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>Misha wrote:
>>> Okay- I think this is the point at which I throw myself on my
knees,
>thanking the author of Episode 2 for rescuing me from the hellish
>cliffhanger at the end of Episode 1. <<

Yes, it was hellish--and I loved every minute of it<bg>!

Thank you so much, Pam, Barb, Chris, and everyone else involved with
S6.  I was especially impressed with the interesting twist that you
put on Lex's plan to "adopt" Lois & Clark's daughter.  Who would ever
have thought that he'd try to do it legally?  I'd expected to read a
Lex-kidnaps-the-baby-and-Superman-rescues-her type of story, so
episode 1's cliffhanger was a very clever surprise.

It's great to get an episode of L&C on Sunday evening once again, and
even better to get such interesting, well-written episodes  :)

I'm really looking forward to the rest of your season!   I just know
that you've got more surprises in store for us <bg>

Pat

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At 8:45 PM -0500 12/7/98, Annette Ciotola wrote:
>Now this would be an interesting thread <g> How many people out there have
met
>(besides the LAFFs and the couples who have been brought together (still
want
>to hear Kat and Rich's story though <g>)

LOL!!!  Well, if Kat or Rich doesn't pony up, I do know most of the story
... <eg>.

>I'd love to hear more stories on how Lois & Clark has brought about so many
>friendships and not just on-line, but off-line!!

Oh, gosh, let's see who I've met ...

Since I just came back from spending the weekend with Stacey (stacers or
DrStace on IRC), I'll start with her.  We both went to the same university
(U of Michigan), though not at the same time. One of us piped up with "Go
Blue" on channel one night about 2.5-3 years ago, and we've been great
buddies ever since.  We've gotten together ... oh, gosh, I'd estimate maybe
10 times over the last 2.5 years.  Now that we live only 3 hours apart,
we're able to get together more often.

Another good friendship came about as the result of fanfic, but has become
a lot more.  Kathy emailed me about my fanfic Camping with Clark coming up
on 3 years ago, and we started chatting from there.  There have been
periods where we've exchanged emails every day for weeks! We live on
opposite sides of the country (north-south, at least) but she's come up to
spend a weekend with me twice so far, with plans to visit again this
spring.  The first visit was quite a gamble -- we'd exchanged tons of email
and I think talked on the phone once or twice, but her coming to see me
still alarmed her friends and family. ("You are going where to do what??"
;))  The funniest was the person at work who told her they had heard all
about these cyber-affairs and wanted to know if she was leaving her husband
for me. <vbeg>

Erin and I haven't met in person yet, but we talk on the phone pretty
often.  In fact, I was telling her the other day that I talk to her more
than anyone except my mom. <bg>  Only right since Erin and I share a brain;
we have to make sure to touch base with the other half fairly often. ;)  We
talk about fanfic and L&C occasionally, sure, but most of the time (as
those on IRC can attest when we disappear into /msgland for hours at a time
<bg>) we talk about other stuff -- kids (ours are similar ages), houses,
gardening, decorating ... we have so many similar interests, it's scary!

I've met several of the other "Great Lakes" area FoLCs ... WaffyBarb,
Keina, Bizarra, Kat and Rich (I met each of them separately, then Stacey
and I decided they'd be perfect together and started matchmaking <eg>) ...
Pat (of the "Ralph's Pagoda" shirt fame <g>) and her husband, Mike ...
Becky ... and a few others whose names escape me right now at the local
fest Rich hosted.

So, you can definitely count me in the "has made many good friends due to
FoLCdom" category!

Kathy (who has never made it to LAFF or NEFF, but has still managed to meet
up with many local FoLCs!)

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At 10:22 PM +1100 12/5/98, trish wrote:
>Still patiently waiting for the co-authored fanfic by Demi and KathyB :)

LOL, us too, Trish ... us too. <g>  Neither of us has had much time to
write lately, but we can count on our friends to keep the pressure on. <g>

Kathy

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In a message dated 12/7/98 8:53:32 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
jernigan@COMPUSERVE.COM writes:

<<
 Mwa-ha-ha... I suppose, as the author of said hellish cliffhanger, this is
 the point at which I should beg everyone's forgiveness... but I just had
 way too much fun <g>  (I was in close consultation with the author of Ep
 #2, so *I* knew how it was gonna come out <g>)
  >>
I knew it would come out o.k. but I couldn't even bring myself to read the
first episode until the second came out.  The first sat on the TV next to my
bed for two weeks and every once in a while I thought about reading it but
no!!!

 I finally sneaked a peek at the last episode of the Child and when I saw
THE
END - I said alright.

And after waiting all year dreading Lex's cliffhanger statement about
getting
Lois and Clark's child.

I will send in my review shortly but for now: my overall assessment:
Together the first two episodes make a great conclusion to the season5
cliffhanger.

Now let's get Lex.  I know John Shea made a great Lex but Lex is evil
whatever
incarnation he is in. Currently in the comics he seems to be winning against
Clark/Superman and I almost feel like throw the darn things out because of
it.

Charlotte
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>> Pam? Chris? who's gonna spill the beans?? <g> <<

Alright, since you asked... I lured Chris to an abandoned building <g>

See, we'd been e-mailing back and forth a few times, and discovered we we=
re
in the same city.  We wanted to meet, but being naturally cautious types,=

we thought it'd be safest if we arranged to get together at a neutral
location for lunch -- that way we both had our cars for a quick getaway,
nobody knew where anybody lived, etc -- you know, just in case we hated
each other or decided that the other one was just too creepy for words <g=
> =

(The phrase "ax-murderer" may even have come up <g>)

Okay, lunch seemed like a good bet.  Only one problem.  Neither of us was=

in the habit of going out to lunch, and we didn't work very close to one
another, so we were trying to pick a restaurant in an area that neither o=
f
us knew very well.  I finally came up with a place I'd gone about a year
ago -- the Olive Garden on Rt 70.  Chris figured she knew how to get ther=
e,
so we picked a time & spoke briefly on the phone that morning to confirm.=

Well, I got there first that afternoon, and man was I embarrassed to
discover that the place had closed!  There wasn't even still a sign up! =

Ack!  I was sure Chris would never find me, she'd drive up and down for a=
n
hour, not get any lunch, and never speak to me again.  I felt *awful* but=
 I
thought, just in case (or as penance <g>) that I'd better hang out in the=

parking lot for a while.

It wasn't very much later that another car pulled into the parking lot,
and pulled up next to me -- she rolled down her window, I rolled down min=
e,
she spoke first (I was too chagrined to speak! <g>) "Are you Pam?"  Yes, =
I
nodded guiltily, I was.  I apologized for not knowing the restaurant had
closed, but luckily for me, she took it well in stride, and just suggeste=
d
we move to another place down the road.  That little mishap broke the ice=

pretty well, actually, and before long we were laughing about it and
getting along great.  (Although to this day she teases me about it <g>)

(I found out that when she hadn't seen a sign for the place, she pulled
into a gas station and asked, which is how she found out where it *used* =
to
be ... if she had been a guy, as I'd first assumed from her name, she wou=
ld
never have found me <g>)

Anyway, that was over three years ago now ... and with the exception of
my husband, Chris is my best friend in the world.  I'm *very* grateful to=

have met her, along with all the other terrific FOLCs I've met along the
way.

>> Whenever people tell me L&C was just a TV show, I can tell them
about the great friends I've made that I would never have known if not
for that TV show, and about all the fun I've had both reading and
writing about these characters.  I wouldn't have missed all this for
anything. :-) <<

Couldn't have said it better, myself, Chris.  And I have to add ...
people will tell you that the Internet is dehumanizing, reducing all
your interactions to a screen and keyboard -- nonsense!  I love having
online friends, and thanks to the Internet, I have more of a real social
life now than ever before <g>  =

PJ

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Charlotte:

Isn't it weird and strange how familiar some of the headlines seemed!

So glad you liked them.:)

Thanks,
Carolyn
cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu

>In a message dated 12/1/98 7:00:28 PM !!!First Boot!!!,
>cschnall@MAIL.MED.CORNELL.EDU writes:
>
><< Subj:              Headlines
>
> >
> >These aren't all great but the few that are make this worth it.
> >
> >STUPID HEADLINES
> >> Here are a few choice headlines that may serve to reaffirm your
perception
> >> that there are still a few lightbulbs in the house of humanity that
remain
> >> unlit. >>
>
>I swear I read at least half of the headlines in the Allentown Morning
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>
>LOL Charlotte
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Howdy Round Robinites <g>

A German fan sent this note to me and asked that I share it, and since I
don't
know who all wrote on the story, but I know darn well most of you are on
this
list, here ya go <g>

Subj:    A whole new world
Date:   12/8/98 1:29:42 PM Central Standard Time
From:   IrisZ@gmx.net (Iris Zanger)
To:     zoomway@AOL.COM

Hi, here Iris from Germany,

I've read your fanfic and it's a great great story.
I wish I could travel around the world just as Lois and Clark
(no airports, no plane who is late...) <g>
I laughed and dreamt a lot during the reading.

Please bring my greetings to the other writers.  Thanks.

Iris
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In a message dated 12/8/98 10:01:47 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jernigan@COMPUSERVE.COM writes:

>
>  >> Whenever people tell me L&C was just a TV show, I can tell them
>  about the great friends I've made that I would never have known if not
>  for that TV show, and about all the fun I've had both reading and
>  writing about these characters.  I wouldn't have missed all this for
>  anything. :-) <<
>
>  Couldn't have said it better, myself, Chris.  And I have to add ...
>  people will tell you that the Internet is dehumanizing, reducing all
>  your interactions to a screen and keyboard -- nonsense!  I love having
>  online friends, and thanks to the Internet, I have more of a real social
>  life now than ever before <g>

First of all... thank you for this letter... it reassures me that I am not
entirely crazy <bg>.  I, too, have met my very best friend here... although
I
was somewhat more trusting than you.

I am a West Coaster, and Anne is an East Coaster... one day, while ranting
that I would *never* get to see the blooper reel, she offered to send it to
me.  We made all the appropriate arrangements, and after the tape arrived we
continued to stay in touch.

Gradually, our online relationship expanded, and I gained something
wonderful... my best friend!  Okay... that's a weak term... I gained a
sister.
She is the person I talk to when I check my mail before work, and the person
I
rush to the computer to speak to (whether dinner is done or not) before she
goes to work.  She is the one I turn to when my marriage hits rocky ground,
or
my babysitter flakes, or the world just caves in.  She never complains,
never
criticizes... she's always there.

When NEFF was announced, I took a leap of blind faith... I agreed to get on
a
plane and fly to see this person that I had only known through the computer
and several miscellaneous packages on my doorstep.  I flew into Newark, a
place I had never seen... to meet people I had never met and trusted to
drive
me to Boston, more than 5 hours away.  As I said... blind faith.

Anne is all I expected and more... it amazes me that she is so similar in
person to the personality I enjoy online.  I also was able to meet many of
the
other FoLCs at NEFF... all exactly as wonderful as they are in fanfic each
Saturday.  Further, I was able to bring home ample proof that these are
people
(see, I have pictures) and not the little blips on a screen that my husband
insisted they were.

Anne is merely one example... all of the FoLCs are so wonderful... Julie,
who
sent me Mac for Dummies when I was issued a Macintosch laptop at work...
Misha, who continues to give me the reviews that make the archive
interesting
(not to mention the cross-stitch... thanks Misha)... and all the others who
are more than just words on a screen... nicks that I recognize... they are
the
people that I turn to when life gets too crazy to deal with.  They are the
people that talked me through getting certified to teach in California, held
my hand when my babysitter went psycho and the finances unlivable... they
are
friends, in every sense of the world.

I'm sure I've told you nothing you don't know... FoLCs are the best... and
cyber-friends are some of the most real friends you will ever have.  I thank
God for them every day.

-Crys-
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>>How many people out there have met<<

Well, I must say I haven't met too many people that I first talked to
online.  The first time I was ever online was about a month after the
show was canceled, though I did stumble into the fanfic archive and
thought i'd died and gone to heaven!  I really didn't get to know that
many people online though.  I was only online about once a month,
sometimes less often.  But I did get to know a few people.  I only met
one of them, only one of them lived in San Antonio.  Her name is Amy
Nashler, and she has become one of my good friends.  I haven't talked to
her much recently, I moved, her parents went insane and got rid of the
computer (we always thought they were a little insane).  But that's ok,
we still have snail-mail.  :)

I remember the first fanfic I ever read was "Purple Haze" by Susan
Vancott.  I don't think its in the archive and I don't remember how I
got it in the first place.  But Susan may remember me, I'm the girl who
lost the story several times before finally reading the end.  Lets see,
I think I had to have it emailed to me three times.  I don't know for
sure, but I'm very glad she put her email address on it, or I would
never have known what happened at the end. :)  I'm also glad she gave it
to me so many times.  I still have the copy I have now, printed and
stored in Superman Volume 1 of my great collection of notebooks (ok so
theres only 3 but oh well).

Julie

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Awwww ... Thank you Crys ...

My on-line friendships mean the world to me, too. Without Annie, Crys, Julie
and the rest of the gang - everyone else would think I am just plain crazy
...
at least here you all know I am and accept me for that. <g>

But seriously, there is no way I can top what Crys has said. I can only echo
the praise she has given.

Thanks for sharing guys, keep the stories coming!!
Anne :)
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At 12:38 AM 08/12/98 -0600, you wrote:
>At 10:22 PM +1100 12/5/98, trish wrote:
>>Still patiently waiting for the co-authored fanfic by Demi and KathyB :)

>LOL, us too, Trish ... us too. <g>  Neither of us has had much time to
>write lately, but we can count on our friends to keep the pressure on. <g>
>Kathy

Ohh but it gets better <g> Recently, I lost everything on one of my hard
drives.. everything INCLUDING .. a certain opus of a novel I was writing
with Kathy.. <g> Now, the reason I'm still sane and laughing at this point
(we've only been working on this for .. what, 2 years? LOL).. is that I had
another copy of it, I almost forgot I had, saved only a few days before I
had my crash.. and yes, we've been writing some more, it's impossible to
find free time these days but we've both committed to a Y2K deadline <eg>
Ok Ok.. that part I made up, we're really almost done.. promise :)  We just
have to find time to do the last 400 pages .. er.. I mean.. well, I guess
that's enough wise-(hind) from me tonight, we'll get it done.  Absolutely
for 100% positively ;)

~Demi~  (What year is it, again? ;P)

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 Embrace wonder for one moment without
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 if it be real or not."
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At 09:39 AM 05/12/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi all!
>
>Well, on this thread, I have to say that the first fanfic I read, was
>actually Demi's nfic, "And the Answer Isn't".  I still treasure that story
>to this day, and I loved how she wrote the interaction between Lois and
>Clark.  It was fantastic, and truly epitomized all that I love about LnC,
>especially as they grew slowly closer at the end of season 2, and CK's
>ultimate secret was revealed.

Wow, Erin thanks :)  I guess there's nothing more rewarding in the whole
experience of writing than knowing people took something special from your
work.  You made my day!..my week <wink>

First fanfic I ever read?  It was Jiji Baker's "Oh What A Tangled Web We
Weave" ... she got me hooked and then became one of my greatest online
friends, and I'm sorry to say after she got married, I didn't get to speak
much with her anymore.. I miss the gal! She left FoLCdom but not before
being a tremendous writer for us <g>  After Jiji's work, I started right
into Zoomway's and one or two of Leigh Raglan's recommended to me .. Season
1 and 2 work in the beginning, which was when I was reading at the time <g>
...  'on the cusp of a relationship' has always been my favorite fanfic
theme -- I admit that freely.  I don't even try very hard to rationalize it
anymore.. there's just something about reading about 'falling in love' that
always sweeps me away.  Especially when it's done as well as.. well (at the
risk of handing another of my truly dear friends an unsolicited mushy <eg>
... when it's done as well as Zoomway does it... ;)

You're just my personal fanfic hero Squidgy <eg>

Now she'll REALLY hit me so I'm going to make a quick get-a-way! ;)

Oh, and Chris M and KathyB, Sheila H, Julie M .. you guys are also my
personal heros, you have to understand though, Zoomie pays me more annually
<eg>  LOL

What a night! ;)

Take Care All...
~Demi~
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I am trying to get a hold of Joyce, whom I guess is the listmistress.

Piper informed me that she has the 3-parter of The Heir which I ould
love to read.  I guess you have to be over 18 in orer to read them.
Well, I am over 40 so I guess I qualify and I promie also not to
re-distibute them.

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Well, it would take a great thread like this one to drag me out of lurkdom
for
my annual post.  (Got in just under the gun for 1998!)  So here goes...

I can truly appreciate Pam's story about how she and Chris met, since they
are
the first FoLCs I ever met!  A couple of years ago, Pam invited me to a
small
*fest* she and Chris were pulling together.  Everyone was meeting up at the
local Warner Bros store, which had even managed to stay in business. :)   I
had no idea what to expect and almost didn't go because I had to leave that
afternoon on a 4 hour trip.  Beyond any expectation, I was introduced to the
nicest group of friends anyone could hope for!   As Pam expressed in her
post,
I never would have thought a small box on my desk could introduce me to
someone living in my own backyard.

I've been equally astounded by the ease with which I've made friends across
the country and in other countries, as well.  Crystal's post about her
cross-
country friendship with Anne is truly incredible, but something any FoLC
instantly understands and can identify with.

FoLCs are simply wonderful people...a friend in the truest sense of the
word.
I can even remember Chris and I talking about this one time at a FoLC
gathering.  The only way we could explain it was through the characters.
People who are drawn to these characters, to what Superman represents, the
way
Clark lives his life, and L&C's continual fight for what is right, seem to
possess this same innate goodness.

I guess you could say we are all just neighbors in Smallville.  And there's
certainly no greater place in the universe...

Barb

(Returning once again to lurkdom with my glass of buttermilk...)
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> At 8:45 PM -0500 12/7/98, Annette Ciotola wrote:
> >Now this would be an interesting thread <g> How many people out there =
have met
> >(besides the LAFFs and the couples who have been brought together (sti=
ll want
> >to hear Kat and Rich's story though <g>)

Well, you've already heard the story of how I met Karl (and if you haven'=
t,
the URL is at the bottom of this note <g>).  But I've had the pleasure =
of
meeting several other FoLCs as well, who have become dear friends.

When Piper and I started working on Healing, we expected to do the
whole thing by email.  Then one day, I made some comment in a note
about being in Austin, and she wrote back, "Get outta town! I'm in
San Antonio!"  I think it was like the next week, or at least not long
after, that we made plans to meet for lunch.  We were cautious, made
plans to meet at a restaurant, but we got along so well that pretty soon
she was coming to Austin every once in a while to work on the story
-- she paced, I typed, we finished each other's sentences -- it was
an extraordinary time!

Somewhere in there I wrote Merry-Go-Round, with a reference to
a local DJ in it, and got a note from Lori McE asking, "Are you in
Austin? I recognize this radio station!"  So we got together, with
Piper -- again at a restaurant -- somehow that's just easier.  And
later we added a fourth to our group -- DJRiter, who unfortunately
I didn't get the chance to know very well.  /me makes a mental
note to drop DJ a line next <g>

And then of course there's Nancy.  She wrote to me after one of
my first stories, and we hit it off right away.  She gave me story
ideas and played big sister -- it took us almost two years to finally
meet in person, but when we did (I traveled to Seattle, Washington
to spend a week at her house), it just confirmed what we already
suspected -- we're either sisters separated at birth or maybe just
the same person in two bodies.  (The fact that we have different
parents and don't really bear any great resemblance to each other
is just a minor detail <g>)  We read the same books, carry similar
purses with *identical* ball point pens (!), have extensive collections
of vinyl LPs (although hers is *way* more extensive that mine!).
We both spend the first few minutes with a new story reformatting
it to fit our exacting standards. <wink>  And in spite of being
wildly in love with our significant others, we both firmly believe that =

where Dean Cain is concerned, one photo is never enough...
research... must do research!

Oh! and I met MizMollee while I was in Syracuse last fall -- didn't
get to spend near enough time with her then, but who knows... next
year... <g>

Peace

FoLCStitch
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http://www.angelfire.com/tx/folcstitch/index.html

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Lois & Clark fanfic and a personal love story
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At 5:21 PM -0800 12/8/98, julie slisz wrote:

>I remember the first fanfic I ever read was "Purple Haze" by Susan
>Vancott.  I don't think its in the archive and I don't remember how I
>got it in the first place.

It was posted to the fanfic listserv (here) first, then sent to the
Archive.  It's up there; I just went to confirm! :)

Kathy

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At 10:35 PM -0500 12/8/98, demona wrote:

>Ohh but it gets better <g> Recently, I lost everything on one of my hard
>drives.. everything INCLUDING .. a certain opus of a novel I was writing
>with Kathy.. <g>

Gasp .. wheeze ....  Thank goodness for old backups! (and the fact that I
have it all saved, too. <g>)

> and yes, we've been writing some more, it's impossible to
>find free time these days but we've both committed to a Y2K deadline <eg>
>Ok Ok.. that part I made up, we're really almost done.. promise :)  We just
>have to find time to do the last 400 pages ..

ROTFLMAO!!!!

Kathy (off to write page 401 ;))

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I just have to say, allthough I haven't had the chance to meet anyone in
person myself, (allthough, I have made some wonderful friends through
email!)  I am thoroughly enjoying all your posts about your wonderful
friendships!  You hear so much bad news about meeting people through the
internet, that it's great to hear some good news! It's just incredible
that some of you have found their 'soul mates' and their best friends!
I'm so happy for all of you!

I think it was Barb who said in her post:

>>FoLCs are simply wonderful people...a friend in the truest sense of
the word.
[snip]
The only way we could explain it was through the characters.
People who are drawn to these characters, to what Superman represents,
the way
Clark lives his life, and L&C's continual fight for what is right, seem
to
possess this same innate goodness.<<

This is so true! This is exactly what I often think about and how I
explain it to my family when I tell them about all of you and about the
different ones I have met through email.  I can just "tell" they are
great people!

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On Tue, 8 Dec 1998 11:29:11 EST Charlotte Fisler <Cdfisler@AOL.COM>
wrote:

> Now let's get Lex. I know John Shea made a great Lex but Lex is evil
whatever incarnation he is in. Currently in the comics he seems to be
winning against Clark/Superman and I almost feel like throwing the darn
things out because of it. <

Seconded, thirded... n'th-ed! You are _so_ right, and that's one of the
reasons I don't read the mainstream Superman comics except on occasion.
Oddly enough, the comic based on the animated series does this aspect
better: #27 involves another plot by Lex to get Superman, but he
doesn't win -- in fact, he only _survives_ thanks to our hero. I don't
like the Lois-Clark relationship in that continuity, but at least they
do Luthor better than the "Super-team". _And_ they've still got the
Daily Planet.

As for "getting Lex" in S6... in the words of Darth Vader, "Leave that
to me." I have _plans_ for Mr Luthor <rubs hands and laughs quietly>.

Phil -- has anyone else noticed the way that Luthor's build and weight
fluctuates in the comics according to whomever draws him? Sometimes
he's fit and (relatively) slim, sometimes he's fit and chunky, and
sometimes he's back to the old over-indulgent figure of the early
Byrne-Wolfman days. I suppose his personal trainer is too scared of him
to tell him to cut down on his vices <g>.
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I wondered if there is anyone in the Toronto, Ontario, Canada area on
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In a message dated 12/8/98 8:22:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
superjuls@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

> I remember the first fanfic I ever read was "Purple Haze" by Susan
>  Vancott.  I don't think its in the archive and I don't remember how I
>  got it in the first place.  But Susan may remember me, I'm the girl who
>  lost the story several times before finally reading the end.  Lets see,
>  I think I had to have it emailed to me three times.  I don't know for
>  sure, but I'm very glad she put her email address on it, or I would
>  never have known what happened at the end. :)  I'm also glad she gave it
>  to me so many times.  I still have the copy I have now, printed and
>  stored in Superman Volume 1 of my great collection of notebooks (ok so
>  theres only 3 but oh well).
>

Yes, Susan remembers you. :)  And it was definitely three times.  If you or
anybody else (that's why this is posted to the listserv, not just a private
email) want to get my stuff (archived or not-- it usually takes a while for
anything of mine to travel from my mind to my computer to my web page to the
archive), it can all be found at
http://members.aol.com/Kirshnera/musicalff.html.

Peace, Love, and Superman,
~~>Susan, who was surprised to see her name pop up in the listserv!<~~
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In a message dated 98-12-09 01:11:26 EST, peace9@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes:

<< Oh! and I met MizMollee while I was in Syracuse last fall -- didn't
 get to spend near enough time with her then, but who knows... next
 year... <g> >>

Yes, I am no longer the only FOLC who's met Molly since Peace went to
Syracuse
to visit Karl and they hooked up with her. I'd been chatting with Molly
online
on AOL and by e-mail and then had an upcoming meeting in Syracuse. It's a
long
drive for me so I contacted Molly who offered me a place to stay overnight.
I
think her co-workers thought she was nuts cause I might be an axe murderer
<g>. But I'd already met other FOLCs and wasn't worried. I already felt I
knew
enough about Molly and her family not to worry. As it turned out, not only
did
I get along well with Molly, but also her then-6-year old son. :)

--Laurie (and you can see a pic with Molly on Peace's web site)
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Please ignore my last post to the list.
I hit the enter key before doing spellcheck.
You guys have really helped me with my fan fic, A TOTAL ECLIPSE OF THE
HEART
I need your help once more. My story has some flashbacks in it - both
scenes I have written and ones from the show.  One involves Christmas
Eve and LNC's house.  i wonder if any one has any suggestions also what
Martha and John could wear - something special, but not too fancy.

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I am glad Season 6 has started.  I just wanted to tell Pam and Chris I
have enjoyed the first two episodes immensely.  Surviving the 2 weeks
between episodes was rough, but well worth it.  The story was great and
would make an excellent television show.  I have to comment on Lex -- he
makes me want to throw up!

Do you take suggestions for episodes?  If you haven't already planned
out all the stories how about these ideas.

1) This one came to me after watching the New Krypton arc again.  Zara
and Ching have gone back to New Krypton; gotton married; are ruling
wisely; they have a baby, too; everything is going well on New Krypton;
it's time for them to take a vacation; they decide to go earth and visit
L&C - you take it from there or they invite L&C to visit them.

2) Or maybe an adventure of L&C going to the alternate universe and
helping out the AL & AC or visa versa.

Anyway, it might be interesting.

Melody
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>>  I just wanted to tell Pam and Chris I
have enjoyed the first two episodes immensely.  Surviving the 2 weeks
between episodes was rough, but well worth it.  The story was great and
would make an excellent television show. <<

Thanks, Melody! :-)  Believe me, the two weeks in between were rough on
us, too, as we struggled to put just the right finishing touches on Chris=
's
story <g> And don't forget Barb; I couldn't have written that first episo=
de
without her.

And I'd also like to thank you, Melody, for contributing all those review=
s
on the webpage :-)  Writers live for feedback!  And it's nice to see your=

name up in lights, too <g>

>> Do you take suggestions for episodes?  If you haven't already planned
out all the stories how about these ideas. <<

Actually, as Phil alluded, we have a plan <g>  We've got storylines
sketched out for all our episodes this year, and in most cases the author=
s
are already hard at work.  (Check out the "credits" section of the webpag=
e
if you want to know who's on our writing/editing team this year)

I like your ideas tho; perhaps some of the fanfic authors out there might=

be inspired ... or the premises might work well for an IRC round robin, t=
oo
<g>

PJ
who refuses to even *consider* S7 <g>

!^NavFont02F03EB001DMGJHGB7MGB9HIOMIQHI67MI69HJEC6638

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In a message dated 98-12-09 12:01:34 EST, jernigan@COMPUSERVE.COM writes:

<< PJ
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Oh, poo, Pam. You have to think ahead. Since, as you say, "writers live for
feedback," just think how much more you could get... <g>

--Laurie (who doesn't ever want to see it end)
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Piper,

Please e-mail me THE HEIR:HEALING.  I am over 18 and I promise not to
redistribute it.  Thank You.

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Piper,

I am over 18 and I promise not to reditribute THE HEIR: HEALING
I am sorry I forgot to give me your e-mail address.  It is

forum101@hotmail.com

Thank you

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Demi wrote:

>First fanfic I ever read?  It was Jiji Baker's "Oh What A Tangled Web We
>Weave" ... she got me hooked and then became one of my greatest online
>friends, and I'm sorry to say after she got married, I didn't get to speak
>much with her anymore.. I miss the gal! She left FoLCdom but not before
>being a tremendous writer for us <g>

Ah-ha! This would then undoubtedly explain why my four attempts over several
months to contact Jiji via the email link on her site to request her nfic
has met with silence. Couldn't those who have lost interest in fandom take
just a few moments to put a line on their site to wave their good-byes? Or
at the very least disconnect the link to their email address if they're not
interested in responding any more? It would save some confusion for new
fans. I had The Gorn's site bookmarked for months and spent time visiting it
regularly hoping for an update and more stories, before I realized from
other sources that she'd lost interest. Messages sent to her email link
resulted in silence too.

That gripe aside, I hear you, Demi! I love Jiji's work to bits (almost as
much as your own <g>). One of my first fanfics was WEB too and I immediately
went on a hunt for the others in Jiji's impressive repertoire - as is
evidenced by the fact that they are all gathered at the front of my very
first folder of fanfic. They were so waffy they were just the thing to cure
my rampaging LCWS at that time. (The fourth season had just finished on SKY
and the news had just broken there was to be no more.)

Anyone out there know where I can find Jiji's nfic if it's still around? I'm
sure that I don't have HONEYMOON on my files, for one. And I do so hate to
think I'm missing out on something. ;)

LabRat :)
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Organization: The Delphian School
Subject:      Re: THE HEIR - HEALING.

Piper,

Please e-mail me THE HEIR:HEALING.  I am over 18 and I promise not to
redistribute it.  Thank You.

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"For Nearly A Quarter Of A Century, I Have Been
Engaged In The Investigation Of The Fundamentals
Of Life, The Material Universe And Human Behaviour.
Such An Adventure Leads One Down Many Highways,
Through Many Byroads, Into Many Back Alleys Of
Uncertainty, Through Many Strata Of Life..."
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Date:         Wed, 9 Dec 1998 12:55:50 -0800
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From:         Terry Thurston <TerryT@BC.SYMPATICO.CA>
Subject:      THE HEIR - HEALING.
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Piper,

I am over 18 and I promise not to reditribute THE HEIR: HEALING
could you please send it to me???

thank you

angie
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Subject:      The Heir -Healing
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Piper,

Please e-mail me THE HEIR:HEALING.  I am over 18 and I promise not to
redistribute it.  Thank You.

Matthias

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Date:         Wed, 9 Dec 1998 18:47:25 -0700
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At 06:24 AM 12/9/1998 -0800, Sue M. wrote:

>I need your help once more. My story has some flashbacks in it - both
>scenes I have written and ones from the show.  One involves Christmas
>Eve and LNC's house.  i wonder if any one has any suggestions also what
>Martha and John could wear - something special, but not too fancy.

Matching plaid pajamas with bunny feet?

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
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Date:         Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:29:09 -0600
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From:         Kathy Brown <kathyb@FGI.NET>
Subject:      Re: S6: "For the Good of the Child"
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At 8:35 AM -0500 12/9/98, Atcliffe, Phillip wrote:

>As for "getting Lex" in S6... in the words of Darth Vader, "Leave that
>to me." I have _plans_ for Mr Luthor <rubs hands and laughs quietly>.

I think this answers any questions as to why I begged, pleaded and
prostrated myself to Phil to get him to write for S6. <vvbg>

Kathy

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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1998 00:03:33 EST
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From:         Crystal Wimmer <JCWimmer@AOL.COM>
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In a message dated 12/9/98 5:41:09 PM Pacific Standard Time,
Matthias.Drosch@MND.FH-FRIEDBERG.DE writes:

> Piper,
>
>  Please e-mail me THE HEIR:HEALING.  I am over 18 and I promise not to
>  redistribute it.  Thank You.
>
>  Matthias
>

Hi there... I hate to be a drag, but I have a question... I didn't think
requesting nfic was allowed on the list, but was supposed to go through
individual authors... am I wrong here??

I'm not trying to be a pain... but this is like the 4th request I've seen,
and
I'm a little tired of being spammed with letters to someone else.

Thanks :)
-Crys-
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From:         claudia silva <claudiabarros@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      about Dean Cain
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HI THERE!

I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FOLCS WHO HAVE MET DEAN CAIN PERSONNALY ONCE.I'M
TRYING TO DO THIS WEB PAGE AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVESOME TESTEMONIES
ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE MET HIM AND TALKED TO HIM.

THANKFULLY....

CLAUDIA BARROS SILVA

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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:37:00 -0500
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From:         "Atcliffe, Phillip" <Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: "For the Good of the Child" and fanfic joy
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On Wed, 9 Dec 1998 22:29:09 -0600 Kathy Brown <kathyb@FGI.NET> wrote:

Quoting me:
>> As for "getting Lex" in S6... in the words of Darth Vader, "Leave
that to me." I have _plans_ for Mr Luthor <rubs hands and laughs
quietly>. <<

> I think this answers any questions as to why I begged, pleaded and
prostrated myself to Phil to get him to write for S6. <vvbg> <

You know, after all the recent tales of good times both on- and
off-line with fellow FoLCs, I find it... ironic? disappointing?
frustrating? whatever... that Kathy and I have never met, so I never
got to _see_ (or hear) the begging, pleading and prostration. Rather
unfair, methinks <g>.

Of course, _my_ version is that Kathy electronically sidled up to me
and I couldn't resist the cyber-twinkle in her eye. Who says the
internet is dehumanising...? (What's a smiley for <waggles eyebrows>?
<g>).

I may as well add here that I got to "know" Kathy by sending her some
feedback about "Camping With Clark" (so remember, FoLCs -- read 'em and
write!). That story was one of those rare, but wonderful pieces of
writing that leave you (or me, anyway) feeling much happier about life,
the universe and everything, after you've read it. Just plain fun, and
both it and I were all the better for it. Thanks again, Kathy.

Phil, suddenly remembering another uplifting work -- the first issue of
the 1994? JSA comic. Pure joy, just like CwC.
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   -- Return to the Forbidden Planet
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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1998 08:48:01 EST
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Hi Crystal -
No, you're not being a drag.  I'm sorry for the requests on the list.  I
just
mentioned The Heir:Healing in passing and I guess a few people, who didn't
read it when Joyce first sent it out to the nfic list, would like to read it
now.  As I've written to some of them, and will write to the rest (maybe
they'll see it here <g>) I don't really have it in a format to be
distributed,
and Peace is way too busy with real life to do it (....ah, to be young and
in
love.....<g>), so Joyce (joyceef@mcs.com) has been distributing it.
(..."thank you, Ms Joyce".....Piper blows kisses in Joyce's general
direction......

Piper
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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1998 10:04:23 -0500
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>> << PJ
 who refuses to even *consider* S7 <g> >>

Oh, poo, Pam. You have to think ahead. Since, as you say, "writers live f=
or
feedback," just think how much more you could get... <g> <<

Hehe, after this last cliffhanger, I'm not sure I could *survive* much
more feedback <g>  Anyway, at this point last year I refused to even
consider S6, and here I am co-coordinating the thing... so obviously I ha=
ve
no self-discipline at all <g>

PJ

!^NavFont02F0161000FMGJHG94MG96HH621FC3

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  ChiefPam on the IRC
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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1998 11:17:01 PST
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From:         Peace Everett <peace9@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: about Dean Cain
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Claudia wrote:
> HI THERE!

Hi Claudia,

No, I haven't met Dean <sob, sniff>, but I thought I would
point out to you that you're more likely to get replies if you
don't type in ALL CAPS -- that's considered shouting online
<smile>

Peace

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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1998 12:26:44 PST
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From:         Peace Everett <peace9@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>
Subject:      Re: Sorry, no Superman Calendar for 1999 from Slow Dazzle
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Rowan wrote:
> I visited the Slow Dazzle site a few days ago and it seems you can stil=
l get
> the 1998 L&C calendar from them if anyone is interested.

and Georgia had given the URL:
>  http://www.slowdazzle.com

Looking through some very old messages <g>

Okay, I went to this site, but I don't see L&C calendars listed at all
-- Rowan, where did you see that you could still order 1998 L&C
calendars?  I'd love to have one, just for the pictures.

Peace

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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1998 15:28:54 -0600
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Piper,

Please e-mail me THE HEIR:HEALING.  I am over 18 and I promise not to
redistribute it.  Thank You.

Hawkman@hcol.net

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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1998 19:42:51 PST
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From:         Sue Modolo <smodolo@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Lord of the Flys
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Can somebody do me a favour who has the ep LORD OF THE FLYS on tape
Can you email me the dialogue of the scene where Clark shows up on the
porch outside Lois' apartment

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Date:         Thu, 10 Dec 1998 17:32:08 -0700
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From:         Debby <debby@SWCP.COM>
Subject:      About Nfanfic (was Re: The Heir -Healing)
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At 08:48 AM 12/10/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>[snip] so Joyce (joyceef@mcs.com) has been distributing it.
>(..."thank you, Ms Joyce".....Piper blows kisses in Joyce's general
>direction......
>
>Piper

/me steps in here Big Time...

Joyce will not distribute it to anyone who is not on the Nfanfic mailing
list.
Please don't write to her for the story unless you *are* on that list. She a
very nice person but she will not secumb to pressure in any form (not even
millions
of $$ in small bills, though she may consent to chat with you if such an
offer
actually materializes in her hands).

To get on the nfic list you must be +17.99 years of age, understand just
what
Nfanfic is, and promise not to distribute it without the author's (or
authors')
express permission.

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
keeper, Nfanfic mailing list
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1998 09:29:53 EST
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From:         Charlotte Fisler <Cdfisler@AOL.COM>
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In a message dated 12/10/98 10:37:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK writes:

<< -----------------------------------------------------------------
 "We gotta get out into Space, If it's the last thing we ever do!"
    -- Return to the Forbidden Planet
 A sentiment echoed by Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk)
  >>
YESS!!!!

Also << re  Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex (was: Incompatibility)>>

And also thank you also for the additional insight on this topic.

And finally (I'm catching up - I hope)

Quoting me:
>> As for "getting Lex" in S6... in the words of Darth Vader, "Leave
that to me." I have _plans_ for Mr Luthor <rubs hands and laughs
quietly>. <<

Write on!!! I can hardly wait.

You are the Best!!!!

Charlotte
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:13:48 EST
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From:         "Eileen F. Ray" <Eraygun@AOL.COM>
Subject:      L&C Fanfic Session December  12, 1998
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Hi Everyone,

Well, skip week is over and we hope you'll be able to join us Saturday,
December 12,   1998, for our fanfic writing session.

In this week's story it's Christmastime in Metropolis, and as Lois and Clark
contemplate the possibility that their family will be expanding, they along
with everyone else, are preparing to celebrate the holidays. Of course since
this is Metropolis we're talking about we all know that things will be just
a
little off center ;).

We would still like to hear from you if you have any story premises of your
own that you would like us to explore together.  You can either email them
to
me at:

        eraygun@aol.com

Or better still, just bring your ideas with you when you join us this
Saturday
or for our weekly "story bouncing" sessions on Wednesdays on #L&CFicOrg,
starting around 9:00 PM EDT.

We generally meet Saturdays starting at 3 PM EDT and try to start writing
fairly soon thereafter.  You can come and join the fun at any time, however.
We are usually there for several hours since writing a story takes time.

Since #L&CFanfic is on occasion "invite only" please message if you want to
join us.  If an official "inviter" is designated, we will let you know.
Some
of us should be hanging out on #Loiscla.

A note on procedure here ;) : When people need to be caught up on the story
in
progress after being bounced off IRC or just joining the session late,
please
try and avoid pasting the story directly into the channel window.  Please do
that in a private message or dcc-chat window instead.

Hope to see you all there!

Cheers,

Eileen
Eraygun@aol.com

PS Because of my office holiday party I'll be late tomorrow. So please start
without me ;). I'll catch up <eg>.
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Aloha everybodeee!

Well I *finally* finished these first two eps!  Not that they weren't
enjoyable enough to finish in one sitting, of course they were!  Life
just keeps me a little too busy these days, and everybody seems to
*always* need mommy! The only privacy I get is the few minutes of peace
in the bathroom! (did I really say that?!?! ;))  anyways, so I have to
grab any moment I can to read a sentence or two!

And I cherished every sentence read! Barbra, Pam and Chris, and all who
were involved--you did an excellent job!  You all are so incredibly
talented!

First I was really moved at the scene in ep1 were Lois gets to talk to
her mom and finally realizes how much her mother loves her. We all know
she does, of course, but this was a scene I had hoped to see for
awhile!  And what perfect timing, when Lois herself becomes a mother!
She's finally able to look at things differently now that she is
experiencing motherhood herself!  I'm glad she got to learn that life
wasn't always so bad, and that she was very loved and taken care of by
*both* parents.  Just goes to show what a little communication can do!
This scene brought tears to my eyes!   and wow, what a cliff hanger!
Almost glad I was behind in reading so I didn't have to suffer and wait
like so many other FoLC's! (well I did have to wait, had the story in my
hot little hand day and night just about but hardly had time to *really*
get into it at the pace I desperately wanted to!!)

Then ep2!!!  I actually really enjoy court scene movies!  They keep me
on the edge of my seat!  And I could just truly envision all of this
happening in my mind! All of the characters personalities and
reactions!  I especially love how you capture Perry and Jimmy's
personalities too!  Very well written! It was also neet how you gave the
Judge a face we recognize!  Judge Judy!  She was a great choice! I could
only see her character doing the "right thing".  Oh and all the tender
moments of Clarks towards his daughter!  Especially when he put her to
sleep levitating!  That was so cool!  I just love to read about his
interactions and caring for his child! It's so sweet!  Also the family
hug scene in the court building before the hearing!  That one got me
misty eyed too!  Wow!  Thankyou so much you guys!

j-meS8-)].........who's so very, very happy after she finishes an
episode until she realizes
                    that she's one more closer to the end, then she
wants to cry again!
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1998 19:58:59 EST
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FULLY FUNCTIONAL: Continued from part 3
_________________________________

[Lansbury]

Lois suddenly was by his side.  "Close?  Already?  What do you think the
problem, or I guess I should say the answer, might be?"

"Now, Lois.  I want to check my data before answering that.  But I do need
to
know some more information before I give you my conclusions."

"Anything. Just ask and I'll tell you whatever you need to know."

"Well, how far along do you think you were when you miscarried?"

"A little over three weeks. In fact, I've thought, and I can pinpoint the
exact day of conception. During that time Superman was very busy and the
Daily
Planet kept Clark and me occupied.  We only saw each other in passing for
for
about a week and a half."  Lois began to blush as she explained. "We even
had
to make an appointment to ... be intimate."

"That's it!  That's the variable I was missing!"

"What?"  both Lois and Clark said at once.

"Abstinence."

[Mackteach]

Clark's eyes widened as he turned to look at Lois.  He reached out to her,
pulling her close.  "Honey?  Are you all right?"

Lois shook her head as she continued to stare at Dr. Klein.  "Did I hear you
right?  Are you saying that *abstinence* will make the heart grow fonder?"

Dr. Klein nodded.  "Or at least make the chances of conception more likely."

Lois let Clark lead her to a chair.  "Abstinence ..." She looked up at Clark
and saw the same look of disbelief on his face.  Together they turned to
Klein
for further explanation.

While they had been absorbing the impact of Klein's pronouncement, their
friend had pulled out his ever-present notepad and begun scribbling some
calculations.

"Dr. Klein?"

Klein was mumbling to himself.  "... carry the two, drop the negative ..."

"Dr. Klein?" Clark tried once more.

" ... the square root of the derivative of the trigonometric function is
inverse to the ..."

Lois lost her patience.  "Dr. Klein!"

"Hmmm?"  Klein raised his head, startled at Lois' outburst.

Lois took a deep breath and tried to calm down.  Reaching out for the
scientist's arm, she tried to get him to focus.  "What exactly did you mean
by
..." She swallowed before uttering the word.  "... abstinence?"

Klein looked from Lois to Clark and back to Lois again.  Glancing down at
the
notepad, he made one final calculation.  "You can't ... copulate ... have
...
marital relations ..."  He looked once more at his notes.  "... for three
weeks ... two at the very least."  He ignored the audible sighs of relief
and
checked the figures again.

Klein showed his calculations to Lois.  "You see, I was working under the
wrong assumption.  When I first tested Su ... er, Clark here, I incorrectly
made the assumption that one standard deviation on the chart would be
sufficient ..."

He looked at Lois.  Seeing her blank stare, he tried to explain further.
"Think of it this way, Lois.  If we were considering human-human conception,
then one standard deviation away from the norm would be ideal ... 64% of all
data lies within that range."

Clark smiled.  "But, we're not talking human-human ..."

Klein nodded.  "Right, Clark.  We're talking human-Kryptonian.  That makes a
difference ... a *big* difference."

Clark put his hand on Lois' shoulder and gently squeezed.  "How so?"

"Well, with your ... um, enhanced capabilities ..." Klein ducked his head in
embarrassment for a moment before continuing.  "The normal data doesn't
apply.
Being within two, even three, standard deviations is completely acceptable.
Because of the probability factor," he explained, "an inordinate quantity of
the 'little swimmers' would, ah ... overwhelm the human female's system,
thereby *decreasing* the probability of fertilization rather than *increase*
it. By abstaining for a period of time, the 'playing field is levelled out'
... so to speak ... and the human reproductive system has an opportunity to
... um, compensate ... for the enhanced abilities and properties associated
with having super-powers."

Klein sat back, beaming.

Lois shook her head.  "So, can we have children or not?"

Klein smiled warmly and took Lois' hand in his.  "You can, Lois. It just
means
that you have to have a 'cool down' period for a short while, that's all."

Lois smiled brightly at Klein.  The scientist gasped as her arms went around
him, enveloping him in a tight hug.   "Thank you," she whispered to him.
"Thank you so very much."

Klein cleared his throat and hugged Lois back for a few seconds.  Catching
Clark's eye, he shook his hand, feeling grateful that he could help these
two
people, his friends.

The doorbell rang, catching all their attentions.  Clark lowered his glasses
and sucked in a breath.  "It's the whole gang.  Sam, Ellen, Lucy ..." he
turned to Klein,  ".. and Dr. Friskin."

[Misha]

Klein took a deep breath. "I can do this. I can do this." He continued
muttering to himself in the eternity it took for Lois to walk to the door.

"Mother..."

Ellen Lane brushed by Lois and stormed into the living room. Lucy winked as
she passed Lois, and Dr. Friskin followed Sam, scribbling furiously in a
small
notebook.

"Daddy?

"Now, Ellen..." Ellen pointedly examined the lint on the back of the sofa,
and
Sam threw up his hands in frustration.

Dr. Friskin pulled Lois aside in the entryway. "This is just a session with
your family. I've got a few questions I'd like to ask you later."

"Just a session? Usually Mom and Dad wait until they're inside to start
arguing!"

"Ah, well- I'd just asked them a simple question about your relationship
with
Superman."

"Relationship? We're friends! I know his wife- she'd rip out the throat of
any
woman who came near him...I should know, I'm the same way about Clark, ask
anyone --and besides, they're expecting kids, any day now, ask Klein --we'll
probably end up playing bridge together and carpooling the rugrats on
alternate Thursdays, even though they'll fly and I'll drive ... not Clark,
though..."

"Lois?" Clark's voice stopped the flow of words.

Lois took a deep breath, aware of the steadying presence of her husband
behind
her, and the anxious look in Dr. Friskin's eyes. "What?"

"How much coffee have you had to drink this morning?"

Lois sagged a little into Clark's shoulder. It was working.

[ChiefPam]

Friskin followed the cantankerous Lane clan into the living room, while Lois
busied herself with fetching coffee (or orange juice) for all her visitors.

When Lois finally sat down, Ruth pounced.  "You say you know Superman's
wife??"

Lois smiled.  "Yes, but that can wait until later.  Right now you wanted to
ask about my childhood, didn't you?  It wasn't all that unusual, I don't
think. A lot of couples had trouble in the '70s and '80s.  Mother, didn't
you
have several friends in similar situations?"

Lois pointedly looked at Ellen, who was not shy about taking over the
discussion.  At length, she held out on all real and perceived injustices,
overriding all of Sam's attempts to clarify and correct her version of
history.

Ruth Friskin, perforce, took notes, and as the discussion progressed, she
became engrossed in the narrative, asking leading questions at strategic
points.

Lois took the opportunity to slip away into the kitchen, taking refuge in
her
husband's arms.  "We're safe for the moment, but..."

"But she's not likely to give up." Clark finished for her.  "Yeah, but I
think
your plan will work.  And Dr. Klein knows what to say.

Lois pulled a face.  "I know, but will he be convincing enough?  I do have a
back-up plan, you know..." A devilish grin played on her face.

Clark smiled back.  "I don't think I want to know."

She giggled quietly.  "It's nothing, really... just sending Superman to
intimidate her out of writing the article."

He rolled his eyes.  "I was right, I didn't want to know."

She shook her head.  "Such a wimp I married.  And to think I could have had
Superman.."

"Nah, you couldn't have," he corrected her, grinning.  "His wife would have
torn your throat out, remember?"

Lois laughed. "You bet. So, is it time yet?"

Clark tuned into the 'interview' taking place in the front room.  "Yeah, I
think so ... Ellen's just about to the part about paying for your college
education all by herself.  You'd better hurry."

"True," Lois snorted,  "That part only takes her twenty minutes..."  She
slipped out of his arms once more and faded back further into the kitchen
and
up the back stairs.

It was more difficult than she'd anticipated to slip into the hot pink suit
again.  The last time she'd put it on, she'd had super-strength.  Of course
she could call Clark... She grinned.  Nope, better not, or we'll blow the
whole abstinence thing. With just a little more struggle, however, she was
into the suit.

"Okay, Lane... show time," she muttered, then continued in a slightly louder
voice.  "Clark?  Come help me 'touch down' in front of the house. I'm ready
for my close-up."

[zoomway]

Clark stopped and admired Lois in the outfit. "Mmm ...I always thought that
was such a great costume."

"So," she said, drawing a finger down his jawline. "You gonna be Superman
...
by my side, the indignant husband, all that?"

Clark frowned. "Honey, I ..."

"Yeah, yeah," she sighed. "Superman doesn't lie."

Clark thought a moment and did the "spin thing" into his costume. "Then
again," he said, slipping an arm around her waist, "my wife does all the
talking and I just basically repeat everything she says."

"One more 'Larryism' and you're a dead Superman," she scolded as they
drifted
down the side of the townhouse.

"Yes, Ultra, dear."

Lois folded her arms. "I swear I'll call you Supester in front of my parents
if you keep this up."

Clark opened his mouth, and then closed it ... audibly.

"Okay, go up and make a sonic boom, and then we'll knock on the door."

"Nag, nag, nag," he laughed, and blurred into action. Lois plugged her ears.
The boom rattled the windows, and in an instant he was back at her side
knocking on the door.

Lois shrugged. "Not bad."

"You know sonic booms are illegal."

She bumped him with her hip. "You love doing that and you know it," she
said,
and then her breath caught a moment as her mother opened the door. Always
that
feeling that she'd be recognized.

Continued in part 5
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FULLY FUNCTIONAL

An IRC Round Robin by

ChiefPam (jernigan@compuserve.com); Ckgroupie (NKWolke@t-online.de);
CrystalW
(JCWimmer@aol.com); Eraygun (Eraygun@aol.com); Lansbury (Lansbury1@aol.com);
Mackteach (Mackteach@aol.com); Misha (mhall@sound.net); zoomway
(Zoomway@aol.com)
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[ChiefPam]

It was the Saturday after Thanksgiving, and Lois was enjoying a
well-deserved
day of rest.  Family and friends had come and (thankfully) gone and she and
Clark both had the day off work to be thankful for each other.  Nothing, she
thought contentedly, could ruin this day.

Normally, of course, it was inviting disaster to think something like that,
Lois grinned to herself, but really ... after all she and Clark had been
through, it would take a lot to upset her.

That complacent state of mind lasted only until she opened the letter from
her
doctor.   "Did we forget to pay a bill?" she joked softly, then felt all
power
of speech leave her as she read the information. A short time later, when
Clark came downstairs looking for her, she was sitting on the sofa, the
letter
in her lap, lost in thought.  When she didn't speak, he sat down beside her.

"Lois?"

She started, suddenly recalled to the present.  "Oh, hi... Clark, this
letter..." Words seemed to fail her. Somewhat alarmed, he reached for it,
but
the motion galvanized her into action, and a small smile formed on her face.
"Let me tell you, okay?"

"Okay," he agreed. "What is it?"

"Remember the Halloween party at the Planet?"

He rolled his eyes.  "How could I forget?  We had a dead madam on the
premises, and half the newsroom was getting sick on bad shrimp."

"Including me," she half-smiled, "or at least that's what I thought.
Remember, the next day, I had those awful cramps, and my period ... well, it
was bad."

Clark nodded cautiously.  "I'm with you so far."

"Well, I went to my doctor, just to make sure it wasn't food poisoning.  She
ran a *bunch* of tests. I mean, I told her she didn't have to check for
syphilis or anything, but she just said that they wanted to be thorough --
you
know, if there weren't so many lawsuits, it'd be easier to -- well,
anyway..."

Clark composed himself to patience.  Obviously Lois had something important
to
say, but equally obviously, she was going to take her time about it.  If it
made her more comfortable, though, he could wait.

"And she said she'd call me with the results.  But that next week was really
busy, and she couldn't reach me, I guess, and I felt better so I never
thought
twice about it -- I mean, would you?"

"No, Lois, I guess I wouldn't," he offered, still foggy on where this might
be
going, but beginning to be a little concerned.  "Lois, you're all right,
aren't you? You're not sick --?"

"No, no," Lois assured him hastily.  "I'm fine ... I think." She took a deep
breath.  "I got this letter today," she waved it in the air as Exhibit A,
"and
I don't know whether I should cry or leap for joy."

Clark's face clearly showed how out of his depth he was, so she took pity on
him.

"The doctor said it wasn't food poisoning ... well, maybe just a touch, but
that wasn't the main problem.  We had a miscarriage."

"Wha--?" He shook his head as if to clear it. "A miscarriage," he repeated.
"But Dr. Klein said we couldn't ... you mean we *were*?"

She felt tears well up in her eyes, but managed to smile.  "Yeah... we were,
but we aren't any more. I lost it." Her voice broke a little on the words,
and
her smile wavered.  "Oh, Clark, we were going to have a baby, and we didn't
even know it! I'm so sorry ..." The tears did fall then, and Clark held her
as
she cried, rubbing her back and murmuring wordless sounds of comfort. A few
minutes later, when she tilted her head back and looked up at him, he saw
that
she was already pushing the disappointment aside, ready to think about the
amazing, the supposedly impossible thing that had occurred.

"Clark, I don't know how this happened --," she gave a watery giggle at his
raised eyebrow," -- well, of course I know *how* it happened, you know what
I
mean. Dr. Klein was so sure that I couldn't get pregnant, yet this test
proves
absolutely that I *did.*  And ..." she continued, seeing the dawning
realization in his eyes that was reflected in her own, "... that means that
if
it happened once, it can happen again!"   She hugged him tightly.  "I guess
we
*can* have babies, after all!"

If Clark had ever wondered for a second how much she'd wanted this, the joy
on
her face now told him.  He nodded, then spoke, his voice thick with emotion.
"Yeah, I guess so.  I love you, Lois."

"I love you, too, Clark."  Energized now, she pulled out of his embrace.
"Think Dr. Klein works Saturdays?  I'd say we need to have a little chat."

[zoomway]

***
Superman walked into Klein's office-lab and the doctor looked up and smiled.

"Morning, Superman.  Normally I'm not here on the weekend, but Ruth .. .uh,
Dr. Friskin and I took Friday off, and --"

"That's great, Dr. Klein, I'm just glad you're here," Clark said, and tugged
at the neckpiece of his costume. "There's been a new *development* with my
'girlfriend'."

Klein rose from behind the microscope and smoothed his labcoat. He still
felt
terribly disappointed in the turn of events regarding Superman's girlfriend.
Everything had looked so positive.

"Really?  I .. I hope it's good news. You know there's always adoption if
you
two decide to get serious .. get married."

"Well," Clark sighed loudly, "it *is* serious . I'd like for you to examine
*her* this time."

Klein looked thoughtful for a moment. "Certainly I'll examine her, Superman,
but you must understand that unless something is very unusual about her," he
shrugged, "I don't think the news will be much different."

Clark swallowed. "Would the fact that she had a miscarriage indicate
otherwise?"

Klein's jaw dropped. "I ... I.. well, *yes*, of course, that changes
*everything*.  Please, send her in!"  Klein managed a poor comb-over of his
sparse hairs as he watched Superman open the door. When Lois Lane walked
through it, Klein dropped the comb .. and his jaw again.

"Oh, my lord!"

"Dr. Klein," Lois said, raising a hand. "I know you probably need a drink
right now, and every tabloid thought you ever had about me and Superman is
coming eerily true, but we really need you to focus right now."

"Focus! Focus?" Klein's voice became shrill with near hysteria. "Superman's
girlfriend is Clark Kent's wife, and you want *me* to focus?!"

"Dr. Klein," Clark soothed, approaching the severely stressed scientist,
"you
and I have been friends a long time, and I would never do *anything* to
jeopardize that friendship or your faith in me."

Klein, a man who looked like he'd just lost his religion, folded his arms.
"What about Clark Kent's faith? Isn't *he* your friend, too?"

"We're very close," Clark smiled.

"Honey," Lois sighed. "Just do it, please, before Dr. Klein thinks I'm
seeing
Batman on the side."

"Batman," Klein muttered, and sat down shakily.

"Dr. Klein, I love Lois Lane with all my heart," he said, and began to spin.
When he stopped, he stood there as Clark Kent. "That's why I married her."

[Ckgroupie]

"Oh my lord!" It came out as a squeak. Bernard Klein didn't even recognize
his
own voice anymore. For a minute he just stared at the couple in front of
him.

"Dr. Klein?" Lois asked tentatively. "Are you all right?"

"Oh my lord," he repeated, shaking his head.

"You already said that," Clark cut in a little nervously. "I know it's a
shock
for you, but we thought you should know about it, now that Lois found out
that
she had this miscarriage..."

"Oh my lord."

Lois and Clark exchanged worried glances. Would he ever say something
different?

"Dr. Klein!" Lois stepped forward and patted him on the shoulder. "Dr.
Klein?"

"Oh my lo - Lois?" The doctor looked up. "Ah, yes, Lois. Superman... uh...
Clark, Mr. Kent... oh well." He shook his head again as if to clear it. "Did
I
really see what I saw?" he asked.

Clark nodded. "Yes, you did. I could repeat it if you want."

"No, no I don't think that's necessary. I think I got the picture. Well,
this
is certainly news." Dr.Klein watched Superman and Lois with newly awakened
interest.

"Yes, but the really important news is that something must be wrong with
those
tests you did," Clark said a little bit impatiently. "We need to find out
what
it is."

***
Dr. Ruth Friskin was excited. She had finally found a wonderful subject for
her work on dysfunctional families! Okay, the Lanes probably wouldn't like
the
idea of being her guinea pigs, but what an unusual model of a dysfunctional
family they were.

The father, one of a kind even in his 'typicalness'. The mother, also
exemplary. The children... well, perhaps Lois wasn't the best example of a
child from a chaotic childhood, but even better ... she could pass as the
proof that people are able to survive anything. And there *was* something
weird about her, too. This thing she had with Superman...

Dr. Friskin looked up from her notes about the Lanes. She would just *love*
to
find out more about that.  She had a date with Bernard Klein tonight.  She
sighed happily.  He was so nice *and* he was a friend of Superman and Lois
Lane.  Maybe Bernie knew more?

***
[CrystalW]

Dr. Klein sighed as he looked at the results again.  They were conclusive,
just missing the possibility that pregnancy could occur.  He ran another set
of numbers through the computer and his eyes opened more widely as he began
to
do figures in his head.  It could work, he thought.  It wasn't likely, but
then...

His thoughts were interrupted as his date for the evening breezed into the
lab.

"Honestly, Bernie!  If you're going to be late, you really need to call me.
I
have no clue why you can't simply pick up a telephone.  Have you seen anyone
regarding this intense dedication to your work?  I could recommend an
excellent therapist.  I feel I'm a little too *personally* involved to be
objective here." She concluded her statement by kissing his cheek before
looking up at his data.

He stood quickly, fumbling as he distracted her attention from the screen.
He
mumbled his apologies as he once more explained that he didn't need
therapeutic intervention.

She laughed lightly, used to both his excuses and his workaholic nature, and
not expecting either to change.  "So, what gem of knowledge kept you from
picking me up today?" she asked, looking at the screen once more.  Her
eyebrows raised as she saw the name on his monitor.  "Superman?"

"Yes, well, I was... working on some..." he broke off, uncomfortable with
lying to her, and yet not feeling free to discuss the matter.  In truth, he
was still slightly dazed by his recent discussion with the Kents.  Now that
he
thought about it, it did make sense, and he wondered why he hadn't put the
clues together before.

Seeing that he wasn't going to offer information, she let him off the hook.
"I understand.  You're his physician and you must maintain confidentiality.
I
won't press."  She smiled her understanding, even as she planned to do a
little digging at a less obvious time.

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[CrystalW]

"So, we're late for dinner," he said swiftly, as he turned around to close
the
file he had been viewing.  He had his answers anyway, or at least what he
thought were his answers.  He slipped his lab coat off his shoulders and
left
it on his chair while he escorted his date from the room.  "Where did you
want
to go tonight?"

***

Clark looked up at his wife and smiled again.  He was just deciding that he
really needed to look away, to get some work done, when she glanced up and
met
his gaze. She returned his smile briefly, and returned her attention to her
laptop.  Clark watched her a moment more, then he couldn't resist. He
crossed
the room, and seated himself on the arm of the couch where he could gaze at
her a little longer.

Lois typed a few more moments, then looked up with her best imitation of an
irritated expression.  "What??"

Clark broke into a silly grin.  "I'm just looking at my wife," he told her
innocently, then bent down to kiss her gently.

Lois returned his kiss, smiling.  "It makes a difference, doesn't it?" she
asked him quietly.

"No," he answered quickly.  "Well, yes," he corrected, "but not the way you
mean."

She understood perfectly, and put her arms around him to show him that.  "I
know.  It opens up a whole world of possibilities that we didn't have
before."

Clark sighed into her hair, enjoying the hug.  "Exactly," he whispered.

[Eraygun]

Lois nestled closer to Clark.  "I know this is going to sound strange, but
I'm
*so* scared right now."

"Scared, honey?"

"Yeah, I'm scared ... but it's sort of wonderful."  Clark gave Lois a
quizzical look as she continued. "I guess I'd parked the idea of being a
parent and all my fears surrounding it into an unused corner of my brain
after
we got that initial report from Dr. Klein. But now ..."

"But now, they're coming to the forefront?"  Clark asked.  Lois sighed and
nodded. Clark tilted Lois chin up so he could look her squarely in the eye.
"Lo-is. I told you before you're going to be a wonderful 'mommy'."

"You really think so?" Lois murmured as she snuggled back into Clark's arms
and placed her head on his chest. "It's not like I had the best role model."
Before Clark could answer the doorbell rang. "I wonder who that could be at
this time of the evening?" she said.

Clark paled a little as he X-rayed the door. "Oh boy," he said.

"Clark, who is it?"

"It's your parents and Lucy, honey."

[Lansbury]

Lois placed her hands on Clark's thigh and pushed herself off the sofa.

"I wonder what's happened?  They don't come all together unless they're
invited.  You don't think something terrible is wrong, do you?  No one
mentioned anything on Thanksgiving, did they?  Did you notice any of them
acting strangely -- no, wait, forget I asked that last one."

The questions came in rapid worried succession as she made her way towards
the
front door, leaving Clark on the sofa and not giving him a chance to get a
word in to answer her. He caught up with her in the middle of the room.

"Honey, we won't know if we don't open the door and let them in."

Lois smiled at his logic. "I can always count on you to keep me on an even
keel."  She placed a quick kiss on his lips as she moved to open the door.

"Mother! Daddy! Luce! What a surprise."  She looked at the silent people
standing on her doorstep.  The trio stood their ground, no one wanting to be
the first to enter.

"Sam, you agreed to tell her.  I am not going to be the one.  She blames me
enough already and I'm not going to be the object of her anger."

"Hello, Princess, sorry to barge in, but..."  Sam took his former wife and
younger daughter by the arm and pushed both through the doorway.

"Tell me what?  Is everyone okay?  Are any of you sick or dying?  What do
you
mean 'object of my anger', Mother?"

The group moved into the living room and sat down.  Ellen looked at Sam.  "I
knew you'd leave this up to me."

Lucy looked at both parents and back at Lois.  "Everyone is healthy. In that
sense we're fine. But, " she went on calmly, "because we're a total wreck of
a
family, that psychiatrist, Dr. Friskin, wants to study us. Can you believe
that?  She said we're the most atypical dysfunctional family she has ever
seen.

"What?"

"I'm not kidding."

"Us?"

"Yep, us."

"Why?"

"You heard me.  We," pointing to her parents, "have made being a mess of a
family a fine art, and now the *good* Dr. Friskin wants to study us."

"Mother? Daddy?"

[Mackteach]

Sam looked from Ellen to Lucy, finally resting his gaze on Lois.
"Actually,
Princess, it's more like Dr. Friskin wants to ask us some questions about
our
relationships with each other ..."  At Ellen's snort of disgust, Sam
grimaced.
"Now, Ellen ... we aren't exactly the model family ... or parents."

Ellen glared at Sam.  "And who's the primary cause of that, Sam Lane?  Let
me
ask you that?"

Sensing that a squabble best kept in private was about to erupt, Clark spoke
up.  "I'm sure that Dr. Friskin doesn't mean to open old wounds, Ellen."

Lois nodded in agreement.  "That's right, Mother.  She's just approaching
our
family ... from a clinical point of view."

Lucy smiled.  "Well, she does want to talk to you, Lois.  And Clark."

"Me?"

"Yes, Clark.  You.  Now that you're married to Lois, you're part of the Lane
family."  Lucy grinned mischievously.  "I remember her asking me the other
night if you ever showed signs of jealousy of ..."  Her voice trailed off
and
her eyebrow raised teasingly.

Lois and Clark looked to each other, speaking simultaneously. " ...
Superman."
They grinned, enjoying the shared secret.

Lois walked toward the kitchen.  "Well, Dr.Friskin can ask all the questions
she wants.  *I* have nothing to hide.  Anyone want something to drink?"

As Lois left the room, three pairs of eyes zeroed in on Clark.  Fidgeting
slightly, he looked at his in-laws.  "What?"

Sam smiled and put his hand on Clark's shoulder.  "Now, Clark.  It's all
right
to feel a little ... jealous."

Clark chuckled nervously.  "Sam ... I don't know what you're talking about.
I
have nothing to be jealous about."

Lucy winked at Clark.  "Aw, come on, Clark.  You can't tell me that when
Lois
was throwing herself at Superman you never envied the guy?  Wished that you
were him?"

Ellen nodded.  "She still is a *good* friend of his, isn't he?"

Clark stood up.  "We *both* are, Ellen.  And no, Lucy.  I never envied
Superman."  Seeing that they still weren't convinced, he sighed, sat back
down
and tried to explain.

"Superman and I are close ... *very* close.  Ever since he made his first
appearance, there's been this ....  I don't know ... maybe it's because I
was
an only child, but ... I *knew* what he was going through.  Being alone.
Not
really sure where he fit in ..."  He looked at Lucy.  "You have a sister,
Lucy.  You fight with her and there may be times when you don't like each
other.  But she's still your sister."  Putting his hand over his heart, he
continued.  "I only had my parents.  Superman is the closest person to a
brother that I know."

Lucy nodded, understanding.

Clark turned to Sam and Ellen.  "I love Lois more than life itself. I know
that Superman loves her as well.  And, he'd do everything in his power to
keep
her safe from harm.  Yes, Superman's a friend ... a close friend.  If I
can't
be there for her, then I'd trust him with her life.  Jealous?  No, Sam.
There's no reason for me to be jealous.  There's a lot of Lois to love."

>From the kitchen door, Lois smiled at Clark's words.  Clearing her throat,
she
re-entered the room carrying a tray of glasses and iced tea.  She pointedly
ignored the sniffling from her mother and sister.

Placing the tray on the coffee table, she began to pour.  "So, anyone have
anything interesting to say while I was out of the room?"  She looked warmly
at Clark and mouthed 'I love you' to him.

[Misha]

***
"So how's your paper on the Lanes going, Ruth?"  Bernard Klein eased back in
his chair as the waiter whisked their empty plates away.

"Oh, wonderful, darling!" Dr. Friskin leaned forward, her eyes sparkling,
reflecting the glow of the oxidation of the paraffin in the candles.

Dr. Klein blinked and stared into his wine glass, slowly swirling the ruby
liquid. It was interesting how ethyl alcohol affected his upper cerebral
functions.

"...on the other hand, Lucy's been so helpful. She's given me access to her
diaries, and a few of Lois' journals from high school, a period where it
seems
the most stress was placed on the Lane family unit..."

He watched the liquid swirl, drawing his attention down into the glass, much
more fragile than his favorite Erlenmeyer flask, and much harder to put on a
magnetic stirrer.

"...so between the journals and the quarrels I've observed between Sam and
Ellen, I've got enough for a whole book!"

KLein glanced up from his glass. "A book? Then what are you going to write
for
'Psychiatric American'?"

"Lois Lane and Superman, of course."  Klein jerked up a little. "I haven't
decided whether I'm going to attack the superhero infatuation angle or maybe
go at it from Clark Kent's point of view."

"Clark Kent's point of view?" Klein's voice rose as he lifted his napkin to
his upper lip.

"Why, the jealousy angle of course." Dr. Friskin sipped at her water glass
and
watched him over the rim. Bernie only sweated when...and they weren't in a
closet now. "Apparently, Clark and Superman have always been friends, and
continue to be so. I find that extremely interesting since they were both
suitors for her affection."

"They were?"

"Surely you've witnessed some interaction between Clark and Superman- maybe
you could tell me about them- how they behave...nothing that would
compromise
your patient's confidentiality, of course."

"Of course..." Klein whispered. How would Supe...Clark handle this? he
wondered. He'd never seen them together before ... it was all so obvious
now.
Ruth was a bright woman, and he was dead meat if the secret got out. He
didn't
feel so well, all of a sudden.

Continued in part 3
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Hi everyone <g>

The IRC Round Robin writers have been at it again, and as a result I have
the
pleasure of posting our latest story, "Fully Functional"

This is a follow up to our Thanksgiving story "Plenty to Be Thankful For"
and
in it some startling news raises Lois's and Clark's hopes that they may be
able to have children despite Dr. Klein's gloomy prognosis in Family Hour.
Meanwhile, as Dr. Friskin begins her examination of  into the disfunctional
Lane family she's sidetracked by Lois's *unusual* relationship with Superman
and she begins to investigate it as well and of course she wants help from
the
one and only Dr Klein ;)

We enjoyed writing this story and we hope you enjoy reading it. As always
comments are welcome .

Cheers,

Eileen
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FULLY FUNCTIONAL: Continued from part 2
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[ChiefPam]

"Uh, well, I never thought about it that way, Ruth," he prevaricated, trying
to think fast.  He glanced around the restaurant, hoping that it would catch
on fire or something ... No such luck.

Inspiration struck.  "Actually, I never got the idea that Superman was
pursuing Lois, so much as it was the other way around."

Friskin cocked her head, considering this possibility.  "Well, when I first
saw her, she seemed to regard him as a suitor ... one of the men in her
life.
Do you suppose she simply decided that Clark was a better choice?  I suppose
that would make him feel more secure," she mused.

She faced him again, "So your hypothesis is that it was her choice?  That
Superman may well have felt somewhat relieved when she chose Clark?"

He tried to process that.  He'd had years of practice in thinking of Clark
and
Superman as different people, but that paradigm had shifted, and it was hard
to find his way through the new matrix to a suitably non-revealing truth.
"Well, I'm sure that he was happy for them," he offered weakly.

Friskin was distracted, lost in a new hypothesis.  "Hmm, Superman as an
unwilling recipient of proffered sexual favors... I suppose it's not too
surprising.  They do seem to have progressed beyond that stage, however."
She
frowned.  "It's just that when I first saw him, he seemed very much
interested
in a woman. I had assumed that woman to be Lois, and *she* assumed he was
interested. Hmmm..."

Klein took another gulp of his drink.  "Maybe, maybe not.  Um... a year or
so
ago, Superman did mention a girlfriend... Err, maybe I shouldn't have said
that," he concluded, his heart sinking as he saw the interest dancing in his
date's eyes.

"How fascinating, Bernie!  I'm sorry, I shouldn't be asking you so much."
She
nodded decisively.  "I've got an appointment with the whole family tomorrow.
I'll ask them."

[zoomway]

Klein tapped the edge of his glass; it had interesting harmonics. "Tomorrow?
Do you mind if I tag along, Ruth?"

Friskin was pawing through her oversized purse. "You're displaying an
interesting form of co-dependency, Bernie, and maybe just a touch of ... ah,
here it is," she said, pulling a pad from her purse.

She began to leaf through the pages. "Here it is, I knew it!" She beamed
triumphantly. "Superman did mention Lois by name, and feared he was losing
her
to some other man."  She laid the pad on the table. "It could be that
Superman
had something of a Messianic complex. Feeling he had to be 'savior to the
world', but losing his personal self."

Klein smiled. Ruth, though she would never see it, was a lot like Lois Lane
herself, always investigating, always digging .. He shook his head. "Well,"
he
began carefully. "That could be it, a Messianic complex .. and couldn't that
be a mask for an inferiority complex?" he added, having no idea what he was
talking about.

"Yes!" she agreed. "Of course, he could place himself in the role of savior
because on a human interaction level, he might feel inferior to mortal men
who
could offer Lois stability."  Friskin smiled warmly. "Bernie, my dear, you
missed your calling."

Klein took a long swig from his wineglass. "I missed *something*, that's for
sure."

***

"Dr. Klein?"  Lois said, opening the door on a very nervous-looking man.

"May I come in ... now .. please?"

Lois swung the door wide. "Of course.  It wouldn't be the Kent home if there
weren't visitors at the crack of dawn," she said, but her sarcasm was
blunted
by a big yawn.

"I know this is very awkward," Klein said, and then yawned in response to
hers. "But Dr. Friskin, and please understand I love her dearly, is scaring
the pants off me."  Lois turned and tried to focus her decaffeinated
eyeballs.
Klein blushed. "Figuratively, of course."

"Of course." Lois tipped her head towards the kitchen. "I need coffee, and
so
do you."

"I don't like coffee. It keeps me awake during staff meetings," he replied,
and preceded her through the door. "Good morning, Superman," he said as he
took a seat at the kitchen table.

"It's 'Clark', please, Dr. Klein, and would you like orange juice since you
don't like coffee?"

"Amazing. You know I don't like coffee? Are you psychic?" Klein burbled.

Lois tugged Clark's earlobe as she reached for a coffee mug. "Super-hearing,
Dr. Klein."

"Oh, right." He shook his head. "I'm not used to him being super in a suit
and
tie."

Lois kissed Clark's cheek. "He's *always* super, Dr. Klein. Trust me."

Klein blushed. "Yes, I'm s..sure that he is. I must have had the idiotic
idea
that the costume didn't actually come off."

Lois suddenly spewed a mouthful of coffee. Clark laughed and dabbed at her
chin.

"Too hot, honey?" he asked innocently.

"Much too hot," she sighed. "Okay, Dr. Klein, why the sunrise visit?"

[CrystalW]

"Well, I wanted to let you know that Ruth has decided to use your
relationship
with Superman... Clark... your husband... well, he wasn't your husband but
he
is, and..."

"Dr. Klein," Clark said, breaking into the ramble, "what exactly does...
Ruth... want to do?

"Oh, didn't I say?" Klein absently nodded to Lois as she gave him a glass of
orange juice.

"No," Lois answered him.  "You didn't say."  She gave her husband a look of
frustration that he countered with one of tolerance.  He had more experience
with babbling, and he knew how to take it in stride.

Dr. Klein dismissed the silent communication that went on between the Kents,
and finally got around to his concerns.  "She's decided to use your
little...
love triangle... as the basis for her most current paper."

Clark closed his eyes and sighed as he considered the information.  He had
known that having Dr. Friskin delve into Lois' family would be inconvenient,
but this was unacceptable.  "I thought she was only investigating the
dysfunctional Lanes," he said slowly.

"Oh, that's for her book," he said dismissively.  "I'm talking about the
paper
she's writing.  She intends to explore your relationship with Superman."

"Well, that should be interesting," Lois said with more than a trace of
sarcasm.

"She is the busy little writer, isn't she?" Clark added in a similar tone of
voice.

"I don't suppose she ever considered someone else for her analysis, did
she?"
Lois asked hopefully.

"Well, no," Klein answered, "But... I suppose we could ask her to."

Lois mumbled, "Like that would do us any good," beneath her breath, and
excused herself from the room.

Clark watched her go, wishing that he could join her, but was too well
brought
up to do so.  "Dr. Klein, would you like some toast?"

At his enthusiastic nod, Clark stood, and began toasting bread.  As he'd
expected, he soon heard his wife's voice from upstairs.  Well, he thought,
at
least she was more discreet than to throw her silverware on the floor and
drag
him down there with her.

"I can't believe the woman," she said.  He did his best not to smile as she
shifted into high gear.  "I trusted her, and she's supposed to be a
professional.  Doesn't she realize that these are lives, not case studies?
I
have half a mind to let her know just what I think of her meddling in my
family and my life. It's bad enough that she's dissecting my childhood, but
now she's attacking my relationships with you and Superman ... and you
*know*
what I mean.  She's no better than a tabloid reporter with a degree in
medicine. Just a nosy busy-body... If she weren't so close to Dr. Klein, I
swear I'd punch that woman right in the nose!  "

Clark took several deep breaths to prevent himself from laughing as he heard
her rant coming down the stairs and approaching the door to the kitchen.  As
the door swung open, his smiling wife entered, dressed in a crisp pair of
slacks and a soft sweater.

"Now, Dr. Klein," she said in a sweet and controlled voice, "there has to be
some way to maneuver your girlfriend away from this particular topic.  After
all, I'm not the slightest bit interesting or unusual, nor is my family,"
she
went on, taking a seat next to the doctor, her coffee cup in her hand.

"Dr. Klein, I have to agree with Lois.  Isn't there some conflict of ethics
if
she tries to do more than one research project on a single subject?" Clark
offered Klein the requested toast, and took a seat beside his wife.

"Well, I suppose you have a point.  Still, just because a subject has been
researched, that doesn't mean that there isn't anything more to learn from
it.
If I know Ruth, she will continue regardless of whether she can  publish the
results.  She has such insatiable curiosity." His eyes became slightly
glazed
as he glanced off into the distance.  "Truly insatiable."

"Okay," Lois cut in, not really wanting to know what the good doctor was
thinking at the moment.  "If she wants knowledge, then knowledge we'll give
her."  She turned to her husband with a look he knew all too well.  "I've
got
an idea..."

[Eraygun]

"Honey, I don't think I'm ready to make another revelation so soon," Clark
interrupted.  They rose from the kitchen table and moved to the living room,
where Clark and Klein took seats while Lois paced.

"That's not what I had in mind," Lois protested. "All we have to do is ...".

"This is all my fault!" Dr. Klein suddenly interjected. "If I wasn't seeing
Ruth socially she probably never would have connected with you again. I know
what I'll do ... I'll stop seeing her, maybe that will distract her --"

"Dr. Klein..." Clark began.

"Better yet, I'll leave town!" He jumped up and headed for the door, but
found
his way blocked.

"Dr. Klein, get a hold of yourself!" Lois shouted. Clark steered him back to
his seat, and stood nearby.

Dr. Klein closed his eyes and took several deep breaths. "I'm sorry. I
didn't
mean to go off the deep end. It's just I think of you and Super.. I mean
Clark
... as my friends, and I'd hate to think that I've put you in jeopardy
somehow."

Lois gave Klein a warm smile. "You shouldn't just think of us as friends,
Dr.
Klein, we *are* friends."

Clark nodded in agreement. "That's right. You're probably one of the few
people in the world who actually thinks of Superman as a real person. You've
been someone that both Lois and I could talk to, and you've always been
there
when we've needed you. We're both proud to call you a friend," Clark said as
he gently placed a hand on Klein's shoulder. "And we always will be."

[Lansbury]

Clark could feel the muscles of the older man's shoulder tighten as he
straightened his back.

"Thank you. Now, what's your idea, Lois?"

Clark looked at Dr. Klein and was surprised. He sounded calm and collected.
Just shows you what a little bit of reassurance can do for the soul, he
thought. Clark's attention returned to his wife and both he and Klein
listened
and nodded as she explained how to get out of this sticky situation.

A half hour later, Dr. Klein's voice was shaky but confident.  "I can do
that.
Yes, I can do that. I'm no actor but I can do what you want me to."

Lois looked at Clark and whispered.  "If he pulls it off I will personally
see
to it he gets a special nomination for an Oscar this year."

Clark turned to hide his smile. "I guess we'd better put this plan in
motion."

"Oh, and I'm close to figuring out the other problem too," Klein put in. "I
have to check one set of figures and get right back with you."

Continued in part 4
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FULLY FUNCTIONAL: Continued from part 4
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[zoomway]

"Ultra Woman? Oh, my," Ellen said, her breath catching in a manner similar
to
her daughter's. "We were just talking about you ... that is, Dr. Friskin--"

"I know about Dr. Friskin's proposed paper," Lois said sternly, slightly
over-
pronouncing her words. "That's why my husband and I are here," she said, and
moved past her mother purposefully.

Clark nodded to Ellen. "Mrs. Lane," he said, and followed Lois.

Ellen swallowed and placed a hand on her chest. "My poor baby might be in
trouble," she whispered.

The assembled guests in the room stood. Two spandex-clad superheroes, even
in
Metropolis, was a rather awe-inspiring sight.

[CrystalW]

Lois ignored her mother's comments as she entered the room.  She and Clark
stood side by side and faced the family, even though it took all their
strength to maintain straight faces. The fact remained that the matter *was*
a
serious situation, and this farce would simplify their lives for years to
come.... if they could just manage to get through the next few minutes.

"Dr. Friskin, Dr. Klein has told us that you have concerns regarding our
connection with the Kents.  We are here to assure you that we are simply
friends, albeit good ones, and that our relationships go no further than
that."  Lois kept her voice steady and strong, using Clark's model as
Superman
as her guide. "In fact, Superman and I are expecting our first child, so the
thought that either of us would be involved with someone else is completely
out of the question." She turned to Clark as she said it, seeing the sparkle
in his eye, and allowed herself a small smile.

"That's right," Clark added, returning his wife's loving glance.  "Although
even Dr. Klein hasn't been able to tell us how long gestation will be."

Dr. Klein stepped in, playing his part to the hilt, and nodded his head
enthusiastically.  "That's correct.  That's what I was going over on my
computer when you picked me up Saturday at the lab... I'm trying to
calculate
Kryptonian gestation."

Dr. Friskin nodded in understanding, realizing why he had withheld the
information from her.  She had been correct, it *was* a matter of patient
confidentiality.

"Dr. Friskin, I've come to ask that you reconsider your paper on Lois'
relationship with my husband.  It's difficult enough to allow him to protect
and assist the planet alone, while I am for all intents and purposes...
grounded." She placed her hands over her flat stomach to emphasize her
point.
"Surely you can see that having the world speculating on my husband's
fidelity
cannot be a good thing for our child."

"Lois and I have never been any more than friends," Clark added.  "Clark is
comfortable with my being around her, just as I am comfortable with my wife
being around him, and that's what's important."

"It's a matter of privacy and trust," Lois concluded.  "And that doesn't
belong in a scientific journal."

Dr. Friskin had listened to the appeal without interruption, and she began
to
nod in agreement.  "I suppose you're right," she said quietly.  "Although,
perhaps the scientific community would benefit from learning of a friendship
as strong as yours."

Clark's head popped up with a familiar alert expression just then, and he
made
excuses for himself and his wife quickly.  Taking Lois' arm in his own, he
quickly flew them out sight, leaving the stunned group in the doorway of his
home.

"That was brilliant," Lois said brightly as Clark brought them in through
the
bedroom window.  "And you were so convincing!"

Clark looked slightly abashed as he began to explain.  "Um, Lois, I seemed
convincing because..."

She understood immediately.  "Because there is an emergency," she concluded
for him.  "Be careful."

He nodded and leaned forward to kiss her.  "I love you," he told her
quickly,
stepping up to the ledge of the window.  "And don't forget to brush out your
hair."

She smiled as he took off from the ledge, and quickly began to change
clothes
once more.  She tucked the costume away, then followed his instructions and
ran a brush through her hair, allowing the stiffly moussed strands to bounce
freely about her face once more.

"Well, time to see if it worked," she told herself quietly as she reached
for
the door to her bedroom.  "Let's just hope it was the performance we had
hoped
for."

[Mackteach]

Going down the back stairs, Lois stopped in the kitchen and picked up the
coffee pot. Backing out against the door, she took a deep breath and walked
toward the living room.

Standing next to Dr. Klein, she fixed a look of disappointment on her face.
"Oh!  I thought I heard Superman and Ultra Woman ..."

Sam took the coffee pot from her.  "You did, Princess, but I suppose duty
called.  They left in quite a rush."

"More like a 'whoosh,' Dad" Lucy corrected.  She held out her coffee cup for
a
refill.  "It was pretty impressive."

Everyone settled into their seats.  Lois watched as Dr. Klein walked toward
Dr. Friskin.

"Ruth?  Are you all right?"

Dr. Friskin looked at Klein, a slightly dazed look on her face.  She quickly
recovered.  "Yes, Bernie.  I'm fine."

Klein and Lois exchanged a quick look.  "You're sure, Ruth?"

"Absolutely."  She paused for a moment, gathering her thoughts.  "Those two.
Superman and Ultra Woman.  A very impressive couple.  There's a great deal
of
humanity about them ... and a great deal of understanding about the human
condition."  She turned to Lois.  "You're very lucky to have them as
friends,
Lois."

Lois smiled over the rim of her cup.  "I know, Ruth.  Clark and I are both
fortunate to have the friends that we have."  She winked at Dr. Klein,
smiling
softly at the blush of embarrassment that rose on his face.  Placing her cup
down, she looked at Dr. Friskin.  "So ... are you ready to start?"

Friskin looked about the room.  Sensing the tension and trepidation in the
air, she smiled at Lois.  "Maybe tomorrow would be better.  I think I might
have to re-examine the reasons why I felt compelled to write about your
family.  I do have to admit that I'm interested in the dynamics that go on
in
your family and the interpersonal relationships that you've had to deal
with,
but as Superman and Ultra Woman reminded me, there's privacy and trust
involved."

"And how does that make you feel, Ruth?"

She turned and smiled at Dr. Klein.  "Let's discuss that, shall we, Bernie?"

Still smiling at each other, the two doctors walked toward the front door.
Lois joined them.  She held Friskin's hand for a moment.

"I'm sure you'll figure out the best way to handle this ... Ruth."  She
turned
to Klein and held out her hand to him.  Shaking it warmly, she smiled.
"Thank
you again, Dr. Klein.  You're a good friend to Superman ... and to us."

Dr. Klein smiled back at Lois and squeezed her hand.  "Tell Ultra Woman when
you see her that I expect her at STAR Labs for a check-up soon.  Say in
about
... three weeks."

Lois smiled brightly.  "I'll tell her."

She closed the door after the departing doctors and turned to face her
family.

As usual, it was Ellen who broke the silence.  "I'm glad, Lois."

"Why is that, Mother?"

"Well, I think Dr. Friskin wanted to know more about your high school
journals."

Lois frowned.  "My journals?  What about them?"  Realization dawned and she
turned to Lucy.  "You didn't!"

Lucy grinned and moved toward the front door.  "Just the one that had the
stories about Joe Malloy ..."

"Lu-cy!"

Growling, Lois chased Lucy out the front door.  Ellen watched her two grown
daughters exit and sighed heavily.

Sam continued to read the Daily Planet.

***

Three weeks later ...

Lois stepped out of the bathroom, hunched over, toweling her hair dry.
Through the thick terry cloth, she heard the familiar "whoosh" that signaled
the return of her husband and the world's hero.

She didn't stop the smile that came to her face as she looked in the mirror.
It had been three weeks.  Three long weeks.  Three long, frustrating weeks.
Three weeks of kisses and touches.  Three weeks of lying in each other's
arms
at night, whispering soft tender words of love.

She sighed.  Three weeks.  Three weeks of doing everything that should have
resulted in nights of passion and lovemaking, but didn't.  Three long weeks.

She heard Clark spin and couldn't stop the quickening of her heartbeat.  She
finished toweling, and shook her head, leaving her hair a softly tangled
mass
of brown.  She looked into the mirror, her hands gripping the edge of her
dresser.

She held her breath when in the reflection she saw Clark standing in the
doorway of their bedroom.  He had spun out of the suit and it was now
hanging
loosely from his hand.  Catching her gaze, Clark smiled softly and walked
toward her, the red and blue suit dragging along.  Lois returned his smile
in
the mirror, watching as he walked, the muscles of his stomach evident
through
the unbuttoned front of the shirt he now wore.

She loved how he looked, the open shirt revealing his wide expanse of chest,
his sleep shorts displaying muscular thighs and legs.  She sighed, her
breathing now shallow and rapid, her legs suddenly weak, and tightened her
grip on the dresser in an effort to keep herself upright.

Clark tossed his suit onto the laundry hamper and stood behind Lois, close
enough to hear her rasping breaths, close enough to smell her sweet scent,
close enough to touch her.

"It's been ... three weeks ..." he whispered into her ear, his breath warm
and
exciting against her skin.

"Three ... long ... weeks ..." she managed to reply.  She turned her head
back
toward him and his mouth captured hers.

Lois released her death-grip on the dresser and brought her hands up behind
her, her fingers tangling in Clark's hair, her fingernails raking along his
neck.  Clark moaned, his mouth moving from her lips to nuzzle at her throat.

He brought her against him, feeling her rapid heartbeat pounding against his
chest, then sighed and held her tightly, floating them to the bed.  He laid
her gently on the bed, lying next to her, his hand tenderly on her stomach.

She smiled up at him. "But now," she whispered, "the three weeks are over...
yes?"

"Oh, yes ..." he murmured, as he drew her even closer, "...yes."

***

Clark kissed his wife softly, hearing her take deep breaths, her heartbeat
slowing to normal.  Laying his head on her breast, he lightly stroked her
stomach.

Lois smiled at the top of his head, her fingers combing through his hair.
She
sighed.  "Three weeks ..."

He smiled and kissed the swell of her breast.  "Three *long* weeks ..."

"Think we made a new life?"

Clark raised his head and moved up until he was looking into her eyes.
"Don't
you remember what I told you?  Every time we make love ..."

" ... it is life.  I know, but this time ..."

Clark silenced her with a soft kiss.  "This time ... we'll have to see.
Until
then ..."

"... let's create some more ..."

Clark smiled, love in his eyes.  "I like how you think."  He kissed the tip
of
her nose.  "I like how you feel."  He kissed her lips.  "I like how you love
me."

Lois smiled.  "Let me show you what I like ..."

THE END
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At 07:42 PM 12/10/1998 -0800, Sue M. wrote:
>Can somebody do me a favour who has the ep LORD OF THE FLYS on tape
>Can you email me the dialogue of the scene where Clark shows up on the
>porch outside Lois' apartment

12      Lois's apartment house - ground floor - porch. In the darkness, a
12
        figure. In the street light, two figures.

                                Lois
                        (spots dark figure)
                Clark!

                                Clark
                        (steps out of
                        darkness)
                Lois, I... Scardino!!!

                                Lois
                        (panicking, placating
                         placing herself strategically)
                Clark, I can explain!

                                Clark
                        (backs away)
                No, no, I was just... passing
                by on the way to... to war, you
                know, and I thought I'd...
                see how you're doing.

                                Lois
                It's not what you think!

                                Scardino
                        (at ease, confident in
                         a smarmy sort of way)
                Yes, it is. You know how it is
                you snooze, you lose. In your case,
                big time. I understand you were snoozing
                your way to New Krypton, leaving this
                wonderful woman behind and broken
                hearted. She needed a friend, someone
                who cares about her needs.

                                Lois
                        (teary, sweet)
                Oh, Dan...

                                Scardino
                        (takes her hands)
                Well, _I_ cares about you, my
                little tornado--

                                Clark
                _Your_ little tornado???

                                Scardino
                Well, I'm sure you'll find a little...
                        (creative pause)
                meteorite now, unless they kicked
                you off the flying saucer--

                                Clark
                        (losing it)
                I'll kick _you_--

                                Lois
                        (reasserting herself)
                Clark! Dan, stop teasing him. You
                have an unfair advantage. His...
                people don't have much in the way
                of a sense of humor.

        In the distance, explosions, sirens, breaking glass, people
    screaming, the horrid sounds of massive layoffs at WarnerBrothers,
        abc & dizney productions; i.e., clear evidence of general mayhem,
        unpleasantness and wrongdoing.

                                Clark
                        (looking in that
                         direction)
                Oh, ah, I gotta go...

                                Lois
                Oh, sure, leave me again,
                like the fate of the world
                rests on your shoulders!

                                Clark
                Well, it sorta does--

                                Lois
                And don't ask me for _my_ help
                or what _I_ think you should do.
                Don't ask the little woman unless
                she's in a _uniform_
                        (to Dan)
                He has a thing about uniforms.

                                Clark
                No, I don't--

        More explosions in distance, reminicent of crashing ratings,
        the agonizing sound of giant corporations melding and flinging
        off extraneous employees, and countless viewers streaming
        away toward cable channels.

                                Clark (cont)
                Look, I promise I'll be
                right back! And _you_
                        (to Scardino)
                _you_ keep your grimy hands off...
                        (sees he's too late
                         with this suggestion)
                Well, just don't do _any_thing
                until I get back!
                        (runs away, tugging at
                         his tie)

                                Scardino
                        (calling after
                         fleeing figure)
                And we'll be waiting for you.
                Upstairs.

                                Lois
                In front of the TV. Maybe.
                Or somewhere else like that.

                                Scardino
                Hey, Clark! Where should we send
                the wedding invitation?

                                Lois
                Oh, Dan, you're so romantic!

        Arm in arm they enter the apartment house.

                        End of Act One
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In a message dated 12/11/98 7:13:01 PM Central Standard Time, debby@SWCP.COM
writes:

<<            Scardino
                 Hey, Clark! Where should we send
                 the wedding invitation?

                                 Lois
                 Oh, Dan, you're so romantic!

         Arm in arm they enter the apartment house.

                         End of Act One >>

*sigh* FINALLY a Lois and SCARDINO romance, and I thought I was the only one
who believed Scardino was the man for Lois.  I mean what made Clark worth
waiting for anyway?  Scardino had all those... teeth!  ;)  Scardino was
there
looking out for Lois in Resurrection while Clark was laying on his back at
home playing air basketball!!  Humph!  Clark wasting ALL that time watching
kids clean graffiti off the wall while Dan the man brought Lois food and
wine.
Please, Debby, finish this Lois and Scardino love story, how long must I
wait???  Other readers might need barf bags, but not me!!   Please bring
back
his Hawaiian shirts too, I loved those .. what a man ;)

Zoomway@aol.com (tee hee ;)
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At 7:42 PM -0800 12/10/98, Sue Modolo wrote:
>Can somebody do me a favour who has the ep LORD OF THE FLYS on tape
>Can you email me the dialogue of the scene where Clark shows up on the
>porch outside Lois' apartment
>

Can you take large attachments?  I have the wav ...

Kathy

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At 08:44 PM 12/11/1998 -0500, you wrote:

>Please, Debby, finish this Lois and Scardino love story, how long must I
>wait???

>Zoomway@aol.com (tee hee ;)

Show me the money

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
going Hollywood
where getting paid means
one is writing Great Material
(doesn't it?)
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Furthermore...

At 08:44 PM 12/11/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>...I thought I was the only one
>who believed Scardino was the man for Lois.  I mean what made Clark worth
>waiting for anyway?  Scardino had all those... teeth!  ;)  Scardino was
there
>looking out for Lois in Resurrection while Clark was laying on his back at
>home playing air basketball!!  Humph!  Clark wasting ALL that time watching
>kids clean graffiti off the wall while Dan the man brought Lois food and
wine.
>Please, Debby, finish this Lois and Scardino love story, how long must I
>wait???  Other readers might need barf bags, but not me!!   Please bring
back
>his Hawaiian shirts too, I loved those .. what a man ;)
>
>Zoomway@aol.com (tee hee ;)

I agree that Dan dressed loudly when he relaxed and when his undercover
role might call for it; he might have looked good in a tight black body
suit, too, who knows? I further agree that he showed a great deal of
compassion toward Lois and apparently was willing to talk to her and to
change to meet her demands. It was nice to find such a potentially deep
character on TV; I'm sad they had to bring him in to show how shallow,
frightened and indecisive that Clark had become.

Debby
Debby@swcp.com
still considering Hollywood
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I concur with everyone on these two.  They are completely wonderful. The A
plot in ep1 was not the most exciting but that was good because this episode
was about love, and marriage and family and children. The A plot in ep2 with
Lex being behind both plots was great in that it brought everything
together.

But there is one thing I haven't seen pointed out so here it is:

Thank you for putting Perry White on the stand to speak up for his star
reporter.  I always felt bad that he was the dupe used to blacken Lois' name
in People vs. Lois Lane.  It was nice to see him in a court scene again but
this time actually testifying and telling it like it is. Congradulations -
Perry you got your Revenge, revenge, revenge in the right way.

One of the great things about LnC fanfiction is that we can correct things
we
didn't like in the series.  Way to go!!!

Charlotte

ps I just realized I used the word see in describing Perry on the stand.  I
know we picture what we read but is that really seeing it?  Maybe it has to
do
with being such a visually oriented species. Just my mind wandering. Ignore
it
please if it doesn't interest anyone.
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This is not a review but I also love court scenes as long as they come out
right.
And here is another plug for Debby' Stark's Dawning series.  Check out
Dawning9 for a great case involving a greedy mall owner suing Superman for
killing a monster who destroyed the mall - just the kind of stupid liabilty
suits which seem to be filed so often.

Trouble is (? this is trouble - what am I losing it here) to really
appreciate
this and everything else in the series, you have to start with Dawning1 and
read them all in order. Debby is right about that and its a daunting task
but
boy is it worth it.

Charlotte - who taking much longer than she thought to reread Dawning1-22.
I'm just rereading parts mutiple times as I go along and savoring the
experience-kinda like the show, everytime I read them I get something more
out
of them.

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In a message dated 12/12/98 7:50:04 AM Central Standard Time, debby@SWCP.COM
writes:

<< Show me the money >>

Show me the copyright <g>

>>>going Hollywood
where getting paid means
one is writing Great Material
(doesn't it?)<<<<

Well, getting paid for writing in Hollywood is about the same as getting
paid
for writing anywhere else, though Hollywood is very youth-crazed.  Few first
time novelists, for example, get to have their novel published word for word
as written.  That's assuming a novel has reached a point where a publishing
house is interested.  Reach that point, and you've already beaten the odds.
First time novelists often have to reach a compromise with the editor who
knows (or at least believes) that he or she has a better idea of what sells.
That's the non-secret secret of making money, creating something that sells.

There's a never-ending debate about whether fanfic is a very good training
ground for those who want to turn pro in their writing.  An article titled
Character Out of Character by Elissa Klotz, in part, addresses this issue:

***
".... an ongoing Homicide and Pretender "webisodes" on NBC's official site
(nbc.com) are an intriguing corporate response to the alternate-narrative
concept.

As sad as it is to report, they're also better written than the majority of
fan fiction. Passion is the motivating factor in this medium, not grammar,
spelling or scintillating banter. Here's Dawson Leery entering a jewelry
store
in a typical Dawson's Creek fan tale: "Looking around everything costed a
bundle of money, which he didn't have, looking through the glass casing he
spotted something that stood out a thin necklace with a heart hanging off
it."
At least the author didn't break the three most important rules of fan
fiction: spell-check, spell-check, and spell-check.

Most fanfic authors write for one reason: feedback. But there are those who,
dreaming of going legit, submit their work to publishers or to their
favorite
television shows. There efforts aren't well received. "we get tons of
terrible
stuff," says John Ordover, editor of Pocket Books' lucrative Star Trek
novelization series. "Fan writing is not the farm team for the legit novels,
and should be abandoned at once by anyone who wants to be a pro writer of
any
kind."

***
The author of the article does point out that Ordover probably missed the
point about fanfic in that most who participate are fans who simply have
found
a way to be part of a community of fans who use fanfic as one way of being
part of something they love, or rewriting the show or movie to suit their
own
taste.  Though even with the Star Trek franchise, there has been an effort
to
give "voice" to fanfic with a contest for fanfic writers, however, usually
writers who end up writing Star Trek novels have other published works to
their credit.  I have to admit I don't know of many fanfic writers who have
dreams of becoming pro writers, and so Ordover's advice to "abandon fanfic"
might be sound advice. That way writers finally have to write in a world
they
create rather than one that has been created for them.  Also, I'm sure, it
helps hone plotting skills since a lot of fanfic might qualify as character
vignettes rather than fully developed stories.

Me, I just love fanfic for its own sake.  It doesn't have to have a plot or
be
terribly deep.  It just has to entertain me and I'm happy ;)  I also have to
admit to loving "badfic".  Fanfic written so badly it's like Plan 9 From
Outer
Space.  Where else can you see the words "romantically tragical" teamed
together? <G>  I don't see fanfic as a pro writer training ground so much as
a
fan playground where we can have the characters we love doing and saying
things we'd love for them to say and do. Other than that, I don't ask a
whole
lot more from fanfic.

Zoomway@aol.com
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Jamee wrote:

> Aloha everybodeee!
>
> Well I *finally* finished these first two eps!  Not that they weren't
> enjoyable enough to finish in one sitting, of course they were!  Life
> just keeps me a little too busy these days, and everybody seems to
> *always* need mommy! The only privacy I get is the few minutes of peace
> in the bathroom! (did I really say that?!?! ;))  anyways, so I have to
> grab any moment I can to read a sentence or two!

LOL!  I'm a mother of two myself, Jamee, so I know what you mean.
 We've got strep throat at my house now ... right before Christmas,
wouldn't you know!  Just hope everyone gets well in time for the
holidays.

>
> And I cherished every sentence read! Barbra, Pam and Chris, and all who
> were involved--you did an excellent job!  You all are so incredibly
> talented!

Thank you! :-)

>
> First I was really moved at the scene in ep1 were Lois gets to talk to
> her mom and finally realizes how much her mother loves her. We all know
> she does, of course, but this was a scene I had hoped to see for
> awhile!  And what perfect timing, when Lois herself becomes a mother!
> She's finally able to look at things differently now that she is
> experiencing motherhood herself!  I'm glad she got to learn that life
> wasn't always so bad, and that she was very loved and taken care of by
> *both* parents.  Just goes to show what a little communication can do!
> This scene brought tears to my eyes!   and wow, what a cliff hanger!
> Almost glad I was behind in reading so I didn't have to suffer and wait
> like so many other FoLC's! (well I did have to wait, had the story in my
> hot little hand day and night just about but hardly had time to *really*
> get into it at the pace I desperately wanted to!!)

I have to agree that Barb and Pam did a wonderful job with this ep.
It was great to be able to work with them, and we had some fun
during our "plotting sessions," too. :-)

>
> Then ep2!!!  I actually really enjoy court scene movies!  They keep me
> on the edge of my seat!  And I could just truly envision all of this
> happening in my mind! All of the characters personalities and
> reactions!  I especially love how you capture Perry and Jimmy's
> personalities too!  Very well written! It was also neet how you gave the
> Judge a face we recognize!  Judge Judy!  She was a great choice! I could
> only see her character doing the "right thing".

Thank you. :-)  I'm glad you enjoyed it.  Credit goes to Alyssa for
picking out that photo of Judge Judy.  Kathy had the photo of Teri
and Emmy.  These eps are truly a collaborative effort. :-)

>Oh and all the tender
> moments of Clarks towards his daughter!  Especially when he put her to
> sleep levitating!  That was so cool!  I just love to read about his
> interactions and caring for his child! It's so sweet!  Also the family
> hug scene in the court building before the hearing!  That one got me
> misty eyed too!

Those were two of my favorite scenes, too. :-)  In fact, the scene with
Clark getting Laura to sleep was the first scene that I could clearly
envision for this ep--even before we'd nailed down the A-plot.  At
first I wasn't sure where I would put it in the story, but once I'd
started writing, it just fell into its proper place.  I love it when that
happens. <g>

>Wow!  Thankyou so much you guys!

You are very welcome.  Thank *you* for writing. :-)

>
> j-meS8-)].........who's so very, very happy after she finishes an
> episode until she realizes
>                     that she's one more closer to the end, then she
> wants to cry again!

:-)  A condition that all FoLCs can sympathize with, I'm sure.

--Chris

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At 04:45 PM 12/12/98 EST, The Zoomway wrote:
>"We get tons of terrible
>stuff," says John Ordover, editor of Pocket Books' lucrative Star Trek
>novelization series. "Fan writing is not the farm team for the legit
novels,
>and should be abandoned at once by anyone who wants to be a pro writer of
any
>kind."

I see what he's getting at, but he's eliminating perfectly legitimate
reasons for honing skills on fanfic.  I, for example, started on fanfic to
work on pacing and plotting.  L&C fanfic let me work on particular writing
skills and at the same time, continue something I loved.  Does that mean I
think I'm going to go straight from L&C fanfic to (for example) an L&C novel
like C.J. Cherryh?  Of course not.

>I have to admit I don't know of many fanfic writers who have
>dreams of becoming pro writers...

Maybe I'm the only one.

>... and so Ordover's advice to "abandon fanfic"
>might be sound advice. That way writers finally have to write in a world
they
>create rather than one that has been created for them.

Writing in that world of my own creation is much harder than the familiar
L&C world, and I have to *work* at the pacing and properly developed plots.
But my L&C stories at least taught me how to *do* it; now I recognize when
I've gotten off-track and started dragging my feet or wandering aimlessly
again.

In addition, people who want to become pro TV writers are not only
encouraged but *expected* to write several spec scripts based on existing or
former TV shows.  Obviously, they have to be written in script format and
meet the guidelines for the particular series, but that's the way you break
into the TV business:  by writing about a world and characters that have
already been created for you.

>... a lot of fanfic might qualify as character
>vignettes rather than fully developed stories.

True, except I usually don't write that way, and that's probably why I got a
reputation as a story-teller and writer of integrated A- and B-plots.

>Me, I just love fanfic for its own sake.

Me, too, once I started doing it.  It served its initial purpose for me, and
now I love it enough that I'll probably *always* write it

>I don't see fanfic as a pro writer training ground so much as a
>fan playground where we can have the characters we love doing and saying
>things we'd love for them to say and do.

As a reader, no, I don't see fanfic as a pro writer training ground.  I may
have used it that way, personally, but that doesn't mean that that's what I
think it's about.  I just love writing new stories about Lois and Clark, and
I love reading new ones, too.

Sheila
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At 12:34 PM -0500 12/12/98, Charlotte Fisler wrote:
>ps I just realized I used the word see in describing Perry on the stand.  I
>know we picture what we read but is that really seeing it?  Maybe it has to
do
>with being such a visually oriented species. Just my mind wandering. Ignore
it
>please if it doesn't interest anyone.

Don't apologize!  I know exactly what you mean. For me, *the* sign of a
great fanfic is when I can see the characters in my mind performing the
story as if it were on TV.

If I can hear Dean and Teri, then I'm sold. :)

Kathy

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At 11:32 PM -0500 12/12/98, Sheila Harper wrote:
>>I have to admit I don't know of many fanfic writers who have
>>dreams of becoming pro writers...
>
>Maybe I'm the only one.

I know of 3 other fanfic writing FoLCs who are either trying or already
have gotten published.  One recently had her first romance novel published
(or is in the process; but she's definitely signed a contract). The second
has finished her first full length romance novel and is aggressively trying
to break into the business. And the third has written a couple "young
adult" books and is shopping those around.

There may very well be others, but these are the three I know of personally
(meaning, there are/were on-line friends of mine.)

But, for the record, if anyone is a professional quality writer, Sheila is.
As I think I mentioned to her recently, whether she actually sells her
novel or not, whether she finds an agent or not, I am still honored to know
her and work with her because she 'takes my breath away' with every
endeavor.

Kathy :)

______________________
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kathyb@springnet1.com OR kathyb@fgi.net
KathyB on IRC
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1998 23:34:54 -1000
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Charlotte Fisler wrote:

> >.Thank you for putting Perry White on the stand to speak up for his
> star
> reporter.  I always felt bad that he was the dupe used to blacken
> Lois' name
> in People vs. Lois Lane.  It was nice to see him in a court scene
> again but
> this time actually testifying and telling it like it is.
> Congradulations -
> Perry you got your Revenge, revenge, revenge in the right way.

> One of the great things about LnC fanfiction is that we can correct
> things we
> didn't like in the series.  Way to go!!!<<

This is exactly what I was thinking while I read about Perry being on
the stand!  It's so awesome how fan fic can right all the wrongs!

> >>ps I just realized I used the word see in describing Perry on the
> stand.  I
> know we picture what we read but is that really seeing it?  Maybe it
> has to do
> with being such a visually oriented species. Just my mind wandering.
> Ignore it
> please if it doesn't interest anyone.<<

Oh yes, this does interest me!  I was just telling my husband
yesterday, how I feel so "satisfied" after reading a good fan fic like
the S6 eps 1&2.  I keep getting these little waves of happiness and I
*see* visions of the story like a memory pop into my head while I go
about my everyday duties, as if I really saw a new episode on T.V.! It
just seems so real, it's hard to believe I only read it!

j-meS8-)]!!!
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Hi there :)

(Charlotte wrote and then Jamee added to that:)

> > >>ps I just realized I used the word see in describing Perry on the
> > stand.  I
> > know we picture what we read but is that really seeing it?  Maybe it
> > has to do
> > with being such a visually oriented species. Just my mind wandering.
> > Ignore it
> > please if it doesn't interest anyone.<<
>
> Oh yes, this does interest me!  I was just telling my husband
> yesterday, how I feel so "satisfied" after reading a good fan fic like
> the S6 eps 1&2.  I keep getting these little waves of happiness and I
> *see* visions of the story like a memory pop into my head while I go
> about my everyday duties, as if I really saw a new episode on T.V.! It
> just seems so real, it's hard to believe I only read it!

It is funny. As time goes on and I am becoming a little less obsessive
about L&C <g> sometimes my mind blurs things I have seen on TV and things I
have read in fanfic. Sometimes I can clearly invisage a scene in my head
but when I think of where that came from I then realise I read it, it
wasn't on L&C. And little details -- stuff about the Kents, Lucy, etc..
that I thought were on the show (most I can even associate with an
episode!!) but then realising they are from fanfic too.. it is weird
(totally!!) how I can see some scenes so clearly although they weren't on
my TV. Then there is the fanfic that I totally adore that I have read over
and over and that whenever I recall it in my mind I get the scenes pictured
in my head: L&C and friends playing "touch" football from Camping with
Clark, Lois making pesto from Dawning (can't remember the # -- sorry!!),
L&C dancing to that beautiful slow dance in the bar of Lois' apartment in
Heaven's Prisoners and L&C landing in the mud in Great Shades of Elvis <g>.
I know there are others too <g>. Having read a few other fandoms out there
I feel so fortunate for the brilliant talent that we have with writers for
L&C. Of all the shows that I enjoy L&C is the only one that has the ability
to not only encompass the personality of the characters but also give us
great scenes and storylines. Thank you :)

trish . . . wondering why she is posting so much <G>!

trish@hotkey.net.au
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From:         "Conditions are dark. The forecast is deadly. Tea, anyone?"
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Subject:      Re: becoming a pro ;)

<< There's a never-ending debate about whether fanfic is a very good
training
ground for those who want to turn pro in their writing. >>

I think *any* writing is good training for someone who wants to turn pro. I
enjoy writing but doubt I'll ever make money from it. However, this past
semester I took an intro to fiction writing seminar with a published writer,
who'd worked as a freelance journalist, had a movie made from one of his
pieces, and who'd also written novels and non-fiction. On our last day of
class
he had three pieces of advice for anyone who wanted to continue in writing
(and
many in the class were English majors who *did* want to turn pro). They
were:
read (so you know what sells), live (so you can find your own "story"), and
WRITE.

<< Here's Dawson Leery entering a jewelry store in a typical Dawson's Creek
fan
tale: "Looking around everything costed a bundle of money, which he didn't
have, looking through the glass casing he spotted something that stood out a
thin necklace with a heart hanging off it." >>

Was it just me or did anyone else think that Lois and Clark fanfic is, on
the
whole, better writtent than this Dawson Creek example? I'm sure the person
who
chose this passage didn't look for the best Dawson Creek fanfic has to offer
and I know there's some not-so-good L&C fanfic out there, too, but this
piece
isn't a great ambassador for the quality of writing in fanficdom.

<< That way writers finally have to write in a world they create rather than
one that has been created for them.  Also, I'm sure, it helps hone plotting
skills since a lot of fanfic might qualify as character vignettes rather
than
fully developed stories. >>

My opinion on this is that you have to start somewhere. I've been writing
for
as long as I could remember, but I seldom finished stories before I started
writing fanfic. I'd get very into planning the story in my head and thinking
out the characters and their pasts, etc, that I'd get bored with them before
the end of the story. Writing fanfic (with pre-existing characters) has
helped
me to focus on the plot instead of the characters. And I've slowly moved
away
>from pre-existing characters, taking periphery L&C characters and giving
them a
past, or creating children for L&C to give them a future. I know other
fanfic
writers who enjoy writing fanfic but also use their fanfic for similar
purposes- working out fiction-writing problems. However, I can also see that
someone whose writing is pure WAFFs might have a difficult time selling any
similar writing they submit to publishers, unless, perhaps, they write
romance
novels. But even though I haven't read any of those, I'd guess they probably
have A Plots too.

In fact, I used an excerpt from the fanfic I'm currently working on to get
into
the fiction writing class I mentioned above. I'm a molecular biology major
at a
school known for its English department, and this excerpt got me into the
(competitive) class. Like taking this class, writing fanfic has helped me to
be
a better writer.

-Christy
 kubitc@kenyon.edu
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Subject:      Bad fanfic writing
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> << Here's Dawson Leery entering a jewelry store in a typical Dawson's
> Creek fan tale: "Looking around everything costed a bundle of money,
> which he didn't have, looking through the glass casing he spotted
> something that stood out a thin necklace with a heart hanging off it." >>
>
> Was it just me or did anyone else think that Lois and Clark fanfic is, on
the
> whole, better writtent than this Dawson Creek example? I'm sure the person
who
> chose this passage didn't look for the best Dawson Creek fanfic has to
offer
> and I know there's some not-so-good L&C fanfic out there, too, but this
piece
> isn't a great ambassador for the quality of writing in fanficdom.

If there's any L&C writing out there as bad as this, I hope I can safely say
it is NOT on the archive!  Our central fanfic archive has editors, and no
self-respecting editor would let something like the above bit pass.  And if
they did, I would hope Kathy would fire them instantly! :)

-Emily (only semi-self-respecting, but *very* nitpicky about grammar, which
works almost as well <g>)
--
Emily Crawford/Warbler on IRC              ccsupec@helen.oit.gatech.edu

"And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover, To entertain these fair
well-spoken days, I am determined to prove a villain And hate the idle
pleasures of these days." -- Richard III
(OK, so I've been watching "The Phoenix")
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At 02:51 PM 13/12/98 -0500, Emily Angerer Crawford wrote:

<Snip Bad Dawson's Creek Fanfic>

>If there's any L&C writing out there as bad as this, I hope I can safely
say
>it is NOT on the archive!  Our central fanfic archive has editors, and no
>self-respecting editor would let something like the above bit pass.  And if
>they did, I would hope Kathy would fire them instantly! :)

Emily's one of our incredibly talented, incredibly *underpaid* General
Editors on the Fanfiction Archive Staff<g> .. and her point is a valid one.
We FoLCs have a lot to be proud of among our authors and editors alike. ;)

But In defense of the indefensible <g> -- I'm certain Kathy will respond to
this as well -- I'd have to say (as well) that our General Editors at the
Archive won't censor or change an author's writing style (unless
specifically asked to by the author), even if they don't like an
individual's writing, personally.  We ask them not to, and for the most
part, they wouldn't do it anyway. (Though their teeth may hurt in the line
of duty that way. <g>)

When we decided to implement an editorial staff for the archive, I remember
we discussed several alternatives.   Out of that came "General Editors"
which we're all familiar with, as well as FoLCs whom we used to call "Story
Editors" who were there for Authors who wanted intensive editing of their
story, perhaps even reworking.  We found, however, that it just wasn't
working out (for various reasons I won't go into here).  And the General
Editors on staff are usually very willing to work with individual authors
in any event, (again) if they're asked to specifically by the author.

Otherwise, GE's will look at a story and probably make suggestions, and
they'll certainly fix grammatical errors, but if there are instances when a
piece is written so that it's difficult (or in some cases nearly
impossible) to follow the entire way through (and there have been instances
of that in the past, though we never take out a banner when there are..
most often if the fan loves the show enough to write about it, we want them
to feel as fulfilled by the experience as any other writer, regardless of
their writing 'expertise') ... so when a story like that does cross an
editor's desk ... policy is (generally) to have it sent back, kindly
*suggesting* to the author that it be reworked a little bit (with
assistance if they wish) before posting it to the archive or attempting to
edit it for grammatical errors.  It doesn't happen often, but it does
happen. (I'm sure Kathy can vouch for that, and Rhen before her :)

At that point, if the author steadfastly refuses, or doesn't want to tamper
with the story's original design at all, and providing there's nothing
wrong with the story in terms of language abuse and/or content violations
(anything that isn't G or PG rated), then the story will be posted as-is,
with the author's name next to it.

What it comes down to is, if an author is happy with their work, our
("Prime Directive" if you'll pardon the bad Star Trek pun ;P) is 'non
interference'.  Writing ability varies widely, even with authors of Lois &
Clark fiction, though (in my PERSONAL opinion), I think a great many FoLCs
make pretty incredible authors!

In terms of Dawson's Creek, the fan base is largely a youthful one.  And
while there are many really tremendous young authors out there, they tend
to fall into the minority.  A writer's style often matures right along side
of their own personality<g>  IMHO, what we were looking at in the example
Emily provided, was a glimpse of just that kind of 'youthful' writing
style. The reason it may appear to be the 'norm' in Dawson's Creek fanfic,
is probably very much rooted in the demographics of the overall Internet
fan-base for that show. (Again, IMHO, of course. ;)

I'm sure our esteemed EIC, Ms. Brown will have more to say on the matter...
after recess, of course. <eg>

-Demi-
I get the swing!  Stamped it.. no erasies! <eg>

___________________________________________
Demi/Demona
Archive Coordinator
demona@shaw.wave.ca or demi22@aol.com
http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/
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Hi FoLCS,

Sorry to post this to both lists, but this is the only way I can get
in touch with the majority of the people who might have emailed me in
the last 24 hours.

My ISP's (MCS) mailserver was down for better than 12 hours last night
and early this morning; any emails sent to me during that time were
bounced by the ISP.  If you sent me an email in the last 24 hours,
would you please resend it?

Thanks very much, and sorry for the inconvenience!

Pat

peabody@mcs.com
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1998 16:13:56 -0800
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From:         Bev Clark/Steve Gallacci <bevnsag@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: becoming a pro ;)
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I don't know which L&C fan writers want to become professional fiction
writers, but way back in the dark (aka pre-computer) days when I was
editing a Star Wars fanzine and involved in Star Trek fandom, I knew a
lot of fan fiction writers who wanted to become pros. And some of them
made it.

For encouragement to those L&C fan writers with that goal, here are some
professional writers who began by writing fan fiction (and in some cases,
made their first professional sale by adapting a Star Wars or Star Trek
story into an original universe): Melanie Rawn, Diane Duane (well,
simultaneously with her first pro sales), Susan Matthews, Eluki bes
Shahar, Debra Doyle & Jim Macdonald, Sherwood Smith. Those are just the
ones that immediately come to mind.

Bev
bevnsag@netcom.com
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Bev wrote:

>I don't know which L&C fan writers want to become professional
fiction
>writers, but way back in the dark (aka pre-computer) days when I was
>editing a Star Wars fanzine and involved in Star Trek fandom, I knew
a
>lot of fan fiction writers who wanted to become pros. And some of
them
>made it.

I was very pleased to see the L:&C fanfic archive (which I usually
refer to as "our archive") chosen as one of the 7 best in EW article
on fanfiction.  And while I found the accompanying article
interesting, I didn't always agree with it.

I think Bev's take on fanfic as a possible stepping-stone to
professional writing is probably much more on target than the EW
author's was.  The EW author appeared to have used one opinion, from
one publisher, as authority for the statement that people who wanted
to write professionally should abandon fanfic.  A single opinion isn't
always the best way to do research, even if it is the quickest.
(Can't you just hear season-one Lois saying that to season-one Clark?
<g>)

Back in the dark ages when I was in high school and college, every
writing teacher I ever had stressed the need to write *every day* if
one had aspirations of becoming a professional writer.  Fanfic allows
and encourages that daily writing, and gives the added bonus of
audience feedback.   I might never become a professional writer, but
the feedback I've gotten back on the few fanfic pieces I've written
has been invaluable.  I not only know what people enjoy reading, I
have a *very* good idea of what they don't want to read!

Just recently, there was an article in the tv section of our local
newspaper mentioning that an episode of "Walker, Texas Ranger" had
been written by a group of the show's internet fans.  I believe I
heard something similar about an episode of "X-files"  Obviously, the
chances of a fanfic episode becoming a real episode aren't high, but
it apparently does occasionally happen.

What are the chances of  a fanfic author becoming a professional
author?   I think it's every bit as likely as that of actors in an
amateur theatricals becoming professional actors.  In either
discipline, it would seem that practice, and feedback from your peers
and your audience, would be valuable learning experiences.

Pat

peabody@mcs.com
pattijean@aol.com
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1998 20:35:07 EST
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In a message dated 12/12/98 9:46:15 PM !!!First Boot!!!, Zoomway@AOL.COM
writes:

<<  don't see fanfic as a pro writer training ground so much as a
 fan playground where we can have the characters we love doing and saying
 things we'd love for them to say and do. Other than that, I don't ask a
whole
 lot more from fanfic. >>

Amen.!!!

And if anyone cares for my opinion, I can think of many writers of LnC
fanfiction who are just plain better writers than many writers of published
fiction.

Charlotte - who has been reading both fiction and non-fiction of various
genre
for enough years to know what she likes.
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In a message dated 12/12/98 1:47:46 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Zoomway@AOL.COM
writes:

<< In a message dated 12/11/98 7:13:01 PM Central Standard Time,
debby@SWCP.COM
 writes:

 <<            Scardino
                  Hey, Clark! Where should we send
                  the wedding invitation?

                                  Lois
                  Oh, Dan, you're so romantic!

          Arm in arm they enter the apartment house.

                          End of Act One >>

 *sigh* FINALLY a Lois and SCARDINO romance, a >>

Go ahead try it Debby.  Believe me, Dan won't be around long enough to enjoy
a
meal with Lois much less have a relationship.

I know guys who know guys.

Charlotte who's father was Sicilian and we all know what that means.
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don't forget Jean Lorrah.....
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At 6:33 PM -0500 12/13/98, demona wrote:

>What it comes down to is, if an author is happy with their work, our
>("Prime Directive" if you'll pardon the bad Star Trek pun ;P) is 'non
>interference'.  Writing ability varies widely, even with authors of Lois &
>Clark fiction, though (in my PERSONAL opinion), I think a great many FoLCs
>make pretty incredible authors!

>
>I'm sure our esteemed EIC, Ms. Brown will have more to say on the matter...
>after recess, of course. <eg>

Actually, I was going to, but you said it so well. :)

Kathy (yes, "even if your teeth hurt" is in the editing procedures I send
to GEs. <g>)

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Ann H. wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> Has anyone had a problem downloading stories from the archive using AOL
4.0
> (Mac)?
>
> I have no problems with any story downloaded with AOL 3.0 (Mac). I
download
> the story with AOL 3.0. I use TEX-Edit Plus to normalize the returns and
fix
> the line length which helps reduce the number of pages.
>
> When I open stories downloaded with AOL 4.0 (Mac) they are a mess.  There
is
> no paragraphing. I get one long paragraph without any spacing or carriage
> returns. I noticed a pattern.
>
> Any story uploaded after 7/5/98 to the present comes out as one paragraph.
> The one story uploaded on 7/5/98 (holane.txt) is ok.
> The stories uploaded on 6/28/98 are mixed.  Some come out ok and some
don't.
> Any story that was uploaded on 6/21/98 or earlier comes out ok.
>
> I just downloaded Only You:  Recall from Margaret Brignell's web site.
[Great
> story Margaret. I hate "...to be continued." How could you? ;-) ] There
was no
> problem.  Apparently AOL 4.0 (Mac) likes Margaret's text files.  :-)
>
> Anyone have any ideas? I'm wondering if there was some kind of change made
in
> the way files were uploaded to the archive or some difference between
earlier
> and later uploads. Some difference that AOL 4.0 (Mac) doesn't like. :-(
>
> AOL has not been able to help. They tell me they have not encountered any
such
> problems downloading text files with AOL 4.0 (Mac). Unfortunately, this is
> just one problem among many I have had with AOL 4.0.
>
> Thank you for any advice that you might offer.
>
> Ann
> Who is going to scream if she sees <We hope you enjoy your new software.
...
> Thanks and enjoy AOL 4.0.> one more time at the end of another useless
help
> message from AOL 4.0.
I don't have Mac but I still get some of those 1 paragaph papers.  What
I do is go Control Alt Home and then Control Shift Alt End (This works
when Control A doesn't) then control C for copy.  Next I open Word and
Copy with Contrl V into the page and it comes out with paragraphs.
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Pat Peabody said:
>> I think Bev's take on fanfic as a possible stepping-stone to
professional writing is probably much more on target than the EW
author's was.  <<

Agreed, and I'd also add that you have to consider the source.  The guy
who said to abandon fanfic was the editor for Pocket Books, the guys who
publish those Trek novels.  Now, I don't read many of them, but the
impression I've got is that they're heavily A-plot oriented.  So someone
who loves writing Parris/Torres sex scenes is *not* developing the right
skills -- *for that particular market*.  If, however, that author wants t=
o
go into the romance genre, then that sort of fanfic might very well be
valuable experience (although to answer someone else's comment, yes,
romances need some sort of A-plot as well).  You have to know your target=

audience, and write with them in mind.

I know that I have learned a *lot* about writing in the past few
years, through some great editors and useful critiques.  I never used to =
be
aware of POV or the passive voice (two of my particular problems <g>).  A=
nd
I used to be scared to death to attempt an A-plot; when we were planning
S6, I realized that an A-plot was all I had <g> so we ended up combining =
my
A-plot with Barb's B-plot, basically.

I do want to turn pro at some point, and to get there I know I've got mor=
e
to learn, which I'll get from other sources besides fanfic.  But this has=

been a very valuable experience for me (the positive feedback is a
tremendous confidence booster), besides being a heck of a lot of fun.

And of course fanfic is also a great community-building experience
(especially writing on the round robins) and even if I never do go pro,
I'll still have very warm memories of my days in FOLCdom <g>

PJ

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Ok, I'm not sure how many other people really care, but I was listening
to Mozart's Le Nozze de Figaro, an opera for those of you who don't
know.  Well, I remembered watching an episode of Lois and Clark, fourth
season, where, forgive my lovely way of putting it, that shadow guy, or
whoever it was, was sitting in front of his fireplace in the sewer, or
wherever it was, in that one episode, either shadow of a doubt, the one
before it, or the one after it.  Does anyone know what opera he was
listening to?  I loved whatever it was he was listening to.

Thanks,

Julie

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Thanks to everyone who suggested stories for this month's feature on the
L&C Fanfic Archive.  It's the Twelve Days of Christmas -- L&C Style!

We're putting a new Christmas fanfic under our "tree" every day from now
until Christmas.  Get yourself in the holiday spirit by reading (or
rereading) these great holiday-themed stories.

http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/

Enjoy and Happy Holidays to you!

Kathy

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