonator high above his head. "No! I know you're serious, it's just I can't open the vault." "Why not? Don't you have the combination?" "No it's not that. I know the combination, but the vault is also on a time release lock and once closed it can't be opened again for at least twelve hours." "What! You'd better not be lying to me," Musgrove said menacingly. "I'm not lying. You can examine the timing mechanism for yourself, it's on the front of the vault." Musgrove nodded and after a few moments moved to the huge door of the vault. "All right, I'll take a look. But no funny business!" As Musgrove turned his back, Dr. Klein took the opportunity to whisper in a voice only Clark could hear. "We've got to get him talking about why he wants the kryptonite and why he hates Superman. It may be our only chance." [Melisma] Musgrove turned on them, his hearing sharper than they could have thought. "Hm... how do I know that you won't go back on your word while my back is turned?" he mused aloud. "Okay, Dr. Ruth," he barked. "On your feet, next to me. Maybe the blue, so-called Boy Scout won't come after me if you're beside me..." Suddenly fearful for herself, Ruth looked over at Bernie. He gave her a little nod, and she thought she knew what he would want her to do. She got up carefully and joined Musgrove by the vault door. "Mr. Musgrove... Phil..." she started, trying to sound as calm and quiet as she wasn't feeling. "Phillip. It's more... sounds better," he corrected her in a little-boy tone that was totally at odds with the weapon in his hand. "Phillip... It sounds like you're af... have issues with Superman." She knew that he didn't like to admit that he was afraid at all, but that was clearly what he was feeling right now. "Can you tell me why? I know you've had problems talking about this before, but if I knew what you're thinking..." "Superman..." He looked fearfully around. "Superman wrecked my life, you know. It's his fault - he wrecked my life, and now he's out to finish me off." * * * Back at the Planet, Martha and Jonathan, Perry and Alice, and Ellen were gathered in the conference room, away from the guests. Senga's calming brogue could be heard soothing the restless crowd. Ellen's voice filled the small room with her sharp sudden commentary. "I told that daughter of mine to choose a nice settled career like teaching or nursing or, or *law*. But did she listen? Noooo... she *had* to go off to journalism school, and look where it's got her and my grandchildren... In another hostage situation... Again." Continued in part 4/5 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:39:42 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: NEW: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME Part 2 of 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TITLE: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME PART: 2/5 AUTHOR: An IRC Round Robin RATING: PG-13 FEEDBACK: All comments public and private are welcome, but please no public editing. SUMMARY: Another story in our Unintentional Season. Clark faces a super-dilemma when Lois, Dr. Klein and Dr. Friskin are taken hostage at Star Labs and Superman *cannot* come to their rescue. __________________________ [zoomway] Perry found Jimmy sitting alone in the semi-darkness of the conference room. "You get lost, son?" "Oh ...uh, no, Chief ... I, it's just that ... is it possible to have a midlife crisis before you turn twenty-five?" Perry laughed. "What?" he asked, and pulled up a chair next to Jimmy. Jimmy shrugged. "I know it sounds dumb, Chief, but ... it's like everyone is moving on except me." "Jimmy, if this is about a raise--" "No! It's not even about my job, really. It's just that this baby shower made me think. CK was just a little older than me when he *knew* Lois was the one for him. He told me he just ... knew." Perry nodded. He was slowly catching on. "And you're feeling like it won't happen for you?" "Exactly! I mean I've dated some great girls," he said. "And made some big mistakes like Clarissa ... but I never got that feeling CK talked about. I even started taking vitamins, but..." "Jimmy," Perry chuckled softly. "When it happens, you won't need vitamins to feel it." [sharper] The conference room light flared on, and Jimmy and Perry blinked in the sudden brightness. "What in the name of Elvis--?" Perry began, raising his arm against the glare. Ellen looked around, frowning. "You didn't... didn't send Lois off on some...assignment or something, did you?" Perry started to respond impatiently, but Ellen's nervously bitten lips showed him the worry inside her irritating exterior, and he toned down his response. "No. We have enough trouble trying to get those two to a party as it is without me making it harder." Jimmy laughed. "Like that surprise birthday party Lois kept trying to throw for Clark. Man, I'll never forget the look on their faces when you turned on the light and yelled, 'Surprise!'" Perry hid a smile at the memory of catching his top reporters rolling on the floor, kissing and trying to tear each other's clothes off. Even funnier was the look on their faces when they realized their living room was full of their co-workers. But he didn't think sharing that memory would calm Ellen down. "They probably got caught in traffic," he finally said. "I'm sure they'll be here soon." "Have you tried their house? Maybe something came up and they haven't left yet." Jimmy's suggestion earned him an impatient glare as Ellen told him, "There's no answer." She frowned suddenly. "But I could try Lois' cell phone." She reached across the conference table with a muttered, "Excuse me," and punched in the number. * * * In the jeep, the cell phone buzzed insistently, but there was no one to hear it. [chrispat] * * * Lois rolled her eyes and sighed. Another nutcase. "Okay. What do you want?" The man closed his trenchcoat and ran his eyes over Lois' rather rotund shape. "None of your business, little mama. Now get over there with Dr. Ruth and keep your mouth shut." Lois edged over to Ruth and muttered out of the side of her mouth, "You know this guy?" Ruth whispered back, "Yes. He's one of my patients. He thinks Superman is stalking him." The man whirled around. "Shut up, I said." He pulled open the coat again and Lois decided she better do as he said... at least for the moment. Klein had taken advantage of the distraction to edge toward the lab workspace where he surreptitiously pushed a button under the counter. After all the break-ins they had suffered over the course of his acquaintance with Superman, the lab had decided to install a security alarm. The man turned back to the doctor, who tried to whistle innocently through dry lips. "Okay, Dr. Klein. Where's the kryptonite?" [Eraygun] "Kryptonite?" Dr. Klein's voice cracked a little and he smiled nervously. "What makes you think we have kryptonite here?" "Cut the crap. I know that STAR Labs has kryptonite. I want it and I want it *now*!" Lois' heart raced at the mention of the kryptonite and she spoke up despite their captor's earlier admonishments. "Why do you want kryptonite?" Instead of snarling at her, the man glanced nervously around the room and then up at the ceiling. "I need it for protection," he whispered. "Have you thought of buying a dog?" The man glared at Lois. "You think I'm crazy, don't you?" Lois bit back her initial response of "a taco short of a combo plate" and shook her head. "Don't lie to me! I can tell in your eyes that's what you really think!" "Calm down Mr. Musgrove," Ruth said soothingly as she placed herself between Lois and the clearly distraught man. "This is one of the little problems we talked about in our last session, remember? You were going to work on anger management." "That's not the only 'little' thing he needs to work on," Lois muttered. * * * His mission accomplished, Clark flew back to STAR Labs. Landing in a nearby alley, he spun back into his street clothes, but as he rounded the corner he was shocked to see that the building was surrounded by the Metropolis Police Department's Special Crimes Unit, commanded by Captain Maggie Sawyer. "Maggie, what's going on here?" Clark yelled from behind the MPD's barricades. Sawyer motioned to her officers to let Clark through. "Kent, am I glad to see you. We've got a hostage situation here and we've been looking for you." "Why? Do you need me to contact Superman?" Clark said as he loosened his tie slightly. Maggie shook her head slowly. "No, it's about Lois." "Good lord, is she still in the building!?" "It's worse than that. She's one of the hostages." [Melisma] "Oh no," Clark groaned. "Not *again*!" He scrubbed at his face with the back of his hand. "What *is* it with Lois and lunatics? You'd think I'd be used to this by now..." Okay, one Superman coming up, he thought. He stalked off toward the SCU van, where ostensibly he would use their cell phone. But once out of sight of Captain Sawyer and the other policemen he spun into the suit, took off into the air, and swooshed back down in front of STAR Labs as his alter-ego. "Clark told me you have a hostage situation, Captain," he began, eager to get to his wife's side. "Um, yes, we do, Superman," she said. "But I'm afraid he left to get you before I could tell him that we really *can't* involve you." He looked at her, alarmed yet quizzical. "There's a phone in the lab and we've been able to briefly talk with Klein. It seems that this nutcase thinks that you're stalking him, and we're afraid that if he sees you, he'll go ballistic." "But I can't just stand around and do *nothing*," Superman protested. "Lois and Clark are my two closest friends... they've helped me countless times - and Lois has saved my life more than once. Isn't there some way that I could help, even if I stay out of sight?" [zoomway] Maggie shook her head. "The lunatic is wired with explosives and is near the kryptonite vault." * * * "Hi, Mrs. White," Jimmy said a bit distractedly as Perry's wife entered. "I guess I'll grab a snack," he said as he went toward the door. Ellen, seeing Alice and Perry eyeing each other warmly, smiled. "That sounds like a good idea," she said and exited with Jimmy. Alice laughed. "Was it something I said?" Perry hugged her. "No, darlin'. I think we looked a little too lovey-dovey, and they wanted to give us some privacy." "I see," she said coquettishly. "We've become the senior versions of Lois and Clark?" "Well," Perry blushed. "I don't think my heart could take that much romantic exertion." Alice nodded. "Maybe that's why they're not here yet. They got ... sidetracked." "Maybe," Perry agreed and kissed her cheek. Alice glanced through the glass. "Does Jimmy seem a little down to you, honey?" "Ah, it seems our young Mr. Olsen believes the world of love-everlasting has passed him by." Alice turned and faced Perry. "What?" He shrugged. "Every man reaches a point where he gets the itch." "Sex?" Perry laughed. "That itch is *always* there. I'm talking about the nesting itch." "Marriage? Oh, but he's so young." Perry embraced her. "We were younger." "So he has someone who doesn't feel the same way about 'nesting'?" "No, that's the problem. He has an *empty* nest." "Poor boy," Alice said, but Jimmy had vanished from view. "I don't think I've ever seen a wedding cake with just a groom on it." Perry began to laugh just as Jimmy blurred back into view and started charging back to the conference room. "Well, it at least gives him a lot of energy," Alice observed. Jimmy burst through the door. "Chief! Hostages at STAR Labs," he said, and caught his breath. "Lois is there!" [chrispat] "Great shades of Elvis! Can't that woman stay out of trouble for one day!?" Perry stuck his head out of the door. "Okay, everyone, " he bellowed. "Breaking story! I want everyone available down at STAR Labs...pronto!" He turned on Jimmy. "Where the Sam Hill is Clark?" Jimmy paled. "Um. I don't know, Chief." "Well, get down there and find out!" * * * Lois eyed the agitated man pacing back and forth in front of Dr. Klein. She started to speak but doubled up when a cramping sensation started in her back and spread to her swollen abdomen. Ruth put her arm around Lois and spoke up. "You have to let Ms. Lane go. Can't you see she's pregnant...and I think she might be going into labor." The man stopped pacing and sweat popped out on his forehead. "No! Not now!" He turned to Klein and brandished the detonator. "Get that kryptonite! Now!" The phone rang at that moment and Klein grabbed it. After listening for a moment, he hit the button putting the call on speaker phone. "It's for you, Musgrove." Continued in part 3/5 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 17:21:50 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: NEW: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME Part 5 of 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just finished reading the whole story. After I watched you write the one last night, I can't get over how good these round robins are. I hope, after your break, you continue them. You're going to, aren't you? You captured the personalities of every character involved to perfection. I loved it! Nan Smith ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:37:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Nfic In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 2:23 AM -0400 10/3/99, Alicia Utowski wrote: >as soon as I turned 18, i rushed out to sign up for all of the nfic >passwords, but now after about a year and a half of reading nfic, I have >discovered that I really don't enjoy it as much as their pg-13 counterparts. >There are only a select few nfics that I really enjoy, and I tend to like >their pg-13 counter parts better. I would rather read a good plot line than >read a graphic description of how they make love to eachother. >If i read one, i have read them all. Alicia, you might be surprised to hear I agree with you. :) Not that I enjoy nfic less than PG fic in general (I can honestly say I like both *equally*), but that I would rather read a story with a good plot line than one with sex only. Like you said, some are "read one, read them all". Whether in nfic or gfic, give me back story, give me dialogue, give me narrative ... give me emotion. If I wanted a sex scene with no set up, I could buy any number of adult magazines at the drugstore. > However, I do consider a lot of nfics as some of >my favorite fics, (Sheila Harper's A shot in the dark, Kathy Brown's Camping >with Clark, and Winners) Thank you for that. To be honest, I really tried to edit down Winners into a PG-13 version, and I just couldn't do it. Not because of the final love scene -- I could have worked around that -- but because of the conversations Lois and Clark have throughout the story. Winners is about L&C's decision to wait to make love until their wedding night, and in exploring that decision, there is some frank narrative and dialogue that I just couldn't get below an R rating. I didn't feel I'd be able to rework the story into PG-13 without losing the points I was trying to make. This is why I'm disappointed when people lump all nfic together as "trash" or "smut". "Winners" is about sex, but the story isn't a titilating series of encounters. It is (I hope) an exploration of a mature subject matter. This is also why Sheila's stories are so powerful -- while she is amazing at reworking her nfics into PG stories, IMO the nfic versions contain an extra layer of pyschological and emotional story-telling. ("Shot in the Dark" and "Mxysplit" are two prime examples.) And for the record, I've been equally disappointed (actually, much more diappointed, bordering on offended ;)) on the rare occasions I've come across someone who labels all G/PG fanfic as "boring" and claims to only have an interest in nfic. While they are entitled to their opinion, it makes *me* feel "cheap" to think they've read my work (if they have) just for cheap thrills. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:16:45 CDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jessi Mounts Subject: Re: OUATIM: Perry to Jimmy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Perry (a.k.a. Yvonne) said: >PS How in the King's name do you get this laptop to shut up? Alice caught >me out last night working late only because the darned thing made a noise >like a demented woodpecker when I turned it on. LOL! Love it. It reminds me of my family trying to unravel the mysteries of the uncalled for car phone noises. Jessi jessi914@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:09:31 CDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jessi Mounts Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Alicia said: >I would rather read a story with a new plot >line or some area that has never been approached before. > >Alicia (who hopes she is making some kind of sense here) > Plenty of sense. In fact, chances are I won't like most nfic nearly as much as PG-13 and under. I usually tend to like stories with plots. I think the reason I'm so eager to get a chance to read nfic is because it's *there*. I've taken part of just about everything involved with L&C that I possibly can, but haven't read a single nfic. I know I probably won't want to read most of it, but then there's always those nfics I've heard so much about (like Love as a Blonde, nfic version of Mxysplit, a whole lot of stuff by Labrat, and the current nominees for the nKerths). They're there, but I can't read them, and it's driving me nuts. I might not like them after all (although I can't imagine not liking some nfic I've read the PG13 versions of) but I won't know till I read. Which is why I'm very relieved to find out I only have to be 18, not 19, to read them. So, did that make any sense at all? Jessi jessi914@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:52:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) In-Reply-To: <19991004030932.25616.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:09 PM -0500 10/3/99, Jessi Mounts wrote: >In fact, chances are I won't like most nfic nearly as much >as PG-13 and under. I usually tend to like stories with plots. >. I know >I probably won't want to read >most of it, Whoa, whoa, whoa. Please, Jessi, you (and everyone else) are very welcome to your opinion of nfic (or in your case, what you think your future opinion might be ), but please don't imply that "nfic" and "stories with plot" are mutually exclusive. There are plenty of fanfics that *happen* to be rated R or NC-17 with plot (a-plot or b-plot), just as there are many G or PG rated fanfics that have no plot whatsoever. To me, someone reading one random nfic and using it to decide what all nfics are like is no different than someone picking a story off the archive at random, and deciding that's what all PG fic is like. You might hit on a great story, or you might hit on a poor one ... but neither is indicative of *every* story in L&C fanfic. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:46:56 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, it did. I have always thought that the nfic part should enhance the plot. Gratuitous sex, like gratuitous violence, never does much for me. Fortunately, there are a number of nfics out there that do fill the bill; where they are, if not exactly necessary, certainly an enhancement.. Those are the nfics I like the best. Nan Jessi Mounts wrote: > Alicia said: > > >I would rather read a story with a new plot > >line or some area that has never been approached before. > > > >Alicia (who hopes she is making some kind of sense here) > > > > Plenty of sense. In fact, chances are I won't like most nfic nearly as much > as PG-13 and under. I usually tend to like stories with plots. I think the > reason I'm so eager to get a chance to read nfic is because it's *there*. > I've taken part of just about everything involved with L&C that I possibly > can, but haven't read a single nfic. I know I probably won't want to read > most of it, but then there's always those nfics I've heard so much about > (like Love as a Blonde, nfic version of Mxysplit, a whole lot of stuff by > Labrat, and the current nominees for the nKerths). They're there, but I > can't read them, and it's driving me nuts. I might not like them after all > (although I can't imagine not liking some nfic I've read the PG13 versions > of) but I won't know till I read. Which is why I'm very relieved to find > out I only have to be 18, not 19, to read them. > > So, did that make any sense at all? > > Jessi > jessi914@hotmail.com > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:50:56 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Absolutely, Kathy. I never said that nfic and stories with plots are mutually exclusive. Quite the opposite. Nan Kathy Brown wrote: > At 10:09 PM -0500 10/3/99, Jessi Mounts wrote: > >In fact, chances are I won't like most nfic nearly as much > >as PG-13 and under. I usually tend to like stories with plots. >. I know > >I probably won't want to read > >most of it, > > Whoa, whoa, whoa. Please, Jessi, you (and everyone else) are very > welcome to your opinion of nfic (or in your case, what you think your > future opinion might be ), but please don't imply that "nfic" and > "stories with plot" are mutually exclusive. There are plenty of fanfics > that *happen* to be rated R or NC-17 with plot (a-plot or b-plot), just as > there are many G or PG rated fanfics that have no plot whatsoever. > > To me, someone reading one random nfic and using it to decide what all > nfics are like is no different than someone picking a story off the archive > at random, and deciding that's what all PG fic is like. You might hit on a > great story, or you might hit on a poor one ... but neither is indicative > of *every* story in L&C fanfic. > > Kathy > > ______________________ > Kathy Brown > kathyb@springnet1.com > kathyb@lcfanfic.com > KathyB on IRC > ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 02:59:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: OUATIM: Harry Pollack to Courtney Hart Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ms. Hart: While I can reluctantly admire your tenacity in tracking down the next ranger's station on my itinerary, you can understand that I do not appreciate it. Your interference has forced me to cut my vacation short -- my first in over five years. I also fail to appreciate your far-fetched speculations regarding my supposed role in the series of accidents that plagued the Star's printing plant in my absence. Your wild fantasies seem more suited to that of a fiction author than a reporter of hard news. Perhaps you should consider a change in profession. This message is intended as fair warning for your future behavior. If you continue to pester me in this manner, not only will I consult with a lawyer regarding the possibility of suing you for harrassment, but I will personally speak to Mr. Underhill. I believe the editor of the Star might feel he needs an expert foreman to keep his printing presses running smoothly more than he needs a reporter without a single award to her credit and an overactive imagination. Harry Pollack ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 02:59:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: OUATIM: Harry Pollack to Perry White Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Mr. White, Please accept my profuse apologies for the difficulties the Daily Planet has suffered during my absence from my post as foreman at the printing plant of the Metropolis Star. I'm afraid my timing was nothing less than catastrophic. I take my first vacation in over five years, and two days later, your paper is bombed! I'm sure many people tried to reach me and ask me to cut my vacation short, but I'd deliberately chosen a hiking trip that left me completely out of touch. I'd still be out there now if Courtney Hart from the Star hadn't tracked down my itinerary and left an urgent message for me at the ranger's station. Once I heard what was happening, I came back to Metropolis immediately. I can offer no explanation for the series of inexplicable accidents that took place while I was away, but I can assure you that you don't need to worry about them happening any longer. If you'd care to meet with me personally to discuss the situation, I'd be glad to do so. I would also welcome the opportunity to discuss the matter with your star reporters, Lois Lane and Clark Kent. If you don't mind my saying so, they're a lot better than another "Star" reporter I could mention. Is there somewhere I can send you a copy of my business card to make communication easier on both of us? As I said, I really would like to make sure that things go as smoothly as possible between Ace Printing and the Daily Planet. Sincerely, Harry Pollack ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:21:30 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Comments on the Congo (and Spoilers) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi Sandy, I'm sorry for not responding to your very complimentary email sooner; I don't get this list at the weekends, unfortunately. But thank you for taking the time and effort to read the story and post your thoughts. >SPOILERS BELOW > > > > > > > > > > > >Anyway ... I loved the way you began this story -- with Lois as the >world-weary traveler wanting to make a place for herself in >Metropolis and Clark as the established DP journalist. Thank you! I thought it might make an interesting switch. >A) Regarding the smuggling plot, you say near the beginning of your >story that >>a leading Metropolis businessman was ... supplying the criminal >>underworld with arms smuggled from an African state. >I'm too lazy to try and track this down, but is this actually the story >Lois was on? Was Lex (we assume it's Lex, anyway) smuggling arms from >Africa to supply criminals in the U.S.? For some reason, I always >thought he was involved in the arms merchant business -- period -- >supplying arms to guerillas *in* Africa. That seems so much more likely >than that arms would be coming in to the U.S. from the Congo. I mean, >arms can come from anywhere, of course, but I just thought he was making >money off of a "revolution." Just curious. Yes, that was the story Lois was on. Of course, there's no reason why Luthor couldn't have been moving weapons about all over the place. The particular aspect Lois stumbled on was movement from Congo to Metropolis. >B) At one point, you have Lois referencing the X-Files, but than you >have her totally clueless about the existence of Superman. I find it >hard to believe that she would never have seen anything about him. Some >of the remotest villages have television and they certainly have radios. >Superman would have gotten a lot of press of all sorts -- including >word-of-mouth. Maybe you have her hearing about him while she was in >the Congo and I can't remember it??? (I'm not working off a fresh >memory, here -- in more ways than one.) No, she had never heard of Superman. She had been in a *very* remote village - and remember, the newspaper in which her photograph appeared was the first she had seen in years. And as for the X-files, by the time that editor's conference took place, Lois had been back in Metropolis for a few weeks - in hospital at first. Cable TV shows repeats of programmes like the X-files every day! >3) In the beginning of your story I really wondered about Lois' >family. At one point you say that Perry, via the Planet, did all he >could to try and track her down. Surely her parents would have done >something too. I also thought you might have included a little >something about their reunion with Lois -- actually show it rather than >just tell us about it. I know you have quite a large story here so you >couldn't show everything. But, I could see her mother as a useful >mechanism for planting initial doubts in Lois about Superman and then >rebelling against that -- as always. Well, of course, there are many possible plot-lines within a story. This story reached over 200 pages in my word processor anyway, without any further developments; I decided that, given the relationship between my Lois and her parents, it was adequate to cover her reunion and subsequent drifting apart again in her conversation with Clark over their dinner-date. It also served another purpose there, of helping Clark to understand her insecurities better. >4) Clark saves Lois (and himself) when Luthor tries to blow them up by >grabbing her, smashing through the skylight, and flying upward. However, >he doesn't change into Superman, right? I kept thinking ... isn't he >afraid Luthor will see him? Luthor had left, but couldn't he have >stopped along the way and trained binoculars on the building? Ummm.... maybe, maybe not. But I think Clark preferred that Lois be alive ;) He didn't think about Luthor. >5) Clark asks Lois to erase the part of the tape where she says, >"You're Superman, aren't you?" and he admits it. Wouldn't the police >figure out that the tape's been tampered with? I assume they could and >that would make the evidence collected on Lex inadmissable in court. (I >expected this to happen, saving Lex's bacon.) Perhaps it would be inadmissable. But in any case, L&C only ever hoped that the tape would serve to persuade Henderson to bring Luthor in for questioning. I don't know about the US criminal justice system, but over here the admissibility of tape recordings in court is pretty dubious. >As you can see, most of the questions I had while reading your story >weren't major at all, and I was thoroughly pulled into the world you >created. I enjoyed having Lois initially suspicious of Superman. It >seemed to make more sense than having her immediately smitten. Thank you very much! I know you're a very critical reader, Sandy, so I take that as a great compliment. >I did stumble a bit over some "Britishisms" (for lack of a better term) >which cropped up here and there. Your reference to being in hospital -- >not using "the" before hospital. The use of "fire officers" rather than >"fire fighters" or "firemen." Saying that Leeson came from nowhere "to >stand as a candidate," rather than "to run for office." Police officers >taking the witnesses' "details" rather than their "statements." There >might have been one or two others. Well... whenever I read a story written by a US-based writer I 'stumble over Americanisms,' so let's say we're quits ! I write using UK English spelling, and in terms of vocabulary my rule (which I've agreed with Archive editors and the EIC, who help me out whenever I do get it wrong ) is that in dialogue I won't have my characters using UK-English colloquialisms, and that I avoid terms which would simply not be understood on your side of the Atlantic (so recently, for example, I was trying to find an alternative to 'cheap tat'). >But then, you taught me a word I never knew and considering what the >word is I'm terribly embarrassed. [snip] LOL! Well, I'm very pleased to have been educational as well as entertaining . I picked up the word several years ago from the daily newspaper I read, which is a quality broadsheet and which, like my Clark, refuses to accept the concept of 'dumbing down'. >By the way, since your story is in the archive already, do you want to >hear anything about typos? I found a few -- not many -- and I'd be >happy to send them to you privately if you want to update your story. >(For instance, "no one" is not hyphenated -- I think.) Thanks for the offer, Sandy, but as you say the story is archived so there's not a lot of point. I'd be amazed if there weren't typos there still; no matter how good I am myself as a proof-reader, and how careful my editors (thanks again Yvonne and Sarah) with a story of this length errors will slip through. I've proof-read academic books and articles - my own now as well as my former PhD supervisor's when I was earning extra cash as a student - and it really is impossible to pick up everything. However, having said that... 'no-one' is correctly hyphenated. In *real* English, that is! (/me ducks from the rotten tomatoes being thrown by all users of US English...) >Well, you certainly did a great job. Phew! I don't know how you got >this done while writing all the other good stories you do. I'm amazed. >Just typing this message has put me out to pasture for the evening. Thank you very much, Sandy. I do appreciate the time you've taken to write this , very much. And I am glad you like this story, since it's the one which has taken me the longest and given me the most grief so far! Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:29:47 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:52:58 -0500 Kathy Brown wrote: > At 10:09 PM -0500 10/3/99, Jessi Mounts wrote: > >In fact, chances are I won't like most nfic nearly as much > >as PG-13 and under. I usually tend to like stories with plots. >. I know > >I probably won't want to read > >most of it, > > > Whoa, whoa, whoa. Please, Jessi, you (and everyone else) are very > welcome to your opinion of nfic (or in your case, what you think your > future opinion might be ), but please don't imply that "nfic" and > "stories with plot" are mutually exclusive. There are plenty of fanfics > that *happen* to be rated R or NC-17 with plot (a-plot or b-plot), just as > there are many G or PG rated fanfics that have no plot whatsoever. Absolutely, Kathy! Try Kathy's own 'Winners,' for example, or any of Sheila's nfics, or Sandy McDermin's stories, or LabRat's excellent 'Burnout' and 'Caped Fear,' Dawn Field's 'What if I never left Krypton,' Demi's 'And the Answer Isn't,' 'Heaven's Prisoners' or 'Temporary Insanity' - or even my own 'It's a Super Life' and 'A Conscious Choice.' And these are only the nfics containing well-worked A- or B-plots which I can think of off the top of my head! Do give them a try before writing them off, Jessi. Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:34:13 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy wrote: > >Absolutely, Kathy! Try Kathy's own 'Winners,' for example, or any of >Sheila's nfics, or Sandy McDermin's stories, or LabRat's excellent >'Burnout' and 'Caped Fear, Ah, Wendy - thanks. Not only for the kind words, but for giving me the excuse to mail to the list and test it out, now that my new email account seems to be up and running. ;) And to mention that I've been unable to access my previous ukf email account since 9am, Sunday. So, if you've mailed me after that time - please mail me again at the eddress below! Thanks. LabRat :) (*finally* back in the sane world. It was a rough 24 hours. ) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS! "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H. L. Mencken ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:17:16 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: NKerth 99 Update In-Reply-To: <007801bf0ceb$a1fca440$ad4498ce@fred> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:34:35 -0400 Rich & Dawn wrote: > "Practice" for all those involved with the ceremony will be next Saturday at > 6 pm Eastern time on #nkerth. Sorry to be a pain, Dawn, but you do realise that 6pm EST is actually 11pm UK time, and even later for anyone from France or Germany? I know 11pm isn't that late for me, but these things never get started on time and that'll mean carrying on until well into the small hours. Any chance of making it earlier? Even the RRs (supposedly) start a couple of hours before that. Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:23:03 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" In-Reply-To: <000201bf0cbe$35f60b60$c69501d4@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Sheila wrote: > > I try to keep scenes as steamy as > >possible without slipping over the edge, so I walk that narrow tightrope > >Kathy mentioned to Charlotte, and sometimes I fall off. ("How's that, > >Kathy?" "Umm, Sheila, you've got it down to an 'R.'" Hmmm. For those of us whose film censor's rating system is quite different, can someone explain the difference between R and whatever the other rating is - X? NC17? Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:47:29 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" In-Reply-To: <385158113.938797650652.JavaMail.root@web02.pub01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:07:30 -0400 Joy Sowell wrote: > > Which story, Wendy? The story of mine Erin and I were referring to, on which she did a fantastic job of editing, is 'A Conscious Choice', which some of you have already read as nfic. Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk Find my fanfic at http://www.simplyorganized.simplenet.com/fanfic.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 06:52:21 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: PJ Piasecki Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/3/99 2:54:29 PM Central Daylight Time, maggie13@BELLSOUTH.NET writes: << having visions of Sheila Harper at the mall, in the supermarket, at airport newsstands, and ideally with Chris Mulder on the Oprah special, Fan Fiction Authors who crossed over to the Best Seller List >> How about a novel in hardcover, with a little "Oprah's reading list" sticker on it? Piper ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 11:54:01 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) In-Reply-To: <001e01bf0e4b$bb57e920$f625883e@d9t5t7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:34:13 +0100 LabRat wrote: > Doc. Klein's LabRat > labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk > Now, Rat, what a perfect address! Can't see any of us forgetting that one! Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 07:46:03 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: NKerth 99 Update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy Richards wrote: > > On Sat, 2 Oct 1999 11:34:35 -0400 Rich & Dawn > wrote: > > > "Practice" for all those involved with the ceremony will be next Saturday at > > 6 pm Eastern time on #nkerth. > > Sorry to be a pain, Dawn, but you do realise that 6pm EST is actually > 11pm UK time, and even later for anyone from France or Germany? I > know 11pm isn't that late for me, but these things never get started > on time and that'll mean carrying on until well into the small hours. > Any chance of making it earlier? Even the RRs (supposedly) start a > couple of hours before that. I wasn't going to say anything, but since Wendy brought it up, I too would love it if it were earlier (or on a Sunday). There's an event in town that I want to attend Saturday night, and I've been trying to figure out how to do them both. But, I undertand if you can't and hope everyone enjoys themselves. >> Doc. Klein's LabRat >> labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk >Now, Rat, what a perfect address! Can't see any of us forgetting that >one! I second that. How in the world? I've heard of vanity license plates, but vanity e-mail addresses? Sandy smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:01:16 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy Richards wrote: > On Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:52:58 -0500 Kathy Brown > wrote: > > > At 10:09 PM -0500 10/3/99, Jessi Mounts wrote: > > >In fact, chances are I won't like most nfic nearly as much > > >as PG-13 and under. I usually tend to like stories with plots. >. I know > > >I probably won't want to read > > >most of it, > > > > > > Whoa, whoa, whoa. Please, Jessi, you (and everyone else) are very > > welcome to your opinion of nfic (or in your case, what you think your > > future opinion might be ), but please don't imply that "nfic" and > > "stories with plot" are mutually exclusive. There are plenty of fanfics > > that *happen* to be rated R or NC-17 with plot (a-plot or b-plot), just as > > there are many G or PG rated fanfics that have no plot whatsoever. > > Absolutely, Kathy! Try Kathy's own 'Winners,' for example, or any of > Sheila's nfics, or Sandy McDermin's stories, or LabRat's excellent > 'Burnout' and 'Caped Fear,' Dawn Field's 'What if I never left > Krypton,' Demi's 'And the Answer Isn't,' 'Heaven's Prisoners' or > 'Temporary Insanity' - or even my own 'It's a Super Life' and 'A > Conscious Choice.' And these are only the nfics containing > well-worked A- or B-plots which I can think of off the top of my head! Wow! Thank you for the mention. I'm usually relegated (or I flatter myself that I am) to the "and all the others, too many to mention" category. Sandy smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:45:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: NKerth 99 Update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Sorry to be a pain, Dawn, but you do realise that 6pm EST is actually > 11pm UK time, and even later for anyone from France or Germany? I > know 11pm isn't that late for me, but these things never get started > on time and that'll mean carrying on until well into the small hours. I can't speak for Dawn, but I can tell you why I picked this time when I did the first Kerth Awards, 18 months ago. I know that time is late in Europe, but it's pretty early in the morning (Sunday) in Australia -- it's difficult to impossible to pick a good time for everyone, world-wide. When I was setting up the first awards, I was caught between cranky Germans and Aussies and finally just picked the best compromise I could. And the Kerth Awards have done pretty well with starting on time, actually :) so we can hope... And Sandy, I hear ya... my neice turns one on Friday the 15th, and it's quite possible her party will be Saturday the 16th... in the afternoon, I hope :) -- ------------------------------------------------------- Pam Jernigan | jernigan@bellsouth.net ChiefPam on IRC | ------------------------------------------------------- Lucy: "You could get any guy you wanted, but ... do you have to be so smart all the time? So ... intense?" Lois: "Look, I'm just being myself. If they're not man enough to handle me, then ... I'll wait for someone who is," --Lucy & Lois Lane discuss men, "Lois & Clark" pilot ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:54:19 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Guy or Lesley Hilliard Subject: Re: NEW: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME Part 1 of 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Like Nan, I would like to take this opportunity to tip my hat to all the wonderful writers on the fanfic IRC on Saturday night. It is just amazing how you are able to put together such a wonderful story with all the chatter and laughter from the Peanut Gallery. I look forward to joining them again when they come back from hiatus. You guys all did a wonderful job. S p o i l e r Also I just loved this comment by Lois. Just perfect Misha :) > >Lois sighed and eased out of the jeep. "One wacky scientist and one therapist >to go, please," she muttered to herself. "And can I have a side order of >husband delivered?" > Lesley (Ladyhawke) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:02:50 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Cruise pt1 pg1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/99 2:17:19 AM !!!First Boot!!!, sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes: << Charlotte, the problem is that some of the email programs put a return after 80 characters, rather than so many inches. So if you use a proportionally-spaced font (Ariel or Times Roman or CG Times) or a small font size, a line with a number of narrow letters like "i" or "l" may have more than 80 characters in it. I normally use 12-point Courier (which *isn't* proportionally spaced) with 1 1/4" margins, and that rarely causes line-break problems. Give it a shot and see. Sheila >> Thank you, Sheila. I will try it. Charlotte - who had to learn to use a word processor back in 1980 when they brought her the first company 8 bit computer and she was the only librarian in the company and no secretarial help. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:07:56 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Superman TP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/1/99 7:40:53 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK writes: Phil, I, of course, deleted my copy of your note re: superman TP, so I have to rely on my very faulty memory, but below are two possibilities from September DC previews: 1. Superman Red/Superman Blue - Collector's edition 4.95/7.95 CA stars 07222D 2. Superman Transformed - TP - 12.95/ 17.95 CA Stars 07457D The first may be an old one. The transformed is the one I have/had., Cant seem to find it. But I remember it left me with too many unanswered questions. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:07:56 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: NEW: SOMEONE'S WATCHING (OVER) ME Part 4 of 5 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Another great story, and wonderful writing frmo the RR regulars. There are so many great lines in here, but apart from the humour, I loved the portrayal of Clark Kent as the hero. s p o i l e r s p a c e Yes, it was so typical Clark to handle Musgrove on his own in the end, without superpowers and just with his own kindness and logic. Perfect! Klein did well too; nice to see him alos trying to defend both the Secret and Clark's well-being. Just a small point - there seems to be some text missing here, after 'who': > Ellen stamped her foot and glared at the woman who . "That still counts. Oh, and I also loved the conversation between Alice, Martha and Ellen. I actually felt sorry for Ellen here, and felt it was a shame that aspect of the story was left hanging. Maybe in the next instalment? Thanks for another enjoyable story! Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:11:45 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: "Revealing Cruise" Comments and Spoilers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 10/3/99 6:19:57 AM !!!First Boot!!!, smcdermin@EROLS.COM=20 writes: > Summary > Lois and Clark investigate an international drug cartel. > During the cruise, they each learn some starting > facts about themselves and their partner.>> Funny thing is I wrote starting instead of startling in both cases.=20 Caught it later but not in the summary. SSSSSSSSSS For a moment, I thought there was a snake in the room. Very clever symbol for a scene divider. I can't take credit for this. I saw it in someone's fanfiction and just=20 borrowed it. << Give us a feeling that something was actually happening next door, and that they were at some sort of risk. It really seemed like L&C were there just to sleep with each other at the expense of Interpol. >> You found me out, Sandy. I do indeed use A plots more to make the Bs more believable. However, since you asked (and Carol=20 Malo, too)=20 I guess I will flesh out that plot a bit before sending it to the archive. =20 It's gonna make the darn thing longer though, so be forewarned.=20 Still wavering on this. The points I wanted to make do come across, and frankly the cruise=20 investigation is pretty boring - so yeah, it was just a plot device. =20 I'll give a bit of time to stew and we'll see. << reporters -- but then again, there wouldn't be a story, would there? Unless, of course, you have L&C getting wind of an Interpol sting operation and, as a result, trying to get a cabin on the opposite side to get the goods on the sting *and* the cartel. There could be some interesting mix-ups between the two couples with everyone watching and bugging everyone else. I could just see people accidentally going into the wrong cabin, getting into bed with the wrong people.... Uh, this is beginning to sound like a Peter Sellers spy/caper movie. Sorry... >> Sounds like a good plot, but not mine. You're welcome to write it.=20 I'll even let you use the cruise. I got into enough trouble=20 with my barely steamy scene in this one. (BG) <>> Nah, I'm not gonna change this. You point is well taken, but remember if Lois Lane and Clark Kent, reporters, weren't on the spot=20 whenever some big crime breaks, there wouldn't be a LNCTNAOS TV show either, a point that has been made about many=20 dramatic series. Call it poetic license.=20 Besides, Lois and Clark=20 do have a reputation by this time for being good investigators. And if=20 Interpol, as I assume, wants people not only unknown but young enough to be a pair of rich honeymooners, LnC sure do fit the part. I can just see the local head of Interpol saying, "Nah those two wont work, but I have a=20 couple of pretty good expects in just this type of operation who'd be perfec= t fot the job."=20 <> Oops. Thanks for catching this. Neither my daughter, nor my mother in law, nor Ben nor Drew caught that one. Guess I'd better search and replace for Clark or Lois in this section. > "You're right in part, Lois. I have had girlfriends; I > have dated, but the intimacy threshold, the big > threshold...." I think I'd use a few more contractions here --> I've had. Nope, this is taken word for word from Virtually Destroyed=20 And 'I ain't changing it=85' <> I most certainly will not. You caught a couple of real oops there=20 and I intend to consider each and every point and maybe change it. No promises, but feedback helps an author write a=20 story better. <> As I said before, this is my personal revelation and it's my=20 Lois, who acts and reacts the way - I guess the way I would in=20 A similar situation. So, I hope you won't be disappointed if=20 she doesn't react the way your Lois Lane would. By now if all of you have been paying attention to my posts about the TV=20 revelation on the other Listserv, you know how I feel about that. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:26:54 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Hmmm. For those of us whose film censor's rating system is quite >different, can someone explain the difference between R and whatever >the other rating is - X? NC17? Wendy, according to the movie ratings, PG-13 is supposed to be suitable for 13 year olds and up; R means that kids have to have an adult with them if they are under 17; and NC-17 means no children under the age of 18, period. As far as how that translates into nfic, all I can do is give you examples: the recent RR "Stuck in the Middle with You" is an 'R,' and any of my nfics are NC-17. For a comparison of the same story, check out Peace's "When My World Divides and Shatters": on her website, it's at an R rating, while on Anne's, it's at NC-17. Sheila (I don't want to make people on the main fanfic list uncomfortable. Do you want us to move this discussion to the nfic list?) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:34:33 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: Conscious Choice (was PG13ish and "the line") Comments: To: Wendy Richards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy, I read it as nfic, too. Both of you did a wonderful job. JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:04:44 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Conscious Choice (was PG13ish and "the line") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Like I said, gratuitous sex doesn't do much for me, but if it is part of the plot and enhances the story, go for it. This one was a perfect example. There is a definite place for such scenes and, when they're appropriate, then they shouldn't be avoided, for those of us who are not offended by the subject. Nurses rarely are. We see all sides of human nature on the job; that side of it is no more out of place than any other. Nan Joy Sowell wrote: > Wendy, I read it as nfic, too. Both of you did a wonderful job. > JOY:) > > __________________________________________________ > FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:07:19 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: How much explanation needed? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi FoLCs: I have been wrestling with a problem for a few weeks now and would appreciate opinions if anyone is interested. Here is the problem: My terrific, wonderful, brilliant brother, who writes no fiction but who is a fabulous editor, has been editing my stories for the last few months. He knows me very well, which helps a lot, and he was a fan of (both ST:TNG and) L&C. OTOH, he does not remember episodes as well as I do, and regarding L&C in particular, does not remember episode titles or content anymore. He does not have cable to see it on TNT, and though he was a fan of Teri, he has never really warmed to Dean. He has the eps on tape but has no time to look at them (and edit). In addition, he has been a long time Superman fan and remembers a great deal from the movies and the comix, sometimes mixing details between the genres. So, when he is editing, he always wants me to add more about what happened in the ep I might be referring to, even though, all of you, my audience, probably remember the eps as well or better than I. I have read many fanfics that dealt with eps or referred to eps without a lot of recap of ep action. Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:20:18 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Carolyn; Although far be it from me to argue with an editor, Tara is taking a course in fiction writing, and the consensus seems to be that a lot of explanation is not only bad writing, but unnecessary. According to what I've read, the current theories seem to be that there should be just enough to let the reader know what's going on without swamping them in detail, and that explanation should be incorporated into the story. As a happy medium, if it were me, I'd put in the absolute minimum necessary, and let the readers figure out the rest from context. But that's just me. If you need more, why don't you go to a bookstore and hunt up a book on the basics of writing for publication. That would probably be more help than I would ever be. Nan Carolyn Schnall wrote: > Hi FoLCs: > > I have been wrestling with a problem for a few weeks now and would > appreciate opinions if anyone is interested. > > Here is the problem: > > My terrific, wonderful, brilliant brother, who writes no fiction but who is > a fabulous editor, has been editing my stories for the last few months. He > knows me very well, which helps a lot, and he was a fan of (both ST:TNG > and) L&C. > > OTOH, he does not remember episodes as well as I do, and regarding L&C in > particular, does not remember episode titles or content anymore. He does > not have cable to see it on TNT, and though he was a fan of Teri, he has > never really warmed to Dean. He has the eps on tape but has no time to > look at them (and edit). In addition, he has been a long time Superman fan > and remembers a great deal from the movies and the comix, sometimes mixing > details between the genres. > > So, when he is editing, he always wants me to add more about what happened > in the ep I might be referring to, even though, all of you, my audience, > probably remember the eps as well or better than I. I have read many > fanfics that dealt with eps or referred to eps without a lot of recap of ep > action. > > Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much > explanation do I really need to put in? > > Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > Carolyn > cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:29:45 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Perry [and attachment] In-Reply-To: <019d01bf0dd5$82fd59a0$e19001d4@MFUK.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi Chief! Done! Superman stopped by for dinner last night and I pinned him down for a couple of hours - threatened him that if he didn't give me the interview of his lifetime I'd let Lois cook! Anyway, here it is. I think you'll like it. He said a lot of very thoughtful stuff, but he was also very critical of the UN and the current fondness for sending the Cruise missiles first and talking later. I think you'll be able to pull out a few headline-grabbing quotes which should help our sales figures! He also talked about the aftermath of bombings - you know he helps out at disaster scenes all the time and he's used to seeing human misery and suffering, but he got very angry about this kind of thing. He sees it as entirely avoidable. That part's strong stuff! Hope the truck drivers are back to normal. That reminds me - you might find the that printing plant problems start to calm down now. Seems the senior foreman, Harry Pollack, was away on vacation since just before the bombing, and he's now back. Superman seems to know him from somewhere and asked me to tell you he's reliable. > The chief exec of NTM is a guy named Donald MacDonald. Thanks. I'll ask Jimmy to do some research. Lois and I are looking into NTM's accounts. > BTW, if Lois thinks she's gonna get any > special treatment - dog shows and the like - tell her to forget it. Are you joking, Chief? Have you ever tried to get Lois to take it easy? It's like trying to rein in a rampaging bull (and don't tell her I said that!). More later, Clark. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:42:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? Comments: To: Carolyn Schnall Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carolyn wrote: Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the introduction to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be useful. If it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your story. Also, you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they will just post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:45:31 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Perry cc Lois, Cat, Jimmy [encrypted] In-Reply-To: <60e7eb17.25292b0f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Cat, Thanks for the information about Jeffers. It really is looking as if he was an innocent dupe - foolish, but not malicious. I see no reason why we should pursue him any further. The payment of $2 million is still intriging, and we need more information. Why is someone giving Jeffers that amount of money? If we are assuming he wasn't in on the bombing, is someone trying to launder a payoff? Jimmy, we need your help. Can you dig up everything you can get hold of on Donald McDonald, the CEO of NTM. Business interests, bank account details, stockholdings, associates, what he has for breakfast... and Cat, see what you can find out. Someone in his position must get out and about, though personally I don't ever remember seeing him at the big media events. Bit of a secretive guy, it seems. Lois and I think we may be close to cracking this thing. C.K. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:55:45 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: PG13ish and "the line" In-Reply-To: <000001bf0e74$81c79880$ab01140a@cmn.net.cmn.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Mon, 4 Oct 1999 08:26:54 -0600 Sheila Harper wrote: > > Wendy, according to the movie ratings, PG-13 is supposed to be suitable for > 13 year olds and up; R means that kids have to have an adult with them if > they are under 17;[snip] Thanks for that helpful information, Sheila. It occurred to me that since I'm a GE for the archive this is the kind of thing I should understand! Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:23:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <37F8E1D2.840CD79B@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Nan: Of course you are being helpful!!!!! Your suggestion about hunting up a book on the subject is a great one:) It's been a long time since my graduate classes, so I should recheck! I think, though, I should clarify that my question was in regard to fanfics (and nfics) in particular, since it is a specific genre regarding TV series (or movies) that refers to particular episodes on occasion. I guess I was wondering how much explanation about an ep is really necessary for FoLCs. I give them credit for know the ep, my brother just does not. For instance, I referred to BE and my brother thought Trey might be from South Park! Carolyn >Hi, Carolyn; > >Although far be it from me to argue with an editor, Tara is taking a course in >fiction writing, and the consensus seems to be that a lot of explanation >is not >only bad writing, but unnecessary. According to what I've read, the current >theories seem to be that there should be just enough to let the reader know >what's going on without swamping them in detail, and that explanation >should be >incorporated into the story. As a happy medium, if it were me, I'd put in the >absolute minimum necessary, and let the readers figure out the rest from >context. But that's just me. If you need more, why don't you go to a >bookstore and hunt up a book on the basics of writing for publication. That >would probably be more help than I would ever be. > >Nan > >Carolyn Schnall wrote: > >> Hi FoLCs: >> >> I have been wrestling with a problem for a few weeks now and would >> appreciate opinions if anyone is interested. >> >> Here is the problem: >> >> My terrific, wonderful, brilliant brother, who writes no fiction but who is >> a fabulous editor, has been editing my stories for the last few months. He >> knows me very well, which helps a lot, and he was a fan of (both ST:TNG >> and) L&C. >> >> OTOH, he does not remember episodes as well as I do, and regarding L&C in >> particular, does not remember episode titles or content anymore. He does >> not have cable to see it on TNT, and though he was a fan of Teri, he has >> never really warmed to Dean. He has the eps on tape but has no time to >> look at them (and edit). In addition, he has been a long time Superman fan >> and remembers a great deal from the movies and the comix, sometimes mixing >> details between the genres. >> >> So, when he is editing, he always wants me to add more about what happened >> in the ep I might be referring to, even though, all of you, my audience, >> probably remember the eps as well or better than I. I have read many >> fanfics that dealt with eps or referred to eps without a lot of recap of ep >> action. >> >> Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much >> explanation do I really need to put in? >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> Thanks, >> Carolyn >> cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:27:35 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <384190883.939058946693.JavaMail.root@web04.pub01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Joy: >Carolyn wrote: >Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much >explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? > >Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the introduction >to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be useful. If >it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your story. Also, >you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they will just >post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. > >JOY:) > I guess I was already doing as you suggest to the extent I thought necessary, though I appreciate your response very much:):):) Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run down of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:27:04 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: Change of Eddress (was Nfic nee Cruise Control...) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy wrote: >> Doc. Klein's LabRat >> labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk >> > >Now, Rat, what a perfect address! Can't see any of us forgetting that >one! > I certainly hope not! And Sandy wrote: >I second that. How in the world? I've heard of vanity license plates, >but vanity e-mail addresses? LOL, Sandy. It's a quirk of my new free mailer here in the UK (Freeserve) which insists on a double barelled name and address combination rather than just a name. Now when it asked me for an address.....what *else* was I going to put in? ;) Glad I was able to post to the list with it, actually, since I've just returned from a day out to Loch Lomond with my aunt and discovered a host of returned mail with the message about the change I sent out to everyone. Spit. Apparently Carolyn, Carol (Malo) and Jeanne.....you don't exist. Funny that as I could have sworn you weren't figments of my imagination.... ;) LabRat :) (still shaking out the glitches....) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS! "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H. L. 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------=_NextPart_000_021F_01BF0EA2.5C66E040-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:15:20 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: Unsubscribe??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/99 2:11:51 PM Central Daylight Time, cmuzza@U.GENIE.CO.UK writes: << How do I unsubscribe from this list. Having two accounts receiving the same messages is really starting to do? My head in. >> To unsubscribe from the list, send and e-mail to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU in the body of the e-mail type UNSUB LOISCLA-GENERAL-L or SIGNOFF LOISCLA-GENERAL-L Zoom ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:18:27 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Important message to the resident mad scientist Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Phil! Brave Sir many titles! After reading "Preparations" and "Stronger Than Me Alone," I strongly suggest that you get in touch with Bernie. The two of you have to drop all blueprints and prototypes of your time machine and get to work on a different project immediately! You need to come up with some of kind of mind-reading machine that will transfer thought processes from the mind straight to the computer -- complete with HTML coding, italics, paragraph breaks, punctuation marks, and accompanying pictures. Just think, Phil! The FoLCs will arrange for a lovely bit of countryside with some nice, winding paths on which you can ride your motorcycle to your heart's content, dreaming up new stories as you go. Your mind-reading machine (which, of course, should have a twenty-five mile range at *least*) will automatically transfer your stories to your computer back home. Everyone will be happy this way. It's the perfect solution! ...Testing, you say? Oh, no problem. Tell Bernie he can run a full field-test on that rat in his lab with the predeliction towards chewing pencils. I think he'd be pleasantly surprised at the results. :) Hazel (who loved how both Lex & Clark had the same reaction: "KENT!" "LUUUTHOOOR!") ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:46:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carolyn wrote: > Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will > remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run down > of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? > Tell your brother that one of the most important things about writing is to know your audience, and write for them. We, your audience, are devoted FOLCs who remember many *many* details of the show. A long explanation, for the most part, will be intrusive rather than helpful -- breaking the flow of the story. Only say as much as you need to tell *your* story -- don't worry about recreating previous ones. -- ------------------------------------------------------- Pam Jernigan | jernigan@bellsouth.net ChiefPam on IRC | ------------------------------------------------------- Lucy: "You could get any guy you wanted, but ... do you have to be so smart all the time? So ... intense?" Lois: "Look, I'm just being myself. If they're not man enough to handle me, then ... I'll wait for someone who is," --Lucy & Lois Lane discuss men, "Lois & Clark" pilot ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 13:12:55 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're not sure, probably a short paragraph just to recap (very briefly) any references to an episode might do. I wouldn't go any farther than that, though. Nan Carolyn Schnall wrote: > Hi Joy: > > >Carolyn wrote: > >Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much > >explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? > > > >Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the introduction > >to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be useful. If > >it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your story. Also, > >you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they will just > >post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. > > > >JOY:) > > > > I guess I was already doing as you suggest to the extent I thought > necessary, though I appreciate your response very much:):):) > > Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will > remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run down > of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? > > Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:36:06 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/1999 12:38:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jessi914@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << So, did that make any sense at all? Jessi >> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:43:28 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: ML P Subject: Where's the rest of the cruise?!? I'm dying to read the next part(s) of Revealing Cruise. Hope they get posted soon. I've really enjoyed what I've read so far. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 15:51:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Combo: NKerth 99 Update and Nfic/PG13 "ish" and the line In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:17 AM +0100 10/4/99, Wendy Richards wrote: >Sorry to be a pain, Dawn, but you do realise that 6pm EST is actually >11pm UK time, and even later for anyone from France or Germany? I >know 11pm isn't that late for me, but these things never get started >on time and that'll mean carrying on until well into the small hours. >Any chance of making it earlier? Even the RRs (supposedly) start a >couple of hours before that. Ah, but the actual ceremony is at 6 pm ET, so I can certainly understand why the decision to have the practice at that time was made. Pam already answered the question of why 6 ET for the awards themselves ... there just isn't a time that will please everyone, and this is the time that worked for most people. As you know from recent experience, Wendy, that's what having a "lie in" on Sunday is for. At 8:26 AM -0600 10/4/99, Sheila Harper wrote: >(I don't want to make people on the main fanfic list uncomfortable. Do you >want us to move this discussion to the nfic list?) Well, considering the recent responses have been letting people who don't normally read nfic know that "plot" and "nfic" aren't mutually exclusive, I think moving it to the Nfic list would be defeating the points the posters were making (since after all, everyone on the nfic list presumably already knows nfics have plots just as often as gfics). Also, I'm not personally subscribed to the nfic list .... ;) In any case, I really do think this thread is winding down. :) Kathy (who really does want to get on the nfic list, but I just haven't had time to deal with any more email! :)) ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:46:51 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Perry to Ron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ron, Sorry I couldn't make it the other night. In the end I just managed to grab a couple of hours sleep after we *finally* managed to fix the press again. How about tomorrow night, same time? Perry White ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:01:22 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Perry White to Harry Pollack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mr Pollack, Thank you for your kind and most informative email. I'm sorry to hear that you had to cut your vacation short: I hope the time you had was enjoyable and restful. I have already noticed the difference at Ace Printing since your return, and am optimistic that we can continue to forge a mutually satisfactory business relationship. To that end, I would like to arrange a brief meeting with you: I can be at your office tomorrow at either 8am or 4pm. Please confirm which would be more convenient. I will pass on your offer of an interview to Ms Lane and Mr Kent. Regards, Perry White ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:17:21 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Perry to Clark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clark, Great Superman interview! We'll be running in the late edition tonight, and I'm breathing down the ad team's necks to book more advertising on the back of it. Tell him I sure appreciate his time on this. You know, you and he seem to have a lot in common. His outrage at the bombing aftermath sounded so much like you that I almost forgot I was reading his words and not yours. I guess you two must chew the fat about these things a lot. Harry Pollack wrote me to apologise for the troubles at the printers. He seems like a good solid guy. He offered to give you and Lois an interview - I'm sure he just wants some free PR to make sure the company's reputation stays intact, but you might want to check it out. >Are you joking, Chief? Have you ever tried to get Lois to take it >easy? It's like trying to rein in a rampaging bull (and don't tell >her I said that!). Ha! She got you on the run, son? Got to go - Alice is on the warpath again. Seems I hurt her feelings by nodding off during...well, you know. Perry ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:41:09 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Perry to Cat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cat, > It's nearly five o'clock in the morning and I haven't slept in days. It's > been wonderful! Honey, don't let your 'fast woman' image stop you from getting a good night's sleep once in a while. I can't have my best society journalist dropping off on the job. > > This year's film festival has been the best! Attached is an > exclusive interview I just happened to get with Robert De Nero. Would you > believe he's thinking about running for President? Judas Priest! Not another! Why can't actors keep acting - and don't try and tell me that politics is just play-acting on a bigger stage! Politicians should stay in politics and not stray into writing God-awful pot-boilers, and dentists should keep drilling teeth and not go off to England to build time machines! re. Jeffers If you ask me, the 'something important' that Jeffers lost at the Planet was most likely his dignity. The guy has an uncanny habit of putting himself into compromising situations. Did he tell you about the Sailing Club Christmas party? Heck, if I was his wife, I'd have forgotten by now how many incidents I'm supposed to have forgotten, if you understand what I'm saying. > Gotta go ... meeting a good friend to watch the sunrise over Metropolis. > Don't think I've seen a sunrise before. > I'm seeing plenty these days. Perry ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:11:31 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: OUATIM: Ron to Perry Comments: To: Yvonne Connell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perry, Okay, Spooney. I bet no one has called you *that* in a while. But instead of some stuffy old room, why don't you meet me at the marina at 6:00? I have a new boat. It's a 125 foot triple masted schooner with teak interior. You know you've always liked them. Ron __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 16:28:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: OUATIM: Perry to Clark Comments: To: Yvonne Connell In-Reply-To: <015d01bf0eaa$ae34fa80$a89501d4@MFUK.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 9:17 PM +0100 10/4/99, Yvonne Connell wrote: >You know, you and he seem to have a lot in common. His outrage at the >bombing aftermath sounded so much like you that I almost forgot I was >reading his words and not yours. I guess you two must chew the fat about >these things a lot. Nice, Yvonne ... Clark must have been really affected by his trip overseas to let this get through. :) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:28:59 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: OUATIM:Lari to Dan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dan! I am getting so fed up with the Planet! Now instead of getting weird looks, people are looking at me like I had lost my best friend or something. For example the other day i walked passed Chelsea Records and I saw Clark in the window. I think he was in the lullaby section. Anyway he looked at me with such sympathic eyes, that is scared me! I wanted to walk up to him and say, "Excuse me, does this shirt look bad with this skirt?" Honestly, I am getting sick of Metropolis all together! I want to get away from Metropolis. Be my own woman.. make a name for myself. Maybe I should move to New York.. yeah New York sounds nice. ;) Anyway, until I can afford a move, I am going to distance myself from all of the Planet hubbub. I am never getting any email from anyone over anyway. Even Cat stopped saying hi. I was wondering if you wanted to form some sort of partnership. Sorta like Lois and Clark except we don't write articles, we just INVESTIGATE! We track down the bad guys and then leave it up to the authorites to throw the book at them! LOL! If you want I can stop by your place or you can stop by mine. I hope to see you tonight. Maybe we can celebrate. Luv, Lari {PS. Thanks for the flowers. I ABSOLUTELY love roses... I am glad you remembered my birthday! =)} Author's note: Today is my 21st bday so i thought what the heck, why not add it into this story! Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 17:29:15 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Combo: NKerth 99 Update and Nfic/PG13 "ish" and the line MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/99 4:50:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM writes: << Kathy (who really does want to get on the nfic list, but I just haven't had time to deal with any more email! :)) >> Kathy, There hasn't been that much activity on the nfic list lately. It doesn't take too much time. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:51:20 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: OUATIM: Lois to Perry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Perry, OK you guys, you can both stop pretending! And no I haven't been reading= Clark's private mail, I gave that up some time ago. But I can read the t= wo of you like a book. I knew Clark would tell someone our news and I'm happy it was you and Alice. We can hardly keep it a secret for long. And I don't really believe that I'll be assigned to dog shows. Hah, I kn= ew that you'd be thinking that I was thinking that. And I did, but not for long. I guess I was just letting of a little steam. Hey, you spend eve= ry morning of the past week reviewing what you had for breakfast and you'd feel a little crabby too. And I've made ammends to Clark for my.... outburst. You should try it, Chief, it's a great way for relieving stress. In fact why don't you take= Alice and head off to Graceland for a little R&R. This investigation isn= 't going anywhere fast. Clark tells me that the CEO of NTM is a guy named Donald MacDonald and th= at you knew him way back when. Chief, did he hold any grudges for the hard time he had at school? You knew Underhill back then too. Were these two= buddies? Is that why Underhill is his editor? I have this feeling that what happened to the Planet might be tied into something that happened years ago. I mean it seems to me that there are one too many coincidence= s and you know what they say about coincidence. Clark and I agree that Jeffers is a dupe, although a very expensive dupe.= = I think Cat might be right about the amount. Even if this guy is as rich= as......... Luthor, argh, I doubt he'd throw 20million dollars away on a red herring. No-one is that rich or that vengeful. Any information you can give us on this MacDonald's past will be appreciated. If we can find a motive then maybe we can find the proof to= tie him into the bombing. Take care, Lois = ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:51:57 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: OUATIM: Lois to Lucy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Auntie Lucy, Yes it's true! Can you believe it? Lucy we have to get together and hav= e a long talk, but I wanted to let you know. I haven't told mother yet but= I know I have to just do it. Her reaction scares me, she's going to go crazy. Clark is thrilled and I'm getting over my shell shock. Talk to you soon, Love Lois ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:51:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: OUATIM: Lois to Cat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Cat, 'Fraid I haven't been feeling up to the club these past few weeks, but hopefully things should start to improve. Hey, how do you feel about being Auntie Cat? Yes it's a fact. The workaholic Lois Lane is about to embark on another career and this one's for life. Not that I plan on giving up the old one. I'm having a baby n= ot a personality transplant. It's pretty scary Cat, this motherhood thing a= nd I just wish I felt half as condident about being a mother as I did about being a reporter. Still I have the best of partners in both my jobs so maybe things won't be so difficult. We've told Perry and Alice but so far you are the only Planet staffer who= knows. Hey, maybe I am having a personality change...... me confiding in= you and calling you Auntie. You know Cat you're going to have to buy a whole new wardrobe. I refuse to subject my child to the mortification of= having a relative who looks like she models for Playboy on the quiet. Joking aside, Clark and I would really like to let Jimmy in on the secret= first, not to mention my mother. So if you could hold back on the gossi= p for a few days we'd appreciate it. Now back to business. I hear on the grapevine that you're having doubts about the size of payments to Jeffers and the rest. I'd agree with you here and Jimmy can check it out. We'd also like to find out about Donald MacDonald. So far all we've been= able to get are the usual publicity hand outs. This guy is a real myster= y and that usually means that there's something to hide. Any suggestions?= Lois PS: I almost forgot, Dan Scardino is tailing Harry Dow? I wonder why? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:52:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: OUATIM: Lois to Clark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Sweetheart, You'd be proud of me, honey. I just told Perry, Cat and Lucy about the newest addition to our family. I haven't talked to mother yet, just can'= t get up the nerve to bite that particular bullet. You do realise that she= is going to almost take up residence here. If you thought she was controlling before, you ain't seen nothing yet. Maybe we should just move house and forget to send her our new address. Clark, I've been trying to set up an interview with Donald MacDonald, discuss his views on the sorry plight of his competition, the Planet, bu= t I can't get past his PR department. He's more of a recluse than Gandell.= = Maybe I should camp out down at NTM headquarters. Or maybe we should foc= us on who we can tie down, Chemco Fireworks and Miss Harry Dow. Seems Scardino has been tailing her and if he's interested she has to be up to her neck in this. Got to go, sweetheart, I'm off to chase down Dan, find out what he knows.= = See you tonight. Love ya, Lois ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 18:32:53 CDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jessi Mounts Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Kathy said: >Whoa, whoa, whoa. Please, Jessi, you (and everyone else) are very >welcome to your opinion of nfic (or in your case, what you think your >future opinion might be ), but please don't imply that "nfic" and >"stories with plot" are mutually exclusive. There are plenty of fanfics >that *happen* to be rated R or NC-17 with plot (a-plot or b-plot), just as >there are many G or PG rated fanfics that have no plot whatsoever. > Nope, guess I wasn't making sense. Or at least not making the point I was trying to make. I didn't mean to imply in any way at all that nfics don't have plots. I never thought that was true. If I did, then I wouldn't write to nfic writers asking (begging?) them to convert their stories to PG13. And the PG13 stories I've read that were once nfics certainly had plots, and great ones. I'm getting the impression that there's tons of other nfics out there with wonderful plots that can't be or haven't been converted to PG13. I've got this rapidly growing list in my head of the ones I'm going to read the day I turn eighteen. I think I'll shut my little brother out of the room, and spend half the day reading. What I probably won't be reading, though, are many of the nfics without plots. I understand that there are beautifully written ones, and I'll probably be reading some of those, but I doubt I'll want to read a whole lot of them. I already do the same thing now with revelation stories. At least half of my favorite fanfics do have a revelation in them, and I would never want it any other way, but I don't usually read fanfics with no plot other than "Lois finds out Clark is Superman." There's always exceptions, but usually that's how it is for me. I'm getting the feeling that was just more confusing than my first post, but it was worth a try. Jessi jessi914@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 21:46:07 -0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: PrincesAzul Organization: Prodigy Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Everyone, This weekend I was Channel surfing when I saw a younger looking Teri Hatcher. I stayed on the channel until I finally figured out what movie it was. The movie was SoapDish. Just thought i'd share that. Wendy "We can be whatever we desire to be but if we don't keep in mind where we came from or take pride in our roots and heritage we are no one." -Wendy Silva a.k.a 'PrincesaAzul' ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:07:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: OUATIM: Lois to Lucy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Debbage wrote: > > Hi Auntie Lucy, > > Yes it's true! Can you believe it? Lucy we have to get together and have > a long talk, but I wanted to let you know. I haven't told mother yet but I > know I have to just do it. Her reaction scares me, she's going to go > crazy. > > Clark is thrilled and I'm getting over my shell shock. > > Talk to you soon, > > Love Lois The people who wrote S5 talked about this very issue when we were writing about Lois' pregnancy in that universe -- who should be told and when. I can only imagine what Ellen would think if she discovered that Lois told Clark's parents, her boss, her sister, and even a co-worker who, up until only recently, she disliked before she told her mother about her pregnancy. I'm sure Ellen would be very hurt and she should be. Pray she doesn't find out. (Don't pay attention, person playing Ellen.) Sandy smcdermin@erols.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:46:24 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/04/1999 2:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU writes: << Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run down of the ep, character names, etc, be provide >> Yup. ;) --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 22:53:54 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lori McElhaney Subject: Re: NKerth 99 Update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/1999 3:50:15 PM Central Daylight Time, kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM writes: << Ah, but the actual ceremony is at 6 pm ET, so I can certainly understand why the decision to have the practice at that time was made. Pam already answered the question of why 6 ET for the awards themselves ... there just isn't a time that will please everyone, and this is the time that worked for most people. >> And here I was wishing it was later - That's 5 PM where I live ( I think I'm timezone challenged) - in the middle of cooking dinner - and kids running around - What cha' doing? I can't very well tell them, "well mom wrote these stories . . . What KIND of stories mom? ummm. . . - Mom are you STILL on the computer? I want to use the telephone etc. . Hopefully I'll be able to be there Lori (Wondering how to bribe the husband to leave with the kids for a few hours) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 20:57:45 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Public opinion on a teaser for The Black Circle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0185_01BF0EAB.1BD36AE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0185_01BF0EAB.1BD36AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, I've finished plotting out the sequal to Maggie, so I was wondering = it you peoples wanted me to post the first draft as I write it? Let me = know, ok? Tara (echoes of evil laughter) ----------------------- "Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek = IV: The Voyage Home "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" "Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" --crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" ------=_NextPart_000_0185_01BF0EAB.1BD36AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, I've finished plotting out the = sequal to=20 Maggie, so I was wondering it you peoples wanted me to post the first = draft as I=20 write it?  Let me know, ok?
 
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"Whoever = said the human=20 race was logical?"  Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: The Voyage=20 Home
 
"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" = "Is it a=20 plane?"
"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a = cape"
--crowd=20 scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark"
 

 
------=_NextPart_000_0185_01BF0EAB.1BD36AE0-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 23:37:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: NKerth 99 Update In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:53 PM -0400 10/4/99, Lori McElhaney wrote: >I can't very well tell them, "well mom wrote >these stories . . . >What KIND of stories mom? ummm. . . > - Mom are you STILL on the computer? I want to use the telephone etc. . > >Hopefully I'll be able to be there > >Lori >(Wondering how to bribe the husband to leave with the kids for a few hours) That's why I like to have these ceremonies announced as soon as possible, so I can make arrangements for privacy. This year, my husband is talking about taking our daughter to visit his family for the weekend, whereas last spring, for the regular Kerths, it was dinner at McDonalds and the park afterwards. Set it up now, Lori, even if it means figuring out a way to move the computer into the bedroom and bartering with your husband for the evening off. Maybe you can have a sleep over at your house this weekend, with the agreement the kids will go there on the 16th. ;) Kathy ("ok, honey, just how much time do I need to spend with the kids for them to be 100% your responsibility from 5-8 on Saturday?" ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 02:52:59 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: OUATIM: Lois to Ellen Lane MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Mother, Where are you? I've been trying to call you since last night. I really wanted to talk to you because what I have to tell you ought to have been done in person but you don't appear to be home and your cell phone is either switched off or the dead. You are OK? I know Clark and I asked you to investigate but, please Mother, you haven't done anything foolish? On with our news. And remember I have tried to reach you. I even asked Superman to check out your apartment when he was out on patrol. He came= to dinner last night and kindly gave us an interview for the Planet. = Clark wrote it up and it's good, mother, you should be sure to read it. Mother, Clark and I are having a baby. Don't you think that's wonderful= news. I'm fine really, just the usual minor ailments, morning sickness( though whoever named it 'morning' should be sued under the trade description laws) tiredness, and Clark says not to forget the mood swings= , though I think I'm coping very well. I only shout at him once a day. An= d he doesn't mind because he is just so happy about being a Daddy. Mom, please come and see us or get in touch. I'm starting to worry about= you. Maybe it's a hormone thing but I think I need a hug from my mother.= I love you, Lois ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:37:54 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: PJ Piasecki Subject: Re: Nfic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/3/99 10:42:24 PM Central Daylight Time, kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM writes: << And for the record, I've been equally disappointed (actually, much more diappointed, bordering on offended ;)) on the rare occasions I've come across someone who labels all G/PG fanfic as "boring" and claims to only have an interest in nfic. While they are entitled to their opinion, it makes *me* feel "cheap" to think they've read my work (if they have) just for cheap thrills. Kathy >> Don't let it bother you, Kathy. These are the folcs who will skim through a story to get to *those* parts, not realizing just how they fit into the entire narrative. Piper ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:38:17 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Cruise 2 pg.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Revealing Cruise, Part II. Pg. 1 Consequences=20 Summary=20 It's two weeks after the fateful cruise, and Lois and Clark, now more than just friends, must deal with the rampant gossip=20 which pervades the Daily Planet.=20 As always, comments welcome. I hope you enjoy reading it=20 as much as I enjoyed writing it. Daydreamer80 Cdfisler@aol.com SSSSSSSSSSSSS As Lois sat musing at her desk, her partner arrived at the=20 newsroom. As was customary, he walked over to the=20 coffeepot, poured both of them cups and walked back to=20 Lois's desk to bring her up to date on his progress on=20 their current investigations. At that moment, the right=20 elevator at the top of the ramp opened disgorging the three=20 Interpol agents. A smiling Willard spied Lois and Clark together at her desk=20 and called out, "Ms. Lane, Mr. Kent, we got them. The=20 whole cartel's been busted up and the ringleaders are all=20 under arrest in their own countries. The evidence you two=20 got while posing as honeymooners on the cruise ship made it=20 all possible." Everyone in the newsroom stopped and stared=20 at the Daily Planet's star reporters. Lois, Clark noted=20 his stomach plunging, had turned white. On the last night before the ship returned to port, Lois=20 had confided her fears to her now lover Clark. "What if=20 everyone finds out? I'll be a laughing stock all over=20 again - everyone will say I can't keep my hands off a man=20 I'm working with. Before we know it the partnership will=20 be dissolved and who knows what will happen with the=20 friendship. I like being your partner, Clark. I can't=20 take the chance that our being lovers destroys that." Soothingly Clark assured her: "Lois, no one will know. As=20 far as anyone at the Planet knows we were away on separate=20 assignments. I'll make sure Perry doesn't reveal our=20 whereabouts and the article we write wont mention the part=20 Lois and Clark played in getting the goods on the cartel." =20 Agent Willard had, in three short sentences, completely=20 ruined that plan and Clark turned nearly as pale as Lois=20 had. =20 =20 Perry White came out of his office and rushed the three=20 Interpol men as well as Lois and Clark into the conference=20 room and shut the door. "What the hell do you think you're=20 doing," he told an astonished Willard. "Our agreement was=20 no one was supposed to know about my reporters being on the=20 ship undercover." "But, Mr. White, we thought that only meant until the=20 cartel was destroyed," an embarrassed Willard responded. "You idiot, my reporters are investigators. If everyone=20 knows them, they won't be able to do their jobs not to=20 mention being in danger from every crook and petty criminal=20 in Metropolis." There was no way to explain to these=20 outsiders that his concern was really about Lois's=20 emotional vulnerability to gossip and innuendo, not his=20 team's exposure to physical danger.=20 "Mr. White, no one outside of the Daily Planet will learn=20 the identity of Karl and Lucy Jensen. Interpol can keep=20 secrets as well as you," Conners assured him. "Surely you=20 can make certain the real story doesn't leak out of your=20 newspaper building. We came by to give you the word that=20 Interpol has agreed that the Planet's exclusive can be=20 run." Mollified and with the damage already done in the newsroom,=20 Perry had no choice but to subside. After the Interpol=20 agents were ushered out, Perry told his reporters, "Lois=20 and Clark, we'll run the story in a special edition today. =20 Honey, this one may well win you that Pulitzer. It's=20 international news," he finished trying to comfort his=20 obviously distraught reporter. =20 "Sure, Chief. You do that," she told him before hurrying=20 from the room. =20 "Take care of her, will you, son?" Perry knew Lois better=20 than anyone, so he'd guessed what had taken place on the=20 cruise. Lois had been acting much too mellow and, dare he=20 say it, happy for the last two weeks. He'd been elated,=20 but refused to comment about whether something was going on=20 with his reporting team, knowing full well the effects=20 newsroom gossip would have on the fragile ego of Lois Lane.=20 "Clark, I want you to take Lois and keep her out of the=20 newsroom for the rest of the week, understand? I'll do=20 what I can to put an end to the gossip in the newsroom, but=20 it won't be easy." SSSSSSSSSSSSS With that Perry White sent the two of them out to=20 investigate increased teen gang violence on the south side.=20 Lois and Clark had to split up but they got some good=20 interviews, not the least of which was with the mother of a=20 young boy shot just before Lois and Clark arrived on the=20 scene. The child had been hit by a stray bullet during a=20 gang-related raid on a small grocery store in the area.=20 Lois stayed with the boy's mother, while Clark hurried off=20 to contact Superman. The Superhero arrived promptly and=20 took the youngster to the nearest hospital, where, thanks=20 to prompt medical attention, he was expected to make a full=20 recovery. Lois and Clark spent the next several hours=20 talking to south side residents, small business owners and=20 gang members, all of whom for once appeared willing to work=20 together to avert another near tragedy. Lane and Kent, her=20 partner promised the people they interviewed, would do=20 everything in their power to bring needed help to the area.=20 Using the Daily Planet as a sounding board, the reporters=20 forced the City to acknowledge that a problem existed. =20 Lois and Clark were asked by city officials to work closely=20 with all parties to ensure a fair and equitable solution=20 and they agreed. The subsequent three days of their week=20 were spent on that story, writing up progress that was=20 being made toward a resolution of the south side problem in=20 a continuing series that illuminated the plan and its=20 implementation.=20 At her desk on Friday afternoon, Lois sighed. That is she=20 spent the week on the plan to salvage the area. Her=20 partner was called away numerous times for shorter or=20 longer periods. After work, he disappeared completely. =20 Still when Clark managed to spend time with Lois, she found=20 it well worth the wait. The hesitant, 30-year-old virgin=20 that she'd made love to on the cruise ship had been=20 replaced by an eager, accomplished lover who seldom failed=20 to bring her to fulfillment. "I read a lot," her partner=20 smugly told a satisfied Lois Lane. SSSSSSSSSSSSSS Unfortunately, in spite of Perry's efforts and in contrast=20 to what he believed, the newsroom gossip about the cruise=20 ship investigation continued. Steve Nicholson, the new=20 intern actually grilled Clark during one of the latter's=20 rare appearances in the newsroom that week. Clark tried to=20 laugh the speculation off. =20 Saturday, after the story appeared in the Daily Planet,=20 Lois and Clark met at her apartment. "Clark, we have to=20 talk. I caught Lily in accounting saying to her coworker=20 Elizabeth that Steve Nicholson is telling everyone that=20 'his pal' Clark Kent surely made it with Lois Lane - with=20 me. He's giving out details that he supposedly got from=20 you, Clark." "Lois, Steve doesn't know anything. He's just guessing."=20 "Pretty detailed guessing, Clark." "Lois, I swear I never said anything to Steve Nicholson." Lois sighed. "I believe you Clark. For one thing, you've=20 been sticking like glue to me. Besides guys like Steve get=20 so caught up in their fantasies that eventually they=20 believe them to be true. The problem is that Steve's=20 guessing in this case is right on the mark." =20 "That doesn't give him the right to gossip. Lois I don't=20 care what any of them thinks. We'll just refuse to=20 comment. Without corroboration, the rumors will die out." "All right, but I guess we'd better be partners and=20 friends, but not intimates for a while." **Great, back on first base, ** Clark thought sourly, but=20 for Lois he'd do it. Lois could tell what her partner was thinking, so she=20 promised: "As soon as the rumors die down, we'll take this=20 relationship forward." Reluctantly, Clark nodded his agreement. SSSSSSSSSSSSSSS The following week, Lois noted that Superman seemed as busy=20 around town and the world as she and Clark were, a fact=20 that was evidenced by Clark's many Superman interviews. =20 The TV news and wire service reports about the Superhero=20 confirmed that the Superman was occupied almost constantly=20 over the next several days. Clark chasing after Superman=20 stories helped throw water on the gossip fires, so Lois=20 made it a point to work visibly without her erstwhile=20 partner. As the week wore on, something about that tugged=20 at Lois's awareness, but she pushed that line of inquiry=20 firmly back into her subconscious. Now was not the time=20 for it. She had a more pressing problem to deal with. The plan to disabuse everyone at the Daily Planet of the=20 notion that Lois Lane and her writing partner Clark Kent=20 had become lovers on the cruise ship had finally worked,=20 alas only too well. For the first three days of the week,=20 the writing partners projected a picture of a harmonious=20 working pair who were close personal friends but definitely=20 not sexually intimate. Lois thought ruefully **it was easy=20 for everyone to accept that based on the past perceptions=20 of the relationship between Clark and me. **=20 A sense of relief seemed to permeate the newsroom at the=20 new turn of events, perhaps one even hoped for by the=20 female staffers. Lois was once again accorded the=20 journalistic respect she had worked so hard for, with no=20 snide remarks about the long ago affair with Claude. It=20 wasn't until Thursday that Lois realized her partner wasn't=20 the recipient of similar approval. She'd been in the Planet's library studying archival issues=20 of the Daily Planet dating back to the time of the=20 incorporation of the south side into the borough of New=20 Troy. She needed to put a few finishing touches on her and=20 Clark's final piece on the previous week's series. Clark=20 was out again, but he'd written his half up early that=20 morning and told her where to find the copy on his machine=20 before he left. She'd told him she would combine the two=20 stories, then send the finished copy to Perry before=20 deadline. Clark had asked her if she wanted him to edit=20 her copy, but she declined: "I keep telling you, Kent. We=20 don't have to edit them ourselves. That's why we have copy=20 editors on the staff." Clark knew she was teasing him and=20 just grinned. A group of staff members came into the room, shutting the=20 door behind them. Before Lois, who was hidden behind some=20 shelves holding the older newspaper issues, could make her=20 presence known to the newcomers, Sam from distribution=20 piped up with "Doris in the steno pool told me none of them=20 are any longer even remotely interested in Kent and his=20 tight buns. She and I are kind of involved right now," he=20 admitted sheepishly. "Well," Nicholson told the group: "The guy had the chance=20 of a lifetime to come on to Lane and apparently didn't act=20 on it. Lois Lane is beautiful, vivacious, funny, smart,=20 sexually experienced - what 'real man' wouldn't have at=20 least tried to score." =20 "Hey, guys, I've known Clark a lot longer than most of you=20 and I find that hard to believe. Maybe he just=85respects Lois Lane too much to try anything," Eduardo Riaz=20 interjected responding directly to Steve's nasty=20 insinuations.=20 "Sure=85" sneered Nicholson, "that's just what a woman wants=20 from the man she shares a cabin with for 7 days on a=20 romantic cruise - respect. She was probably angry with=20 him the whole time because he didn't try anything. We all=20 know that when a woman says no, she means yes." "Maybe he's gay," commented Jeff, another of the newer=20 interns, "maybe that's why he's the only guy who's ever=20 been able to work with Lane. With no sexual urges to=20 ignore, it would be easy to put up with Lois Lane's temper=20 to get the kind of stories working with her produces." "I don't believe that for a minute." Eduardo was defending=20 Clark but he seemed to be in the minority. Sounding puzzled, Jerry Rice from classifieds, who'd been=20 with the Planet longer than anyone else in the room=20 including Lois, pointed out: "Lane never wanted a partner=20 until Mr. White forced her into it. Maybe that's why she=20 was so hard on him at first." He shrugged. "If she found=20 out he had no sexual interest in her, maybe she=85" They were interrupted at that point by Perry White's=20 bellow, "In the conference room everyone, the budget=20 meeting's about to start." SSSSSSSSSSSSS Everyone scrambled for their desks, grabbed paper and pens,=20 and rushed into the conference room. Forced to wait until=20 she was sure no one would see her exiting, Lois was almost=20 the last to arrive. Perry greeted her with a sarcastic,=20 "nice of you to join us, Lois. And where's that partner of=20 yours this time?" "Ahh=85 he's=85 Uhh=85 I don't know where he is Chief," Lois admitted. Her mind just didn't seem to be=20 functioning right then. =20 "I'm here Chief," Clark called out, taking his customary=20 seat next to Lois. "Sorry, I'm late. I had to check with=20 a source across the river this morning. Metropolis traffic=20 was brutal on the drive across the tenth street bridge." He saw the distracted look on his partner's face. "Lois,=20 you all right?" he asked concern evident in his voice. =20 "F-fine. I-I'm fine," she assured everyone. Perry gave his star reporter an intent look, but she was=20 obviously not going to confide in him in this crowd. =20 "Well since everyone is here, let's get on with it. Mr.=20 Stern has been concerned lately with some of the expense=20 account items being sent across his desk lately." "But Chief, how are we gonna get the stories without having=20 adequate expense accounts?" Lois retorted indignantly, back=20 in comfortable territory once again. "Lois, I wasn't referring to you and Clark. Mr. Stern was=20 so pleased with the boost in circulation those articles on=20 the south side generated, he told me you two can go to=20 Tahiti for a story and he'll approve it." Lois paid scant=20 attention to the rest of the budget meeting, her mind=20 definitely elsewhere. After the meeting both Perry and=20 Clark tried to draw Lois out, but she wasn't forthcoming.=20 All that afternoon while Clark worked diligently at his=20 computer (**He really was out checking with a source this=20 time. **) she surreptitiously observed the rest of the=20 Planet staff as they interacted with her partner while=20 keeping a close eye on Steve Nicholson. She was=20 particularly incensed at Steve since she knew it was=20 Clark's recommendation that got him the job at the Planet=20 in the first place. "He's a good writer, Lois. He=20 shouldn't have to write for one of those sleazy rags you=20 hate." **A sleazy rag is just where he belongs, ** Lois=20 thought angrily. The news was not good. Steve continued his attack on Clark=20 and what's more he found eager listeners in the newsroom=20 and other parts of the building. Even Mr. Stern's=20 secretary, Elise Fairchild, found an excuse to come into=20 the newsroom and interact with Clark Kent. Lois followed=20 Elise to a nearby conference room where a group of female=20 employees had gathered. =20 There she overheard similar comments about her partner's=20 apparent lack of sexual propensity from the distaff side of=20 the newspaper's employees. Crystal Carter's saccharin=20 voice almost made Lois throw up when she intimated that=20 just because a guy has the right equipment, it doesn't=20 necessarily follow that he uses it. Bobbie Morton, whose=20 reputation around the Planet was less for her secretarial=20 skills and more for her easy morals, protested that it was=20 more likely that Lois had sampled the goods and the 'ice=20 maiden' had been the one unwilling to go further. =20 Blond Diane, airhead that she might be, at least tried to=20 defend Lois's partner. Diane, who'd been partnered with=20 Clark Kent during Lois's suspension over the apparent death=20 of a source, did make one comment that Lois found=20 enlightening. "Clark doesn't always understand how women=20 react, so he says the wrong thing because he's trying to be=20 'fair.' And that's the last thing that any woman wants." =20 But her arguments had been summarily dismissed by the rest. **Why are people always ready to listen to gossip and=20 accept false rumors and innuendo about others without=20 verification,** Lois Lane, who always checked her facts,=20 wondered. **Especially when it's none of their business,=20 ** she concluded angrily. Continued in Revealing Cruise Part II pg. 2 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:40:08 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Cruise 2 pg 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Revealing Cruise, Part II. Pg.2 Consequences=20 Summary=20 It's two weeks after the fateful cruise, and Lois and Clark, now more than just friends, must deal with the rampant gossip=20 which pervades=20 the Daily Planet=20 As always, comments welcome. I hope you enjoy reading it=20 as much as I enjoyed writing it. Revealing Cruise Daydreamer80 Cdfisler@aol.com SSSSSSSSSSSSSS It was late afternoon when Lois said to her best friend:=20 "Clark, can we talk? Some place where we can't be heard or=20 seen." "Sure, let's take the elevator up to where we store the=20 older archives." He'd observed Lois looking at him and=20 prowling around the Daily Planet that afternoon and he knew=20 his partner well enough to know she had an agenda. **Maybe=20 she'll tell me what's bothering her. **=20 As soon as they shut the door to the small microfilm=20 library behind them, Lois told Clark what she'd learned=20 that day. "Clark, we have to stop this before it goes any=20 further." "Lois, listen to me. Steve Nicholson's not ready to give=20 up his suspicions about what happened in the cabin, but he=20 can't shake either one of our denials. He's becoming=20 desperate to focus the attention of the gossips away from=20 his 'erroneous conclusion,' a conclusion I might add that=20 he had no business making and particularly no right to=20 spread around. The trouble is if we react to this latest=20 allegation, it'll only backfire on you. Everyone will=20 conclude that Steve's original supposition was correct. =20 Let it go, baby. I don't care what any of them think, I=20 told you that." "But, Clark=85" "No, buts about it sweetheart," Clark said trying to be=20 firm. =20 Lois's jaw tightened in response. Knowing logical=20 arguments were not going to work this time, she used=20 emotional blackmail. "Clark, do you trust me?" She=20 looked him straight in the eye, leaving him with no option=20 but to nod affirmatively. "Implicitly, Lois," he groaned knowing full well he'd lost=20 this battle. **I didn't even get the chance to put on my=20 sparring gloves, ** he thought wryly. "Good!" Lois gave him one of her brilliant smiles and all=20 thoughts of opposing her flew away faster than Superman=20 could make it around the world. Lois put her arm around=20 her partner's waist and told him about her plot. "I'm=20 gonna go back to the newsroom and get ready to leave. I'll=20 send our story to Perry and wait until he approves it. =20 Then I'll clear off your desk and turn off your computer." She'd been doing that for several months now, because he=20 was often called away to do Superman things during the=20 afternoon and didn't return to work until the next day. =20 With all night to plan his cover story, he was able to=20 think up plausible excuses for his absences and, since he=20 often brought back exclusive Superman stories complete with=20 quotes from the Superhero, she was amenable to her=20 partner's unexplained disappearances.=20 That is, she had been until recently. As they became=20 closer and spent more time together, he had to leave=20 practically in mid conversation. His spur of the moment=20 excuses too had been much less believable, and Lois often=20 became upset. =20 These last few weeks, however, he'd been pleased when she=20 turned completely around, and let him go without asking=20 where he was going or later where he'd been. She was even=20 covering for him at the Planet. "You don't have to tell me=20 unless you want to," she told him, "I trust you." **I've got to tell her I'm Superman, ** he thought **but=20 things were so hectic these past few weeks, it just never=20 seemed to be the right place and time. ** **Right, ** his conscience informed him. **So how come=20 every time you're interrupted, you feel relieved at not=20 having to 'talk.' Could it be because you're afraid to=20 tell her, afraid of how she'll react when she learns you've=20 been lying to her for almost two years, Mr. 'You can trust=20 me, Lois.' ** His conscience suddenly seemed to have=20 developed a sarcastic streak. Clark had been having this argument with himself for so=20 long, it took barely a second to complete and he was able=20 to agree promptly to Lois's further instructions. "Go=20 down the back stairs to the lobby and wait until fifteen=20 minutes have gone by, then take the elevator back to the=20 newsroom." "Lois, we're on the 25th floor. It'll take me that long to=20 walk downstairs." "All the better. I want you to come and pick me up," she=20 told him, "but not until it's close to deadline. Which is=20 in twenty-five minutes. Your coming into the newsroom at=20 that time is crucial to my plan."=20 "What happens next?"=20 "You'll see." She opened the door and checked to be=20 certain they weren't being observed. Then she gave him a=20 passionate kiss and left. SSSSSSSSSS As soon as she reached to newsroom, Lois LANed her part of=20 the series conclusion to Perry. Then she went over to=20 Clark's desk and began clearing it off. A note accompanying the story asked Perry to edit it=20 immediately because she and Clark wanted to leave for the day as soon as it was approved. Perry read the stories,=20 delight suffusing his face before he was half way through=20 the copy. Lane and Kent had done it again. A Kerth if he=20 ever saw one. Several pages later, his face fell. **What=20 the hell?** "Lois, Clark," he shouted as he came running out of his=20 office. "Get over here." "Clark's not here, Chief. I'm closing down his computer=20 right now." "Lois, the story's not finished. Where the heck is the=20 rest? It must be on Kent's machine," he told her almost=20 pushing her aside in his eagerness to get the story=20 together before deadline. "It's not there, Chief." It wasn't a lie. She'd moved=20 it off of Clark's machine and sent it to Perry as a=20 disguised file.=20 Perry insisted on scanning Clark's computer, but as Lois=20 had told him, the file wasn't there. "What the heck's going on here. Kent hasn't missed a=20 deadline in months." "Beats me, Chief," Lois said stalling. As she'd intended=20 everyone in the newsroom had heard the exchange, stopped=20 what they were doing and were watching their editor and his=20 star reporter. Steve Nicholson had a cat that ate the canary look on his=20 face. **Kent's gonna fry. Serves him right, ** he thought=20 not realizing how much he owed his current favor with Perry=20 White to Clark's support. **Maybe he decided to bail out=20 and go to work somewhere else already. I wonder if his job=20 will be up for grabs. I'd make Lois Lane a better partner=20 than he would anyway and I wouldn't let an opportunity like=20 the one on the cruise pass me by. ** Just as the clock on the wall struck a quarter to 4, the=20 elevator door opened and Clark Kent walked into the=20 newsroom. "Clark, where the hell is the finish to the=20 story you and Lois filed today?" "It's on my computer, Chief," he responded sounding=20 confused. "Lois, I thought you were gonna send it to=20 Perry," Clark asked innocently. "And I did. Perry, the ending's on your computer. The=20 file is called SSS4.doc. Just attach it to the rest and=20 you can send the whole thing on to layout. Clark wrote it=20 up so it shouldn't need any editing." "Lois, what's this all about?" Turning away from Perry to address all the onlookers at=20 once, she told them: "If everyone will give me their=20 attention, I'll explain." =20 SSSSSSSSSSSSS Lois walked purposely up the ramp to stand next to her=20 partner as every eye in the newsroom remained glue to her. =20 "Four weeks ago, Clark and I spent a week together in a=20 cabin on a cruise ship posing as honeymooners. The=20 evidence that Clark and I obtained resulted in the exposure=20 of an international ring engaged in the practice of=20 intercepting UN-provided medicines and reselling them on=20 the black market at grossly inflated prices. The story we=20 wrote put an end to that practice and ensured that needed=20 medicines would once again reach sick people in Africa and=20 South America. Our part in that story ended with its=20 publication in the Daily Planet but the repercussions of=20 that night didn't." "Lois honey, what are you talking about?" Perry asked. The=20 Daily Planet's Editor-in-Chief, along with Jimmy Olsen, had=20 been kept carefully out of the rumor mill and consequently=20 thought the whole mess had gradually faded away. Her gaze traveling slowly around the newsroom, Lois told=20 those watching: "Most of you know exactly what I'm talking=20 about. Let me emphasize here and now that what Clark and=20 I did or did not do in that cabin is nobody's business but=20 our own." Looking directly at Steve Nicholson, she=20 concluded angrily, "so stay out of my face, vulture boy." =20 To the rest, she stated in a more mild tone of voice, "many=20 of you have had field days over the past few weeks=20 gossiping about that cruise."=20 "Is that true?" Perry asked the assembled employees=20 angrily. Noting that a good percentage of the staff=20 present had the grace to look ashamed, he understood that=20 the rumors, rather than stopping, instead had grown for=20 almost two weeks. Fueled by the efforts of Steve=20 Nicholson, they now permeated the entire newsroom. =20 Consumed by white-hot anger, their Editor told everyone to=20 cease their conjectures right now or he'd fire the whole=20 lot of them. Steve looked positively sick, wondering if=20 the Metropolis Star had any openings, while Perry vowed=20 that he have the intern's resignation by the end of the=20 day. =20 "That incident is over and done with," Lois announced=20 loudly, regaining everyone's attention. "Neither Clark nor=20 I will comment on it again. You see I trust Clark and I=20 know he would never betray me. Now having said that and,=20 since the south side story is completed, Clark and I are=20 gonna leave for the day. And just so no one has the wrong=20 idea, Clark is and will remain my partner, my best friend=20 and - yes - my lover." She turned her back on the newsroom and gave Clark a long,=20 passionate kiss that he returned enthusiastically,=20 completely, forgetting that they were standing at the top of=20 the ramp overlooking a crowded Daily Planet newsroom. =20 There was silence for a moment, until Jimmy Olsen called=20 out "way to go, CK" and cheered. Others soon followed=20 until the majority of those in the room had erupted into=20 cheers and clapping, although the applause of some was less=20 spirited. Perry and Jimmy both grinned happily. As if to put an exclamation point on the event, a ping=20 announced the arrival of the elevator. Lois pulled out of=20 her partner's embrace and, grabbing him by the hand, pulled=20 him into the car and sent it down to the lobby. =20 Once the door closed and they were alone, Clark pulled the=20 stop button. "Lois, are you all right with this? No=20 matter what we say or do now, everyone at the Planet's=20 gonna be certain that we made love in that cabin, that=20 Nicholson was right." He sighed: "You told them that." "Clark, it doesn't matter anymore. I've thought about it=20 and I no longer want to hide my feelings for you from=20 anyone." She grinned. "I kinda like seeing the envious=20 looks on the Planet's female staff." Clark returned the grin. "Well, for some time now, I've=20 enjoyed being the target of envy by the male staff who=20 still can't quite believe that Lois Lane would consent to=20 being partnered with a 'hack from Nowheresville.' I guess=20 I can't deny you the same opportunity no matter how=20 misguided those women are. I love you, Lois," he finished=20 in a soft whisper. "I love you, too. Come on, I've got big plans for tonight. =20 We have a lot more to celebrate then just the finish of the=20 south side series." "Oh?" "Uh, huh. First, you're taking me to Antonio's for dinner. =20 I already made the reservations. Then maybe we'll walk in=20 the park." Giving him a teasing smile, she finished with, "Unless you'd rather=85see the new Mel Gibson film." "Nah, dinner and that walk would be perfect, not too long=20 of a walk though. I'd like to return to your apartment for=20 that talk I promised you." Clark knew exactly what Lois=20 had in mind, and it wasn't a long walk in the park. **I=20 have to tell her now, tonight, before our relationship goes=20 any further, no more hedging, Kent. ** So why did that thought result in a feeling of sheer terror. **It's only because I'm afraid of her reaction to being lied to for two years, ** he reminded himself firmly. Continued in Revealing Cruise=20 Pt. III Disclosure. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:50:31 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Guy or Lesley Hilliard Subject: Re: Public opinion on a teaser for The Black Circle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01BF0EFD.EA658620" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BF0EFD.EA658620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please do, Tara.=20 Ladyhawke -----Original Message----- From: StarKitty To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU = Date: October 4, 1999 11:57 PM Subject: Public opinion on a teaser for The Black Circle =20 =20 Ok, I've finished plotting out the sequal to Maggie, so I was = wondering it you peoples wanted me to post the first draft as I write = it? Let me know, ok? =20 Tara (echoes of evil laughter) ----------------------- "Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star = Trek IV: The Voyage Home =20 "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" "Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" --crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BF0EFD.EA658620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Please do, Tara.
 
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Ok, I've finished plotting out the = sequal to=20 Maggie, so I was wondering it you peoples wanted me to post the = first draft=20 as I write it?  Let me know, ok?
 
Tara (echoes of evil = laughter)
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"Whoever said=20 the human race was logical?"  Gillian Taylor, Star Trek = IV: The=20 Voyage Home
 
"Look, up in the sky!" = "Is it a=20 bird?" "Is it a plane?"
"Nah, it's just some = guy in a=20 pair of tights and a cape"
--crowd scene from the pilot of=20 "Lois & Clark"
 

 
------=_NextPart_000_0024_01BF0EFD.EA658620-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 06:18:04 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: OUATIM: Harry Pollack to Perry White Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mr. White, I thank you for your words of encouragement. You wrote: >I have already noticed the difference at Ace Printing since your return, and >am optimistic that we can continue to forge a mutually satisfactory business >relationship. To that end, I would like to arrange a brief meeting with >you: I can be at your office tomorrow at either 8am or 4pm. Please confirm >which would be more convenient. Sir, to be quite honest with you, I'm not even sure if I can remember where my office is located! I usually spend most of my time next to the presses. Either time would be fine. When you come to the plant, simply give my name to the first worker you see; he or she will arrange a guide to lead you to me. I'll warn all the workers that you might be stopping by. I'm sure you will find the presses to be of great interest, but please use caution. Experienced workers often neglect to close the safety gates and it can be quite dangerous to get too close to the presses. I'm proud to say that there has never been an incident in all my years here in Ace Printing, but I have heard stories. Please keep a cautious distance. I look forward to speaking to you, and I await word from Ms. Lane and Mr. Kent on that interview. Sincerely, Harry Pollack ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 12:32:19 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark Kent to Harry Pollack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Dear Mr Pollack, My editor, Perry White, has suggested that I get in touch with you to arrange an interview based on your many years of experience in your current position. I would be grateful if you would let me know when it would be convenient to meet with you. It may well be my partner, Lois Lane, who conducts the interview. Yours sincerely, Clark Kent. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:00:17 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: OUATIM: Lois to Clark In-Reply-To: <199910041852_MC2-879E-9A8E@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi honey, I'm glad you're telling people. Me, I'd shout it from the rooftops... but I know we need to be careful. You know, I think I'll set up that appointment with Bernie Klein. About your mother - well, I guess mine will be the same, so how could I complain if Ellen wants to visit a lot? We'll handle her together. And once she sees how much we love each other and how much we're going to love our baby, she'll stop fussing. Or I'll make her . > Clark, I've been trying to set up an interview with Donald MacDonald, Good for you. Keep trying, okay? Maybe Perry can pull some strings. Or... you know, we might have another way in. Remember I told you about the foreman at the Star's print plant? I only discovered the other day, when he came back from vacation, that it's Harry Pollack. *Superman* knows him. He wants to give us an interview, though I'm not sure why, and my reporter's instinct is asking whether he has something he wants to tell us. Anyway, I need you to handle that one, honey - I can't take the chance that he might recognise me. He's never seen Clark Kent before. > Or maybe we should focus > on who we can tie down, Chemco Fireworks and Miss Harry Dow. Seems > Scardino has been tailing her and if he's interested she has to be up to > her neck in this. > My guess is we need all of them. Chemco's definitely tied in to it somehow, but I can't find out anything from the outside. The plant here has too much old lead piping. You take it easy, sweetheart. I won't be late tonight. Love you both, Clark. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:08:11 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Perry In-Reply-To: <015d01bf0eaa$ae34fa80$a89501d4@MFUK.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi Chief! Glad you liked the Superman interview. I told you he had a lot he wanted to get off his chest - I think it helped him too. > You know, you and he seem to have a lot in common. His outrage at the > bombing aftermath sounded so much like you that I almost forgot I was > reading his words and not yours. I guess you two must chew the fat about > these things a lot. When we can, Chief. It's not always easy. But remember, I was out in Taiwan and Indonesia with him - you know he offered to take me when he assisted the UN in the East Timor talks. So we spent a lot of time together when he wasn't working. And I guess he doesn't get a lot of opportunity to talk honestly about how he feels. I've written to Pollack to set up the interview. If I didn't know from Superman that the man's trustworthy, I'd be suspicious. As it is... I'm wondering if he knows something and wants to tip us off. > Ha! She got you on the run, son? Um... well, you know Lois! But you know, Chief, I never knew how hard this stuff is on women. I keep finding her throwing up, and that can't be good for anyone. And all the books say is that it'll go away in time. I just feel so helpless... did you feel like that when Alice was pregnant? Hope you got your encryption software sorted out. I may have another exclusive coming soon, and that one will be sensitive. Talk to you later, Clark. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:39:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: OUATIM: Lois to Ellen Lane MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sandy mentioned how hurt Ellen would feel to be so far down the "to be notified" list, and then Jenni, as Lois, wrote: > Mom, please come and see us or get in touch. I'm starting to worry about > you. Maybe it's a hormone thing but I think I need a hug from my mother. Good recovery, Lois! -- ------------------------------------------------------- Pam Jernigan | jernigan@bellsouth.net ChiefPam on IRC | ------------------------------------------------------- "Well, it just so happens that I am a former girlscout." "Good. Because I am a strange visitor from another planet." Lois & Clark, "Ordinary People" ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:05:31 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Cruise pt 3 pg 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per your request, here are the final parts to=20 Revealing Cruise. Revealing Cruise, Part III. Pg.1 Disclosure=20 Summary=20 After leaving the Daily Planet=20 Lois and Clark head out to dinner To celebrate their=20 now public commitment, but things don't work out=20 exactly as planned. As always, comments welcome. I hope you enjoy reading it=20 as much as I enjoyed writing it. Revealing Cruise By Daydreamer80 Cdfisler@aol.com SSSSSSSSSSSSS But it hadn't worked out that way. They were driving to=20 the restaurant when the car radio reported that a major=20 earthquake had struck Mexico City. **Please, no, ** Clark=20 implored whoever might be listening. Apparently no one was, because when they were inside the=20 crowded restaurant waiting for their table to be cleared,=20 someone turned on the TV over the bar. CNN was reporting a=20 desperate appeal for Superman's help to clear the debris so=20 those trapped could be freed and taken to area hospitals. =20 Lives were at stake, and Clark couldn't ignore that plea not=20 even for Lois. He had to help. "Lois," he told her, his eyes begging her to trust him, "I=20 have to leave." He didn't even try to make an excuse, what=20 explanation could he give her that she would believe, and=20 telling her the truth was not possible either in so public=20 a setting. Anger flared in Lois's eyes, then was immediately squashed. =20 She turned to the waiter and said: "Giovanni, we've changed=20 our minds. Please give our reservations to someone else." =20 Without a word to her partner, she headed for her jeep. =20 "Do you want me to drop you off somewhere on the way back=20 to my apartment?" she asked in a dead voice. Clark only shook his head mutely. Before reaching the=20 Jeep, Lois allowed Clark to see how badly he'd wounded her,=20 turning hurt-filled eyes on her partner. Clark's heart was=20 breaking as he suggested: "M-maybe I could come over later =85 you know=85after I get done=85." His voice trailed off as=20 Lois's face became closed off, remote.=20 "No, I'm kinda tired. I think I'll turn in early." She=20 climbed into the jeep and drove off. Lois was a skillful=20 driver with excellent reflexes - which was a good thing=20 because she normally drove aggressively, often pushing the=20 speed limit. No matter how urgent the need for Superman's=20 help, Clark had to make certain Lois got home safely. He dashed into a nearby alley and spun into the Superman=20 suit. Despite her obvious upset, Lois took off slowly and=20 carefully, as Clark anxiously watched from overhead, and=20 somehow that frightened him more than anything else had. =20 Superman headed for Mexico City at a speed no normal human=20 being could tolerate. The damage to the Mexican Capital=20 was much more extensive than expected, and he was kept busy=20 until well into Friday afternoon. Lois, meanwhile, headed for her bed, not even pausing for a=20 bite to eat, and cried herself to sleep. Her sleep was=20 restless, plagued by strange dreams involving her partner=20 and Superman, but she was unable to recall any details the=20 next day. SSSSSSSSSSSSS In the morning, Lois Lane dressed especially carefully, put=20 on slightly more makeup than she normally wore to cover up=20 lingering traces of the night in her still red and puffy=20 eyes, and headed for the Daily Planet. Clark was nowhere=20 to be seen. =20 As she sat staring at her computer screen trying to project=20 a cool, collected image instead of the misery she was=20 feeling inside, Diane came over and greeted her cheerfully. =20 "Hi, Lois. Where's that handsome partner of yours? You=20 two must have had a wonderful time last night."=20 "Huh?" Lois tried to pull herself back to reality. "You know, at the celebration. Sure wish I could leave at=20 4 and with a gorgeous=85. Well never mind. Where is Clark? =20 Perry's been asking." "Oh, he's=85." At a loss, Lois eyes caught sight of the=20 newsroom monitors reporting on Superman's continuing=20 efforts at the site of the earthquake in Mexico City. "He=20 took a red-eye special to Mexico City last night=85to-to=20 follow Superman's progress there." "Lois, that's wonderful. Perry will be thrilled. Mr.=20 Stern's been telling him the Daily Planet needs more=20 international coverage. I'll go tell him...unless=20 you'd rather." "No-no. That's fine. You tell him. I have some research=20 to catch up on." **Now where did that come from? ** Lois=20 wondered as Diane walked off. **Of course Clark does seem=20 to get more than his share of Superman exclusives. I=20 wonder how he manages that. ** She did have something to=20 research - where Clark Kent runs off to. **Lois Lane,=20 you're an investigative reporter, so investigate! ** Thoughtfully, she jotted down the dates and times when=20 Clark had pulled one of his disappearing acts over the last=20 few months. When she had a goodly number, she called out:=20 "Jimmy. Take this list and cross-reference it against=20 Superman activities." "Lois, I thought you and Clark=85" "Jimmy, Superman is still news even if I'm no longer=20 infatuated with him." She couldn't help the blush that=20 suffused her face though. "Just do it," she told him=20 angrily. "I'm on it." He was back in fifteen minutes. "Lois, are=20 you psychic or something? Every one of those dates you=20 gave me correlates to a major Superman activity." Lois just stared dumbfounded for a moment.=20 "That must be some story you're working on, huh?" He was=20 hoping she might ask him to help with it. "No-no Jimmy, thanks. That's all I need," Lois finally=20 managed. Realizing she'd better divert his attention, she=20 scanned his list and then told him, "No, there's no story=20 here. Clark gave me that list to do a retrospective on=20 Superman, but it's not really panning out."=20 "Okay, but if you and Clark do decide to do a story, I'll=20 be glad to do any research, take accompanying pictures -=20 you know." "Right, we'll let you know," she had to promise. **As if=20 there's even gonna be a Lane and Kent by-line after today.=20 ** Gradually, as Lois mentally examined the clues that had=20 been staring her in the face for so long, she accepted the=20 incredible revelation. Clark Kent, her partner and best=20 friend, was Superman. =20 Lois spent the succeeding hour wrestling with conflicting=20 emotions. Anger played a part early on, anger at Clark for=20 lying to her, for keeping a secret from her for so long. =20 She experienced elation too at the incredible secret that,=20 she was certain, she alone of all the people in world,=20 except Johnathan and Martha Kent, was a party to. =20 Then there was embarrassment. She was Lois Lane, star=20 investigative reporter for the greatest newspaper in the=20 world. How could a farm boy from Kansas have misled her=20 for so long - with nothing more than a pair of glasses? =20 No, it was much more complicated than that. Clark's voice,=20 his whole manner changed when he became Superman. Clark=20 Kent was warm, friendly, someone you could share Chinese=20 takeout with while working on a story. Superman was=20 aloof, distant, yes alien; you might work with him on a=20 disaster or a criminal investigation, but afterward you'd=20 expect him to fly off somewhere exotic, not enjoy a=20 relaxing game of chess with you. But most of all she felt hurt. **He lied to me! ** He told=20 her he was trustworthy, that she could trust him, and all=20 along he'd been playing her for a fool. **What did you=20 expect from an alien who probably doesn't even know what=20 hurt and anger feel like, how they can twist you all up=20 inside. ** He hadn't trusted her enough to tell her the=20 truth about himself. **Maybe he had good reasons for not=20 telling you, ** a more rational voice inside her head=20 pointed out. =20 **Don't go there, Lane, ** she told herself. **You're the=20 one who was betrayed. ** She had to get out of here. If=20 she was still here when he returned, she was afraid her=20 temper would get the better of her and she would betray his=20 secret. **No - that would be disastrous, ** she thought,=20 **Superman's secret has to be kept. The world needs=20 Superman. ** Wryly, the thought intruded, **At least he had=20 good reasons for all those times he ran off. **=20 She had to leave before Clark got back from Mexico City. =20 Checking the monitors and seeing that he'd probably be tied=20 up for a few more hours, she set her mind to the task of=20 getting away from him. **How do you hide from a man with=20 X-ray vision? You don't, but Superman is nothing if not=20 ethical. ** She knew that if she told him in no uncertain=20 terms to leave her alone, he'd be compelled to do just=20 that.=20 Lois spent the next half-hour on her computer, carefully=20 composing a 'Dear John' letter to Clark. She told him that=20 she knew his 'secret,' - she wasn't gloating she tried to=20 tell herself. She was explicit in relating how much he'd=20 hurt her, and commanded that neither Clark nor Superman try=20 to follow her. He, whether as Clark or the Man of Steel,=20 was no longer welcome in Lois Lane's apartment, and she no=20 longer cared to hear anything that he had to say to her. =20 In spite of the fact that she wanted her letter to indicate=20 an end to her relationship with him, she had to assure him=20 that she would never reveal his secret to another. **The=20 world needs Superman, ** she sighed. **That's all that=20 last is about. ** So affected was she by her own words, that she had to brush=20 moist tears from her eyes several times when no one was=20 looking her way. She passworded the finished file, saved=20 it to floppy disk, then placed the disk in a 'For Eyes- Only' envelope along with added cryptic instructions for=20 retrieving the file. She placed the envelope in her=20 partner's - **ex-partner's ** she reminded herself - inbox. =20 **Only one more thing to do, ** she thought, despair=20 settling on her like an old, familiar blanket, as she went=20 to talk to Perry White about taking the rest of the weekend=20 off.=20 After closing the door so they couldn't be heard in the=20 newsroom, Perry exploded. "Lois, what the Sam Hill is this=20 all about? You and Clark left early yesterday, he's in=20 Mexico City today and you want to leave? Honey in this=20 business you're only as good as the next story. You know=20 that! You and your partner=85" Lois interrupted him at that point with the stunning=20 statement that "we're not partners anymore, Chief." "What are you saying, Lois? I thought yesterday that you=20 and he were...you know a couple." "Yeah, well things change, sometimes when we least expect=20 it. Perry, I might as well tell you. I'm thinking about=20 looking for another job, maybe in DC or on the West Coast,=20 or even Europe." "Is this because of those rumors about you and Clark? I=20 meant it when I said I'd fire the whole lot of them if they=20 persist." "No, this is different. Perry, I can't talk about it. =20 Please, I want to go home." She sounded like a lost little=20 girl and Perry vowed that no one, including Clark Kent,=20 would drive her away from the Daily Planet. "Sweetie, take all the time you need. Go home and think=20 about what you'll be doing, throwing away all those years=20 of hard work it took to get where you are. Honey, I don't=20 want to lose you," Perry told Lois, taking her into his arms=20 and patting her awkwardly on the back. "Thanks, Perry." She said nothing more. There was no way=20 she could really tell him what the problem was, and Lois=20 was angry at knowing Superman's true identity because it=20 isolated her from her friends and coworkers. Continued in Revealing Cruise=20 Pt. III pg. 2 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:07:47 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Cruise pt 3 pg 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Revealing Cruise, Part III. Pg. 2 Disclosure=20 Summary=20 After leaving the Daily Planet=20 Lois and Clark head out to dinner To celebrate their=20 now public commitment, but things don't work out=20 exactly as planned. As always, comments welcome. I hope you enjoy reading it=20 as much as I enjoyed writing it. Revealing Cruise By Daydreamer80 Cdfisler@aol.com SSSSSSSSSS Back at her apartment, Lois locked her front door and both=20 living room windows as she had told Clark/Superman she=20 would, then sat down to wait for the inevitable phone call. =20 Surprisingly, it didn't come until almost quitting time at=20 the Planet. She let the answering machine pick up. "Hi, Lois, it's me, Clark," he began, his voice thick with=20 sorrow. "I retrieved your file with the letter."=20 **Well that pretty much verifies everything, ** Lois=20 thought. She'd used the Superman password, she told him,=20 the one she told to the leader of the men who held her,=20 along with Clark, Perry, Jack, and Lex Luthor, captive in=20 the Daily Planet offices one weekend so long ago. 'No one=20 who was locked in the conference room on the other side of=20 the newsroom could possibly have heard it, but I'm sure=20 with your 'unique' hearing abilities you did,' she'd=20 written. She remembered thinking it was too bad you=20 couldn't actually type sarcastically. "I wrote up the Superman story for Perry. He told me you=20 were thinking about leaving. You don't have to do that=20 Lois - I'll go." Then he lost it. "Lois, I'm so sorry I=20 hurt you. I never meant to deceive you. It just seemed=20 like the closer we got, the more complicated everything=20 became. I only wanted=85. I wrote a letter of resignation=20 and gave it to Perry. He didn't open it but I'm sure he=20 knows what's in it." After a pause, he concluded. "Lois,=20 I love you. I'll always love you," he said before he hung=20 up.=20 SSSSSSSSSSS All afternoon, Lois's mind had churned with thoughts of Clark=20 and Superman. Visions of Clark running off filled her=20 senses, and so many stupid excuses echoed in her brain. And=20 they were stupid excuses, whether given hurriedly at the=20 time or the next day at work, excuses so ineffective no=20 accomplished liar would employ them. **So he's too honest=20 to lie effectively, ** that persistent voice inside=20 commented. **This is a flaw? **=20 **All right, he's basically honest, but he still lied to=20 me. He didn't trust me with his secret, ** she countered. **Do you really wonder why? ** The annoying little voice=20 prompted, and Lois remembered all the mean things she'd said=20 and done during the early months of their acquaintance. =20 She hadn't been someone you could trust in those days, she=20 admitted and, she blushed, she'd thrown herself at the=20 Superhero while ignoring Clark Kent. =20 No wonder Superman told her she didn't really know him,=20 that she might never know him. **Superman lives above us=20 and when we try bring him down here, we just end up showing=20 the worst sides of ourselves, ** she thought. Eventually,=20 Lois came to depend on Clark much more than the Superhero. =20 Clark Kent became her writing partner at the Daily Planet=20 and her best friend. =20 Gradually as the afternoon wore on and her anger=20 dissipated, Lois found herself remembering warm moments she=20 and her partner shared. Clark, not Superman, had been the=20 man she turned to when Barbara Trevino wanted to get rid of=20 Lois Lane. Even then, she and Perry had laughed at the=20 attempts of the mild-mannered reporter to bodyguard her,=20 but Lois had been grateful and allowed Clark to walk her=20 home afterwards. =20 "I wouldn't let that happen," he'd assured her at his apartment, after Kyle Griffin broke into her phone call from Perry and threatened to kill her. Comforted she'd fallen asleep on Clark's couch. She smiled as she thought about the vial of Metamide 5 that Clark had taken - stolen really. Together they'd broken that case and rescued the Smart Kids, who were hooked on the dangerous mind-accelerating drug. That wa= s=20 the first of many times he'd gone along with her, skirting the limits of legality to get the evidence they needed for a story, and to secure true justice. =20 Clark had always supported her, even when Ariana Carlin=20 created the double of her, and when she'd been suspended=20 from her job at the Daily Planet because of the supposed=20 death of a source. "We're partners," he'd told her when=20 she stole Mayson Drake's pager, and the Assistant DA=20 threatened to call both of them up before a grand jury. She wanted them to divulge the 'identity' of their source as to the whereabouts of the DA's witness against Top Copy Star and Intergang assassin, Diana Stride. "Whatever one of us does, the other takes responsibility for. That's what being partners is all about," he'd affirmed. =20 SSSSSSSSSSS Lois groaned when Clark hung up the phone after leaving his=20 message on her answering machine. "He says he loves me,=20 but he still lied to me." **So, he's not perfect. ** It=20 was the troublesome voice again. **If you really wanted=20 the perfect man, maybe you should have chosen Superman, not=20 Clark. ** **But they're the same person. How can I live without=20 Clark? ** She wailed. **Lois, Superman's an alien, probably the only one on Earth=20 with his powers, and that makes him a target. Remember=20 Trask, he wanted to kill Clark just because he's not human. =20 How many others, do you think, hate Superman and want him=20 dead? How many like Trask are out there gunning for both=20 Clark and Superman? Lois, you of all people should know=20 what those people are capable of. ** Yes, she did. Superman had almost died from Kryptonite=20 poisoning at the hands of Diana Stride. Lois had almost=20 lost them both, she now knew. She'd found Superman on the=20 floor of Clark's apartment. In the ambulance on the way to=20 the hospital, Superman explained that Diana Stride had=20 kissed him wearing Kryptonite-laced lipstick. He'd had to=20 enter the nuclear radiation chamber at Metropolis Power and=20 Light to burn out the Kryptonite that was in his=20 bloodstream. =20 Later, Clark had somehow managed to hold a joint press=20 conference with Superman to disprove Diana Stride's=20 allegations concerning the secret identity of the Man of=20 Steel. In spite of the conclusive evidence to the=20 contrary, the female assassin, in prison for life,=20 continued to assert that Superman was in reality Clark Kent=20 of the Daily Planet. The former TV host hated Superman, and that thought made Lois shudder. Lois, too, had been=20 suspicious for a time after the incident, but finally=20 decided she was mistaken. How could mild-mannered Clark=20 Kent be Superman? After the Superhero distanced himself from her, and she=20 found herself falling in love with her writing partner,=20 Lois had actually been relieved that she could put Superman=20 back up on the pedestal where he belonged. She didn't want=20 to be in love with a fantasy. She wanted an ordinary man,=20 one she could enjoy that occasional game of Chess with=20 after hours at the Daily Planet. She wanted Clark.=20 **Oh right, ** said the little voice inside. **Have you=20 forgotten that Clark allowed you to become lovers while you=20 still thought he and Superman were two separate=20 individuals? ** **What do you mean allowed? That decision was a joint one,=20 and it involved Clark. Superman has nothing to do with my=20 relationship, intimate or otherwise, with Clark Kent. I=20 stood by it in front of the entire Daily Planet, and I'll=20 stand by it in front of you, too, ** Lois retorted. **Oh, so now you're defending him, ** the voice asked, a=20 trifle sarcastically.=20 Lois realized she was indeed defending Clark, as the voice=20 made a last ditch effort. **You said yourself knowing=20 Clark's secret has put a barrier between you and everyone=20 else. Are you strong enough to love an extra-terrestrial,=20 to share his isolation, to share his responsibilities? **=20 The voice had taken on a serious tone now. **I tried to love Superman, but that was selfish cause he's=20 not just here for me, he's here for all of us. ** **And who's here for him? Clark or Superman, who does he=20 have? Who loves him? ** The voice concluded, posing, at=20 last, the real challenge. **I do! ** Lois's mind screamed. **Oh, God. What have I=20 done? ** =20 SSSSSSSSSS Lois called Clark's apartment but there was no answer. =20 Hanging up before his answering machine could pick up, she=20 next tried the Daily Planet. "Mr. Kent left for the day." =20 And later: "Mr. White? I'm sorry Miss but he's gone too." =20 **Humph, he doesn't recognize my voice. Must be the new=20 intern. ** Frantic, Lois tried Perry's new bachelor=20 apartment. He was there, but he had no idea where Clark had=20 gone. =20 She started to ask him if he'd seen anything on the news=20 about Superman, and stopped horrified. She'd almost given=20 Perry a clue to Clark's secret. Instead, she asked,=20 "Perry, you-you didn't open the envelope Clark gave you,=20 did you?" "No, Lois. I didn't." "Don't. Perry neither one of us is gonna leave the=20 Planet." "Does that mean Lane and Kent will be back in business?" "Absolutely," she assured him, "Clark and I will both be=20 there Monday." "Good, 'cause I've got a new assignment for you and that=20 partner of yours. Is that all, honey." "Yeah, and thanks Perry." As soon as she hung up, Perry took the envelope out of his=20 coat pocket and tore it into little pieces. "I'm not gonna=20 need this," he said happily. "Way to go, honey." There was still no answer at Clark's apartment, but the TV=20 pinpointed his current whereabouts. The Bessolo Blvd=20 Bridge had collapsed during rush hour. Superman had=20 reached the scene in time to rescue people from cars that=20 had been on the bridge when it collapsed, and had ferried=20 the most seriously injured to nearby hospitals. It didn't=20 appear there would be any loss of life, but the Superhero=20 was still busy clearing the massive traffic tie up that=20 resulted. Lois decided to wait for Clark as his apartment, so she=20 drove her jeep the back way avoiding the pileup. Superman=20 had secured his residence against burglars, but he'd=20 forgotten about the spare key to the patio door that he'd=20 given Lois months ago. She easily got into the locked=20 apartment. Sadly she noticed packing boxes scattered around the living=20 Room, but the bulk of Clark's possessions were still in=20 their usual places. Curiously, she looked for the globe,=20 - the globe that, she now knew, belonged to Clark Kent -=20 but it was nowhere to be seen. **And there's another=20 example of you accusing him unjustly, ** that inner voice=20 pointed out. =20 **I thought you were on my side now that you have what you=20 want, ** Lois retorted, and the little voice sulkily turned=20 silent. She was relieved at being unable to find a trigger to the=20 secret compartment where Diana Stride had found his=20 Superman suits, as he'd apparently secured that better from=20 prying eyes. **Yes, he's being more circumspect these=20 days, ** she decided, as she examined the rest of the=20 dwelling and saw that he'd invested in privacy drapes as=20 well as firmer inside locks on the doors and windows. =20 An hour later, when Clark still hadn't returned, the=20 emotional trauma of the day took its toll on Lois in the=20 form of sudden, extreme fatigue. Unable to stay awake, she=20 went into Clark's bedroom and lay down on his bed. She=20 soon fell into the first sleep she'd had since the night=20 before last that was undisturbed by troubling images of=20 Clark and Superman. To be continued in Revealing Cruise Pt. 3 pg. 3 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:10:28 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Cruise pt 3 pg 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Revealing Cruise, Part III. Pg. 3 Disclosure Summary After leaving the Daily Planet Lois and Clark head out to dinner To celebrate their now public commitment, but things don't work out exactly as planned. As always, comments welcome. I hope you enjoy reading it as much as I enjoyed writing it. Revealing Cruise By Daydreamer80 Cdfisler@aol.com SSSSSSSSSSS Finished cleaning up the mess on Bessolo Blvd, Superman flew back to his apartment about an hour after Lois feel asleep. So caught up was he in his own misery, he didn't hear the sounds of her heartbeat or her quiet respiration coming from his bedroom. After that earlier message to Lois (he just couldn't leave without saying goodbye, even if only to her answering machine) Clark had begun to pack but hadn't been able to keep his mind on the task at hand. Finally giving up, he sat on his couch and let the thoughts come. In his letter of resignation, he told Perry White he'd been offered the job of a lifetime, head of his own journalistic team in Bonn, Germany. There was no job, and Perry would know it, but for Lois's sake he'd accept the letter and pretend to believe the lie. **The last lie I'll ever tell Lois, ** Clark thought. Clark Kent, he'd decided, would be lost investigating a story about gun running in the Congo. He would keep his Superman persona so he could continue to help out, but Kent would be presumed dead. He'd build himself a fortress of solitude in the Arctic Circle to live in. **Strange, that's what I called my tree house as a kid, ** the irrelevant thought intruded. Without a secret identity for criminals to uncover and use against Superman, his parents would be safe. And with Clark Kent finally and irrevocably dead, Lois Lane wouldn't run into him at news functions, and would at last be free to pursue that Pulitzer minus the partner she no longer wanted, and had never needed. SSSSSSSSSSSSSS All his life, Clark Kent had dreamed of being normal, of doing the things that normal humans did, and most of all of having the kind of warm, loving relationship those normal humans enjoyed. He knew, of course, that he wasn't a 'normal human.' The Kents had told him he wasn't their natural son, and related the story of how they found him as an infant. Afraid that 'they' (Clark had no idea who they were, and Martha and Johnathan didn't elaborate) would someday come and take the child away, his parents impressed upon their little boy the need to hide those facts from others. Not old enough to understand what it all meant, Clark could only conclude there was something shameful about being him. As he grew and developed abilities unlike those of other children, his parents' cautions became increasingly more urgent, until young Clark Kent prayed that, like the wooden puppet in the story that his mother used to read to him, somehow, someway he'd turn into an ordinary human boy. That dream was shattered when he was 8 years old. Smallville's Eisenhower Elementary School was having tryouts for a juvenile football team. It was Clark's turn to kick and, filled with youthful enthusiasm, he took his best shot, as his dad had always told him to do. The football went high into the sky and disappeared at the end of the field. The coach assumed the ball had fallen to the ground behind some trees, and was astonished at the child's prowess. Clark had experienced instances in which his future powers manifested for short periods when he was excited, so he was able to follow the football's progress into outer space. Frightened, Clark started to cry and ran over to hide his eyes in his anxious mother's lap. Unable to locate the ball or understand the reason for the child's tears, the puzzled coach gently told the little boy's mother "perhaps he's not ready for team sports yet. Maybe in another year or so." After that initial disaster, Clark avoided sports as well as any kind of physical contact, including fighting, all through elementary and high school, preferring to spend his time on pursuits in which he didn't stand out from the rest, like school debates and chess tournaments. When the school bullies hit on the little fellow for not joining any 'real men's' games, Pete Ross, a Smallville boy about a year older and already a tough fighter took Clark's part, making it known that anyone tormenting the younger boy would answer to him. The two subsequently developed a close friendship, a friendship that didn't end even after they both left Smallville and went their separate ways, Clark to Metropolis, and Pete to Washington, DC. But Clark had known that he would never be like other children when his dream of being normal died on an elementary school football field in Smallville, Kansas in 1974. The second dream, the more important of the two, he'd kept until today. In contrast to Lois Lane, Clark Kent grew up in a secure home, with parents who loved each other as well as their unusual child. If he had few close friends, those he did make during his childhood - including Pete Ross, Lana Lang and Rachel Harris - were sufficient. When he got older and had to hide more of himself, he also became better at concealing those differences, so, while his friendships still tended to be somewhat shallow, he did have them, and was content with his life. Content that was except in one area. Clark Kent yearned for someone to love and a marriage such as his parents enjoyed. He longed to find a companion with whom to share his life and his secret. For a while, Martha Kent hoped that Lana Lang would be that person, but somehow the spark wasn't there for Clark. Martha suspected that was because Lana didn't share Clark's great need to help those less fortunate. She was honest and kind enough, but she wasn't dedicated to making the world a better place the way Martha's unusual son was. Clark himself was beginning to doubt he would ever fall in love. Perhaps he just wasn't capable of the emotion. By the time Clark was 27 years old, he'd traveled all over the world, and had used his powers in limited ways to rescue people in danger, moving on whenever he made one of his frequent 'mistakes' and witnesses would begin to look askance at him. Then he went to Metropolis, interviewed with the Editor-in- Chief of the Daily Planet and met Lois Lane. "Clark Kent, Lois Lane," Perry White introduced them offhandedly before telling Clark: "I have nothing for you, son." "Pleased to meet you," Lois responded, not even looking at him, but Clark looked at her and, for the first time in his life, was instantly captivated. He had to get that job, so he did, by writing an unsolicited mood piece on the razing of an old theatre on 42nd Street. By the night of Lex Luthor's White Orchid Ball, Clark had fallen hard and fast for the beautiful reporter. Unfortunately, Lois fell equally hard and fast but not for Clark Kent - for Superman. "Oh, Clark, he is the most magnificent figure of a man," Lois told him. "Should I be jealous," he asked half in jest. "Pul...lease...," she said as they left the newsroom to cover a drive-by shooting. But jealous he did become, as Lois continued her infatuation with the Man of Steel and ignored Clark Kent. Over the next year and a half, Clark experienced. or had been the recipient of, every known emotion a man in love could have. He hadn't, he knew, acted appropriately all the time, sulking for example after Lex Luthor had supposedly rescued Lois from the clutches of fight promoter and killer, Max Menken, ahead of Superman. **Face it, Kent. You did horn in on her story when she went undercover at the Metro Club. Lex Luthor didn't blow Lola Dane's cover, you did. ** He was mortified by the memory. **I was afraid of what Lex might do once he got control of Lois, ** he thought, trying unsuccessfully to justify those deeds. **Let's not even go into my actions when I was in the Superman guise, ** he told himself. Supposedly trying to make her appreciate Clark Kent, he'd been unable to hide Superman's feelings for the star reporter of the Daily Planet until after Lois Lane became known far and wide as 'Superman's girlfriend.' Finally aware of the danger Lois was in due to the Superhero's attentions, he suddenly stopped seeing her as Superman, and pushed her toward Clark Kent. Lois was badly hurt by Superman's (**your's Kent, ** said a self-satisfied voice intruding into his reflections) rejection of her love, though she didn't know then that it was Clark who was responsible. **But I wanted her to love me, Clark Kent, not the Superhero. ** Clark persevered and, in spite of all their problems, Lois finally turned to Clark. He sighed. The closer he and Lois became, the more he was forced to lie to cover his frequent and sudden absences for Superman duties. Lois was convinced he was afraid of commitment, and tried to help him overcome that obstacle to their growing relationship. **When that very commitment is just what I've wanted all my life, ** he thought. He'd been afraid to tell her he was Superman, afraid she'd hate him for lying to her, but Lois had figured it out on her own, and now he had his answer. She had no place in her life for someone who treated her that way. **That's not it, ** the voice inside his head told him. **And you know it! Lois would stay mad for a while about being lied to, but sooner or later she'd forgive you. No, the real reason - the reason you're certain she'll never want you back - is much worse because it's something you can never change. That's why you've been so afraid to tell her you're Superman. ** Just then he heard desperate cries for help, a bridge collapsing, people screaming. As he flew out the hidden window at the back of his apartment, he heard the voice say smugly **And that just proved my point. ** SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS The whole time he was performing his rescue operations at the Bessolo Blvd Bridge, his mind was dwelling on the implications of what the voice had told him. Yes, he finally admitted, he had known what the problem was; it was the simple, undeniable fact that he, Clark Kent, was Superman. He was the only one on Earth with his powers, powers that could save lives, avert disasters, protect honest citizens from the criminal element and fight for 'truth, justice, and the American way.' If only he were...oh a very busy, very strong...doctor, there might have been a chance for a normal life, but in a world with a million doctors to share the physicians' burdens, there was only one Superman. If Superman didn't answer a call for help, no one else would or could. That was why his personal life, his emotional needs, and - yes - Lois had to take second place to the duties of the Man of Steel, when they involved the possible loss of human lives. He knew it and, now that she knew his secret, Lois would see it too. He couldn't blame her, he thought, glancing down at the Super suit he still had on. Lois had the right to come first with the person she gave her heart to. Sam Lane had deserted his daughter for his work when she was a teenager. When he tried to come back into her life 15 years later, she'd told him in no uncertain terms how much he'd hurt her. How could Clark expect her to put up with that same kind of treatment from him? **But I'd never leave her for good, I'd always come back. I love her, and I need her so much. ** **It's her decision and she's decided she doesn't want you, ** the voice, for the first time sounding sympathetic, reminded him. **You have to respect that decision. ** It had happened just as he'd dreaded. Now that Lois knew his secret, he'd lost her; he'd lost everything. He looked around the room as if he were lost in some exotic wasteland. Both his dreams, all his hopes - now crushed beyond recovery - seemed to be strewn around that vast emptiness like the unfilled packing boxes in his apartment. He sank slowly to the floor, pulled his knees up to his chest, and wept hopelessly. To be concluded in Revealing Cruise Pt. III pg. 4 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:16:09 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Cruise pt 3 pg 4 conclusion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Revealing Cruise, Part III. Pg. 4 Conclusion. Disclosure=20 Summary=20 After leaving the Daily Planet=20 Lois and Clark head out to dinner To celebrate their=20 now public commitment, but things don't work out=20 exactly as planned. As always, comments welcome. I hope you enjoy reading it=20 as much as I enjoyed writing it. Revealing Cruise By Daydreamer80 Cdfisler@aol.com SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Lois was awakened by the sound of crying. Silently she got=20 off the bed and followed the sound to Clark's living room. =20 Clark - no Superman - was sitting on the carpet in front of=20 the couch. His head was in his hands, and he was crying=20 brokenheartedly. "Clark," she called out softly. He lifted his head, hastily brushed away the tears, and=20 choked out: "Lois, what are you doing here?" Before she=20 could respond, a frightened look crossed Clark's face as he=20 swept the apartment with his X-ray vision. =20 "It's okay, Clark," she promised, "I'm here alone." "Oh, that...that's good, Lois." Lois crossed the room=20 and sat down next to Clark. =20 "So why are you here?" he asked miserably, "to...to say=20 goodbye? You didn't have to come, you know." "You were out a long time," she told him, not answering his=20 question. "I saw the news report about the bridge=20 collapse." "Yeah, it was a mess, a lot of cars totaled, but no serious=20 injuries. And the traffic jam was pretty bad too. It took=20 a while to separate cars so everyone could move again." =20 Clark went on talking about the one event that interested=20 him. "One man was on the way across the bridge with his=20 pregnant wife. She was in labor, but it was too late to=20 make it to the hospital on time. An off-duty police=20 officer from a few cars down the line and I - together we=20 delivered a beautiful baby boy. Then I ferried the whole=20 family to the hospital." He stared off into space, and a=20 small smile appeared on his face as he said: "The man=20 watched his wife and son being wheeled inside with such a=20 look of contentment=85." Clark's voice trailed off as he=20 blushed, and turned his face away.=20 Lois reached over and took his hand in hers, and gently=20 stroked his fingers for a moment. Then she whispered:=20 "Clark, please don't leave. I don't want you to go." "Lois, I have to go. I can't stay and just be partners and=20 friends, like we were before." =20 "Why Clark?" Lois asked, her eyes filling with tears. =20 "Be=85because you hate me for the things I said in that=20 letter I wrote. I'm sorry," she whispered. "No-no. Lois I could never hate you. You had every right=20 to be angry. I lied to you for over a year." "Clark, I don't understand. You must have known I'd=20 forgive you for that as soon as I had a chance to think=20 about it. You-you do still love me, don't you?" she asked=20 anxiously. "More than anything or anyone else on Earth." "But you're still gonna leave?" He nodded mutely, unable even to say the words. "Why Clark? What have I done? Please tell me. I'll=20 change, I promise I will." Lois was panicked, and the tears=20 flowed freely down her cheeks. Clark turned and pulled her into an embrace. "It's=20 nothing you've done, sweetheart. It's my fault and I=20 should tell you=85." He stopped abruptly. When Lois was=20 upset, she ranted and raged, but Clark was more likely to=20 retreat into stony silence. =20 Lois could see that Clark was becoming dejected and moody,=20 and begged: "What is it, Clark? Please talk to me." Clark sighed heavily. **What's the use of talking, it=20 won't change anything. ** "Lois, I'm sorry. I can't change=20 what I've done=85" "I said I forgive you," she interrupted. "Shhh," he replied, placing his finger on her lips to=20 silence her. Leaning forward, he lifted her chin and gave=20 her a sweet, lingering kiss. He wanted to remember the=20 feel of her warm lips on those cold nights in his arctic=20 fortress. Finally, reluctantly, he pulled away. "I know. =20 I can't change what I've done," he repeated, "and I can't=20 change who I am." "Clark, you're Superman." "Yeah. That's exactly right." His tone conveyed irony. "Clark, you're losing me here," Lois told him, her=20 frustration evident. "I can't stop being Superman, not even for you." "People need Superman, I understand that." "No, I don't think you do understand. Lois, let's say you=20 and I get married." He blushed at his audacity, but Lois=20 just smiled encouragingly. =20 On a roll, he continued grinning boldly. "Maybe, we even=20 have a couple of kids." "Yeah," Lois sighed. "You've just won that Pulitzer, and the Kents are=20 celebrating by having family and friends over for a=20 backyard barbecue. Perry's there, maybe even with Alice,=20 and Jimmy with a new girlfriend, our parents=85." He trailed=20 off, his expression dreamy, and Lois realized he was=20 describing a treasured fantasy. =20 "Then suddenly a-a volcano erupts in Southern Italy, or=20 there's an earthquake in the Ukraine. I have to rush off,=20 and you're left to make some stupid excuse that no one will=20 accept or believe except my parents." His voice got husky=20 and his face fell. "I'd go, don't you understand, no=20 matter what we're doing - even if we're in the middle of=20 making love - when someone needs Superman, I have to go. =20 And the fact that you know why isn't gonna change that."=20 "So," she told him, trying to lighten the somber mood, "I=20 guess it's gonna be a lot like being married to a policeman=20 or a firefighter." "No!" He shouted. "It's not gonna be at all like being=20 married to a policeman or a firefighter." He shook his=20 head sadly. "They get time off 'from the job' for=20 important events, there are others who can take over in the=20 meantime. There's no one else who can do what Superman -=20 what *I* can do." "Oh." "Yeah, oh," he concluded bitterly. "Lois, remember when=20 you agreed to go out with Clark?" She just nodded.=20 "I asked you how you felt about Superman then." "I didn't want to answer, but I figured you deserved one." "You told me you'd always be Superman's friend, but that you=20 wanted an ordinary man." "I said I wanted someone you could eat pizza and watch=20 Lethal Weapon videos with until the wee hours of the=20 morning," she added regretfully. "Yeah, and you told me you wanted 'the hack from=20 Nowheresville, not Superman.' He almost laughed, then=20 sobered. "You told me you'd given up the Superman fantasy,=20 that you wanted to be with Clark Kent, your writing partner=20 and best friend, a normal human being," he concluded,=20 choking out those last few words. =20 He turned his face away and, it was several moments before=20 he could continue. Finally, he said: "Lois, I know you=20 want me to be just a farm boy from Kansas. If I could,=20 believe me, I would, but I can't. Clark Kent is as much a=20 fantasy as Superman. There's no Superman, no Clark Kent,=20 there's just me - an alien from Krypton, and above all not a=20 normal human." =20 Lois could only sit and stare, stunned by the implications=20 of what he'd said. **I chose Clark over Superman but Clark=20 is Superman. ** =20 SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS After a time, Clark stood up and spun into Clark clothes. =20 Lois's Jaw dropped. She'd deduced that Clark was Superman,=20 and she supposed she understood that fact intellectually,=20 but seeing its physical manifestation was staggering. Clark reached for Lois's hand. "Come on, I'll drive you=20 home." Her thoughts in turmoil, Lois pulled away. "No," she=20 retorted angrily. Clark's heart broke in two. She understood how really=20 different he was, and clearly she was revolted. "Lois,=20 please," he begged. "I just want to=85to make sure you get=20 home safely, then I won't bother you anymore, I promise." "No!" she repeated, almost shouting. =20 **It's all over** Clark thought. despairingly. Giving in he=20 told her: "Just-Just don't go anywhere while you're still=20 upset, okay? I'll go and=85and you can leave anytime you=20 want to." =20 As he suited his actions to his words, and headed toward=20 the front door, Lois came out of her trance. "No, wait,"=20 she called out, as she jumped up and ran after him. Clark stopped moving, still facing the steps leading up to=20 the entrance. Lois grabbed him and turned him back toward=20 her. Silent tears were coursing down Clark's cheeks. She=20 pulled the unprotesting Clark toward the sofa, sat them=20 both down, and held him in her arms while his tears=20 continued to flow. When they finally stopped, she kissed=20 his tear-streaked cheeks. "Oh, Clark," she sighed, "do you=20 have any idea how much I love you?" Clark's heart, intact again, pounded against his ribcage as=20 hope sprang up once more, but he immediately crushed it. =20 Knowing what being close to Superman entailed, he couldn't=20 let her make the kind of sacrifice loving Superman would=20 require. **I can't do that to Lois, she's been hurt enough=20 already. I can't let her love me, ** he told the now=20 pitying voice that was frantically urging him to let Lois=20 do just that. "I love you too, Lois, but I just don't see any way out of=20 this mess for us," he lamented. Determined to convince her=20 to take the step that would break his own heart, he renewed=20 his arguments. "Lois, I know so little about myself. I-I=20 don't even know if I'll ever be able to=85to give you=20 children. And if we do have children, what kind of father=20 would Superman be? =20 Kids need a father to watch them in school plays, to take=20 them fishing, and to play ball with them. Do you know I=20 can play a complete baseball game by myself, playing all=20 the positions at once?" he said, in what appeared to be a=20 total non-sequitor. "And use the paddle on both sides of a=20 ping pong table almost simultaneously? What fun is that=20 for a kid?" he finished, bringing them back to his original=20 point. Lois heard the loneliness in that statement, and she=20 wondered how often Clark played by himself while he was=20 growing up, and how much of his time was spent alone even=20 now.=20 Hating himself, Clark felt compelled to continue. "Lois,=20 I'm not an ordinary man. I'm not the one you want. I'm=20 not even human, I'm Kal-El, a Kryptonian with Superpowers=20 on Earth, and I'm Superman, the person you don't want=20 anymore," he admitted, almost crying out in his anguish.=20 **I rejected Superman for Clark. That must have hurt as=20 much as my initial rejection of Clark for Superman. This=20 is so complicated, ** Lois thought, understanding what she=20 had inadvertently done, while trying to fix the problem she=20 had caused by her early infatuation with Superman. Clark hurried on. He had to convince her before he lost=20 control. "Lois, I may look human, but my physiology is=20 completely different. I couldn't for example donate=20 blood." Both of them remembered the bloodmobile drive at=20 the Daily Planet last year. Everyone was expected to=20 participate, but Clark couldn't, so he conveniently got lost=20 all day tracking down a lead. "I can kick a football into=20 orbit, melt guns with my heat vision, fly around the world=20 in minutes, and see through walls, but a small chunk of=20 green rock, that affects no one else on Earth, renders me=20 incapable of rescuing you," he concluded scornfully. "Then I guess it's up to me to protect Superman from=20 Kryptonite," Lois replied, grinning because she'd had to do=20 that before.=20 "You don't get it, do you?" Clark's voice was angry. "I'm=20 letting you go=85to-to find someone else, to remake your=20 life without me, to get that Pulitzer." "It's a little late for that, Clark. Maybe a year ago, I=20 could have done it, but not any more." She gave him a=20 sweet kiss, then got up and walked across the room.=20 **A goodbye kiss, ** Clark thought, his heart breaking all=20 over again. =20 **This is what you wanted, ** the commiserating inner voice=20 told him.=20 **No, but it's what must be, ** he told it firmly.=20 Standing on the bottom step leading to Clark's front door,=20 Lois turned around and glared at him. "Lois, do you mind if-if I watch out for you while you=20 drive home?" he asked tentatively. "I'm not going home!" Lois told him exasperated. "Clark,=20 come over here," she ordered.=20 Sighing heavily, Clark got up from the sofa, reluctantly=20 shuffled over to Lois, and stood in front of her, trying to=20 hold back the tears that threatened once again. **I can't=20 make her feel guilty, ** he thought, ** but I almost wish=20 she'd hadn't come. ** "Clark, everything you've said is true, and none of it=20 matters, you know." "It doesn't?" Clark asked, bewildered. "No Clark, because I love you. Whoever you are, whatever=20 you have to do, I love you."=20 It was Lois's turn to convince Clark, but his eyes were=20 looking everywhere but at her. She lifted his chin and=20 planted another gentle kiss on his mouth. Holding his face=20 in her hands, so he was forced to look at her, and speaking=20 softly, she began. "The whole time I was in the newsroom=20 after I figured out you're Superman, I had to remind myself=20 that I dare not slip and give the secret away. 'Clark is=20 Superman,' I kept telling myself and 'The world needs=20 Superman.'" "Yeah," Clark affirmed. **She's just proved my point, ** he=20 thought wretchedly, but Lois wasn't through. =20 Looking directly into Clark's eyes, she asked: "Clark, if=20 the world needs Superman, what does Superman need? What do=20 you need? Won't you tell me, please?" Clark wanted to turn away but Lois was holding his gaze=20 with more than just her hands. He had to answer her. "I-I=20 need=85I need you, Lois," Clark admitted. sadly. =20 Lois's face broke out in a huge smile, the exultation that=20 his words gave her showing in that smile. "And you have=20 me, my love," she told her astonished lover, "for now and=20 forever. Clark, don't you see, you give everyone in the=20 world so much, but you give me infinitely more, because you=20 give me yourself. Nothing is more important than that=20 simple fact, not who you are, not what you do, and=20 certainly not the fact that you're Superman. Whoever you=20 are, human or alien, I love you Clark Kent, Kal-El,=20 Superman, I love you." Her words removed the last doubts from Clark's mind, and he=20 responded with a huge grin of his own. Dropping her hands,=20 Lois threw her arms around Clark and gave him a third,=20 passionate kiss. Convinced at last, Clark picked her up=20 and spun her around joyously. "I love you too, Lois Lane. =20 I love you, for now and forever," he told her, as he=20 floated them up toward the ceiling and prepared to make=20 love to her in a way that was definitely not found in any=20 of the books that either of them had read. The End. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:49:36 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Conscious Choice (was PG13ish and "the line") MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/99 3:13:13 PM !!!First Boot!!!, deimos1@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << Nurses rarely are. We see all sides of human nature on the job; that side of it is no more out of place than any other. Nan >> At the risk of carrying on a discussion no one wants to continue, I should point out that my morher-in-law is a nurse, so I know this is true. So of course when she read my story, she didn't comment at all on the nfic? part. Love her, Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:01:55 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/99 6:21:50 PM !!!First Boot!!!, cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU writes: << I referred to BE and my brother thought Trey might be from South Park! Carolyn >> Everyone's already answered this, so here is my seconding or thirding or whatever. Use a line or two to show what happened in the episode that relates to your story, but no more. FOLCS are very familiar with LnC or can become so if they need to. But that doesn't stop us from enjoying the mentions as we read. I personally smile when I recognize a scene or dialog from the show. Charlotte - who probably bored the heck out of everyone with so many LnC quotes out of context in Just like Claude, but who had great fun writing it anyway. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:02:52 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Nfic (Was 're: Cruise Comments) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/4/99 11:33:21 PM !!!First Boot!!!, jessi914@HOTMAIL.COM writes: << I understand that there are beautifully written ones, and I'll probably be reading some of those, but I doubt I'll want to read a whole lot of them. I already do the same thing now with revelation stories. >> Just a note here. The nice thing about any literature, PG or NFm is you can read what suits you. Some people want plot, others just want a verbal picture and there are stories for both groups, not to mention some writers who satisy both groups. Personally I love revelation stories, and read each and every one, but that's me. No one else need apply. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:10:41 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: Public opinion on a teaser for The Black Circle Comments: To: StarKitty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tara, if you don't, we may just have to tell your Mom to hog-tie you to the chair until you do. JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:47:00 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kath Roden Subject: Re: Nfic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM writes: << And for the record, I've been equally disappointed (actually, much more diappointed, bordering on offended ;)) on the rare occasions I've come across someone who labels all G/PG fanfic as "boring" and claims to only have an interest in nfic. While they are entitled to their opinion, it makes *me* feel "cheap" to think they've read my work (if they have) just for cheap thrills. Kathy >> >Don't let it bother you, Kathy. These are the folcs who will skim through >a story to get to *those* parts, not realizing just how they fit into the >entire narrative. Piper> Well, to each there own, but if they're not reading the complete nfic, then they're missing out on some *fabulous* stories! Most I've read have wonderful plots and great characterizations. They've been WAFFY, funny, serious and some have made me cry. I don't exclusively read nfic's, but i certainly don't discount them either. KathR ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:48:47 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: OUATIM: Harry Pollack to Clark Kent In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Mr. Kent: I would be pleased to grant either you or your inestimable partner an interview. I am afraid that I can't get away from the plant at the moment, but I would be glad to meet either one of you if you can come here. As long as it's not 2-3 p.m., I can easily manage to talk to someone for a few minutes. Ask around and someone will point me out. Keep away from the presses, please; they can be dangerous to a novice. Sincerely, Harry Pollack ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:09:02 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: Change of Eddress (was Nfic nee Cruise Control...) In-Reply-To: <00aa01bf0e96$9e4ea260$c836883e@d9t5t7> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey LabRat: Do you mean I have become invisible? I thought I felt a little strange this past weekend:) But I'm here, really I am!!! Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >Wendy wrote: > >>> Doc. Klein's LabRat >>> labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk >>> >> >>Now, Rat, what a perfect address! Can't see any of us forgetting that >>one! >> >I certainly hope not! > >And Sandy wrote: > >>I second that. How in the world? I've heard of vanity license plates, >>but vanity e-mail addresses? > >LOL, Sandy. It's a quirk of my new free mailer here in the UK (Freeserve) >which insists on a double barelled name and address combination rather than >just a name. Now when it asked me for an address.....what *else* was I going >to put in? ;) > >Glad I was able to post to the list with it, actually, since I've just >returned from a day out to Loch Lomond with my aunt and discovered a host of >returned mail with the message about the change I sent out to everyone. >Spit. Apparently Carolyn, Carol (Malo) and Jeanne.....you don't exist. Funny >that as I could have sworn you weren't figments of my imagination.... ;) > >LabRat :) (still shaking out the glitches....) >Doc. Klein's LabRat >labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk > >PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS! > >"Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde > >"Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H. >L. Mencken ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:37:38 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <37F9042C.17F948D1@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks, Pam:) Actually, I have said to him something similar to what you wrote but I'm happy you wrote it because now I can document it to him:) He called ep references "arcane/occult"! OTOH, if he is to continue to do my editing and I reference eps, he has to understand what's going on. Anyway, thanks again for your very useful feedback:) Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >Carolyn wrote: >> Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will >> remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run down >> of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? >> > >Tell your brother that one of the most important things about writing is >to know your audience, and write for them. We, your audience, are >devoted FOLCs who remember many *many* details of the show. A long >explanation, for the most part, will be intrusive rather than helpful -- >breaking the flow of the story. Only say as much as you need to tell >*your* story -- don't worry about recreating previous ones. >-- >------------------------------------------------------- >Pam Jernigan | jernigan@bellsouth.net >ChiefPam on IRC | >------------------------------------------------------- >Lucy: "You could get any guy you wanted, but ... do you >have to be so smart all the time? So ... intense?" >Lois: "Look, I'm just being myself. If they're not man >enough to handle me, then ... I'll wait for someone who is," >--Lucy & Lois Lane discuss men, "Lois & Clark" pilot >------------------------------------------------------- >http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:44:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <37F90A46.B4AF7DFD@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks, Nan: I have actually been doing that already and usually, I am writing about something asscoiated with an ep but not using ep action very much. It just so happens that a story that I wrote just recently, which is a crossover ST:TNG/L&C story (again my thanks to all those who helped with Okona and BE ep info), paraphrases action from eps of both shows. He did not remember Okona at all, and BE only vaguely. Still, he was very positive about the story idea and pointed out the many holes in the plot, all of which were valid. Anyway, the story is in the nearly final edit stages, I hoep, with two friends promising to preview it for me, so I hope I will be sending it to the archive shortly along with another Psychic story, with an nfic to follow to Joyce/Debby:) Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >If you're not sure, probably a short paragraph just to recap (very >briefly) any >references to an episode might do. I wouldn't go any farther than that, >though. > >Nan > >Carolyn Schnall wrote: > >> Hi Joy: >> >> >Carolyn wrote: >> >Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much >> >explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? >> > >> >Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the introduction >> >to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be useful. If >> >it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your story. >>Also, >> >you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they will just >> >post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. >> > >> >JOY:) >> > >> >> I guess I was already doing as you suggest to the extent I thought >> necessary, though I appreciate your response very much:):):) >> >> Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will >> remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run down >> of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? >> >> Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:46:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >In a message dated 10/04/1999 2:25:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU writes: > ><< Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will > remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run down > of the ep, character names, etc, be provide >> > >Yup. ;) > >--Laurie Thanks, Laurie, my sometime archive editor:) Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:49:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <8556492.252b6ce3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks, Charlotte: Well, I have been doing that. My bro just keeps acting as though someone else might read it. OTOH, he might not have wanted to admit that he has forgotten so much:) Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu P.S. wasn't bored with the quotes:) >In a message dated 10/4/99 6:21:50 PM !!!First Boot!!!, >cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU writes: > ><< I referred to BE and my brother thought Trey might be from South > Park! > > Carolyn >> > >Everyone's already answered this, so here is my seconding or thirding or >whatever. > > Use a line or two to show what happened in the episode that relates to your >story, but no more. FOLCS are very familiar with LnC or can become so if >they need to. But that doesn't stop us from enjoying the mentions as we >read. I personally smile when I recognize a scene or dialog from the show. > >Charlotte - who probably bored the heck out of everyone with so many LnC >quotes out of context in Just like Claude, but who had great fun writing it >anyway. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:08:55 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yay! a ST:TNG/L&C x-over! How much longer will it take? I can't wait to read it! :-) Tara ----------------------- "Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" "Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" --crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Schnall To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:44 AM Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? > Thanks, Nan: > > I have actually been doing that already and usually, I am writing about > something asscoiated with an ep but not using ep action very much. > > It just so happens that a story that I wrote just recently, which is a > crossover ST:TNG/L&C story (again my thanks to all those who helped with > Okona and BE ep info), paraphrases action from eps of both shows. He did > not remember Okona at all, and BE only vaguely. Still, he was very > positive about the story idea and pointed out the many holes in the plot, > all of which were valid. > > Anyway, the story is in the nearly final edit stages, I hoep, with two > friends promising to preview it for me, so I hope I will be sending it to > the archive shortly along with another Psychic story, with an nfic to > follow to Joyce/Debby:) > > Thanks, > Carolyn > cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu > > > >If you're not sure, probably a short paragraph just to recap (very > >briefly) any > >references to an episode might do. I wouldn't go any farther than that, > >though. > > > >Nan > > > >Carolyn Schnall wrote: > > > >> Hi Joy: > >> > >> >Carolyn wrote: > >> >Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much > >> >explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? > >> > > >> >Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the introduction > >> >to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be useful. If > >> >it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your story. > >>Also, > >> >you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they will just > >> >post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. > >> > > >> >JOY:) > >> > > >> > >> I guess I was already doing as you suggest to the extent I thought > >> necessary, though I appreciate your response very much:):):) > >> > >> Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will > >> remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run down > >> of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? > >> > >> Carolyn > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:13:46 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <19991005180711.41811.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, between re-edits, previews, and archive procedure, I think at least three weeks, perhaps more. Thanks, Tara, it's great to know I will have at least one reader! Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >Yay! a ST:TNG/L&C x-over! How much longer will it take? I can't wait to >read it! :-) > >Tara >----------------------- >"Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: >The Voyage Home > >"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" >"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" >--crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Carolyn Schnall >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:44 AM >Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? > > >> Thanks, Nan: >> >> I have actually been doing that already and usually, I am writing about >> something asscoiated with an ep but not using ep action very much. >> >> It just so happens that a story that I wrote just recently, which is a >> crossover ST:TNG/L&C story (again my thanks to all those who helped with >> Okona and BE ep info), paraphrases action from eps of both shows. He did >> not remember Okona at all, and BE only vaguely. Still, he was very >> positive about the story idea and pointed out the many holes in the plot, >> all of which were valid. >> >> Anyway, the story is in the nearly final edit stages, I hoep, with two >> friends promising to preview it for me, so I hope I will be sending it to >> the archive shortly along with another Psychic story, with an nfic to >> follow to Joyce/Debby:) >> >> Thanks, >> Carolyn >> cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >> >> >> >If you're not sure, probably a short paragraph just to recap (very >> >briefly) any >> >references to an episode might do. I wouldn't go any farther than that, >> >though. >> > >> >Nan >> > >> >Carolyn Schnall wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Joy: >> >> >> >> >Carolyn wrote: >> >> >Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much >> >> >explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? >> >> > >> >> >Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the >introduction >> >> >to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be >useful. If >> >> >it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your story. >> >>Also, >> >> >you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they will >just >> >> >post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. >> >> > >> >> >JOY:) >> >> > >> >> >> >> I guess I was already doing as you suggest to the extent I thought >> >> necessary, though I appreciate your response very much:):):) >> >> >> >> Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will >> >> remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run >down >> >> of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? >> >> >> >> Carolyn >> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:23:30 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You mean two! I know Nan will want to read it! She's been watching Star Trek for ages, now! I know she'll like a x-over between her two favorite shows :-) Tara ----------------------- "Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" "Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" --crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Schnall To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 12:13 PM Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? > Well, between re-edits, previews, and archive procedure, I think at least > three weeks, perhaps more. > > Thanks, Tara, it's great to know I will have at least one reader! > > Thanks, > Carolyn > cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu > > >Yay! a ST:TNG/L&C x-over! How much longer will it take? I can't wait to > >read it! :-) > > > >Tara > >----------------------- > >"Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: > >The Voyage Home > > > >"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" > >"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" > >--crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Carolyn Schnall > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:44 AM > >Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? > > > > > >> Thanks, Nan: > >> > >> I have actually been doing that already and usually, I am writing about > >> something asscoiated with an ep but not using ep action very much. > >> > >> It just so happens that a story that I wrote just recently, which is a > >> crossover ST:TNG/L&C story (again my thanks to all those who helped with > >> Okona and BE ep info), paraphrases action from eps of both shows. He did > >> not remember Okona at all, and BE only vaguely. Still, he was very > >> positive about the story idea and pointed out the many holes in the plot, > >> all of which were valid. > >> > >> Anyway, the story is in the nearly final edit stages, I hoep, with two > >> friends promising to preview it for me, so I hope I will be sending it to > >> the archive shortly along with another Psychic story, with an nfic to > >> follow to Joyce/Debby:) > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Carolyn > >> cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu > >> > >> > >> >If you're not sure, probably a short paragraph just to recap (very > >> >briefly) any > >> >references to an episode might do. I wouldn't go any farther than that, > >> >though. > >> > > >> >Nan > >> > > >> >Carolyn Schnall wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Joy: > >> >> > >> >> >Carolyn wrote: > >> >> >Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much > >> >> >explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? > >> >> > > >> >> >Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the > >introduction > >> >> >to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be > >useful. If > >> >> >it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your story. > >> >>Also, > >> >> >you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they will > >just > >> >> >post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. > >> >> > > >> >> >JOY:) > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> I guess I was already doing as you suggest to the extent I thought > >> >> necessary, though I appreciate your response very much:):):) > >> >> > >> >> Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will > >> >> remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run > >down > >> >> of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? > >> >> > >> >> Carolyn > >> > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:22:15 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jennifer Nazareth Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to emerge from lurkdom to say Me too. SO that makes three who want to see a crossover trek/lnc story. I love Trek and LNC Jennifer >You mean two! I know Nan will want to read it! She's been watching Star >Trek for ages, now! I know she'll like a x-over between her two favorite >shows :-) >Tara ----------------------- "Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" "Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" --crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" ----- Original Message ----- From: Carolyn Schnall To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 12:13 PM Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? > Well, between re-edits, previews, and archive procedure, I think at least > three weeks, perhaps more. > > Thanks, Tara, it's great to know I will have at least one reader! > > Thanks, > Carolyn > cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu > > >Yay! a ST:TNG/L&C x-over! How much longer will it take? I can't wait to > >read it! :-) > > > >Tara > >----------------------- > >"Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: > >The Voyage Home > > > >"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" > >"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" > >--crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Carolyn Schnall > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:44 AM > >Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? > > > > > >> Thanks, Nan: > >> > >> I have actually been doing that already and usually, I am writing about > >> something asscoiated with an ep but not using ep action very much. > >> > >> It just so happens that a story that I wrote just recently, which is a > >> crossover ST:TNG/L&C story (again my thanks to all those who helped with > >> Okona and BE ep info), paraphrases action from eps of both shows. He did > >> not remember Okona at all, and BE only vaguely. Still, he was very > >> positive about the story idea and pointed out the many holes in the plot, > >> all of which were valid. > >> > >> Anyway, the story is in the nearly final edit stages, I hoep, with two > >> friends promising to preview it for me, so I hope I will be sending it to > >> the archive shortly along with another Psychic story, with an nfic to > >> follow to Joyce/Debby:) > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Carolyn > >> cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu > >> > >> > >> >If you're not sure, probably a short paragraph just to recap (very > >> >briefly) any > >> >references to an episode might do. I wouldn't go any farther than that, > >> >though. > >> > > >> >Nan > >> > > >> >Carolyn Schnall wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi Joy: > >> >> > >> >> >Carolyn wrote: > >> >> >Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how much > >> >> >explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? > >> >> > > >> >> >Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the > >introduction > >> >> >to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be > >useful. If > >> >> >it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your story. > >> >>Also, > >> >> >you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they will > >just > >> >> >post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. > >> >> > > >> >> >JOY:) > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> I guess I was already doing as you suggest to the extent I thought > >> >> necessary, though I appreciate your response very much:):):) > >> >> > >> >> Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs will > >> >> remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a run > >down > >> >> of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? > >> >> > >> >> Carolyn > >> > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:44:17 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: The Black Circle part 1 of ???? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01B1_01BF0F26.F4869DA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01B1_01BF0F26.F4869DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, here goes. This is part 1 of whatever. The sequal to Maggie. You = asked for it, well you've got it The Black Circle The Black Circle "What are you doin'? Let me go!" the man shouted as a robed and hooded = figure bent over him and removed his blindfold. He blinked in the dim = light, obviously confused and scared. The man was tied, spreadeagled, to a flat slab of granite. Nine torches = were arranged in a circle around the slab, and before them stood nine = robed and hooded people. The light from the torches illuminated only a = small area, and he could not see anything outside the circle. The one who had removed his blindfold reached into his robe and pulled = out a long curved dagger with a black hilt. On it was inscribed a rune = with a gleaming onyx circle surrounding it. The figure used the dagger = to carefully cut the mans shirt down the front and push it to the side. "Hey! What're ya doin'? Lemme go!" One of the others stepped forward and pulled something out of their robe = and began drawing symbols on the mans chest. The others began chanting = softly as the one with the knife raised the knife high in the air. The one observer outside the light turned away, sickened, as the = protests from the man abruptly stopped. The chanting behind him = increased and a reddish light suddenly flared, illuminating the entire = room for a minute before dying, and leaving the room lit only by the = torches once more. The observer stumbled out through the door of the warehouse into the = cool night air. "Are you all right, Tank?" One of the Black Circle's other followers was = standing out there, smoking. "You look a little pale." "I'm fine, Jenny," he answered her. "I think I'm coming down with a = cold. I'm going home." She nodded understandingly as he turned and walked up the street to his = car. As he started his car and prepared to drive away, he saw Jenny throw her = barely smoked cigarette into a puddle and go inside.=20 He floored the accelerator as one of the Inner Circle stepped out and = stared after his car. There was no way he could go back there, now. "Just a little more to the right," Maggie suggested helpfully. Jimmy released the bureau abruptly. Maggie giggled at his expression. = "You know, I could have done that myself!" Jimmy leaned back against the bureau wiping sweat from his face. "Yeah, = but if anyone saw you, they'd know something was funny." "Or they'd think it was made out of particle board," Maggie laughed. "Yeah, well . . ." Maggie looked around her room as Jimmy groped for a good comeback. Despite the fact that when she'd arrived in Metropolis she'd had only = the things she could carry in a backpack, she wasn't completely without = possessions. When she'd decided to come to Metropolis, she'd put her = things in storage along with her parents things. She hadn't known at the = time when-or if-she'd be retrieving them, but she couldn't bear to sell = them. They were things her parents had bought for her before their = deaths two years ago and were her now only link to them. Now, she had taken some of her possessions out of storage and moved = them, with Superman's help, across the country from California to New = Troy. Jimmy had insisted on helping her move some of it up to the = apartment after Superman was called away to deal with a bridge = collapsing. "So what's Lucy like, anyway?" she suddenly asked Jimmy. "I'm going to = be sharing an apartment with someone I've only met once! You know her, = right?" Jimmy looked suddenly uncomfortable. "Well, yeah I know her. She's Lois' = sister, after all." Maggie raised an eyebrow at him. "What's wrong? Is she a psycho or = something?" "No! No, nothing like that!" Jimmy was quick to reassure her. "Its just, = well, um . . ." "Did you used to date her or something?" Jimmy looked even more = uncomfortable at that, and Maggie grinned. "You did, didn't you! What, = did you think I was going to be jealous or something? Don't worry. I'm = not the jealous type." She cocked her head to one side in a listening pose. "Lois just pulled = up. I think she's got Lucy with her." "Hey, guys!" Lucy yelled apparently from the living room. "Lois wants = you to go with her. She said something about another sacrifice!" Both straightened up at that.=20 "Another one!" Maggie said in a low, appalled voice. They ran out of the room together. ----------------------- "Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek = IV: The Voyage Home "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" "Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" --crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" ------=_NextPart_000_01B1_01BF0F26.F4869DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok, here goes.  This is part 1 of = whatever.=20 The sequal to Maggie.  You asked for it, well you've got it=20 <beg>
 
The Black Circle
 

The Black Circle

 

"What are you doin’? Let me go!" the man shouted as a robed and = hooded figure=20 bent over him and removed his blindfold. He blinked in the dim light, = obviously=20 confused and scared.

The man was tied, spreadeagled, to a flat slab of granite. Nine = torches were=20 arranged in a circle around the slab, and before them stood nine robed = and=20 hooded people. The light from the torches illuminated only a small area, = and he=20 could not see anything outside the circle.

The one who had removed his blindfold reached into his robe and = pulled out a=20 long curved dagger with a black hilt. On it was inscribed a rune with a = gleaming=20 onyx circle surrounding it. The figure used the dagger to carefully cut = the mans=20 shirt down the front and push it to the side.

"Hey! What’re ya doin’? Lemme go!"

One of the others stepped forward and pulled something out of their = robe and=20 began drawing symbols on the mans chest. The others began chanting = softly as the=20 one with the knife raised the knife high in the air.

The one observer outside the light turned away, sickened, as the = protests=20 from the man abruptly stopped. The chanting behind him increased and a = reddish=20 light suddenly flared, illuminating the entire room for a minute before = dying,=20 and leaving the room lit only by the torches once more.

The observer stumbled out through the door of the warehouse into the = cool=20 night air.

"Are you all right, Tank?" One of the Black Circle’s other = followers was=20 standing out there, smoking. "You look a little pale."

"I’m fine, Jenny," he answered her. "I think I’m coming = down with a cold. I’m=20 going home."

She nodded understandingly as he turned and walked up the street to = his=20 car.

As he started his car and prepared to drive away, he saw Jenny throw = her=20 barely smoked cigarette into a puddle and go inside.

He floored the accelerator as one of the Inner Circle stepped out and = stared=20 after his car. There was no way he could go back there, now.

 

 

"Just a little more to the right," Maggie suggested helpfully.

Jimmy released the bureau abruptly. Maggie giggled at his expression. = "You=20 know, I could have done that myself!"

Jimmy leaned back against the bureau wiping sweat from his face. = "Yeah, but=20 if anyone saw you, they’d know something was funny."

"Or they’d think it was made out of particle board," Maggie = laughed.

"Yeah, well . . ."

Maggie looked around her room as Jimmy groped for a good = comeback.

Despite the fact that when she’d arrived in Metropolis = she’d had only the=20 things she could carry in a backpack, she wasn’t completely = without possessions.=20 When she’d decided to come to Metropolis, she’d put her = things in storage along=20 with her parents things. She hadn’t known at the time = when—or if—she’d be=20 retrieving them, but she couldn’t bear to sell them. They were = things her=20 parents had bought for her before their deaths two years ago and were = her now=20 only link to them.

Now, she had taken some of her possessions out of storage and moved = them,=20 with Superman’s help, across the country from California to New = Troy. Jimmy had=20 insisted on helping her move some of it up to the apartment after = Superman was=20 called away to deal with a bridge collapsing.

"So what’s Lucy like, anyway?" she suddenly asked Jimmy. = "I’m going to be=20 sharing an apartment with someone I’ve only met once! You know = her, right?"

Jimmy looked suddenly uncomfortable. "Well, yeah I know her. = She’s Lois’=20 sister, after all."

Maggie raised an eyebrow at him. "What's wrong? Is she a psycho or=20 something?"

"No! No, nothing like that!" Jimmy was quick to reassure her. "Its = just,=20 well, um . . ."

"Did you used to date her or something?" Jimmy looked even more = uncomfortable=20 at that, and Maggie grinned. "You did, didn’t you! What, did you = think I was=20 going to be jealous or something? Don’t worry. I’m not the = jealous type."

She cocked her head to one side in a listening pose. "Lois just = pulled up. I=20 think she’s got Lucy with her."

"Hey, guys!" Lucy yelled apparently from the living room. "Lois wants = you to=20 go with her. She said something about another sacrifice!"

Both straightened up at that.

"Another one!" Maggie said in a low, appalled voice.

They ran out of the room together.

-----------------------
"Whoever = said the human=20 race was logical?"  Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: The Voyage=20 Home
 
"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" = "Is it a=20 plane?"
"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a = cape"
--crowd=20 scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark"
 

 
------=_NextPart_000_01B1_01BF0F26.F4869DA0-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:33:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: The Black Circle part 1 of ???? Comments: To: StarKitty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, Tara, since you posted this I won't ask Nan to hog tie you to your keyboard. I guess, you'd better crank out part two though, I hear Ralph is lonely. He he. JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:21:43 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Perry to Clark [encrypted] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clark, I hope I've got this encryption thing right. Phone me if you can't read this. Did I tell you how good the Superman interview was? I can't remember. Talking of remembering, Alice says she found my laptop in the refrigerator this morning. I'm not sure whether I believe her - it sure seems to be working fine now - why would I put the laptop in the fridge? She keeps bugging me to get away for a few days, so I think it's her way of making me think I need a break. How can I leave right now? Judas Priest, we're just about holding things together as it is! re. Pollack Watch yourself with him. I got a very odd email from him today, telling me to be very careful around the presses when I go to meet up with him - accidents can happen! As if I don't know how to handle myself around a printing press. re. Pregnancy When Alice was pregnant the first time I was tearing myself apart for the first 3 months. Helpless doesn't begin to describe it. You just gotta learn to be there when she needs you - and not there when she doesn't want you (boy, did I learn *that* one fast!). It can be a rough ride, but you two will be just fine. re. Underhill I'm meeting him tonight on his new boat in the marina. I think we all know where the money for the new boat came from! I guess I'm finally going to find out what he's got on his mind, but I gotta tell you, this old newshound is just a little nervous. I can take care of myself, of course, but you might, ah, mention my meeting to Superman? re. NTM Was it you or Lois who asked about NTM? Anyway, all I can tell you is that Underhill and his buddies used to pick on him mercilessly at school. Sometimes I wonder if his single-minded drive to the top was due to what happened at school - out to prove he's better than them all, maybe. Off to check the latest circulation figures again, Perry ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:21:54 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Perry to Ron MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ron, OK, I'll see you at the marina. New boat, Ron? The Star must be paying you very well. Or did one of those get-rich-quick schemes of yours actually make some money? Perry ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:36:42 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Alice to Lois and Clark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Lois and Clark, I'm delighted to hear your wonderful news! You must be thrilled, both of you. Lois, dear - it *will* get better, let me assure you. I found that eating little and often helped for me - and don't listen to Clark - you eat just exactly what you want, when you want it. The baby will be just fine no matter what you feed it right now. Now, I hate to burden you at this time, but I'm dreadfully worried about Perry. Do you know, he left the laptop in the refrigerator last night? Underneath the lasagne I'd left for him - which was untouched, I should add. He's working so hard to keep the Planet going, I think he's going to drive himself into an early grave. I want to take him away for a few days to rest, but you know Perry - he wouldn't desert the Planet if his life depended on it. I've been gradually trying to wear down his resistance to the idea over the past few days, and if you could add your weight to my argument, then maybe together we can persuade him. Clark - perhaps you could take on temporary editorship while he's away? I know this is a lot to ask, but I really love him and I don't want to lose him again. Yours, Alice White ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:50:10 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: OUATIM: Ron to Perry (double encryption) Comments: To: Yvonne Connell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What can I say, Perry? It was bonus time, er BONUS time. I'll explain everything tonight. If you can contact Superman, please bring him along as well. I have some evidence to give him that I can't trust with anyone else. BTW, sorry about the encryptions, but you'll understand everything tonight. Ron __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:03:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <19991005182142.45283.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Tara: Great!!!! Hope Nan likes ST:TNG, though:) Cause Classic Trek it's not If anyone wants to take a stab at that kind of crossover...we'd all like to see it:) Carolyn >You mean two! I know Nan will want to read it! She's been watching Star >Trek for ages, now! I know she'll like a x-over between her two favorite >shows :-) > >Tara >----------------------- >"Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: >The Voyage Home > >"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" >"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" >--crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Carolyn Schnall >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 12:13 PM >Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? > > >> Well, between re-edits, previews, and archive procedure, I think at least >> three weeks, perhaps more. >> >> Thanks, Tara, it's great to know I will have at least one reader! >> >> Thanks, >> Carolyn >> cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >> >> >Yay! a ST:TNG/L&C x-over! How much longer will it take? I can't wait >to >> >read it! :-) >> > >> >Tara >> >----------------------- >> >"Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: >> >The Voyage Home >> > >> >"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" >> >"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" >> >--crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" >> > >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Carolyn Schnall >> >To: >> >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:44 AM >> >Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? >> > >> > >> >> Thanks, Nan: >> >> >> >> I have actually been doing that already and usually, I am writing about >> >> something asscoiated with an ep but not using ep action very much. >> >> >> >> It just so happens that a story that I wrote just recently, which is a >> >> crossover ST:TNG/L&C story (again my thanks to all those who helped >with >> >> Okona and BE ep info), paraphrases action from eps of both shows. He >did >> >> not remember Okona at all, and BE only vaguely. Still, he was very >> >> positive about the story idea and pointed out the many holes in the >plot, >> >> all of which were valid. >> >> >> >> Anyway, the story is in the nearly final edit stages, I hoep, with two >> >> friends promising to preview it for me, so I hope I will be sending it >to >> >> the archive shortly along with another Psychic story, with an nfic to >> >> follow to Joyce/Debby:) >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Carolyn >> >> cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> >If you're not sure, probably a short paragraph just to recap (very >> >> >briefly) any >> >> >references to an episode might do. I wouldn't go any farther than >that, >> >> >though. >> >> > >> >> >Nan >> >> > >> >> >Carolyn Schnall wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi Joy: >> >> >> >> >> >> >Carolyn wrote: >> >> >> >Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how >much >> >> >> >explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the >> >introduction >> >> >> >to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be >> >useful. If >> >> >> >it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your >story. >> >> >>Also, >> >> >> >you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they >will >> >just >> >> >> >post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >JOY:) >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I guess I was already doing as you suggest to the extent I thought >> >> >> necessary, though I appreciate your response very much:):):) >> >> >> >> >> >> Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs >will >> >> >> remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a >run >> >down >> >> >> of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? >> >> >> >> >> >> Carolyn >> >> >> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:05:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <00c501bf0f5e$9167baa0$e776d8cf@culturesrestaurant.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Jennifer: Glad to know there are three!!!! However, I must remind all that Classic Trek it is not:) Carolyn >I'd like to emerge from lurkdom to say > >Me too. SO that makes three who want to see a crossover trek/lnc story. I >love Trek and LNC > >Jennifer > >>You mean two! I know Nan will want to read it! She's been watching Star >>Trek for ages, now! I know she'll like a x-over between her two favorite >>shows :-) > >>Tara >----------------------- >"Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: >The Voyage Home > >"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" >"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" >--crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Carolyn Schnall >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 12:13 PM >Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? > > >> Well, between re-edits, previews, and archive procedure, I think at least >> three weeks, perhaps more. >> >> Thanks, Tara, it's great to know I will have at least one reader! >> >> Thanks, >> Carolyn >> cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >> >> >Yay! a ST:TNG/L&C x-over! How much longer will it take? I can't wait >to >> >read it! :-) >> > >> >Tara >> >----------------------- >> >"Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: >> >The Voyage Home >> > >> >"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" >> >"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" >> >--crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" >> > >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: Carolyn Schnall >> >To: >> >Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 11:44 AM >> >Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? >> > >> > >> >> Thanks, Nan: >> >> >> >> I have actually been doing that already and usually, I am writing about >> >> something asscoiated with an ep but not using ep action very much. >> >> >> >> It just so happens that a story that I wrote just recently, which is a >> >> crossover ST:TNG/L&C story (again my thanks to all those who helped >with >> >> Okona and BE ep info), paraphrases action from eps of both shows. He >did >> >> not remember Okona at all, and BE only vaguely. Still, he was very >> >> positive about the story idea and pointed out the many holes in the >plot, >> >> all of which were valid. >> >> >> >> Anyway, the story is in the nearly final edit stages, I hoep, with two >> >> friends promising to preview it for me, so I hope I will be sending it >to >> >> the archive shortly along with another Psychic story, with an nfic to >> >> follow to Joyce/Debby:) >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Carolyn >> >> cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> >If you're not sure, probably a short paragraph just to recap (very >> >> >briefly) any >> >> >references to an episode might do. I wouldn't go any farther than >that, >> >> >though. >> >> > >> >> >Nan >> >> > >> >> >Carolyn Schnall wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Hi Joy: >> >> >> >> >> >> >Carolyn wrote: >> >> >> >Since I doubt the stories will ever be read by the unitiated, how >much >> >> >> >explanation do I really need to put in? Any thoughts? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >Carolyn, it's really up to you. You could make a note in the >> >introduction >> >> >> >to the story that a knowledge of a certain episode/ arc will be >> >useful. If >> >> >> >it helps, you could use quotes and scenes from the eps in your >story. >> >> >>Also, >> >> >> >you could just assume that if anyone has any questions that they >will >> >just >> >> >> >post a comment to the list, or e-mail tyou directly. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >JOY:) >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I guess I was already doing as you suggest to the extent I thought >> >> >> necessary, though I appreciate your response very much:):):) >> >> >> >> >> >> Would you therefore say that the general consensus is that FoLCs >will >> >> >> remember the eps and that it is not a requirement for most that a >run >> >down >> >> >> of the ep, character names, etc, be provided? >> >> >> >> >> >> Carolyn >> >> >> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:11:56 -0600 Reply-To: Rhonda Robinson Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rhonda Robinson Subject: Re: L&C/ST X-over? GREAT! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi FoLCs, Well, as an all-Trek fan (original, Next Generation, Deep Space 9, and Voyager) you can count me as another impatient reader. Bye, Rhonda ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:18:05 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: OUATIM:Lara to Dan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guess, what? I won tickets to a Ricky Martin concert this morning on the radio! This is Ricky's first trip to Metropolis and it is the talk of the time. I thought maybe I could write a concert review about it or something. I got two tickets so I was wondering if you would like to accompany me? If Ricky is not your cup of tea, then no problem, I will just ask Cat. I don't think she would object to watching Ricky "shake his moneymaker!" LOL! Maybe she can get an exclusive interview. Lari PS. Thank you for taking me out to dinner last night. Angelina's is a very nice restaraunt. The pasta I ordered was very good. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:35:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: L&C/ST X-over? GREAT! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Hi FoLCs, > >Well, as an all-Trek fan (original, Next Generation, Deep Space 9, and >Voyager) you can count me as another impatient reader. > >Bye, >Rhonda Carolyn is now worried that after all this build-up, FoLCs will find the story disappointing:( Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Still, glad someone will actually read it Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:37:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" TITLE: Honor Among Thieves PART: 1/1 AUTHOR: Hazel RATING: PG FEEDBACK: Demanded with fists pounding on the desk! Filet it, dissect it, show me where my mistakes are! And help me figure out if Lois knows CK = S. :) Note: This story began as one of Wendy's "30-minute challenges" on Zoom's message boards. To answer a question many have posed, I chose to post on the boards instead of here on the list because I was answering the challenge, which was on the boards. (Duh!) A story with a time limit will, of necessity, be short and lacking in detail. I needed to flesh it out before it would qualify as a *real* story. Well, I don't think it's a real story yet, but it's getting there. :) This is my first full draft. I need help, people. What season is it? Does Lois need an active role? Is Clark acting too intelligent? ;) Do Perry and Jimmy need speaking roles? Should Clark phone home to Mom and Dad for advice? Are these people totally out of character? Should my police sergeant be reading the jokes in "Reader's Digest" instead? Please post *all* comments *publicly*. (Well, I'll take nit-picking typos privately instead of boring the list.) I agree with Sandy -- this is what this mailing list is for! Any advice I'm given here will surely be of use to others. I offer fat-free, zero-calorie chocolate chip cookies to all those who help me -- as soon as Phil finishes with the thought-transfer machine and invents the recipe, that is. :) Otherwise, they'll just be cyber-cookies. Those are pretty fat-free anyway. Thanks a lot, Hazel _______________________________________ Clark Kent's fingers flew across the keyboard, filling the screen with words designed to evoke a strong emotional response from the reader. It was about time the authorities did something about the abysmal conditions of the free health clinic located just outside Hobb's Bay. Perhaps this wrenching, brutal description of the appalling situation would do some good. It felt a little strange to write the article without Lois. While the investigation had required the combined skills of Lane and Kent to get to the bottom of the mysterious lack of state funds, Lois conceded that when it came to writing the story, Clark was better at tugging people's heartstrings. "I'll do the sidebar with all the information this time," she'd offered generously. "You write the tearjerker." She mock-glared at him. "But you'd better make sure it's good, or you won't find it so easy to get me to agree next time!" Clark typed the last paragraph of his article, then scrolled back to read the entire story at once. Yes, this would be a good start. Maybe the sluggards at City Hall would sit up and take notice for a change... The phone on his desk shrilled, interrupting his train of thought. Without removing his gaze from the screen, Clark lifted the receiver. "Clark Kent." "Kent?" rumbled a gravelly baritone. "Yes, Inspector," Clark replied, recognizing Henderson's distinctive voice. He swivelled away from the screen to give his full attention to the phone call. "What can I do for you?" "Can you get in touch with Superman for me?" "I might be able to manage that," Clark conceded with a touch of caution. "Why, what's wrong?" His hand automatically crept upwards to fiddle with his tie. Henderson hesitated for a moment. "I'm not sure I should talk about it over the phone, Kent. Someone asked me to set up a meeting with Superman. I'm not sure I like it." Clark twiddled the phone cord thoughtfully between his fingers. "Someone you know, Inspector?" Henderson huffed with exasperation. "Look, Kent, I don't have an S-signal, so just do me a favor and let the big guy know I want to talk to him, okay? One of these days you'll have to explain to me how you manage to get in touch with him whenever you want to." "Sure, Inspector, some day," Clark said vaguely. 'Say, in fifty years or so. After I dye my hair mauve.' "I'll try and get word to him for you." Clark hung up the phone and stared at his computer screen without seeing the words he'd typed only minutes before. Someone wanted to meet Superman, and had chosen to go through Henderson to find him. Why? Why not call on the team of Lane and Kent, who had written so many stories about Superman in the past? It had to be someone who thought in terms of the police. A government employee? A snitch? A politician? Only one way to find out, he decided. He quickly read over the story on his screen one last time, added a few adjectives here and removed a few adverbs there, and LAN'd it to Perry. A glance at his watch showed that it was close to one o'clock. He could easily slip away for "lunch" and make a side trip to see Henderson. As he rose from his chair, he couldn't help but take a quick, wistful look at the empty desk across from him. What a pity that Lois was out again this morning, meeting a source! He would have appreciated her input. Sighing, he waved at Jimmy in passing as he headed for the stairs. Time to find out exactly what Henderson wanted to discuss. *** "I'd like to see Inspector Henderson, please." "He's busy," mumbled the desk sergeant without looking up from his magazine. "You got an appointment?" "Actually, yes, I do." The sergeant reluctantly lifted his eyes from the centerfold. One look at the imposing figure standing on the other side of the desk sent him leaping to his feet, scrabbling to hide the magazine under a stack of papers. Clark politely pretended not to notice. "Superman!" the sergeant gasped, practically coming to attention. "Superman, if you'll -- I mean --" He gulped. "Ah, I'll just check with the inspector and see if he's available." "I'll wait here," Clark said in his best "noble yet reassuring" Superman voice. "Take your time." The sergeant disappeared into the back of the station, only to return moments later. "He's ready for you now, Superman," he announced, beaming at the brightly-clad hero. "I'll escort you there if you --" "Thank you, but that's quite all right," Clark declined. "I know the way. I wouldn't want to keep you from your... work." Clark felt a touch of guilt at that comment as the large man's cheeks suddenly matched the color of his boots. Best to withdraw gracefully. With a last reassuring smile, he strode past the desk and went straight to Henderson's office. Superman had only been there once, but Clark Kent definitely knew the way. "Superman," Henderson grunted as the Man of Steel appeared in his doorway. "C'mon in, take a seat. I want you to listen to a recording." As Clark adjusted his cape and sat down, Henderson fiddled with a machine on his desk. "Kent did a good, quick job of tracking you down," the man observed. "Exactly how does he do that?" Clark smiled non-committally. "He just manages to find me, that's all." Henderson leaned forward. "Well, is there some way we could 'manage' to find you, Superman? There are times when you're needed, and we just don't know how to get hold of you." Clark shrugged. "Clark Kent seems like a good enough source to me. If you call him, Inspector, you can be sure that I'll get the message right away." Henderson frowned and sat back. "Hmph. I'd rather have a direct line to you than have to go through your secretary." Clark barely managed to choke back a laugh. "Secretary, Inspector?" "Ah, forget it," Henderson sighed, waving it away. "We can talk about it another time. Right now, I want you to listen to this." He pressed a button on the machine, and Clark watched as the tape wheels began to turn. "You know, of course, that we record every call made to the station," Henderson said as the tape fed itself through the machine. "Once we realized what was happening, we spliced all the calls together and --" He stopped as the recording began to play. "Police station." "I wanna talk to the inspector. To Henderson." "Who is this, please?" "You don't need to know that. Just gimme Inspector Henderson." "Sir, could I please have your name?" "No, you can't. I'm calling back in a couple of minutes. Make sure Henderson is available." "Police station." "Yeah, I called a couple of minutes ago. Let me talk to Henderson." "Sir, Inspector Henderson is aware of your previous phone call. He will talk to you, but I must insist on having your name." "Well... if it'll *really* make you happy." "This is George Washington. Now let me talk to Henderson." "One moment please, Mr.... Washington." "No, I'm not holding on while you trace this call. I'll call back soon. Make sure I get through to Henderson then." Henderson paused the tape and looked up at the intent super-hero. "What do you think so far?" "I think this has little to do with me," Clark said slowly. "The background sounds seem to indicate the man is talking from a public phone. I would say he's on a main road -- I heard two buses pass by. He seems to want to talk with you rather badly and make sure he can't be traced at the same time. I'd guess that he's walking from one public phone to the next to make sure he remains safely anonymous." "That's what we think, too," Henderson agreed. "The boys did try to trace it, and they got as far as Hobb's Bay, but the guy just wouldn't stay on the phone long enough to get a definite number. Here's where it gets more interesting. We were expecting the call, and I was already listening in." He released the pause button and sat back. "Police station." "This is Washington. Let me talk to Henderson." "One moment, sir. Please don't hang up." "Henderson here. Who is this?" "I already said I'm George Washington." "Yeah, right. What do you want?" "I have some information for you. Information I need you to pass onto Superman." Clark raised his eyebrows, but the recording continued. "Get a pen and paper ready, Inspector. I'll call back soon." "Police Station." "This is Washington. Let me talk to Henderson." "One moment, sir." "This is Henderson. All right, Washington, what do you have for Superman?" "Good choice of words, Henderson. I *do* have something for Superman, something I need to give him. But it's going to have to happen my way." "Go on." "Tell Superman to meet me tonight in the alley behind Worth and 87th near Hobb's Bay. I'll be there with something for him." "What is it?" "Just tell him, Henderson. Make sure he comes alone. No cops. No recorders. And definitely not those reporter pals of his. If I see anything suspicious, I won't show. Got that?" "Wait a minute --" "Sorry, fifty seconds. Make sure he's there." Henderson shut off the recording. For a long moment, silence filled the small office. The two men looked at each other thoughtfully. "What do you think, Superman?" "I'm not sure," Clark said, frowning. "It might mean anything, really." "It might be a trap. I'm not sure it would be smart for you to show up. If you do go, you should take along some backup." Clark looked at him, amused. "And what exactly is he going to trap me with?" Henderson gave him a level gaze. "You're not as invulnerable as we all like to think you are," he said pointedly. "This guy is pointing you to a specific place at a specific time. Sounds like a trap to me." Clark, somewhat sobered, spread his hands. "If there really is something important involved, it would be foolish to scare this man away. I'm willing to take the risk." "C'mon, Superman." Henderson leaned forward. "Let me give you some backup. I've got some plainclothesmen who could make a better wino than a guy on a four-day bender, and one policewoman who can make herself look like she ought to be hauled in for -- well, never mind. But no one has to know the street scum hanging out at the corner are really on your side." Clark stood up and shook his head. "Thank you, Inspector, but no. Anything suspicious will only leave the matter unresolved. If this involves the citizens of Metropolis in any way, I'll get back to you. I appreciate your giving me the message." He shook the inspector's hand, then turned to go. With a sudden glint in his eye, Clark glanced back over his shoulder and added, "By the way, Henderson, looks like I'll have to tell Kent that the position of secretary has already been taken." He gently closed the door against the sudden explosion of coughs. *** The bright moon peeked reassuringly through the clouds as Superman hovered high over the rendezvous point, examining the site for potential traps. Just outside Suicide Slum, the alley looked like alleys the world over -- dirty, dark, and dismal. Even the man standing furtively in the shadows behind a dumpster seemed a natural part of the scenery. Yet if Henderson's story was right, this was the man who "had something to give to Superman." Clark still wasn't sure what to expect. A quick X-ray glance had shown that "George Washington" had a switchblade in his sock and brass knuckles in his pocket, but there was no sign of a weapon that could be dangerous to the Man of Steel. There were no other people nearby who could possibly be part of an ambush. Unless -- Clark's eyes narrowed as he took a closer look at the man's left hand. He was clutching something. Something that Clark couldn't identify... Because it was in a lead box. Clark rocketed skywards in panicky reflex as his every sense screamed "Danger!" Something to give to Superman? Something in a *lead* box? Kryptonite! He forced himself to calm down as he shot through the wispy clouds and lost sight of "George Washington". Taking a deep breath, he once again focused on the stranger below. Washington was peering upwards anxiously, squinting in first one direction and then another in his efforts to catch a glimpse of the superhero. The box, still in his left hand, was tightly closed. Clark considered his options. He couldn't just ignore the man and fly off; if it *was* Kryptonite, he needed to do something about it now. But how could he confront Washington, if all the stranger had to do was open the box and -- He stopped short and gazed intently at the dull-colored box that seemed to exude such menace. He blinked with surprise, then focused again. No, he wasn't mistaken. The box was locked. Something was really weird here. Clark made up his mind. Taking a deep breath, bracing himself for the possibility of sudden, searing pain, he flashed downwards in an eyeblink, snatched the man by the arms, and flew upwards in a heartbeat. Washington squeaked in astonishment and almost lost his hold of the box, his legs flailing wildly as he tried to find some purchase. As they reached cloud-level, Clark slowed to a halt. He held the man out at arm's length and let him get a good look at the distance to the ground. If Washington *did* try to attack him with Kryptonite, they would both suffer a long plummet to the ground, ending with an ugly, squishy *splat*. "S-superman!" the man gasped as his face turned a pasty white. "George Washington, I presume?" Clark asked mildly. "You wanted to give me something?" The man swallowed hard. He glanced downwards, then squeezed his eyes tightly shut. "Could you land somewhere, please?" he said hoarsely. "I can't --" Clark looked carefully at the small box. Yes, it was still locked. He floated to the nearest rooftop and set Washington down. The man's legs instantly buckled and he collapsed in a trembling heap. Clark stepped back and waited for the man to regain his composure. After a minute, he said again, "You wanted to give me something?" Washington slowly got to his feet. "Yes, Superman," he said. "Here. Take this." Clark stared at the lead box that the man offered him. "What is it?" "Don't open it," the man said hastily. "Just take it." "What is it?" Clark repeated. "It's Kryptonite." Clark dropped the box as if it had burned his fingers. The man stooped, picked up the box, and offered it to him again. Slowly, Clark took the box and held it. He felt nothing -- no pain, no weakness, no nausea. If the box really did hold Kryptonite, the lead protected him. "Why?" he asked. The man gave a small, crooked smile and shrugged. "Look, Supes, I'll be honest with you. I'm a crook. I haven't made an honest penny since I shoveled sidewalks as a kid. But there are crooks and crooks, ya know. We're not all super-villains." He pointed at the box. "I'm not gonna tell you how I ended up with that. It's not much, really -- maybe the size of a marble. But I know it can hurt you, so it's better that you get rid of it as soon as possible." "I don't understand," Clark said slowly. "You've admitted that you're a crook..." "I may steal, but I'm not a *real* bad guy, okay?" Washington interrupted. "Maybe you'd put me in prison if you caught me picking pockets, but that doesn't mean I hate you or want you dead. You're a good man, Supes. You've done a lot for the world and we all appreciate it. So just take the green rock and get rid of it, will ya?" Clark couldn't help but smile. "I'll do that," he said. He looked at the man carefully. "And thank you. Maybe I could help you look for some honest employment...?" Washington gave a guttural laugh. "Nice of you to think of it, Supes, but I'm not lookin' for a reward. Just get me down from here, okay?" "Okay." Clark lifted the man in a more gentle hold this time and drifted down towards street level. "Great." Washington dusted himself off, then offered Clark a cocky grin. "I'll try to keep out of your way, now. I know better than to ask you to look the other way if we ever meet, uh, professionally, but --" Clark simply held out his hand and offered him a warm handshake. "Thanks a lot," he smiled. "And try to stay on the right side of the law if you can." With a heart strangely warmed by the night's events, Superman rose upwards, eager to make a quick sidetrip to the sun to rid himself of this little souvenir from home. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:44:47 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: OUATIM:Henderson to Clark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clark- We have more id on the car little by little. The number is **14fd5akd7* with * for missing numbers/letters. The car was (definitely "was") a Chevy van, ivory color. We're running it through our computers for registration, but there are still quite a few combinations. Does Superman have the skills needed to do a fast sorting of numbers? If you see him, ask him for me will you? The owner sure liked peanut butter. Lots of disintegrated jars. Sincerely, Henderson ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:00:34 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: OUATIM:Klein to Clark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Clark, I received the strangest email last night about the clone from . Boy, try and say that one! He says the clone is Ms Lara Wells. Is that the person whose hair I tested? And he claims to have made her... If it weren't for the clone information, which I know to be true, I'd say it was prank mail from someone who has read far too many scifi books. On another subject, though it probably won't help you find the person behind the bomb, I think I've figured out how it was set off. The twisted piece of metal in the rubble was a tuning fork. Not just an ordinary tuning fork, but... oh, blast, I'm twenty minutes late for dept heads meeting. I'll finish later. Bernie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:16:42 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: OUATIM: comments Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm enjoying reading OUATIM (it's an interesting exersize, as it gives you a story from so many- partial- perspectives). I do have a few questions, though... Henderson wrote : << We have more id on the car little by little. The number is **14fd5akd7* with * for missing numbers/letters. >> Number, as in license plate number? Seems kinda long for a US license plate number. (Though I know different states use different numbers of characters in their plate numbers.) Alice wrote: << Clark - perhaps you could take on temporary editorship while he's away? >> Clark?! How come not Lois? ;) Sandy wrote: << I can only imagine what Ellen would think if she discovered that Lois told Clark's parents, her boss, her sister, and even a co-worker who, up until only recently, she disliked before she told her mother about her pregnancy. I'm sure Ellen would be very hurt and she should be. >> If I were Jimmy, I'd be kinda miffed, too. While I'd understand telling people like Martha & Jonathan, Perry, Ellen, and Lucy before Jimmy, I have to admit I was kinda surprised at Cat being told already... And practically first, too, certainly she got hints before M&J were told. Unless OUATIM takes off from a previously written fanfic, Lois and Cat's relationship was never very close in the show... -Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu * * * * * * * * * * "Life is like an onion; you peel off one layer at a time and sometimes you weep." -Carl Sandburg ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:19:32 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Chatrooms/IRC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01EF_01BF0F7F.B2D48A80" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01EF_01BF0F7F.B2D48A80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone wanting the basic info to get them onto irc and into a chatroom = can mail me and I'll be happy to send them instructions. 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Ann ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:04:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Subject: Re: Public opinion on a teaser for The Black Circle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tara, since you asked, my personal preference is to read finished stories. I know that when I'm writing, I don't want people to see the first two-three drafts, because I like to have the chance to change things around. (Besides which, I tend to edit and tweak all along as I'm writing -- there rarely is a complete "first draft"!) Peace ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:08:12 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: Re: OUATIM: comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Christy wrote: > I'm enjoying reading OUATIM (it's an interesting exersize, as it gives you a > story from so many- partial- perspectives). Thank you - on behalf of us all :) >I do have a few questions, > though... > > Henderson wrote : > << We have more id on the car little by little. The number is **14fd5akd7* > with * for missing numbers/letters. >> > > Number, as in license plate number? Seems kinda long for a US license plate > number. (Though I know different states use different numbers of characters in > their plate numbers.) > I'm answering for Laurie here, but I suspect she was referring to the serial number of the car, not the licence plate. > Alice wrote: > << Clark - perhaps you could take on temporary editorship while he's away? >> > > Clark?! How come not Lois? ;) > Why not? Actually, Alice knows Lois is pregnant and so is thinking that she wouldn't welcome the extra work right now. How Clark is going to juggle the extra work-load with his Superman duties is anyone's guess... > If I were Jimmy, I'd be kinda miffed, too. While I'd understand telling people > like Martha & Jonathan, Perry, Ellen, and Lucy before Jimmy, I have to admit I > was kinda surprised at Cat being told already... And practically first, too, > certainly she got hints before M&J were told. Unless OUATIM takes off from a > previously written fanfic, Lois and Cat's relationship was never very close in > the show... > Now I'm speaking for Jenni and Carol - Cat has come back to the Planet after a few years absence, and she's got rounder edges now she's a few years older - the same as Lois is less aggressive than she used to be. Also, Lois and Cat have been gradually working out their differences during the story. My guess is that Lois saw Cat as a neutral third party she could confess her uncertainties to. I think Jimmy's mature enough to understand that Lois and Clark are so excited they might not get the telling of the news completely perfect. Yvonne Arbitrator, Once Upon A Time In Metropolis (yconnell@ukf.net) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:11:34 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: New Arbitrator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm going off-line for a week from Thursday, so Tanya is very kindly stepping into the Arbitrator's role while I'm away. Play nice while I'm away :) Yvonne Arbitrator, OUATIM ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:14:35 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rich & Dawn Subject: Re: NKerth 99 Update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys! Just wanted to let you know I'm not awol, just on digest ;) Wendy wrote: > Absolutely, Kathy! Try Kathy's own 'Winners,' for example, or any of > Sheila's nfics, or Sandy McDermin's stories, or LabRat's excellent > 'Burnout' and 'Caped Fear,' Dawn Field's 'What if I never left > Krypton,' Demi's 'And the Answer Isn't,' 'Heaven's Prisoners' or > 'Temporary Insanity' - or even my own 'It's a Super Life' and 'A > Conscious Choice.' And these are only the nfics containing > well-worked A- or B-plots which I can think of off the top of my head! Thanks, Wendy! It was a pleasant surprise to see my name mentioned with such an illustrious group! Wendy, Sandy & LoriMcE all made comments about the time of the ceremony. 6pm Eastern was chosen for the same reasons Pam and Kathy mentioned. It seemed to be the best time to accommodate as many as possible. I'd have no problem with changing that if we come up with a better time. But I'm also wondering at this point if it isn't too late for this one. Ideas? Thanks! Dawn ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:51:54 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: Re: OUATIM: comments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit : << We have more id on the car little by little. The number is **14fd5akd7* with * for missing numbers/letters. >> Number, as in license plate number? Seems kinda long for a US license plate number. (Though I know different states use different numbers of characters in their plate numbers.)> Thanks, Yvonne for your astute reply. Yes, I was referring to the serial number on a car, assuming that plates can be more easily altered in the world of nefarious schemes. LaurieD aka Bernie, Bill ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:57:46 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Re: Public opinion on a teaser for The Black Circle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, then you probably shouldn't read The Black Circle as I post it. Wait until I've posted the revised version, ok? Tara ----------------------- "Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" "Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" --crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" ----- Original Message ----- From: Peace To: Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 3:04 PM Subject: Re: Public opinion on a teaser for The Black Circle > Tara, since you asked, my personal preference is to read finished > stories. I know that when I'm writing, I don't want people to see > the first two-three drafts, because I like to have the chance to > change things around. (Besides which, I tend to edit and tweak > all along as I'm writing -- there rarely is a complete "first draft"!) > > Peace > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:36:52 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Cynthia Haste Subject: Re: OUATIM:Henderson to Clark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Laurie Dunn wrote: > The owner sure liked peanut butter. Lots of disintegrated jars. > Sincerely, Henderson Does anyone else get asked why they laugh every time they're confronted by an innocent jar of peanut butter? Cindy -- He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. - Nietzsche The Rules of Chocolate: Chocolate covered raisins, cherries, orange slices & strawberries all count as fruit, so eat as many as you want. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:13:30 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lori McElhaney Subject: Re: NKerth 99 Update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/5/1999 5:23:29 PM Central Daylight Time, rfield@ROANOKE.INFI.NET writes: << Wendy, Sandy & LoriMcE all made comments about the time of the ceremony. 6pm Eastern was chosen for the same reasons Pam and Kathy mentioned. It seemed to be the best time to accommodate as many as possible. I'd have no problem with changing that if we come up with a better time. But I'm also wondering at this point if it isn't too late for this one. Ideas? >> No time is going to be perfect for every time zone - especially when dealing with worldwide FOLCs - I'd just leave it as it is. We'll all just have to plan RL around it - I know I've already "called" the computer as MINE that day. << Lori (Wondering how to bribe the husband to leave with the kids for a few hours) Tell him he gets his own personal "nfic" later. Ann<<<< Let's see, I know I have a few scene fragments on my hard drive that need a little working on . . . . Lori ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:45:38 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel Madden Subject: L&C Tapes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, everyone - I know that this question has been asked before, and I'm apologizing profusely as I'm typing this (just imagine hearing the words "I'm sorry, I'm sorry" over and over again)... Does anyone know of a good site to get Lois and Clark video tapes? I mean, the actual, honest-to-God professional ones instead of my lousy recorded ones that are half static anyway? If anyone knows of a good place, would they please let me know? It would help me out a lot! Thanks! -Rachel :) (who hangs out in the background ) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:51:47 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: Request: Universal Union In-Reply-To: <003c01bf0de1$6052b920$a6471497@cocco> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Likewise, I have part one and part three - where do I find part two? Melisma At 10:52 PM 10/3/99 +0200, you wrote: > Hi everybody is anyone so gentle to tell me where I can find the >beginning of this story? I have only the 2nd and now the 3rd part of it >..... Thanks Tedras >Blue Dragon ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:33:14 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: Nfic In-Reply-To: <19991005154700.50330.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Well, to each there own, but if they're not reading the complete nfic, then >they're missing out on some *fabulous* stories! Most I've read have >wonderful plots and great characterizations. They've been WAFFY, funny, >serious and some have made me cry. I don't exclusively read nfic's, but i >certainly don't discount them either. > >KathR I was gonna avoid involving myself in this, but then realized something... I maintain a fic archive on zip disks, and at first I was segregating all my gfic and nfic to different directories. Then I started asking myself WHY - they are all great stories, so why should I make a distinction between them based on rating? So I put all the gfic and nfic of, for example, Wendy Richards (and *what* an example, Oh Great and Talented One :) in the same folder. I just put a capital N at the end of the nfic titles to let me know which was which. And if, as for example with LabRat's Burnout or Crystal Wimmer's Full Circle (both *fantastic*, tho' I don't remember if I have told either of you this yet, sorry... /me ducks) there is both an nfic and a gfic version, I put a large G at the end of the gfic version, too. So now I can see if I have a story on the archive at any time, and pull out one that will fit whatever mood I am in, easily... Oops, I'm babbling again. /me crawls back under her rock for a few days... Melisma ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:35:22 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:13 PM 10/5/99 -0500, you wrote: >Well, between re-edits, previews, and archive procedure, I think at least >three weeks, perhaps more. > >Thanks, Tara, it's great to know I will have at least one reader! > >Thanks, >Carolyn >cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu Make that two, Carolyn :) Melisma ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 22:38:18 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <00c501bf0f5e$9167baa0$e776d8cf@culturesrestaurant.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:22 PM 10/5/99 -0400, you wrote: >I'd like to emerge from lurkdom to say > >Me too. SO that makes three who want to see a crossover trek/lnc story. I >love Trek and LNC > >Jennifer > >>You mean two! I know Nan will want to read it! She's been watching Star >>Trek for ages, now! I know she'll like a x-over between her two favorite >>shows :-) > >>Tara Wow! It'd be cool to hear from all of you who like both Trek and LnC - I bet there are more of us than we could imagine... I know that I had about 10 people reading a lousy little Trek fic of mine a few months ago, so I know from experience... :D Melisma ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 23:19:31 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: OUATIM: Ellen Lane to Lois In-Reply-To: <199910050253_MC2-879A-5FA1@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My Dearest Darling Lois, >Where are you? I've been trying to call you since last night. I really >wanted to talk to you because what I have to tell you ought to have been >done in person but you don't appear to be home and your cell phone is >either switched off or the dead. > >You are OK? I know Clark and I asked you to investigate but, please >Mother, you haven't done anything foolish? I am *so* sorry to have been out of sight for so long... And right now when it seems that my baby girl needs me, too. But, you see, your father just on a whim decided to treat me to a weekend at Chateau Roberge, and I *really* didn't think I could refuse, not after all this time... My cell phone? Oh, good gracious - I *knew* I forgot something! >On with our news. And remember I have tried to reach you. I even asked >Superman to check out your apartment when he was out on patrol. He came >to dinner last night and kindly gave us an interview for the Planet. >Clark wrote it up and it's good, mother, you should be sure to read it. I will, darling. I have been telling *everyone* I know, to read your paper. I'm so proud of you and Clark, and maybe I don't tell you that very often, and I'm sorry... >Mother, Clark and I are having a baby. Don't you think that's wonderful >news. I'm fine really, just the usual minor ailments, morning sickness( >though whoever named it 'morning' should be sued under the trade >description laws) tiredness, and Clark says not to forget the mood swings, >though I think I'm coping very well. I only shout at him once a day. And >he doesn't mind because he is just so happy about being a Daddy. Oh my heavens, you do know how to make your mother happy!! That *is*, just *wonderful* news! Sweetie, are you *sure* you're ok? I know you and Clark deserve all the time together that you can, before the baby is born, yet I remember how tiring it was to be pregnant. And I didn't even have to work. I can only imagine how it is for you to work when your energy is low, too. So, well, what I'm saying, is - I think I should come and stay with you for a while, at least. I could help you with things around the house, so you could free up the hours you aren't working, so you could rest more, and spend more time with Clark. I would try to stay out of your way, unless you wanted me to be around... I don't know, it's a half-baked thought, but I would *love* to help you if I can. Talk to Clark and see what you think, and let me know... Oh my! I think I'm going to have to get packing! >Mom, please come and see us or get in touch. I'm starting to worry about >you. Maybe it's a hormone thing but I think I need a hug from my mother. I just learned something the other day - let me try it out, okay? {{{{{{LOIS}}}}}} See? That's a cyberhug. I know, it's like a kiss over the telephone, or a straw hat - it's not felt. But I hope that will do until I can see you in person... >I love you, Lois And I love you, too, Your Mother ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:11:00 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Phillip Atcliffe Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:13:46 -0500 Carolyn Schnall wrote: Quoting Tara: >> Yay! a ST:TNG/L&C x-over! How much longer will it take? I can't wait to read it! :-) << > Well, between re-edits, previews, and archive procedure, I think at least three weeks, perhaps more. > Thanks, Tara, it's great to know I will have at least one reader! Oh, you'll have more than _one_, Carolyn... Actually, what I'm looking forward to is that your crossover that features L&C; I read a TNG/Superman crossover once, but that was based on the comics. Having said that, the author (don't ask me who, or where the story is; I didn't keep it) did include Lois and the Kents, so it wasn't just a Supes-in-the-24th-Century story, but I prefer L&C. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------ "Sic Transit Gloria Barramundi" (Or, So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!) -- not Douglas Adams, but me: Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:46:38 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nicole Wolke Subject: Time setting for the nkerth (was:Re: NKerth 99 Update) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Folcs, I just step in as one of the "cranky" Germans < ;-P> Pam mentioned, who were complaining about the late time for the Kerth Award two years ago. I can now tell everyone, that 6 pm EST really works for me, especially after the experience from the second Kerth which (if I remember right) only lasted a little bit more than an hour. I think 1 or 2 am twice a year (Kerth and nKerth) is acceptable for most of us. I must admit, *I* would be much more cranky now , if I was the one who had to stand up so early in the morning as the poor Aussi-Folcs have to! Unfortunately there's no perfect time. That's one of the problems the internet hasn't found a solution to yet . take care Nicole (not cranky anymore, but happily looking forward to another big party on IRC!!!!) -- AKA CKgroupie on IRC NKWolke@eifel-net.net "God, you really have a hard head," he heard her say and he watched her beautiful mouth starting to smile hesitantly. "If I'm going to have a bump and start looking like Frankenstein's monster, you'll have to pay, Mister." Clark wanted to tell her that she could never look like a monster. He wanted to tell her that she was the most beautiful woman he had ever seen. He wanted to ask her out, to marry him and have his kids, but no sound came over his lips. "Heartache tonight", by the L&CFanfiction Team, coming soon (?) to an archive near you. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:45:49 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: NKerth 99 Update In-Reply-To: <004701bf0f80$045d09e0$864498ce@fred> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:14:35 -0400 Rich & Dawn wrote: > Wendy, Sandy & LoriMcE all made comments about the time of the ceremony. > 6pm Eastern was chosen for the same reasons Pam and Kathy mentioned. It > seemed to be the best time to accommodate as many as possible. I'd have no > problem with changing that if we come up with a better time. But I'm also > wondering at this point if it isn't too late for this one. Ideas? Thanks for the thought, Dawn, but it looks as if it does suit more people than not. Since I'm presenting an award, I'll just have to be *very* nice to my husband so he doesn't mind me staying up until 1 or 2 both this Saturday and next. I have to say, after last Saturday's RR marathon he thinks I'm having a cyber-affair! (Oops, better hide those pics of DC as CK I have stored on my hard drive...) Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:00:57 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991005223744.0091e6b0@actcom.co.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:37:22 -0500 Hazel wrote: > TITLE: Honor Among Thieves Hazel, I like this. I like it very much; you seem to be setting us up for something really nasty, and it ends up really very... unexpected. Love Superman's interaction with Henderson, especially the 'secretary' cracks. Why aren't you writing more? Wendy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:11:12 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Guy or Lesley Hilliard Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Count me in on that list too. I am looking forward to reading the crossover too!!! Lesley AKA Ladyhawke >Wow! It'd be cool to hear from all of you who like both Trek and LnC - I >bet there are more of us than we could imagine... I know that I had about >10 people reading a lousy little Trek fic of mine a few months ago, so I >know from experience... :D > >Melisma ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 12:15:44 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Dr Klein [encrypted] In-Reply-To: <4ccb246a.252bc0f2@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Dear Bernie - I think I can call you Bernie now? Thanks for your email. Yes, Lois and I both found that message from Mxyzpltlk in our mailboxes as well. Very strange - in fact, it's really weird. There's no sender details - I tried to remember everything Jimmy taught me about tracing emails, but it was a complete dead end. You won't remember Mxyzpltlk, but most of us have come across him before. Believe it or not - I know, you're a scientist, you won't believe it - he's an imp from the fifth dimension. And he loves to make trouble. Just take my word for it that if he says he created the clone, then that's what he did. At least we know who did it. But we're still wondering whether we should tell Lara. Would you be willing to talk to her? > On another subject, though it probably won't help you find the person behind > the bomb, I think I've figured out how it was set off. The twisted piece of > metal in the rubble was a tuning fork. Not just an ordinary tuning fork, > but... But...? But what? Come on, Bernie, help us out here! Something else. Have you got time to see Lois and me later? It's got to be in private, so you need to make sure no-one else is still around. I can't tell you what it's about - all I can say right now is that it's *extremely* confidential. Let me know, okay? Your friend, Clark Kent. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:08:05 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "C.C. Malo" Subject: OUATIM: Cat to Perry MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perry, <> Thanks for the thought and the compliment, Perry, but I already have a father. Sorry about misspelling Egoyan's name. Surprised you didn't catch it, Chief. :) You *must* be exhausted. Maybe time for a few days R & R -- rock & roll ;) Seriously. BTW, I'll be seeing Jeffers tomorrow. He & the city arts committee are starting to plan publicity for the next Writers & Artists Fest. Cat ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 08:11:43 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "C.C. Malo" Subject: OUATIM: Cat to Lois MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Lois, Wonderful news, Lois!!! I knew it! Thought your behaviour was a little weird, even for you. Bet Clark's "over the moon" (new Brit phrase I picked up). <> You know, I have no idea -- but one thing I do know, you've never lacked courage. <> Surprising isn't it? When I came back to Metropolis after being away so long, I wasn't sure about whether returning to the Planet was such a good idea but it was the best thing I ever did. Not that I regret what I did while I was away :) I think both you and I have learned a lot in the last few years -- as Perry says "our edges are rounder" . Wait a minute, do you think he meant that literally? I'm still the same weight I was when I first joined the Planet. Maybe he just he meant you. <> NOT Playboy, Lois. So what does this aunt's wardrobe look like -- brown suits? <> I e-mailed Jimmy asking him about this. I'm sure he's on it. <> Now this is a huge challenge. MacDonald's a recluse as you know. I've tried for years to get a short interview with him and failed. His security is so tight, it looks sprayed on. But I'll keep trying. What about a challenge -- first one to get to MacDonald buys the other one a year's supply of mineral water? Cat ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:02:45 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Clark to Martha and Jonathan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi Mom, hi Dad! Yes, Lois is fine - well, she's still being sick a lot, but she keeps telling me not to worry. Not worry...? Does she know what it does to me seeing her doubled up over the toilet bowl? But I guess that's normal. Yes, we'd love to come out for dinner at the weekend. There's something else. We found this in our mailboxes this morning: >>>>Greetings, minions! Mxyzpltlk here - MISTER Mxyzpltlk, if you please! You probably remember me - we spent a fun-filled Christmas together only last year. Well, now I'm back again. What do you think of my surprise present? Little Ms Lara Wells? The girl who thinks she was found in the Congo with memory loss? Unfortunately, she's a clone. A nearly dead one, too. Didn't I do a great job? I do believe she's my best work yet. You can't even see the joins! Of course, *she* thinks I'm someone called Professor Wells. Poor thing. Is anyone planning on telling her the truth? I'd love to be around for that revelation! I'd send this to Superman too, only I can't seem to find Mr Big Red Boots' email address. Maybe Mr Kent will pass on the message - and ask Supes what he thinks of the name I gave my little toy. Can't stop - I'm off to cause some mischief in the twenty-second century! See ya! Mxy.<<<< You remember him, of course? He says he created Lara - well, Lois and I can believe *that* easily enough. And it does reassure us a litt,e because for a while there we thought Luthor had come back to create more mischief, or even that it was Tempus. It explains her name as well - you can guess I was bothered about that. So - mystery solved, and I just hope the little imp never bothers to come back again. It does leave us with Lara, who's going to die in a couple of days and doesn't know it! I really don't know what's best to do - should we just leave her in ignorance, or tell her about it? She *looks* so like Lois, though she doesn't behave like her at all. Anyway, if you have any advice, I'd love to talk to you both about it. Love you both, Your son, Clark. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:18:08 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Alice In-Reply-To: <011901bf0f69$497ee960$649a01d4@MFUK.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi Alice, Thanks very much for your email - Lois and I were really pleased to hear from you. You and Perry will have to come over for dinner soon (don't worry, I'll cook)! Yeah, we know what you mean about Perry. His emails to us have been getting a little - well, weird. He actually confused some quotes from Superman's interview with my own writing a few days ago. Lois and I think you're right. He needs to get away. But we know how he feels about the Planet. So yeah, I'll be happy to take over on a temporary basis. Lois and I have talked about it, and we think we can manage to cope better than we did before when she was editor! And it'll only be for a week. So if you want some more leverage to persuade him, tell him I'll stand in for him. And Lois and I will both work on him too - I know Lois has already suggested he take a few days off. Graceland - that'd be just perfect. And tell you what - we'll try to have the bombing solved by the time he gets back! You two take it easy. We don't want to lose Perry either, since you'll both be unofficial grandparents to our child. Clark. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 14:33:18 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Perry [attachment, double encrypted] In-Reply-To: <011701bf0f69$4816cde0$649a01d4@MFUK.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi Chief, Sure, I was able to read your email - why did you encrypt it? There wasn't anything confidential there! > How can I leave right now? Judas Priest, we're just about holding things > together as it is! Chief, hasn't Lois been telling you that for the past week? Look, just go - after all, you can't run the Planet if you're in a hospital bed. Go to Graceland for a week. I can run things if you want a temporary editor - not that Lois couldn't do a better job of it (and I'll deny it if you tell her I said that!) but right now she's suffering and I think she doesn't need the extra stress. > re. Pollack > Watch yourself with him. I got a very odd email from him today, telling me > to be very careful around the presses when I go to meet up with him - > accidents can happen! Ummm. All I know is that Superman seems to trust him - but it wouldn't be the first time Superman was wrong. > re. Pregnancy > You just gotta > learn to be there when she needs you - and not there when she doesn't want > you (boy, did I learn *that* one fast!). It can be a rough ride, but you > two will be just fine. Thanks, Chief. I'll do my best! > re. Underhill > I'm meeting him tonight on his new boat in the marina. I think we all know > where the money for the new boat came from! I guess I'm finally going to > find out what he's got on his mind, but I gotta tell you, this old newshound > is just a little nervous. I can take care of myself, of course, but you > might, ah, mention my meeting to Superman? Already done. Superman asked me to tell you he'll be in shouting distance. If you can't call for help, start singing 'Hound Dog' - he'll be with you before you get to the end of the first line . > re. NTM > Was it you or Lois who asked about NTM? Anyway, all I can tell you is that > Underhill and his buddies used to pick on him mercilessly at school. You mean MacDonald? That's an angle worth looking into. Thanks. Oh - Lara Wells - we seem to have found out who created her. I don't think it's anything dangerous or newsworthy, so if you don't mind I think we should keep it out of the Planet. It's hardly fair on her. > > Off to check the latest circulation figures again, Hope they're getting better. And remember the exclusive I promised you? Lois and I have been looking into that independent Presidential candidate for some time - you know, Russ Pierrot? We finally got people to talk *on the record* about his business interests and the weird rules he insists on, *and* about his party's next run at the Presidency. Wait until you read it... we know who's going to be the candidate! A female country-and-western singer, used to be engaged to a TV star. They think the name recognition will get votes, apparently. Well, Lois and I couldn't believe it...! Anyway, Chief, you get off and book your vacation. And don't worry about tonight - Superman will keep an eye on you. Clark. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 06:44:56 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Request: Universal Union MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mel, it's on August, week three of the listserv archives. http://listserv.edu/archives/loiscla-general-l.html Aug, wk 3 Melisma wrote: > Likewise, I have part one and part three - where do I find part two? > > Melisma > > At 10:52 PM 10/3/99 +0200, you wrote: > > Hi everybody is anyone so gentle to tell me where I can find the > >beginning of this story? I have only the 2nd and now the 3rd part of it > >..... Thanks Tedras > >Blue Dragon ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 06:49:37 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: Request: Universal Union MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oops. I'm terrible about leaving out part of the address. Try http://listserv.indiana.edu/archives/loiscla-general-l.html Nancy Smith wrote: > Mel, it's on August, week three of the listserv archives. > http://listserv.edu/archives/loiscla-general-l.html Aug, wk 3 > > Melisma wrote: > > > Likewise, I have part one and part three - where do I find part two? > > > > Melisma > > > > At 10:52 PM 10/3/99 +0200, you wrote: > > > Hi everybody is anyone so gentle to tell me where I can find the > > >beginning of this story? I have only the 2nd and now the 3rd part of it > > >..... Thanks Tedras > > >Blue Dragon ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 10:03:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hazel, I read this before, but I like your reworking of it :) It's a very neat idea. And the interaction with Henderson was hilarious I think you captured Clark's character very well, although it is hard to tell what season you're using as a setting (probably not first season, though, 'cause it took a while for word of Kryptonite to get around). Lois could know about him, or not ... it works either way. -- ------------------------------------------------------- Pam Jernigan | jernigan@bellsouth.net ChiefPam on IRC | ------------------------------------------------------- "Well, it just so happens that I am a former girlscout." "Good. Because I am a strange visitor from another planet." Lois & Clark, "Ordinary People" ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:12:24 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Henderson In-Reply-To: <1478816b.252bbd3f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Henderson - Superman says he'll stop by the precinct first thing tomorrow morning. Peanut butter? This thing keeps cropping up! Clark Kent. > We have more id on the car little by little. The number is **14fd5akd7* > with * for missing numbers/letters. The car was (definitely "was") a Chevy > van, ivory color. We're running it through our computers for registration, > but there are still quite a few combinations. Does Superman have the skills > needed to do a fast sorting of numbers? If you see him, ask him for me will > you? > > The owner sure liked peanut butter. Lots of disintegrated jars. > Sincerely, Henderson ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 07:42:41 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: OUATIM: Ellen Lane to Lucy In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Honey, Did you hear the news? Lois and Clark are going to have a baby! I'm going to be a grandma! Which means *you* are going to be an auntie! I'm still in shock, you know... Lois seemes really worried that it took her so long to get through to me, but she really doesn't need to, you know. Your father took me to Chateau Roberge last weekend, just on the spur of the moment. It was so *unexpected* that I even forgot to take my cell phone, can you believe it? And the laptop? Well, who can remember little details when Sam Lane is trying to make up for *years* of neglect, right? I was lucky I remembered my toothbrush. Or other necessary things - I'm sure I don't have to draw you a diagram, do I? But anyway, I got her message just as soon as I remembered to log in. And I am *so* excited! I offered to spend some time with them, to help out, you know. But I'm not sure that they won't see it as meddling. Somehow I get the impression that they only tolerate me at times. I don't really understand it. I mean, Lois is my *daughter*. I love her, and I just want to help her out. I can't do her job at the Planet for her, of course, but perhaps I could help around the house and run errands and things, so that she can concentrate on her job and the baby and Clark, and not get so tired. Anyway, I asked her and Clark to think about it, and I'm still waiting for her response. I have to run, sweetie. Hope to hear from you soon. Lots of love, Your Mother ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 11:58:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Emily Angerer Crawford Subject: English errors -- Entertaining site Content-Type: text I'm not sure if this should be labeled OT, but I've enjoyed past discussions on this list about grammar and common mix-ups in English, so I thought I'd pass this reference along. This is a very entertaining site, full of all kinds of confusions! There were several in there that I looked at that I'd been getting wrong (horrors!), and even a few I could be smug about getting right. Here's the URL: http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html Have fun, -Emily -- Emily Crawford/Warbler on IRC ccsupec@helen.oit.gatech.edu "And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover, To entertain these fair well-spoken days, I am determined to prove a villain And hate the idle pleasures of these days." -- Richard III ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 13:50:21 -0500 Reply-To: truitt22@flash.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: timothy truitt Organization: tnt technical services Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I liked it merry Hazel wrote: > TITLE: Honor Among Thieves > PART: 1/1 > AUTHOR: Hazel > RATING: PG > FEEDBACK: Demanded with fists pounding on the desk! Filet it, dissect it, > show me where my mistakes are! And help me figure out if Lois knows CK = S. :) > > Note: This story began as one of Wendy's "30-minute challenges" on Zoom's > message boards. To answer a question many have posed, I chose to post on > the boards instead of here on the list because I was answering the > challenge, which was on the boards. (Duh!) A story with a time limit will, > of necessity, be short and lacking in detail. I needed to flesh it out > before it would qualify as a *real* story. > > Well, I don't think it's a real story yet, but it's getting there. :) This > is my first full draft. I need help, people. What season is it? Does Lois > need an active role? Is Clark acting too intelligent? ;) Do Perry and Jimmy > need speaking roles? Should Clark phone home to Mom and Dad for advice? Are > these people totally out of character? Should my police sergeant be reading > the jokes in "Reader's Digest" instead? > > Please post *all* comments *publicly*. (Well, I'll take nit-picking typos > privately instead of boring the list.) I agree with Sandy -- this is what > this mailing list is for! Any advice I'm given here will surely be of use > to others. I offer fat-free, zero-calorie chocolate chip cookies to all > those who help me -- as soon as Phil finishes with the thought-transfer > machine and invents the recipe, that is. :) Otherwise, they'll just be > cyber-cookies. Those are pretty fat-free anyway. > > Thanks a lot, > > Hazel > _______________________________________ > > Clark Kent's fingers flew across the keyboard, filling the screen with > words designed to evoke a strong emotional response from the reader. It was > about time the authorities did something about the abysmal conditions of > the free health clinic located just outside Hobb's Bay. Perhaps this > wrenching, brutal description of the appalling situation would do some good. > > It felt a little strange to write the article without Lois. While the > investigation had required the combined skills of Lane and Kent to get to > the bottom of the mysterious lack of state funds, Lois conceded that when > it came to writing the story, Clark was better at tugging people's > heartstrings. > > "I'll do the sidebar with all the information this time," she'd offered > generously. "You write the tearjerker." She mock-glared at him. "But you'd > better make sure it's good, or you won't find it so easy to get me to agree > next time!" > > Clark typed the last paragraph of his article, then scrolled back to read > the entire story at once. Yes, this would be a good start. Maybe the > sluggards at City Hall would sit up and take notice for a change... > > The phone on his desk shrilled, interrupting his train of thought. Without > removing his gaze from the screen, Clark lifted the receiver. "Clark Kent." > > "Kent?" rumbled a gravelly baritone. > > "Yes, Inspector," Clark replied, recognizing Henderson's distinctive voice. > He swivelled away from the screen to give his full attention to the phone > call. "What can I do for you?" > > "Can you get in touch with Superman for me?" > > "I might be able to manage that," Clark conceded with a touch of caution. > "Why, what's wrong?" His hand automatically crept upwards to fiddle with > his tie. > > Henderson hesitated for a moment. "I'm not sure I should talk about it over > the phone, Kent. Someone asked me to set up a meeting with Superman. I'm > not sure I like it." > > Clark twiddled the phone cord thoughtfully between his fingers. "Someone > you know, Inspector?" > > Henderson huffed with exasperation. "Look, Kent, I don't have an S-signal, > so just do me a favor and let the big guy know I want to talk to him, okay? > One of these days you'll have to explain to me how you manage to get in > touch with him whenever you want to." > > "Sure, Inspector, some day," Clark said vaguely. 'Say, in fifty years or > so. After I dye my hair mauve.' "I'll try and get word to him for you." > > Clark hung up the phone and stared at his computer screen without seeing > the words he'd typed only minutes before. Someone wanted to meet Superman, > and had chosen to go through Henderson to find him. Why? Why not call on > the team of Lane and Kent, who had written so many stories about Superman > in the past? It had to be someone who thought in terms of the police. A > government employee? A snitch? A politician? > > Only one way to find out, he decided. He quickly read over the story on his > screen one last time, added a few adjectives here and removed a few adverbs > there, and LAN'd it to Perry. A glance at his watch showed that it was > close to one o'clock. He could easily slip away for "lunch" and make a side > trip to see Henderson. > > As he rose from his chair, he couldn't help but take a quick, wistful look > at the empty desk across from him. What a pity that Lois was out again this > morning, meeting a source! He would have appreciated her input. > > Sighing, he waved at Jimmy in passing as he headed for the stairs. Time to > find out exactly what Henderson wanted to discuss. > > *** > > "I'd like to see Inspector Henderson, please." > > "He's busy," mumbled the desk sergeant without looking up from his > magazine. "You got an appointment?" > > "Actually, yes, I do." > > The sergeant reluctantly lifted his eyes from the centerfold. One look at > the imposing figure standing on the other side of the desk sent him leaping > to his feet, scrabbling to hide the magazine under a stack of papers. Clark > politely pretended not to notice. > > "Superman!" the sergeant gasped, practically coming to attention. > "Superman, if you'll -- I mean --" He gulped. "Ah, I'll just check with the > inspector and see if he's available." > > "I'll wait here," Clark said in his best "noble yet reassuring" Superman > voice. "Take your time." > > The sergeant disappeared into the back of the station, only to return > moments later. > > "He's ready for you now, Superman," he announced, beaming at the > brightly-clad hero. "I'll escort you there if you --" > > "Thank you, but that's quite all right," Clark declined. "I know the way. I > wouldn't want to keep you from your... work." > > Clark felt a touch of guilt at that comment as the large man's cheeks > suddenly matched the color of his boots. Best to withdraw gracefully. With > a last reassuring smile, he strode past the desk and went straight to > Henderson's office. Superman had only been there once, but Clark Kent > definitely knew the way. > > "Superman," Henderson grunted as the Man of Steel appeared in his doorway. > "C'mon in, take a seat. I want you to listen to a recording." > > As Clark adjusted his cape and sat down, Henderson fiddled with a machine > on his desk. "Kent did a good, quick job of tracking you down," the man > observed. "Exactly how does he do that?" > > Clark smiled non-committally. "He just manages to find me, that's all." > > Henderson leaned forward. "Well, is there some way we could 'manage' to > find you, Superman? There are times when you're needed, and we just don't > know how to get hold of you." > > Clark shrugged. "Clark Kent seems like a good enough source to me. If you > call him, Inspector, you can be sure that I'll get the message right away." > > Henderson frowned and sat back. "Hmph. I'd rather have a direct line to you > than have to go through your secretary." > > Clark barely managed to choke back a laugh. "Secretary, Inspector?" > > "Ah, forget it," Henderson sighed, waving it away. "We can talk about it > another time. Right now, I want you to listen to this." He pressed a button > on the machine, and Clark watched as the tape wheels began to turn. > > "You know, of course, that we record every call made to the station," > Henderson said as the tape fed itself through the machine. "Once we > realized what was happening, we spliced all the calls together and --" He > stopped as the recording began to play. > > "Police station." > > "I wanna talk to the inspector. To Henderson." > > "Who is this, please?" > > "You don't need to know that. Just gimme Inspector Henderson." > > "Sir, could I please have your name?" > > "No, you can't. I'm calling back in a couple of minutes. Make sure > Henderson is available." > > > > "Police station." > > "Yeah, I called a couple of minutes ago. Let me talk to Henderson." > > "Sir, Inspector Henderson is aware of your previous phone call. He will > talk to you, but I must insist on having your name." > > "Well... if it'll *really* make you happy." "This is George > Washington. Now let me talk to Henderson." > > "One moment please, Mr.... Washington." > > "No, I'm not holding on while you trace this call. I'll call back soon. > Make sure I get through to Henderson then." > > > > Henderson paused the tape and looked up at the intent super-hero. "What do > you think so far?" > > "I think this has little to do with me," Clark said slowly. "The background > sounds seem to indicate the man is talking from a public phone. I would say > he's on a main road -- I heard two buses pass by. He seems to want to talk > with you rather badly and make sure he can't be traced at the same time. > I'd guess that he's walking from one public phone to the next to make sure > he remains safely anonymous." > > "That's what we think, too," Henderson agreed. "The boys did try to trace > it, and they got as far as Hobb's Bay, but the guy just wouldn't stay on > the phone long enough to get a definite number. Here's where it gets more > interesting. We were expecting the call, and I was already listening in." > He released the pause button and sat back. > > "Police station." > > "This is Washington. Let me talk to Henderson." > > "One moment, sir. Please don't hang up." > > "Henderson here. Who is this?" > > "I already said I'm George Washington." > > "Yeah, right. What do you want?" > > "I have some information for you. Information I need you to pass onto > Superman." > > Clark raised his eyebrows, but the recording continued. > > "Get a pen and paper ready, Inspector. I'll call back soon." > > > > "Police Station." > > "This is Washington. Let me talk to Henderson." > > "One moment, sir." > > "This is Henderson. All right, Washington, what do you have for Superman?" > > "Good choice of words, Henderson. I *do* have something for Superman, > something I need to give him. But it's going to have to happen my way." > > "Go on." > > "Tell Superman to meet me tonight in the alley behind Worth and 87th near > Hobb's Bay. I'll be there with something for him." > > "What is it?" > > "Just tell him, Henderson. Make sure he comes alone. No cops. No recorders. > And definitely not those reporter pals of his. If I see anything > suspicious, I won't show. Got that?" > > "Wait a minute --" > > "Sorry, fifty seconds. Make sure he's there." > > > > Henderson shut off the recording. For a long moment, silence filled the > small office. The two men looked at each other thoughtfully. > > "What do you think, Superman?" > > "I'm not sure," Clark said, frowning. "It might mean anything, really." > > "It might be a trap. I'm not sure it would be smart for you to show up. If > you do go, you should take along some backup." > > Clark looked at him, amused. "And what exactly is he going to trap me with?" > > Henderson gave him a level gaze. "You're not as invulnerable as we all like > to think you are," he said pointedly. "This guy is pointing you to a > specific place at a specific time. Sounds like a trap to me." > > Clark, somewhat sobered, spread his hands. "If there really is something > important involved, it would be foolish to scare this man away. I'm willing > to take the risk." > > "C'mon, Superman." Henderson leaned forward. "Let me give you some backup. > I've got some plainclothesmen who could make a better wino than a guy on a > four-day bender, and one policewoman who can make herself look like she > ought to be hauled in for -- well, never mind. But no one has to know the > street scum hanging out at the corner are really on your side." > > Clark stood up and shook his head. "Thank you, Inspector, but no. Anything > suspicious will only leave the matter unresolved. If this involves the > citizens of Metropolis in any way, I'll get back to you. I appreciate your > giving me the message." > > He shook the inspector's hand, then turned to go. With a sudden glint in > his eye, Clark glanced back over his shoulder and added, "By the way, > Henderson, looks like I'll have to tell Kent that the position of secretary > has already been taken." > > He gently closed the door against the sudden explosion of coughs. > > *** > > The bright moon peeked reassuringly through the clouds as Superman hovered > high over the rendezvous point, examining the site for potential traps. > Just outside Suicide Slum, the alley looked like alleys the world over -- > dirty, dark, and dismal. Even the man standing furtively in the shadows > behind a dumpster seemed a natural part of the scenery. Yet if Henderson's > story was right, this was the man who "had something to give to Superman." > > Clark still wasn't sure what to expect. A quick X-ray glance had shown that > "George Washington" had a switchblade in his sock and brass knuckles in his > pocket, but there was no sign of a weapon that could be dangerous to the > Man of Steel. There were no other people nearby who could possibly be part > of an ambush. Unless -- > > Clark's eyes narrowed as he took a closer look at the man's left hand. He > was clutching something. Something that Clark couldn't identify... > > Because it was in a lead box. > > Clark rocketed skywards in panicky reflex as his every sense screamed > "Danger!" Something to give to Superman? Something in a *lead* box? > Kryptonite! > > He forced himself to calm down as he shot through the wispy clouds and lost > sight of "George Washington". Taking a deep breath, he once again focused > on the stranger below. Washington was peering upwards anxiously, squinting > in first one direction and then another in his efforts to catch a glimpse > of the superhero. The box, still in his left hand, was tightly closed. > > Clark considered his options. He couldn't just ignore the man and fly off; > if it *was* Kryptonite, he needed to do something about it now. But how > could he confront Washington, if all the stranger had to do was open the > box and -- > > He stopped short and gazed intently at the dull-colored box that seemed to > exude such menace. He blinked with surprise, then focused again. No, he > wasn't mistaken. > > The box was locked. > > Something was really weird here. > > Clark made up his mind. Taking a deep breath, bracing himself for the > possibility of sudden, searing pain, he flashed downwards in an eyeblink, > snatched the man by the arms, and flew upwards in a heartbeat. Washington > squeaked in astonishment and almost lost his hold of the box, his legs > flailing wildly as he tried to find some purchase. > > As they reached cloud-level, Clark slowed to a halt. He held the man out at > arm's length and let him get a good look at the distance to the ground. If > Washington *did* try to attack him with Kryptonite, they would both suffer > a long plummet to the ground, ending with an ugly, squishy *splat*. > > "S-superman!" the man gasped as his face turned a pasty white. > > "George Washington, I presume?" Clark asked mildly. "You wanted to give me > something?" > > The man swallowed hard. He glanced downwards, then squeezed his eyes > tightly shut. "Could you land somewhere, please?" he said hoarsely. "I > can't --" > > Clark looked carefully at the small box. Yes, it was still locked. He > floated to the nearest rooftop and set Washington down. The man's legs > instantly buckled and he collapsed in a trembling heap. > > Clark stepped back and waited for the man to regain his composure. After a > minute, he said again, "You wanted to give me something?" > > Washington slowly got to his feet. "Yes, Superman," he said. "Here. Take > this." > > Clark stared at the lead box that the man offered him. "What is it?" > > "Don't open it," the man said hastily. "Just take it." > > "What is it?" Clark repeated. > > "It's Kryptonite." > > Clark dropped the box as if it had burned his fingers. > > The man stooped, picked up the box, and offered it to him again. Slowly, > Clark took the box and held it. He felt nothing -- no pain, no weakness, no > nausea. If the box really did hold Kryptonite, the lead protected him. > > "Why?" he asked. > > The man gave a small, crooked smile and shrugged. "Look, Supes, I'll be > honest with you. I'm a crook. I haven't made an honest penny since I > shoveled sidewalks as a kid. But there are crooks and crooks, ya know. > We're not all super-villains." > > He pointed at the box. "I'm not gonna tell you how I ended up with that. > It's not much, really -- maybe the size of a marble. But I know it can hurt > you, so it's better that you get rid of it as soon as possible." > > "I don't understand," Clark said slowly. "You've admitted that you're a > crook..." > > "I may steal, but I'm not a *real* bad guy, okay?" Washington interrupted. > "Maybe you'd put me in prison if you caught me picking pockets, but that > doesn't mean I hate you or want you dead. You're a good man, Supes. You've > done a lot for the world and we all appreciate it. So just take the green > rock and get rid of it, will ya?" > > Clark couldn't help but smile. "I'll do that," he said. He looked at the > man carefully. "And thank you. Maybe I could help you look for some honest > employment...?" > > Washington gave a guttural laugh. "Nice of you to think of it, Supes, but > I'm not lookin' for a reward. Just get me down from here, okay?" > > "Okay." Clark lifted the man in a more gentle hold this time and drifted > down towards street level. > > "Great." Washington dusted himself off, then offered Clark a cocky grin. > "I'll try to keep out of your way, now. I know better than to ask you to > look the other way if we ever meet, uh, professionally, but --" > > Clark simply held out his hand and offered him a warm handshake. "Thanks a > lot," he smiled. "And try to stay on the right side of the law if you can." > > With a heart strangely warmed by the night's events, Superman rose upwards, > eager to make a quick sidetrip to the sun to rid himself of this little > souvenir from home. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:25:47 +0100 Reply-To: Yvonne Connell Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yvonne Connell Subject: OUATIM: Perry to Clark and Lois [with attachments] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Clark, Just got back from freezing my *** off waiting for Underhill to turn up! I waited until parts of me were turning bluer than Elvis' blue suede shoes, but he never came. I don't understand the guy - first he does the old pals act when we've been at loggerheads for years, then he's desperate to meet me and get something off his chest, and then he's not there? He must be more unstable than I thought he was. I got the weirdest email today from someone called Mixyspit. Minions, he called us! Who does he think he is? Anyway, he claims he 'made' Lara - that she's actually a clone. I can't believe we're going through this again. What's more, the poor girl doesn't even know she's a clone. I've attached his email to this, so Lois and you can check it out. >Wait until you read it... we know who's going to be the >candidate! A female country-and-western singer, used to be engaged to >a TV star. They think the name recognition will get votes, >apparently. Well, Lois and I couldn't believe it...! Judas Priest, neither can I! Did you know Robert de Niro is thinking of running for President too? Why can't people stick to what they're good at - I'm not trying to become a rock n roll star, am I? Talking of rock n roll, it looks like Alice is getting her way and dragging me off to Graceland for the week. Can you believe it - she even got James Carlton on her side? He phoned me and *told* me I was going if I wanted to keep my job. Clark, son, I hate to do this to you at such short notice, but I'm afraid I'm gonna have to ask you to be temporary editor while I'm away. I've attached a document giving you contact numbers and addresses, the status of any outstanding stories, details of our contract with the printers - heck, just about anything and everything I could think of. Don't hesitate to phone me if you need more information. Look after the Planet for me, Perry ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:50:38 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: OUATIM: Dr. Klein to Dr. Atcliffe MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Phil! Nice to hear from you. I sent you samples of the chemical involved in the blast at the Daily Planet. My staff is going in circles with it. Either it is a synthesis of sulfuronitrate with merkuromaletate, combined under a tremendous amount of heat, or ... the exciting part, could it be a new element? Bernardium, perhaps? I'm getting too excited here and having a hard time remaining objective. So, please have a look at it. Time machine? you mad professor you. The maths you sent me were truly elegant. Rotating the vector matrix really opened up the possibilities. But does it work? I still think you read too much scifi, old buddy. I gave that rat a pet for you, and I swear she gave me the most gorgeous smile. I do have to watch her though, she loves to get ahold of pencils and chew them up. Archy and Mehitabel ? I don't thinks so.... Carolyn is doing great. She has now returned to the University. STARLabs is currently under strict budget constraints in the hiring spectrum. Otherwise, I would push Carolyn's resume on the personnel department. My best to the wife and kids as always. Bernie ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:58:03 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: OUATIM: Ron to Perry (Double encryption) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Perry, I hope you get this message before you leave for the marina. If not, I'm sorry. I do want to talk to you, and I do have evidence for you, but a source told me that if I want to see tomorrow, I'd better go into hiding for a week. Don't even try to trace this e-mail, I've routed it through too many places for you to get a fix on it. I'll try to stay in touch. Have fun in Graceland. (My sources are VERY thorough). Give my best to Alice. If something should happen to me before you get back, a copy of all the incriminating evidence is in a saftey deposit box at my bank. I think you know where I would keep my key. These guys are ruthless, they make Lex seem like a juvenile delinquent by comparrison. Ron __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:08:30 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Reading Room Stories Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi FoLCs: OK, I'm kind of confused. Saw the list below of stories from the "reading room" but never saw a site addy (URL) and was wondering how to access these stories. There was some discussion about this but I had hoped there was a way one could just find where they are posted and download? Anybody know? Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu > >> A LOVE SO STRONG Harris, Katie > >> A NIGHT TO REMEMBER Caldwell, Kathy > >> A TALE OF TWO JIMMIES > >> A TEMPUS FOR TWO Yearwood, Mark > >> AFTER HE'S GONE Towers, Anne > >> ALL WILL BE RIGHT IN THE END. . . Mariah522 > >> ALWAYS AND FOREVER Yearwood, Mark > >> AN AFFAIR TO REMEMBER Tuetken, Patrick > >> AWOL Meinuk > >> BABY SCENARIO Cohen, Leslie > >> BIG GIRLS CAN LEARN Adrienne (Tennis G146) > >> CLOUDS OF CHANGE Kelly > >> COUNTRY FRIED CHICKEN Torsiello, Chris > >> DESERT STORMS Meinuk > >> DONT FORGET ME Rivas, Jocy > >> FACING THE ENEMY Meinuk > >> FAREWELL LORD KAL-EL,HELLO CK Myers, Deborah > >> HAPPIER THAN 2 PIGS IN SLOP AGJoker > >> LEX FOR THE MOMENT Yearwood, Mark > >> LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON Tuetken, Patrick > >> LOIS LANE KENT Ramroch > >> LOOKING FOR LOIS Crowcroft, Melinda > >> MEL & CLARK AMBPB > >> MISERY LOVES CHOC FUDGE NUT BROWNIES DonnLap > >> MISSION OF LOVE KMcstr > >> MUMMY DEAREST Meinuk > >> MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY Fysteydub > >> NIGHT FLIGHT TO VEGAS Meinuk > >> NO ONE CAN VOODOO LIKE YOU DO Ferraro, Suzanne > >> NO OTHER WAY Dunnfour > >> RETURN OF THE BARON Yearwood, Mark > >> SHALLOW WATERS Meinuk > >> SOME ENCHANTED EVENING Pickson, Kathyrn > >> SOMETIMES THE BULLET IS FASTER Dout T. > >> TEMPUS IS OF THE ESSENCE Byrne, Craig > >> THE DAY OF TEMPUS Byrne, Craig > >> THE ICE MAN COMETH Yearwood. Mark > >> THE LONG ROAD KMcstr > >> THE LOVE THAT RISKS NOTHING KMcstr > >> THE TRUTH ABOUT VINNIE LAWRENCE DonnLap > >> THIS MAGIC MOMENT Harris, Katie > >> TO LOVE OR NOT TO LOVE MacMillan, Katie > >> UNTITLED Lunaccy > >> WALKING IN SUNSHINE Riter, DJ > >> WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND Amy (AMSprfn) > >> WHAT IF Meinuk > >> WHEN YOUR FATHERS A SCIENTIST Caldwell, Kathy > >> WORLD WITHOUT A SUPERMAN Tuetken, Patrick > >> WORLDS APART Amy&Barb > >> X MARKS THE SPOT Brady, CA > >> YOUR IN MY HEART Meinuk > >> ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:21:05 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991005223522.008b15b0@pop.intergate.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OK:) Delighted to have an audience, which I hope will not be disappointed!!! Still reading your stuff, btw:) Told you I'm slooooooooooooooooow:) Carolyn >At 02:13 PM 10/5/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Well, between re-edits, previews, and archive procedure, I think at least >>three weeks, perhaps more. >> >>Thanks, Tara, it's great to know I will have at least one reader! >> >>Thanks, >>Carolyn >>cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu > >Make that two, Carolyn :) > >Melisma ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:23:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19991005223818.008513b0@pop.intergate.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes, I must say I am pleasantly surprise at how many people have expressed an interest. OTOH: I believe about 60 FoLCs have requested my ST:TNG nfic from Joyce (who was kind enough to carry it even though it is OT), so I guess I should have known there would be a few interested people:) Carolyn >At 02:22 PM 10/5/99 -0400, you wrote: >>I'd like to emerge from lurkdom to say >> >>Me too. SO that makes three who want to see a crossover trek/lnc story. I >>love Trek and LNC >> >>Jennifer >> >>>You mean two! I know Nan will want to read it! She's been watching Star >>>Trek for ages, now! I know she'll like a x-over between her two favorite >>>shows :-) >> >>>Tara > >Wow! It'd be cool to hear from all of you who like both Trek and LnC - I >bet there are more of us than we could imagine... I know that I had about >10 people reading a lousy little Trek fic of mine a few months ago, so I >know from experience... :D > >Melisma ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:24:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: <005001bf0feb$8d47fe20$84eda1d1@ns.idirect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Count me in on that list too. I am looking forward to reading the crossover >too!!! > > >Lesley AKA Ladyhawke > > >>Wow! It'd be cool to hear from all of you who like both Trek and LnC - I >>bet there are more of us than we could imagine... I know that I had about >>10 people reading a lousy little Trek fic of mine a few months ago, so I >>know from experience... :D >> >>Melisma Thanks, Lesley, trying to get edits done now:) Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:24:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) Comments: To: Hazel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hazel, you wanted feedback, so here goes. Yes, Lois should have an active role. Perry and Jimmy can provide depth to a story, but both of them are not entirely necessary. If Lois knows, then it needs to be season 3 or 4, unless it is at the VERY end of season 2. If CK can't talk to Lois, then he should talk to M&J. Your police sgt. can read anything you want him to. <<"Sure, Inspector, some day," Clark said vaguely. 'Say, in fifty years or so. After I dye my hair mauve.' >> LOL! <<>> Does this mean you want Lois to know??? <> Very Clark-like dialogue. Cookies not required, but I'd like feedback on my next story. __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:30:47 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: How much explanation needed? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Phil: >On Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:13:46 -0500 Carolyn Schnall > wrote: > >Quoting Tara: >>> Yay! a ST:TNG/L&C x-over! How much longer will it take? I can't wait >to read it! :-) << > >> Well, between re-edits, previews, and archive procedure, I think at >least three weeks, perhaps more. > >> Thanks, Tara, it's great to know I will have at least one reader! > >Oh, you'll have more than _one_, Carolyn... Actually, what I'm >looking forward to is that your crossover that features L&C; I read a >TNG/Superman crossover once, but that was based on the comics. Having >said that, the author (don't ask me who, or where the story is; I >didn't keep it) did include Lois and the Kents, so it wasn't just a >Supes-in-the-24th-Century story, but I prefer L&C. > >Phil >------------------------------------------------------------ >"Sic Transit Gloria Barramundi" > (Or, So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!) > -- not Douglas Adams, but me: Phil Atcliffe > (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) Well, Dr. Phi (may talk to Bernie later):) I should have known, since we both like a&m:) Now I'm curious about the other one you read! Actually, I thought it would be fun to have Supes in Picard's domain (visions of red, yellow and blue Spandex in a transporter beam) but this story is more aboout Clark, in BE....:) Toujours gai, Toujours gai, Carolyn ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:04:59 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:24 PM 06/10/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hazel, you wanted feedback, so here goes. Thanks, Joy! :) >Yes, Lois should have an active role. But what active role should she have in such a story? The typical argument "I'm going, no you're not, yes I am, Lo-is!" Should she barge in on the meeting with Henderson and Superman? Have a quiet conversation with Clark before he goes to meet "George Washington"? It's hard to determine which kind of role to give her if I don't even know if she knows CK=S! >Perry and Jimmy can provide depth to a story, but both of them are not >entirely necessary. I wasn't asking whether Perry and Jimmy belong in any story, but rather whether they belong in this one... do they? >If Lois knows, then it needs to be season 3 or 4, unless it is at the VERY >end of season 2. Right. And I can't figure out what season this is. Help! >If CK can't talk to Lois, then he should talk to M&J. Hmm... So Clark is incapable of deciding things on his own? This was one of my questions. While I hardly see it as a lack of self-confidence to consult others, does Clark really have to discuss *everything* with *somebody* before making a decision? If that's the case, it's a good thing he doesn't have to eat, or he'd never have breakfast. ><<look at the empty desk across from him. What a pity that Lois was out again >this morning, meeting a source! He would have appreciated her input.>>> > >Does this mean you want Lois to know??? Well, Joy, if I knew the answer to *that* one... Clark could have meant "I wish I could discuss whether or not Superman should see Henderson" or "Do you think I should tell Superman about this, Lois?" Take your pick. I can't decide. :) >Cookies not required, but I'd like feedback on my next story. It's a deal! Thanks, Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:45:55 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Norman Mayes Subject: Re: Reading Room Stories MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Carolyn This list is from a bulletin board area on AOL. It is no longer accessible. I posted the list hoping to get some of the authors to send them to the archive. Some authors have done so, some are no longer around. Bud Mayes ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 18:04:54 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Stephani E. VanWert" Subject: OUATIM: Jimmy to Clark, Lois and Kat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys. Sorry it's taken so long for me to get in touch with you...I've been tied up...literally. I was sneaking around McDonald's office and one of his guys caught me and had me tied up...I got away (only because someone was sleeping on the job) but not before I found something interesting...McDonald has a stack of receipts, all of them for the amount of 2 mill. I hope that helps! I'm still hiding out in case McDonald sends his men after me...think we can get Superman to track them down? Jimmy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:15:25 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the great website. And now I'll use this opportunity to crank (yes, pun intended} up my bullhorn and sound off about a couple of usages I keep running into in the fanfic. The first is the misspelling of "all right" as "alright". This "word" is only spelled one way--as 2 words. Everyone confuses it with "all ready" and "already" . Second, is the misuse of "There's" , "Here's" and "There's" followed by a plural subject., as in "There's bombs dropping everywhere", "Here's the books you wanted" and Where's the newspapers." These words have very definite meanings and if you think about it, would you really say, "There is bombs dropping everywhere", "Here is the books you wanted" and "Where is the newspapers". My husband, an old Indiana boy, asks me the last question all the time and my reply is always, "They is on the table." Since language is a living changing thing, I have no doubt from the prevalence of these particular mistakes, that they will someday be accepted as correct. However, despite their frequent appearance on TV, and in newspapers and magazines about the entertainment industry, these usages are not yet acceptable. We must hold our ground! After all, writers are supposed to be the last defenders standing against the language barbarians. OK, I'm disappearing before you start to throw things. Jude ----- Original Message ----- From: Emily Angerer Crawford To: Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 1999 8:58 AM Subject: English errors -- Entertaining site > I'm not sure if this should be labeled OT, but I've enjoyed past discussions > on this list about grammar and common mix-ups in English, so I thought I'd > pass this reference along. This is a very entertaining site, full of all > kinds of confusions! There were several in there that I looked at that I'd > been getting wrong (horrors!), and even a few I could be smug about getting > right. Here's the URL: > > http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html > > Have fun, > > -Emily > -- > Emily Crawford/Warbler on IRC ccsupec@helen.oit.gatech.edu > > "And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover, To entertain these fair > well-spoken days, I am determined to prove a villain And hate the idle > pleasures of these days." -- Richard III ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 15:35:25 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Lex Luthor's Attorney MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know the name of the law firm Sheldon Bender worked for? I'm in the early stages of plotting a story, and I need to know if there was a specific name, or if I can just make one up. Also, did they mention the name of the building in which the law firm was housed? Last, but not least, does anyone know where the Superman clone was grown? Was it Lex Labs, or was it somewhere else? Nan Smith ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:27:49 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > However, despite their frequent appearance on TV, and in newspapers and > magazines about the entertainment industry, these usages are not yet > acceptable. We must hold our ground! After all, writers are supposed to be > the last defenders standing against the language barbarians. Jude, LOL! That's true, and I work hard to make sure my writing is grammatically correct. However, that's only true of narrative--*not* dialog. I had a character in Faster Than a Speeding Bullet say, "There's over 300 people on the space station," and Kathy Brown, my editor, immediately called me on the usage. I pointed out that the *character* was misusing it--and left it as it was. Yvonne and I recently had a similar discussion regarding lay/lie. In a story I had Clark say, "Lay down," and she thought he would have used the correct form and said, "Lie down." I explained that Clark, Dean, and I all share a similar accent, and "lay down" is the normal spoken usage in this part of the country, even for those of us who *know* that it's wrong. So unless Clark had worked hard on correcting that particular error in his speech, he would have used "lay" instead of "lie" in speech. But even if he'd corrected it, *Dean* would have said it wrong, anyway! Sheila (who really obsesses over very tiny details) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:51:13 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Quite true, Sheila. Erin, who is *my* editor, called me on the same thing. I pointed out that *Jimmy* was using the slang, not me. I always try to be grammatically correct unless the usage sounds awkward, in which case I fudge a little. Stories in which the narrative is grammatically incorrect drive me crazy because it distracts me from the story. Punctuation, however, is another matter. When it comes to that, I'd be dead without my editor. Nan Sheila Harper wrote: > > However, despite their frequent appearance on TV, and in newspapers and > > magazines about the entertainment industry, these usages are not yet > > acceptable. We must hold our ground! After all, writers are supposed to > be > > the last defenders standing against the language barbarians. > > Jude, LOL! That's true, and I work hard to make sure my writing is > grammatically correct. However, that's only true of narrative--*not* > dialog. I had a character in Faster Than a Speeding Bullet say, "There's > over 300 people on the space station," and Kathy Brown, my editor, > immediately called me on the usage. I pointed out that the *character* was > misusing it--and left it as it was. Yvonne and I recently had a similar > discussion regarding lay/lie. In a story I had Clark say, "Lay down," and > she thought he would have used the correct form and said, "Lie down." I > explained that Clark, Dean, and I all share a similar accent, and "lay down" > is the normal spoken usage in this part of the country, even for those of us > who *know* that it's wrong. So unless Clark had worked hard on correcting > that particular error in his speech, he would have used "lay" instead of > "lie" in speech. But even if he'd corrected it, *Dean* would have said it > wrong, anyway! > > Sheila > (who really obsesses over very tiny details) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 17:37:50 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Cynthia Haste Subject: Re: OUATIM: Ron to Perry (Double encryption) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joy Sowell wrote: > If something should happen to me before you get back, a copy of all the > incriminating evidence is in a saftey deposit box at my bank. I think you > know where I would keep my key. Bet it's in a peanut butter jar Cindy -- He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. - Nietzsche The Rules of Chocolate: Chocolate covered raisins, cherries, orange slices & strawberries all count as fruit, so eat as many as you want. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:44:10 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sheila wrote: >> Jude, LOL! That's true, and I work hard to make sure my writing is >> grammatically correct. However, that's only true of narrative--*not* >> dialog. I had a character in Faster Than a Speeding Bullet say, "There's >> over 300 people on the space station," and Kathy Brown, my editor, >> immediately called me on the usage. I pointed out that the *character* was >> misusing it--and left it as it was. Yvonne and I recently had a similar >> discussion regarding lay/lie. In a story I had Clark say, "Lay down," and >> she thought he would have used the correct form and said, "Lie down." I >> explained that Clark, Dean, and I all share a similar accent, and "lay down" >> is the normal spoken usage in this part of the country, even for those of us >> who *know* that it's wrong. So unless Clark had worked hard on correcting >> that particular error in his speech, he would have used "lay" instead of >> "lie" in speech. But even if he'd corrected it, *Dean* would have said it >> wrong, anyway! LOL, Sheila. The dialogue question is something Becky and I tussle over frequently. But I refuse (most times anyway) to have my dialogue fixed. People do not always speak in precisely correct grammatical terms and there's, where's as well as a perennial favourite of mine that's had more than one proofer spluttering that it isn't a word - what'd - appear frequently in casual conversations every day. Sure, they don't make sense when you pull them apart and analyse them, but when has that every stopped half the world using them? And yup, Becky, that includes wrongly using nauseous instead of nauseated. :P. On the second point, thanks for reassuring me that I'm not entirely crazy. ;) I did accede in Caped Fear to changing Clark saying lay instead of lie when two proofers objected to it. Personally though, I thought it was in character for Clark....but I was beginning to wonder if I was letting my imagination run riot again. Let's start an anarchists' club! You can be President and I'll be Second in Command. LabRat :) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS! "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H. L. Mencken ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:23:18 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Time setting for the nkerth (was:Re: NKerth 99 Update) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/6/99 4:35:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, NKWolke@EIFEL-NET.NET writes: << "God, you really have a hard head," he heard her say and he watched her beautiful mouth starting to smile hesitantly. "If I'm going to have a bump and start looking like Frankenstein's monster, you'll have to pay, Mister." Clark wanted to tell her that she could never look like a monster. He wanted to tell her that she was the most beautiful woman he had ever seen. He wanted to ask her out, to marry him and have his kids, but no sound came over his lips. "Heartache tonight", by the L&CFanfiction Team, coming soon (?) to an archive near you. >> Hey German L&CFanfiction Team, this better be coming soon. It sounds terrific. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:54:13 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Ann E. McBride" Subject: Re: Lex Luthor's Attorney MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/6/99 6:37:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, deimos1@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << Does anyone know the name of the law firm Sheldon Bender worked for? I'm in the early stages of plotting a story, and I need to know if there was a specific name, or if I can just make one up. Also, did they mention the name of the building in which the law firm was housed? Last, but not least, does anyone know where the Superman clone was grown? Was it Lex Labs, or was it somewhere else? >> Nan, I don't remember them ever mentioning the name of the law firm that Bender worked for. I would think that it would have his name in it -- surely Lex would only deal with a full partner. Something along the lines of Bender, Matthews and Smythe, maybe. As to the lab, for some reason I always had the impression that it was in a building owned by Lex, so maybe LexLabs. Ann ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 21:03:51 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Dennis A Arendt Subject: Re: Heartache Tonight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uh, just how soon is soon? Brenda ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:30:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: dialogue (was English errors) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >LOL, Sheila. The dialogue question is something Becky and I tussle over >frequently. But I refuse (most times anyway) to have my dialogue fixed. >People do not always speak in precisely correct grammatical terms People practically *never* speak in correct grammar. This past week for my fiction-writing course we had to tape-record conversations, transcribe them, then change them into dialogue suitable for a piece of fiction. Not only did the exersize teach me what boring things my friends and I talk about but we all learned that real conversation is filled with nonsense words (uh, like, um), repeated words, coughs, pauses, etc. It we all wrote exactly like we spoke, no one would ever want to read it. Instead, our professor suggested that dialogue is like the highlights of a conversation- take the best parts and clean them up a little so that the characters, while still sounding like people (rather than grammar texts), say something to advance the story. So, please, do refuse to change realistic dialogue to grammatically correct dialogue. And use contractions; there's nothing more odd 'hearing' Clark say something like, "Lois, we do not know if he is guilty. Let us go interview him." -Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu * * * * * * * * * * "Life is like an onion; you peel off one layer at a time and sometimes you weep." -Carl Sandburg ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:31:43 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/6/99 6:43:20 PM EST, sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes: << Sheila (who really obsesses over very tiny details) >> Hee hee. I share that SAME accent that you, Clark and Dean have! Alexis ;-.) {one of the many West Coast inhabitants} ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:37:14 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Lex Luthor's Attorney MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/6/99 8:56:16 PM EST, Aerm1@AOL.COM writes: << As to the lab, for some reason I always had the impression that it was in a building owned by Lex, so maybe LexLabs. Ann >> I always thought the clone was created in a lab that was inside Lex's home or whatever you call it. Or is that place in his home, LexLabs? Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:56:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site In-Reply-To: <000d01bf1048$4b91cf80$92709cd1@v1t9j4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:15 PM -0700 10/6/99, Judith Williams wrote: > Second, is the misuse of "There's" , "Here's" and "There's" followed >by a plural subject., as in "There's bombs dropping everywhere", "Here's the >books you wanted" and Where's the newspapers." > We must hold our ground! After all, writers are supposed to be >the last defenders standing against the language barbarians. OK, I'm >disappearing before you start to throw things. Jude I agree with you, Jude, that just because an incorrect usage is becoming common doesn't mean it *should* become common. However, I do make a distinction in your above examples between narrative and dialogue. In the above example, let's say "Here's the books you wanted" were followed by "said Jimmy". As an editor, I may or may not point out the grammatically error. For right or wrong, this *is* how people talk some of the time, and if the author is trying to capture authentic sounding conversation, I would not dispute that. For example, I think we've discussed before Clark's way of speaking ... he uses "gonna" regularly. If someone were editing my story and insisted that I need to change my sentence because "going to" is the grammatically correct way to spell it, I'd get myself another editor. To give a recent example from my own writing, I am not very consistent at using "lay" and "lie" correctly, as Wendy can attest. She's been keeping me honest on this ... "Clark laid on the bed" is wrong; "Clark lay on the bed" is right. However, when usage is incorrect in dialogue, the way she points it out is different: "correct would be 'laid' there, unless you think Lois would get it wrong." At that point, it's up to me as the author to say whether that was an intentional error or not. I think this is an important distinction, for both writers and editors. *However*, I would also add that it is very important for writers and editors to know what is proper and correct. You can't take liberties with the language unless you know the rules you are breaking. Otherwise, you are just making mistakes. Kathy (who just noticed that several other people responded the exact same way to this thread ... LOL! Geez, if I hadn't just spent all this time writing up the post, I'd probably just delete it. ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 23:57:26 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: OT: Happy Anniversary! ;) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Although the show has gone off the air, {meaning no more new eps} I just wanted to take a moment to wish the characters of Lois and Clark, VERY SUPER 3rd Anniversary! YAY!!! ;) Luv, Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:05:13 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Just wondering..... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone... I am currently posting a fic in progress on Zoom's boards, and I was wondering if anyone wants me to post it here... it is not even close to being finished, but with the current topics of conversation on the list, I was wonedering if I should post it here now, while it is still in progress or later, when I have finally finished it. Alicia ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:35:49 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Bain Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site In-Reply-To: <004701bf105d$3f781320$9d36883e@d9t5t7> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I loved the grammar site! And have bookmarked it for future reference. LabRat said: >And yup, Becky, that includes wrongly using >nauseous instead of nauseated. :P. And I will continue to point out that it's wrong every time you do it. If anybody wants to see "nauseous" used =correctly=, it's in my story Timeless. Christy said: >we all learned that real conversation is filled with nonsense words (uh, like, >um), repeated words, coughs, pauses, etc. It we all wrote exactly like we >spoke, no one would ever want to read it. Ha! I seem to recall making this exact point during the long and sometimes contentious editing of CF. Christy, they can be anarchists if they want to, let's start a Save Our Language movement. Becky rbain@uswest.net "The difference between the right word and the nearly right word is the same as that between lightning and the lightning bug." - Mark Twain ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:18:40 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yael Kfir Subject: New address Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had just about enough with Hotmail. Please note my new E-mail Zaglembia@mail.com Yael. ----------------------- - Oh, god... - Zod. (Superman II) ----------------------- __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:27:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sorry I've been so inactive over the last couple of days. I have a very bad cold -- perhaps flu -- don't know. Missed work a few days and everything. Since Hazel's piece was short, I thought I could tackle that without falling off my chair, but for Charlotte's -- since it's longer -- I'd like to print it out when I get to work again. Sandy ************************************ Hazel wrote: > > TITLE: Honor Among Thieves > PART: 1/1 > AUTHOR: Hazel > RATING: PG > FEEDBACK: Demanded with fists pounding on the desk! Filet it, dissect it, > show me where my mistakes are! And help me figure out if Lois knows CK = S. :) Um ... Uh ... OKAY! First off, I think you did a great job of keeping my interest without involving Lois, Perry, Jimmy or any of our usual characters. It was obvious you spent time thinking about these "secondary" people, putting flesh on their bones, and showing how Clark/Superman would interact with them and, frankly, sometimes we either get cardboard cutouts or no other new characters in some fics. > Well, I don't think it's a real story yet, but it's getting there. :) This > is my first full draft. I need help, people. What season is it? Perhaps second, but could be third as well. (See below.) > Does Lois need an active role? Not in what you've done thus far. You can have a story without her at all if you like. However, I think it depends on what stage their relationship's in. If it's third season and Lois knows his other identity, even if they aren't married, he would -- or should -- talk to her at some point about what happened. Second season, he couldn't tell her much. > Is Clark acting too intelligent? ;) No. He's a big boy. He can think for himself. > Do Perry and Jimmy need speaking roles? Once again, thus far -- no. > Should Clark phone home to Mom and Dad for advice? About what? > Are these people totally out of character? Well, since two of the characters are Hazel originals and Henderson was not well-defined, none of these can be totally out of character. (See below re a brief comment on Henderson.) As for Clark, he seems just fine. > Should my police sergeant be reading the jokes in > "Reader's Digest" instead? No ... what you did was funny (and much more realistic). You made the guy human.... You could've surprised the reader a little by having the officer appear to be looking at a centerfold, but when caught by Superman, he quickly turns it around and reveals a poster of a pure bred dog. Perhaps he's a dog fancier who enters all the shows with his Fido, but he can't let the other guys know that or his rep will be ruined, *so* he hides it behind a girly mag. _______________________________________ > > Clark typed the last paragraph of his article, then scrolled back to read > the entire story at once. Yes, this would be a good start. Maybe the > sluggards at City Hall would sit up and take notice for a change... I know you said that mentioning "typos" can be boring, but in this case it might prove generally helpful, and if *I'm* wrong on my suggestions, I want to know it so I can reorient my own thinking. Anyway, at the end of a sentence which includes an ellipsis, you should include a period + three additional dots.... > The phone on his desk shrilled, interrupting his train of thought. Without > removing his gaze from the screen, Clark lifted the receiver. "Clark Kent." > > "Kent?" rumbled a gravelly baritone. Actually, I thought Henderson's voice seemed kind of twangy, (but I know you may not have heard it). Others may disagree. If you haven't seen what he (that is, the actor) looks like, go to http://www.amazon.com and type in his name in the search engine (Richard Belzer) and you should find his book (Ufos, JFK and Elvis : Conspiracies You Don't Have to Be Crazy to Believe). He's pictured on the cover. or go to: http://www.nbc.com/lawandordervictims/ And select his name in the "pick a star" search engine. > "Can you get in touch with Superman for me?" > > "I might be able to manage that," Clark conceded with a touch of caution. > "Why, what's wrong?" His hand automatically crept upwards to fiddle with > his tie. Very good. > As he rose from his chair, he couldn't help but take a quick, wistful look > at the empty desk across from him. What a pity that Lois was out again this > morning, meeting a source! He would have appreciated her input. Hmm. His wanting to talk suggests third season, because, during the second season, Lois was still out of the loop and Clark probably would have welcomed being able to leave the office without having to explain anything. If second season, he *might* have asked her what she thought re contacting Superman, but she probably would have wanted to go along and be involved. So, I bet he would have kept the whole phone conversation quiet. > "Thank you, but that's quite all right," Clark declined. "I know the way. I > wouldn't want to keep you from your... work." > > Clark felt a touch of guilt at that comment as the large man's cheeks > suddenly matched the color of his boots. Best to withdraw gracefully. With > a last reassuring smile, he strode past the desk and went straight to > Henderson's office. Superman had only been there once, but Clark Kent > definitely knew the way. This segment with the sergeant was very good. You put some meat on this guy's bones. One little thing above, "the large man's cheeks suddenly matched the color of his boots." Whose boots? I mean, *I know,* but it could be interpreted as the sergeant's boots. > "Superman," Henderson grunted as the Man of Steel appeared in his doorway. > "C'mon in, take a seat. I want you to listen to a recording." semicolon after c'mon in(?) > "Well... if it'll *really* make you happy." "This is George > Washington. Now let me talk to Henderson." Or, replace the stage direction, with "happy...." > "I think this has little to do with me," Clark said slowly. Why did he say this? Maybe Henderson just wanted his help. You might want to replace "slowly" with "puzzled." > "I have some information for you. Information I need you to pass onto > Superman." Aha! > Henderson gave him a level gaze. "You're not as invulnerable as we all like > to think you are," he said pointedly. "This guy is pointing you to a > specific place at a specific time. Sounds like a trap to me." Since you used the word, "pointedly." I'd use something other than "pointing" in the next sentence: steering you? > "C'mon, Superman." Henderson leaned forward. "Let me give you some backup. > I've got some plainclothesmen who could make a better wino than a guy on a Two words, I think: plainclothes men > four-day bender, and one policewoman who can make herself look like she > ought to be hauled in for -- well, never mind. But no one has to know the > street scum hanging out at the corner are really on your side." nevermind: one word > He shook the inspector's hand, then turned to go. With a sudden glint in > his eye, Clark glanced back over his shoulder and added, "By the way, > Henderson, looks like I'll have to tell Kent that the position of secretary > has already been taken." By whom? Henderson? Cute. One thing, as Superman, Clark is *very* polite. He wouldn't just call the guy "Henderson" or even refer to "Kent." Well ... definitely not "Henderson." Always Inspector or Inspector Henderson. > Clark rocketed skywards in panicky reflex as his every sense screamed > "Danger!" Something to give to Superman? Something in a *lead* box? > Kryptonite! All I kept thinking was "Danger, Will Robinson!" Sorry, I'm having a 60's flashback. > The box was locked. Maybe he has a key. > Clark made up his mind. Taking a deep breath, bracing himself for the > possibility of sudden, searing pain, he flashed downwards in an eyeblink, > snatched the man by the arms, and flew upwards in a heartbeat. Washington > squeaked in astonishment and almost lost his hold of the box, his legs > flailing wildly as he tried to find some purchase. Very smart move. I think Clark would think of it ... except, during third season, when he lost his brain. > "It's Kryptonite." I'm not sure kryptonite is capped. Is it? Are other rocks and minerals? > Clark couldn't help but smile. "I'll do that," he said. He looked at the > man carefully. "And thank you. Maybe I could help you look for some honest > employment...?" This is so Clark, Hazel. ************ Hazel: This was very nice, as I said above. You kept my interest throughout the entire piece using only Clark and side characters or characters of your own creation. Never once did I think, "Well, where's Lois?" or "Let's flip passed this scene which isn't romantic and where Clark interacts with people I don't know." And, I think that's because you put as much work into bringing these other characters to life (using little details and interesting reactions) as you have Clark. Also, it's fun to see Clark/Superman interact with people we don't know, who might see him in a new and interesting way and vice versa. ************* Looky! Lisa taught me how to make a sig file. -- Sandy smcdermin@erols.com http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 01:34:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: Just wondering..... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alicia Utowski wrote: > > Hi everyone... > > I am currently posting a fic in progress on Zoom's boards, and I was > wondering if anyone wants me to post it here... it is not even close to being > finished, but with the current topics of conversation on the list, I was > wonedering if I should post it here now, while it is still in progress or > later, when I have finally finished it. > > Alicia Well, I know I like it, but not everybody does. I've noticed a slight, but steady drop in the subscribers. Can't say what's caused that. -- Sandy smcdermin@erols.com http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 08:44:03 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nicole Wolke Subject: Re: Heartache Tonight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ann wrote: > Hey German L&CFanfiction Team, this better be coming soon. It sounds > terrific. > and then Brenda wrote: > Uh, just how soon is soon? Uh oh... Okay, I admit, even the german version isn't ready yet. But we're working hard! Our goal is to bring it into the archive this year! Nicole (running back writing. It's her turn...) -- AKA CKgroupie on IRC NKWolke@eifel-net.net "God, you really have a hard head," he heard her say and he watched her beautiful mouth starting to smile hesitantly. "If I'm going to have a bump and start looking like Frankenstein's monster, you'll have to pay, Mister." Clark wanted to tell her that she could never look like a monster. He wanted to tell her that she was the most beautiful woman he had ever seen. He wanted to ask her out, to marry him and have his kids, but no sound came over his lips. "Heartache tonight", by the L&CFanfiction Team, coming soon (?) to an archive near you. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 02:22:13 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) In-Reply-To: <37FC2F5A.708B2C42@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sandy, thank you for your insightful (as always) comments, and hope you're feeling better. >> Does Lois need an active role? > >Not in what you've done thus far. You can have a story without her at >all if you like. However, I think it depends on what stage their >relationship's in. If it's third season and Lois knows his other >identity, even if they aren't married, he would -- or should -- talk to >her at some point about what happened. Second season, he couldn't tell >her much. When I first wrote this story for the 30-minute challenge, I left Lois out because I didn't want to try to write her. :) I don't think I want Lois in the story; I think Clark should be able to reason things out on his own. "Stronger than me alone" and all that, yes, but he *has* to be a little strong on his own. Doesn't he? :) >> Should Clark phone home to Mom and Dad for advice? > >About what? Well, about this. He seems to do that a lot in the transcripts and fanfic that I've read. "Mom, what do you think I should do?" "What's wrong, honey?" "Well... " "What do you think you should do, sweetheart?" "Well, maybe I should... " "It's up to you, Clark." "Thanks for your help, Mom." :) Seriously, that does seem to be the trend -- Martha tends to be more a sympathetic listener than a dispenser of advice. Again, I like to think that Clark is an adult who can handle problems on his own, but I wanted to ask the list's opinion. (Can a list have an opinion? Um...) > _______________________________________ >> >> Clark typed the last paragraph of his article, then scrolled back to read >> the entire story at once. Yes, this would be a good start. Maybe the >> sluggards at City Hall would sit up and take notice for a change... > >I know you said that mentioning "typos" can be boring, but in this case >it might prove generally helpful, and if *I'm* wrong on my suggestions, >I want to know it so I can reorient my own thinking. Anyway, at the end >of a sentence which includes an ellipsis, you should include a period + >three additional dots.... Right, we discussed this a while back. Thanks, I'll fix that. >> "Kent?" rumbled a gravelly baritone. > >Actually, I thought Henderson's voice seemed kind of twangy, (but I know >you may not have heard it). Others may disagree. Hmm. What do others say about this? (This is one of my problems, as many of you know.) Thanks for pointing to picture sites, Sandy, but Pam & Co. kindly included a pic of Henderson in Phil's finale to S6. I made his voice gravelly because of his personality. What kind of accent does he have? Is he Southern, a New Yorker, a Mid-Westener? Help me out, FoLCs! > >> As he rose from his chair, he couldn't help but take a quick, wistful look >> at the empty desk across from him. What a pity that Lois was out again this >> morning, meeting a source! He would have appreciated her input. > >Hmm. His wanting to talk suggests third season, because, during the >second season, Lois was still out of the loop and Clark probably would >have welcomed being able to leave the office without having to explain >anything. If second season, he *might* have asked her what she thought >re contacting Superman, but she probably would have wanted to go along >and be involved. So, I bet he would have kept the whole phone >conversation quiet. Well, I couldn't not mention Lois at all... could I? :) Good point though. Perhaps, if I definitely settle on second season, I can add a line about Clark reconsidering that and being grateful she's not around to ask awkward questions. >> Clark felt a touch of guilt at that comment as the large man's cheeks >> suddenly matched the color of his boots. >This segment with the sergeant was very good. You put some meat on this >guy's bones. One little thing above, "the large man's cheeks suddenly >matched the color of his boots." Whose boots? I mean, *I know,* but it >could be interpreted as the sergeant's boots. If they're dressing the Metropolitan police in red boots, I'm not sure I want to know about it. ;) But you're right; I'll make it less ambiguous. >> "Superman," Henderson grunted as the Man of Steel appeared in his doorway. >> "C'mon in, take a seat. I want you to listen to a recording." > >semicolon after c'mon in(?) I personally have trouble using semicolons in dialogue unless someone is giving a formal speech. While I dislike too many ellipses in conversation (I've seen many, many people use them instead of breaking dialogue into full sentences or using commas and other punctionation), a semicolon just feels... off. I'm not sure why. Is there something *wrong* with the comma? >> "I think this has little to do with me," Clark said slowly. > >Why did he say this? Maybe Henderson just wanted his help. You might >want to replace "slowly" with "puzzled." He's thinking aloud? Okay, I get your point. I'll think about this one. >> Henderson gave him a level gaze. "You're not as invulnerable as we all like >> to think you are," he said pointedly. "This guy is pointing you to a >> specific place at a specific time. Sounds like a trap to me." > >Since you used the word, "pointedly." I'd use something other than >"pointing" in the next sentence: steering you? Right. >Two words, I think: plainclothes men >nevermind: one word I think I'm going to look these two up. Admittedly, "plainclothesmen" or "plainclothes men" is something not often seen out of detective books; but "nevermind"?! Are you sure about that one, Sandy? Just checked out the dictionaries online... "Plainclothesmen" is correct, but while I could find an entry for "never mind," it didn't recognize "nevermind" at all. Batting .500, Sandy. :) >> He shook the inspector's hand, then turned to go. With a sudden glint in >> his eye, Clark glanced back over his shoulder and added, "By the way, >> Henderson, looks like I'll have to tell Kent that the position of secretary >> has already been taken." > >By whom? Henderson? Cute. > >One thing, as Superman, Clark is *very* polite. He wouldn't just call >the guy "Henderson" or even refer to "Kent." Well ... definitely not >"Henderson." Always Inspector or Inspector Henderson. Good point. I did make sure to have him say "Inspector" or "Inspector Henderson" until then... but is it really considered impolite to refer to a third party by his last name? People do say "Clinton" all the time, frex. (Let's please not get into whether or not people care to be polite to Clinton.) It's not important, though; he can always say "Clark Kent." >> The box was locked. > >Maybe he has a key. Yes, but it'll take that extra second or two to unlock it. It's not like all he has to do is flip open the lid. > > >> Clark made up his mind. Taking a deep breath, bracing himself for the >> possibility of sudden, searing pain, he flashed downwards in an eyeblink, >> snatched the man by the arms, and flew upwards in a heartbeat. Washington >> squeaked in astonishment and almost lost his hold of the box, his legs >> flailing wildly as he tried to find some purchase. > >Very smart move. I think Clark would think of it ... except, during >third season, when he lost his brain. This looks like more and more like it's turning into season two, doesn't it? >> "It's Kryptonite." > >I'm not sure kryptonite is capped. Is it? Are other rocks and >minerals? Good question. How about it, listees? Do you or don't you capitalize Kryptonite? I vote yes, simply to give it more significance, but I'd like to hear other opinions. > >> Clark couldn't help but smile. "I'll do that," he said. He looked at the >> man carefully. "And thank you. Maybe I could help you look for some honest >> employment...?" > >This is so Clark, Hazel. Well, good. ;) Glad to hear I'm doing something right. Regards, Hazel (and congrats on learning to do a sig) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:34:22 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Tara Smith Subject: Re: Just wondering..... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Well, I've decided to post *mine* now, but it's probably (undoubtedly) going to change during the writing of it, and the rewrite will be much more readable. So, it's really up to you--do you want us to see it in its rough stages or later when you've had a chance to polish it up? Tara >From: Alicia Utowski >Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" > >To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU >Subject: Just wondering..... >Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 00:05:13 EDT > >Hi everyone... > >I am currently posting a fic in progress on Zoom's boards, and I was >wondering if anyone wants me to post it here... it is not even close to >being >finished, but with the current topics of conversation on the list, I was >wonedering if I should post it here now, while it is still in progress or >later, when I have finally finished it. > >Alicia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 03:50:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: OUATIM: Lois to Cat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Cat, Your on! I accept the challenge. But why do I think we are both going t= o be disappointed. If we can just pin the bombing on him then I'll be satisfied. There I go again, settling for second best. This hormone thi= ng has a lot to answer for. Forget about the 'brown suits', Cat, it's not your colour, but 'suits' sound nice. Haven't seen you in one of those since you took a facy for 'what's his name'. And about those edges, mine are definitely going to get rounder. Thank goodness I have a partner who doesn't just love me for my 'great' body. Keep digging. Lois ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 03:51:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: John Debbage <106532.433@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: OUATIM: Lois to Ellen Lane MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Mother, Chateau Roberge! Things with Daddy must be going great. Can we expect that Ellen and Sam Lane will be resuming their relationship? I'm happy f= or you, Mother, I know that you never really stopped loving him. I'm thrilled that you are thrilled about our 'news', but Mother there's n= o reason for you to move in full time. Clark and I are doing fine. As I keep telling Clark, I'm pregnant not disabled and women have been working= and having babies from the beginning of time. That doesn't mean that I won't call on you to help from time to time and I'll certainly be asking Grandma to babysit after the baby is born. Got to rush, Mother, leads to chase down, stories to write. Clark and I will have you and Daddy round to dinner sometime soon. Your daughter, Lois = ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 05:54:48 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/99 2:23:03 AM Central Daylight Time, zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL writes: : : : : : : : >>>I made his voice gravelly because of his personality. What kind of accent does he have? Is he Southern, a New Yorker, a Mid-Westener? Help me out, FoLCs!<<< He deadpanned his lines most of the time. Kept a straight face, rarely raised his voice and was a great foil for Lois. He's a fun character to write with Lois because they had a nice antagonism going that tended towards sarcasm. As for an accent, he sounded like a New Yorker, not the "gumba" (Yo, Adrienne!) type, but upstate New York maybe. His voice was fairly even since he didn't get emotional. << Well, I couldn't not mention Lois at all... could I? :) Good point though. Perhaps, if I definitely settle on second season, I can add a line about Clark reconsidering that and being grateful she's not around to ask awkward questions. >> Though I haven't read the draft, I would disagree on the take that Clark somehow didn't ask for Lois' input second season. Even in Top Copy where Lois presented her logical suspicion that Diana Stride could be the assassin, Clark not only dismissed her logic, he made a joke of it by pantomiming the word "reaching" It's why I get a giggle fit when it's suggested that Clark wasn't as bright third season compared to the previous two. I love Clark, but let's face it, he wasn't a genius in *any* season >>>>I'm not sure kryptonite is capped. Is it? Are other rocks and >minerals? Good question. How about it, listees? Do you or don't you capitalize Kryptonite? I vote yes, simply to give it more significance, but I'd like to hear other opinions.<<<< Well, californium and einsteinium, even though coined from proper nouns, are not capitalized. However, Kryptonite (kryptonite) was coined by Lois (really Clark but he didn't want any credit on that story) in the Daily Planet. Maybe she capitalized it ;) It seems to be capitalized in the scripts, if that helps. Oddly enough, though my spell checker breezed passed the "californium" and "einsteinium" as correct spellings, when it got to "Kryptonite" spelled with a lower case "k" it suggested capitalizing it Zoom ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:04:05 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19991007092154.009076c0@actcom.co.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi Hazel, > >> Should Clark phone home to Mom and Dad for advice? > > > >About what? > > Well, about this. He seems to do that a lot in the transcripts and fanfic > that I've read. "Mom, what do you think I should do?" [snip] Yes, he did that a lot in Season 1, less so in Season 2, and from then on only when he was in a real mess. Certainly not with minor problems... or he'd spend an awful lot of time on the phone or tearing up the sky between Metropolis and Smallville! Henderson: > What kind of accent does he have? Is > he Southern, a New Yorker, a Mid-Westener? Help me out, FoLCs! Sorry, no idea! I can just about tell a New Yorker from a Texan, but that's about it! > >nevermind: one word No way!! It's two separate words, as Hazel wrote it. > > >> He shook the inspector's hand, then turned to go. With a sudden glint in > >> his eye, Clark glanced back over his shoulder and added, "By the way, > >> Henderson, looks like I'll have to tell Kent that the position of secretary > >> has already been taken." > >One thing, as Superman, Clark is *very* polite. He wouldn't just call > >the guy "Henderson" or even refer to "Kent." Well ... definitely not > >"Henderson." Always Inspector or Inspector Henderson. I think in that particular line (Superman was enjoying having a joke with Henderson, and it wasn't in public) referring to himself as 'Kent' works well and wouldn't look odd. > >> "It's Kryptonite." > > > >I'm not sure kryptonite is capped. Is it? Are other rocks and > >minerals? I always capitalise 'Kryptonite' - partly because it's named after Krypton, a proper noun, and also partly because I think it looks better. However, it's certainly not something I, as a general editor, would quibble about. Trivial, Sandy, trivial . When's the next story coming, Hazel? Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:39:34 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Lois, Jimmy, Cat and Daily Planet staff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII You all know that Perry White has decided to take a vacation. He's asked me to take over as temporary editor while he's gone. I just want to let you all know that while I may have a reputation as a mild-mannered reporter, I have no intention of allowing standards to slip in Perry's absence. I expect the same level of commitment from all of you as he does. Now, particular assignments: Cat, I need you to find MacDonald and stick to him. Like glue. Only... please don't do anything that would bring the Planet into disrepute. Jimmy, hiding out or not, I want some answers on the Meridian payments and MacDonald's business interests. You're not hurt, are you? Lois, keep working on tying everything together. And I want at least two front-page-quality stories on my desk from you by five o'clock this evening, or I'll team you up with Ralph. Superman, see if you can find out who beat up Jimmy, and where Underhill's.... Oh. I forgot. Superman doesn't work for... um.... Okay everyone, back to work! Clark Kent Editor (Temporary) ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:41:19 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Lois to CLark MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Posting this for Jenni... -------------------------------------------------------------------- To the 'acting editor'. Honey, I'm beginning to lose track of your roles. Below is what we got from Harry Pollack. You'll notice that it's very short but then most of what he said is unsubstantiated and I got the feeling that he wouldn't appreciated being quoted. And Perry would have our hides if we brought a lawsuit down on his head the moment his back was turned. I'll try to track down Courtney Hart today. Let's hope I have more success with reaching her than I've had with MacDonald. 'DIRTY DEEDS AT THE PRINTERS' >>>It has come to the notice of this reporter that certain underhand deeds have occurred at AP Printing. After the tragic bombing of the Daily Planet building AP kindly offered to produce the Planet newspaper while the paper's own facility was in reconstruction. A source has since revealed that certain newly-hired employees committed acts which disrupted or stopped the production of the 'Planet'. As said workers have now left their employment and are unavailable for comment it is difficult to determine the motive behind their nefarious actions. The matter is under investigation.<<< Not a lot, honey, but let's hope I can flesh this out once I talk to Courtney. You my have noticed that I don't actually get along with her but I do hope that she is safe and is just lying low. I can't imagine she would have willingly been involved in murder. Hey, did you notice that I wasn't actually sick this morning....... well not much anyway. Bye, Daddy, Don't go tiring yourself out with all of your jobs. You have a house to super clean when you get home. I have a feeling that my mother is about to descend on us and I don't want to give her an excuse for taking over as a live-in domestic. I just hope that she and Daddy can make a fresh start. She deserves some happiness in her life and if she's busy rekindling her romance she won't have time to bother us. We Love ya, Lois and Baby Kent ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:47:42 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: OUATIM: Clark to Lois MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Hi honey, Are you still feeling okay? You know, I can always go out and get you some more of that jasmine tea... or evening primrose, right from the source. Anything you need! Thanks for doing that interview with Pollack. I was a bit worried that he might recognise me - he's been doing the Superman Foundation a few favours and I've met him a couple of times when in the Suit. So Courtney's missing? Superman just went out to take a look - no sign in her apartment, but nor is there any sign that she actually went away. I'm not familiar with her place, but it doesn't looks like anything's missing. Did you know Jimmy got beat up? Superman got a description of who did it, and Jimmy's going to report it properly to Henderson as well. Superman will make sure he gets there and back safely. And since Superman's also trying to find Ron Underhill, I have no idea when Clark's going to find time to edit the Planet!! By the way, honey, don't mind that email I sent out to everyone - I was just kidding about Ralph. Have to let everyone know that you don't get favours because you're my wife... well, not at work anyway. Don't forget we're seeing Bernie Klein this evening. Late. Love you. *Be careful.* Clark. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:47:07 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: OUATIM: Clark to Lois, Jimmy, Cat and Daily Planet staff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy wrote: >You all know that Perry White has decided to take a vacation. He's >asked me to take over as temporary editor while he's gone. > >I just want to let you all know that while I may have a reputation as >a mild-mannered reporter, I have no intention of allowing standards >to slip in Perry's absence. I expect the same level of commitment >from all of you as he does. > >Now, particular assignments: > >Cat, I need you to find MacDonald and stick to him. Like glue. >Only... please don't do anything that would bring the Planet into >disrepute. > >Jimmy, hiding out or not, I want some answers on the Meridian >payments and MacDonald's business interests. You're not hurt, are you? > >Lois, keep working on tying everything together. And I want at least >two front-page-quality stories on my desk from you by five o'clock >this evening, or I'll team you up with Ralph. > >Superman, see if you can find out who beat up Jimmy, and where >Underhill's.... Oh. I forgot. Superman doesn't work for... um.... > >Okay everyone, back to work! > > >Clark Kent >Editor (Temporary) > Oooooooh. Clark gets *tough*. I *love* it! Can you make him growly too? You know how I like him growly. ;) LabRat :) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS! "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H. L. Mencken ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:04:51 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: OUATIM: Clark to Lois, Jimmy, Cat and Daily Planet staff In-Reply-To: <006701bf10b1$6cd334e0$883a883e@d9t5t7> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:47:07 +0100 LabRat wrote: > > Oooooooh. Clark gets *tough*. I *love* it! Can you make him growly too? You > know how I like him growly. ;) LOL! Clark gets tough, but the soft centre sneaks through too - 'Jimmy, you okay?' I can make him growl... but it may be when he's with Lois and not at the Planet.... ("Come here, Lois... I said, come here....") Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:25:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Terry S. Horowit" Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Kathy Brown said: >For example, I think we've discussed before Clark's way of speaking ... he >uses "gonna" regularly. If someone were editing my story and insisted that >I need to change my sentence because "going to" is the grammatically >correct way to spell it, I'd get myself another editor. > >To give a recent example from my own writing, I am not very consistent at >using "lay" and "lie" correctly, as Wendy can attest. She's been keeping >me honest on this ... "Clark laid on the bed" is wrong; "Clark lay on the >bed" is right. However, when usage is incorrect in dialogue, the way she >points it out is different: "correct would be 'laid' there, unless you >think Lois would get it wrong." At that point, it's up to me as the author >to say whether that was an intentional error or not. Someone should write a Revelation story in which Lois notices that Superman and Clark have the exact same grammatical patterns of speech and make the same grammatical errors... BTW, I hesitate to mention this as a generally lurking non-writer, but my own pet peeve is in the misuse of 'I/me'. These are always getting switched in stories and I think Lois and Clark, as writers, should be aware of this one. The rule is SO easy... When using a sentence referring to oneself and another person, just use the same word you would use if referring to yourself alone: "Lois and I are going to meet a source today" = "I am going to meet a source today". But "Give me the papers" would be "Give Lois and me the papers." Terry Horowit ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:24:41 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: OUATIM: Clark to Lois, Jimmy, Cat and Daily Planet staff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy wrote: >LOL! Clark gets tough, but the soft centre sneaks through too - >'Jimmy, you okay?' > That's our Clark. > >I can make him growl... but it may be when he's with Lois and not at >the Planet.... > >("Come here, Lois... I said, come here....") > Double Ooooooh. Yes, please! I want to see this scene at some point in one of your nfic, girl. ;) LabRat :) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS! "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H. L. Mencken ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:29:29 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 07:25:44 -0500 "Terry S. Horowit" wrote: > Someone should write a Revelation story in which Lois notices that Superman > and Clark have the exact same grammatical patterns of speech and make the > same grammatical errors... Ah, well, part of the point is that Clark and Superman do not speak in the same way. Superman's speech patterns tend to be more stilted, he uses less contractions and less informal constructions and so on. Anyone who wants to know what I mean could take a look at my story 'Dear Lois... love Superman,' for an example of a clear difference between Clark and Superman, although here it's in writing and not dialogue. Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:34:29 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:29:29 +0100 Wendy Richards wrote: > Ah, well, part of the point is that Clark and Superman do not speak > in the same way. Superman's speech patterns tend to be more stilted, > he uses less contractions and less informal constructions and so on. Grrrr... before anyone points it out, I *know* I should have said 'fewer' not 'less'! Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:41:04 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry wrote: >BTW, I hesitate to mention this as a generally lurking non-writer, but my >own pet peeve is in the misuse of 'I/me'. These are always getting >switched in stories and I think Lois and Clark, as writers, should be aware >of this one. The rule is SO easy... When using a sentence referring to >oneself and another person, just use the same word you would use if >referring to yourself alone: "Lois and I are going to meet a source today" >= "I am going to meet a source today". But "Give me the papers" would be >"Give Lois and me the papers." >Terry Horowit Ah, yes - on the face of it. But this is another one I dig my heels in mulishly on. Not 'I/me' in particular, but on the more general point of whether someone would use grammatically incorrect idiom - even though they are intelligent people who are writers for a living. I don't always agree that knowing and using are the same thing. Let's go back to nauseous/nauseated. This is a big personal bugbear with one of my proofers, who maintains that Lois and Clark would know the difference for precisely the reasons cited above. I agree that they would know the difference - but I still insist on having them incorrectly say "I feel nauseous." IMO, nauseous has become the 'correct' instance simply through erosion, the norm by default and useage. The vast majority of Americans say nauseous when they mean nauseated. (And, just to complicate matters, over here in the UK, we'd just say "I feel sick". ) Not all of them know that it is incorrect when they do, but I maintain that even most of those who do....well, do. Therefore, so do Lois and Clark. So, every time I use nauseous, my proofer chides me severely. And every time she chides me severely, I dig in my heels and ignore her. Ask her, she'll tell you - plain doghound stubborn on it I am. I drive her nuts. In short, Lois and Clark are undoubtedly intelligent people who have an excellent grasp of the English language and grammar as part of their writing skills. But I maintain that that doesn't necessarily mean that they won't use common slang or corruptions in their speech, simply because we all do where the slang has become predominent by default over time and by common useage. LabRat :) Doc. Klein's LabRat labrat@starlabs.fsnet.co.uk PLEASE NOTE MY NEW EDDRESS! "Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative" - Oscar Wilde "Conscience is the inner voice that warns us someone may be looking." -- H. L. Mencken > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:15:45 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alicia Utowski Subject: Re: OUATIM: Lois to Lucy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW!!!! Auntie Lucy! I think i can get used to that! About Mother, you know she's going to go crazy, but why don't you let her? It's her first grandchild after all. If she gets too annoying you can always move and not tell her your new address. :-) I'll come and visit you soon! Love, Lucy ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:16:42 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > How about it, listees? Do you or don't you capitalize > Kryptonite? I vote yes, simply to give it more significance, but I'd like > to hear other opinions. I usually do cap it, but upon reflection, I've no idea why... -- ------------------------------------------------------- Pam Jernigan | jernigan@bellsouth.net ChiefPam on IRC | ------------------------------------------------------- "Well, it just so happens that I am a former girlscout." "Good. Because I am a strange visitor from another planet." --Lois & Clark, "Ordinary People" ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam ------------------------------------------------------- Point to ponder: In the US in 1994, there were 32 auto deaths for every 100,000 autos, but only 16 firearm deaths for every 100,000 firearms. --Reason Magazine, Nov 99, pp46-47. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:59:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: To cap or not to cap (was Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1)) Comments: To: Pam Jernigan Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > How about it, listees? Do you or don't you capitalize > Kryptonite? I vote yes, simply to give it more significance, but I'd like > to hear other opinions. <> I say cap it. It is correct to capitalize prpoer names of people, places, elements, etc. Since Kryptonite is an element in the L&C universes, like our Kryptonium???? __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:13:19 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: Reading Room Stories In-Reply-To: <0.9bb4e68c.252d1d13@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Carolyn > >This list is from a bulletin board area on AOL. It is no longer accessible. I >posted the list hoping to get some of the authors to send them to the >archive. Some authors have done so, some are no longer around. > >Bud Mayes Thanks Bud, I think I understand this better now:) Does anyone actually have the stories then? If so, could they be sent to me? Thanks, Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:05:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Re: To cap or not to cap (was Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1)) In-Reply-To: <388728666.939304774373.JavaMail.root@web01.pub01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:59 AM 07/10/99 -0400, you wrote: >> How about it, listees? Do you or don't you capitalize >> Kryptonite? I vote yes, simply to give it more significance, but I'd like >> to hear other opinions. > ><> > >I say cap it. It is correct to capitalize prpoer names of people, places, >elements, etc. Since Kryptonite is an element in the L&C universes, like our >Kryptonium???? I also capitalize it. It feels right. But Joy, we don't cap oxygen, hydrogen, neon, potassium... I don't spose fanfic has to be *entirely* logical. :) Hazel (who appreciates all the feedback!) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:11:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Phillip Atcliffe Subject: Re: Kryptonite (was: Honor Among Thieves (1/1)) In-Reply-To: <37FC9D3A.FBEDC128@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:16:42 -0400 Pam Jernigan wrote: >> How about it, listees? Do you or don't you capitalize Kryptonite? I vote yes, simply to give it more significance, but I'd like to hear other opinions. << > I usually do cap it, but upon reflection, I've no idea why... Me, too -- both capitalising and lack of a precise reason that I can articulate. It may be traditional to capitalise Kryptonite (and the _kind_, as in Green, Red, Gold, Blue, White, Jewel, Anti-, -X, etc. [oh, look, PtMP's showing how long he's been reading comics ]) partly because it makes the stuff more important, and partly because we're used to seeing the word(s) written in capitals (and, in the early days, frequently written in bold) in the comics. Certainly, all the text references to the stuff that I've ever seen -- in articles, novels, RPGs and the like -- use caps, so I do, too. Phil ------------------------------------------------------------ "I think... I think I am! | I think _I_ am: Therefore I am... I think?" | Phil Atcliffe -- The Moody Blues | (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 10:17:26 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:25 AM -0500 10/7/99, Terry S. Horowit wrote: >Someone should write a Revelation story in which Lois notices that Superman >and Clark have the exact same grammatical patterns of speech and make the >same grammatical errors... I was watching some clips of "Lethal Weapon" last night, and one thing I noticed was how Clark tends to chew on the side of his bottom lip when he's thinking ... I haven't watched for this specifically in any episodes to know if he does it in public as Superman or just when with Lois, but the idea did pop into my head that if he *did* do something like this, it would make a neat premise for a revelation story. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 11:38:55 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: To cap or not to cap (was Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves Comments: To: Hazel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <> You have a point. I don't exactly use the elements in everyday conversation, but I guess I would capitalize them if I had to write them out, just because I did not know any better. Or more than likely, I would use their symols, i.e. O, H, Ne, and K. Joy:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:46:21 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Bain Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site In-Reply-To: <009101bf10b8$fcbaf140$883a883e@d9t5t7> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" LabRat said: >Let's go back to nauseous/nauseated. This is a big personal bugbear with one >of my proofers, who maintains that Lois and Clark would know the difference >for precisely the reasons cited above. I agree that they would know the >difference - but I still insist on having them incorrectly say "I feel >nauseous." IMO, nauseous has become the 'correct' instance simply through >erosion, the norm by default and useage. The vast majority of Americans say >nauseous when they mean nauseated. (And, just to complicate matters, over >here in the UK, we'd just say "I feel sick". ) Not all of them know that >it is incorrect when they do, but I maintain that even most of those who >do....well, do. Therefore, so do Lois and Clark. So, every time I use >nauseous, my proofer chides me severely. And every time she chides me >severely, I dig in my heels and ignore her. Ask her, she'll tell you - plain >doghound stubborn on it I am. I drive her nuts. Yes, you do, but I love you for it. And hey, I'd totally buy either of them saying, "I feel sick." My daughter - who probably has appedicitis (we're on our way to the doctor as soon as she gets her shoes on!) - is saying that now. Becky rbain@uswest.net "The difference between the right word and the nearly right word is the same as that between lightning and the lightning bug." - Mark Twain ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:07:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: More rules for grammar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, everyone. I must say that I have really liked this thread. I have another link that some of you may want to try. I found it at "The Economist"'s website. Enjoy. www.economist.com/editorial/freeforall/library/index_styleguide.html JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:48:36 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: OUATIM: Dr. Klein to Lara (copy to Lois and Clark) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Lara; It comes to my attention that I have a lab project that affect you personally. I would really like to talk to you about it. Would you please come by Star Labs tonight around 7:00? I am in the East Wing, 3rd floor. Ask anyone directions to Bernard Klein. I'm practically an institution here. I am anxious to meet you. Sincerely, Bernard S. Klein, PhD ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:29:30 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Not OUATIM: Carolyn to Bernie Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Bernie (you brain hunk, you:) It was so sweet of you to pass along regards from Phil Atcliffe and is was really nice of him to inquire after me:) My research is going well but I can't seem to get the funding or support here that I think I need. TPTB seem unconvinced so far. It certainly is prestigious but the money is always short. Furthermore, the leadership keeps changing around here. Can't do experiments and keep up too, if you know what I mean:( Is Phil still into Archy&Mehitabel? Could you let him know I'd be happy to play Mehitabel if he should ever get that amatuer revival production off the ground. I know he is really wrapped up in that TARDIS-like apparatus he's been working on but he, like you, works too hard, and needs a break. OTOH, I'm curious to see his notes on the "transporter"! Perhaps he could convince our mutual friend Colin to produce the A&M revival for us. Of course, it might be hard to get a really good Archy....unless you want to play him? He said what about the Rat? The Rat is cute?!? Well, I know the Rat is very smart, and I really like the Rat tremendously but should I be getting jealous or something? You know I think you are a god:) Lastly, I'm worried about you, darling. Could you be involved with clones again? I ask because that always depresses you. Can I help? Gotta go to a staff meeting now. Wish I could work more closely with you:( New York seems so far from Metropolis. Say hi to Lois and Clark, and Superman, for me (and the Rat, and Phil...:)) Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu P.S. When can we get away together again? The last time we never made it out of the lab, even though we both love it there:) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:42:12 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Yael Kfir Subject: OUATIM: Dan to Lois Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lois, I just got the weirdest e-mail today from someone who names himself Mr Myzlipstick or something, and I'm freaking out here trying to understand what this whole thing means: <<< Greetings, minions! Mxyzpltlk here - MISTER Mxyzpltlk, if you please! [snip] Well, now I'm back again. What do you think of my surprise present? Little Ms Lara Wells? The girl who thinks she was found in the Congo with memory loss? Unfortunately, she's a clone. >>> !!! <<< A nearly dead one, too. >>> ???!!! Lois, I haven't told Lara about it yet. She seems a bit upset right now, and I don't want to bother her with nonsense. What is this - a sick joke? First, cloning human beings isn't possible... yet... not to this level, is it? Second, why would anyone want just to duplicate Lara and then kill her? Third, if she is a clone and she is dying - why would this Xymplick tell me about it? What is this - some kind of new evilness? Lois, I'm sorry to bother you with this. I keep telling my self that I'm being fooled here. Tell me this is just some lunatic who found the idiot that would listen to him. Lara can't be a clone. She's real; I touched her, I heard her. She thinks, she talks, she laughs... clones can't do that, can they? Dan. ------------------ Yael Kfir, Zaglembia@mail.com ----------------------- - Oh, god... - Zod. (Superman II) ----------------------- __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:50:13 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: OUATIM: Henderson to the Daily Planet Staff MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am increasingly concered about the safety of DP personnel involved in the story behind the bombing. I believe we are slowly closing in on the prime suspects in this case. I want all of you to be heads up about your personal safety. As most of you know, Jimmy Olson was illegally detained at McDonald's office yesterday. This concerns the police department greatly, so we are setting up a "code 75" for any emergency relating to this case. Anyone wishing police assistance should call 911, say "code 75", give us your location, and we will respond with as much speed that safety allows. Inspector Henderson, Metropolis PD ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:48:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Becky wrote: >Christy said: >>we all learned that real conversation is filled with nonsense words (uh, like, >>um), repeated words, coughs, pauses, etc. It we all wrote exactly like we >>spoke, no one would ever want to read it. > >Ha! I seem to recall making this exact point during the long and sometimes >contentious editing of CF. > >Christy, they can be anarchists if they want to, let's start a Save Our >Language movement. I think I may not have made myself clear in my earlier post... What I meant was that while we shouldn't make conversations so realistic that we bore our readers, we should be true to our characters. If it is important for a character to say "like" after every other word, well, then go ahead. Likewise, if it's in character for someone to speak in perfectly correct English, then write it that way. But for the majority of the characters, this isn't the case. People speak in contractions, incorrect words, slur their speech, etc. Writers should stay true to their characters and make their stories enjoyable to their readers (if they want readers, that is ;) No one really wants to read scenes that are unimportant to the story, for example. We don't care to read about the villain brushing his/her teeth before going to bed unless he's about to be murdered, or he just invented some special new toothpaste, or something Real life would make a long, often-boring story, but that doesn't mean stories should be unrealistic. -Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu * * * * * * * * * * "Life is like an onion; you peel off one layer at a time and sometimes you weep." -Carl Sandburg ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 12:59:26 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Information for a fanfic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm still in the early stages of plotting a new story, and I need some background information. Can anyone give me the general time frame of Lex Luthor's date of death--about what month did the roof fall in on him there in his underground hideaway. I also need to know generally in what month The Family Hour was supposed to take place. Sorry about all the questions, but I need to have these for the fic's foundation, to keep everything consistent, timewise. Nan ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 15:03:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: OUATIM: Dr. Klein to Lara (copy to Lois and Clark) In-Reply-To: <0.d4b723d4.252e36f4@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 1:48 PM -0400 10/7/99, Laurie Dunn wrote: >Ask anyone directions to Bernard Klein. I'm practically an institution here. There's the old Bernie charm. LOL Laurie!! Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:28:23 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Jude's techno-stupido glitch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about sending the previous harangue before I finished proofing it. My rudimentary computer skills drive me nuts sometimes. There are a lot of errors, but I hope you can interpret anyway. I obsess so much about "getting it right" that it's a miracle I ever send anything anyway. Jude ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:04:25 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: StarKitty Subject: Info for story MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DE_01BF10C4.7B1E9720" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01BF10C4.7B1E9720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Who would be in charge of investigating serial murders/human sacrifices? = I need a rank and division. I was thinking it might be homicide, but = they might put together some kind of special unit, right? Would the NIA = stick their noses? (No, I'm not planning on having Scardino show up--or = maybe I will. We'll see. :-) I also need to know if they ever mentioned in the show if Henderson was = married. This is a very minor point, though. Tara ----------------------- "Whoever said the human race was logical?" Gillian Taylor, Star Trek = IV: The Voyage Home "Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" "Is it a plane?" "Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a cape" --crowd scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark" ------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01BF10C4.7B1E9720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Who would be in charge of investigating = serial=20 murders/human sacrifices?  I need a rank and division.  I was = thinking=20 it might be homicide, but they might put together some kind of special = unit,=20 right?  Would the NIA stick their noses?  (No, I'm not = planning on=20 having Scardino show up--or maybe I will.  We'll see. = :-)
I also need to know if they ever = mentioned in the=20 show if Henderson was married.  This is a very minor point,=20 though.
 
Tara
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"Whoever = said the human=20 race was logical?"  Gillian Taylor, Star Trek IV: The Voyage=20 Home
 
"Look, up in the sky!" "Is it a bird?" = "Is it a=20 plane?"
"Nah, it's just some guy in a pair of tights and a = cape"
--crowd=20 scene from the pilot of "Lois & Clark"
 

 
------=_NextPart_000_00DE_01BF10C4.7B1E9720-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:37:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Fw: writing grammatical dialogue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Williams To: Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 12:35 PM Subject: writing grammatical dialogue > Many realistic and fascinating responses to my bleating about grammar. > (See, I can write an incomplete sentence) I agree with Sheila, Nan Kathy > and LabRat about the necessity for dialogue to be real and readable, but I > face a dilemma with this (pronoun with reference). We speak and write as we > hear(conjunction as not preposition like). Young people in school are > bombarded with bad grammar on the radio, on television, in everything they > read. It is certainly true that one must know the rules in order to break > them ( I even use "ain't " sometimes to make a point). How do we teach our > youth to write correctly when everything they see and hear is incorrect? In > our state, high school students must meet a certain writing proficiency > standard in order to graduate. Most recent test results show that too may > are drifting in the abyss of awful. > Back to realistic dialogue. Creative writing is, of course, different . > Slang such as "gonna" is the realistic way to deal with formal versus > everyday. I have to disagree that misusing lie/lay etc.. is a way to show > that Clark speaks like his peers to show he's just like everyone else. I > have many friends (not English teachers) who know the correct usage and use > it. Those who don't know the difference, don't seem to get it, anyway. > Back to my original premise: Lois and Clark are writers. If they won;t > speak and write correctly, who will? I'll never forget the shock I went > into when I heard Jimmy say on one ep, "Her and Clark are out covering a > story. But then I remembered, It's Jimmy. There ain't no easy answers. > I'm ducking. Jude > > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 13:53:30 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Judith Williams Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I vote YES. I's certainly not a "common" noun. ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam Jernigan To: Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 6:16 AM Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) > > How about it, listees? Do you or don't you capitalize > > Kryptonite? I vote yes, simply to give it more significance, but I'd like > > to hear other opinions. > > I usually do cap it, but upon reflection, I've no idea why... > -- > ------------------------------------------------------- > Pam Jernigan | jernigan@bellsouth.net > ChiefPam on IRC | > ------------------------------------------------------- > "Well, it just so happens that I am a former girlscout." > "Good. Because I am a strange visitor from another planet." > --Lois & Clark, "Ordinary People" > ------------------------------------------------------- > http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam > ------------------------------------------------------- > Point to ponder: In the US in 1994, > there were 32 auto deaths for every 100,000 autos, > but only 16 firearm deaths for every 100,000 firearms. > --Reason Magazine, Nov 99, pp46-47. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 16:55:33 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joy Sowell Subject: Re: Info for story Comments: To: StarKitty Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tara, the FBI gets involved in serial murders sometimes. Ican't see the DEA (Scardino) getting involved unless the murderer used a drug of some sort. Speaking of your story, when are we going to get part 2? Ralphy says he misses StarKitty. Just kidding. Or am I ? He he he. JOY:) __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:29:24 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Genine Murray Subject: Re: Just wondering..... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/99 12:08:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Alicia3456@AOL.COM writes: << Hi everyone... I am currently posting a fic in progress on Zoom's boards, and I was wondering if anyone wants me to post it here... it is not even close to being finished, but with the current topics of conversation on the list, I was wonedering if I should post it here now, while it is still in progress or later, when I have finally finished it. Alicia >> Sure!! I say bring it on!! After all fanfic is what this list is all about, right?!? :-) Genine ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:42:28 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Laurie Dunn Subject: OUATIM: Klein to Lois and Clark (encrypted) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Late PM Dear Lois and Clark; I want to thank you for being here for the talk with Lara. Scientists are not coached on bedside manner, and telling Lara she was dying was very hard. I understood why she was so angry with me, although I was only the person that discovered her cellular disintegration. I didn't clone her in the first place! Without you there to calm her down, well, I just don't know how I could have done it. I was never very good with those touchy-feely sciences. In regards to Clark/Superman, I assure you your secret is safe with me. I am honored to watch over your pregnancy, Lois. Imagine the first Krypto-Earth child ever! The cutting edge of science! but confidential, of course. Well, it's been a stressful night. I'm off to my Harley for a ride home in the cold night air. I wish my Carolyn were here. You are lucky to have each other. Thanks again. All my best, Bernie ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:57:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Hazel Subject: Thanks! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks to all those who responded to my plea for feedback! Phil, hope you're working on that cookie recipe. :) "Honor Among Thieves" has now been finalized and readied for the archive. "Kryptonite" still has a capital K, and Henderson now has a "flat" baritone instead of a "gravelly" one. Hope that fits the character. I wish we would all do this more often: offer our babies, before they're ready to be delivered, for inspection. :) I know some people feel awkward, but I think a lot of people will benefit this way. Hazel ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:55:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Organization: http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam/ Subject: Posting drafts/segments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On the issue of whether to post first drafts or not, Tara wrote: > Well, I've decided to post *mine* now, but it's probably (undoubtedly) going > to change during the writing of it, and the rewrite will be much more > readable. So, it's really up to you--do you want us to see it in its rough > stages or later when you've had a chance to polish it up? and I think that's a good question. I'd also point out that some people, with limited time, may only read the story the first time they see it ... even if it's vastly improved, later, they'll figure they've already been there, done that, and won't give it a second look. I nearly skipped reading Hazel's re-edit of "Honor Among Thieves" because I'd read it the first time, on the boards. (I'm glad I changed my mind btw). So you risk having people read your rough draft but not your polished version. OTOH, I've found a big advantage to posting in segments, as I write -- it gives me splendid motivation to finish :) I wrote "Fate Worse Than Death" in just over a week, which is astonishing to me, but since I knew people were waiting for it, I *made* the time to write, whereas normally I'd be more inclined to procrastinate and goof off. I'm not doing so well with "Just Like That," (my kids have stopped napping together) but I am making much more progress now than before I started posting it. Btw, does anyone want me to post Just Like That, here? It's still not finished, but I have a big chunk done, so I could catch the list up to where I am on the boards, and post future segments both places ... (I didn't used to be comfortable with that, but what the heck) You guys know what a lousy writer I am anyway so a first draft or so shouldn't shock anyone... -- ------------------------------------------------------- Pam Jernigan | jernigan@bellsouth.net ChiefPam on IRC | ------------------------------------------------------- "Well, it just so happens that I am a former girlscout." "Good. Because I am a strange visitor from another planet." --Lois & Clark, "Ordinary People" ------------------------------------------------------- http://www.geocities.com/~chiefpam ------------------------------------------------------- Point to ponder: In the US in 1994, there were 32 auto deaths for every 100,000 autos, but only 16 firearm deaths for every 100,000 firearms. --Reason Magazine, Nov 99, pp46-47. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:09:55 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/99 6:23:48 AM EST, horowit@UMIACS.UMD.EDU writes: << BTW, I hesitate to mention this as a generally lurking non-writer, but my own pet peeve is in the misuse of 'I/me'. These are always getting switched in stories and I think Lois and Clark, as writers, should be aware of this one. The rule is SO easy... When using a sentence referring to oneself and another person, just use the same word you would use if referring to yourself alone: "Lois and I are going to meet a source today" = "I am going to meet a source today". But "Give me the papers" would be "Give Lois and me the papers." Terry Horowit >> Speaking of I/me i was watching STGTTWNK, and Lois was talking to Emily. She told Emily that the Wedding Destroyer was after Clark and her, but the way she worded it was "Clark and me." I yelled it's "Clark and I," and then I went Arrgh!! That is a pet peeve of mine also. Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:42:39 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: OUATIM:Lara to Dan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dan... I am sorry but i am going to have to cancel our date tonight. I know how much you wanted to have a repeat performance of last Thursdays date, but.. well um.. something really important came up. I will definately miss looking at those stars with you and I will be thinking of you tonight. I'll call you when i get home. Love, Lari ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:42:38 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/99 10:17:45 AM EST, kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM writes: << I was watching some clips of "Lethal Weapon" last night, and one thing I noticed was how Clark tends to chew on the side of his bottom lip when he's thinking ... I haven't watched for this specifically in any episodes to know if he does it in public as Superman or just when with Lois, but the idea did pop into my head that if he *did* do something like this, it would make a neat premise for a revelation story. Kathy >> I notices that he also pushes his glasses back up on his nose constantly when he is nervous about something or uncomfortable. I noticed the lip thing ever since I watched LnC back in 1993. It's probably because i have a thing for staring at those nice, soft lips. ::sigh::: ;) I am wondering if the glasses thing and especially the lip thing was something Dean added to the character. Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:55:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wendy Richards wrote: > Trivial, Sandy, trivial . Boy, are you lucky I'm all doped up. -- Sandy smcdermin@erols.com http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:11:59 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nancy Smith Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think that it should be "The Wedding Destroyer is after Clark and me," not "Clark and I". If you rephrase it to "The Wedding Destroyer is after me" it's grammatical, "The Wedding Destroyer is after I" isn't. That's how you tell. Nan No Name Available wrote: > In a message dated 10/7/99 6:23:48 AM EST, horowit@UMIACS.UMD.EDU writes: > > << BTW, I hesitate to mention this as a generally lurking non-writer, but my > own pet peeve is in the misuse of 'I/me'. These are always getting > switched in stories and I think Lois and Clark, as writers, should be aware > of this one. The rule is SO easy... When using a sentence referring to > oneself and another person, just use the same word you would use if > referring to yourself alone: "Lois and I are going to meet a source today" > = "I am going to meet a source today". But "Give me the papers" would be > "Give Lois and me the papers." > Terry Horowit >> > > Speaking of I/me i was watching STGTTWNK, and Lois was talking to Emily. She > told Emily that the Wedding Destroyer was after Clark and her, but the way > she worded it was "Clark and me." I yelled it's "Clark and I," and then I > went Arrgh!! That is a pet peeve of mine also. > > Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:26:48 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: OUATIM: Lois to Ellen Lane In-Reply-To: <199910070351_MC2-8801-3C52@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Sweetheart, >Chateau Roberge! Things with Daddy must be going great. Can we expect >that Ellen and Sam Lane will be resuming their relationship? Let's just say that we had a *really* terrific weekend... >I'm thrilled that you are thrilled about our 'news', but Mother there's no >reason for you to move in full time. Clark and I are doing fine. As I >keep telling Clark, I'm pregnant not disabled and women have been working >and having babies from the beginning of time. > >That doesn't mean that I won't call on you to help from time to time and >I'll certainly be asking Grandma to babysit after the baby is born. Well, of course you know what you can handle and what you can't, honey. I never meant to imply that you are incapable of holding down a full-time job, caring for your house and your husband, and still have time to rest and take care of yourself and your baby. But you know that you can count on me if, for example, you need the time to rest and you can't do your household chores - and Clark is off doing whatever it is when he disappears from time to time. (I used to worry that he was cheating on you, but, well, it appears that I was mistaken, thank God!) And of course I wouldn't dream of barging in on you two! I can just make sure I'm more available than I have been, in case you need to call on me. I love you, honey, and I want to help make your life easier if I can. Just let me know what I can do... >Got to rush, Mother, leads to chase down, stories to write. Clark and I >will have you and Daddy round to dinner sometime soon. I look forward to it! Much love, Your mother PS - Have you told your father about the baby yet? Or may I do it? He is going to be *so* excited about becoming a grandfather - I know *I* am... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 20:37:17 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I am wondering if the glasses > thing and especially the lip thing was something Dean added to the character. I don't know if you've seen any scripts, but the writers rarely indicate specific actions for the actors to use to demonstrate a particular emotion. It is, in fact, the thing I found hardest about writing a screenplay. Although I'm used to conveying my story primarily through dialog and action, I write what the specific action is so the readers can see Clark (or Lois or Jimmy, etc.) in their minds. In a script, the writer is expected to indicate the emotion that's driving the character and let the actor decide how to portray it. It's that collaborative-medium thing again. So, in response to your original statement, yes, biting his lip and fiddling with his glasses is part of Dean's contribution to Clark. Sheila ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:42:42 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/99 7:13:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, deimos1@EARTHLINK.NET writes: << I think that it should be "The Wedding Destroyer is after Clark and me," not "Clark and I". If you rephrase it to "The Wedding Destroyer is after me" it's grammatical, "The Wedding Destroyer is after I" isn't. That's how you tell. Nan >> Well how about if you say she? Because i think Lois said, She is after Clark and me.. and I think it would make more sense if she said, actually wait a minute it just came to me.. Lois says, "Now she's after Clark and me." Personally, I think it sounds better if she says, "Now she's fater Clark and I." But I could be wrong. Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:45:34 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/99 7:40:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes: << So, in response to your original statement, yes, biting his lip and fiddling with his glasses is part of Dean's contribution to Clark. Sheila >> I have seen scripts, but NOT an actual script. I am glad that those are things Dean added to the character. I thought they were a nice touch. Alexis ;-.) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:27:54 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Maggie Subject: Re: Posting drafts/segments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam Jernigan wrote: > Btw, does anyone want me to post Just Like That, here? To which this representative of the Number One Fan Club replies........ Uhm, the fact that you feel the need to *ask* this question puzzles me. My mind is boggled. Yes. Si. Por Favor. pleaaaaseee. and all that jazz. (should I continue? I can beg in not one but two languages ;o)) It's still not > finished, but I have a big chunk done, so I could catch the list up to > where I am on the boards, and post future segments both places ... (I > didn't used to be comfortable with that, but what the heck) You guys > know what a lousy writer I am anyway So, okay, so, uhm, not being the list mommy (or even the list aunt, or even the list cousin twice removed) I do feel the need to point out that such blasphemous words may not be uttered and are simply *not* allowed, not even by a fanfic goddess, not even by a fanfic goddess with her tongue in the vicinity of her cheek. Comprende? ;o) so a first draft or so > shouldn't shock anyone... Go ahead. Shock Me. ;o) yours in PamDevotion, Maggie the groupie has spoken. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:14:04 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: kubitc Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit << I think that it should be "The Wedding Destroyer is after Clark and me," not "Clark and I". If you rephrase it to "The Wedding Destroyer is after me" it's grammatical, "The Wedding Destroyer is after I" isn't. That's how you tell. >Well how about if you say she? Because i think Lois said, She is after Clark >and me.. and I think it would make more sense if she said, actually wait a >minute it just came to me.. Lois says, "Now she's after Clark and me." >Personally, I think it sounds better if she says, "Now she's fater Clark and >I." But I could be wrong. It doesn't matter what the subject of the sentence is. Nan is right; it should be "Clark and me." Would you say, "She is after I"? This is actually a really common grammar mistake. I work at my school's writing center and have seen people insist adamently that "I" can be used as an object when it's really only a subject. I think it's because people are taught to say "I" when saying, for example, "Clark and I interviewed our source" rather than "Clark and me interviewed our source," which is a really common mistake. -Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu * * * * * * * * * * "Life is like an onion; you peel off one layer at a time and sometimes you weep." -Carl Sandburg ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:35:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: English errors -- Entertaining site In-Reply-To: <0.2317e0c6.252eb422@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:42 PM -0400 10/7/99, No Name Available wrote: >Well how about if you say she? Because i think Lois said, She is after Clark >and me.. and I think it would make more sense if she said, actually wait a >minute it just came to me.. Lois says, "Now she's after Clark and me." >Personally, I think it sounds better if she says, "Now she's fater Clark and >I." But I could be wrong. Sorry, Alexis, but Lois said it correctly. "Me" is the object form, "I" is the subject form. I guess you need a new pet peeve. ;) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@springnet1.com kathyb@lcfanfic.com KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:53:00 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Subject: Re: NEW DRAFT: Honor Among Thieves (1/1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hazel wrote: > >> Should Clark phone home to Mom and Dad for advice? > > > >About what? > > Well, about this. About this ... what? About going to meet the man in the first place? About going through with the meeting *after* he spots the lead box? About what to do with the kryptonite, with a small "k"? I thought Clark had a number of decisions to make in your story. > >> "Superman," Henderson grunted as the Man of Steel appeared in his doorway. > >> "C'mon in, take a seat. I want you to listen to a recording." > > > >semicolon after c'mon in(?) > Is there something *wrong* with the comma? Well ... "C'mon in" and "Take a seat" are two independent clauses -- imperative but independent. So, I would either put a period after "in," put a conjunction and comma after "in," or put a semi-colon after "in." I guess semi-colon would be my last choice, all things considered. > >Two words, I think: plainclothes men > > >nevermind: one word > > I think I'm going to look these two up. > > Admittedly, "plainclothesmen" or "plainclothes men" is something not often > seen out of detective books; but "nevermind"?! Are you sure about that one, > Sandy? > > Just checked out the dictionaries online... "Plainclothesmen" is correct, > but while I could find an entry for "never mind," it didn't recognize > "nevermind" at all. Batting .500, Sandy. :) My off-line "Webster's New World Dictionary: Third College Edition" has no entry for "never mind." It does have one for "nevermind." Same for "plainclothes man." It lists it as two words. I just look them up and report what it says. > >> "It's Kryptonite." > > > >I'm not sure kryptonite is capped. Is it? Are other rocks and > >minerals? > > Good question. How about it, listees? Do you or don't you capitalize > Kryptonite? I vote yes, simply to give it more significance, but I'd like > to hear other opinions. I'm basing my use of a small "k" on the fact that all other elements begin with a small letter. ********** I know you've already decided what you're going to do and that's fine. I just felt I owed you a response on those items which weren't clear or on which we found different answers. Good luck on the finished piece. -- Sandy smcdermin@erols.com http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 21:22:32 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melisma Subject: Re: Reading Room Stories In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Does anyone actually have the stories then? > >If so, could they be sent to me? > >Thanks, >Carolyn >cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu Could I add my name to the list of people who want a copy of these stories, please? Melisma ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 23:39:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: James Tull Subject: Re: L&C/ST X-over? GREAT! >Carolyn is now worried that after all this build-up, FoLCs will find the >story disappointing:( > >Yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Still, glad someone will actually read it > >Carolyn Don't worry Carolyn, Mr. D8a will read it too. He enjoys a good crossover story...he just can't seem to find the time to finish posting the one he started. :-( Besides, I have read all kinds of PUBLISHED ST fiction, both good and bad, for all of the series. Yours can't be as bad as the one where the ST:TOS crew get thrown into the next arm of the Milky Way (a nice change of pace from being thrown out of the Milky Way!) and come across a world where the only mode of getting around was by transporter. The people developed it after they and their planet where caught in a phased quatum thing-a-ma-bob enveloped their planet and star and catupolted(?spelling?) them to their present location. James who could really use some shut eye right about...................