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In a message dated 05/31/1999 9:30:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Debby@SWCP.COM writes:

<< I'm so encouraged that I plan to upload
 Day 2
 to the list and my site on Thursday, okay, everyone? >>

We have to wait THAT long? <whine>

--Laurie
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From:         Wendy Richards <ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK>
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Nice work, RR writers! This was a cute one, and I particularly liked
the scene at the end which nodded back to the end of BY.

What I want to know is... when are *we* going to be able to read
Lois's short stories <g>?

Wendy
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I noticed in the Internet Movie Database that they do not have the info on
Dean's appearance on LIFE GOES ON.

Also that movie FOR THE CAUSE, is it a movie made for TV or the big screen?

Also I heard Dean has finished making several movies.  Any idea when any of
them will be airing on TV/released in movie theatres.

Sue

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Does any Southern Ontario, Canada FoLC know if this show is in reruns
here?   This sounds like a great episode to tape but I can't find it in
the TV guide.  That doesn't always mean anything.  I've been known to
miss stuff in there before.

Thanks,
Irene

--- Bob or Chris Mulder <mulders@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote:
> Hi, FoLCs,
>
> I happened to notice that the PAX cable channel is
> once again airing
> Life Goes On.  This past Saturday they showed part
> one of the
> Hawaiian trip story, which means that this coming
> Saturday (June 5th)
> they will show Dean's episode.  If you haven't seen
> this yet, you owe
> it to yourself to check it out.  <g>  There's a shot
> of Dean coming out
> of the surf to the tune of the theme from 2001, and
> then there's the
> dancing in the loin cloth and palm leaf headdress.
> <vbg>  I had part of
> this episode on tape to show at one of our local
> Fests, and it was a big
> hit, as you can imagine.  I'm looking forward to
> getting the whole thing
> on tape this time.
>
> In my part of the world (Eastern U.S.) Life Goes On
> airs from 5-6 p.m.
> Check your local listings for times in your area.
>
> --Chris
>
>
>
>  mailto:mulders@mindspring.com
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If you think thats bad, here in Vancouver, Canada transit is $3.00 in rush
hour
to travel 3 zones, the distance from a suburb to downtown (or about 20
miles).
Within downtown core $1.50. Definately not a money saver. Of course
converted
over to American dollars about $2.05 for 3 zones and about .95 cents for
downtown travel, doesn't sound so bad when you put it that way.

BTW - My name is Rob, I live in Vancouver, Canada (not really too hard to
guess
that) and I am very new to this type of mailing list(so be gentle).  So far
though I have really enjoyed reading the different notes and stories. I
really
look forward to participating more in the future and reading some really
great
stories to come.

Rob
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"Ann E. McBride" <Aerm1@AOL.COM> on 05/31/99 08:03:55 PM

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In a message dated 5/31/99 9:30:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Debby@SWCP.COM
writes:

<< 'm sorry.  This is my bugaboo.  Mass transit *should* be 50 cents, then
 >maybe it would truly attract the masses.
  >>

Here in Louisville, if you buy bus tickets from TARC (the transit company),
they are 50 cents.  You have to buy 10 of them at a time, but if you use the
bus much, it is a bargain.  I have no idea how much the bus is at peak times
without tickets, because I don't often use it.  I keep tickets around the
house for my kids and their friends.  Tickets for kids and senior citizens
are 40 cents.  You can get free transfers but only to a different route and
only for a few hours.  Of course, Louisville isn't exactly New York or LA.

Ann
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First to the Round Robin authors, thanks for a wonderful story. These
insider peeks into Lois and Clark's lives are just what a fan loves to read.
When I read stories like this I feel as if the show has never gone off the
air and I can "see" the action in my minds eye. If you haven't had a chance
to read this yet, please do so. As always, the group has done an excellent
job.

S
P
O
I
L
E
R

S
P
A
C
E

You FoLCs have really outdone yourselves. The scenes here were funny, and
touching and sad and poignant. I think you also came up with a few plot
ideas for future fanfic. I think this one story has contained more premises
for future fan fic than any other I can think of. I don't know if you
planned it this way but you certainly created a gold mine of new ideas for
authors to investigate. Maybe you plan this for future round robins?

One that struck me as perfect for a future fic is the story about Clark and
his Aunt Laura and the trip to Cairo. Another is the circumstances
surrounding her death a year later, it sounds like something very life
changing for Clark. Also, I think any stories about the "suppers" and
"dinners" with his grandparents would be a good, fun topic. For something
very touching and sad, the circumstances surrounding the presentation of the
embroidered sampler would be excellent.

Thanks again, for the excellent work. You and your editors are wonderful.

Ray Reynolds
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<< << I'm so encouraged that I plan to upload
  Day 2
  to the list and my site on Thursday, okay, everyone? >> >>

YES!!!!!
I love it, but you knew that. After all I love detail and have said so ad
nauseum.

Charlotte
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Title: Starfire and Sunstorm Part One - Caroline
Part: 1 of 2
Author: Irene Dutchak sirenegold@yahoo.com
Rating: PG
Feedback: All feedback, public and private is welcome.

I have been working on this fanfic for quite some time now and suddenly
realised that part one can stand on its own.  There are more parts to
come but...life is getting busier all the time and who knows when I'll
get to them!This is a sequel to "Firestorm" and "Broccoli Dancing".
Thank you to everyone for all their wonderful feedback.  I would also
like to offer belated thanks to Wendy Richards for her editorial
assistance with my two previous stories.

All standard disclaimers apply.

Starfire and Sunstorm           Irene Dutchak
Part One - Caroline

"Clark, I'm really worried about Jimmy."  Lois emerged from the
bathroom ready for bed wearing her favourite sleep shirt.

"Me too, honey."  Fully dressed, Clark headed past her to make his own
bedtime preparations, only to exit a couple of seconds later wearing
his bathrobe. "He did so well after Lee left.  I don't understand why
he's falling apart now."

"Even though he doesn't want to talk about whatever is bothering him,
at least he still comes over and helps with the boys.  I really
appreciate the extra help, especially when you have to go ... you
know." She motioned with her hand. " I'll be glad when I'm not so tired
all the time." She sat down on the edge of the bed.

 "I don't remember you being quite so tired when you were carrying the
twins." Clark sat down beside her and started massaging her low back.

"I know. And I never had this back pain either."  Lois shifted slightly
to give Clark better access to her sore muscles.

"What does Dr. Swanson say?"

"He says this is normal."  Lois looked slightly guilty. "And I know I
shouldn't have bugged her, she's not my doctor anymore,  but I called
Caroline too.  I felt better when she told me the same thing."

"How's she doing?"  Clark applied a tiny amount of heat with his heat
vision to the small of her back.

Lois stretched and pushed back against the pressure of Clark's hands.
"She's getting tired of not being able to see her feet.  But other than
that, she seems to be doing okay. Dr. Swanson said that he'd induce her
if she doesn't deliver by the end of this week.  I'm a bit envious.
The end is in sight for her.  I don't know how I'm going to be able to
wait for another six months.  At least I'm not carrying twins this
time."

Clark grinned. "I don't know, honey.  Twin girls might have been nice.
We'd have a matched set then."

Lois turned to face Clark. "Bite your tongue, Kent.  You might not need
as much sleep as me, but I know you went through major sleep
deprivation too."

He laughed.  "Speaking of sleep, we better do some of that while we
can.  Who knows what time the boys will be up tomorrow?"

Lois grimaced. "I never thought I would become one of those 'early to
bed, early to rise' people." She crawled under the covers.  Clark
turned out the lights, and joined her, snuggling into her back, and
wrapping his arms around her.  He lightly caressed her abdomen.

"So, did Caroline say how Bernie's holding out?"

Lois giggled.  "It sounds like he's driving her crazy, fussing over her
all the time.  I think it's kind of sweet."

Clark laughed, "He is pretty excited about being a dad."

Lois yawned.  "Good night, Clark."  She twisted around to face him.  "I
love you."

"I love you too, honey."  He leaned in for a kiss.  "Let's hope the
kids aren't up tonight."

"Oh, let's hope.  It would be great to get a full eight hours."  Lois
yawned again.

***

Lois and Clark emerged from the elevator into the hustle and bustle of
the Daily Planet newsroom.

Lois laughed. "You know, I never thought that I would need to come into
work to get some time to relax."

Clark grinned.  "Our boys are pretty active, aren't they?"

They looked at each other in amusement, mentally reliving the morning
chaos as they had all tried to get ready at once.

Lois and Clark were lucky.  The Daily Planet had finally started its
own daycare centre.  Their boys had been two of the first to be
enrolled in it.  It was an ideal arrangement for a working couple.
They both made a point of visiting the boys as often as possible in the
course of their day.

Their working days were different now.  Before they had children, Lois
and Clark had thought nothing of working late, but those days were long
gone.  On occasion, they would take files home to read after the boys'
bedtime, but they tried not to do it too often.  They both jealously
guarded their free time.

Perry emerged from his office.  "Lois, Clark, in my office.  Now."  He
stalked back to his desk, not waiting to see if they were obeying.

Lois and Clark entered Perry's domain and sat down across from him.

"What's up, Perry?" Lois asked.

Perry shifted uncomfortably in his chair.  "Uh, well ...  oh heck - I'm
not going to beat around the bush.  I'm worried about Jimmy.  He's been
off his game for a while now.  Do either of you have any clue what's
going on with him?"

Lois leaned forward in her chair slightly. "We've been worried about
him too, Perry.  He still comes around to our place a lot to help and
visit with the boys, but he's not talking about whatever is bothering
him."

Perry looked down at his desk. "I'm kind of hoping that you two could
give it another shot at straightening him out.  Whatever it is, it's
affecting his work.  He's not getting the job done.  I thought he would
smarten up when I transferred him back to Research but it hasn't
happened yet.  I've been letting it slide, but I can't keep doing
that."

"Perry, what are you saying?  Jimmy's like a son to you!" Lois
exclaimed.  She opened her mouth to continue, but Clark interrupted,
"We'll give it another try, Perry.  How long before you have to ... do
anything official?"

Perry's eyes glistened with emotion.  "About a week.  And Lois, don't
think that I wouldn't do it if I had to. There's only so much I can
ignore."

"Okay, Perry," Lois said.  "We'll do our best."

She and Clark left Perry's office and moved to their desks.  They sat
in a somber silence. A moment later, Jimmy approached them with a pile
of file folders under his arm. His face downcast, he avoided their
eyes.

"Here's that research you wanted, guys."  He turned to walk away.

Lois and Clark looked at each other.  Using a series of intricate
facial expressions, Lois made it quite clear to Clark that she wanted
him to try talking to Jimmy.  Clark nodded, in resignation and got to
his feet.

"Jimmy, wait a minute.  I want to talk to you."

Jimmy stopped in his tracks.  Still facing away from Clark, he asked,
"What about, CK?"

Clark laid his hand on Jimmy's shoulder.  Jimmy flinched at the touch.
"Jimmy, what's wrong?  Lois and I are really worried about you.  Perry
is too."

In the background, Lois answered her ringing phone.

"I can't tell you, CK.  I wish I could, but I just can't," Jimmy said
softly.

Lois jumped to her feet, and rushed over to the two men.  "Sorry to
interrupt, guys, but I thought you would both want to know. That was
Bernie on the phone.  Caroline's in labour!"

Lois and Clark beamed at each other and turned back to Jimmy.  Before
their eyes, he turned white as a sheet.  His eyes rolled back in his
head and his knees buckled.  Clark grabbed Jimmy around the waist to
support his weight.  "Lois, grab a chair. Hurry!"

Lois rolled her chair over to Clark and Jimmy.  Clark carefully sat
Jimmy down, holding him in place.

 "Honey, please, can you get some water?"

Lois ran to the water cooler and got a small paper cup full of water.
She moistened some paper towels while she was there.

The two reporters worked together trying to revive Jimmy.  Lois wiped
his forehead with the moist towels.  Clark urged Jimmy to take small
sips of water. Jimmy tried to hold the paper cup himself but his hands
were shaking so badly, he wasn't able to do it.  Finally, he seemed a
little steadier.

"Jimmy, what happened just now?" Lois placed her hand gently on his
arm.

Jimmy silently shook his head.

Clark pulled Jimmy to his feet. "Come on.  We have to talk, and we have
to talk now.  This has gone on long enough.  Lois and I aren't going to
let you off.  You're going to have to tell us what the problem is."

Clark firmly led Jimmy into the storeroom.  Lois followed behind,
closing and locking the door.  She stood in front of Jimmy. "Okay,
that's it. We're not letting you out of here until you tell all."

Jimmy groaned.  "Oh God, Lois, Clark. Please don't ask me.  I promised
I wouldn't talk about it."

Clark asked, "Who did you promise?"

"Lee."

Lois and Clark looked blankly at each other for a moment. Finally, Lois
said, "Jimmy, Lee loved you.  She wouldn't have wanted you to be in
pain.   Clark and I are your friends, and we can tell that you're
hurting. We want to help."

Clark gripped Jimmy firmly by the shoulders.  "And Jimmy, we meant it.
We're not letting you out of here until you spill the beans."

Jimmy turned away from them, breaking Clark's grip.  White-knuckled,
Jimmy gripped the edge of a worktable.  They could see tension in every
line of his body.  He took a deep, shuddering breath, slowly exhaled
and his body relaxed.  He turned back to them.

"Lee told me... She made me promise..."

Lois took Jimmy's hands in hers.  "What did she make you promise?" she
asked softly.

"Not to tell anyone that ... her grandmother, Caroline ... she's going
to die ... in childbirth... today," Jimmy stuttered.

Lois gasped, dropped Jimmy's hands, and stepped back, bumping into
Clark.  He gripped her shoulders to steady her.

"Jimmy, you should have told someone," Clark blurted out.

Jimmy took a deep breath. His eyes glistened with unshed tears.  "I
wanted to.  But if I had told Dr. Klein, you know what would have
happened.  He and Dr. Lee, they wouldn't have conceived a child.  And
if that child - Lee's mother - isn't born, Lee won't be born, and she
won't come back from the future to help you guys - and your boys would
disappear.  They wouldn't exist."

"Oh, dear God.  What are we going to do?" Lois asked shakily.

"We can't do anything, Lois," Jimmy said softly.

Clark shook his head.  "Yes, we can," he answered. "We can go to the
hospital, and be there for Bernie when it ... happens."

Lois rested her hand on Clark's forearm. "You're right, honey.
Bernie's going to need us."

Jimmy backed away from them.  "I can't go.  I can't face him."

Clark looked at Jimmy.  His eyes were bleak.  "Jimmy, this isn't your
fault. Don't beat yourself up anymore.  Sometimes, there's nothing that
can be done.  Believe me, I know.  It's taken me a long time to figure
that out, and I still don't like it."

Lois placed her arm loosely around his shoulders.  "Clark's right,
Jimmy. There was nothing you could do."

"I know," he answered softly. "But it doesn't make it easier.  Knowing
about Dr. Lee, it's been like watching a ... truck heading right for
her and ... I can't move to help her.  I'm just frozen in place."

There was a knock on the door.  "Lois? Clark?  Are you in there?"  It
was Perry.

Lois opened the door.  Perry stood there with a somber expression on
his face.

"The hospital just called.  Uh, something's wrong. Dr. Klein asked them
to call. He needs you there.  The nurse wouldn't tell me what's going
on, but ... it didn't sound good."

Clark took Lois's hand gently in his own. "Thanks, Perry.  We'll go
right now." He started to lead Lois out of the room.

Lois paused and looked back at Jimmy.  "Are you all right?"

Even though tears were rolling slowly down his face, he looked steady
on his feet. "I'll be fine.  Don't worry about me," he answered.  "And
guys, thanks."

The two of them just nodded and quietly left the room.

***

Lois and Clark entered the Maternity Waiting Room.  They approached the
desk.  The nurse in charge looked grim.  Her eyes were rimmed with red.

Clark cleared his throat. "Excuse me. We're looking for Dr. Klein.
Someone called and..."

"Oh, you must be Lois Lane and Clark Kent," the nurse interrupted.  "I
called. Follow me. Dr. Swanson wants to see you."

As the two reporters followed the nurse down the hall, they couldn't
help but be aware of the subdued atmosphere in the Maternity
Department.  The nurse led them to Dr. Swanson's office and knocked on
the door. At the murmured response from within, she opened it.  "Ms.
Lane and Mr. Kent are here, sir."

A grey-faced Dr. Swanson got up from his desk to greet them.  "Thanks,
Doris.  You better head back to the reception desk now."  The nurse
nodded, turned around, and left.

"Thank you very much for coming, Lois, Clark.  I wish I had an easy way
to tell you this but ... Caroline passed away a little while ago."

Lois gasped.  She had guessed that this was coming, but it was so final
to hear it said out loud.  "What happened?" she asked.

Dr. Swanson sighed and shook his head. "We won't know for sure until
after the autopsy, but ... it looks like a blood vessel in her brain
just gave out.  She was gone so fast.  It was completely unexpected."

"And the baby?" Clark asked.

"The baby's fine.  As far as the actual delivery went, everything was
fine - completely normal.  Caroline was cuddling the baby when...
everything hit the fan."  He shook his head again.  Lois and Clark
could see that he was still very shocked and upset.  "At least she got
to see her child.  She was so happy."

"Oh dear God.  Where's Bernie?  Was he there when...?"  Lois asked.

"Yes he was.  I'll take you to him.  He's with the baby."

Dr. Swanson led them out of his office and down the hall.  About a
third of the way down the hallway, they passed a door with the name
"Dr. Caroline Lee" on it.  Clark realized that Caroline hadn't just
been a patient in this hospital but also a friend and colleague.  No
wonder all the nurses and doctors looked so upset.

Dr. Swanson paused when they arrived at the nursery.  Looking through
the glass windows, they could see Dr. Klein sitting in a rocking chair
holding his baby.

"Lois, Clark, there are scrubs just inside the door that you'll have to
wear over your regular clothes.  And don't forget, you need to wash
your hands with antiseptic soap before you touch the baby."

"It's okay, Dr. Swanson.  We remember the drill from when we had the
boys," Clark said.

Lois and Clark entered the nursery.  After they had completed the
required preparations, they approached Dr. Klein.  Clark snagged a
couple more chairs on the way.  He arranged them one on either side of
the doctor and his baby.

Lois bent down and kissed him on the cheek.  "Bernie, we are so sorry.
We came as soon as we could."

He didn't look up, but remained completely focused on his child.  "I
guess Howard Swanson filled you in."

"Yes, he did, Bernie." Clark squeezed his shoulder gently.

"We wanted this baby so much.  She was so happy.  I can't believe... I
don't want to believe that she's gone."

"I know," Lois answered.

"She's really beautiful, isn't she?" he said softly as he turned the
child slightly so they had a better view.

"Yes, she is," Clark said. "What's her name?"

"We talked about names.  We hadn't made a final decision yet, but ...I
think I'll name her after Caroline's mother."  His voice broke.
"Astrid...Astrid Caroline Klein."

"That's a beautiful name for a beautiful little girl," Lois said.

Dr. Klein nodded and rocked his child in silence for another long
moment.  He slowly got to his feet and carefully placed the baby in the
bassinet.  He covered her with a blanket and tenderly stroked her
cheek. "I'll see you later, sweetie." Dr. Klein turned away from the
bassinet.  He walked clumsily, like an old man.  He looked lost.  Lois
felt an ache in her chest while she watched him.  She took his hand in
hers as they left the nursery.  Clark followed close behind looking
very anxious.

Dr. Swanson was waiting for them in the hallway.

"Bernie, I'm so sorry.  I did all that I could."

"I know you did, Howard."

"I loved her too, Bernie. She was a good friend to me," Dr. Swanson
said in a broken voice.

Dr. Klein gripped his shoulders firmly.  "Listen to me.  There was
nothing you could have done differently.  You did your best.  You're a
good man, Howard, and a good doctor."

Lois almost felt ashamed of herself as she watched Dr. Klein.  It was
so easy to forget the depth and caliber of this man.  Even in his
sorrow, he had a genuine concern for Dr. Swanson.

"Bernie, I'm sorry but you know the drill.  There has to be an
autopsy," Dr. Swanson said grimly.

Dr. Klein blanched.  "I know," he said softly.

"Listen, Bernie.  I talked to the coroner.  He's going to ... do it as
fast as he can.  If he finds what we expect, he should be done tonight.
 Understandably, you're in shock right now.  I want you to go with your
friends here," he gestured at Lois and Clark, "and come back tomorrow
morning.  I'll help you make arrangements for the baby ... and for
Caroline."  His voice quavered.

Dr. Klein nodded.  Silently, he extended his hand to Dr. Swanson for a
formal handshake.

Clark put his arm around Dr. Klein's shoulders. "Come on, Bernie.  Let
Lois and I look after you."

Continued in part two.

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Thanks to the RR group for this type of story.  I think I get more detail
and humor and just plain good ole story
telling from ya'll than I ever got from the writers of the Series.  Thank
you so much and more, please.

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Title: Starfire and Sunstorm Part One - Caroline
Part: 2 of 2
Author: Irene Dutchak sirenegold@yahoo.com
Rating: PG
Feedback: All feedback, public and private is welcome.
Summary: Sequel to and continuation of previous fanfic "Firestorm."

continued from part one.

Dr. Klein and Clark were sitting at Dr. Klein's kitchen table drinking
coffee.  They had dropped Lois and the car off at the Daily Planet.
She wanted to be with them too, but someone had to hold down the fort
and be there to pick up the boys.  Clark and Dr. Klein had then flown
"Superman Express" to Dr. Klein's home.  Clark realized exactly how
shell-shocked Bernie was, when he made no comment about the flight.
Normally he loved to fly and had managed to cajole Superman on a number
of different occasions to take him out.

Clark had been uncomfortable going into the Klein's home.  Bernie and
Caroline had left in such a hurry for the hospital that the kitchen was
still untidy from breakfast.  Clark had quickly tidied up and put the
coffee on.

Bernie, however, seemed oblivious to his surroundings.  Clark didn't
know what to say, so he didn't say anything and just looked down at the
table.

After a few minutes of uncomfortable silence, Bernie spoke up. "Clark,
you don't have to stay."

Clark looked up. "I want to stay, Bernie."

"I know you do, Clark, but you have a family of your own that you
should be with.  I'll be fine, really." Dr. Klein sighed. "Go home,
Clark. I appreciate you being here ... but I just want to be alone
now."

"Okay, Bernie.  But if you need anything..." Clark stood up.

"I know. I'll call if I need to."

Clark hated leaving him there all by himself, but he couldn't force Dr.
Klein to let him stay.

***

As luck would have it, Clark was delayed returning to the Daily Planet.
 On his way back, he heard a couple of different calls for help.  In
consequence, Lois and Clark were only able to get one quick moment
together in the elevator before they had to pick up the boys from
daycare.

"Maybe I should call Bernie, Clark, and ask him for supper.  He
shouldn't be alone."

"He wants to be alone, Lois.  But I'll make a point of checking on his
house when I patrol later."

"What are we going to tell the boys?"  Lois asked.

"I think we should tell them the truth, but not yet.  Let's wait until
after dinner," Clark answered.

"I'm not sure I'll be able to find the right words," Lois admitted.

"We'll do fine, honey.  I just know it."  He kissed her quickly.

 The doors opened on the second floor.  They entered the daycare and
braced themselves.

"Mommy! Daddy!"  Two voices shouted in chorus.    Two little bodies
jumped up into their outstretched arms.

"How was your day, guys?" Clark asked.

"We had a great day, Dad," Jon said enthusiastically.  Sam nodded in
agreement.

Sam seemed happiest following Jon's lead.  Lois and Clark had been
quite worried about him.  It had only been in the last three months
that he had started speaking.  He had always let Jon do all his talking
for him. He was a sober, serious child, a bit of an introvert.  No one
could ever say the same about Jon, however.  He was a much livelier
child, always taking the lead in exploring new things.  And he was the
one to lead Sam into mischief rather than the other way around.

Lois and Clark managed to say all the right things to the boys.  They
said good night to the childcare workers and headed home.

***

Lois and Clark had both found themselves pushing their food around on
their plates.  There was nothing wrong with supper as the boys proved
by gobbling down everything on their plates.  But they were both very
preoccupied.  Lois couldn't stop thinking about poor Jimmy's
predicament.  It must have been awful for him, to know this horrible
thing was coming, and to not say anything. But, much as Lois was going
to miss Caroline, she was grateful to Jimmy for not taking a chance
with her boys' lives.  She didn't know what she would do if anything
ever happened to them.

Clark couldn't stop thinking about Bernie.  What was he going to do
without Caroline?  The two of them had been so much in love.  For that
matter, what would Clark ever do if something happened to Lois?  Poor
Bernie, left alone to bring up a child by himself.   He shook his head.
 It was exactly the situation that Clark dreaded the most.

Lost in thought, Clark didn't even notice when Lois washed the boys'
faces and hands and let them leave the table.

Lois gently stroked his face. "Clark, we better talk to the boys now."

Lost in thought, he looked blankly at her for a minute, then nodded.
They headed to the playroom.

"Sam... Jon...  Daddy and I have something we need to talk to you
about."

"What, Mommy?" Jon asked as he clambered up onto her lap.

As per usual, Sam was quiet, content to let his twin do the talking.
He made himself comfortable on Clark's lap.

"We have some bad news, boys." Clark spoke softly.  The boys looked at
him gravely as he continued. "Your Aunt Caroline got really sick.  She
went into hospital ..."  Clark's voice trailed off.  He looked
helplessly at Lois.

"Is she going to get better, Daddy?" Jon asked, regarding his father in
alarm.

"No, honey, she's not," Lois interrupted.  She cuddled Jon closer.
"She died."

"Oh."  Jon and Sam regarded each other seriously before Jon continued
speaking.  "I guess Uncle Bernie is really sad just like you and Daddy
are, right, Mommy?"

Clark cleared his throat. "Yes, he is.  And he's going to need our
help.  He has a new little baby of his own to look after but he's going
to be very sad for a long time."

"Jon and Sam, do you think you and Daddy and I could all help Uncle
Bernie and his new little girl?"

The boys looked solemnly at each other once again.  Finally Jon spoke
up.  "Sure, Mommy.  We love Uncle Bernie.  And we'll play with the baby
too."

Sam nodded solemnly in agreement. "Yep," he answered in his customary
one word fashion.

***

The next few days were just as grim as Lois and Clark had feared they
would be.  The autopsy had been completed in a very timely fashion.
The coroner had discovered exactly what Dr. Swanson had suspected.
Caroline had died as the result of an unsuspected weakness in a major
blood vessel in the brain.  When this blood vessel had burst, she
hadn't had a chance.  The coroner had made a point of telling Bernie
that she could have died at any time and that childbirth was not to
blame for this accident.

With Dr. Swanson's help, Dr. Klein had planned a simple, dignified
funeral. And thankfully, he seemed to be holding up very well.  He had
made arrangements with the hospital to look after Astrid until he had
completed the arrangements for her mother.

Lois and Clark had both felt comforted by the funeral service. They
were also reassured by how well Dr. Klein seemed to be doing.

Jimmy, however, was a mess.  He had attended the funeral and the
reception, but was obviously uncomfortable in Bernie's company.  He had
left as soon as he could do so unobtrusively.  Dr. Klein watched him
go, his eyes dark and troubled.

***

Later that evening, Jimmy sat alone in his apartment.  It looked much
the same as it had three years before when Lee had last been with him.
 Jimmy was slumped on the couch.  He gazed forlornly at the two newer
additions to his apartment, a formal portrait of Lee and a framed copy
of Jimmy's award winning story and photo of Firestorm.  The sound of
the front door buzzer echoed through the apartment making him jump.  He
got up and walked slowly over to the intercom.

"Who is it?"

"Bernie Klein."

Jimmy backed away from the intercom and looked at it blankly for a long
moment before he moved back to press its button once more.

"Come on in."

He opened the door and waited for Dr. Klein to emerge from the
elevator.  Jimmy silently motioned him into the apartment.  Dr. Klein
sat down, his eyes going to and locking on the portrait of Lee and the
framed photo of Firestorm.  "I still miss her," he said softly.

"I do too," Jimmy agreed, "every minute of every day."

"She really loved you, Jimmy."

"I know."

They sat in silence for a moment.

Dr. Klein leaned forward in his chair. "Jimmy, I don't blame you."

"You knew?"

"Yes and no.  Lee tried to be discreet and not talk too much about the
future but she still let things slip.  She talked about me, Lois,
Clark, her mom, her dad.  She casually mentioned her uncle, some aunts
and some cousins.  But she never, not even once, volunteered any
information about Caroline.  It was as if she didn't exist in Lee's
mind.  There was only one reason that I could come up with for that."

"Dr. Klein, how did you go on, knowing that?"

"I didn't know it would be this soon, but ... I resolved to treasure
every moment that Caroline was with me. I loved her, Jimmy and I
continue to love her. I don't regret anything.  You know, you and I
have something in common."

"We do?"

"Yes, you got involved with Lee even though you knew it couldn't last.
And I did the same with Caroline.  Neither you nor I knew when our
loves would be taken from us."

"I never thought of it that way, Dr. Klein.  But, how did you figure
out that Lee told me?"

"Jimmy, you don't exactly have a poker face.  You always had this look
on your face whenever you saw Caroline."

"Should I have told you?"

"No, it wouldn't have changed anything.  And it was kinder not knowing
when.  I want to thank you for not telling me.  I know it must have
been a hard burden for you to bear alone."

"It was hard but it's over for me.  Your burden is just beginning."

"What?  You mean Astrid?  Jimmy, she's not a burden.  She's a joy.  I
love her dearly.  But I don't deny I'll need help."

Jimmy extended his hand.  "You know I'll help any way I can, Dr.
Klein."

Dr. Klein firmly shook his hand.  "I know.  And it's Bernie, Jimmy."

"Okay Bernie.  But I meant losing Caroline would be a burden."

"I won't deny that this is hard.  I love her, Jimmy and I keep thinking
she'll walk in the door, but I know that I will survive.  Looking after
Astrid really helps."

***

"Hi, Bernie, it's me.  I wondered if you would like Clark or me to go
to the hospital with you today to help bring Astrid home... Oh, okay...
if you're sure...No, it's fine... Take care. Bye."  Lois hung up the
phone with a quizzical expression on her face.  She turned to Clark who
was sitting at the breakfast table with the boys who were gobbling up
their food. "He doesn't need our help... Clark, he asked Jimmy to go
with him. When did they become such good friends?"

"Lois, relax.  This could be exactly what Jimmy needs, to help Bernie
out."  Clark deftly caught the glass of orange juice that Jon started
to knock over.

Lois moved back to the table and sat down rejoining her family.  "Sam,
here, don't forget to eat your vitamin, sweetie." She rescued the pill
>from under the edge of his plate. "That's a good point, honey.  But it
did take me by surprise."

Clark got up, moved to the sink, moistened a washcloth and returned to
the table.  He competently applied the washcloth to Jon's sticky face.
"Hey, quit squirming!  There, all done, buddy.  Go brush your teeth."

"'kay, Daddy."

"And how about you, Sam?  Are you ready to have your face washed?"

Sam nodded. "Yep."  He endured the daily ritual unflinchingly.

"Okay, off you go too.  Brush your teeth."

Sam silently scooted out of the room.

Lois gazed after him reflectively.  "Do you think we will ever have a
real conversation with him?"

Clark laughed.  "Of course we will.  He just hasn't been motivated
enough yet but he will be, honey.  Don't worry."

"I can't help worrying.  I think it's in the job description."  Lois
smiled wryly.

"You sure got that right."  Clark adjusted his glasses and looked
through the wall to check on the boys' whereabouts.  Seeing that they
were both safely occupied in the bathroom, he zipped around the kitchen
at super-speed cleaning up the breakfast mess.  When he was done, Lois
was sitting alone at the clean kitchen table with her cup of coffee,
glass of orange juice and plate of toast in front of her.  A neatly
folded copy of that morning's Daily Planet was beside her plate.

"Thanks, hon. I'll see you after my dentist's appointment."

Clark leaned over and kissed Lois.  "Boys," he shouted. "Come and say
bye to Mom.  Hurray up, we've got to get going if we want to take the
subway."

The two boys promptly galloped back into the kitchen.  "Bye, Mommy."
"Bye." Two little bodies threw themselves at her.  Two sets of lips
smacked against her cheeks.

 "Bye, sweeties.  You be good for Daddy on the subway.  I'll stop in to
see you when I get to the office."

Clark grinned at Lois, took his sons by the hand and the three of them
set off.

Lois chuckled.  She checked her watch.  Great!  She had time to read
the paper all by herself before she had to leave for her appointment.
She refused to feel guilty for enjoying these brief few minutes of
solitude.

***

"Bernie, she's a doll!"  Jimmy lightly stroked the baby's hair.

"She sure is.  And she looks like her mom, doesn't she?"

"She's the spitting image of Caroline.  And of Lee." Jimmy said huskily
as he cuddled the little girl in his arms.

Bernie stood behind him, gazing at his daughter.  He rested his hand
lightly on Jimmy's shoulder. "Jimmy, do you think you will ever fall in
love again?"

"No.  Lee's the only woman for me."

"That's how I feel about Caroline.  I know it's too soon to know for
sure, but ... I can't see myself ever feeling that way again."  He
moved around the couch and sat beside Jimmy, gently taking his child
back and cuddling her close.  "And I'm going to be pretty busy looking
after this little bundle of joy."

"I said it before, and I'll say it again.  I'll help in any way that I
can."

"I know, Jimmy.  And thanks."

The two men sat in silence for a time.

"Bernie, did Lee ever tell you which one of the twins would be her
father."

"No.  And I always wondered if she had told you."

"I think she would have but Mr. Wells came for her before she had the
chance."

"I guess we'll have to wait a few years to find out."

"I guess so."

The two men lapsed into silence once again.

After a moment, Jimmy jumped to his feet. "Okay, Bernie.  You and I
have been dragging around here long enough.  I'm going to get moving.
You just relax with Astrid while I unpack the stuff we brought from the
hospital.  You can think about what you want us to get done next."

Jimmy grabbed the diaper bag and the box that the hospital had given
them for all the baby's things and headed into Astrid's bedroom.

Dr. Klein looked down at his daughter.  "Uncle Jimmy's right, isn't he?
 It's time to get moving.  With you around, I can't give up on
anything, can I?" He sighed heavily and shifted her so that she was
snuggled into the crook of his neck.  He supported her with both arms
as he awkwardly got up from the couch.  "Let's go check and see how
Uncle Jimmy's doing, shall we?"  Murmuring to his child the entire
time, Dr. Klein followed Jimmy into his baby's room.

***

"Jimmy!"  Clark greeted his friend enthusiastically when he arrived at
work.  "How's Bernie doing?"

"Hey CK.  He's doing pretty well.   He's going to be all right. And
he's really good with Astrid."

"That's great!  And how are you doing?"

"I'm doing a lot better, thanks."  Jimmy looked around to make sure no
one was listening to their conversation.   He continued in a low voice.
"CK, he knew!"

"He knew?  About Caroline?"

Jimmy nodded vigorously.  "Yeah.  He didn't know exactly when it was
going to happen but he knew all the same.  He figured it out from stuff
Lee said."

"Wow!"  Clark shook his head in disbelief.  "I never would have guessed
it."

"Me either."

"You know, Jimmy, he always surprises me.  There's a lot of depth to
that man."

Jimmy clapped Clark on the arm.  "There sure is!"

"How's the baby?"

"She's doing great!  She's a real sweetheart.  Doesn't cry much.
Sleeps a lot.  Should be a real problem free daughter-in-law for you."
Jimmy grinned slyly at Clark.

Clark shook his head.  "Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Jimmy, have I
ever told you?  My life is weird."

Jimmy chuckled.  "And getting weirder all the time."

"And how are you doing now, Jimmy?  Are you feeling better?"

"Yeah, I'm upset about Caroline but ... I feel like a weight's been
lifted off my chest.  I do feel a lot better."

"Great!  Perry, Lois and I have all been worried about you."

"I know and I appreciate it, CK."  He took a deep breath.  " You guys
are great friends."  He took a deep breath and changed the subject.
"Now, my big problem is work.  How the heck am I going to get my job
back as a reporter?"

"Don't worry about it, Jimmy.  Find yourself a story and Perry will
shift you back in a heartbeat."

"Hey! I don't suppose there are any Superman exclusives at the moment."
 He grinned at Clark.

Clark grinned back. "I'll see what I can do." He moved to go back to
his desk only to turn back to Jimmy.
"Before I forget, do you want to come over for a barbecue on Saturday?
We're going to ask Bernie and the baby too."

"Sure, CK.  Sounds like fun."

***

Jimmy, Lois and Clark lounged comfortably in their lawn chairs,
watching the boys play in their sandbox. Bernie and Astrid hadn't
arrived yet.

The boys had joyously greeted their Uncle Jimmy.  He was a frequent
visitor and was always welcomed warmly.  Uncle Jimmy was a good
playmate.  They were disappointed in him today though.  He didn't want
to play with them but instead seemed quite happy sitting and talking
with their mom and dad.  The boys didn't let it bother them too much
however.  There was always the hope that he would join in their games
later.

Dr. Klein and Astrid got there about an hour after they were expected.
He was looking quite frazzled. The diaper bag was slung over one arm
with diapers, bottles and baby blankets protruding out of the top of
it.  Astrid was sound asleep in his arms looking positively angelic.

"Lois, Clark.  I'm sorry I'm late."

Clark got to his feet and took Astrid into his arms.  "It's okay,
Bernie. Lois and I remember what it's like with a newborn."

Dr. Klein sat down and put the diaper bag at his feet. "I waited for
her to get up from her nap.  She had soaked through her diaper so I had
to change her and put her in a clean outfit.  Then she was hungry so I
gave her a bottle.  We were all set to go when she spat up all over me
and all over herself too.  So I got changed, got her changed again and
then she filled her diaper."

The other adults laughed.  Lois finally got control of herself and
stopped giggling.  "I'm sorry, Bernie, but the expression on your
face..." She started giggling again.

Bernie grinned in response. "Everyone kept saying newborns were a lot
of work but I hadn't really thought much about it."

"You're doing okay, though, aren't you, Bernie?" Jimmy asked.

"We're doing fine, Jimmy, but let's just say, I've gained new respect
for Lois and Clark.  How did you guys ever handle * two * newborns at
once?"

Clark glanced at Lois in amusement before answering.  "Well, Bernie.  I
guess it helps that I have superpowers!"

Lois leaned forward. "And it really helps when you have help.  Jimmy
has been a wonderful help to me, especially when Clark's off ... you
know, fighting killer bees or propping up the Golden Gate Bridge."

Jimmy blushed. "Thanks, Lois.  You know I like helping out. And I
already volunteered to help with Astrid."

"And I already agreed to accept his help, Lois."  Dr. Klein reassured
her.

Astrid suddenly woke up and started to wail.   Clark looked over at her
father who looked like he wanted to wail too.  He took pity on Dr.
Klein.  "Bernie, hand me one of those bottles.  I'll feed her."

"But Clark, it has to be heated."

Clark chuckled. "I think I remember how long to zap it with my heat
vision."

"Oh, right.  I see what you mean about superpowers being handy."

Jon came running from the sandbox with Sam in tow.  "Can me and Sam see
the baby?  Please?"

"Sure, boys.  But don't touch her. Your hands are filthy."  Clark had
to raise his voice to be heard over the sound of Astrid crying.  She
was crying so hard and flailing her little fists so much that he was
having trouble getting the bottle to her mouth.

Jon took one quick peek at her.  "She's just a crybaby girl.  Come on,
Sam."  He turned to head back to the sandbox.

Sam, however, was clearly intrigued.  He edged a couple of steps
closer, moving into Astrid's field of vision.  "Hi, baby," he said
softly.

 Astrid's sobs changed, becoming softer and more tentative. Her eyes
focused on Sam. She fell completely silent.

Ignoring his dad's injunction not to touch the baby, he held out a
finger to her.  She promptly grabbed it in her fist.  "I'm sorry you
don't have a mommy.  But don't worry. I'm going to help look after
you."  He looked up at his father.  "I am, aren't I, daddy?  I'm going
to look after her.  She can come over all the time, right?  And I'll
share my things with her and everything."

Clark never took his eyes off his son.  He nodded slowly.  "That's
right, buddy."

"See, baby.  I'm going to look after you.  You can come to my house
anytime.  You're a nice baby.  I like you."

Lois glanced at Dr. Klein.  He seemed frozen in place.  "Sam, I know
you're going to be a big helper for Uncle Bernie.  But for right now,
how about you go back to playing with Jon.  Daddy's going to feed the
baby.  You can visit with her some more after she's eaten. Okay?"

"Okay, Mommy."  Sam gently disengaged his finger from Astrid's fist.
He trailed reluctantly after Jon to the sandbox, looking back
frequently.

The adults sat in a stunned silence that was only broken by the soft
sounds of Astrid's sucking on her bottle.

"You always told me that Sam would speak up when he got motivated,
Clark but..." Lois couldn't find the words to continue.

"I know."  Clark cuddled the little girl closer as she continued to
drink her formula.  "I guess we just figured out which one of our boys
this little one's going to marry."

Jimmy watched the two boys playing in the yard.  Sam wasn't paying
attention to his brother but instead kept pausing to look back
longingly at Astrid.  Jon looked quite lost, obviously not knowing how
to handle this major defection in the ranks.  Jimmy's heart went out to
him.  This was a huge blow for a little boy to handle.  Jimmy resolved
to do whatever he could to help.

End of part one.

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Unfortuantely I do not know of any channels that carry it up here.  maybe
someone will take pity on us and could tape it for us.  Sue

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>Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:28:53 -0700
>
>Does any Southern Ontario, Canada FoLC know if this show is in reruns
>here?   This sounds like a great episode to tape but I can't find it in
>the TV guide.  That doesn't always mean anything.  I've been known to
>miss stuff in there before.
>
>Thanks,
>Irene
>
>--- Bob or Chris Mulder <mulders@MINDSPRING.COM> wrote:
> > Hi, FoLCs,
> >
> > I happened to notice that the PAX cable channel is
> > once again airing
> > Life Goes On.  This past Saturday they showed part
> > one of the
> > Hawaiian trip story, which means that this coming
> > Saturday (June 5th)
> > they will show Dean's episode.  If you haven't seen
> > this yet, you owe
> > it to yourself to check it out.  <g>  There's a shot
> > of Dean coming out
> > of the surf to the tune of the theme from 2001, and
> > then there's the
> > dancing in the loin cloth and palm leaf headdress.
> > <vbg>  I had part of
> > this episode on tape to show at one of our local
> > Fests, and it was a big
> > hit, as you can imagine.  I'm looking forward to
> > getting the whole thing
> > on tape this time.
> >
> > In my part of the world (Eastern U.S.) Life Goes On
> > airs from 5-6 p.m.
> > Check your local listings for times in your area.
> >
> > --Chris
> >
> >
> >
> >  mailto:mulders@mindspring.com
> >
>
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I loved how you made Jon take after Lois and Sam take after Clark that was
so
great!
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At 05:30 AM 06/01/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 05/31/1999 9:30:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>Debby@SWCP.COM writes:
>
><< I'm so encouraged that I plan to upload
> Day 2
> to the list and my site on Thursday, okay, everyone? >>
>
>We have to wait THAT long? <whine>
>
>--Laurie

Yeah ;)

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
consider it summertime reading...
and the parts generally get longer as time goes along

ps: I tried to upload corrected versions to my site this morning (June 1)
but
had a problem and expect to get them up this (June 1) afternoon
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I need to know if the street Besolo Blvd. is spelled with one 's' :  Besolo,
or two s's:  Bessolo.  Any help would be greatly appreciated :)

Thanks,
Mandy :)
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In a message dated 6/1/99 9:32:18 PM Central Daylight Time, mandyc@LCC.NET
writes:

<<  need to know if the street Besolo Blvd. is spelled with one 's' :
Besolo,
 or two s's:  Bessolo.  Any help would be greatly appreciated :) >>

Well, if they're meaning it as a tribute to George Reeves (original
Adventures of Superman) then it's spelled Bessolo.  Reeves (a stage name
chosen for him by Jack Warner apparently) was born George Keefer Brewer, his
mother got divorced and she married a man named Joseph Bessolo who adopted
George.  It's not unlike Dean being born Tanaka, and then being adopted by
his stepdad Chris Cain (whose real name seems to be Bruce Dogget? ;) Can you
imagne Dean Dogget in Dogboys? ;)

Zoomway@aol.com
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I just wanted to let everyone know that the ornament mentioned for sale has
been sold.  But I decided to mention more stuff, maybe this is better than
waiting for my busy self to make a page.  So, here is a reprise of what is
for sale and some new items

(1) Superman The Animated Series Action Figure: Fully Poseable figure with
authentically styled outfit.  Figure stands 12" tall and is just so darn
cute.
Not Suitable for children under 3.  In original box.

Price: $30.00 plus S/H

(2)Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Comic Book: This book
features the Superman comics that inspired the series in one neat set, with
our favorite reporting duo on the cover (1st season photo.)  The stories
included are:
I HAVE TWO COPIES OF THIS
-The Story of the Century (Man of Steel #2, 1986)

-Tears for Titano (Superman Annual #1, 1986)

-Metropolis- 900 Mi (Superman #9, 9/87) * a must read for Lex fans

-The Name Game (Superman #11, 11/87)

-Lois Lane (Action Comics #600, 5/88) * Classic Lois

-Headhunter (Adventures of Superman #445, 10/88)

-Homeless for the Holidays (Adventures of Superman #462, 1/90)

-The Limits of Power (Adventures of Superman #466, 5/90)

-Survival (Action Comics #655, 7/90)

Price $13.00 plus S/H
That is all in one book, It is a compliation of the superman stories that
inspired L&C

 BOOKS:

(3) HARD COVER: Lois & Clark: A Superman Novel.  By C.J. Cherryh.  This
version is no longer in print.  It has the original "steam photo" shot.  Now
they just sell the copy with the S-shield.  A must read for a FoLCs.
practically new condition

Price : $25 dollars plus shipping and handling

(4) Lois & Clark Paperback, M.J Friedman Exile.  read but in good condition.
Features pictures from the show in the middle of the book.
Price: $5.50 plus shipping and handling

(5) Lois & Clark Paperback, M.J Friedman Deadly Games .  read but in good
condition.  Features pictures from the show in the middle of the book.
Price: $5.50 plus shipping and handling

(6) Giant Graphic Novel.  Superman, Peace on Earth.  This graphic story is
in
mint condition, hasn't even been read.  The graphics are amazing and the
story is hearfelt (I read my friend's copy and bought my copy for show).
Price: $11 dollars plus shipping and handling.

Ok, now a recap of the rules...
All payments must be made in US money, money orders or cash.  Personal
checks
will not be accepted unless you receive my approval (ie: anyone who I've met
at a Fest or anyone who bought one of my T-shirts)  Items will be shipped
the
next business day after payment is received.  OK, that's all.
AND PLEASE RESPOND PRIVATELY TO DREAMKATE1@AOL.COM
- Kate
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In a message dated 99-06-01 22:48:47 EDT, you write:

<< Dean Dogget in Dogboys? ;) >>

LOL! =)

Although any name seems to work with Dean.. that's the kind of sweetie he
is!
<G>

Alexis ;-.)
{who is so excited over something she got from the man himself.. ;X
i can say no more.. LOL}
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In a message dated 6/1/99 12:11:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
REYNORA@MAIL.NORTHGRUM.COM writes:

<< First to the Round Robin authors, thanks for a wonderful story. These
 insider peeks into Lois and Clark's lives are just what a fan loves to
read.
 When I read stories like this I feel as if the show has never gone off the
 air and I can "see" the action in my minds eye. If you haven't had a chance
 to read this yet, please do so. As always, the group has done an excellent
 job. >>

As always, Ray, I get to thank you (and Wendy and Brenda) on behalf of the
round robin crew (I think I get elected because I'm a natural blabbermouth
;)
<< S
 P
 O
 I
 L
 E
 R

 S
 P
 A
 C
 E
  >>

>>You FoLCs have really outdone yourselves. The scenes here were funny, and
touching and sad and poignant. I think you also came up with a few plot
ideas for future fanfic. I think this one story has contained more premises
for future fan fic than any other I can think of. I don't know if you
planned it this way but you certainly created a gold mine of new ideas for
authors to investigate. Maybe you plan this for future round robins?<<<

Well, I can promise the scenes weren't planned. We go into a fanfic with
only
a basic premise. In this case a very simple one; clean out a storage room so
it can become a nursery. Have Lois and Clark reminisce over the objects they
find there, and so on. We did something similar "way back when" for Lois and
Clark moving into their townhouse, it was titled "It's Us", I believe. In
that story they were going through their stuff and most of it was
reflections
back to their personal history together, whereas this story they shared some
of their separate histories with each other.

>>>One that struck me as perfect for a future fic is the story about Clark
and
his Aunt Laura and the trip to Cairo. Another is the circumstances
surrounding her death a year later, it sounds like something very life
changing for Clark. Also, I think any stories about the "suppers" and
"dinners" with his grandparents would be a good, fun topic. For something
very touching and sad, the circumstances surrounding the presentation of the
embroidered sampler would be excellent.<<<

I agree, a lot of fun and interesting things could be explored. For me, the
part with the "dinner vs supper" was really personal history. My dad's side
of the family was very formal. We even had to call our paternal grandfather
"Grand sir" (no kidding! ;) but my mom's side of the family all seemed to
live in Mayberry <g> It was "grandma" and "grandpa" there. They lived out in
the country not unlike the Kents. They had goats,  a couple of old horses,
some chickens, and one big Brahma bull, and everyone helped when it was time
to cut the hay ;)

>>Thanks again, for the excellent work. You and your editors are
wonderful.<<<

And thank you for the encouragement, we appreciate it always.

Zoomway@aol.com
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Debby,

Just wanted to add my thanks and congratulations to the chorus.  This is a
great idea, and I love all the detail you've put into it.  It looks to me
like you've set yourself quite a daunting task, keeping up with the quality
and content of Day 1, but I hope you have as much fun writing it as I did
reading it.

S
P
O
I
L
E
R

S
P
A
C
E

Sandy wrote:
> >Since you brought up the issue of typos:
> >
> >In CK's resume, which *shouldn't* be free form, there are two typos --
> >adventurer and familiarity.  Also, shouldn't you indicate the year he
> >received his degree?
>
I just assumed that Clark had made a couple of mistakes in his resume :)
Although, I guess that was a bit unfair of me, since Clark is a pretty
meticulous chap and he would probably check, recheck and check again
anything as important as his CV (what we call resumes).  Unlike some of the
CVs I've been sent with job applications - you'd think the people sending
them didn't really want the job at all.

Can't wait for Thursday's journal entry...

Yvonne
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Can anyone help, please?

1. What time do bars in US cities usually close?
2. We have 'landlords' in pubs.  What's the US equivalent?
3. Am I right in thinking there's some sort of law against drinking spirits
like whisky in public, hence the phrase 'brown bagging it'?

Thanks,
Yvonne
(yconnell@ukf.net)
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Debby-

I'm really enjoying "My Journal" so far- worth waiting for :) I have a few
questions, though, which may or may not be spoilers...

First, on Clark's resume, it says: "B.A., 1994, Journalism, Kansas State
University." However, in part 6, Clark writes, "I returned with a urine
sample which I'm confident shows nothing unusual because the ones I gave for
the football team at Midwest U were never questioned." You name two
different
colleges, unless KSU is also called Midwest, or unless Clark started out at
Midwest U and transferred to Kansas State, but in that case he'd probably
put
both on his resume. I'm not sure if this is a deliberate inconsistency or
not, but I thought I'd point it out anyway.

Sandy wrote:
<<< I do want to ask though, did you intend for the dates in the story to be
different from the TV show, e.g., born in 1972 instead of 1966(?); arrival
in
Metropolis in 1999 instead of 1993, etc.?>>>

I couldn't find where they were in the story (though I'll admit I didn't
look
very well), but I like these dates ;) Puts Clark closer to my age <g>

My input on public transportation fares-- The RTA (rapid transit authority,
I
believe) in Cleveland charges $1.25 for "local" fares, $1.50 for "express"
fares, and $2.50 to travel from outside Cuyahoga County lines (where
Cleveland is) to inside. I think this is up-to-date since one current price
I
do know for sure is that it costs $1.50 each way for me to take the bus from
a stop inside the county downtown to Jacobs Field, where the Cleveland
Indians play their games ;) I'm guessing this is an "express" fare. I
recently visited Toronto and bus or subway fare was $2 Canadian.

-Christy (newly non-stressed and enjoying a short break before returning to
campus for summer research)
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>From MR. D8A's work email
1. Most Bars close at 2:00am
2a. If a 'landlord' is the owner then they would be called the 'owner.'  If
a 'landlord' is the individual serving drinks then they are a 'bartender' or
'barkeep/barkeeper.'
2b. We usually call 'pubs' 'taverns' or 'bars.'  Sometimes 'watering holes.'
3. I am not sure about this one.  I now that drinking and driving is a no-no
but I am not sure about walking down the street.

MR. D8A  A.K.A.  James

A soda/pop drinker myself.  Though I did drink for a while once I turned 21.
I gave it up because it really did nothing for me, I make a miserable drunk,
and the next morning was a dozy.

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understanding.  In all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your
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Can anyone help, please?

1. What time do bars in US cities usually close?
2. We have 'landlords' in pubs.  What's the US equivalent?
3. Am I right in thinking there's some sort of law against drinking spirits
like whisky in public, hence the phrase 'brown bagging it'?

Thanks,
Yvonne
(yconnell@ukf.net)
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Mr. D8a wrote:

> 2a. If a 'landlord' is the owner then they would be called the 'owner.'
If
> a 'landlord' is the individual serving drinks then they are a 'bartender'
or
> 'barkeep/barkeeper.'
> 2b. We usually call 'pubs' 'taverns' or 'bars.'  Sometimes 'watering
holes.'

2c. There's also a "bouncer," the person responsible for seeing that no one
underage is admitted to the bar (unless they card at the table instead of
the door) and for seeing that anyone disruptive is removed from the bar.

> 3. I am not sure about this one.  I now that drinking and driving is a
no-no
> but I am not sure about walking down the street.

Almost every city has an open container law which prohibits outdoor,
on-the-street consumption of alcohol (although outdoors on private property
is acceptable, as with restaurant patios or backyard parties).  However, the
degree to which this is enforced varies considerably.  When I was in college
it was largely ignored on campus, and it's my understanding that even if New
Orleans *does* have an open container law, it would be virtually impossible
to enforce this during Mardi Gras.  But, yes, the reason liquor is hidden in
bags is because it is illegal to drink openly when you're outside on public
property.

-Emily (Who hasn't been drinking much other than water and milk for, oh,
        five months or so <g>)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yvonne Connell [mailto:yconnell@UKF.NET]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 1999 9:21 AM
> To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
> Subject: Info on US life, please
>
>
> Can anyone help, please?
>
> 1. What time do bars in US cities usually close?
> 2. We have 'landlords' in pubs.  What's the US equivalent?
> 3. Am I right in thinking there's some sort of law against drinking
spirits
> like whisky in public, hence the phrase 'brown bagging it'?
>
> Thanks,
> Yvonne
> (yconnell@ukf.net)

--
Emily Crawford/Warbler on IRC              ccsupec@helen.oit.gatech.edu

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Its quaint events were hammered out -- and now the tale is done,
And home we steer, a merry crew, beneath the setting sun." -Lewis Carroll
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>>> Emily Angerer Crawford said:

Almost every city has an open container law which prohibits outdoor,
on-the-street consumption of alcohol (although outdoors on private =
property
is acceptable, as with restaurant patios or backyard parties). =20
and it's my understanding that even if New
Orleans *does* have an open container law, it would be virtually impossible=

to enforce this during Mardi Gras.  >>>

I have been to New Orleans many times and they do allow public drinking =
[out on the street]. The only caveat is you must use a plastic container--n=
o glass.

And, around here, brown bagging means bring liquor to a bar or restaurant =
that doesn't serve it, but allows patrons to bring it in.

Kay II
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At 11:06 AM 6/2/99 -0500, Kay Jones wrote:
>
>And, around here, brown bagging means bring liquor to a bar or restaurant
that doesn't serve it, but allows patrons to bring it in.
>

And where I come from (rural Colorado), brown bagging is bringing your lunch
to work (or to a noon meeting that isn't providing a meal) and has nothing
whatsoever to do with drinking.

Sheila
sharper@cncc.cc.co.us
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Hi Irene!

It's been a l-o-n-g day at work, and so I'm only now getting around
to commenting on 'Starfire and Sunstorm Part One'. What can I say? I
thought it was wonderful. Exactly the kind of continuation of
'Firestorm' I'd hoped for; more explanation of what happens next in
Lois and Clark's lives and building towards the events in 'Firestorm'.

s
p
o
i
l
e
r

s
p
a
c
e

I loved the way you dealt with Jimmy; his guilt, his sense of loss
over Lee, and the way in which Bernie Klein behaved towards him
afterwards. The thought that Jimmy is becoming a surrogate uncle to
his girlfriend's mother is really WAFFy.

As for the way you allowed L&C to guess which of their sons becomes
Lee's father - that was so sweet!

More, more, please!!

(Oh, and thanks for the credit, though it was completely unnecessary!)

Wendy

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>And where I come from (rural Colorado), brown bagging is bringing your
>lunch
>to work (or to a noon meeting that isn't providing a meal) and has nothing
>whatsoever to do with drinking.
>
>Sheila
>sharper@cncc.cc.co.us

I'd never heard of that term being used for liquor before now :) It means
bringing your lunch to work by us too (Michigan). I've also never heard of a
restaurant that didn't serve liquor, but let people bring it in. I guess
we're more rural than I thought.
Rachel
rae@usXchange.net

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Irene, this is marvelous, as always. I look forward to the continuation...
and BTW, I think we've all been expecting Part 2, etc., to show up right
away, and that's why no one has offered their kudos yet. You're spoiling
us, Irene. :)

Two questions, and I don't think they're spoilers: Is it *routine* and
*necessary* to have an autopsy performed when a person dies in a hospital?
This is news to me.

Also, like Wendy, I *loved* how Clark and Lois made the "discovery" as to
who was destined for who. (trying not to spoil here!) However, it makes me
wonder about what kind of childhood these kids will have, with their
parents knowing who they're going to marry. The temptation to push them
together, encourage them to play together, etc. would be incredible, and
possibly self-defeating. I hope you intend to address this issue in future
fanfics!

Good work, Irene, and keep it up!  :)

Hazel
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In North Carolina resterants have to have lisences to sell liquor.  But
they CAN serve it if someone brings there own.  There will be an
"opening" charge just for them to open the bottle and serve it.
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As for "brown-bagging," in not-very-rural-at-all Southern California, it
means bringing a sack lunch.  I have never heard of it being used in
reference to liquor; and am also unfamiliar with restaraunts allowing you to
bring your own alcohol.  "B.Y.O.B.;" now that's a different story. . .
Caroline

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Hazel, thank you so much for the praise.  What nice feedback.  I sure
hope that people are not expecting a continuation of this right away.
Real Life is interfering too much for me to get to the computer as
frequently as I would like.

In answer to your question re an autopsy - I don't know the procedure
in the U.S. but in Canada, I believe an autopsy is always performed in
the case of an unexplained death, even in a hospital setting.

Secondly, I do intend to address the relationship between all the
children (including the ones not yet born) and will include their
interaction with their parents and with their (honourary) uncles.

Thanks once again for the feedback.

Take care,
Irene
sirenegold@yahoo.com

--- Hazel <zis-s@ACTCOM.CO.IL> wrote:
> Irene, this is marvelous, as always. I look forward
> to the continuation...
> and BTW, I think we've all been expecting Part 2,
> etc., to show up right
> away, and that's why no one has offered their kudos
> yet. You're spoiling
> us, Irene. :)
>
> Two questions, and I don't think they're spoilers:
> Is it *routine* and
> *necessary* to have an autopsy performed when a
> person dies in a hospital?
> This is news to me.
>
> Also, like Wendy, I *loved* how Clark and Lois made
> the "discovery" as to
> who was destined for who. (trying not to spoil
> here!) However, it makes me
> wonder about what kind of childhood these kids will
> have, with their
> parents knowing who they're going to marry. The
> temptation to push them
> together, encourage them to play together, etc.
> would be incredible, and
> possibly self-defeating. I hope you intend to
> address this issue in future
> fanfics!
>
> Good work, Irene, and keep it up!  :)
>
> Hazel
>

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Hi Wendy,

Thank you so much for the positive feedback. And my acknowledging you
is very much necessary.  I felt awful that I left your name out of my
intros to 'Firestorm' and 'Broccoli Dancing'.

And when are we going to be reading your next story? (hint, hint!)

Take care,
Irene
sirenegold@yahoo.com

--- Wendy Richards <ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK> wrote:
> Hi Irene!
>
> It's been a l-o-n-g day at work, and so I'm only now
> getting around
> to commenting on 'Starfire and Sunstorm Part One'.
> What can I say? I
> thought it was wonderful. Exactly the kind of
> continuation of
> 'Firestorm' I'd hoped for; more explanation of what
> happens next in
> Lois and Clark's lives and building towards the
> events in 'Firestorm'.
>
> s
> p
> o
> i
> l
> e
> r
>
> s
> p
> a
> c
> e
>
> I loved the way you dealt with Jimmy; his guilt, his
> sense of loss
> over Lee, and the way in which Bernie Klein behaved
> towards him
> afterwards. The thought that Jimmy is becoming a
> surrogate uncle to
> his girlfriend's mother is really WAFFy.
>
> As for the way you allowed L&C to guess which of
> their sons becomes
> Lee's father - that was so sweet!
>
> More, more, please!!
>
> (Oh, and thanks for the credit, though it was
> completely unnecessary!)
>
> Wendy
>
> ----------------------
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This is a post I used to make in the old old days of LOISCLA. It is a post
about advertising, selling and/or buying items via this list.

First, it's not against the rules, so go for it ;) Second, however, buyers
should be cautious. There have been fans burned in the past by someone
advertising something that was neither delivered nor money refunded. The
prospective buyers sent in their checks or money orders, found that they'd
been cashed, and still, months later, had not received the item or refund.

I'm notoriously slow sending things I've promised to people, but if money is
involved, I *never* cash the check until I've sent the item.  There's no
excuse for cashing someone's check and then not acting in good faith by
either sending them the item or a refund if the item can no longer be
provided. If a delay occurs for some reason, then *tell* them that and give
them a realistic deadline or give them the option of a refund.

I'm happy to say, that so far, I have not had a problem with anyone reneging
on delivery of a promised item.  They have always been more speedy than I in
terms of transaction time.  However, I know it has happened to others, and
it
is for them that I make this post.  If you are someone selling items by
advertising them via this list, then be fair in your practices and treat
your
buyers as you would like to be treated. Don't make them have to hound you
month after month for an answer. Believe me, no one likes being put in that
position.

A friendly reminder from the management ;)

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On 2 Jun 99, at 15:21, Yvonne Connell wrote:

> Can anyone help, please?
>
> 1. What time do bars in US cities usually close?

----Most of them that I've heard of have "last call" about 1:30 a.m., with
closing time being at 2:00 a.m.

> 2. We have 'landlords' in pubs.  What's the US equivalent?
------Bartenders do the serving.  Some clubs/bars, where there
might be the more-than-occasional bout of rowdiness, have
"bouncers" - big burly guys who lurk around to throw out
troublemakers .

> 3. Am I right in thinking there's some sort of law against drinking
> spirits like whisky in public, hence the phrase 'brown bagging it'?

------I've seen others' response to this - "brownbag" is usually used
in conjunction with bringing a small brown bag to work with your
lunch in it.  However, I lived in Houston for 10 years - and in Texas,
it's not illegal to have open liquor containers in cars.  There were a
*lot* of 7-11s and Open Pantry stores (convenience stores) just
outside the main downtown area, right off the freeway.  Cars would
pull in, buy a beer or two, and drink it on the way home.  (One
reason I wasn't fond of Houston).  Anyhow, they'd get the beers in
smaller brown bags that would just hold one can - so they couldn't
be seen drinking beer while they were driving.  (The actual
*drinking* in a car wasn't legal, but unless you were driving *very*
erratically, it wasn't often enforced.)  I did hear people refer to that
as "brown bagging"....

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In a message dated 06/02/1999 3:37:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rtenha@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<< I've also never heard of a
 restaurant that didn't serve liquor, but let people bring it in >>

Isn't that sort of like trying to sneak your own popcorn into a movie
theater?

--Laurie (also in the brown-bagging means lunch crowd)
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At 11:00 AM 06/02/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>Debby-
>
>I'm really enjoying "My Journal" so far- worth waiting for :) I have a few
>questions, though, which may or may not be spoilers...
>
>First, on Clark's resume, it says: "B.A., 1994, Journalism, Kansas State
>University." However, in part 6, Clark writes, "I returned with a urine
>sample which I'm confident shows nothing unusual because the ones I gave
for
>the football team at Midwest U were never questioned." You name two
different
>colleges, unless KSU is also called Midwest, or unless Clark started out at
>Midwest U and transferred to Kansas State, but in that case he'd probably
put
>both on his resume. I'm not sure if this is a deliberate inconsistency or
>not, but I thought I'd point it out anyway.

Oh, "deliberate inconsistency" is a good name for a typo :) Everyone has my
permission to change one or the other. I think I'll pick Midwest U...
because
it's easier for me to change the resume than the story itself ( /me rushes
to
change and upload yet another version of the resume...) there. I've changed
it
to "Midwest University, Kansas" (though actually as Kansas isn't in the
middle
of west anything, it should be Plains State University maybe... but I think
Midwest U was used on the show.

>Sandy wrote:
><<< I do want to ask though, did you intend for the dates in the story to
be
>different from the TV show, e.g., born in 1972 instead of 1966(?); arrival
in
>Metropolis in 1999 instead of 1993, etc.?>>>
>
>I couldn't find where they were in the story (though I'll admit I didn't
look
>very well), but I like these dates ;) Puts Clark closer to my age <g>

Yeah, and if I write a follow up series, Superman can tackle Y2K...

snip re bus fairs.  I had occasion to ride public transportation from SeaTac
(the airport half way between Seatle and Tacoma) into Seattle to catch a
train,
some ten years ago. I don't recall the price other than it was okay :) In
the
city itself, busses were free to ride up to certain area, at the edge of
which
was the train station. There was no fare charged in order to encourage
people
not to drive their cars into town. Very clever!

>-Christy (newly non-stressed and enjoying a short break before returning to
>campus for summer research)
> Attalanta@aol.com

Keep your eyes open for topics of interest to L&C...

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
will post Day 2 on Thursday...
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At 03:15 PM 06/02/1999 +0100, Yvonne wrote:
>Debby,
>
>Just wanted to add my thanks and congratulations to the chorus.  This is a
>great idea, and I love all the detail you've put into it.  It looks to me
>like you've set yourself quite a daunting task, keeping up with the quality
>and content of Day 1, but I hope you have as much fun writing it as I did
>reading it.

Whew! And I thought Day 1 was a little boring... ;) but a) one has to
establish
groundwork, and b) I know what's coming :) (a lot more than you think ;)

>S
>P
>O
>I
>L
>E
>R
>
>S
>P
>A
>C
>E
>
>Sandy wrote:
>> >Since you brought up the issue of typos:
>> >
>> >In CK's resume, which *shouldn't* be free form, there are two typos --
>> >adventurer and familiarity.  Also, shouldn't you indicate the year he
>> >received his degree?
>>
>I just assumed that Clark had made a couple of mistakes in his resume :)
>Although, I guess that was a bit unfair of me, since Clark is a pretty
>meticulous chap and he would probably check, recheck and check again
>anything as important as his CV (what we call resumes).  Unlike some of the
>CVs I've been sent with job applications - you'd think the people sending
>them didn't really want the job at all.

They were just stupid typos on my part. The only thing CK can get away with
in
a journal is relaxed, babbly writing. I want the most correct version of his
resume as possible, and as typo-free version of the story, too.

We type a lot of resumes for people where I work (a typing company... which
explains why I type fast and correct fast... but still make typos after
coming
home to type after typing all day... unless I can scan [I love
scanning...]),
anyhow, the people we create resumes for are usually very concerned about
how
they look. 9 out of 10 will have no clue how a resume really should look
(but
then neither do we; we rely on logic). One can understand when a student or
maybe a clerk comes in with no knowledge, but we've gotten bankers and
management types... who probably relied on their secretaries ;)

>Can't wait for Thursday's journal entry...

Assuming we don't get blown away (it's very windy today in Albuquerque) I'll
probably have it on my site by 6am, Mountain Time (complete with two
attachments), and on the L&CFanfic site (w/o attachments) about that time,
too.  A Thursday/Sunday schedule seems good to me.

>Yvonne

My sister-in-law is an Yvonne :)

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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In a message dated 6/2/99 9:19:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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<<
 << I've also never heard of a
  restaurant that didn't serve liquor, but let people bring it in >> >>

Here in the Bible Belt ( KY is on the edge) there are more dry counties than
wet ones.  There are lots of places ( restaurants and country clubs ) that
allow people to bring in their own liquor and will sell them mixers and ice,
etc.  People frequently bring the whisky in brown paper bags, to somewhat
conceal them in the car.
"Brown bagging" though refers to one's lunch.

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In a message dated 6/2/99 7:19:26 PM CST, Larus2407@AOL.COM writes:

<<
 << I've also never heard of a
  restaurant that didn't serve liquor, but let people bring it in >>

 Isn't that sort of like trying to sneak your own popcorn into a movie
theater?
  >>

I went to college in a little town that was *dry* at the time.  Most of the
larger restaurants had a small  liquor store - they were all called "Hole in
the Wall" - right around the corner, for their patrons to purchase beer to
bring into the restaurant.  Waiters would bring iced mugs to the table for
beer.  Seemed to work pretty well.

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Here's the next day. It is also available as a Word97 doc or an Rich Text
Format doc on my site,

         ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark Stories MyJournal
Day02Wednesday

These documents have words italicized. Additional material in the form of
two
.jpgs is also available to compliment the story somewhat.  Be sure to read
Day
1 before Day 2.

As for the emailed version, I noticed in the last section that the tabs look
a
little strange (some are shorter than others) and it may happen elsewhere in
the submission, but I can't find the place in my email program to fix that.
Feel free to fix that if it's confusing (or get the version on my site)

Debby :)
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TITLE: My Journal
          Day 2, Wednesday, May 4, PART (01/08)
          AUTHOR Debby Stark, Debby@swcp.com
          RATING P/PG-13 (for some innuendo)
          FEEDBACK Comments welcome in all forums
          No Editing please (though you can fix typos)
          SUMMARY  Read Day 1 before Day 2. Clark Kent's adventures in
Metropolis continue. All portions of this story are or will be available on
my
site, ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark MyJournal

All characters below belong to DC Comics and Warner Brothers unless they
are my
own creations. Story by Debby Stark, Debby@swcp.com. Previous parts
available
>from author or at ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark / Stories / My
Journal.
Submitted on June 3, 1999

                    My Journal

Wednesday, May 4

          I got to work ahead of time today, at about 7:30, with hopes of
finishing the filing I started yesterday. I decided it was safe enough to
leave
my suitcase, clothes and books at the flophouse, but took my laptop to work
in
case I needed it.
          Mr. Mounts wasn't on duty; he must arrive at eight. Mr. Qureshi
checked my name against a list, looked at the photo ID Personnel made for me
yesterday, and said I could "go on up." I really *am* employed, it wasn't a
dream!
          On the third-floor landing, off to the left of the elevator doors
but
before the entrance to the coffee room, is a table. On it was a stack of
this
morning's Daily Planet. Many of the people getting out of the elevator with
me
picked up copies, so I did, too.
          I went down into the Pit and weaved my way through the throng,
greeting people as I went. Most of them were hard at work or getting ready
to
be. Some were talking to or IRCing people in Rome, London, Moscow and more,
and
at least half of the conversations were work related. Many people looked up
and
nodded and smiled at me. Some said, "Good morning...?" and I supplied the
"Clark," while others remembered my name or variations on it, close enough.
I
remembered all of their names.
          My desk was still where I had left it, and some of the stacks of
paper had been moved about and shortened, meaning I didn't have quite so
much
filing to do. I wish I could have done it quickly, but thinking that way
usually sounds The Frog Warning and I stop and check out my surroundings
and,
sure enough, witnesses abound.
          After convincing my file drawer to open, I put my laptop in it. I
draped my jacket over the back of my chair and resumed filing until my
self-imposed deadline, eight. In twenty minutes I got about half the job
done.
I sat down at my desk then - carefully because the chair isn't very stable -
and I opened my newspaper.
          In section two, the City Section, on page two, upper left-hand
corner
and easily visible, was the article I was looking for. (I have scanned it
and
you can see it as "Freak.jpg")
          It was nice, but I think I could have written it better. I would
have
sought out more witnesses and talked to the bus driver. I would also have
investigated the pedestrians I saw trying to *enter* the bus almost as soon
as
it stopped.
          The important part though, after everyone involved being okay, is
that there's no mention of me. I tore out the story and I'll start a new
scrapbook with it and the paperwork I was given by the Personnel Department.
I
can do that on Friday. When we talked yesterday, Mom and Dad invited me to
fly
home for dinner. Since I don't really expect to have a social life going by
then, I accepted the invitation. I'll show them the clipping then, too,
since I
decided to leave the bus incident in this journal I sent them last night.
They'll probably have read about it by then, anyhow.
          Mr. White descended on the Pit at eight o'clock sharp.
"Descended" is
the right word, too. No one stopped working to turn and watch him, but they
didn't need to. They could feel him, everybody could, and with his arrival,
the
relaxed, almost unfocused tenor of the Pit changed, tightened, and the beat
picked up. The work day had started and staffers were eager to tackle it.
I've
been an editor and while I got along fine with those I supervised and I
learned
how to feel the mood of a work place, I never inspired a wave of enthusiasm
like that.
          Maybe Mr. White does go home because he was wearing a different
suit,
shirt and tie, and he looked rested. I wonder if people will think I don't
go
home since I only have two suit jackets and two pairs of good slacks, three
long-sleeve shirts (two white, one blue), and a half dozen ties. I need new
clothing for this job. I get the feeling my first paycheck's going to be
spent
fast and I'll have to break into my savings.
          He greeted everyone, encouraging the day to get started. As he
passed
near my desk, or rather he passed the other end of the filing cabinets, I
stood
up to acknowledge him. He saw me and said, "Oh, yes, Kent, glad to see you.
Nearly got that filing done, I see."
          "Yes, sir."
          "People ought to put things away."
          "Maybe they will as soon as they realize I'm using this desk."
They
can use that "reserved" desk in the middle of the room if they're in too
much
of a hurry to put things away.
          "Nah, they'll just pile everything up on top of the file cabinets.
I'm sure we're supposed to have a clerk on it. I'll see what's happened to
her.
Or him." He turned his attention to what he was carrying: a clipboard and my
portfolio, which he gave back to me. "I made a copy of that logger story
for my
files."
          "Oh, good, sir. I'm pleased."
          He grunted a "Yeah," then looked at me as though actually seeing
me.
"Sit down, sit down, nobody stands up for me around here at this time of
morning..."
          Oh? I could have disputed that, seeing that almost everyone had
perked up with his entrance, but I didn't think he would hear me, as new as
I
was on his staff. I sat down instead.
          He looked at my desk again and frowned. "Did Olsen show you where
the
coffee is?"
          "Yes, sir."
          "You..." he waved a hand; it helped him say, "you don't drink it?"
          Ah, he had noted the lack of a coffee cup. "I do, sir, but all the
cups I saw had people's names on them and I don't have one yet. A cup, I
mean."
I can get one with my second paycheck, though if I mention it to Mom, I bet
she'll give me half a dozen. Cups, not names.
          "Tell Olsen to show you where the cups for guests are."
          "Yes, sir."
          "You're not a guest, but if you want to drink coffee, it's there
and
it's free. A lot of seasoned reporters think they have to drink the blackest
coffee made. I guess it puts hair on their chests. And that's just the
women.
Some reporters start guzzling it first thing in the morning."
          "Yes, sir." A lot of reporters and clerks were already drinking
it. I
found out later in the morning that it is *strong* coffee - they call it Mad
Dog Coffee for reasons I haven't asked about yet. Its strength probably
explains why some staffers tend to bounce a little.
          "But if you don't want to drink any, you don't have to."
          No, I better drink it; maybe he wasn't kidding about the
hair-on-the-chest side effect. I didn't say that though. "I understand,
sir." I
like coffee, and other than the hint of chlorine from the water and
chemicals
added to the coffee grounds by the manufacturers, the coffee served in the
Pit
already smelled quite flavorful.
          He patted the area roughly over his spleen. "It's bad for some
people, so..."
          "I imagine it is, sir."
          "All right. About this article on the loggers. Get some file
folders..." He looked at my desk again. No sign of *empty* file folders.
"Talk
to Pat, the office manager; she'll get you set up with supplies. Start a
file
folder and put that logging article," he pointed at my portfolio, "in it.
Eventually I'll want you to follow up on it, to see what's happening now."
          "Sir? Do you often send reporters out of the country?" Could a
City
Editor do that? If so, I suppose I would be perfect for the job, but I'm not
eager to leave town again so soon.
          "No, Kent, we have stringers for that. You'll stay here in town
because I suspect your follow-up story is here, too, in town. Luthor
Industries
World Headquarters is here in Metropolis, and I always like to keep an eye
on
it..." He said that in a grave manner, but then he seemed to back away so
that
his follow up was more inclusive: "...and on other multinational
corporations,
of course."
          "Oh, I see." Or I think I do. What Luthor International
Environment
Conservation Unlimited's parent company is doing now could be interesting.
After some violence (I hadn't foreseen it but no one had) and the bad
publicity
following it, LIEC renounced its logging claims and promised to build a
school
and a hospital on the land it had already cleared. Last fall when I checked
into this, the new projects had not yet started and government paperwork was
being blamed. Representatives of the Perdido tribe I talked to about that
were
skeptical. There must be many multinational corporations with headquarters
here
in Metropolis. Maybe some of them need investigating. That's not quite my
area
of expertise, not what I want to base my career on - I want to write
positive
human-interest stories - but since this was only my second day on the job, I
can see that Mr. White is determining where I'll best fit into his newsroom.

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          "It's not something we'll put you on today, though," he continued.
"We're going to start you with easier things."
          "Yes, sir."
          "Until you get to know your way around the city and begin
meeting...
certain people."
          Which has to mean "until I get contacts," but that's completely
understandable. He doesn't want my face to become known outside the paper,
but
I have to get to know certain people, sources, subjects - I have to learn a
great deal about Metropolis to see how I can best use my talents to help the
city. "Yes, sir."
          "All right." He began to turn, then he turned back. "I'll tell
Olsen
to get you a computer and get you hooked up to the network. He should have
already done that."
          "Thank you, sir."
          He nodded, turned again, continued on his way... then paused once
more and this time when he turned back, he pointed at me. "The budget
meeting's
at 8:15. Be there. I want you to observe. I may even have an assignment for
you."
          Wow, my very first budget meeting *and* the possibility of an
assignment! "Yes, sir!"
          I spent the next six minutes doing more filing and clearing off my
desk to prepare for the supplies and computer.
          Jimmy rushed down the ramp and into the Pit at 8:12. I could hear
him
arrive, his feet pounding. He greeted people mostly by saying "Whoops!
Sorry!"
He was questioned about missing photographs and other material people
expected
>from the darkroom. He placated them with hurried assurances, shouted "Hi,
CK!"
at me as he rushed by the other end of the file cabinets, came back, said,
"Hey, did you get a donut?"
          He was holding one now; he had been empty handed only ten seconds
earlier.
          "No, I didn't know there were any."
          "Well, there are. In the coffee room." He indicated the direction
it
was in with a toss of his head. "I'd show you but I have to go to the budget
meeting." He pointed at me in exactly the same way Mr. White had. "Are you
going?"
          I said, "You bet!" put the last stack of files back on my desk,
and
joined him. "Where is it?"
          Budget meetings are held in a conference room. The room has a long
table in the center and naturally Mr. White sits in the largest chair, at
the
end of the table. From there he can see everyone and everyone can see him.
All
the reporters and some clerks and others present in the newsroom crowd in,
with
some taking what must be favorite seats. However, there was one chair, at
Mr.
White's right hand, that remained empty throughout the 20-minute meeting. No
one moved to take it, and there were no comments about anyone being missing,
either. I stood way in the back near the exit and next to Jimmy, and I could
easily see the whole room and hear every remark made, and no one said
anything
about the conspicuously empty chair.
          The budget meeting proceeded quickly. It started with "good
mornings"
shared around the room by all and moved on to Mr. White's review of the
news of
the day before and how he expected it to impact today's editions of the
paper.
He queried each reporter about the story he or she was working on and, if
they
didn't have one, he gave them one.
          He reached Steve Hanley a little more than halfway around the
table.
          "Is the wrecking ball still going to fall on the theatre today?"
          "It sure is." Mr. Hanley didn't look happy. "Late yesterday the
judge
denied the petition by the protesters." His tone of voice told me he must
have
been rooting for the side that lost. "The hulking behemoth of urban renewal
will not be stopped."
          "Sorry I had to edit that out of your copy."
          Mr. Hanley shrugged. He didn't look disappointed or as though he
took
the decision personally. "Next time I'll make it a quote."
          Mr. White nodded. "So, they get started at..."
          "It's scheduled for nine."
          "Well, the protesters aren't going to take it lying down."
          "I can guarantee it. Though they *might* lie down in front of the
bulldozers."
          "They might indeed. Get back over there. Take..." He looked around
the room and pinned one person. "Take Olsen with you."
          When Mr. White looked away, Jimmy grinned and whispered, "Yes!" He
glanced at me and saw that I was smiling for him, too.
          "And..."
          Not surprisingly, Mr. White's eyes passed over me - but then he
looked back at me. "And take Kent. This is a good chance for him to start
seeing the city."
          Mr. Hanley looked at me. He's a trim, healthy looking man in his
late
thirties.  He has been with the Planet for eight years and before that he
worked for a newspaper in Boston covering arts-related stories. He nodded at
me, noncommittal. I wondered briefly what the bottoms of his shoes looked
like,
but almost as quickly I shooed the thought away. I *refuse* to expect my
peers
- my *colleagues* - to treat me disrespectfully solely because I'm new on
the
job.
          Stop me before I pun again!
          He looked back at Mr. White and said, "Okay."
          After the meeting adjourned, Jimmy and I followed Mr. Hanley out
and
down into the Pit. He told us, "Meet me at the elevator in five minutes."
          I nodded and went to my desk for my jacket. I had only been away
for
20 minutes and already someone had put a cardboard computer-paper box on my
desk. As I was opening it to see if there were any clues about the box's
origin, Jimmy caught up with me. He had donned a vest and put in it and in
his
belt a variety of camera bodies, lenses and film. He looked like a
professional. He asked, "What's that?"
          "I was just checking..."
          The box contained office supplies: a ream of paper, two stenopads,
pens, pencils, paperclips, and more, and a check-off list with a yellow
sticky
note informing me to verify the inventory and return the list to Pat, the
office manager.
          I was pleased. Soon I could unpack the box later and make my desk
look occupied. As Jimmy watched, I pulled on my jacket and said, "I'm
ready. Do
we drive or walk? Do you know what Mr. Hanley prefers to do?"
          "It's only a few blocks away. We can walk. Most times the budget
says
we walk or take the Metro or a bus. We can take taxis sometimes, like for
breaking news, and sometimes if a person has his own car or motorcycle, like
I
do, the paper will pay for mileage if it's approved first."
          I nodded. There is a brief mention about mileage in the Company
Handbook, but not in this detail.
          Jimmy continued, "I do know for sure Steve'll want you to take
notes."
          Ah? Oh, about what we see and who we talk to. "I have a good
memory."
I'm sure that most people do, they just don't seem to exercise them.
          "Yeah, right. That'll work in Kansas where probably *nobody* says
anything important..."
          Oddly (to me, anyway), he paused there and watched me, as though
waiting for my reaction on purpose.
          All I could think to do was shrug and agree: "Life *is* a little
slower there than here." It was easier to say that than explain my good
memory.

         "Yeah..."
          I could certainly take along one of the stenopads and a pen for
effect. As I pulled them out, I decided to inject a little humor into the
situation. "I have the feeling it's slower in *Calcutta* than it is here."
          He looked at me blankly. I guess my injection didn't hit a vein.
"Ah,
yeah, Calcutta, right."
          Maybe he didn't realize why I was able to compare the two cities.
"I
was there last year."
          "Oh. Well. I've heard that Kansas is..." This required a moment of
thought. Creative thought? I don't know why his expression gave me that
impression. "It's the armpit of America. *Every*one says so."
          I wondered if I looked blank now. "I've never heard that."
          "I'm not saying it's *true*, I've hardly ever been outside of
Metropolis, but if someone said that to your face, what would you do? Get
upset? Yell at them? Punch them out?"
          That made me smile for some reason. I don't dare punch anyone out.
Somehow knowing that, accepting that, it's easier for me not to even
contemplate doing it. When I was younger, in my teens and hormonal and all
that, and facing the rare bully, it was hard to contain myself, but it's
just
not an issue anymore. I think I'm getting better every day at deflecting
attacks of all kinds. Not that I'm often attacked. Jimmy's "attack" was the
first one in a long time.
          I deflected. "No, I'd just wonder if they have ever been to the
state." People do have a way of judging things they've never experienced;
it's
easier than making the effort to discover facts. "If they haven't, maybe I'd
invite them to Smallville for one of my mom's home-cooked meals." I smiled,
eased passed him and headed for the elevator.
          "Huh? But what if it was..." He sprinted ahead of me, turned, and
faced me. We were almost in the middle of the Pit, near the InfoCenter. and
people were having to detour around us. I'm sure they were listening, too.
"What if it was a couple of guys, big guys, big *mean* guys, and they were
saying nasty things about Kansas - *and* about your mother?"
          He gave every indication of being serious. Other than it looked
like
him, this wasn't the same fellow who I ate lunch with yesterday.
          I tried to put this "conversation" to rest. "They have the right
to
their opinions and as long as they aren't hurting anyone--"
          "But what if they *grabbed* you," he growled, "and threatened to
beat
you up?"
          "Well, I'm sure I'd..." I noticed now that several people had made
excuses to stop at the InfoCenter and that they were pretending not to
listen.
I told Jimmy, "I'd react appropriately."
          "You'd... 'react appropriately.'"
          He didn't have to sound so sarcastic... But his intense
observation
of me made me think of something suddenly. Sometimes people come to me for
advice. I'm not sure why, but they do. Maybe that explained what was
happening.
          I put my arm around his shoulder, coaxed him back on track, and to
avoid sharing this with the rest of the newsroom, I asked him quietly,
"Jimmy,
has something like this happened to you?" Maybe he was trying to tell me he
needed a friend with whom to talk about it. "Are you in some kind of
trouble?"

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          "Huh? No!" He pulled away, smiling, uneasy, as though I had caught
him. I think if we had been alone, he might have told me he was indeed in
trouble. "Not at all - but things like that *can* happen in this city. I'm
just..." He waved his hand, an explanatory gesture that didn't help.
"...trying
to see if you'd survive, you know, and give you some advice."
          "Oh." As Mom might say, "Uh-huh..." It was time to change the
subject
so he would feel more comfortable. "Thanks. Do you have any idea if this
assignment will be a dangerous one?" If people were expected to lie down in
front of bulldozers...
          "Nah, it's all in a day's work."
          Following Steve downstairs and out of the building, we headed east
toward what he explained was the city's planned new "fine arts district."
It's
a "joint pet project" dreamed up by city fathers and Luthor North American
Entertainment. Unfortunately, the project requires a great deal of land -
"More
than the Arts Council originally asked for," Steve said. "They could only
afford to purchase about half a block, but then Luthor's money started
pouring
in..." The expanded plans meant more land could be purchased and the
buildings
on the site either renovated or razed.
          One of the buildings is, soon to be was, the Sarah Bernhardt
Theatre,
built at the turn of the century, and "Frankly," Steve said, "it's falling
apart. I'm surprised it hasn't come down on its own already, but it's become
the rallying point for those protesting the devastation of their
neighborhood.
You see, nobody who thought up this grand scheme consulted anyone in any of
the
neighborhoods in any meaningful way."
          Landlords and business owners were being paid off, he was certain,
but he couldn't prove it. Tenants and businesses had been relocated - this
was
easy to see - but Steve said the planners were offering pittances in
recompense
to those who could not afford the legal hassles inherent in demanding more
money. He had heard about but could not confirm that there had been quiet
threats of condemnation and court action against residents who simply didn't
want to leave for any amount of money.
          "That's life in the big city for you," Jimmy told me.
          It's the kind of thing I've heard about happening "somewhere
else."
But there I was, in "the big city," taking a trolley toward what sounded
like
an avoidable human tragedy. I asked Steve quietly, hoping he could hear me
over
the street racket around us, "Have you been writing about the corruption?"
          "No," he said just as quietly, "I've been writing a series on the
whole project, from its inception to its conclusion." He looked annoyed.
"I've
been doing everything I can think of to turn it into a hard-hitting
investigative piece, but I can't find enough proof of collusion and buy offs
and threats among all the accusations and rumors. Everyone knows it's
happening
but no one wants to see their name in the paper in connection with it. While
Perry is letting me keep looking, he won't print anything accusatory without
absolute proof..." he sighed, "and considering the experiences we've had, I
can't say that I blame him."
          During our ride I tried to ignore the constant variety of city
sounds
backgrounding our conversation. However, soon whole new sounds drew my
attention: I heard the swelling fanfare of singing and chanting mixed in
with
the whistle and roar of heavy equipment. These sounds greeted us on our
arrival
at the Sarah Bernhardt Theatre.
          It was a large, three-story-tall brick structure. The brick must
have
been at one time a ruddy red color but nearly a century of city soot and
decades of neglect had darkened that and also taken a toll on the wooden
frames
of the windows and doors and the shingles visible at the edges of the roof.
Steve was right; the place looked like at any moment it might heave a sigh
of
relief and collapse. Too bad, I thought, that the protesters hadn't picked a
more stable structure to support their protest.
          Maybe the spirit of the people rallying around to save the
building
was what kept it standing. The police report I saw this afternoon said there
were almost 100 protestors, but I think there were twice that many. They
were
carrying signs that demanded that the demolition stop and that the
historical
monument be rescued and restored. One even proclaimed, in a line drawing,
that
the mayor and Lex Luthor were in bed with each other, only such close
friends
could plan the dirty work.
          The next biggest group of people was that made up of employees of
the
demolition contractor. They looked like ordinary people, paid by the hour
probably, without a villain among them. (Occasionally I still find TV
stereotypes coming to mind when I face unfamiliar situations.) They were
just
trying do their jobs, which currently included moving equipment into place
to
raze the building. When I interviewed two of them later on in the morning,
they
told me they were bewildered by the protest: the building was a health
hazard
that sheltered drug dealers and pimps. Didn't the people see they'd be
better
off without it?
          The supervisors and a contingent of police officers were standing
between the protesters and the heavy equipment. Steve pointed out and waved
at
several members of the media, and I saw the occasional camera flash and one
TV
station doing an interview.  All this activity had drawn quite a crowd of
passersby and gawkers.
          This was exciting. On a smaller scale it was like the antiwar and
antinuke marches Mom organized and participated in back in the mid 1960s
(I've
seen her pictures; she takes a good mug shot). It was thrilling to know that
I
could flash my press card and go wherever just about wherever I wanted to do
what Steve ordered: "Interview people, get a feel for the mood of the crowd.
I'll be talking to Luthor's people to see if I can get anything new. Jimmy
will
roam."
          We split up and I headed for the biggest clot of protesters. They
were trying to blockade the arrival of a wrecking ball and they were doing a
good job. Its driver threw up his hands dramatically and began to turn off
his
machine. If I am right about his being paid by the hour as long as he was
trying to work, he probably wasn't *that* disappointed.
          Unfortunately for the cheering protesters, they didn't realize
that
the threatened use of the big, impressive wrecking ball was a ruse. As I
walked
past them, looking for a protester or laborer calm enough to be approached
for
an interview, I saw an idling bulldozer. It was a good thirty yards away
around
the corner of and pointed at the theatre. As I watched, a man sprinted up to
the machine, climbed into the cabin and revved up the motor. He would only
have
to drive a few yards before he hit the side of the theatre. As soon as the
first damage was done to the building, the protesters would lose whatever
edge
they had.
          If Steve is right, and I have no reason to think he isn't, then
the
project was and is basically unfair. Maybe that one building was a health
hazard, but maybe the money being spent to knock it down could have been
better
spent to renovate it, like the protesters advocated.
          Now that I've type that, I see that the question really was,
"Should
I do anything about it?" I was there as a reporter, not an advocate for
either
side. I did not and do not want to be a headline maker. "Reporter Arrested
for
Rabblerousing" - Make that "Former Reporter..."
          However, I wanted to help a little bit. That's where being a quiet
face in the crowd has its advantages; I felt secure that I could act totally
unnoticed. Besides, what did I do that looked unusual? Nothing. I just
lowered
my glasses for a moment, that's all anyone would have seen had they noticed
me.
          What they couldn't see was that I looked through the bulldozer's
engine casing and saw quite a few typical engine parts. Bulldozers don't
seem
much different from tractors. I needed a part that I could laser zap, and it
had to be visible through the grate on the side of the engine casing because
I
can't zap through anything solid (the ability doesn't seem to be
psychokinetic,
which at times like this would be more useful). In a moment I saw a hose
that
met all my qualifications, I burned a hole in it, working on it until the
hose
blew a few moments later and released a torrent of steam. Beside it was a
fan
belt, and when the cascading engine failure caused the belt to stop, I
sliced
that in two as well.
          The noise of the engine seizing up attracted the attention of the
protesters, many of whom streamed around the corner and passed me (I jumped
to
one side, nearer the building), to converge on the bulldozer. They began
beating on it with their signs and cheering about its death. The driver
escaped, frightened but unharmed. The police moved in to manage the
situation,
but I think the protesters were prepared for that.
          To make sure the demolition contractor wouldn't fall back on Plan
B,
I stepped out of sight of the police, found a good spot from which to peruse
the wrecking ball, and I pulled the same tricks on its engine. I know all
the
parts were easy to fix, but the fix meant opening the engine housing,
inspecting the engines, calling out for the parts, cleaning up the engines,
and
installing and testing the parts. Sabotage was suspected, but while I was on
site I didn't hear any of the authorities come to a positive conclusion
about
how the engines had been damaged when no one had touched them.
Interestingly,
several police officers wanted the other heavy equipment checked for signs
of
sabotage, meaning the delay would be longer than that caused by the company
being out two machines alone. Were some of the police on the side of the
protesters?
          So that's how I slowed things down and evened out the odds for a
little while. It's like when we directed that tribe of monkeys into the
loggers' camp and the little animals tore up everything in sight. Act of
God or
act of Tree People hiding globs of peanut butter in opportune places
throughout
the camp the night before? You be the judge.
          But, as Dad might say, no good deed goes unpunished. Maybe I was
feeling a touch of unjustified pride in my accomplishment. It was time for
me
to get to work, to doing what the Daily Planet wanted to pay me for, but I
was
thwarted. I prefer to sit quietly with my subjects, side by side they are
comfortable with that, and let them tell their story with as little coaxing
as
possible.
          That was out of the question here: everyone involved in the
protest
was so busy suddenly that I couldn't see any way to pin down one of them
for an
in-depth interview.
          That's when I decided to look at the building itself. I've done
some
construction work and I thought maybe I could see some solution, some way to
save the building that others had over looked.

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          Okay, that was unlikely, but into the Sarah Bernhardt Theatre I
went.
          In preparation for razing it, the contractor had removed
everything
possible so what I found was mostly bare walls. The public part of the
theatre
had been stripped of seats and carpets. The wooden stage was still up front,
but there were no curtains, no lights, no backdrops, and no props.
          However, there was a small, elderly woman up on the stage. She was
reciting lines from The Cherry Orchard by Anton Chekhov. She was putting her
heart and soul into it and doing a fantastic job. What a way to say goodbye
to
the ancient theatre. Mother Nature helped: in the upper reaches of this
area of
the building there were windows, most likely originally for ventilation.
They
were open, or perhaps the glass had been removed or broken out, and light,
filtered through hazy Metropolis air, was gently illuminating the dramatic
soliloquy.
          She paused after proclaiming, "All of it, all of it dressed in
white!
My lovely orchard!" I thought she was catching her breath and would continue
but no, she simply looked into the distance.
          I couldn't help but applaud. If I hadn't, I don't think her
performance would have been complete.
          She peered in my direction and called out, her voice tough, "Who's
there?
          That's when I realized she hadn't been able to see me. I stepped
into
the light. "Just a fan."
          While then I thought she was at one time an actress, it became
abundantly clear that she was also a protester. She straightened her back
and
announced clearly: "I'm not leaving.  Not until I finish."
          Like I could or would tell her to move on. "I'm just a passerby. I
have no authority to tell you to leave." If anything I was dressed like one
of
her comrades, not one of the contractor's employees or those supervising the
demolition. "Mind if I watch? I've always loved this play." Which wasn't
quite
true; I love a lot of plays, but The Cherry Orchard is not on the top of my
list because it's so difficult for most theatre troops to pull off.
          She gave me a narrow look. "You know it?"
          When I confirmed it, she relaxed a touch and lamented, "Kids these
days barely know who Shakespeare is..." Then she frowned, suspicious again.
"Maybe you're just... You have an accent. Where are you from? - And don't
lie
to me, I'm an expert at accents."
          "I'm from Kansas. I just moved to town yesterday."
          Skeptical. I swear she sounded like Mom: "Uh-huh..."
          I walked right up to the edge of the stage. This gave her a
commanding view of me. "It's true. I can show you my driver's license. I've
traveled a lot so my accent has probably changed." I pick up languages
easily
so I suppose I could have practically any accent I choose, but it's easier
to
use what comes naturally.
          "Did you grow up on a farm?"
          "Yes, ma'am."
          "Uh-huh..." but somehow she didn't sound so skeptical this time.
"What are you doing here then, Mr. Kansas?"
          "I got a job with the Daily Planet. You've probably heard of that
newspaper."
          She snorted (like "Everyone's heard of it, kid!"), but then she
began
to look a little grandmotherly, and she nodded.
          I continued, showing her my stenopad and pen. "I'm covering the
razing of this building. It's my first assignment for the paper. As far as I
know, no one knows you're in here. The demolition has been delayed, but you
could be in danger when they get started again."
          She rolled her eyes then aimed them back at me sharply. "I don't
care." She waved at the world at large. "They don't understand. A theatre is
more than bricks and mortar, even if it is crumbling. It's drama and passion
and mystery and comedy and... and..." She looked up and into the darkness.
"Who's there? What is this? Metropolis Union Station?"
          It was Jimmy. I thought I'd heard him and wondered if he'd find
his
way in here. I said, "That's our photographer."
          He walked up. One hand was in his pocket and the other was
cradling
his Nikon. To her he said, "Hi." To me he said, "Nobody's supposed to be in
here, Clark."
          "We have time," I informed him. I looked up at the woman. "We do
have
time. At least an hour, I think."
          "Then I can finish the play," she said.
          "Oh, brother," Jimmy muttered as he looked away. "'To be or not to
be' - what kind of question is that?"
          I felt like ordering him to "sit!" but I didn't have authority to
do
that, either. "Could you take some pictures? Please?"
          The woman cleared her throat.
          As much I like The Cherry Orchard, reciting it here and now would
not
help her case. "Ma'am?"
          "What now?"
          "Since I just came to town--"
          "Fresh off the hay wagon," Jimmy inserted.
          I have no idea why he was trying to provoke me, but the woman did
frown at him as he walked away looking for angles. When she looked at me,
she
seemed more sympathetic and willing to listen, so I plunged ahead.
          I'll just review what happened. I told her that I didn't
understand
the issues behind what was going on outside and had very little idea of the
history of the building or the neighborhood. She told me she had lived here
for
53 years and had seen *every*thing. Within a few minutes she invited me up
on
the stage - "We can't talk with you standing up there straining your neck" -
and we sat on a big empty packing crate. Jimmy crept up on incredibly light
feet and squeezed off pictures of the distinguished retired actress; they
turned out to be quite complimentary. I'll have to see that she gets prints.
          Once she started talking, the only thing that stopped her was the
entry of agents for the demolition company and several police officers an
hour
later, making a last check of the building. Beatrice, Jimmy and I were
escorted
out. Not roughly like you see on TV (we didn't give them any reason to be
rough
with us), but we were watched so we wouldn't sneak back in. Beatrice's
friends
converged on her, she introduced Jimmy and me, and we got some more quotes
and
pictures, all with the sounds of destruction happening behind us. About an
hour
later, the police seemed to think our group was a threat to the demolition
contractor's activities (though by the end of the day they had not been
able to
tie the machinery breakdowns to the protesters), so we were sent on our way.
          We met up with Steve and began to compare notes.  We trollied back
toward Media Square and stopped outside The Planet at a hotdog stand for
lunch.
I suspect the meat in the wieners was not exactly top quality, but neither
of
my friends showed any signs of food poisoning in the ensuing hours. We took
"lunch" up to the conference room and mapped out a strategy. Steve would
continue his series with the reflections of the chief architect of the new
entertainment center, a corner of which will be built where the old theatre
had
stood. I would write up my interview with Beatrice as a sidebar, and Jimmy
would process his pictures to see if there were any we could use.
          After that, we split up again, but Jimmy accompanied me part way,
so
he saw my desk as soon as I did. It was as I had left it, complete with the
box
of supplies.
          Jimmy said, "Oh, gosh, I forgot. You need a computer."
          "I can write out my report or use my--"
          "No, you can't."
          "Then I can use the one on--"
          I was going to point out the desk in the middle of the Pit, but he
said sharply, "No!" He almost stepped back then. "I mean... no. Because you
need your *own* computer. And that one's all dusty. There's always a static
danger this time of year."
          In this humid city?
          He continued, "I can set up a computer for you in half an hour,
when
I can find half an hour, but until then let's put you..." He looked around
the
Pit. It was no less busy than it was the first time I saw it. I could almost
hear him thinking, thinking... he snapped his fingers. "Cat's office!"
          "Pardon?"
          "She's supposed to be at the Lexor this afternoon covering the
preparations for the White Orchid Ball, so you can borrow her computer. Come
on." He dashed away; I sprinted after him; people paused to watch us pass.
He
threw instructions over his shoulder. "You're not supposed to touch
anything in
her office, but it's okay to touch the computer."
          The office he led me to is identical in size to all the other
private
offices along office row (see the map I've made, dpmap.jpg). There the
resemblance ceases. On the walls are tacked tear sheets from the fashion and
entertainment sections from the Planet and other papers and magazines (The
London Times, Paris Match, The Tokyo Standard, and others). There is a large
bulletin board covered with letters from celebrities, managers of fashion
houses, and heads of governments. A more detailed look - I had a few seconds
free as Jimmy brought up the computer - told me the regular occupant of the
office was most likely a slender brunette named Catherine Grant. She is in
her
thirties with a killer smile. She is featured in a number of pictures
standing
along side pleased movie stars and beaming captains of industry.
          Jimmy cut into my investigation. "Okay, come here. Ever use Word?
Good. This is the template we usually use. This icon," he tapped the top
right-hand corner of the screen, "sends your work to the LAN. You'll want to
type 'Steve Hanley'," and he spelled it out for me, "in this box and your
story
will go to him, okay?"
          "Gotcha."
          "Okay. Sit."
          I smiled at the command, though not for the reasons he probably
thought, and sat down. Earlier I had wanted to tell *him* to sit... To
cover my
amusement, I thanked him.
          "No problemo. Type. Make me proud of you."
          "I will."
          "Remember, this is *not* the Ladies' Home Journal."
          So much for not bragging about that particular article. I guess I
should have expected there to be a grapevine at the Planet and that Jimmy
would
play some part in it.
          Before I could say "Right", he rushed away.

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          Day 2, Wednesday, May 4, PART (05/08)
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          RATING P/PG-13

          About ten minutes and several paragraphs into my report, Steve
found
me. He approved of my temporary surroundings and asked me for more details
on
something I had mentioned over lunch.
          Fifteen minutes and one good (I hoped) working draft later, I was
sitting back, contemplating the story. Being isolated as I was, I could
afford
to type almost as fast as I composed the story in my head. The computer is
faster than my laptop and has a stronger keyboard.
          As I rested and thought over the story, some part of my mind
wandered
and I listened to the noise from the Pit beyond the glass wall and open
door. I
heard Jimmy. He was talking to a woman but not on the phone this time. I was
mostly ignoring the conversation until I heard, "Who's the new tight end?"
and
I wondered what she meant.
          "How could you tell he has one? He's sitting down."
          My gosh, I thought, is she talking about me?
          "A girl knows these things." Her voice turned almost husky. "Those
wide shoulders have to mean..." Then, briskly, "Well, just trust me."
          "I'll do that."
          "What's he doing at my desk?
          (Oh, she *is* talking about me!)
          "Well--"
          "Is he a present? He cute."
          Me, cute? She should see me after I've mucked out the barn.
          Then again, I thought, I wouldn't be showing her anything like
that
until after we got to know each other.
          "Cute? Look, Cat, I'll do you a favor: he's from *Kansas.*"
          "So?"
          "Kansas, as is, well, you know, 'flat,' 'corn,' 'rednecks,'
'tornadoes'..."
          "I know it's not exotic, but... at least Kansas is different."
          "Just.... just don't get attached to him."
          "Oh? What Perry gives, Perry can take away?"
          "No, not Perry. Perry just hired him yesterday. I guess he can
write.
I'm warning you because he's also, ah..." Then Jimmy whispered, which I
didn't
expect so I almost missed him saying "Phase One."
          There was a long pause. I almost looked up. I wanted a clue about
why
the woman didn't respond immediately. I wanted to know what "Phase One" is.
I
wanted to know *something*, *anything*, so I wouldn't feel like I was low
man
on the totem pole even if I am. I wanted to know if this was some joke, if
they
were pulling my leg.
          But if I looked up, I'd give myself away, I just knew it. They
were
down on the floor of the Pit and a little to the north, so I would have had
to
look through a wall and part of the overlook floor. Anyone passing could
have
seen this and wondered about me. Actually, I think now that Ms. Grant had
been
intending to enter her office, saw me, and kept going. That's when she saw
my
shoulders, but I hadn't noticed her.
          So, instead of satisfying my curiosity, I sat up and began
scrolling
through my story, trying to concentrate on that.
          "All right," the woman sighed at last. "I'll play along, but I
swear--"
          "--'this is the last time,' I know."
          "I said that last time, didn't I? When will it *end*?"
          "Beats me. She really needs a good one for a change."
          "That's not all she needs. She's warping us all."
          "Well..." wistfully, "she hasn't warped *me* yet..."
          A shocked pause. "You're incorrigible...!"
          "Really? You think so? Is there hope for me?"
          I figured out a way to see them by taking advantage of a series of
reflections that bounced from one glass surface to another between them and
me.
Unfortunately, by the time I worked out precisely which way and how far to
turn
my head, Jimmy and Ms. Grant had moved. I came this close to saying a rude
word
in an exotic foreign language.
          The woman is taller than she appears in her pictures, and a lot
prettier, too. She just walked right in on long legs that explained why I
had
no need to adjust her chair to fit me better. She spotted me, acted
surprised,
and then smiled. "I *knew* there was a reason not to put a lock on my door."
She leaned on her desk and held out her hand. "Catherine Grant, 'Cat's
Corner.'
Please call me Cat. All my friends do."
          I found my feet and stood up. Generally this is an easy move,
something I've done since I was probably a year old. In the presence of this
statuesque, auburn-haired woman wearing fashion-plate clothing
(tight-fitting
plastic has to be next year's fashion), my legs were shaky. I have no idea
why.
I've seen beautiful women before; some of them have even noticed me.
          I took her hand carefully. "Clark. Kent. My friends call me Clark.
And I don't have a corner. Yet. My desk is in a corner, but I don't think
that's what you mean, or have."
          She let go of my hand but in a lingering manner. "No, it isn't."
          "You have an office." I felt myself take a step back. "And I bet
you
want to know why I'm in it, sitting at your desk and using your computer."
          She straightened, smiled and nodded. "There are only certain
people I
allow to keep it warm for me..." She looked friendly, as though trying to
assure me she had no intention of stomping on me like Mr. White had warned.
I
heard myself wondering if she bites... and mentally tried to find some cold
water to dash on myself.
          "Well, my corner, my desk, doesn't have a computer yet and I
needed
one to type up my first article for the paper."
          She appeared instantly, genuinely interested. "Oh, your first
article! Can I read it?"
          "After me," Steve claimed as he breezed in at what could either
have
been a very good or very bad moment. I haven't decided yet. He asked me,
"Have
you got anything?"
          Boy, did I... but that wasn't what he meant. "Yes. A first draft.
I
can print it out for you if...." I had a printer.
          Ms. Grant pointed at me, then past me, causing me to turn to my
right. "There's a printer behind you, Clark. Kent. I'll show you how it
works."
She sashayed (that's the only word that comes to mind) around the desk. Her
plastic skirt even made a sashaying sound. She said, "Sit." I sat. She
stood on
my right. She draped her left arm over my shoulders, took my hand, placed it
over the mouse, kept her hand on mine, and leaned forward.
          This was incredible. Her blouse was low cut. I don't know how it
covered everything - and there seemed to be a lot to cover, but I'm not sure
about that, my memory is overloaded, untrustworthy. Everything her blouse
covered stayed covered. If it hadn't I would have known immediately because
it
was all right there less then 12 inches away. She wore a light floral
perfume,
too, and hardly any makeup.
          Dad was right about Metropolis.
          I wished briefly that I had come to town sooner.
          "You want to mouse up here... and click on this icon that looks
like
a printer. Can you do that?" She looked down at me. "Can you... click?"
          I swear I could not remember the simple little word "Yes". All I
seemed to be able to say was "Ah..."
          "Cat's got his tongue," Jimmy observed from the doorway.
          "Have you got my pictures?" Steve asked, not amused.
          "Yep." Jimmy handed them over, not taking his eyes off us.
          Ms. Grant and I clicked.
          "Attaboy," she purred.
          The printer behind us hummed to life.
          I swear I was almost beginning to sweat, which I just about never
do.
          Maybe she sensed this. She straightened up, let me go, patted me
on
my shoulder, then turned to lean back against the desk. "That wasn't so
hard,
was it?"
          "No, ma'am." Though if she had stayed on me any longer, something
else might very well have gotten hard. I like to think of myself as being in
good control, but I don't think I've been so challenged.
          In a moment she retrieved the printout. Rather than handing it to
Steve, she gave it to me. "Read it to us."
          "Pardon?"
          "You know," she leaned forward dangerously, "just put your lips
together and... read."
          I leaned back, then thought of a way to rescue myself. "Do you
mind
if I stand up?" For some reason I still haven't figured out, the idea of
being
on my feet seemed comforting.
          She didn't mind. I stood. My legs felt shaky again but they held
me
up okay. I cleared my throat (something else I hardly ever have to do) and I
read my story aloud. When I finished, ("...She came to say goodbye, as we
all
must, to the past, and to a life and a place that soon would exist only in a
bittersweet memory") Jimmy had stopped snickering long before and he had a
smile on his face. "Smooooth!"
          Ms. Grant was blinking back a tear. She might have been teasing me
before - now that I can look back on that strange interlude, I'm beginning
to
suspect that was what she was doing - though I have no idea why, if she does
that to all the new "tight ends" - but now her reaction looked real, as did
her
warm smile. She's a journalist. Her opinion is valuable. "That was
wonderful,
Clark. You've touched me."
          For the second time in two days, I heard Mom's voice say, "Jump!"
though this time it took me a second or two to figure out why. Then I had
it: I
was on top for a moment, I had the floor, so I should take advantage of it.
That meant bouncing her comment back to her and showing her that I wasn't as
confused as I might have looked earlier.
          I smiled apologetically. "I hope I'm not in trouble. I was warned
not
to touch *any*thing in your office."
          She looked surprised.
          Yes!
          She said, "You were *what*?"
          Jimmy stepped back, which gave him dead away.
          She turned a narrow look at him. He said, "Heh..." She was clearly
not pleased, but she didn't quite frown at him either. That might have been
her
next expression had he not seemed to shrink a few inches he couldn't afford
in
preparation for being thundered upon.

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          Having struck that fear into him seemed to be enough though. She
released him from her gaze and looked back at me, all smiles. She stood up,
only an inch or two shorter than me. Her body was warm and almost too close.
          She said, "Well, of course, *I'm* allowed to touch anything at
all in
my office..."
          At that moment, my invulnerability to so many things - searing
heat,
rushing flood, flowing ice - and that's only in Kansas - threatened to
abandon
me.
          But I was rescued.
          Darn it.
          "If you like that sort of thing," Steve muttered. He reached
forward,
leaned across the desk, and snatched my story from my grip. He smiled at Ms.
Grant, peer to peer. "Which I do, and being the senior reporter here--"
          "And happily married," she reminded him.
          "Yes, well--"
          "Yes, indeed," dismissing him. Back to me. "Unless I'm
investigating
a crooked politician or an aristocrat with a sordid past, I never target
married men. Do you have a sordid past, Clark?"
          "Ah, no, ma'am." That's one thing I haven't tried to develop.
          "'Ma'am'?" She grinned. "You're so cute!"
          Huh? I prepared for her to move on me but she didn't even touch
me.
          She said, "Are you busy tonight?"
          No! "Ah..." Something told me that for my own sanity, I better
say,
"Yes."
          "You're turning me down?"
          Everyone looked surprised to varying degrees - but the least
surprised seemed to be Cat, who I think may have expected my answer. Maybe
she
even wanted that answer. I guess everyone says yes to her; maybe she thinks
it's nice when someone doesn't jump at the opportunity.
          In reality, I cannot afford to take this woman, this Catherine
Grant
out on any form of date until I rebuild my savings. Not, I suppose, that she
necessarily wanted to go out anywhere, but introducing her to this flophouse
(where I'm typing this now), or me seeing her place (she must have a
marvelous
apartment), it just isn't something I'm prepared to do either. "Yes, I think
so..."
          "That's a wise move," Steve said. "He may be busy with rewrite if
Perry doesn't like this." He held up my copy. "But I like it and that counts
for something. Too bad you weren't here a few weeks ago, Clark. This piece
might have swayed the judge when the protesters presented their first
arguments
in court."
          "Oh, I'm sorry."
          "You've come at the right time for bigger things, I'm sure," Cat
said, comforting. Letting up on me a bit, she didn't repeat her question
about
my free time since Steve had practically announced to the world that I
wouldn't
be here all night.
          He said next, "Let's go work on the layout."
          Referring to her desk but looking at me and no one else, Ms. Grant
said, "You can layout here if you want."
          It looks like she is far better than I am at seeing and seizing
opportunities.
          I shouldn't let you think - future generations out there wherever
and
whenever you are - that I wasn't terribly flattered by all her suggestions.
I've never been propositioned like that by someone I only just met. But
that's
probably why I was also quite frightened and didn't do what any normal guy
would do, like melt right at her feet and begin working his way back up
discovering her as he went (nota bene: I *do* have an imagination).
          I suppose one of my problems - if you want to call it a "problem"
-
is, of all the things I've done in the world, there are some I haven't had
the
chance to do - no, I've had the *chance,* the opportunity, I've just never
*taken* it. It's never seemed to be the right time or the right place, and
never the right woman. Here again, with Cat Grant, it's still not right.
Maybe,
after we've been friends for a while, I'll find out that she is the right
woman
(we may be halfway there since it looks like she already thinks I'm the
right
man), and together we'll find the right time and place.
          For now, this beautiful woman would just have to understand my
subtle
message to that effect. I tried to convey that message by stepping back and
easing around her, expressing my regrets facially in the most polite yet
debonair manner I could muster... and probably failing miserably. "No, thank
you. I don't think so, Ms.--"
          "Cat," she said sensuously... but she didn't move to stop me,
didn't
press.
          That was a relief. I found myself almost imitating her. "...Cat."
          She did look amused... but not so much at me, I think, as at the
whole awkward situation. "Later then."
          "Later..." Maybe that meant she could read my subtle message after
all. I told myself to try to be amused with all this, too, later. "...then."
          As soon as I was within range, behind Steve, Jimmy grabbed my arm
and
almost dragged me out. That made me feel foolish, but considering that my
legs
still weren't working quite right and that the inundated logic center of my
brain was suggesting that I float in compensation, "foolish" was probably
the
safest feeling to experience at that moment.
          Steve followed us but only after a delay caused by his pause to
whisper to Cat, "She'll eat him for breakfast."
          She didn't see me catch her subtle nod, her almost bleak
expression,
and her whisper in return of: "Brunch."
          Jimmy left me there on the deck to find my own way back to my desk
because he had more darkroom work to attend to. I was feeling contemplative
didn't have time to ponder the strange interlude that had turned out so well
for the draft of my story and so flustering for my fledgling social life. I
couldn't even begin to understand the bizarre opinions I was obviously not
supposed to have overheard.
          A crashing sound began up at the elevators. The doors opened as
they
must do hundreds of times a day. There was a struggle, and out of the center
elevator rushed (or he was pushed) a balding man. He was in his 40s and
dressed
in a tattered overcoat. The railing around the deck stopped him, just. He
hung
over it, breathing hard. He held up an medium-sized, oil-stained, brown
paper
bag, which he waved as he looked out over the Pit. His expression was
desperate. He gasped: "Lois Lane! Lois Lane!"
          A murmur went rapidly around the room and in a moment, someone
said,
"She's not here."
          Cat came out to stand beside me, a little ahead of me, not
touching
me, forgetting about me (I hoped, or maybe I didn't, I don't know), instead
drawn like everyone else was by the loud interruption.
          Someone else corrected the first person's information. "No, she
doesn't work here."
          From the other side of the Pit:  "No, she doesn't work here
anymore."
          A woman disagreed. "No, she quit."
          A man growled, "She was fired."
          Around the pit it went:
          "She *quit* because she was threatened."
          "She was *fired* because she did the threatening."
          "She was fired because she was threatening to ruin the paper."
          "--and now even the Star won't touch her!"
          "No one will touch her."
          "No one wants to touch her."
          "She doesn't want to be touched."
          "She never wanted to be touched."
          (Cat sighed and whispered, "Poor Lois.")
          "She was a menace to the paper."
          "She's a menace to the *city*.
          "She's a menace to *society*."
          "So she's gone *underground*."
          "She's a *criminal* in the underground."
          "She *runs* the underground!"
          Mr. White stepped out of his office, sized up the situation
quickly,
and held up his hand. The newsroom information sharing (I can't call it
speculation or gossip since I don't know anything about the original
situation)
came to an abrupt halt and everyone, even the visitor, turned to look at
him.
          He called out to the tattered man: "You won't find her here, sir.
We
don't have anything to do with that young woman anymore."
          The man fell back, his shoulders slumped and his mood defeated. He
sighed. "Wow, I've got to get out more..." He looked up, trying to regain a
toe
hold on the situation. "But I *have* to talk to her!" He held up his bag.
"It's
going to explode--"
          A man screamed: "It's a bomb!"
          Others agreed: "It's going to explode!"
          Everyone reacted, many of them by trying to get out of the area by
means other than the elevator (for example, the emergency exits on the south
end of the Pit). Others simply fell back, prepared to watch, fascinated, as
their world blew up.
          Standing in the back totally ignored, I had the luxury of a few
seconds to lower my glasses and check out the contents of the bag.
Fortunately,
the man had stopped waving it around and was now grasping it before his
chest,
protecting it from the bedlam he had inspired. The bag did not hold anything
resembling a bomb, which probably explained why he looked so confused.
          Fresh on the heels of this discovery, I could now hear people
coming
up the stairs that are just on the other side of the door to the Graphic
Arts
Department. The Security Department must have been alerted and they were
searching floor by floor. They'd be here soon since the Pit is on the third
floor.

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          I had to get to the tattered man first. I don't know why; there
were
probably others better qualified to help him - or subdue him. I just knew
that
I wanted to talk to him. Maybe it's because he looked so helpless: first he
couldn't find "Lois Lane" next everyone was shunning him due to an incorrect
perception; and no doubt he expected heavily armed people to descend upon
him
at any moment.
          I pushed passed my colleagues packed along the overlook and
dashed up
to the man just as the Security people burst out onto the deck.
          Mr. Mounts was in the lead. He pointed at the tattered man.
"That's
him! Get him!"
          His three companions didn't "get" instead they crouched and pulled
their guns.
          Mr. Mounts was surprised by this, but he recovered instantly and
shouted at me, "Get out of the way, Clark!"
          I did the exact opposite, putting myself between them and the
little
man. I said, "No, wait! Nothing's happened! There's been a big
misunderstanding! It's okay!"
          The guns didn't waiver but they didn't go off, either.
          This is good. I've never been shot at and I'm not sure if I can
survive that kind of thing. Sharp bullets are vastly different from the
blunt
impact of the horns on angry bulls and rhinos. (I'm just comparing,
great-grandchildren, I'm not saying I have a lot of experience with being
charged at by bulls and rhinos. Elephants, yes, once, but that was a ruse, a
warning to me to stay away from a newborn, and I respected that and flew.
They
let me approach later.)
          "There's been *no* misunderstanding! He slipped passed me while I
was
distracted by a pack of *Girl Scouts*," Mr. Mounts spat out, "*and* he's
carrying an unauthorized package!"
          Of course, Mr. Mounts had every right to be concerned, especially
with the Planet's recent history of receiving nuclear bomb threats. I said
to
him, "I'm sure this gentleman will be happy to show you the contents of the
package."
          An "Ohhh!" arose from the Pit below.
          I looked at the tattered man, "Won't you?"
          Given the chance to help ease tension, the tattered man hesitated,
gripping his package even more tightly.
          The security people raised their guns again.
          Mr. White strolled up and stopped at the tattered man's other
side (I
stood on the man's left). "Let me see what's in that package, sir."
          The man cringed away from Mr. White. "But..."
          "It's that or you'll have to leave the building, pronto."
          "Well... Lois Lane isn't here?"
          "That's right."
          "Really?"
          "It's been months now."
          "Oh... I should read your newspaper more often, but I can't
afford to
lately... I didn't mean to slip past him," the tattered man muttered. Then
he
looked at Mr. Mounts, pleading, "I mean, you were busy helping those
precious
children, and I didn't have time, and I *have* to get this story to Lois
Lane!"
          Mr. Mounts frowned. "Well, she's not here! She was banned for life
>from stepping one foot anywhere near this building!"
          Wow, I thought and immediately wondered what she did.
          But at the moment, none of that really mattered. We didn't need
whoever it was he had come to see. "That's all right," I said. "I'll be
talking
to him." To the man himself:  "I'll talk to you--"
          "Hold on a moment, son," Mr. White said, raising a hand, calming
the
storm, and reminding me of my place. He then turned the full force of his
persuasive voice on the tattered man. "I'm the city editor of this newspaper
and I'm the one who says what gets printed. Let me take a look at what's
inside
that bag."
          The tattered man handed the bag over meekly.
          Mr. White pulled out several thick file folders full of papers,
reminiscent of what I had found on my desk the day before. There was a
collective sigh of relief tinged with disappointment from my colleagues in
the
Pit below.
          The tattered man said, "Those are my credentials, my theories, my
research, my proof. Be careful..."
          Mr. White grunted as he looked through the first file, nodded, put
the files back into their bag and returned it to its owner. "Well, there's
no
danger here," he proclaimed. "Just a little everyday excitement. You can put
those away," he said, referring to the guns still held at the ready by the
security people.
          The security people relaxed, nodded, eased back and holstered
their
weapons.
          Mr. Mounts was still upset and still trying to gain some control
of
the situation. "Well, I'm glad nothing went off. Now we'll take him back
downstairs for questioning."
          Mr. White held up his hand again, approached Mr. Mounts, placed
his
hand on Mr. Mounts's shoulder, and began to turn the man toward the
elevators,
none of which had opened to discharge more people during this whole affair.
I
thought this was a miracle until I discovered that the elevators had been
shut
down in response to the emergency.
          "No," Mr. White told him gently, "this is the newsroom. *We* do
the
questioning here."
          Mr. Mounts's arguments were thus useless and he seemed to realize
it.
With praise for his work so far, Mr. White sent him and his colleagues on
their
way and in a moment turned toward me. "Take this man," our visitor "to the
conference room and get started. I'll join you there in a few minutes."
          I asked the tattered man to follow me. He did so. I assumed then
that
Mr. White didn't come with us because he had to order everyone to get back
to
work and make sure that the newsroom returned to its usual frenzied pace. I
think he also took the opportunity to check with Steve to see if I had given
any evidence today of actually being qualified to interview anybody. I
understand: before now Mr. White had only my writing samples and my
references
to go by. I assume Steve told him I did okay with Beatrice because I wasn't
yanked out of the conference room and told to report to the Maintenance
Department in the basement.
          The interview lasted almost half an hour. The tattered man is Dr.
Samuel Platt and he has degrees in both electrical engineering and nuclear
physics, two difficult fields requiring a sound mind and great dedication.
He
was employed at EPRAD, the space agency, for ten years, until recently,
when he
was fired, which I think is odd because the agency is so busy with a
history-making project. Or it's not so odd, if Dr. Platt's claims are
correct.
His career had been soaring, he told us, until he stumbled across
"unorthodox"
procedures used in the construction of the engines for the Messenger, a
shuttle
craft that will launch Friday morning, two days from now. It will be
carrying
spare parts and final supplies for Space Station Prometheus, which has been
in
construction for more than a year and is due to receive its first staff via
transport shuttle sometime next week.
          "You see," he told me as he became more comfortable talking to me,
"we - my team - well, not *my* team anymore, *they* weren't fired, they were
reassigned to the Mojave test site where it's warm in the winter but there
are
scorpions and sand storms - we discovered that under extreme temperature
conditions - and sometimes it gets cold at the launch pad, even this time of
year - and that equipment is *very* sensitive - the particle isolators are
in
danger of shutting down, which you never want happening during the launch
sequence, which is when the particle isolators are under a great deal of
pressure to perform in an optimum manner."
          "Particle isolators?" Mr. White asked.
          Dr. Platt looked up. Mr. White had joined us some five minutes
earlier and had been standing back, behind me, watching and listening. He
was
told, "It's a complex series of devices situated right before what you might
know as... as the spark plugs." He looked back at me, looking me right in
the
eye, straining to impress me with the seriousness of his discoveries. He was
doing a good job. "To prevent the breakdown, which could halt the entire
process - halt it quickly, very quickly - we ordered the installation of
heating devices. Logical, right?"
          "Yes, sir."
          "Yes! But when I broke into one of the off-limits labs, I
discovered
that the heating devices had been replaced by a coolant system!"
          Oh? "To cool the particle flow?" That would make the particles
sluggish in a system dependent upon perfect timing.
          He grabbed my upper arm and squeezed, or tried to. "Precisely!" He
frowned at his hand, let me go and opened and closed his hand briefly,
testing
it. "My, you're a solidly built fellow... Anyway, so now they'll fuse in
the..." he nodded at Mr. White, "spark plugs - and the Messenger will blow
up
unless they're replaced with what we ordered! It's all in my report! And
since
they've done that to the Messenger, just what do you think they've done to
the
passenger transport vehicle?"
          "I have no idea."
          "Neither do I! I was fired before I could find out who *they* even
are! That's where Lois..." He hesitated. "Well, where... you come in now."
          "You said there's a report, that you wrote a report?"
          "Yes! A very detailed report!"
          I looked at the papers he had scattered over the dark mahogany
table
in his zeal to explain the problem. "Ah..."
          "No, these are just my notes." He looked at them lovingly. "I
carry
them with me everywhere. They keep me warm..." He sighed then. "The report
I'm
referring to is the one I gave to Dr. Baines."
          "Dr. Baines?"
          "Dr. Toni Baines. She's beautiful. She's a physicist and she's the
Director of the Agency. I gave her a copy of my report. I thought *she'd*
understand but *nooooo*..."

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          "Wait just a minute here," Mr. White said. "You said you broke
into
an off-limits area of the lab at that Extraterrestrial...?"
          "Extra Planetary Research And Development Laboratories," I said.
It
was in the letterhead of some of the interoffice correspondence he had
photocopied. Although almost everyone has heard of the agency, few remember
what the acronym stands for.
          Dr. Platt nodded vigorously at my boss. "Yes, I did! I had to! To
confirm my suspicions! They were keeping me out of there and if *anyone* had
the right to enter that part of the lab, *I* did! It's part of a big
conspiracy, I tell you!"
          "Well," Mr. White drawled. It looked to me like *his* suspicions
had
been confirmed, too. "I think we have enough now to begin an
investigation." He
came around the table and helped Dr. Platt to his feet.
          Dr. Platt looked confused. "The story's much bigger than this!
*Lois
Lane* would understand! They've done this to the Messenger - what about the
passenger transport vehicle - the New Hope??"
          "That's a very good point. After Mr. Kent looks into what you've
given us, we'll know what questions to ask--"
          "But the Messenger goes up on Friday! It will *Blow Up On
Friday!*"
          "Well, sir, I'll talk to some very important people I know about
it
and I'm sure they'll stop the flight if they think it's necessary. Now, do
you
want to take your notes with you," he waved his hand over them, "or leave
them
here for Mr. Kent to look through?"
          Dr. Platt was torn. He looked at me. He depended on us; we were
his
last hope. He said that frequently throughout our interview (or rather, he
had
said, "Since I can't talk to Lois Lane, you're my last hope. Even the Star
won't listen to me...").
          "They'll be safe here with me," I assured him. I think that was a
good assumption. I know the contents of the file cabinets well enough by now
that I think I can "lose" important papers there easily. That would have to
be
the last place thieves would think to look.
          "All right," he mumbled. "My address is there..." he pointed a
shaky
finger at one of the file folders.
          I got the feeling that shakiness meant something more than that he
was nervous about what he believed will happen on Friday. I rose and told
Mr.
White, "I'll see him safely out, sir."
          He nodded. "Do that, then come back here to see me."
          On the way out I steered Dr. Platt into the cafeteria and bought
him
as much food as I could afford. I tried to choose healthy-looking fare. He
in
turn tried to refuse but didn't try very hard. The pleasant kitchen staff,
seeing what I was doing, wrapped up the food for us, and I think they gave
him
extra.
          I wish I could have seen Dr. Platt safely home but I might have
had
to stay with him, too, watching out for him for no other reason than he was
so
confused. During our interview he claimed that he was drugged without his
permission for some time but he's careful about what he eats now; that his
apartment was bugged but he found and got rid of all the sinister devices;
and
that people were intercepting and reading his mail, so he has stopped
writing
to anyone, even his family. They don't want to hear from anyway, he told me.
          I advised him to get some sleep; that was all I could do for now.
          I met with Mr. White back in the conference room. He was looking
through the notes, not appearing to understand what was in them. This did
not
help his mood. He was not pleased with what had occurred, the waste of a
precious hour of our time. We discussed the story, or lack thereof. Dr.
Platt
is not a reliable historian, obviously. Even I can see that, but I argued
that
I didn't think it would be a further waste of time - my time - to look into
his
story, just in case.
          Mr. White relented. He said that he would call a friend in
Washington, D.C., and ask off the record about threats to the Messenger. He
told me to meet with Eduardo Friez, the science editor. Mr. Friez is
coordinating coverage of the Prometheus Project. If he agreed with me, I
could
work on the Platt angle through the launch of the Messenger. After that, I
was
to return to working with Steve on the fine arts district series. "That
story
seems to fit your humanitarian point of view better."
          I accepted this, it was fair.
          Before he let me go, Mr. White added, "Oh, and about that theater
story of yours. I got a chance to look it over before I came in here. Did
Personnel give you a revised Daily Planet Style Manual?"
          Uh-oh. "No, sir."
          "Well, I'll have Jimmy dig one up for you."
          "Thank you, sir."
          He seemed then to notice the disappointed look on my face - not
*duck* disappointed, no, not by any means - and he probably heard the
subdued
tone I realize my voice had taken on. I was thinking that if I needed a
manual
of style, then my style wasn't acceptable.
          He waved his hand, a gentle move. "Your story was fine - it
stretched
a few rules, but sometimes that's good. It's looks like you have a knack for
talking to people and I can always use that. The manual will help you next
time, particularly if you have to write up anything to do with this Platt
story, which will require a more... thoughtful approach."
          Whew! "Thank you, sir. I'll read the manual carefully."
          Note that a lot of things Dr. Platt told us are potentially
libelous
or worse, and that's why his story will have to be written carefully if it's
written at all.
          "Right. Now clean this up and find Eduardo - oh, and one more
thing.
You're going to the White Orchid Ball Saturday night."
          Huh? Me go to a ball? I watched one once, from the sidelines, as
assistant wait staff to earn a little pocket money on one of my trips, and I
nearly got in trouble with the authorities for working without a permit
until
the visiting Nigerian princess saved me. "I am?"
          "I get a few dozen tickets every year and I have to use them. Wear
a
tux."
          "A tux?" on my salary - or lack thereof yet?
          My concern about this now must have been written all over my face,
too. He almost smiled. "The Planet will cover it. Use Max's down the street,
south of here. Tomorrow morning. Tell them I sent you."
          Whew again! "Yes, sir."
          "And get your hair cut. You have to start looking like a reporter
if
you're going to stay around here."
          Uh-oh again. Well, I have time before Saturday night. "Yes, sir."
A
worse "uh-oh" could be, "Sir, am I expected to take a..."
          "Date? No, but keep your options open. I may come up with
something
for you there, too."
          I have no idea what that meant. Cluelessness seems to be a chronic
state for me lately.
          Jimmy offered some relief. He was rushing somewhere to get
something
for Steve when he almost ran into me. "Hey, CK, you okay? Good. That was
some
save you did up there! There's a game tomorrow night, the Metros versus the
Tokyo Titans. You like sports - wanna go? I got a line on some good
tickets."
          This was relief indeed! Everyone's heard of the Metros! But I
hesitated. After all, his actions toward me lately had not been exactly
friendly. "Are you sure you want to ask *me*?"
          "Huh?" He blinked, then seemed to realize what I was asking. "Oh,
yeah, well, I guess I've been razzing you lately because of that totem pole
thing and me not being on the bottom for a while. I'm sorry. I'll pay for
the
tickets. How about it?"
          I agreed. He held out his hand and we shook. I said I'd buy the
popcorn. He said he'd see about getting a car so we wouldn't have to go on
his
motorcycle.
          I met with Eduardo. He complimented me on my audacity in ignoring
that Dr. Platt might have been armed but also warned me about trusting
everyone
I met here in Metropolis. I said I'd try, but to be honest - I didn't say
this
to him - the oddest people I've met so far have been in the newsroom.
          He looked over the contents of Dr. Platt's files briefly and
began to
nod. "Yes... Yes... *Very* interesting. He may well have something here." He
gave me back the files and instructed me to start with a search for more
information on Dr. Platt. If the man was more than a crackpot, we'd plot a
course for following up on his suspicions.
          I spent the rest of the afternoon doing two things. First, when I
returned to my desk, I found a monitor and a keyboard on it and a CPU down
under my desk. Amazing! Whoever my benefactor was, though, he or she did not
set it up, but I figured out how to do that and how to access the LAN and
all
the programs I think I'll be needing.
          After that, I began a search in-house and then out on the net for
Dr.
Platt and the department in EPRAD that he had worked for. I came up with
some
interesting information... in time to go home. I've decided that first thing
tomorrow I'll summarize what I've found and present it to Eduardo. Then I'll
ask his advice about talking to Dr. Platt again and about contacting some of
Dr. Platt's former team members. I'd like to talk to Dr. Baines, too, but I
have the feeling she's a busy woman.
          On the way "home," I stopped at a money machine for twenty
dollars.
Then, hoping to explore a little more of this colorful city before dusk
fell, I
took a slightly different route than the one I'd taken walking to work. This
was fortuitous because I came across a market. I bought some vegetables,
pasta,
mushrooms, a small bottle of olive oil, and a sprinkle of feta cheese. I was
planning this nice little meal as I opened my door and realized something
was
different, something was wrong.
          Unfortunately, the first thing one thinks of given my current
surroundings is a robbery. However, as I stood there in the doorway, from
which
I could see almost every part of the little apartment except the bathroom
(for
that I lowered my glasses), I could see that nothing was actually missing.
          Yet I am certain that someone was in here. When I checked in
yesterday, the landlady told me that she only cleans on Fridays and after
people check out, so that rules out her being in here. Unless she came in
due
to some emergency, like a plumbing problem, but there is no sign of that
having
happened, either.
          Why am I so certain someone was in here, you wonder? Because my
diskettes were moved. I put them in a pile on the little nightstand to the
right of the bed and they were moved. Slightly, yes, but moved nonetheless.
The
disks have some backup files, including my resume, but that can be of no
interest or use to anyone but me. Still, I don't want anyone looking at them
without my permission. Also, my suitcase and its contents are not as I left
them. Whoever was in here tried not to leave any trace, I can tell that, but
they have no idea who they're dealing with: someone who is very good at
detecting traces.
          I'm not usually a suspicious person, but after all that happened
to
me today, maybe I should be a little more cautious.
          As is my normal practice, I compressed last night's journal entry
before I attached it to my email note home this morning. I also left a
compressed copy on this laptop. I've now deleted it since Mom wrote back a
quick "Got it", which I received while I was still online this morning. I
wrote
that compression program quite a while ago (I needed something more flexible
than Pkzip was at the time), so no one but Mom, Dad and I know how to use
it.
Double clicking on the document won't open it; only a certain macro will.
          I don't think anyone can break my compression program, but before
I
compress this journal entry, I'll encrypt it using another program I wrote
that
Mom and Dad know how to use, too. I'll log on and upload this entry, and
then
maybe I'll find a place to hide this laptop. After that, I think I'll go for
a
walk. This place doesn't seem so very friendly anymore.

[to be continued]

[Your real author thanks my proofers and creative consultants Pat H., Jeanne
P., and Steve H.]
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On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:13:06 EDT No Name Available <Larus2407@AOL.COM>
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>
> Isn't that sort of like trying to sneak your own popcorn into a movie
theater?

But what would be the problem with that? It's nothing like bringing
your own food or drink into a restaurant.

Wendy
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On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 16:32:44 -0700 "Irene D." <sirenegold@YAHOO.COM>
wrote:

> Thank you so much for the positive feedback.

It's deserved! Your continuing saga is fascinating, and very well
written.
>
> And when are we going to be reading your next story? (hint, hint!)

Well, the PG version of 'Super Life' is being edited for the Archive
as we speak, and Big Boys Do Fly II is with the very kind person who
volunteered (with arm twisted behind her back ;) ) to beta-edit it.
But come on! I only had one out about two weeks ago!

Wendy
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I've just taken a look at Clark's CV (that's what we call them ;) )
on Debby's site and was reminded of somthing I've never understood:
the American university grading system. Here, we use percentages, and
those percentages translate into grades. Hence, first-class honours
is 70% and above, second-class first division is 60% - 69% and so on.
(I should say that, except in precision subjects like Mathematics,
percentage marks much above 70% are rare).

But what on earth is a grade point average, and what does a score of
3.9 mean? Is that good, bad or indifferent?

Wendy
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Wendy Richards wrote:
>
> I've just taken a look at Clark's CV (that's what we call them ;) )
> on Debby's site and was reminded of somthing I've never understood:
> the American university grading system. Here, we use percentages, and
> those percentages translate into grades. Hence, first-class honours
> is 70% and above, second-class first division is 60% - 69% and so on.
> (I should say that, except in precision subjects like Mathematics,
> percentage marks much above 70% are rare).
>
> But what on earth is a grade point average, and what does a score of
> 3.9 mean? Is that good, bad or indifferent?

Wendy:

A grade point average is simply put ... the average of all your
grades.<g>  The grading system for coursework ranges from F to A -- you
may recognize this -- with each letter translated into a number.
(Except for "E" strangely enough.)

A = 4.0 (The highest grade you can get for a term paper, an exam, a
course, whatever.)
A- = 3.7  (I think)
B+ = 3.3 (I think once again.  It's been a long time.)
B = 3.0
B- = 2.7
C+ = 2.3
C = 2.0
C- = 1.7
D+ = 1.3
D = 1.0
F = goose egg, zilch, nada

So, at the end of each college semester *and* at the end of your
academic career, your grade point for all your coursework is averaged
and that becomes your grade point average or cum (cumulative average).

3.9, therefore, is quite good.  Almost perfect.  Clark obviously
graduated summa cum laude and probably was a member of Phi Beta Kappa.
In comparison, I graduated with a 3.78 (I think).  Not real sure if my
memory serves me right here.  Might have been lower.  All I know was, I
graduated magna cum laude -- so it might have been 3.75.

Oh well.  Glad the days when that number meant something to me are over.

Sandy
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I'm sending this to the list because the e-mail address of the author is no
longer valid. I hope the author is a member, so that my feedback will reach
its intended reader.  For those of you who haven't read this story, give it
a try, it's really very good.
Thanks,
Ray
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Dear Kaz,
Just finished your story and I wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed it.
There were a lot of things in "Tempus Fugitive" that didn't make sense, and
I liked the way you turned things slightly so that they made more sense. The
idea of having both Tempus and Herb as part of the same group charged with
watching over history and having Tempus as a rogue member of this group
makes more sense, especially when you reconcile it with the way he acts in
other episodes.
The whole story was familiar and not, you kind of know what is going to
happen, but then there is just enough change that keeps you going. The whole
revelation and realization scenes were very interesting. Lois' reaction was
very in character for the way she was at that time. Her running away from
Clark was very much expected along with the feelings of betrayal, anger and
humiliation you portrayed. It's kind of funny, I read another story where
Lois found out who Clark really was very early in their relationship. This
knowledge seemed to change the way they acted toward each other and it
wasn't the same. Now much later her reaction is why didn't you tell me
sooner. It seems as if there was a very small window of opportunity for
Clark to tell her his secret and for things to develop normally. Once this
window passed, the inevitable result was the situation you and the show
portrayed. I think that window was soon after Lois' aborted wedding and
before "That Old Gang of Mine". It was during this time that she was
starting to realize her feelings for Clark but she did not have a lot of his
lies and excuses clouding the issue.
Your closing line (The End, for now), does that mean that you are planning
to continue along this story line? I hope so, I think you have an excellent
grasp of the characters and I think there is some much that can be done with
this start that you have. I'm sure that there are other readers like me who
would be looking forward to either the next continuation of this story or
new stories from you. I don't believe I've read any other stories from you
before, but I do know that I look forward to others now that I have.
Thanks very much for sharing this story.
Sincerely,
Ray Reynolds
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At 01:00 PM 6/3/99 +0100, Wendy Richards wrote:
>I've just taken a look at Clark's CV (that's what we call them ;) )

>But what on earth is a grade point average, and what does a score of
>3.9 mean? Is that good, bad or indifferent?

Wendy, the GPA is a numeric representation of the letter grades used
throughout the US:  A (superior, usually 90-100%) = 4.0, B (above average,
usually 80-89%) = 3.0, C (average or satisfactory, usually 70-79%) = 2.0, D
(unsatisfactory, usually 60-69%) = 1.0, and F (failing, usually below 60%) =
0.

Clark's 3.9 meant that he had almost straight A's throughout college, which
means that he probably graduated magna cum laude or suma cum laude (with
high honors or with highest honors, depending on the school).  The
percentiles for the grades are an approximation since some instructors grade
on a curve (i.e. students who fall within one standard deviation of the
class mean get a C, students who are between one and two standard deviations
get a D if they're below the mean and a B if they're above, and A's and F's
are limited to those outside two S.D.'s of the mean).  Other schools (and
instructors--at my college, each instructor determines what qualifies as an
A, B, C, D, or F in his or her own class) have different percentile values
for grades.  For example, in the calculus class my kids took in high school,
an A started at the 93rd percentile, and an F was below 70%.

Obviously, based on the scores you mentioned, percentile amounts are
assigned differently in the US and UK.

Sheila
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Thanks for that explanation, Sheila - it was very useful, and I'll
have to print it out and retain it for future reference.

> Obviously, based on the scores you mentioned, percentile amounts are
> assigned differently in the US and UK.

Very much so! One of our undergraduates who spent a semester in the
USA recently came back with a percentage score of 70% for one module,
which meant we felt obliged to give him a First; from what you say,
he should have been given a 2-2, which is second-class second
division. Our university administration does not exactly provide us
with helpful information to determine the equivalent grades!

Wendy

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At 04:11 PM 6/3/99 +0100, Wendy Richards wrote:
>Our university administration does not exactly provide us
>with helpful information to determine the equivalent grades!
>

I wonder if they know.  Until you mentioned that a "First" (which I always
pictured as the equivalent of an "A") was 70% or above, I had no idea that
grades were so different in the UK.  Someone who got a 70% for a class in
the US just barely squeaked by with passing.  In fact, at my college (and, I
assume, most others), anything less than a "C" (or 70%) can't even be used
toward graduation, and in graduate school, grades below "B" (80%) won't
count toward graduation.  As you may guess, this creates a lot of pressure
for "grade inflation," in which instructors assign higher grades than the
students really deserve, especially since colleges and universities are
simultaneously under a lot of pressure to show high graduation rates.

This makes me realize all over again how many tiny details of everyday life
we take for granted and, especially in our fanfic, never bother to explain
because it's "obvious."  Yvonne (I think it was) had made a comment about a
particular phrase in Pam's latest, and I find those kinds of comments
helpful.  Since the audience for our work isn't just American, it helps to
know what parts aren't clear to an international audience ("cot" comes to
mind since it means different things in the UK and US), particularly if one
or two added words can clarify the meaning.

Sheila
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:54:07 -0500 Sheila Harper
<sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US> wrote:

> I wonder if they know.  Until you mentioned that a "First" (which I always
> pictured as the equivalent of an "A") was 70% or above, I had no idea that
> grades were so different in the UK. [snip]

Yes, though it's clearly just a difference in labels. I know what a
First is in terms of quality, and reward it with an appropriate mark.
If I was told I could only use marks of 90% and above for first-class
work, then obviously I would be awarding a lot more marks of 90% and
above than I do now! <g>

>  Someone who got a 70% for a class in
> the US just barely squeaked by with passing.

Over here, that corresponds with a D or Third, 40% to 49%.
>
> This makes me realize all over again how many tiny details of everyday
life
> we take for granted and, especially in our fanfic, never bother to explain
> because it's "obvious."

Absolutely! I find it's true the other way around as well; despite my
preference for writing in UK English, I'm finding that my editors do
query words from time to time if they're not familiar with them.
Remember 'duvet'? <g>

Wendy

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Hey guys!

I'm looking for a FoLC in Detroit, who might be able to give me some info on
the penal system in that State. If anyone out there recognises this
description of themselves <g> could they mail me *privately* please? Thanks!

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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FYI,
Some companies will go to strange lengths to sell their services.
It is a hoot to read.
http://www.ihr.com/homeopat/superman.html
Mr. D8a AKA James Tull
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James,

You're right, it's absolutely hilarious! I could really picture this
being the subject of a totally tongue-in-cheek humorous fanfic
written by Zoomway or the RR group.

So there's the challenge, guys... ;)

Wendy

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On 3 June 99 at 11:54 am Sheila Harper wrote:

<<....at my college (and, I assume, most others), anything less than a "C"
(or 70%) can't even be used toward graduation, and in graduate school,
grades below "B" (80%) won't
count toward graduation.  >>

Actually,  at many universities a grade below a "C" such as a "C-",
"D+","D" or D-" (a D being equivalent to 60%) is used towards graduation
credit for an undergraduate degree, provided that the class is not in the
major.  Most colleges and universities require that a student obtain grades
of "C " or better in their major.  If you're a music major and earn a "D"
in biology, you still get credit for the course and the requirement it
fulfills.  However, if you're a biology major and you earn a "D" in
biology, well,..... maybe you should consider another major.  Of course, if
you're an athlete, you must maintain at least a "C" average in order to
compete.  Just imagine if you're a professor at a university where football
is king and you give the star tight end a "D" or a failing grade in your
course.  Talk about the pressure to give him a passing grade!

Sheila's correct about graduate school, though.  Anything below a "B" is
considered a failing grade.  All the classes a person takes in graduate
school are in the major field.  If you can't earn a "B"or better in your
major, then there's a problem.  Also, for many students, earning a "B" in a
graduate course can be a death sentence towards the completion of a Ph.D.
at that university.   I know one professor who demands that his students
earn only "A"s in their course work (an "A-" is barely acceptable) if they
are on the Ph.D. track.  If any student earns a "B", that student is no
longer on the Ph.D. track and is shifted down to the Masters degree track
with that professor.  In his opinion, only the best of the best earn
Ph.D.s, and earning a "B" is not good enough if one intends to pursue a
career in primary research.  If a graduate student earns a "C", many times
he/she is asked to leave the program.  Some departments/professors will
give a student a chance to retake the course, but it depends upon the
department, the circumstances surrounding the grade, and in many cases it
depends upon how well the professor likes the student.

I remember one student from Germany who pursued her graduate work in the
U.S. because at the age of 16 she had not passed the rigorous exam that
determined whether or not she would even be allowed to enter a German
university.  So, she applied for a student visa in order to earn her
advanced degree in the U.S..  She said she much preferred the U.S. to
Germany in that regard:   students could decide at a later age what career
path they wanted to pursue and they had more opportunities to enter
college.

Lisa M. Ramirez
Lramirez@odu.edu

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>from Yvonne Connell:
>3. Am I right in thinking there's some sort of law against drinking spirits
>like whisky in public, hence the phrase 'brown bagging it'?

Yes, in many places there are laws against public consumption of alcoholic
beverages; almost everywhere there are laws against public intoxication.

>from Rachel TenHaaf:
>I'd never heard of that term [brown bagging it] being used for liquor
before now :) It means
>bringing your lunch to work by us too. I've also never heard of a
>restaurant that didn't serve liquor, but let people bring it in.

same here (Arkansas)

>from Emily Crawford:
> Almost every city has an open container law which prohibits outdoor,
> on-the-street consumption of alcohol (although outdoors on private
property
> is acceptable, as with restaurant patios or backyard parties).

Bars with outdoor patios usually have nice looking fences.Greeks
(fraternities and sororities) are big at the school I go to.  Whenever a
fraternity has a big party, they build a big fence around their yard out of
scrap lumber so that they won't violate public intoxication laws.

It should be noted that since the end of prohibition in 1933, these are *not
federal laws*.  They vary from state to state; and in my state, from county
to county. (the county I live in is a wet county, so anyone with a licence
can sell liquor, and anyone 21 or over can buy it.  the next county over is
a dry county, so only private clubs can sell liquor, and only club members
can buy it.)  Since the state of New Troy exists only in the world of _Lois
& Clark_, you as the author have free rein to make whatever laws you want
there.

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Wendy wrote:

> the American university grading system. Here, we use percentages, and
> those percentages translate into grades. Hence, first-class honours
> is 70% and above, second-class first division is 60% - 69% and so on.
> (I should say that, except in precision subjects like Mathematics,
> percentage marks much above 70% are rare).

Wendy, I never realised until you wrote that, that the UK system of firsts;
II.1; II.2; III and so on was actually based on percentages.  I often
wondered what mystical methods were employed to come up with the grades I
got.  Now I know I got between 60% and 60%, which is quite satisfying,
actually...not that the II.1 wasn't, but being a numbers kind of gal, I
like the percentage better.  (by the way, the degree wasn't in maths, but
music!)

Then Lisa wrote:

> Actually,  at many universities a grade below a "C" such as a "C-",
> "D+","D" or D-" (a D being equivalent to 60%) is used towards graduation
> credit for an undergraduate degree, provided that the class is not in the
> major.  Most colleges and universities require that a student obtain
grades
> of "C " or better in their major.  If you're a music major and earn a "D"
> in biology, you still get credit for the course and the requirement it
> fulfills.  However, if you're a biology major and you earn a "D" in
> biology, well,..... maybe you should consider another major.

Does this mean you have to decide when you start university in the US what
you're going to major in?  I didn't have to make that decision until after
my second year (Scottish MA, Wendy <g>).

Then Sheila wrote:

>This makes me realize all over again how many tiny details of everyday
life
>we take for granted and, especially in our fanfic, never bother to explain
>because it's "obvious."  Yvonne (I think it was) had made a comment about
a
>particular phrase in Pam's latest, and I find those kinds of comments
>helpful.

Yes, it was me, Sheila, and I agree, it's a maze out there.  I wonder,
though, if professional writers consider their audience the same way we
strive to?  I've read books by American authors which have referred to
people or used words which leave me completely baffled, and I expect you've
found the same with British authors.  Movies/films can be equally
confusing, although I get the impression that screen writers make more of
an effort to write generic dialogue in order to ensure that the film sells
well - or am I doing screen writers a disservice by suggesting this?

Yvonne
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Thanks for everyone's help on this.

As I told someone else, I picked up the phrase 'brown-bagging' from an
episode of ER.  Dr Green is sitting on a bench talking to Dr Ross (I think
it was the episode before George Clooney leaves the show) and drinking
booze from a bottle wrapped up in a brown bag.  He makes some reference to
'brown-bagging it' just after taking a drink from his bottle, so I
naturally assumed he was referring to the booze.  Anyone from Chicago out
there who can tell us if they use the phrase any differently there? <g>

Yvonne
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In a message dated 6/3/99 8:31:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
smcdermin@EROLS.COM writes:

<< A = 4.0 (The highest grade you can get for a term paper, an exam, a
 course, whatever.)
 A- = 3.7  (I think)
 B+ = 3.3 (I think once again.  It's been a long time.) >>

But as almost everything in the US, GPA's and grade equivalencies vary from
university to university.  The college where I received my undergraduate
degree gave A  = 4.0
B+ = 3.5
B = 3.0
C+ = 2.5
C = 2.0
F= 0
There were no D's on the theory that if that was the best you could do, you
didn't deserve credit and needed to take the class over again.

The university where I did my graduate work gave the following grades to
graduate students:
DI  = distinction    (A+)
HP = High pass    ( A- to A )
P = pass              ( B )
NC = no credit

Undergraduates on the other hand got A, B, C etc.

Ann
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>> Does this mean you have to decide when you start
university in the US what you're going to major in?  I didn't have to
make that decision until after
my second year (Scottish MA, Wendy <g>).
Yvonne<<

Well, sort of.  It's good to know what you want, then you can get all
the required coures in.  But, you usually don't need to declare your
major until the second year.  Before then you're 'undecided', but most
people should know before they start.
~Jocelyn

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In a message dated 6/3/99 2:17:29 PM Central Daylight Time, Aerm1@AOL.COM
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<<
 The university where I did my graduate work gave the following grades to
 graduate students:
 DI  = distinction    (A+)
 HP = High pass    ( A- to A )
 P = pass              ( B )
 NC = no credit

 Undergraduates on the other hand got A, B, C etc. >>

Actor Paul Lynde (probably best known as Uncle Arthur on "Bewitched") cut
one
class so often he dreaded what his report card would say. When he received
his final grade, it was "V".  Lynde's mother wondered if that stood for
"valedictorian". Lynde knew that was impossible, so he asked his teacher
what
"V" meant. His teacher smiled and patted his shoulder and said, "It stands
for "visitor"." <g>  Sorry, I know that was kind of off topic, but some
teacher's can have a unique sense of humor ;)

Zoomway@aol.com (who had a teacher write on my report card "is off in her
own
private world too much" and "does not play well with others"...some things
never change ;)
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<<
 Zoomway@aol.com (who had a teacher write on my report card "is off in her
own
 private world too much" and "does not play well with others"...some things
 never change ;) >>

LOL.  I think I'm glad I grew up before teachers wrote so many comments on
report cards.  My son came home one day with a note from the teacher saying
he had detention for "annoying his classmates."  Jeffrey was livid.  I asked
him what he had done.  He said he had been telling jokes.  I asked didn't he
think he deserved the detention then, and he replied, " Yes.  But not for
annoying my classmates.  They thought I was funny!  I was annoying the
teacher!"

Ann
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In a message dated 6/3/99 7:30:39 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Zoomway@AOL.com
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<<
 Zoomway@aol.com (who had a teacher write on my report card "is off in her
own
 private world too much" and "does not play well with others"...some things
 never change ;) >>

No they dont. (BG)

Greetings from one who got the same kind of comments - I was just talking
with a friend about the fact that during the 40s and 50s when I was in
school, teachers were all into that penny psychology stuff and would shake
their heads if you got good grades, did your work, didn't make a fuss, etc.
They branded you 'introverted' truly a death noll in a society where
extroverts are prized.

LOL

Charlotte
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At 07:31 PM 03/06/99 +0100, you wrote:
>Thanks for everyone's help on this.
>
>As I told someone else, I picked up the phrase 'brown-bagging' from an
>episode of ER.  Dr Green is sitting on a bench talking to Dr Ross (I think
>it was the episode before George Clooney leaves the show) and drinking
>booze from a bottle wrapped up in a brown bag.  He makes some reference to
>'brown-bagging it' just after taking a drink from his bottle, so I
>naturally assumed he was referring to the booze.  Anyone from Chicago out
>there who can tell us if they use the phrase any differently there? <g>
>
>Yvonne
>(yconnell@ukf.net)

LOL!  I just watched this ep last night (it aired here in oz for the first
time) and I was about to write an email to the list about this reference.
Psychic? or just psychotic? <G>
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In a message dated 6/3/99 3:22:40 PM Central Daylight Time, Cdfisler@AOL.COM
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<< Greetings from one who got the same kind of comments - I was just talking
 with a friend about the fact that during the 40s and 50s when I was in
 school, teachers were all into that penny psychology stuff and would shake
 their heads if you got good grades, did your work, didn't make a fuss, etc.
 They branded you 'introverted' truly a death noll in a society where
 extroverts are prized. >>

Well, the 40s and 50s were before my time, but even in the 60s (when I was a
little kid) or the 70s (my brother) there were still teachers who sent
report
cards home with handwritten assessments. By the 80s/90s, however, when my
nephew was in school, report cards became mere slips of paper printed out by
computer and mailed to the parents. I think one reason old report cards had
comments on them is because there was a space on the back labeled, "teacher
comments" <g> I guess they felt obligated ;)

Zoomway@aol.com (also received the dreaded "does not apply herself" comment,
though that one was accurate too ;)
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>One of our undergraduates who spent a semester in the
>USA recently came back with a percentage score of 70% for one module,
>which meant we felt obliged to give him a First.

So what does that mean?  That he got 70% of the answers right and got an A
of First?  If that's true that is son not fair!

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I read it in a rolling stone, or vogue interview. It was an interview with
David Duchovney and Gillian Anderson and that's what they said
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-----Original Message-----
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>As I told someone else, I picked up the phrase 'brown-bagging' from an
>episode of ER.  Dr Green is sitting on a bench talking to Dr Ross (I think
>it was the episode before George Clooney leaves the show) and drinking
>booze from a bottle wrapped up in a brown bag.  He makes some reference to
>'brown-bagging it' just after taking a drink from his bottle, so I
>naturally assumed he was referring to the booze.

Well, I am not from Chicago and I don't think I've seen the episode, but
here's a guess at what he meant.  I think he was probably just being
sarcastic and "joking" that his bottle of booze was his lunch--hence the
"brown-bagging" comment.  Any other takers?  I hope this clears things up a
bit!

Ara
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>From: Wendy Richards <ida18@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK>
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>On Wed, 2 Jun 1999 21:13:06 EDT No Name Available <Larus2407@AOL.COM>
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> > Isn't that sort of like trying to sneak your own popcorn into a movie
>theater?
>
>But what would be the problem with that? It's nothing like bringing
>your own food or drink into a restaurant.
>
>Wendy
>----------------------
>Wendy Richards
>w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk

Oh, but there is a problem with that.  I've never tried to sneak in popcorn
before.  That would be difficult.  But candy is another story. Food prices
are always sky-high (or at least the midwest's version of sky-high) in
theaters.  If the a theater worker caught you bringing your own candy into a
movie, they'd ask you to leave it.  The best strategy is to hope someone has
a nice, large purse and hide it all.

Jessi
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Debby:

Kudos, my friend!  "My Journal" is turning into a very interesting work
of fanfic offering interesting new questions and gobs of ideas.

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Below be spoilers
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General Comments on Day 1 which I didn't have time to make previously --
no big deal (my comments; not your story):

"Your" Journal said:
>   I don't think anyone on the bus was hurt. I'm sure
>they were shaken up, but a lot of them were shaken before
>the bus stopped. Three people walking along the street
>actually tried to get on the bus after it stopped! One
>succeeded and as soon as she entered, she threw herself on
>the floor and began to act shaken up, too. I don't know why
>she did that or the outcome of her behavior. I'll have to
>find out.

Although not rampant, I'm sure. This is true.  I worked in a law firm
briefly when I was in Philly and, every once in a while, I'd hear of an
accident where bystanders would jump on the disabled bus and pretend
they were injured in order to sue the transportation authority.
Great.  Just another reason to raise the fares.

>Bombing isn't her Em-Oh anyway, though some people say..."

This is tongue-in-cheek, right?  Isn't it MO?<g>

>So that's another reason I *have* to make this job work. If he
>sees that I'm right, that *this* is the place for me, I know
>he'll support me 100 percent. I can still help out on the farm
>in my spare time, though since they've both been cutting back
>slowly as they get older, they're needing me less and less.

If they're cutting back on what they do on the farm, wouldn't they need
him more and more?

>He was born here in Metropolis and his parents are divorced.
>His mother is a hairdresser and his father is an secret agent
>who has bases of operation all over the world - I swear that's
>what he told me.

Ha! A very funny observation, especially coming from a super powered
alien.

*********
General Comments on Day 2:

Debby:  First off, I think the graphics are WONDERFUL.  I got a big kick
out of the newsroom floor plan (mystery desk -- ha!) and the newspaper
article!  How'd ya create that article?  By the way, *why* do Cat and
Eduardo rate their own offices?

Speaking of the mystery desk, I love the mystique of the absent Lois.
You're developing a big, delicious question mark in Clark's mind which,
I'm sure, will pay off.  However, considering Lois' professional
reputation (star reporter, etc.) which she had built up before Clark
came along, I do wonder why he might not have heard of her in some way.

>"You know," she leaned forward dangerously, "just put your lips together
>and ... read."

What is Bacall in "To Have and Have Not," Alex?<g>

>In reality, I cannot afford to take this woman, this Catherine Grant
>out on any form of date until I rebuild my savings. Not, I suppose, that
she
>necessarily wanted to go out anywhere, but introducing her to this
flophouse
>(where I'm typing this now), or me seeing her place (she must have a
marvelous
>apartment), it just isn't something I'm prepared to do either. "Yes, I
think
>so..."

You know, I would *love* to have Clark go out on a date with Cat a time
or two *before* Lois shows up.  THAT would be a very interesting
dynamic.

>"Dr. Toni Baines.  She's beautiful.  She's a physicist and she's the
>Director or the Agency."

Why would Platt mention that Baines' is beautiful?  Why would this even
occur to him in the midst of this?

>"...They've done this to the Messenger -- what about the
>passenger transport vehicle -- the New Hope??"

The "New Hope?"  Is that a bow to Star Wars Part IV or have I been
reading the "current movies" usenet group too much?

>He seemed then to notice the disappointed look on my face
> -- not duck disappointed, no, not by any means --

Not DUCK disappointed?  Is that a Debbyism? Or, an Albuquerque-ism?

>It's looks like you have a knack for talking to people....

Oops. Extraneous apostrophe here.

>Why am I so certain someone was in here, you wonder? Because my
>diskettes were moved. I put them in a pile on the little nightstand
>to the right of the bed and they were moved. Slightly, yes, but
>moved nonetheless. The disks have some backup files, including my
>resume, but that can be of no interest or use to anyone but me.
>Still, I don't want anyone looking at them without my permission.

It was Debby Stark!  She was correcting your typos, you lout!

>We trollied back toward Media Square....

Trollied?  Well, I guess if we can bus people, we can trolley them too.
I have never, however, been able to get used to "growing the economy."

Good work.  Fun.  Can't wait for the next bit.

Sandy
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>First, on Clark's resume, it says: "B.A., 1994, Journalism, Kansas State
>University." However, in part 6, Clark writes, "I returned with a urine
>sample which I'm confident shows nothing unusual because the ones I gave
for
>the football team at Midwest U were never questioned." You name two
different
>colleges, unless KSU is also called Midwest, or unless Clark started out at
>Midwest U and transferred to Kansas State, but in that case he'd probably
put
>both on his resume. I'm not sure if this is a deliberate inconsistency or
>not, but I thought I'd point it out anyway.

Nitpicking from the Smallville girl: <g>

The university used in the show was I believe, Midwest University. However,
if anyone (not just Debby) wants to use one of the real colleges here in
Kansas, for a well placed rival if nothing else, well...

There's two main universities in Kansas: University of Kansas (KU) in
Lawrence, and Kansas State University (K-State) in Manhattan. KU is right
between Kansas City and Topeka, the state capitol, and it's a fairly good
sized town. It's well known for its academics (the Journalism school is
great) and the fact that tornados always seem to miss the town due to the
lake just west of town. K-State is further out on the plains, and is
definitely an Aggie-school. I met a guy just the other day who was going to
K-State, majoring in (what else?) Land-Management. There's a fairly intense
rivalry between the Jayhawks (KU) and the Wildcats (K-St), and every other
license plate in Kansas has either a little purple wildcat sticker in the
middle or a little blue and red bird. There's also some rivalry with
Nebraska, but that's neither here nor there.

I'm of the opinion that Clark's a Jayhawk. If he wanted to major in
Journalism, there's no better place in Kansas (go In-State tuition!). The
newspaper (The University Daily Kansan) is excellent, and they've got a
deal going with the Lawrence paper to publish at their plant, so they have
a number of options open that other school papers may not have. Heck, their
school paper is much more polished and professional looking than the Tahoe
Gazette. Probably has a bigger circulation, too...

Anyway, that's another 2 cents on Kansas.
Misha
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I have a page up now where I'd like to put links to other fanfic pages. If
you have a page of Lois and Clark fanfic that you'd like added to the page,
let me know, and I'll put your link there. I already have a link to the
fanfic archived on the page. Anyway, contact me privately if you'd like a
link there. The URL is:

http://www.actwd.com/zoomway/fanfic_links.htm

Zoomway@aol.com
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Ara Swanson wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Yvonne Connell <yconnell@UKF.NET>
> >As I told someone else, I picked up the phrase 'brown-bagging' from an
> >episode of ER.  Dr Green is sitting on a bench talking to Dr Ross (I
think
> >it was the episode before George Clooney leaves the show) and drinking
> >booze from a bottle wrapped up in a brown bag.  He makes some reference
to
> >'brown-bagging it' just after taking a drink from his bottle, so I
> >naturally assumed he was referring to the booze.
>
> Well, I am not from Chicago and I don't think I've seen the episode, but
> here's a guess at what he meant.  I think he was probably just being
> sarcastic and "joking" that his bottle of booze was his lunch--hence the
> "brown-bagging" comment.  Any other takers?  I hope this clears things up
a
> bit!
>
> Ara

I'd say you're exactly right, Ara.  It was a play on the "brown bag
lunch" concept.  Are you a student at AU?

Sandy
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>I've just taken a look at Clark's CV (that's what we call them ;) )
>on Debby's site and was reminded of somthing I've never understood:
>the American university grading system. Here, we use percentages, and
>those percentages translate into grades. Hence, first-class honours
>is 70% and above, second-class first division is 60% - 69% and so on.
>(I should say that, except in precision subjects like Mathematics,
>percentage marks much above 70% are rare).
>
>But what on earth is a grade point average, and what does a score of
>3.9 mean? Is that good, bad or indifferent?

Really, really good. Or mostly good, at the least. On a good-bad scale,
it's good.

An A (usually 90-100%) is a 4, a B (80-89%) is a 3, a C (70-79%) is a 2,
and a D (60-69%) is a 1. A failing grade (an F) is anything below that. The
grades for all the classes taken are averaged, so a 3.9 is mostly As.

The interpretation of the grades is where it gets bizarre. At the college I
attended (known as the Princeton of the West ;), professors often
considered As to be above and beyond the call of duty, Bs to be exceptional
work, and C was a good grade. There was one prof who'd been teaching for
more than 20 years, and had yet to give out more than a dozen As. At many
graduate schools, on the other hand, I've noticed that the professors
consider an A to be exceptional, B to be a passing grade and C to be barely
scraping by. So it's all in how you look at it, really.

Oh, and a D means that you're not an abysmal failure, but you need to take
the class again. At my alma mater, we had no Ds. ("Do or do not. There is
no try.")

Misha
(who's been pondering academia for far too long)
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In a message dated 99-06-03 22:32:02 EDT, you write:

<< Oh, but there is a problem with that.  I've never tried to sneak in
popcorn
 before.  That would be difficult.  But candy is another story. Food prices
 are always sky-high (or at least the midwest's version of sky-high) in
 theaters.  If the a theater worker caught you bringing your own candy into
a
 movie, they'd ask you to leave it.  The best strategy is to hope someone
has
 a nice, large purse and hide it all.
  >>

Actually sneaking popcorn isn't too bad.. If you leave your purse behind and
carry a bag while your mom carries her purse and you walk in together! <G>
We used to do that all the time when i was little and when i got older.

Alexis ;-.)
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Is there anyone out there that can make me a tape of  LnC episode "It's A
Small World".  I am desperate to get
a copy.  Please email ASAP if you can help!!

Brenda
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 20:00:20 +0100 Yvonne Connell <yconnell@UKF.NET>
wrote:

> Wendy wrote:

>> the American university grading system. Here, we use percentages,
and those percentages translate into grades. Hence, first-class
honours is 70% and above, second-class first division is 60% - 69% and
so on. (I should say that, except in precision subjects like
Mathematics, percentage marks much above 70% are rare). <<

> Wendy, I never realised until you wrote that, that the UK system of
firsts; II.1; II.2; III and so on was actually based on percentages. I
often wondered what mystical methods were employed to come up with the
grades I got. Now I know I got between 60% and 70%, which is quite
satisfying, actually... not that the II.1 wasn't, but being a numbers
kind of gal, I like the percentage better. (by the way, the degree
wasn't in maths, but music!) <

Just to clarify this, the mystical percentage is a weighted mean of the
student's results. Most of the value comes from final year subjects (at
least, where I work, it does), but some comes from earlier years. So
the "aggregate" by which honours levels are awarded is supposed to give
a feel for the overall standard of the student, with emphasis on the
level of knowledge/skill reached at the end of the course.

Sheila mentioned grade inflation, and Christina waxed indignant about
someone getting 70% being thought to rate an A or First, so it's worth
making the point that while it may look as though students on this side
of the Pond have an easier time, 'tain't so.

As Wendy indicated, over here, a lot of marking of what she might term
"non-precision" subjects (i.e., subjects in which there isn't a single
right answer to a question, as in maths, engineering, the
mathematically-based sciences, etc.) is done in terms of quality: is
this paper up to the standard of a first-class student? If so, it gets
70% or thereabouts.

This leads to what I think is a rather nasty form of grade _de_flation,
in which even the best students have trouble getting much more than 70%
because that's thought to correspond to first-class standard (kinda
makes it hard to get a 70+ average, wouldn't you say?). Students have
told me of lecturers who have said that if they submit a perfect
assignment, with everything answered absolutely correctly, they'll get
70%; if they want more, they have to do something extra. Just what, I
gather, is not specified.

This, to me, is grossly unfair. I certainly don't do this, but I have
had one or two clashes with people who think that marks greater than
70% must mean that the work is too easy. Well, after I finished
hrinding them into the dirt... <g> Not really, but I found this rather
amusing when someone came up with it in respect of one particular
assignment that I use as a teaching tool; it's got all the bells and
whistles that I could think to throw in -- I don't know _how_ to make
that one more difficult, and yet this year's class of 40 scored an
average of 92.6%, and the median was 98! This is not atypical, either,
which is why I keep using the test in question.

So this business of relative grades is even more complex than it
appears, and academics are, as usual, caught in the middle between the
need to give students due credit (or not, in the case of the dumb jock)
and the demands of self-appointed critics that standards be maintained.

Hey-ho.... Back to marking... B-(

Phil
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In a message dated 06/03/1999 11:11:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
mhall@SOUND.NET writes:

<< An A (usually 90-100%) is a 4, a B (80-89%) is a 3, a C (70-79%) is a 2,
 and a D (60-69%) is a 1. A failing grade (an F) is anything below that. The
 grades for all the classes taken are averaged, so a 3.9 is mostly As. >>

Except for when I was at a part of Rutgers University in the early '70s. I
don't know if they've changed it since, but my transcript would show a
rather
low number and I'd always have to explain that at Rutgers, an A was 1, B was
2, C was 3... they managed to do it backwards from everyone else.

--Laurie (the Ord one)
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>Sheila mentioned grade inflation, and Christina waxed indignant about
>someone getting 70% being thought to rate an A or First, so it's worth
>making the point that while it may look as though students on this side
>of the Pond have an easier time, 'tain't so.

Oh yes... and that's another thing... Actually a high school thing, so
pardon me if I get the details a bit muzzy. In my first high school, there
were certain classes - AP classes(Advanced Placement- basically college
subjects), where you learned advanced material, and then at the end of the
year, took a test to gain college credit for those classes, or just to pass
out of an intro class. In California, the AP classes were graded
differently, an A was a 5, a B a 4, and a C - 3. So it was not uncommon for
a student to have a gpa higher than 4. (I had a 4.1 when I moved to Nevada
my senior year of high school - it took a nosedive the minute I stepped
over the state line, because NV didn't recognize the inflated grades.)

Misha
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In a message dated 6/3/99 3:07:01 PM CST, Zoomway@AOL.COM writes:

<<
 << Greetings from one who got the same kind of comments - I was just
talking
  with a friend about the fact that during the 40s and 50s when I was in
  school, teachers were all into that penny psychology stuff >>

In the late sixties, my parents were told at a parent/teacher conference
that
my second grade brother was "seriously disturbed" and needed to see a
psychologist immediately.  My folks were, of course, very upset.  A couple
of
days later, my mother talked to the principal who told her that this
particular teacher (who was a little bit older) had only had daughters and
'didn't understand little boys'.  She'd told the parents of almost every boy
in her class the same thing!  And still, she taught!

Piper
Still outraged on behalf of my brilliant, funny, brother
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It's great to have something by Debby to read once more and I eagerly await
the next installment.  "My Journal" flows so smoothly with such good use of
detail that I find myself quite caught up in it and it's a bit of a shock to
come to the  "to be continued" sign.  More soon, please ?

Just to be safe -- spoilers ahead
*
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*
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Day 1 was pleasant: an enjoyable tour through the Planet, (great description
of the newsroom) and  also through the mind of Clark Kent  (who sounded a
bit
like Benton Frasier a couple of times) .   Clark addressing his great
grandchildren is touching and Jimmy has "dark reddish hair" --yeah!  Plus a
suggestion of suspense about Perry's motive in hiring Clark.

Day 2 --Enjoyed the way  lines from the show were worked into the dialogue
between Cat & Clark.   re the Clark / Cat relatioship:  Sandy wrote:  <<You
know, I would *love* to have Clark go out on a date with Cat a time or two
*before* Lois shows up.  THAT would be a very interesting dynamic. >>  Well,
maybe -- but the idea of Clark in bed with Cat kinda kills the magic of the
Lois  & Clark  relationship.    I know, I know --- he hasn't even met Lois
yet.

WONDERFUL build up of suspense about Lois Lane -- at this point, I seem to
remember that Debby wrote that she was working on something darker than
Dawning in a post to the list.  This comment now has added to the suspense
about Lois and the story will not leave my mind.

It's interesting to read a story written from Clark's POV.   First person is
very difficult to write, I think, and still keep the reader involved,
particularly when the reader already has a strong idea of what the character
is.  So far, it's working well.

Can't wait for day 3,
Carol
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At 10:40 PM 06/03/1999 -0400, Sandy McD wrote:
>Debby:
>
>Kudos, my friend!  "My Journal" is turning into a very interesting work
>of fanfic offering interesting new questions and gobs of ideas.

         Thanks! :D  More to come, lots more... (which will explain why it's
taken so long...)
>
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>Below be spoilers <-recycled electrons here
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>General Comments on Day 1 which I didn't have time to make previously --
>no big deal (my comments; not your story):
>
>"Your" Journal said:

[snip re strange reactions to bus accident in MJ1].

>Although not rampant, I'm sure. This is true.  I worked in a law firm
>briefly when I was in Philly and, every once in a while, I'd hear of an
>accident where bystanders would jump on the disabled bus and pretend
>they were injured in order to sue the transportation authority.
>Great.  Just another reason to raise the fares.

I read about that kind of thing, too, a while back. It's amazing what
sticks in
ones mind and pops up to be used later :)
>
>>Bombing isn't her Em-Oh anyway, though some people say..."
>
>This is tongue-in-cheek, right?  Isn't it MO?<g>

Yes, but I didn't want the reader to read "moe", which might cause an eye
stumble, though I could have used modus operandi (which readers might not
know), or the less colorful but easier understood "the way she works", but
the
character was trying to sound official.

>>So that's another reason I *have* to make this job work. If he
>>sees that I'm right, that *this* is the place for me, I know
>>he'll support me 100 percent. I can still help out on the farm
>>in my spare time, though since they've both been cutting back
>>slowly as they get older, they're needing me less and less.
>
>If they're cutting back on what they do on the farm, wouldn't they need
>him more and more?

Not if they're cutting back what the farm does, too. They might be selling
some
of their land (to an environmentally conscious entity), some of the
equipment,
some of the animals. The elder Kents would still want to farm but not be
under
the same pressures they could handle when they were younger. Also, maybe
they
can get government payments for not farming, just like the big welfare queen
corporations :)

>>He was born here in Metropolis and his parents are divorced.
>>His mother is a hairdresser and his father is an secret agent
>>who has bases of operation all over the world - I swear that's
>>what he told me.
>
>Ha! A very funny observation, especially coming from a super powered
>alien.

I like a CK who thinks humans are fascinating :) He might think the same
way if
he were human, too, though I think he'd be more distracted by his own
problems,
failings and frailties. But since CK is incredibly healthy and has the
ability
to observe more sharply and to travel more widely to observe more people...
and
throw in that he's hoping against hope to find more people like himself
(this
is not something he'll easily admit even to himself)... well, if he has to
be
an outsider because of what he is, at least he can have fun watching normal
people and trying his darndest to feel a part of the whole. I found that
idea
to be only very lightly touched on in the show. I guess it's not an idea
they
thought kids would want to explore. I'm glad we can explore it.

>
>*********
>General Comments on Day 2:
>
>Debby:  First off, I think the graphics are WONDERFUL.  I got a big kick
>out of the newsroom floor plan

It's not quite like the newsroom shown on the show, but having visited the
set... well, it's a mess ;) Also, of course, it's nowhere big enough for a
real
world-class newspaper. I went with the scenes of the newsroom shown in the
Superman movies and in "All The President's Men"

>(mystery desk -- ha!) and the newspaper
>article!  How'd ya create that article?

I have a font called Memorium(?) at work. It looks like a newspaper font to
me.
Compose the article, print it out on a buff-colored paper, tear it
carefully,
scan it :) If I had tons of time and extra creativity, I'd do it for other
articles that will be mentioned, but they're really all to long.

>By the way, *why* do Cat and Eduardo rate their own offices?

Cat brings in a lot of readers and the Science topics Eduardo covers are
wide
ranging. An argument could be made that others should have their own
offices.
Maybe they could be on other floors...

>Speaking of the mystery desk, I love the mystique of the absent Lois.
>You're developing a big, delicious question mark in Clark's mind which,
>I'm sure, will pay off.  However, considering Lois' professional
>reputation (star reporter, etc.) which she had built up before Clark
>came along, I do wonder why he might not have heard of her in some way.

You'll see... ;)

>>"You know," she leaned forward dangerously, "just put your lips together
>>and ... read."
>
>What is Bacall in "To Have and Have Not," Alex?<g>

hee-hee-hee! :D  Do you ever have little lines pop up when you're writing a
scene you've already sort of blocked out? I like when that happens :)

>>In reality, I cannot afford to take this woman, this Catherine Grant
>>out on any form of date until I rebuild my savings. Not, I suppose, that
she
>>necessarily wanted to go out anywhere, but introducing her to this
flophouse
>>(where I'm typing this now), or me seeing her place (she must have a
marvelous
>>apartment), it just isn't something I'm prepared to do either. "Yes, I
think
>>so..."
>
>You know, I would *love* to have Clark go out on a date with Cat a time
>or two *before* Lois shows up.  THAT would be a very interesting
>dynamic.

Well, ya never know. I don't want Cat to come off as man hungry but as a
professional journalist with a sense of taste.

>>"Dr. Toni Baines.  She's beautiful.  She's a physicist and she's the
>>Director or the Agency."
>
>Why would Platt mention that Baines' is beautiful?  Why would this even
>occur to him in the midst of this?

Maybe he had a crush on her from a far... oh, did I type "or" instead of
"of"?
/me checks... no, phew :)  I did eariler corrected a few typos discovered by
a
discerning rader and uploaded a better version.

>>"...They've done this to the Messenger -- what about the
>>passenger transport vehicle -- the New Hope??"
>
>The "New Hope?"  Is that a bow to Star Wars Part IV or have I been
>reading the "current movies" usenet group too much?

I just decided that the "passenger transport vehicle" needed a name--it is
an
important part of the space program. Did I inadvertently steal a name? I
didn't
see SW-IV...

>>He seemed then to notice the disappointed look on my face
>> -- not duck disappointed, no, not by any means --
>
>Not DUCK disappointed?  Is that a Debbyism? Or, an Albuquerque-ism?

That's a reference to MJ1, where CK explains about his duck not winning the
race. Deming, in the southwestern part of New Mexico (about a 6-hour drive
from
Albuquerque), does have a duck race every year, an event that is growing in
popularity :)

>>It's looks like you have a knack for talking to people....
>
>Oops. Extraneous apostrophe here.

Thanks. I've now corrected it in my original and I'll upload that to my site
probably this (6/4) p.m. :)

>>Why am I so certain someone was in here, you wonder? Because my
>>diskettes were moved. I put them in a pile on the little nightstand
>>to the right of the bed and they were moved. Slightly, yes, but
>>moved nonetheless. The disks have some backup files, including my
>>resume, but that can be of no interest or use to anyone but me.
>>Still, I don't want anyone looking at them without my permission.
>
>It was Debby Stark!  She was correcting your typos, you lout!

Uh-uh - were it me, I woulda stayed! :D

>>We trollied back toward Media Square....
>
>Trollied?  Well, I guess if we can bus people, we can trolley them too.
>I have never, however, been able to get used to "growing the economy."

You'd probably dislike our trolleys. They're actually half-size buses with a
trolley-like shell, very uncomfortable seats and poor scheduling :\

>Good work.  Fun.  Can't wait for the next bit.

Sunday :)  And thank you for your comments! :D

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark Stories MyJournal ...
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At 09:45 PM 06/03/1999 -0500, Misha wrote:
[snip]
>Nitpicking from the Smallville girl: <g>

[snip]

Thank you for the information on Kansas: University of Kansas (KU) in
>Lawrence, and Kansas State University (K-State) in Manhattan, their
locations,
KU's Journalism school, the fairly intense rivalry between the Jayhawks (KU)
and the Wildcats (K-St), Jayhawks, The University Daily Kansan, and even
tornados!

This is the kind of information writers love to incorporate :D  I also enjoy
reading tidbits about bit-city life (since Tulsa is the biggest city I've
lived
in though I've visited much bigger cities)

So all you readers out there, feel free to chip in with helpful hints! :)

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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At 11:05 PM 06/03/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>Is there anyone out there that can make me a tape of  LnC episode "It's A
Small World".  I am desperate to get
>a copy.  Please email ASAP if you can help!!
>
>Brenda

Whereabouts do you live? You might find another fan "right outside that
window"

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
in Albuquerque...
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Hiya FoLCs ;)

Now, before you read any farther, I should say that this post may not be of
interest to this entire list.  If it is not of interest to you, please read
no farther.  This concerns new legislation in Australia regarding R rated
Internet content (ratings as may be determined by a TV or film broadcast
type of regulating body).

The article I'm about to post puts forth the issue as it was introduced by
a university professor in Australia, on an "erotic" stories newsgroup for
Star Trek fans, which is very similar to what we call L&C "Nfic" here.
Since this may be of interest to many adult authors and readers on this
list and since the article itself is fairly a harmless rant, I've decided
to pass it on here so that it may be read. (re: copyright, no I didn't have
the authors permission, so I omitted his email address and fully expect to
be hung at high noon<bg>)

I warn, he has a very biased POV in that he's angry about the legislature,
which, as I understand it, now makes it 'illegal' for Aussies to have
access to anything rated over PG-13 on the world wide web, whether they
appreciate that or not.  You'll need to take his commentary regarding
certain senators and their political agendas with a grain of salt.  He's
obviously not happy about this.

But in the end, it's the gist of the article I wanted to repost here.
This legislation will definitely be protective in terms of kids accessing
questionable content on the net, but it will also (seemingly) make it
illegal for adult authors and readers to have access to anything like
"Nfic", for example, rated over PG-13 for romantic or sensual content.

Read on and please see the site below for more information:

http://www.efa.org.au/

Demi
nightangel@home.com

       Date:
            26 May 1999 04:48:11 GMT
       From:
            ***@*************
Organization:
            The University of Sydney, Australia

http://www.smh.com.au/breaking/19990525/A34067-1999May24.shtml

Today, the Australian senate passed a piece of legislation that makes the
regimes of China and Indonesia look tolerant. Called the "Online Services
Bill", it will require Australian *ISPs* to compulsorily errect firewalls
and filter-software screens between the country and the rest of the world
to prevent Australians accessing "Adult and otherwise inappropriate"
material from overseas, while at the same time ensurimng that Australian
ISPs do not host such things themselves unless they have been rated by the
Office of Film and Literature Classification, in which case they will be
compulsorily required to operate with Adult verification software (so
users of such services can be tracked). We will also be limited to one (1)
government sanctioned search engine.

During the debates over the Online Services Bill (the Net censorship
legislation currently before the senate), Bob Brown - a Green senator and
the only openly gay member of Australia's parliament - raised concerns
about some of the things that might be blocked by filtering software.

Senator Alston - our communications minister and member of our sadly
conservative and right-wing government - responded with the statement that
lesbian relationships weren't normal.

When Alston demonstrated the software he wishes to use to enforce this
draconian legislation, it refused to let him access the governments own
page on youth sexuality, upon which a lot of money had been spent in order
to reach out to the youth of Australia in an attempt to lower our
increasingly high youth suicide rate.

Senator Brian Harradine currently controls the balance of power in
australia's senate because of the absolutely fucked way our government
works, where the Senate remains as it is until almost half a year after
the federal election that changed its makeup so that the balance of power
had been shifted to favour a more leftwing party. As a result of
Harradine's pivotal vote and his ultra-conservative agenda, the Federal
government are constantly attempting to bribe him with repressive
legislation that will further his agendc so that he will support them in
passing a GST (which h didn't) and the continued privatisation of our
national telecommunications carrier (which he hasn't yet).

We have a second independent senator called Colston, possibly one of the
most corrupt in the current crop of politicians (though he oddly enough
did veto anti student union legislation. The man is just perverse). He
also voted to pass the legislation, a voter the government accepted
despite an earlier pledge not to because of his known corruption.

This legislation , thought (sic) up by Brian Harradine and Richard
Alston, has been described by our favourite little Tasmanian, Brian
Harradine, as "something which all australians want". Yeah, i want my
freedom of speech stopped too.

This single search engine that the new legislation will force us
to use has no database on information online about such things as rape,
lesbians and other such matters. This means that nobody can access rape
crisis information, information of gay rights, etc. This is an outrage....
Not only that, but ISPs are "responsible". This means that several smaller
ISPs with small budgets and limited resources may close down simply due to
the fact that they have to filter net content.

I suggest you visit www.efa.org.au , the Electonic Frontiers Association
of Australia, that has the full low-down on this nasty, nasty piece of
legislation. There's a rally on, too, on Friday, see the EFA site for
more info.

If you want to contact the architects of such a vile scheme:
 mailto:senator.harradine@aph.gov.au
 mailto:richard.alston@dcita.gov.au

Worse is that not only is the Web and Usenet stiched up by this bull,
but from Alston's comments in the senate last night, mailing lists ARE
covered by the Bill.  So if someone complains about content on a mailing
list being R- or X-rated, then ISPs will either be forced to shut-down
the list (if in Australia) or block access to it (if overseas).  So be
careful, and don't write anything that would be R-rated using the Film
classification guidelines.

However, as it takes someone to actually report mailing lists for their
content, ASCEM(L) is still a viable, indeed, the only, means by which
Australians such as nyself and Robin will be able to participate in groups
such as this.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 10:10:28 EDT
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Debby, I'm hooked already.  Keep it coming.

Charlotte
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:11:56 -0700
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-----Original Message-----
From: Charlotte Fisler <Cdfisler@AOL.COM>
>Debby, I'm hooked already.  Keep it coming.

DIDO!!!

Ara
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:18:56 -0700
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From:         "Reynolds, Raymond H." <REYNORA@MAIL.NORTHGRUM.COM>
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Does anyone have a recent e-mail address for Peace? I came across one of her
non-Lois and Clark stories and I wanted to send feedback but the address in
the story is bad and I don't have another that I know of. Any help would be
appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray Reynolds
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:26:30 EDT
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In a message dated 6/3/99 9:06:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
d.arendt@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

<< Is there anyone out there that can make me a tape of  LnC episode "It's A
Small World".  I am desperate to get
 a copy.  Please email ASAP if you can help!!
  >>

I can :)
Kate
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 12:29:39 EDT
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Ooops, sorry about that, I always forget which list I can just hit reply.
Kate
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:39:47 -0400
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From:         Phillip Atcliffe <Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK>
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 08:22:52 EDT PJ Piasecki <PJPiasecki@AOL.COM> wrote:
> In a message dated 6/3/99 3:07:01 PM CST, Zoomway@AOL.COM writes:

<< Greetings from one who got the same kind of comments - I was just
talking with a friend about the fact that during the 40s and 50s when I
was in school, teachers were all into that penny psychology stuff >>

> In the late sixties, my parents were told at a parent/teacher
conference that my second grade brother was "seriously disturbed" and
needed to see a psychologist immediately. My folks were, of course,
very upset. A couple of days later, my mother talked to the principal
who told her that this particular teacher (who was a little bit older)
had only had daughters and 'didn't understand little boys.' She'd told
the parents of almost every boy in her class the same thing! And still,
she taught! <

This sounds all too familiar.... My wife and I had something like this
happen to us in respect of our elder son; we moved around a bit while
he was in primary school, and the school that he ended up in when we
arrived here in Bristol tried to tell us that he wasn't bright, he had
Asperger's (sp?) Syndrome! Fortunately, Jocelyn is a Special Education
teacher and has forgotten more about that kind of condition than the
school ever knew. Funny how we heard no more of that nonsense once they
knew what she did for a living... and they haven't tried to do it again
with our other boy.

That kind of attitude is the reason we have taken both our sons out of
the public education system. There are good state schools within a few
miles of where we live, but the council bureaucrats won't let us send
our kids there. No, we have to go to the local dump, the main claim to
fame of which is its record for bullying! Not _my_ kids, they don't!

Phil, who went to a state school -- but I was lucky enough to win
admission to an "academic" school. Such institutions seem to be
anathema to the educational lowerarchy these days....
------------------------------------------------------------
"Sic Transit Gloria Barramundi"
   (Or, So Long and Thanks for All the Fish!)
   -- not Douglas Adams, but me: Phil Atcliffe
                         (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk)
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:36:05 +0200
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Oh, rats...!

Someone just wrote asking for Peace's email address. But I deleted the email
before I could answer...! Sorry everyone, for cluttering your mail box...

Anyway, this will reach the person in question (I hope!).

I don't know what's her email, but if you go and visit her web page, I'm
sure
you'll find it there: www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7137

I hope this helps!
Celia
:)
>From a very sunny and warm Portugal.
CARVALHO@LEXMARK.COM
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From:         Kate Kent <KateKent@AOL.COM>
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Hey FoLCs-

I got such an overwhelming and positive response from the first few items I
put up for sale.  At the same time I felt bad for people who check their
e-mail lets often who miss out.  I got a ton of responses for each item.  So
I decided with this next batch of items I would try ebay.  So I thought I
would send you all the links of my two items.  Good Luck.  A link is
provided
for those who can access them, otherwise the URL is also provided.

TERI HATCHER & DEAN CAIN GLOSSY TATTOO PHOTO
<A
HREF="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=113523665">eBay
item 113523665 (Ends 06/14/99, 12:47:05 PDT) - Dean Cain & Teri Hatcher
Glossy 8 X 10 Photo
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DEAN CAIN IN YM MAGAZINE
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item 113519925 (Ends 06/14/99, 12:38:12 PDT) - Lois & Clark's Superman Dean
Cain magazine
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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=113519925

Happy Bidding
Kate
Dreamkate1@aol.com
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 17:39:28 -0400
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Hi,

Does anyone recall the name of the paper Nunk worked for?  I was planning to
mention it in a fic I'm working on.

Thanks,
Dawn
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In a message dated 6/4/99 4:36:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
rfield@ROANOKE.INFI.NET writes:

<< Does anyone recall the name of the paper Nunk worked for?  I was planning
to
 mention it in a fic I'm working on. >>

Apparently Nunk worked for the National Inquisitor. At least that's the
tabloid Clark is carrying and reading as he and Lois walk up the street. On
the cover it says, "Reporter still searching for lost mind" and the inside
story (using a steampic photo) says: "Lane & Kent: Wedded Blitz"  <g>
Moments later they run into Nunk. He sees the tabloid in Clark's hand and
says, "Doing a reassessment of my work?" and Lois comments that she's just
looking for a bird cage liner.

Zoomway@aol.com (darn, I liked Nunk ;)
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Date:         Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:26:29 +1000
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From:         Jenny Stosser <jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
Subject:      Re: OT: New Australian Legislation
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At 09:06 AM 04/06/99 -0400, Demona (Angel Of The Night) wrote:
>Hiya FoLCs ;)
>
>Now, before you read any farther, I should say that this post may not be of
>interest to this entire list.  If it is not of interest to you, please read
>no farther.  This concerns new legislation in Australia regarding R rated
>Internet content (ratings as may be determined by a TV or film broadcast
>type of regulating body).

<big snip>

I have to admit that I'm finding the article fascinating.  Joe (my dear,
beloved hubby) was more aware of the *proposed* legislation than I was,
but, interestingly, it turns out that I'm feeling more militantly against
it than he is.  After reading Demi's post, I went to the EFA website and
read some of the actual legislation.

I want to point out that having passed the senate does NOT mean that this
is law in Australia - yet.  It still has to pass through the House of
Representatives before that happens.  So quick!  Before it becomes illegal
- bring out your nfic and send it to me! <G>

Seriously though, I believe that unless I am *unable* to access nfic sites
if this law is passed, I intend to continue to do so.  On the EFA site
there was a comic-toned interview with a "Senator Richard Canoot"
(http://www.efa.org.au/Campaigns/stoprain.html) who suggests that the
government should legislate to protect children from the weather, even it
it also meant they should be "protected" from sunshine.  I'll just quote
one line from it here:

"Q But shouldn't parents keep their children out of the weather?
SC: Some parents will, but many parents are irresponsible.  Besides,
parents are not always in a position to judge the weather, so the
government must stip in and do the job for them."

As a parent of two kids (almost 7 and almost 4) I believe that my reading
and downloading nfic (and even Joe's looking at various R rated websites
(which he does on MY logon, and with my permission - heck he lets me drool
over Dean in public in "trade" <G>) is not an issue.  I don't read those
>from those sites (and Joe doesn't view his sites) when the kids are around.
 There's a time and a place for everything, and I firmly believe that it's
up to parents to decide where and what their kids see - whether it's on the
internet, or at the movies, or books or magazines their kids see and/or
read.  The ratings used for movies generally should be *guidelines* as to
what is appropriate for various age groups!  They should not be
*enforceable by law*!

Up until now, I was under the impression that the government was about to
bring in a new rating called NVE for Non-Violent Erotica, however there is
NO reference to this rating in the legislation.  I am more concerned about
Joe having a copy of Wolfenstein on his computer and playing it when the
kids are around than any of the topics dealt with by the proposed
legislation.

Jen
PS (Comments on this should probably be taken to private email, unless
list-parents differ?)

jenerator@ozemail.com.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn
(Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- JenerEight on AIM -*- ICQ: 11477318
Photos of David (6) and Megan (3) on the Stosser Family HomePage:
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:29:28 EDT
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I'm not really sure but I thought someone posted a message on here looking
for a copy of the episode "It's a Small World" if anyone is looking for it
there is a auction here for it! :
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http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110620644
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Date:         Fri, 4 Jun 1999 19:31:53 -0400
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From:         Sandy McDermin <smcdermin@EROLS.COM>
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Hi Folcs:

I hope it's okay to post this.

There's an independent bookstore, "Politics and Prose," which is
literally a hop, skip, and a jump from my apt. and is simply marvelous.
They have wonderful author talks and signings.  Recently, I attended a
reading by Al Franken there.  And, Tom Wolfe has appeared, A.S. Byatt,
Alice McDermott, and, of course, "scribes" from the political community
such as George Stephanopoulos, among others.  Anyway, I opened my weekly
e-mail newsletter from them today to find that Richard Belzer (our dear
Inspector Henderson from Lois and Clark's "All Shook Up," "Witness,"
"Foundling," "The House of Luthor," ?) will be "giving a talk" (more
like performing, no doubt) this coming Monday, June 7.  I'm sure he'll
be taking questions, too, and probably signing his book.

The price is right.  It's free. (The $24 referred to below is the price
of his new book, with the interesting title.)

The details follow, such as they are.  For those in the Washington
Metropolitan Area, I include the store's address, phone number, and
website, if you're interested in attending Belzer's appearance or
getting more info.

Please feel free to pass this along as I'm not on any other L&C list.

Sandy
smcdermin@erols.com

GREETINGS FROM POLITICS & PROSE!

[SNIP]

UPCOMING AUTHOR EVENTS:

[SNIP]

Monday, June 7 at 7 p.m. Incomparable comedian Richard Belzer’s UFOS,
JFK, AND
ELVIS (Ballantine, $24) deconstructs the Warren Commission’s case like
no other
book. Don’t miss this chance to catch Belzer’s savage, unpredictable
commentary
live.

[SNIP]

Politics & Prose Bookstore and Coffeehouse
5015 Connecticut Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20008
(202) 364-1919 (800) 722-0790
fax: (202) 966-7532
books@politics-prose.com
http://www.politics-prose.com
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Speaking of Nunk.. don't kind of find it ironic that the actor played a
co-worker of Libby on "Life Goes On," and then he shows up on LnC a few
years
later.  Just like the coach played Becca's dad in "Life Goes On" and Dean
and
him were later reunited for "Futuresport." =)

Alexis ;-.)
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>>Fortunately, Jocelyn is a Special Education teacher and has forgotten
more about that kind of condition than the school ever knew. <<

Hey that's my name!!!  I never meet anyone with that name . . .
~Jocelyn
===
Jocelyn R Hoffman
dreaminglight@yahoo.com
jocelynr@hotmail.com
ICQ # 17261915 <><

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Hi!

I am looking for one more member to my SOSL&C Club newsletter.  I am looking
for someone who would like to be a LnC fanfic recommender/reviewer.  If this
job interests you.. please email me privately at MsLoisette@aol.com

Thanks.
Alexis ;-.)
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From:         Debby <Debby@SWCP.COM>
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Jumping into this thread started by something I wrote without thinking twice
about it... ;)

I took some classes in Mexico City in the summer of 1973 (yes, that long
ago...) and the teacher of one of them warned us that "A's are for god; B's
are
for the teachers..." etc. I don't recall what I got ;) Before hand she sat
down
with each of us and determined how much Spanish we knew so she could place
us
in the right classes :) I was placed in a mildly advanced class, having
taken
high school Spanish for 3 years.  The fun part of the summer though was
bopping
around Mexico City for 6 weeks :D Some of that went into a recent Dawning
(not
too recent... hmm, last year... I have to reread all that...)

All that worry about grades and it turns out that about the only class that
was
helpful to me was the typing class I took in highschool...

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
class of '69...

>from an email about new movies out soon...

"- FINDING NORTH (No rating) - Road movie explores the relationship between
a
woman and her "ideal man," who turns out to be gay. Wendy Makkena, John
Benjamin
Hickey, Jonathan Walker. Directed by Tanya Wexler. (New York)

- LIMBO (R) - A traumatized fisherman falls for a lounge singer, but things
get
complicated when the fisherman's brother comes to town seeking a favor. Mary
Elizabeth Mastrantonio, David Strathairn, Vanessa Martinez. Directed by John
Sayles. (Limited engagements)"
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From:         "Raymond, Melody" <Raymond@AAOS.ORG>
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Hi Everyone,

I would like to bring you an update to the announcement made last week about
being able to participate in sponsoring Dean in the Joe Torry Giving Back
the Love Foundation Celebrity Basketball Game on July 10th in St. Louis.

I want to thank all of those who have already donated, we appreciate it very
much and we are sure that Dean will also appreciate it.  Remember this is
helping kids who are less fortunate then we are.

I want to let you all know that we have so far collected $500.00.  We are
half way there!   If we raise the $1,000.00 by June 10th, we will be able to
have the sponsorship printed in the program book for the events.  We can
still continue to collect money toward the goal and become Dean's sponsor
after the 10th, so please don't hesitate to send in your donation, if you
have not yet done so.

If you are planning to send a donation, but you are not sure that it would
arrive at the post office box by the 10th, please email your name and
address and the amount you are sending to Sue (LoisLnKent@aol.com) as a
pledge and tell her when you are mailing it.  She will be able to add it to
the total for our goal.  If you live outside the US please send a check,
money order or cash in US dollars and email Sue about it.

Following is the original announcement that I sent last week:

Attention all Dean Cain Lovers and Fellow FoLC

You have probably heard by now that Dean will be playing in a basketball
game
in St. Louis on July 10 sponsored by The Joe Torry Giving Back the Love
Foundation.  If you would like more information on the foundation or the
game, check out the web site at www.joetorryfoundation.com.  If you would
like more information on how to join the FoLC who are already attending the
event, contact MelRaymond@aol.com.

If you are unable to make the trek to St. Louis, here is your chance to be a

part of the event and let Dean you care - all while helping out a good
cause.

The JTF is soliciting companies and organization to "sponsor" one particular

guest.  What that really means is that they are soliciting $1,000 donations
and giving credit to that organization by recognizing them as a particular
celebrity sponsor.  We can't have anyone sponsor Dean except the FoLC and
online Dean Cain admirers.

What we need from you...
If we raise $1,000, we can get recognition in the program that the FoLC
sponsored Dean for the event.  We will also make sure that Dean receives a
detailed listing of the names of the FoLC who sponsored him.  If we don't
raise $1,000, all money will be donated to the JTF and we will be listed as
a
sponsor - something like "Dean Cain's online supporters" AND we will still
give Dean a listing of the names of those who contributed.

If you would like to participate, send a $5 or $10 check (or more if you
want) made payable to JOE TORRY GIVING BACK THE LOVE FOUNDATION (or JOE
TORRY
FOUNDATION if you write big) and mail it to P.O. Box 10966, St. Louis, MO
63135.  Be sure to include your real name (if you want) and your screen
name.
 I will use both (or just one if you wish) on the personal listing that we
will present to Dean.  I'm the only one who has access to this post office
box, so nobody else will get the checks.  They will all be turned into the
JTF on June 10.

Time is limited...
Your money MUST be received by June 10.  The book goes to print on June 13,
so we must raise the $1,000 before then.

We know that you are all out there and that you want to Dean to know it,
too.
 Send your donation today.

Sue
LoisLnKent@aol.com

Melody
melraymond@aol.com
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"C.C. Malo" wrote:
> Day 2 --Enjoyed the way  lines from the show were worked into the dialogue
> between Cat & Clark.   re the Clark / Cat relatioship:  Sandy wrote:
<<You
> know, I would *love* to have Clark go out on a date with Cat a time or two
> *before* Lois shows up.  THAT would be a very interesting dynamic. >>
Well,
> maybe -- but the idea of Clark in bed with Cat kinda kills the magic of
the
> Lois  & Clark  relationship.    I know, I know --- he hasn't even met Lois
> yet.

Why, Carol, you devil!  I said nothing about Clark climbing into bed
with Cat. People can go on a couple of dates without ending up in bed,
right?  That's what my dates told *me*.... W-a-a-it a minute.  Were they
lying? Are you saying...?  Men!  Darn them!  Gypped again!

I ... uh, *erroneously* retyped:
> >>"Dr. Toni Baines.  She's beautiful.  She's a physicist and she's the
> >>Director or the Agency."
> >
> >Why would Platt mention that Baines' is beautiful?  Why would this even
> >occur to him in the midst of this?

Debby responded:
> Maybe he had a crush on her from a far... oh, did I type "or" instead of
"of"?
> /me checks... no, phew :)  I did eariler corrected a few typos discovered
by a
> discerning rader and uploaded a better version.

Oh, sorry ... you found that.<g>  When I'm only commenting on a line or
two I sometimes just retype the text rather than cut and paste.  *And,*
when I do that, I then subtly introduce small mistakes here and there
which I can later point out to the author causing them much
confusion.... <twirling mustache, dastardly>  This isn't my night at
all!

Debby wrote:
> >>"...They've done this to the Messenger -- what about the
> >>passenger transport vehicle -- the New Hope??"

I said:
> >The "New Hope?"  Is that a bow to Star Wars Part IV or have I been
> >reading the "current movies" usenet group too much?

She said:
> I just decided that the "passenger transport vehicle" needed a name--it is
an
> important part of the space program. Did I inadvertently steal a name? I
> didn't see SW-IV...

You didn't see the original Star Wars?  Hmm.  Well, at some point after
it was released a subtitle was added to the first movie (Part IV),
distinguishing it from The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
It was called, A New Hope -- referring to Luke Skywalker one would
assume.

Sandy
smcdermin@erols.com
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Sandy McDermin wrote: <<Why, Carol, you devil!  I said nothing about Clark
climbing into bed with Cat. People can go on a couple of dates without
ending
up in bed, right?  That's what my dates told *me*.... W-a-a-it a minute.
Were they lying? Are you saying...?  Men!  Darn them!  Gypped again!>>

Yes, I'm afraid you were gyped, Sandy.  I read a review of Sex in the City
and so I know how things are. :-)  First date, probably;  second date, sure
thing.  (My husband frowns on my dating, so I have limited personal
experience here.)

The great thing about Clark Kent,  (well, one of the great things ) is that
he has integrity when it comes to women;  the great thing about Cat is that
she has no integrity about men.  Now  Cat was one of my favourite characters
in the show -- she "enjoyed" the finer aspects of a diversity of men, a
rather nice hobby, I thought.   The Lois / Cat sniping in the first season
was also fun.

So, I'm happy to see Debby incorporating Cat into "My Journal" and can't
wait
to see how the whole story evolves, especially the Lois angle which is quite
a different take on the "beginning" of the Lois and Clark story.

Carol
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At 11:09 PM 06/04/1999 -0400, Sandy McD wrote:
>"C.C. Malo" wrote:
>> Day 2 --Enjoyed the way  lines from the show were worked into the
dialogue
>> between Cat & Clark.   re the Clark / Cat relatioship:  Sandy wrote:
<<You
>> know, I would *love* to have Clark go out on a date with Cat a time or
two
>> *before* Lois shows up.  THAT would be a very interesting dynamic. >>
Well,
>> maybe -- but the idea of Clark in bed with Cat kinda kills the magic of
the
>> Lois  & Clark  relationship.    I know, I know --- he hasn't even met
Lois
>> yet.
>
>Why, Carol, you devil!  I said nothing about Clark climbing into bed
>with Cat. People can go on a couple of dates without ending up in bed,
>right?  That's what my dates told *me*.... W-a-a-it a minute.  Were they
>lying? Are you saying...?  Men!  Darn them!  Gypped again!

         :D  I think Cat is wiser than to press her luck with a nice fellow
like CK. I think that if she hinted at it, he'd tell her he was flattered -
*really* flattered... but he wanted to wait. She'd think: I better hold on
to
this guy!  :D  I like to think of her as being a lot deeper and more
interesting than the stereotypes provided by the show...

>I ... uh, *erroneously* retyped:
>> >>"Dr. Toni Baines.  She's beautiful.  She's a physicist and she's the
>> >>Director or the Agency."
>> >
>> >Why would Platt mention that Baines' is beautiful?  Why would this even
>> >occur to him in the midst of this?
>
>Debby responded:
>> Maybe he had a crush on her from a far... oh, did I type "or" instead of
"of"?
>> /me checks... no, phew :)  I did eariler corrected a few typos
discovered by
a
>> discerning rader and uploaded a better version.
>
>Oh, sorry ... you found that.<g>  When I'm only commenting on a line or
>two I sometimes just retype the text rather than cut and paste.  *And,*
>when I do that, I then subtly introduce small mistakes here and there
>which I can later point out to the author causing them much
>confusion.... <twirling mustache, dastardly>  This isn't my night at
>all!

Aw, I still like ya! :D  Often when I go in to correct something... I'll
fail
to remove all of the old part and/or introduce new errors... I hate that...
Today, 6/5/99 AM, I'm uploading yet another version of MJ2 with more typos
fixed... just think, only 13 more installments... ;)

>Debby wrote:

[snip pointing out name New Hope]

>> I just decided that the "passenger transport vehicle" needed a name--it
is
an
>> important part of the space program. Did I inadvertently steal a name? I
>> didn't see SW-IV...
>
>You didn't see the original Star Wars?  Hmm.  Well, at some point after
>it was released a subtitle was added to the first movie (Part IV),
>distinguishing it from The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
>It was called, A New Hope -- referring to Luke Skywalker one would
>assume.

No chance it would be Princes Leia, huh, those white sexists capitalists...
okay, on the world where CK is writing his journal, Star Wars bombed at the
box
office and no sequels or prequels were made :) However, Harrison Ford did
go on
to make Indiana Jones, and CK sometimes wonders if it was inspired by his
own
exploits... ;) Now *there's* some fanfic!

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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Here is Peace's e-mail addy.

peace9@servtech.com

Piper
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Thanks for the responses.

>Apparently Nunk worked for the National Inquisitor. At least that's the
tabloid Clark is carrying and reading as he and >Lois walk up the street. On
the cover it says, "Reporter still searching for lost mind" and the inside
story (using a >steampic photo) says: "Lane & Kent: Wedded Blitz" <g>
Moments later they run into Nunk. He sees the tabloid in >Clark's hand and
says, "Doing a reassessment of my work?" and Lois comments that she's just
looking for a bird cage >liner.
>Zoomway@aol.com (darn, I liked Nunk ;)

I liked Nunk, too, and that's why I wanted to include him in my story.  He
would have been fun in SL&V.

Thanks again,
Dawn
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Sandy McDermin wrote:
>
> You didn't see the original Star Wars?  Hmm.  Well, at some point after
> it was released a subtitle was added to the first movie (Part IV),
> distinguishing it from The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
> It was called, A New Hope -- referring to Luke Skywalker one would
> assume.

I just had to comment on this!  The subtitle was not added after the
original release -- it was always there.  George Lucas made a gutsy move
when he released "Star Wars," and the first screen you see, the one with
all the text, read:  "Episode IV / A New Hope."  Lucas had always planned to
make several movies, and "A New Hope" fit into the middle of the series.
Most people just didn't really notice the subtitle until the later episodes
were released and the subtitles to those figured prominently in the movies'
promotion.

-Emily (an unabashed Star Wars fan) :)
--
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"And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover, To entertain these fair
well-spoken days, I am determined to prove a villain And hate the idle
pleasures of these days." -- Richard III, quoted by Lex Luthor
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Sandy wrote:
>>
>> You didn't see the original Star Wars?  Hmm.  Well, at some point after
>> it was released a subtitle was added to the first movie (Part IV),
>> distinguishing it from The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
>> It was called, A New Hope -- referring to Luke Skywalker one would
>> assume.

And Emily responded:
>
>I just had to comment on this!  The subtitle was not added after the
>original release -- it was always there.

>-Emily (an unabashed Star Wars fan) :)

Only in certain necks of the wood, Emily. <g> Here in the UK, it wasn't
added until the video release of Star Wars and in some cinemas from its
original release date. In others the subtitle didn't arrive until some
months after it had been running to audiences and they began using an
updated version. So there *were* versions running on this side of the Pond
at least without the subtitles at one point.  Perhaps the same was true in
certain parts of the US and both of you are correct?

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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"What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I
definitely overpaid for my carpet." -- Woody Allen, Without Feathers, 1976.

"I won't eat anything that has intelligent life but I would gladly eat a
network executive or politician." - Marty Feldman.
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Debby,

I just read parts 1 and 2 of My Journal, and I have to say that it is
wonderfully written and full of suspense.

Nethra
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Here's the conversation so far:

> Sandy wrote:
>>>
>>> You didn't see the original Star Wars?  Hmm.  Well, at some point after
>>> it was released a subtitle was added to the first movie (Part IV),
>>> distinguishing it from The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.
>>> It was called, A New Hope -- referring to Luke Skywalker one would
>>> assume.
>
> And Emily responded:
>>
>> I just had to comment on this!  The subtitle was not added after the
>> original release -- it was always there.
>
Then LabRat wrote:
>
> Only in certain necks of the wood, Emily. <g> Here in the UK, it wasn't
> added until the video release of Star Wars and in some cinemas from its
> original release date. In others the subtitle didn't arrive until some
> months after it had been running to audiences and they began using an
> updated version. So there *were* versions running on this side of the Pond
> at least without the subtitles at one point.  Perhaps the same was true in
> certain parts of the US and both of you are correct?

Ah, shoot.  I need to do my research before I open my mouth!  OK, it was in
the *second* theatrical release (which is what confused me -- I was thinking
it was a theatrical release, and the normal argument is that the title
showed up on video or later, which is *not* what was stated here; I was just
being an idiot) that the subtitle appeared.  This was in 1980, in the
release prior to the first theatrical release of The Empire Strikes Back.

However, as early as 1977 (the movie's first release) there were rumors that
this was a trilogy of trilogies, and that "Star Wars" was in the second
trilogy.  (I was in grade school at the time and was even told that all nine
books based on the movies had been published.  By, was I dying to get my
hands on those!  Funny how they never could be located ...)  These rumors
were still wrong, to an extent; George Lucas maintains that he never
intended a third trilogy.

-Emily (who had better crawl under a rock before she embarrasses herself
further)

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Its quaint events were hammered out -- and now the tale is done,
And home we steer, a merry crew, beneath the setting sun." -Lewis Carroll
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In a message dated 6/5/99 7:00:50 AM Central Daylight Time, Ccmalo@AOL.COM
writes:

<< The great thing about Clark Kent,  (well, one of the great things ) is
that
 he has integrity when it comes to women;  the great thing about Cat is that
 she has no integrity about men.  Now  Cat was one of my favourite
characters
 in the show -- she "enjoyed" the finer aspects of a diversity of men, a
 rather nice hobby, I thought.   The Lois / Cat sniping in the first season
 was also fun. >>

I have to admit to being in the minority where Cat Grant is concerned. I was
glad she vanished after first season.  I couldn't believe her wardrobe would
be tolerated in the work place for one thing, but worse, her behavior, which
would have been quickly labeled "sexual harassment" had the character been
male and treated a female coworker the way Cat treated Clark, really
bothered
me. And I cannot, in my wildest dreams, imagine Clark even entertaining the
thought of dating her <g>  Again, had the genders been reversed, I'd have
lost respect for a female character who thought about dating a man who saw
her as nothing more than a slab of meat.

Of course I'm talking about the characters as depicted n the series, not
necessarily in fanfic.  It was clear Clark had next to no interest in Cat
and
on occasion almost seemed repulsed by her. My favorite reaction was in All
Shook Up where Cat thought she finally had her shot at Clark by taking
advantage of his lost memory.  When Cat told him they had a thing going on
together, Clark looked for all the world like a little boy being force-fed
cod liver oil <g>  Cat also seemed to think that sex was a cure-all. When
Clark was inconsolable after his conversation with Lex and deciding to stop
being Superman in Neverending Battle, Cat cuddled up to him and said, "What
you need is a 'pick-me-up'." Clark fixed her with such a "back off" stare
that Cat released him like she'd been electrocuted and said, "Or maybe not,"
and exited.

The sniping between Cat and Lois had its moments, but since Lois was almost
exclusively the butt of office jokes first season, Cat just seemed one more
in a never-ending list of hecklers. So, I have to admit my favorite moment
was Lois finally getting Cat with the "Cat Chow" comment, and that she had
Clark laughing on her side with that one. It was one of the few times back
then that someone laughed *with* Lois as opposed to laughing *at* her.

Maybe given time and a couple of "life altering" experiences, Cat could have
evolved just as Lois and Clark had, but in first season, no, there were few
facets to Cat Grant. Even when she had moments of compassion in Witness or
Man of Steel Bars (oddly enough, episodes not written by regular staff
writers) they were merely that, "moments". She soon reverted to type and
such
kindnesses were forgotten by the next episode. The closest Cat got to
self-awareness was in All Shook Up when she discovered none of her "one
night" men wanted to spend the end of the world with her.  It's a poignant
moment...until she propositions the priest ;) The only reason I would have
liked to see Cat continue into the second season would have been to have her
witness Lois and Clark falling in love with each other. The ultimate "life
lesson". ;)

Zoomway@aol.com ("he who laughs last, didn't get the joke until much later"
;)
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At 10:10 AM 06/04/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>Debby, I'm hooked already.  Keep it coming.
>
>Charlotte

13 more mailings... I'm glad folcs like details :D

Debby
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At 08:23 AM 06/04/1999 -0400, Carol M. wrote:
>It's great to have something by Debby to read once more and I eagerly await
>the next installment.  "My Journal" flows so smoothly with such good use of
>detail that I find myself quite caught up in it and it's a bit of a shock
to
>come to the  "to be continued" sign.  More soon, please ?

Currently I figure to post on Sundays and Thursdays for quite some time to
come
yet...

>Just to be safe -- spoilers ahead
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>
>Day 1 was pleasant: an enjoyable tour through the Planet, (great
description
>of the newsroom)

I liked the newsroom of Superman The Movie (#1) and of All The President's
Men,
which I understand was modeled after the Washington Post? (which makes
sense...)

>and  also through the mind of Clark Kent  (who sounded a bit
>like Benton Frasier a couple of times) .

I like Frasier a lot. Picture the RayK era version for my story though :)

>Clark addressing his great
>grandchildren is touching

Hope springs eternal.

>and Jimmy has "dark reddish hair" --yeah!

Sort of a combo of both Jimmys. I have not drawn a picture of him to scan
though. ;)

>Plus a
>suggestion of suspense about Perry's motive in hiring Clark.

Yes... :)

>Day 2 --Enjoyed the way  lines from the show were worked into the dialogue
>between Cat & Clark.   re the Clark / Cat relatioship:  Sandy wrote:  <<You
>know, I would *love* to have Clark go out on a date with Cat a time or two
>*before* Lois shows up.  THAT would be a very interesting dynamic. >>
Well,
>maybe -- but the idea of Clark in bed with Cat kinda kills the magic of the
>Lois  & Clark  relationship.    I know, I know --- he hasn't even met Lois
>yet.

I replied to this elsewhere. I think Cat likes men and enjoys getting
exercise,
but she hasn't found the man to love yet.

>WONDERFUL build up of suspense about Lois Lane -- at this point, I seem to
>remember that Debby wrote that she was working on something darker than
>Dawning in a post to the list.  This comment now has added to the suspense
>about Lois and the story will not leave my mind.

I hope you'll find a variety of emotions triggers as you read along :)

>It's interesting to read a story written from Clark's POV.   First person
is
>very difficult to write, I think, and still keep the reader involved,
>particularly when the reader already has a strong idea of what the
character
>is.  So far, it's working well.

First person POV has a lot of limitations, mostly in that the character,
unless
psychic, can't know what's going on everywhere... which worked for decades
for
Agatha Christi :) I like CK a lot so I hope I do him justice (and inspire
others to consider writing for other L&C characters in the first person)

>Can't wait for day 3,
>Carol

Currently I plan to post it on Sunday.  Last Thursday my connection to the
internet was abysmal and it took forever to get on. That was a hectic
morning.
My ISP and I think that the telephone lines sometimes can't deal with 56K
and I
now have some ideas about adjusting my speed downward to compensate. Better
a
slow speed (49,333) that flows smoothly than a fast speed (50666 or more)
that
can't get connected at all.

Debby :)
Debby@swcp.com
Babbling...
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>-Emily (who had better crawl under a rock before she embarrasses herself
>further)
>

Aw, shucks Emily, get out from under - we all have days like that one! <G>
Besides, you're just jabbering to friends.

And anyway, I only know because, like many, I visited the same cinema for
months on a weekly basis after the release of Star Wars to get my fix of the
magic. Trust me - I had every second of that movie imprinted on my brain.
And there was no New Hope. Then, one day - there was! I'd become something
of a familiar face around the cinema by that point <g>, so afterwards I
asked the manager if I'd been seeing things and he said no, it was a new
print that had just arrived and the old print had been recalled by the
distributors.

Otherwise, I'd have been none the wiser really. <g>

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
labrat@ukf.net

"What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I
definitely overpaid for my carpet." -- Woody Allen, Without Feathers, 1976.

"I won't eat anything that has intelligent life but I would gladly eat a
network executive or politician." - Marty Feldman.
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In a message dated 06/05/1999 8:53:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Debby@SWCP.COM writes about Cat:

<< I like to think of her as being a lot deeper and more
 interesting than the stereotypes provided by the show... >>

Well, Clark did notice she had quite a library so I suspect there was some
depth we never really saw.

--L
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At 12:55 PM 06/05/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>Debby,
>
>I just read parts 1 and 2 of My Journal, and I have to say that it is
wonderfully written and full of suspense.
>
>Nethra

Thank you.

         :D

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark/Stories
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Hi Everybody,

I'm afraid the recent contradicting posts about copyright on this list have
left me rather confused.  I am posting the following article to do with
plans for a new Superman movie under the assumption that it *is* OK to post
articles etc, if sources are acknowledged. (So please don't get mad at me
for posting!)

This is rather off topic seeing as it's not strictly about fanfic, but it
*is* very Superman related.  Also, perhaps it may inspire some list readers
to do the same, if the subject of this article's endeavours are not met with
success.

This morning's paper contained the following article, and the story was
reported has been reported by the 6:00 news, Channel 9 (with scenes from L&C
included, very nice =).

"Luke, up in the sky" Tallon, Stelle, Sunday Mail, Page 11, 06/06/99

... indicate that I've left our the unimportant bits of the article, because
I don't have time to type out the entire thing =)

It's a bird, it's a plane - it's Luke Lesson! The mild-mannered 20 year
old... has been plucked from obscurity by Hollywood after writing a plot for
a new Superman movie.

Mr Lesson was flown to America by giant Hollywood studio Warner Brothers for
whirlwind negtiations over a six-figure deal during the past fortnight.

Yesterday, he was waiting to see if he would receive the offer for his story
about the Man Of Steel, which he penned in just 10 days earlier this year.

... Mr Leeson ... (he resides in Queensland, Australia)... said his
adventure started earlier this year when he decided to "sit down and write a
new story" after hearing that plans for a fifth movie in the Superman series
had been put on hold.

He had no previous experience in the movie industry, let alone written a
big-budge movie.

A long-time comic-book reader and Superman fan, he produced 42 hand written
scenes and gave them to a friend's cousin, who had contacts in Hollywood.

Mr Leeson thought nothing more of it until a month ago, when e was contacted
by representatives from Warner Brothers and flown to Sydney to pitch his
idea.

"They got back to me after the interview and wanted me to write some
dialogue for a few scenes and explain the characters a bit more" he said.

"Next thing you know, I'm on a plane to Los Angeles..."

Mr Leeson flew home last weekend and faced a nervous wait while Warner Bros
considered an offer rumoured to be worth more than $US 300 000.

******
End of article.

Very exciting news =) Hopefully if it DOES go ahead Nick Cage won't be
starring.

Personally, I would like to know if anybody here actually KNOWS Luke Leeson.
Perhaps he used to be an IRCer ? I don't recall his name on any fanfic.

BTW Australian FOLCS - Channel 9 is showing season 2 of Lois and Clark on
weekdays! (Don't ask how they got it off channel 7) They started on Friday,
so we've missed Madame Ex, but we have WOS on Monday at 9:30 am

I will not be able to answer any responses to this post for some time as I
am "going bush" on a school camping trip for 5 days, and won't be back until
next Saturday =)

Once again, I hope I have not offended or annoyed anybody, or violated any
list rules.

-- Tanya Walsh
AKA FFFirefly on IRC

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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 07:13:52 EDT
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FANZINE ALERT: THE MANY WORLDS OF LOIS AND CLARK

Calm down everyone I have the listmom's permission to make this announcement
:). So put away that kryptonite away and set those phasers on stun <eg>.

What is a Fanzine?

A fanzine is a collection of fan created short stories, in which the writers
expand upon themes and ideas involving their favorite fictional characters
and in some cases create an alternate perspective or history for them. This
particular fanzine is about our favorite Super Couple, and it raises the
question of "What would happen if ...? hence the title."

What is it for?

One of the originators of the Round Robin fanfic channel (Doris Schmill) has
been affected with a disease that  causes progressive vision loss. In order
to assist her in continuing to write, her fellow writers decided to have a
fund raiser for her. Those individuals wishing to donate at least $25
dollars
($25.00) will receive a fanzine as a gift. The money we raise will be used
to
offset the cost of the equipment that will allow her to write, and to access
her friends on the IRC once again. Any excess money raised will be donated
to
Christopher Reeve's charitable foundation.

Who are some of the authors?

We have one dozen original stories written by such Kerth award winning
authors as Chris Mulder, Zoomway, Sheila Harper, and Erin Klingler, as well
as the IRC round robin group.  These stories will not be available anywhere
else for at least a year.

How can I get one?

For FOLCs in the U.S.: Send your donation of at least $25 (more is always
welcome to help offset some of the costs of reproducing the fanzine <g>), to
R.E. Ray, P.O. BOX 45063, Washington DC, 20026-5063. Checks and money orders
are preferable and should be made payable to R.E. Ray.  You *must* include
your name and mailing address so that you can receive your gift fanzine.

For EuroFOLCs: Contact Nicky at NKWolke@t-online.de to coordinate how to you
can donate to minimize the monetary exchange costs. I will still need your
names and addresses to mail your gift once you have made your donation.

For FOLCs in other parts of the world: Email me at Eraygun@gmx.net. And
we'll
try and figure out the best course of action ;).

Anything else I should know?

Because real life and work have a nasty habit of getting in the way we can
only offer the gift fanzine for a limited time. So if you are interested GET
YOUR DONATIONS IN BY: July 19, 1999!

If you have any questions please email me at Eraygun@gmx.net. Thanks again
for your time, interest, generosity. FOLCs are the greatest ;).

Cheers,
Eileen
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From:         Debby <Debby@SWCP.COM>
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At 07:11 PM 06/05/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 06/05/1999 8:53:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>Debby@SWCP.COM writes about Cat:
>
><< I like to think of her as being a lot deeper and more
> interesting than the stereotypes provided by the show... >>
>
>Well, Clark did notice she had quite a library so I suspect there was some
>depth we never really saw.
>
>--L

She also had normal relaxing in clothing (that sweat shirt, for example).
She
ate healthy foods like bananas and obviously took care of her health. I
suspect
she dressed unusually (to our eyes) because it was expected of her as the
gossip columnist, a job she was very good at.

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
Cat fan
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From:         Phillip Atcliffe <Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK>
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On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:49:59 +0100 LabRat <labrat@UKF.NET> wrote:

>>-Emily (who had better crawl under a rock before she embarrasses
herself further) <<

> Aw, shucks Emily, get out from under - we all have days like that
one! <G> Besides, you're just jabbering to friends. <

I second that. Anyone remember the great St Eleanor controversy? I
lived, and so did everyone else (the sofa cushion, OTOH, is MIA <g>).
FWIW, "Episode IV" was also conspicuous by its absence from those
prints of the film first shown in Australia -- which I saw several
times, although perhaps not as often as LabRat, by the sound of it <g>.
It wasn't until TESB came out that I even learned that the first film
was supposed to be Episode IV, and I didn't learn about the title "A
New Hope" for some years after that.

Phil
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Phil wrote:

>FWIW, "Episode IV" was also conspicuous by its absence from those
>prints of the film first shown in Australia -- which I saw several
>times, although perhaps not as often as LabRat, by the sound of it <g>.

What can I say, Phil? I was young and foolish. And the words mortgage and
telephone internet charges were but a distant nightmare. <G> Sigh. Those
were the days...

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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"What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I
definitely overpaid for my carpet." -- Woody Allen, Without Feathers, 1976.

"I won't eat anything that has intelligent life but I would gladly eat a
network executive or politician." - Marty Feldman.
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In a message dated 6/5/99 12:28:04 PM CST, ccsupec@HELEN.OIT.GATECH.EDU
writes:

<<  (I was in grade school at the time and was even told that all nine
 books based on the movies had been published.  By, was I dying to get my
 hands on those!  Funny how they never could be located ...)   >>

I was working in a B.Dalton's Bookseller at the time and I remember a guy
coming in, looking for the complete Star Wars.  He *insisted* that it was
out
in one large volume, containing all 9 stories, and that a friend of his had
it!  This is how rumors are perpetuated. <g>

Piper
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TITLE: My Journal
         Day 3, Thursday, May 5, PART (01/05)
         AUTHOR Debby Stark, Debby@swcp.com
         RATING PG-13
         FEEDBACK Comments welcome in all forums
         No Editing please (though you can fix typos)
         No attachments come with this installment

         SUMMARY  Read Days 1 and 2 before Day 3. Clark Kent's adventures in
Metropolis continue. All portions of this story are or will be available on
my
site, ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark/Stories/MyJournal

All characters below belong to DC Comics and Warner Brothers unless they
are my
own creations. Story by Debby Stark, Debby@swcp.com. Submitted on June 6,
1999

                  My Journal

Thursday, May 5

         After emailing yesterday's journal entry home, I forced myself to
slow
down and make that first "home" cooked meal I had planned. It tasted fine. I
ate it at a normal pace, sitting at the unsteady little dining room table
(though there is no dining room) while reading several of the free
newspapers I
picked up at the market. Then I washed up and put everything away. Normal,
normal, normal.
         While I did all this, I listened for any signs that someone might
be
spying on me.
         I guess when I get paranoid, I don't go half way.
         The frog metaphor abides deep within my soul, no doubt about it.
         But I refuse to let anyone scare me out of my home even if it isn't
very homey at the moment, even if I can't overtly be me here.
         I heard wildlife scooting about in the walls around me. Bugs... in
more ways than one? It seems to me that if there is some form of microphone
hidden in my apartment, it should give off a signal that maybe I can hear.
Maybe it could be an echo as it picks up sounds or transmits them, or an
electronic buzz. I thought about asking Dr. Platt for advice since he's sure
his home is bugged. I'd have to ask him about it outside his home though.
         Beyond the walls of my apartment, neighbors near and far were doing
things people do in their normal lives. I didn't linger to listen longer
than
necessary to assure myself that I wasn't the topic of conversation. I also
heard street sounds: fast drivers burning rubber, people yelling at each
other,
TVs turned up loud to drown out the noises. Life in the big city. I have to
find a different place to live.
         I did go out for a walk, but only after closing myself in the
bathroom, checking every place in it for evidence of a hidden camera and
finding none. I floated up to the ceiling, eased open the ventilation grate,
and hid my laptop up behind it.
         I walked for an hour or so, seeing a lot, helping people out of a
few
sticky predicaments, but mainly calming down about my situation. I think one
thing that helped was discovering that this neighborhood, while poor and
neglected, isn't as bad as it sounded while I was eating. Real people live
here, day in, day out, trying to make things nicer for themselves and
apparently achieving a measure of success.
         As for my own predicament, I came to the conclusion that there's
the
chance I've let the odd treatment I've been receiving at work get to me. Mr.
White's warning about me being the low man on the totem pole could explained
it. What if it's just a simple conspiracy to goad me, to see what I can
take?
The world's tough, kid. It's bigger than Kansas. Affect a Clint
Eastwood-style
voice here: Can you survive a little teasing, Kent?
         Sure, I can!
         It was almost eight when I returned from my walk. Nothing had
changed.
There, see? I told myself. I turned on my radio, listened to the news -
suspicions of corrupt city politics, bad weather in the northern plains, the
recovery of plane crash victims in the Andes - until it became depressing
since
I can't do anything about any of it.
         That's not quite true. When I get settled into my job I can offer
to
help the Planet's political reporting team in their efforts to pull the
corruption into the light of day so that informed citizens can decide what
to
do about it.
         I found a National Public Radio station and a comedy broadcast. I
laid
in bed in the dark, listening. I scanned the walls, the ceiling, the floor,
everywhere. I didn't see anything other than what one would expect to find
in a
rundown apartment building, with the possible exception of the contents of
the
old pay phone on the wall opposite the bed. Given its age, who knows what
should or shouldn't be in it?
         I'm still glad I encrypted and compressed my journal entry though.
I've thought up a little virus that will destroy anything anyone
unauthorized
tries to open. If they keep trying, the virus will devour their BIOS. Even
if
I'm just being paranoid, I really do have to be more careful. I have to be
normal. That used to be what I wanted to be. Now I don't. I sure am hard to
please.
         I'll tell Mom and Dad about it tomorrow night at dinner so we don't
say anything weird over the phone. I can hear Dad's response already. But I
can
tell him that, if I am under surveillance, it means I've been in Metropolis
less than 72 hours and already someone thinks I'm important enough to
investigate. Thought about that way, it's really rather exciting.
         I hope no one saw me do the abnormal little things I did last
night.
         I took my laptop to work with me again this morning. As crazy as
it is
there, it's also safer. I arrived on time, greeted everyone I saw -
everyone is
still friendly and pleasant - and found an issue of this morning's paper. My
story on the theatre is in the Living in Metropolis section (see the
clippings). Jimmy's pictures really compliment it.
         Also, I found a surprise. On page four of the Editorial section,
under
"Your Daily Planet," there's a mention me!

                           New reporter joins staff

                           Clark Kent, most recently editor of the
                  Smallville Post, has joined the staff of the
                  Daily Planet and will be covering a wide-
                  ranging beat. His first story for the Planet
                  can be found in today's "Living in Metropolis"
                  section.

         Not a lot of information and no picture, so it keeps me a face in
the
crowd.
         I'll have to do something special with this particular clipping.
Maybe
I'll laminate it and mount it in a golden frame. I'll dedicate a wall to it
when I get a real apartment after I get a real paycheck. I'll have to
remember
to make a copy of that paycheck before I deposit it; I can frame the copy,
too.
         I attended the budget meeting. I stood in back and watched again.
When
he caught sight of me, Mr. White instructed me to continue working with
Eduardo, who said he agreed that my research on Dr. Platt and his role at
EPRAD
might be worthwhile. This sounded great to me: a chance to spend the day
quietly for the most part, maybe going out in the afternoon, armed with
facts
gleaned from other sources, to interview Dr. Platt again or talk to others
who
know him.
         When Cat mentioned that the arrangements for the White Orchid Ball
were on schedule, I remembered I'm supposed to go and I need a tux. I
decided
to take a break at ten and find the shop, "Max's", that Mr. White
recommended.
         For reasons that will quickly become clear, I was unable to follow
through on this idyllic plan.
         At 9:55 Mr. White breezed by, skidded to a halt, and pointed at me
"Where's Olsen?"
         I had no idea. I had last seen him at the budget meeting, where he
had
whispered to me during lunch he was going to pick up the tickets for the
Metros
game.

(continued)
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TITLE: My Journal
         Day 3, Thursday, May 5, PART (02/05)
         AUTHOR Debby Stark, Debby@swcp.com
         RATING PG-13

         "Well, find him. Police radio reports a 12-car pileup at the
intersection of the Crosstown and I-95. They say a bus is involved and a
chemical tanker. I need a photographer on the scene - now! He's done this
kind
of thing before and done okay - but he can't do it alone. I need a reporter
there, too. Do you think *you* can handle it if I send you along with him?
Can
you take the blood? The gore? The grief? The police who don't want you
there?
The rubberneckers causing more accidents? The ambulance attendants swearing
at
you? All that?"
         These were excellent questions. Given time to think about it, I
might
have balked at the idea. Given the choice, I don't voluntarily put myself in
unpleasant positions.
         On the other hand, my boss needed a reporter - now! - and I'm a
reporter. I've traveled the world and seen all kinds of things I might have
avoided had I been warned of them. But I survived each experience and, who
knows, maybe I'm stronger for it. I realized this might be one of those
situations.
         It took much longer to write these two paragraphs describing my
thought processes than it did to do the thinking. I stood up immediately.
"Yes,
sir, I can do it."
         Besides, just two months ago there was a pileup on I-35 west of
Smallville and three people wound up in the hospital. There had been
gruesome
elements in that: blood, screaming people and terrified children. It had
bothered me a great deal, but I didn't let that stop me from covering the
event
(or helping them on the sly). I figured I'd see the same thing here, just
more
so since the freeway would be busier.
         Mr. White nodded, serious, absolutely no tease in evidence. "Good.
Find Olsen, get out there, and bring me the story for this evening's
edition."
         I found, we got, and we brought, as instructed.
         Well, it wasn't anything like the pileup on the I-35 frontage road
west of Smallville. I'd like not to say anything more about it and just
refer
you, dear great-grandchildren, to the clippings I'll be putting in my
scrapbook. But I'm sure that a lot of the pictures Jimmy took will be too
graphic for publication, and I couldn't write about everything I saw because
it's not a topic the public wants to see spread across the front page of
their
evening newspaper. I don't want to tell you about how terribly violent the
cascading accident was, though the violence seems typical of this time and
place in which I'm living, unfortunately. I don't think you need to be told
about that. But I should tell you how this too-cocky reporter reacted to it.
         First, I found Jimmy easily. He was in the darkroom; I heard him in
there humming quietly to himself before I entered the light baffle. Upon
hearing he had an assignment, he dropped what he was doing (washing prints,
which he said anyone can do), grabbed what he needed (his vest full of
camera
parts and film canisters), and we rushed down to the parking garage and
hopped
on his motorcycle. He didn't have a spare helmet for me, but he said city
law
does not strictly require them for passengers - not that I'd be in *any*
danger. I told him not to worry; I trust his driving and I have a hard
head. He
drove swiftly and skillfully.
         As we approached the intersection of the elevated highway, we saw
that
traffic was backed up for at least a quarter of a mile because police cars
were
blocking the on ramps. Emergency response vehicles, vans topped with tiny TV
satellite dishes, and reporters in all-terrain vehicles were stuck and
couldn't
get through the gridlock. Police, Medivac and media helicopters whined
overhead. We parked out of the way in an alley and ran up the nearest on
ramp
toward the accident scene. We were stopped several times by police, but our
press credentials and, in one case, the officer recognizing Jimmy got us
through.
         I was in no way ready for what we found. This was not remotely like
the drunk driver from Wichita plowing into the back of a local Girl Scout
den
mother's station wagon, the sight of which caused the 70-year-old driver of
a
hay truck to swerve into a ditch to get out of the way.
         No, this was car, bus and truck parts, gasoline, oil, unknown
chemicals, and bits and pieces of people and their possessions all scattered
along hundreds of yards of the wide, westbound lanes of the freeway. It was
as
Mr. White warned: blood, gore, grief, surly police, indignant (frightened)
rubberneckers, and stressed-out emergency personnel. Before now, the most
stomach-turning scene I'd ever witnessed was in west Africa, when I came
across
an elephant that had been attacked and hacked at by poachers. Park guards
stopped them in the process and ran after them, hunting them down. The
elephant
died before I could figure out what to do to help him, but I think all he
wanted in the end was companionship and someone to tell his story (which I
did).
         This massive accident was magnitudes worse. I guess I've always
assumed that people will naturally take more care when they put themselves
in a
dangerous position (like traveling on a busy freeway), that they realize
life
is precious.... Why would anyone driving a convertible play chicken with an
oil
tanker truck?
         I think what bothered me most though was completely personal: there
wasn't anything I could do. What ifs came immediately to my mind as we
approached. What if somehow I had been on the scene before the accident
began
and foreseen what could happen? Would I have tried to stop it? What if I had
rushed out and pushed cars apart or taken over driving the convertible or
redirected the bus? Would I have sacrificed everything - including Mom's and
Dad's peaceful lives - to keep this horror from happening?
         Not being there to prevent the accident, what could I do now? I can
bend steel with my bare hands (I've done it a few times, mostly at home on
the
farm), and I'm sure I would have had no trouble prying cars apart, but then
what? It wasn't "could" I do it, but how to do it and what would the
repercussions be.
         I don't know, I just don't know.
         Well, I do know some of the repercussions: Mom and Dad could be
put in
danger. I also want to keep nurturing this hope I have of living a normal
life.
But if it were me all alone and something horrible was about to happen
before
my very eyes, I'd risk everything, even the dissection table, to help
people.
And, of course, the people who'd want to dissect me would have to catch me
first, wouldn't they?
         This morning, facing the carnage, all I could do was get quotes,
take
names, and, as the police were doing, try to figure out what had happened,
everything an objective reporter is supposed to do. And, I helped a little
on
the sly.
         I couldn't do much, certainly nothing that might be considered
extraordinary, since victims and emergency personnel were everywhere.
Fortunately, the latter were already doing a good, fast job, not leaving me
a
lot to do.
         I opened doors others might have found jammed, and I lifted things
that should have taken more than one person to tackle. I can do that kind of
thing easily, so I doubt anyone who saw me wondered.
         I helped a child and her mother out of their van and administered
emergency first aid. Trying to calm her, I stayed long enough to tell her
who I
was and that I work for the Planet. She explained what she thought had
happened; later it went into my story. The next car, an old Pinto, was hot
and
leaking gasoline and oil. I sighed at it, a hearty, discouraged expression
that
was actually, an icy breath over the area around the leak. This is the first
*good* use I've found for that ability (not that chilling beer cans isn't
helpful but it's not exactly something to brag about, either). Then I went
to
help the occupant. I thought he wasn't getting out on his own because he was
trapped; he had wedged his car under a semitruck. I was prepared to pull the
door off, but saw there wasn't reason to: the man behind the wheel had not
survived the impact. He must have died immediately, considering the
condition
of his body. I didn't stay to contemplate the dreadful sight.
         As Mr. White had warned, there was indeed a bus full of tourists
involved in the accident and much of the rescue effort was centered there. I
tried to assist but was ordered to stay back. I did so, until several
bloodied
tourists began crying out for help in a variety of languages. The more
common
ones - Spanish, Portuguese and French - the emergency personnel could take
care
of, but other representatives of the International Federation of School
Teachers were having trouble making themselves understood. This I
specifically
volunteered to help with. I was politely told to get lost, probably because
anyone could say what I had. But I persisted. I shouted some words of
comfort
in Japanese at a man who had blood in his eyes from a cut on his forehead.
He
thought he was blind and he was simply unable to cooperate.
         As he calmed, someone made the connection. I was ordered to stay
and
help by an off-duty police authority, Inspector Henderson. I didn't catch
his
first name; I have learned since that he doesn't seem to have one. He
happened
to witness the accident evolving as he was driving home. I introduced myself
during a lull when my facility with languages and my knowledge of first aid
(I
proved this by showing my Red Cross certification card) were not needed for
a
moment. He told me what he had seen, how he felt about it ("Appalled"), and
how
he had sprung into action. Then he said I could quote him except about the
springing. Some of what he told me is in my article. "Some" because Mr.
White
edited out other quotes which he said might get the Inspector in trouble if
he
were perceived as speaking for the Police Department.

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         Day 3, Thursday, May 5, PART (03/05)
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         RATING PG-13

         This was one of the brighter moments among the long stretches of
horror. Sixteen vehicles of all types and sizes were involved in the
accident.
Six people died on the scene, including the man I found and one whose car
had
been pushed over the side and fallen into an abandoned building. Two died on
the way to the nearest hospital and another two after their arrival.
Thirty-seven were injured, many critically. I got my hands bloody. It was
someone else's blood. Had it been my own - I would have been amazed, of
course
- but had it been my own, I think I might feel better about the tiny part I
played in the whole thing. Maybe I'd feel like I really gave something of
myself and I made a difference.
         A little after noon it began to rain. Slow at first, then harder
and
harder, in gusts, washing away the chemicals and the blood, damping down the
smoke and putting out any remaining sparks. It was as though the sky was
trying
to help people forget what had happened when instead they should see and
smell
and feel and *know* what had happened because of one careless act.
         But conveying all that is now up to the Planet, Jimmy and me (and
the
other media representatives on the scene).
         Jimmy found me taking shelter in a police van talking to several
officers who were not enjoying their jobs any more than I was enjoying mine
at
that moment. They told me they felt so helpless when this kind of accident
happens. They wished they could do more. I know exactly how they feel.
         Jimmy was wearing one of those plastic fold-up rain coats (he
didn't
have a spare one of those, either), so his equipment was safe and he looked
at
least 80 percent dry. I'm not worried about his health. He told me we had to
get back to the office *now* or miss deadline. I considered telling him to
go
ahead, I'd call something in, but two things stopped me. First, I wasn't
sure
of the call-in procedure, who I should talk to. Mr. White has since told me,
"Just call my office. I'll take the story or Pat" (our office manager) "will
get someone to. We need the facts and figures you gather and you'll get the
credit as the reporter." Second, there was no reason for me to stay: the
worst
was over, nearly all the victims had been taken away, and it was clean-up
time
now.
         So Jimmy and I jogged through the rain, heading for his
motorcycle. It
had not been disturbed, and the rain let up as we started back toward the
Planet. I used my body heat to dry most of my clothes so I arrived in the
newsroom in a fairly presentable state.  This didn't work for my shoes, and
they squished for quite a while after. When someone pointed out that I
looked
dry despite the rain, Jimmy said, "It's a wonder his hair's not slicked
straight back, as fast as I drove." He then rushed off for the darkroom and
I
headed for my desk.
         I tried to be polite and greet those who I passed, but my thoughts
were scattered. Even now I still see scenes of the accident clearly in my
mind.
Frankly, it was difficult to feel the thrill of being back in the place
where I
want to make my career, among the people who I think of as colleagues, doing
work that, at one time, I was sure I would enjoy every moment of. Too much
had
happened in too short a time, I guess, but I had to put all my feelings
aside
and concentrate on my job. I sequestered myself in my corner, pretended to
consult my soggy notes, and wrote like mad.
         It's been several hours since I turned in my story and I still feel
overwhelmed, but I believe I have some perspective on it now.
         First, I think everyone sensed that I was no longer a naive kid
from
Kansas who thinks he can write, enjoys quoting eloquent old ladies, and
indulges dotty, high-IQ could-be bombers. I think this is why I was given a
wide berth and a good quarter of an hour to calm down and start churning out
copy before my first visitor came by.
         Second, Cat, who was my first visitor, saw I was okay.  Well, okay
enough to do my job.
         She sat on my desk, in front of me, in what could have been a coy
move
had she come any closer. Instead I got the feeling she was simply trying to
distract me, to pull me out of my intense concentration on describing the
grief
and anguish I'd witnessed. Her voice was full of concern. "How are you
doing,
Clark?"
         "Oh... okay. I just have... this," what was scrolling down my
screen
and somehow making sense, "to write."
         "We watched live coverage." She smiled. "Every time someone thought
they caught sight of you or Jimmy, everyone cheered."
         That distracted me. "Live coverage? They cheered?"
         "Certainly we cheered. The Planet, first on the scene, covering the
news, that's always worth cheering about. As for watching you...." She
looked
me up and down as though she liked the idea and it didn't matter that I
looked
bedraggled now. "We have a TV on a rollaway stand over...." She turned away
and
looked toward the north end of the Pit. "Oh, you can't see it from here."
She
turned back. "Well, I look forward to reading what you write." She reached
forward, squeezed my shoulder, slipped off my desk, and continued on her
way.
         There was no hint of tease in her voice, no gotcha twinkle in her
eye,
no use of her obvious assets, only encouragement from one coworker to
another.
This attitude (though not the approach) was echoed at about five-minute
intervals as others came by to commend me for having jumped into an
assignment
they admitted they wouldn't have volunteered for or appreciated being
ordered
to take.
         I think now the primary reason for each visit was to see if I was
about to crack under the strain and if I needed support. Not finding me in
obvious dire straits, they expressed genuine admiration for what I had done.
That I could sense this (though not with such clarity yet) gave me a good
idea
of their estimation of me. But their confidence that I could overcome my
humble
rural upbringing and write the story helped renew some of my opinion of
myself.
         Of course, the final judge was Mr. White, who came by half an hour
after I started writing. He hadn't stopped by to see if I was babbling
insanely
to myself (I wasn't, I don't babble) and he had no words of encouragement.
"LAN
me what you have and come to my office so we can talk about it."
         I did as requested. I had worked through the draft twice already
and
was stuck. Either it was okay or it wasn't. I knew I needed some guidance
and
was mostly glad he came when he did. As I walked to his office, trailing
along
behind him, I tried not to notice that a lot of my colleagues were watching
me,
apprehensive looks on their faces.
         Mr. White shut the door behind us and made sure the shades were
closed. He pointed at a chair in front of his desk. "Sit," he said and took
his
own worn leather-covered chair behind his desk. He turned to his computer
and
as he pulled up my story, he looked at me and seemed to really see me. "You
got
caught in that rain, didn't you?"
         I looked down at myself. My jacket was unbuttoned, my tie loose, my
shirt stained. I did not present a very professional appearance. I looked up
and pushed my glasses back into place because they'd slipped down a tenth
of an
inch. I tend to fiddle with them when I'm nervous. "Yes, sir."
         He nodded. "Well, it happens. Did you get to Max's?"
         Huh? Oh, the tux shop. "No, sir, I was going to do that this
morning,
but then this..."
         "Okay. If you know your sizes, write them down on the pad there,"
he
indicated the front of his desk and a small pad of white paper in a wooden
box,
beside which was the nub of a pencil. "I'll call Max for you. You can see
him
tomorrow morning, after you've rested up."
         "Yes, sir." I do know my sizes, so I wrote them down, glad not to
have
to watch him as he pulled up my story on his computer.
         "Olsen's got some pictures already," he told me. "They look good,
but
he had it easy compared to what you had to do. He hid behind his camera
thinking of composition and lighting and balance."
         I looked up in time to see him raise his eyebrows and continue,
"There's nothing wrong with that. That's what a photographic journalist is
supposed to do, and he's becoming a fine one, just like I knew he would. But
you...."
         Me.
         "It was right in your face, you didn't have anywhere to hide."
         "No, sir." I probably should have left it at that, but even though
I
hardly know him and he scares me a little, I feel like I can talk to the
man,
almost like I talk to Dad. "I've never seen anything like it. I've been all
over the world and I thought I'd seen a lot, but that... that was..." which
is
where my voice trickled to nothing, like I didn't have the strength to
describe
what I felt. I was glad he had closed the shades.
         "It's one of those trial-by-fire stories, son. We all face them.
You
wanted to jump in there and help, didn't you?"
         In many more ways than one. I nodded.
         "But you were stuck because there was nothing you could do but
concentrate on getting the facts so you could tell the story while at the
same
time trying not to faint or lose your lunch. Or your breakfast."
         I nodded again, in complete agreement but afraid to say anything
because my voice might crack.
         "We did see you on TV, jumping in, helping people, but that's okay.
I
would've done the very same thing." He put on his reading glasses. "I've
done
the same thing." He turned to my story and began to read it. "You'll
probably
have the chance to do it again real soon."
         Much to my chagrin, he started making edits right away, but he
explained each one and I agreed with nearly all of them. Some were typos and
grammar mistakes I would have caught in a third read through, after a
moment of
stretching and a few deep breaths. He suggested coffee and asked if I had a
cup
yet. No, not yet.
         Other edits he made were prompted by errors in judgment and
letting my
emotions sneak into the piece. It's the kind of thing I had to watch for in
others while I was editing the Smallville Post.
         He also questioned some of the information I wrote into the story.
Some of it was simply inappropriate to include at this time and could be
saved
for a follow up, one either written by me or by one of the reporters
covering
the courthouse. Other information needed fleshing out with supporting facts,
for example about the maintenance history of the Crosstown, and he had
suggestions about how I might find and add that information.

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TITLE: My Journal
         Day 3, Thursday, May 5, PART (04/05)
         AUTHOR Debby Stark, Debby@swcp.com
         RATING PG-13

         While as I've mentioned he edited out some of Inspector Henderson's
comments, he was pleased I've met the man. "Henderson's the best man in the
MPD, if you ask me. He loves his job and respects his employers - the
people.
He won't tolerate incompetence, and he's skeptical of the fifth estate. It's
a
great combination. By the looks of this, though, he opened up a little with
you. You're smart. You listened. In the last few years he's only trusted two
other people on the staff of this newspaper. One of them's me, and the
other's...." He paused, sighed, and redirected his explanation. "Well, let's
just say I'm going to take advantage of his willingness to talk to you. I'm
going to cultivate it. This article will be the first step. But we'll move
very
carefully. He's not going to read anything in this story that will embarrass
him."
         I nodded. I understood. Mr. White was suggesting we cultivate
Inspector Henderson as a source. I won't be the farmer, Mr. White is the
farmer, and not the consumer, the paper's readers are that. I guess I'll be
the
conduit, the harvester perhaps. I do agree with his estimation of the
Inspector; while talking to him I was impressed by his integrity and quiet,
righteous anger about the circumstances of the accident. I look forward to
the
chance to talk to him again.
         Mr. White gave me twenty minutes to clear up the objections he had
to
my story. I was reassured by his thinking I could do it in that short a time
and he didn't have to give it to a more experienced reporter. I also
appreciate
his understanding of my struggle to come to terms with what I witnessed and
his
clear belief that in time, "really soon now," I can do so. He has faith in
me,
which means I should have faith in myself. I thanked him and threw myself
back
into my work with renewed vigor.
         I needed all the vigor I could muster. On the way back to my desk,
Eduardo called out, asking if I had anything on Dr. Platt. I told him I'd
give
him the notes I made this morning.
         Jimmy, his hands full of black and white proof sheets, almost ran
into
me on his way to Mr. White's office. A few seconds later he was on the run
again, this time aiming at me. "I'm starving. I'm going for burritos. Want
one?"
         His question made me realize I was hungry. I don't need to eat, of
course, but I like to. I enjoy flavors. I gave him five dollars, almost the
last of my money from my visit to a money machine last night, and I asked
him
to get me as many burritos as it would cover. By the time he returned, I had
looked up the information I was instructed to add to my story, worked it
into
the appropriate places, reread the whole thing and found a few more typos,
finally decided it was finished (this kind of decision used to be easy when
I
was working at the Post), and LANed it back to Mr. White.
         Jimmy watched this, an amused look on his face, handed me two big
chicken burritos "with extra green chile," sat down on a chair beside my
desk,
and we ate peacefully for about ten minutes. We didn't talk about anything
work
related. He told me that while his film was in the developing tank he had
called and confirmed he had the Metros tickets. He's had to get an extra
one as
a bribe to a friend so we can use the friend's car, "a big old black van.
You'll think you're going to a funeral." The friend will drive and they'll
pick
me up at seven. I'm to watch for that car and not be alarmed at what happens
when they pull up. "My friend's big, bigger than you, and built sort of like
a
bear. He'll get out and the first thing he'll do is try to hug you."
         Well, I like to hug, too, sometimes, so I can certainly accept that
form of greeting since I want to start meeting people and making friends
outside of work. "Your friend sounds like he could be a football
player...." We
talked about that and how Metropolis Magnums did this last winter (not well;
the Broncos creamed them in the playoffs).
         After lunch, I met with Eduardo and we talked about what I had
found
on Dr. Platt. The doctor's credentials are solid but his recent work
history is
erratic at best. His personal history is worse.  His wife kicked him out,
forcing him to move into an apartment, which, by his own description makes
my
place sound palatial.
         While Eduardo didn't discredit the man's warning entirely, he told
me
we had to balance it against EPRAD's solid reputation. Well, solid until
recently, because recently they've been having some minor problems with
finicky
computer programs, poorly manufactured parts, and unhappy unions. Eduardo
confided that he would be more surprised if something *didn't* happen to
scrub
tomorrow morning's launch, but he doesn't believe the Messenger will blow
up.
"More likely one of the ailerons will fall off."
         As for reinterviewing Dr. Platt, Eduardo didn't want me to attempt
that today. While it was true the scientist lived in a rundown part of town
and
I looked rundown and would fit right in.... He paused, obviously waiting
for my
reaction. I smiled a little. Finally, I felt like smiling. He smiled, too,
and
continued, concluding that it was late in the day and I shouldn't have to go
off on a wild goose chase after what I'd been through already.
         A visit to EPRAD's in-town offices was out since the place was no
doubt closed to reporters, the bulk of whom were concentrating on the launch
site anyhow. I would need to make an appointment (and again my current
appearance had to be taken into consideration). There was even less time to
visit the launch site in Future City. It's on the coast, four hours away by
car, three by train or six by plane if one factors in the inevitable airport
delays. Of course, I added mentally, it would take only minutes under my own
power even if I dawdle, fly low to avoid radar, and leap tall buildings.
         Furthermore, over the past couple of weeks none of Eduardo's
numerous
well-cultivated sources at all levels of the scientific community had
hinted at
anything resembling Dr. Platt's gloomy predictions.
         However, Eduardo said, "Big things have been slipped right under
their
noses in the past. The Gulf War Syndrome, the Face on Mars, global warming.
This story has been dropped right in our laps, and I'd *love* to be able to
confirm it, to run it on the front page and prevent what could be a major
setback in the Prometheus program. But frankly, all we have are the
rantings of
a..." he sighed, "a very unhappy man with an unstable history and this..."
he
patted Dr. Platt's notes, "opus, which doesn't make a great deal of sense."
         I understand that Eduardo majored in journalism and minored in
general
science. He was a science reporter for a big Chicago newspaper for ten years
and has been at the Planet for nearly another ten. I have no doubt that he
knows what he's talking about.
         So any objections I had better be worth his time. "His report to
Dr.
Baines might make more sense."
         "Yes, it should. If anything happens tomorrow - *anything* - I'll
have
you interview Platt again." He counted this on his first finger. On the
second:
"Get a copy of his report, and..." three, "talk to Dr. Baines and anyone
else
at EPRAD who is talking to the press."
         I told him I thought that was fair.
         He gave me a brief look which reminded me that what I thought was
fair
or unfair or anything doesn't count for much in this newsroom. It wasn't a
stern or mean expression but a mildly surprised reaction to my assumption.
Was
he mistaken or had I been on the job less than three days? Did I think my
agreement mattered? If I did, I was giving myself a bit more credit than I
had
earned so far.
         This was what the bottom of his shoe looked like, but I had put
myself
in the position to see it.
         I sat back and didn't offer any more unasked for opinions. I'm
absolutely sure he has appreciated my work thus far, but since he's
ultimately
responsible for the coverage of this fast-moving story, if I don't act like
a
member of his team, he can't use me.
         However, I didn't want to impress him as being spineless, either.
Since I didn't know anything about EPRAD other than what the general public
learns every time they sponsor a space shot, I suggested I use the rest of
the
day, somewhat over an hour, reading up on the agency.
         He okayed this, his voice neutral.
         My glory days, or minutes, as the heroic reporter who risked his
sanity to cover the accident on the Interstate were already fading fast. I
crept back to my desk and began a new line of research.
         On the way back, I overheard him mutter to Pat, "You know, he
reminds
me of her...." Then he asked her, Pat, if the TV would be out for the launch
tomorrow.
         I can't say for sure who the first "her" is, but I have a very
strong
suspicion. After I finish this Dr. Platt story, whenever that is, I'm going
to
do a little research on Lois Lane.
         The Planet's archives are legendary among journalists. I first
heard
mention of them when I worked at the Alibi when I was at the university. My
colleagues there dreamed of breaking into the vault they figured the Planet
has
- "it probably requires cubic *miles* of space under Metropolis" - and
discovering all the secrets hidden therein. There had to be stories too
terrifying to release to the public. Theories about this failure to publish
went two ways: the Planet was either a tool of The Vast Right-Wing
Conspiracy
which was hiding horrible misdeeds, or that same Conspiracy was so big even
the
Planet couldn't fight it. I always tried to stay neutral in such arguments.
I
don't think there are any big conspiracies in life, and I've always found
the
Daily Planet to have an informative if moderate approach to events of the
day.

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         Day 3, Thursday, May 5, PART (05/05)
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         There are not "square miles of space" largely because over the last
twenty years many of the archived stories from the paper's 219-year history
have been scanned and archived in the computers. Interestingly, the archives
not only contain the stories the Planet has published, but a great deal of
the
unpublished research material gathered by reporters, stringers, clerks and
photographers. So the archives, both online (in-house and out on the net)
and
in the minimorgue and the bigger morgue in the bi-level basement, are a
virtual
gold mine.
         This is where I went to read up on the history of EPRAD and where I
discovered more about its current troubles than the media (including the
Planet) has published. I don't think this proves a conspiracy though; I
think
it proves the Planet is cautious and won't print information without proof
to
back it up.
         From there I branched out to look at the agency's competitors, for
while EPRAD has a great deal of government support, in recent years those
dispensing budget moneys for space exploration have been looking at other
vendors.
         Surprise! Luthor Scientific is probably EPRAD's biggest competitor,
with European and Southeast Asian conglomerates distant interested parties.
It
does truly seem that Lex Luthor is everywhere, doesn't it? I should add him
to
my list of people to research in my off time. Two "LL" people. Is that rare
or
what?
         Almost four years ago, Luthor Scientific made a two-day
presentation
before a joint Congressional committee. Unpublished rumor has it that Luthor
suggested the entire committee and all its staff fly to a private Caribbean
island retreat for the meeting, but the offer was "overlooked." (Acceptance
of
it would probably have been totally unethical and maybe illegal anyhow.) LS
proposed the creation of a string of space stations to service Luthor
International's planned half-dozen (to begin with) zero-gravity
manufacturing
facilities. These would construct devices used to mine the moon, and, within
ten years, launch ships destined to map, explore, develop and terraform Mars
and Venus.
         Nationwide, editorial opinions and letter columns indicated that
the
idea fired the imagination like nothing else in the last fifty years. I
recall
hearing mention of it while I was in India - "Thousands of people may soon
live
and work in space" - but those in the ashram I was visiting favored spending
the money to solve Earth-bound problems. In the end, it turns out the bulk
of
the joint committee members were terrified at the cost of the first phase of
the project, some $40 billion.
         The idea that the first space station would have been named after
Lex
Luthor, even though he was prepared to contribute $2 billion up front, is
enough to turn me off.
         EPRAD International's proposal was less grandiose. There were no
provisions for lunar mining or exploring other planets. The plan
concentrated
on developing near-Earth-orbiting colonies. It included participation by
members of the world scientific community (Luthor Scientific wanted complete
control of all phases of personnel selection); present and retired
astronauts
(LS could not attract the more altruistic among that league of heroes); and
manufacturing facilities around the world (LS has those, too, but they're
commonly known as sweat shops). Finally, EPRAD's plan envisioned some
monetary
support from the Congress of Nations. The CoN is known for throwing its
weight
behind activities that encourage the pursuit of peaceful goals that benefit
everyone.
         Not surprisingly, the US Congress bought into the cheaper idea.
         I was searching for any indication of Lex Luthor's reaction to this
-
a statement, an interview, a new proposal to assist the EPRAD/CoN liaison,
anything - when I noticed the time and realized I had to get home and get
ready
for the game this evening. While this brief but steady diet of research had
calmed me considerably, I was still looking forward to getting out and doing
something totally different. The last big sporting event I went to was a
soccer
game in the Estadio Azteca in Mexico City almost a year ago, so it's been
way
too long.
         I'm home now. Everything looks just like it did when I left this
morning. Maybe I imagined the disks were moved yesterday. A heavy truck
could
have passed by and rattled this old building. And the phone? It's probably
more
innocent than I am. I should be happy it manages to stay connected long
enough
for me to get on and off line in one piece.
         Looking forward to a good game sure raises one's spirits!
         I showered and took a few moments to examine my jacket and slacks.
The
stains don't look bad but I'll get Mom's verdict tomorrow. I don't think
she'll
be optimistic. Maybe I can purchase some suits from that Max fellow and
he'll
hold my check.
         Note to self: things to do -

                  1) Open savings/checking accounts.
                  2) Personnel says Planet has credit union; check out.
                  3) Ask Max if I can pay off suits over time.
                  4) Check out wash-and-wear business suits in Taiwan or
                           Hong Kong.

         I do need this night out, don't I?
         I've been typing like crazy for the past 20 minutes, pausing only
to
put pasta in the water boiling in the saucepan on the hot plate. Spaghetti
again. I'll give this a read through, correct it, encrypt and compress it,
sign
on, upload it, grab my email, sign off, and read as I eat dinner. I'll tell
you, dear great-grandchildren, how the game goes tomorrow and I'll put
clippings about it in the scrapbook. Focus on them and not the accident, and
know I'll be having a lot more fun at the game than I had on the freeway
this
morning.

[to be continued]

[Your real author thanks my proofers and creative consultants Pat H., Jeanne
P., Sandy McD., and Steve H.]
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TITLE: My Journal
         Day 3, Thursday, May 5
         AUTHOR Debby Stark, Debby@swcp.com
         RATING PG-13 (some unsavory scenes from real life described
briefly)
         FEEDBACK Comments welcome in all forums
         No Editing please (though you can fix typos)
         No attachments come with this installment

         SUMMARY  Read Days 1 and 2 before Day 3. Clark Kent's adventures in
Metropolis continue. All portions of this story are or will be available on
my
site, ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark/Stories/MyJournal

         ...and that's about all I have to say :) The versions (a Word97 doc
and a Rich Text Format) on my site will have bolding, italics, etc.  No
attachments though, not this time. Attachments (art) come with upcoming
"days"

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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Once again I come out of hiding to make a comment.

Yesterday I took the SAT's and in the verbal section I ran across a couple
things that I first heard about through Lois & Clark.  They were viginettes
and a concordance (I think I spelled that right).  Because I didn't know
what a concordance was when I first saw it on Zoomway's site, I looked it
up.  After talking to a couple of my friends who also took the test they
said they had no idea what that meant. I had to grin.

I recall one fic I read, I think it might have been a round robin where
Mxyspitlk put Lois and Clark in television shows.  The one representation of
"Classic" Silk (the eps. with Rita and Chris) was sort of off base.  About
the middle of the second season she got away from the vice type clothing and
into pants suits.  What was the title of that fic?

Sam Marie Kegan

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Myxed Signals, Sam. One of my own favorites. <g.

LabRat

>
>I recall one fic I read, I think it might have been a round robin where
>Mxyspitlk put Lois and Clark in television shows.  The one representation
of
>"Classic" Silk (the eps. with Rita and Chris) was sort of off base.  About
>the middle of the second season she got away from the vice type clothing
and
>into pants suits.  What was the title of that fic?
>
>Sam Marie Kegan
>
>
>
>
>"I now return from whence I came/to the dark hearts of men where fear
>resides." SMK
>
>
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Subject:      Re: [LoisandClarkNAOS] FANZINE ALERT: THE MANY WORLDS OF LOIS
AND
              CLARK
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Eileen

So glad you are still running with this project, it all went quiet for a
while....

My part is to offer to collect cheques/land addresses from UK FoLCs - If
anyone would like to cut the cost of =A3/$ conversion,  I will convert in a
single currency transfer and sent on to Eileen at the Washington address
given in the announcement. =20

I will be in US (taking in Cabaret in the Windy City en route) between June
28 and July 14, but if you would like to forward donations to.......

Jenny Mills
1 Roseville Close
Norwich
Norfolk
NR1 1UX

I will collect them together (with my own, of course) and send on to Eileen
by July 19.

I an copying this to the UKList tomorrow morning (access is on my work PC!!)

At 07:13 06/06/99 -0400, you wrote:
>From: Eraygun@aol.com
>
>
>FANZINE ALERT: THE MANY WORLDS OF LOIS AND CLARK
>
>Calm down everyone I have the listmom's permission to make this=
 announcement=20
>:). So put away that kryptonite away and set those phasers on stun <eg>.
>
>What is a Fanzine?
>
>A fanzine is a collection of fan created short stories, in which the=
 writers=20
>expand upon themes and ideas involving their favorite fictional characters=
=20
>and in some cases create an alternate perspective or history for them.
This=
=20
>particular fanzine is about our favorite Super Couple, and it raises the=20
>question of "What would happen if ...? hence the title."
>
>What is it for?
>
>One of the originators of the Round Robin fanfic channel (Doris Schmill)=
 has=20
>been affected with a disease that  causes progressive vision loss. In
order=
=20
>to assist her in continuing to write, her fellow writers decided to have a=
=20
>fund raiser for her. Those individuals wishing to donate at least $25
dollars=20
>($25.00) will receive a fanzine as a gift. The money we raise will be used
to=20
>offset the cost of the equipment that will allow her to write, and to=
 access=20
>her friends on the IRC once again. Any excess money raised will be donated
to=20
>Christopher Reeve's charitable foundation.
>
>Who are some of the authors?
>
>We have one dozen original stories written by such Kerth award winning=20
>authors as Chris Mulder, Zoomway, Sheila Harper, and Erin Klingler, as
well=
=20
>as the IRC round robin group.  These stories will not be available
anywhere=
=20
>else for at least a year.
>
>How can I get one?
>
>For FOLCs in the U.S.: Send your donation of at least $25 (more is always=
=20
>welcome to help offset some of the costs of reproducing the fanzine <g>),=
 to=20
>R.E. Ray, P.O. BOX 45063, Washington DC, 20026-5063. Checks and money=
 orders=20
>are preferable and should be made payable to R.E. Ray.  You *must* include=
=20
>your name and mailing address so that you can receive your gift fanzine.
>
>For EuroFOLCs: Contact Nicky at NKWolke@t-online.de to coordinate how to=
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>can donate to minimize the monetary exchange costs. I will still need your=
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>names and addresses to mail your gift once you have made your donation.
>
>For FOLCs in other parts of the world: Email me at Eraygun@gmx.net. And
we'll=20
>try and figure out the best course of action ;).
>
>Anything else I should know?
>
>Because real life and work have a nasty habit of getting in the way we can=
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>YOUR DONATIONS IN BY: July 19, 1999!
>
>If you have any questions please email me at Eraygun@gmx.net. Thanks again=
=20
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>
>Cheers,
>Eileen
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JO: Looks like it's rush hour on the Super Information Highway.
LL: Yes, and I'm stuck in traffic                                       -
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Debby, I'm delighted with this story, as with all your writing.  Your
portrait of the young, eager Clark Kent is irresistible and ...

*Spoiler:
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*
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*
*
*
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*
... I love the mystery surrounding the absent Lois.  I'll add my voice, too,
to
those who like a Cat who shows greater depth than exhibited on the show.

I have a comment on the following:
>>>>
"...A lot of seasoned reporters think they have to drink the blackest coffee
made. I guess it puts hair on their chests..."
...

"But if you don't want to drink any, you don't have to."

No, I better drink it; maybe he wasn't kidding about the hair-on-the-chest
side effect. <<<<

Debby, I'm so glad you mentioned this, since Clark's condition has been
worrying me for quite some time.   I'm pleased that you noticed it, too,
and that you've suggested a remedy.

I thought at first that Clark's hairless state was
peculiar to Kryptonians, but I've noticed that other television
characters suffer from the same malady -- Captain Kirk, for example.  I
don't know if he's ever tried black coffee.

Here's hoping the coffee will help.

Thanks for the great story--I'm looking forward to the next installments!

Peggy  :-)
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Debby,

S
O
I
L
E
R

S
P
A
C
E

Can you have a word with young Mr Kent, and ask him to explain the frog
metaphor - he's driving me bananas! <bg>.

Seriously, I love the way you've introduced this 'Clark-speak' into the
journal - makes him seem even more of a real person than he already is.

Yvonne
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(was...
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In a message dated 6/6/99 6:38:36 AM Central Daylight Time, Debby@SWCP.COM
writes:

<< She also had normal relaxing in clothing (that sweat shirt, for example).
She
 ate healthy foods like bananas and obviously took care of her health. I
 suspect
 she dressed unusually (to our eyes) because it was expected of her as the
 gossip columnist, a job she was very good at. >>

The sweat suit ensemble was what Cat hoped would work better with Clark ("a
little taste of home") since her usual outfits failed miserably with him.
Her
wardrobe was just one more part of her male assault arsenal, and it was a
well stocked arsenal. When she wanted to bag the billionaire Arthur Chow,
she
researched him and felt a very conservative look would work the best and so
dressed accordingly.. She was a wolf in sheep's clothing, to borrow a
phrase.
It was a temporary external change only. Unfortunately, it turned out Chow
would have likely gone for her usual tacky look ;) It's also apparent from
that episode that her tacky look was the one she was accustomed to and it
had
little to do with her job as gossip columnist. She stripped off her "sheep's
clothing" at one point, not being able to stand the confinement of it
anymore, and asked how women like Lois could stand to wear that kind of
outfit.

Also, a nice selection of books doesn't necessarily mean the person reads
them. Then again, to be fair, maybe the word "tsunami" didn't exist in her
entire library, and she reached the riper side of her thirties without ever
hearing it either. Besides, one wonders how Cat found time to read since she
was so familiar with the Lexor honeymoon suite she knew where all the
gadgets
were, how they worked and had her name scratched into the furniture. She
also
kept hot lingerie in her desk at work for crying out loud <g>

While Lois Lane, on the other hand, was not beyond dressing in whatever
manner necessary to get the story she was after, and such outfits could
range
>from a chicken costume to an Army uniform, they were all a means to an end
as
they related to her profession. Cat's usual wardrobe was a "means to an end"
as well, it's just that the "end"...was a very different one ;)  Cat was
certainly non-apologetic about her lifestyle and taste, which included a
nude
statue of a "perky" male that Clark felt compelled to cover up, and so I
won't apologize for Cat either <g> I think, for the most part, Cat liked
herself and her lifestyle and those who didn't could just take a flying leap
as far as she was concerned.

Keep in mind that we're talking about a woman who was *not* sprayed with
Miranda's pheromone concoction and yet boffed the copying machine repairman
who she'd only just met. She took a man whose name escaped her (he had to
remind her), to the Daily Planet for an after hours tryst. So, while there
may have been deeper facets to Cat Grant, I am still left wondering how she
had the time or energy to exploit and explore them.

Zoomway@aol.com ("Doesn't "we" (oui) mean "yes" in French?"  "Not in
Smallville." ;)
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At 09:29 AM 06/06/99 EDT, PJ Piasecki wrote:
>In a message dated 6/5/99 12:28:04 PM CST, ccsupec@HELEN.OIT.GATECH.EDU
>writes:
>
><<  (I was in grade school at the time and was even told that all nine
> books based on the movies had been published.  By, was I dying to get my
> hands on those!  Funny how they never could be located ...)   >>
>
>I was working in a B.Dalton's Bookseller at the time and I remember a guy
>coming in, looking for the complete Star Wars.  He *insisted* that it was
out
>in one large volume, containing all 9 stories, and that a friend of his had
>it!  This is how rumors are perpetuated. <g>
>
>Piper

And you never found out who this friend was and where he got his 9 story
volume?

BTW, who here remembers Splinter of the Mind's Eye by Alan Dean Foster?
(I'd love to get another copy of it, as mine went missing many moons ago.)

Jen
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--- Jenny Stosser <jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU> wrote:
> At 09:29 AM 06/06/99 EDT, PJ Piasecki wrote:
> >In a message dated 6/5/99 12:28:04 PM CST,
> ccsupec@HELEN.OIT.GATECH.EDU
> >writes:
> >
> ><<  (I was in grade school at the time and was even
> told that all nine
> > books based on the movies had been published.  By,
> was I dying to get my
> > hands on those!  Funny how they never could be
> located ...)   >>
> >
> >I was working in a B.Dalton's Bookseller at the
> time and I remember a guy
> >coming in, looking for the complete Star Wars.  He
> *insisted* that it was out
> >in one large volume, containing all 9 stories, and
> that a friend of his had
> >it!  This is how rumors are perpetuated. <g>
> >
> >Piper
>
> And you never found out who this friend was and
> where he got his 9 story
> volume?
>
> BTW, who here remembers Splinter of the Mind's Eye
> by Alan Dean Foster?
> (I'd love to get another copy of it, as mine went
> missing many moons ago.)
>
> Jen

Hey Jen,

That was a great story.  I don't remember it terribly well and I sold
my copy at a used bookstore many years ago.  Oh well.  Wish I had kept
it as Alan Dean Foster remains one of my favourite authors.

Irene
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Hey FoLC! :o)

This is your resident fanfic groupie checking in <g>
and today I have announcement to make!

can you ~~~feel the excitement~~~~!?!?!?!!?

Reliable sources have informed me that
When Separate Worlds Collide Book 2 is coming
soon to a mail box near you....hence this is the
*perfect* time to remind anyone who may have missed
Book 1 to head for the Archive and meet Dr. Karen
Waren, find out exactly what happened to
Mindy Church, who Alternate Jimmy married, and
whether Alt Lois has cooking skills or burns
popcorn as well as her Our World counterpart <g>

You may find this waffy story here:

http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/stories2/whensep1.txt

It's lovely light summer reading for a happy day...
I of course, read it in a bus on the way to the airport
since as you all know, I use Fanfic as a Natural form
of Stress Relief <g>

Now I must warn you, I have ulterior motives
in recommending this story, you see,
Book 2, currently in Post Production ;o)
is just jam packed with happy surprises...it also
has drama, tension, subliminal messages, and
well, I'll let Mandy tell you about the rest!

Book 2 is also a truly stunning example
of the wonders that occur when you
write to your fan fic authors
and babble ...truly *stunning* ;o)

Maggie

disclaimer:
This has been an unpaid
a-political announcement
courtesy of:
The Kerth Groupie Committee,
Waffy Stories Section

maggie13@bellsouth.net  (aka supermags on IRC)
My rationale is that there are people starving all over the world,
so I don't bother to waste food by attempting to prepare it.
 And the world thanks me for that!
--My friend Margaret on Cooking :o)
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 14:02:57 -0700
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From:         "Irene D." <sirenegold@YAHOO.COM>
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I'm not sure if this question has been asked before, but does anyone
know if middle names are ever mentioned for either Martha Kent or Ellen
Lane.

Alternatively, are there middle names that have been mentioned
consistently in fanfics for these two characters?

All help is very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Irene
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:17:46 +0100
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Yeah, I know - this is personal and if I had Jen's eddress I'd be mailing to
her. *But* delete happy here, did it again. (I'm going to sellotape that key
down and then go talk to Friskin about my compulsive desire to see empty
folders in my mailer and how deeply it disturbs my psyche when they're not.)

Soooo, Jen - I still have a mint copy paperback edition of SOTME and since
SW isn't that important to me by this point and I'm never going to take it
off the shelf it hasn't moved from in the past 15 years...mail me your
address and you can have it gratis.

LabRat :)  (knowing what it's like to lose a favorite and who just
discovered her dog-eared copy of Watership Down has vanished who knows
where...)

Doc. Klein's LabRat
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 17:52:50 EDT
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From:         Annette Ciotola <AMCiotola@AOL.COM>
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Hey Gang,

A web page has been put together with all the information you'll need, plus
it has the added bonus of a couple of previews :)

Check it out at:
http://members.aol.com/amciotola/fanzine.htm

Feel free to link to any page ...

Anne :)
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In a message dated 6/6/99 12:13:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
yconnell@UKF.NET
writes:

<< Can you have a word with young Mr Kent, and ask him to explain the frog
 metaphor - he's driving me bananas! <bg>.
  >>
As no one else has addressed this, I volunteer!  :
I believe the frog metaphor is referring to Pa Kents warning, that Clark is
so obviously used to that he chimes in, (in the first episode) that Clark
needs to be careful because if anyone discovered his abilities he would be
locked up and dissected like a frog.
Kate (the Maryland one)
back to lurk mode...
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:26:44 EDT
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yes! cat was just slutish, while Lois was the real cool smart sexy one. the
one that deserved the perfect man like clark
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 19:32:31 -0600
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Review of Little Man, Super
a story by
         Sandy McDermin
         smcdermin@erols.com
         http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/

I laughed, I cried... mostly I laughed.  Actually, I had a headache and I
needed something to distract me out of it. Sometimes concentrating on
something
(like work, blah), can distract me out of feeling bad. Since I'm at home and
it's Sunday, I chose to distract myself with Sandy "Little Man, Super."

And I'm glad I did! It's long--and worth every word--and, best of all, my
headache's gone :D

I liked the many, many details: peas; Perry's wallet and his pleasure at
sharing its contents with the children; what the kids were wearing, how they
argued and called each other names, and how they ignored every warning their
parents had given them about doing certain things; Clark talking to the
sports
section (though Lois didn't have a similar pastime that I recall... too busy
being a mom?); phrases like "No one would call Superman to save them from
big
city living.  They wore it like a badge of honor" and so many more little
things that made the story come to life. Everything struck me as being
totally
authentic - as though Sandy had spied on this family like Fosse observing
Gorillas (but with better luck when it comes to dealing with humans) and she
took extensive notes. I hope she has lots more notes to turn into reports on
what the Kents are up to.

Everything about this story was fun to read. I'm glad the not too scary A
plot,
worked into the main story, gave us a look at L&C's investigative skills.

They story centers around young Jonny Kent's attempts to come to terms with
problems he can't identify. This struggle was told in a poignant yet
amusing,
immensely interesting manner. I cheered for him every step of the way... and
want to read more stories about him and his family. Lois's and Clark's
innermost thoughts, particularly Clark's near the end, were revealing and
right
on.

Also, I enjoyed every word of every description of Clark physical
appearance ;)
I agree entirely with FP.

Drawbacks? Hmm... I would have added a comma, closed a quote and broken a
paragraph here and there, but those are about the only gripes I have.
Nothing
serious or that detracted from my reading pleasure

Rating: *****, 5 out 5, A+

I strongly recommend this story as a sample of fine writing and finer
storytelling.

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:49:07 EDT
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Sorry to be pushy...no, not sorry...anxious maybe?  ;) Anyway, when is the
next S6 episode? The site said it was due out today, but I don't recall
seeing a promo for it yet. I've enjoyed your work so much thus far, and
there
were people on the IRC "whimpering" (that was Missy...honest ;) wondering
when the new story would be out. What's the good word? ;)

Zoomway@aol.com (I didn't whimper...really, wasn't me ;)
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In a message dated 6/6/99 9:50:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Zoomway@AOL.COM
writes:

<< Zoomway@aol.com (I didn't whimper...really, wasn't me ;) >>

I have proof!!

<Missytoo> Crys, the web page says "June 6"

<zoomway> it's not like I'm anxious...er...no, not at all...<looks at
calendar...whimper> <g>
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From:         SuperMom <no1supermom@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Next Season6 Episode

According to the schedule on the Season 6 website, the next episode was due
out today.  It was the last part of the bodyswitching.  Has anyone heard
anything?  Is it behind schedule?  I'm waiting anxiously to see what else
Clark experiences during his time as a woman!
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Let me step up and second that motion Debby!
this was a truly lovely wonderful story!
Sandy creates her own little Universe for the Kents
and it's just a great place to go, hang out
and have some tea.

I wholeheartedly hope there are more installments
to these adventures <subtle hint> ;o)

Thanks Sandy! and thanks Debby for a great
re-visit to this story!

Maggie
on exclamation point overload today! <--see? <g>

maggie13@bellsouth.net  (aka supermags on IRC)
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--My friend Margaret on Cooking :o)
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 21:33:51 -0500
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At 09:49 PM 6/6/99 EDT, The Zoomway wrote:
>Sorry to be pushy...no, not sorry...anxious maybe?  ;) Anyway, when is the
>next S6 episode? The site said it was due out today, but I don't recall
>seeing a promo for it yet. I've enjoyed your work so much thus far, and
there
>were people on the IRC "whimpering" (that was Missy...honest ;) wondering
>when the new story would be out. What's the good word? ;)
>
>Zoomway@aol.com (I didn't whimper...really, wasn't me ;)
>

Sorry about the confusion, folcs.  It's just me being my usual pokey self.
The site correctly (as of 10 days ago) states today as the air date, but I
wasn't done, so I asked (read: "begged") to have the air date moved back one
week.  In fact, I just typed "The End" Friday morning at 8:30 and no one had
seen it yet, so it's been with editors all weekend while I've been out of
town.  I just got back, and I'm starting work on the corrections/changes.
The promo will be out Tuesday, and the last part of my trilogy, "Mirror,
Mirror," will air no later than next Sunday.  I'm glad you enjoyed it enough
to ask after it.

Sheila
(man, I just did a word count on the whole thing, and it's 55,000 words,
which is the length of a category romance novel--between half again and
twice as long as the Friedman L&C novels)

sharper@cncc.cc.co.us
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Date:         Sun, 6 Jun 1999 22:42:56 EDT
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In a message dated 6/6/99 9:34:14 PM Central Daylight Time,
sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes:

<<  yet, so it's been with editors all weekend while I've been out of
 town.  I just got back, and I'm starting work on the corrections/changes.
 The promo will be out Tuesday, and the last part of my trilogy, "Mirror,
 Mirror," will air no later than next Sunday.  I'm glad you enjoyed it
enough
 to ask after it. >>

Well, Sheila, your stories are always worth waiting for ;) I'm definitely
looking forward to it. Besides, we sure had more than our share of promos
that said "In *two* weeks on Lois and Clark", so it's ...traditional <g>
Thanks for the answer, a lot of Folc are waiting.

As for Perm gal, who ratted on me:

>>>I have proof!!

<Missytoo> Crys, the web page says "June 6"

<zoomway> it's not like I'm anxious...er...no, not at all...<looks at
calendar...whimper> <g><<<<

Zoomway@aol.com (Memo to self: kill perm gal later ;)
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From:         Mandy Crustner <mandyc@LCC.NET>
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<snip>

> Reliable sources have informed me that
> When Separate Worlds Collide Book 2 is coming
> soon to a mail box near you....

Hehe, well, I *hope* (emphasis on the keyword *hope*) that it'll be coming
soon.  It's currently with numerous editors/beta-readers (Hi, Debra, Phil
<who's just sent me the last part that he's looked over>, Vicki and Irene!)
and I've just recently started going through some of the comments I've
already received.  So, I've gotta go through and do some minor tweeking and
hopefully it'll be hitting the list and subsequently the archive by at least
the first of July.  I'm really ready to get through with it, since I've
already started on Book 3 and really wanna turn my attention to it, not to
mention the other fanfics I have in the works, "One Night With You" and
"Convenient Relations."

>hence this is the
> *perfect* time to remind anyone who may have missed
> Book 1 to head for the Archive and meet Dr. Karen
> Waren, find out exactly what happened to
> Mindy Church, who Alternate Jimmy married, and
> whether Alt Lois has cooking skills or burns
> popcorn as well as her Our World counterpart <g>

I must jump in here and say that I've done some interesting things with the
characters and this is just the beginning.  You'll be running into lots of
old familiar characters in my universe and those characters will be taking
lots of new and hopefully intersting twists.

> You may find this waffy story here:
>
> http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/stories2/whensep1.txt
>
> It's lovely light summer reading for a happy day...
> I of course, read it in a bus on the way to the airport
> since as you all know, I use Fanfic as a Natural form
> of Stress Relief <g>

I'm honored to have been one of the authors you used for Stress Relief. :)
I'm just glad you didn't consider it a waste of your time <g>

> Now I must warn you, I have ulterior motives
> in recommending this story, you see,
> Book 2, currently in Post Production ;o)
> is just jam packed with happy surprises...it also
> has drama, tension, subliminal messages, and
> well, I'll let Mandy tell you about the rest!
> Book 2 is also a truly stunning example
> of the wonders that occur when you
> write to your fan fic authors
> and babble ...truly *stunning* ;o)

I must say that I've had quite a bit of fun 'including' Maggie in my Lois
and Clark universe, just as I had with 'including' Karen Ward.  I'll be
doing a lot more of that in future books. :)  Anyone wanting a character
named after them in one of my stories, just give me a holler, I'm sure we
can work something out <g>.  Now, I'll just leave the rest to your
imagination, so as not to spoil too much of the story.  You all will be the
first to know as soon as it's ready for perusal :)

> Maggie
>
> disclaimer:
> This has been an unpaid
> a-political announcement
> courtesy of:
> The Kerth Groupie Committee,
> Waffy Stories Section

We'll talk about that check I promised you later, Mags <bg>

Mandy :)
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I recently read a fanfic based in the Alt Dimension where parties both
good and bad (including Tempus) came back in time to stop Clark from
rescuing Lois from her fate in the Congo.  I don't know the title or
author, but I don't think it's part of the Archive.  I didn't bookmark
the site I found the story on, or if I did my massive number of fanfic
bookmarks is managing to hinder me from finding it on my own.

Does anyone know the story I've described and where I can find it?
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Date:         Mon, 7 Jun 1999 00:27:43 EDT
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In a message dated 6/6/99 11:23:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
as4901a@american.edu writes:

<< Since the other list [ loiscla@vm.ege.edu.tr ] is dead now, I was
wondering if someone could point me in the right direction for the new one.
I did get the notice about the creation of the new list, but it seems like
I've been best friends with my delete button lately, so unfortunately I've
lost the address and means to subscribe to the new list. >>

Go here: http://www.actwd.com/zoomway/lnc_elist.htm

For a direct link to join the new list. If you have any problem joining, let
me know.

Zoomway@aol.com
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In a message dated 6/6/99 11:28:11 PM EST, Zoomway@AOL.COM writes:

<< << Since the other list [ loiscla@vm.ege.edu.tr ] is dead now, I was
 wondering if someone could point me in the right direction for the new one.
 I did get the notice about the creation of the new list, but it seems like
 I've been best friends with my delete button lately, so unfortunately I've
 lost the address and means to subscribe to the new list. >>

 Go here: http://www.actwd.com/zoomway/lnc_elist.htm

 For a direct link to join the new list. If you have any problem joining,
let
 me know.

 Zoomway@aol.com >>

Hey FoLCs,

So ... just curious ... maybe I missed something <g> ... but does this mean
that it is *absolutely* *positively* *official* that LOISCLA is dead,
buried,
gone and never ever coming back???  Zoom?  No word from TREARN either way?
If so, I'll have to have a brief memorial service.  That list has meant a
lot
to me over the last 4 years that I have been an online FoLC, and I can't
help
but be sentimental if it really is gone for good.  ;)  Still, I know that
the
spirit of the list will live on and that a dead list can never destroy to
power or the heart of FoLCdom!  Okay, I'm going back to lurking now, on BOTH
lists ... since I just subscribed to the new one also.  <bg>

Take care!  =o)
Genine
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Cindy wrote:

>I recently read a fanfic based in the Alt Dimension where parties both
>good and bad (including Tempus) came back in time to stop Clark from
>rescuing Lois from her fate in the Congo.  I don't know the title or
>author, but I don't think it's part of the Archive.  I didn't bookmark
>the site I found the story on, or if I did my massive number of fanfic
>bookmarks is managing to hinder me from finding it on my own.
>
>Does anyone know the story I've described and where I can find it?

Gee, Cindy, that could cover a lot of fanfic! <g> But, having checked my
trusty fanfic index, I think the following might be a likely candidate:

TWO, EACH THEIR OWN - 'Mercury'
Set after TEMPUS, ANYONE?, the Alternate Clark travels back in time to the
Congo to rescue his Lois and finds himself in the middle of Tempus and
warring factions from the future, each trying to seize control of the past
and time.

Where to find it though if it's not on the Archive, I dunno. Anyone? I read
this one a looonnnggg time back. Anyway, hope it gets you a little further
along to finding, Cindy.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
labrat@ukf.net

"What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I
definitely overpaid for my carpet." -- Woody Allen, Without Feathers, 1976.

"I won't eat anything that has intelligent life but I would gladly eat a
network executive or politician." - Marty Feldman.
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Kate,

This is Shannon Rouse.  I requested a copy of the book of comics that
inspired Lois and Clark, but unfortunately due to some unexpected car
problems, I am not going to be able to purchase the book from you.  I am
sorry to have to do this to you, but with moving next week, I need to
fix my car right away and it is going to cost more than I want to think
about.  :-{

Thank you anyway about the offer and I hope you can get it sold to
someone else.  Sorry again!

Shannon
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In a message dated 6/7/99 12:34:24 AM Central Daylight Time,
SuperGem4@AOL.COM writes:

<< So ... just curious ... maybe I missed something <g> ... but does this
mean
 that it is *absolutely* *positively* *official* that LOISCLA is dead,
buried,
 gone and never ever coming back???  Zoom?  No word from TREARN either way?
>>

No, I can't even get through to the Trearn list administrator. It's like it
fell off the face of the Earth. Once I learn Kryptonian, I'll fire off an
inquiry there as well ;)

Zoomway@aol.com
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At 08:54 PM 06/06/99 -0700, Cindy wrote:
>I recently read a fanfic based in the Alt Dimension where parties both
>good and bad (including Tempus) came back in time to stop Clark from
>rescuing Lois from her fate in the Congo.  I don't know the title or
>author, but I don't think it's part of the Archive.  I didn't bookmark
>the site I found the story on, or if I did my massive number of fanfic
>bookmarks is managing to hinder me from finding it on my own.
>
>Does anyone know the story I've described and where I can find it?
>

It *is* on the archive, Cindy. I enjoyed this premise too -- it was rather
"neater" than a lot of alt-stories, in that it cleaned up after itself,
even if it was very confusing at the same time! I loved the way the "good
guys" from the alternate future didn't recognize Superman, since he hadn't
existed in their past. At any rate, the title is "Two, Each Their Own," by
Mercury. I don't know how to set the URL to be clickable in e-mail, but
here it is:

http://www.lcfanfic.actwd.com/stories/2each.txt

Perhaps those that know how to do that could educate the rest of us? :)

Hazel
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>Sheila
>(man, I just did a word count on the whole thing, and it's 55,000 words,
>which is the length of a category romance novel--between half again and
>twice as long as the Friedman L&C novels)
>

And we love you for it, Sheila. <g>

jem
(who's *pretty* sure she can hang on for another week :)
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At 07:39 PM 06/06/1999 +0100, you wrote:
>Debby,
>
>S
>O
>I
>L
>E
>R
>
>S
>P
>A
>C
>E
>
>Can you have a word with young Mr Kent, and ask him to explain the frog
>metaphor - he's driving me bananas! <bg>.

In the original pilot, Jonathan Kent warned his son to be careful in the
outside world, lest his secret be discovered and he wind up "disected like a
frog, I know, Dad." I figured CK had heard this a thousand times.
Interesting
how, in that case at least, kids don't listen. Were those responsible for
the
science behind the Argh think of frogs in that context, too, one wonders? I
had
JK mention the phrase in my rewrite.

>Seriously, I love the way you've introduced this 'Clark-speak' into the
>journal - makes him seem even more of a real person than he already is.
>
>Yvonne

Thanks, Yvonne! :D There's a lot more to come...

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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At 05:56 PM 06/06/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 6/6/99 12:13:52 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
yconnell@UKF.NET
>writes:
>
><< Can you have a word with young Mr Kent, and ask him to explain the frog
> metaphor - he's driving me bananas! <bg>.
>  >>
>As no one else has addressed this, I volunteer!  :
>I believe the frog metaphor is referring to Pa Kents warning, that Clark is
>so obviously used to that he chimes in, (in the first episode) that Clark
>needs to be careful because if anyone discovered his abilities he would be
>locked up and dissected like a frog.
>Kate (the Maryland one)
>back to lurk mode...
>

Absolutely right. Don't lurk! Come out and play!

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
example that nonlurking is more fun
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At 03:01 PM 06/06/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>Debby, I'm delighted with this story, as with all your writing.  Your
>portrait of the young, eager Clark Kent is irresistible and ...
>
>*Spoiler:
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
>*
[snip re hair on chest]
>
>Debby, I'm so glad you mentioned this, since Clark's condition has been
>worrying me for quite some time.   I'm pleased that you noticed it, too,
>and that you've suggested a remedy.

Dean has noticed it as well. In an on-set interview, he pointed out that his
double had a hair chest, showing the viewer, as opposed to is own chest.
>
>I thought at first that Clark's hairless state was
>peculiar to Kryptonians, but I've noticed that other television
>characters suffer from the same malady -- Captain Kirk, for example.  I
>don't know if he's ever tried black coffee.

I think in Dean's case it's due to his Asian background. I don't know about
Shatner since he's... Canadian ;) (Maybe he's part Native American? I knew a
sunny-blond Cherokee named Cherry one time)

>Here's hoping the coffee will help.

I think it'll take more than coffee... :)

>Thanks for the great story--I'm looking forward to the next installments!
>
>Peggy  :-)
>gremlino@pathway.net

I figure I've got 1.5 months' worth :)

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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In a message dated 06/07/1999 4:14:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jem@WEBONE.COM.AU writes:

<< >Sheila
 >(man, I just did a word count on the whole thing, and it's 55,000 words,
 >which is the length of a category romance novel--between half again and
 >twice as long as the Friedman L&C novels)
 >

 And we love you for it, Sheila. <g> >>

Yeah, and when that book publisher realizes there might still be a market
for
L&C novels they should be looking to YOU not Friedman (even if he is a Long
Islander like me).

--Laurie (the Ord one)
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A question has mulling in my head for while.

Lois is depicted in the show as a hard nosed investigative reporter. An
experienced , Kerth award winning professional driven to seek out 'Truth and
Justice' . A reporter , who if she detects even the slightest hint of lies
or
misdirection will lie , cheat and steal to uncover it. In fact, this type of
story is her meat & potatoes and she avoids the 'touchy feely stuff' like
the
plague. She's suspicious of anything that seems too good to be true and you
have to prove it to her again and again for her to believe it. She refuses
to
get involved with any man. She's "dedicated" to her job, and besides she
can't trust them.

Yet when Superman first appears on the scene, she is bowled over like
tenpins. She is stunned, awed and instantly obsessed with anything Superman.
In fact she promotes Superman as an instant hero and as a symbol of 'Truth
and Justice'. Someone to believe in and trust. She pretty much creates the
Superman Legend. Clark had just intended the suit to be a disguise. Lois
turns it into a symbol and the man into a icon.

My question here is Why? She should have gone after Superman, like a hunter
stalking big game, not like a gaga groupie. Some might say that it is the
'Soulmate' connection coming through or that Superman is a safe fantasy. If
it was a Soulmate connection, though that could be a part of it, why didn't
she feel it for Clark? And her reaction seems far too extreme for a safe
fantasy. I have safe fantasies (I'm sure we all do) and none of them go as
far as she did.

Perhaps Lois needed a hero. We all do. But was she so starved for that hero,
that she would go nuts over the first shining knight to make an appearance?
What's going on? Comments anyone?

budmayes@aol.com
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In a message dated 6/6/99 7:27:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
Teri44isme@AOL.COM writes:

<< yes! cat was just slutish, while Lois was the real cool smart sexy one.
the
 one that deserved the perfect man like clark

 >>
Cat was definitely "sluttish", but after rewatching the first four episodes
in the last 24 hours, I have to say that at the beginning Lois does not
impress me as being cool or sexy and definitely not deserving Clark.  She
was
combative, rude at times, and downright mean to Clark.  To misquote Jimmy,
"Mad Dog Lane mean anything?"
This is not to say that her character does not improve; it does.

Ann
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In a message dated 6/7/99 7:02:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Larus2407@AOL.COM
writes:

<<
 Yeah, and when that book publisher realizes there might still be a market
for
 L&C novels they should be looking to YOU not Friedman (even if he is a Long
 Islander like me).
  >>

Only because Sheila is a much better writer and her plots are much more
interesting than Friedman's.

Ann
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No Name Available wrote:
>
> In a message dated 06/07/1999 4:14:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> jem@WEBONE.COM.AU writes:
>
> << >Sheila
>  >(man, I just did a word count on the whole thing, and it's 55,000 words,
>  >which is the length of a category romance novel--between half again and
>  >twice as long as the Friedman L&C novels)
>  >
>
>  And we love you for it, Sheila. <g> >>
>
> Yeah, and when that book publisher realizes there might still be a market
for
> L&C novels they should be looking to YOU not Friedman (even if he is a
Long
> Islander like me).
>
> --Laurie (the Ord one)

Hey No Name Available, the Ord One....

Forget Sheila!<g>  If a publisher was willing to pay me, *I'd* write
it.  Who wouldn't!

Sandy
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In a message dated 06/07/1999 7:49:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
smcdermin@EROLS.COM writes:

<< Hey No Name Available, the Ord One....

 Forget Sheila!<g>  If a publisher was willing to pay me, *I'd* write
 it.  Who wouldn't! >>

Sandy, you've got my vote too!! :)

--Laurie (no name available)
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In a message dated 06/07/1999 7:37:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Aerm1@AOL.COM
writes:

<<  Yeah, and when that book publisher realizes there might still be a
market
for
  L&C novels they should be looking to YOU not Friedman (even if he is a
Long
  Islander like me).
   >>

 Only because Sheila is a much better writer and her plots are much more
 interesting than Friedman's. >>

"ONLY"???? Was there any doubt? This is EXACTLY why I said this! <g>

--Laurie
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On Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:26:59 EDT Norman Mayes <Budmayes@AOL.COM> wrote:

> A question has mulling in my head for while.
[snip]
> My question here is Why? She should have gone after Superman, like a
hunter
> stalking big game, not like a gaga groupie. [snip]

Yes - good point. I have an as-yet-unfinished, and very long, fanfic,
which I've now been working on for about a year, which addresses this
precise issue. I'm not sure when it will be finished as it still
needs quite a bit of work.

Wendy
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On Thu, 3 Jun 1999 21:31:43 CDT Jessi Mounts <jessi914@HOTMAIL.COM>
wrote:

> Oh, but there is a problem with that.  I've never tried to sneak in
popcorn
> before.  That would be difficult.  But candy is another story. Food prices
> are always sky-high (or at least the midwest's version of sky-high) in
> theaters.  If the a theater worker caught you bringing your own candy into
a
> movie, they'd ask you to leave it.  The best strategy is to hope someone
has
> a nice, large purse and hide it all.

That is *weird*! Over here, it is none of the cinema's business if
customers bring in their own snacks or (non-alcoholic) drink. You
certainly could not be asked to leave as a result. This seems a bit
anti-competitive to me.

Wendy
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> >Debby, I'm so glad you mentioned this, since Clark's condition has been
> >worrying me for quite some time.   I'm pleased that you noticed it, too,
> >and that you've suggested a remedy.

> >I thought at first that Clark's hairless state was
> >peculiar to Kryptonians,

> I think in Dean's case it's due to his Asian background.

> >Here's hoping the coffee will help.

I don't know about anyone else but I happen to like Dean's chest without
hair on it.  I like a man's chest to be with as little or no hair as
possible.  Personal preference I guess. :-P  However, a man's "happy
trail" (or whatever my brother calls it), now don't get me started on
that!  :-D

I am enjoying your story too, Debby!  Very refreshing point of view.

Shannon
srouse@hamilton.net
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Wendy wrote:

>That is *weird*! Over here, it is none of the cinema's business if
>customers bring in their own snacks or (non-alcoholic) drink. You
>certainly could not be asked to leave as a result. This seems a bit
>anti-competitive to me.
>
Yeah, I meant to respond to that one and forgot. You can, of course, imagine
cinemas (especially the more voracious, US style multiplexis which have
grown up over the past decade her and now tend to dominate the market) not
being keen on the profit loss, especially as their concessions prices are
skyhigh this side of the Pond too. But I think they know better than to make
an issue of it. <G>

In fact, I've only seen one incident where there was trouble and that was a
few years back on a Saturday evening visit when some guy brought in a fish
supper with him. And even then no one bothered him until the people around
him complained to the management that the overpowering stench of vinegar was
making them nauseated, which was when he was politely evicted. <G>

And the reason that it would be easier over here to sneak in popcorn - I
think someone queried that previously - is that until quite recently you got
popcorn in plastic bags, just like candy. The convention of eating popcorn
in cardboard containers is a relatively new idea, brought in with those same
multiplexis, mostly.

LabRat :)
Doc. Klein's LabRat
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"What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I
definitely overpaid for my carpet." -- Woody Allen, Without Feathers, 1976.

"I won't eat anything that has intelligent life but I would gladly eat a
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On Fri, 4 Jun 1999 09:34:43 -0400 Phillip Atcliffe
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>
> This leads to what I think is a rather nasty form of grade _de_flation,
> in which even the best students have trouble getting much more than 70%
> because that's thought to correspond to first-class standard (kinda
> makes it hard to get a 70+ average, wouldn't you say?).

Phil is quite right, and (having spent the day in examination
boards!) we do get told by external examiners that we should be using
the full range of marks rather more. Marking is not an exact science,
however, so I have no problem with seeing the UK and US systems as
compatible; if I read an essay and decide that it merits a B+ or 2-1,
I will then award it the relevant percentage which applies to that
grade.

Even in what I (for convenience) referred to as 'precision' subjects,
lecturers (okay, for the US readers, professors ;) ) will set exams
with a level of difficulty based on what they would expect a
first-class student to obtain. Therefore even in pure Maths, where
for example a mark of 100% is theoretically possible, the paper will
be set at such a level of difficulty that only the very best students
would attain 70% or more.

Phil's also right about the difficulty of attaining an arithmetical
mean of 70% or more to get a first-class honours degree, which is why
most universities have complicated formulae which enables students to
get a I, or a 2-I, or whatever, even if the arithmetical mean of
their individual marks does not give them that grade.

> So this business of relative grades is even more complex than it
> appears, and academics are, as usual, caught in the middle between the
> need to give students due credit (or not, in the case of the dumb jock)
> and the demands of self-appointed critics that standards be maintained.

Tell me about it!!

Wendy
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I've just been reading a book called Ruined By Reading by Lynne Sharon
Schwartz.  (The title is actually tongue in cheek.)  Schwartz wrote one of
my
all time favorite books called Disturbances in the Field.  The next lines
reminded me of the long discussion on this list regarding sources of ideas
of
stories.... enjoy.
        "Few, if any, stories are pure invention.  Invention needs something
to invent from, or with.  Stories come from history, or from reality - lived
or observed - or, as any quick survey will show, from other stories....
Imagination is the refiner's fire; the sensibility of each new generation is
the lens.  Everything made has been transformed, just as language itself is
translation from the inarticulate chaos within.  To be a purist about
adaptation is to attempt to halt an endlessly evolving process midway."
       Carry on, writers.    LaurieD
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Anyone who hasn't read this story really should.  It's nice to see another
review of it.  It's one of the best.      LaurieD
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Laurie Dunn wrote:
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> Anyone who hasn't read this story really should.  It's nice to see another
> review of it.  It's one of the best.      LaurieD

Anticipating the next question <g>

  Little Man, Super by Sandy McDermin is available on Sandy's
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I don't think it's on the main fanfic archives yet.
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At 04:27 PM 6/7/99 +0100, Wendy Richards wrote:

>That is *weird*! Over here, it is none of the cinema's business if
>customers bring in their own snacks or (non-alcoholic) drink. You
>certainly could not be asked to leave as a result. This seems a bit
>anti-competitive to me.

In the US, Wendy, ticket sales normally only allow a movie theater to break
even.  In order to make a profit, they depend on sales of concessions.
Sneaking in popcorn or candy or even pop is *very* like bringing food into a
restaurant.

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re: sneaking popcorn into theaters, Wendy commented
> That is *weird*! Over here, it is none of the cinema's business if
> customers bring in their own snacks or (non-alcoholic) drink. You
> certainly could not be asked to leave as a result. This seems a bit
> anti-competitive to me.

Well, see, the snacks are the theater's main source of profit -- or so
it's been explained to me.  They don't make too much on each ticket,
supposedly, but they make it up in outrageous mark-ups on the snacks &
drinks.  If you bring your own, you're depriving them of revenue, so
they're pretty careful about it.  And they're *all* like that, so the
competition doesn't help...
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In a message dated 6/7/99 6:27:37 AM Central Daylight Time, Budmayes@AOL.COM
writes:

<< Perhaps Lois needed a hero. We all do. But was she so starved for that
hero,
 that she would go nuts over the first shining knight to make an appearance?
 What's going on? Comments anyone? >>

Unlike Cat, discussed in another thread, we did see two opposing and
battling
sides to Lois Lane from the very beginning of the series. She was a
hard-nosed investigative reporter who had "interviews" instead of "dates"
according to her sister Lucy, yet, in the same episode, Lois watched a soap
opera she taped and wept like a baby over the sappy romantic story line.
Lois
seemed to not want to involve herself in anything that might touch her
heart,
and so she kept her cynical exterior in public, but fell apart emotionally
in
private or when she was at "death's door".

Lois would cover stories of crime and corruption rather than those with
sentimental impact (like the razing of the old theater) because her heart
was
safer in that venue.  She snapped at Clark, "I live by three rules. I never
get involved with my stories, I never let anyone else get there first, and I
never sleep with anyone I work with."  She later confessed, however,
"Remember my three rules? Well, I've broken every one of them."

*This* was the Lois Lane we met right in the pilot. She wanted to be as
tough
as she pretended to be because cynics are never disappointed. They view
their
fellow man, or woman, as always living down to their lowest expectations.
However, Lois was a cynic "wannabe" because "Mad Dog Lane" was as much a
disguise for her as "Superman" was a disguise for Clark Kent. Realistically,
had Lois been a *true* cynic, then you're right, Superman would have been
someone she'd have been picking apart looking for flaws and chinks in his
armor. The way Lex Luthor did in Neverending Battle. Lex was a *true* cynic.
He held humanity in sneering contempt, and his concept of "love" was so
twisted that he viewed it as a battlefield game plan where even murder was
not out of place as a means to an end.

A phony cynic like Lois Lane, on the other hand, would decry "stage" magic
(Illusions of Grandeur), but was as vulnerable to *true* magic as Superman
was vulnerable to supernatural magic. To Lois, Superman was "real" magic.
When he ran into the Messenger shuttle, Lois was at first her usual
suspicious and judgmental self. She told the "nut" in the tights to, "stay
away from that!" (the bomb) Superman, unheeding of her warning, grabbed the
plastic explosive, swallowed it, and after it exploded, he burped. He was
even polite enough to say, "Excuse me." Lois was literally wide-eyed with
astonishment, "What the *hell* are you?"  Superman simply smiled and walked
away. Lois followed, still stunned by what she saw. She told the colonists,
"There was a bomb. He...he...*ate* it."

>>>My question here is Why? She should have gone after Superman, like a
hunter
stalking big game, not like a gaga groupie.<<<

If you ask this question regarding Lois' attitude about Superman, then isn't
it equally fair to ask why she didn't go after Lex Luthor "like a hunter
stalking big game"?  Both Lex and Superman seemed "too good to be true" in
their public personas. Lex, a billionaire, was seen as a man who used his
riches and power altruistically, employing thousands, establishing
charities,
and giving generously to others. Yet, how does an "altruist" become a
billionaire? Why did he not give "one on one" interviews? He took over his
first company at the age of twenty-one, do altruists "take over" anything?
Do altruists buy the highest penthouse so that everyone else in Metropolis
will have to "look up" to them?  Again, unlike a true cynic, Lois *wanted*
to
believe in something or someone that was pure and good, and so often
justified her reasoning for giving Lex a pass by pointing up the good he'd
done for the community while glossing over the things he might have done to
become such a powerful billionaire to begin with. Lex, after all, wouldn't
have been the first man to become wealthy by ruthless means and then suffer
a
"change of heart" and so Lois may have put him in that category, but never
once thought about digging for the real truth.

For Lois to be as "hard as nails" as she pretended and professed, then she
wouldn't have had the slightest qualms about using the information she'd
found that was damning to her father in Requiem for a Super Hero, but she
just couldn't do it, and was disappointed in the fact that she couldn't. She
said to Clark, "Who would want a partner who talks a good game, but when the
story hits too close to home, she backs down." Clark replied with genuine
warmth and admiration, "I would."

As early and as far back in the series as you choose to go, Clark was
becoming a "hero" to Lois in a much more realistic and subtle way. Unlike
Superman, or even Lex, there was no "ga-ga groupie" reaction. Clark had to
*earn* her respect, trust and love every step of the way, and he did. Other
men would have taken the hint long ago and left Lois to grow ever darker and
more cynical, and perhaps achieve that status of a true cynic in the vein of
Lex Luthor, but not Clark Kent. He saw in Lois what she tried so hard to
hide
>from the world, and maybe it's because he too was a practiced "hider" that
he
was living the adage "takes one to know one". He saw right through her, even
without x-ray vision.

First season, if you were to look for a unifying theme, it might be
"disguises". Lex, Lois, Clark and Superman were not what they appeared to be
on the surface. Lex was the villain pretending to be an altruist, Lois was
the "believer" masquerading as the cynic, Clark was a lion hiding inside a
kitten and Superman was the kitten who looked like a lion. Gradually the
masks were stripped away. A true cynic like Lex, his mask gone, proved to be
a coward who would rather die than face reality without his mask of
respectability. Clark, his mask gone, finally "fit in" even if that was only
with Lois. Superman became someone that Lois and Clark protected and guarded
together, and Lois Lane? Well, she decided that maybe instead of polishing
her Kerth awards and looking back on the "glories" of her past, that she'd
share the "present" with Clark Kent and they'd both work together to make
the
future a better place.

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they're being passionate, and that polite veneer of society drops off. You
know, like when they're fighting..."

"Or make love."
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In a message dated 06/07/1999 1:44:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
DUNNFOUR@AOL.COM writes:

<< Anyone who hasn't read this story really should.  It's nice to see
another
 review of it.  It's one of the best.      LaurieD >>

Yup and worthy of a Kerth nomination (and win, I hope!). Now I just have to
remember when it comes time...

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In a way you're correct in saying this but.... You have to include what has
happened to Lois up until Clark showed up. She had divorced parents that
were
constantly fighting, a string of bad relationships, and more. She was just
having a bad time with life at that time so the real Lois was hidden until
Clark.                  Kristin
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> ><< Can you have a word with young Mr Kent, and ask him to explain the
frog
> > metaphor - he's driving me bananas! <bg>.
> >  >>
> >As no one else has addressed this, I volunteer!  :
> >I believe the frog metaphor is referring to Pa Kents warning, that Clark
is
> >so obviously used to that he chimes in, (in the first episode) that
Clark
> >needs to be careful because if anyone discovered his abilities he would
be
> >locked up and dissected like a frog.
> >Kate (the Maryland one)
> >back to lurk mode...
> >
>
> Absolutely right. Don't lurk! Come out and play!
>

Duh!  Me stupid! - should have thought of that one.

Thanks, Debby and Kate,

Yvonne
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Wendy wrote:
>
> > A question has mulling in my head for while.
> [snip]
> > My question here is Why? She should have gone after Superman, like a
hunter
> > stalking big game, not like a gaga groupie. [snip]
>
> Yes - good point. I have an as-yet-unfinished, and very long, fanfic,
> which I've now been working on for about a year, which addresses this
> precise issue. I'm not sure when it will be finished as it still
> needs quite a bit of work.
>

Having read what Wendy has written to far, I can tell you this is vintage
'Wendy Richards', so I, for one, am hoping that she finishes it in the
not-too-distant future (hi, Wendy <g>).

Yvonne
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I believe it was the soulmate thing, and she did feel it for Clark when she
first saw him and Superman was just the safer one to show it for. As you
recall she said to Clark that she fought her feelings for him due to her
being afraid, but with Superman he wasn't real enough for her to have to be
afraid. So she did feel the same way towards Clark, she was just to stubborn
and scared at the time to admit it.

                        Kristin
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As it goes, being a high school student, we see somewhat of a different
view.  ie, last year's valodictorian had a 5.1 gpa and our salutorian had a
5.0.  Talk about grade inflation.

What happens in Washington Township in Indianapolis is that students have
the option of taking a weighted course, which means that you can add .2 to
your gpa.  It's amazing how hard it is to remain in the top percentiles of
your class because of this weighted factor.  Then you must add in all the
Advanced Placement and college courses that our school offers.

Basically what I am saying is that GPA's differ according to where you are
located in the United States.  I don't know of any school out side of
Indiana that operates on that system. If you find one let me know. <g>

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>From MR. D8A's work email

Just did a quick and dirty search of various web sites and found zip, zilch,
nada, nothing.  In my own experience of Supermandom I can find no reference
to Martha's middle name and until the advent of L&C:TAOS I never heard word
one about Lois' parents, though recently they apparently have appeared in DC
as Sam and Ellen.

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I'm not sure if this question has been asked before, but does anyone
know if middle names are ever mentioned for either Martha Kent or Ellen
Lane.

Alternatively, are there middle names that have been mentioned
consistently in fanfics for these two characters?

All help is very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Irene
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Sheila wrote
>In the US, Wendy, ticket sales normally only allow a movie theater to break
>even.  In order to make a profit, they depend on sales of concessions.
>Sneaking in popcorn or candy or even pop is *very* like bringing food into
>a
>restaurant.
>

I agree and disagree.  For those of us with very little pocket money
sneaking in our own candy is the way to go.  I think I recall taking in
juice a couple of times, I haven't been to the cinema in a while.  Most
times, if you don't make a big fuss about it, they don't care.  A fish
dinner on the other hand is going a little over board if you ask me.

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At 02:54 AM 06/07/1999 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 6/7/99 12:34:24 AM Central Daylight Time,
>SuperGem4@AOL.COM writes:
>
><< So ... just curious ... maybe I missed something <g> ... but does this
mean
> that it is *absolutely* *positively* *official* that LOISCLA is dead,
buried,
> gone and never ever coming back???  Zoom?  No word from TREARN either
way? >>
>
>No, I can't even get through to the Trearn list administrator. It's like it
>fell off the face of the Earth. Once I learn Kryptonian, I'll fire off an
>inquiry there as well ;)
>
>Zoomway@aol.com

If you have a snailmail address... maybe we could take up a collection and
send
it to them as a form of thanks for their years of free service to us :)

Debby
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At 07:26 AM 06/07/1999 -0400, BudMayes wrote:

[snip thoughtful look at Lois]

>Perhaps Lois needed a hero. We all do. But was she so starved for that
hero,
>that she would go nuts over the first shining knight to make an appearance?
>What's going on? Comments anyone?
>
>budmayes@aol.com

I think that Lois had trouble with men because none of them could live up to
her high standards. She needed someone who she saw as being as dedicated to
truth and justice as she was--but who was better at it because he didn't lie
and cheat like she felt she did from time to time. Superman, or her vision
of
him, was *the* man she had been looking for.  Why didn't she investigate
him?
Because she might find he was less heroic than her vision. Look how startled
she was in Bolt From the Blue. *We* understood Superman's actions, but she
wasn't prepared to give him any slack at all. In finding Superman to be less
than her ideal, she was able to broaden her sights and see Clark, who was
easier to get along with, easier to talk to (he didn't threaten to
intimidate
her), and he was equally (I imagine) easy on her eyes.

I base my argument that she was looking for a man who was equal to herself
on
her season one second best pick: Lex Luthor, 2nd richest man in the world
and,
for all everyone knew, a wealthy knight in shining armor. You point out how
Lois didn't investigate Superman, didn't chase him down and find the truth.
Her
reaction was the same with Luthor. Interesting, huh?

Someone else can tackle Scardino (who was brought into play to... show how
dumb
Clark was acting, I guess), or Deter (who was brought in to give Clark
someone
to threaten to beat up and really mean it...?).

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 16:03:04 -0500
From: Jeff Brogden <jwbrogden@bigfoot.com>
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Hello Debby,

I'm no longer on the fanfic list, but I was playing catchup
via the web interface and happend across Misha "nitpickings".
Feel free to post this to the list, since I can't.

Misha wrote:
> Nitpicking from the Smallville girl: <g>
...

I guess this could be titled "Nitpicking from a Smallville guy".  :-)
For the record, I was born and raised in Kansas, and most of my
family lives in Kansas.  I went to Kansas State University.  I did so
because I liked K-State's Computing Department better than KU's and,
simply, it was cheaper.  At the time, I had no loyalty to one or the
other.  Now - well - I wouldn't be a true Wildcat if I didn't speak up.
They might revoke my alumni membership!  :-)

I think the most important thing to get from Misha's note is this:

> There's a fairly intense
> rivalry between the Jayhawks (KU) and the Wildcats (K-St), and every other
> license plate in Kansas has either a little purple wildcat sticker in the
> middle or a little blue and red bird.

The keywords in the above paragraph being "intense rivalry."  <vbg> With
that in mind - I offer my two cents on the matter.  Take them with a smile,
please.

> There's two main universities in Kansas: University of Kansas (KU) in
> Lawrence, and Kansas State University (K-State) in Manhattan. KU is right
> between Kansas City and Topeka, the state capitol, and it's a fairly good
> sized town. It's well known for its academics (the Journalism school is
> great) and the fact that tornados always seem to miss the town due to the
> lake just west of town.

I work for the National Severe Storms Laboratory, where we do a
lot of research on tornados.  I have often heard people say things
like this, or similar to this.  Topeka was often thought to be safe
>from tornados since it was built in a valley.  Most everyone believed
that, until Topeka got hit by a tornado.  In the town I live now,
people think the river protects it from tornados.  I've even heard
of some Indian burial ground around here that deflects things.

The point is, rivers, lakes, mountain, buildings, etc. provide no
amount of safety from a tornado.  Tornado's will go where they darn
well please, and not much can stop them.  They have been known to turn,
and change directions.  Ground features *can* have an affect on the
path of a tornado.  However, when you are talking about a storm that
is anywhere from 50,000 to 70,000+ feet in the air, spreading out for
miles, there are few things that will influence something that big.

        note from Debby: I lived in Tulsa, OK for quite some time and
        tornadoes seemed always to strike the south side of town--or
        maybe they just stayed on the flat ground longer ;) What was
        funny to me though was that was where many of the wealthy white
        people lived. Many hospitals and Oral Roberts University are
        there (not anywhere near the major black population in the
        hilly north). I always thought it proper that tornados
        people who could afford them... especially those with an "in"
        with God.. ;) - Debby

A good informational site on tornados can be found at:

http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/NWSTornado/

> K-State is further out on the plains, and is
> definitely an Aggie-school. I met a guy just the other day who was going
to
> K-State, majoring in (what else?) Land-Management.

It is true, Kansas State University was originally an Agricultural
University.  It is a "state" university.  However, most people going
to KSU are not getting Ag-related majors.  If you throw in Human
Ecology, the total number of Ag-related majors at KSU last year was
20%.  If you leave them out, and just count the Agriculture degrees
and the Veterinary Medicine degrees then the numbers drop to 14%.

The rest of the degree's break down like this:

Architecture (11%), Arts & Sciences (31%), Business (12%),
Education (10%), Engineering (13%), Technology and Aviation (3%)

Agriculture based degrees are a large part of KSU's makeup, but not
the largest.

K-State is also well known for it academics.

KSU is the only public university over the past 15 years to rank
among the top 10 of all U.S. schools for all four of these major
scholarship programs:  Marshall, Rhodes, Truman and Goldwater.

KSU ranks first nationally among all 500 state universities in both
Truman and Goldwater scholarship competition.  Adding the 1,500
private colleges and universities, KSU is second to Princeton in
Goldwaters, and sixth in Trumans.

KSU ranks second in Rhodes scholarships among public schools,
and 15 when adding the 1,500 private schools.

KSU ranks second in Marshall scholarships among public schools,
and 11 when adding the 1,500 private schools.

> I'm of the opinion that Clark's a Jayhawk. If he wanted to major in
> Journalism, there's no better place in Kansas (go In-State tuition!). The
> newspaper (The University Daily Kansan) is excellent,...

Well, I'd have to say he was a Wildcat.  His Ag background, and
limited $$ resources makes KSU a good match.  KSU's journalism
department is equally excellent.  The A.Q. Miller School of
Journalism and Mass Communications is an accredited school.
They won the Associated Collegiate Press Pacemaker Award for both
the newspaper and the yearbook three times in the 1990s.  The
eCollegian was one of the nation's first online collage dailies.
It has been ranked among the top 25 online newspapers, both
commercial and collegiate.  The Collegian has had seven CSPA
crown awards since 1989.

KSU's football team during the mid 1980s (the most likely time of
his attendance) was pathetic at best.  What better place for the
strongest man alive to hide!  He would have no desire to compete
on a team so horrible.  The games were basically free for anyone
who showed up at the gate!  (One time, they even tried to pay
people to show up and watch the game.  Really!  Honest!  Would
I lie to you?)  ;-)

(...climbing off my purple soapbox...)

Take care,

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In a message dated 6/7/99 4:37:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Zoomway@AOL.COM
writes:

First off, I want to say thanks for your insight, Zoomway.  Your comments
always show me things I have missed or maybe skimmed over.

<< My question here is Why? She should have gone after Superman, like a
hunter
 stalking big game, not like a gaga groupie.<<<

 >>  She did go after Superman like a hunter.  Remember in Neverending
Battle
when she almosts foams at the mouth when Perry tells everyone that Superman
is fair game?  "But he's MINE!"  And she follows Clark to Clinton St.
thinking he has found Superman as opposed to an appartment.  And only
someone
stalking big game would have stayed more than two minutes in the sewage
reclamation place only to find the Godzilla figure.

As Zoomway so eloquently put it, Lois has two sides to her character, and
she
shows them both.

Ann
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Well, I know that at the school where I teach, students have the following
system:

AP courses:             Honors courses:                 Academic courses (
regular program )
A = 6                                   A = 5
A = 4
B = 5                                   B = 4
B = 3
C = 2                                   C = 2
C = 2
D = 1                                   D = 1
D = 1
F = 0                                   F = 0
F = 0

We caculate 2 numbers: GPA which uses the unweighted scale ( 4, 3, 2, 1, 0 )
and QPA (quality point average) which uses the weighted scale.  Class rank
is
determined by QPA so that a student who gets a B in an AP class isn't
outranked by a kid with an A in an academic class.  The weighted scale is
supposed to take into account the different levels of difficulty in the
different programs.
Since we have ability  grouping for all academic courses, any student who
studies and does the work should be able to make a B.  Of course, not
everyone does because not everyone studies or does all their homework.

We had grade deflation this year, because we changed the grading scale and
raised the minimum percentage for an A by 2 points.  You should have heard
the screaming.

Ann
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Debby,

It has definitely been worth the wait for something new by you.  My Journal
is fascinating.... I'm dying to find out what's up with Lois ( or the lack
thereof).
Keep 'em coming.

Ann