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I agree with Peace: the quizzes are more fun when they're themed. (Next
thing you'll know, we'll have a Kerth category for quizzes and -- no,
that's going to far. <g>) So this time I've given several snippets of
stories that have the villain everyone loves to hate: Tempus. (Or is that
Lex? Never mind, these are Tempus Tales. And I know I've said this before,
but I still find it highly funny that "CJ" has become canon for LnC's
children.)

One thing: while spoiler space is still requested and you have to give both
title and author to receive full credit, I am hereby declaring this an open
book quiz. Look it up on your hard drive, even search the archive if you
want to! I see no point in imposing rules that lessen the enjoyment of what
is supposed to be fun. :)

Hazel

Excerpt 1:

The man was hardly adverse to killing people who hindered his plans, but he
was very adverse to carrying around a poopy baby, and CJ had pooped at just
the right moment.

Martha had managed to make enough of a production of the diaper changing,
throwing in a bath for good measure, to give Lois time to get home. Lois
rushed to the house, but at the last minute, instinct told her to tread
softly. She eased in the front door and tiptoed down the hallway to the
bedroom. Peeking around the door frame, she saw Martha grimly refusing to
give CJ to a man with a gun.

The man had had enough of this. "Give me the baby," he demanded, "or I'll
kill him in your arms."

Horrified, Martha handed over the baby, who immediately began to wail in
the stranger's arm. Infuriated by the noise, the man raised his hand to
whip the child into silence.

A sudden shriek, "Hi-YA!", drowned out even CJ's cries, and Lois' foot
connected with the man's gun-hand. The gun went off, the bullet embedding
itself harmlessly in the ceiling, then the gun clattered to the floor,
where Martha scooped it up. She pointed it at the man.

The stranger ignored the gun, shaking his injured hand as he glared at the
new arrival. "Lois. So nice to see you again -- NOT!"

Excerpt 2:

       "I knew you would come for me.  You said you
would come if I needed you."
        Clark smiled and hugged the little boy.  Apparently
they had met before, but he couldn't quite remember.  "It's OK
now, little one.  You're right,  I'm here ."  He pulled the little
boy back from his hug and wiped his tears.  The little face
staring back at him was strangely familiar, and the Man of Steel
was instantly smitten.  Something about those big brown
eyes...
        "There now.  Everything's OK now."  As the little boy
sniffled and regained his composure, Clark picked him up and
gently patted his back.  "Now...do you think you can tell me
what happened?  What's a little boy like you doing out here in
the middle of nowhere, at this time of night?"
        The little boy looked up into Clark's eyes and smiled.
A small smile.  A smile familiar to Clark somehow, but he was
unable to place it.
        "A bad man came in our house and hurt daddy and
mommy with a green rock.  Mommy hit the man on the head,
and I put the rock back in the box...but...when I ran into the
blue light...everybody was gone."
        Clark looked at him, skeptically.  The little boy was
obviously upset and *something* had happened to his parents,
but his explanation left Clark even more bewildered.
        "Can you take me home now?  Can you make sure
mommy and daddy are OK?"
        Another tear had formed on the little boy's eyelid and
Clark thought he might cry as well.  "Sure, I'll take you home.
Can you tell me where you live?"
        The little boy looked at Clark questioningly.  "On
Senecca Drive - don't you remember my birthday party?"
        Clark, assuming a professional "Superman" had made
an appearance at the child's birthday party, smiled softly.  "I'm
sorry, I guess I do a lot of birthday parties."
        The little boy was starting to tear up again.  "But you
said my party was special, and you took me flying."
        "I took you *flying*?"
        "Yes.  That's when you told me you would always be
there if I needed you, because you're my daddy's best friend
and I'm very special to you.  Don't you remember...don't you
remember me, Superman?"
        Clark was searching for the words to gently tell the
boy that although he honestly did not remember him, he would
still do everything he could to help him and his parents.  Only
the words never came.
        As more tears began streaming down his face, the
little boy slowly began to speak.  "My name is CJ Kent.  My
mommy is Lois...my daddy is Clark Kent.  I live at 186
Senecca Drive, Metropolis, New Troy."

Excerpt 3:

"Napping, Herb?"

Lois spun around. Wells opened his eyes and began to sit up.

A man resembling Giles Templar stood in the doorway, holding a pair of
cocked pistols. His eyes held a familiar mocking gleam that Lois recognized
instantly.

"Tempus," she spat.

"Well, house guests already," Tempus smiled. "Spunky Gal Reporter and
Herbie the Wonderless."

Wells stood. "What have you done with the magistrate Templar?"

"That's good, Herb, but it will never replace 'who put the bomp in the bomp
shoo bomp'."

"You plan to kill Washington," Lois said flatly.

"I can always count on you to cut to the chase, Lois," he said, and handed
a handkerchief to Wells. "Be so kind as to gag Miss Lane, because I know if
she's here, so is her hus... boyfriend with the good hearing."

"What's the point this time, Tempus?" Wells said, tying on the
handkerchief.  "Liberty isn't just one man. If you kill Colonel Washington,
the dream of freedom won't die with him."

Tempus consulted the grandfather clock. "Herb, if you could just put your
patriotic mumbo-jumbo into a 200-word-or-less essay and slip it into a
Hallmark card, I'll read it later -- but for now, I have someone else to
meet with, so kindly follow me to the pantry where I can stash you with the
other vegetables."

Excerpt 4:

"My name is John Doe... I'm a darn nice guy.  Can't you tell?" Tempus joked.
"All kidding aside, my name is Tempus. I come from the future."

"Sure you are.  Nigel, call more guards, get this man out of here or we'll
have a body to dispose of tonight."

"Yes, sir," Nigel said.

"Oh, look, it's Alfred the butler.  Hi, Alfred!" Tempus chided.

Lex pointed the gun at Tempus again.

"Hey, hey, hey, calm down, Luthor.  I'm telling the truth; how else would I
know that in one week you will attempt to sabotage the colonist shuttle for
space station Prometheus, securing the space program for yourself?  Gee,
Lex,
I didn't know you were so skeptical!"

Lex fumbled, but at the same time, he kept his composure. If anything, he
was
intrigued. "Go on."

"You don't believe me.  I know. But, oh yes, you will. You know what happens
if I don't warn you about this?"

"Yes?"

"Your plan will fail.  So, we need to take some precautions.  I can tell you
what'll happen if we don't take them.  A steadfast reporter named Lois Lane
will get her nosy self onto the shuttle and try to go up with it for a
story.
A man with powers far beyond those of mortal men will come to her rescue, of
course, and then he'll eat the bomb.  The crowd goes wild.  The reporter
tells
everyone, 'It was a bomb--he--he *ate* it!'  Everyone will cheer this
Superman, and good old Lois will become his drooling cheerleader for about a
year.  I don't know about you, but I swear I've seen this one on cable at
least three times, and I *don't* care to see it again."

Excerpt 5:

He signalled for his henchman to take the gag out of Lois' mouth and
continued nibbling on his chips.

When Lois finally had enough moisture back in her mouth to be able
to talk she asked, "Why are you telling me all this?"

"I'm a villain, Lois.  We *always* tell the victim what we're
going to do.  It adds to the suspense."   He bared his teeth and
laughed again.  The man's cackle was getting on Lois' nerves.
"Only, this time, the heroine can't use this to plan her escape,
because she's out here in the jungle and no Superman in sight."
He leered at her.

"Who *are* you?"

"In Utopia they call me Tempus...but *you* can call me John Doe."

Lois had a bad feeling about all this.  This man was pure evil.
She felt sorry for that strange visitor from another planet.  If
this man could kill world leaders what else was he capable of?
"This...Superman...What are you going to do to him?"

"That's on a need to know basis, Lois...and you won't need to
know--because you'll be *dead*!"

Lois blanched.  The last thing she saw was the man giving a
chopping hand signal.  She felt a sudden dull pain at the back of
her head, the room swayed and she fell into darkness.

Excerpt 6:

        "Clark, selfless and heroic as he was, told me to get some sleep,
that the
Planet was on the job, but now I know that he rushed there," he pointed
(north; he should have pointed south) "to where the wreckage was being
kept, to gather the proof that would bring the saboteurs to justice!"
        "That sounds like him, sir," Mr. White said solemnly. "But...."
        Note that Mr. White didn't rush this "but." He drew it out, maybe
hoping
for Mr. <edited to prevent obvious clue>'s interruption:
        "Yes, but! But! A terrible word - but! But now! Now the saboteurs
discovered him and... and... he's... he's..." his shoulders slumped and he
whispered, "...gone. The one chance for hope in the world, for a future of
peace, love, light and understanding - which I've always been a big
advocate of...."
        Everyone nodded. They were big advocates of all that, too.
        Mr. <edited to avoid giving it away> approached the railing, half
turning
to include the people from the conference room. "Can you even imagine a
future like that...?"
        Everyone tried.
        "Your wildest hopes and dreams come true...?"
        Everyone had wild hopes and dreams.
        "Well... stop imagining it, it's not going to happen now because
he's
gone, all gone. Everyday will not be like Christmas, there will be no
Federation of Worlds, and no one will invent nonfattening chocolate
truffles!"
        Everyone was speechless, their happy futures torn away.
        I had no idea what he was talking about. I have a good idea now
(though I
don't believe the bit about Christmas and the Federation), but you'll learn
all about that later.
        Mr. <edited for same reason> dried his eyes and shrugged his
shoulders so
that his designer suit fell perfectly about his slim, athletic frame.
"Yes," he nodded... and chuckled, "he's dead." Gleefully, light-heartedly:
"Dead, dead, dead! The whole dynasty - up in flames! " He glanced at his
golden Rolex. "Oh, look at the time. I have a party to arrange - for
myself! Champagne and caviar, all for me!"
        The Pit staff was stunned silent.
        "Oh, I'm so good. Too bad you'll never know what you all missed or
how
hard I've worked on this. When they sort through the debris of that hangar,
they'll find charred little pieces of him and"--

Enjoy!
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Okay, looks like I'm not going to get any more "submissions" here, so even
though no one got one, I'll post the answers now.

(but just in case someone still wants to play...)

S
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Story 1: "Charity Begins at Home," by Sandy McDermin, part of S5

Story 2: "Short Revelation," by Cloudy Eyes

Story 3: "Short Short Fanfic," by Jennifer L. Adkins

Story 4: "Lois' Revenge," by B.B Medos

Story 5: "Quick Change (or, How to Go From Farmboy to Superhero in One
Second or Less)," by Carla Humbert

Wendy got 3, 4, and 5; Audrey got 1, 4, and 5; Christy got 1 and 5; and
Charlotte got 4. Congrats to Wendy and Audrey for tying for first place!

Hazel
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In a message dated 8/1/99 1:02:42 AM EST, zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL writes:

<< Excerpt 1:

 The man was hardly adverse to killing people who hindered his plans, but he
 was very adverse to carrying around a poopy baby, and CJ had pooped at just
 the right moment.

 Martha had managed to make enough of a production of the diaper changing,
 throwing in a bath for good measure, to give Lois time to get home. Lois
 rushed to the house, but at the last minute, instinct told her to tread
 softly. She eased in the front door and tiptoed down the hallway to the
 bedroom. Peeking around the door frame, she saw Martha grimly refusing to
 give CJ to a man with a gun.

 The man had had enough of this. "Give me the baby," he demanded, "or I'll
 kill him in your arms."

 Horrified, Martha handed over the baby, who immediately began to wail in
 the stranger's arm. Infuriated by the noise, the man raised his hand to
 whip the child into silence.

 A sudden shriek, "Hi-YA!", drowned out even CJ's cries, and Lois' foot
 connected with the man's gun-hand. The gun went off, the bullet embedding
 itself harmlessly in the ceiling, then the gun clattered to the floor,
 where Martha scooped it up. She pointed it at the man.

 The stranger ignored the gun, shaking his injured hand as he glared at the
 new arrival. "Lois. So nice to see you again -- NOT!"
  >>

Well i have been observing these fanfic quizes for a long time because
frankly I am a newbie when it comes to reading and writing fanfic!  But oh
do
my surprise do i see but a fanfic i have ACTUALLY READ!!!! YAY!!!
{Fortunately I read this one a few weeks ago..}  So without further adieu...

This excerpt is from Episode 2 of, S5 and it is titled, "Time After Time,"
and the author is Peace.

I am hope I am right because if I am, then i am VERY proud of myself! LOL!

Alexis ;-.)
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#1 - Time After Time, by Peace (S5, Ep 2 - thank goddess I'm studying my
seasons for another reason, huh? :) I think this ep and Back to the Future,
by Barbara, are two of my fave eps from this season...

#2 - I don't know, but somebody *please* tell me... It sounds *really*
good, and I want to read it, like now!

#3 - Star Spangled Superman, by my esteemed Round Robin colleages. It was
Misha's section, tho'. I absolutely *adore* watching Misha write on her
feet like this - she comes up with some amazing stuff that would take me
hours of writing, re-writing and polishing to feel good about, and she
types it all up at superspeed in the 20 minutes alotted to an at-bat
section. I tell you! You all should come poke your noses into a RR session
for a while (even if just in the peanut gallery), just to watch her at work
:)

#4 - If someone doesn't tell me what this one is, I'm gonna go *nutz*! It
sounds good, but I have *no clue* what it is - I haven't read it yet :(

#5 - ARRRRRRGH! I *know* I have read this! Why can't I remember what it is
called? /tearing my hair out here!

#6 - This one is totally unfamiliar to me, but it looks GOOD!

Hazel, please don't dally with the answers on this one... There are some
great-looking exerpts to stories I can't wait to read!

Debra G
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Well #6 is from Debby's "My Journal"

--Laurie (who recognizes/remembers several others but can't pin the name on
them)
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Yvonne and Tanya cordially invite you to join us in our roleplaying
fanfiction.  The idea of this 'game' is that participants take on the role
of a character in the plot and post emails to each other to advance the
plot.  The plot gets a starting point in the form of an incident reported
in the Metropolis Star, but thereafter, the direction the story takes is
entirely up to the participants.

We think this is going to be great fun, but to make it work, we need plenty
of volunteers to take on the characters' roles, so even if you've never
written a word of fanfic in your life before, consider this your chance to
dip a toe into the waters of creative writing.

There's quite a lot of information we need to give you, so please bear with
us if this email seems over-long :)

Regards,
Yvonne and Tanya
(yconnell@ukf.net/tanya_walsh@hotmail.com)

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Metropolis Star, Monday, Courtney Hart
____________________________________________________________________

SHOCK AS PLANET EXPLODES!!!!

Two staff members were killed and dozens injured when an explosion tore
through the Metropolis branch of "The Daily Planet" Sunday afternoon.  A
chemical bomb planted in the basement of the building wreaked havoc on the
structure - recently rebuilt after a similar occurrence less than three
years ago.   This tragic incident has rendered the Planet building
completely useless for newspaper production.

Police have no clues as to the identity of the bomber as yet. The Daily
Planet has an abundance of enemies, which means that the perpetrator may
literally be one of thousands of people. According to a reliable source,
evidence found at the scene included a pair of trousers.

Jack Fowler, 37, and Kirsty Dunning, 29, both business reporters,  were
killed when a brick stairwell collapsed over their heads.  Sixty-seven
other staff members were admitted to hospital with injuries ranging from
shock to internal bleeding, but thanks to quick action from Superman and
other brave emergency personnel many fatalities were averted.

Is this the end for the Daily Planet?  When an explosion masterminded by
convicted felon and ex-entrepreneur, Lex Luthor, destroyed the building
years ago it was almost impossible to obtain funding to rebuild. Sources
close to the owner, James Carlton, have speculated that he will be unable
to secure finance for a second rebuild. When The Star asked Perry White,
editor of the Planet, for comment he responded with, "The show will go on.
The Planet and what it stands for has been around for over 40 years and we
are not going to let an explosion destroy that. The people behind the
Planet are more important than a few bricks and mortar, and they will not
let these
criminals win.' White declined to answer any further questions.

We asked award-winning and controversial journalist Lois Lane, for her
thoughts on the issue, but received no comment from either her or her
partner and spouse, Clark Kent.  Reporters and editors will be working from
home using sophisticated technology to write and edit their stories until
new premises can be obtained.
____________________________________________________________________

For more great reading look inside -

Y2K - The truth about the millennium
Aliens ate my baby!

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To join the 'game', please:
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Send an email to Yvonne (yconnell@ukf.net), stating:
   a. Which 3 characters you would most like to play, in descending order
of preference (ie the one you want most goes first)
   b. Which 3 characters you would least like to play, in descending order
of preference (ie the one you want least goes first)
   c. [optional]  A description of one new character you'd like to play
(who they are, a brief history, and some idea of what contribution the
character might make to the plot)
   d. Cast your vote for a title for this story.  Your choices are:
Metropolis; Metropolitan; Once Upon A Time In Metropolis; The Wrong
Trousers; The Metropolis Story

Initially, character assignments will be done by a 3rd party not taking
part in the game.

Here's a list of characters for you to consider:

Characters we can't do without:
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Perry, Jimmy, Lois, Clark

Characters we'd like:
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Cat, Martha, Jonathan, Lex Luthor, Inspector Henderson

Miscellaneous others:
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Ellen, Sam, Bobby Bigmouth, Jimmy's Dad, Lucy, Jack, Bobby Bigmouth,
Scardino, Tempus, HG Wells
anyone else you fancy!

Playing the game
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If you are selected to play a major character, be prepared for a reasonable
level of commitment.  You'll be holding the story up for everyone else if
you can't respond to regular emails within a day or two.  If you think this
is too onerous a commitment, you can, of course, share the role with
someone else - as long as the two of you are consistent!

When (or if) the game gets well-established, then one of the arbitrator's
(see below) jobs will be to make sure it doesn't run on indefinitely,
either by pushing the plot along or announcing a time limit.

Background Detail
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The Daily Planet has been bombed, and as a result, all editorial staff are
having to work from home until repairs are carried out and the building
declared safe again.  Printing operations have been contracted out to the
same company who print the Metropolis Star for the duration. Temporary
premises have been hired for other departments (marketing, page make-up,
circulation etc), but these are not big enough to accommodate the large
editorial team, who as stated previously, are working from home and sending
in copy via email.  Perry is looking into the possibility of creating a
couple of
meeting rooms at the temporary premises, so that at least editorial staff
can meet up once in a while - but nothing is certain yet.

Naturally, the big question on everyone's mind is - who bombed the Planet
and why?  This will form the basis of our investigation.

The time period for this scenario is sometime during the fifth season. That
is, Lois and Clark are married and living in the house on Hyperion Avenue.
Perry is separated from Alice, and Jimmy is still seeking the love of his
life.  Cat has recently been re-employed by the Planet as the paper's
society columnist, and Lex Luthor has somehow returned from the dead yet
again.

The Rules
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(1) No killing off main characters
(2) No extra-marital affairs for Lois or Clark
(3) The guidelines given in the list FAQ apply
(4) Do unto others as you would wish to be done unto - eg don't knock
someone else out of the action unless you have their consent first.  On the
other hand, players should be prepared for the unexpected - within reason!

How To Play
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(1) All plot-advancement must be done by emails submitted to the list
(LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU).
(2) Private discussion between characters is permitted, but see (1)
(3) Each email must refer to at least one clue or item from a previous
email, although not necessarily the most recent one.
(4) Email subject format is [Fanfic Title]: Clark to Perry
(5) Players can change the 'from' address in their email program to that of
their characters' (eg ClarkKent@DailyPlanet.com) - if they want to.
(6) Emails may include extracts of conversations between characters
(especially Lois and Clark!), or newspaper articles
(7) Depending on how this takes off, meetings may take place occasionally
on IRC - if Perry can get the rooms sorted out, of course ;)

Characters fall into 3 categories:
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1 Major (Perry, Clark/Superman, Lois, Cat, Jimmy)
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These guys start the story off.  Perry is organising everybody, L&C are
already investigating and getting Jimmy to research things for them, and
Cat is... just Cat.  She might be supplying background information on a
corrupt councillor or two, for example.

2 Wildcards (Scardino, Inspector Henderson, Jimmy's Dad, Lex)
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These characters may have to wait a bit until some plot develops, but then
they can jump in with information/comments as they like

3 Minor (Martha, Jonathan, Lucy, Ellen, Sam)
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These characters just butt in when ever they feel like it :)  For
example, Martha emails Lois with a failsafe recipe for brownies.  They can
also take part in the plot, if and when they think the time is right

Lois & Clark
------------
These two characters will have to work together, and may discuss things
privately, as long as they follow the rule that plot advancement is done
via the list.  They can send messages to the list independently (eg Clark
to Perry) or together (eg L&C to Perry).  When they send in messages, it
would be nice if they could occasionally relate part or all of the
conversations they've had together.  Debby, in her 'My Journal' story, is a
good example to follow in this regard.

In addition, there will be a couple of background roles:

The Arbitrator
-----------------
Keeps a watchful eye over the proceedings and intervenes if the plot is
disintegrating beyond repair. They may do this by (privately) asking a
player to say or do something which brings the story back on track, or by
announcing an external influence (eg the alien spaceship which is about to
land and carry all the characters off to the planet Zod explodes and is
never heard of again ;))

Yvonne will be assuming the role of Arbitrator initially.

The Administrator
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Maintains the cast list - including finding replacements for people who
leave, and finding volunteers for new characters as needed.

Tanya will be the Administrator.
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<<Charlotte, there is a sequel - look for 'Clark's Response' in the
Archive.
Wendy>>

Wendy and others as well - Sorry for the confusion I caused by refering to
the sequel.

I have the sequel, Clark's response, but when I checked B.B. Medos' web site
a while back she indicated she was considering a further one for this set in
the future.  I love both of these stories, (they are so completely unlike
any
other LnC) and it's that further continuation I'm looking for.

Charlotte ever hopeful, ever waiting patiently
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You are right of course.  See why I get myself in trouble with all these
things.  At least I got IMHO right.

<<But I always thought LOL meant "laugh out loud".

Irene>>

I'm still going to interpret it as lots of love even if I have to write it
out.

Lots of love, Charlotte
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Just realised that these have all been answered, here and there.

1.  Can't Live (If Living Is Without You) by Racontour 27
2.  When Separate Worlds Collide Book 1 by Mandy Crustner.
3.   Always Something There To Remind Me by Zoom
4.   Million Miles Away - Pam Jernigan.
5.   Desperately Seeking Lois by Jennifer Eagan

Diyan gets points for spotting #2 and #5 and kudos but unfortunately no
points for amazingly detailed plot synopsis on #3 and #4. <g> As does
Cynthia for her accurate plot synopsis on #5. And the highest no. of points
for correcting guessing the other four. Yay, Cynthia. And Peace correctly
identified #3 and #5.

Oh, and there are no rules to my quizzes other than you have to correctly
identify both author and title to get the points. Although if you're really
savvy on the synopsis I'll probably let you off with just one or the other.
<g> I'm too astonished that people answer these at all to demand that they
do it completely from memory! <G> Even with a fanfic index to help me out, I
can't track down half of these.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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"The Right Hon was a tubby little chap who looked as though he had been
poured into his clothes and had forgotten to say "When!"  -- PG Wodehouse,
Very Good, Jeeves.

"We're living in an age where you have to call a chick and ask her if she'll
wear a dress tonight. And they say, "You're weird."  --- Tim Rose.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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"The Right Hon was a tubby little chap who looked as though he had been
poured into his clothes and had forgotten to say "When!"  -- PG Wodehouse,
Very Good, Jeeves.

"We're living in an age where you have to call a chick and ask her if she'll
wear a dress tonight. And they say, "You're weird."  --- Tim Rose.
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LabRat adds her two cents <g>:

I think it means Lots of Love to a few people on the net, but not to FoLCs.
Adding more confusion to the subject, I howled when reading a computer mag
the other day which had helpfully compiled a list of frequently used
acronyms and included:

LOL - Leaving On Line

Go figure. Guess it just depends on who you hang with. <G>

LabRat :)

Charlotte wrote:

>You are right of course.  See why I get myself in trouble with all these
>things.  At least I got IMHO right.
>
>
><<But I always thought LOL meant "laugh out loud".
>
>Irene>>
>
>
>I'm still going to interpret it as lots of love even if I have to write it
>out.
>
>Lots of love, Charlotte
>
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>
> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
>
> S
> P
> A
> C
> E
>

Excerpt 4:

"My name is John Doe... I'm a darn nice guy.  Can't you tell?" Tempus
joked.
"All kidding aside, my name is Tempus. I come from the future."

"Sure you are.  Nigel, call more guards, get this man out of here or
we'll
have a body to dispose of tonight."

"Yes, sir," Nigel said.

"Oh, look, it's Alfred the butler.  Hi, Alfred!" Tempus chided.>

=======

This one is from Craig Byrne and Alison Word's "The Odd Couple", which
was part of The Unaired Fifth Season.  (And don't miss the sequel "Past
and Present Danger"  Both are available on the archives.) The "Alfred
the butler" part gives it away -- if you know Craig, you'd recogonize
his particular brand of humor right away.

But also, this is the only story I can think of where Lex and Tempus
team up, and Tempus uses Lex to destroy Superman before Superman ever
was.  A truly original premise, and Craig and Alison did a good job with
this story.  It's definately worth reading.

Let's see ...

Debra got 1 and 3, and Laurie got 6.

I've read number 2 -- it's a time paradox thing, but hanged if I can
remember the title or author.  I'm sure I'll be hitting my head, and
saying "of course" as soon as someone identifies it.

I have no idea about #5, but it sure sounds like Tempus.

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"Ann E. McBride" wrote:
> In a message dated 7/30/99 11:24:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> smcdermin@EROLS.COM writes:
>
> << Hmm.  I guess I should relate this to L&C fanfic.... Okay.  Question?
>  Would Lex Luthor thrive most in a state of nature or in a state of
>  order?  (*I* truly don't know.  In one, he would do as he pleased and in
>  the other ... he would do as he pleased.)
>   >>
>
> I'm not sure about the answer to this one, but Lex certainly would have
been
> a believer in Rousseau's concept of "l'enfant sauvage" (the wild child).
He
> went to a great deal of trouble to create them in his clones.

He seemed to want to create beings which would obey him more than
anything.

> I don't think
> he would have bought into the concept of the Social Contract, however.
> Richelieu would have been more to his liking.  In fact, I think it is
> possible that in another life, Lex was Richelieu -- absolute power being
near
> and dear to Lex's heart.  Lex would have liked Sade's philosophy as well.
> (That whole idea of being above the law was so Lex.)

You're right, Ann, Lex would have made a fine Cardinal Richelieu,
although I can't see him relishing even the nominal leadership of a
Louis XIII.<g> Oddly, Lex seemed not only to want to be the power behind
the throne  but he also appeared to relish public approbation. He needed
Space Station Prometheus to fail, for instance, so that the world would
turn to him to save it. (However, I'm certainly not saying that this was
his primary motivation -- far from it). He obviously gladly accepted
"the keys to the city" which were then turned over to Superman as its
newest most prominent citizen in ILTY, and he looked a little
disgruntled that Superman got a bigger reception at the bachelor auction
(more sighs and gasps) then he did.  I also think that Lex not only
coveted Superman's raw power but he appeared almost jealous of
Superman's reputation and status.  He spent a lot of time trying to
knock Superman down in the eyes of Lois, Metropolis, and the world --
even if he couldn't destroy him physically.

> Clark, on the other hand, obviously bought into the "Spirit of the Laws"
as
> described by Montesquieu as well as the social contract.  If he hadn't,
Lex
> would have been history after the premiere.

Well, you seemed to have answered my question about Lex, i.e., state of
nature/state of order, without knowing it<g>, and Pam (below) did so
with full knowledge<g>:

Pam Jernigan wrote:
>
> > Okay.  Question?
> > Would Lex Luthor thrive most in a state of nature or in a state of
> > order?  (*I* truly don't know.  In one, he would do as he pleased and in
> > the other ... he would do as he pleased.)
>
> A state of order.  It wouldn't inhibit him, as you say, but it would
> hamper his enemies.  A state of chaos puts much more emphasis on brute
> force, which is not our Lex's specialty.

You're so right.  A state of order certainly wouldn't hamper Lex -- in
fact he would and did use the system for all it was worth and enjoyed
doing so in the process. However, a state of order did hamper his
"enemies," who had to (or, more likely, wanted to) concern themselves
with the rules and laws of society.  This begs the question ... if Lex
had somehow managed to acquire the power of Superman would he then seek
to be absolute ruler through pure might or would he still seek public
legitimacy.  Machiavelli said it is better for "a prince" to be feared
than loved, but Lex always struck me as needing that veneer of
respectability and acceptance.

> You certainly know your Rochefoucauld.  I always liked him.  Such a nice
> blend of cynicism and humor.

I don't really know much about him.  I'm just familiar with his pithy
sayings from a french class I took. (An early member of the Algonquin
roundtable in spirit no doubt.)

Sandy
smcdermin@erols.com
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For all you poor Americans who just woke up a little while ago, :) you may
not be aware that this week's new fanfics are already on the archive. Run,
don't walk, to download "Life in a Different World" by Richard Mobile. If
you think the life Margaret has painted for the regular alt-Clark is a sad
one, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

Marvelous story. Go ahead and read it. We'll wait. :)

Hazel

(whose only objection is the lack of closure at the end, and sure hopes
that means Richard has a sequel planned)
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Hazel wrote:

> I agree with Peace: the quizzes are more fun when they're themed. (Next
> thing you'll know, we'll have a Kerth category for quizzes and -- no,
> that's going to far. <g>) So this time I've given several snippets of
> stories that have the villain everyone loves to hate: Tempus. (Or is that
> Lex? Never mind, these are Tempus Tales. And I know I've said this before,
> but I still find it highly funny that "CJ" has become canon for LnC's
> children.)
>
> One thing: while spoiler space is still requested and you have to give
both
> title and author to receive full credit, I am hereby declaring this an
open
> book quiz. Look it up on your hard drive, even search the archive if you
> want to! I see no point in imposing rules that lessen the enjoyment of
what
> is supposed to be fun. :)
>
> Hazel
> Spoiler Space follows

Okay, here goes:

#! is Time After Time by Peace
#2 is "My Three Sons" by Ladee V
#3 is "Star Spangled Superman" a Round Robin
#4 is "The Odd Couple" by Craid Byrne and Allison Word
  #5 is "Only You: Promise" by Margaret Brignell
#6 is "My Journal" by Debby Stark

Nan
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> Sorry.  Small typo.

The Odd Couple is by Craig Byrne and Allison WordNan
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Me again.

I've had correct guesses for 2,4, and 5 but I'm still missing 1 and 3.
With all the other quizzes out there, have you guys forgotten about
mine? /me asks wistfully.

Or is this just too hard seeing as 1 and 3 aren't in the archive? These
are from active web sites however, not from defunct sites.

One more day to give this a try, guys and then the answers will be
posted tomorrow.

Irene

--- "Irene D." <sirenegold@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Seeing as Wendy doesn't have access to this list
> over the weekend, I
> decided to try to put together a more difficult quiz
> that might get us
> through till Monday.
>
> These stories are all off private webpages although
> two are in the
> archive also.  When I post answers, I will also give
> URLs to these
> sites.
>
> Good luck,
> Irene
>
> 1.
>
> "I'll only be gone for a day or two," Clark
> explained to Lois. She was
> sitting up in bed for the first time since
> yesterday, when she had been
> well. The skin below her eyes was red, and she
> looked like an
> all-around mess, with her hair mussed up and no
> makeup at all.
>
> "That's fine," Lois said drearily. "But what if I
> need something?" she
> said. "I can barely hold my head up, so how am I
> supposed to get to the
> bathroom?" Although it was unspoken, both of them
> knew that Jonathan
> and Martha would have dropped their other plans to
> rush to Metropolis
> and care for Lois, had they still been alive. In
> fact, there were many
> things that Jonathan and Martha had once done that
> Lois and Clark were
> now unable to do.
>
> "I've got someone," Clark said, and as he said that,
> their bedroom door
> opened, and Ellen Lane walked in. She was holding a
> tray in her hands,
> and had a huge smile on her lips. "I've brought some
> chicken noodle
> soup," she said. "That should be just the thing for
> you." Before Lois
> could speak, she said, "Or do you have a fever?
> 'Feed a cold, starve a
> fever.' Or is that 'Feed a fever, starve a cold'?"
> She had ceased
> talking to her daughter, and was now talking solely
> to herself. "'Feed
> a fever and feed a cold'? "Starve a fever and--"
>
> "Just hand over the tray," Lois said, rubbing her
> nose. "I don't know
> about fevers or colds, but I do know I'm hungry."
>
> Clark smiled as he watched the witty banter between
> the two Lane women.
> "Lois is just like her mother," Clark thought to
> himself. "They'll be
> just fine while I'm away."
>
> 2.
>
> "Where am I?" she wondered. She recalled a deafening
> noise, a great
> pain, Clark holding her in his arms and then ...
>
> Nothing but blackness.
>
> Clark. Her brow furrowed and Mayson caught her
> breath as she remembered
> seeing the Superman logo peeping from between the
> popped buttons of his
> pale blue shirt. In the instant before she lost
> consciousness, Mayson
> Drake had discovered Clark was Superman. He had
> deceived her! Superman
> equals Clark? She shook her head in disbelief,
> moaning as sparks of
> pain bounced around inside her head.
>
> It certainly explained his strange behaviour,
> including the odd
> departures that Lois Lane took for granted. `But
> Lois must know,'
> Mayson thought to herself. Many questions rose to
> the forefront of her
> mind, but she pushed them away as the door opened
> and a new dilemma
> presented itself.
>
> 3.
>
> "Hi. I told you it would be boring." She wiped her
> face and neck with a
> towel.
> "Hi, honey," he said, hoping she wouldn't mind the
> new name he was
> trying out.
> "Did you just call me honey?'," she asked, taken
> aback a little.
> "I thought I'd try it out. You don't like it?"
>
>
> Lois, not wanting to seem abnormal, and deep down
> really liking to hear
> Clark call her that, knowing that he meant it,
> replied, "Well, I didn't
> say that. It's just the first time you've ever
> called me that." She
> paused for a moment, considering the name, "I think
> I kind of like it,
> . . . sweetheart." She grinned as she heard that
> last word come out of
> her month, and she kissed him on the cheek. She had
> never used that
> word before, but, then, she had never felt about
> anyone the way she
> felt about Clark. Every day, as she woke up, she was
> amazed that she
> felt so good. Unlike everyone else in her life, she
> knew that Clark
> would be there for her. Sure, he might be rushing
> off to save someone
> or avert a world disaster, but, whenever she really
> needed him, he'd be
> there. She was still getting used to that concept,
> but, slowly, the
> insecurities were fading away -- some of them
> anyway.
>
> 4.
>
>
>      Clark's head jerked sideways as a certain
> familiar word pierced
> through the crowds and hit his consciousness like a
> bull's-eye.  He
> didn't understand the response that followed, but he
> knew it was a
> woman's voice.  And then, a second later, a loud
> blast echoed through
> the park.  Immediately, he looked around himself for
> the anxious,
> questioning faces of the others in the crowd, but no
> one was showing
> the
> least amount of interest because...
>
>      <<Omigod!>>
>
> no one could ... hear.
>      That was no woman! Clark's heartbeat jumped
> erratically in
> recognition. That was-- Lois! Something's happened!
> Something's
> happened to Lois and the kids!
>
>
> 5
>
> So, obviously he had to do something with his
> clothes when he changed.
> She ruled out her first thought that he stashed them
> on his being.
> Where would he have kept them?  She’d seen how
> snugly his costume fit,
> showing every tiny, incredible detail of his male
> form….
>
>
>
> ‘Lois, don’t go there,’ she reprimanded herself
> quickly, but not before
> an appreciative smile crossed her face.  She forced
> herself to think.
> Maybe he just had to ditch his clothes wherever he
> decided to change
> into the Superman costume.  After all…his clothes
> had to go somewhere.
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi, Irene.

>Me again.
>
>I've had correct guesses for 2,4, and 5 but I'm still missing 1 and 3.
>With all the other quizzes out there, have you guys forgotten about
>mine? /me asks wistfully.
>
>Or is this just too hard seeing as 1 and 3 aren't in the archive? These
>are from active web sites however, not from defunct sites.
>
>One more day to give this a try, guys and then the answers will be
>posted tomorrow.
>
>Irene

Well, I don't mind embarrassing myself and posting a possibly wrong answer,
so...

(spoiler space already supplied by leaving Irene's comments. How I wish
people (including myself) would remember to do this more often.)

Number one. Don't know the name, don't know the title. But I'll assume it's
in that not quite completed I'm not sure how many Fs "Fun fantastic etc
fifth season," in which Lana is even more of a witch than Margaret's :) and
Clark apparently believes in Spock's "the good of the many outweighs the
good of the few or the one," as he chooses to let Martha and Jon die in
order to save Perry, Jimmy, and Lois. (three to two, you understand)

Hazel
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I have never actually written a fanfic, but I am thinking about giving =
it a whirl and I just want to get some of my info correct.

First of all, what is the name of the bar that Lois hung out in and sang =
in while she was "Wanda Detroit?"  And also did Bibbo run the bar?  =
Unfortunately I don't have these episodes on tape yet and my memory =
isn't serving me very well.

Also, what is the correct spelling of Hob's Bay?  In all of the episodes =
with Leslie Luckabee (these are called the Lex Files, aren't they?) the =
tiles on the wall of the hideout spell it as I have spelled it above.  =
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Thanks for all you help!

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Also, what is the correct spelling of Hob's =
Bay?&nbsp; In all=20
of the episodes with Leslie Luckabee (these are called the Lex Files, =
aren't=20
they?) the tiles on the wall of the hideout spell it as I have spelled =
it=20
above.&nbsp; Yet, in other fanfic and perhaps even in the comics (I am =
not=20
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anyone know=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks for all you help!</FONT></DIV>
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Okay, I'll try this one.
1. Time After Time by Peace.  One of my favorite FH continuatinos also.
2. No clue, but it does sound good.
3. Star-Spangled Superman by by Misha <mhall@sound.net>; carrielu
<carrielu@mailexcite.com>; ChrisM
<mulders@mindspring.com>; CrystalW <JCWimmer@aol.com>; Eraygun
<Eraygun@aol.com>; Mackteach <Mackteach@aol.com>; Zoomway <zoomway@aol.com>
Yeah, that was copy and paste, but it's okay this time, right?
4. Is it The Odd Couple by Allison Word and Craig Byrne?
5. It sounds vaguely familiar...
6. Oh that's easy.  My Journal, Day 11 by Debby.  One of my very favorite
fanfics of the year.

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In a message dated 8/1/99 11:33:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< e. Run,
 don't walk, to download "Life in a Different World" by Richard Mobile. If
 you think the life Margaret has painted for the regular alt-Clark is a sad
 one, you ain't seen nothin' yet. >>

Ain't that the truth!  This is an excellent story, but ohhhh.....  I agree,
it certainly appears to have left open a large hole waiting for a sequel.  I
hope one is planned.

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Great story, Mandy!  I don't want to spoil it for anyone, so I'll just say
that it came on like gangbusters, and the suspense never let up until the
funny, WAFF-y ending!  Good work--I can hardly wait for Part 3!

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In a message dated 7/29/99 10:26:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Debby@SWCP.COM
writes:

<<
 Let's see: my stupid job pays about $11.50 an hour... but I do have some
 savings... ;) >>

Hmmm.... I go back to work in 2 weeks.  I could probably fund an hour or two
if it helps.  <g>

Ann
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If I'm not mistaken, the club where Wanda sang at was called Bibbo's Ace =
o' Clubs (or Ace of Clubs).  As far as the correct spelling of its =
location, in the comics I think it is spelled Hobb's Bay.

Hope this helps,

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This is a different story. Quite riveting and very hard to put down a
little dark and sad but it is a MUST READ.   I really hope that a sequel or
sequels are planned as it would be a shame to leave it like this

jeanne

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In a message dated 8/1/99 11:33:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<< e. Run,
 don't walk, to download "Life in a Different World" by Richard Mobile. If
 you think the life Margaret has painted for the regular alt-Clark is a sad
 one, you ain't seen nothin' yet. >>

Ain't that the truth!  This is an excellent story, but ohhhh.....  I agree,
it certainly appears to have left open a large hole waiting for a sequel.
 I
hope one is planned.

Ann
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Well, one of the folc's across the pond has indeed read this fic already and
sends kudos to the terrific author.  Now, I want to know what happens next!
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things? Like Jimmy's other arm ;)  This story is fast paced and intriguing,
as I have come to expect from Richard, Mobile. (male or female, real name or
pseudo?)  And what a great take on what happens to someone who grows up
without the love he needs, Kryptonian or Earthling.
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I know a couple of these... I love Tempus stories :-)

#1 is Time After Time by Peace... i think it was ep. 2 in S5

#2 is called My three sons by Ladee V

#3 is Star Spangled Superman by the IRC Round Robin group

I think #4 is from TUFS... it might be called something like the Odd Couple

#5 is Only You Promise by Margaret Brignell

#6 sounds good, but I have no idea what it is

-Alicia
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>
>
> Diyan gets points for spotting #2 and #5 and kudos but unfortunately no
> points for amazingly detailed plot synopsis on #3 and #4.

Well, thanks for the kudos, but I really can't accept them because I didn't
give any 'plot synopsis' on #4, detailed or otherwise.  That was the one I
couldn't remember.

-Diyan
zimri@hotmail.com

p.s. Anyone who hasn't read Zoomway's "Always Something There To Remind Me"
is missing a great alt story.  I left the really good details out of my
'synopsis': Zoom has already told the story so well, why should I try to
re-tell it?  It and Jeff Brogden's "Then Came You"/"Two Become One" are my
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Yes, I agree with every positive thing that everyone's said about this
fanfic.  It's absolutely, completely, incredibly wonderful and suspenceful
and any other complimentary adjective you can come up with.  Read it right
now.  It's got me gushing.  I never gush.  Okay, I've got to go gush some
more to the author now.  Go read "Life in a Different World" everyone.

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> Excerpt 1:
I've read it, but can't remember the story.
> Excerpt 2:
ooo, I remember this one really well... execpt for the title and author.
Lois- and Clark-in-the-future's oldest son saves them from
Tempus-with-kryptonite, and when he steps into Tempus's window, he finds
himself in the past, where Lois and Clark and married (and living at Clinton
St.) but don't have any children yet.  I love the scene with the pancakes
which Clark doesn't make "CJ size".  Lois and Clark love having him, but
know
that his parents are frantic.  Lois- and Clark-in-the-future find him
because of a date (serial number?) on some toys that Martha and Jonathan had
bought him when he was in their past.  A lovely story.
> Excerpt 3:
One of those 'Soulmates' based stories, but not the IRC RR Soulmate
Chronicles... again, I don't remember the title or author.
> Excerpt 4:
again, I've read it but can't remember the title or author.  I remember Lois
getting saved by Superman and being angry with him (she didn't like him at
all: no one did) but feeling odd about disliking him.  Didn't he work at the
_Star_? and get engaged to Linda?  Lois was sad at the end because she knew
that if they succeded in putting things right, her timeline would cease to
exist.
> Excerpt 5:
I've read it... can't remember which alt story.
> Excerpt 6:
finally! one I can answer: Debby Stark's 'My Journal, Day 11

-Diyan
who is wondering why she's playing when she can only remember one.
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On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:33:17 -0500 Hazel <zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL> wrote:

> For all you poor Americans who just woke up a little while ago, :) you may
> not be aware that this week's new fanfics are already on the archive. Run,
> don't walk, to download "Life in a Different World" by Richard Mobile.

Absolutely. A great story, very suspenseful, and made me ache for
both Clark and Lois in the alternate world. I was glad, though, that
the alt-Clark had some redeeming features - on first acquaintance he
wasn't very likeable!

>
> (whose only objection is the lack of closure at the end, and sure hopes
> that means Richard has a sequel planned)

Please, please, please! If anyone knows, please tell us!

Wendy

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Am I too late to enter this, Hazel?

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> Excerpt 1:
>
> The man was hardly adverse to killing people who hindered his plans, but
he
> was very adverse to carrying around a poopy baby, and CJ had pooped at
just
> the right moment.

Aha!! - 'Time After Time', part 2 of my favourite
continuation-from-Family-Hour, in Season 5! Written by Peace and Barb.

> Excerpt 2:
>
>        "I knew you would come for me.  You said you
> would come if I needed you."
>         Clark smiled and hugged the little boy.  Apparently
> they had met before, but he couldn't quite remember.

My Three Sons by LadeeV - a wonderfully WAFFy and exciting story.
>
>
> Excerpt 3:
>
> "Napping, Herb?"
>
> Lois spun around. Wells opened his eyes and began to sit up.
>
> A man resembling Giles Templar stood in the doorway, holding a pair of
> cocked pistols. His eyes held a familiar mocking gleam that Lois
recognized
> instantly.

I have read this, and I thought it was very clever, but I have no
idea who wrote it or what it's called. What I do know is that Lois
and Clark go back something like 200 years in American history to
foil a plot involving Tempus which would have made the wrong side win
in the Civil War or War of Independence or something (sorry, my US
history is not the best...)

>
>
> Excerpt 4:
>
> "My name is John Doe... I'm a darn nice guy.  Can't you tell?" Tempus
joked.
> "All kidding aside, my name is Tempus. I come from the future."
>
> "Sure you are.  Nigel, call more guards, get this man out of here or we'll
> have a body to dispose of tonight."

This is part 1 of TUFS's Tempus two-parter, a wonderfully imaginative
plot BTW in which Tempus teams up with Luthor to prevent Superman
>from being seen as a hero; Clark ends up working at the Star,
partnered with Linda King, and Lois distrusts Superman. Is this one
'Past and Present Danger'?

> Excerpt 5:
>
> He signalled for his henchman to take the gag out of Lois' mouth and
> continued nibbling on his chips.
>
> When Lois finally had enough moisture back in her mouth to be able
> to talk she asked, "Why are you telling me all this?"

Ah - is this Book 1 of Mandy Crustner's 'When Two Worlds Collide'?

>
> Excerpt 6:
>
>         "Clark, selfless and heroic as he was, told me to get some sleep,
that the
> Planet was on the job, but now I know that he rushed there," he pointed
> (north; he should have pointed south) "to where the wreckage was being
> kept, to gather the proof that would bring the saboteurs to justice!"

Sounds suspiciously like Debby's 'My Journal' but couldn't swear to
it.

Wendy

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Hi Margaret,
>
> Margaret mumbles imprecations at the lack of forbearance in modern
society,
> and slinks off to work on the latest round of edits<g>
>
Yes, you slink off and do that! I'm not apologising for my lck of
forbearance where your Part 4 is concerned ;)

> Now, if anyone could explain Lana's mother's motivation to me, I'd be
> extremely grateful:)

Umm... given that she only appeared very briefly in the ep, you could
probably make it what you wanted. Let's say... to get her
almost-on-the-shelf daughter married off as creditably as she could,
and preferably to the man everyone knew was her steady boyfriend all
the way through her teens and twenties - after all, if Clark dumped
her now, just how would it look in Smallville?

> My fanfic now available at:
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/brignell/
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Not right now it's not! The link doesn't seem to work today.

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Kathy, you gave Crystal's email address as JCWimmer@aol.com, which is
the same address as I got from an email she sent to the nfic list
over the weekend. HOwever, when I tried to email her just now, this
is what I got:

... while talking to air-yb03.mail.aol.com.:
>>> RCPT To:<JCWimmer@aol.com>
<<< 550 JCWimmer IS NOT ACCEPTING MAIL FROM THIS SENDER
550 <JCWimmer@aol.com>... User unknown

Don't know whether the final line or the penultimate one is the
correct reason, though ;)  Looks like she may have changed her
address; since she's moving to the other side of the country soon,
that may be the reason.

Wendy

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>On Sun, 1 Aug 1999 10:33:17 -0500 Hazel <zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL> wrote:
>
>> For all you poor Americans who just woke up a little while ago, :) you
may
>> not be aware that this week's new fanfics are already on the archive.
Run,
>> don't walk, to download "Life in a Different World" by Richard Mobile.

And Wendy added:

>Absolutely. A great story, very suspenseful, and made me ache for
>both Clark and Lois in the alternate world. I was glad, though, that
>the alt-Clark had some redeeming features - on first acquaintance he
>wasn't very likeable!
>
>>
>> (whose only objection is the lack of closure at the end, and sure hopes
>> that means Richard has a sequel planned)
>
>Please, please, please! If anyone knows, please tell us!
>
>Wendy
>

yes, Wendy, you can breathe. :) Richard e-mailed a reply to me last night
and said that yes, he plans on doing a sequel, but it most likely won't get
written for several months. So we'll just have to hold our breaths, and
hope that time in poor alt-Clarks' universe runs *much* slower than ours. :)

Hazel
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On Mon, 2 Aug 1999 07:22:08 -0500 Hazel <zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL> wrote:
>
> yes, Wendy, you can breathe. :) Richard e-mailed a reply to me last night
> and said that yes, he plans on doing a sequel, but it most likely won't
get
> written for several months. So we'll just have to hold our breaths, and
> hope that time in poor alt-Clarks' universe runs *much* slower than ours.
:)

Great!

Hazel, just a thought: I know we're all promising to do better on
feedback, but just in case we don't all manage to follow through, can
you tell Richard that we're all raving about his story on this list?

Wendy
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Yes! Yesyesyesyesyes!!!!! Halleluiah, there is a god!!!!

Sorry. My enthuiasm got away from me momentarily. You see, ever since I read
a Young Riders western fanfic a couple of years back based on Mirror, Mirror
in which the male counterpart of the romantic duo in the show was switched
by an evil double who created havoc with his 'fiancee' I've longed for
someone to do something similar with our heroes. It was a story I knew I'd
never be able to do justice to myself and would never write, but I did wish
someone would do all of the hard work and write it for me to read. As a
theme it had so many intriguing possibilities.

And Richard has come up with just exactly what I've been wishing for all
this time. Wonderful stuff! The creation of the alternative Clark is
inspired and his interaction with our Lois fully in tune with her character.
Likewise, the subtle but darkly disturbing differences in the alternate
world and the altLois are thoughtfully worked. I can believe utterly that is
is our Lois - or at least how our Lois would have turned out growing up in
that world. Clark's confusion and despair is artfully told. AltClark too is
manifestly a rounded and 3D character, entirely molded by his environment.

And the touches of of sly humour are inspired.

"Well, but, well," Lois stuttered.  "But ... well, anyway-you
 *leered* at her-and that's something people *will* notice!  Clark
 *never* leers!"

 "Not while *you're* watching, anyway," Clark mumbled.

 Lois gasped at the implication.  "Not *ever*!" she said emphatically.
 "*He* knows how to act like a gentleman!"

and

"*EMERGENCIES*!!" Lois's voice squeaked.  "You don't mean-you didn't--"

 "Yes," said Superman, nodding affably at her.  "Superman-type
 emergencies.  People were crying for help."

 "So ...?" screeched Lois.  "Did you help ...?"

 "No, Lois," said Superman in disgust.  "I killed them and threw
 their bodies in the river.  What do you think I did?"

ROTF!

And the reunion scene in Centennial Park was too waffy for words.

I'll be eagerly hoping that in that sequel he's working on Richard shows us
what happens to AltClark and his world and the changes wrought in both by
AltClark's brief glimpse into a better universe.

Can't wait.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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"The Right Hon was a tubby little chap who looked as though he had been
poured into his clothes and had forgotten to say "When!"  -- PG Wodehouse,
Very Good, Jeeves.

"We're living in an age where you have to call a chick and ask her if she'll
wear a dress tonight. And they say, "You're weird."  --- Tim Rose.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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"The Right Hon was a tubby little chap who looked as though he had been
poured into his clothes and had forgotten to say "When!"  -- PG Wodehouse,
Very Good, Jeeves.

"We're living in an age where you have to call a chick and ask her if she'll
wear a dress tonight. And they say, "You're weird."  --- Tim Rose.
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And without further ado, here are the answers to my quiz.

#1 Blue Suede Boots by Travis Covert - part of his Fabulously Fun and
Fantastic Fifth Season

Url: http://5ss.simplenet.com/fffs/

This is a series with a definite twist - whams abound, and yet it is a
lot of fun too. I highly recommend these stories.

#2 This Drake is No Sitting Duck  by Leanne Shawler

Url: http://www/znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html

A very interesting treatment of Mayson Drake

#3 Gemini by Annemarie Pace
Url: http://members.aol.com/annepace/index.htm

Unusual story with a twist.

#4. Little Man, Super by Sandy McDermin
Url: http://users.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/

A beautifully written next generation story that has been highly
praised on the list, and deserved every good word ever written or
spoken about it!

#5 Where Oh Where do Supes' Clothes Go? by Erin Klingler
Url: http://www.ida.net/users/davek/

A great lighthearted romp filled with lots of humour.

I have given the URL's for the sites rather than for the individual
stories as all the sites have more to offer than just these stories.
Have fun browsing!

Okay, now on to who guessed what -

Linda Mason guessed #4 for 1 point
Carol Malo guessed #2 for 1 point
Debra G. and Wendy Richards both guessed #5 for a point each.
Hazel gets 1/2 point for guessing the right series for #1 and ...

Erin Klingler gets an appointment for a Cat scan as she failed to
recognise her own story!  Hey Erin, you can keep Zoom company in the
waiting room (g).

So, no clear winner but a lot of fun (I hope).  There's a lot of talent
out there that's not in the archive.  Enjoy!

Irene

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No, it's not Star Trek! Since we've moved on to themed quizzes, I
thought I'd present one based on Lois and Clark's children or
descendants.

Rules as before: author and title, please, and include a spoiler
space. By the way, I've never said you can't use the Archive or other
websites as a check, so there ;)

Have fun!

Wendy

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Extract 1:
        "Ellie, that's great!" Clark hugged the energetic child. "I
have to hurry now to get ready to go out with your parents, but how
about we talk about it on Sunday when you come over to watch the
Midwest State-Indiana game? C.J.'s going to be in the starting
line-up. Isn't that great?"
        Ellie beamed and said, "Yes! OK." At the same time, Lois
exclaimed, "He is? But, the coach has been keeping him on the bench.
I mean, he is a freshman . . ."
        "Sorry, honey, in all the excitement I forgot to tell you. We
got an e-mail from C.J. I printed it out for you, it's around here .
. . somewhere." Clark whipped his head around, automatically counting
children's noses while he looked for the errant e-mail. He came up one
nose short, then quickly stepped to the back door, opened it, and
called out, "Sam! Son, dinner's ready!"
        Ellen interrupted, "Lois. Clark. I can take it from here. You
two go get ready, you don't have much more time! Get moving, now."
        "Here's the e-mail, Mom." M.E. said, as she took the paper
>from the refrigerator magnet, where it had been hidden in plain
sight. "C.J. says to tell you he promises not to hurt the Indiana
players too much. He's going to be a starting defensive lineman."
M.E. grinned at C.J.'s family joke. As the two oldest and the two
with the most developed superpowers so far, the brother and sister
were extremely close. It had almost broken M.E.'s heart when her
brother had left for college, but she was compensating nicely by
seeing Jason, the current love of her life.
        "Hmmm. He says here to give his love to Grandma," a nod to
her mom, ". . .and to say 'Hi' to the Wilson side of the family.
'Hi,' Wilsons!" Lois smiled at Bobby and Ellie. "And that his history
professor is really an old poop. And about the game on Sunday. And
kisses to his sisters and a punch in the arm to Sam."
        "Dad already delivered the punch, Mom, you don't have to!"
Sam offered from the sink as he washed his hands for dinner.

Extract 2:
        Claire smiled and extended her hand.  Laney crossed the room
and took it.  They perched side-by-side on the windowsill for a
moment, drinking in fragrant June night air.  *One, two, three,*
Claire counted.  In unison, they jumped, and Laney felt the crackle
of her sister's strength as they flew into the night.  It was a
little scary, flying with her only link to her sister their clasped
hands, held up by Claire's aura as if she could fly on her own.  The
times she'd flown with her father, he'd carried her in his arms, but
she was so much bigger and taller than Claire that being carried by
her struck them both as absurd and awkward.
        Claire had only been flying for about six months.  She and
Marty had developed superpowers at a younger age than their father
had, though they weren't quite sure why.  Maybe girls developed such
powers earlier, just as human girls usually started puberty earlier,
or maybe it was simply having their father around to show them what
they were capable of.  In any case, Claire was new enough to flight
that Dad still placed certain restrictions on her: she was supposed
to stay within the eastern half of the country, and she wasn't
supposed to carry passengers.  While Claire and Laney were on the
whole more obedient than the average teenager, both considered the
flight limits insupportable.  There was a whole world out there to be
explored, most of its more interesting parts outside of the eastern
U.S., and carrying Laney didn't tire Claire any more than a good
healthy workout would tire a human.
        Still, Laney wondered if this little adventure was really such
a good idea.  They'd never snuck out in the middle of the night
before, and the farthest they'd gone was Costa Rica.  Was it really
such a good idea to go all the way to the opposite side of the world,
to Papua New Guinea?  Claire had promised she'd found the most
beautiful spot ever, unspoiled mountain rain forest, when they'd
thought the trip through that morning, but was it worth the risks?
She hoped the long flight with her added weight wouldn't tire her
sister out.  If carrying her normal distances was the same to her
sister as playing a basketball game would be to her, would this be
like playing nonstop all afternoon?  Most of all, she worried that an
emergency would awaken Dad in their absence.  He routinely counted his
household's heartbeats when returning from night rescue work, and if
two were missing, would he ever be mad!  She frowned, as she often
did, over the trials of having such a father.  The she noticed how
much clearer and more abundant the stars appeared from only a few
thousand feet above the ground, and her worries were forgotten in her
delight in the galactic beauty.

Extract 3:
        CJ looked carefully, left, right, and left again, before
crossing the small street. There were no cars to be seen or heard
nearby, so he figured he was pretty safe. His mom hated him to leave
the townhouse without permission, but things felt different here, and
she hadn't *told* him he had to stay at home.... He heard a small
voice, and it sounded as if it were crying, so he needed to find out
what was wrong. Approaching the house across the street, a smaller
and older version of their new house, CJ saw a little girl sitting
next to the steps leading to the porch.
        "What's wrong?" CJ asked her.
        "You're not a girl," the child sobbed softly.
        "That's not something to cry about."
        "My mama said that a girl might move into your house. But
you're not a girl. Now I'll never have anyone to play with."
        "You can play with me," he assured her. "I'm CJ. What's your
name?"
        "I'm Katie. Well, my mama calls me Kathryn, but at school
everyone calls me Katie."
        "What school do you go to?"
        "I'm in kindergarten."
        "I get to start kindergarten on Monday. My mom says I'll like
it better than daycare, but I don't think so."
        "It's okay. At least there's someone to play with. There's no
kids on this street, just old people. My mama says that's why it's so
quiet, but I think it's just boring."
        "Maybe we could be friends."

Extract 4:
        Jon looked up; the children had been told what had happened.
"Then maybe the world finds out who we really are, Mom. Would that
really be so bad?"
        "Of course it would!" Lois protested. "Anyone could get at
us... well, I know you're all invulnerable to Kryptonite now, but
wait until you start dating, Jon - anyone you care about who isn't
invulnerable could be hurt."
        "Your mother's right, Jon," Clark said heavily. "And talking
about dating, there is something else. It may not sound important to
either you or Katy now, but once you are dating, getting serious
about someone, I'm sure you'll want to know that it's *you* they care
about, not the person in the costume or the super-powers." Lois
glanced at her husband; was he still obsessing about the fact that
she had hero-worshipped Superman for over a year before paying him,
Clark, any attention?
        "Oh, Dad, don't bring all that up again!" Katy protested. "I
could never understand why you were so against Mom loving you as
Superman - you *are* Superman! You didn't want her to love Superman
instead of Clark Kent, but surely you didn't want her to love Clark
Kent without loving Superman? How could you insist that she had to
love only the 'right' part of you?"
        Clark stared at his daughter: seventeen years old, and yet
she had taken the dilemma he had believed himself to be in over
twenty years before and stripped it to expose it as the fallacy it
was. Of *course* he had wanted Lois to love Superman as well! And of
course he should have been honest with her much earlier.
        He filed that little revelation away to deal with later, and
turned to his children. "All the same, your mother and I would prefer
it all to remain a secret for the time being."
        "Of course!" Katy responded vigorously. "Jon, you *know* Mom
isn't invulnerable!" Jon caught his mother's eyes; the brown pools
meeting hers apologetically reminded Lois so much of Clark on the
rare occasions when he had been inadvertently thoughtless.
         "I can look after myself," Lois pointed out. Three pairs of
brown eyes fixed her with accusing stares.
        "Sure, Mom!" Jon laughed. "What about when I had to rescue
you from that goon with the gun last year?"
        "Or when I stopped the car from crushing your foot because
*some idiot* had forgotten to put the handbrake on?" Katy supplied,
glaring at her brother.
        "Or... so many occasions... when I saved you from falling off
a building, hanging from a flagpole, being blown up by a bomb, being
shot, after being pushed out of an airplane... I could go on?"
Clark's laughing eyes met Lois's, and she subsided into giggles.

Extract 5:
        "How many women have you been with since you've come here?"
She asked suddenly, her eyes almost black and burning.  The smile
disappeared off his face, and his eyes narrowed.
        "What do you mean?" He asked quietly, warningly.
        "You know exactly what I mean."  She stared up at him, her
gaze unwavering.  He was silent, his eyes dark, looking at her.
Looking back up at him, she had the sudden impression that she was
acting out of place and she felt like a disobedient, rebellious
teenager.  She pushed the feeling away quickly.  He was the one who
had wronged her.
        "How many other innocent children are there out in this world
who are like me and that little boy that I read about in the Planet?"
she said through her teeth.
         "What?"
         "You heard me!"
"What little boy?"  He asked, frowning.
         "Don't act like you don't know anything about us!  I bet
there are many of us!  Children born as freaks because you had your
passionate fling with any woman who took your fancy!  You didn't
care!  Now every one of us is left to be unwanted children with
powers that we don't even understand!  We're ignored, hated, tossed
around from family to family like just another unwanted animal!"
Anna suddenly exploded from off the roof and dove into him. He
stumbled backward, but didn't fall down.  She pounded on his chest
with her fists.
         "What did you do to that poor little boy!?"  Tears streamed
down her cheeks.  "You hurt him!  You crippled him!  Then you just
left him and the mother to suffer!  I hate you!  Hate you!  What you
did to us!  You don't even care!"  She screamed up at him through her
tears, her fists still pounding on him. He steadied himself and put
his arms around her, pulling her closer to him.  Her fists slowed
down...stopped.  She was crying so hard that she couldn't see through
her tears.  His hand moved up and cradled her head against his chest.
She cried, exhausted.  And she didn't understand what was he was
doing.  Why was he holding her?  He didn't care about her!  He had
left her to be tossed around by people who didn't care!  Why was he
holding her?  Why...?  Her breath started coming in little hiccups,
she couldn't see...his hand was rubbing her back, softly.  She leaned
the side of her head against him, tears still running down her face.

Extract 6:
        Catie's mother looked over at her daughter's disgusted face.
"Cate, you know that we don't think that. Josh, Lara, Dad, and I
don't care if you ever use your powers. You don't have to prove
anything."
        "Yea, *sure* Lara and Josh don't care. Don't tell me you
haven't heard them -- 'It's easy, Catie, just get Grandma to sew you
a costume and you're Metropolis's newest volunteer police officer,'"
Catie said sarcastically, putting down the potato peeler and walking
into the family room.
         Catie knew that she didn't want to use her powers for
anything bad, but right now she wasn't sure she wanted to use them at
all. This wasn't a rash decision on her part -- she had watched the
lives of her father, sister, and brother carefully. Catie didn't want
to live like they did -- constantly running off, having to lie, and
never getting a rest.

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I see that Wendy has posted a "Next Generations" quiz. :) These
theme-specific quizzes are really a lot of fun! A *lot* of people submitted
answers to this one, and it's been a while, so I'm posting the replies.
(Not that I have to, as Nan already answered them all! <g>) Spoiler space
provided for anyone who still wants to play.

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Story 1: "Time After Time," by Peace, from S5 -- wrapping up the S4
cliff-hanger!

Story 2: "My Three Sons," by Ladee V, in which Lois and Clark meet their
future son and discover that the future Clark is good at French-braiding
hair. :)

Story 3: "Star Spangled Superman," by the IRC RR group. And sorry, Debra,
but the excerpt is mostly Zoomway's. :) Only the first few lines belong to
Misha. No alt-universes here: Tempus goes back in time to meddle with
history, and Lois and Clark are dragged into it by dear Herb.

Story 4: "The Odd Couple," by Craig Byrne and Alison Word, from TUFS. "Odd"
is right, as this first part of a 2-parter (Past and Present Danger is the
2nd) teams up Lex and Tempus and turns LnC history on its head!

Story 5: "Then Came You: Promise," by Margaret Brignell. Tempus, is his
efforts to meddle with the alt-universe, lures Lois to the Congo to ensure
that she never meets Clark. (That sums up the excerpt, not the story!)

Story 6: "My Journal, Day 11," by Debby Stark. A *very* intriguing universe
that quite frankly defies description. Go read it yourself. :)

Scores:

Nan is the CLEAR winner, listing all six authors and titles (and even
correcting her typos!). Way to go, Nan! Herb is looking for an assistant
and you clearly qualify, so if you'll just make your way into the time
machine...

Alicia got 4 authors and titles, as well as naming the title (but not the
author) for #4.

Jessi gets four points, plus an honorable mention for actually cutting and
pasting ALL the authors' names from the round robin! ;)

Wendy, who clearly doesn't trust herself, :) gets two clear points. Add
another three-quarters of a point for recognizing #4 but naming it for the
second part of the two parter. We'll also give you another point, despite
your waffling (not to be confused with waffs <g>), for #6, as well as
partial credit for describing the plot of "Star Spangled Superman." Hmm,
that comes out to just under four points, I think.

Debra gets 2 points for knowing #1 and #3.

Genevieve only claimed #6, but seems to have known three of the others.
Hey, Genevieve, that's what the spoiler space is for! No reason to ruin
your score by reading the other posts first...

Diyan only got #6, but she gets honorary mention for two detailed plot
synopses. :)

Alexis got one point for knowing #1.

Laurie gets one point for recognizing #6.

How nice to see so many responses! With Wendy's new quiz just out, I'll
hold off for a bit now, but my next quiz will be Lex stories. :) Stay tuned
for later this week...

Hazel
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Yvonne,  I think I'll watch this time.  I do not know if I could stay inside
a
character.
merry
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Yvonne Connell wrote:

> Yvonne and Tanya cordially invite you to join us in our roleplaying
> fanfiction.  The idea of this 'game' is that participants take on the role
> of a character in the plot and post emails to each other to advance the
> plot.  The plot gets a starting point in the form of an incident reported
> in the Metropolis Star, but thereafter, the direction the story takes is
> entirely up to the participants.
>
> We think this is going to be great fun, but to make it work, we need
plenty
> of volunteers to take on the characters' roles, so even if you've never
> written a word of fanfic in your life before, consider this your chance to
> dip a toe into the waters of creative writing.
>
> There's quite a lot of information we need to give you, so please bear
with
> us if this email seems over-long :)
>
> Regards,
> Yvonne and Tanya
> (yconnell@ukf.net/tanya_walsh@hotmail.com)
>
> ****************************************
> Metropolis Star, Monday, Courtney Hart
> ____________________________________________________________________
>
> SHOCK AS PLANET EXPLODES!!!!
>
> Two staff members were killed and dozens injured when an explosion tore
> through the Metropolis branch of "The Daily Planet" Sunday afternoon.  A
> chemical bomb planted in the basement of the building wreaked havoc on the
> structure - recently rebuilt after a similar occurrence less than three
> years ago.   This tragic incident has rendered the Planet building
> completely useless for newspaper production.
>
> Police have no clues as to the identity of the bomber as yet. The Daily
> Planet has an abundance of enemies, which means that the perpetrator may
> literally be one of thousands of people. According to a reliable source,
> evidence found at the scene included a pair of trousers.
>
> Jack Fowler, 37, and Kirsty Dunning, 29, both business reporters,  were
> killed when a brick stairwell collapsed over their heads.  Sixty-seven
> other staff members were admitted to hospital with injuries ranging from
> shock to internal bleeding, but thanks to quick action from Superman and
> other brave emergency personnel many fatalities were averted.
>
> Is this the end for the Daily Planet?  When an explosion masterminded by
> convicted felon and ex-entrepreneur, Lex Luthor, destroyed the building
> years ago it was almost impossible to obtain funding to rebuild. Sources
> close to the owner, James Carlton, have speculated that he will be unable
> to secure finance for a second rebuild. When The Star asked Perry White,
> editor of the Planet, for comment he responded with, "The show will go on.
> The Planet and what it stands for has been around for over 40 years and we
> are not going to let an explosion destroy that. The people behind the
> Planet are more important than a few bricks and mortar, and they will not
> let these
> criminals win.' White declined to answer any further questions.
>
> We asked award-winning and controversial journalist Lois Lane, for her
> thoughts on the issue, but received no comment from either her or her
> partner and spouse, Clark Kent.  Reporters and editors will be working
from
> home using sophisticated technology to write and edit their stories until
> new premises can be obtained.
> ____________________________________________________________________
>
> For more great reading look inside -
>
> Y2K - The truth about the millennium
> Aliens ate my baby!
>
> ***************************************************
>
> To join the 'game', please:
> --------------------------
> Send an email to Yvonne (yconnell@ukf.net), stating:
>    a. Which 3 characters you would most like to play, in descending order
> of preference (ie the one you want most goes first)
>    b. Which 3 characters you would least like to play, in descending order
> of preference (ie the one you want least goes first)
>    c. [optional]  A description of one new character you'd like to play
> (who they are, a brief history, and some idea of what contribution the
> character might make to the plot)
>    d. Cast your vote for a title for this story.  Your choices are:
> Metropolis; Metropolitan; Once Upon A Time In Metropolis; The Wrong
> Trousers; The Metropolis Story
>
> Initially, character assignments will be done by a 3rd party not taking
> part in the game.
>
> Here's a list of characters for you to consider:
>
> Characters we can't do without:
> -------------------------------
> Perry, Jimmy, Lois, Clark
>
> Characters we'd like:
> ---------------------
> Cat, Martha, Jonathan, Lex Luthor, Inspector Henderson
>
> Miscellaneous others:
> ---------------------
> Ellen, Sam, Bobby Bigmouth, Jimmy's Dad, Lucy, Jack, Bobby Bigmouth,
> Scardino, Tempus, HG Wells
> anyone else you fancy!
>
> Playing the game
> ----------------
> If you are selected to play a major character, be prepared for a
reasonable
> level of commitment.  You'll be holding the story up for everyone else if
> you can't respond to regular emails within a day or two.  If you think
this
> is too onerous a commitment, you can, of course, share the role with
> someone else - as long as the two of you are consistent!
>
> When (or if) the game gets well-established, then one of the arbitrator's
> (see below) jobs will be to make sure it doesn't run on indefinitely,
> either by pushing the plot along or announcing a time limit.
>
> Background Detail
> -----------------
> The Daily Planet has been bombed, and as a result, all editorial staff are
> having to work from home until repairs are carried out and the building
> declared safe again.  Printing operations have been contracted out to the
> same company who print the Metropolis Star for the duration. Temporary
> premises have been hired for other departments (marketing, page make-up,
> circulation etc), but these are not big enough to accommodate the large
> editorial team, who as stated previously, are working from home and
sending
> in copy via email.  Perry is looking into the possibility of creating a
> couple of
> meeting rooms at the temporary premises, so that at least editorial staff
> can meet up once in a while - but nothing is certain yet.
>
> Naturally, the big question on everyone's mind is - who bombed the Planet
> and why?  This will form the basis of our investigation.
>
> The time period for this scenario is sometime during the fifth season.
That
> is, Lois and Clark are married and living in the house on Hyperion Avenue.
> Perry is separated from Alice, and Jimmy is still seeking the love of his
> life.  Cat has recently been re-employed by the Planet as the paper's
> society columnist, and Lex Luthor has somehow returned from the dead yet
> again.
>
> The Rules
> ---------
> (1) No killing off main characters
> (2) No extra-marital affairs for Lois or Clark
> (3) The guidelines given in the list FAQ apply
> (4) Do unto others as you would wish to be done unto - eg don't knock
> someone else out of the action unless you have their consent first.  On
the
> other hand, players should be prepared for the unexpected - within reason!
>
> How To Play
> -----------
> (1) All plot-advancement must be done by emails submitted to the list
> (LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU).
> (2) Private discussion between characters is permitted, but see (1)
> (3) Each email must refer to at least one clue or item from a previous
> email, although not necessarily the most recent one.
> (4) Email subject format is [Fanfic Title]: Clark to Perry
> (5) Players can change the 'from' address in their email program to that
of
> their characters' (eg ClarkKent@DailyPlanet.com) - if they want to.
> (6) Emails may include extracts of conversations between characters
> (especially Lois and Clark!), or newspaper articles
> (7) Depending on how this takes off, meetings may take place occasionally
> on IRC - if Perry can get the rooms sorted out, of course ;)
>
> Characters fall into 3 categories:
> ----------------------------------
> 1 Major (Perry, Clark/Superman, Lois, Cat, Jimmy)
> -------
> These guys start the story off.  Perry is organising everybody, L&C are
> already investigating and getting Jimmy to research things for them, and
> Cat is... just Cat.  She might be supplying background information on a
> corrupt councillor or two, for example.
>
> 2 Wildcards (Scardino, Inspector Henderson, Jimmy's Dad, Lex)
> -----------
> These characters may have to wait a bit until some plot develops, but then
> they can jump in with information/comments as they like
>
> 3 Minor (Martha, Jonathan, Lucy, Ellen, Sam)
> ----------
> These characters just butt in when ever they feel like it :)  For
> example, Martha emails Lois with a failsafe recipe for brownies.  They can
> also take part in the plot, if and when they think the time is right
>
> Lois & Clark
> ------------
> These two characters will have to work together, and may discuss things
> privately, as long as they follow the rule that plot advancement is done
> via the list.  They can send messages to the list independently (eg Clark
> to Perry) or together (eg L&C to Perry).  When they send in messages, it
> would be nice if they could occasionally relate part or all of the
> conversations they've had together.  Debby, in her 'My Journal' story, is
a
> good example to follow in this regard.
>
> In addition, there will be a couple of background roles:
>
> The Arbitrator
> -----------------
> Keeps a watchful eye over the proceedings and intervenes if the plot is
> disintegrating beyond repair. They may do this by (privately) asking a
> player to say or do something which brings the story back on track, or by
> announcing an external influence (eg the alien spaceship which is about to
> land and carry all the characters off to the planet Zod explodes and is
> never heard of again ;))
>
> Yvonne will be assuming the role of Arbitrator initially.
>
> The Administrator
> ----------------
> Maintains the cast list - including finding replacements for people who
> leave, and finding volunteers for new characters as needed.
>
> Tanya will be the Administrator.
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1. If I Had It To Do All Over Again - LadyBiker
2. Aliens and Strangers - Susan Stone
3. Full Circle - Crystal Wimmer
4. A Love So Long In The Making - Wendy Richards
5.  Anna - Rachel Smith

I'm absolutely astounded as to how many of these I knew instantly -
considering I maintain that new gen/kiddie fic isn't my first love. <G> But
most of these are among some of my (many) exceptions to the rule.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
labrat@ukf.net

"The Right Hon was a tubby little chap who looked as though he had been
poured into his clothes and had forgotten to say "When!"  -- PG Wodehouse,
Very Good, Jeeves.

"We're living in an age where you have to call a chick and ask her if she'll
wear a dress tonight. And they say, "You're weird."  --- Tim Rose.

>
>Extract 4:
>        Jon looked up; the children had been told what had happened.
>"Then maybe the world finds out who we really are, Mom. Would that
>really be so bad?"
>        "Of course it would!" Lois protested. "Anyone could get at
>us... well, I know you're all invulnerable to Kryptonite now, but
>wait until you start dating, Jon - anyone you care about who isn't
>invulnerable could be hurt."
>        "Your mother's right, Jon," Clark said heavily. "And talking
>about dating, there is something else. It may not sound important to
>either you or Katy now, but once you are dating, getting serious
>about someone, I'm sure you'll want to know that it's *you* they care
>about, not the person in the costume or the super-powers." Lois
>glanced at her husband; was he still obsessing about the fact that
>she had hero-worshipped Superman for over a year before paying him,
>Clark, any attention?
>        "Oh, Dad, don't bring all that up again!" Katy protested. "I
>could never understand why you were so against Mom loving you as
>Superman - you *are* Superman! You didn't want her to love Superman
>instead of Clark Kent, but surely you didn't want her to love Clark
>Kent without loving Superman? How could you insist that she had to
>love only the 'right' part of you?"
>        Clark stared at his daughter: seventeen years old, and yet
>she had taken the dilemma he had believed himself to be in over
>twenty years before and stripped it to expose it as the fallacy it
>was. Of *course* he had wanted Lois to love Superman as well! And of
>course he should have been honest with her much earlier.
>        He filed that little revelation away to deal with later, and
>turned to his children. "All the same, your mother and I would prefer
>it all to remain a secret for the time being."
>        "Of course!" Katy responded vigorously. "Jon, you *know* Mom
>isn't invulnerable!" Jon caught his mother's eyes; the brown pools
>meeting hers apologetically reminded Lois so much of Clark on the
>rare occasions when he had been inadvertently thoughtless.
>         "I can look after myself," Lois pointed out. Three pairs of
>brown eyes fixed her with accusing stares.
>        "Sure, Mom!" Jon laughed. "What about when I had to rescue
>you from that goon with the gun last year?"
>        "Or when I stopped the car from crushing your foot because
>*some idiot* had forgotten to put the handbrake on?" Katy supplied,
>glaring at her brother.
>        "Or... so many occasions... when I saved you from falling off
>a building, hanging from a flagpole, being blown up by a bomb, being
>shot, after being pushed out of an airplane... I could go on?"
>Clark's laughing eyes met Lois's, and she subsided into giggles.
>
>
>Extract 5:
>        "How many women have you been with since you've come here?"
>She asked suddenly, her eyes almost black and burning.  The smile
>disappeared off his face, and his eyes narrowed.
>        "What do you mean?" He asked quietly, warningly.
>        "You know exactly what I mean."  She stared up at him, her
>gaze unwavering.  He was silent, his eyes dark, looking at her.
>Looking back up at him, she had the sudden impression that she was
>acting out of place and she felt like a disobedient, rebellious
>teenager.  She pushed the feeling away quickly.  He was the one who
>had wronged her.
>        "How many other innocent children are there out in this world
>who are like me and that little boy that I read about in the Planet?"
>she said through her teeth.
>         "What?"
>         "You heard me!"
>"What little boy?"  He asked, frowning.
>         "Don't act like you don't know anything about us!  I bet
>there are many of us!  Children born as freaks because you had your
>passionate fling with any woman who took your fancy!  You didn't
>care!  Now every one of us is left to be unwanted children with
>powers that we don't even understand!  We're ignored, hated, tossed
>around from family to family like just another unwanted animal!"
>Anna suddenly exploded from off the roof and dove into him. He
>stumbled backward, but didn't fall down.  She pounded on his chest
>with her fists.
>         "What did you do to that poor little boy!?"  Tears streamed
>down her cheeks.  "You hurt him!  You crippled him!  Then you just
>left him and the mother to suffer!  I hate you!  Hate you!  What you
>did to us!  You don't even care!"  She screamed up at him through her
>tears, her fists still pounding on him. He steadied himself and put
>his arms around her, pulling her closer to him.  Her fists slowed
>down...stopped.  She was crying so hard that she couldn't see through
>her tears.  His hand moved up and cradled her head against his chest.
>She cried, exhausted.  And she didn't understand what was he was
>doing.  Why was he holding her?  He didn't care about her!  He had
>left her to be tossed around by people who didn't care!  Why was he
>holding her?  Why...?  Her breath started coming in little hiccups,
>she couldn't see...his hand was rubbing her back, softly.  She leaned
>the side of her head against him, tears still running down her face.
>
>
>Extract 6:
>        Catie's mother looked over at her daughter's disgusted face.
>"Cate, you know that we don't think that. Josh, Lara, Dad, and I
>don't care if you ever use your powers. You don't have to prove
>anything."
>        "Yea, *sure* Lara and Josh don't care. Don't tell me you
>haven't heard them -- 'It's easy, Catie, just get Grandma to sew you
>a costume and you're Metropolis's newest volunteer police officer,'"
>Catie said sarcastically, putting down the potato peeler and walking
>into the family room.
>         Catie knew that she didn't want to use her powers for
>anything bad, but right now she wasn't sure she wanted to use them at
>all. This wasn't a rash decision on her part -- she had watched the
>lives of her father, sister, and brother carefully. Catie didn't want
>to live like they did -- constantly running off, having to lie, and
>never getting a rest.
>
>----------------------
>Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
>
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What, LabRat, you mean you *don't* know No. 6?  Shame on you!!

Wendy

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Wendy Richards
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3) 'Anna' by Rachel Smith
5) 'Full Circle' by Crystal Wimmer

-Diyan
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Irene wrote:

> Erin Klingler gets an appointment for a Cat scan as she failed to
> recognise her own story!  Hey Erin, you can keep Zoom company in the
> waiting room (g).

ROTFL!!!  Well, if it took you this long to realize that I need a Cat scan,
it's taken you longer than everyone else I know. <vbg>  (And Kathy, don't
you say a *word*! <g>)

And Zoom...I'm glad to have company.  I'll meet you there in 20 minutes.  ;)

Erin  :)
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At 11:02 AM 8/2/1999 -0500, Hazel wrote:
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>Story 5: "Then Came You: Promise," by Margaret Brignell.

That's "Only You:  Promise"<g>

Of course at this point, I'd be surprised if *anyone* remembered the title;)

Margaret

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Date:         Mon, 2 Aug 1999 14:34:55 -0500
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Peggy wrote:

>Great story, Mandy!

Thanks so much, Peggy! ;)

> I don't want to spoil it for anyone, so I'll just say
>that it came on like gangbusters, and the suspense never let up until the
>funny, WAFF-y ending!

<blush>  That's what I was going for.  A lot of suspense building up to a
wonderful reunion.  I'm glad you liked it :)

>Good work--I can hardly wait for Part 3!

I've started on Book 3 and will be doing some episode research for it later
tonight, so, maybe it'll be finished before the millennium.

Thanks for taking the time to read it and for writing! :)

>Peggy  :-)
>gremlino@pathway.net

Mandy :)
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man, i know i have read every one of these, but i can't place any of them
:-(

Darn it Alicia loses :-(
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In a message dated 8/1/99 10:48:54 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Aerm1@aol.com
writes:

<<
 In a message dated 7/29/99 10:26:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Debby@SWCP.COM
 writes:

 <<
  Let's see: my stupid job pays about $11.50 an hour... but I do have some
  savings... ;) >> >>

You realize of course Debbie if we collect the money, we'll lock you in a
closet with a single light and a computer and a slot to send food and water
in at regular intervals until you've finished Dawning XXX, at least one
sequel to My Journal ( better not be as good as the original one or your
incarceration is liable to continue through several more sequels) and gee, I
don't know what else, but rest assured we'll wring every concievable story
out of that wonderfully, fertile brain of yours.

Charlotte
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Wendy wrote:

>What, LabRat, you mean you *don't* know No. 6?  Shame on you!!
>
Huh? What? There's a no. *6*?

LabRat feverishly hunts through her deleted folder as we speak. How'd that
happen?

Aha! So there is!

6.  Emptiness in Harmony - Christy Kubit. <g>

LabRat :)  (almost having a coronory trying to cancel send after realising
she missed out the spoiler space. Phew!)
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Hi everyone!

I just had to post and share.  :)  I just finished reading Karen Ward's
newly uploaded story "Oh, Mann!" on the fanfic archive, and I have to say
that I laughed myself *sick*!!  I highly recommend this story to anyone
searching for a new fic to read.

Nicely done, Karen!  And keep up the good work!

Erin  :)
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In a message dated 8/2/99 1:33:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
brignell@SYMPATICO.CA writes:

<< That's "Only You:  Promise"<g>

 Of course at this point, I'd be surprised if *anyone* remembered the
title;)
  >>

Of course we do Margaret, in fact, I am re-reading the series right now!
Kate
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At 07:04 PM 8/2/1999 -0400, Kate wrote:
>In a message dated 8/2/99 1:33:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>brignell@SYMPATICO.CA writes:
><< That's "Only You:  Promise"<g>
> Of course at this point, I'd be surprised if *anyone* remembered the
title;)
>  >>
>Of course we do Margaret, in fact, I am re-reading the series right now!

Thank you:)

Now if I could only get my butt in gear and *finish* "Reality" we'd *all*
be happy<g>

Margaret

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At 06:47 PM 08/01/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 7/29/99 10:26:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Debby@SWCP.COM
>writes:
>
><<
> Let's see: my stupid job pays about $11.50 an hour... but I do have some
> savings... ;) >>
>
>
>Hmmm.... I go back to work in 2 weeks.  I could probably fund an hour or
two
>if it helps.  <g>
>
>Ann

What??? And deprive me of the opportunity to whine??? ;)

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
I'd like some cheese
with my whine...
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In a message dated 08/02/1999 4:33:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
brignell@SYMPATICO.CA writes:

<< That's "Only You:  Promise"<g>

 Of course at this point, I'd be surprised if *anyone* remembered the
title;)
>>

Well, Margaret, all people seem to remember is that they want more of it!!

--Laurie ;)
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A group of us are contemplating putting on another LAFF in August of 2000,
tentatively for August 2nd through August 6th or 7th, but before we do any
concrete planning, we would like to know if there is sufficient interest.
This would be a Lois and Clark celebration for the fans and not for any
particular cast member, but we would try to get guests from the show. Those
of you who have attended previous LAFFs probably remember how much fun we
had
meeting fellow folcs. I was at the 1997 LAFF and even though the show had
been cancelled and we didn't get to go to the set, we had a great time. We
would also like suggestions for what kinds of activities people would be
interested in.

I will be posting this on Zoomway's mb at <A
HREF="http://zoomway.com/boards/">Lois & Clark Message Boards - powered by
the Ultimate Bulletin Board</A>  so replies can be posted there or to me at
cp13607@aol.com.

Chris P.
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Oops. I forgot to mention it would be held in Los Angeles. Sorry about that.

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In a message dated 8/2/99 9:05:09 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL writes:

<< Alexis got one point for knowing #1. >>

YAY!  My first point!  Even if i only get one point during this whole
thing..
i am so proud of myself! <G> LOL!

Alexis ;-.)

"Why upstairs?" (Clark)
"Guess?" (Lois)
(Toy Story, 1997)
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well, instead of trying to find the stories I wasn't sure about for this
quiz, I decided to (finally) read "Family Ties".  I hadn't even realized
that Christy "optical delusion consciousness" "96 and I planted poppies" was
the same as Christy Kubit, author of "AKA Daddy" and "Small Steps", which I
discovered through one of these quized. So now I'm reading "Emptiness in
Harmony" before starting on "Family Ties", and I discovered that extract #6
is Christy's "EiH".
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Apologies to anyone waiting for a reply from me.  My service provider, UK
Fantastic, have screwed up my mail so that I can't receive anything, only
send.  So far, their technical support has NOT been good (although
expensive).

Yvonne
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Yvonne wrote:

>Apologies to anyone waiting for a reply from me.  My service provider, UK
>Fantastic, have screwed up my mail so that I can't receive anything, only
>send.  So far, their technical support has NOT been good (although
>expensive).
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Yikes, Yvonne, not good news. Buy this week's ComputerActive. <g> They list
160 current freeserve providers. I'm thinking of downloading and installing
a few myself as a backup to UKF. Hope you get sorted out soon. Missing ya in
my mailbox. <g>

LabRat :)
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From:         Gillian B Tanz <aliendove@JUNO.COM>
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Hey everyone,
Personally, I think it's great you guys are trying to organize a LAFF for
next summer.  I know I'd love to be able to meet some FoLCs in person-
and from what I've heard they've always been tones of fun!  So, I guess
that's a "Yay" vote from Jill ;-)  TTFN FoLCs ;-)
-Jill aka AlienDove-
AlienDove@juno.com
my webpage: http://members.tripod.com/~AlienDove/index.html
The truth is nobody knows how long they've got.   Anyway, it's not years
that count, it's the moments.  Right now, as they happen." - Clark Kent
in "Brutal Youth"~~**~~ "You still my girl?" "Always." - Angel to Buffy
in "Enemies."
On Mon, 2 Aug 1999 20:34:28 EDT Chris P <CP13607@AOL.COM> writes:
>A group of us are contemplating putting on another LAFF in August of
>2000,
>tentatively for August 2nd through August 6th or 7th, but before we do
>any
>concrete planning, we would like to know if there is sufficient
>interest.
>This would be a Lois and Clark celebration for the fans and not for
>any
>particular cast member, but we would try to get guests from the show.
>Those
>of you who have attended previous LAFFs probably remember how much fun
>we had
>meeting fellow folcs. I was at the 1997 LAFF and even though the show
>had
>been cancelled and we didn't get to go to the set, we had a great
>time. We
>would also like suggestions for what kinds of activities people would
>be
>interested in.
>
>I will be posting this on Zoomway's mb at <A
>HREF="http://zoomway.com/boards/">Lois & Clark Message Boards -
>powered by
>the Ultimate Bulletin Board</A>  so replies can be posted there or to
>me at
>cp13607@aol.com.
>
>Chris P.
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Last night as I was watching "Tempus, Anyone" I wondered if anyone had ever
written a fanfiction where they do go back to the time when the Alt-Lois was
lost in the jungle of the Congo and find here?  After all, they could build
a time machine  LOL

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From:         "Demona (Angel Of The Night)" <nightangel@HOME.COM>
Subject:      OT:  New Music Video :)
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Hiya FoLCies :)

This is just a note to let you all know that I've put a new music video in
REAL MEDIA format up on the FLP website.  The URL is:

http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasyland/

You'll need REAL PLAYER to view the file, it's 5.5 minutes long and 8 MB to
download.  Believe me, that's good considering the Quicktime MOV and
Windows AVI formats were each around 210MB <g>

Best All :)
Demi
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Dear Wendy

If sending more of your wonderful fic to the list is being greedy. Please
please be very greedy. Don't let the fact that you have several in the
pipeline deter you from posting others

Jeanne

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,

BTW, for those who have asked, I do intend to edit 'A Conscious
Choice' to a PG or PG13 version, but not just yet; I currently have
*three* stories at various stages in the Archive editing process, and
I don't want to seem greedy by sending any more in!

Wendy
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Continuing the themed quizzes, this one features stories that, in turn,
feature Lex Luthor. He may be alive or recently returned from the dead; he
may be the secret manipulator behind the scenes or the suave billionaire in
his ivory tower; he may have a head full of hair or be follicly challenged.
:)

When I got started on this one, I found it very hard to stop. There are
really a *lot* of Lex fics out there, aren't there? I don't think I even
began to scratch the surface... I stopped at ten, because otherwise this
quiz would turn into a term final. :) Anyone who cares to create a second
quiz on the subject is certainly more than welcome.

But for now, all *you* need to do is figure out the story's title and name
its author! Again, this is an "open book" quiz, so do all the hunting you
need.  And DON'T forget the spoiler space in your replies!

Hazel

Excerpt 1:

        Luthor spun to look at the voice, instantly
recognizing it. "Lois?"
        She stepped forward, and besides her, Inspector
Henderson. And around them, a team from the Metropolis
Special Crimes Unit, guns trained on Luthor. "Hello, Lex."
        "What? How?"
        Henderson answered, "A tracking device. We knew
that Clark was innocent, so we planted the device on him.
And it led us straight to you. We heard everything."
        "But--but--" Luthor could obviously not believe that
anyone had defeated his intricately woven web of deceit.
        Clark crossed to Lois, placing one arm around her,
sheltering her with his body. "You underestimated one thing,
Luthor. I know Lois. Better than I'm sure you have ever known
anybody. And I know she would never cheat on me. With
anyone. So I had no reason to kill Superman.
        "I had faith in her, Luthor. Because I love my wife."
        "Very touching. But then why did you say those
things you did, about Superman?" Luthor was quickly losing
the last vestiges of calm.
        It was Lois' turn to speak. "Because we knew that
something was up. Someone had to be behind this. And we
had to prove who it was." She smiled then. "Besides, it was a
*great* story!"

Excerpt 2:

"From now on I want you to work just three days a week. Your many
appearances are wearing you out."

"But, Lex, I only work half days at LNN. I want to keep my job there."

"You will, Lois, you will. But not in the same capacity as before. I won't
let you lose your health and beauty. It's for the best."

For a moment *Lois* thought her future self would object, but...nothing.

"You're probably right, Lex."

"Now, why don't you go to sleep. Mrs. Cox and I still have to work a bit.
Don't wait for me." Lex kissed her mouth and her forehead and left the
room.

*Lois* exploded. Angrily, she shouted at her future self. "Why did you let
him do that to you? What's wrong with you? Where have your will and
determination gone? FIGHT! He has taken your independence and you just sit
there and drop your jewellery onto the table. DO something!" *Lois* paced
up and down, trying to come through to the other Lois but without any
success.

"Lois, please, calm down. She can't see or hear you."

Tears streamed down Lois' face. "Oh, Anna-Belle. I'm sitting in a golden
cage. Trapped. And...he... broke me, my will. He has taken my self...my
soul."

Excerpt 3:

        They landed in a heap, just beyond the refrigerator.
Clark scrambled off of the guard and half crawled towards
Luthor, straining to reach him -- Luthor was getting the window
open!  The driver saw his chance and, even though he was still
partially buried under the winded guard, grabbed for Clark's leg
and pulled.  Clark landed hard -- his grasping fingers just
missing Luthor's shoe as he climbed through the window -- and
came into contact with hundreds of tiny, glittering, deadly bits
of kryptonite.  He cried out in pain.  It was burning the exposed
skin on his hands and face and knee.  It stuck to his clothing
and migrated through the tears.  Every time he moved to get up,
he touched more of it.  Tears of pain and frustration were in his
eyes as he tried to make it to the window.  He had to go after
Luthor!  His hand was on the window sill, when the driver
managed to grab him again.  He lost his grip and fell back onto
the floor -- and the kryptonite.  His wounds felt like they were
on fire, but his fears for Lois were greater than the pain, and he
was marshaling every last bit of strength that he had for one
final attempt when he heard the shot.
        "Noooo!!" His anguished scream caused even the
driver to pause momentarily, and then they were dragging him
back away from the window, through the dirt and those greenish
bits of poison.
        He heard the second shot as they pushed him into a sitting
position against the wall.  The driver cocked a gun and held it to
his head, warning him not to move, but he didn't care what they
did to him now.  Lois was dead, and it was his fault, and
nothing else mattered.
        Oh, my love!  My dearest friend, what have I done?
Lois ... Lois ...
        A darkness was there, beside him, beckoning him.  It
promised a surcease of the pain, and the grief.  He could barely
breathe for the grief.  He let the darkness come and wrap its soft
fingers around him.
        His lady was dead; there could only be darkness for
him now.

Excerpt 4:

"One curious computer geek out of the way," Enrico O'Reilly announced as he
shut the door of Lex Luthor's office.

Lex looked at the end of his cigar and frowned. The days when he considered
murder an admission of failure were long behind him, but that didn't mean
he appreciated his subordinate's flippancy. "You got away unseen?"

That tiny hesitation before Enrico replied spoke volumes to a man who
prided himself on character assessment. "Lindy and I were both disguised."

"Which means you were seen. By whom?" Lex asked flatly.

"I dunno," Enrico said, shrugging. "A guy drove up just before we got back
to our car, and he parked behind where we'd been."

"Did he get a good look at you?"

"Nah. Not unless he could see like Superman."

Lex froze for an instant. Could it have been Kent? "What did he look like?"

"Glasses, light brown hair, kinda scrawny, maybe late thirties or so."
Enrico dismissed the witness.

That certainly wasn't Kent . . .

Excerpt 5:

   Lex Luthor stood in his penthouse and stared placidly at the
severe electrical storm raging outside his window.  He placed his
hands behind his back and sighed. "All of that power, Nigel, but
it lacks one thing."  Luthor turned and faced his servant. "Do you
know what that one thing is?"
   "I'm afraid I don't, sir."
   Luthor smiled through one side of his mouth. "Control, Nigel.
The ability to aim and direct it."
   Nigel's expression brightened. "Ah, Luthor Technologies has
perfected the weapon then?"
   Lex turned his head sharply. "Device, Nigel, not 'weapon'."
   Nigel felt beads of perspiration form at his temples. One did
not cross Lex Luthor, even by accident. "Quite right, sir, 'device'.
I misspoke. My apologies."
   Luthor's half smile returned as he waved the hand in which he
held a cigar so expensive it could run an inner city lunch
program for a week. "That's quite all right, Nigel. Everyone is
entitled to 'one' mistake."  He busied himself with a small control
board hidden beneath a false panel on his desk. After a
moment, a section of wall parted and a more sophisticated
control board attached to a monitor emerged. Luthor managed a
complete smile. "Control, Nigel.  My R and D people at Luthor
Technologies assure me that this device will create a bolt of
lightning indistinguishable from the genuine article."
   Nigel, though cautious, knew when to ask the right questions.
Questions he knew that Luthor would have the answers to, and
therefore actually desired to hear. "But, sir, if it is exactly like the
genuine article,  how will you know if the damage was incurred
by your device, or by--"
   "An act of God?"
   "Yes, sir."
   "Elementary, my dear Nigel. I simply choose whatever target
pleases me," he sighed and retrieved the latest addition of the
Daily Planet.  "And it pleases me to target the Planet."
   "Ah, yes," Nigel nodded. "That slanderous article. You should
sue them, sir."
   "Perhaps I will, Nigel," he shrugged and tossed the paper back
onto his desk. "But the wheels of justice grind slowly," he said,
and activated his machine. The exterior of the Daily Planet
appeared on the monitor. "But retribution travels at the speed of
light!"

Excerpt 6:

Lex lost his balance and with one short yelp of surprise and fear, toppled
over the
waist-high wall.  Lunging after him Clark made a desperate grab and managed
to catch his right wrist as he fell.  He grimaced at the agony in his
shoulder and fought for steadier footing.  Behind him, he heard a moan, and
chanced a look back.  Lois was sitting up, feeling the side of her head
where Lex had struck her.  Despite the pain, he felt a fierce joy at the
sight. She was alive - hurt, but still alive, and nothing else mattered.

"Lois, can you help me?" he gasped.  "I'm really weak - I'm not sure I can
hold him very long."

Lois got to her feet and walked a little unsteadily to him.  Lex hung from
Clark's hand, his face a pale expressionless mask.  He stared unblinkingly
at the wrist Clark held.  His other arm was dangling uselessly.  She must
have broken it when she hit him with the poker, she thought with a sense of
detachment born of shock. He had not uttered a word from the moment he had
gone over the wall  He looked up at Lois's face peering down at him and
made a noise, the frozen mask twisting into life.  He was laughing, she
realized, a gasping, strangled sound just on the edge of hysteria.

"Indestructible Lois," he said. "I should have recognized... my beautiful
Nemesis..."

 Lois ignored him.  "Do you think you can pull him up enough for me to get
a grip on his jacket?" she asked, leaning out to gauge the distance. The
moon had risen sometime in the last hour and its cool light poured down on
the balcony,  illuminating the scene.

"Lois, he's slipping," Clark whispered, "and I'm getting weaker by the
second."  His voice cracked and Lois's gaze flew to the white-knuckled hand
that Clark held so tightly.  The beautiful, poisonous glow of the ring on
Lex's finger seemed to pulse and expand, casting a sickly green reflection
on the hands of both men.

"Oh, god, Clark, of course you are," Lois breathed.  "As long as he's
wearing that ring, you'll never regain your strength.  If you don't get
away from it, you could die."

"Yeah,"  Clark managed a weak smile, "kind of ironic, isn't it?"

Lois looked at Lex again.  He was staring at the ring with dawning
comprehension.  He began to struggle, vainly trying to bring his body
closer to the building, to get a toehold on the slick surface only inches
away.

"Don't move, Lex," Clark said sharply.  "It makes it harder to - ah, no! -
Lex!"

Excerpt 7:

"Lex Luthor has tried to kill Clark at least twice that I know of since
last week, but both attempts have failed. The first because I knocked the
poisoned drink out of your hand and all over your desk, remember?" She
reminded him of an incident which had occurred shortly before the explosion
at the Daily Planet.  Seeing recognition in his eyes, she continued, "The
milk at your place the other day that I poured down the sink?"

He nodded, remembering how strangely she'd behaved, "It was poisoned too?"

She nodded, "I knew you'd had some and l was terrified. I'd been having
nightmares about Lex getting rid of you too somehow, and it seemed like my
nightmare was coming true." She shuddered then rose and began pacing in
front of him. "When you didn't even get sick, I thought maybe I had reached
you in time and that you hadn't ingested enough of the stuff to hurt you.
Later, when I listened to a conversation between Asabi and Lex, I realized
that even a small amount of the poison should have killed you. I started
putting two and two together and finally came up with four instead of
five."

He flushed slightly at her accusing glare.

"If we don't let Lex think he's finally killed you he'll figure it out too
and we may lose all chance of getting out of this."

"Lois, I understand why Lex hates Superman, but why does he hate Clark so
much? Except for not really liking him, Clark's never done anything to him.
I even saved his life, remember?"

She looked at him for a minute and he found himself having a hard time
interpreting the look in her eyes.

"Because of me," she said flatly. "Because he has decided to put me on his
mantelpiece and show me off to the world. After, of course, he has changed
me to suit his needs. If that involves killing the people I love the most,
well, that's a small price to pay. Besides, killing gives Lex a lot of
pleasure."

Excerpt 8:

        "Are you prepared to exchange?"

        (Silence.)

        "Yes. This city has been saved too often by Superman
not to attempt to save him."

        "Excellent. The time and the place of the exchange has
been sent to the same Inspector that received the original
package. Do not attempt to call this number again."

        Asabi placed the phone in the cradle. A wicked smile
rose on his face. Soon Luthor would be free and the rebuilding
of an empire would resume. Of course the police would try some
foolishness, but that had been prepared for. The final phase was
to begin. He had an urge to gloat. He lifted the pistol off the
table and went to visit his prisoner.

        The wooden door creaked upon opening once again.
Superman still hung from the wall, defeated.

        "You haven't much longer to wait. You shall be captive
no longer."

        "Luthor's being freed?"

        Asabi's eyes widened. "Impressive. Yes, the police and
the Mayor have agreed to an exchange."

Excerpt 9:

        "Do have some champagne!" Lex invited Bill Church
Jr. "You've ordered an excellent vintage and we should enjoy
it.  *I* certainly intend to."
        "Why not," answered Church, "if we're going to be
working together."
        "Yes..." Lex looked thoughtful as he poured
champagne into Church's glass.  "If you don't mind my getting
to the point, what do you want and why should I help you?"
Lex took a sip of his drink and continued, "You wouldn't go to
all the trouble to get me out of prison without having some
purpose in mind." He held his glass up to watch the bubbles
sparkle in the pale golden liquid, then turned his full attention
on Church.
        Bill Jr. sat casually on the arm of the overstuffed sofa
and sized up his former opponent and possible ally.  He knew
that most of the rest of the world had been taken in by Lex's
deceptions in the past.  He could admire that cleverness but
was determined not to be taken in by Lex's seeming
forthrightness now.
        "We have a mutual problem - actually, several mutual
problems," he started to explain.  "Intergang.."
        "Tried to kill me," Lex cut in coldly, "and stole my
kryptonite.  I nearly *had* Superman, and you ruined it."
        Bill Jr. looked in Lex's eyes, than sat back and re-
assessed his situation.  He had seen that look only a few times
before - always in the eyes of cold-blooded killers for hire,
always when they were annoyed.  A chill ran up his back at the
realization of what kind of creature he was dealing with.

Excerpt 10:

        Lois looked up from the notes she was taking.
"Aren't you concerned the drug will fall into the wrong hands?
After all, couldn't it be used on innocent people to make them
act against their will?"
        Prescott started to fidget.  "Yes, I suppose that could
happen.  However, the effects are only temporary and dissipate
after the drug is out of the patient's system."
        "But if the effects are temporary, how will it help
rehabilitate someone?"
        "That's the reason for the combination of the drug and
hypnotherapy.  You see, the drug lowers the patient's
resistance to post-hypnotic suggestions.  It is administered until
the desired behavior pattern takes hold."
        "How long does the process usually take?"
        Prescott began picking imaginary lint from his white
lab coat.  "It varies, depending on the strength of the subject's
will."
        Lois had yet to be convinced.  "As promising as this
sounds, Dr. Prescott, it still seems like brainwashing to me."
        "Miss Lane, is that so bad if it prevents another crime
>from being committed?  As long as you've been a reporter,
surely you can think of at least one criminal who could benefit
>from this kind of therapy."
        Immediately, Lex Luthor sprang to Lois' mind.  What
a waste, she thought.  She had her doubts that Mindbender
could work its magic on him.  "I suppose you have studies you
can show me proving your claims regarding the drug."
        Prescott hesitated.
        Ah, thought Lois.  Here comes the fly in the ointment.
        "Actually, the drug is still in the testing phase."
        Lois was growing impatient.  For all the good this
interview was doing her, she could be covering the fire with
Clark, getting quotes while he extinguished the blaze.  "Then
this interview seems a little premature." She flipped her
notepad closed for emphasis.  "Just how many more subjects
do you need, Doctor?"
        "Just one.  And that's YOU, darling."
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1) "Oh What A Wicked Wed We Weave" Jennifer Baker
2)
3) "Dimensions of Loving" Chris Mulder
4) Season 6, Episode 8, "Turn Around" Shelia Harper
5)
6) the title's in the excerpt :) "Nemesis" Georgia Walden
7) "Forever Obsessed" Judith Tylke
8)
9)
10)

well, 5 out of 10, not terrible

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Sorry to use the list for this, but it's the only way I know to reach
everyone.

My email appears to be working again as of today (Wednesday 4 August), but
any messages sent to me yesterday and probably the day before look like
they're lost forever.  I could chase UK Fantastic again, but at Ł1 a minute,
it gets very expensive very quickly.

So, Labrat - I only got half the message you sent me privately on Monday.

Roleplay - anyone who sent replies to the invitation either on Monday or
Tuesday better send them again - unless of course you got a reply from me,
in which case you know your message got through.

Jenni - your message came through OK.

Yvonne
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Hi Hazel!

Great extracts, and I need to read some of these!!

Here are the ones I knew immediately:

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1 - Oh What a Wicked Web we Weave - Jennifer Baker (Jiji)
2 - The Choice - Bella
3 - Dimension of Loving - Chris Mulder
4 - Walk in my Shoes - Sheila Harper
5 - ?
6 - ?
7 - Forever Obsessed - Judith Tylke
8 - ?
9 - 4X Lex (Almost) Louette McInnes
10 - Mindbender - Kendra Prince.

Wendy
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 A kind FoLC (Hi, Jenni!) pointed out to me that I sent out an
incorrect URL for one of the fanfic sites mentioned in my quiz.

The Url for Travis Covert's Fabulously Fun and Fantastic Fifth Season
is:

http://5ss.simplenet.com/ffffs/

Enjoy,
Irene

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Well, since I haven't had any new entries to this today and Hazel's
sent out a new quiz, here are the answers:

Extract 1:   If I had to do it all over again  -   LadyBiker
Extract 2:  Aliens and Strangers  -  Susan Stone
Extract 3:  Full Circle  -  Crystal Wimmer
Extract 4:  A Love so Long in the Making  -  Wendy Richards
Extract 5:  Anna  -  Rachel Smith
Extract 6:  Emptiness in Harmony  -  Christy Kubit

Well, LabRat, who claims not to like NextGen fanfic, completely
excelled herself by getting all six correct and takes first place.
Rat, you really must have too much free time - get back to 'Masques'
at once!

Diyan got #6 right, and identified #3 and #5 as well, but the wrong
way around - beats me!

Well done, both.

Wendy

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I think there are several variations on this theme.  Unfortunately, my mind
is coming up blank when it comes to remembering the titles.   I think one
involves our Lois and Clark helping H. G. Wells find Alt.Lois after
Alt.Clark
has been severely injured with Kryptonite.

Maybe someone else has a better memory for titles.

Ann
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Does anyone know what the DA's office would need to do in order to get a
bank to release someone's account details?  A court order?  If so, how would
they go about getting a court order?

Thanks,
Yvonne
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Wendy wrote:

>Well, LabRat, who claims not to like NextGen fanfic, completely
>excelled herself by getting all six correct and takes first place.
>Rat, you really must have too much free time - get back to 'Masques'
>at once!
>
Free time? LabRat looks up dictionary definition....nope, don't recognise
that one. <g> Remember you're talking to the person who's reading nfic
vignettes at one in the morning in order to catch up. (But only if she's put
in a hard day's writing on Masques first.)

It's not so much that I don't like NextGen fic as I'm not really a kiddie
person. You won't find me cooing over the neighbour's new addition, put it
like that. But some of them - in fact quite a lot of them - work their way
into my affections because they're just darned well written and the ones
that you chose for your quiz certainly fit into that category.

LabRat :) (returning to Hawaii as ordered. Aye, Aye, ma'am!)
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Well, I recognized the first one, so I was inspired to try my hand...
and as someone who hates doing research, I'm not going to look something
up unless I'm pretty sure of it already <g>

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> Excerpt 1:
>
>         Luthor spun to look at the voice, instantly
> recognizing it. "Lois?"
>         She stepped forward, and besides her, Inspector
> Henderson. And around them, a team from the Metropolis
> Special Crimes Unit, guns trained on Luthor. "Hello, Lex."

What a Tangled Web We Weave, by Jiji Baker

> Excerpt 2:
> Tears streamed down Lois' face. "Oh, Anna-Belle. I'm sitting in a golden
> cage. Trapped. And...he... broke me, my will. He has taken my self...my
soul."

I don't think I've read this one...

> Excerpt 3:
>
>         They landed in a heap, just beyond the refrigerator.
> Clark scrambled off of the guard and half crawled towards
> Luthor, straining to reach him -- Luthor was getting the window
> open!
<snip>
>         His lady was dead; there could only be darkness for
> him now.

Dimensions of Loving, by Chris Mulder.  I recognized this one
*immediately* because Chris tortured me with this.  She sent me the
story as she wrote it, and she sent this chapter *before* the rest of it
was even written, so I had to *wait*!  I think I called her and
threatened her with bodily harm if she didn't manage a happy ending
somehow... <g>

> Excerpt 4:
>
> "One curious computer geek out of the way," Enrico O'Reilly announced as
he
> shut the door of Lex Luthor's office.

Season 6!  Turn Around, by Sheila Harper, to be precise.  The beginning
of a really cool trilogy.  And just wait til you read our season finale,
heh heh...

> Excerpt 5:
>
>    Lex Luthor stood in his penthouse and stared placidly at the
> severe electrical storm raging outside his window.  He placed his
> hands behind his back and sighed. "All of that power, Nigel, but
> it lacks one thing."  Luthor turned and faced his servant. "Do you
> know what that one thing is?"

Counter Clark-Wise, by Zoomway

> Excerpt 6:
>
> Lex lost his balance and with one short yelp of surprise and fear, toppled
> over the
> waist-high wall.  Lunging after him Clark made a desperate grab and
managed
> to catch his right wrist as he fell.

Don't think I know this one, either.  It reminded me of "Through the
Looking Glass" but that's not right...

> Excerpt 7:
>
> "Lex Luthor has tried to kill Clark at least twice that I know of since
> last week, but both attempts have failed. The first because I knocked the
> poisoned drink out of your hand and all over your desk, remember?"

Forever Obsessed by Judith Tylke, and you guys have *got* to read this
one, it's excellent.

> Excerpt 8:
>
>         "Are you prepared to exchange?"
>
>         (Silence.)
>
>         "Yes. This city has been saved too often by Superman
> not to attempt to save him."

Hmm, interesting, but I don't recognize it.

> Excerpt 9:
>
>         "Do have some champagne!" Lex invited Bill Church
> Jr. "You've ordered an excellent vintage and we should enjoy
> it.  *I* certainly intend to."

Apparently I don't read that many Lex stories... <g>

> Excerpt 10:
>
>         Lois looked up from the notes she was taking.
> "Aren't you concerned the drug will fall into the wrong hands?
> After all, couldn't it be used on innocent people to make them
> act against their will?"

Vaguely familiar.  And I suspect it's called Mindbender... lemme see if
I can look it up... yes!  it's by Kendra Prince.

So, how'd I do?
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On Wed, 4 Aug 1999 11:32:15 -0400 Pam Jernigan
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> > Excerpt 4:
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> > "One curious computer geek out of the way," Enrico O'Reilly announced as
he
> > shut the door of Lex Luthor's office.
>
> Season 6!  Turn Around, by Sheila Harper, to be precise.

Oh no! I thought it was the second part, and I didn't check :(

> > Excerpt 5:
> >
> >    Lex Luthor stood in his penthouse and stared placidly at the
> > severe electrical storm raging outside his window.  He placed his
> > hands behind his back and sighed. "All of that power, Nigel, but
> > it lacks one thing."  Luthor turned and faced his servant. "Do you
> > know what that one thing is?"
>
> Counter Clark-Wise, by Zoomway

Arrrggghhh!! *How* could I have missed Zoom's Counter Clark-wise,
which is only my joint favourite Zoom story of all time, and a hugely
ingenious and moving tale to boot? Zoom, my profuse apologies - I'll
go and read it again right now!

(I knew it had to be someone who had Lex off pat...<g>)

Wendy

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Just a quick note to say:

a) Thanks to everyone who has replied so far
b) We're waiting another couple of days to give people a chance to respond
to the invite, and then we'll take a couple of days to assign roles, so the
'game' will  probably be starting sometime next week.

We're still waiting for someone to volunteer to be a major 'baddie'.  Anyone
feeling evil? ;)

Yvonne
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In a message dated 8/4/99 10:53:18 AM Central Daylight Time,
ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK writes:

<< Arrrggghhh!! *How* could I have missed Zoom's Counter Clark-wise,
 which is only my joint favourite Zoom story of all time, and a hugely
 ingenious and moving tale to boot? Zoom, my profuse apologies - I'll
 go and read it again right now!
  >>

Snap out of it, Wendy, or I'll smack ya <g> Even I really don't think of Lex
when I think of that story. He's the catalyst to events, but only by
accident. A deliberate accident, but still... Once Lex launches events, he's
really not in the story again till a footnote at the very end. The true A
plot doesn't involve fighting a villain so much as Clark fighting his own
conscience and ethics. It's like when I watch The Phoenix. I always forget
that it starts with the resurrection of Lex. I always think it starts with
Clark's daydream of being on the terrace with Lois ;)

Zoom
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From: Sue Modolo <smodolo@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Tempus, Anyone

>Last night as I was watching "Tempus, Anyone" I wondered if anyone had ever
>written a fanfiction where they do go back to the time when the Alt-Lois
was
>lost in the jungle of the Congo and find here?  After all, they could build
>a time machine  LOL

Sue (and anyone else interested), get over to Margaret Brignell's site or
to her listing in the archive.  Her "Only You" series, which is about
Alt-Clark's life, deals exactly with that.  :)   And it's a heck of a story!

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I opened the first part of this story, Christy, intending just to skim it
to see if it had been submitted to the Archive yet.  Instead, I ended up
reading all 8 parts straight through.

A *very* well written, well plotted, insightful piece.  You did a wonderful
job.

I thought your insight into Lois and Clark's thoughts and actions was
wonderful; you answered questions I didn't know I had until I saw them
addressed in your story.  I agree completely with your characterization;
there wasn't one thing in the story that struck me as wrong.  I think you
hit on the nail on the head especially with Clark's actions and
motivations--he did exactly what I thought he'd do in that situation (yes,
I'm being vague to avoid spoilers <g>) and the fall-out from that action
was handled realistically but still in keeping with the tone of the show.
This story felt like an episode to me ... not in structure exactly, though
you did a good job of alternating plot lines, but in capturing the tone of
the show and the characters so well.

The story was fast paced and really drew me in.  As I said, once I finished
a part, I immediately went to the next one, unable to wait to see what
would happen next.

One minor point--not sure if it was mentioned before since I haven't read
any other reviews of the story--but the file came through with absolutely
no appostrophes in it.  (e.g. "we're" came out as "were", "I'm" and "Im",
etc.)  I have no idea what could have caused this, or whether it was just
my computer or everyone's.

I'm assuming you've written in this universe before, based on some of the
references you made in the story (about their oldest child's birth, for
example).  I don't believe I've read those fanfics, but I would suggest
that if they exist, you mention them in your description, to point people
to other fanfics in the series.

Thanks for posting this story, and I hope to see it soon in the Archive.

Kathy

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>From: Kathy Brown <kathyb@springnet1.com>

<Major snip here>
> but in capturing the tone of
>the show and the characters so well.
>
>The story was fast paced and really drew me in.  As I said, once I finished
>a part, I immediately went to the next one, unable to wait to see what
>would happen next.

Not to make this a me too post, I completely agree. A great story!  The mea
culpa follows....

>One minor point--not sure if it was mentioned before since I haven't read
>any other reviews of the story--but the file came through with absolutely
>no appostrophes in it.  (e.g. "we're" came out as "were", "I'm" and "Im",
>etc.)  I have no idea what could have caused this, or whether it was just
>my computer or everyone's.

This is the only thing that made it hard for me to read.  I didn't see any
apostrophe's either.  But I got instead comma's and double comma's.  If it
hadn't been such a great story I don't think I would have tolerated it.
But, the story just sucked me in and I couldn't give in until I'd read all
the parts. This was a terrific story, just a little formatting difficulties
made it harder to read than some others.  I hope this can be resolved cuz
I'd like to see it on the Archive soon!

>Thanks for posting this story, and I hope to see it soon in the Archive.

I do too, as I said above.

Kathy, I appreciate all you do wrt editing stuff for the archive.  I've
never run into a problem reading a story there.

Keep up the good work!

Deb

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Deb Coleman                debbie@ikos.com
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At 05:25 PM 08/02/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 8/1/99 10:48:54 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Aerm1@aol.com
writes:
>
><<
> In a message dated 7/29/99 10:26:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Debby@SWCP.COM
> writes:
>
> <<
>  Let's see: my stupid job pays about $11.50 an hour... but I do have some
>  savings... ;) >> >>
>
>You realize of course Debbie if we collect the money, we'll lock you in a
>closet with a single light and a computer and a slot to send food and water
>in at regular intervals until you've finished Dawning XXX, at least one
>sequel to My Journal ( better not be as good as the original one or your
>incarceration is liable to continue through several more sequels) and gee,
I
>don't know what else, but rest assured we'll wring every concievable story
>out of that wonderfully, fertile brain of yours.
>
>Charlotte

First, you'll have to spell my name right or you'll never find me, and,
second,
if all that means my cat won't be bothering me (his favorite perch is
between
me and my keyboard), I may take you up on your offer :)

Debby
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In a message dated 8/5/99 12:43:34 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Debby@SWCP.COM
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<<
 First, you'll have to spell my name right or you'll never find me, and,
 second,
 if all that mea >>

Yeah, I know.  Sorry.  The fingers just don't seem to pay attention to the
brain sometimes.

Charlotte
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In a message dated 8/5/99 8:43:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Debby@SWCP.COM
writes:

<< If all that means my cat won't be bothering me (his favorite perch is
between
 me and my keyboard), I may take you up on your offer :) >>

Debby,

I think you and your cat need to  have a serious discussion about personal
space.  As a cat, yours should understand the concept of people needing a
certain amount of space at times.  Would you like my dog to explain this
fact
of life to your cat? <g>
The area between one and one's keyboard should be sacrosanct, and your cat
needs to allow you this space.  If the roles were reversed. I'm sure he/she
would expect you to allow him/her to type in peace.  If this fails, Digger
"knows guys who know guys."

Ann
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Title: At Wit's End in the East End
Part: 1/3
Author: Wendy Richards
Rating: PG
Feedback: if you must ;)
Summary: A L&C crossover for British readers.

Okay, a brief explanation before this one kicks off. This is not=20
intended to be a serious story - my tongue went firmly into my cheek=20
as it was being written and stayed there throughout. The 'crossover'=20
elements may be unfamiliar to US and other international readers; if=20
so, feel free to delete this unread - I won't be offended ;)  UK=20
readers should recognise some characters in here, though.

Well, here goes...

- At Wit's End in the East End -

"Lois, I still think we should - "

"Oh, Clark, stop fussing!" his wife ordered, throwing Clark Kent a=20
mock-impatient glance. "After all, it's not as if we're not going to=20
be *safe* around here - I mean, at the first sign of any danger, all=20
you have to do is use a bit of your buzz-buzz=85"

"Lo-is!" Clark muttered in protest. "I really wish you wouldn't call=20
it my 'buzz-buzz' - and anyway, you know I can't always do things in=20
public." He sighed, then added, "Please remind me what we're doing=20
here." He gestured with his arm, indicating the dilapidated=20
buildings, the rotting refuse, the broken alcohol bottles and shadows=20
in every corner of the back alley in Suicide Slum where Lois had=20
insisted they start their search. He wrinkled his nose. The stench=20
was appalling; even Lois, who wasn't in possession of a Super-powered=20
nose, had to be able to smell it.

She didn't appear to be that bothered, if she did. "Clark, you heard=20
the reports just like I did. There've been some weird sightings here=20
- "

"Oh yeah," her husband drawled. "A strange blue apparatus - like some=20
sort of shed - which appears and disappears. And you believe that,=20
even when all the witnesses are either winos or junkies?"

"Come on, Clark, it doesn't hurt to check it out," Lois encouraged=20
him. "And you're a fine one to talk about unexplained occurrences -=20
what if I'd said that about a man who could fly?"

He grinned at her. "Well, you did have a first-hand demonstration=85.=20
What the heck's that?"

A blue apparatus, somewhat resembling a shed, had suddenly=20
materialised in front of them.=20

"See?" Lois gesticulated at it, simultaneously turning to glare at=20
Clark. "See? I was right!"

Clark rolled his eyes. "Yes, you were, honey. Now will you please=20
stay back while I take a look?" he requested, but without much hope=20
that she would accede.

He walked cautiously up to the structure, discreetly lowering his=20
glasses so that he could take a  look inside. No success; it seemed=20
to be lined with *something* preventing his vision from penetrating=20
it, though strangely enough Clark didn't think it was lead. The=20
structure had windows on the front, but they were opaque, although a=20
strange glow seemed to come from within. On the front, a small sign=20
read 'Police Box.'=20

Police? No police precinct that Clark knew of had ever used a=20
structure like this.=20

The door was slightly ajar. He hesitated, wondering whether it was=20
safe to enter given the inexplicable way in which the structure had=20
simply appeared in front of them. But a small hand pushed its way=20
past him, thrusting the door further open.

"Come on, Clark!" Lois urged, "Don't you want to get the story here?"

"Lois!" Clark protested. "We don't know what's in there - I can't=85"=20
he lowered his voice noticeably, "=85X-ray it."

"Oh, we'll be fine," she dismissed his concern. "You're more than=20
capable of getting us out safely." She darted past him and inside the=20
structure. With a wry, helpless grimace, he followed her.

Once inside, Clark couldn't believe what he was seeing. The=20
structure, police box, whatever it was, had appeared from the outside=20
to be large enough to house one, perhaps two people. Inside, it was=20
cavernous; they stood inside one large room and it seemed that there=20
were others off it.

"Clark=85 what the heck is this?" Lois demanded, coming to stand next=20
to him.

"I have absolutely no idea," he told her, staring around him in=20
bafflement.

"It's a TARDIS, of course," a booming, English-accented voice sounded=20
>from behind them. They swung around, to be confronted by a tall man=20
with twinkling eyes and unruly curly hair. He wore a long woollen=20
coat and a multicoloured scarf which reached almost to his ankles.

"A tardis?" Clark asked blankly.

"And who are you?" Lois demanded.

The man strolled over to them. "TARDIS - Time and Relative Dimension=20
in Space," he told them, as if that explained everything; the duo=20
continued to stare at him in confusion. "And I'm the Doctor."

"Doctor? A medical doctor?" Clark enquired, thinking that this was=20
something he could understand.

"Time and relative dimension=85 are you a time-traveller?" Lois=20
demanded, before the Doctor could reply.

"Quite right, young woman!" the man replied, beaming at her. "But I=20
wonder if you could help me - I think I took a wrong turning=20
somewhere just left of Alderaan and I must have drifted off course.=20
Could you tell me where and when I am?"

"Alderaan?" Clark queried.

"Yes, the planet, of course." the Doctor responded impatiently. "But=20
it's destroyed now, so you may not have heard of it."

"You can travel to different planets?" Clark asked hoarsely, torn=20
between believing what this mysterious stranger was saying to him and=20
wondering=85 hoping=85 dreading=85. Just why was this man here?

Lois's gaze flew to his. "Krypton?" she whispered, knowing he could=20
hear her. He nodded imperceptibly. He couldn't possibly say anything=20
to this stranger - this possible crackpot - about that, though.

Lois rescued him. "Mr=85 Doctor, whoever you are, you're on Earth - in=20
Metropolis, to be precise, and the year is 1999."

"Doctor Who, that's correct," he replied mystifyingly. "Earth - I=20
hadn't intended to go anywhere near Earth. And 1999=85 ah well, it=20
could be worse. Now if I could just work out what's stopping the=20
TARDIS from dematerialising again=85 every time I try, it simply=20
returns to the same co-ordinates no matter what I try to set the=20
co-ordinates to.=85"

The Doctor continued to mutter anxiously to himself as he bent over=20
his control panel; Lois and Clark exchanged glances. "Crackpot?" Lois=20
muttered softly.

"Maybe. I don't know," Clark replied equally quietly. "If he is, it=20
doesn't explain this thing - how it's appearing and disappearing -=20
and why it's so huge inside."

"No, it doesn't," Lois agreed. She glanced over at the Doctor: he=20
seemed to be engrossed in his task. Before Clark could guess at her=20
intentions, she sneaked over to stand at the other side of the=20
console and began to examine the various dials, levels and displays.

"Lois!" Clark hissed. "What are you doing=85?"

The Doctor looked up. "Young woman, what do you think you're doing?=20
Don't touch that=85 No! Aaahhhh - Now look what you've done!"

Lois grabbed onto the edge of the console as the TARDIS began to=20
lurch alarmingly, loud noises emitting from it at the same time.=20
Clark rushed to her side, holding her protectively against his larger=20
body as he stared at the Doctor.=20

"What's happening?" he demanded abruptly.

The Doctor had hurried to Lois's side of the console and was=20
frantically trying to do something with some of the controls. "Your=20
companion managed to start up the TARDIS. But unfortunately, since I=20
hadn't finished setting the co-ordinates and checking all the other=20
controls, I have absolutely no idea where - let alone when - it's=20
taking us." He raised his head and glared at them suddenly. "And, by=20
the way, I don't believe you ever told me just what you are doing in=20
my TARDIS."

"You mean this is really a time-travel device?" Lois demanded,=20
ignoring the Doctor's implied question.

"Yes. It can travel through time, space and dimensions," the Doctor=20
explained a little impatiently. "I am a Time Lord."

"Time Lord?" Clark repeated incredulously.

"Yes. Like all the Time Lords, I am from Gallifrey - that's a planet,=20
of course! Do try to keep up!" Whoever this man was, Clark=20
considered, he wasn't exactly patient.

"And this=85 time machine=85 is now taking us somewhere, only you don't=20
know where?" Clark demanded.

"Precisely!" The Doctor turned away, again busying himself with the=20
controls. Clark studied the console for a few moments, but gave up as=20
he realised that none of them made any sense to him.=20

But a few moments later, the rocking and the noise ceased. The Doctor=20
raised his head, a broad grin on his face. "We've arrived!"

"But where?" Clark demanded.

"Not to say when," Lois muttered.

"Well, come on!" the Doctor exclaimed, already half-way to the door.=20
He threw it open to reveal an open, green space. Exchanging glances,=20
Lois and Clark followed cautiously.

They were in a grassy square, surrounded by shrubs and trees. Clark=20
took a quick look around, pulling his glasses discreetly down in=20
order to do so, and was somewhat reassured. Bending his head to=20
murmur in Lois's ear, he said, "As far as I can tell, we're somewhere=20
on Earth. I'm not sure it's America, though."

"Yes, but *which* Earth?" Lois demanded. "You heard him - he said he=20
travels through dimensions too."

The Doctor swung around to face them. "Well, I say - it looks as if=20
we've been fortunate. We're still on your planet, though I need to=20
find out exactly where and when." He paused for a moment, clearly=20
deep in thought. "Look," he added, "I think we should split up while=20
I see if I can find what I need to repair the calibration mechanism.=20
We can meet back here after dark, all right?"

Clark was none too sure that this was a sensible suggestion, but Lois=20
nudged him.

"That might be good, Clark! That way we can work on our own=85 and you=20
can use you-know-what!"

"But what if we can't find him, or that=85 *thing* again? We need them=20
to get back to our own world!"

"We could still be in our world," Lois argued. "Then all you'd need=20
to do is=85" She motioned with the flat of her hand, a sweeping upward=20
gesture.

Clark grimaced, prepared to argue the point; but the Doctor had=20
already disappeared. "Great. Now what do we do?" he muttered,=20
disgruntled.

Lois shrugged, then pointed towards a gate. "That way?" she=20
suggested.

"Might as well," Clark agreed, walking with her. The gate led onto a=20
road the other side of which was bordered by a row of tall=20
brownstones, most looking somewhat run-down. Their appearance, and=20
that of the square, did not suggest their location was anywhere in=20
America. Clark muttered something suddenly and darted to the side.

"See this?" he asked Lois, indicating a street-sign. "My guess is=20
we're in London."

"London?" Lois queried. "How do you figure that out?"

"See there?" He gestured. "All London street-signs have the area of=20
London marked on them. Here, it says E20 - that's East 20, the=20
district - and Borough of Walford. The borough is the local=20
administrative district," he explained. "There'll be a local council=20
for the area."

"And Albert Square," Lois read. "So we're somewhere called Albert=20
Square in the east end of London?" She turned to him and grinned.=20
"Well, you did promise to take me to London some time, though I never=20
thought it would be like this!"

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Rating: PG
Feedback: if you must ;)
Summary: A L&C crossover for British readers.

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"Grant? Grant!"

"What is it now, Tiff?" a bored voice demanded. The speaker was a=20
tall, muscular man in his early thirties, with little hair to speak=20
of, wearing a sleeveless T-shirt. He emerged from the kitchen to=20
glare at his much younger wife.

"Oh, do stop moaning, Grant!" Tiffany Mitchell replied. "You promised=20
you'd look after Courtney today so I could go up West. I want to go=20
now!"

"You're always goin' up West," her husband muttered. "And why do I=20
have to look after Courtney anyway?"

"You're her father!" Tiffany shouted back at him as she grabbed her=20
coat and shoulder-bag. "I've fed her and changed her, but she needs=20
some fresh air. It's not fair keepin' her cooped up in the pub all=20
day long."

She began to descend the stairs, then glanced back at her husband.=20
"And don't you go pestering Bee to look after her. She's got enough=20
to cope with, what wiv the stall and being pregnant again."

"As if I'd go near that crazy friend of yours," Grant muttered.=20
"She's a bloody harridan, that Bianca Butcher. The things she's=20
accused me of=85."

"Well, she's probably right about at least some of them," Tiffany=20
flung back at him, then left by the pub's side door, slamming it=20
behind her.

Still muttering about women's many failings and unreasonable=20
expectations, Grant Mitchell swaggered into his daughter's bedroom.

****************

"So what do we need to find out?" Lois asked as she glanced around=20
her curiously. "We know we're in London, but=85"

"But we don't know *which* London, or what year, or anything."

"Okay," Lois suggested. "How about we have a look in that store over=20
there - they sell newspapers."

"Good idea." Clark led the way across the road and a moment later=20
they entered the newsagent's shop. A scruffy-looking man of=20
approaching fifty grunted at them as they walked in; Lois ignored=20
him, though Clark bid the man a polite 'good afternoon'. Lois pounced=20
on a copy of the London Times - just 'The Times,' she noticed with=20
interest - and saw that the date was recorded as Monday October 5=20
1998.=20

"Nearly a year ago," she murmured to Clark. He had picked up another=20
newspaper - the Guardian, she noticed - and was flicking through it.=20

"Still no clue as to which universe we're in," he murmured in=20
response. "From what I can see here, Tony Blair is the British Prime=20
Minister, Gerhard Schroeder is the German Chancellor=85 and, yep,=20
Clinton's still US President." He continued scanning the paper, but=20
suddenly realising that the shopkeeper was giving them some hard=20
stares, he placed the newspaper back on the shelf. "Come on, Lois -=20
let's get out of here."

Lois put her copy of the Times back reluctantly; she would have quite=20
liked to take a copy of that world-famous paper home with her as a=20
souvenir, but she was aware that the only cash they had with them was=20
US currency.=20

Outside, Clark turned to face Lois. "Okay, I don't think we're in our=20
world."

"Why not?"

"That paper I was looking at - it had a media supplement, and there=20
was a feature article on someone called Rupert Murdoch. Seems he owns=20
nearly half the world's media, between newspapers, satellite TV and=20
internet communications. I think we'd have heard of him, Lois, don't=20
you? Especially as his company is based in the States."

"Oh great," Lois groaned. "We're stuck in a different universe,=20
thousands of miles from home, with only the clothes we stand up in=20
and a few dollars in our pockets. God only knows if our credit cards=20
will work here either."

"Well, we're going to meet up with the Doctor again later - with any=20
luck he'll have figured out how to get us back by then."

"Oh yeah - that's always assuming he decides to take us!" Lois=20
grunted. "From what I've seen of him so far I wouldn't exactly trust=20
him."

"Don't worry, I'll be able to find him," Clark soothed. "And I'm=20
keeping an eye on that TARDIS thing - it's still there. Or=85 it was=85."=
=20
he muttered as he tried to spot it again with his Super-vision. There=20
was nothing there any more.

Just then a small child, probably aged about two, came toddling down=20
the street towards them, apparently alone and distressed. Clark=20
crouched and steadied her, holding her still so that she couldn't get=20
away. "Hey there, little one, where are your mom and dad?" he asked=20
softly.

"I don't see anyone," Lois murmured, concerned, scanning the street.=20
It wasn't particularly busy, although there was a market on the far=20
side of the road; the traders appeared to be busy with their own=20
affairs and none of them seemed to have noticed the child. =20

Clark hoisted the little girl up onto his hip. "I guess we'd better=20
ask around, see if anyone knows her. Maybe the shopkeeper=85?"

But before he could go any further, an aggressive voice shouted from=20
several feet away. "Oy! You - you leave my kid alone!"

Clark stared in the direction of the voice and saw a bulky, muscular=20
male striding angrily towards him. "Are you this little girl's=20
father?" he enquired calmly. "My wife and I found her wandering on=20
her own - "

"Yeah, that's my kid and you better hand her over!" the man insisted.

"How do we know you're her father?" Lois objected.

For a moment it looked as if the man might strike out at her; Lois=20
saw Clark tense, preparing to defend her if necessary. Then the=20
stranger appeared to relax a little, calling to a passerby.

"Hey, Pat! Come here a minute, will you?"

A large, blonde woman in her fifties changed direction and joined the=20
little group. She seemed surprised at first, as if wondering what the=20
man wanted with her, but then her expression changed and she smiled=20
fondly at the little girl in Clark's arms. "Hello, Courtney love."

"Pat, tell these busybodies I'm Courtney's dad, okay?" the man=20
demanded.

The woman looked taken aback, but confirmed the information readily=20
enough. "Course he is - anyone round here will tell you that. 'E's=20
Grant Mitchell - that's Courtney, his little girl. They live at the=20
pub - the Queen Vic, on the corner of the Square."

Grant Mitchell nodded, then explained, "I took 'er out for a walk,=20
but when I stopped for a minute to talk to Phil, she just wandered=20
off. I've been searching for her for the last couple of minutes."

Clark handed the little girl over to her father. "We just saw her=20
walking towards us - she seemed a bit upset." As Grant took the=20
child, she snuggled up to him, clearly pleased to be with him.

Lois was taken aback at this sight: the man looked like a complete=20
thug, yet he clearly loved his daughter and she loved him.=20

The man turned his attention to Clark. "Thanks for looking after her,=20
mate." As the older woman walked off, Grant continued, "You're not=20
>from around here - Americans, are you?"

"Yeah - just over here on a brief vacation," Clark fudged. "Look -=20
have you seen a tall man, dark-haired, wearing a long scarf? He was=20
in the square over there not long ago."

Grant glanced around, then turned back. "Nah, I ain't seen anyone who=20
looks like that. But you could ask at the pub or the caff - someone=20
there might've seen 'im."

As Grant departed, Lois looked at Clark, puzzled. "The caff?"

"Caf=E9 - it's like the British equivalent of a diner," he explained,=20
scanning the street ahead of them. "I guess that must be it," he=20
added, indicating a building with a neon sign saying 'Kathy's'=20
displayed in the window.

"Do we really want to go in there?" Lois objected. "We don't have any=20
British money."

Clark paused and checked his wallet. "I got fifty bucks - if we could=20
find a bank, that'd get us=85 oh, about thirty, thirty-five pounds."

"I haven't seen any banks so far," Lois pointed out.

"Okay, let's go back the other way," Clark suggested. "There's=20
nothing else we can do right now - my guess is the Doctor's our only=20
way of getting back home, and he's disappeared off in search of=20
something. And, by the way, the TARDIS seems to have gone as well."

"It has?" Lois was shocked, clutching at his arm in panic.

"Look, don't get too worried yet. He did say he'd meet us, and I=20
believe him. We might as well have a look around for now - if we find=20
him, and we're still convinced he's going to meet us later, I can=20
take us into the centre of London and show you the sights."

Clark would have begun walking but Lois caught his arm, tugging him=20
back to her. He regarded her quizzically, and she pulled his head=20
down to hers, capturing his mouth. They shared a passionate kiss,=20
only releasing each other when Lois discovered  a need to breathe.=20

"What was that for?" Clark enquired, amused.=20

"Oh, nothing," Lois replied airily. "I just decided that if I'm going=20
to be stuck in a different country in another universe, I'd rather it=20
was with you and no-one else."

As they turned to resume their journey along the street, they noticed=20
a thin woman of about sixty staring disapprovingly at them, lips=20
pursed. "Young people these days - they got no sense of decency at=20
all. Behaving like that in a public place=85." She took a long drag of=20
her cigarette, allowing the ash to fall on the ground as she tutted=20
again. Clark turned his head towards her and blew discreetly. Her=20
cigarette extinguished itself, to her disgust; she tottered off in=20
the direction of the launderette, lighting another as she went.

Rounding the corner, Clark spotted a public house opposite them.=20
"That's the pub that woman mentioned - the Queen Victoria," he=20
pointed out to Lois. "Maybe we should check there for the Doctor."

"Sure - and we could ask about a bank at the same time," Lois agreed.=20

Lois looked about her with interest as they entered the pub, but was=20
disappointed to find that it in no way resembled the traditional=20
English pub of her imaginations. The interior was dark and dingy, the=20
seats were covered in a dark red velour fabric, and the place smelt=20
of stale beer and cigarette smoke. A rather grotesque-looking bust of=20
what she imagined must be Queen Victoria stood on a shelf behind the=20
bar.

The pub was relatively empty; it seemed it was not long after opening=20
time. As they walked to the bar, a middle-aged woman with a bubbly=20
blonde perm greeted them with a cheerful smile. "Hello luv - what can=20
I get you?"

"Sorry, we're not here to buy a drink." Clark said apologetically.=20
"We need to find a bank - um, we've run out of British currency and=20
we need to exchange some dollars."

"Oh well, I'm afraid you're out of luck in that case - there isn't a=20
bank in Walford. You'll have to go on to the next town." She=20
hesitated for a moment, then added, "How much d'you need anyway?"

"Oh, we just wanted to change fifty dollars for now," Clark replied=20
hopefully, giving the landlady one of his charming smiles. She smiled=20
back, clearly appreciating it.

"Oy, Grant!" she called, turning away from the bar. "Any idea 'ow=20
much fifty dollars is worth?"

The man Lois and Clark had met earlier appeared in the doorway.=20
"Dunno - thirty-something quid, I think." He noticed the couple in=20
front of the bar, and did a double-take. "Oh, it's you two." Seeing=20
the older woman's puzzled expression, Grant added, "They're the=20
Americans who found Courtney earlier."

"Oh well, in that case you can have a drink on the 'ouse!" the=20
landlady exclaimed. "Look, I can change your money for you - Grant'll=20
work out how much it's worth, an' in the meantime you sit yourselves=20
down. What'll it be?"

"Oh - that's very kind of you," Lois accepted before Clark could=20
demur. She had decided that, while she might not particularly like=20
the pub's interior, the woman's friendliness might give them an=20
opportunity to ask questions. "I'll have a diet soda." Seeing the=20
woman's puzzled expression, she nudged Clark. "Help me out here!"

Clark grinned, then turned back to the landlady. "My wife will have a=20
diet, ummm=85" he paused as he scanned the contents of the cabinets=20
behind the bar, "Lemonade," he concluded. "And I'll try a pint of=20
bitter."

"I'll bring them over to you with your cash," the woman offered,=20
indicating the seats grouped around the interior of the building.

As the couple sat, Lois leaned towards Clark, a puzzled frown on her=20
face. "Why does that woman look so familiar?"

Clark frowned. "I was thinking that too while we were talking to her.=20
But=85 hang on!" he added suddenly. "I know exactly who she reminds me=20
of - that British actress who was in all those Carry On movies. The=20
woman with the big=85 ummm.=85" He trailed off, noticing Lois's raised=20
eyebrows which informed him that she knew what he'd been thinking.

"I know who you mean, Clark," she hissed. "Barbara Windsor."

"That's who she looks like - only older," Clark agreed. "Weird."

***************

"Here you go, love." The throaty female voice close to his left ear=20
came as a shock to Clark, and he attempted to drag himself back from=20
his day-dream about one of the many Carry On scenes in which Sid=20
James pursued a half-naked Barbara Windsor. Smiling politely at the=20
landlady, he thanked her again as she handed him the British money in=20
exchange for his dollars.

She paused by their table briefly and introduced herself. "I'm Peggy=20
Mitchell, the landlady, and I'm also Courtney's grandmother, so I'm=20
very grateful to you for looking after her earlier."

Lois returned the landlady's smile. "It was our pleasure, Mrs=20
Mitchell. She's a beautiful little girl."

Peggy beamed. "She certainly is. Don't take after her dad, that's for=20
sure. Do you have kids?"

Lois's gaze flicked briefly to Clark before she replied. "Not yet,=20
but we'd like to."

Peggy smiled again. "Well, I hope you do. You have a good time now."

She returned to the bar, and Lois turned her attention back to Clark.=20
He had just leaned over and snaffled a newspaper which lay on one of=20
the nearby tables. Lois raised an eyebrow in amusement: so this was=20
the British tabloid press. Well, it didn't look anything like as bad=20
as the Whisper, but on the other hand it certainly didn't look like a=20
*news* paper.=20

He raised his head, sensing her gaze on him, and murmured softly,=20
"Well, this answers one question."

"What's that?"

"Whether Superman exists in this universe." He gestured at the open=20
page; Lois's gaze  followed the direction he was indicating, and her=20
jaw dropped.

"Superman is a *fictional* character?"

"Looks that way," Clark agreed. "See here - there are apparently=20
comic books, animated TV series, and four movies already. Seems there=20
are plans for a new movie - look."

"With *Nicholas Cage*?" Lois ejaculated in appalled disgust. "How on=20
earth could that=85 that weedy wimp play you? He doesn't even *look*=20
like you."

"Lois, sweetheart, we wouldn't want him to look like me," Clark=20
murmured.

"No, but=85 he doesn't look like he could bend a piece of paper with=20
his bare hand, let alone steel - and he's not remotely good-looking.=20
I could never figure out what Meg Ryan saw in him in City of Angels -=20
I'd have reported him to the police as a stalker."

Clark laughed softly. "Okay, okay, I take it you're not a member of=20
his fan club. Anyway, since Clark Kent is apparently a famous=20
fictional character in this universe, we'd better not let anyone find=20
out my full name while we're here."

Lois grinned. "That's no problem. You can be Mr Lane."

"Clark Lane=85 sounds like an address," he grumbled.

"As long as I live there too, do you care?" she teased him, flicking=20
his nose.

The pub was filling up; it was a little after noon, so this must be=20
the lunchtime crowd, Lois surmised. Murmuring "back soon" to Clark,=20
she got to her feet and walked slowly towards the bar, catching a=20
number of admiring glances on her way. She deliberately slowed and=20
met the gaze of one man who had called out a greeting to her.

"Hello yourself," she murmured, smiling at him.

"Oh, you're in with a chance there, Hugh," someone else called=20
lasciviously.

The man called Hugh smiled back at her and replied, in an accent Lois=20
didn't recognise, "You're American."

"Yes, that's right," Lois confirmed. "And you're not a Londoner, are=20
you?"

Hugh's face creased into a dazed smile. "I'm Welsh."

"Can't you tell?" someone else yelled raucously.

"Oh shut up, Barry!" Hugh retorted. "Err=85 can I buy you a drink,=20
Miss=85?"

"That's very kind of you, Hugh, but I'm with my husband=85" Lois=20
gestured towards Clark. "I was just wondering - Clark and I came here=20
with a friend, but we got separated. Have any of you seen a tall=20
man.=85" She described the Doctor, hoping that someone would have seen=20
him. Okay, Clark had said that he could use his X-ray vision to=20
search for the man, but Lois wasn't entirely convinced of that=20
strategy. For one thing, Clark would need to be very careful about=20
using any of his powers while they were here, and for another she=20
didn't trust the Doctor not to try to elude them.

"I saw 'im," a young woman's voice came from nearby. Lois turned to=20
see a woman of about her own height, about five months' pregnant,=20
with a glorious mane of red hair, coming over. "I got a stall on the=20
market, see, and he passed me about a half-hour ago. Tall bloke, you=20
said? No fashion sense a' all?"

"Sounds about right," Lois murmured, liking this young woman. "But=20
where did he go?"

"I didn't exactly see - maybe towards the Arches. You didn't see 'im,=20
did ya, Ricky?" she asked, turning towards a young man who now came=20
to stand by her side, placing his arm around her waist.

"Nah - but then, I was under a car most of the morning, Bee," Ricky=20
replied. He nuzzled Bianca's ear with his mouth and she pulled away,=20
shrieking in mock-outrage.

"Ricky Butcher - you'll make me spill my drink!"

"That's all right, Bee -  I can always get you another one."

Lois interrupted this by-play before the young couple could get=20
completely engrossed in each other. "What exactly is this Arches -=20
and where is it?"

Ricky returned his attention to her. "Oh, it's down by the old=20
railway bridge - on Bridge Street. The Arches is Phil's workshop. We=20
repair cars."

<Ah, that explains his oily overalls and dirty fingers> Lois thought.=20
"Thanks very much," she said aloud, and returned to Clark. "Take me=20
out of here - I need some fresh air," she murmured.

"Yeah, getting a bit smoky, isn't it?" he agreed.

Back outside in the Square, Lois began to fill Clark in on what she'd=20
discovered, but he touched his hand to his ear. "I heard."

"You were listening?"

"Sure I was listening. I heard some guy come on to my wife=85 of course=20
I listened!" he informed her.

"They didn't mean any harm," Lois insisted.=20

"No, I know, but=85 anyway." He looped his arm about her shoulders and=20
led her on. "Let's find these Arches."

****************

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Title: At Wit's End in the East End
Part: 3/3
Author: Wendy Richards
Rating: PG
Feedback: if you must ;)
Summary: A L&C crossover for British readers.

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"Aw, come on, Ma! I know you got more than that." The voice was=20
aggressive, threatening.

Dot Cotton, well used to her son's behaviour, refused to flinch.=20
"Nick, I told ya. That's all I 'ave. I ain't got no more."

"Twenty measly quid! What am I supposed to do with that? That won't=20
get me a fix!"

"Nick, I thought you were off that horrible stuff," Dot protested.=20
"Don't tell me you're back on it, no, please, you can't torture your=20
poor mother like that."

"Oh, shut up, Ma!" the scruffy, belligerent man ordered, grabbing at=20
his mother's arm. "You got to have more money somewhere - or=20
something I can sell. Now come on!"

He began to hustle her out of the laundrette and onto the road.

****************

"Clark? What is it?" Lois asked, concerned, recognising the=20
expression on her husband's face.

He glanced at her. "Someone's being attacked, I think."

"You can't do anything!" she reminded him anxiously.

"Superman can't - but I can," he muttered swiftly, breaking into a=20
run. As he rounded the corner, Lois close behind him, he saw a=20
scrawny, dishevelled man of about forty hustling an older woman out=20
of the laundrette. He recognised the woman as the one who had tutted=20
at them earlier.

The man was holding the woman too roughly for Clark's liking,=20
especially considering the exchange he had overheard with his=20
Super-hearing. He stepped in front of the couple. "Ma'am - is there a=20
problem?"

The woman glanced at him; it was enough for Clark to see that she was=20
frightened. But she refused to show it, instead replying in a falsely=20
matter-of-fact voice, "No, no, there's no problem. Thank you for your=20
concern, but you can go and get on with your own business now."

The man looked Clark up and down scornfully. "Yeah, get lost, mate.=20
You're not wanted here."

Lois watched Clark anxiously, wondering whether he'd be able to do=20
anything. Clearly the woman was frightened, but for some reason she=20
was unwilling to admit it. As she stood watching, a hand lightly=20
touched her arm. She glanced around, to see the woman called Pat=20
standing next to her.

"Your 'usband better be careful," Pat murmured in a concerned voice.=20
"That Nick Cotton's a bad lot. Dunno why Dot puts up with 'im, but=20
you don't want your man gettin' hurt. Best tell him to leave it be."

But Lois could see that Clark was speaking to the woman called Dot=20
again. "Ma'am, I apologise if it's none of my business, but it looks=20
to me as if this man is hurting you."

"Come on, Ma!" Nick ordered, tugging Dot so roughly that she stumbled=20
and fell. Clark caught her before she hit the ground and steadied her=20
on her feet again, then placed himself between her and her son.

"Try that on me, my friend, and I can promise you that you won't find=20
me as easy to push around," he told Nick softly.

"Get out of the way!" Nick spat, pushing at Clark. To his surprise,=20
Clark didn't move.

*******************

"What's going on 'ere?" Grant Mitchell had been sent out for some=20
milk by his mother, and was striding towards the mini-market when he=20
saw a small crowd of people outside the laundrette.

"It's Nick bloody Cotton, that's what," Mark Fowler told him. "I'd no=20
idea he was back, but seems he was bullying Dot again. Someone's=20
taking him on, though - I don't recognise the bloke, but he don't=20
look tough enough to beat Cotton."

Grant strained to see over the heads of the assembled crowd; he=20
recognised the petite American brunette who he'd seen twice already,=20
and groaned. "Don't tell me it's that Yank bloke - the one in the=20
posh suit?"

"Yeah, that's him," Mark replied, surprised. "You know 'im?"

"Ran into him earlier," Grant muttered. "Oh hell, I s'pose we'd=20
better see he don't get himself killed."

He pushed through the crowd, with Mark behind him, and frowned in=20
disbelief as he saw the American keeping his body firmly between Nick=20
and Dot. The man was protecting Dot, but at risk to his own safety.

Suddenly he saw a flash of something in Nick's pocket.=20

"Look out, mate, 'e's got a knife!" Grant yelled, lunging forward.

At the same moment, Nick grabbed the knife and jabbed the blade in=20
Clark's direction.

As Grant and Mark ran behind Nick and tried to work out a way of=20
grabbing him without getting anyone hurt, their jaws dropped as they=20
saw the stranger calmly reach out and grasp the wrist in which Nick=20
held the knife. He then squeezed; after a few seconds, the knife=20
dropped harmlessly to the ground. Mark picked it up.

While Nick was still in shock Grant lunged for him, grabbing him and=20
pinning his arms to his sides.

"You all right, mate?" Mark demanded of the tall American.

The man blinked, then smiled. "I'm fine. Has someone called the=20
police?"

"Oh, no police, please!" Dot Cotton pleaded. "They'll just lock my=20
Nick up again=85."

"Dot, you know that's the best place for 'im," Mark said=20
sympathetically. "You can't go around wondering whether he's going to=20
jump out at you from behind every corner."

"I'll deal wiv 'im," Grant muttered, dragging Nick away and around=20
into an alley.

***************

Clark was relieved that he had managed to disarm the man without=20
either giving away any of his abilities or allowing anyone to get=20
hurt. His gaze swiftly searched for Lois, finding her standing beside=20
the woman called Pat. She threw him a reassuring smile.

He turned to look at Grant Mitchell. The landlady's son had a tight=20
hold on Nick Cotton and was dragging him off. Clark didn't=20
particularly like the expression on Mitchell's face, and he followed=20
discreetly.

In the alley, he saw Mitchell throw Cotton to the ground and start to=20
lay into him with his fists.=20

"Hey, surely that's not necessary!" Clark called out.

Grant half-turned. "Look, mate, I'm sure we appreciate what you did=20
just now, but this is our business. We look after our own in the East=20
End."

So butt out. Clark understood the message loud and clear. Just then,=20
he noticed Nick Cotton kick out with one leg, trying to overbalance=20
Grant. It took Clark a split second to decide; then with one blast of=20
Super-breath he made the stack of litter-bins against which Cotton=20
was leaning collapse on top of him. They were empty, he reassured=20
himself; the man wouldn't have suffered any serious injury.

He turned and walked away. As Grant had said, it was none of his=20
business. He needed to get back to Lois, and find the Doctor.

****************

"There's the Arches," Clark pointed out a few minutes later. He=20
paused, fiddling with his glasses, then turned to grin at Lois. "He's=20
in there!"

"Doing what?"

"Searching through what looks like a stack of spare parts. God knows=20
what the owner thinks."

"Come on." Lois tugged at Clark's arm. They peered around the=20
entrance into the dark and gloomy interior.=20

"Oh, it's you two," the Doctor exclaimed, spotting them. "I did=20
wonder where you'd got to=85 but never mind. Perhaps you can help me. I=20
need a=85." His voice trailed off as he began to search through the=20
assortment of parts and accessories again.

"Describe it to me," Clark offered. The Doctor complied; not being=20
particularly mechanically-minded, the references didn't make much=20
sense to him, but he tilted his glasses and searched nonetheless.=20
Within a couple of minutes he was holding aloft a rusty,=20
strangely-shaped object. "That what you wanted?"

"Excellent!" the Doctor exclaimed. "With any luck, I should be able=20
to fix the mechanism now. I, ah, I take it you would like to be=20
transported back to your own world?"

"Yes, please!" Lois stated firmly.

"Well, if you can go and amuse yourselves for a couple of hours, I'll=20
be ready to go then. You'll find the TARDIS where we left it - it's=20
cloaked at the moment so you won't be able to see it. But when I'm=20
ready to go it will materialise for you."=20

Lois and Clark exchanged glances, then Clark turned back to the=20
Doctor. "Okay, two hours."

"What can we do in two hours - with thirty-four pounds?" Lois asked=20
as they exited the Arches.

"Well, how about I buy you lunch at the caff, and then we have a look=20
around the market?" Clark suggested.

Lois pouted. "It's not exactly the Tower of London, honey."

"No, it isn't, but I promise you we'll come back and do London=20
properly some other time. When we have as long as we want, and access=20
to as much money as we need," Clark soothed.

"Okay - the caff it is," Lois agreed.

****************

Two hours later, Lois and Clark stood in the middle of the square.=20
Lois was tapping her foot impatiently. "I knew we should have stayed=20
with him. We shouldn't have trusted him=85."

A blue object materialised in front of them. Clark glanced at Lois=20
but forbore to say anything, instead urging her forward.

The Doctor stood at the console as they entered. "Right - now where=20
was it? 1999, you said?"

"Yes, Metropolis, New Troy. And it was 5 August," Lois specified. A=20
thought struck her. "How will you know how to find the right=20
dimension?"

The Doctor grinned broadly at her. "We'll just have to hope for the=20
best."

Lois clutched at Clark's arm as the TARDIS began to lurch about=20
alarmingly again.

****************

Crossing the Square as he took his dog for their regular=20
afternoon-closing walk, Grant paused, startled. What was that sound?=20
The dog had heard it too; the creature whined in fear.

There was a quick flash of blue; a shape something like the old red=20
telephone boxes. Then it disappeared, and the noise with it.

Shaking his head, Grant urged the dog on.

*****************

"Well, if we're lucky you should be safely home," the Doctor=20
announced as the TARDIS fell silent.

"But what if we're not - what if it's the wrong=85?"

But the Doctor wasn't listening. He was urging them towards the door,=20
propelling them by the force of his own movements. Clark weighed up=20
the options: he could seize the Doctor and drag him outside with=20
them, and then if they were in the wrong place the man would have no=20
option but to take them back home.

But somehow, and he never knew how it had happened, he and Lois were=20
standing in the back alley in Suicide Slum where they had started -=20
or somewhere very like it. He shot a glance back at the TARDIS, but=20
was already starting to roar. As he watched, helpless, it=20
disappeared.

"Where are we?" Lois demanded in a whisper.

"Metropolis, certainly," Clark replied.

"But *which* Metropolis?" Lois asked, clearly worried.

Clark grabbed her arm and hustled her into a doorway before glancing=20
up and down the alley. No-one was around; he pulled open his shirt=20
and, clasping Lois to his chest, he shot up into the air as Superman.

He flew around, getting his bearings, and after a circuit of the city=20
landed them in the back garden of 348 Hyperion Avenue. "We're home,"=20
he assured her. "Everything's identical - even that T-shirt of mine=20
you managed to get chocolate on last night is still on the floor in=20
the bedroom."

Lois sighed; the thought of what they would do had they been stranded=20
in an alternate universe had been too much to contemplate on top of=20
their experiences that day. "Thank heavens for that," she murmured.

"What about our story?" Clark enquired.

"What story?" she demanded.

"The weird object in Suicide Slum=85?"

"You think we can write about that?" Lois demanded. "Who'd believe=20
us? 'Aliens kidnapped me and took me to an alternate London' - they'd=20
think we were crazy."

"Yeah," Clark agreed. "And anyway, we won't be seeing the Doctor=20
again."

"Guess not," Lois agreed.

****************

"Hi Grant!" Tiffany called as she hurried up the stairs. "Is Courtney=20
okay?"

Her husband emerged from the sitting-room, the toddler in his arms.=20
"She's fine. You have a good day?"

"Great, thanks," Tiffany grinned, taking her daughter from her=20
husband and handing him her shopping bags in return. "Anything=20
interesting happen around here today?"

For a moment Grant hesitated, thinking about the strange American who=20
had been so much stronger and fearless than he looked, and about the=20
strange noises in the Square. Then he dismissed his thoughts. "Nah.=20
Same as usual."

******************

Lois lay in one of her favourite places, her head resting on her=20
husband's broad, naked chest. "So, Clark, just when are you going to=20
take me to London?"

He grinned at her. "As soon as you earn us the price of the hotel=20
accommodation," he teased. "It's only fair, after all, since I take=20
care of the flights."

She flicked his nose. "Well, you'll just have to help me win another=20
Kerth award. The prize money should cover it."

"Shame we can't write about that TARDIS, then - that'd be an=20
award-winner all right," Clark grinned.

"Yeah - Kookie of the Year!" Lois muttered in disgust. "But I warn=20
you, I'm going to hold you to that London trip!"

"You do that, sweetheart," Clark suggested, before rolling over and=20
distracting her completely.

 - The End -=20
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Wendy Richards
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Wendy,

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An entertaining story, even though I imagine that *all* of the characters
are from television shows, including Grant, etc. Doctor Who I recognized,
at least. :) The Murdoch barb was funny. And I loved the idea of Lois
trying to interpret "British talk." Getting back at all the Americans for
insisting you use "cot" instead of "crib, huh?=20

Oh, and one little thing...

>>
"Quite right, young woman!" the man replied, beaming at her. "But I=20
wonder if you could help me - I think I took a wrong turning=20
somewhere just left of Alderaan and I must have drifted off course.=20
Could you tell me where and when I am?"

"Alderaan?" Clark queried.

"Yes, the planet, of course." the Doctor responded impatiently. "But=20
it's destroyed now, so you may not have heard of it."

"You can travel to different planets?" Clark asked hoarsely, torn=20
between believing what this mysterious stranger was saying to him and=20
wondering=85 hoping=85 dreading=85. Just why was this man here?

Lois's gaze flew to his. "Krypton?" she whispered, knowing he could=20
hear her. He nodded imperceptibly.>>

I'm sure you didn't intend it that way, Wendy, but I'll take it as a bit of
a salute. :)

Hazel
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Wendy,
                I'm severly behind in reading and have only managed to read
a couple very short stories on breaks at work, read this just now in five or
so relatively quite minutes.Great story! LOL and I loved having my favorite
Doctor, along with his TARDIS, traveling with my favorite supercouple.
Having Lois join Tegan, Adric and a host of others, including the much loved
Sarah Jane, walk into the TARDIS and push the wrong button was so real to a
long term Whovian that I could see the control room, the Doctor, and Clark
as clearly as if Tom Baker had shown up on L&C. Well Done!  JT (who's always
wanted a TARDIS of her own, or at the very least a short trip with the
Doctor)
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        My server dumped 793 messages on me last week and I've just managed
to finish wading through all of them. Many thanks to those who gave me
feedback on Forever Obsessed. Since I'm not convinced that I got evertything
which had been floating lost in the system I appologise if I don't get back
to someone who wrote me, the slight is not intentional I assure you, and I'm
still trying to respond to everyone. As Charlie Brown said, "My life is a
work in progress...Just wish I was making more progress...)

        Hazel, your fanfic recommendation was a really nice surprise, little
did I know when I started reading that one that you were recommending my
story, wow!  I was also very flattered that you and Wendy included a quote
>from one of mine in your fic quizzes, even if I didn't get to play in real
time I enjoyed guessing the answers and have kept notes on which stories I
missed, what a hoot to start reading and recognize my own words!

        The postings on feedback were very interesting and I found myself
agreeing with nearly everyone. I don't have the messages in front of me and
they've been deleted from my mailbox since it was over the limit since I
can't directly quote or refer to the authors of the posts accurately I don't
have  names for who wrote what. Whoever it was that wrote that she, (he?
sorry), felt initially strange in writing authors whose names and stories
are legendary in the LC Fanfic community had me thinking 'Yes! that's
exactly how I felt!'  Getting feedback from those self same authors gives me
goosebumps, how much better can it get then to have the authors you admire
tell you they like your work?  Or offer constructive criticism that helps
you to improve your skills simply because they are nice people?

        I received one not very nice mailing which mentioned 'verbosity' and
a few other unkind criticisms without any 'I liked that part' or 'this bit
was good'. Getting a really nice mailing from Pam Jernigan about the same
story, (I will write back promise), later that same day not only made up for
the ugly one but reversed the 'I'm only fooling myself, can't really write
stories others want to read blues' . I don't think any of us is so secure
that we don't feel that need for positive feedback and for those of us who
have only recently found the courage to share our stories with anyone it's
essential lest we stop writing altogether.

        I consider myself very lucky to be in this company, or maybe just
blessed by a guardian angel who made sure my forays into fanfic were within
such a supportive and caring group. For my part when I catch up on the
stories I haven't gotten to read yet I'll try to write to the authors and
offer them the same warmth, caring and nurturing that I've been given. And,
if it's one that's been around for awhile or by an author I'm sure is
inundated with positive mailings, I'll write anyway - since even just a "I
really liked it" brightens a day no end and sometimes makes the bad days
altogether worthwhile.

        Take care all, back to the grind, why do we work again?...   JT
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Wendy!  You made me laugh so much I could have bust my stitches ;)  Thank
you for a hilarious read.

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As soon as you mentioned the blue shed you made me laugh - I knew exactly
what you were up to - daft, but funny.  And thank you for making Dr Who Tom
Baker - it was him and not Patrick Troughton, wasn't it?

Took me a little longer to cotton on when we landed in the square, but then
I realised the significance of the title...LOL!

I enjoyed all of it, but I particularly liked Clark's answer here:

Lois lay in one of her favourite places, her head resting on her
husband's broad, naked chest. "So, Clark, just when are you going to
take me to London?"

He grinned at her. "As soon as you earn us the price of the hotel
accommodation," he teased. "It's only fair, after all, since I take
care of the flights."

Love it!

Do it again soon,
Yvonne
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Spoilers below on "At Wit's End ..."

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LOL Wendy!  Doctor Who ... I love it!  And from the description, the
"unruly curly brown hair", I'm guessing it's my favorite Doctor, Tom Baker?

I didn't recognize any of the other characters, but it was still a fun
read. Care to give the rest of us a list of where they came from?

>>>
"Looks that way," Clark agreed. "See here - there are apparently
comic books, animated TV series, and four movies already. Seems there
are plans for a new movie - look."

"With *Nicholas Cage*?" Lois ejaculated in appalled disgust. "How on
earth could that=D6 that weedy wimp play you? He doesn't even *look*
like you."
<<<<

ROTFL! We all know EXACTLY how you feel, Lois! <g>

>>
"Don't tell me it's that Yank bloke - the one in the
posh suit?"
<<

Heh heh, everyone appreciates Clark's good wardrobe taste. ;)

>>>>
Grant half-turned. "Look, mate, I'm sure we appreciate what you did
just now, but this is our business. We look after our own in the East
End."

<snip>

He turned and walked away. As Grant had said, it was none of his
business. He needed to get back to Lois, and find the Doctor.

<<<<

But he didn't butt out when Dot told him to ... Clark usually protects even
criminals.

>>>
"Yes, Metropolis, New Troy. And it was 5 August," Lois specified. A
thought struck her. "How will you know how to find the right
dimension?"
<<<

August 5th ... sorry, Wendy, you know I have to tease you when you have L&C
talk Brit. ;)

=46un story, Wendy. :)

Kathy

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>O
>O
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>O

Wendy- I don't know anything about Dr. Who (as apparently the others who've
replied do), but I loved it.  Could have stood for it to be a bit longer...

>from Kathy:
>
>>>>>
>Grant half-turned. "Look, mate, I'm sure we appreciate what you did
>just now, but this is our business. We look after our own in the East
>End."
>
><snip>
>
>He turned and walked away. As Grant had said, it was none of his
>business. He needed to get back to Lois, and find the Doctor.
>
><<<<
>
>But he didn't butt out when Dot told him to ... Clark usually protects even
>criminals.

Okay, I'm not sure if I agree with what I'm about to say, but here goes:
every place has laws and punishments for breaking the laws.  Nick had broken
the laws of the East End and Grant was dealing out the prescribed punishment
(though maybe 'prescribe' is the wrong word since it's an unwritten law and
'prescribe' means '*write* before').  Clark protects against injustice, but
he's never protected criminals from justice (except sort of in 'The Ides of
Metropolis'...)

>
>
>>>>
>"Yes, Metropolis, New Troy. And it was 5 August," Lois specified. A
>thought struck her. "How will you know how to find the right
>dimension?"
><<<
>
>August 5th ... sorry, Wendy, you know I have to tease you when you have L&C
>talk Brit. ;)

LOL, Kathy.  I'm American, but it took me a minute to figure out which
Britishism you were refering to: I write the date with the day before the
month.

-Diyan
zimri@hotmail.com
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Judith,

There was one thing that you said in your very articulate post that
jumped out at me.

>         I received one not very nice mailing which
> mentioned 'verbosity' and a few other unkind
> criticisms without any 'I liked that part' or 'this > bit was good'.
Getting a really nice mailing from Pam
> Jernigan about the same story, (I will write back
> promise), later that same day not only made up for
> the ugly one but reversed the 'I'm only fooling
> myself, can't really write
> stories others want to read blues' . I don't think
> any of us is so secure
> that we don't feel that need for positive feedback
> and for those of us who
> have only recently found the courage to share our
> stories with anyone it's
> essential lest we stop writing altogether.

I agree with your comments completely and I am very sad that someone
sent you such a negative post.  I have received very valuable feedback
>from people on my posted stories, and I very much appreciate having
inconsistencies and incongruities pointed out to me, but I sure don't
want to be on the receiving end of a completely negative critical
email.  Judith, I urge you to listen to the rest of us who thoroughly
enjoyed your story.  It was brilliantly executed.  I have already
reread it a few times and I've enjoyed it as much each time.  And I
never noticed any verbosity.

Take care, write more, and share with those of us who enjoy your work,
Irene

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S
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Wendy, Wendy, Wendy....only you could square up Clark Kent and Grant
Mitchell in the (almost) fight of the decade. Like Celebrity Deathmatch. Oh,
how we've longed for someone to deck that man. <G>

Howled at Clark recognising Babs Windsor aka Peggy Mitchell as a former
Carry On Queen....and:

>>>"I'll deal wiv 'im," Grant muttered, dragging Nick away and around
into an alley.>>>

ROTF! Now I'm in conflict, but I guess if it's Grant against Nick I have to
say Yay, Grant - go for it, my son!

Just one complaint - you missed a perfect opportunity to have our heroes
encounter Walford's very own daring, reporting duo: Tony and Polly!!
Remember that flash punk hairstyle?  I fondly remember that moment in
Eastenders when someone they were digging up the dirt on (can't for the life
of me remember who now) leaned over the cafe table and sneered "Well, look
who it is - Lois and Clark!'. Can't you just imagine the real thing sitting
at a table not too far distant at that very moment and looking appalled at
being compared to those two scruffy mongrels?! <G>

Thanks for letting me wind down with some fun this evening.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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poured into his clothes and had forgotten to say "When!"  -- PG Wodehouse,
Very Good, Jeeves.

"We're living in an age where you have to call a chick and ask her if she'll
wear a dress tonight. And they say, "You're weird."  --- Tim Rose.
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"Tylke, Judith" wrote:

>         I received one not very nice mailing which mentioned 'verbosity'
and
> a few other unkind criticisms without any 'I liked that part' or 'this bit
> was good'. Getting a really nice mailing from Pam Jernigan about the same
> story, (I will write back promise), later that same day not only made up
for
> the ugly one but reversed the 'I'm only fooling myself, can't really write
> stories others want to read blues' . I don't think any of us is so secure
> that we don't feel that need for positive feedback and for those of us who
> have only recently found the courage to share our stories with anyone it's
> essential lest we stop writing altogether.

And, I want to make absolutely clear that this *wasn't* me.  (I know
what a few of you probably thought,;) but you're thinking wrong.)

Judith.... I've been meaning to read your story, especially as I was the
one who compiled the information for the BatP and HoL episodes for the
compendium on Zoomway's site.  For a while there, I felt like I was
living, breathing, and eating those two episodes since I took the
gathering of that info very seriously -- watching and rewatching,
winding and rewinding. (The tape that is.<g>)  In any case, I'll look
forward to all your supposed "verbosity" since -- as you can tell -- I
no doubt rival you on that score and will probably love it as a
result.<g>

*******

On another topic, SPOILERS below for Richard Mobile's story.

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What I did read recently was Richard Mobile's "Life in a Different
World."  Thought it was terrific and greatly enjoyed seeing a "bad"
Clark.  It was not only very imaginative, but I kind of liked seeing
"Clark" do all the things one would suspect a less noble character with
his powers might do.  Is Richard on this list?  Is Richard a man so I
don't go insulting someone?  (I get confused with these screen names.)
Anyway, I just noticed one little point in the story where I thought I
found an inconsistency. It involved alt-Lois' reaction to our Clark when
he first showed up at her apt.  At that meeting, she practically attacks
him and won't allow him near her. However, later when she is trying to
explain alt-Clark's behavior to our Clark in an attempt to assure him
about our Lois' safety, she says:

 >"But you see," said Lois, continuing the subject under discussion,
 >"except for that incident, Clark has actually been *less* pushy
 >than most of the other men I've worked with."  Clark raised his
 >eyebrows.  "Really," said Lois.  "We've been working together
 >for six months now; we've been on all-night stakeouts together
 >and he's never gone over the line.  What I'm trying to say is ...
 >I don't think you have to worry about your wife."  She was pleased
 >to see Clark's face lighten.  "Now, can we get back to this
 >thunderstorm-that-somehow-hurled-you-into-our-universe thing?"

So, I thought, well then, why was she so hostile to him earlier if
alt-Clark hadn't been coming on to her every chance he could?  Was her
reaction based solely on that one incident in the supply closet where
"he" broke Jimmy's arm?

Anyway, other than this one thing, I thought it was a really fresh look
at L&C and I hope you do write a sequel set totally in the alt-world
with only the alt-characters and show us a little bit of alt-Clark's
personal struggle if you will.<whew!> I don't want alt-Clark to turn
into our Clark too easily.<g>  Besides, he really couldn't, could he?
He's always going to be a little bit like an abused animal you adopt
>from the shelter -- having flashbacks which could make for a dicey
situation or two, e.g., imagine him coming upon an abusive family
situation as Superman.  I could really see him losing his carefully
controlled cool.

Thanks for a great read,
alt-Sandy
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> >         I received one not very nice mailing which mentioned 'verbosity'
and
> > a few other unkind criticisms without any 'I liked that part' or 'this
bit
> > was good'. Getting a really nice mailing from Pam Jernigan about the
same
> > story, (I will write back promise), later that same day not only made up
for
> > the ugly one but reversed the 'I'm only fooling myself, can't really
write
> > stories others want to read blues' . I don't think any of us is so
secure
> > that we don't feel that need for positive feedback and for those of us
who
> > have only recently found the courage to share our stories with anyone
it's
> > essential lest we stop writing altogether.

Hey you guys, now, I thought I told yall to play nice.
Just wondering, (and because I have been away for a while) but should we
post the FAQ again. I believe there is a section on this. It isn't fun
getting unflattering emails. People, reread before you send and think to
yourself, "Gee, could this be considered negativly?" If you honestly think
not and the person emails you privately saying, "You hurt my feelings,"
then ask what bothered them and explain your reasons for whatever comments
you make.

Also, if you received an email privately (which i'm not sure if this one
is or not), then keep all of the comments pertaining to it private. Of
course unless it's from bill clinton saying, "I read your story and I
think its great!"

Well Zoom, I did say that I was going to lurk for a while, but I couldn't
help it :). It's good to be home. Farah

MU1 Chisham
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Farah! It's so nice to see you post again. We have missed you, you know....
(Not to say that Zoom did such a bad job - she did a bang-up job, actually
:) - but it's nice to have our list mommy back :)

Melisma
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In a message dated 8/5/99 9:00:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
fchisham@CS.INDIANA.EDU writes:

<< Well Zoom, I did say that I was going to lurk for a while, but I couldn't
 help it :). It's good to be home. Farah >>

It's okay by me, Farah, I wasn't going to blab that you were back, but I'm
glad you did <g> Welcome back ;)

Zoomway@aol.com (happily handing the "mom" hat back where it belongs ;)
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At 4:51 PM -0400 8/5/99, Tylke, Judith wrote:
>        I received one not very nice mailing which mentioned 'verbosity'
and
>a few other unkind criticisms without any 'I liked that part' or 'this bit
>was good'. Getting a really nice mailing from Pam Jernigan about the same
>story, (I will write back promise), later that same day not only made up
for
>the ugly one but reversed the 'I'm only fooling myself, can't really write
>stories others want to read blues' .

If it makes you feel better, Judith, I read Forever Obsessed before
assigning it to be edited for the archive.  When I sent it off to Erin, I
added a note to the beginning of the story telling her that it was a good
one and she'd enjoy it. When she returned the final version, she added her
own note -- "you're right! It was good!"

:)

Kathy (mean people suck ;))

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At 8:39 PM -0400 8/5/99, Sandy McDermin wrote:

>What I did read recently was Richard Mobile's "Life in a Different
>World."  Thought it was terrific

> Is Richard on this list?

I don't believe Richard is on the list since I would think he would have
posted a response to all this great feedback on his latest story. (I, too,
am assuming he is a man based on the screen name.)

His email address is on the story, however, so I would hope and suggest
that you all forward your comments to him privately as well as send them
here.  We love reading recommendations (a great advantage to this list) but
I'm sure Richard would love hearing them even more.

Kathy

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Farah, welcome back!  Are you back for good, or just teasing us with your
post? <g>

At 9:00 PM -0500 8/5/99, fchisham wrote:
>> >         I received one not very nice mailing which mentioned
>>'verbosity' and
>> > a few other unkind criticisms without any 'I liked that part' or 'this
bit
>> > was good'.

>Also, if you received an email privately (which i'm not sure if this one
>is or not), then keep all of the comments pertaining to it private.

I don't think Judith did anything wrong here.  I'm pretty sure this
negative email was sent privately since I never saw it here on this list.
And I agree that if someone sends you comments privately, you shouldn't
reply publically or pass their name around saying "this person is a jerk".
<g>  But Judith just refered vaguely to the fact that she got a negative
message in the context of explaining how she had been doubting herself so
it was extra good to get feedback--getting feedback being a recent thread
on this list.  I see the point of not broadcasting private emails, but in
this context, I don't see a problem with her comment.

Kathy

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Kathy wrote-
<< I opened the first part of this story, Christy, intending just to skim it
to see if it had been submitted to the Archive yet.>>

It hasn't ;) I wanted to wait for some comments from sending it out to the
list before sending it on to the Archive.

<< A *very* well written, well plotted, insightful piece.  You did a
wonderful job.

I thought your insight into Lois and Clark's thoughts and actions was
wonderful; you answered questions I didn't know I had until I saw them
addressed in your story.  I agree completely with your characterization;
there wasn't one thing in the story that struck me as wrong.>>

Thank you; that's a wonderful compliment. I'm sometimes more comfortable
with
characters I create for myself (evidence my creating L&C's children, a young
Martha, further characterizing Perry) because I worry that I'm not being
true
enough to the show's characters. I think being true to the show's feel and
characterization is the hardest thing in writing fanfic, so I feel very
honored to be complimented like this.

<< One minor point--not sure if it was mentioned before since I haven't read
any other reviews of the story--but the file came through with absolutely no
appostrophes in it. [snip] I have no idea what could have caused this, or
whether it was just my computer or everyone's. >>

I'm sorry. It wasn't just you. It was my gosh-darn email system, which has
mangled more than its fair share of messages. Fear not- it will be
comma-complete when I send it to the archive (which will probably be as soon
as I can find the disk I saved it on, as I'm home from college for a few
weeks before classes recommence).

<< I'm assuming you've written in this universe before, based on some of the
references you made in the story (about their oldest child's birth, for
example).  I don't believe I've read those fanfics, but I would suggest that
if they exist, you mention them in your description, to point people to
other
fanfics in the series.>>

I have written in the universe before, and your suggestion is a good one.
Since I didn't mention them in my intro to the story, here they are now.
I've
written one story with a teenaged Catie who is not pleased at being super
(Emptiness in Harmony), one detailing Lara's birth (Small Steps), a
Christmas
Carol parody with Lois playing Scrooge where the kids take minor roles
(Magic), a (consider yourself warned) deathfic (A Dying Flame), and a story
where one of the kids finds out CK=SM (AKA Daddy).

Deb wrote-
<< I didn't see any apostrophe's either.  But I got instead comma's and
double comma's.  If it hadn't been such a great story I don't think I would
have tolerated it. But, the story just sucked me in and I couldn't give in
until I'd read all
the parts. >>

I haven't heard about the commas and double commas yet... Hm, maybe my
school
email account was posessed that day. Anyway, I'm glad the story overcame my
sending errors. Next time I send a story to the list, I'll have to use this
(my home, AOL) account instead. Thanks again for all the nice comments and I
promise the story will get submitted to the archive soon.

-Christy
 kubitc@kenyon.edu or attalanta@aol.com
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>>He grinned at her. "As soon as you earn us the price of the hotel
>>accommodation," he teased. "It's only fair, after all, since I take
>>care of the flights."

You aren't kidding about that one!  I'm going to London in about  a month
for a three month long study abroad, but first my mom and I are going to do
the London tourist thing for about a week and hotels are horrendous!  The
one we are looking at charges about $100 more just for a rollaway bed!

I also loved the lingo and have a little bit of trouble trying to decipher
it myself.  Does anybody know what a cooker with hob is?  The cooker is a
stove, right? But so far I don't have a clue what a hob is.

This was a great story and I love to non-American perspectives Lois and
Clark.  It just proves what a great show it is, even after several years of
being off the air.

Thanks Wendy!

Ara :o)
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Ara Swanson wrote:

<SNIP>
> You aren't kidding about that one!  I'm going to London in about  a month
> for a three month long study abroad, but first my mom and I are going to
do
> the London tourist thing for about a week and hotels are horrendous!  The
> one we are looking at charges about $100 more just for a rollaway bed!
>
> I also loved the lingo and have a little bit of trouble trying to decipher
> it myself.  Does anybody know what a cooker with hob is?  The cooker is a
> stove, right? But so far I don't have a clue what a hob is.

Well, according to my trusty British --> American, American --> British
website:

http://www.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionary/dict.html

You're right, a cooker is a stove and a hob is:

hob (n): flat top of cooker, hot plate.  (Perhaps pilot lights are under
them? she asks.)

Speaking of dialects, I was noticing how quickly some people were able
to come up with the answers to the fanfic quizzes which have been
recently posted.  I kept thinking, how could they be made harder.<g>
So, I went surfing a little bit and came upon a very interesting website
called "The Dialectizer."  The way it works is, you put any amount of
text you want into a box, click the button, and it changes your passage
into that particular dialect.  I tried this with portions of "Love as a
Blonde" -- especially portions heavy with dialogue -- and it was simply
hilarious.  However, I didn't want to post the results here because a
couple of these "dialects" are extreme representations of how some
groups are "thought to speak" and may be offensive to someone. If this
doesn't offend you; however, you might want to take some of your work
and give it a whirl.
(At first, I thought this would be a neat way of disguising passages of
stories better for the quizzes. They do have Elmer Fudd <g>, pig latin,
and Swedish chef <heh?> there; however, as I said....)

Anyway, the website is:

http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/

Sandy
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>Well Zoom, I did say that I was going to lurk for a while, but I couldn't
>help it :). It's good to be home. Farah
>

FARAH!!

Woo hoo, our list mom is back!!

Welcome welcome, and that lovely tune you hear in the background is being
played by the local chapter of the LnC Band. :)

Zoom took good care of us while you were away, don't worry...

Hazel
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>> Is Richard on this list?
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>
>I don't believe Richard is on the list since I would think he would have
>posted a response to all this great feedback on his latest story. (I, too,
>am assuming he is a man based on the screen name.)
>
>His email address is on the story, however, so I would hope and suggest
>that you all forward your comments to him privately as well as send them
>here.  We love reading recommendations (a great advantage to this list) but
>I'm sure Richard would love hearing them even more.
>
>Kathy

Kathy, Richard is not on the list. Wendy made a similar suggestion a week
back and I snipped and pasted several gushings :) and sent it to him. He
was very appreciative. Labrat's post came out right after that though, so
she might want to send it to him too. :)

Hazel
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Here are the answers to the quiz on Lex stories!

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Story 1: "Oh, What a Tangled Web We Weave," by Jennifer Baker. A fabulous
story which many have assumed was based upon SL&V until you realize that
Jennifer wrote this story *before* the end of Season *2*! If you haven't
read it, do so immediately -- it's a classic.

Story 2: "The Choice," by Bella, in which the author explains why Lois
tries out "Lois Lane...Kent" in HoL.

Story 3: "Dimensions of Loving," by Chris Mulder. This story doesn't need
an explanation or an introduction from *me*! :)

Story 4: "Turn Around," from S6, by Sheila Harper. This is the first of a
three-parter that had all the FoLCs on the edge of their seats!

Story 5: "Counter Clark-wise," by the great Zoom. :) One of my favorites!
Then again, most of Zoomway's stories are my favorites. And while it's
true, as Zoom pointed out, that this story isn't really about Lex (he
merely frames the story), I still love the way he's portrayed, even if it's
just for a few paragraphs. :)

Story 6: "Nemesis," by Georgia Walden. This is the sequel to her "Alt Shook
Up," both of which are excellent alt-stories!

Story 7: "Forever Obsessed," by Judith Tylke. You know a story's going to
be good when the first sentence is a bit of dialogue from Lois: "We have to
let Lex kill Clark. I don't see any other way."

Story 8: "The Long Road to Utopia," by Michael Ring. Clark hadn't planned
on ending up shackled to a wall right after proposing to Lois, but it's all
a day in the life of Superman... I'm not sure why no one got this story, as
it's the story that automatically comes to mind when I think of ATAI
continuations. It's very good; Clark has to use his brains instead of his
brawn, Lex is his deliciously devious self (even with Asabi doing most of
the work), and the police actually are competent for a change, even if they
*do* lose Lex. :)

Story 9: "4X Lex - Almost," by Louette McInnes. I'm sure more expert FoLCs
will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this was the first fanfic that
included a young staff member of the Planet who was obsessed with Clark.

Story 10: "Mindbender," by Kendra Prince. A good story with a coerced
scientist, Lois at her strong-willed best, and, of course, Lex.

Wendy got answers 1, 2, 3, 7, 9, 10, and gave the right answer, but wrong
part of the three-parter, for number 4. Squeaking into first place by half
a point -- congratulations, Wendy!

Pam Jernigan got answers 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, and 10.

Diyan got answers 1, 3, 4, 6, and 7.

Interesting how you divided that neatly between the three of you!

Hope you all enjoyed this! Coming up next week: the Crossover Quiz!!

Hazel
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On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 02:09:13 -0400 Sandy McDermin <smcdermin@EROLS.COM>
wrote:

> Ara Swanson wrote:
> <SNIP>

>> I also loved the lingo and have a little bit of trouble trying to
decipher it myself. Does anybody know what a cooker with hob is?  The
cooker is a stove, right? But so far I don't have a clue what a hob is.

> Well, according to my trusty British --> American, American -->
British website (http://www.peak.org/~jeremy/dictionary/dict.html),
you're right, a cooker is a stove and a hob is:

> hob (n): flat top of cooker, hot plate. (Perhaps pilot lights are
under them? she asks.) <

Only if they _have_ pilot lights <g>. A hob in this context ("cooker
and ~") can also be the unit that contains one or more hot-plates
(usually four), and they can be gas or electric. I'm not quite sure
what Wendy meant in that passage, but it sounds to me like she was
describing a typical kitchen installation with separate (usually
wall-mounted) oven(s) and hob -- or it could have been an all-in-one
stove with the hob on top.

Now that I come to think of it, are separate ovens and hot-plates
common on the other side of the Pond? Don't think I've ever heard them
mentioned, and I can't remember seeing any on screen -- but I probably
just didn't notice.

If Wendy's managed/bothered to read this far <g>, let me say that I
thought the story was great. I wouldn't watch EastEnders if they paid
me (well, maybe if I got something worthwhile in return -- like, say, a
complete set of un-cut L&C videos <g> -- but I'd still take a book),
but it's impossible to live over here and not know at least something
about the show because of the ceaseless bombardment of trivia in the
media (especially that owned by Rupert Murdoch!), so I wasn't sitting
there saying, "Huh? Who is this nut?" when Grant/Nick/whoever came in.
You haven't converted me, but this story stands on its own merits, and
they are many.

I particularly loved all the little references to other stuff -- Star
Wars, Bugs Bunny and the like -- and using the Doctor to get L&C to
London E20 was a refreshing change from H.G. Wells or Tempus. Did you
choose Tom Baker's Doctor because he's probably the best-known
incarnation, especially in the States, or do you just like him? I'd
have chosen Sylvester McCoy myself, but that's mostly because I'd want
Ace along as well. Can you imagine a meeting between Lois and Ace?
<g> Can you imagine the pair of them getting in trouble together?! <vbg>

[At this point, I have to admit to some bias. I was lucky enough to
meet, chat with and spend several hours on stage with Sophie Aldred,
the actress who played Ace, when we were both guests at a recent SF
con. I always liked Ace, and Sophie is a delightful person.]

A (very) minor nit-pick: has the Doctor _ever_ referred to himself as
"Doctor Who"? My impression is that he hasn't; he's just "The Doctor",
and the Who bit was intended to add a little mystery (as though more
were needed) to the character.

Anyway, lovely (or should that be luv-er-ly? <g>) stuff, Wendy.

Phil
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In a message dated 8/6/99 3:57:09 AM Central Daylight Time,
Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK writes:

<< nly if they _have_ pilot lights <g>. A hob in this context ("cooker
 and ~") can also be the unit that contains one or more hot-plates
 (usually four), and they can be gas or electric. I'm not quite sure
 what Wendy meant in that passage, but it sounds to me like she was
 describing a typical kitchen installation with separate (usually
 wall-mounted) oven(s) and hob -- or it could have been an all-in-one
 stove with the hob on top. >>

Ah, I think you're talking about what we simply call "the stove".  It's also
called a "range top". In the Eyes Have It when Superman is cooking, he has
his hand on one of the "burners" (hot plates) of the stove (range top).
Usually there are four burners on a stove (gas or electric) and usually two
small and two large burners. Thanks for the visual description, Phil.

Zoomway@aol.com (differences between British lingo and American lingo sure
plays hob with trying to figure things out ;)
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Awright mate!

Well, I must say it was quite a surprise to come in this morning and
find so many complimentary replies on what I posted as a joke fic
and thought might get largely ignored (I certainly have no intention
even of sending it to the Archive) . I've read a number of crossovers
- enjoyed a few too (please, everyone, look out for a *fantastic*
crossover fic called 'Timeless' which is due to hit the Archive
soon). All of them, though, relate to other American TV programmes;
so I started wondering what a British crossover might look like.
EastEnders came to mind because it's one of the most popular
programmes over here, and as a typical British soap it's almost as
unlike L&C as you can get ;)  Dr Who, I have to admit, was a plot
device to get them there...

> O
> O
> O
>
Kathy wrote:
> LOL Wendy!  Doctor Who ... I love it!  And from the description, the
> "unruly curly brown hair", I'm guessing it's my favorite Doctor, Tom
Baker?
>
Phil also asked why Tom Baker; the simple answer is because he and
Tom Pertwee were the Doctors I grew up watching, and as such they
will always be my favourites. Tom Baker was just easier to write ;)

Phil said:
> A (very) minor nit-pick: has the Doctor _ever_ referred to himself
> as "Doctor Who"? My impression is that he hasn't; he's just "The
> Doctor", and the Who bit was intended to add a little mystery (as
> though more were needed) to the character.

I couldn't honestly remember whether he'd ever referred to himself as
Dr Who or not, but... well, blame someone who hasn't watched it for
about 20 years!

Kathy asked:
> I didn't recognize any of the other characters, but it was still a fun
> read. Care to give the rest of us a list of where they came from?
>
Well... as UK FOLCs will know, they're all characters from
EastEnders, a thoroughly dismal (in a very British way) soap of life
among working-class people in a London borough. The Mitchells are the
(current) principal family; Grant is an ex-soldier, wife-beater,
all-round bully and ex-con. Nick Cotton is a junkie, mother-beater,
ex-con, thief and murderer (a very pleasant character, as you see!).
And Peggy Mitchell, Grant's mother, is indeed a blonde bombshell in a
previous existence (as Barbara Windsor, not as the character!)

> "With *Nicholas Cage*?" Lois ejaculated in appalled disgust. "How on
> earth could that weedy wimp play you? He doesn't even *look*
> like you."
> <<<<
>
> ROTFL! We all know EXACTLY how you feel, Lois! <g>

Well, yes; I couldn't resist that!
>
Kathy wrote:
> Grant half-turned. "Look, mate, I'm sure we appreciate what you did
> just now, but this is our business. We look after our own in the East
> End."
>
> <snip>
>
> He turned and walked away. As Grant had said, it was none of his
> business. He needed to get back to Lois, and find the Doctor.
>
> <<<<
>
> But he didn't butt out when Dot told him to ... Clark usually protects
even
> criminals.
>
Yes, I thought people might wonder at that. My rationale was like
this: Clark knew this wasn't his neighbourhood - not even his
universe. And he knew he was unlikely to be there for longer than a
few hours. So there was no point starting something he couldn't
finish (having Superman try to instil a better sense of ethics); and
he also got the very plain message that his intervention would not be
welcomed by the locals. And anyone who's ever seen Grant Mitchell
would understand that sense of 'not being welcome'!

So, Diyan, your interpretation was pretty close to the way I
rationalised it.

Incidentally, given Nick Cotton's past (see above) I had no qualms at
all about leaving him to Grant's mercies ;)

> August 5th ... sorry, Wendy, you know I have to tease you when you have
L&C
> talk Brit. ;)
>
Oh dear ;)

Phil said:
> I wouldn't watch EastEnders if they paid me [snip] I wasn't sitting
> there saying, "Huh? Who is this nut?" when Grant/Nick/whoever came
> in. You haven't converted me, but this story stands on its own
> merits, and they are many.

Well, I can't give you a complete set of uncut L&C videos, Phil (not
past Seasons Greedings at any rate, and I've already sent you those
;) ). But thank you for the compliment - from you I value it highly.

Yvonne said:
> Took me a little longer to cotton on when we landed in the square,
> but then I realised the significance of the title...LOL!

Hmmm... 'cotton', Yvonne? <g> Yes, the title should have thrown out a
hint...

LabRat said:
> Just one complaint - you missed a perfect opportunity to have our
> heroes encounter Walford's very own daring, reporting duo: Tony and
> Polly!! Remember that flash punk hairstyle?  I fondly remember that
> moment in Eastenders when someone they were digging up the dirt on
> (can't for the life of me remember who now) leaned over the cafe
> table and sneered "Well, look who it is - Lois and Clark!'. Can't
> you just imagine the real thing sitting at a table not too far
> distant at that very moment and looking appalled at being compared
> to those two scruffy mongrels?! <G>

LOL!! I must have missed that episode! I did sort of think of Polly
at one point, but I was running out of steam with the story (you'll
notice I glossed over their last couple of hours in Walford).

Hazel wrote, re. my use of Alderaan:
> I'm sure you didn't intend it that way, Wendy, but I'll take it as
> a bit of a salute. :)

You certainly should, Hazel; it was deliberately included as a nod to
you!

And Ara - I don't remember mentioning a cooker, or a hob, in the
story, but I'll gladly explain any such terminology to you if you
want. Good luck in arranging your accommodation in London!

Thanks to everyone who responded. I'm not doing anything more with
this particular visit to Walford, but if any UK-based FOLCs fancy
filling in those blank two hours, feel free!

Wendy
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Well, I guess it's time for the local news articles to begin.  A rather
cute picture accompanies this little snippet of today's gossipy "The
Reliable Source" column.  If Ms. H. does anything juicy or scandalous,
it will definitely appear here.  Currently, "The Source" is tracking the
tipping habits of visiting celebs.<g> (And, believe me, some of that
*is* scandalous.) So, tip high, Teri, tip high!

Sandy

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The Reliable Source
by Lloyd Grove
Friday, August 6, 1999; Page C03

Where the Rubbermaid Meets the Road

* We've heard of "living out of a suitcase." But Teri Hatcher and her 1
1/2-year-old daughter, Emerson Rose, have been living out of a plastic
box as they tour the country with "Cabaret."

"It's a big Rubbermaid trunk. Looks like a giant ice cooler," said
Hatcher, who opens Wednesday as Sally Bowles at the Warner Theatre. "I
keep most of my heavy stuff--books, shoes, candles and Emerson's
toys--in it, along with nine other suitcases. Actually, I am a light
traveler. But I feel obligated to make each city as familiar to Emerson
as possible. So I bring all of her toys and pictures, and hang them on
the walls."

Hatcher--whom we remember from ABC's "Lois & Clark: The New Adventures
of Superman"--longs for the New York home she shares with her husband,
actor Jon Tenney. And yet. "On the one hand, it's the most satisfying
professional experience you've ever had, and you hate to give up this
incredibly rich character. But on the other hand, you couldn't do it one
more day than your contract requires. It's been a pretty intense
journey."

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For those not familiar with the UK programmes referred to in Wits'
End, if you're interested in finding out a little more there are
sections on the BBC website dealing with both EastEnders and Doctor
Who.

The official EastEnders site is at
http://www.bbc.co.uk/eastenders/home.shtml
You'll find plot summaries and photos/biogs of the main characters.
You won't find Nick Cotton; he's an occasional recurring character
and hasn't been in the show for a year or so. Grant Mitchell is
there; the phot doesn't show him in his worst light <g> but he still
looks mildly thuggish. Interestingly, the actor who plays Grant seems
to be a darn nice guy ;)

The Doctor Who site can be found at http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/
There are profiles of all Doctors, and you'll find pictures of the
fourth Doctor, Tom Baker, who is the one I chose.

Wendy
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Today's theme for the Quiz is "Focus on Jimmy".

Jimmy is such a great character, and can be used in so many ways. He is
strong enough to stand on his own occasionally, he can be funny, he can
be a helpful sidekick to both Lois, Clark and Superman too.

I thought a versatile character like this deserves his own quiz.

All fanfics excerpted, can be found in the archive unlike my last quiz.

Enjoy!

Irene

1.
 "Olsen.  James Olsen."  Jimmy extends his hand confidently.  His
expression
is charming, his handshake is firm, but his mind grows as blank as an
elementary school chalkboard in summertime.  His jaw, locked in an open
position, anticipates words that his brain has yet to compose.

2.
Jimmy nudged Perry.  "Look, Chief!  There's Mindy McCready!  Man, is
she
hot!"  Jimmy let out a low whistle.

"Now, Jimmy....."

"Oh, there's her boyfriend."

"FiancŽ, son.  FiancŽ."

"That's not what The Whisper says.  They say ---" He stopped at the
look on
Perry's face.

"You mean to tell me that you read that birdcage liner of a rag?"

Jimmy flushed and hurried to explain.  "Well, uh, it's
like...well...Aw,
Chief.  I just skim it while I'm waiting in the checkout line at the
grocery
store."

3.
It was no use denying her feelings, she decided logically.  She had
fallen
for Jimmy, and fallen hard, too.  The moment she saw him, she had
sensed
that this was the man for her.  There could never be anyone else.  She
wasn't sure, but she thought he had felt something too.

As their conversation had progressed, she discovered that she liked
everything about him.  He was witty. He was intelligent, although he
hid it
well.  He was very cute, too. There was an openness about him, an
honesty
that she admired.  No repressing emotions for him.    He had such
enthusiasm and such a child-like enjoyment of the world around him.

4.
"Must be nice to have nothing to do."  Jimmy was loaded
down with file folders, photographs and video tapes.  He was
heading toward Perry's office, when he tripped over a loose
computer cable.
        "Jimmy, look out!"  Too late.
        "Nooooo..."  Everything went flying--Jimmy, the tapes,
the photos--everything!
        "Jimmy--are you okay?  Here, let me help."  Lois was
amazed at the mess he had made.  Poor guy.  Perry would be furious.
Down on her hands and knees, she failed to notice Mr. White and a
visitor entering the newsroom.  Scooping up piles of documents,
she stood up and dumped everything on her desk, and started sorting
out the stuff for Jimmy.  He was mortified.

5.

The young woman waited outside the airport terminal.  He said he would
meet
her here.  She brushed her right hand through her curly brown hair and
watched
the cars come and go.  She figured Jimmy Olsen would have a great
vehicle,
something quirky but professional.  After all, he was a full-fledged
reporter
for one of the world's largest newspapers now, a far cry from his
"gopher job"
of a couple of years ago.

The Lexus stopped a few feet ahead of her.  "Nah, too rich," she
thought.
"He just got the job a few months ago."  A yellow 1998 Volkswagen
Beetle
passed.  Her friend wasn't there.

"Jimmy, where are you?" she said to herself, tapping her foot.  A
somewhat
beaten-up 1969 Dodge Charger sputtered forward.  The woman recognized
the
young man inside.

6.
No-one said a word -- in fact, the uncharacteristic silence in the
newsroom was almost oppressive -- as she strode by. On her way to
her desk, her eyes, narrow and angry, scanned their surroundings,
visibly searching for something. She found it -- or, rather, him.
"Jimmy!" she snapped, demanding his immediate presence.

Jimmy twitched -- a cross between a flinch and a cringe -- at her
call. He was really unhappy about the supposed fight that he'd
witnessed a few minutes ago; after all, the point of fooling Lois
and Clark had been to get them together and make them both happy;
now, though, the whole thing seemed to have backfired horribly! He
came over to Lois to see her stuffing something into an envelope,
which she handed to him. "Give that to Perry, right now!"

"Uh... okay, Lois." Once he'd taken the envelope from her, she paid
him no further attention, pulling out a drawer from her desk and
starting to go through it, as though she were... *clearing it out?*

'Oh, no, she *can't* be... can she?' Jimmy was horrified. Could
Lois possibly be leaving the Planet? Was this her... resignation?
He *had* to know... "Uh, Lois..." he asked nervously, "What is
this?"

7.
 "Exceptional, Ms. Lane. A powerful piece."
    "Thank you, Mr. Olsen," Lois said, her voice sounding a bit
 fatigued."
    "Superman is serious about leaving Metropolis? Just living at
 some unspecified location?"
    "Well, he does feel he puts people at risk after the incident last
 night, and was disturbed by the fact that his neighborhood was
 fairly deserted because of his presence there. But," she added.
 "He assures me he's sincere in his promise to still keep watch
 over Metropolis."
    "It's a shame."  Olsen shook his head. "I wouldn't blame him if
 he took up one of the dozens of cities on their offer to give him a
 home."

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In a message dated 8/6/99 1:10:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
smcdermin@EROLS.COM writes:

> So, I went surfing a little bit and came upon a very interesting website
>  called "The Dialectizer."  The way it works is, you put any amount of
>  text you want into a box, click the button, and it changes your passage
>  into that particular dialect.  I tried this with portions of "Love as a
>  Blonde" -- especially portions heavy with dialogue -- and it was simply
>  hilarious.

Sandy, this site is hilarious!  I tried itwith the phrase 'Now is the winter
of our discontent made glorious summer by this sun of York' (my favorite
"oh,
here's a keyboard to try out at the store" phrase).

The Pig Latin version (probably the least offensive in a mixed group<g> came
out like this:

Ownay isyay ethay interway ofyay ouryay iscontentday ademay oriousglay
ummersay ybay isthay unsay ofyay Yorkay

And here's the Swedish Chef:

Noo is zee veenter ooff oooor deescuntent mede-a glureeuoos soommer by thees
soon ooff Yurk

Maybe I'll translate 'Healing' into redneck next!

Piper (who seems to be so easily entertained these days...)
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PJ Piasecki wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/6/99 1:10:43 AM Central Daylight Time,
> smcdermin@EROLS.COM writes:
>
> > So, I went surfing a little bit and came upon a very interesting website
> >  called "The Dialectizer."  The way it works is, you put any amount of
> >  text you want into a box, click the button, and it changes your passage
> >  into that particular dialect.  I tried this with portions of "Love as a
> >  Blonde" -- especially portions heavy with dialogue -- and it was simply
> >  hilarious.
>
> Sandy, this site is hilarious!  I tried itwith the phrase 'Now is the
winter
> of our discontent made glorious summer by this sun of York' (my favorite
"oh,
> here's a keyboard to try out at the store" phrase).
>
> The Pig Latin version (probably the least offensive in a mixed group<g>
came
> out like this:
>
> Ownay isyay ethay interway ofyay ouryay iscontentday ademay oriousglay
> ummersay ybay isthay unsay ofyay Yorkay
>
> And here's the Swedish Chef:
>
> Noo is zee veenter ooff oooor deescuntent mede-a glureeuoos soommer by
thees
> soon ooff Yurk
>
> Maybe I'll translate 'Healing' into redneck next!
>
> Piper (who seems to be so easily entertained these days...)

Well, I have a snippet of "Love as a Blonde" where the "oh so very
British" Hillary Hartburn-Heath offers Lucinda Vane a "six-pack" instead
of a cup of coffee and Lois was described as having "married up wif"
Clark rather than being married to. Fry mah hide!<g>

I *won't* go any further, I promise.

Sandy
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In a message dated 8/6/99 4:57:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK writes:

<< Now that I come to think of it, are separate ovens and hot-plates
 common on the other side of the Pond? Don't think I've ever heard them
 mentioned, and I can't remember seeing any on screen -- but I probably
 just didn't notice. >>

Separate ovens and range tops are a design concept that comes and goes in
the
US.
They were very popular in new construction in the 60's, went out of style in
the 70's, came back in in the late 80's, and are still pretty popular in
large kitchens where there is room for a "kitchen island" in the middle of
the room.  The range top will often be on the island and the oven over on
the
wall somewhere with the cabinets.  Sometimes, though, the island is all
counter space and the range top is over on the wall with the cabinets as
well.

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At 11:49 AM 08/05/1999 -0400, Ann wrote:

>In a message dated 8/5/99 8:43:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Debby@SWCP.COM
>writes:
>
><< If all that means my cat won't be bothering me (his favorite perch is
>between
> me and my keyboard), I may take you up on your offer :) >>
>
>Debby,
>
>I think you and your cat need to  have a serious discussion about personal
>space.  As a cat, yours should understand the concept of people needing a
>certain amount of space at times.  Would you like my dog to explain this
fact
>of life to your cat? <g>

You've never been in the possession of a cat, have you? :)

>The area between one and one's keyboard should be sacrosanct, and your cat
>needs to allow you this space.

He does, except when he wants attention, which happens to be only about 99%
of
the time. One wonders what Lois would do in such a situation, then put
Clark in
the same situation. There's a little story there :)

>If the roles were reversed. I'm sure he/she
>would expect you to allow him/her to type in peace.  If this fails, Digger
>"knows guys who know guys."

Little's not afraid of no dogs.

Debby :)
Debby@swcp.com
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"Irene D." wrote:

> Today's theme for the Quiz is "Focus on Jimmy".
>

S
P
O
I
L
E
R

S
P
A
C
E

>

I have to check the archive to for the rest of these, I knew title or
author, but not both.  I did get two of them right off the bat though, and
since I'm only half awake right now I didn't think that was half bad.

> 3.
> It was no use denying her feelings, she decided logically.  She had
> fallen
> for Jimmy, and fallen hard, too.

Firestorm - By uh... who was it again? oh, yeah Irene D.

> 7.
>  "Exceptional, Ms. Lane. A powerful piece."
>     "Thank you, Mr. Olsen," Lois said, her voice sounding a bit
>  fatigued."
>

Always Something There to Remind Me  By Zoomway , I just got this one right
on Labrats Alt quiz.

Thanks for starting my Friday off on such  a good note.  Were you really
working on this quiz at 5:22 in the morning, or is that just what time my
e-mail program tagged it?

Cindy
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Hi Irene!

> Today's theme for the Quiz is "Focus on Jimmy".

Nice topic ;) I've got four so far; still racking my brain about the
others...
>
s
p
o
i
l
e
r

s
p
a
c
e

> 2.
> Jimmy nudged Perry.  "Look, Chief!  There's Mindy McCready!  Man, is
> she hot!"  Jimmy let out a low whistle.
>
LOL!  This one's from 'Stranger Things have Happened,' Julie Mack's
TUFS episode.

> 3.
> It was no use denying her feelings, she decided logically.  She had
> fallen for Jimmy, and fallen hard, too.

Sneaky, Irene!! 'Firestorm,' by... hmmm, I wonder who that could be ;)

>
> 5. The young woman waited outside the airport terminal.  He said he
would meet her here.

And another TUFS episode. 'Behind Every Woman,' by Kat Picson and
Craig Byrne.

>
> 7.
>  "Exceptional, Ms. Lane. A powerful piece."

Aha! Another Zoom, and I know it this time. 'Always Something There
to Remind Me.' A brilliant fic.

Wendy
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I know this one and as a long tern DW fan I would loose the card in my
wallet if I didn't! In the epi 'The Five Doctors' the Doctor introduces
himself as the Doctor and the person he's speaking to say "Who?" to which
the Doctor respondes, "Yes, exactly."  Slyvester Mc Coy is also a fav
'regeneration' of the Doctor and the picture you gave me of Ace showing Lois
how to make, and lob, trinitro-toleryne (her souped up version of TNT) gave
me my first real laugh of the day Thank you!  JT

> A (very) minor nit-pick: has the Doctor _ever_ referred to himself as
> "Doctor Who"? My impression is that he hasn't; he's just "The Doctor",
> and the Who bit was intended to add a little mystery (as though more
> were needed) to the character.
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On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 05:22:41 -0700 "Irene D." <sirenegold@YAHOO.COM>
wrote:
s
p
o
i
l
e
r

s
p
a
c
e

> 6.
> No-one said a word -- in fact, the uncharacteristic silence in the
> newsroom was almost oppressive -- as she strode by. On her way to
> her desk, her eyes, narrow and angry, scanned their surroundings,
> visibly searching for something. She found it -- or, rather, him.
> "Jimmy!" she snapped, demanding his immediate presence.
>

Late addition to my first entry - just recognised this one. Phil
Atcliffe's ingenious, WAFFy 'Much Ado About Nothing'.

Wendy
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In a message dated 8/6/99 9:04:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Debby@SWCP.COM
writes:

<< You've never been in the possession of a cat, have you? :) >>

Actually, I shared a house when I was in graduate school with a girl who
owned a cat and three kittens.  I got the distinct impression that no one
"possesses" a cat -- that cats possess you.  <g>  That cat certainly thought
she owned the house, and the yard, and ... you get the picture.

I have the impression that cats are a lot like teenagers -- they want what
they want when they want it on their terms because they are the center of
the
universe.  Am I right? :)

Actually, your cat could probably scare the socks off my dog:  he was
frightened by a kitten as a puppy, and I think it traumatized him.

Oh well, just trying to help, so that you can write more wonderful stuff.
(You'll notice I didn't mention any titles.:)

Ann
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        HI everyone,
                Only have a minute and then have to see which new leak in my
office is flooding the foyer...
        Got this,

> >         I received one not very nice mailing which mentioned 'verbosity'
> ...
>
> And, I want to make absolutely clear that this *wasn't* me.  (I know
> what a few of you probably thought,;) but you're thinking wrong.)
>
        and am confused. I guess it's an inside joke, at least I hope so
since believe me it was not Sandy who sent it. As I read Kathy's responce to
Farah I realized that I indavertantly skirted a rule by mentioning what was
a private email but I was, thanks Kathy, only using it as an example of how
damaging 'negitive only' feedback is. Mean people do suck Kathy and since I
couldn't think of any responce to this person that doesn't include some not
very nice sentiments of my own I deleted it and won't respond at all. Thanks
Irene, Sandy, Kathy, Labrat (if I forgot someone please accept deepest
apoligies from the sound of it we've got a river in the hall) I won't stop
writing, been doing it since I was liitle and couldn't I suspect stop if I
wanted to, and I won't stop sharing them. One negative person in a community
filled with such woderfully positive people won't chase me away. Fraid your
stuck with me (bg)  Floating away now.... JT
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On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:46:10 -0400 "Tylke, Judith"
<jtylke@FLSOUTHERN.EDU> wrote:

> I know this one and as a long tern DW fan I would loose the card in my
> wallet if I didn't! In the epi 'The Five Doctors' the Doctor introduces
> himself as the Doctor and the person he's speaking to say "Who?" to which
> the Doctor respondes, "Yes, exactly."

Judith, I had a sneaking suspicion when I wrote *my* version of the
Doctor that he had used such a way of not-quite-but-almost calling
himself Doctor Who once. Thanks for proving it to me!

(so you weren't quite right, Phil... still, nobody's perfect ;) )

Wendy

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Hi Jeanne!

That's very kind of you - and I will be sending more fic to the
Archive soon. But there is an editing backlog at the moment, so since
I already have three in the queue I'd rather wait until they clear.

But thanks for the compliment!

Wendy

> Dear Wendy
>
> If sending more of your wonderful fic to the list is being greedy. Please
> please be very greedy. Don't let the fact that you have several in the
> pipeline deter you from posting others
>
> Jeanne
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Wendy Richards [SMTP:ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK]
> Sent:   Friday, July 30, 1999 6:54 AM
> To:     LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
> Subject:        Re: Navigating Denial
>
>
> ,
>
>
> BTW, for those who have asked, I do intend to edit 'A Conscious
> Choice' to a PG or PG13 version, but not just yet; I currently have
> *three* stories at various stages in the Archive editing process, and
> I don't want to seem greedy by sending any more in!
>
>
> Wendy

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Wendy Richards
w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:47:36 +0200
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Hi everyone!
I found out that I had on my HD part one of a story by Leslie Cohen
titled "Life without Lois" (shouldn't be an alternate Clark thou....)
I can't find the website where I downloaded it and I really wish to
finish reading it!
Can someone HELP me please?
Thanks
--
Tedras
Blue Dragon
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Sorry everyone; I thought I was mailing Jeanne privately. That'll
teach me to check the 'To' box!

Wendy

On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:47:36 +0100 Wendy Richards
<ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK> wrote:

> Hi Jeanne!
[snip]
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Wendy Richards
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:22:49 +0100
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Hi Tedras,

Life Without Lois is on the AOL fanfic archive
http://members.aol.com/beth012400/fanfic.htm
It's still unfinished, and I have no idea how regularly it gets
updated (last time I checked there was nothing new). I am intrigued
by it as well and want to see how it's going to end!

Wendy

On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:47:36 +0200 Tedras <el.moro@AGORA.STM.IT> wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> I found out that I had on my HD part one of a story by Leslie Cohen
> titled "Life without Lois" (shouldn't be an alternate Clark thou....)
> I can't find the website where I downloaded it and I really wish to
> finish reading it!
> Can someone HELP me please?
> Thanks
> --
> Tedras
> Blue Dragon

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Wendy Richards
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:58:42 -0400
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From:         Phillip Atcliffe <Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK>
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On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 15:09:03 +0100 Wendy Richards
<ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 09:46:10 -0400 "Tylke, Judith"
> <jtylke@FLSOUTHERN.EDU> wrote:

>> I know this one and as a long term DW fan I would lose the card in
my wallet if I didn't! In the epi 'The Five Doctors' the Doctor
introduces himself as the Doctor and the person he's speaking to say
"Who?" to which the Doctor responds, "Yes, exactly." <<

> Judith, I had a sneaking suspicion when I wrote *my* version of the
Doctor that he had used such a way of not-quite-but-almost calling
himself Doctor Who once. Thanks for proving it to me!
(so you weren't quite right, Phil... still, nobody's perfect ;) ) <

Hey, I was _asking_, not laying down the law! <g>

Phil
------------------------------------------------------------
 Gravity is a Downer... So let's go flying!
   -- so sayeth Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk)
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:00:46 EDT
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Hi,
I was hoping someone could help me in locating a story. The name of it is
AKA
Daddy.  I don't know who the author of it is, but I heard it was a great
story, and that I should check it out.  I am new to this (a friend told me I
would love the stories) so sorry if I am doing something wrong.  I have
enjoyed everything I have read so far!!  Keep up the good work everyone, and
thanks in advance!!

Lori
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Lori Llorence wrote:

> Hi,
> I was hoping someone could help me in locating a story. The name of it is
AKA
> Daddy.  I don't know who the author of it is, but I heard it was a great
> story, and that I should check it out.  I am new to this (a friend told me
I
> would love the stories) so sorry if I am doing something wrong.  I have
> enjoyed everything I have read so far!!  Keep up the good work everyone,
and
> thanks in advance!!

Lori, you should check out the Archive.  If you don't have it, the URL is:
http.//lcfanfic.actwd.com/index.html

Nan Smith
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:23:59 +0100
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Hi Lori,

AKA Daddy is on the Archive, and it's part of a great series of
stories by Christy Kubit. I see Nan gave you the URL - happy reading!

Wendy

On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:00:46 EDT Lori Llorence <CreoleL@AOL.COM>
wrote:

> Hi,
> I was hoping someone could help me in locating a story. The name of it is
AKA
> Daddy.  I don't know who the author of it is, but I heard it was a great
> story, and that I should check it out.  I am new to this (a friend told me
I
> would love the stories) so sorry if I am doing something wrong.  I have
> enjoyed everything I have read so far!!  Keep up the good work everyone,
and
> thanks in advance!!
>
> Lori

----------------------
Wendy Richards
w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 12:29:32 EDT
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Wendy Wrote:
<< Hi Lori,
 AKA Daddy is on the Archive, and it's part of a great series of
 stories by Christy Kubit. I see Nan gave you the URL - happy reading! >>
Nan Wrote:
<<Lori, you should check out the Archive.  If you don't have it, the URL is:
http.//lcfanfic.actwd.com/index.html>>

Thanks to both of you!  I will look it up now!!

Lori
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Wendy Richards wrote:

> Hi Tedras,
> Life Without Lois is on the AOL fanfic archive
> http://members.aol.com/beth012400/fanfic.htm
> It's still unfinished, and I have no idea how regularly it gets
> updated (last time I checked there was nothing new). I am intrigued by
> it as well and want to see how it's going to end!
> Wendy

Thanks. I've already downloaded it and for what I can say I didn't have
read half part of it!
Thank you a lot!
p.s. are you sure it's unfinished?
--
Tedras
Blue Dragon
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 14:54:28 EDT
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In a message dated 08/06/1999 12:11:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
CreoleL@aol.com writes:

<< The name of it is AKA
 Daddy. >>

This is on the fanfic archive--search by title. And it came up in discussion
about one of the recent quizes.

--Laurie
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Wendy wrote:

(please, everyone, look out for a *fantastic*
>crossover fic called 'Timeless' which is due to hit the Archive
>soon).

Aw, beat me to it, Wendy! <g> Yup, I had the privilege of being one of the
proofers on this one and I'd definitely recommend snapping it up pronto as
soon as it appears on the Archive. It has some wonderfully waffy LNC moments
in it and is just a darned good tale.

Keep your eyes peeled, FoLCs!

LabRat :)
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 16:06:50 EDT
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Okay, the topic says it all ;) We got word that Dean did receive the
collection of nfic stories that was compiled, printed up and put into a
binder by Chris. She also wishes to thank Eileen for the double column
formatting. Here are the stories included:

And the Answer Isn't
Camping With Clark
Happy Birthday
Mirror Mirror
Myxzsplit (Nfic version)
The Nutmeg Stories
Plan 69 From Outer Space
Sugar and Spice
The Private Life of Clark Kent
Rubber Duckie
3 Capes to the Wind
Anniversary Waltz
Love as a Blonde
Heaven's Prisoners
Whisky Glaore

To the authors of these stories, I'm putting up a "Dean's Birthday Gift"
page, and would like to have a link on that page to your various stories.
Just give me the link and I'll include it. If you don't have a page or ftp
site, send me your story and I'll upload it to mine and put a link in that
way.

Also included in the present was the link to   <A
HREF="http://www.geocities.com/area51/meteor/7378/nfic.html">The Official
Lois & Clark nFic Directory</A>
(http://www.geocities.com/area51/meteor/7378/nfic.html)

Congrats folc, thanks Chris, and happy birthday, Dean ;)

Zoomway@aol.com
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:10:41 EDT
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In a message dated 8/6/99 10:50:57 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Attalanta
writes:

<< I hope you enjoy it, and please thank your friend for me, for
recommending
it to you. It's nice to hear that someone's enjoyed something I've written,
whether I hear it first- or second-hand <g>
  >>
Hi Christy,
I have just finished reading AKA Daddy, as well as the rest of your stories
in the archives (after reading AKA Daddy, I was blown away, so I couldn't
stop there!! ). I must say I am completely amazed at the way you have
captured the true essence of Lois and Clark!  I loved every story, and felt
weak in the knees reading Tango!! :-)  I must say, my friend was right, you
are a genius!!  Keep up the good work, and I can't wait for the next one!!

Lori
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:28:16 EDT
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Wonderful, Zoom.  It's nice to know we're sharing our thoughts with the man
who inspired everyone.  I'll bet Dean is amazed.        LaurieD
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Zoomway announced:
> We got word that Dean did receive the
> collection of nfic stories that was compiled, printed up and put into a
> binder

I don't want to be a spoilsport here ... but were author permissions
gathered beforehand?  I wrote a few small sections in some included
round robins and didn't know a thing about this until just now -- maybe
I was just too small a contributor to worry about.  I'm not upset (a bit
flustered but not upset), but I can see how someone might be.  When we
sign up to receive nfic, after all, one of the requirements is that we
promise not to redistribute the stories.  Is there an exception to that
rule in the case of celebrities?

When Season 5 was wrapping up, there was an idea floated of printing out
all the stories into a hard-copy zine.  A number of the authors
objected, for various reasons, and they had some good points.
Unfortunately I don't remember them in detail, just a vague uneasy
feeling.

Well, I'm not sure what I'm saying, and this after the fact, but I just
had to express my concerns, so we can have clear expectations for the
next time someone thinks of a similar project.
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 17:45:00 EDT
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In a message dated 8/6/99 4:28:42 PM Central Daylight Time, DUNNFOUR@aol.com
writes:

> Wonderful, Zoom.  It's nice to know we're sharing our thoughts with the
man
>  who inspired everyone.  I'll bet Dean is amazed.        LaurieD
>

He's probably terrified! <g>

Piper
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In a message dated 8/6/99 4:43:00 PM Central Daylight Time,
jernigan@BELLSOUTH.NET writes:

<< I don't want to be a spoilsport here ... but were author permissions
 gathered beforehand?  I wrote a few small sections in some included
 round robins and didn't know a thing about this until just now -- maybe
 I was just too small a contributor to worry about. >>

I asked Chris, and she said she contacted the author's individually for
permission to include their stories.  She does apologize to you though, Pam,
because the RR writers were on IRC and that's where she asked their
permission to be included in the gift to Dean, but she realized belatedly
that you (and two others) were not there. She tried to be so careful to
choose round robin stories where authors were still active in writing fanfic
and nfic and not those who had said they were no longer interested.  Then
when we were gathered on IRC, Chris asked if any of us had an objection to
the particular RRs being included, we said no, and unfortunately she
discovered after the fact (sending the gift to Dean) that three participants
had not been there. She feels horrible about the oversight, though said
fans'
real names were not used and none of their e-mail addresses were posted with
the RR stories. She realizes that doesn't forgive the oversight, but hopes
it
makes you feel a little more at ease over the mistake.

I think sometimes there's such an open atmosphere on RRs since we're writing
in front of several people, many of whom we don't even know and who could
log
the channel and thus the story, that perhaps we're not as mindful as we
should be. Also, one was *my* typo. The RR nfic that was sent was "Mirror
Image" and NOT Mirror Mirror (the S6 episode)  Sorry, I have a Star Trek
default setting on my fingers ;)

Again, Pam, Chris is very sorry and said she'd be writing you as well.

Zoomway@aol.com
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>Okay, the topic says it all ;) We got word that Dean did receive the
>collection of nfic stories that was compiled, printed up and put into a
>binder by Chris. She also wishes to thank Eileen for the double column
>formatting. Here are the stories included:
>
>And the Answer Isn't
>Camping With Clark
>Happy Birthday
>Mirror Mirror
>Myxzsplit (Nfic version)
>The Nutmeg Stories
>Plan 69 From Outer Space
>Sugar and Spice
>The Private Life of Clark Kent
>Rubber Duckie
>3 Capes to the Wind
>Anniversary Waltz
>Love as a Blonde
>Heaven's Prisoners
>Whisky Glaore

Great stories, some of my favorites are on this listing!  (not all, mind you
<g>)

>Also included in the present was the link to   <A
>HREF="http://www.geocities.com/area51/meteor/7378/nfic.html">The >Official
>Lois & Clark nFic Directory</A>
>(http://www.geocities.com/area51/meteor/7378/nfic.html)

Great idea!  Okay, everyone, make sure you look for a *new* sign on <VBG>

>Congrats folc, thanks Chris, and happy birthday, Dean ;)

My sentiments exactly!  Great job!

>Zoomway@aol.com

And thank you Zoom, for bringing us the news!

KathR

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In a message dated 08/06/1999 5:28:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
DUNNFOUR@aol.com writes:

<<  I'll bet Dean is amazed.  >>

Perhaps stunned if he had little idea what to expect...

--Laurie (the Ord one)
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Well, I'm very glad to hear that I was all worried over nothing :)  And
I hope Dean enjoys his present ... it must be very strange to have
complete strangers manhandling your body like that <g>

> The RR nfic that was sent was "Mirror
> Image" and NOT Mirror Mirror (the S6 episode)

I suspected as much <g> and they do have a similar premise, after all.

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Hi everyone,

Because of  work, travel, minifests and various and sundry other things, L&C
Fanfic is taking a vacation this week ;).  But we will be back writing next
week so join us then :)

TTYS,
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:21:09 -0600
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At 10:00 AM 08/06/1999 -0400, Ann wrote:

>In a message dated 8/6/99 9:04:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Debby@SWCP.COM
>writes:
>
><< You've never been in the possession of a cat, have you? :) >>
>
>Actually, I shared a house when I was in graduate school with a girl who
>owned a cat and three kittens.  I got the distinct impression that no one
>"possesses" a cat -- that cats possess you.  <g>  That cat certainly
thought
>she owned the house, and the yard, and ... you get the picture.

I have a coffee-table-book full of such pictures :) I could show slides, too
(metaphorically speaking)

>I have the impression that cats are a lot like teenagers -- they want what
>they want when they want it on their terms because they are the center of
the
>universe.  Am I right? :)

Yes. They never grow up and they never go out and get jobs. The only good
thing
is thta they never ask for the car keys ;)

>Actually, your cat could probably scare the socks off my dog:  he was
>frightened by a kitten as a puppy, and I think it traumatized him.

When I was young I had a kitten who, when he did something bad, would run
and
hid under our bulldog. Another time we had a cat who would sleep on our dog
on
cold winter nights (the dog slept out in the garage in a box with lots of
rags
and blankets... and the cat ;) (there was also another dog, but sometimes
the
older dog would kick him out)

This is where stories for young CK and Lois come from...

Debby :)
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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 22:10:19 -0500
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At 2:48 AM -0500 8/6/99, Hazel wrote:

>Story 8: "The Long Road to Utopia," by Michael Ring. Clark hadn't planned
>on ending up shackled to a wall right after proposing to Lois, but it's all
>a day in the life of Superman... I'm not sure why no one got this story, as
>it's the story that automatically comes to mind when I think of ATAI
>continuations. It's very good;

I agree! This is a story that's been around for awhile, but I still
remember it as a favorite.  Without giving too many spoilers, I love the
conversation "Superman" has with Lois in the car near the end of the story.
He can't talk to her as Clark because Jimmy is there, but his way around
that is funny and sweet all at once. :)  (And you just gotta love those
"Lois choose Clark over Superman in front of others" moments. ;))

>Story 9: "4X Lex - Almost," by Louette McInnes. I'm sure more expert FoLCs
>will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this was the first fanfic that
>included a young staff member of the Planet who was obsessed with Clark.

I second this recommendation also.  Another good story.

Kathy (who's enjoying these quizzes ... especially the fact that everyone
has the answers before she reads the quiz so she doesn't have to send her
guesses and ruin her reputation as knowing all the stories by heart. ;))

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Date:         Fri, 6 Aug 1999 20:42:37 -0700
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><<  I'll bet Dean is amazed.  >>
>
>Perhaps stunned if he had little idea what to expect...
>

Anyway we can find out Dean's reaction?  I would *love* to hear about that.

Also, was it delivered personally into his hands?  Or, I guess my question
is, how do we know for sure that Dean is actually in possession of (and
hopefully can't put down!!) the packet?

Just *really* curious, and can't wait to hear his reaction!

Ara :o)
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Date:         Sat, 7 Aug 1999 12:10:09 +0100
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S
P
O
I
L
E
R

S
P
A
C
E

Hey gang!

This one hooked me as I was downloading it to disk. Well, Clark in pain and
wounded was guaranteed to get my attention, wasn't it? <g> And after reading
the first para, I just had to keep going.

Deathfic isn't generally a genre I enjoy, but there are exceptions and I
would definitely recommend not being put off by the premise. I'm also a
sucker for twists in the tale and this one has them in spades. My only
disappointment with it was that I felt that we speeded up towards the end
and began to rush towards a conclusion - as though the writer felt that he
(she? Don't know why I feel it's a he) was running out of time.

There is some very nice narrative, which I won't spoil by quoting it here.
Suffice it to say the mind picture of Clark in the Arctic and what he did
there will stay with me for a long time. I was worried for our boy there for
a time, but I was delighted that he came through in the end - no matter how
hard the decision was (trying not to spoil things in advance here!).

All in all, a very satisfying read. Go check it out.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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"The Right Hon was a tubby little chap who looked as though he had been
poured into his clothes and had forgotten to say "When!"  -- PG Wodehouse,
Very Good, Jeeves.

"We're living in an age where you have to call a chick and ask her if she'll
wear a dress tonight. And they say, "You're weird."  --- Tim Rose.
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I tried a bit of Merry-Go-Round in this -- one that really
tickled me was the redneck version, which ended with:
"Unlike thet Scardetto varmint, who'dn't take no fo' an
answer."

Varmint -- what a wonderfully appropriate name for
Scardino <g>

Thanks for passing this page along, Sandy - it's
hilarious!!!

Peace
looking forward
to reading Healing
in Elmer Fudd <g>
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> Hey, Wendy,

Why aren't you going to post this to the Archive?  So what if it's a joke?
Lois
and Clark (and your) fans deserve to read this one!  Remember, comedy was an
integral part of the show!

Come on!  Don't be a spoilsport!

Nan
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Just let me add my encouragement to Nan's.  I will admit that a lot of
the UK inside jokes went right over my head as I've never watched
Eastenders, but the humour was still there for me, as was the excellent
writing.

Come on, Wendy.  Submit it!  It's a cute story, and deserves to be part
of the archive.  And I'm not just saying that because I'm your number
one fan. ;)

Irene

--- Nancy Smith <deimos1@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
> > Hey, Wendy,
>
> Why aren't you going to post this to the Archive?
> So what if it's a joke?  Lois
> and Clark (and your) fans deserve to read this one!
> Remember, comedy was an
> integral part of the show!
>
> Come on!  Don't be a spoilsport!
>
> Nan
>

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Date:         Sat, 7 Aug 1999 10:23:45 -0500
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At 12:10 PM +0100 8/7/99, LabRat wrote:
>S
>P
>O
>I
>L
>E
>R
>
>S
>P
>A
>C
>E
>
>This one hooked me as I was downloading it to disk. Well, Clark in pain and
>wounded was guaranteed to get my attention, wasn't it? <g> And after
reading
>the first para, I just had to keep going.
>
>Deathfic isn't generally a genre I enjoy,

For me, after reading the first paragraph, I sat back in my chair and said
"ho hum, another deathfic... oh joy."  However, by about a page in, I had
launched forward in my seat going "Wow!" <g>  This really was a good story.

I wrote the description myself because I wanted to convey to people not to
pass on it just because it looks like a deathfic ... there are enough
twists and turns to keep you more than interested!  I really enjoyed this
story and wrote the writer even before I assigned it to be edited to tell
her how great it was. :)

I do agree about the ending feeling rushed, though.  I got the same feeling.

Oh, and I think the author is a "she", btw.  Not sure if she's on the
fanfic listserv or not ... this is the first entry from this author that I
can remember, and I hope she keeps writing. :)  So send that feedback to
her personally, just in case -- always a good policy.  Just forward the
list post; her address in on the fanfic. :)

Kathy (who loves seeing reviews on stories on the list! :))

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--- Kathy Brown <kathyb@SPRINGNET1.COM> wrote:
> At 12:10 PM +0100 8/7/99, LabRat wrote:
> >S
> >P
> >O
> >I
> >L
> >E
> >R
> >
> >S
> >P
> >A
> >C
> >E
> >
> >This one hooked me as I was downloading it to disk.
> Well, Clark in pain and
> >wounded was guaranteed to get my attention, wasn't
> it? <g> And after reading
> >the first para, I just had to keep going.
> >
> >Deathfic isn't generally a genre I enjoy,

I agree with you there.
>
>
> For me, after reading the first paragraph, I sat
> back in my chair and said
> "ho hum, another deathfic... oh joy."  However, by
> about a page in, I had
> launched forward in my seat going "Wow!" <g>  This
> really was a good story.
>
> I wrote the description myself because I wanted to
> convey to people not to
> pass on it just because it looks like a deathfic ...
> there are enough
> twists and turns to keep you more than interested!
> I really enjoyed this
> story and wrote the writer even before I assigned it
> to be edited to tell
> her how great it was. :)
>
> I do agree about the ending feeling rushed, though.
> I got the same feeling.
>
> Oh, and I think the author is a "she", btw.  Not
> sure if she's on the
> fanfic listserv or not ... this is the first entry
> from this author that I
> can remember, and I hope she keeps writing. :)  So
> send that feedback to
> her personally, just in case -- always a good
> policy.  Just forward the
> list post; her address in on the fanfic. :)
>
> Kathy (who loves seeing reviews on stories on the
> list! :))

Let me also add my recommendation to Labrat's and Kathy's.  This was a
very well-written piece - a wonderful mix of pathos, and hope.  The
treatment of Clark's anguish was very believable and the plot had
enough twists and turns to be a race track!

I too hope to see more from this writer and have written to tell
her/him ? so.  I urge you all to do the same. I also mentioned this
list to the writer. It is always possible that people are still not
aware that we exist. Hopefully we'll have a new member join us.

Irene D.
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Date:         Sat, 7 Aug 1999 11:22:04 -0500
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Kathy, Where is this story. I'd like to read it
merry

Kathy Brown wrote:

> At 12:10 PM +0100 8/7/99, LabRat wrote:
> >S
> >P
> >O
> >I
> >L
> >E
> >R
> >
> >S
> >P
> >A
> >C
> >E
> >
> >This one hooked me as I was downloading it to disk. Well, Clark in pain
and
> >wounded was guaranteed to get my attention, wasn't it? <g> And after
reading
> >the first para, I just had to keep going.
> >
> >Deathfic isn't generally a genre I enjoy,
>
> For me, after reading the first paragraph, I sat back in my chair and said
> "ho hum, another deathfic... oh joy."  However, by about a page in, I had
> launched forward in my seat going "Wow!" <g>  This really was a good
story.
>
> I wrote the description myself because I wanted to convey to people not to
> pass on it just because it looks like a deathfic ... there are enough
> twists and turns to keep you more than interested!  I really enjoyed this
> story and wrote the writer even before I assigned it to be edited to tell
> her how great it was. :)
>
> I do agree about the ending feeling rushed, though.  I got the same
feeling.
>
> Oh, and I think the author is a "she", btw.  Not sure if she's on the
> fanfic listserv or not ... this is the first entry from this author that I
> can remember, and I hope she keeps writing. :)  So send that feedback to
> her personally, just in case -- always a good policy.  Just forward the
> list post; her address in on the fanfic. :)
>
> Kathy (who loves seeing reviews on stories on the list! :))
>
> ______________________
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well, us wendy's number one fans *do* need to stick together - post it, oh
great and talented author :)

Melisma

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At 08:17 AM 08/07/1999 -0700, you wrote:
>Just let me add my encouragement to Nan's.  I will admit that a lot of
>the UK inside jokes went right over my head as I've never watched
>Eastenders, but the humour was still there for me, as was the excellent
>writing.
>
>Come on, Wendy.  Submit it!  It's a cute story, and deserves to be part
>of the archive.  And I'm not just saying that because I'm your number
>one fan. ;)
>
>Irene
>
>--- Nancy Smith <deimos1@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
>> > Hey, Wendy,
>>
>> Why aren't you going to post this to the Archive?
>> So what if it's a joke?  Lois
>> and Clark (and your) fans deserve to read this one!
>> Remember, comedy was an
>> integral part of the show!
>>
>> Come on!  Don't be a spoilsport!
>>
>> Nan
>>
>
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Hi I am currently making a webpage to include some infor on this charactor
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Thanks
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At 11:22 AM -0500 8/7/99, timothy truitt wrote:
>Kathy, Where is this story. I'd like to read it
>merry

On the Archive; it was uploaded last weekend ... see URL below.  I suggest
always checking there first.  Alternatively, check the listserv archive if
the story was posted here and you somehow missed it.  But in this case, it
can be found on the Archive.

Kathy

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Date:         Sat, 7 Aug 1999 18:33:53 -0700
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Oops,  we've found an error in our list of eligible stories.  The round
robin story "Myxed Signals"  was actually posted in January of this
year, and is not eligible for the 1999 nKerth awards.  It will be
eligible for the 2000 nKerths.

Sorry for the mix-up and I hope this hasn't inconvenienced anyone.

Thanks,
Irene
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