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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1999 23:42:43 -0600
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From:         Kathy Brown <kathyb@FGI.NET>
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I've been on vacation for the last couple weeks and am slowly catching up
with email ... of course, this instantly caught my eye ...

At 9:34 AM -1000 12/28/98, Jamee Jones wrote:
> So we are
>all sitting there waiting and out comes the spitting image of Lois Lane
>but possibly in her middle 50's!
< Her name was really Kathy Brown

LOL, no way.  Too funny!  I'm only 30 and I don't look like Teri (sigh <g>)
but I do get a kick out of how popular my name is.  Usually, I hear about
Kathleen Brown, the politician from CA (a friend once had a magazine cover
framed for me which read "Kathy Brown for President" <g>).

Of course, the small town I lived in a few years ago had two of us, and we
had the same doctor!  I was always getting calls for her ... "just
confirming your appointment for tomorrow".  She even lived on a similar
sounding street.  Luckily she was 10 years older than me so I could
convince the callers there were two of us. <g>  I never met her but I did
have nice chats with several of her friends when they'd call Information
and get my number by mistake. The funniest were when they'd be someone with
the same name as a friend of *mine* and it would take the two of us a few
minutes of conversation to figure out that we really didn't know each
other. <bg>

I guess there are advantages to having a more complex last name ... it got
tiresome spelling my last name when I was single (put a Z and a -ski
together and people freak <vbg>, but if I had a nickle now for everyone
that said "Kathy Brown? That's my brother's wife's cousin's name" ;) I'd be
rich.

Happy New Year everyone!

Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1999 20:41:39 -1000
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Kathy Brown wrote:

> >>The funniest were when they'd be someone with
> the same name as a friend of *mine* and it would take the two of us a
> few
> minutes of conversation to figure out that we really didn't know each
> other. <bg><<

LOL! I guess that is a common name!  My name is Jamee Jones so I'm
always being called 'Jenny Jones'.  There was another Jamee Jones where
I used to live and this person had been  oohhh..how do you spell it, I
can't find it on spell check it's pronounced..suh..pee.. nod you know
when you gotta go to court.  anyways, they called me because of some
problem and I had a few phone calls and had a time convincing them I was
not that Jamee Jones!

> >>I guess there are advantages to having a more complex last name ...
> it got
> tiresome spelling my last name when I was single (put a Z and a -ski
> together and people freak <vbg>,<<

So what was your maiden name?  I couldn't wait to get rid of my maiden
name, it was Taksony!  But I really didn't want to be a Jones either!
Just doesnt sound to great with my name.  Oh well, what can you do? ;-)

j-me
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She lives!!! <g>

Welcome back, Kathy!

Erin  :)
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At 8:41 PM -1000 1/7/99, Jamee Jones wrote:

>So what was your maiden name?  I couldn't wait to get rid of my maiden
>name, it was Taksony!  But I really didn't want to be a Jones either!
>Just doesnt sound to great with my name.  Oh well, what can you do? ;-)

Zukowski ... between that and "Kathy with a K", I was always spelling
something. <g>

That's one reason we named our daughter Amy.  I wanted something that she
would never have to spell, and how much easier can it get than Amy Brown?
But what was I asked at least 6 times in those early months?  "How do you
spell that?"  HUH??  I guess times are such that people are more surprised
when you *don't* throw a twist into the name (Aimee or Amie). <g>

At 9:46 AM -0700 1/8/99, Erin Klingler wrote:
>She lives!!! <g>
>
>Welcome back, Kathy!

Thank you, thank you.  I had quite a trip and an adventure getting home (30
hours to get from CO to IL, and that was flying <g>). We were stuck in both
the Denver airport and Chicago-O'Hare due to the snow storm, but got home
safe and sound.  Now I just have a million emails to get through, not to
mention my house looks like it exploded due to unpacked suitcases,
mountains of laundry and my daughter's over-abundance of Christmas
presents. ;)

Kathy (who will be trying to carve out some time this weekend to give Erin
a phone call <g>)

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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1999 09:47:55 +1100
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From:         Jenny Stosser <jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
Subject:      Surnames, First names (was: Re: Kathy Who? <g> )
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My maiden name was one I was very glad to be rid of: I was Jenny Blank.  As
in "nothing."  I used to walk into classrooms of 14-15 year olds and get
"Don't you want to tell us your name, Miss?" EVERY SINGLE TIME (when I was
doing Relief Teaching)!

I believe that since I moved out of home and interstate, another Blank
family has arrived, and even owns a restaurant across the road from where
my brother used to work.  I think Mum even mentioned that one of the owners
is a Jenny Blank.

My dad's name is Leon; until he retired he was a psychologist and marriage
guidance counsellor.  A couple of decades ago, he travelled to the US and
tried to meet up with someone who had had articles printed in a psychology
journal by the name of Leo Blank, but it just happened that this man was
out of NY when dad was there :(

Oh, and one more surname story:  When my parents married, one of mum's
uncles said (as part of the speeches) that he'd "never seen anyone so happy
to draw a Blank in the Lottery of Life."  (wait, it gets worse...)

My older sister married a guy by the name of Andrew Same.  Dad told the
above story at the wedding and added, "I'm so glad to see my daughter's
done the Same."

Oh, and Megan, my daughter's name, is not pronounced Meggan.  It's Meeeg'n.
 She also answers to Meggie, or Murgatroid, or MeggyMoo, or MissMoo. Or
even just Moo!  And we've seen it misspelled as Meagan and Meghan too.  We
also tried to go for the simplest spelling to avoid that.

So much for that idea!

At 02:10 PM 08/01/99 -0600, Kathy wrote:
>At 8:41 PM -1000 1/7/99, Jamee Jones wrote:
>
>>So what was your maiden name?  I couldn't wait to get rid of my maiden
>>name, it was Taksony!  But I really didn't want to be a Jones either!
>>Just doesnt sound to great with my name.  Oh well, what can you do? ;-)
>
>
>Zukowski ... between that and "Kathy with a K", I was always spelling
>something. <g>
>
>That's one reason we named our daughter Amy.  I wanted something that she
>would never have to spell, and how much easier can it get than Amy Brown?
>But what was I asked at least 6 times in those early months?  "How do you
>spell that?"  HUH??  I guess times are such that people are more surprised
>when you *don't* throw a twist into the name (Aimee or Amie). <g>
>
>
>
>At 9:46 AM -0700 1/8/99, Erin Klingler wrote:
>>She lives!!! <g>
>>
>>Welcome back, Kathy!
>
>
>Thank you, thank you.  I had quite a trip and an adventure getting home (30
>hours to get from CO to IL, and that was flying <g>). We were stuck in both
>the Denver airport and Chicago-O'Hare due to the snow storm, but got home
>safe and sound.  Now I just have a million emails to get through, not to
>mention my house looks like it exploded due to unpacked suitcases,
>mountains of laundry and my daughter's over-abundance of Christmas
>presents. ;)
>
>Kathy (who will be trying to carve out some time this weekend to give Erin
>a phone call <g>)
>
>______________________
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>
>
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In a message dated 99-01-08 17:50:18 EST, jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes:

<< Oh, and one more surname story:  >>

Well, I've had the occasion to return calls to a local 2nd grade teacher
named
Ina Winer (pronounced whiner--and her first name has the "i" as in vine not
Gina). I'm told this is her married name.

But my favorites were Mrs. Fyfe the music teacher in my elementary school
(she's still there, I think) and when I was in 1st grade the two 1st grade
teachers were Mrs. Wolf and Mrs. Fox!

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From:         Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci <bevnsag@NETCOM.COM>
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>
> In a message dated 99-01-08 17:50:18 EST, jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes:
>
> << Oh, and one more surname story:  >>

 And mine is Richard Swindler, vice president of finance in one of the
divisions of my company.

Bev
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In a message dated 1/8/99 9:03:10 PM Central Standard Time,
bevnsag@NETCOM.COM
writes:

<< >
 > In a message dated 99-01-08 17:50:18 EST, jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU
writes:
 >
 > << Oh, and one more surname story:  >>
  >>

Well, I traded in LaCoume for McElhaney - my childhood dreams of a "easy"
name
that I didn't have to spell certainly didn't come true!   But it I have had
the unique experience of being asked in every city/state I've been to, at
least once, if I was related to "Dr. McElhaney" - I keep telling my husband
I
married the wrong guy - I could have married a doctor :)

But at least I didn't have my mom's problem her name was Mary E. Grace, and
she always got asked - No, I need your full name, when she told them her
name
was Mary Grace.

Lori
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>> Well, I traded in LaCoume for McElhaney - my childhood dreams of a
"easy" name
that I didn't have to spell certainly didn't come true!  <<

Hehe, Lori, I went the opposite way ... my maiden name was Weaver, which
I thought was just as dull as dirt, so I was glad to trade it in for
something as interesting as Jernigan.  I have to spell it for people, and=

the phone solicitors *never* pronounce it right (and honestly, it ain't
that tough - just use all the letters!), but I'm still happy with the tra=
de
:-)

And while we're talking last names... my husband and I are sure
we're distantly related, because we both have ancestors named Smith <g> =

How much more proof do you need?

PJ

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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1999 22:47:26 CST
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From:         Stefanie D Slifer <cute6@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      Re: TAN: Surnames, etc.

 Bev  writes:
>>
>> In a message dated 99-01-08 17:50:18 EST, jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU
>writes:
>>
>> << Oh, and one more surname story:  >>
>
> And mine is Richard Swindler, vice president of finance in one of the
>divisions of my company.
>
LOL!

I'll jump on the band wagon with my name story:

My parents decided to be a little untraditional and name me "Stefanie,"
with an "f" not a "ph."  Ah, but it goes with my last name "Slifer."
Three points if you can pronounce *that* correctly! <g>  Okay, okay, it's
like "life" with an S on the front and an R on the end: Sly-fur.  But we
get all sorts of different spelling on junk mail (Slicer, Slufer), and
telemarketers. . .

Added to that is the fact that we live on "Dexired" (dex-ee-red), so I
have to recite/spell *everything*.

I love my music minister's name: Stephen Carrell (like a Christmas
carol).  How appropriate!

Hugs,
Stefanie =)   cute6@juno.com
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Well, I have to jump in on this one.  My maiden name is Drew.  "Anne Drew"
All through school people kept teasing me and asking what my last name was.
Also, I was asked why my parents would name me Andrew.  Oh brother, I was
glad
when I married and took my husband's name of Carlson.  Although, it was
kinda
fun as a kid saying that my mother was "the" Nancy Drew that had all of the
adventures in the mystery series.  Another funny thing is that my mother's
maiden name is Hardy.  So, she got a lot more teasing as an adult about her
name.

This is a fun TAN.
Anne
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From:         Gillian B Tanz <aliendove@JUNO.COM>
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Ok.... Jill's bored and hopping on the name-discussion thread ;-)  Try
Gillian Tanz on for size. <bg>  The G's pronounced like a J but the rest
of the world doesn't know that ;)  Then you've got "Tanz", which is just
plain wierd.  I've been told it means "to dance" in German.  If I had a
quarter for every time a teacher called out Gilligan Taaahnzzzzzz on the
first day of school...well, I wouldn't be rich exactly but, well, that
would be pretty cool ;-)  Can't wait to get rid of Tanz, but drawing a
blank on what last name would flow nicely with Gillian.  Hm...."Cain"
seems to be the winner!  Uncanny how that works... ;-)

-Jill aka AlienDove-
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My turn again!

At 10:47 PM 08/01/99 CST, Stefanie D Slifer wrote:
>My parents decided to be a little untraditional and name me "Stefanie,"
>with an "f" not a "ph."  Ah, but it goes with my last name "Slifer."
>Three points if you can pronounce *that* correctly! <g>  Okay, okay, it's
>like "life" with an S on the front and an R on the end: Sly-fur.  But we
>get all sorts of different spelling on junk mail (Slicer, Slufer), and
>telemarketers. . .
>
>Added to that is the fact that we live on "Dexired" (dex-ee-red), so I
>have to recite/spell *everything*.

Stosser seems to come out as Stoffer despite spelling it out as
S-T-O-double S for Sam-E-R; or Stoser (long O - as in "stow-ser") for the
telemarketers, all too often!

And I live on Gowrie St, which no-one ever seems to know how to spell...
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My first name is a very commmon one and so there has always been some one
else
in my immediate "group" who has the same name. A good friend, my best friend
as a child, the wife of my husband's best friend  [a common suggestion from
them -- Why don't we take the Carols? ], and always another Carol on staff
since I started working.  I'm sure there are at least 10 Carols on this
list.
At times it can be a little confusing, not to mention the identity crisis
stuff. <g>  Anyone with the name Kathy, Debby, Barb must have had similar
experiences.

So I was thinking as I read this thread, Kent is a very common surname and
probably in a mega city like Metropolis, there must be another Clark Kent.
What if there was a mixup in the two -- perhaps with mail and then credit
card
stuff?  Perhaps something more serious -- Our Clark gets an important letter
meant for the other or begins to get threatening calls,  or the government
mixes the 2 up [taxes, or maybe the other Clark is an Illegal alien and they
want to deport him or...]  I thought I would suggest it as a possible story
line.  There's lots of snow outside and it's cold---a good time to write
[unless you ski til you drop].

Carol
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Ok, coming out of lurk mode to join in:  My last name is Crane.  How easy is
that?  But I have to spell it every single time I give it over the phone,
the
cleaners, etc.  The real kicker is when they ask me to spell my first name
too:  Kate.  Oh, to have Lois" knack at spelling my name out for the D as in
dimwitted.............
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Time for me to come out of lurking too. How would you like for your last
name
to be "Christian" ?  I can still remember when I was in Junior High School
in
Social Studies Class when we would be discussing religions of various
countries and Christianaity would pop up! I can't tell you how many stares
and
jokes about starting that religion from my classmates I would get because of
that! <g>

Luckily, since I got married and changed my last name to Howard, I don't get
that any more!

Audrey Howard
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There is a pubic accountant named Tom "Crook" in the town near mine.

                                                Elizabeth E. Davis
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I got you on the "Clark Kent" bit.  There is a DJ at a local radio station
named just that, but they haven't ever used its connection with Superman.

                                                Elizabeth E. Davis

On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, C.C. Malo wrote:

> My first name is a very commmon one and so there has always been some one
else
> in my immediate "group" who has the same name. A good friend, my best
friend
> as a child, the wife of my husband's best friend  [a common suggestion
from
> them -- Why don't we take the Carols? ], and always another Carol on staff
> since I started working.  I'm sure there are at least 10 Carols on this
list.
> At times it can be a little confusing, not to mention the identity crisis
> stuff. <g>  Anyone with the name Kathy, Debby, Barb must have had similar
> experiences.
>
> So I was thinking as I read this thread, Kent is a very common surname and
> probably in a mega city like Metropolis, there must be another Clark Kent.
> What if there was a mixup in the two -- perhaps with mail and then credit
card
> stuff?  Perhaps something more serious -- Our Clark gets an important
letter
> meant for the other or begins to get threatening calls,  or the government
> mixes the 2 up [taxes, or maybe the other Clark is an Illegal alien and
they
> want to deport him or...]  I thought I would suggest it as a possible
story
> line.  There's lots of snow outside and it's cold---a good time to write
> [unless you ski til you drop].
>
> Carol
>
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From:         Farah Meitzen Chisham <farah@CHISHAM.COM>
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At 11:51 PM 1/8/99 EST, you wrote:
>Well, I have to jump in on this one.  My maiden name is Drew.  "Anne Drew"
>All through school people kept teasing me and asking what my last name was.
>Also, I was asked why my parents would name me Andrew.

Hehe. Okay, everyone use to call me Farrah Fawcett (sp?) until they
realized it wasn't an insult -- dumb kids. Then people asked
if I was named after her. I WISH.

THere is a company called FARAH -- they make cheap dress pants.
I think Wal-Mart sells them. Everyonce in a while, I steal a hanger
with the name "Farah" on it.

Anyway. My dad was wearing these pants one day and thought it was a cool
name.

BTW. My maiden name is Meitzen. (now my middle name) I traded it for
Chisham. Perfect. same amount of tellers and sounds sort of the same.
I think its an Irish name. From German to Irish. who knew.

I had some friends in college that would call me Farah Jism. (yuck!) they
asked me if I got that alot growing up. They're really stupid.
I told them I only had "Chisham" for a few years.

Farah Meitzen Chisham

farah :)
fchisham@indiana.edu
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In a message dated 1/8/99 11:50:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, cute6@JUNO.COM
writes:

> LOL!
>
>  I'll jump on the band wagon with my name story:

Interesting thread. Since I don't like my unusual name, I feel compelled to
join in. <g> My real name is Christiane Kubit. I can always tell when
teachers/professors get to my name in roll call because they pause and make
a
confused face.

Christiane, which is pronounced "Christy Anne" was made up by my mother,
even
though it is also a French name. Talk about odd names, I've only ever *heard
of* three other people with my first name, never met any. Teachers usually
think it's "Christian" misspelled, so they think I'm a guy. Or they ignore
the
"a" and think it's "Christine." As for my last name, I've stopped correcting
people when they mispronounce it. It's pronounced like "Coo Bit," but it's
usually misprounced as "Cube It." The only good thing about it is my
initials-- CK. :)

-Christy
 Attalanta@aol.com
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From:         Emily Angerer Crawford <ccsupec@HELEN.OIT.GATECH.EDU>
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Might as well join in here. <g>  My maiden name was Angerer, which is a
German name (-er means "person of" and Anger means "field or meadow", which
gives me rather humble roots, which I like) and it is pronounced anger-rer.
The best I ever got out of my classmates growing up was "anger-er" with
something of a glottal stop before the second "er".  The name was regularly
misprounounced as "anjerer," "angrier" (and there were a lot of jokes about
anger to go with that) or even "angler" though I have no idea where the L
could come from.

So I was much relieved to be marrying a Crawford, a nice simple name that
almost nobody ever asks me to spell. :)  My only complaint has been that
"Emily Crawford" sounds like some kind of romance novelist.  I told this to
a bunch of FoLCs on IRC when I was trying to pick a nickname, and they said,
"So why not just become a romance novelist, then?"  I like the way we think.

Incidentally, I use the full "Emily Angerer Crawford" on my professional
work, and I noticed the other day that my German advisor has me on his web
site as just "Emily Angerer."  Finally, somebody who appreciates the name.
<g>

-Emily
current Computer Engineer and part-time vocalist; future Romance Novelist ;)
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Its quaint events were hammered out -- and now the tale is done,
And home we steer, a merry crew, beneath the setting sun." -Lewis Carroll
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Well, the people who made the street signs for my street didn't even know
how to spell it.  At one end we're St. Claire and at the other we're St.
Clair!!
Now, as for my very popular name...I graduated with 5 other Michelle
Lynn's and there were only 103 people in my class!!!  Also, there is a
woman who goes to the same bank as me who wins the prize...we are both
named Michelle Lynn Glenn...lol

Michelle

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On Sat, 9 Jan 1999, Jenny Stosser wrote:

> My turn again!
>
> At 10:47 PM 08/01/99 CST, Stefanie D Slifer wrote:
> >My parents decided to be a little untraditional and name me "Stefanie,"
> >with an "f" not a "ph."  Ah, but it goes with my last name "Slifer."
> >Three points if you can pronounce *that* correctly! <g>  Okay, okay, it's
> >like "life" with an S on the front and an R on the end: Sly-fur.  But we
> >get all sorts of different spelling on junk mail (Slicer, Slufer), and
> >telemarketers. . .
> >
> >Added to that is the fact that we live on "Dexired" (dex-ee-red), so I
> >have to recite/spell *everything*.
>
> Stosser seems to come out as Stoffer despite spelling it out as
> S-T-O-double S for Sam-E-R; or Stoser (long O - as in "stow-ser") for the
> telemarketers, all too often!
>
> And I live on Gowrie St, which no-one ever seems to know how to spell...
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and I've just got to put my experience in...I did the 80's thing (or is it
the 90's thing) and hyphenated my name when I got married.  The funny thing
is, I was rarely asked how to pronounce my maiden name (Alkire--though they
would say ALL-kire instead of al-kire, like the guy's name; that didn't
bother me much.)
But what mystifies me is that no one seems to be able to pronounce
Alkire-Cherry.  I get so many people asking me, wow, what nationality are
you?  I can't even answer, it's all I can do to avoid rolling my eyes!!!  :)

My favorite funny last names are military related (I'm currently in the
military).  I met a Sgt. America (I really hope he goes officer someday and
becomes Captain America); there's a Sgt. Navy in the Air Force.  And since
this is a G rated list, I'll just leave all the navy jokes alone--lower
enlisted swabbies are all called Seaman, and well, I don't think any more
needs to be said!!!  ;)

dana
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Well, hehe I might as well jump in too :)  My last name is Crustner but it's
pronounced Crooshner.  I've been called Crustier, Crusenturner and just
about everything else under the sun :)  My mom's maiden name was Trinkle and
she thought she'd do better when she got married, but Crustner is almost
worse :)

Mandy :)
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At 12:25 PM 09/01/99 -0600, Elizabeth E. Davis wrote:
>There is a pubic accountant named Tom "Crook" in the town near mine.
>                ^^^^^
>                                                Elizabeth E. Davis

I couldn't resist this one!  What does he account for?  And should we take
this comment to an nfic list? <G>
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Sorry, got to jump in a third time.  I once knew a girl whose name was,
and I'm not making this up, Twinkle van Winkle.  Everybody always used to
ask her where her brother Rip was.

                                                Elizabeth E. Davis
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Hey Kathy!

Gee, a -z- and an -ski- sounds Polish to me.  Hey, another Polock on the
list.
Yeah.  My grandfather changed the spelling of our name, unfortunately not
too
much. <g>  Welcome back!

Mark Safransky  (original spelling - Sczafranski)
x-lander@geocities.com
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I just thought that I would add my own to the list.
Both my maiden name and my married name get misspelled and pronounced
all the time. My maiden name pretty much gets pronounced the way it is
spelled  Diefenderfer, and my married name is pretty much the same
Seritsky.

As for street names, the street that I lived on for about nine years
is separated by a boys home, so one one end it is Putnam and on the
other end it is Putman.

==

Stacy

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Well, I like this thread so I thought I'd join in :)

I have a polish surname, Rosowski (ski meaning 'son of' and roso meaning
'rose')  and translated down it means that the name was probably derived
>from someone that worked in or near a garden <g>.
I have people spell my name wrong constantly, even after I tell them how to
say it (Ross-ovf-ski). I have had people say Rozouwski, Rozosky, one of the
nurses when my mother was in hospital called her 'Mrs Rozzowhiskey' (LOL),
and it is so funny because at my  work when they need to call me over the
p.a they usually just say Tricia or Tricia Rose.
My grade six teacher tried particularly hard to get all the surnames of the
students right on graduation day (and made a special point of saying mine
because my mother kept correcting him all the time!!) but he had a more
troublesome name than mine to pronounce <g> -- one of the girls in my class
has the longest name I have ever seen: Sutharshini Kamaleswaran (which is
pronounced for those wondering 'Sudthasheeny Camelezvaran') and takes a bif
of practice to get your tongue around :)
I like my surname because it is pretty unique where I live (there is only
one person in the phone book that isn't related to me) and gives me some
insight into my past (something I have almost no knowledge of and it is
really starting to interest me) although I am sure I will be happy to trade
it in when the time comes..... mmmm (I'm thinking 'Tricia Louise Banks'
sounds nice -- in my dreams! LOL)

trish

trish-r@bigfoot.com

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let the more loving one be me"
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In a message dated 99-01-09 18:57:56 EST, brocks_babe@YAHOO.COM writes:

<< so one one end it is Putnam and on the
 other end it is Putman. >>

Sounds like someone goofed and made a typo that stuck!!

--Laurie
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At 09:38 PM 09/01/99 EST, No Name Available wrote:
>In a message dated 99-01-09 18:57:56 EST, brocks_babe@YAHOO.COM writes:
>
><< so one one end it is Putnam and on the
> other end it is Putman. >>
>
>Sounds like someone goofed and made a typo that stuck!!
>
>--Laurie

There's a Blenheim/Blenhiem St near us.
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I live on a street that on one end says Timberlake Wilderville Rd. and on
the other says Wildersville Timberlake Rd.  Maybe it tries to tell people
just exactly where they are going.  Hmph!

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>At 09:38 PM 09/01/99 EST, No Name Available wrote:
>>In a message dated 99-01-09 18:57:56 EST, brocks_babe@YAHOO.COM writes:
>>
>><< so one one end it is Putnam and on the
>> other end it is Putman. >>
>>
>>Sounds like someone goofed and made a typo that stuck!!
>>
>>--Laurie
>
>There's a Blenheim/Blenhiem St near us.
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Okay, well, I don't have any surname stories that I can think of at the
moment.  But, I do have a little street name quip to share.  There is an
intersection about 5 minutes from where I live that I just stumbled across
one day.  It is an intersection between Dean Rd. and Clark Rd. (and the road
sign makes me smile whenever I see it:) -- pretty significant, eh?

--Erin
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In a message dated 99-01-09 23:17:01 EST, EJVANCE@PRODIGY.NET writes:

<< There is an
 intersection about 5 minutes from where I live that I just stumbled across
 one day.  It is an intersection between Dean Rd. and Clark Rd. (and the
road
 sign makes me smile whenever I see it:) -- pretty significant, eh? >>

And if you want to buy a little house there, I know where Lex Realty is...

--Laurie
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I have a street name story to throw in here.  The street I live on is
labeled Itaska Street at one end and Itaska Road the other end of the
block.  Then, when you look it up in the street guide, it's called Itaska
Avenue.  They really need to make up their minds!
Martha Rasch
"Supermav"
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Okay, must dive into this one.
Every time I go to Tampa I'm quite pleased to pass by Lois Avenue
to get to my office.  I like to rejoice in those little things, ya know?
<g>
Well one day, we went out to lunch and took some back roads to
get back to the office, and I almost jumped out of my seat when
I saw Clark Street about two blocks away!!!
Only thing is, they are parallel.
What was that Lois said? Together, but eternally
teased. <vbg>

Maggie

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> From: Erin J Vance <EJVANCE@PRODIGY.NET>
> To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Tan: street names
> Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 11:15 PM
>
> Okay, well, I don't have any surname stories that I can think of at the
> moment.  But, I do have a little street name quip to share.  There is an
> intersection about 5 minutes from where I live that I just stumbled
across
> one day.  It is an intersection between Dean Rd. and Clark Rd. (and the
road
> sign makes me smile whenever I see it:) -- pretty significant, eh?
>
> --Erin
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From:         Cristin J Whitley <ckandll4ever@JUNO.COM>
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Very interesting thread.

I'm not married so I can't say how my name has changed. :o) However, I
have had some name problems. My name is Cristin Jo Whitley. First off,
there were SO many baby girls born in the early 80s named
Cristin/Christen/Kristin/Kristen/Cristen/Christin. Ahem, and there are a
lot of ways to spell it. <g> I've only met one person who spells it the
same way that I do, but I've heard of a million! Seems at least once a
week some customer at work will stop me and say, "Oh my goodness! My
daughter/aunt/cousin/sister/wife/niece (you get the point) spells her
name like that. I have never seen it spelled that way anywhere else!"
Seems there are a lot of Cristins out there. Odd that I've only met one.
Maybe they are all hidden from the world... living in underground
dwellings or in treehouses or in the witness protection program. I don't
know! Anyway, the first day of school has always been stinky for me. See,
I used to go by C.J. (because there were so many
Cristin/Kristen/Christen/etc people). So I would always have to correct
every teacher. Now that I use my actual name again (guess all the people
with similar names failed, moved, or dropped out of school???), I still
get it messed up. Substitute teachers have called me Christian,
Christine, Christina, Kirsten, etc. With my last name being Whitley and
the role being last name, first name... I get called Whitney a lot too.
Also, once my grandmother ordered something from some catalog... they
changed the WH to SH in my last name... <g>

Cristin (no e, no a) Jo (no e... I'm a girl :o)) Whitley (not Whiteley,
not Whitney) :o)

PS - I have also accumulated a LOT of nicknames... Cris, Crissy, Ceej,
Ceeeejaaaaay (with all the vowels <g>), Kiki Do, Tin-tin, Scoopergirl (at
work <g>)... the list goes on and on...

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Oh oh oh!!! Here there is a Terry Street (so they spelled it wrong) and a
Clark Road that intersect. Terry Street also intersects with Emerson
Road.... I think if Teri has a son she should name him Phillip.. because
Emerson and Phillips is a big intersection here <g>

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On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 23:15:00 -0500 Erin J Vance <EJVANCE@PRODIGY.NET>
writes:
>Okay, well, I don't have any surname stories that I can think of at
>the
>moment.  But, I do have a little street name quip to share.  There is
>an
>intersection about 5 minutes from where I live that I just stumbled
>across
>one day.  It is an intersection between Dean Rd. and Clark Rd. (and
>the road
>sign makes me smile whenever I see it:) -- pretty significant, eh?
>
>--Erin
>
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At 03:45 PM 09/01/99 -0500, Cristin J Whitley wrote:
>Very interesting thread.
<snip>
>Also, once my grandmother ordered something from some catalog... they
>changed the WH to SH in my last name... <g>
>

Then there was the time that I subscribed to a magazine before I got
married.  Never received anything; called them up to find out why and they
had thought it was a joke application to subscribe, with my maiden name of
Blank!

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In Adelaide, where I live there is a Lois Lane. I kid you not!

We also have a Cleo Lane!

Liz O
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At 11:51 PM -0500 1/8/99, Anne Carlson wrote:
>Although, it was kinda
>fun as a kid saying that my mother was "the" Nancy Drew that had all of the
>adventures in the mystery series.

LOL, that's cute.  I used to work with a woman named Sandy Drew, and
believe me, a great number of people would accidentally call her Nancy when
refering to her in conversation.  I guess sometimes our tongues work faster
than our brains! :)

>This is a fun TAN.

I agree.  I didn't know I was starting one, but I've enjoyed reading all
the posts!  This has been fun.

Kathy

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From:         Debby <debby@SWCP.COM>
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At 07:01 PM 1/8/1999 -0800, you wrote:
>>
>> In a message dated 99-01-08 17:50:18 EST, jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU
writes:
>>
>> << Oh, and one more surname story:  >>

I once had a dentist named Dr. Quiet

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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Debby wrote:
>I once had a dentist named Dr. Quiet

And I've had 2 doctors in the past - one named Dr. Payne and another named
Dr. Shotz.  ;)  They didn't work together though - I always thought that was
a shame.

Rhen
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Hey, I was just wondering if all you fellow fanfic-ers think that it's
strange
that we are all still obsessed with this one TV show that hasn't actually
been
on for almost 2 years.  I mean, I'm just obsessed as the next guy/girl, but
still, what other TV show has these kind of fans, all other shows that get
canceled are usually just forgotten about.  So, just out of curiousity do
you
think it's strange that we are all like this?

Kristen
Kristen036@aol.com
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Kristen said:

>Hey, I was just wondering if all you fellow fanfic-ers think that it's
strange
>that we are all still obsessed with this one TV show that hasn't actually
been
>on for almost 2 years.  I mean, I'm just obsessed as the next guy/girl, but
>still, what other TV show has these kind of fans, all other shows that get
>canceled are usually just forgotten about.  So, just out of curiousity do
you
>think it's strange that we are all like this?

Not at all. Beauty and the Beast has been gone from our TV screens for a
lot longer than two years, and I assure you that B&B fandom is thriving!
There are a lot of things L&C has in common with B&B, which may explain why
both continue to live on in the hearts of the fans. We're not crazy to be
so "obsessed" ...we just happen to know quality when we see it! :-)

Jackie
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YES. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

ROB

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>Hey, I was just wondering if all you fellow fanfic-ers think that it's
strange
>that we are all still obsessed with this one TV show that hasn't
actually been
>on for almost 2 years.  I mean, I'm just obsessed as the next guy/girl,
but
>still, what other TV show has these kind of fans, all other shows that
get
>canceled are usually just forgotten about.  So, just out of curiousity
do you
>think it's strange that we are all like this?
>
>Kristen
>Kristen036@aol.com

Are we strange?  Yep, but I'd much rather be strange than normal,
anyway.  It's more fun this way.  Are we the only fans who are still
obsessed after their show's been cancelled?  Nope.  Two words: Star
Trek.

Jessi
jessi914@hotmail.com

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<<
So I was thinking as I read this thread, Kent is a very common surname
and
probably in a mega city like Metropolis, there must be another Clark
Kent.
What if there was a mixup in the two -- perhaps with mail and then credit
card
stuff?  Perhaps something more serious -- Our Clark gets an important
letter
meant for the other or begins to get threatening calls,  or the
government
mixes the 2 up [taxes, or maybe the other Clark is an Illegal alien and
they
want to deport him or...]  I thought I would suggest it as a possible
story
line.  There's lots of snow outside and it's cold---a good time to write
[unless you ski til you drop].

Carol>>

Or what if the other CK got a letter delivered to him from ma and pa
Kent, and there was a referrence to CK=S?  Hmmm..........

-Jill aka AlienDove-
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The truth is nobody knows how long they've got.   Anyway, it's not years
that count, it's the moments.  Right now, as they happen." - Clark Kent
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"Ooo, a swing and a miss for the rookie."  "Good plan!  Let's go!
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Hey- on the subject of dentists-  I once had (at the same time) an
orthodontist named Dr. Learner and a dentist named Dr. Lesson <g>

-Jill aka AlienDove-
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Charge!"- Buffy in "What's My Line?" Part 2

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 10:07:39 -0600 renate <renate@MEDIAONE.NET> writes:
>Debby wrote:
>>I once had a dentist named Dr. Quiet
>
>
>And I've had 2 doctors in the past - one named Dr. Payne and another
>named
>Dr. Shotz.  ;)  They didn't work together though - I always thought
>that was
>a shame.
>
>Rhen
>
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Hey, sorry for posting something that is off topic, but this is something
that
has been running through my mind. Does anyone know if any FoLCs are planing
on
getting together to go to Cabaret in LA and purchase group tickets? It might
be worth checking into. I don't know about anyone else, but I am planning on
"just happening" to be in LA to visit family at the time, and the thought of
having a regular ticket price (tickets start at $40, but I would like good
seats) plus that of airfare...I wonder if I will be able to make it. If you
have any info, please e-mail me.

Jess~
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>Hey, I was just wondering if all you fellow fanfic-ers think that it's
strange
>that we are all still obsessed with this one TV show that hasn't actually
been
>on for almost 2 years.  I mean, I'm just obsessed as the next guy/girl, but
>still, what other TV show has these kind of fans, all other shows that get
>canceled are usually just forgotten about.  So, just out of curiousity do
you
>think it's strange that we are all like this?
>
>Kristen
>Kristen036@aol.com

Actually, I don't think it's unusual at all, Kristen. There are still active
fans for two SF/Fantasy shows this end of the Pond which have been gone for
over a decade: Blake's 7 and Robin of Sherwood. Conventions are still held,
fanzines written, websites abound. I can think of more thriving fandoms for
long cancelled shows consigned to the mists of TV archives in the US than I
could name here. The truth is quality and imagination never die. I've been
privileged to be taken to more worlds of the imagination than I can count in
20 years of my interest in TV SF/Fantasy and none of them have died in my
heart. That I'm not alone in remembering the Golden Ages gives me hope for
the world, to be honest.

LabRat :)
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Hi there

This names business has finally got me out...... I live in Norwich (UK),
and have done for over 40 years.

For about 10 years here, our City head of the 'Waste Disposal Department'
(dustbin men) was called *Ms Smellie* - I kid you not - his name was on the
doors of all the City's Dustbin vans!!!!

I can only assume that our UK leader - Dom - is off-list for a while, do I
will tell her favourite story on names; you can shoot me later, if you
want, but it's fully attributed to FlakeyDom.....

Dealing with a customer, she had difficulties in writing the delivery
address for an item - it produced such wonderful, delicious (nfic)
pictures!!  The street name was 'Kenton Lane' !!!

Jenny
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At 06:10 08/01/99 -0600, you wrote:
>I live on a street that on one end says Timberlake Wilderville Rd. and on
>the other says Wildersville Timberlake Rd.  Maybe it tries to tell people
>just exactly where they are going.  Hmph!
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jenny Stosser <jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU>
>To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
><LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
>Date: Saturday, January 09, 1999 8:49 PM
>Subject: Re: Tan: street names
>
>
>>At 09:38 PM 09/01/99 EST, No Name Available wrote:
>>>In a message dated 99-01-09 18:57:56 EST, brocks_babe@YAHOO.COM writes:
>>>
>>><< so one one end it is Putnam and on the
>>> other end it is Putman. >>
>>>
>>>Sounds like someone goofed and made a typo that stuck!!
>>>
>>>--Laurie
>>
>>There's a Blenheim/Blenhiem St near us.
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In a message dated 99-01-10 15:46:07 EST, you write:

<< Hey, sorry for posting something that is off topic, but this is something
that
 has been running through my mind. Does anyone know if any FoLCs are planing
on
 getting together to go to Cabaret in LA and purchase group tickets? It
might
 be worth checking into. I don't know about anyone else, but I am planning
on
 "just happening" to be in LA to visit family at the time, and the thought
of
 having a regular ticket price (tickets start at $40, but I would like good
 seats) plus that of airfare...I wonder if I will be able to make it. If you
 have any info, please e-mail me.>>

Hiya Jess =)

Just thought I would let you know that several of us are going on March
10th.....a couple of wonderful FoLCs got tickets this morning and that was
the
earliest they could get for what we wanted in group tickets......

The tickets are going much faster than most people thought they would and so
if you are going to get tickets - it is best to get them very very soon -
they
went on sale this morning....

Lots of luck to ya!

April
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I had to play that name game in Germany.  He rented videos and forgot to
return them, then I had to deal with the phone calls.  The best part was
when he was in charge of a very large truck that rolled down hill, hit a
helecopter that was waiting to be repaired, and I was the cop called to the
accident.  He got more than just a police report out of that one.  <G>
Maybe Clark's folks could try to call him and, not knowing they had a wrong
number, reveal some interesting things to questionable persons.  Hmm.
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><<
>So I was thinking as I read this thread, Kent is a very common surname
>and
>probably in a mega city like Metropolis, there must be another Clark
>Kent.
>What if there was a mixup in the two -- perhaps with mail and then credit
>card
>stuff?  Perhaps something more serious -- Our Clark gets an important
>letter
>meant for the other or begins to get threatening calls,  or the
>government
>mixes the 2 up [taxes, or maybe the other Clark is an Illegal alien and
>they
>want to deport him or...]  I thought I would suggest it as a possible
>story
>line.  There's lots of snow outside and it's cold---a good time to write
>[unless you ski til you drop].
>
>Carol>>
>
>Or what if the other CK got a letter delivered to him from ma and pa
>Kent, and there was a referrence to CK=S?  Hmmm..........
>
>-Jill aka AlienDove-
>AlienDove@juno.com
>my webpage: http://members.tripod.com/~AlienDove/index.html
>The truth is nobody knows how long they've got.   Anyway, it's not years
>that count, it's the moments.  Right now, as they happen." - Clark Kent
>in "Brutal Youth
>"Ooo, a swing and a miss for the rookie."  "Good plan!  Let's go!
>Charge!"- Buffy in "What's My Line?" Part 2
>
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Who are you calling obsessed?  Just because I record each episode of L&C,
watch each tape a few dozen times a week you think we're obsessed.  Okay
maybe we are.  Wow, what a concept... I have to think about this one.  But I
do have to put my vote in for RED DWARF.
By the way, is there a better search word for revelation stories in the
archive, other than "revelation"?
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>>Hey, I was just wondering if all you fellow fanfic-ers think that it's
>strange
>>that we are all still obsessed with this one TV show that hasn't actually
>been
>>on for almost 2 years.  I mean, I'm just obsessed as the next guy/girl,
but
>>still, what other TV show has these kind of fans, all other shows that get
>>canceled are usually just forgotten about.  So, just out of curiousity do
>you
>>think it's strange that we are all like this?
>>
>>Kristen
>>Kristen036@aol.com
>
>Actually, I don't think it's unusual at all, Kristen. There are still
active
>fans for two SF/Fantasy shows this end of the Pond which have been gone for
>over a decade: Blake's 7 and Robin of Sherwood. Conventions are still held,
>fanzines written, websites abound. I can think of more thriving fandoms for
>long cancelled shows consigned to the mists of TV archives in the US than I
>could name here. The truth is quality and imagination never die. I've been
>privileged to be taken to more worlds of the imagination than I can count
in
>20 years of my interest in TV SF/Fantasy and none of them have died in my
>heart. That I'm not alone in remembering the Golden Ages gives me hope for
>the world, to be honest.
>
>LabRat :)
>
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Well I guess I can join in to since this has been a fun thread.  My
maiden name (now my middle name too!) was Parker.  No one knew how to
pronounce Cassandra.  Was it Cas Sandra or Ca Saundra.  So I chose Cassy
for short, well then my name suddenly became Casey. Sheesh.  So it went
to CASS (IE) When people finally figured out that c*ASS*ie rhymed with
another unappealing word it was easy to tease me.  Especially when Parker
turned to PORKER.  Now it is simple: CASSIE NEIL short and easy, I could
stand that after years of teasing and mispronouncations..  Of course
people don't know what the heck my husband's name is.  Is he James, Jim,
or is he Neil. (actually he goes by Jon, his middle name). With a last
name that is also a 1st name people (you know people) can get easily
confused with something so complicated.  (HEHEHEHE)

CASSIE Parker NEIL and proud of all 3 names :)
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Unless I'm mistaken, there's a whole genre section of the archive
dedicated to revelations.  In fact, isn't there a Revelations 1 and
Revelations 2?  Just check out the search by Genre section :)
-Jill-
(hoping she's given good advice)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark: "Scherzavo.  Volevo solo vedere se lei capiva il mio italiano."
Commesso: "Capisce la parola *fuori*?"
Mark: "I was only kidding.  I wanted to see if you understood my
Italian."
Commesso: "Do you understand the word *out*?"

PS:
In my Italian book (Learn Italian The Fast and Fun Way), next to the word
for "to get dressed" is a man opening his shirt to reveal a red Superman
S on a blue tank top!   How COOL is that!?

On Sun, 10 Jan 1999 15:15:21 -0700 Desert Rat <desertrat@USWEST.NET>
writes:
>Who are you calling obsessed?  Just because I record each episode of
>L&C,
>watch each tape a few dozen times a week you think we're obsessed.
>Okay
>maybe we are.  Wow, what a concept... I have to think about this one.
>But I
>do have to put my vote in for RED DWARF.
>By the way, is there a better search word for revelation stories in
>the
>archive, other than "revelation"?
>-----Original Message-----
>From: LabRat <labrat@DIRCON.CO.UK>
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><LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
>Date: Sunday, January 10, 1999 2:18 PM
>Subject: Re: TV show
>
>
>>>Hey, I was just wondering if all you fellow fanfic-ers think that
>it's
>>strange
>>>that we are all still obsessed with this one TV show that hasn't
>actually
>>been
>>>on for almost 2 years.  I mean, I'm just obsessed as the next
>guy/girl,
>but
>>>still, what other TV show has these kind of fans, all other shows
>that get
>>>canceled are usually just forgotten about.  So, just out of
>curiousity do
>>you
>>>think it's strange that we are all like this?
>>>
>>>Kristen
>>>Kristen036@aol.com
>>
>>Actually, I don't think it's unusual at all, Kristen. There are still
>active
>>fans for two SF/Fantasy shows this end of the Pond which have been
>gone for
>>over a decade: Blake's 7 and Robin of Sherwood. Conventions are still
>held,
>>fanzines written, websites abound. I can think of more thriving
>fandoms for
>>long cancelled shows consigned to the mists of TV archives in the US
>than I
>>could name here. The truth is quality and imagination never die. I've
>been
>>privileged to be taken to more worlds of the imagination than I can
>count
>in
>>20 years of my interest in TV SF/Fantasy and none of them have died
>in my
>>heart. That I'm not alone in remembering the Golden Ages gives me
>hope for
>>the world, to be honest.
>>
>>LabRat :)
>>
>
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Obsessed huh? I might be a late convert to L&C but I think I'm quite
happy being obsessed! Think I had more fun now in my obsessed days then
I had before!

Oh yes, other shows do have a great following still....like Star
Trek...must confess, I have been a Trekkie for years...guess some shows
really touch the imagination of people and they just live on

Always have this private fantasy that someone out there will realise how
great L&C was and do a movie version, like they did for Star Trek!

Sue
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AMEN!!!

The Desert Rat,
Live Long and Prosper.

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>Obsessed huh? I might be a late convert to L&C but I think I'm quite
>happy being obsessed! Think I had more fun now in my obsessed days then
>I had before!
>
>Oh yes, other shows do have a great following still....like Star
>Trek...must confess, I have been a Trekkie for years...guess some shows
>really touch the imagination of people and they just live on
>
>Always have this private fantasy that someone out there will realise how
>great L&C was and do a movie version, like they did for Star Trek!
>
>Sue
>
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No Name Available wrote:

> >>But my favorites were Mrs. Fyfe the music teacher in my elementary
> school
> (she's still there, I think) and when I was in 1st grade the two 1st
> grade
> teachers were Mrs. Wolf and Mrs. Fox!>>

Thats cute!  Get this---when my mother was pregnant with my little
sister, her doctors name was Dr. Repair and the doc who shared his
office was Dr. Butcher!  I'm am dead serious!  You can even ask her if
you want!!!! :o)))

j-me
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Erin J Vance wrote:

> >>There is an intersection about 5 minutes from where I live that I
> just stumbled across
> one day.  It is an intersection between Dean Rd. and Clark Rd. (and
> the road
> sign makes me smile whenever I see it:) -- pretty significant, eh?<<

Well living on Maui, I'm afraid we don't have any street names as easy
to pronounce as Dean or Clark!  BUT...when they were having the
elections last year for council members, and everyone would put their
signs up along the road ways, one of the the persons names I would see
throughout the city was "Dain Kane"  a little different then Deans name
but it definitely gave me happy thoughts as I passed those signs every
time. ;-)  .....and actually the  "Kane" is probably pronounce different
like....Kah-nay.... but I preferred to pronounce it my own little way!!

j-meS8-)]
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Stefanie D Slifer wrote:

>
> >>My parents decided to be a little untraditional and name me
> "Stefanie,"
> with an "f" not a "ph." <<

Nobody will ever spell my name or my sisters name right without being
told how thanx to mom and dad!  they spelled the usual 'Jamie'
--"Jamee'  and my sisters name Kimberlee with those two ee's again
rather than and an 'ie'.  I just dont bother correcting anyone anymore!

> >>  But we get all sorts of different spelling on junk mail (Slicer,
> Slufer), and
> telemarketers. . .<<

ahhh, they can really butcher a name!  The worst I got was just couple
of months ago when I was calling information for my friends # Their last
name is Schniable.  the woman on the phone says "Snabgrass"?  I say "NO,
Sch...nia..ble..."  Whe say's "Snabgrass?!"  I had to spell it for her!
I really don't know where she got that out of Schniable?!

j-meeeeeeee
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In a message dated 99-01-10 19:12:54 EST, shore@MAUI.NET writes:

<< > >>  But we get all sorts of different spelling on junk mail (Slicer,
 > Slufer), and
 > telemarketers. . .<<

 ahhh, they can really butcher a name!  >>

Well, I discovered that Welcome Wagon had sold MY address & phone number
with
the name of Lewis Farber to a zillion places and I've been getting mail and
phone calls for this guy (my name is Laurie Farber and I'm in the phone book
as L Farber). When I got a call from a title company asking if Lewis and I
had
received the copy of the deed, I'd had it and I went to the county clerk's
office to check on our deed! No, his name wasn't on our deed (thank
goodness!)
but it seems a Lewis & Audrey Farber bought a house in ANOTHER village in
the
same county. So even if they picked the only L Farber in the phone book,
they
got the town wrong!  I got a copy of his deed and called both the title
company and his lawyer. Neither have gotten back to me about how this could
have happened... Meanwhile now everytime I get a marketing call I ask if
they
are looking for Lewis and they always say yes. I expain that this is NOT a
recently purchased home (good grief, I grew up here!) and Lewis doesn't even
live in this neighborhood and would they please tell whoever they purchased
the list from that they were sold incorrect information. :P

--L
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trish wrote:

> >>I like my surname because it is pretty unique where I live <<

I thought I had a very common last name being a "Jones"  until I moved
to Maui, I'm always being asked how to spell it and one lady who worked
at the office where you get state I.D.'s actually said to me
"Jones....that's a different name, where are you from?"  and she wasn't
teasing me either!

My husbands ancestors last name was really 'Branson'---I like that much
better.  But we are told that his great great (not sure how many
greats!) grandfather threw someone down a well and killed him so he
changed his name to Jones to hide from the 'law'!

A friend told me that when you get married, it is one time that you and
your husband can both change your last name for free.  Wonder if it's
true, and I wish I would've known!

j-meeejones.....who's sorry for posting so much, just got back from a
short trip, saw this fun thread and can't keep her mouth shut! ;)
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This thread finally brought me out of lurkdom along with several
others it seems. It has been fun to read.

My married name is a pretty common one--Martin--but before that I
spent a number of years as Sir. Yep---plain ole Sir. Not only did I
get a lot of strange looks as well as requests for the spelling but
the funniest were the times when I was asked for my last name. The men
always repeated the question as if I hadn't heard them. A number of
times I would finally have to say, "my last name *is* Sir."

Charlotte(who actually prefers ThreeD to any of the names because it
always calls Dean to mind)  :)
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Hello Everyone,

There is a new Featured Writer at the Writer's Showcase.  I am thrilled to
tell you he
is one of the best loved writers and also was the Executive Producer for the
series.
I hope you will drop by and read his interview.  I am very excited to bring
this to you.

The URL is.....
http://simplyorganized.simplenet.com/showcase.html

Annie Lansbury
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>> With a last
name that is also a 1st name people (you know people) can get easily
confused with something so complicated.  (HEHEHEHE) <<

And then some people make it deliberately confusing <g>  My husband's nam=
e
is Joseph Kelley Jernigan but even as a baby they called him Kelley.  The=
n
his mother had a daughter and named her Dominique -- called Nique (Nicky)=

for short.  So for all of their childhood, everyone thought *he* was Nick=
y
and *she* was Kelley...

And now that Nique has kids of her own, she's perpetuating the cycle <g> =

Her daughter is named Sami and her son will be named Chris...  This is wh=
y
*our* son is named Michael, a very boy-like name <g>

PJ ^^^^

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In a message dated 99-01-10 21:59:10 EST, jernigan@COMPUSERVE.COM writes:

<< This is why
 *our* son is named Michael, a very boy-like name <g> >>

Very clever, Pam <g>. But you should also know that it's the most common
boy's
name (at least in the U.S.). When we were scripting a show we do in schools,
I
said if we always use "Michael" we can guarantee that there will be at least
one in every group of 50-60 kids. Many years ago in a Catholic High School,
I
taught a class that had 3 Michael's and 4 Kathy's!!

--Laurie
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OK, how long has it been since the original Star Trek series was on the air
and it has just as many if not more "obsessed" fans as it did at the time it
aired....

Beckie
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At 2:56 PM -1000 1/10/99, Jamee Jones wrote:

>I thought I had a very common last name being a "Jones"  until I moved
>to Maui, I'm always being asked how to spell it and one lady who worked
>at the office where you get state I.D.'s actually said to me
>"Jones....that's a different name, where are you from?"  and she wasn't
>teasing me either!

LOLOL! And you just quirked an eyebrow and said "the mainland"? <g>

My husband's name is Jim, but of course it's listed as James in the phone
book.  Yeah, James Brown.  How many prank phone calls have we received over
the last several years? ;)  Once I got to declare victory though.  The
phone rang at 2 am with yet another drunk.  "Yo, is James Brown there? He's
my FAVORITE singer!!"  From somewhere out of my dream, came a response that
stunned him into silence:

"I'm sorry, they've moved. This is the Arnold Schwartzenager residence. Can
we help you?"

They never called back again. ;)

Kathy

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Fun thread!

My husband's name is Brian Love. Come to find out there's another Brian
Love in our area and he even had an account at the same bank! That
unnerved us. We had no problems, fortunately, and have since changed to a
bank that is closer to our home.

As for my maiden name, it's Artzberger. Actually, it's pronounced just
like it looks (ARTSburger), but the telemarketers could never get it
right. The name is German and supposedly means 'doctor of the hills'. I
got a lot of ribbing growing up-- one taunting male in elementary school
even started calling me 'Aardvark'! ;-)

As for my first name, I'm a Lynda with a 'y', and it's interesting how
many people forget that. People who have known me for years still write
my name with an 'i'. Geez....

My married name, Love, is a lot easier to sign than Artzberger-- I
definitely got a deal there. But still, you'd be surprised how many
people mishear my last name. I lot of people hear it as 'Lowe', so I
still have to spell it a lot. Or maybe it's just that they don't believe
that a person with the first name of Lynda could have a last name of
Love. :-)

Anyone have specialized license plates with their last name? It's a
quirky tradition in the Love family. There's LOVE1, LOVE2, LOVE'S, and
mine, which is RXLOVE.

Lynda

Lynda D. Love
(Rxiris@aol.com)
--"We're one, but we're not the same." --U2
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Do you want the entire history of Star Trek, the spin offs and everything
else?
Or was that a rhetorical question?

Rebecca Barber-Torroll wrote:

> OK, how long has it been since the original Star Trek series was on the
air
> and it has just as many if not more "obsessed" fans as it did at the time
it
> aired....
>
> Beckie
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From: Lansbury1@AOL.COM <Lansbury1@AOL.COM>
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Date: 11 January 1999 02:03
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>Hello Everyone,
>
>There is a new Featured Writer at the Writer's Showcase.  I am thrilled to
>tell you he
>is one of the best loved writers and also was the Executive Producer for
the
>series.
>I hope you will drop by and read his interview.  I am very excited to bring
>this to you.
>
>The URL is.....
>http://simplyorganized.simplenet.com/showcase.html
>
>Annie Lansbury

Well past time, I think to give kudos to Annie for consistently providing us
all with such marvelous insights into our favorite authors. This site has
become the highlight of my week (and boy did I miss it over the holiday
season!) as I delve into the psyches of the people who provide me with some
wonderful moments of fanfic. I can't wait to see who is next to appear. And
now.....just when you thought she couldn't improve on the idea, Annie takes
it to new heights and starts giving us a glimpse into the writers who gave
us our favorite couple's antics each week on the show.

Don't stop Annie! Thanks from this curious reader who loves to take a peek
behind the curtain and find out where and how the imagination takes flight.

LabRat :)
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>Fun thread!

I agree.  I just got back from semester break...and had 239 emails waiting
for me. I KNEW I forgot something.  But, I'm glad I forgot to go NO MAIL,
because of this thread.  I have a few quick ones to add to this.

My name is Sara (S-A-R-A, no H) Kraft (with a K).  I grimace when I see
Sarah Craft.  There are a lot of *clever* people out there who quickly
change the "C" that they wrote to a "K" whenever they are filling out forms.

My middle name is Ryan (a German family name) which got me quite a bit of
teasing in grade school because "That's a BOY's name!"

Even to this day, I'm known as Sara Kraft Macaroni and Cheese (and No, my
parents do not own the company, although I wish they did $$$$)

My best friend's name is Abeer Edward Abi-aad.  Abeer is Lebanese for
'scent of a rose' and as Lebanese culture has it, the children take their
father's name as their middle name.  Most people think she's joking when
she introduces herself.  As for roll call....most teachers are looking for
an Edward.

On Interstate 10 in Arizona, there is a sign for a town called
Jerome-Clarksville.  I smile every time I see it.

Sara Ryan Kraft Macaroni and Cheese (a.k.a. Cachotas, Max, Special K,
<nobody doesn't like> Sara Lee, and Sara Sue)
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Kristen wrote:

>Hey, I was just wondering if all you fellow fanfic-ers think that it's
strange
>zthat we are all still obsessed with this one TV show that hasn't actually
been
>on for almost 2 years.  I mean, I'm just obsessed as the next guy/girl, but
>still, what other TV show has these kind of fans, all other shows that get
>canceled are usually just forgotten about.  So, just out of curiousity do
you
>think it's strange that we are all like this?

>Kristen
>Kristen036@aol.com

Hi there, y'all!

OBSESSION

Being a recent FoLC myself (around 5 months - and that's recent compared to
a
      number of you guys out there) since

the show came to Portugal in 1998 (the show was televised before, but I
missed
      it), I guess I can't compare. But I can

honestly say that I will be obsessed by L&C forever... You see, this is not
the
      only TV show I'm obsessed with. I love

The Beauty And The Beast and I'm absolutely crazy for the X-Files. I'm also
an
      Elvis fan since I was 9 (I'm 28 now).

And I've been having so  much fun because I'm this way, that I really don't
      wanna change.

LOIS &CLARK ENDED IN PORTUGAL - PEOPLE COMPLAINED

Speaking of L&C again, though. Here the show ended at the beginning of
December.
      I knew how it was going to end

because of you, guys... because I have access to Internet, I have e-mail,
etc...
      and our media doesn't usually inform

people about these things. Anyway, I recently saw an article in one of our
main
      mags where they mentioned the amount

of people who wrote TVI (the tv channel televising the show) complaining for
      having ended televising the show before

it actually ended...! They were also complaining for them having replaced
L&C by
      Robocop. They don't like Robocop... I wonder

if the magazine will explain to these unfortunate people (they still believe
      there are more eps to be shown...) that the show was

cancelled and that's all they're gonna get. Lots of friends of mine started
      watching the show too influenced by me and I got

several phone calls asking when the next episode was going to be
televised...
      they all got *very* surprised to find out that

that was it. And disappointed, too.

SURNAMES - FUNNY RELATED THINGS

Now moving on to the surnames subject. I really had fun reading your posts
on
      this matter. I only regret I can't do the same.

I have *loads* of funy stories regarding names and surnames (starting with
my
      own name), but it's only funny in Portuguese.

You see, Portuguese people have a very specific and ironical sense of humor.
      They turn everything into a joke. You can't

imagine the jokes we have on Bill Cliton (poor man...!). And we love to turn
our
      own culture, habits, customs and names/surnames

into jokes, too. We also have very long names. I have four names and that's
      considered normal for us. But I know people with

seven and eight names and once I knew someone with 13 names...! And she
wasn't
      even descendant of royalty (our kings and

queens had very long names). Sometimes the names put together make a full
      sentence with meaning. Sometimes *very* funny

meanings come out of this. It's a pity I can't share some stories with you.
      They're all naughty   : )

MY OWN STORY

It's very common in my country to have names of animals, food and
professions.
      Animals like: Chicken (Galinha/Frango) and their little ones

(Pinto), Pig (Leitao), Cow (Vacas), Rabbit (Coelho), etc... Food like: Milk
      (Leite), Bread (Pao), Fish (Peixe), ect... And you can have two food

or animal names in a row. I know this sounds funny in English: "How are you,
Mr.
      Pig? And how's Mrs. Pig doing?"

My last two names are Pereira (Pear Tree) and Carvalho (Oak Tree). *But* my
very
      last name also means a nasty/dirty word

without the *v*. I mean, a *very* nasty word... you can't imagine the jokes
I
      was subject to, especially while I was growing up. Well, all right,
I'll
      tell

you what it means... tt means the male sex, but the nasty way, the nasty
word
      (s). And once, when I was at college and was doing my application,

 the secretary misspelled my name, not *that* way though, thank goodness
(she
      wrote Cavalho). But my Marketing teacher was calling our names

for the first time in his class and he stopped at my name, he raised his
      eyebrows and asked "Carvalho?" He was the only teacher doing this,
because

everyone knew it was a typo anyway. I just rolled my eyes and said, "Yeah,
it's
      misspelled, but it's Carvalho." (I did it on purpose) Everybody
started

laughing and asking how it was written and my teacher (poor guy) blushed a
lot.
      We were a class of around 70 girls and he always remembered my

name from that first day onwards and always smiled, looking at me.

Sorry for taking so much of your time and thanks for reading!

From: Celia Maria Pereira de Carvalho
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In a message dated 1/10/99 11:18:14 AM Central Standard Time,
Kristen036@AOL.COM writes:

<< Hey, I was just wondering if all you fellow fanfic-ers think that it's
strange
 that we are all still obsessed with this one TV show that hasn't actually
been
 on for almost 2 years.  I mean, I'm just obsessed as the next guy/girl, but
 still, what other TV show has these kind of fans, all other shows that get
 canceled are usually just forgotten about.  So, just out of curiousity do
you
 think it's strange that we are all like this? >>

Well, there's fandoms that have been around a long time like Star Trek,
which
has been mentioned by several people, though there is a worry currently that
Trek as a "franchise" is losing steam.  The original series didn't attract a
huge fandom until four or five years after it was canceled and brought back
in
syndicated reruns around 1973.  Then the movies started in the late 70s and
then TNG, DS9 and Voyager. The odd thing about TNG is that once the series
was
over, it started faltering as strictly a rerun product and started
disappearing from various markets or being shifted into the wee hours of the
morning.

That becomes the ultimate test of a show's longevity.  How well it can
maintain and attract a following once no more new episodes are made, or how
many people will continue watching the reruns repeatedly even though they've
seen them all.  It's one reason the original Trek had such an advantage
(that
and it was truly a character-driven show when such programs were rare)  VCRs
as a common piece of household equipment were over a decade away, and so
old-
timers like me watched the reruns over and over again because that was the
only way to see them.  When VCRs became common, some people tended to
collect
a series and then never watch the reruns again.  Especially if a series had
a
definite, or perhaps more correctly, a "finite" series-ending episode or
movie.  That is, all series eventually become history, but some can become
"living" history, the feeling that the characters are still out there having
adventures, making love, making babies, having a life, etc., while other
series become "dead" history because they slam the book closed with little
left to the imagination as to the characters' outcome.

Lastly, Celia Maria Pereira de Carvalho wrote:

>>>Sorry for taking so much of your time and thanks for reading!<<<<

Don't be sorry. I loved reading about viewers in Portugal. I also recently
heard from a fan in Israel where the show's reruns are starting up again.
It
gives me a warm and fuzzy global feeling ;)

Zoomway@aol.com (welcome to the fandom ;)
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At 09:11 PM 1/10/1999 +0000, you wrote:
>>....So, just out of curiousity do you
>>think it's strange that we are all like this?
>>
>>Kristen

Sure it's strange ;)  However, after it was canceled, the L&C
version of the Superman story became *ours*, All Ours.

So now it's even more fun to play with and recreate.

Has anyone been working on recreating lately?

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
who has been working on recreating lately
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In a message dated 99-01-11 00:40:00 EST, Rxiris@AOL.COM writes:

<< Lynda D. Love >>

And you have the dubious distinction of being LL which could mean that you
play some role in Clark Kent's life <g>.

I just saw an obituary in the paper this morning for a Selma Schoolman who
was
a teacher in a local district for over 30 years...

--Laurie
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I once knew of a Dr. Payne when I was in High School.  I think he was a
dentist.  Now *that's* more ironic than "a fly in some girl's chardonnay."
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> >> With a last
> name that is also a 1st name people (you know people) can get easily
> confused with something so complicated.  (HEHEHEHE) <<

Well, thankfully I've never been accused of being named Glenn...lol.
However, I can't count how many times teachers would call out Michael
Glenn when they read the roll, of course my dad's name is Michael Glenn.
And even more complicated apparently is spelling...I've had Mashell,
Mechelle, Michealle, Mishelle, Mischelle, Michell, Michele and many, many
more...

Michelle
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Hi All:
My turn...

Born Kristina Marie Kampmeyer (CampFire to all the people who wanted to poke
fun) married to Mr. Ralph W. de Castro. Computer mail constantly slams the
"de" and "Castro" parts together and then capitalize the d. I went from
being
a "person from the land" to a "person from the castle"! Cool trade, that
marrying up stuff.

Both of us come from "well-established on the American shores" families, and
neither one of us speaks very good Spanish, then add to that that we live on
Mantilla Ave, and the junk mailers,  etc. think I want to subscribe to the
"Musica Latina" club. Another rip/shred for the garbage can.

Mom's name is Christine (notice the C with an E, mine's a K with an A), and
Dad was in the military. Needless to say, the medical records got screwed up
more than once. In the fifth grade I broke my right leg (let Superman x-ray
ME!) but she got that put in her medical records, while I got her "female"
stuff put in mine!
Yikes!

Another point:
My husband's middle initial is W. His father is Ralph C. What confusion when
we live in the same town.

Marie,
ChoirGirl2@aol.com
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I was traveling up in the Carolinas, and noticed a batch of signs with
arrows:
"Clinton" went one way and "Normal" went the other way!

Marie,
ChoirGirl2@aol.com
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>>I have to spell it for people, and the phone solicitors *never*
pronounce it right (and honestly, it ain't that tough - just use all the
letters!), but I'm still happy with the trade :-)<<

I know what that's like, my last name is Slisz, go ahead and pronounce
that!  It's really simple, you say it like Liz with an S in front, but
most people try and put a t in there, or make the z silent and say it
Slis.  I have heard several really weird pronunciations, like Sliltz, or
shultz, and Sluts, and Slice.  I don't think that its hard, but then
again I have had it for 18 years.  My younger brother couldn't pronounce
it when he was little, he used to tell people his name was Joshy Todd
Flisz, but he grew up and knows his name now.  I have only met 3 people
who said it right the first time, two of my high school teachers, who
had my older sister first, and my best friend, who's last name is
Sleight, pronounced Slate.

Julie

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Oh, I almost forgot the most interesting and funny thing about my name,
well my mom's.  Her name is Becky Slisz, and for some odd reason we
started recieving mail for a Peggy Flisz.  Ok, sorry just had to get
that in, I love my last name though.

Julie

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>Well, the people who made the street signs for my street didn't even
know how to spell it.  At one end we're St. Claire and at the other
we're St. Clair!!<

That's ok, I used to live off of a street called Maebuni, for about a
year, we pronounced it "My Bunny" :) and sang the song from that
commercial for those of you who remember the toy (went along with kid
sister and my buddy dolls).  We lived there for a year before we found
out it was pronounced "May Boony," but we still sang the little song.

Julie

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>There's a Blenheim/Blenhiem St near us.<

There are three streets here in San Antonio, a  Blenheim Ave. Blenheim
Blvd. and a Blenhiem Blvd.  Three different streets, each on its own
side of town, forming a sort of triangle.  I always wondered what would
happen if there was a fire on one of them, and I asked my dad, he said
when he was little there was, and the firetrucks went to the wrong
street, hehe :) but hey, that's San Antonio for you.  Speaking of
streets, (now I'm on a roll) there is a street in San Antonio called St.
Mary's.  It's a nice normal street only its down town and it's split up
into about 5 different sections, you'll start out on St. Mary's and
after a few blocks you'll be on Frio, then a few more blocks you'll be
back on St. Mary's.  it does this all the time, see that section that
should be where Frio is is about 3 blocks over and parallel.

On the name subject, I think my parents made a big mistake naming all
four of us kids with j-names, Jennifer, Julie, Joshua, and Jared.  I
have been called all of those names, I'm Julie, but I'll be walking down
the hall and my mom will see me and ask Jared (who is outside playing)
to go get Josh, who is standing right next to her.  Josh is really
Jennifer.  It happens all the time, sometimes the make it really simple
and call us, J-kid 1 or 2 or whatever we are.

One more thing.  I was watching L&C with my dad the other day and it was
the second episode where his mom pulls out the S-sheild.  I have a
question about that.  Ok, what does the S stand for?  I know Lois made
it Super, but it came with him from Krypton, and he was Kalel of the
house of El, none of which even contain the letter s.

Julie~
who knows of a street that splits and one half goes completely around a
big circle and then back with the other half adding about 40 yards extra
to one side, whats in the circle?  a dead tree in a pot in the middle of
a rock garden~

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At 12:40 PM -0800 1/11/99, julie slisz wrote:
> Ok, what does the S stand for?  I know Lois made
>it Super, but it came with him from Krypton, and he was Kalel of the
>house of El, none of which even contain the letter s.

The 'S' is the Krypton symbol for "El".  The fact that it looks like an
English letter S is just a coincidence.

Kathy

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I really have been enjoying the latest thread.......
I am sure I have not sent this in - I think I did and it got sent back -
wrong address.........My maiden name is MUNRO - I have seen every
spelling - MUNRO/MUNROE/MONROE/MONRO
I traded that in for an Italian surname - MODOLO.  Now that is the fun
part.  People insist on adding their own things to it - an "n" to make
it Mondolo or an "a" to make it Modola - from Sicily.
My real name is Susan Joan, but I go by Sue.  Well, every once in a
while, some smart aleck wants to know why
As for streets, there is a section of Toronto here called Baby Point.
They have Baby Point Road, Baby Point Street, Baby Point Cresc, etc.
They are all connected.  Now that would be a fun day for the fire
department, etc.
Something I have always wondered - how did the New Kryptonians learn
English so fast?  I am sure they were only on Earth for about a month
before they contacted Clark........

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*Something I have always wondered - how did the New Kryptonians learn
English so fast?  I am sure they were only on Earth for about a month
before they contacted Clark...*

I think it has something to do with a combination of his photographic
memory and SUPER IQ.  A human with above average intelligence can learn (at
least) the basic rudiments of a foreign language in about a month.  A human
with a photographic memory could do it faster; therefore, a Krpytonian with
both a SUPER memory and a SUPER IQ should have no problem.  :)
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Greetings All --

My name happens to be exactly the same as that of a sex therapist here in
the area who treats juvenile-related sex offenders.  She is not listed in
the phone book (her practice is, but she isn't personally for obvious
reasons), so if people call directory assistance and ask for the name, they
get me.  You cannot imagine the calls I get from people who have "helpful
corrective suggestions" as to what we can do with these sex offenders!

Cheers,
The Other Nancy Nissen
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At 11:46 AM 11/01/99 PST, Julie Slisz wrote:
>I know what that's like, my last name is Slisz, go ahead and pronounce
>that!  It's really simple, you say it like Liz with an S in front, but
>most people try and put a t in there, or make the z silent and say it
>Slis.  I have heard several really weird pronunciations, like Sliltz, or
>shultz, and Sluts, and Slice.

I have relatives whose origins are from the town of Slutzk (pronounced
"sloots" to rhyme with book) in Russia somewhere, so their surname is
Slutzkin.  Pronounced "slut's kin".  Really nice that one!  Glad it's not
MY surname!
BTW, I would have been wrong, but I would have pronounced your surname as
Slish <G>
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****warning, Babbling Post Ahead*****

<Big Snipperdoodle on most of the very interesting comments Celia made>

<<< From: Celia Carvalho <carvalho@LEXMARK.COM>
 We also have very long names. I have four names and that's
       considered normal for us. >>>

Hi, Celia! I am *so* glad you mentioned this.  This is very true, I, for
example, who
am very happily called, simply Maggie to my folcy buddies (notice
two-syllables, easily pronounced, simple, simple), I, in reality (in
addition to creating legendary run-on sentences <g>) am in reality called:

are ya' ready? (somehow,  I *cannot* resist the urge to say, prepare to be
stunned.....)

Margarita Maria Lara Sabalones Lopez

aha. that's all me. As for the over-the-phone-thing, my last name is
S-as-in-sam-a-b-as-in-boy-a-L-o-N-e-s.  Now, where was I? Oh, yeah,
everyone on my mother's side of the family has a Maria somewhere.

My mother--Margarita Maria
My Aunts-- Maria Lina, Ana Maria
and my beloved grandfather who used to watch the old Superman
show with me afterschool----Jose Maria

Apparently it's very common in Latin Countries to do this, please don't ask
why, doesn't make sense to me either, but apparently it's a Catholic thing
<g>

(and in case you are wondering, my grandmother, who would give her right
ankle for a lovely little name like Maria, is called Tarsila
 --and yes, it's just as yucky sounding in English as it is in Spanish <g>)

So, anyway, back to yours truly, Cool trivia about my name is that the Lara
is for Dr. Shivago, my mother was in one of those wistful, longing moods
when she was doing the naming, see? *BUT* Lara is also the name of Clark's
Kryptonian mother, which is just another piece of evidence that
this Superman Obsession was meant to be!!!

Which very nicely brings me around to topic number two, The Obsession
Thing.
(don't you just love smooth transitions?? <g>)

Let it be known, that right after I got myself online I asked my mom
the very same question.  She works in Psychology, so I figured I
should find out her thoughts, plus she has this annoying little habit
of, like, *always* being right, so I always know if I'm on the right
track or not from her analysis.

Anyway, in her, uhm, Expert, yeah! opinion, this is a pretty healthy habit.
You are engaging in a positive experience, usually sharing with other
humans
(and forming human bonds is very good for your health, ogling at Dean seems
to be *verrrry* healthy to me, but whatever)
If you write fanfics, you are also expressing your creativity, this
usually leads you to express more creatively in other endeavors
and at the very least makes you feel good.  (now, I don't write
fanfics, however I spend much quality time on my Dean Thoughts <g>)
So, you get the idea.............

Now, I was just writing about this the other day, and feel like sharing,
My Cyber-Buddy Molly asked this question once:

When did you become a super, maniacal, obsessed FOLC?

To which I replied, in my Best Lois-Babble to date:

Maniacal?!?Obssessed!?!?Moi!?!?
Just because I read a fanfic everyday during my lunch hour, and my computer
is programmed with not one but two Superdesktop themes to choose from, and
I actually own a computer in the first place because when I found the
Archive in the computer at work I realized, one hour a day is just not
enough! Just because, I own the soundtrack, bought the books, made a
collage of my favorite pics, just because I downloaded an autographed
picture of Teri and Dean from Ebay and printed it and framed it and its the
only picture currently on my desk besides my beloved mommy, just because, I
think a re-run of L&C is better than most of what's on the air now.....
Does Not mean I am Maniacal, Obsessed etc. I could be suffering from an
acute case of Superman fixation combined with LCWS,  tinged with a bit of
Dean Worship, the doctors just aren't sure........They have yet to come up
with a scientific description of my ailment not to mention the fact they
believe its highly unlikely I will ever recover fully....They say all we
can do is wait and see....Watch a few more episodes, visit some websites,
read a fanfic and relax, they are sure, however, that no major damage will
be done to my immune system due to this affliction and repeated doses of
Dean actually seem to make my heart flutter healthily :)  :)  :)

And *that* is, without a doubt, more than enough
babble for one day!!!

Maggie
<just, Maggie <g>
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Laurie Farber wrote:
>> Very clever, Pam <g>. But you should also know that it's the most
common boy's name (at least in the U.S.). <<

Yes, Lewis, I knew that <g>  But what the heck, it's a nice solid
Anglo-Saxon name, and it works well with "Kelley" as a middle name, which=

was the biggest draw for me.  And everyone *should* know how to spell it.=
..
then again, until I chose it as a name, I always misspelled it Micheal <g=
>
so I guess you can't count on anything!

And speaking of names ... how did you choose your online handle/IRC
nick/AOL screen name?  Vip Mehta suggested "ChiefPam" for me because at t=
he
time, I was sysop-ing for the CompuServe FOLCs, whose conference room was=

"The Daily Planet" -- and if I were in charge of the Daily Planet,
obviously they ought to call me Chief <g>  It stuck because I'm too
lazy/uninspired to think up a new one... Anyone have an interesting story=

behind your nick?

PJ ^^^^
(which is short for Pam Jernigan =

but also for Pamela Jean -- my full initials are PJSJ)

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At 03:27 PM 1/11/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>At 12:40 PM -0800 1/11/99, julie slisz wrote:
>> Ok, what does the S stand for?  I know Lois made
>>it Super, but it came with him from Krypton, and he was Kalel of the
>>house of El, none of which even contain the letter s.
>
>
>The 'S' is the Krypton symbol for "El".  The fact that it looks like an
>English letter S is just a coincidence.
>Kathy

No, it stands for Dean's favorite food, spaghetti

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Ooh, my turn!

I have the most common spelling of an uncommon name, so while I never
had to be called by my middle initial like the Katies and Sara(h)s and
Michaels in my classes, no one could pronounce it correctly until a few
years ago, when it suddenly and inexplicably became popular. My high
school geometry teacher got it right on the first day of class and never
again afterwards. :-> Plus, I always have to be careful introducing
myself; unless I enunciate "I'm Alyssa" very clearly, people think my
name is Melissa. Just this weekend someone heard it as 'Lissy', which
I'd never had before, so the variations are apparently endless.

My favorite misspelling to date, though, is Alipsa, which is what
happens when I write my name too fast -- the y goes wide and runs into
the s, and, well, try it for yourself.

And my parents live in a neighborhood called River Bluff, where the
streets are all River Bluff Drive, Curve, Circle, etc. The only
exception is a Zion Circle that's tucked away somewhere in the back. I
love it; I can't tell if Zion was there first or if the city planners
just ran out of descriptives to tack on after 'River Bluff'.

And I haven't even mentioned my father's first name (Carmen) and how
perplexed people are by that...

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No Name Available wrote:
>
> In a message dated 99-01-08 17:50:18 EST, jenerator@OZEMAIL.COM.AU writes:
>
> << Oh, and one more surname story:  >>
>
> Well, I've had the occasion to return calls to a local 2nd grade teacher
named
> Ina Winer (pronounced whiner--and her first name has the "i" as in vine
not
> Gina). I'm told this is her married name.
>
> But my favorites were Mrs. Fyfe the music teacher in my elementary school
> (she's still there, I think) and when I was in 1st grade the two 1st grade
> teachers were Mrs. Wolf and Mrs. Fox!
>
> --L
The first time I took a phone call from Diana Prince (Ph.D. at a
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At 5:19 PM -0500 1/11/99, Joy N Sowell wrote:
>*Something I have always wondered - how did the New Kryptonians learn
>English so fast?  I am sure they were only on Earth for about a month
>before they contacted Clark...*
>
>
>I think it has something to do with a combination of his photographic
>memory and SUPER IQ.  A human with above average intelligence can learn (at
>least) the basic rudiments of a foreign language in about a month.  A human
>with a photographic memory could do it faster; therefore, a Krpytonian with
>both a SUPER memory and a SUPER IQ should have no problem.  :)

I don't think there is anything in the show that said that Clark (or any
other Kryptonian) had either a super memory OR a super IQ.  He was a very
bright guy, no doubt about it, but he did not have a super-human
intelligence that made those of us on Earth appear like dolts in
comparison. In fact, many people view Lois to be the "thinker" in their
(working) relationship.  She often seemed to have a better sense of what to
do in a crisis situation.

Personally, I think giving Clark super-human intelligence makes him less
appealing, and I'm glad they didn't go this way.  He's not a god; he's "a
regular guy, with doubts and insecurities .. and hat hair."  If Clark were
a god, I would find him much less interesting and sympathetic.

As for photographic memory, has that been implied in the show?  I remember
one case where Clark was looking for something (the 'fly' he made to go
fishing) and he had to hunt around, even though he'd just been looking at
it recently.  Clark certainly has a good eye -- he's able to pick up subtle
clues, such as a dropped movie ticket on the floor -- but I believe it's
more a matter of developing/using his talents well, as opposed to having
such innate mental abilities that everything comes easily to him.

So, how did Clark learn 347 different languages?  Good question. <g>  If
you take him literally, then it would mean that he most definitely has an
ear for languages and he's worked on developing those skills in his
travels. In this case, Kryptonians must have a natual genetic bend towards
picking up languages.   Or, you could say that he was exaggerating for
effect (and humor; he was trying to get a smile out of Lois when he said
it) and he knows a lot of languages but not 347 of them.

Or ... remember, just because he can order dinner in 347 languages doesn't
mean he's fluent in all of them.  "Ordering dinner" could be knowing the
words for "chicken" and "wine" in a variety of languages. <g>   This one
makes the most sense to me.

But now the stickler -- how did those NKers learn English so fast?  Hmm,
let's see.  Maybe ...

1) Zara and Ching learned it by being on Earth longer and studying before
they made the trip, then all the NKers 'picked their brains' telepathically.

2) Kryptonians are genetically able to pick up languages at the drop of a
hat.

3) Kryptonians spoke English all along. <bg>

4) Lord Nor stole the Universal Translator from a passing Federation
Starship. ;)

Any options I missed?

Kathy :)

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I used to frequent a Christian chatroom and used the handle SALTSHAKER.

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I just *knew* when I started posting January 1, this was gonna be a
babbling
year!! oh, well.

Here is where the fanfic meshes with the show and I start
getting foggy on which is which.

*Somewhere* there is a reference to the fact that Lois relied
on Clark's photographic memory instead of taking notes
for stories.  Now I've seen her take notes many times
so where I got that from I have no clue.  But it's now
in my brain and refuses to leave.

As for the English thing, I used to watch Days of our Lives
where among other shall we say....interesting, happenings,
kids go away to summer camp and come back
*decades* older, sooooo how do the Kryptonians know English?
Well, they just do.  That's how things work in my universe.
When the show was on, I was much more interested in getting rid of
that pesky Nor fellow, than in his Learning Ability <g>

However, one of the reasons I love both these lists is
getting down to the bottom of these burning
questions.  Among the things that now fascinate me, are
their magically moving apartments.  one floor today,
another floor tomorrow. *Why* they had to have the
 big-head guy on the last show???constantly
baffled by that one.  And like a Zillion other things
I won't bore you with now.  Hehe, gotta save some
babbling for later ;o)

Although truth be told, any discussion about
the NK arc, I consider a perfectly legitimate excuse
to ponder Dean in his Kal-El regalia.........

Maggie
who has still has some more pondering to do <g>
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Fascinating discussion on different names.  Having been saddled with
"Genevieve," which no one can spell *or* pronounce, I made sure my
daughters had simple names, thus:  Grace and Ruth.

However, turning this interesting thread to fanfic writing, I was
wondering -- how do you come up with the names of your original
characters in your stories?  A recent discussion on a Highlander
discussion list I'm on mentioned the joy of naming a villain after an
ex-boyfriend; joy augmented, I'm sure, by the fact that in Highlander,
villains generally get their heads cut off.

In my own stories, characters are frequently unnamed until the story is
half-finished.  Finally, I started picking themes or other literary
works and "borrowing" the names from them.  In one story ("Yet Each Man
Kills"), all the minor characters names have something to do with
Beatrix Potter.  Mind you, some of them are pretty obscure -- her
married name was Warne, for instance, and one of the characters is named
Beatrix Warne.  But I thought that other names would be rather obvious
-- Department stores named  MacGregors ("Don't go into Mr. MacGregor's
garden") and Benjamins (Benjamin Bunny), and minor characters named
"Jeremy Fisher" and "Miss Moffet" would give me away.  But no one seemed
to notice.

A lot of the names in "Paradise Lost" come from Frances Hodgsen
Burnett's "The Secret Garden" for no better reason than that one of my
daughters had gone to see the play, and had left the program by my
computer.

How do the rest of you come up with your characters' names?
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In a message dated 99-01-11 21:26:51 EST, jernigan@COMPUSERVE.COM writes:

<< Anyone have an interesting story
 behind your nick? >>

You sure you want to know this? My first time on IRC I was asked repeatedly
if
I was "GodsComic Laurie" and I finally started replying no, I was just
"ordinary Laurie" so when I can't get the nick "Laurie" I'm "OrdLaurie" so
you'll all know which Laurie I am <g>. Now we'll have to see if GodsComic is
on this list and will explain HER nick...

--Laurie (the one in NY)
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In a message dated 99-01-11 22:18:34 EST, kathyb@FGI.NET writes:

<<  In fact, many people view Lois to be the "thinker" in their
 (working) relationship.  She often seemed to have a better sense of what to
 do in a crisis situation. >>

Hmm, I think what Lois has is the ability to grasp ideas intuitively and
have
various disparate bits of information coalesce instantly in her mind. It's
an
ability that allows her to come up with the answers to a puzzle before
Clark,
though I think they are really matched well intelligence-wise.

--Laurie (the ordinary one)
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Kathy Brown wrote:
>
> At 5:19 PM -0500 1/11/99, Joy N Sowell wrote:
> >*Something I have always wondered - how did the New Kryptonians learn
> >English so fast?  I am sure they were only on Earth for about a month
> >before they contacted Clark...*
> >
> >
> >I think it has something to do with a combination of his photographic
> >memory and SUPER IQ.  A human with above average intelligence can learn
(at
> >least) the basic rudiments of a foreign language in about a month.  A
human
> >with a photographic memory could do it faster; therefore, a Krpytonian
with
> >both a SUPER memory and a SUPER IQ should have no problem.  :)
>
> I don't think there is anything in the show that said that Clark (or any
> other Kryptonian) had either a super memory OR a super IQ.  He was a very
> bright guy, no doubt about it, but he did not have a super-human
> intelligence that made those of us on Earth appear like dolts in
> comparison. In fact, many people view Lois to be the "thinker" in their
> (working) relationship.  She often seemed to have a better sense of what
to
> do in a crisis situation.
>
> Personally, I think giving Clark super-human intelligence makes him less
> appealing, and I'm glad they didn't go this way.  He's not a god; he's "a
> regular guy, with doubts and insecurities .. and hat hair."  If Clark were
> a god, I would find him much less interesting and sympathetic.
>
> As for photographic memory, has that been implied in the show?  I remember
> one case where Clark was looking for something (the 'fly' he made to go
> fishing) and he had to hunt around, even though he'd just been looking at
> it recently.  Clark certainly has a good eye -- he's able to pick up
subtle
> clues, such as a dropped movie ticket on the floor -- but I believe it's
> more a matter of developing/using his talents well, as opposed to having
> such innate mental abilities that everything comes easily to him.
>
> So, how did Clark learn 347 different languages?  Good question. <g>  If
> you take him literally, then it would mean that he most definitely has an
> ear for languages and he's worked on developing those skills in his
> travels. In this case, Kryptonians must have a natual genetic bend towards
> picking up languages.   Or, you could say that he was exaggerating for
> effect (and humor; he was trying to get a smile out of Lois when he said
> it) and he knows a lot of languages but not 347 of them.
>
> Or ... remember, just because he can order dinner in 347 languages doesn't
> mean he's fluent in all of them.  "Ordering dinner" could be knowing the
> words for "chicken" and "wine" in a variety of languages. <g>   This one
> makes the most sense to me.
>
> But now the stickler -- how did those NKers learn English so fast?  Hmm,
> let's see.  Maybe ...
>
> 1) Zara and Ching learned it by being on Earth longer and studying before
> they made the trip, then all the NKers 'picked their brains'
telepathically.
>
> 2) Kryptonians are genetically able to pick up languages at the drop of a
hat.
>
> 3) Kryptonians spoke English all along. <bg>
>
> 4) Lord Nor stole the Universal Translator from a passing Federation
> Starship. ;)
>
> Any options I missed?
>
> Kathy :)
>
> ______________________
> Kathy Brown
> kathyb@springnet1.com OR kathyb@fgi.net
> http://userweb.springnet1.com/kathyb/
> KathyB on IRC
> ______________________
I have had severl friends with photographic memory and then cannot
remember where they put things down at either.  One has TOTAL RECALL she
remembers what she hears as well as what she sees. It is a good thing
that she is discrete.  Talk about a whitness for a judicial case!  My
memory is just good enough to suffer major frustration when I can almost
remember something and not necessarily the ending to jokes either.

Jacqueline
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Debby wrote:
>
> At 03:27 PM 1/11/1999 -0600, you wrote:
> >At 12:40 PM -0800 1/11/99, julie slisz wrote:
> >> Ok, what does the S stand for?  I know Lois made
> >>it Super, but it came with him from Krypton, and he was Kalel of the
> >>house of El, none of which even contain the letter s.
> >
> >
> >The 'S' is the Krypton symbol for "El".  The fact that it looks like an
> >English letter S is just a coincidence.
> >Kathy
>
> No, it stands for Dean's favorite food, spaghetti
>
> Debby
> Debby@swcp.com
> ...or not
Don't you mean Clark Kent's favorite food.  Did you ever see the
vignette where all Superman wants is to spend a quiet evening at home
cooking spagetti.  It was on TV in the 50's or 60' on a variety show.
The person (forgot name) who wrote "This Could Be the Start of Someting
Big) was Superman.
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At 11:15 PM -0500 1/11/99, No Name Available wrote:
> It's an
>ability that allows her to come up with the answers to a puzzle before
Clark,
>though I think they are really matched well intelligence-wise.

I agree completely.  I think they are equally intelligent, and are both in
the top small-% of the population -- highly intelligent, but still within
"normal" human parameters, Lois and Clark *both*.

Kathy

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In a message dated 99-01-11 23:08:46 EST, nightsky@erols.com writes:

<<  But no one seemed
 to notice.

 A lot of the names in "Paradise Lost" come from Frances Hodgsen
 Burnett's "The Secret Garden" for no better reason than that one of my
 daughters had gone to see the play, and had left the program by my
 computer. >>

I loved that book!!!

No, I didn't notice in the stories either. I think it was a matter of being
out of context and that the names didn't jump out as being incredibly
unusual
in some way.

Last summer I met an 11 year old named Dartanion. I knew right away how to
pronounce it and where it was from. I noticed that my staff all asked him.
And
several years ago a young boy named Tristan was quite surprised that I got
his
name correct right away. Well, when young I was a great reader of all things
Arthurian...

--Laurie (who got to be Perry's assistant in Debby's Dawning)
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Well, I understand the obsession.  I have a teen-aged son who very seriously
said, "Ya know, Mom, they have support groups for people like you."

Speaking of names, my maiden name was Rose and my middle name was a surname,
so whenever I had to fill things out last name first, first name, then
middle
name, teachers would say, "Rose, didn't you understand the directions?
You're
supposed to put your last name first, not last."
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Hi all!

Genevieve wrote:

> However, turning this interesting thread to fanfic writing, I was
> wondering -- how do you come up with the names of your original
> characters in your stories?  A recent discussion on a Highlander
> discussion list I'm on mentioned the joy of naming a villain after an
> ex-boyfriend; joy augmented, I'm sure, by the fact that in Highlander,
> villains generally get their heads cut off.

Funny you should mention this, Genevieve, because I had just stumbled across
a book a week or so ago that was all about naming characters in stories!  I
thought, "How dull"  but when I leafed through it, I was fascinated!

It told about picking names that sounded different, like having the emphasis
on different parts of the name, like:  STEVEn   and   abDUL   , or having
one character named TY  and another named CHRISTOPHER.  The author was
suggesting that those slight differentials in pronunciations could be the
difference in helping a reader remember a character or getting halfway
through a story and having the reader go, "Now, who was this guy again?"
<g>

Anyway, the book sounded so helpful and great that I bought it, since I can
definitely use all the help and advice I can get.  <bg>

Hope that gets the thread ball rolling.  :)

Erin  :)
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Maggie wrote:

>However, one of the reasons I love both these lists is
>getting down to the bottom of these burning
>questions.

As a direct result of this and reading so many fanfics, I thought I was
armed and ready to answer any question about L&C.  Turns out that I can
hardly tell the difference between the actual episodes and fanfic.  I was
telling my friend (a non FoLC) about my favorite episode and later realized
that it was a fanfic.  I tend to think that the questions of Clark's 347
languages and photographic memory *were* answered in the episodes when in
reality, they were really only quelled in my mind by the first fanfic to
introduce them to me.  For example, I'd swear that Clark said he had a
photographic memory in one or more of the episodes, but that could have
been a fanfic.

Anyway...Just thought I'd mention it.

Sara
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At 09:30 PM 11/01/99 -0700, Erin Klingler wrote:
>It told about picking names that sounded different, like having the
emphasis
>on different parts of the name, like:  STEVEn   and   abDUL   , or having
>one character named TY  and another named CHRISTOPHER.  The author was
>suggesting that those slight differentials in pronunciations could be the
>difference in helping a reader remember a character or getting halfway
>through a story and having the reader go, "Now, who was this guy again?"
><g>
>
>Anyway, the book sounded so helpful and great that I bought it, since I can
>definitely use all the help and advice I can get.  <bg>
>
>Hope that gets the thread ball rolling.  :)

It's been a long time since I've written any fiction where I've had to come
up with names for characters, but as the work I'm currently doing involves
lots of data entry of names and addresses, I always keep an eye out for
interesting names that I could use for characters.  I have to say that the
MOST interesting name I've come across (and I don't think it was a company
name, but rather a person's name) was:
Hachette Flupacci.  I think I've spelled it right here, anyway.  It might
have been Hatchette... anyway... I can't help but wonder what sort of
parents would call their offspring by a name like that! <G>

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>Genevieve wrote:
>
>> However, turning this interesting thread to fanfic writing, I was
>> wondering -- how do you come up with the names of your original
>> characters in your stories?  A recent discussion on a Highlander
>> discussion list I'm on mentioned the joy of naming a villain after an
>> ex-boyfriend; joy augmented, I'm sure, by the fact that in Highlander,
>> villains generally get their heads cut off.
>
>
Years ago I read an instructional book that maintained you should always
give your characters outlandish names - the more outrageous the
better -because the reader would remember them more easily, and if you take
a look at some of the classics - even the more contemporary ones - you will
find that more than a few authors seem to have read the same text at some
point in their lives!

I find this a fairly reasonable baseline to follow in the main, although I
don't always use it. I tend to go looking among books, CD covers, magazines
for unusual names - the Detective in my latest nfic is called Gnass; I found
that in my Atlas of the USA. He was the Editor apparently. <g>. I mix and
match though and never use a complete name. If our Editor is Philip Gnass
then Detective Gnass is probably Bob.

I do that mostly because my *main* way to find character names 99.9% of the
time is to type them in blind as I compose the scene, almost on autopilot,
without consciously thinking it up at all - and I have a deep-rooted inbuilt
suspicion of anything that comes to mind *that* easily! I once named a
character that way and years later discovered the name in an old rerun of
Woody Allan's movie SLEEPERS. It's mentioned for precisely 2.3 seconds as an
aside! When I wrote that particular story I hadn't seen that movie in over
ten years. Strange what the memory holds on to. <g>

And then, of course, there are names so outlandish you figure they can't
possibly have roots anywhere else but your own tormented psyche. Lord alone
knows where Mandrake Helston, Excelsior insurance manager came from in my
CAPED FEAR! But I reckon the author of that long ago instructional text
would have been proud.......

What fascinates me more, I have to say, is how a character takes hold of
his/her name once its bestowed upon them and then refuses to let go of it. I
had two characters in CAPED FEAR - Joseph Andrews and Malcolm Gerrard. For
some reason, now lost in the mists of exercises in frustration (that's
fanfic writing to you), I decided at one point that these names needed
swapping in their introductory scene. Malcolm was clearly supposed to be a
Joseph. Hours of muttering later as I continually typed in the wrong name
for the wrong guy I finally had to accept the inevitable - Malcom just
didn't *want* to be called Joseph. To be honest, I had to agree with him.
It's fascinating how often a character comes to immediate life, his
personality, his hobbies, his prejudices and dislikes, his loves and
ambitions, all there on the page in an instant, as soon as you name him. And
how hard it is to alter that name once he's been 'christened'. I guess in
many ways to authors their characters are as real as the people they meet in
the street and just as hard to change once you get to know them.

LabRat :)
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Nancy wrote:
>
>My name happens to be exactly the same as that of a sex therapist here in
>the area who treats juvenile-related sex offenders.  She is not listed in
>the phone book (her practice is, but she isn't personally for obvious
>reasons), so if people call directory assistance and ask for the name, they
>get me.  You cannot imagine the calls I get from people who have "helpful
>corrective suggestions" as to what we can do with these sex offenders!
>
>Cheers,
>The Other Nancy Nissen

Yikes, Nancy!

LabRat (who had a more coherent response to this when she started typing,
but really could only think 'Yikes' several times, on reflection. <g>)
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Hi there again!

I guess I couldn't resist sending you some of my funny stories regardin=
g funny
surnames that make sense put together in Portuguese. I will translate t=
hem for
you so you can judge for yourself what some poor people around here suf=
fer
everyday for having such *strange* and *naugthy* names.

Here we go:

I know a lady whose last name was "Dores", which in English means Pain.=
 Then she
got married and her husband's surname was "Barriga", which means Belly.=

So, she became "Dores de Barriga", which, as you've figured out, means =
Belly
Pains...! I'd *never* add my husband's name after mine if this were to =
happen to
me!
There's a very old and famous family in Portugal, from the south of the=
 country,
whose last two surnames are "Margalhao Comprido", which translated mean=
s "Lond
Dick" - No kidding, I swear...! And it seems the reason for this was th=
ere was a
man in this family, many generations ago, who had... how shall I put it=
? A
physical part of his anatomy that was generously developed...!

And this one's really out of this world. My first job was at IBM when I=
 was 22
and just out of college. Imagine my surprise when I found out that I ha=
d a
co-worker whose last two surnames were "Penetra Murcho" - which transla=
ted means
something like "penetrate while soft/tender"...!!!!!   What a laugh! I =
thought
they were
kidding me, until I saw his name in the internal employees's list. I wo=
nder what
the story behind this name is...

Just out of curiosity, I have a co-worker whose name is Ana Barata. "Ba=
rata"
means Cockroach. How would you like to have that as a name? "Good morni=
ng, Mrs.
Cockroach." Believe me, it sounds as awful in English as it does in Por=
tuguese!
And my first boss at IBM was called Manuel Grilo. "Grilo" means "Cricke=
t". I
think this one's cute.

I have another co-worker, whose name is Nuno Veronica. His surname is a=
lso a
first name for a girl, as you know, and his first name can also be a su=
rname.
Around two months ago, this co-worker and another co-worker won a cruis=
e to the
Mauritius. I sent their names abroad to the people in charge for the
reservations on the boat and also the hotel. Somehow they put both my c=
olleagues
(the other one being a male, too) in the same bedroom, with a single be=
d and
outside, on the door, was written: "Mr. Rui Peres and Mrs. Veronica Nun=
o". Rui
found it very funny, but Nuno was mad...! Rui had to explain at the rec=
eption
that Mrs. Veronica Nuno was, in fact, a six foot five male and they did=
n't want
to share the same bed.  : =3D )

As for Places with funny names:

Nearby where I live there's a place called "Quinta da Parvo=EDce", whic=
h
translated means, "Farm of Sillyness". I wouldn't like to live in a pla=
ce with
this name.

Up in the north, close to my father's hometown, there are two villages =
located
in a mountain named "Coito de Cima" and "Coito de Baixo" - which means =
something
like "to have sex up in the mountain" or "down in the mountain"....!!!

Well, enough for now.

Stay tuned, though - you'll never know when I might remember more!

I hope I haven't offended anyone with these true stories. That's the Po=
rtuguese
spirit... good sense of humor above everything else!

Celia
carvalho@lexmark.com

=
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In a message dated 1/11/99 9:18:34 PM Central Standard Time, kathyb@FGI.NET
writes:

<< As for photographic memory, has that been implied in the show?  I
remember
 one case where Clark was looking for something (the 'fly' he made to go
 fishing) and he had to hunt around, even though he'd just been looking at
 it recently. >>

I do think it's implied in the series that Clark has a photographic memory,
but like a lot of people who have that talent, it seems to exist as
short-term
memory.  No one could ever remember every single detail of what they'd read,
seen or heard without their head exploding <g> However, when Clark was able
to
sketch a guy's image (Individual Responsibility) after only a brief
encounter
with him, it appeared Clark did have some form of photographic memory.  He
also sketched Mxyzptlk and Jefferson Cole (Dead Lois Walking, but was
looking
at the freeze frame image)

>>>just because he can order dinner in 347 languages doesn't
mean he's fluent in all of them.  "Ordering dinner" could be knowing the
words for "chicken" and "wine" in a variety of languages. <g>   This one
makes the most sense to me.<<<

Hmm, I *kind* of disagree ;)  Clark was able to translate Russian in Super
Mann, and though he couldn't read ancient Aramaic, he did know enough to
compare the look of the language to Hebrew.  However, even if Clark may have
a
short-term photographic memory or actually can understand and speak 347
languages fluently, I think it's his super speed-reading ability at work.
He
could probably go through the entire Encyclopedia Britannica in about five
minutes and retain most of what he read. How long that knowledge would stay
in
his head without reinforcement (rereading it) or if some elements were too
complex to comprehend without additional study in a given field, likely puts
Clark's intelligence on a par with most humans.  That is, whether it took me
one second to read an article or ten minutes, how much information in that
article stayed in my head would remain the same.

I think Clark is of average intelligence, but the luxury of reading and
comprehending information so quickly sure gives him a lot more time to read
and comprehend <g> Also, with languages, he might have been better at
reading
them than speaking them, or he could have been fluent in a few of the major
languages, but only have a knowledge of "greetings" and "ordering dinner" in
the others ;)  I also think he read up on things in a sense of "need to
know"
at the time. In the pilot, Clark knew about the crystallized ion particles
or
whatever in the space shuttle.  I think he researched the shuttle
specifications prior to interviewing Platt.  Especially since Platt's claim
was "sabotage". Clark probably wanted at least a working knowledge of the
shuttle to better follow Platt's comments, and also to save some time so
that
every technical term Platt came up with didn't have to be explained in great
detail.

One big reason Lois and Clark made such great partners, is that Clark was a
pragmatist.  He often looked for the "practical" reason or suspect behind a
crime or event.  Lois, on the other hand, was more concerned with human
motive
and style.  A good example of this kind of team work was in Wall of Sound.
The true technical ability to use sound as a weapon led Clark to Derrick
Camden, Lois, however, saw the razzle-dazzle flare and the "rock n roll"
showbiz quality of the stunts, and that led her to Lenny Stokes.  They were
*both* right.  Over the years they learned a lot from each other and
sometimes
reversed roles, but that "complement" quality to their work didn't change.

Okay, on to phone booths <g> The full-size, entirely enclosed phone booth is
a
rare thing to find these days. Sort of like drive-in theaters ;)  Most often
they're seen as movie props, like Whoopi Goldberg being drug away in one in
Jumpin' Jack Flash.

The three times I can remember a change from Clark to Superman in a phone
booth was in The Eyes Have it, When Irish Eyes Are Killing (Clark dials
Lois'
pager as Clark, but hangs up the phone as Superman) and in I've Got You
Under
My Skin where Woody Samms, inhabiting Clark's body, clumsily changes into
the
Superman costume.   I think first season is the only season Clark didn't
change in a phone booth, so a bathroom stall had to do ;)

Zoomway@aol.com
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 Zoomway writes: "Also, with languages, he might have been better at reading
them than speaking them, or he could have been fluent in a few of the major
languages, but only have a knowledge of "greetings" and "ordering dinner" in
the others ;)  I also think he read up on things in a sense of "need to
know"."

It seems like in "Just Say Noah" that Clark says, " I know a lot of
languages"
when he is looking at the page in Aramaic, so there is the implication that
he
knows quite a few beyond ordering dinner.  Given that he had supposedly been
traveling the world for about 4 years between college and arriving in
Metropolis, he probably had learned quite a few languages just in order to
survive.  Each language that you learn is easier than the one before.  Given
his basic character, he would have wanted to communicate with people in
their
own language too.

I agree that Clark does his basic research, but it's pretty obvious in many
episodes that both Lois and Clark, while maybe not geniuses, are definitely
well above average in intellect.

I do have one question.  In "Never Ending Battle" why does it take him so
long
to change clothes in the men's room?  The guy on the roof could have fallen
off before he got there.

Ann
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At 09:41 PM 1/11/1999 -0500, Genevieve wrote:
>....I was
>wondering -- how do you come up with the names of your original
>characters in your stories?

I was trying to do that one time. I didn't want to match any names I knew
about so as not to embarrass anyone. This isn't easy since on the internet
on mailing lists we can see hundreds of names every day.

Then I realized that the character I was making up wasn't a bad person or a
villain, so what would be so wrong about using a name readers might
possibly recognize even though it has been changed just a bit from the
person's real name?

Nothing's wrong with it :)

Indeed now occasionally people ask to be in my stories, and I ask if they
want to be a good person, a neutral person or a villain :) I've had one
person in twice now, under her real and her maiden names ;) Currently she's
in under her real name, having been introduced briefly and due for a repeat
performance sometime in the near future if I can buckle down and begin
writing again.

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
who would buckle down
but I've got to be at work in 1 hour, 45 minutes...
drat
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Ann (Aerm1@aol.com) wrote:

>I do have one question.  In "Never Ending Battle" why does it take him so
long
>to change clothes in the men's room?  The guy on the roof could have fallen
>off before he got there.

I really don't know the answer to this question. Some things sometimes don't
make much sense to the viewer. This is a problem of the people who wrote the
stories, I think.

Here's some more questions:

1) Why didn't Clark figured out that he was marrying to a clone instead of
Lois?
Why did he take so long to see that? I mean, Lois figured immediately out
that
it wasn't Superman kissing her when his clone did. I hated to see Clark
kissing
the "frog" without realizing it wasn't his Lois. I know he *is* more sensite
and
intelligent as that. Well, to be honest, I didn't like these eps much. And
the
episode when they actually married wasn't one of my favorites either. I
think
they could have done a better job with it, as Debby Stark did with her 5
alternate stories on this subject. You have to read it if  you haven't done
it
yet.

2) And another thing didn't felt/look very right in one of the episodes
where
Vixen character appeared (sorry, I don't remember which one rightnow!). It's
right at the beginning of the episode, and L&C are both sprawled on the
kitchen's floor after making love before breakfast. For what Lois lets us
know,
it was wonderful ("Oh Clark, if you only knew just how different you are
from
other men" - sorry if these weren't exactly her words). I know Supes can be
very
fast, but to have him fully clothed and ready to go to work after such a
moment
didn't look right to me. I think Clark should be less clothed on this scene
and
have his hair tousled and without his glasses. What do you think?

Celia
carvalho@lexmark.com
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On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:30:55 -0500 Farah Meitzen Chisham
<farah@CHISHAM.COM> wrote:

> BTW. My maiden name is Meitzen. (now my middle name) I traded it for
> Chisham. Perfect. same amount of tellers and sounds sort of the same.
> I think its an Irish name. From German to Irish. who knew.

Hi Farah!

I am Irish, and I've never heard of 'Chisham'; and in any case, it
doesn't have the right kind of structure or pronounciation to be an
Irish name. The -sham could quite easily be English, however; a
number of place names in England have this ending.

Wendy
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In a message dated 1/9/99 5:53:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, aliendove@JUNO.COM
writes:

<< drawing a
 blank on what last name would flow nicely with Gillian.  Hm...."Cain"
 seems to be the winner!  Uncanny how that works... ;-) >>

Thanks for the laugh.

Charlotte
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In a message dated 1/12/99 9:12:22 AM Eastern Standard Time,
carvalho@LEXMARK.COM writes:

<<
 1) Why didn't Clark figured out that he was marrying to a clone instead of
Lois?
 Why did he take so long to see that?  >>

I agree, although we do have to remember that even though Clark was a very
sensitive, thoughtful, caring guy, he was a guy.  I think they tend to see
what is obvious as opposed to the more obscure.  I've always hated that arc
too.  I can't make myself watch it except for the very last episode where
Lois
finally gets her memory back.  It's almost as if the producers or writers
wanted to kill the show.

As for the other episode ypu mention, I'm with you on that one too.  It
always
seemed unrealistic to me that she was half dressed and he was ready to leave
for work.

Ann
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> On Sat, 9 Jan 1999 14:30:55 -0500 Farah Meitzen Chisham
> <farah@CHISHAM.COM> wrote:
>
>
> > BTW. My maiden name is Meitzen. (now my middle name) I traded it for
> > Chisham. Perfect. same amount of tellers and sounds sort of the same.
> > I think its an Irish name. From German to Irish. who knew.
>
and Wendy Richards replied:

> I am Irish, and I've never heard of 'Chisham'; and in any case, it
> doesn't have the right kind of structure or pronounciation to be an
> Irish name. The -sham could quite easily be English, however; a
> number of place names in England have this ending.

Chisham could also be an English bastardization of a French name.
Then ending that is now -sham in English could have been -champ in
French which means "field".

Lisa M. Ramirez
lramirez@odu.edu

No experiment is ever a complete failure:  It can
always be used as a negative example.
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Great points!  But, when I mentioned the Super I.Q. I was alluding to the
fact that the chip that L&C found in"Through a Glass Darkly", had circuitry
at the atomic level, which obviously impressed Dr. Klein.  Now of course,
I'm not saying that ALL Kryptonians could do that, just like I certainly
couldn't do the things top human scientists can, but obviously Zara and/ or
Ching could.

I assumed the photographic memory thing from when Clark sped read Molly's
book in "Operation Blackout", and then could quote specifics.  The genetic
bend theory is a possibility, or perhaps Zara and/ or Ching just had a
natural propensity to learn languages.  Some people can learn languages
more easily, than others, while others are better in math, or science, or
whatever.
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Kathy wrote:

>I think they are equally intelligent, and are both in
>the top small-% of the population -- highly intelligent, but still within
>"normal" human parameters, Lois and Clark *both*.

You'd be suprised at the amazingly high IQs some 'normal' peole have -  my
work on cognitive ability (I'm a molecular geneticist) brings me into
contact with a particular bunch of kids that have no measurable IQ score,
because it is so high..we're talking top 0.1% so I'm not sure even Lois and
Clark would be that high.  Remember Smart Kids??!

Linzy
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I agree.  Lois has a lot of natural intelligence, and a lot of natural
"city girl" street sense.  That was the perfect match for Clark, also
intelligent, but more reserved, possibly from his "farmboy" upbringing.
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<***Here is where the fanfic meshes with the show and I start getting foggy
on which is which.  *Somewhere* there is a reference to the fact that Lois
relied
on Clark's photographic memory instead of taking notes
for stories.  Now I've seen her take notes many times
so where I got that from I have no clue.  But it's now
in my brain and refuses to leave.***>

     I seem to recall that as well.  Oh well, I guess I'll just have to
watch all the old episodes on videotape.  Shucks.  :)

<***As for the English thing, I used to watch Days of our Lives where among
other shall we ay....interesting, happenings, kids go away to summer camp
and come back
*decades* older, sooooo how do the Kryptonians know English?  Well, they
just do.  That's how things work in my universe.***>

     Yeah, funny how that worked.  Sammy went from being a kid to an older
teenager in such a short amount of time.  :)

<***When the show was on, I was much more interested in getting rid of that
pesky Nor fellow, than in his Learning Ability <g>***>

     True!!

<***Although truth be told, any discussion about the NK arc, I consider a
perfectly legitimate excuse to ponder Dean in his Kal-El
regalia.........***>

     Definitely More. Mmmmm.
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It was a good episode.  The kids were intelligent already, but only "SMART,
smart" after taking the metamide 5.  Wouldn't their usual IQ be measurable?
Besides, does anyone know how reliable those tests are anyway?  I'd be
interested in being retested.  :)
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On the subject of names, this thread has been really funny to read. :)

I just had to chime in on this one.  When my father had his dog, his
vet's name was Dr. Bone. :)

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At 6:24 AM -0500 1/12/99, The Zoomway wrote:

>he could have been fluent in a few of the major
>languages, but only have a knowledge of "greetings" and "ordering dinner"
in
>the others ;)

Thanks Zoom; this is exactly what I was trying to say, but didn't put it
nearly so succiently. <g>  I'd even go so far as to say that Clark was
fluent in *several* or *many* of the major languages.  But as for the 347,
I think once you hit the major languages, there are many dialects that kind
of fall into place.  Not all, of course, but many.

On vacation, my husband and I and another couple spent 2 weeks in Italy
several years ago.  None of us spoke a word of Italian, but 3 of us had
taken French in college and the other was semi-fluent in German.  We did
just fine, including greetings and ordering dinner. <g>  We certainly
couldn't read a newspaper, but when it came time to look at a menu, we
could pick out main categories, with only minor help from the Berlitz book
... "beef", "chicken", "fish", "salad".  Also, French was helpful when
getting directions ... it amazed us how we could understand directions in
Italian -- the major terms when combined with hand gestures -- by knowing
French.

Of course, then there was our friend who decided he must be genetically
programed to understand German because he was of German descent -- "Hey, I
understood that woman when she spoke German and I've never taken it!!"
"Todd, she said 'Vas is dat?'"   Oy. ;)

Kathh (who won't get into our reaction in one Italian restaurant when the
waitress encouraged us to get the "fish" ("fish, you'll like!") and then
put down a plate full of what looked like starfish in front of us. <g>
Actually, it turned out to be cuttlefish, which we had never heard of
before.  Once we got over our squeamishness and decided to try it, we all
agreed it was one of the best meals we'd had all vacation. :))

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Joy wrote:

>It was a good episode.  The kids were intelligent already, but only "SMART,
>smart" after taking the metamide 5.  Wouldn't their usual IQ be measurable?
>Besides, does anyone know how reliable those tests are anyway?  I'd be
>interested in being retested.  :)

There are quite a few IQ tests - how technical do you want me to get??
<vbg>
But the test-retest, and inter-test correlations are pretty good.  With
average IQ being 100, I'd only start being interested if these kids (or
you, Joy ;)  had an IQ of above 160.  I'll shut up now.

/me gets off hobby horse

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In a message dated 1/11/99 12:59:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
labrat@DIRCON.CO.UK writes:

<<
 Well past time, I think to give kudos to Annie for consistently providing
us
 all with such marvelous insights into our favorite authors. This site has
 become the highlight of my week (and boy did I miss it over the holiday
 season!) as I delve into the psyches of the people who provide me with some
 wonderful moments of fanfic. I can't wait to see who is next to appear. And
 now.....just when you thought she couldn't improve on the idea, Annie takes
 it to new heights and starts giving us a glimpse into the writers who gave
 us our favorite couple's antics each week on the show.

 Don't stop Annie! Thanks from this curious reader who loves to take a peek
 behind the curtain and find out where and how the imagination takes flight.

 LabRat :)

  >>

Thank you LabRat for the kind words. You are very sweet to say those things.
I am glad you have enjoyed my efforts.  To all the others who have emailed
me
telling me how much you like the Writer's Showcase, I want to thank each of
you publicly, too.
It is always good to know you all are going there and reading about each
Featured Writer.

I also, want to thank publicly Tim Minear and Brad Buckner for helping me
add
a new perspective to the Writer's Showcase by agreeing to be interviewed.
"Thank you Gentleman, if was a pleasure interviewing you."

Again, Thank you to all the people who have made the WS a success.

Sincerely,

Annie Lansbury :)
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I've been visiting http://www.babynames.com that's a pretty good site to
come up with first names :)

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The more technical, the better.  <vbg>  I was told that I was tested in
kindergarten, as part of the gifted and talented program, but I don't
remember taking any standardized test.  I was told I got a 185.  Is that
possible?  Besides, I like hobby horses, they're cute.  :)
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This is the first time I've written to the list.  Hi Everyone!!!
Stories on names . . .oh my!  First of all my first names Jocelyn,
it's pronounced JAW-SELL-IN.  You won't believe how many times it has
been mispelled.  My Grandmother's name is Kochersberger.  Actually,
it's spelled pretty simply.  But people always mispell it!  Then my
mother's second married name is Corvaia, pronounced CORE-VI-A.  She's
always getting wierd looks especially in our town (a little town in
the mountains of North Carolina), here everyone's last name is either
Dills, Shephard, Holland, Roper, Bates or Crisp.  I swear that's
everyone!
I knew someone in New Jersey who married a man with the same last name
as her own.  She always said she did it so she didn't have to change
the monogram on her towels.  There was also this strict Southern
Baptist girl who got married and her name became Scarlett Knight! <g>
Well, I've finished putting my two cents in!

~Jocelyn (a newbie- to the list definitely not Lois & Clark)Sigh!
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In a message dated 1/12/99 8:12:22 AM Central Standard Time,
carvalho@LEXMARK.COM writes:

<< Ann (Aerm1@aol.com) wrote:

 >I do have one question.  In "Never Ending Battle" why does it take him so
long
 >to change clothes in the men's room?  The guy on the roof could have
fallen
 >off before he got there.

 I really don't know the answer to this question. Some things sometimes
don't
 make much sense to the viewer. This is a problem of the people who wrote
the
 stories, I think. >>

Neverending Battle was supposed to air *before* Strange Visitor (Clark made
a
smooth change from Clark to Superman in that one even falling out of an
airplane) but there was a technical problem with a special effects scene in
Neverending Battle (Superman shooting Lex) and it had to be reshot. That's
why
Dean has three different cape attachment styles in that episode. Due to that
delay, Strange Visitor, where Clark seemed to have the hang of changing into
Superman, aired before Neverending Battle where he didn't seem to know
*what*
he was doing.  In some overseas markets, the airing order is corrected. I
wish
TNT would do the same.

The scene in the bathroom stall was for humor's sake, and to show that Clark
hadn't quite gotten the hang of making the change from Clark to Superman.
He
even seemed to carry the "suit" around in a gym bag.  I think after he saw
how
tough it was at first, he went out and practiced until he got it right so
that
next time he wouldn't be fumbling around trying to change clothes in a
conventional way.

>>>1) Why didn't Clark figured out that he was marrying to a clone instead
of
Lois?
Why did he take so long to see that? I mean, Lois figured immediately out
that
it wasn't Superman kissing her when his clone did. I hated to see Clark
kissing
the "frog" without realizing it wasn't his Lois. I know he *is* more sensite
and
intelligent as that.<<<

Um, Lois really didn't know from the kiss of Superman's clone that he wasn't
the real Superman despite what she said.  Again, often Lois was the butt of
the jokes first season, and there was an ironic humor in the idea that Lois
could swear that wasn't the real Superman because she'd kissed the real
Superman too and knew the difference.  The fact is, she'd kissed both Clark
and Superman before and couldn't tell they were the same guy <g>  I think
the
kiss was just the final payoff for Lois that the clone of Superman wasn't
the
real Superman when added to *everything* else about the clone that had made
her suspicious in the episode. "He smirked at me. Superman doesn't smirk."
The way the clone threw the fleeing suspect into the police van with no
regard
to the man's safety.  The kid-like way he snuck his arm around Lois with the
"stretching" excuse and told her she looked "really really hot", etc.

When you think about it, Clark was about the same way finding out that Lois
was a clone.  The *only* contact he had with the clone before the wedding
was
her walking up the aisle, repeating the vows Perry spoke, and placing the
ring
on Clark's finger. Why would he be suspicious of that, exactly?  It was
after
the wedding he became suspicious when he really got a chance to interact
with
her.  Even at that, the Lois clone seemed more like a person having an
anxiety
attack or a nervous breakdown. I'm afraid if my husband started acting
strangely, I'd check a lot of things off a list before I got to "he was
replaced by a clone" <g>  Then there was the woman surgically altered to
look
like Lois in Madame Ex, but Clark never interacted with her. He, like
everyone
else, initially thought Lois was having a serious emotional or psychological
problem.  I think it's just human nature to look for "horses" instead of
"zebras" ;)  That is, look for something a bit more common before you
consider
the ultra bizarre, even in Metropolis <g>

However, if you ever felt Lois or Clark took too long or needed too many
clues
to figure out they were dealing with an imposter version, you should check
out
the recent X-Files episode 'Dreamland'.  Like the L&C episode of two years
ago
(I've Got You Under My Skin), a body swap takes place.  In this case Mulder
is
swapped with a guy from Area 51.  This guy calls Scully by her first name
repeatedly, he wants cigarettes, and wants to obey the rules and be a model
FBI agent, he even has a "nooner" with a secretary. The *real* Mulder phones
her and tips her off, but *none* of this seemed to make Scully snap to the
fact that Mulder was an imposter, though it *did* make her wonder about his
"mental health".  Again, even in The X-Files, horses first, *then* zebras
<g>

>>>I think
they could have done a better job with it, as Debby Stark did with her 5
alternate stories on this subject. You have to read it if  you haven't done
it
yet.<<<<

Is that what the below excerpt is from, but in screenplay format that was
posted during the great wedding arc debate?

>>>Scene 14, in front of Reverend Perry: Clark hesitates before he kisses
"Lois"  but then clearly makes a valiant effort.
        Scene 24, at reception at Daily Planet: Clark - "Mom, there's
something
really<<<<

I wondered why he went ahead and married her if he was already clearly
suspicious, but I decided he wanted to hang onto the wedding gifts <g>
That's
why fanfic is great though. With no network saying "nope, you can't do this"
or actors saying "nope, I don't want to do this, change it", fanfic can
achieve things network television realistically never could and never will.

>>>>L&C are both sprawled on the
kitchen's floor after making love before breakfast. For what Lois lets us
know,
it was wonderful ("Oh Clark, if you only knew just how different you are
from
other men" - sorry if these weren't exactly her words). I know Supes can be
very
fast, but to have him fully clothed and ready to go to work after such a
moment
didn't look right to me. I think Clark should be less clothed on this scene
and
have his hair tousled and without his glasses. What do you think?<<<<

Boy, this is tough to answer in a PG rated fashion <g>  However, Lois was
wearing only a robe, so could have been totally naked underneath, and men's
trousers and underwear have an accessway in the front which precludes the
need
to undress at all ... if they're in  a hurry <g>

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In a message dated 1/12/99 10:31:17 AM Central Standard Time,
jsowell@METLIFE.COM writes:

<< Great points!  But, when I mentioned the Super I.Q. I was alluding to the
 fact that the chip that L&C found in"Through a Glass Darkly", had circuitry
 at the atomic level, which obviously impressed Dr. Klein.  Now of course,
 I'm not saying that ALL Kryptonians could do that, just like I certainly
 couldn't do the things top human scientists can, but obviously Zara and/ or
 Ching could. >>

An advanced technology is what the Kryptonians had.  They had faster than
light space travel even before Clark was born.  Their world could be a *lot*
older than Earth, and thus their people could have been around hundreds or
thousands of years longer than we have been, and could have been working
with
technology a lot longer.  Einstein, for example, would probably be impressed
even by a 386 with 25 MHz, and Windows 3.1 <g>  To George Washington, on the
other hand, a computer might look like "magic" (or voodoo ;), he might not
be
able to fathom it on any level (especially Windows 98 ;).  The Kryptonians
didn't have to be geniuses, they just had to be around longer messing with
technology ;)

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PROMO:  S6, Episode 4, "The Last Time I Saw Elvis"

Airing Sunday, January 17, 1999

________________

ANNOUNCER:  Next time on "Lois and Clark", Season 6 ...   Martha and
Jonathan
are ready to go to work as grandparents.  But will they regret returning
from
vacation?

*****

<< shot of the Daily Planet newsroom >>

"See," Lois hissed across the space that separated her desk from Clark's.

"See what?"

"Your mother.  Something happened last night."

"Yeah, my dad got mugged."

"Besides that.  Something else happened besides that."

*****

<< overhead shot of Lois Lane on the edge of a large crowd -- the crowd,
angry
and excited, is pushing toward a small group of demonstrators >>

Over at the opposite end of the melee, Lois spotted Martha Kent in the
middle
of an intense discussion with a tall, slender, grey-haired man.  Both
gestured
dramatically and Lois could tell, even from this distance, that Martha was
deeply involved in the argument.

*****

ANNOUNCER:  At least Lois and Clark can get back to work ...

*****

Lois started to jog over to the CEPL leader as he turned away from the LNN
news crew.  Calling over her shoulder, she shouted, "Clark, we have to find
out who he is.  We can't let LNN get this story."

She was restrained by a strong grip just above her elbow.  "Wait, Lois.
There's something wrong.  I hear something."

*****

ANNOUNCER:  while enjoying the comfort of family at night.

*****

<< shot of Lois, Clark, Martha, & Jonathan in the townhouse living room >>

"Jonathan, we didn't start the violence.  Are you saying I did the wrong
thing
that summer?"  Martha was angry now, her voice challenging him.

Clark watched, amazed at the sudden flare up between his parents.

****

"You're still beautiful, Martha Clark."  John Marshall looked over at Clark.
"Do you know how beautiful your mother was when we were back at Kansas
State?"

*****

ANNOUNCER: But will Martha's secret past endanger all of Metropolis?

*****

<< sound of a bomb exploding; shot of a night watchman lying on the ground,
bloodied. >>

<< overhead shot of a protest threatening to turn violent. >>

<< Shot of Lois being caught in a flashlight beam. >>

"Well, we have a complication."  The hazel eyes that stared at her
glittered.

*****

Join us on Sunday, January 17 for the next exiting episode of "Lois &
Clark",
Season 6.  "The Last Time I Saw Elvis", written by CCMalo.  Coming this
weekend to a monitor near you!

<http://tempus.simplenet.com/season6/ >

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>At 5:19 PM -0500 1/11/99, Joy N Sowell wrote:
>>*Something I have always wondered - how did the New Kryptonians learn
>>English so fast?  I am sure they were only on Earth for about a month
>>before they contacted Clark...*
>>
>>
>>I think it has something to do with a combination of his photographic
>>memory and SUPER IQ.  A human with above average intelligence can
learn (at
>>least) the basic rudiments of a foreign language in about a month.  A
human
>>with a photographic memory could do it faster; therefore, a Krpytonian
with
>>both a SUPER memory and a SUPER IQ should have no problem.  :)

>Kathy Brown said
>I don't think there is anything in the show that said that Clark (or
any
>other Kryptonian) had either a super memory OR a super IQ.  He was a
very
>bright guy, no doubt about it, but he did not have a super-human
>intelligence that made those of us on Earth appear like dolts in
>comparison.

Clark did learn a lot of different languages though.

>In fact, many people view Lois to be the "thinker" in their
>(working) relationship.  She often seemed to have a better sense of
>what to do in a crisis situation.

Their is a difference between a person who is good at assimilating
information and a person who is a "thinker."  Lois is street smart and
thinks on her feet.  Clark is more a fountain of information. which is
shown many times throughout the show.

>As for photographic memory, has that been implied in the show?

He was shown several times speed reading a book and having perfect
comprehension.

K.C.

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> >I do have one question.  In "Never Ending Battle" why does it take him so
>long
> >to change clothes in the men's room?  The guy on the roof could have
fallen
> >off before he got there.
>
> I really don't know the answer to this question. Some things sometimes
don't
> make much sense to the viewer. This is a problem of the people who wrote
the
> stories, I think. >>
>
>Neverending Battle was supposed to air *before* Strange Visitor (Clark made
a
>smooth change from Clark to Superman in that one even falling out of an
>airplane) but there was a technical problem with a special effects scene in
>Neverending Battle (Superman shooting Lex) and it had to be reshot. That's
why
>Dean has three different cape attachment styles in that episode. Due to
that
>delay, Strange Visitor, where Clark seemed to have the hang of changing
into
>Superman, aired before Neverending Battle where he didn't seem to know
*what*
>he was doing.  In some overseas markets, the airing order is corrected. I
wish
>TNT would do the same.

It certainly always has been this side of the Pond. I still manage to get
both episodes mixed up though thanks to the fact that the WB video
transposes the episode titles on the box.
>
>The scene in the bathroom stall was for humor's sake, and to show that
Clark
>hadn't quite gotten the hang of making the change from Clark to Superman.
He
>even seemed to carry the "suit" around in a gym bag.  I think after he saw
how
>tough it was at first, he went out and practiced until he got it right so
that
>next time he wouldn't be fumbling around trying to change clothes in a
>conventional way.

Sure he did! And - in an amazing piece of serendipity - Carla Humbert was
around at the time to record the event for us FoLCs. <g>
>
>>>>1) Why didn't Clark figured out that he was marrying to a clone instead
of
>Lois?
>Why did he take so long to see that? I mean, Lois figured immediately out
that
>it wasn't Superman kissing her when his clone did. I hated to see Clark
>kissing
>the "frog" without realizing it wasn't his Lois. I know he *is* more
sensite
>and
>intelligent as that.<<<
>
>Um, Lois really didn't know from the kiss of Superman's clone that he
wasn't
>the real Superman despite what she said.  Again, often Lois was the butt of
>the jokes first season, and there was an ironic humor in the idea that Lois
>could swear that wasn't the real Superman because she'd kissed the real
>Superman too and knew the difference.  The fact is, she'd kissed both Clark
>and Superman before and couldn't tell they were the same guy <g>  I think
the
>kiss was just the final payoff for Lois that the clone of Superman wasn't
the
>real Superman when added to *everything* else about the clone that had made
>her suspicious in the episode. "He smirked at me. Superman doesn't smirk."
>The way the clone threw the fleeing suspect into the police van with no
regard
>to the man's safety.  The kid-like way he snuck his arm around Lois with
the
>"stretching" excuse and told her she looked "really really hot", etc.
>
>When you think about it, Clark was about the same way finding out that Lois
>was a clone.  The *only* contact he had with the clone before the wedding
was
>her walking up the aisle, repeating the vows Perry spoke, and placing the
ring
>on Clark's finger. Why would he be suspicious of that, exactly?  It was
after
>the wedding he became suspicious when he really got a chance to interact
with
>her.  Even at that, the Lois clone seemed more like a person having an
anxiety
>attack or a nervous breakdown. I'm afraid if my husband started acting
>strangely, I'd check a lot of things off a list before I got to "he was
>replaced by a clone" <g>  Then there was the woman surgically altered to
look
>like Lois in Madame Ex, but Clark never interacted with her. He, like
everyone
>else, initially thought Lois was having a serious emotional or
psychological
>problem.  I think it's just human nature to look for "horses" instead of
>"zebras" ;)  That is, look for something a bit more common before you
consider
>the ultra bizarre, even in Metropolis <g>
>
For me, the biggest mystery about the arc was why Clark had to ask Perry if
Lois had ever written a secret novel. Every time I scream at the TV, "You
should know that!". I can't help it. But it did let Perry tell Clark an
amusing Lois ski-ing anecdote which I can just imagine and makes me laugh.

I think that the reason a lot of FoLCs have trouble with Clark failing to
discover the clone is the 'spiritual connection', the shared soul, between
them. That is one of the most interesting and telling moments in Debby
Stark's recreation of the arc for me when it is that which tips Clark off
immediately the clone starts down the aisle. If they were connected at such
a basic level, why didn't Clark feel *something* vibrate way down deep in
his soul? But then, I guess, there's no reason to assume that even a
spiritual connection would work at 100% efficiency 100% of the time - just
like the rest of the world. Maybe the batteries died. Maybe Lex set up a
spiritual dampening signal before the ceremony. Who knows?

And besides, I can forgive almost any lapse of judgement, reason, logic or
script writing in the arc as it provided me with some of my favorite moments
of the entire series that I would never have been without. I'm sorry. But I
was always perverse.

>Boy, this is tough to answer in a PG rated fashion <g>  However, Lois was
>wearing only a robe, so could have been totally naked underneath, and men's
>trousers and underwear have an accessway in the front which precludes the
need
>to undress at all ... if they're in  a hurry <g>
>
Oh well *done*, Zoom! Have you ever thought of entering the Diplomatic
Corps?

LabRat :)
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hi all!

<<Neverending Battle was supposed to air *before* Strange Visitor (Clark
made a smooth change from Clark to Superman in that one even falling out
of an airplane) but there was a technical problem with a special effects
scene in Neverending Battle (Superman shooting Lex) and it had to be
reshot. That's why Dean has three different cape attachment styles in
that episode. Due to that delay, Strange Visitor, where Clark seemed to
have the hang of changing into Superman, aired before Neverending Battle
where he didn't seem to know *what* he was doing.  In some overseas
markets, the airing order is corrected. I wish TNT would do the same.>>

Ok, this is mainly meant for Zoomway but I thouhgt everyone might be
interested so here goes:  where on earth do learn all these really neat
facts about L&C?

Ruth
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In a message dated 99-01-12 14:59:48 EST, jsowell@METLIFE.COM writes:

<<  I was told I got a 185. >>

They told you? My mom says I was tested in Kindergarten too, but I was never
told. Maybe it's better this way <g>.

--Laurie
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No Name Available wrote:
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> In a message dated 99-01-12 14:59:48 EST, jsowell@METLIFE.COM writes:
>
> <<  I was told I got a 185. >>
>
> They told you? My mom says I was tested in Kindergarten too, but I was
never
> told. Maybe it's better this way <g>.
>
> --Laurie

Me, too!  Mom told me she didn't think I should know -- I don't know if
that's good or bad <g>.  And in high school our entire psychology class was
required to take the Weschler (don't know if I spelled that right -- I never
saw it written out) Adult Intelligence Survey, which I only later learned
was an IQ test, but in any case they gave us no scores because they thought
that would be unhealthy.  All I remember is that I didn't know how far
France was but I could do one heck of a short-term memory dump.

-Emily (so why can't I remember anything *useful*?)

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Its quaint events were hammered out -- and now the tale is done,
And home we steer, a merry crew, beneath the setting sun." -Lewis Carroll
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OK, speaking of things that don't make sense...In DToSC, Jonathan Frakes
tells Sman & Lois that they'll talk about their feeding schedule later.
Always made me wonder (since there were no little tiny toilets in those
cages) about hygiene...or it would've gotten awfully messy in those nice,
neat cages...with Superman's cape spread out so beautifully. Also, it'd be
awfully hard to keep Superman confined *all* the time. They weren't very
smart villains, were they? (LOL)
Regina Ash
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Science, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from
magic.            -Arthur C. Clarke
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Whooaaaaa! I gotta read this!!!! This looks like it's gonna be good!!!

:c)

Audrey
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MXYED SIGNALS : Continued from part 2
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<Misha>

He and Jimmy, now dressed in flashy tights even more colorful than his own,
roared off in the BatMobile.

The scene change music flashed and Clark found himself standing in front of
the Cat's Paw Gaming House.

Inside, Lois shook her head and looked down at herself. "Oh, my god..." A
fluffy Persian, with more hair than body, walked across her lap, waving its
tail in her face. She watched in fascination as the fine white hairs
drifting
in its wake settled on her skintight black costume and then vanished.

"Hey, I wish I could get my suits to delint like that!"

"What'd you say, Catwoman?"

Lois purred involuntarily, then coughed in shock as Clark and Jimmy broke
the
door down. The cat-eared thugs hanging around her threw themselves bodily at
the two be-tighted boys.

Lois giggled at the huge THWACK! and BOP! signs that flew through the air
faster than the obviously telegraphed punches.

When they finally all lay groaning on the floor, she threw herself into
Clark's arms. "You know, this isn't so bad after all."

Clark returned her grin. "I think right now you look better in black than I
do."

Jimmy favored them both with a puzzled look. "Holy cats, Batman! Aren't you
going to arrest her?"

"Yeah! Sheesh! Let's move on!" Mxy waved his remote.

<CLICK!>

<SUPERfan>

Clark looked at the painting he was working on, trying to figure out what it
was supposed to be. The strains of the music distracted him, and he looked
away from his work.

Lois was lying on a bed nearby dressed in a long black dress. She ran her
hands over a bowl full of juicy green apples and tried to decide what she
was
doing.
What has Mixlerod zapped us into this time? she thought as the music got
louder and faster. All of a sudden, she got the feeling that she should
sing...

"I feel just like that painting
 Collecting dust on the wall,
 And everyday you walk right by me
 And don't know I'm there at all,
 And I can't think of one single reason
 why I should be hanging around..."

Clark turned to look at Lois while she sang. Mxyzptlk has zapped us into a
music video, he realized. Odd, I didn't know he was a Mindy McCready fan...

He grinned at Lois as she sang and acted out the words, looking clueless
about
what was going on.

"Maybe he'll notice her now
 Maybe he'll open his eyes
 Sometimes it takes somebody leavin'
 For a man to realize..."

Clark wanted to get a message to Lois without interrupting the song. He
thought a moment then picked up his paintbrush.

Intrigued by his actions, Lois started to adlib the lyrics to the song...

"Maybe he'll pay attention since she left...
 He ignored her while she was here...
 I don't like myself as a blonde...
 I mean, maybe he'll notice her now..."

Clark laughed as Lois fumbled over the song.

"Maybe he'll notice her now
 Maybe he'll open his eyes
Sometimes it takes somebody leavin'..."

What, this is a country song? An idea flashed through Lois' mind.

Clark caught Lois' eye and they both started digging through drawers as the
MAYBE HE'LL NOTICE HER NOW video played on.

"Gotcha," Lois whispered as she pulled out the CD player. Clark pressed
'play'
and they both settled down, content to let the CD do the work.

Lois and Clark moved closer and started kissing. "I like this channel the
best," Lois whispered.

<CLICK!>

<AMCiotola>

"Peter, I'll take Dane Staff and Shari Brooden for the block." A middle-aged
woman sitting on a platform pointed to the upper left hand corner of a large
three by three block of squares. The very same corner square that was now
occupied by Lois and Clark.

Lois looked out into the bright lights and saw a room full of people and
what
looked like a studio of some sort. There were  a few TV cameras, two of
which
were pointed in her direction. Turning to her right, she found Clark, sans
glasses, sitting next to her and immediately grabbed for his arm.

"Clark, we're in a game show?!?" she whispered.

"Seems like that to me, honey. It looks like that new HOLLYWOOD SQUARES."

Clark gave a glance around as well. There were a few TV stars he vaguely
remembered, but they were all staring in their direction.

"Ok, Dane and Shari, this should be an easy one for you to score an 'X' for
the block. What are four of Superman's ... "

<CLICK!>

Before the host could finish his question, Lois' world transformed once
again
as she found herself sitting next to a bathtub with ... a rubber duckie in
her
hand?!?!

A voiceover boomed "It pays to Discover ... "

<CLICK!>

<Mackteach>

Lois undulated in a miniskirt and go-go boots. "Kiss my bippy," she said to
Clark who was dancing beside her dressed in the suit and muttering "Sock it
to
me?"

"Your *bippy*? Lois! We're in public!"

She eyed him coyly.  "Well, if you kiss my bippy, I'll sock it to you ..."
Her
finger traced an S on his chest.

"Verrrry interesting," Mxy muttered.  "But not what I want."

<AMCiotola>

<CLICK!>

The scenery changed again. This time Clark was sitting out in the blazing
sun
on a construction site. He glanced down to see a can of diet cola in one
hand
and his shirt in the other.

Using his enhanced vision, he spied around for Lois, finally spotting her a
few floors up in a building across the street. She seemed to be enjoying the
view. So were the group of ladies huddled around the window with her,
literally drooling in his direction. He started across the street and ...

<CLICK!>

<Mackteach>

...almost tripped over a footstool.

He levitated over the object and eyed Lois appreciatively. "Y'know, honey
...
I never noticed how great you look in slacks before."

"That's because I never wore capri pants before.  Ohhh Claark! I'm even
wearing those black flat shoes!"

A tall bald man came through the swinging doors into the living room.

"My god, Clark, it's Lex!"

"That's impossible, honey. Lex is dead."

"This is TV. No one is ever really dead," Mxy said with glee.

<CLICK!>

The living room and the bald man disappeared.

Clark looked down at the blue varsity letterman's sweater he was wearing.
"Oh
boy," he murmured.

He looked up as Lois walked in wearing the straight skirt of the 60's topped
by a red sweater twin set that showed off her assets quite well.  Suddenly,
a
phrase popped into his head.  "I found my thrill ..." he sang.

Lois stared at the jukebox, not sure which song to select.  Clark leaned
against it, taking in Lois' pursed lips.  He straightened the front of his
black leather jacket he was now wearing.

"Allow me."  He stared into her brown eyes as she stepped aside, a look of
pure worship and adoration in her eyes.  Standing in front of the jukebox,
he
stared at it and then suddenly hit it with his fist. The jukebox shattered
into a pile of plastic and chrome.

"Oh, Clark!"

<CLICK!>

Lois stared at Clark, taking in the rainbow-striped suspenders over the
striped shirt and the black Converse sneakers.  "Shazbat!" she muttered.

Clark looked at Lois, her brown hair in twin ponytails with bangs to just
above her eyes.  "And a nanu-nanu to you too, honey."

<CLICK!>

<Misha>

"Clark, what are you doing with those toothpicks?"

"I'm using them to construct a catapult to hurl sandbags at the bad guys who
are shooting at us."

"Couldn't you just throw them?"

"Well, yes, but then I wouldn't get to build a catapult out of toothpicks."

<CLICK!>

Lois looked up at Clark, once again in his familiar suit, and smiled. Even
with the tights and the super-serious stance, Clark looked like a kid with
his
hand caught in the cookie jar. She reached up and kissed away the lingering
traces of his milk mustache.

Mxy's voice shrilled, "You're ruining it!"

The channel changed once again as they heard Mxy complaining about the
commercials.

<CLICK!>

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<CLICK!>

<zoomway>

Clark blinked a couple of times. He couldn't move, yet he *was* moving. It
didn't take him long to figure out he was on a slowly spinning platform.  At
least he was able to speak.

"Lois?"

"Down here," Lois said angrily.  She was kneeling at Clark's feet, her head
poised and frozen, looking up at Clark who was dressed as Superman. Her
hands
were also frozen in place, one on Clark's red boot, and the other higher up,
just above his knee on his inner thigh.

The platform suddenly stopped spinning and Mxyzptlk strode out wearing an
oversized, sponge rubber cowboy hat.

"Friends!" he shouted to a television camera. "Tired of your old
gas-guzzler?
Then come to Mister Mxyzptlk's big Garage of Savings!"  He floated until he
was chest level with Clark. "Check out the all new Super 8!" he said,
smacking
Clark in the chest with a pointer.

"If I ever get my hands on you," Clark growled.

"Listen to that engine purr!"

"Mxyzptlk!" Lois hissed through clenched teeth. "If you don't stop this
right
now --"

Mxyzptlk moved his pointer to Lois. "Ever experience annoying interior
noise,
guys?" he asked the camera, then produced a scarf with the Superman emblem.
"No problem! The Super 8 comes with a muffler. It fits right over *her*
mouth." With a flick of his wrist, Lois was gagged.

Clark sighed loudly and rolled his eyes at the old joke. Mxyzptlk
materialized
an elaborate metering device and held it next to Clark's mouth. "Talk about
clean emissions! Unfortunately," he shrugged, "the Super 8 has *dual*
exhaust,
so you don't wanna take him for a spin on burrito night."

"Enough!" Clark shouted.

"Guys, check out that grill work!" Mxyzptlk passed a hand in front of
Clark's
face and Clark's lips curled into an exaggerated grin.  "If there's a woman
in
this dimension who can resist such beautiful grill work," he extolled, "she
must be a date ya dug up in the cemetery! Not that some of you three-
dimensional guys aren't capable of that!"

Mxyzptlk hopped down from the platform. "Other features include two-on-the-
floor, one-in-the-sky, Man-of-Steel frame, overhead suspension of disbelief,
and beautiful upholstery in any color combination you want ... uh ... as
long
as it's blue, red and yellow. And oh!" Mxyzptlk added enthusiastically.
"Check
out the seat belt!"

He hit Clark's belt with the pointer which caused the belt to spring open
and
his red briefs to fall. A black square suddenly appeared with the word
"Censored" superimposed over it.  Mxyzptlk glowed bright red. "Oops!" he
said
and aimed a small box at Clark. He pushed a button. *Bweep ... bweep*.  "It
also comes with a locking remote security system."

The device fortunately restored Clark's belt and briefs, but when Mxyzptlk
hopped back onto the platform, a mechanical voice intoned, "Please step away
>from the super hero. You are standing too close to the super hero."

"So come on down to Mister Mxyzptlk's Garage of Savings!" he said and knelt
next to Lois, whose hands were still frozen to Clark. "Once you get your
hands
on a Kryptonian, you'll *never* let go!"

<CLICK!>

<AMCiotola>

Now they found themselves in a coffee-house surrounded by a few other people
sitting on a couch near-by.

"Clark, where are we now?"

"I don't know, honey, but maybe he's getting bored? Those last few went by
so
fast."

Afraid to look around, Lois did so anyway. The place seemed relatively
harmless and the people around them didn't appear to really notice them.
They
were all intent on the blonde singing off key up near the front window.

"FRIENDS. That's where we are." Lois was sure of it. She turned toward her
husband. "Clark, we need to figure a way out of this."

"I know. How is he doing all this? Even with his magic, there has to be a
key
to it."

Thinking back to when Mxyzptlk first appeared in their living room, Clark
recalled something. "Lois, do you remember what he was holding in his hands
when he first zapped us to TV Land?

"A tub of popcorn?"

Clark gave Lois 'that look'.

"What?"

"Besides that. He was holding a remote, much like ours."

"That's right, Super-boy-scout. The remote is the key, but you hafta catch
me,
first." Mxy's voice boomed from above as the scene changed yet again.

<CLICK!>

<Eraygun>

Lois and Clark were still sitting on a couch but it was no longer located in
Central Perk, but rather in the comfortable living room of a suburban home.

Clark rolled his eyes. "Sheesh, I really hate magic."

"What did I tell you, daughter?! It's so typical of that petty mortal
attitude."

Both turned around and there, hovering in the air a few feet from them, was
Ellen Lane, dressed in something that looked a great deal like a nightgown
with a cape. At least the person hovering looked like Ellen, but her red
hair
and haughty attitude plus the fact that she was floating in the air
immediately made Clark think of someone else.

"Endora!" he said as he leaped from the couch. "You're *Endora*."

"Oh, we are bright today, Durwood."

Ellen/Endora gave a theatrical wave of her hand and a giant martini appeared
out of thin air.

"Mother!?" Lois exclaimed.

"What?"

"Oh, nothing at all," Clark interjected lamely. "*Sam* was just wondering if
you'd like an olive to go with that, Endora." Lois goggled at Clark. "We'll
just go out into the kitchen and get you some. You wait right here and make
yourself comfortable," he added, giving her his most winning smile.

"Why, Dobbin, it appears I may have misjudged you," Ellen/Endora replied
smugly.

Clark hustled Lois into the kitchen.

"Clark why did you do that? You know my mother shouldn't drink..."

"Honey, she's a witch --"

"Clark, I know my mother hasn't always been nice to you, but really --"

"Lois, that's not what I mean. Didn't you ever watch reruns of BEWITCHED?"

"Actually, I liked 'I Dream of Jeannie' better. She could shrink, that was
almost as cool as being invisible and I liked her costume even if you
couldn't
see her navel--I liked it so much I got one of those harem outfits of my
own,
and -- "

Clark smile was reminiscent. "Yeah, I know, honey, and you looked fantastic
in
it, too, but never mind that now. The point is that if your mother is a
broom-
riding caldron-stirring witch ..."

"Then, so am I!" Lois said with a huge grin.

"Right."

"And if we can lure Mxy out into the open, maybe we can fight magic with
magic
and get the remote that way."

Clark nodded.

"I sort of love that," Lois added with a wicked grin.

Lois grabbed a bottle of olives from the counter and she and Clark quickly
returned to the living room.

"Mother," she asked sweetly, "do you know any spells that would conjure up
imps?"

"Certainly, my dear, but why would you want to cavort with such lower class,
common types? They're almost as annoying as mortals," Ellen/Endora replied
with a pointed glance at Clark.

"It's important, Mother. Please."

"Well, all right, if you insist."

Ellen/Endora raised her hands and began a rhythmic chant. Suddenly she was
frozen in space as though someone had pressed the pause button on a VCR.

There was a blinding flash of light and Mxy appeared. "Very clever. I have
to
give you two credit, you're smarter than you look."

"Why, you-"

"Temper, temper, Fly-boy. Let's see if you can think your way out of this."

<CLICK!>

<Lansbury>

In the wink of an eye Lois and Clark found themselves standing in the middle
of a hospital emergency room.  Doctors and nurses were hurrying around them,
shouting out orders as ambulance after ambulance brought in victims of a
multi-car pileup.

Clark pulled Lois out of the way as two people in uniform wheeled a gurney
towards them at top speed.

"Someone get Doug.  This kid is going sour fast."

Clark heard Lois' intake of breath as George Clooney in the persona of Dr.
Doug Ross pushed pass them.  "Clark, did you see who that was?.  My word,
he's
as handsome in person as he is on ER."

"If you say so, but I don't see it myself.  He looks just like a regular guy
to me."

She winked at him, "That's because you don't have high levels of estrogen
flowing in your blood."

Moving away from the action around them, Lois and Clark stepped inside a
small
supply room.  Through the window in the door Clark could see into the trauma
room as the doctors and nurses worked on the small child lying on the table.

"You know, honey, if I didn't know better, these actors could be the real
thing.  They make it all look real and believable. ER is one of the most
popular series on television.  I guess they didn't win all their awards for
a
slipshod show."

Lois' hand found its way to Clark's face.  She lovingly touched his lips to
quiet him. "Clark, we have to find a way out of this mess."

"We will, honey, we will. When I get my hands on Mxy, I'll drop-kick him
into
an alternate dimension where imps are considered a delicacy."

Clark's remarks made Lois smile.  She knew full well he was just venting his
frustration at being helpless.  She herself had begun to imagine what she
would do to Mxy once they were at the same place in the same time.  The air
around her stirred.  Behind her she felt instead of heard the arrival of the
little troublemaker.

"Now, now... none of that.  Don't make idle threats, especially when I hold
the remote."  He dangled it in their direction. Clark seized the opportunity
to make a grab for it.  But before he could move Lois out of the way, he
felt
himself rushing forward at the speed of sound.

<CLICK!>

Lois was the first to comment on their new surroundings.  "I don't believe
this...blue ocean...sandy beaches...lagoon.....Clarkkk."

Continued in part 5
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<Mackteach>

"Just his pride, I think.  He telegraphed his punch pretty much." He felt
Lois
relax behind him.  "Are *you* all right?" He tuned in for a moment,
listening
to her heartbeat returning to normal.  He heard her take a deep breath, then
slowly let it out.

"Yeah, I'm okay.  We've got to figure out a way to stop them ... *without*
Superman making an appearance, if possible.  Did you see that metal box?"

Clark looked at the box, now placed in the middle of the deck.  "Yeah."  He
focused for a moment.  "Lead-lined.  You know what that means."

Lois nodded.  "Kryptonite.  So ... got any ideas?"

<Misha>

Clark shook his head. "Not yet. They're keeping it too close, and I can't do
much while I'm handcuffed to you." He smiled down at her suddenly. "Not that
that's a bad thing."

Lois grinned. "Save it for later, lover. First we need to get rid of the
kryptonite."

Clark nodded and scanned the scattered couples, who were rapidly becoming
restless. Whispers of 'Where's Superman?' and 'Isn't he here yet?' filtered
through to his ears, and he noticed that Mindy and Edge maneuvering around
their handcuffs to check their watches.

Glancing over at Jimmy, his eyes started to slide past Ralph when he noticed
they were both shivering. Clark turned and scanned the skies, noting the
clouds piling up behind the bright lights of the skyline of Metropolis.

Clark nudged Lois. "How long until midnight?"

"Still a couple of hours, why?"

"There's another storm brewing that'll hit in about half an hour. I think
Superman'll be busy until then." Clark sat down on the deck and pulled Lois
into his lap. "They shouldn't get impatient for at least twenty more
minutes."

Lois snuggled closer into his embrace. "It's such a pity."

"What?"

"There are all those staterooms downstairs, and all those beds, and I have
to
make do with the deck in front of an audience."

Clark coughed and glanced around, torn between blushing and laughing. The
others seemed to be taking his cue and were settling down and beginning to
huddle closer to one another. The armed men's glances at the sky became
fewer,
and they started looking toward their leader instead.

After about twenty-five minutes, he gestured to one. "Set up the video
camera.
We'll start Stern's trial, and we'll get to Superman as soon as he deigns to
show up."  He laughed, tossing the gray cylinder in his hand, and a sudden
gust of wind almost blew him and his prize over the side.

Clark smiled and held Lois closer. It was so nice when Mother Nature did his
job for him.

<zoomway>

"This is ludicrous," Morgan Edge muttered.

"Tell me about it," Mindy sighed. "Any other day Superman would be scraping
bubble gum off the school desks, but today .. sheesh, he can't fly down and
save us from a few lousy terrorists."  She rubbed the handcuff. "I broke a
nail, and it's a totally bad hair day."

"Your dog wet on my socks."

"Pookie!" Mindy brightened as she scooped up the curly-haired terror.  "I
named him after my incarcerated husband ... well .. kind of. I didn't want
to
name him 'Bill'--that's sort of a silly name, don't you think?"

Morgan Edge sighed, and started to scan the skies himself.

"Now begins the trial of Franklin Stern," the leader began. "A wealthy,
liberal, paper tiger whose fascist rag, the Daily Planet, has oppressed --"
The man stopped suddenly, as he felt a hot liquid filling his shoe.

"Pookie!" Mindy called. "Come back to Mommy!"

The gunman angrily leveled his weapon at the handle-less dust mop. One of
his
compatriots quickly stayed his hand and glanced at Mindy. The leader
swallowed
hard.

His reaction had not gone unnoticed. "Clark," Lois whispered.

"I know, honey. You'd almost think--"

"That they're afraid of Mindy?"

Clark nodded. "Exactly."

The leader composed himself quickly. "Mr. Stern, you are charged with
contempt
of political conscience, and apathy for the masses..."

"Honey," Clark whispered, "I can't let this go on. When this guy gets to the
verdict--"

"I know," Lois nodded. "The sentence will be carried out."

"Right, and they look like the capital punishment type. Superman has to
help."

"No!" Lois said, and much too loudly. She looked up to see all faces turned
in
her direction. "No," she restated, covering for her emotional outburst.
"This
is a ... kangaroo court!"

"Zip it," the nearest 'terrorist' growled.

Lois shrugged. "Consider it zipped."

The leader, rather like an actor who'd been thrown the wrong line, stumbled
over the next few charges, but quickly got back into his spiel.

Lois turned back to Clark. "You can't be ... Superman," she said, mouthing
the
name.

"I have to *do* something."

"Then *do* something, just don't do it as ..."  She smiled as the guard
glanced at them.

"Quiet," he whispered, "or be fitted for a gag."

Lois nodded innocently, and the guard turned away.

"... as ... Superman," she finished, again only mouthing the words.

Clark sighed and looked around the deck. He winked at Lois and a moment
later
the other end of the handcuff was swinging freely. A strong breeze kicked up
on the deck and every single weapon above and below deck vanished. Lois felt
a
tug on her handcuff, and her kilted husband was sitting back at her side.

<chrispat>

After a moment of paralyzed shock, the gunmen all began yelling accusations
at
each other. Mrs. Stern jumped to her feet, dragging her husband with her and
launched herself at the nearest terrorist with an ear-splitting shriek.

The others all turned to watch their compadre go down under the combined
weight of the Sterns. He didn't get up.

Lois scrambled to her feet, pulling Clark with her, and ran toward the lead
box.  Before she could reach it, the leader of the terrorists pulled himself
together. Reaching the box first, he flipped up the lid, but before Clark
could even wince, Lois connected a well-placed kick to the leader's nether
regions. As he collapsed, groaning to the deck, she slammed the lid shut and
tossed the box overboard.

She wrapped her arms around Clark as he sighed with relief. "Honey, are you
all right?"

"I will be in a minute." He kissed her and then grinned.  "My heroine."

Lois giggled. "Well, you can reward me later," she said. "There's still the
matter of all these terrorists, and in case you hadn't noticed, we're still
handcuffed."

Clark looked down at their wrists. "So we are. Do you think they would
notice
if we kept them?"

Lois stood on tiptoe to give him a quick peck on the nose. "Hold that
thought.
Now go be Superman."

"Yes, dear."

Another strong breeze swept over the deck and the hostages found they were
no
longer handcuffed and that all the terrorists, including the ones that had
stayed below, were neatly tied in a writhing bundle on the deck.

Lois pointed up. "Look. It's Superman."

Superman floated down carrying a handful of handcuffs. "Sorry I was late,
folks. I'm glad to see you're all okay."

As everyone crowded around Superman, the wind picked up, causing the men to
grab at their unaccustomed skirts.

"Come on everyone, let's get below," Mr. Stern yelled over the sound of the
wind. "When my wife decides to celebrate Hogmanay, a little thing like a
blizzard isn't going to stop her." He pointed a finger at Superman and
gestured to the terrorists. "You. Get those things off my boat."

Superman blinked and replied automatically. "Yes, sir."

Stern and Senga led the others, chattering about their adventure, toward the
stairs. As they disappeared a loud voice was heard proclaiming, "Ach, that
Superman laddie is a sexy wee bugger. D'ye ken if he has a lassie?"

<MackMe>

At Senga's comment, Lois came to a halt at the top of the stairs.  Clark
walked up to her and conscious of the fact that the captive gunmen were
watching him, spoke to her with his 'superhero voice'.

"Is everything all right, Miss Lane?"

Lois glanced quickly at the bound terrorists before looking at Superman.
Smiling, she winked.  "Oh, I'm fine, Superman.  But I think Mrs. Stern has a
few ... ideas ... about you."

Clark gave her his 'oh, really?' look.  "Oh, really?"

Lois nodded, her eyes twinkling.  "Don't be surprised if she asks you about
your ... um, social ... life."

Clark's eyes gleamed with silent laughter.  "I guess I'll just have to tell
her that I'm ... involved."

Lois smirked, her eyebrow raising.  "Involved?"

Superman grinned broadly as he walked back toward the terrorists.  "Yes,
Miss
Lane.  Very much so.  Totally and irrevocably committed.  She's the best
part
of me."

She smiled as she watched him lift off with his New Year's gift to
Metropolis'
finest.  "She's a very lucky lady."  She walked toward the railing and spoke
in a normal voice, certain that he heard her.  "I love you.  Hurry back."
Lois' smile widened as she watched him fly a little faster.

As she turned away from the railing, she placed her hand over her stomach.
"And that's how Daddy helps make the world a little better, sweetie."  She
sighed and walked toward the stairs that led below deck.  "Well, let's see
what else Hogmanay is all about."

<Misha>

She paused in the doorway to the indoor ballroom. The guests that had been
held at gunpoint mere minutes earlier were celebrating in full force inside.
The noise and light spilled out into the pale moonlight that was quickly
disappearing into the dark shadows of the looming clouds.

Lois pulled back into the shadows with a grimace as Ralph staggered past the
doorway. He bumped into Morgan, who managed to spill his drink on Pookie
instead of Mindy.

Lois glanced across the crowd to the dancing space where Perry and Alice
swayed to the music. She swallowed past the lump in her throat as she
recognized the look that crossed Perry's face as he hugged Alice closer to
him. It was in Clark's eyes every time he looked at her.

A single, crystalline flake of snow drifted down and rested on her cheek.
Lois
looked up at the underside of the clouds, glowing from the bright city
lights
and shivered. A few more flakes drifted slowly down and she closed her eyes
as
each one caressed her face coldly.

The soft press of lips and the familiar warmth of Clark wrapped around her
brought her back to herself. She smiled up into his eyes.

"Why didn't you go on inside?"

Lois shrugged, using it to press closer to him. "They say that whatever
you're
doing when the new year begins, you'll do for the rest of the year. I wanted
to make sure I was with you."

Clark rocked her in his arms. "It doesn't matter where you are, because I'll
be doing the same thing at midnight as I always have, and always will."

"What's that?"

His lips dropped to her ear and his voice stilled to a whisper. "Loving
you."

Lois sighed and tucked her head into his shoulder as the familiar strains of
'Auld Lang Syne' filtered out of the ballroom. "Always."

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<Lansbury>

Lois and Clark were suddenly standing in a crowd of people looking up into
the
night sky.  A cold drizzling rain was falling as a hush settled over the
crowd.

"Look!  Over there." A tall lanky man standing next to a small redhead was
pointing up into the heavens.  "Scully, look ..quick ... something is over
there.  About three o'clock high."  Mulder looked at his partner and could
see
she was not interested a bit in what was going on. "Come on, Scully, you
agreed to come and be a 'watcher' with me tonight."

"Mulder, I came to shut you up. You have talked of nothing else for the past
three days. I'm here only under duress.  Standing in the cold rain watching
the black, and I might say, cloud-filled sky for moving objects is not my
idea
of a fun evening.  Mulder, are you listening?"  She gave him no time to
answer.  "*Even if* something was up there, it would have to be the size of
a
football stadium and as bright as a small nova to cut through this cloud
cover."

Mulder continued to scour the sky listening to his partner.  When she had
finished her ramblings he leaned towards her, smiling from ear to ear.
"Scully, the extreme possibility of seeing an alien or a UFO tonight is
great.
I can feel it in my bones. There have been sightings coming from this area
for
the last three weeks. Open that scientific mind of yours for that
possibility."

A movement to the right of her caught her eye.  Scully looked at the couple
next to her.  Clark had his arm around Lois' shoulder in a protective
stance.
Scully noticed immediately something was wrong with the woman he was
holding.

"Sir, is everything all right?  Do you need help?"  Scully peered at Lois
and
could see from her paleness that she was not feeling well.  "I think she
needs
to sit down, sir.  I'm a medical doctor. If there's anything I can do to
help
I'll be happy to."

Mulder moved to stand on the other side of Lois.  The happenings in the sky
were forgotten.

Trying to come up with a quick explanation Clark looked at both of them.
"My wife is pregnant and this excitement is making her a little queasy."

"Sir, you need to get her to a dry place. Our car is over there."  Mulder
and
Scully led Lois and Clark to their car about two hundred feet away.

"Thank you for your help.  We both appreciate it."  Clark settled Lois, then
himself, into the back seat.  Mulder had taken off his black overcoat and
given it to Clark.  He gently placed it over her.  Lois moved till she was
resting her body against Clark's.  She immediately felt better as her body
began absorbing his body heat.

Scully reached over the front seat and gave Lois a cup of hot cocoa.  "We
have
a full thermos of this.  Would you like a cup?"

Lois smiled as she took the cup.  "Thank you, I'd love it."

Mulder was the next to speak.  "Are you two watchers, too?"

"Watchers?"  Lois and Clark said at once.  "Well, we try to watch every week
but with our work schedules it isn't always possible."

Clark gave Lois a slight nudge on her arm.  He placed his lips next to her
ear.  "We're *in* THE X-FILES."

Lois sat up straight. "What I meant to say is we go whenever we hear of a
sighting near us."

"Then you have a lot in common with my partner here." Scully smiled wryly.
"He's into aliens and alien sightings, big time. He'd give his right arm to
actually see and talk to a living breathing alien."

Both Lois and Clark smiled in the darkness.

"I don't think an alien would need a extra right arm," Clark said in an
amused
tone, "but you never can tell who you might run into on a night like this."

<CLICK!>

<Mackteach>

The evening sky and light drizzle suddenly disappeared, replaced by a blue
sky
and green grass.  But not just any blue and green.  As Lois looked around
her,
the phrase "jewel tones of sapphire blue and emerald green" popped into her
head.  That was the only way to describe the incredible vibrancy of the sky
and grass.

She took a step forward, immediately stopping and looking down at her feet.

Her bare feet.

"What the ...?"  Lois held her arms out to either side and looked down at
what
she was wearing.  She stroked the front of her dress; the material felt
impossibly soft and supple. "Softer than suede," she murmured.  She touched
her neck and felt polished stone against her fingertips.  "Waitaminute ..."

She looked about her once more and spied Clark a short distance away.  At
least, she thought it was him.  The outline of the body was very male, very
strong, very confident, very ... heroic.  As the figure walked toward her
out
of the sudden rise of mist, she saw that it indeed was Clark.

Or was it?

"Lois?  Honey, is that you?" the figure asked as it walked toward her.

The voice was unmistakably Clark's and Lois relaxed her stance slightly,
wondering even as she did why she stood with her legs apart and her chest
out,
looking in disdain at the approaching man.  While he still had his glasses
on,
instead of the jeans and t-shirt he had been wearing in the comfort of their
home, he was now wearing what looked to be a metal chestplate, leggings, and
boots.

Looking into his eyes, Lois recognized the tender look of caring and
concern.
A soft smile played on his lips and Lois felt her mouth begin to twitch in
response.  He stopped in front of her, removing the helmet he wore and Lois
couldn't stop the gasp of surprise from escaping from her lips.

"Clark?  Your hair!  It's ... it's ..."

Frowning, Clark looked at Lois, taking in her transformation.  Lois' skin
was
now a darker hue and she stood before him tall and proud.  But what took his
breath away was her hair. Long, flowing waist-length black hair.

He looked into her eyes and saw the uncertainty behind them.  He wanted to
rush forward, to pull her into his arms and reassure her that everything was
all right, but there was something about her stance and her attitude that
gave
him pause.  He continued to look at the other changes that Mxyzptlk's magic
had made.  No longer clad in the casual clothes that she had changed into
before dinner, she appeared to be wearing some type of native garb.  His
hearing tuned in to a faint melody on the soft breeze.  Smiling, he
responded
to her exclamation.

"What about my hair, honey?"

"It's yellow."

"Yellow?"

Lois nodded.  "Yellow.  You know, like the yellow that kids use in
elementary
school when they paint.  Egg yolk yellow."

Clark combed his fingers through his hair.  "Really?  Egg yolk yellow, huh?
That seems to fit everything that I'm seeing, honey.  Bright, vibrant
colors.
Like a painting."

"Like a painting ..." Lois echoed softly.

Reaching for her hand, Clark looked around them, staring.  "The colors,
Lois.
They're so ..."

Lois nodded.  "Vivid.  Unnaturally so.  Almost as if ..."

Clark stared at Lois.  "He didn't ..."

Lois stomped her bare foot on the green grass, a flurry of butterflies
rising
at the disturbance.  "Clark! That imp's jumped us into a Disney animated
movie!  You're John Smith and I'm ..."

Clark nodded slowly.  "POCAHONTAS.  I know, honey.  I heard the background
music. 'Colors Of The Wind', right?"

"Uh huh.  But *why* is he doing this?"

"For fun, kiddies."

Lois and Clark turned at the voice. Lois' head jerked back in surprise, her
long black hair blowing in the seemingly ever-present breeze.  Clark quickly
reached out, capturing the little hummingbird.

"Hey!  Watch it!  I'm an endangered species, y'know!"

Loosening his grip, Clark looked at the hummingbird closely.  Instead of the
head of the character, Flit, that he expected, he found himself staring at
Mxyzptlk's head.

"All right, you fifth-dimensional elf!  What's this all about?"

The wind and leaves rustled about them and Mxyzptlk smiled.  "Just having
some
fun, Stooperman.  You and the little wifey here wanted some peace and quiet
in
front of the TV.  So I figured, why not bring you inside the TV?  For
something a bit more ... shall we say ... up close and personal?"

Lois shook her finger at the dimensional imp.  "Listen, Mistletoe!  I'm not
in
the mood for your fun and games!"

With a poof, the impish hummingbird disappeared only to be replaced by
another
animated character, this one looking like a devilish version of a certain
large mouse.

Mxy frowned and stuck out his tongue.  "It's Mxyzptlk to you, Mrs. Stooper.
And too bad.  I'm going to have more fun and more games with you two before
this is over.  *If* it's ever over."

"Mxyz ---"  Clark growled.

A large white-gloved finger shook at Clark.  "Uh uh uh.  That's not in the
rules.  Besides, there are over one hundred channels available for me ...
and
the two of you ... to surf through.  Thank goodness for cable."

In a cloud of smoke, the mouse-imp disappeared.  Lois and Clark looked
around
as his voice filtered back to them.

"See you around primetime, kiddies."

<CLICK!>

<Misha>

Clark looked down at himself, a habit that he seemed to be quickly forming.
His glasses were gone, and he was wearing a...

"Smoking jacket?"

Jimmy looked up from the couch upon which he lounged. "What did you say,
Bruce?"

Clark tried hard not to stare. He'd never seen Jimmy dressed up, nor in
such...vintage clothing.

Jimmy looked down at himself. "What?"

"Ahh...nothing."

"Master Bruce, Master Dick, there is a call on the Phone." Perry appeared
out
of nowhere, dressed impeccably in clothing from an even earlier time.

Clark glanced around. This was starting to seem bizarrely familiar. Perry
opened the study door, and there on the desk was the big, red phone, merrily
buzzing away.

"This is ... BATMAN," he intoned into the huge handset, mentally crossing
his
fingers.

"Get going, already!" Mxy yelled, and Clark felt himself suddenly jump into
fast forward, primary colors speeding past him as he almost decapitated
Shakespeare, jumped down a pole, and emerged into the beeping, pulsing,
over-
labeled Batcave.

Continued in part 3
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AULD ACQUAINTANCE

An IRC Round Robin by

Zoomway(zoomway@aol.com);CKgroupie(NKWolke@ t-online.de);
Eraygun(Eraygun@aol.com): AMCiotola(AMCiotola@aol.com);
Misha(mhall@sound.net); Flakeydom (dom-mel@dial.pipex.com);
ChrisM(mulders@mindspring.com); Mackteach(Mackteach@aol.com);
chrispat(cp13607@aol.com)
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<zoomway>

"Hogmanay?" Lois asked, reading from the invitation as Clark escorted her up
the gangway.

"It's New Year's Eve in Scotland, honey. Gifts are given too, if I'm not
mistaken."

"Mm," Lois brightened. "Get me anything?"

"Hogmanay snuck up on me this year, Lois. This kilt will have to do."

Lois looked down at Clark's kilt. "I have to hand it to Stern's new wife,"
she
said admiringly.  "You do look good ... really great in a kilt."

"Don't start," Clark admonished playfully.  "I feel uncomfortable enough as
it
is."

"Can I at least keep my makeup in your purse?"

Clark sighed and handed their invitations to the man dressed in Black Watch
garb at the top of the landing. "It's a *sporran*, Lois."

"Uh huh," she smiled. "Well, I left my cute matching red 'sporran' at home,
and just grabbed the makeup I keep in the jeep for emergencies."

Clark raised an eyebrow. "There are 'makeup' emergencies?"

Lois lowered her voice. "Remember that time you and I were in the back of
the
jeep, and we got a little carried away, and we ended up tumbling out into
the
rain, and --"

"Ah. *That* kind of emergency.  Okay," he relented. "You can put your makeup
in my sporran."

"That sounds so sexy," she cooed as she began putting items in.
Unfortunately,
the sporran being located at the front of the kilt, their activity attracted
attention.

"You two better find a room," a gravely voice intoned.

Lois and Clark, both blushing, turned and faced their editor.

"P..Perry," Clark stuttered. "Lois needed my pur..sporran for an emergency."

"Uh huh, I don't doubt it."

Lois smiled and changed the subject. "You look rather dashing, Perry."

"Doesn't he?" Alice said, and joined the small group. "Though I kind of
resent
a date who has better legs than I do."

Clark smiled warmly. "It's nice to see you again, Alice."

"Thank you, Clark, and by the way," she said, turning to Lois. "I put a
Hogmanay gift in Perry's sporran, but I never thought about how much more
fun
it would be to do while he was wearing it."

Jimmy, attracted by the laughter, joined the group. "Hey, guys ... um, I
thought I'd never ask this, but ... is my hem straight?" he asked, and
turned
slowly.

<CKgroupie>

Lois laughed out loud. "It's perfect, Jimmy."

He sighed and glanced at Perry and Clark. Why didn't they look as
uncomfortable as he did?

"I only hope I don't stumble," he muttered under his breath. With mixed
feelings he remembered that due to a 'doing-the-laundry aversion' he'd only
had the choice between white boxers with red hearts on them and black
briefs.
He hadn't been able to decide which one would be worse and finally chose the
white boxers, but now he wasn't so sure anymore. He sighed again. He wished
the party was over.

Suddenly another voice intruded on the laughing company. "Ah, I see all my
colleagues from the Planet have arrived before me."

The mood change was all too visible when Morgan Edge joined them. It was
just
a second, but it was still embarrassing how all the faces fell. He seemed to
not notice, though and was all smiles and cheesy charm as usual.

Lois sent Clark one of her 'Morgan-Edge-emergency' glances and he
immediately
tried his best to come to her rescue.

"Honey, didn't you mention that you saw Dr. Klein over there?"  Not waiting
for an answer, he grabbed her sleeve in a very un-Clarkish manner and pulled
her with him.

"Thank you, Clark," Lois said, trying to keep up with him on her high heels.
"But, please remember, I don't have superspeed..."

Clark slowed down and gave her an apologetic smile. "Sorry, I guess I
panicked. So, where are we going anyway? Do you see the Dr.Klein anywhere
around?"

Lois grinned. "Oh yes, he's standing over there... and I'm afraid he's ..
um... underestimated his clothing size."

<Eraygun>

Even though he had gotten used to his friend's eccentricities, Clark was
somewhat taken aback by the sight of Dr. Klein in his ill-fitting Scottish
regalia. While the upper part of the outfit fit very nicely, the kilt was
extremely short, stopping at mid thigh rather than at the knee.

"I wonder if we should say anything?" Clark mused.

"What can we say, 'Hey, Doc, did you borrow that outfit from Ally McBeal?'"

"Then we'd better get below," Clark replied with a grin "It's kind of windy
here on deck."

"Clark, I would rather be accidentally 'flashed' by Dr. Klein than be in the
same room with Morgan Edge," Lois said through gritted teeth. "Promise me we
can avoid him tonight."

"I'll do my best."

"Lois, Clark, over here." Dr. Friskin smiled and waved at them.

"Boy, am I glad to see you two," Dr. Klein said with relief as Lois and
Clark
joined him and Dr. Friskin at the entryway that led below deck.

"What's the problem, Dr. Klein?"  Clark asked.

"It's this outfit."

Lois suppressed a giggle. "Oh, is something wrong with it?"

"Yes, it's way too short, the rental place made a mistake. You wouldn't
happen
to have a trenchcoat I could borrow?" Dr. Klein said nervously. He and Dr.
Friskin fell into step behind Lois and Clark as they followed a growing
throng
of partygoers into the ballroom below.

"I think you look sexy, Bernie," Dr. Friskin interjected.

Dr. Klein blushed a little. "Thank you, cupcake, but I feel somewhat
overexposed right now."

"Nonsense, you look wonderful.."

"I don't know ...."

Before he could go on, Inspector Henderson walked by with his wife. "Lane,
Kent, good to see you both here at this soiree." He eyed Dr. Klein carefully
for a few moments. "Nice gams, Doc."

<AMCiotola>

Doctor Klein stared back at the Inspector. "Yours aren't too bad yourself."
He
then leaned over. "But your hem is crooked ... nice hearts, by the way."

Henderson looked flustered and mumbled something. He and his wife moved
along
to greet others they knew.

Clark had to laugh. He'd heard the brief exchange between the two but
couldn't
make out what Henderson had said before walking on. He could have sworn he'd
heard something about laundry day.

"What's so funny, honey?"

Clark put his arm around Lois' waist and pulled her closer. "I'll tell you
later."

The party looked as if it was in full swing. Just about everyone they knew
had
passed and greeted them. The only person they had not seen yet was Franklin
Stern himself.

<Misha>

"Oh, cupcake, look! It's Lois and Clarkie!"

Clark closed his eyes as Mindy Church pranced towards them, waving her
powder
puff. The powder puff, on further inspection, turned out to be a small white
dog, which growled at the two of them.

Amid the swirling dark plaids and black evening gowns of the other guests,
Mindy cut quite a figure. A short pink and purple plaid swatch wrapped
around
her waist seemed to me masquerading as a pleated skirt, and her fluffy pink
sweater shed almost as much fuzz as her dog. A tall, tanned, blond man who
looked like he had more muscle mass in his left pinkie than in his whole
forehead, seemed to be serving as her escort, judging by the matching red
and
purple kilt he wore.

"Oh, I'm so glad you're both here!" Mindy air-kissed both their cheeks. "You
always liven up a party!" She waved her growling dog at them and sauntered
off, blond hunkola trailing dutifully behind. "Oh! Morgie!" They heard her
squeal fade into the crowd.

"What was that?" Lois asked dazedly.

Clark shook his head. "I don't know, and I don't want to know."

Jimmy emerged from the group in front of them. He was walking backwards and
peering anxiously both ways, one hand clutched in the fabric of his kilt. He
bumped into Clark and jumped like a startled cat. "Geez, CK! Don't do that!"

Lois rolled her eyes. "What is it now, Jimmy!"

Jimmy slumped against the wall. "You guys shoulda warned me!"

"What, Jimmy?" Clark was just as puzzled as Lois.

"There's this group of crazy women running around claiming they're doing
kilt
checks! They surround you and flip up your skirt to see what you're wearing
underneath!" Jimmy paled. "There's a couple of 'em with fistfuls of bright
blue ribbons."

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<FlakeyDom>

An unholy screeching at the entrance turned everyone's heads as a piper
marched through the doors serenading the Sterns onboard. As they entered
they
looked around the room. Catching sight of his newsroom staff in the corner,
Franklin waved them over.

Perry sighed. "I was hoping to avoid having to talk to Senga-the new Mrs.
Stern--until I'd had enough to drink. Then I could just nod."

Jimmy looked puzzled.  "Why?"

As the group made their way to the entrance, Perry explained.  "She's
Scottish
... that's why she insisted on this being Hogmanay and ..." His voice
petered
out as they reached the doors.  Senga was brushing droplets of water from
her
husband's kilt.

"Ken, it's gey dreicht oot there.  Fair chuckin' it doon."

Lois, Jimmy, and Alice looked at Perry who shrugged and raised his eyes to
heaven. Senga, oblivious to the bemusement of her audience, carried on.

"Fit like then?"

Lois nudged Clark and whispered 'You're the linguist.  Is this a language or
has she already drunk a bottle of whisky?"

Clark cleared his throat.  "Chauvin' awa, Mrs. Stern," he said, and then
looked at Lois. "I hope she asked how I was or I may have just agreed to
meet
her after the party."

Mrs. Stern smiled as if she'd met a long-lost relative.  "So you bided in
Aberdeen then.  F'ar aboot?"

"I was only there for a few days, but I traveled around Britain with an
Aberdonian so I picked up a bit of the Doric."

Alice went forward with a small tartan package and handed it to Mrs. Stern.
"A Hogmanay gift."

Senga looked at Franklin.  "Now I hope ya havna been putting it in their
minds
that they should be givin' things awa? That's no the way tae dae it. Only
the
firstfoot brings something to the party."

Stern looked mildly embarrassed and smoothed down the front of his kilt.  "I
may have mentioned it in passing."

When Senga realized that Alice was wondering what exactly to do, she patted
her arm. "Ah, dinna fash yersel', hen.  You can always start a new custom."

Alice glanced at Clark, who had become the group translator.  He smiled
reassuringly at Alice. "She says not to worry yourself about it."

Just then Jimmy let out a yell as a noisy group of women, not realizing whom
he was speaking to, grabbed the back of his kilt. A chorus of 'What have we
got here?  Lovehearts?  Not a real man, this one?' burst forth as Jimmy
blushed the color of his MacGregor plaid.

A roar of "Haud yer wheesht!" startled the women into silence.

Lois whispered in Clark's ear, "I thought that's what they were doing?" She
could see Clark's translation circuits going into overdrive as his memory
delved for a meaning.

"Shut up!" Clark said to the miscreants, who were babbling to themselves
about
what the large woman in tartan could have been yelling about.

At a signal from his wife, Stern took the ribbons from the ringleader's
hand.

"I have nivver seen sich a display in my life.  This is a ceilidh, not a
circus, and I'll thank you to mind that."

Abashed, the women slunk away and Senga turned to Clark.

"Now, young loon, I've twa things to ask of you.  Will you do the honor of
firstfooting us, and can I ask you if ye'll 'Strip the Willow' with me?

Clark nodded and presented his arm to her.  As he led Mrs. Stern to the
dance
floor, Lois muttered, "The willow better be all she's stripping with him."

<zoomway>

The ceilidh band struck up the lively tune. Senga and Clark took the floor,
and were joined by three other couples: Alice and Perry, Klein and Friskin,
and Lois and Franklin Stern. Pairing off square dance style, somewhat like
the
Virginia Reel, the men were on one side, and the women on the other. The
couples faced each other with a gap between them, and changed partners
throughout the dance.

Jimmy pulled a small camera from his sporran and began to snap photos.
"Man,"
he whispered, "I wish a guy could get away with having a purse all the
time."

The couples swirled and laughed, and those like Lois, Klein, and Friskin,
having no idea what they were doing, seemed to have more fun just bumping
into
each other. Senga did a particularly grand swirl, which caused her left shoe
to be victimized by inertia. It flew over the heads of other dancers and
landed in a punch bowl. Ralph, ever near the punch bowl, merely shrugged,
and
used the shoe as a ladle.

As the dance reached a feverish peak, the night was shattered by the sound
of
automatic weapons fire. Jimmy cringed. "Geez, these Scots know how to
party."

"Hands up!" a voice shouted.

A man pointed an Uzi at the assembled guests, forcing them back against the
far wall of the ballroom. A dozen other men, similarly armed, followed the
leader in. Lois grimaced as a woman screamed near her ear, then noticed it
was
Ralph.

"You." The first man leveled the gun at Stern. "You're the one," he said
gruffly, and pulled Stern from the crowd.

"Hey!" Perry shouted, moving forward. "What in the Sam Hill--"

"Shut up, grandma," the man sneered, with a glance at the kilt, then turned
back to Stern. "You're the owner of the Daily Planet? Franklin Stern?"

Stern took a deep breath. "Yes."

"Then you're just the man we're here to see," the gunman said, and pushed
Stern to the floor.

"No!" Senga cried, but Lois prevented her from running forward.

The man pressed the barrel against Stern's forehead. "You're on trial for
crimes against our oppressed brothers."  He looked up at his accomplices.
"Cuff the others!"

The other men moved through the guests handcuffing them; Lois to Clark,
Alice
to Perry, Friskin to Klein, Ralph to Jimmy, and Mindy to Morgan Edge. Senga
was pulled over to her husband, and likewise cuffed as were Inspector
Henderson and his wife. Leaving the remaining guests under guard below, the
apparent leader along with a handful of his men marched the seven couples
back
up on deck.

The rain that had fallen earlier on the Sterns' grand entrance had stopped,
but the air still felt heavy with the promise of more bad weather.

Once there, Clark made a move forward.

"Not yet," Lois whispered. "Something fishy is going on here, and it's not
just the smell from Hobbs bay."

Clark sighed, "I agree, but if they pull the trigger--"  As if on cue, the
lead man moved away from Stern. "Superman!" he shouted, and then lowering
his
voice, "is *also* on trial."

"That's it," Lois said softly. "It's a trap for you, Clark. I knew they were
phonies."

<ChrisM>

"On trial for what?" Perry demanded.

The leader turned his gun towards Alice, and Perry moved to get in front of
her. "If you care at all for the individual who is cuffed to you," the
gunman
addressed everyone, "you will be quiet."

He didn't wait to see how his announcement had been received, but returned
his
attention--and his gun's muzzle--to Franklin Stern. At a nod from him his
men
began to herd the seven "couples" to different places on the deck.  Clark
grew
even more apprehensive.  This would make it harder to rescue everyone.

After all were in place, the gunmen waited in silence, dividing their
attention between the sky and the people they were guarding.

Lois took advantage of their divided attention to whisper to Clark. He
wasn't
happy with her taking such a chance, but he could hardly say anything to
her.
After all, he might be able to hear *her,* but she couldn't hear him.

"We need to figure ..."

"... out what they ..."

"... are planning for ..."

"... Superman."

Despite the danger, Clark couldn't help but admire her timing.  She seemed
to
know just when the guard was going to look at them again.

After a minute or two of waiting for the Man of Steel to put in an
appearance,
the leader pushed the Sterns over towards some chairs and forced them to sit
down.

Keeping the gun on them, he held out his free hand, snapping his fingers
impatiently.  One of the other men tossed him a cloth bag. Opening the bag,
he
brought out a package--lead-colored, about the size of coffee mug.

"Superman!" he called out again, then muttered, "I've got a surprise for
you."

<Eraygun>

"You must be new in town or you wouldn't be so cocky, punk," Inspector
Henderson drawled from the section of the deck where he and his wife were
forced to kneel.

The leader turned away from the Sterns and faced Henderson, leveling his
weapon directly at the inspector's head. He flashed a cold hard smile.
"Cocky?
I prefer to think of it as confident."

"Yeah, I bet you do. But to me you're just like any other street thug with a
gun," Henderson countered. "You think it makes you a big man."

The cold smile turned to a look of righteous indignation. "My men and I are
not common criminals, despite your opinion of us, Inspector. Our cause is a
just one and we intend to have our voices heard!" the gang leader replied
theatrically as he waved his weapon around at the hostages on the deck.

"But what does any of this have to with Superman?" Lois yelled in response
as
she and Clark tried to edge closer to the area of the deck where the Sterns
were being detained.

"Isn't it clear? Superman is a symbol of all that oppresses us. Once we have
destroyed him the world will have to listen."

<Mackteach>

The intruder's thick accent and awkward speech patterns made Lois raise an
eyebrow at his last comment.   "Superman symbolizes your *oppression*?  Gee,
sue me for thinking that truth and justice were good things!"

The gunman looked around him as a nervous titter ran through the captives.
Scowling, he turned his attention once more to Lois, his gun aimed at her.
He
muttered something unintelligible.  In spite of her rapidly beating heart,
Lois didn't flinch.  Clark reached for her hand, squeezing it to let her
know
that he was ready to protect her.

She smiled tightly at the gunman, returning Clark's hand squeeze.  "What's
the
matter, your Universal Translator out of batteries?"

Jimmy stared at Lois, not sure if taunting him was the best way to stand up
to
the gunman's intimidation methods.  "Um, Lois?"

Lois turned to Jimmy.  "Don't worry, Jimmy.  He won't shoot."  She stared
pointedly back at the gunman, speaking slowly so that no one would
misunderstand her next words.  "Not when we all happen to be friends of
Superman."

The man slowly lowered his weapon, looking about him.  The fear that he and
his companions had first encountered when they made their appearance no
longer
seemed to be present.  In fact, he took note of several of the men scowling
at
him, while the women all followed Lois' lead and stared at the intruders.

He decided to try another tactic.

Walking toward Lois, he reached out and stroked her cheek.  "You have a fire
in you. I like that in a woman."

"Touch her again and not even Superman will be able to save you."

The low, dangerous tone made everyone's eyes turn to Clark.  Perry, Jimmy,
Dr.
Klein, even Inspector Henderson, all stared, their eyes wide in shock and
surprise.  They had never heard such a tone from Clark Kent.  He had always
been so ... mild-mannered.

"Psst, Jimmy!" Ralph whispered.

"What?"

"Remind me never to hit on Lois again."

Jimmy nodded solemnly.  "Ditto, Ralph. Ditto."

The gunman walked around and stood in front of Clark.  "And who are you?
Her
personal hero?"

"Duh!" Lois murmured under her breath.

Clark stared at the gunman, a tight smile on his face.  "I'm more than that.
I'm her husband."

The gunman smirked.  "Ah.  The dutiful husband."  Without warning, he
backhanded Clark across the face.  Clark rolled with the punch, glad that
his
reflexes were what they were. Otherwise, the man would have broken both his
hand and his gun.

Everyone gasped.  Lois smiled to herself in satisfaction, knowing that the
gunman's hand hurt more than Clark's ego.

"Clark!"

Clark moaned in feigned pain.  "I'm ... all right, Lois."  He straightened
up
and returned to staring at the gunman.

He leaned toward Clark.  "I admire your bravery, truly I do.  But do not
believe for a moment that I am intimidated by you." He moved away, returning
to where Stern and Senga were positioned.

"Bad move," Clark muttered under his breath.

"Clark?"

"Yeah, honey?"

"Did you hurt him?"

Continued in part 3
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MXYED SIGNALS : Continued from part 4
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<Lansbury>

But to her surprise he was nowhere to be seen.  Panic was beginning to take
hold when she noticed across the lagoon a small cluster of thatched houses.

"Well, at least I'm not stuck on a deserted island all by myself.  Maybe
Clark
went there looking for me."  Lois looked around and noticed the only living
thing listening to her was a sea gull sitting contentedly on a rock nearby.
Moving quickly she set off, making her way around the lagoon towards the
first
thatched house.  As she got closer it occurred to her where Mxy's channel
surfing had dropped her.  Lois automatically smiled and felt her panic
disappear.  She couldn't help herself as began to sing the opening lyrics of
GILLIGAN'S ISLAND.

Gilligan came from one of the huts carrying an armful of coconuts, dropping
them all on his feet when he saw her.  He pressed his lips together to keep
>from yelping in pain.

"Skipper!  Professor!!  We got another one."   Gilligan ran to her.  He
grabbed her hand and began to pump it up and down. "You must be Lois.  Mary
Ann and Ginger are over there with Clark.  He sure does love Mary Ann's
coconut pie."

When she entered the hut, Clark looked up and saw Lois.  "Honey, there you
are." He swallowed the last piece of pie as he spoke. "I thought we got
separated."

A tinge of jealousy rose in Lois as the young women stood beside him, not
wanting to back away from this handsome stranger.

"I explained to the Professor and the others, Lois, that we're experimental
scientists who have volunteered to dimension jump for a highly secret
government agency.  I told them in one of the dimensions we've encountered a
group of individuals who are in dire need of a spell to break the hold of an
evil sorcerer. The Professor is a history buff and knows a lot about
medieval
sorcery. He's going to check a book he has for spells."

Lois could tell by the tone of Clark's voice he wanted her to go along with
this story he had concocted.  At that moment the Professor appeared.

"This may be of some interest to you, Clark."  He paused only long enough to
look over Lois from head to toe.

"Lois?"

"Yes, my wife, Lois."

"What do you have for us, Professor?"

Clark moved to stand beside Lois. But before the Professor could read from
his
book they felt a pull. In a flash and a twinkle their surroundings changed.

<CLICK!>

<Mackteach>

Lois found herself getting out of a car and walking toward a crowd of
people.
She tugged at her skirt, trying desperately to make it longer, amazed at how
short it was.  "This is getting ridiculous," she muttered.

As she neared the crowd, the men assembled seemed to sense that she was
there
and stepped aside to let her through.  Smiling tightly at the greetings of
'Hey, Detective' and 'Hiya, Lance', she stopped short at the yellow plastic
strip crossing her path.

Looking ahead, she let out a low breath as she recognized a familiar figure
and yelled out, "Hey, Chief!"

A man stood from his squatting position, turning to face her.  He walked
toward her, his face grim and Lois gasped as she saw that behind him on the
asphalt lay a body with other men squatting around it.

"What am I in now?" she mused.  She watched the scene in front of her and
caught the shiny glint of badges on the waistbands of some of the men.  She
heard the squawking of several police radios as well as the click of a
shutter
on a camera.  Shaking her head, she continued to stare at the still body
until
a figure stood in front of her, blocking her view.  She started at the
gruffness in the man's voice.

"It's about time you got here, Rita!  Where's your partner?"

Frowning and trying to identify the television show, Lois turned her
attention
to the man who resembled Perry White, yet spoke with a New York accent
instead
of the southern drawl she was used to hearing.

"Rita?  My partner?  Chief ..."

"I've told you before, Rita.  Don't call me Chief.  It's Captain.  Captain
Lipschitz."

At the name, recognition of the television show she had been zapped into hit
her.  "Ah.  Right.  Sorry, Ch ... er, Captain."

Perry nodded.  "Right."  Looking past her shoulder, he asked, "So, where's
Lorenzo?  Don't tell me you drove here separately because the whole
department
knows about you two.  Heck, even Frannie saw your car parked at Lorenzo's
place."

Scrambling for an answer, Lois began to babble.  "Well, um ... y'see, Cap
..."

"Never mind.  Come look at this.  I think this murder is right up yours and
Lorenzo's alley.  It's got all the markings of one of those SILK STALKINGS
you
two specialize in."

"Silk stalking, right," she muttered.  Nodding at 'Captain Lipschitz', she
ducked under the police crime scene tape, looking around for Clark.  "Where
is
he?" she said under her breath.  As they reached the body, Lois pulled up
short at Lipschitz's/Perry's hand on her arm.

"Rita ... I should let you know ... the Commissioner wants to reassign you
and
Lorenzo, give you different partners.  Department regulations don't allow
couples to partner up."

Lois shook her head vehemently.  "No way, Per ... er, Cap.  It won't work
out.
Besides, if that happens, Chris Lorenzo will die, I'll leave the force, and
the ratings will take a dive."

Perry frowned, looking at Lois with concern.  "Rita ... are you feeling
okay?
What are you talking about?  Ratings?"

Lois just smiled.  "Never mind.  Let's play this out, shall we?" Perry
nodded
and left her side to confer with some patrol officers.

Lois knelt by the body and spoke to the coroner kneeling across from her.
"So,
waddaya say, Doc?"

The coroner raised his head and smiled at her.  "At least you didn't say,
'What's up?' honey."

A wave of relief washed over Lois as Clark continued to smile at her.  "Is
he
dead?"

Clark's smile faded.  "'Fraid so.  Recognize him?"

Lois stared at the dead man's face.  "Nigel St. John?  I thought we'd seen
the
last of him a few years back."

Clark nodded.  "Yeah. I know what you mean. But, apparently Mxyz is pulling
people from our memories."

Lois smiled grimly.  "Both foes and friends.  Did you see Perry?"

Clark nodded.  "Uh huh.  I've gotta admit, I never thought I'd miss that
southern drawl."

"Yeah, me too.  Somehow, 'New Yawk' just doesn't fit."

Clark agreed.  "And I don't think he tells Elvis stories either."

Lois stood, smoothing her skirt down.  "Neither do I.  Well, shall we ..."
She stopped and looked down at Clark, smirking slightly.  "What?"

Clark's eyes traveled lingeringly up her legs, a slow smile brightening his
face as he made eye contact with her.  "Very nice."  He stood up, looking
intently into her eyes.

Lois stepped toward him and ran her fingertips along his jaw.  She whispered
softly, "Just wait until we get out of this, I'll give you a view ..."

"Rita!"

Lois closed her eyes and sighed.  "This really *is* getting ridiculous."
Reluctantly, she turned away from Clark.  "Yeah?"

"Waddaya say, partner?"

"Jimmy!?!"

Jimmy stopped short.  "Jimmy? Who's Jimmy? Rita, it's me, Chris Lorenzo ...
your partner."  He sidled up to Lois, putting his arm around her waist.
"Don't you remember last night?"

Lois kept her face serious, throwing a glance at Clark who was failing
miserably at wiping the grin off his face.  Rolling her eyes, she turned
back
to Jimmy, smiling sweetly.  "How could I forget? I made a man out of you,
didn't I?"

Jimmy grinned.  "Come on, let's let the doc here bag and tag the body.
We've
got a silk stalking to solve."

Lois and Clark stood there for a moment as Jimmy went to confer with Perry.

Looking at Jimmy, Lois spoke softly.  "Maybe killing him off wouldn't be
such
a bad idea," she mused.

"Lo-is!"

Lois looked back at Clark.  "What? They went ahead and did it anyway, in
spite
of all those letters from the fans."

"Of which at least two hundred were from you!"

"Well ... it's just that Rita and Chris ... the *real* Rita Lance and Chris
Lorenzo ... reminded me so much of  ... us."

"What? Partners? Friends?"

Lois turned to face Clark, her hand sneaking inside his jacket to rub his
side.  "I'm talking chemistry, Clark.  Hot, smoldering, passion."  She
stepped
closer to him.

Clark swallowed reflexively, his throat suddenly dry.  "Um, honey?"

"The kind of hot passion I was hoping for on our quiet night in ..."

He ran his tongue over his dry lips and tried once more to interrupt her.
"Lois?"

Her hand came up to cover his mouth, her fingers lightly tracing his lips.
"Yeah?"

Clearing his throat, Clark rationalized.  "Honey, this isn't the time or the
place ..."

Lois' eyes widened and she smiled seductively.  "Clark.  It's a *cable*
show."

Clark blinked twice before grinning.  "Oh, right."  He leaned toward Lois,
intent on kissing her when a disembodied voice startled them.

"Oh puh-leeze!  Enough with the mushy stuff already!"

<CLICK!>

<zoomway>

Lois tried to focus, but the room was too full of smoke. She staggered
forward
until she reached an open window. "Now what," she sighed as she poked her
head
out.

The building was impossibly high. An elevation sign reading, "Wouldn't you
like to know?" was affixed to the ledge.

"I get it," she said, her voice tired. "Help! Superman!"

"Hi, honey," Clark said, his voice also tired.

Lois turned and jumped slightly. "You scared me!"

"I'm sorry, honey, but it seems we're *both* trapped in this burning
building.
I don't have my super powers either."

Lois peered back out the window. "Naturally."

The elevation sign suddenly moved out of the way revealing a television
screen. Mxyzptlk, sporting fluffy blond hair and perfect white teeth, was
gesturing to firemen and pointing up to the burning building. The firemen
shook their heads and shrugged. The camera pulled back revealing that their
ladder was too short to reach the window where Lois and Clark were trapped.

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***This round robin was inspired by a story in the SUPERMAN 80-Page GIANT #1
-
A Celebration of the Heroic Legacy ( February 1999) now on sale at your
local
comic dealer. ;). "Prime Time"  by Dan Abnett & Andy Lanning, writers, and
Graham Higgins, artist, is a reminder that Superman and comic books are
supposed to be fun. :) ***

MXYED SIGNALS

An IRC Round Robin by

AMCiotola (AMCiotola@aol.com); Eraygun (Eraygun@aol.com); Lansbury
(Lansbury1@aol.com); Mackteach (Mackteach@aol.com); Misha (mhall@sound,net);
Sambrea (smooth@ticon.net); SUPERfan(CKandLL4ever@juno.com)
_________________________

<AMCiotola>

Lois sat at her desk staring at her monitor. She had just LANed the most
recent by-line from Lane and Kent. Both she, and Clark, when Superman didn't
demand his attention, had worked non-stop for the last few days to bring
down
the latest in the long line of bad boys that always seemed to be out for the
city of Metropolis.

Now with that done and the holidays finally over and the families gone home,
Lois was looking forward to spending a nice quiet evening at home with
Clark.
They planned on just vegging out in front of the TV channel surfing and
watching whatever they could find. Clark would make them a nice simple
dinner
(after all, she was eating for two now and Clark would want to make sure she
was eating and eating right. Then they would cuddle up in front of the TV,
even if they never actually saw what was on the tube.

At the thought of Clark, her hand caressed her still flat tummy and she
began
to think too about the miracle within her. Lois automatically turned to look
for her husband, expecting him to be sitting as his desk. He wasn't. She
couldn't help but wonder what Superman was needed for *this* time. She
didn't
get to wonder too long.

"Lois!" Perry called from his office door. "Find Clark and get yourselves
outta here. Good job on the article. Enjoy the weekend, you've earned it."

"Thanks, Perry."  Lois turned and saw Morgan Edge sitting on the couch
behind
Perry.

She heard Morgan say something about how Clark never seemed to be around,
then
Perry's response.

"A good reporter doesn't get award-winning stories by sitting around on his
duff. Why, did I ever tell you about when Elvis ..."

She stifled a laugh as the editor's door closed, cutting off the rest.
Quickly shutting down her station, Lois headed towards the elevator before
Perry could change his mind or some other late-breaking story could find its
way to her.

*       *       *

Clark had just finished cutting the fresh vegetables when he heard Lois at
the
door. Giving her a chance to make her way into the kitchen, he threw a
mixture
of the vegetables into a wok with a little cooking oil. He'd had to
improvise
a quick and easy dinner using what he'd found in the fridge, since neither
he
nor Lois had made it to the grocery store, but he knew it would provide a
nice
meal.

He had been home for a little over an hour now, coming straight from a brief
rescue. He was eager as Lois to get started with their evening. He'd known
that she could handle a quick wrap up of the story they had been working on
most of the afternoon, and didn't feel much guilt about not going back to
the
Planet. If something came up, Lois knew how to get in touch with him.

While waiting for her at home, he had set up the living room so they could
enjoy their dinner in front of the TV.  He even had the set already turned
on,
tuned to an easy listening music video station, while he made preparations
for
their night of doing nothing.

Lois walked through, heading straight for the kitchen, and noticed what
Clark
had done. They were finally going to get the break they both needed.

"Hi, honey." Clark wiped his hands quickly on a towel, then engulfed Lois
into
a brief hug and a welcoming kiss as she walked through the swinging doors,
both of which she returned enthusiastically before she playfully pushed him
away.

"So this is where you disappeared to. And here I wasted energy worrying
about
you being out on a rescue."  The twinkle in her eye told Clark that she was
teasing. She knew he probably did have some kind of emergency because he
wouldn't have deliberately taken off if he could've avoided it.

After Lois had changed into something more comfortable, they finished making
dinner and moved what they would need into the living room.

Neither one of them noticed when a strange figure blended himself into the
current music video on the TV. At first he danced along with the rest of the
extras, his bizarre clothing doing little to hide him. He purposely stood
out
as if daring Superman to notice him. As the video continued, he eavesdropped
on the super couple, listening to their plans for the evening.

"So, Mr. Muscles thinks he and the Mrs. will be able to enjoy an
uninterrupted
evening at home, huh? Well, think again, Mr-I-Wear-Tight-Tights. The fun is
just about to begin."

With that he pointed his finger at the remote control sitting on the arm of
the couch, giving it a special touch of magic. And as suddenly as he'd
appeared, he just as quickly blended back into the video before finally
completely disappearing from the TV.

*       *       *

"Mmm, that was delicious." Lois leaned back against Clark after placing her
dish back on the coffee table. "You really know how to spoil a girl, Kent."

"You're the only girl I want to spoil, honey." Leaning over and beginning
with
her shoulder, he placed small kisses as he followed the path to her lips.
Neither one of them wanted to rush the passion they were sharing, yet they
were unwilling to separate. After a few more moments they both came up for
air.

"How about that night of vegging out in front of the TV you promised me,
Farmboy. I want that first." Lois was grinning her I'll-get-you-later grin.

"As you wish, my love." Sneaking in one more quick kiss, Clark grabbed the
remote and pressed one of the buttons.

Instantly their comfortable world vanished from around them and they found
themselves looking through some kind of glass wall, seeing the living room
just as it had been a few moments before.

"Clark ..."

Lois had no sooner called out his name when on the other side of the wall, a
puff of purple smoke appeared. Lois' mouth literally dropped to the ground.
Floating before them was the menace from the fifth dimension. He was sitting
on a puff of air with a tub of popcorn and a remote control much like the
one
they used for their own TV.

"Mxyzptlk!"

"Hello there, Mr. Hardbody, are you ready for some fun?" Without warning,
the
imp pressed a button on the gadget.

<CLICK!>

<Eraygun>

Lois and Clark found themselves standing in an a open field. The air
surrounding them was hot and dusty and there was a steady hum in the air.

"Clark, did you see him!? It was Mxyzptlk!"

"I know, honey --"

"Do you have any idea what he's done to us or where we are?"

"No, but I don't think we have time to worry about that right now."

"Why not?"

"Take a look."

Lois turned and looked up into the sky. There were helicopters there, at
least
three or four of them, each bearing distinctive lettering.

"M- A- S- H," Lois spelled out slowly. "MASH?! As in Mobile Army Surgical
Hospital? We're in a war zone! Oh my god, Clark, he's sent us back in time."

Before Clark could respond a voice called out to the two of them. "Hawkeye,
Hotlips, look alive! We've got incoming!"

"Hawkeye?" Lois asked incredulously.

"Hotlips?" Clark replied.

"Is there an echo out here?" a tall man with a mustache said with a smirk.

Clark shook his head slowly.

"Actually, Hunnicutt, it looks to me like Pierce has been imbibing on duty
again," a weasel-faced man who reminded Lois of Morgan Edge interjected.

"Can it, Frank," the tall man admonished. "Everyone knows Hawkeye's a better
surgeon blind drunk than you are cold sober."

"And who asked you to butt in anyway, ferret face?" Lois added sharply.

"Margaret!" the Morgan clone said in a disapproving tone.

Lois eyed the man disdainfully. "Do I know you?" she asked.

"Margaret, how could you say that after all we've meant to each other?"

"Oh dear god, please don't tell me I've had anything that resembles a
relationship with you," Lois said as she rolled her eyes heavenward. "Even
in
fantasy land I can't escape federal disasters."

"Never mind that now, honey," Clark interjected, as he moved away from the
man
who now seemed on the verge of tears.  Looking around him he could see
injured
and dying men everywhere. "Wherever we are, these people are hurt, really
hurt. Let's see if we can help out somehow."

Lois nodded in agreement, but suddenly Mxy appeared in a puff of smoke.
"Ever
the *Super* boy scout, aren't you? Well, let's see what it will take to
change
that."

<CLICK!>

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<zoomway>

Mxyzptlk appeared to think for a moment and then pulled a roll of candy from
his pocket. The wrapper read, "IMPOZ".  Popping a mint in his mouth, he
winked
at the camera and then dashed out of frame. The camera switched to the
firemen
who were now cheering as a wide angle view revealed Mxyzptlk uprooting a
picket fence.

The imp ran to the fire truck and up the woefully short ladder. Once at the
top, he set the picket fence in place and climbed to Lois and Clark's rescue
as a cheesy jingle played in the background.

"Life goes better with IMPOZ,
 Fresh and full of spaz!"

Just as Clark was about to grab Mxyzptlk, the picture froze with Mxyzptlk
smiling his perfect smile at the camera and holding up his roll of IMPOZ.

<CLICK!>

<Misha>

"Marsha, Marsha, Marsha! Why is it always Marsha?" Lucy stormed up the
stairs,
leaving Ellen and Lois gaping in her wake.

"Jan!" Ellen started up the stairs. Lois dropped her head to her hands. This
was one place she did not want to be.

She looked up, and sure enough, Jonathan was standing there, with Martha at
his side. They were dressed exactly like Mike Brady and Alice the maid.
Clark
appeared behind them.

"Uh, Dad?"

"Yes, Greg?"

Clark suppressed a wince. "Where's the TV remote?"

"Is your homework done, son?"

"Yes."

"I believe that Peter had it last."

A scruffy dog ran through the room, dragging a battered metal box trailing
wires and dropping batteries. Jimmy ran after him, hollering, "Tiger! You
bad
boy!"

Mxy chuckled behind them. "Nice try, kiddies." As Jimmy chased the dog in
circles around the kitchen, the imp frowned. "Even I can't take much more of
this BRADY BUNCH."

<CLICK!>

"Tonight ... on the Sci-Fi Channel's STAR WARS MARATHON..."

Lex loomed over Jimmy. "Luke, I am your father."

Jimmy screamed in denial. "Noooooooooo!"

Lois found herself toe to toe with Clark in a narrow hallway. "I'd rather
kiss
a Wookie!" she heard coming from her lips.

"I can arrange that!" Looking at the flash in Lois' eyes, Clark had a
vicious
sense of deja-vu of the time when she hid every emotion behind her defensive
prickles.

Mxy sighed. "Ah. The classics."

"And now ...we return to WONDER WOMAN ... on the Sci-fi Channel ..."

Lois found herself twirling in place, light flashing around her. She
staggered
to a stop and held a hand up to her forehead. The world stopped spinning,
and
she dropped her hand to her stomach to assure it that there would be no more
rollercoasters in the program. She hoped.

Her hand met the slippery fake metal belt at her waist, and she adjusted the
tinsel bracelets. Clark had to be around here somewhere, and likely in some
mortal peril, if she knew her TV shows. She trotted toward the sound of the
evil villain explicating the plot, where Clark patiently waited for rescue.

Lex stood in front of Clark, wearing the token togs of an SS captain.

"Ve haf vays of making you talk, Major Trevor. Ve vill haf the secret codes
of
your high command."

Clark yawned, stretching his shoulders. "Nope."

Lois paused in the doorway, taking half a moment to savor the sight of him
in
uniform.

"Vat do you mean, 'Nope'?" Lex spat.

"He means 'no'," Lois said as she stepped up behind him and brought a handy
chair crashing down on his head.

Clark winced as Lex slid to the ground, then brought the snapped ends of his
ropes in front of him. "Honey, did you have to use the chair?"

"Well, I don't think I can do the Vulcan neck pinch, Clark."

Clark took a moment to take in Lois' costume, and smiled. "No... but you
could
have used that little lasso there."

She looked down at her belt. "Well, yeah, I guess, but I really wanted to
clobber Lex."

Clark wrapped his arm around her waist. "So did I, but I was enjoying him
being silly instead of threatening for a bit."

"Have you seen the remote?"

"No." He sighed. "I don't think it's here. They didn't have TVs in World War
Two. Just a few Germans and one sexy Amazon." He grinned down at her and
hugged her closer.

"Bzzzt! The boy scout wins a prize!" Mxy appeared above them, waving the
remote. "I guess he'll have to try somewhere else!"

<CLICK!>

<zoomway>

Lois and Clark found themselves sitting in an elegant restaurant, warm
candlelight glowing between them.

Clark looked around. "I don't know where we are, but at least we look like
us
this time."

Lois looked down at the lovely gown she was wearing. "Well, it's certainly
an
improvement."

Clark reached across the table and took her hand. "We'll get out of this,
honey. We just need to figure out --"

"Psst."

Lois looked down at the white chihuahua next to her chair. "Of course," she
nodded. "You want Taco Bell."

"No, senora, yo quiero Schlitz."

Before Lois could respond, a man dressed in a suit, well, a bloated clown
head
atop a man's body wearing a suit, stepped up to Clark. "May I have your
order
please," his electronic voice asked.

"Huh?"

"Look, buddy, just talk into my face while placing your order."

Three women, who looked like airline stewardesses from twenty years ago,
appeared on the left side of the table and began to sing.

 "Hold the pickle, hold the lettuce.
  Special orders won't upset us --"

Three young men dressed in McDonald's uniforms appeared on the other side of
the table.

"You deserve a break today!
 So get up and get away --"

A young woman on roller skates approached the table. A car door suddenly
appeared next to Lois and the woman placed the tray on the ledge. She
pressed
'play' on a cassette player affixed to her belt, and a Beach Boys' tune
started playing.

"Sittin' in my car outside your house.
 Remember when you spilled Coke all over your blouse?"

"Clark!" Lois said urgently. "We're in fast-food hell!"

"Tell me about it," Clark said wearily, holding up a bucket of chicken.
Unfortunately the chicken was alive and pecked repeatedly at the knot in his
Clark's necktie.

A pizza dropped in front of Lois. The cheerful delivery boy smiled.

"You get your pizza in 30 minutes or it's free!"

Lois looked down at the pizza. "It's not cooked!"

"Hey," he shrugged. "We said 30 minutes. We never said it would be cooked."

Suddenly a dog in a grey wig, who was being chased by a has-been 70s sitcom
actress, started fighting with the Taco Bell chihuahua. The McDonalds and
Burger King singers began to brawl. Dave Thomas of Wendy's threw 99 cent
chili
on Jack 'N' the Box while The Domino's pizza delivery boy and the Sonic
drive-
in waitress duelled with tater tots and pepperonis.

Just as Lois and Clark realized they were glued to their seats, and
therefore
incapable of dodging the food melee, all action froze. Mxyzptlk, the only
moving object in the tableau, walked to the camera.  He was dressed as a
surgeon.

"I'm not a doctor," he said soberly. "I only play one with my girlfriends."

He swept his hand backward towards the frozen fast-food massacre. "Does your
tummy feel like this after eating out at some cheap joint that can't
remember
you wanted fries instead of onion rings? If so," he said and held up a box.
"Try Mxy Selzer."

Background singers crooned, "Plop, plop, spaz, spaz, oh, what a relief it
has."

Mxyzptlk removed two tablets and walked over to the table. Lois watched
nervously as he dropped the tablets into her water glass. He placed a hand
behind his ear. "Listen to it fizz."

Mxyzptlk stepped back. There was a brief explosion and he stepped toward the
table again, fanning away the smoke. Lois and Clark were dripping in an
amalgam of various fast-food items.

He looked adoringly at Lois. "Feeling better?"

Lois wiped the remnants of a pepperoni-papaya malt from her cheek. "Your
McNuggets are history," she snarled.

Mxyzptlk swallowed and stepped away. He looked back into the camera.
"Another
satisfied customer," he chirped. "Now back to the worst part of TV. That's
right, the program!"

<CLICK!>

<Sambrea>

Clark steered an ancient boat.  He looked down at himself and saw he was
wearing a blue vest with a white shirt underneath it, and black leather
pants.
He looked up to see an older man come up next to him and lean against the
side.

"So are you ready for your wedding today, little brother?"

Wedding? he thought. "Yeah, I guess I am," Clark said reluctantly.

The man laughed heartily.  "Are you getting last minute jitters, SINBAD?
Don't worry, they're common. Ah, here is your bride. Good morning, Maeve."

Sinbad/Clark watched as his brother moved off again, and then looked over to
see a figure come from the below-deck area. He wasn't surprised to see that
it
was Lois, but another name came to mind.

Maeve/Lois walked over to where Sinbad/Clark was standing and leaned up
against him, giving him a good morning kiss.

Mxy appeared out of nowhere, floating in midair.  "I told you!  No mushy
stuff! Eww!" he screamed, and shuddered in disgust.

<CLICK!>

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<AMCiotola>

 ... and suddenly it was all black. Lois heard a cheesy pulsating beat in
the
background.  A beat that she hadn't heard since days long ago when she and
her
girlfriends had snuck into an X-RATED MOVIE house.

She groaned. "Clark?" she asked breathlessly.

Gasping for air,  Clark grunted a reply.  "God ... Lois ...  think of it ...
uh ... this way, honey. At least we have these types of channels blocked
from
our cable."  He paused and caught his breath.  "All he sees is a scramble."

"Oh rats!!" was all that could be heard.

<CLICK!>

<Eraygun>

Lois shook her head. The cheesy disco music was still there, only this time
things were not scrambled. She could see that she was apparently on a stage
surrounded by seven other girls, all of them wearing revealing costumes. To
make matters worse, they were in front of a live audience. She scanned the
crowd and saw Clark standing by the far wall wearing a white dinner jacket
and
what looked like a flash camera.

Where the hell are we now? she wondered, as the other girls linked arms with
her and began to do high kicks like a bargain basement imitation of the
Rockettes. After a few more kicks the number ended and after a spattering of
applause and a few quick bows she made it offstage.

Clark was waiting for her there and he pulled her away from the other girls
and into a nearby storage area.

"Before you ask, we're on some kind of cruise ship."

"Cruise ship?" Lois asked quizzically.

"Yeah, the Pacific Princess."

"That name sounds awfully familiar."

Their conversation was interrupted by a knock on the door. "Ace ... Amy...
are you in there?"

The door opened and there was Jimmy in a purser's dress uniform.

Lois and Clark both sighed. "What is it, Jimmy?" Clark asked.

"Not Jimmy. It's me, Gopher. I came to warn you that Captain Stubing is on
the
warpath. You know he hates for crew members to fraternize. You both could be
fired!"

"We weren't *fraternizing* ... Gopher."

"Yeah, right."

"Honest, we were just talking."

"Just do me a favor, will you? If you want to talk, do it on the main deck
so
it at least looks innocent. Please?"

Under Jimmy/Gopher's watchful eye Clark shepherded Lois out of the storage
area and on to the deck. Taking off his jacket he draped it over her
shoulders
as they started their walk in the moonlight.

Midway up the deck they paused, leaning over the railing and looking out at
the vast ocean surrounding them. "I don't suppose it would be worth it to
search the sea bottom for the remote," Lois said after a few moments of
silence.

Clark shook his head, "I can hold my breath a long, long time but I doubt
that
even I would be able to find it. It would be like looking for a needle in a
haystack." Lois sighed and nodded agreement and continued to stare out at
the
ocean.

"Unless, of course," Clark continued teasingly, "you're planning on becoming
a
*real* mermaid. That might give us a bit more range."

"Fat chance," Lois replied as she raised one eyebrow in a look of mock
consternation. "Even you couldn't hold your breath long enough waiting for
that to happen."

Clark chuckled and placed a comforting arm on Lois's shoulder. She gave him
a
warm smile in return. "Under ordinary circumstances this would be wonderful.
Just you, me, the moonlight and the ocean," she said wistfully.

"Yes, but we also have 'Gopher interruptus'," Clark replied with a wry grin.
"Not to meantion a crazed Captain who'll make us walk the plank if we even
hold hands."

Lois giggled. "I bet he looks like Lex." Clark smiled and in response Lois
reached up and brushed an errant lock of hair off his forehead. "Let's risk
it," she whispered. "After all this is the LOVE BOAT."

Clark's grin grew even wider and he pulled Lois into a close embrace.

There was a blinding flash of light and Mxy was floating nearby with his
large
tub of popcorn. "Sheesh, I can provide much better 'interruptus' than that!"
he said with a snap of his fingers.

Lois and Clark stared as a huge iceberg appeared in the path of the ship.

"That's impossible!" Lois cried. "We're in the South Pacific!"

Mxy shrugged. "Don't you just love it when a show has an unlimited special
effects budget?"

As the iceberg moved nearer, Clark positioned himself so he could protect
Lois. They braced for the impact, but suddenly Mxy's disembodied voice rang
out.

"What am I doing!? I *hate* that movie!"

<CLICK!>

<Lansbury>

Where are we now, Lois and Clark thought, as they looked around at the
familiar set design of the most famous street known to every child five
years
and under.

A warm sense of peace and well-being filled them as they looked in both
directions of the long studio set.  Hand in hand they walked along the
sidewalk to stop and sit down on the stoop of Maria's apartment building.

"You know I used to watch this series faithfully every day.  Mom says I even
named two stray dogs Bert and Ernie.  She bought me pajamas and sheets for
my
bed with all the characters from this show on them.  Now look at me.  I'm
sitting just a few feet from the garbage can of the Cookie Monster.  If this
had happened twenty-seven years ago I would have been the happiest kid in
the
world."

"You watched SESAME STREET, too?  Lucy and I would sing every song on the
show
together.   I always wanted to knock on the Cookie Monster's garbage can."

"Lois, go ahead.  No one is looking," he told her playfully.

Lois looked over her shoulder and sure enough Sesame Street was deserted.
Letting the small girl who had loved this series surface again, she began to
giggle.

"Okay, you talked me into it." She walked to the garbage can and loudly
banged
on its lid.

To her surprise a voice came from inside.

"Who's that knocking?  Don't you know it's rude to interrupt someone when
he's
trying to sleep?"  The lid was pushed aside and instead of the Cookie
Monster
out popped Mxy. "Hey baby, want to tickle me instead of that weirdo Elmo?"

Lois's fiery words charged the air around them.  "Don't you 'Baby' me, you
sick little twisted creature."

"Now, now.  Temper, temper."

Lois quickly put her hand on the little man's arm.  "I got him, Clark, I got
him."

Mxy began to laugh. "Madam, all you have is an arm."

Much to Lois' chagrin he disappeared, leaving her holding a dummy arm, only
to
reappear just a foot from her.

"Can't catch me that easily.  You've got to use brains, not brawn." Leaning
forward he whispered, "Make sure you tell Lover Boy over there what I just
said."

With that Lois saw him aim the remote and as he clicked it, her only
response
was "Noooooo!"

<CLICK!>

<Mackteach>

As their fields of vision refocused, they heard Mxy's voice taunting them.
"Let's see ya try and get mushy here!"

As Clark looked about, Lois looked at Clark.  She smiled remembering the
first
time she had ever gone to Smallville and Clark had been dressed similarly.
Except then he had worn a faded denim shirt with the sleeves rolled up
instead
of the plaid flannel shirt he now had on.  That was the only thing
different.
The jeans still fit just as well.

"Where are we, Clark?"

Clark turned to her.  "I d-d-d-d-don't ...

Lois frowned.  "Clark?  What is it?"

Also frowning, Clark tried again. "Lo ... lo-lo-lo ..."

Concerned, Lois reached for his arm.  "Clark! Why are you stuttering?"

"B-b-b-b-b ..."

Driven by a sudden impulse, Lois stepped forward and kissed him, long and
deep.  When she stepped back, she smiled, keeping her hands on either side
of
his face "You were saying?"

Taking a deep breath, Clark looked into her eyes and spoke, this time
without
stuttering.  "I have no idea why I was stuttering, honey.  Maybe because
*this* character feels so insecure around you ..."

"Insecure?"

Clark nodded.  "Yeah.  Look at you."  He stepped back and took in her simple
calico dress and her shoulder-length hair curling around her face.  She made
a
pretty picture against the earthy colors of the forest around them. Clark
sighed.  "You're so self-assured, so confident.  I mean, traveling around
the
Cape in a boat ... all the way to Seattle ..."

Lois' eyes widened.  "Seattle?"  A familiar memory scratched her mind.  She
looked once more at Clark, his hair a little past his collar, a lop-sided,
slightly shy grin on his face.  "Oh my gosh, Clark, you're Bobby Sherman!"

Clark shook his head and frowned.  "No, honey ... I'm Clark Kent."

Lois grinned.  "Well, yeah, sure.  But in *this* show that Mozzarella zapped
us into, you're Jeremy Bolt ... the character that Bobby Sherman played on
HERE COME THE BRIDES.  He stuttered."  She looked at him, her face bright
with
a smile.  "At least he did until he admitted that he loved Candy Pruitt."

Clark grinned and pulled Lois into his arms.  "And I'm assuming that Candy
loved Jeremy?"

"You betcha."  She sighed.  "Y'know, I had such a crush on Bobby Sherman.  I
always wondered what it would be like kissing him."

Clark chuckled.  "Thank goodness for teen idols."

Lois smiled brightly.  "And the fantasies they ... inspire."

"Yeah."

They leaned toward each other.

As their lips lightly touched, a groan echoed through the forest.  "NOOOO!"

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<Mackteach>

<CLICK!>

The sudden shift threw them both off-balance for a moment.  Now they were in
a
courtroom, and everything was literally shades of black and white.  Clark
stood by a wooden table, dressed in a dark suit, white shirt, and black tie.
He looked at Lois, taking in her fifties-style outfit, a pencil poised in
her
hand.

The stentorian tones of someone speaking drew his attention.  "Your Honor,
the
prosecution rests."

Lois and Clark watched as the gentleman sat down next to a gray haired man.
Clark's hearing tuned in and he heard the attorney whisper, "Let's see Mason
get out of this one, Tragg."

Eyebrows raised, Clark leaned over to Lois.  "OK.  Now that imp has me
playing
PERRY MASON and judging from your steno pad, you're Della Street.  What
now?"

Lois thought for a moment.  "I've got an idea.  Instead of serious drama,
let's give him farce, shall we?  Play along with me on this, okay?"

Clark winked and nodded.

"Mr. Mason?"  The judge drummed his fingers on the arm of his chair.

Straightening, Clark adjusted his suit jacket and addressed the judge.  "I'm
sorry, Your Honor. I was --"

"No, Perry, don't!"

Every head turned at the sound of Lois' voice.  Standing, she rushed toward
Clark.  "I can't let you do this, Perry.  I can't keep this secret any
longer." Lois paused dramatically, knowing that every eye on the courtroom
was
on her.  "Oh, Perry.  Your client is ... is ..."

Judge Mxyzptlk leaned forward, grinning. "Go ahead, Miss Street.  What about
Mr. Mason's client?"

"You have to understand, Your Honor.  I did this for Mr. Mason.  I *had* to
because ... because ..."

Smiling at Lois' theatrics, Clark interrupted.  "Oh, Della!  How could you?"

Lois turned to Clark, her eyes wide, her face serious for all to see.
Except
Clark.  Focusing, he saw the muscles around her mouth twitch in her efforts
to
keep from smiling.  "Perry, I did it for you.  For us."

His face matching hers in seriousness, Clark pulled Lois into his arms.
"Hush.  It will be all right, sweetheart.  I'll defend you."

Lois buried her face in Clark's chest.  "I knew you would, darling."

"Just one thing, Della."

Looking up at Clark, her eyes soft, Lois sighed dramatically.  "Anything, my
love."

The judge rolled his eyes before banging his gavel.  "Enough of this
sickeningly sweet melodrama!   Geez, you'd think this was Ally McBeal or
something like that.  Miss Street.  You were about to say something about
Mr.
Mason's client."

Turning to the judge, Lois' eyes widened and she blinked innocently.  "I
was?"

"Yes."  Mxyzptlk reached for the remote control.  "I'm getting pretty tired
of
this."  He aimed the remote at Lois and Clark.

Shrugging her shoulders, Lois nonchalantly answered.  "Oh.  Um, he's dead
..."

<CLICK!>

<Misha>

"...Jim," Klein intoned as he slowly rose from his position next to the
cooling red-shirted body on the dusty planet surface.

Clark bit back 'You get his tri-corder, I'll get his wallet' and looked
around
instead.

Jimmy stood beside them, solemnly observing the little gathering around the
un-named ensign. "So it appears, Doctor."

Clark glanced at the body, and then looked up. "I think we should beam back
to
the ship and, ah, gather a little more data on the situation."

Jimmy raised an elegantly arched eyebrow.

"What is it, ah, Spock?"

"That is an eminently logical course of action."

"So?"

"It is unlike you."

Clark sighed. "Let's just do it, okay?" He whipped out his communicator,
smiling at the familiar chirp. "Three to beam up, Scotty."

"Alright, Cap'n." Perry's voice, mangled by a Scottish accent, came out of
the
small device.

"Energize." Clark watched the air in front of him shimmer like a heat mirage
on the desert and the transporter room appeared around him. He started to
stride off, then realized that he had no idea how to get to the bridge.

"Jim, what do you want me to do with the body?" Klein gestured at the limp
ensign on the transporter floor.

Clark looked blankly from Klein to the ensign. "What do you usually do with
them?"

"I don't know! I'm a doctor, not a coroner!"

"Well, examine him for cause of death."

"He died of a phaser blast to the chest! Even a first year medical student
could diagnose that."

"Incorrect, Doctor."

"What do you know, you pointy-eared pin-head?"

"I know that any layman who observed the event, and not just a medical
student, would be able to arrive at such a logical conclusion."

Clark shook his head quietly and slipping out of the room and down a short
corridor, found himself on the bridge. Lois swiveled in her chair and pulled
a
large bit of metal from her ear.

Clark smiled, loving the look of her long legs in the short uniform skirt.
"I'd like to see you in my quarters, Lieutenant Uhura."

Lois smiled. "Yes, sir."

"And bring the latest communications..."

"...from Star Fleet, yes, sir."

The door slid closed behind them, and Clark pulled her into his arms. "This
is
even in keeping with the show." He nuzzled her neck and murmured, "Did you
get
it?"

Smiling triumphantly, she surreptitiously slid a small object into his hand.
"Let's get off this STAR TREK and back to our own show, shall we?"

"Mm-hmm." Clark smiled and brought his lips closer to hers. "Our regular
show?"

"I was thinking more along the lines of a private show that isn't even on
the
cable to be scrambled." Lois inched her fingers up Clark's shoulders to his
neck.

"Mmm. I like that idea." Clark's lips met hers softly.

The imp popped into existence next to them, waving his remote wildly. "No,
no,
no!" I keep telling you and telling you and telling...oops."

Lois and Clark grinned behind their kiss as Clark brought up the replicated
remote and pointed it at Mxy.

<CLICK!>

Lois eased her lips away from Clark with a soft sigh, and opened her eyes.
The
familiar shadows of their living room snuggled around them. Clark glanced
over
at the TV screen. Nothing remained of their tormentor but sizzling snow.

He turned back to her. "I don't think I'll want to watch TV for a month!"

Lois smiled up at him. "At least we didn't get into a football game. I don't
think I could have jumped around in a cheerleader's skirt for very long."

Clark grinned. "Not even a Midwestern game?"

Lois met his grin and raised it. "You don't play for Midwestern anymore."
She
poked his chest. "You told me you had to fake a knee injury your senior year
so you could go off and rescue that cargo ship in the South Atlantic."

Clark chuckled. "Want to see my scar?"

Lois laughed. "I'll show you mine if you show me yours."

"Now that's the sort of show I could watch all night."

<Mackteach>

Lois smiled, her eyebrow raised.  "Now, who said anything about *watching*,
hmm?  I was thinking ... interactive."

Clark grinned.  "Really?  Interactive?  Lemme get my PlayStation that I got
--"

The rest of his statement was halted by Lois' hand over his mouth.  As he
looked at her through wide eyes, she softly traced his lips before moving to
caress and stroke the side of his face.

"Clark," she whispered, the sound low and husky.  "You've got your
PlayStation
right here ..."  Her voice trailed off even as her hand moved downward along
his throat and over his T-shirt, feeling his muscles through the soft
material.  She looked down at her hand, watching it with idle curiosity as
she
stroked his chest, the cotton of his shirt rubbing against his sensitive
skin.

She leaned toward him, feeling his arms come around her to pull her closer.
As she closed her eyes, her lips pressed lightly against his.

Clark groaned, tightening his embrace and immediately deepening the kiss.
His
hands slipped under her shirt, caressing her back, marveling once more at
the
silky smoothness of her skin.  Hearing her moan softly into his mouth and
feeling her restless movements against him, he shifted beneath her to a more
prone position on the sofa, keeping Lois on top and against him.

As the kiss continued, their hands fumbled at their clothing, both of them
needing ... wanting ... craving ... the feel of their bodies against each
other.

Lois broke off the kiss.  "Clark," she gasped.

"Yeah?"

"Forget slow and easy ..."

"Yeah."

*       *       *

As always, they lay basking in the warmth of the afterglow of their
lovemaking.  Lois' fingers traced random patterns on Clark's chest.  Clark's
hand stroked her arm.

At his sigh, Lois raised her head and smiled at him.  "What?"

Clark returned the smile with one of his own.  "I was just thinking."

At the sight of that perfect, loving smile, Lois felt her heart do
cartwheels.
God, how she loved this man.  "Thinking about what?"

Clark chuckled.  "That what we do ... *every time* we do it ..."

"Yeah?"

"It's better than Pay-Per-View."

Their soft laughter mingled with the low hiss of the still flickering
television. Without taking his gaze from Lois, Clark retrieved the remote
and
aimed it at the TV set.

<CLICK!>

THE END
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IHi everyone <g>

The IRC Round Robin writers have been at it again, and as a result I have
the
pleasure of posting our latest stories.

The first is "Auld Aquantance" our  New Year's Eve's story. In it Lois and
Clark have decided to ring in 1999 by attending a party aboard Franklin
Stern's yacht along with the usual suspects from the Planet and a sizable
chunk of Metropolis's rich and
famous.  But things are hardly smooth sailing when hijackers threaten not
only
to harm the passengers, but destroy Superman as well.

The second is "Mxyed Signals" which was inspired by the a recent story in
the
Superman comics. In it Mr. Mxyzptlk returns to bedevil Lois and Clark, by
interrupting their cozy evening at home with a trip into TV land.

 We enjoyed writing these stories and we hope you enjoy reading them. As
always
 comments are welcome .

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 Eileen
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You know, I am really glad that I joined this group.  I had a really bad
on Fri because some womam with whom I was familar with earlier on in
1998 here on the net told me never to go to her website again.

But, just like my on-line David Cassidy friends, you guys made me
realize that there are more good people on line than people with no
sense of humour.

What a kettle of fish I sure opened up by asking about how come the NK
people learned English fast.

I have really enjoyed this thread.

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I hope someone out there can help me. I am trying to send someone an
internet birthday card, and I can't seem to find any web sites that
have cute ones(it is for a boys 18th birthday). If any of you know of
a website that you think would have a good card to send, you could
e-mail me personally with the site.
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At 04:19 PM 1/12/1999 -0500, zoomway wrote:
>In a message dated 1/12/99 8:12:22 AM Central Standard Time,
>carvalho@LEXMARK.COM writes:

[snip]

>>>>I think they could have done a better job with it, as Debby Stark did
with her 5
>alternate stories on this subject. You have to read it if  you haven't
done it
>yet.<<<<

[Zoomway replied]

>Is that what the below excerpt is from, but in screenplay format that was
>posted during the great wedding arc debate?
>
>>>>Scene 14, in front of Reverend Perry: Clark hesitates before he kisses
>"Lois"  but then clearly makes a valiant effort.
>        Scene 24, at reception at Daily Planet: Clark - "Mom, there's
>something really<<<<

No, the above was part of a reply to a misunderstanding during the "wedding
arc" thread we had going a few weeks back.

My five-part rewrite was in reply to a boisterous, on-list discussion quite
a few people had back when the "wedding" episodes first aired.

>I wondered why he went ahead and married her if he was already clearly
>suspicious, but I decided he wanted to hang onto the wedding gifts <g>

If you have time (and I know how that is) read my stories. They're on my
site as well as available from me via email. I think it makes more sense
and (tooting my own horn) Clark comes out looking like a hero instead of
zero.

>That's
>why fanfic is great though. With no network saying "nope, you can't do
this"
>or actors saying "nope, I don't want to do this, change it", fanfic can
>achieve things network television realistically never could and never will.

Some network... well, most "major" networks never could and never will and
don't want to. Others do, which is why the networks are continually loosing
ratings.

...and that's all of this email thread that concerns me :)

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark Stories
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In a message dated 99-01-12 20:31:22 EST, ccsupec@HELEN.OIT.GATECH.EDU
writes:

<< All I remember is that I didn't know how far
 France was but I could do one heck of a short-term memory dump. >>

LOL. I liked those tests where they made you fold up patterned boxes in your
mind (they were flat, unfolded on the paper) and say which sides would touch
and stuff like that...
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Hi!

I'm feeling kinda guilty, because I haven't really contributed anything to
this list, so I threw this together (ok, not really...).  Anyway, this is my
fifth fanfic (the fourth one hasn't been uploaded yet, neither has this
one),
and I hope you enjoy it!

-Rachel M.  :)
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Sounds of War
by Rachel M.  (Scardno007@aol.com)
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        Boom!...Boom!...Crash!... The far-off sounds of fighting
reverberated across
the newsroom at the Daily Planet.  As a crowd of reported gathered together
around the window to see if they could witness more of the explosion, Perry
White stepped out of his office.
        "Let's go, people!  What's more important, that ruckus outside, or
the
newspaper we have to publish in half an hour?"  The group stared at him
blankly.  Perry glanced out the window just in time to see a trickle of
smoke
start to drift upwards many miles away.  "I see your point."
        "Chief?"  Perry turned around to view a young man of about 24.  He
had tears
in his eyes.
        "What is it, Jimmy?"  The young man looked away at an invisible
object,
wondering if he was going to be able to reveal his bad news or not.
        "I...I just drafted, Chief."  The older man paused, waiting for the
words to
sink in.  They didn't.
        "You what, Jimmy?  Did I hear you correctly?"  The tears the brimmed
Jimmy's
eyes finally spilled out.  Once was enough.  He couldn't say it again.
        "You heard what I said."  Perry was suddenly aware that the whole
newsroom
was gone quiet.  These people were having as tough a time as he was.  They
all
loved Jimmy as much as he did.  Jimmy sat down in a chair close by, as he
realized his knees were in danger of collapsing.  The elevator ding made a
few
heads turn, except for those who were still caught up in the moment.  When
Lois Lane and Clark Kent stepped out, many of the occupants noticed another
layer of tragedy envelope the room.  Perry didn't like leaving Jimmy to fend
for himself against the torrent of questions bombarded upon him, seeing as
there *were* reporters present, but he noticed Lois motion for him to follow
her, so he had to go.
        "I'll be right back, son."  Perry stepped into his office as Lois
closed the
door behind them.
        "What's the matter with Jimmy?" she asked.
        "He got drafted.  The poor boy doesn't deserve to be drafted at such
a young
age.  His life will be so marked by this he won't be able to recognize it
anymore after it's all over.  If he lives, that is."
        "Actually, that's what I came here to talk to you about."
        "What, if Jimmy's gonna live?"
        "No...Clark got drafted, too." Perry drew in a sharp breath.  Jimmy
was bad
enough, but now Clark?"  He didn't understand.
        "I don't understand it.  They've already got all the help they need.
Those
military people couldn't possibly need anymore men."
        "I don't understand it, either.  It's not fair.  Two fairly young
men ripped
away from their jobs, families, and basically their whole lives, so they can
skip right into a "kill or be killed" scenario.  Stupid war."  Perry tried
to
listen to Lois as she lengthened her explanation of how much she detested
wars, but he couldn't.  When he glanned out his window and saw Clark looking
forlorn as he talked to Jimmy, he couldn't help but let out a tiny,
strangled
sob.  Lois, meanwhile, had noticed the two young men, too.  She watched
Clark,
not hearing anything, but seeing his mouth move.  he had the most devastated
appearance...

        "So you see, Jimmy, that's why we need to go fight for our country.
You
don't want to see the good ole U.S. lose against those Germans and Japanese,
do you?" (Author's note: By this time, the USSR has already switched sides.)
Jimmy slowly shook his head.  "Good. When are you going down to the
recruiting
office?"
        "Tuesday."
        "Me, too!  Now we can go down there together. See? It's not going to
be so
bad."   'If only..." Clark thought.
        "Yeah, I guess so.  But I can't stand to think about me dying out
there,
thousands of miles from home..."
        "Then don't think about it!  And besides, perhaps they might station
us
somewhere closer to home than you think...maybe even here in Metropolis."
        "How can you be so calm about this, CK?  You were drafted, too, if
you
haven't noticed yet..."
        "Well, I think the best thing to do is to stay calm.  If I get all
worked up
about this, it'll just make it worse."  Clark, in reality, was squirming
like
a stuck pig inside.  He knew he couldn't possibly get hurt unless the
Germans
decided to use Kryptonite rays or something, but he couldn't tell that to
Jimmy...or Lois, or Perry.  He had to try and stop this war!  But if that
didn't work, he was at a dead end.  He could either fight as Clark Kent, or
Superman.  He would have to make a decision...if he couldn't stop the war,
that is.  And the Germans knew that Superman was there for everybody, not
just
the United States.  They knew that he would try anything and everything to
stop the war, and that was their advantage.  If he was so busy trying to
*stop* the war, there would be no time for him to *fight* in it, would
there.
And there was also the morales issue.  Superman is known as a nice guy,
sticking to his ethics in most cases, and *never* resolving to killing.
That
was another advantage for the Germans.  They knew it, and Clark knew it.
But
there had to be a way around all of it...he just had to find it.
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        "Next." Clark listened to the recruiter drone on in a tired voice.
He could
relate. He had been standing in line all morning with Jimmy.  And standing
in
line with Jimmy for two hours is not the best position to be in. But Clark
meant it in a nice way, of course.
        "Next." Jimmy was next, then Clark. Clark heard Jimmy state his name
and age,
but he tuned out after that, watching the antics of the young men behind
him.
They were completely oblivious to what they were getting into. If they kept
goofing around like that, they were going to get reprimanded by Mr. Morning
Person over here. Only when the recruiter said "next" for the third time did
Clark snap out of it.
        "Hey, Mac, are gonna stand around all day, or are you gonna join
this war?"
Clark looked at him blankly. "I *said,* are you gonna stand around-"
        "I heard you."
        "Well, then, c'mon. I got a ton of other guys to talk to, here."
Clark
stepped up to the table, looking at Jimmy who was standing aside, waiting
for
him.  "Name?"
        "Clark Kent."
        "Age?"
        "Twenty-eight." Clark answered the other questions that were
continuously
fired at him, waiting patiently during the few times the recruiter yelled at
the boys behind him.  When the attack finally let up, the recruiter said
something civil for a change.
        "Good luck, Mac. We're rootin' for ya." Clark gave him another blank
look.
        "Uh...thanks." But his words were lost in the din as the men called
the next
person up.
        "Hey, CK, that was great! He must like you or something!"
        "Yeah...or something." Jimmy, for some reason, thought this was
hilarous.
Clark grinned along with him. He was trying to stay cheerful, for Jimmy's
sake, but some little demon seemed to just keep eating away at him.  He had
tried talking to President Eisenhower about staying out of the war, but the
United States' leader would not listen to his reasoning. He said that the
U.S.
was already too much involved to pull out now. After Pearl Harbor, all they
could think of was getting revenge on the Japs. So Clark had tried
Mussolini,
and out of desperation, Hitler, but neither of them paid any attention. They
virtually blew him off, especially with Hitler.  Clark decided not to mess
with Mr. Morning-glory Authoritarian.  Ah, well.  What's done is done and
what's been tried has been tried. Clark looked down at the sheet of paper
the
recruiter had given him. He was enlisted in the Army. No flying planes this
time, or steering submarines. But that was okay. He'd rather be on the
ground
where he could leave unnoticeably....or so he thought.
        "Hey, CK, what do we do now?" Jimmy had to repeat his question twice
before
Clark heard him.
        "CK, is it just me, or are you day dreaming more than usual?"
        "Huh?" Jimmy laughed gleefully at having caught his friend
off-guard.
        "Never mind. What do we do next?"
        "Well, we go over to Metropolis' training base and then they'll send
us off
to God knows where to fight...what are you in?"
        "Army."
        "That's our second piece of luck this week. I'm in the Army, too."
        "At least we'll know each other."
        "Yeah, and I'm sure you'll make plenty of buddies while
training....but be
careful with your relationships, Jim.  A lot of them are going to die."
        "Yeah..." Jimmy whispered sadly. "And one of us could die, too.  I
don't
exactly want to watch you die, CK."
        "Well, Jimmy, I get the feeling that that's something you're not
going to
have to worry about."
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------------------------Approximately six weeks
later-----------------------------

        "Great job, young man, you're ready to fight. You didn't need much
training,
anyway." The Drill Sergeant passed Jimmy by with everything he'd need for
the
trip out to wherever he was going.
        "Stop by the office on your way out, and we'll give you your papers
as to
where you're headed.  Good luck."
        "Thanks, Drill Sergeant!" The higher-ranked man gave Jimmy a stern
look.
        "...Sir."
        "That's better. Make sure you don't make a habit of that, or you're
gonna get
in heaps of trouble out there."
        "Yes, sir." But Jimmy's words were not heard. Clark was next in
line, and the
Drill Sergeant was practically in tears.
        "And *you,* my boy, give 'training' a whole new meaning!  You've
taken it to
the next level...literally. My sincere thanks to you, and I'm sure you'll do
whatever's possible to keep yourself from getting killed. When you get back,
you're staying! You could become a General!"
        "Thanks, anyway, sir, but I already have a job..." Clark looked at
Jimmy with
a meaningful look. Even the Drill Sergeant noticed it.
        "...Right...well, good luck!"
        "Thanks."  The Sergeant completely forgot to tell Clark to check by
the
office on his way out.
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        "Bye, son....we're gonna miss ya." Perry's eyes brimmed with tears
knowing
this could very well be the last time he saw Jimmy or Clark, not to mention
some of his other young male employees.  He enveloped Jimmy in a huge bear
hug, and shook Clark's hand.  (Clark refused to let Perry hug him, fearing
that he would crush his bones in his state of anxiety.  "Do us proud,
Kent...we'll have a welcome home party and a front page headline waiting for
you if...when you get back." Clark gave Perry's hand a squeeze and then
turned
to Lois, who at the time was hugging Jimmy. When she released him, she
turned
to look at Clark. He knew what was coming next. 'Bye, partner, see you if
you
ever get back. Don't accidently shoot yourself.' He braced himself for what
was to come, but discovered that no piercing words were being thrown at him,
but instead a pair of arms...right around his neck.  He was surprised.  He
hadn't expected this. But what really made him list his eyebrows was what
came
next.
        "I'm really gonna miss you, Clark.  I thought I'd never admit it,
but now I
realize that if you don't come back, I'm not going to be able to handle
it..."
Clark was speechless. How was he to reply? "I love you, Lois, and I just
wanted to make sure you knew that before I left...oh, yeah, and I'm
Superman,
so you don't have to worry."? No, that wouldn't work.  But he didn't want to
leave her thinking that he could die. It would break his heart to think of
her
worrying about him. He would have to write her lots of letters to ease her
conscience...why couldn't he come up with enough courage to tell her the
truth?  He would certainly leave without her worrying about him, but it
would
also leave her extremely angey...at least, that's how he thought she'd
react.
He skipped back into reality for the moment, not wanting to think about that
when he had Lois in his arms.
        "God, Lois, I don't want to leave. I just wanna stay." Clark heard
himself
talk, and realized he sounded like a little boy with the end of summer
vacation just around the corner. He knew he couldn't stay, but that's what
he
wanted to do. He wanted to stay with Lois.
        "I know...I know." Clark felt Lois' hands moving around on his back.
He just
wanted to stay like this forever, holding Lois.
        "Lois, please don't worry about Jimmy and me.  We're going to be
fine. I'm
going to watch Jimmy like a vulture, and I'll make sure he doesn't die, even
it means me instead of him..."  'This is true," thought Clark, "if they're
using Kryptonite rays..."
        "What about you? What will happen to you?"
        "Don't worry about me...I'm a big boy, I can take care of
myself...." Clark
watched that statement draw a small grin out of Lois. "I'm coming back...I
promise."
        "How can you be so sure?  How can I believe you when you're going to
fight in
a *war,* for crying out loud?"  Clark wondered about his answer for a
minute.
Should he tell her now, in front of the eyes, ears, and *mouths* of
Metropolis?  Sure would be risky...no doubt there was a snitch around.
        "Lois...I promise.  If that ever means anything to you, let it be
now.  When
I say I'm coming back...I'm coming back.  Okay?"  Lois looked skeptical,
then
forlorn, and then looked at Clark with such trust in her eyes, he was taken
aback.
        "...All right.  Just come back, Clark...I don't want to lose you."
Clark let
Lois go, then changed his mind and leaned forward and kissed her on the
cheek.
He stepped back and turned around, and started to walk away, with his hand
still touching Lois' cheek.  When his hand finally slipped away, Lois looked
up at Clark one more time. She couldn't believe that feeling she was having.
All at once, in one moment, she had started feeling something more for this
man than just friendship.  He was looking at the floor, so Lois knew he was
crying.  Men always do that when they're crying.  What happened next was an
impulsive action.  She grabbed Clark by the arm and pulled him back into her
embrace. Clark looked surprised, so she took adavantage of the moment.  Not
even thinking twice about it, she pulled him closer to kiss him....but his
hat
was in the way.  She smiled and raised her hand up to take it off, but by
this
time Clark was aware of what was going on.  He smiled, too, and took his hat
>from Lois.  And then, in unison, they leaned foward and their lips met.  No
one seemed to notice that Clark had dropped his hat.
        Both Lois and Clark savored the fireworks that seemed to surround
them in
bright colors.  Clark's heart was leaping with joy and relief, and Lois'
brain
was turned off for once....All she could comprehend was that she was kissing
Clark...and it felt so *right!*  Then, it was over as fast as it had begun.
The fireworks slowly died away, but the feeling both of them had in common
didn't.
        Perry, Jimmy, and most of the newsroom watched this rare exchange
with
amusement.  They'd probably have to pick Clark up and carry him out, or at
least pry the two apart with a crowbar.
        Lois watched the stars in Clark's eyes dance around, and both of
them knew,
at that moment, that they had found their match.  No doubts, or regrets,
only
the feeling you get when you're certain something is right, and you're going
to make sure it's right.  The only problem was, neither of them would admit
it
to the other.  Clark wanted to peer into Lois' soul for eternity, but he
knew
that if he didn't leave now, he'd never be able to.
        "Good-bye, Lois." If he had said anything else, he would've really
embarrassed himself.  He lingered for just a second more, then strolled up
the
ramp to the elevator.  Jimmy followed close behind with a huge grin on his
face, depsite the knowledge of what was to come. Lois watched Clark push the
call button for the elevator.  He sure did look smart in that uniform. It
wasn't fancy, for the manufacturers had had to make thousands of others just
like it, but she didn't mind. It still looked good on him.  Just then, the
elevator doors opened, and Clark, Jimmy, and some other fellow employees
dressed like them stepped in.  Clark looked at Lois one last time as the
doors
closed.
        Lois knew that would be last she'd see of him for quite a long time.
---------------------------------------------------------------

        As soon as the elevator doors closed and locked, Clark unbuttoned
the top
button of his his shirt.  The level of the tension in the newsroom had been
excruciatingly sitfling.  The other smiling people in the elevator said
nothing to prevent any further embarrassment, except, of course, for Jimmy.
        "Hey, CK, that was *so* cool!  Man, that was great!... You're one
lucky guy,
because if I ever had a girl who looked like Lois, thought like Lois, jeez,
it- OOMF!"
A sympathetic movie critic elbowed Jimmy in the stomach, and suddenly Jimmy
didn't feel like talking anymore...he wasn't even sure if he still could...
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        "JIMMY!  Don't leave me now, *please!* You can't just leave me here
all by
myself!"
        "Gee-whiz, CK, I'm right here! Quit shouting!"
        Clark was startled awake. He looked drowsily around and saw Jimmy's
arm
descend from the top bunk and start waving around near his face.  Clark
pushed
it away and stood up to see Jimmy.  He looked similarly bedraggled.
        "Sorry, Jimmy, I must've been dreaming."
        "Well, dream more quietly next time, okay?"  Jimmy turned over and
started
snoring almost immediately.  They had been riding on the train since 1 A.M.;
both headed to London to back up the Great Britain soldiers. The Germans
were
pressing hard, and they were having trouble holding them back. With France
already conquered, things looked pretty dim for the few that were left to
fight the hordes pouring into Great Britain. Clark sighed and got back into
his bunk.  He stared at the bottom of Jimmy's bed for awhile, wondering
about
the future. Would he ever see Lois, Perry, and Planey again? Or his mom and
dad? He remembered saying goodbye to all of them, and the sad feelings
started
to return. But he didn't have time to get depressed, because sleep overtook
him before he could even blink.
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 "I'll visit everyday..."
        "Yeah, right...you're gonna fly across the Atlantic Ocean every
day?" Jimmy
teased.
        Clark almost said yes.  "I'll get Superman to fly me....and I'm sure
he'll be
glad to bring everyone over, as a matter of fact..."
        "Really?"
        "I'll take care of it personally."  Clark saluted smartly.  Jimmy
saluted
back with vigor, and Clark ran out of the room, dashed out of the hospital,
and jumped up into the sky joyfully, knowing that he was finally headed for
home!....
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        Perry watched Lois greet the messenger with a nod, and saw him hand
her a
telegram.  Lois' eyes met Perry's, and she looked extremely worried.  Perry
calmly walked out of his office, hoping to God that it wasn't a death notice
or anything like that.  Lois opened the telegram slowly, determined not to
lose her nerve.  She scanned the text, and then smiled with relief.  She
handed it to Perry, and then exclaimed, "This is great!"  After Perry had
read
the letter himself, he looked at Lois incredulously.
        "Lois, the telegram says that Jimmy is at a hospital in Great
Britain with
minor injuries...how could this be great?"
        "Because it wasn't about Clark or him dying, and now it means that
he can
come home...he doesn't have to fight anymore!  Remember about D-Day?  That's
bascially victory for our side!  That means *everyone* can come home!"

        Clark watched Lois prance around her desk happily.  No one had
noticed him
yet, and he was thankful for that.  He had stopped momentarily by a
particular
small town in Kansas to let his parents know that he was back, and then he
had
flown non-stop to Metropolis.  He smiled as he saw all the familiar
faces...most of them women, with a few men to old to fight, including Perry.
He breathed in the smell of the newsroom he had missed so much over the long
months, and wondered when Lois would notice him.  He was not a very patient
man.
        That was when Lois *did* see him.
        Lois looked at the figure at the top of the ramp near the coffee
machine,
holding a hat in his hand, and still wearing a uniform.  He looked haggard
and
weary, and for a moment she wasn't even sure it was him.
        Clark thought that she looked just as beautiful in reality as she
did in the
frequent dreams he had had while away.  Perhaps a little bit more tired-
looking than before, but he didn't mind.  It was her just the same.
        All heads in the newsroom swiveled to look at Clark Kent, one of the
many men
they had not seen in a long time, and then back to look at Lois Lane, who
looked happier than they'd *ever* seen her.
        Clark noticed Lois start walking towards the base of ramp, and as
quickly as
she did it, it still seemed like forever.  His head started jumping around,
as
if he were drunk, and a wonderful feeling enveloped his whole body.  He
wondered if he was going to be able to keep his feet from running down the
ramp on their own account.  He was having a hard time keeping from fidgeting
as it was.
        "Hey there, partner."  Lois grinned wryly, and then crossed her arms
teasingly.
        "Hey," Clark replied softly.  Then, he didn't have any comprehension
of what
happened next.
        Lois' feet were starting to twitch.  Suddenly, she didn't care if
the whole
world was watching her...she ran up that ramp as quickly as she could, and
collapsed into the arms that belonged to the man she loved.
        Clark had watched Lois run up the ramp, and he opened his arms wide
to
welcome her.  He faintly heard clapping, but then he heard nothing except
the
beating of his heart and the beating of the one inside of the woman he
loved.
He squeezed her tightly and closed his eyes as he felt the feeling come
back,
the one he had looked forward to for so long.
        Lois was in heaven. She had missed him so much! She had missed the
feeling of
his arms around her, and the way he made her think.  She couldn't have cared
less about *anything* going on around her...all she cared about was the man
holding her lovingly against him.  She had completely forgotten about the
plan
she had meaned to carry out as soon as she saw him.  Now she was making it
all
up as it went, and she thought to herself, 'This is what love really is.
I've
never felt *real* love before, but if I ever know what love feels like, I
bet
this is it.'  And Lois isn't a person to waste time, and miss perfectly good
opportunities.  So she leaned backwards to look into Clark's eyes, and saw
something she'd never really seen before.  A look of love, joy, sadness,
concern, and agony all at once.  But the one thing she saw the most was
love...love for her, she knew.  In response to this, she put as much love as
she could in her own eyes, similar to that of a "Precious Moments" doll, and
leaned forward.
        Clark had opened his eyes as soon as he'd felt Lois pull away
slightly.  He
had looked into her eyes, and unleashed everything he'd encountered during
the
war.  He thought he had heard Lois acknowledge this, but maybe it had just
been his imagination.  Then he saw the most beautiful look that anyone had
ever given him.  He had seen a lot of looks before, recieved from other
people: awe, anger, hatred, admirance, gratefulness, and many others.  But
he
had never been lucky enough to recieve such a look of true love from anyone,
not even his parents.  Oh, he knew they loved him, but they didn't count...
Then, after looking into her eyes for a surprsingly short time (at least in
his clock-spinning world), he saw her lean forward, inch by inch....
        Then they leaned towards each other together, and their lips met in
a soft,
gentle kiss.  Then, Lois pulled back to look at Clark again, and, up close,
she saw something she'd never seen before. Perhaps it was the jar of
feelings
that had woken up her brain, or maybe just all the excitement from first,
the
telegram, and now, Clark showing up.  But she looked past the glasses and
saw
a man whom she'd admired ever since he'd shown up, one who saved other
people,
and one who'd saved her in many ways.  She realized she should be kicking
and
screaming right now, but she wasn't.  This was the same man.  She was
looking
into the eyes of a man whom she'd admired ever since he'd shown up, a man
who
saved other people, and one who'd saved her in many ways...
        She now knew that the meaning of hesitation was nonexistent, at
least for
her.  She practically lunged forward, and met Clark's lips with passion, and
she kissed him like she'd never kissed any other man before.  He was the one
and *only* man in her life now, and she was going to make sure he knew that.
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        At Lois and Clark's wedding eight months later, Jimmy was flirting
with a
bridesmaid when Clark appeared beside him.
        "Hey, CK!  How's the groom on this glorious day?"
        "Nervous." Clark straightened his tie, smiling as he remembered that
happy,
happy day eight months ago.  "How's the leg?"
        "Starting to feel like normal again."
        "That's good."  Clark didn't hear Jimmy's reply, because now he had
something
else on his mind.
        He walked up to the doors that led into the sanctuary of the church,
and
paused for a second to self-conciously straighten his tie again...even
thought
it was about as straight as it was going to get.  He then opened the doors
with one swift swing, and confidently walked staight towards the alter,
where
he and Lois would be standing together, he knew, not even minutes from now.
        He looked out at all the smiling faces, where he recognized a lot of
them.
Co-workers, friends, close family, distant relatives....even a former
girlfriend or two.
        'Ouch," Clark thought, worrying if Lois would notice them.
        He looked at all these people who cared for Lois and him, and
realized that
*this* was what he had fought for.  Love, peace, happiness, harmony... all
of
them shining out of all these people.  Then, the doors at the back opened,
and
out stepped the most radiant one of them all....and Clark knew that this was
what he had been dreaming about all these years...this was what he wanted.
And he was one of the lucky ones that ever got what they really wanted.
        The war might've been hard to get through, but it was worth it to
come home
to these caring people.  He had fought for a worthy cause...and would do it
again in a second.

THE END  ;)
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        Clark stared around him in amazement. If he looked to his left, he
saw young
men frolicking in the snow, and when he turned to his right, he saw men his
age and older playing cards.  They were making the best of the situation,
and
he was proud of them for it. He was especially happy for Jimmy. His young
friend had brightened up once they had stopped early in the morning to
refuel.
He had already found some friends, and now they were having a snowball
fight.
Clark picked up some snow and packed. He aimed carefully and threw it at
Jimmy, but missed him by inches, and instead hit the young man chasing Jimmy
>from behind.
        "Hey, CK wants to play!" Jimmy bounded up beside him and stuffed a
snowball
in his face.
        "You're asking for it, Jimmy..." Jimmy just burst out laughing.
        "You look pretty intimidating there, CK, with snow all over your
face!" Clark
growled and chased Jimmy all over the field, with a pack of men chasing both
of them.
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        About half an hour later, Jimmy brushed the snow of his clothes and
put his
hands into his pockets to warm them up.  He felt something in his right one,
so he pulled it out to look at it.  It was a picture of Lois. He wondered
why
he had a picture of Lois in his pocket. But then he remembered that he had
borrowed a pair of pants from CK because the knees in his were torn.  He
jumped up from the ground and raced over to Clark, who was still pelting
snowballs at their newfound friends.
        "Hey, CK!"
        "Yeah?" Clark stopped throwing to acknowledge Jimmy, but as soon as
he did,
he was beaned right in the head.  "Time out!" He had to yell at them a few
more times before they actually stopped.
        "Okay, what is it?"  Clark smiled at the flushed Jimmy.
        "I found this in your pocket." Jimmy handed the picture over to
Clark and
grinned from ear to ear.  Clark looked down at the object Jimmy had given to
him, and immediately smiled wider.
        "Thanks, Jimbo." All of a sudden, there was a horde of boys looking
over
Clark's shoulder.
        "Wow, she's a looker, pal!"
        "Yeah, where'd you dig her up, heaven?"
        "You could say that," Clark replied quietly.  Cat-calls sounded, but
two
minutes all of them were uninterested and they all jumped onto the train.
Clark gave Lois' picture a tender look before depositing it in his own
pocket.
        Jimmy just grinned some more.
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        "Psst! Jim! Set yeself down dere, boy! Did ye not see t' Cap'n put
his han'
up?!"
        "Sorry, Melv, I wasn't paying attention..."  Melvin Coruggurs shook
his head
in disappointment.
        "Ye got to pay attention to yon Cap'n, or he'll have your head on a
silva
platta!"  Melvin looked up just in time to see Captain Murphy make a zipper-
like moion across his lips. The leader had another hunch.  He duck-walked to
the bend in the road and looked around it. Almost immediately, a torrent of
bullets whizzed past his head.  He jumped back and signaled the soldiers to
their designated positions.  He didn't want to take any chances with this
one.
He had already lost too many men. He waited a few more seconds, then put his
hand up again.  Jimmy, Melvin, and the others raised their guns.
        Captain Murphy let his hand drop.
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        Melvin giggled. "Hehehe...I bet those Germans thought it was rainin'
bullets
today!"
        Jimmy wasn't as enthusiastic as his fellow figher.  "Yeah...I'm
sure." He
wasn't very happy with the fact that he had killed someone.  Someone who
probably had a family and a job waiting for him back home. Perhaps even
someone who hadn't even wanted to fight in the first place, but had to, just
like himself.  Jimmy realized that he had killed a human, someone exactly
like
him, with feelings, and maybe compassion towards fellow men.
        He had learned an important lesson that day. Nothing was ever worth
killing
for.
        "Hey, Jim, ye alright?" Jimmy tried to rid his head the awful
memories from
earlier that day.
        "Yeah, I'm all right, Melv."
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        Clark wasn't having a very good day, either.  he had been put in a
different
platoon than Jimmy, and the only time he got to see him was when they came
back to camp from their daily patrols.  They were making adequate progress,
and they kept on pushing even when a cloud of despair seemed to loom over
them
all.  He had had only one or two chances to get away as Superman, and even
then he had only been able to help a little. All of this killing around him
was bothering him. And it seemed, even getting away from it all had its
downsides.  Both times when he had gotten back, he had been reprimanded;
first
for being tardy; second for not hustling.  The Captain was not to pleased.
Oh,
of course Clark had apologized repetitively, but it did no good.  No excuse
ever did much good in the Army. He was set to mess hall duty for a week.
That
meant cleaning up whatever slop the rest of the soldiers left behind in
their
stampede to eat and get out.  But everyone liked Clark, so they tried not to
leave a big mess.
---------------------------------------------------------------

        Jimmy watched in horror as the young man sitting next to him had his
arm
blown off by an exploding shell. The victim cried out in agony as a bullet
came within inches of Jimmy's face.  He hated this. He wanted to go home. He
wanted the war to end, so he wouldn't have to witness any more scenes like
the
one he just had. This was stupid. Be he didn't have time to criticize,
because
he was fighting for his life. All platoons had been deployed for this day.
Some were calling it D-Day, and Jimmy was beginning to see why. Doom seemed
to
be hanging over the beach. But at least he had Clark, fighting right beside
him. Jimmy sighted along the end of his gun and shot a German at the top of
what appeared to be a plateau. It was so flat, there was basically nothing
to
block his vision. He looked over on his other side at Clark, so he wouldn't
have to watch the perimedics take care of the armless man on his other side.
Clark was just as busy as he was.
        "Hey, Jim...are you thinking what I'm thinking?"
        "That this war is completely unnecessary?"
        "Exactly." Clark couldn't stand killing other people. He didn't have
to, for
the phrase, "kill or be killed" meant nothing to him.  But he was fighting
for
his country, not to mention numerous others.  That was the most important
goal
right now.  he would worry about his actions later.  Right now, the Allies
had
a war to win.

        About 3 hours later, Clark sat back in relief...they had pushed the
Axis
Powers' troops back far enough to turn things around.  Perhaps now he and
Jimmy could go home.  Clark looked around for Jimmy.  Where could he be?  He
had been just beside him a few minutes ago.
        'Uh-oh,' Clark thought, "what if Jimmy got hurt?  They probably took
him off
somewhere.  Clark slipped behind a rocky outcrop and changed into the Suit.
As he took off, he couldn't stop help but kick himself for not keeping track
of his young friend...he would never be able to forgive himselfi if Jimmy
died....
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        Clark had found Jimmy in a serious state - half-drowned in the water
off the
coast  of the beach where they'd been fighting.  Clark quickly rushed him to
a
military hospital in Great Britain that had been lucky enough not to get
destroyed.  As he set Jimmy down, he said to the nurse, "Please make sure he
lives...he's very dear friend of mine." Clark made sure there were no tears
in
his eyes to preseve the heroic image, but couldn't stop the one that managed
to squeeze out.  These past few months had been very emotional for him.  The
nurse noticed the tear and looked so sympathetic, Clark thought he was going
to be sick.  But, for some reason, he was thankful that she had noticed his
pain and anger at himself, for she said she would do whatever she could for
him while a doctor tended for Jimmy.  Clark politely refused.
        "I have other rounds to make...I need to make sure if there are any
more
survivors."  So Clark flew back across the English Channel to look for any
other remaining soldiers.  There were very few, but Clark went as fast as he
could to transport all of them back to the hospital.  As he set the last one
down, he x-rayed the wall to check on Jimmy on more time before leaving for
the base right on the coast of Great Britain. He had to report the situation
to someone....if there *was* someone....
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        "How did you get here, young man, if you were all the way over on
the coast
of France not half an hour ago?"
        Clark pondered General Smith's question a second.
        "I had Superman give me a lift, sir."
        "Ah, yes.  He's been a lot of help around here lately..."  Clark
smiled
slightly.  "Well, my boy, you're free to go, seeing as your whole platoon is
either dead or injured.  I'm sorry to hear about all your friends...I knew
that James Olsen was of particular-"
        "Oh, Jimmy's not dead...he's being taken care of at the moment."
        "Oh, yes, that's right.  Anyway, we'll have a boat come pick you up
this
evening."
        "Oh, no thank you, sir. With your permission, I would like to stay
here with
Jimmy until he gets better."
        "Of course, Mr. Kent. Let me know when I can be of service."
        "Thank you, sir, for everything, but I don't think I'll need
anything.
Superman has already volunteered to fly me back when I'm ready." Clark shook
the kind General's hand, and then left the tent.  He needed to get back to
Jimmy.
------------------------------------------------------------

        "Jimmy?" Clark looked at his friend's pale face with concern.  The
nurse said
that he was better than he had been before, but Clark wasn't so sure. Jimmy
didn't look at all far enough from danger to be completely safe.
        Jimmy opened his eyes slowly to look at Clark.  "Hey, CK..." he said
meekly.
        "How're you feeling, pal?"
        "Okay...okay." Jimmy shifted positions in the hospital bed and
immediately
groaned with pain.  Clark jumped up from his chair to help Jimmy get
comfortable.
        "God, Jimmy, I'm so sorry..."
        "...For what?"
        "For letting you get hurt like this."
        "Oh, gosh, CK...I'm not really all that hurt.  The doctor said I
just have a
few cuts and bruises, and that I got hit by a bullet ricocheting off a
rock."
        "Really?" Clark's voice became more worred. "Where?"
        "In my leg." Jimmy pushed the sheets down to show a bandage on his
lower
thigh.  "Here." He pointed at it.  Clark looked up at Jimmy, a guiltly look
on
his face.  "Gosh, CK, it wasn't your fault that I got *shot!*  Jeez, it's
okay!"  Jimmy laughed and leaned back onto his pillows.  "It was kind of
funny, actually...it just kinda jumped up and *bit* me!"  (Another Author's
Note: Reference to "Forrest Gump" unintentional..."Forrest Gump" was not out
in 1940s and 50s <g>)  Clark laughed along with his friend, relaxed, now
that
he knew Jimmy was going to be okay.
        "Anyway, the doctor says I can get outta here in a week or so..."
Jimmy
watched a disappointed look come across Clark's face.  "Why don't you go on
home...I mean, it beats staying here for another week...and I'm sure you
wanna
see *Looois...*"  Clark's head snapped up at Jimmy's jeer.
        "You're asking for it, Jimbo."  Jimmy laughed.
        "What, you're going to attack a helpless, injured soldier in a
hospital bed?"
        "Yup." Clark growled and made as if he was going to grab Jimmy, but
stopped
just in time.  Jimmy laughed again.
        "Go on home, Clark.  I'll be fine."  Clark looked at Jimmy,
reluctant to
leave.  But he sure did want to see Lois!  Clark headed for the door, but
then
turned around, suddenly feeling guilty again.
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In a message dated 1/12/99 10:54:20 PM Eastern Standard Time,
brocks_babe@YAHOO.COM writes:

<<
 I hope someone out there can help me. I am trying to send someone an
 internet birthday card, and I can't seem to find any web sites that
 have cute ones(it is for a boys 18th birthday). If any of you know of
 a website that you think would have a good card to send, you could
 e-mail me personally with the site.
 Thanks.
  >>

Hi,

Here are a couple of my favorites.  I hope you like them too.

Annie Lansbury
<A HREF="http://www.123greetings.com/"> Greeting Cards by 123Greetings.
Greeting card...</A>
  <A HREF="aol://4344:2501.webhall.26607880.557260051">Hallmark Connections
Shop</A>
 <A HREF="http://204.168.20.42/index.html">Message Mates</A>
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I guess I'll come out of lurk mode to answer this one.
I wanted to get in on the surnames & street names- but I don't have
any good ones to add.  Anyway to answer the question.  I don't think we are
strange to still hold on to such a great show.  It's really not so strange
since it's showing again on TNT.  There are now new fans to add to our
fandom.
But then what do I know- I'm still talking to my Beauty and the Beast fans
too.  We wrtie fanfic and discuss that show too.  It's been off the air for
more than 10 years I think.
What can I say?  I know what I like and I just stick with it. =)
I'm sooooooo glad we have FOLCs and I'm glad for my Beastfans too.
Now back to Lurk Mode......
Deb
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Sue wrote:

>You know, I am really glad that I joined this group.  I had a really bad
>on Fri because some womam with whom I was familar with earlier on in
>1998 here on the net told me never to go to her website again.
>
Hey, who needs her, kid? Stick with us. We think you're witty, charming,
intelligent, wonderful, sassy and a great person to know. How could you not
be? You're a FoLC! <g>

LabRat :)
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Hey gang!

Loved AULD ACQUAINTANCE - another rousing success from the team. Clark in a
kilt. Sigh. Always a winner.  I just have one teensy little nitpick though.
(And to misquote Lois, it's not really a nitpick, more of a question) <g>

Gifts are given on Hogmanay? Why was I never told of this? By my reckoning
I'm owed at least 30 odd years of back presents. Or are we talking 'first
footing' here? When it's traditional to turn up on the doorstep of
neighbors, friends and family after midnight with a sample of food, drink
and fuel (usually a lump of coal - which is extremely hard to obtain
actually in these days of central heating) as tokens of the wish that your
host is blessed with an abundance of all three in the coming year and get
invited in for drinks and nibbles.

Please advise, Zoom so that I might put in my order for compensation for
everything I've missed if necessary. ;) (And can part of my compensation be
that gorgeous guy in the corner of the room wearing the kilt, please?)

LabRat :-)

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In a message dated 1/13/99 12:46:23 AM Central Standard Time,
labrat@DIRCON.CO.UK writes:

<< Gifts are given on Hogmanay? Why was I never told of this? By my
reckoning
 I'm owed at least 30 odd years of back presents. Or are we talking 'first
 footing' here? When it's traditional to turn up on the doorstep of
 neighbors >>

Tsk Tsk, go back and read Dom's part <g> She's our technical advisor on that
story, being she's from Scotland ;)  But, here's the part that tells the
tale:

Alice went forward with a small tartan package and handed it to Mrs. Stern.
"A Hogmanay gift."

Senga looked at Franklin.  "Now I hope ya havna been putting it in their
minds
that they should be givin' things awa? That's no the way tae dae it. Only
the
firstfoot brings something to the party."

Stern looked mildly embarrassed and smoothed down the front of his kilt.  "I
may have mentioned it in passing."

See?  Stern's wife is from Scotland, but her husband (quite American) is the
one who spread the notion that "gifts" are given on Hogmanay.  This does
give
me the opportunity to thank Dom for keeping us Yanks (and Nicky, who's from
Germany, but writes and comprehends English amazingly well)  as close to
authentic as possible and for also writing a great segment.  The SCOFFer
constituency of the list (I think it stands for SCOttish Folc Fest, but  I'm
not sure) has always wanted to see Dean in a kilt, and this was as close as
we
could get <g>

MacZoomway
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mounting my hobby horse again..<g>  (after this I'll take it by private
e-mail, I promise)

OK...a score of 185 is pretty impressive, but how were your SAT scores?!
The Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children, Revised (Wechsler, 1974) is a
tried and tested means of IQ measurement, as is the version for testing
adults.

I'm sure Kryptonians would regard IQ testing in this way as very antiquated
- but, hey, it works for us.  I seem to recall (although it could well have
been in fanfic) Clark saying about SAT scores in one episode or another -
any takers?

Linzy
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In a message dated 1/12/99 6:23:09 PM Central Standard Time,
labrat@DIRCON.CO.UK writes:

<< For me, the biggest mystery about the arc was why Clark had to ask Perry
if
 Lois had ever written a secret novel. Every time I scream at the TV, "You
 should know that!". I can't help it. But it did let Perry tell Clark an
 amusing Lois ski-ing anecdote which I can just imagine and makes me laugh.
  >>

Well, Lois' "romance novel" was certainly not a secret after Strange
Visitor,
not even in Smallville <g> The next time we here about Lois' writing efforts
after Green Green Glow of Home is in Return of the Prankster where Kyle and
Victor have broken into Lois' computer.  From Victor's reaction to reading
what Lois had written, I'd say he likely found *a* novel, but not
necessarily
the one Lois had described in Strange Visitor, which was "about a woman who
dies without ever finding her true love".  What victor found was a very
steamy
novel about a woman who was having a pretty darn good time <g>  Then we move
forward to the Wanda Detroit novel, which sounded neither like a tragic
tear-
jerker romance novel, nor a steamy squirm-in-your-chair romance novel, but
rather like pulp fiction from a "sadder but no wiser" girl's viewpoint.
Where
Clark Kent literally becomes two people. One who was loving, tender and
honest, and the other, a liar, and someone she couldn't count on, and
someone
who made her feel used.

I got the feeling the show did something pretty cool with Lois'
unpublishable
literary efforts, and probably didn't do it on purpose either. The novels
seemed as if they charted Lois' changing feelings and outlooks on romance,
as
well as her outlook on Superman and Clark.  Her first novel, probably
started
by her right after Claude slept with her just to steal her story, and before
Superman started showing real attention to her, was a romantic tragedy.  The
next novel ... or attempt at one, was written when Lois was so crazy in love
with Superman, and so apparently she poured her steamy fantasies into her
word
processor where Victor came upon them  Then we come to the Wanda Detroit
novel, or what existed of it, and it was probably written some time between
The Phoenix and We Have a Lot to Talk About (before Lois found out that
Clark
was really Superman) when Clark would seem so sweet and caring one minute,
and
go dashing off with some lame excuse the next.  I think Lois' novel-writing
days ended when her tragic character who died without ever finding her "true
love", touched a handsome face one night and said, "I love you too, Clark.
You're the man I never thought I'd meet."

>>>I think that the reason a lot of FoLCs have trouble with Clark failing to
discover the clone is the 'spiritual connection', the shared soul, between
them. That is one of the most interesting and telling moments in Debby
Stark's recreation of the arc for me when it is that which tips Clark off
immediately the clone starts down the aisle. If they were connected at such
a basic level, why didn't Clark feel *something* vibrate way down deep in
his soul? But then, I guess, there's no reason to assume that even a
spiritual connection would work at 100% efficiency 100% of the time - just
like the rest of the world. Maybe the batteries died. Maybe Lex set up a
spiritual dampening signal before the ceremony. Who knows?<<<

Lois and Clark's "bond" has always fascinated me.  In first season, I'd say
the first inkling that Clark's attraction to Lois went beyond instant
chemistry or love at first sight, was in All Shook Up. He *felt* there was
more between Lois and himself than friendship, and yet Lois was telling the
truth, they were partners and friends, but *not* romantically involved. Yet
Clark couldn't seem to escape that feeling. However, in Witness, Clark (as
Superman) is telling a classroom full of kids that he has almost a sixth
sense
when it comes to knowing someone needs help. *Especially* if it's someone
close to him. *But*, at that very moment, Lois is in a *lot* of trouble, and
Clark doesn't seem to sense it at all.   So yes, I'd say their bond is
something that isn't always clocking at 100%, nor is it something either of
them really understand, "Whatever it is you've done for me that makes me
feel
so good about you" and "this thing between us, whatever it is, it's stronger
than me."

The episode 'Tempus Anyone?' came just before the wedding arc, and I'd say
that was the *first* time Clark knew what it felt like to have the bond
ripped
away from him. He becomes frantic and lost.  Lois literally left his plane
of
existence.  Once he got Lois back (after 10 seconds ;) it probably made him
feel secure that he'd know when Lois was really gone.  So, again, with the
clone, it's doubtful he felt any loss in the bond, because Lois was still
very
much alive, and still in Clark's universe. Even in Seconds when Lois thought
she was Wanda Detroit, and couldn't remember who Clark was, she longed for
him
in her dreams.

In Forget Me Not, Lois seems "distracted" by thoughts of Clark. She grills
Superman about him. She wants to know if Clark has someone. Superman tells
her
that Clark has someone he loves very much. That seems to daunt Lois for a
moment, and then she asks if she and the woman Clark loves are close, and
Superman tells her that they are very close.  I think Lois was feeling
feelings for Clark that she believed (due to what Superman told her) she
shouldn't be feeling. She was attracted to a man who was spoken for, and not
only spoken for, but by a woman she was close to. Despite that, Lois
couldn't
seem to fight her attraction to Clark, and that's who she makes a beeline
for
when she "escapes".  There seems to be a great deal of sexual tension
between
them in Clark's apartment. I think it was a little to tough for Lois to
resist, so she had to get out of there, and just like Lois of the old days
who
often used anger as an exit when things got a little too "close" with Clark,
she did the same thing in this episode.

Then we have Lois turning to Deter at the end of the episode. Don't get me
wrong, I hated that ending, and still do, but it wasn't out of character for
Lois.  She does have a glaring bit of personal history where she turned to a
man she really didn't love (Lex Luthor) because the man she wanted
(Superman)
was unattainable.  I'm not saying that's what the episode really meant,
because truthfully I saw Forget Me Not and Oedipus Wrecks as metaphors
written
by ticked off writers being forced to write something they didn't want to.
When you think about it, "Deter" isn't just an evil, unprincipled therapist,
"deter" is also a word meaning to "sway from ones' original course, usually
by
force or the use of threats" ;)

Both episodes dealt with people being victims of a numbing mind-control,
being
forced to do things against their nature and against their wills.  Oedipus
Wrecks, starting out with the mention of "Folc" on the news crawler, seemed
to
be a wink at fans, that they'd "get" the meaning of the episode.  Oedipus
Wrecks contained some great lines:

"There's light at the end of the tunnel, it's just a very long tunnel."

"I just want this thing to be over with!"

"The story you're working on is worth nothing."

"Sometimes it's not worth the wait."

"I'm not used to being this helpless."

"That was pointless. *Long*, but pointless."

"It's not gonna work!  Everything I've ever worked for is going down the
toilet!"

"This runaway train stops now!"

>>>Oh well *done*, Zoom! Have you ever thought of entering the Diplomatic
Corps?<<

How do you think I became a list mom? ;)

Zoomway@aol.com (who's pretty sure Kathy Pernisek remembers the "OW"
metaphor
;)
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Hi again!

Just thought I'd let you know that I did it on purpose when I sent out that
post... I knew some of you would answer. Thanks so much for the *very*
interesting things I've been reading. I must say though that it never ceases
to
amaze me just how Zoomway knows and remembers *so* much. I've been learning
a
lot from all her posts - present and past ones.

And as someone asked before - where and how do you find so much interesting
information on L&C?

P.S. Thanks for the tip regarding the X-files, Zoom. I'm a big fan, too.
However, that ep hasn't been televised over here in Portugal yet. I'll see
it
eventually - I *never* missed one and have them all taped, too!

Celia
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Check out the comedy central site.  Good Luck!  :)
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My parents only told me because they thought that it *PROVED* that I was
not "living up to my potential."  HA.
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You are right.
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<***If you have time (and I know how that is) read my stories. They're on
my
site as well as available from me via email. I think it makes more sense
and (tooting my own horn) Clark comes out looking like a hero instead of
zero.***>

     They were great!  I loved the Dawning series.  Is Dawning 23 out yet?
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I must admit that I'm really impressed with Zoomway's L&C knowledge too.
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ROTFL, Zoom, you really made my day!!

First this:

>>I'm afraid if my husband started acting strangely, I'd check a lot of
things
off a list before I got to "he was replaced by a clone" <g> <<

and then that:

>> Boy, this is tough to answer in a PG rated fashion <g>  However, Lois was
wearing only a robe, so could have been totally naked underneath, and men's
trousers and underwear have an accessway in the front which precludes the
need
to undress at all ... if they're in  a hurry <g><<

I think nobody could have explained it in a way that was more clear and yet
so
decent <g>.

Nicole (still laughing and wondering if her husband was replaced by a clone)

AKA CKgroupie on IRC
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Hey all you folcs out there,

or at least the ones who wrote this part.  I must say, I liked the
comparison between Lance and Lorenzo, and Lois and Clark.  Being a
stalker myself, prefering Classic Silk Stalkings, at first I was
surprised that anyone else recalled the Classics.  For those other
Stalkers out there who like Classic Silk, and yes it was a mistake to
kill off Chris, anyway, they still run the show on USA at noon, NY time.

Sam<g>
Samantha Kegan

"Where the sky is blue, the grass is green, and the golf is always good.
But the cops keep the score so you better hope you're playing under
par."

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Zoomway wrote:
>
>Tsk Tsk, go back and read Dom's part <g> She's our technical advisor on
that
>story, being she's from Scotland ;)  But, here's the part that tells the
tale:
>
>Alice went forward with a small tartan package and handed it to Mrs. Stern.
>"A Hogmanay gift."
>
>Senga looked at Franklin.  "Now I hope ya havna been putting it in their
minds
>that they should be givin' things awa? That's no the way tae dae it. Only
the
>firstfoot brings something to the party."
>
>Stern looked mildly embarrassed and smoothed down the front of his kilt.
"I
>may have mentioned it in passing."
>
>See?  Stern's wife is from Scotland, but her husband (quite American) is
the
>one who spread the notion that "gifts" are given on Hogmanay.

Ooops. Yup, apologies, you're right - I did miss this part. That's what I
get for speed reading at 5.15. am, in a cough syrup daze, with one eye on
the clock and in "Okay, okay, I'm just going to read *one* more post and
then I am *definitely* going to bed...." mode. <g>

Sigh. So........I guess this means that compensation is out then? Rats.
Foiled again.

BTW, thanks to all of the gang for MYXED SIGNALS, which was the most
hysterically funny thing I'd read in a long time. It actually made another
night of insomnia worthwhile!

LabRat :)
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Hey, it sure was a nice surprise to open my email box at 6:30 am this
morning and find two fanfictions waiting for me.

We have been getting tons of snow here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada the
last few days and it sure made facing the day better <g>

Someone on the list the other day was asking where Baby Point in Toronto
is.  Well, it is not section of town like Downsview, York, East York,
Little Italy, etc.  It is just a small area - of only two or three
streets, all connected together to form a circle.  It is south of Jane
and Bloor.

Where is that person who said there from Toronto from?  I am in the City
of York, near the Eg West Subway station and am looking for fellow FOLC
people in Toronto to get together with maybe every few months for maybe
a coffee in a public place - Mr. Greenjeans, etc.

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> We have been getting tons of snow here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada the
> last few days and it sure made facing the day better <g>

Hehe! :)  Tell me about it!

> Where is that person who said there from Toronto from?  I am in the City
> of York, near the Eg West Subway station and am looking for fellow FOLC
> people in Toronto to get together with maybe every few months for maybe
> a coffee in a public place - Mr. Greenjeans, etc.

This sounds like a great idea, Sue!  I'm from Waterloo, but I'd be more
than happy to make the short trip to TO to meet some FoLCs! :)  I can't
seem to find any in Waterloo.  Has anyone ever held an OFF (Ontario FoLC
Fest)?  If not, has anyone ever considered it?

Karen :)
who's been blissfully watching her
mailbox fill up with email from this
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At 11:39 AM 1/13/99 -0500, you wrote:
>This sounds like a great idea, Sue!  I'm from Waterloo, but I'd be more
>than happy to make the short trip to TO to meet some FoLCs! :)  I can't
>seem to find any in Waterloo.  Has anyone ever held an OFF (Ontario FoLC
>Fest)?  If not, has anyone ever considered it?

There was an Ontario fest about two years (or three?) back as I recall,
held in TO. :)  I think this is sort of neat, we're seeing a lot more
Toronto area FoLCs come out of the woodwork lately, I remember when it was
just lil' ole me for all those years...*sniff*  ;)

Sue Wrote:
> We have been getting tons of snow here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada the
> last few days and it sure made facing the day better <g>

I had to dig myself and my car out of three feet of snow this morning as
well, so I hear ya.  ;)  It's been one blizzard after another this past
week (Now all you Southern FoLCs wipe those silly smirks off your
faces...<g>)

I think I'm going to move out to LA and stay with Chris, Mack, Pat & co.
who get to be WARM this time of year. <eg>  Get those guest rooms ready
guys! ;)

About the only good thing in this blizzard has been the extra time I've had
to to sip hot cocoa and work on my Nfic muse. ;)

It's great to see some new faces (and some delurked faces ;) again.. I'm
always in awe of how this list and the FoLCs manage to hold together the
way we do.  It's pretty incredible and pretty exciting. :)

Take Care All,
Demi
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Hi guys!

I'm really enjoying these threads, and thought I'd jump in.

I've only ever written one fanfic that used original characters, a Star Trek
(TNG) tale. My major original character was based on me (at least at first -
her character changes as a result of her experiences in the story), so I
decided to use a first name that I have always liked, but which my mother
failed to name me - Annemarie, or Annie for short. Then when I was casting
about for a good last name, I took into account that I'm of partly Scottish
heritage, and came up with McGregor, which sounds kind of like my own last
name, Gray, anyway. For my original Vulcan name I noted that most Vulcan
males
on the show had five-letter names beginning with S and ending in K. So my
Vulcan is Syrok. For other characters who are human, I noted that in the
24th
century national
boundaries are blurred, and you have a Japanese botanist, Keiko, married to
an
Irish engineer, O'Brien, for eg, on DS9, so I didn't feel obligated to make
both first and last name from the same nationality. I was working as a
telemarketer when I was writing my story, so if I saw an interesting name in
the phone list I jotted it down. Then I combined first and last names
without
regard to where they originated. One character, for eg, is Robina Yamasaki,
another is Pietro Kreutzer (a half Italian-half German kid). Of course there
were a few that I wanted to be clearly of a certain nationality, so some
firsts and lasts are mono-nationality. (Is that a good word? G!)

Regarding real names and pronounciations and stuff - My mom was born in
Germany but came to Canada when she was seven. Her name was Inge Ganz, and
NOBODY could get it right. (ING-eh Gahntz, sort of. You Germans on the list
can probably find a better phonetic equivalent! BG.) Just about everyone
said
her last name as Ganzzzz. But she's been called everything from ING-ee to
ING-a to Inch to In-GAH to Inj, and, in French-speaking areas (no disrespect
intended toward my francophone friends - I'm a rampant francophile myself!
VBG) even ANJ. So she's always laughed it off and accepted whatever people
call her, saying they could always try to pronounce her middle name -
Sieglinde (Zee-GLIN-deh) - if they felt adventuresome. Of course, she ended
up
marrying my dad, Gordon Robert James Gay, and we all ended up changing our
names in 1979 by sticking an R into our last name so us kids wouldn't be
teased because of THAT handle! But I kinda wish we hadn't had to, cuz Gay is
a
good respectable Scottish name - I've actually heard that it's a sub-clan in
Scotland. Any of you on that side of the pond know if that's true?

Sorry, I seem to have gotten off on another tangent off of a tangent - I'll
shut up now!

Debra G. (AKA Annie McGregor)
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In a message dated 01/13/99 8:08:16 PM !!!First Boot!!!, demona@SHAW.WAVE.CA
writes:

<< I think I'm going to move out to LA and stay with Chris, Mack, Pat & co.
 who get to be WARM this time of year. <eg>  Get those guest rooms ready
 guys! ;) >>

Demi, my guest room is always ready, so make those plane reservations. <g>

As to fests, we've been having some sort of minifests out here. April came
to
visit about a month ago. A group of us are going to Disneyland this coming
Sunday to see Roger Cain's band, Catch22. and in March a slightly bigger
group
is getting together to see Teri in Cabaret. We'll be hitting those photo
shops
in Hollywood too. <g>

I am mostly a lurker, but I too have made many wonderful friends since I did
a
search for Lois and Clark and discovered I was not alone in loving the show.
That led to AOL, the ABC site which was wonderful while the show was
running,
fanfiction and ultimately to IRC where we still have loads of fun and write
those Round Robins. <g>

Chris (chrispat on IRC)
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At 06:46 AM 1/13/99 PST, you wrote:
>We have been getting tons of snow here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada the
>last few days and it sure made facing the day better <g>
>

I live in North Bay about 3 hours north of Toronto. I can understand about
the snow because we get dumped on every year. This year isn't too bad not
that many storms yet, but we have the cold. I know that it has been cold
down in southern Ontario, but up here it's -40 without the windchill, -50
with the windchill. Then your car won't start and you have to walk to work.
By the weekend it's suppost to be around -6 or 7, that will be considered a
heat wave here.

Tanya
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owner-loiscla-general-l@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU wrote:
OK, speaking of things that don't make sense...In DToSC, Jonathan Frakes
tells Sman & Lois that they'll talk about their feeding schedule later.
Always made me wonder (since there were no little tiny toilets in those
cages) about hygiene...or it would've gotten awfully messy in those nice,
neat cages...with Superman's cape spread out so beautifully. Also, it'd be
awfully hard to keep Superman confined *all* the time. They weren't very
smart villains, were they? (LOL)
Regina Ash
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Yeah they WERE pretty stupid, even if he WAS First Officer on the
Enterprise.
G. Maybe they figured that Superman didn't have to worry about bodily
functions. And Lois? Well, maybe they thought they could just escort her.

Debra G.
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Sue Modolo wrote:
>
> Hey, it sure was a nice surprise to open my email box at 6:30 am this
> morning and find two fanfictions waiting for me.
>
> We have been getting tons of snow here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada the
> last few days and it sure made facing the day better <g>
>
>
Hi Sue

This Sue is from Guelph, Ontario, Canada. There are more of us around
then you expect, eh?

Sue
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At 6:28 PM -0500 1/12/99, Emily Angerer Crawford wrote:
> Adult Intelligence Survey, which I only later learned
>was an IQ test, but in any case they gave us no scores because they thought
>that would be unhealthy.

My best friend was tested when she was a kid, too, and same thing, her
parents wouldn't tell her exactly.  At least at first. Turns out she tested
so high that the school counselors called a special conference with her
parents to discuss the results.  The problem?  People who tested as high as
she did stastically had pyschological problems in life and they wanted to
warn her parents to watch her. <bg>

Of course, this news caused her mom to burst into tears everytime she was
around her daughter for the next few weeks, the oddness of which caught my
friend's attention and they eventually had to tell her why Mom was so
upset.

Now, before you all start examining your IQ tests and mental health ;), my
friend is quite normal (well, as much as any of us are "normal") and in
fact is the most mentally healthy person in her family.  Definitely a case
of some overzealous school teachers with apparently just enough information
to cause problems, but not enough to know what they are talking about. ;)

As for 185 ... that is extremely high.  I think my friend's was around 170,
just by way of comparison.

Kathy

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At 04:19 PM 1/12/99 EST, you wrote:

>Neverending Battle was supposed to air *before* Strange Visitor (Clark made
a
>smooth change from Clark to Superman in that one even falling out of an
>airplane) but there was a technical problem with a special effects scene in
>Neverending Battle (Superman shooting Lex) and it had to be reshot. That's
why
>Dean has three different cape attachment styles in that episode. Due to
that
>delay, Strange Visitor, where Clark seemed to have the hang of changing
into
>Superman, aired before Neverending Battle where he didn't seem to know
*what*
>he was doing.  In some overseas markets, the airing order is corrected. I
wish
>TNT would do the same.

Yep, me too. As a matter of fact, when TNT set up its website for Lois and
Clark, I e-mailed that guy Dean Treadway, pointed out the mistake, and
suggested that they change the air order. He said, thanks for the info, but
they were going to show them exactly the way they were done originally. I
have no idea why. Would something like that be contractual? I also
mentioned that there was a longer, different edit of the Pilot out there
and it would be greatly appreciated if TNT would show it, but he'd never
even heard of the other versions. <sigh>

I think when we finally get those factory-sealed, special edition,
remastered, all-lost-footage-restored episodes on videotape (don't hold
your breath, not even if you're Superman <g>), we're going to have to
insist that they release them in the proper airing order. ;) Not just
Neverending Battle and Strange Visitor, but let's put Witness before
Honeymoon in Metropolis and All Shook Up where it belongs. That one isn't
such a glaring continuity mess as NB after SV, but still, I like things
tidy. ;) An even more subtle correction would be to make sure that
Virtually Destroyed was shown before Super Mann.  It would make that CBTFB
(Conversation Before The Floor Buffing - sorry, X-Files joke <g>) scene
more logical. Not that it kills the pleasure in any of these episodes to
have them out of order, but this is one of the few things that *can* be
changed after the fact, so why not? ;)

Georgia
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At 05:47 AM 1/13/99 EST, you wrote (about Lois' novels):

>>I got the feeling the show did something pretty cool with Lois'
unpublishable literary efforts, and probably didn't do it on purpose
either. The novels seemed as if they charted Lois' changing feelings and
outlooks on romance, as well as her outlook on Superman and Clark. >>

I totally agree that the show's use of the novels to illustrate the
different stages of Lois' feelings was probably another one of the many
happenstances that so delight me about it.  This fascinates me about the
show's evolution - how with so many cooks, the pot not only didn't get
spoiled (imo) but ended up a lot tastier than a series with a single or
dominant creator who has a plan or a 'bible' to keep things straight.

Bryce Zabel (I guess - it's always dodgy trying to attribute ideas or lines
in scripts, no matter whose name is on the screen) gave us Lois' tragic
romance and used it to set up a joke about the difference between Lois and
Clark's personalities: ("Don't you back up on floppy disks?" "This is no
time to discuss your compulsive behaviors.") and then again to lead into
that wonderful moment on the plane in Strange Visitor when Lois indirectly
confesses her fear of dying without ever finding true love, and Clark's
reassurance to her that it won't happen.

Grant Rosenberg, credited writer on Return of the Prankster (2nd season),
borrows the idea from SV(1st season) just for the fun of making a
joke/comment. I always suspected that the joke wasn't so much specifically,
or at least not only, at Lois' expense (*everybody* gets worked over in
RotP <g>) but a shot at fanfic/nfic writers. ;) (and you know who you are
<g>) By the time this episode aired, there was a good bit of *that stuff*
;) out there and the cast and crew knew about it.

But the real point is that he was aware of that first season reference,
just as ERL and BB knew of it when the clone/amnesia arc (3rd season) was
written . They used Lois' novel brilliantly, I thought. It provided a
complex plot device, character commentary, and my favorite joke in Double
Jeopardy : "What does he (Kent) look like, Wanda?" Bibbo asks, and she
replies, "I can't picture him in my mind. All I see are a bunch of words."
;)

Who could have predicted when Zabel put that first novel on Lois' hard
drive how the idea would entwine itself into the show's history?  Perhaps
in the fifth-season-that-didn't-happen-except-in-our-heads, we would have
seen another of Lois' novels.  Having to spend less time dangling over the
jaws of death would have given her more time to write - it would have been
cool to see what storyline they came up with. ;)

Zoom also said (about the bond):

>>So yes, I'd say their bond is something that isn't always clocking at
100%, nor is it something either of them really understand, "Whatever it is
you've done for me that makes me feel so good about you" and "this thing
between us, whatever it is, it's stronger than me."

This was just too good an opportunity to resist. For the benefit of the
fans who weren't with us then, here's a trip down Memory Lane ;) from the
first time 'the bond' came up in this context.  This was posted in March
1996 in the middle of a very long thread about 'how come Clark didn't
recognize that Lois wasn't herself on the wedding night if they've got this
special connection?':

Debby wrote (and she wasn't alone in her opinion):

>>I think some subconcious warning system should have cooled down his
hot-to-trot response and brought him the news.<<

And Zoom replied:

>>Do sexually aroused men have a functional subconscious? <g> It must be
that psychic hotline sonar bond theory again. Clark's aroused subconscious,
"Oh, Lois, I can't wait to get you out of that ..." blip
...blip...Clone...blip..."I can't wait to kiss every inch of your body, and
..." blip ...blip ... CLONE  ...blip... CLONE..."I can hardly breathe just
thinking about when I'm deep ..." ...CLONE!!! CLONE!!! CLONE!!!  Rrring ...
click ... "Hello, you've just reached Clark Kent's subconscious, all lines
are overloaded right now. Please try calling back after peak hours." <g>

Considering how singleminded Clark was about getting things going that
night, and his determination to 'get back on track' the next day, it seems
like a plausible explanation to me. ;)

Georgia (who also wonders if Clark ever gave any thought to *his*
unfinished novel "Metropolis Blues" ,which he was working on during that
other infamous non-wedding arc, Barbarians at the Planet/House of Luthor.
Just another one of those ways in which Lois and Clark are alike, I guess.
<g>)

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I wondered if anyone else on the list has the 1995 Mad Magazine parady
on L&C - Lotus and Cluck:  The New Adventures of Stuperman.

I love it - it is so funny.  Of course Krapton is Krypton  LOL

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At 03:59 PM 1/13/99 MST, DEBRA GRAY wrote:
>In DToSC, Jonathan Frakes
>tells Sman & Lois that they'll talk about their feeding schedule later.
>Always made me wonder (since there were no little tiny toilets in those
>cages) about hygiene... Also, it'd be
>awfully hard to keep Superman confined *all* the time.

>Yeah they WERE pretty stupid, even if he WAS First Officer on the
Enterprise.
>G. Maybe they figured that Superman didn't have to worry about bodily
>functions. And Lois? Well, maybe they thought they could just escort her.

Except that the only thing that kept Superman in his cage was the threat of
Lois being blown up if he came in contact with either his or her forcefield.
The instant they escorted her out of that cage, Superman would have been
free.

Yeah, *really* dumb villains :) but I liked the whole L&C interaction in
that episode so much that I didn't care.

Sheila
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how did MaggieLogic come to be??
Perhaps it was back in Junior High, when they changed
my schedule to stick me in a Gifted Class I didn't want
to be in.  I got an A in it and then they realized
I didn't score high enough to *take* the class
and transferred me out of it.

:o)
M.

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At 07:16 AM 1/13/1999 -0500, you wrote:
><***If you have time (and I know how that is) read my stories. They're on
>my
>site as well as available from me via email. I think it makes more sense
>and (tooting my own horn) Clark comes out looking like a hero instead of
>zero.***>
>
>     They were great!  I loved the Dawning series.  Is Dawning 23 out yet?

Thank you :) No, not yet (I've got about 15 pages of it), eventually... in
the meantime I'm working on another one.

Anyone got tips for breaking writer's block (other than strangling a needy
old cat who won't shut up [though he is sleeping at the moment...])

Debby :)
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<< Anyone have an interesting story
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Yeppers ;-)  Mine's an anagram- AlienDove = I Love Dean   <vbg>

-Jill aka AlienDove-
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Well, we are supposed to throw all logic out the winder (DTOSC) when we
watch L&C.  Same as when we watch the Roadrunner (those of us watch the
Roadrunner) you are just supposed to watch the show and not tear it
apart  LOL

Yeah, we could have written parts of the show better than the writers
did - that is why we have fanfiction  LOL

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<< Anyone have an interesting story behind your nick? >>

Ok, now this one is sort of interesting, and silly, and some what
annoying.  When I got to college one of the games we played in my halll
to get to know each other was some game where you had to say what your
friends parents thought of you, if you knew that is.  Well, when it was
my turn, I only knew what one of my friends mothers thought, and she
thought I was a slut, well I knew it sounded bad, but it was nothing
compared to the guy whose girlfriend's mom thought he was an male
escort.  Well, later that week, Prity, who lives in my hall and is like
best friends with my roommate found out I like superman.  So, eventually
everyone knew, and then my roommate of all people was spreading my slut
story around, and when Prity heard it she thought of a new nickname for
me.  SuperSlut.  Isn't that great?

Julie

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Hey Kids!!  I have just been surfing the net for some pictures and  I
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address!!!!!

Thanks a bunch!!!

MAD

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In a message dated 99-01-14 00:14:05 EST, you write:

<< Hey Kids!!  I have just been surfing the net for some pictures and  I
 was wondering if anyone had seen any recently updated Emerson Rose
 pictures?!?!?!?!? And if you have could you hook me up with the
 address!!!!!

 Thanks a bunch!!!

 MAD  >>

Hiya MAD =)

The best place for ALL things Teri related can be found at Les's sites......

The URL is:     http://teri.net/fanclub/

Hope that helps!

April
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In a message dated 1/13/99 9:38:13 PM Central Standard Time,
smodolo@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<< Well, we are supposed to throw all logic out the winder (DTOSC) when we
 watch L&C.  Same as when we watch the Roadrunner (those of us watch the
 Roadrunner) you are just supposed to watch the show and not tear it
 apart  LOL >>

I agree, It does surprise me when people get a little too hung up on details
that, even if explained, would add nothing to the story.  Besides, Don't Tug
on Superman's Cape is easily one of my favorite episodes of the series (not
to
mention it introduced Dr. Klein! ;) Great Lois and Clark scenes throughout
the
episode. Dean and Teri are wonderful in the parody segments; James Bond
(including having it in wide screen format ;), I Love Lucy and Dragnet.
Touching scene in the "cages" between Lois and Clark, the scene at the Kent
farm ... sigh, I could go on and on.  All of *that* is plot as well (B plot,
aka "character plot")  I'm afraid people who would like every "T" crossed
and
every "I" dotted would find that if a show ever really did explain every
single nitpick, there wouldn't be airtime left for anything else.  So I'm
glad
the L&C writers made the right choice in keeping in as much character
interaction as possible, even if that did mean we wouldn't find out when
Lois
and Superman would be permitted to use the toilet <g>

>>>Yeah, we could have written parts of the show better than the writers
did - that is why we have fanfiction  LOL<<<

I dunno. I don't think the show would have touched us nearly as much as it
did
if the writers were the "hacks" some make them out to be.  There's many
truly
wonderful episodes, scenes and moments throughout the series created by the
writers, and many of  the writers came from other quality written shows; The
X-Files, Quantum Leap, Brisco County Jr., Scarecrow and Mrs. King, etc. And
like the show, there's good and bad fanfic too, so it pretty much evens out
;)

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>In a message dated 1/13/99 9:38:13 PM Central Standard Time,
>smodolo@HOTMAIL.COM writes:
>
><< Well, we are supposed to throw all logic out the winder (DTOSC) when we
> watch L&C.  Same as when we watch the Roadrunner (those of us watch the
> Roadrunner) you are just supposed to watch the show and not tear it
> apart  LOL >>
>
>I agree, It does surprise me when people get a little too hung up on
details
>that, even if explained, would add nothing to the story.  Besides, Don't
Tug
>on Superman's Cape is easily one of my favorite episodes of the series (not
to
>mention it introduced Dr. Klein! ;) Great Lois and Clark scenes throughout
the
>episode. Dean and Teri are wonderful in the parody segments; James Bond
>(including having it in wide screen format ;), I Love Lucy and Dragnet.
>Touching scene in the "cages" between Lois and Clark, the scene at the Kent
>farm ... sigh, I could go on and on.  All of *that* is plot as well (B
plot,
>aka "character plot")  I'm afraid people who would like every "T" crossed
and
>every "I" dotted would find that if a show ever really did explain every
>single nitpick, there wouldn't be airtime left for anything else.  So I'm
glad
>the L&C writers made the right choice in keeping in as much character
>interaction as possible, even if that did mean we wouldn't find out when
Lois
>and Superman would be permitted to use the toilet <g>

Although I agree with you in the main here, Zoom, where I tend to disagree,
slightly, is in the notion that it necessarily *always* the case that the
tradeoff here *had* to be WAFFs -v- Plot Explanation. Admittedly, there are
episodes where this would indeed be the case and in these circumstances
would any of us seriously suggest that there is a single FoLC out there who
wouldn't sacrifice the latter for the former every time? (Well, the female
ones at least! <g>) Personally, what I've tended to call CR (Character
Relationship) for 20 years now has always been the main attraction for any
show which holds my attention. I wouldn't lose a moment of heart for
anything else. And I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

Equally, however, episodes abound where moments of screentime other than the
WAFFs and CR could have been lost to accomodate both POV. A good, quality
scriptwriter can provide the viewer with reams of plot information in just
one succinct phrase or simple line of dialogue (and you're right, I don't
think our writers were hacks and I do think that they were all easily
capable of such feats of writing skills - much more often in fact than they
tended to give us! <g>) - it doesn't necessarily have to take up huge tracks
of screentime. These are, in fact, the most irksome nitpicks - the plot
anomolies that could have been sorted with just one throwaway line in the
script.

Some obvious candidates to lose in screentime, other than WAFFs, are action
sequences or SFX shots. Many of these could have been pared without losing
their essence or harming the logic or intellligence of the episode as told.
I'm not suggesting that this *should* have been done - action and SFX are,
of course, equally necessary - a balance must be mantained - just advancing
the theory that they *could* have provided the sacrificial lamb just as
easily as any WAFFy moment. And I'm sure we could all think of at least half
a dozen examples off the top of our head of likely candidates in this
catagory.

A minute here, a scene there, a few moments of Superman fielding bullets off
his chest that no one would have missed and the time could more than have
been found in many instances to enable the writers to plug a gaping plot
hole that Lois could have driven her Jeep Cherokee through (even the way
Lois drives) and still not lose a single instant of heart and emotion.

Yes, given the choice, I'd chose WAFFs over PE any day - no contest. But, I
believe that there were times when *both* could have found a place in many
an episode in perfect harmony.
>
>>>>Yeah, we could have written parts of the show better than the writers
>did - that is why we have fanfiction  LOL<<<
>
>I dunno. I don't think the show would have touched us nearly as much as it
did
>if the writers were the "hacks" some make them out to be.  There's many
truly
>wonderful episodes, scenes and moments throughout the series created by the
>writers, and many of  the writers came from other quality written shows;
The
>X-Files, Quantum Leap, Brisco County Jr., Scarecrow and Mrs. King, etc. And
>like the show, there's good and bad fanfic too, so it pretty much evens out
;)
>
On this one, I can agree with you 100%, Zoom. I would be seriously amazed
that anyone could level the charge of hacks at our writers, to be honest!
Week in, week out, they wrote scripts under pressures that would have had
most of *us* running screaming for the hills.

David Gerrold (Star Trek) once compared screenwriting to being a call girl -
desperately trying to please everyone and for a pitiful amount of cash. I'm
sure he wasn't the only one to have that thought in mind when trying to get
out a script in the small hours of the morning while accommodating the
(often conflicting) demands of networks, sponsors, advertisers, fans,
actors, producers et al. "Walk a mile in my shoes...." has always been a
favorite maxim of mine and I can't help feeling that most of us would have
fallen by the wayside long before any of our writers did, faced with the
same frantic writing pace and demands. To be honest, I am constantly amazed
that *any* TV show actually makes it to the screen, let alone continues for
week after week, given the amazing amount of people it has to go through to
get there!

Despite the odd lapse here and there, in the main our writers did us proud.
Could any of us have done better under the same restrictions and in the same
timeframe? Walk a mile, baby, walk a mile.....

LabRat :)
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On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:59:45 MST DEBRA GRAY <dlgray@USA.NET> wrote:

> Regina wrote:
>> OK, speaking of things that don't make sense... In DToSC, Jonathan
Frakes tells Sman & Lois that they'll talk about their feeding schedule
later. Always made me wonder (since there were no little tiny toilets
in those cages) about hygiene... or it would've gotten awfully messy in
those nice, neat cages... with Superman's cape spread out so
beautifully. Also, it'd be awfully hard to keep Superman confined *all*
the time. They weren't very smart villains, were they? (LOL) <<

> Yeah, they WERE pretty stupid, even if he WAS First Officer on the
Enterprise. <

Um, let's not confuse shows here. Riker, whatever one might think of
him, wouldn't have made that sort of mistake. He'd be more likely to
make a pass at Lois! <g>

> Maybe they figured that Superman didn't have to worry about bodily
functions. <

Well, he doesn't, does he? He doesn't have to eat, so eventually,
there'd be nothing left to excrete. All they need do is pipe in a
certain amount of sunlight to keep him alive.

> And Lois? Well, maybe they thought they could just escort her. <

If they thought that would work, they were dumber than they realised.
Think about it: the instant that Lois is off that platform with the
bomb on it, Superman is GONE! With Lois, because all he needs is enough
time to get to her, to shield her from the blast.

Actually, that whole trap made no sense at all. Clark is easily fast
enough to set off the bomb and still get Lois away, even though she's
standing on top of it. Explosive detonation speeds are fast -- that's
why they're _explosives_ -- but Superman is faster.

But, even allowing for that point, Frankie and Johnny-- er, Amber and
whatisname-- you know, the villains! <g> -- have a tiger by the tail.
The only thing keeping Superman their prisoner is the danger to Lois,
so if she gets away, that's all, FoLCs! And Lois is smart enough to
realise this, so she will be on the lookout for any chance to get out.
And there _will_ be chances: they have to feed her, they have to supply
some form of sanitary facility -- and clean it regularly, or their
precious museum will start to smell terrible.

To do any of this, they have to take down the force fields surrounding
Lois -- and she'll make a break for it. Actually, knowing Lois, she'll
jump them and try to break their heads! And, once again, as soon as
she's off that platform, Clark is outta there! So, all in all, the
Lakes (knew I'd remember their names eventually!) are in serious
kimchee. But do we care...?

Phil
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In a message dated 1/14/99 2:57:34 AM Central Standard Time,
labrat@DIRCON.CO.UK writes:

<< Although I agree with you in the main here, Zoom, where I tend to
disagree,
 slightly, is in the notion that it necessarily *always* the case that the
 tradeoff here *had* to be WAFFs -v- Plot Explanation. >>

Ah, I said *nothing* about "waff" vs "plot exposition/execution" at all!  I
enjoy waffs (warm and fuzzy feelings), but I also enjoy a good argument
between Lois and Clark, particularly if written humorously or showing the
irony of Superman, the most powerful being on Earth, having "girlfriend
problems"  I love a well written "wham" (wistful heart-wrenching agonizing
moments ;) as well.  Like the scene of Martha and Lois' clone, when "Clois"
discovers she has no soul and will die unloved. Truly well done on all
accounts.  So *no* it is not a matter of waff vs plot for me at all.

As I've stated before, what gripes me out are *nitpicks*. However, I don't
even begrudge nitpickers, if that is truly fun for them.  But, I do get my
back up if some trivial nitpick, like say, "Why did STAR labs give Jimmy a
prototype Air Force watch?" is attributed to "bad writing".  That's
ridiculous. How or why Jimmy got that watch is no more important to the plot
of Green Green Glow of Home than what color shoes Lois was wearing.  Yes,
the
watch was a plot device, and one we never saw again, but would the plot have
really improved enormously if we found out the "how" and "why" of Jimmy
getting that watch?   Not for me, pal ;)

>>>it doesn't necessarily have to take up huge tracks
of screentime. These are, in fact, the most irksome nitpicks - the plot
anomolies that could have been sorted with just one throwaway line in the
script.<<<

Which ones?  It's hard to say if "this or that" was a plot hole if none are
given as examples. There are annoying "dropped ball" scenes.  We see a
countdown on a time lock in The Source, yet when we get back from
commercial,
they're out of the jam, and we have no idea why.  Sometimes too, something
*is* in the episode, but the person overlooked it (kind of like that
Hogmanay
gift thing ;)  The point is, and this gets down to personal taste, I can't
really remember a plot hole that bothered me enough to complain about it.
Every episode could be shot full of holes by an ace nitpicker. There isn't
one
episode that covers all bases so well that something wrong couldn't be
found.

>>>Some obvious candidates to lose in screentime, other than WAFFs, are
action
sequences or SFX shots. Many of these could have been pared without losing
their essence or harming the logic or intellligence of the episode as
told.<<<

And that's definitely done in fanfic, but on a network television show that
realizes that children are *also* a demographic who watch the show and look
forward to the 'Superman action', then the show did feel an obligation to
put
some of that in the scripts. McNamara mentioned that Lois and Clark was one
of
the toughest shows to write for because of the wide-ranging audience it
attracted.  In the national Nielsen ratings, Lois and Clark rarely made it
into the top 20. There may be as few as three or four episodes out of 88
that
managed to do that.  However, in terms of demographics, Lois and Clark was a
top 15 show with adults 18-49, teens 13-17 and children 2-12 during its 3rd
season. I know some people roll their eyes when I bring up the reality of
network television, but while I can suspend my disbelieve over a man who can
fly, I can't shrug and say "It would have been great if Superman didn't have
to hog so much air time" <g>  Besides, I *liked* the Superman sequences! ;)

>>>enable the writers to plug a gaping plot
hole that Lois could have driven her Jeep Cherokee through (even the way
Lois drives) and still not lose a single instant of heart and emotion.<<<

Again, which gaping hole, or holes? It's hard to agree or disagree without
knowing.

>>>Yes, given the choice, I'd chose WAFFs over PE any day - no contest. But,
I
believe that there were times when *both* could have found a place in many
an episode in perfect harmony.<<<

I said *nothing* about "waffs"!!! <g>

>>>Despite the odd lapse here and there, in the main our writers did us
proud.
Could any of us have done better under the same restrictions and in the same
timeframe? Walk a mile, baby, walk a mile.....<<<

I like ending a post on an agreement ;)

Zoomway@aol.com (walk a mile in another man's shoes...that way you'll be a
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>> Um, let's not confuse shows here. Riker, whatever one might think of
> him, wouldn't have made that sort of mistake. He'd be more likely to
> make a pass at Lois! <g><<

hehe!

>> Well, he doesn't, does he? He doesn't have to eat, so eventually,
> there'd be nothing left to excrete. All they need do is pipe in a
> certain amount of sunlight to keep him alive.<<

BUT, we do see him eat so it has to go somewhere!

I can just see Lois:
"Umm, Clark I sure hope you've thought of a plan to get out of here!"
"Why Lois?"
"Cause I REALLY need to use the ladies room!!"
"Oh, boy."

~Jocelyn (wondering how long Lois and Clark were stuck in there!)
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I'm willing to cut the writers a lot of slack--they are working under
the constraints of time, budget and committee intervention. Based on
scripts I've seen, often the "missing" bits have been written but not
filmed or filmed but snipped for time. Fanfic writers really have the
luxury (generally) of not worrying about a deadline that could be as
short as a day or two (as with Tim Minear's AKA rewrite) but essentially
taking as long as they want to "get it right".  No budget worries
either--special effects, guest star salaries, shooting schedules or
set availability are all unimportant or at least irrelevant in fanfic.
Don't get me wrong--I *love* fanfic, but no matter how script-like
they may be they don't have the limits and contraints of the pros (and
I *do* think there is some *very* professionally written fanfic....).

Bottom line is that no matter how "real world" the setting is--the
show is fantasy and you can get away with a lot that would otherwise
be unexplainable or just plain wrong/impossible.... Isn't that part
of the reason we love it??

Donna in Schenectady,
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***<Anyone got tips for breaking writer's block (other than strangling a
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Like I said, it's what I was told.  It may have just been a ploy to get me
to "apply myself", or "live up to my potential", or any of a number of
things parents tell their children.  BTW, I did get the same lecture that
Lois got for a 98, except mine was in tenth grade, and it was Algebra 2.
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In a message dated 99-01-14 09:34:30 EST, dreaminglight@YAHOO.COM writes:

<< >> Well, he doesn't, does he? He doesn't have to eat, so eventually,
 > there'd be nothing left to excrete. All they need do is pipe in a
 > certain amount of sunlight to keep him alive.<<

 BUT, we do see him eat so it has to go somewhere! >>

Ok, the former biology teacher is taking over here <Laurie is trying
desperately to fight this!!!>.

Waste from food (the undigested parts) ends up as feces (sorry if I'm
talking
dirty, but these are the facts of life). Our liquid wastes, however, (see I
can be more polite, too) are from ordinary cellular functions, NOT directly
>from food. Yes, if you drink more, you will go more because a large part of
it
water, but I'm talking about the rest. So, it is possible, if Superman's
cellular biology is vastly different from ours and doesn't create cellular
waste when "feeding" on sunlight that if he didn't eat or drink, he might
not
have to go---at least not for a long time. On the other hand, he would
require
sunlight, wouldn't he?

--L (I think)
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I volunteered to pass this on to the list. I haven't read it yet, but with
this ice keeping many things closed today, I may yet get to it sooner rather
than later...
--Laurie
*****

"Missing" by Leanne Shawler. Rated at least PG-13.

People in Metropolis start to go missing ...

This story is my very last "Lois & Clark" fanfic, and I feel sure that most
of you will be saying "Thank God" by the time you finish reading it. (This
is the most depressing fic I was talking about on irc all those months ago,
if you remember.)

This was first inspired by a dream I had while co-ordinating S5. I wrote it
out and put it away. (KathyB said: "Don't you dare write it!" when I told
her about it.) It was so compelling, however, that I came back to it,
wondering how this final scene came to be, and helped in part by end of S5
discussion, I wrote the following.

I've held off until 1999 to publish it (actually to finish revising and
editing
it) because of how S6 was planned. So if you haven't gone and read the
first few episodes of S6, please do before reading this!

For the first time, I feel the need to say that while I'm interested in
feedback, I'm not interested in flames.

You won't find "Missing" here on the fanfic list or at the fanfic archives,
but you *will* find it on my site:

http://www.znet.com/~volterra/fanfic/missing.html

My thanks to Laurie for posting this to the list for me.

Leanne
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From:         Carolyn Schnall <cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What the 'S' stands for
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Yes, Debby,

Dean's favorite food after matzoh ball soup:)

and Lois knows what pasta does to Clark!

Carolyn
cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu

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>At 03:27 PM 1/11/1999 -0600, you wrote:
>>At 12:40 PM -0800 1/11/99, julie slisz wrote:
>>> Ok, what does the S stand for?  I know Lois made
>>>it Super, but it came with him from Krypton, and he was Kalel of the
>>>house of El, none of which even contain the letter s.
>>
>>
>>The 'S' is the Krypton symbol for "El".  The fact that it looks like an
>>English letter S is just a coincidence.
>>Kathy
>
>No, it stands for Dean's favorite food, spaghetti
>
>Debby
>Debby@swcp.com
>...or not
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Joceyn was wondering how long Lois and Clark were stuck in the cages.
Presumably Lois and Clark were in there for a few hours but not too long,
because the Lakes had on the same clothes when they came in to check on the
alarm that they had on when the trapped Superman in the cage.

I do think we have to realize that with any drama (TV, stage or screen) that
there has to be the "suspension of disbelief."  When there are glaring
bloopers it can be amusing, but we need to remember it is drama and some
things don't make sense.

Just a small question-- is Dean Cain left-handed?  There are a number of
scenes in various episodes where he is using his left hand (eating,
catching,
throwing, etc.) and will change hands, almost as if he has realized he's
using
the wrong hand.

Ann
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I just wanted to say that when I said that about the missing potty in DToSC,
that I don't really consider that a plot failure <g>...*I* certainly don't
want to see our heroes & heroines taking time to go the the bathroom during
the show. I *loved* this ep and thought it one of the most romantic of
all...the discussion while they were in the "pottyless" cages were
heart-rending. It wasn't criticism, just silliness.

Regina Ash
rashtchr@bigplanet.com

Science, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from
magic.            -Arthur C. Clarke
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Regina wrote:

>I just wanted to say that when I said that about the missing potty in
DToSC,
>that I don't really consider that a plot failure <g>...*I* certainly
don't
>want to see our heroes & heroines taking time to go the the bathroom
during
>the show. I *loved* this ep and thought it one of the most romantic
of
>all...the discussion while they were in the "pottyless" cages were
>heart-rending. It wasn't criticism, just silliness.

I loved the episode, too, but please don't apologize for starting the
discussion!  It's generated some very amusing and interesting posts.
I don't think I've seen this kind of debate and commentary on one
small segment of an episode since the show went off the air  :)

Pat

peabody@mcs.com
pattijean@aol.com
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Labrat wrote:

<< Malcolm was clearly supposed to be a
 Joseph. Hours of muttering later as I continually typed in the wrong name
 for the wrong guy I finally had to accept the inevitable - Malcom just
 didn't *want* to be called Joseph.  >>

Okay, I'm still sifting through scads of mail here, so this may have been
addressed already:

Do certain names "say" evil to you, or good to you as you write? Are there
certain characteristics that we have unconsciously assigned to different
names? I mean, what do you think of when you hear "Gabriel"? Angelic? Or
"Jake"? Is he a rakish (and not because it rhymes!) man? Is Benny (not
Benjamin) destined to be a mobster? Is "Jaime" gonna be a tomboy? Or for
that
matter, what about Sam(antha), Jo(sephine), and Billy (Wilhelmina!)?

Hmmm....
Marie,
ChoirGirl2@aol.com
(who sings Second Soprano at her Church...)
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Hey, if you have a fest in TO, would you consider letting some Western
Canadian FoLCs show up there?

Debra G (in Vancouver BC)

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At 11:17 AM 1/14/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>***<Anyone got tips for breaking writer's block (other than strangling a
>needy
>old cat who won't shut up [though he is sleeping at the moment...])>***
>
>     I've always said that there is very little in the world that
>chocolate, spicy chinese food, and vigorous exercise can't help!  :)

Well, I can endulge in the first two while writing :) The spicy food (in
abundance here in New Mexico) is okay if it's not *too* hot. I need the
exercise, too. With our calm, warm weather, I can get out of the house to
do it :)

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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LabRat wrote:
>
> >Genevieve wrote:
> >
> >> However, turning this interesting thread to fanfic writing, I was
> >> wondering -- how do you come up with the names of your original
> >> characters in your stories?  A recent discussion on a Highlander
> >> discussion list I'm on mentioned the joy of naming a villain after an
> >> ex-boyfriend; joy augmented, I'm sure, by the fact that in Highlander,
> >> villains generally get their heads cut off.
> >
> >
> Years ago I read an instructional book that maintained you should always
> give your characters outlandish names - the more outrageous the
> better -because the reader would remember them more easily, and if you
take
> a look at some of the classics - even the more contemporary ones - you
will
> find that more than a few authors seem to have read the same text at some
> point in their lives!
>
> I find this a fairly reasonable baseline to follow in the main, although I
> don't always use it. I tend to go looking among books, CD covers,
magazines
> for unusual names - the Detective in my latest nfic is called Gnass; I
found
> that in my Atlas of the USA. He was the Editor apparently. <g>. I mix and
> match though and never use a complete name. If our Editor is Philip Gnass
> then Detective Gnass is probably Bob.
>
> I do that mostly because my *main* way to find character names 99.9% of
the
> time is to type them in blind as I compose the scene, almost on autopilot,
> without consciously thinking it up at all - and I have a deep-rooted
inbuilt
> suspicion of anything that comes to mind *that* easily! I once named a
> character that way and years later discovered the name in an old rerun of
> Woody Allan's movie SLEEPERS. It's mentioned for precisely 2.3 seconds as
an
> aside! When I wrote that particular story I hadn't seen that movie in over
> ten years. Strange what the memory holds on to. <g>
>
> And then, of course, there are names so outlandish you figure they can't
> possibly have roots anywhere else but your own tormented psyche. Lord
alone
> knows where Mandrake Helston, Excelsior insurance manager came from in my
> CAPED FEAR! But I reckon the author of that long ago instructional text
> would have been proud.......
>
> What fascinates me more, I have to say, is how a character takes hold of
> his/her name once its bestowed upon them and then refuses to let go of it.
I
> had two characters in CAPED FEAR - Joseph Andrews and Malcolm Gerrard. For
> some reason, now lost in the mists of exercises in frustration (that's
> fanfic writing to you), I decided at one point that these names needed
> swapping in their introductory scene. Malcolm was clearly supposed to be a
> Joseph. Hours of muttering later as I continually typed in the wrong name
> for the wrong guy I finally had to accept the inevitable - Malcom just
> didn't *want* to be called Joseph. To be honest, I had to agree with him.
> It's fascinating how often a character comes to immediate life, his
> personality, his hobbies, his prejudices and dislikes, his loves and
> ambitions, all there on the page in an instant, as soon as you name him.
And
> how hard it is to alter that name once he's been 'christened'. I guess in
> many ways to authors their characters are as real as the people they meet
in
> the street and just as hard to change once you get to know them.
>
> LabRat :)
Just thought this was interesting.  At one science fiction convetion in
Houston a SF author eplained that he named characters in his books after
real people.  He makes them pay for the privilege.  The more they pay
the more villanous the character.  He made an exception for a new born
baby girl who's parents sent him money and asked her's to be the name of
a nice character because she was still totally innocent.  He gave an
admiral (on the good side) her name.