From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG9810D" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:10:21 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: A Vukovic Subject: Re: Fests (was re FoLC Love ;) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Besides that, there are often local fests going on, and those are >wonderful. In the Great Lakes area (MI, OH, IN, IL, WI), we had been >getting together about once a year until last year, when busy schedules >kept us apart this year. I hosted one in MI, Rich hosted one in IN, and >Keina/Biz/Kat hosted a few in OH. > >I have heard of people in other states/regions getting together also. All >it takes is for one person or a group of people to step up and offer to Just to add to the list here, the FFOz was held in Sydney in Jan 96, partially in my backyard, assisted by our annual Australia Day celebrations for activities - a couple of the out of towners/foreigners apprecitated these. There was also another the following Sept in Brissie, and a impormptu mini-fest the following Jan in Melbourne. Us Aussie FOLC seem to get around (or is it just me?). 2 LAFFs, BrisFest, Melbourne, and the small but fun Seattle gathering I went to. Meeting other FoLC is so much fun, even if you do have to do the organising yourself. FFOz was not all my doing, I took over from Leanne after she embarked on the project. Considering the holiday weekend with 18 people, including 5 people who flew in, interstate and overseas, I reackon it came off pretty well. It is now a FoLC tradition in Sydney to come as close as possible to being tossed out of restaurants we attend. That gathering of 18 came AWFULLY close - the rabble of other customers was to our advantage... Anyway, all I am saying is "It can be done by mear mortals". This was the first 'event' of any scale I had ever had any hand in, and I think it went reasonably well. Once you have willing participants, the motivation is there to get the rest done. Photos of the fest I have been to are on my web page (below). _________________________________________________________________________ Thank you kindly, Adrienne VUKOVIC aev@cia.com.au http://www.cia.com.au/aev _________________________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 18:51:58 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jeanne Pare Subject: Re: Qn about Superman comics Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Jacqueline wrote: >>I lost my comic collection when my Mother would make me go down and >>trade them in at the 2 for 1 store. I had the very first Supergirl! I had a complete collection of all Superman/Batman related comics from the mid fifties on to about 1962. I bought sporactically into the 70's. After I graduated from college and moved out of my parents' home to get married I threw away my collection (How could I have been so stupid!!). I know I had the first Lois Lane, the first Jimmy Olsen, and the first Batman/Superman combination. I think I had the first Supergirl. I also think there was a Kryto comic for awhile, and I probably had that first one. I believe I also had the first Superboy or at least I had one of the first. I guess my collection started about 1953. I bought every single one in print as far as I know. In those days the comics were 10 cents each and they had three stories in each one. I remember I used to be disappopinted when one of the stories was non-Superman related like one character who was part fish/part human. My favorite was Superboy in the early days because I was a kid and I thought he was cute. I remember especially liking the Elsewhere stories. By the time the Lois Lane came out I must have been in puberty or close to it because I remember really liking that series. As a child I used to call the number for the local movie theater in town and beg them to make a Superman movie. How naive, but I was only about 7, I guess. Although I never read a comic after I got into my mid-twenties, I naturally saw all the Superman movies. I didn't give any thought to Superman again until I read that they were planning Lois and Clark. That seemed perfect to me because I always felt Clark was more interesting than Superman. I knew before the show began that this was a Must Video Tape show. The rest is history and now I'm a fan for life. Jeanne ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:12:14 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin J Vance Subject: Combo Post: Intro and Fanfic submission procedure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone! 1. First of all, I would like to introduce myself, for those of you who aren't on the other LOISCLA list, or else just never heard me introduce myself before. My name is Erin, I'm 24 years old and am a Speech-Language pathologist working in a school (I graduated with my master's degree in May). I have also been a writer and fiction lover my entire life, as well as a Superman fan for at least as long:). As an undergrad, I studied both Speech and English lit., and one of the many lasting remnants from my childhood is the first story I ever wrote, at age 7 (about investigation, no less ). I have been a proud member of the LOISCLA list for a year now, and just attended NEFF '98 two weeks ago, but only recently joined this fanfic list. So, I thought I would introduce myself, and, for those of you who don't know me, you will find that I am often highly (over)analytical and am usually too opinionated to lurk for long . 2. Now, in reference to fanfic, I was wondering if someone could please tell me what the proper steps are, to submit fanfic- to the archive, I suppose. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me:) Take care, all! Erin V. (CKLane on IRC) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Oct 1998 19:47:26 -1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WILLIAMS wrote: > >>At the end of a Wonder Woman novel this Sunday I found an add and > orderig slip for a book ($12 + $3 shipping) called Lois and Clark > written by C. J. Cherryh.<< >snip< > >> I just wanted everyone to know that the book was out there with an > > enjoyable story. Does anyone know of any other L&C good books I may > have missed?<< Is this the novel that this list was discussing a few months ago? A lot of people said they didn't rally like it, cuz Lois and Clark never got together until the end. I had heard a lot of negative about it so I never bothered to get it since there is sooo many wonderful fanfics available to me and only limited time. If this is a different one, I may be interested in picking it up somewhere. j-me > > > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 00:54:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Fanfic submission procedure In-Reply-To: <006001bdff04$7c220bc0$e3c49cd1@z3q5m1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:12 AM -0400 10/24/98, Erin J Vance wrote: >2. Now, in reference to fanfic, I was wondering if someone could please >tell me what the proper steps are, to submit fanfic- to the archive, I >suppose. Thanks in advance for any help you can give me:) Well, let's see ... Most importantly, save your file as "text only". Don't send me a word file, word perfect, etc. The formatting all gets lost when you transfer it to me, and I end up having to clean up a lot of messed up text. Submit all stories to . You may submit via attachment, or within the email itself. I can take large emails, so feel free to cut and paste the whole story into the email if yours can do that. If it can't, you may break the story into parts and email it in sections. Just be sure to label each email with the name of the story and the part number ("Title, 1/3", "Title, 2/3" etc) I'll assign the story to a General Editor who will look it over for typos, assign a rating, write the story blurb, etc. That person will be in contact with you when they get it. I think that covers it ... anything I missed? Oh, yeah, spellcheck , and try to have someone else look it over first for typos/problems unless you are pretty confident about your writing. Editors always catch typos, no matter how many times you look at it yourself. Start a new paragraph for each new speaker, and preferably, double space between paragraphs (though indents work fine too, but I find double spacing easier to read). OK, now did I miss anything? Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive kathyb@fgi.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 08:53:40 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Fanfic submission procedure Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-24 01:53:49 EDT, kathyb@FGI.NET writes: << OK, now did I miss anything? >> Um, only that she can also (after spellchecking, please) send the story in e- mail ONLY (and shorter segments --labelled-- as some programs can't take really long e-mail) to this list as well. --Laurie (who like fanfic to come directly to her mailbox ) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 07:24:12 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: julie slisz Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel Content-Type: text/plain >WILLIAMS wrote: > >> >>At the end of a Wonder Woman novel this Sunday I found an add and >> orderig slip for a book ($12 + $3 shipping) called Lois and Clark >> written by C. J. Cherryh.<< > >>snip< > >> >> I just wanted everyone to know that the book was out there with an >> >> enjoyable story. Does anyone know of any other L&C good books I may >> have missed?<< > >Is this the novel that this list was discussing a few months ago? A lot >of people said they didn't rally like it, cuz Lois and Clark never got >together until the end. I had heard a lot of negative about it so I >never bothered to get it since there is sooo many wonderful fanfics >available to me and only limited time. If this is a different one, I >may be interested in picking it up somewhere. > >j-me I read this novel, and it was one of the best books I have ever read, and I have read it atleast 3 times now (but I do wake up groggy in the morning thinking about Lois and Clark, is it possible i sleep read? :). They are together in the book, its just that circumstances keep them >from being with one another, if that makes any sense. I'm trying very hard not to give away most of the book here, it falls into the story line of the show sometime between the Noah's ark episode(forgive me, I can't remember its name) and the first marriage(INPY). The book is very worth reading, and I highly recomend reading it to any L&C fan. Julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 11:29:08 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Maggie Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ***warning: ramble mode in Full Gear today. Babbling Ahead, Proceed with Caution*** Just can't keep my mouth shut about the book. Let me apologize in advance to anyone who may disagree with me, this is only my little opinion, and I do respect others who may differ from mine, but Oh! just have to say this. Fanfiction is better. There I said it. Dimensions of Loving, Meet Me in Kansas City, Full Circle. Better, better, and better. I mention these because they are about Novel-length. (Actually, Full Circle may not have been *that* long, but it was *that* good!) Anything by the Writers in the Showcase, Kerth Nominees/Winners. B-e-t-t-e-r-! You get the idea..... Our writers capture something the book never really grasps, which is the Spirit of the show. The quirkiness, the interplay between Lois & Clark, the whole _feeling_ of the characters. For example, if you read Sheila Harper's Myxptuplick episodes, and then read the novel you will see very clearly what I mean about the _feeling_ of the show. I just happened to be re-visiting Paradise Lost (also from TUFS) this morning, and you can definitely see it there too. I would mention more, but I'm sure you'd rather read an actual fanfic, than my current thesis project: How many stories can you read and still function in society--go to work, remember to eat, wash behind your ears, and occasionally make your bed-- (The answer in case you are wondering is Many, many stories. Of course, your friends wonder why you don't return their calls, your boss wonders exactly what is it you do at lunch time that you are in such a good mood when you return, and your Mother may baptize your computer with name, like say Lola, for example, since you spend soooo much time with her--the computer that is. Oh! and a side effect of all this thesis research is most certainly an increased tendency to ramble at any given moment. Without warning. And then just as suddenly--skip back to the subject at hand!) <> <> Although fanfiction comes in many shapes, sizes and styles, I really think that there is something about the fact that the authors love the characters that they are writing for that makes the stories unique. This book is (imo) not bad. Fanfiction is simply better. I actually think it is very worthwhile reading, if only to be able to see very clearly the caliber of the Authors whose work we are so lucky to have among us. Maggie who actually did like the book, the thing is she *loves* fan fiction! maggie13@bellsouth.net (aka supermags on IRC) Clark: Life is short, order what you want. Lois: Life is long, Clark, and you are what you eat. Most of us anyway. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:44:40 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Fanfic submission procedure In-Reply-To: <4e0a5d10.3631cdd4@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 8:53 AM -0400 10/24/98, No Name Available wrote: >--Laurie (who like fanfic to come directly to her mailbox ) Laurie, now don't tell me you are one of those FoLCs who refuse to visit the Archive ... ;) Kathy (it's a nice archive! Really! It is! Would I lie?? ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@fgi.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 10:57:00 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel In-Reply-To: <19981024142413.12516.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:24 AM -0700 10/24/98, julie slisz wrote: >>WILLIAMS wrote: >>I had heard a lot of negative about it so I >>never bothered to get it >I read this novel, and it was one of the best books I have ever read, >The book is very worth reading, and I highly recomend >reading it to any L&C fan. I have to agree with Julie here. I know a lot of people didn't enjoy the book, but there were an equal if not greater number who did. I was in the latter category. Yes, the book is not 100% L&C, but neither is it the comics version. It's honestly kind of a combination of the two. But I would say that L&C is the dominant version. L&C are together and engaged, Lex Luthor is in jail -- but Lois has her comics cat. There are some other characterizations that reminded me more of the comics, like Clark trying to stay out from in front of the camera so no one recognizes him as Supes (L&C's Clark didn't seem to have that concern with all the tabloid coverage of he and Lois), but there was more L&C than not. Now, are there fanfics out there that are just as good (better) and FREE? Yes, most certainly. But this is no slouch of a story. There is a lot of a-plot, but it's interesting a-plot, and both Lois and Clark/Superman have their own plots going. The description of Superman's thought process as he faces difficult rescues were quite interesting to me, and Lois definitely is a strong woman who becomes a hero in her own right. Both plots kept my interest. Now, if you only enjoy stories that focus solely on the romance, this one probably isn't for you. But the story is satisfying if you like a mix of both romance and action. Lois and Clark are together and in love, and there are some nice kisses and some intense, emotional dialogue that I found satisfying. Think of it as a yearning to be together when circumstances keep them apart, and they need to work to steal tender moments when they can. So, while I haven't re-read the book more than once (I rarely re-read fanfic, either, though, except for a very few stories), I also recommend it. Kathy (proof that I liked it -- it's been well over a year since I read the story and still remember this much about it. :)) ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@fgi.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 14:04:49 -1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathy Brown wrote: > >>Yes, the book is not 100% L&C, but neither is it the > comics version.<< And I have read some fanfics that I personally have felt gave both L&C, or one or the other, certain personality traits that I thought didn't match their characters on the show, or had them do something that I thought they wouldn't do. But this is okay, because it's just enjoyable to see them in all different situations and possibly even out of character. Someone else mentioned this before, but it's like the writer gets to play God and have them do whatever the writer chooses. And I've still really enjoyed every fanfic I've ever read. > >>It's honestly kind of a combination of the two. But I > would say that L&C is the dominant version.<< This would be enjoyable to me, because when I watch the begining L&C episodes I just love how it seemed to involve more of the "Comic Book Look". I never read the comic books and I'm not sure exactly what it was about it besides Lois' "attitude" and the fun comments they fit in like "Is it a bird, a plane? no it's just some man in tights!" (forgive me all you L&C trivia buffs, I probably quoted that way wrong! ) But on the other hand as the show got more modern and focused on their romance, I loved that too! > >>Now, if you only enjoy stories that focus solely on the romance, > this one > probably isn't for you. But the story is satisfying if you like a mix > of > both romance and action. Lois and Clark are together and in love, and > > there are some nice kisses and some intense, emotional dialogue that I > > found satisfying.<< The romance is definitly needed for my taste, but I need the Superman action too! And I think I appreciate the kisses more when it is accompanied by emotional dialogue and real life situations. Well, thanx for the thoughts on this novel again, I'm glad I asked since I'd only heard negative about it before. I think for me it's worth a trip to the book store. And oh by the way, I deleted the info, so what is it called and who is it by again?! (DUH jamee!) thanx ! j-me > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 19:12:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:04 PM 10/24/98 -1000, Jamee Jones wrote: > And oh by the way, I deleted the info, so what >is it called and who is it by again?! (DUH jamee!) Jamee, the book is Lois & Clark: A Superman Novel, by C.J. Cherryh, and like Kathy, I enjoyed the look into the way Clark perceives things. In my stories, I try to give my readers some insight into what it's like for him to be a superhero--how he does things, how he helps when just speed and strength aren't enough--but Cherryh puts my efforts to shame. This is the one story I ever read that left me utterly convinced that Clark is in fact an alien and a darn brilliant one at that. And Lois is his equal in every way that matters. The book doesn't capture the flavor of L&C, but it does some other things very well, and I'm glad I read it. In fact, I re-read the Superman sections before I wrote the firestorm scenes for the TUFS finale, Full Circle: A New Day. Cherryh makes me stop and think about how Clark's powers really work and how he has to analyze rescues that are more complicated than a simple catch or a puff of super-breath, and I like that. But, then, I like including Superman action scenes in with my romantic or emotional scenes, too :) Sheila sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 21:22:25 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-24 20:13:07 EDT, sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes: << Jamee, the book is Lois & Clark: A Superman Novel, by C.J. Cherryh, and like Kathy, I enjoyed the look into the way Clark perceives things. In my stories, I try to give my readers some insight into what it's like for him to be a superhero--how he does things, how he helps when just speed and strength aren't enough--but Cherryh puts my efforts to shame. >> I'm not surprised, Sheila, that you liked this part. (I did too, btw.) The part you wrote in the TUFS season finale was every bit as good and I'm very much looking forward to your S6 eps. :) --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 18:37:30 -1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit No Name Available wrote: > >>In a message dated 98-10-24 20:13:07 EDT, sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US > writes: > I'm not surprised, Sheila, that you liked this part. (I did too, btw.) > The > part you wrote in the TUFS season finale was every bit as good and I'm > very > much looking forward to your S6 eps. :)<< I too, definitely enjoyed the Superman action scenes Sheila wrote in that TUFS finale! It gets boring when things are too easy for him. (Sorry Clark, you've got to be so tired by now, none of us will let you rest!) The more challenging the more interesting. And that is what I have always enjoyed about Lois and Clark is how so many times it isn't just brut strength that saves them from their situation. It's using all the experience they must of gained from being investigative reporters and from Clark traveling and learning about the world. Forgive me for not researching this before I post, but in either S5 or TUFS, there was a great episode written about MYYSPTLK (SP?) where he split Clark in to two people: Clark and Superman. It's been a while since I've read this one, but didn't Clark without the powers have to use his smarts and Superman without that ability had the strength but didn't really "know" what to do with it? I appreciated how the author brought that aspect out. I really really loved that story! (I felt so sorry for poor superman) As a matter of fact I'd like to read it again and I never read the same book over twice! j-me > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 23:47:00 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Mxysplit and All Mxyed Up (was Re: Lois and Clark the Novel) In-Reply-To: <3632AB0A.5E4395D@maui.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 6:37 PM -1000 10/24/98, Jamee Jones wrote: > Forgive me for >not researching this before I post, but in either S5 or TUFS, there was >a great episode written about MYYSPTLK (SP?) where he split Clark in to >two people: Clark and Superman. It's been a while since I've read this >one, but didn't Clark without the powers have to use his smarts and >Superman without that ability had the strength but didn't really "know" >what to do with it? I appreciated how the author brought that aspect >out. I really really loved that story! (I felt so sorry for poor >superman) As a matter of fact I'd like to read it again and I never read >the same book over twice! It was for TUFS, and the author is the fabulous Sheila Harper. The story is on the Archive, so look under TUFS or under her name. She's written several top notch stories and you won't go wrong with any of them. Kathy :) ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@fgi.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:03:49 -1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: Mxysplit and All Mxyed Up (was Re: Lois and Clark the Novel) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathy Brown wrote: > >>It was for TUFS, and the author is the fabulous Sheila Harper. The > story > is on the Archive, so look under TUFS or under her name. She's > written > several top notch stories and you won't go wrong with any of them.<< Well, what a coincidence, that one is by Sheila Harper too! I guess I really enjoy your writing Sheila! I'll have to check the archives for more of your work! j-me:) > > > _ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:24:45 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:37 PM 10/24/98 -1000, you wrote: >Forgive me for >not researching this before I post, but in either S5 or TUFS, there was >a great episode written about MYYSPTLK (SP?) where he split Clark in to >two people: Clark and Superman. It's my TUFS episode, the two-part Mxysplit and All Mxyed Up. But you don't have to ask forgiveness as long as you use adjectives like great. >It's been a while since I've read this >one, but didn't Clark without the powers have to use his smarts and >Superman without that ability had the strength but didn't really "know" >what to do with it? That's exactly what happened. Superman wasn't stupid or anything, but he was used to being really smart, and just being normal *felt* stupid. Like with Clark: he wasn't a weakling or anything, but he was used to being super strong and invulnerable, and normal felt like *less* than he'd been. I used the brain-brawn split so Clark would have something better than Superman. >I appreciated how the author brought that aspect >out. I really really loved that story! (I felt so sorry for poor >superman) Feel free to say that as often as you want ! Yeah, I felt sorry for Superman, too. At the time I wrote that, I was working with a literacy student who had suffered brain damage in a car wreck, and he had lost his job and his wife as a result. He couldn't do things like he used to anymore, but he could remember being able to, and it tore me up. While I was writing it, I cried through the whole scene where Superman and Lois are talking right after he rescued her from the car. (What can I say, guys? I *always* write what I know :) >As a matter of fact I'd like to read it again and I never read >the same book over twice! Thank you, Jamee. :) Sheila sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 20:17:41 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: Fanfic submission procedure In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:44 AM 10/24/1998 -0500, you wrote: >At 8:53 AM -0400 10/24/98, No Name Available wrote: > >>--Laurie (who like fanfic to come directly to her mailbox ) > > >Laurie, now don't tell me you are one of those FoLCs who refuse to visit >the Archive ... ;) > >Kathy (it's a nice archive! Really! It is! Would I lie?? ) Sometimes people forget to remind us of the url... ;) Debby :) Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 12:30:11 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I got my copy before I joined the lists and found the fanfics. (As a librarian, of course the first thing I did after becoming a Lois and Clark fan was identify ALL the published books on LnC and order them). Herewith my opinion. A good read. Some very sweet parts. I like it a lot. I am not a fan of C. J. Cherryh, too much use of repeat phrases. He did that. Yes he did it. - you get the picture - I hope. But the story is so good, I can put up with it. I also enjoyed all three Friedman books - these are pretty straight adventure stories aimed at a comic book plus audience. But, hey, I've bought a number of novelizations of movies I liked and they are no better and do not even have new plots. Friedman is still writing but has moved onto other comic characters - maybe we should get in touch with his publisher and suggest more LnC books. The trouble(?) is I am so enjoying the archived and new fanfiction I have no time for anything else. My scifi novels are backed up right now - even some of my favorite authors. Oh what a dilemma. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:39:03 -1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charlotte Fisler wrote: > >>I also enjoyed all three Friedman books - these are pretty straight > adventure > stories aimed at a comic book plus audience.<< So are there any other L&C published stories out there besides the one we've been talking about? Are these 3 Friedman books all comic characters? > >>The trouble(?) is I am so enjoying the archived and new fanfiction > I have no > time for anything else.<< Isn't that the trouble with all of us!! Oh, poor ,poor us! > >>My scifi novels are backed up right now<< Since I've discovered this fanfic list, no other Sci Fi exhists for me! My Star Trek addiction flew out the window and Supes flew right in! I think he's staying for a while! j-meeee ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:57:04 -1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sheila Harper wrote: > >> At the time I wrote that, I was working with a literacy > student who had suffered brain damage in a car wreck, and he had lost > his > job and his wife as a result. He couldn't do things like he used to > anymore, > but he could remember being able to, and it tore me up. << That is horrible! You hear of that happening so much where they loose their spouse because of that. It's a hard thing to deal with having a spouse that is majorly handicapped, but I can't imagine leaving my husband because of of that! Well, your real life experience with this person sure attributed to your story and the feelings of Superman. > >>While I was writing > it, I cried through the whole scene where Superman and Lois are > talking > right after he rescued her from the car.<< Was this when they flew up into the sky and stayed up there for a little bit? I cried at that part too. I just wish that Clark would of been more understanding of poor Superman. But you gotta love the strength of love behind Clarks jealousy he always shows for Lois!:) > j-me ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:08:06 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Elizabeth Eve Davis Organization: Mississippi State University Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The book was good, but fanfic is better. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 17:10:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: L&C Fanfic Archive In-Reply-To: <4.0.2.19981024201721.008c7c50@swcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" <> Never let it be said! ;) The URL for the L&C fanfiction archive is: http://lcfanfic.actwd.com We've got over 800 stories up there, written by nearly that many talented authors -- and if you're a FoLC who hasn't stopped on by yet, please do visit us, we'd love the company. ;) In other (exciting!) news.. looks like we'll have our Anonymous FTP access back up within a short (as yet undetermined) amount of time. (We'll pause now for cheering ) LOL It'll happen as soon as we can configure everything properly.. :) We'll also probably be coming at you all with a domain name of our own in the near future as well, so stay tuned! ~~Demi~~ "It's up.. it's good!" ;) __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com __________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 19:28:06 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Becky Kuesters Subject: LnC Puzzles was Re: Fests (was re FoLC Love ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/21/98 12:09:53 AM, you wrote: (snip lots of stuff about fun things to do at fests) ;-) >We then went back to >the room to watch L&C and Dean/Teri tapes, and talk and gossip some more. >One woman (hi Becky! :)) had made up a packet of L&C puzzles like word >searches with episode titles and trivia quizzes and we had fun trying to >figure those out. Other people had rare appearance tapes. (hi Kathy!) :-) Sigh, that was my first and only fest, but it was so much fun... :-) I know there're some new people on the list that weren't around last time I offered these, so... I made up a set of puzzles based on LnC. Stuff like wordsearches (one has all four season's titles), crosstics, cryptoquizzes, a logic puzzle, some trivia stuff. If you would like a copy of these send me an email at tovie@aol.com with LnC puzzles in the subject line (You have to be able to receive attached files to do this) and I'll send you a copy of the puzzles. Sorry, I never got around to putting together a web page. (you'll get about six emails with attached files -- i.e., a wordsearch is an attached jpg and the word list is in the text of the email) Becky tovie@aol.com For those in touch with it, Reality is the leading cause of stress. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:14:15 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:30 PM -0500 10/25/98, Charlotte Fisler wrote: >I also enjoyed all three Friedman books - these are pretty straight adventure >stories aimed at a comic book plus audience. But, hey, I've bought a number >of novelizations of movies I liked and they are no better and do not even have >new plots. > >Friedman is still writing but has moved onto other comic characters - maybe we >should get in touch with his publisher and suggest more LnC books. This is one where I disagree. The only thing the Friedman books buy you is the pictures, IMO. They are definitely "Young Adult" novelettes -- and if you disliked the lack of romance in the Cherryl novel, don't touch these with a ten foot pole. They barely hold hands for goodness sakes. There are G rated fanfics with more spark. One thing that annoyed me about these from the get-go were the implication >from the title/descriptions that they were novelized versions of episodes ("Heat Wave" being "Man of Steel Bars" for example) but they weren't. Don't get me wrong, I prefer new stories rather than rehashes of an ep we all saw, but I think they should have reworded the titles. All 3 implied an actual episode. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@fgi.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:48:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT At 09:14 PM 10/25/1998 -0600, you wrote: >At 12:30 PM -0500 10/25/98, Charlotte Fisler wrote: > >>I also enjoyed all three Friedman books - these are pretty straight adventure >>stories aimed at a comic book plus audience. But, hey, I've bought a number >>of novelizations of movies I liked and they are no better and do not even have >>new plots. >> >>Friedman is still writing but has moved onto other comic characters - maybe we >>should get in touch with his publisher and suggest more LnC books. > > >This is one where I disagree. The only thing the Friedman books buy you is >the pictures, IMO. They are definitely "Young Adult" novelettes -- and if >you disliked the lack of romance in the Cherryl novel, don't touch these >with a ten foot pole. They barely hold hands for goodness sakes. There >are G rated fanfics with more spark. > I couldn't disagree more. I HATE every aspect of the Cherryh novel. I liked the Friedman novels, however. As Kathy said they barely hold hands, but at least Lois & Clark are on the same side of planet and are actually working together and talking to each other, instead of stealing not-so-precious moments and longing for one another. Gary who happens to think that the '&' in Lois & Clark ought to mean something... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick grudick@ieee.org | | Love is space and time made directly perceptible to the heart. - Proust | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:02:47 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/26/98 3:22:54 AM !!!First Boot!!!, kathyb@FGI.NET writes: << One thing that annoyed me about these from the get-go were the implication from the title/descriptions that they were novelized versions of episodes ("Heat Wave" being "Man of Steel Bars" for example) but they weren't. Don't get me wrong, I prefer new stories rather than rehashes of an ep we all saw, but I think they should have reworded the titles. All 3 implied an actual episode. >> Guess we don't see eye to eye on these. Also I never connected the short novels with the episodes. If you read them carefully there are a few good moments in each. Kind of like the comics. The recent comic about the selling of the Daily Planet has a great couple of pages in which Clark has to go off to save the world and Lois grabs him and gives him a big kiss before he goes. Loved that. The pictures are fun but you don't have to buy all three since they duplicate some in each one. But I do agree completely that most fan fiction is a lot better than any of these three. Charlotte p.s. see my post today on what is really good fiction - fan or otherwise. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 11:09:01 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: Re: Lois and Clark the Novel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/24/98 3:56:39 PM !!!First Boot!!!, kathyb@FGI.NET writes: << So, while I haven't re-read the book more than once (I rarely re-read fanfic, either, though, except for a very few stories), I also recommend it. >> Just a quick note here. I always reread both books and fanfic that I like. I don't consider one a success until I've read it at least three times over a period of at least 6 months or so. Maybe that's partially because I read the ending first - even mysteries - just to make sure I like it. I cannot read one with a bad ending unless it has a sequel and then I wouldn't read it until the sequel came out. Then I skim for plot. Then I finally read it from beginning to end. And this is only what I consider the first read!!! And after the initial 3 readings or so, I pick it up again and again over a period of years. I still reread Anne Mccaffrey's Dragonrider series and still marvel at the excellent beginning which caught my interest when I first read it in Analog (a science fiction magazine - the story came out in the 60s.) "Lessa woke - woke with more than the chill of the everlastingly clammy stone walls. Cold with the prescience of a danger stronger than the one ten full turns ago... "- p.s. I also like the L&C novel but some pieces of fan fiction are better. I'd give you a list but it would take all day. Charlotte ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:37:15 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Melissa Day Hall Subject: New Fanfic: It's Genetic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It's Genetic by Misha Lois looked from one dress to the other. She'd been decisive enough in clobbering the head of the convenience store thieves last week, but now she just couldn't decide. The awards ceremony was only four hours away, and if she wore the burgundy, she'd have to put her hair up. But the brown velvet, she touched the fabric again, seeking inspiration, required her hair down. A dull thud downstairs distracted her, and she half-turned towards the bedroom door, but the low rumble of her husband's voice reassured her, and she returned her attention to the two dresses draped on the bed. It was always the little decisions that were the hardest. A cheerful, squealy giggle preceded her daughter into the room. The brown-haired imp, trailing her well-worn teddy bear, scooted around the doorway, and squirmed under the bed in a flash. "Rrrraaarrr!" Clark landed in the doorway with a thump and a growl. The body of a small child hung limply from under one arm. His tshirt was smeared with tan and brown stains, and dusted lightly with flour. Lois recognized the familiar intensity of his gaze as he swept the room with his X-ray vision. Clark winked at her, and growled theatrically again. "Where's the cookie-thief?!" He flung open the closet door. "Yummy, crumby cookie-thief!" "She's under the bed!" The limp child under his arm giggled. Michael opened his eyes, winked an identical wink at Lois, and went limp again. Clark snorted. "Only foolish cookie-thieves hide under the bed. I know! She's in the shower!" He leaped for the bathroom doorway, his thump only partially drowning out the muffled giggle from under the bed. Lois heard him prowl around the room, his growl echoing oddly off the tile, accompanied by a high-pitched little-boy giggle. "Daddy!" Clark appeared at the bathroom doorway, Michael still swinging limply >from under his arm. Their eldest called again from downstairs. "The buzzer's ringing!" Clark's voice was serious for about half a nano-second. "I hear it Jon! "She got away." He swung up his son's body in front of him and growled into his stomach. "I'll have to eat this cookie-thief instead! Num! Num!" Clark started mock-gnawing. "Mommy!" Mike squealed, squirming frantically. Lois smiled, approaching, but keeping her distance from the flailing arms and legs. Clark paused in his gnawing, and Michael stilled. "Go get your cookies, Mikey." Lois said, and kissed his forehead. Clark lowered his son to the ground, and almost before his feet touched the ground, Mike was out the door and down the stairs. Lois stepped into her husband's arms. "Got time for a smooch, love?" she asked. Clark merely smiled and lowered his head to hers. He tasted of sugar and vanilla and chocolate. Lois smiled and sighed as he finally pulled away. "Think they'll be calmed down by the time the babysitter gets here?" He shrugged, a grin playing with the corners of his mouth. "I doubt it. But they'll be more likely to calm down later." He kissed her again quickly and she listened to the rapid patter of his feet hitting the stair risers. Lois lowered her voice to a stage whisper. "He's gone. You can come out now." The reply from under the bed was muffled. Lois waited patiently, making a mental note to remind Clark to vacuum under the bed. A minute later, the culprit emerged, the tell-tale cookie crumbs erased from her face, if not from the front of her shirt. A large brown smear decorated her face. "Hey sweetie." Lois swung her up to sit on the bed next to the dresses. "Want to help Mommy get dressed?" "Uh-huh." Mara squirmed into a comfortable seat and sat there, drumming her heels against the side of the bed. "Whatcha gonna wear?" "I've narrowed it down to the burgundy or the brown." Lois pointed to the two dresses beside her daughter. Lois bit her tongue as the burgundy was becrumbed in a thorough examination and unceremoniously pushed off the end of the bed. "This one, Mommy." Her daughter looked up with a brilliant smile on her face. Her hands were buried in the soft brown velvet fabric, and she brought it up to her face to nuzzle. "Hold on sweetie." Lois disentangled the dress before the chocolate streak could transfer from Mara's face. "Why do you want me to wear it?" She held it up so she could see it better. Lois was rewarded with an impatient look. "Because it's choclit!" "And you know very well that Mommy likes chocolate just as much as you do, you little cookie thief." Clark scooped her up and swung her around, eliciting a giggle. "Whee!" "Clark..." "See- she likes to fly, just like you do, Lois." "And she's got you wrapped around her little finger." Lois added dryly. Clark merely nodded. "Yep. Just like her mother." He kissed her cheek. "Now go put on your chocolate dress, Mommy." "Yeah! The choclit dress!" Mara squealed from her upside down position. Clark looked at his inverted daughter and did a double take worthy of the Three Stooges. "How'd you do that? You turn right side up this minute, young lady!" "But you're holding me, Daddy!" "Oh, yeah!" Clark spun her upright again and swooped her around the room and out the door. When he was gone, Lois held up the dress against her body and took a long look in the mirror. She tossed it back on the bed and called out as she all but slid down the banister. "Save a cookie for me!" She'd put on the 'choclit' dress after she'd gotten her chocolate fix. Author's Note: There is absolutely no point to this story. No villain, no plot, just a few characters. These things happen. In any case, I hope you enjoyed this, and if you did (or if you hated it and simply _must_ tell me), please let me know at mhall@sound.net ANY comments, criticisms, maunderings about the weather, etc. are welcome. Misha (mhall@sound.net) - - - - - "Writing is easy. All you do is stare at a blank piece of paper until drops of blood form on your forehead." -- Gene Fowler ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:17:09 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lansbury 1 Subject: Writer's Showcase--Milestone Comments: To: LOISCLA@VM.EGE.EDU.TR Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi, The Writer's Showcase is celebrating a Milestone. With the addition of this week's Featured Writer there has been a full dozen L&C fanfic writers featured there. It is hard to believe I have been doing this for 12 weeks now. I would like to thank the *Dozen* wonderful fanfic writers who have participated in the Writer's Showcase and have collectively made it a success. THANK YOU!! Now if you would like to check out this week's writer here is the URL. http://www.simplyorganized.simplenet.com/showcase.html If you would like to suggest someone for the Writer's Showcase please do so. I am now working on the second dozen. :) Annie Lansbury ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:47:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: New Fanfic: It's Genetic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:37 PM 10/26/98 -0600, Melissa Day Hall wrote: >It's Genetic >by Misha Melissa, what a delightful vignette! That is so exactly how I see Clark interacting with his kids, the kind of man who was ready for fatherhood, even if his jobs made it difficult. Now you've put me in the mood to start writing about his interactions with Laura for my S6 ep :) Sheila sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 19:59:56 -0600 Reply-To: mfwillia@flash.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: WILLIAMS Organization: THE SKYWATCHER Subject: Re: Fanfic submission procedure MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Debby wrote: > > At 10:44 AM 10/24/1998 -0500, you wrote: > >At 8:53 AM -0400 10/24/98, No Name Available wrote: > > > >>--Laurie (who like fanfic to come directly to her mailbox ) > > > > > >Laurie, now don't tell me you are one of those FoLCs who refuse to visit > >the Archive ... ;) > > > >Kathy (it's a nice archive! Really! It is! Would I lie?? ) > > Sometimes people forget to remind us of the url... ;) > > Debby :) > Debby@swcp.com Debbie are you Debbie Stark the fanzine author? If so I have been trying to contact you but my mail keeps getting returned. I want to copy a couple of your stories that have not met the G release of the archives and to share them with my friend who is over 40 (without internet access) and I (over 50) would really enjoy reading them. If you aren't, do you have her mail address? I tried to read all of Cooking with Clark in one week and couldn't do it. Jacqueline P.S. Thanks for your assistance either way. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 09:04:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Duncan Subject: Re: New Fanfic: It's Genetic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There doesn't have to always an A-plot in a good story. I read this when I woke up and thought it was the cutest thing. It's well-written and, heck, it entertained me! Good job! > > > Author's Note: There is absolutely no point to this story. No villain, no > plot, > just a few characters. These things happen. In any case, I hope you enjoyed > this, and if you did (or if you hated it and simply _must_ tell me), please > let > me know at mhall@sound.net ANY comments, criticisms, maunderings about the > weather, etc. are welcome. > Misha (mhall@sound.net) > - - - - - > "Writing is easy. All you do is stare at a blank piece of paper > until drops of blood form on your forehead." -- Gene Fowler ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 08:18:13 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: julie slisz Subject: Re: New Fanfic: It's Genetic MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain >Author's Note: There is absolutely no point to this story. No villain, no >plot, >just a few characters. These things happen. In any case, I hope you enjoyed >this, and if you did (or if you hated it and simply _must_ tell me), please >let >me know at mhall@sound.net ANY comments, criticisms, maunderings about the >weather, etc. are welcome. >Misha (mhall@sound.net) >- - - - - >"Writing is easy. All you do is stare at a blank piece of paper >until drops of blood form on your forehead." -- Gene Fowler > WOW, thats all I can say. I was having a really bad morning and I log on and find this waiting for me, it was just what I needed to brighten my day. It sorta reminds me of my daddy, except my mom never worried about what she was going to wear, she always knew exactly what to wear, and there are four kids in my family. Thanks so much for brightening my day, and who said stories need plots, this is more of a little anecdote kinda thing. Julie ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:47:35 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rowan Fuller Subject: Favourite L&C possesion and Re: Perry Jerome (was Re: More Questions) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Favourite L&C possesion my postcard from Dean which came about 13 months ago now, online friends and of course the L&C episodes themselves. In a message dated 19/10/98 03:25:44 GMT, you write: << Jenny, as to your mention that Perry's son was using his middle name -- what makes you infer that? I don't remember anything from that episode (Lethal Weapon) that implied that Jerry was a "junior". I remember that Perry's middle name was Jerome (which led to all our jokes about it being the policy of the Daily Planet to only hire men with that middle name ) and his son was Jerry, but I don't remember any more than that. Can you refresh my memory? Kathy >> Don't ask me why, but I think Jenny's right? I think Perry's eldest son is Perry Jerome White Jnr and goes by the name of 'Jerry'. Perhaps it came up in an earlier episode that his name was Perry and we've put two and two together? I don't know the comics well enough to get the idea from there so that's why I think it must have come up in an earlier episode in the L&C universe. I don't know though? So I'd love to know too if someone has the right answer. (Sorry if this has been answered, I'm way behind on my mail and just coming off nomail) -- Rowan http://www.hoppa.demon.co.uk http://members.aol.com/thegrauk/auk1.htm http://members.aol.com/lanekent/index.htm ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:49:51 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: New Fanfic: It's Genetic In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Misha, I read this story the whole way through with a grin on my face. I was figuring she would go for the burgandy dress as a more interesting color, but of course the brown dress is choklit! silly me! good story :) Peace A FoLC Named Peace Lois & Clark fanfic and a personal love story http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7137 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:13:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carolyn Schnall Subject: Re: Writer's Showcase--Milestone In-Reply-To: <76f13f85.36351f15@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Congratulations, Annie, and please keep them coming. I'm looking forward to the baker's dozen and beyond:) Carolyn cschnall@mail.med.cornell.edu >Hi, > >The Writer's Showcase is celebrating a Milestone. With the addition of this >week's Featured Writer there has been a full dozen L&C fanfic writers featured >there. It is hard to believe I have been doing this for 12 weeks now. > >I would like to thank the *Dozen* wonderful fanfic writers who have >participated in the Writer's Showcase and have collectively made it a success. >THANK YOU!! > >Now if you would like to check out this week's writer here is the URL. >http://www.simplyorganized.simplenet.com/showcase.html > >If you would like to suggest someone for the Writer's Showcase please do so. >I am now working on the second dozen. :) > >Annie Lansbury ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:40:44 -0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: The Perils of Pregnancy: an Earthperson's Guide MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys! Just thought I'd run something past you that's been at the back of my mind (yes....I *have* one! Somewhere. Seem to have misplaced it at the moment, but it was definitely around at some point this morning.....) about Lois and Clark having kids and dealing with pregnancy. For some reason, I had always just naturally assumed without much thinking about it, that if we'd had a fifth season with Lois becoming pregnant, then Bernie Klein would a/ have to be told about Clark being Superman and b/ horrendous a notion as it may seem (and I can just see Lois going hysterical on us at the very thought! ) he would have to deal with the pregnancy and deliver the child. Why? Well, I just couldn't see Clark and Lois gaily tripping down to the local maternity unit and Klein is the only sensible solution, albeit an imperfect one. Clark and Lois would have absolutely no idea how the baby would develop in the womb, with its hybrid Kryptonian/Human genealogy. Is it really likely they'd risk months of visits to a prenatal clinic where at any moment something could turn up in Lois' blood tests or show up on a scanner that would be deemed unusual - at the very least? I mean, it would only take one reckless moment and boom - the front page of the NW would be asking if there was a glut of alien babies being born in Metropolis! Would they really feel able to take such a risk? They might well be reasonably reassured by the fact that Clark himself seemed perfectly human until puberty when his powers kicked in and, of course, the baby would be even less Kryptonian than he is, but it would still be an incredible risk to take to entrust Lois' care to a large group of people who might blow Clark's secret at any moment if the routine tests being performed brought up something questionable in the baby's development. There are so many possibilities, it would be a regular minefield. The reason I've brought this up is that I was surprised then when I started reading fanfic to find that none of the authors who'd written pregnancy stories seemed to give this theory a second thought - it was never mentioned - that I can recall at least - in any one of a huge amount of fanfic I read on the subject, let alone raised as a potential problem for our heroes. Most every story I've read just has them attending clinics like any normal, un-Superpower-burdened young couple. This *shouldn't*, I should firmly insist here, be taken as a criticism of any of these authors. Although my personal taste has never really run to pregnancy, or even kiddiefic, stories in the past, I do have to say that I've thoroughly enjoyed all of the fanfic I've read in this sub-genre in the past year and many of them have become well read favorites. No......it's just that I was curious as to why none of them seemed to have considered it, that was all and I'd be even more curious to hear from any of them (no doubt as they shoot me down in flames in a trail of blazing smoke as they've thought of something obvious and simple which I failed to consider completely..... ) as to why they didn't have a problem with the clinic concept. Authors - over to you! LabRat :-) **************************************************************************** ************ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup..... ....Dawson Rambo.. **************************************************************************** ************ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 17:54:48 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: The Perils of Pregnancy: an Earthperson's Guide Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:40 PM 10/27/98 -0000, you wrote: >The reason I've brought this up is that I was surprised then when I started >reading fanfic to find that none of the authors who'd written pregnancy >stories seemed to give this theory a second thought - it was never >mentioned - that I can recall at least - in any one of a huge amount of >fanfic I read on the subject, let alone raised as a potential problem for >our heroes. Most every story I've read just has them attending clinics like >any normal, un-Superpower-burdened young couple. Well, as one of the staff writers for S5 and TUFS, I can tell you that we most definitely *did* consider this question, and in S5 (and possibly TUFS--sorry, they run together in my mind), we had L&C reveal their secret to Dr. Klein. He monitored Lois constantly to make sure there was nothing that would show up in the routine tests that the clinic ran. In both series, we decided that we would have a normal delivery, so nothing showed up in any of Dr. Klein's tests to indicate a problem that would have made it impossible for a regular doctor to deliver the baby without discovering Clark's secret. Sheila sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:36:21 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: TAN: Grammar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This appeared in today's paper--it's an AP story: "It's Cool to Split" Dictionary abandons rule on infinitives Old Saybrook, Conn. -- It's time to officially abandon the centuries-old rule agains the split infinitive, say the makers of Oxford dictionaries, the self- proclaimed "last word on words." Random House, Strunk and White and other grammatical authorities already have given their approval to split infinitives. But the latest word come from Oxford, publisher of the venerable unabridged Oxford English Dictionary --- the hallowed 20-volume, 138-pound, 21,730-page O.E.D. It is considered by many to be *the* authority on English. The change is included in the new Oxford American Desk Dictionary, which came out last month. The dictionary says the prohibition on split infinitives can lead to "awkward, stilted sentences." Some language purists are unhappy with the change. They say the infinitive -- a verb with "to" in front of it -- always should remain joined. For example, the infinitive "to abandon" should be modified as "to abandon officially," they say, and never "to officially abandon." "I do think it's a great sadness that the Oxford dictionary is doing this," said Loftus Jestin, head of the English department at Central Connecticut State University. "Hearing split infinitives is like listening to Mozart when the pianist keeps hitting all the wrong notes." "I do not dine with those who split infinitives," said Samuel Pickering, a University of Connecticut English professor. But Frank Abate, editor in chief of Oxford's U.S. dictionaries program in Old Saybrook, says the ban on split infinitives is arbitrary. The rule has its basis in Latin, and, as Abate points out, we don't speak Latin. "There's essentially no validity to it," Abate said. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:36:19 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: more from today's paper Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit There was an article on Kava leaves and their calming effect. Gee, guess someone didn't do their research well when writing the pilot. Didn't the box of leaves Perry had say "paava"? --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 18:57:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Karen Ward Subject: Re: The Perils of Pregnancy: an Earthperson's Guide Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" [snip] >Why? Well, I just couldn't see Clark and Lois gaily tripping down to the >local maternity unit and Klein is the only sensible solution, albeit an >imperfect one. Clark and Lois would have absolutely no idea how the baby >would develop in the womb, with its hybrid Kryptonian/Human genealogy. Is it >really likely they'd risk months of visits to a prenatal clinic where at any >moment something could turn up in Lois' blood tests or show up on a scanner >that would be deemed unusual - at the very least? I mean, it would only take >one reckless moment and boom - the front page of the NW would be asking if >there was a glut of alien babies being born in Metropolis! Would they really >feel able to take such a risk? You have made an excellent point, LabRat. However, I must also point out that it would be equally suspicious (if not more so) if Lois and Clark didn't visit a regular prenatal clinic. It would pretty much be a dead giveaway that something was unique about Lois' pregnance if she opted to see a scientist trained in the field of research (from what I've seen, I'd guess Dr. Klein's specialty to be physics) rather than one specializing in clinical obstetrics. [snip some more interesting and valid points discussed by LabRat] >The reason I've brought this up is that I was surprised then when I started >reading fanfic to find that none of the authors who'd written pregnancy >stories seemed to give this theory a second thought - it was never >mentioned - that I can recall at least - in any one of a huge amount of >fanfic I read on the subject, let alone raised as a potential problem for >our heroes. Most every story I've read just has them attending clinics like >any normal, un-Superpower-burdened young couple. I'm glad you've brought this up because the fanfic I'm working on right now touches on this subject. I've spent a great deal of time wondering about this particular dilemma and it's nice to have someone shed some new light on it. Thanks! Karen :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:04:56 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Conditions are dark. The forecast is deadly. Tea, anyone?" Subject: Re: The Perils of Pregnancy: an Earthperson's Guide << Why? Well, I just couldn't see Clark and Lois gaily tripping down to the local maternity unit [snip a lot] The reason I've brought this up is that I was surprised then when I started reading fanfic to find that none of the authors who'd written pregnancy stories seemed to give this theory a second thought - it was never mentioned - that I can recall at least - in any one of a huge amount of fanfic I read on the subject, let alone raised as a potential problem for our heroes. >> I agree that, under normal circumstances, I can't see Lois and Clark "gaily tripping down to the local maternity unit." I had this same problem with I decided to write a "pregnancy fic." I also do not want to imagine Dr Klein, well-meaning as he may be, acting as an OBGYN. So, in a story that will hopefully be up on the Archive relatively soon, I put Lois and Clark under extra-ordinary circumstances for the birth of their first child. Hopefully this isn't giving away too much of my story, but, like many others have, I had Lois give birth to their firstborn while Clark was on New Krypton. This was a decision I agonized over since I know so many others have done this. But I had my reasons for it and will hopefully follow up on them in other fanfics (if I ever have time to write anything for fun again ;) In my mind, this was the only way to solve the doctor issue: Lois and the Kents were too preoccupied with the fact that Clark was gone and was missing this unique time of his marriage with Lois, and trying to cover his absence. So the idea that the baby might be different because of Clark's Kryptonian-ness never came up for them. (I know this is a stretch, and a pretty lame one, but I couldn't think of a better way for it to work, though I've read a lot of very enjoyable fanfics where Lois and Clark treat the birth of their child like any earth couple would.) Along with the hard time I had picturing Dr Klein as an OBGYN, I even wonder what *kind* of doctor he is. (Has it ever been mentioned in the show? I don't remember it.) Just because he is called "Dr" doesn't mean he is a medical doctor. He could have a PhD. His areas of expertise seem pretty wide, but, from how he is portrayed on the show, he seems like more of a researcher than a physician. I know he sees Clark in a physician capacity, but everything else he does does not seem physician-related, more physics or maybe chemistry-related. And, in that way, Clark would be a really cool physics/chemistry experiment. To me, Klein always seemed more into things like lasers, the circuitry of Ching's transmitter, etc. It doesn't appear that he sees patients other thank Clark. Just an observation... -Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu Attalanta on IRC ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:21:34 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Crystal Wimmer Subject: Re: The Perils of Pregnancy: an Earthperson's Guide Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/27/98 2:27:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, labrat@DIRCON.CO.UK writes: << The reason I've brought this up is that I was surprised then when I started reading fanfic to find that none of the authors who'd written pregnancy stories seemed to give this theory a second thought - it was never mentioned - that I can recall at least - in any one of a huge amount of fanfic I read on the subject, let alone raised as a potential problem for our heroes. Most every story I've read just has them attending clinics like any normal, un-Superpower-burdened young couple. >> Okay... I need to blow my own horn, here... I did, I did, I did ;) Try reading Full Circle (the first one, not the TUFS one)... they have a complicated pregnancy, enlist Dr. Klein's help, the whole shebang! It's in the fanfic archive, I think, or you can find it on my site... or I can e-mail it to you if you like. I've been told it's pretty good... long, but good ;) Thanks for listening, Crystal Wimmer JCWimmer@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:27:24 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: The Perils of Pregnancy: an Earthperson's Guide Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/27/98 4:27:22 PM Central Standard Time, labrat@DIRCON.CO.UK writes: << For some reason, I had always just naturally assumed without much thinking about it, that if we'd had a fifth season with Lois becoming pregnant, then Bernie Klein would a/ have to be told about Clark being Superman and b/ horrendous a notion as it may seem (and I can just see Lois going hysterical on us at the very thought! ) he would have to deal with the pregnancy and deliver the child. >> I don't think it' horrendous at all that Klein would know I can't seem to resist writing Klein as knowing, or figuring it out in my stories ;) There's two reasons, one, he might be the best hope Lois and Clark have for a safe delivery and monitoring of their child, but also, I think he *deserves* to know ;) He's the only true friend *Superman* has (aside from Lois) He treats Superman like a person, not a god or hero -- "Uh oh, feeling a little crabby today?" ;) He even disobeyed the mayor by telling Lois about the Kryptonite bullets. Since he mentioned "clinical" work (dealing with disease in patients rather than theory and experimentation) then he must be a medical doctor as well as a research scientist (even though he avoided clinical work because he was "too blunt" with patients ;) That combination sounds ideal for Lois and Clark. He doesn't have to be an OBGYN since that specialty might be all but valueless in Lois' unique situation. I'm sure he'd concentrate on pregnancy issues and techniques if Lois were placed in his care, and he'd be quite diligent. I wouldn't be surprised if Lois and Clark's kids called him "Uncle Bernie" In the end, of course, it's up to the writers and how they want to handle the story line, but I would definitely go with Klein's, he's the man! ;) Zoomway@aol.com (and he's so darn cute explaining the "little room" to Clark ;) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 19:53:54 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: Tribute to Mark Zarate, visual effects supervisor for L&C Comments: cc: LOISCLA@vm.ege.edu.tr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I set up a tribute site for Visual Effects Supervisor Mark Zarate who created some great special effects for Lois and Clark over the years. Andrea did a wonderful job making avis for the site that highlight some of Zarate's work. I also converted the avis into Real Player .ram files and tried to get them as close to avi quality as possible. They load in half the time of the avis, but you have to have the latest version of Real Player, like the G2 Beta version, and it's free from their site at http://www.real.com/products/player I have to thank Chris Paterson for donating site space. My site is still not fully up and operational yet after the big overhaul and so you'll find the tribute at: http://www.ixpres.com/chrispat/atribute.htm Tim Minear kindly gave permission for his comments about working with Mark to be posted there. Zoomway@aol.com (<----- write me if you experience any technical difficulties ;) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:51:11 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Favourite L&C possesion and Re: Perry Jerome (was Re: More Questions) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:47 AM -0500 10/27/98, Rowan Fuller wrote: >Don't ask me why, but I think Jenny's right? I think Perry's eldest son is >Perry Jerome White Jnr and goes by the name of 'Jerry'. Perhaps it came up in >an earlier episode that his name was Perry and we've put two and two together? Jenny thinks she was confusing the comics and the show on this one. I have seen every L&C episode, and I know that Perry's son's names were never mentioned until Lethal Weapon, when Jerry came on the scene. He refered to "the boys" in several episodes, but never by name. Alice was with visiting with them in Iowa (Iowa?? ) in "All Shook Up", when everyone feared the Earth would be detroyed. In "Home Is Where the Hurt Is" -- 3rd season Xmas ep -- Perry was all excited that the boys had invited him skiing over Christmas but Alice messed up the plans by insisting she be invited too (she and Perry were separated by then). Then in "Twas The Night Before Mxymas" -- 4th season Xmas ep -- Perry was depressed because he didn't spend enough time with them when they were growing up. These are all the episodes that I can remember Perry mentioning his children in, but in none did he address them by name. Thus, the only episode we would have heard Jerry's full name was in "Lethal Weapon", and I don't remember it mentioned in that episode, and neither does anyone else who has come forward. Now, that's not to say that Jerry doesn't go by his middle name -- but any mention of this must have been in fanfic, not in the show. Kathy (gee, is there a Concordance section for Perry's kids? ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@fgi.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:51:28 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Fanfic submission procedure Comments: To: mfwillia@flash.net In-Reply-To: <3635291C.6B91@flash.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:59 PM -0600 10/26/98, WILLIAMS wrote: >> Debby :) >> Debby@swcp.com >Debbie are you Debbie Stark the fanzine author? It never ceases to amaze me how people can put that "ie" on there immediately following Debby's clearly "y"-spelled name. I know she's as protective of her "y" as I am of my "K", so I'll say this for all of us people with variations of our names -- please get it right!!! <--- no anger, just sincere teasing ;) >If so I have been trying to contact you but my mail keeps getting >returned. I want to copy a couple of your stories that have not met the >G release of the archives and to share them with my friend who is over >40 (without internet access) and I (over 50) would really enjoy reading >them. I'm guessing that you are talking about the nfic stories that Debby maintains ads for. Debby herself does not write nfic, but she does maintain a distribution list of people interested in receiving emailed advertisements from nfic authors. But the short answer is that Debby can't give permission to forward nfic stories -- only the author of the individual nfic can do that. So, if you have a story in mind that you want to share with your friend (a noble endeavor ), write the author of that story directly. >If you aren't, do you have her mail address? I tried to read all of >Cooking with Clark in one week and couldn't do it. Debby's email address is correct as you have it, so you might want to try again. Maybe her server was down temporarily. I do know that her ISP sometimes blocks mail from other ISPs they've identified as spam sites, so if that's the case, she won't receive your mail. You might try from a different account if you have one, or have a friend try to reach her. If all else fails, though, reaching her through this list was a good option. "Cooking with Clark" is actually the first chapter of her epic series "Dawning". Dawning is up to 22 chapters, each a long fanfic in its own right. If you really meant you tried to get through all 22 currently completed Dawning chapters in one week, I take my hat off to you. Getting started on that epic now takes courage. (Though as someone who has been following it since D8 or so, I have enjoyed reading it.) >P.S. Thanks for your assistance either way. Since I haven't seen Debby respond to the list, I thought I'd jump in. Hope I answered your questions. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kathyb@fgi.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 20:31:32 -1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: The Perils of Pregnancy: an Earthperson's Guide MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit LabRat wrote: > >>For some reason, I had always just naturally assumed without much > thinking > about it, that if we'd had a fifth season with Lois becoming pregnant, > then > Bernie Klein would a/ have to be told about Clark being Superman and > b/ > horrendous a notion as it may seem (and I can just see Lois going > hysterical > on us at the very thought! ) he would have to deal with the > pregnancy and > deliver the child.<< Just thought I'd say that I've always invisioned this also. Even before I found out about fanfic. I've been waiting to stumble across a fic that did this, but so far I haven't. ( oh yeah, Crytal's fic....~making mental note to read that next!~)I just love Dr. Klein and I loved it when in S5 they told him about Supes being Clark. There are so many unexplainable things about the Superman story, that I'm sure having Dr. Klein be the one to deliver could be made beleivable enough! j-me > > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:29:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Atcliffe, Phillip" Subject: Combo: "It's Genetic" & Perry Jerome In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII To Melissa: Wonderful story. As for the requirement(?) for an A-plot ('cause your story *has* a plot) -- well, I think I'll let my .sig express my opinion. I normally only use that one when wearing my editing hat, but I don't think Kathy and co. will mind in this instance. Speaking of Kathy, she wrote: > ...gee, is there a Concordance section for Perry's kids? No, there isn't -- or if there is, it's *very* well hidden. I looked, needing to find some stuff for S6, and came away with SFA. The massed ranks of FoLCdom might know -- is Jerry White Perry's elder son or his younger? I always had the feeling that he was the younger boy, but I can't remember hearing anything at all about his brother. Anybody out there got some details? Phil ------------------------------------------------------------ Phil Atcliffe (Phillip.Atcliffe@uwe.ac.uk) General Editor, Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive "A-plot? We don't need no steenkin' A-plot!" -- a multitude of FoLCs ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 18:52:42 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Subject: Re: more from today's paper In-Reply-To: <6cfcb886.363658f3@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:36 PM 10/27/1998 -0500, you wrote: >There was an article on Kava leaves and their calming effect. Gee, guess >someone didn't do their research well when writing the pilot. Didn't the box >of leaves Perry had say "paava"? > >--Laurie No doubt "Kava" was copywrited (copywriten?) so they had to come up with a close-sounding name... like "New Troy" instead of "New York" :) Debby Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:24:38 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Combo: "It's Genetic" & Perry Jerome Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-10-28 03:30:34 EST, Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK writes: << The massed ranks of FoLCdom might know -- is Jerry White Perry's elder son or his younger? I always had the feeling that he was the younger boy, but I can't remember hearing anything at all about his brother. Anybody out there got some details? >> I know nothing, but he did seem more like he would have been a younger son (age-wise, too). --Laurie (who no longer even blinks when people spell it Lori ) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:52:53 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rowan Fuller Subject: Re: Favourite L&C possesion and Re: Perry Jerome (was Re: More Qu. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 28/10/98 04:50:44 GMT, you write: << Now, that's not to say that Jerry doesn't go by his middle name -- but any mention of this must have been in fanfic, not in the show. Kathy (gee, is there a Concordance section for Perry's kids? ) >> I'm afraid I don't know my L&C episodes well enough to argue with any of that . Fanfic! That must have been where I got the idea from because I know I haven't got it from the comics. Thanks Kathy Rowan ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 08:25:21 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Susan Subject: Writing School Online MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii You may all have already heard of this but I ran across this today and found it intriguing...one of their classes is free, the others you pay for. http://4-writers.com/class_schedule.htm Susan _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 20:58:09 -0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LabRat Subject: Re: Perils of Pregnancy..... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey guys! Heee-lllooo - looks like I've been reading the wrong fanfic. Or....in the case of Crystal (FULL CIRCLE) and Sheila (S5/TUFS) the right fanfic, but just not reading it closely enough. Hey, what can I say? I have a habit of skipping over the icky bits when it comes to pregnancies. Looks like I've missed a lot I should have paid more attention to. Anyway, in quick succession, some points arising from the posts in my mailbox this evening: Karen: *Excellent* point about it being just as suspicious for them not to attend the clinic. And great to hear that you're writing a new fanfic based on this premise. I must admit I'd love to see some deep discussion on the dangers and how to circumvent them from Clark and Lois. Christy: Lots of intriguing thoughts here. And more great fic on the way! Wonderful. On the 'Dr.' question - yes, I realize that Klein probably has no medical background or OBGYN experience, but he was the only person in the equation, I thought, that Clark would feel able to divulge his secret too and at the same time would have some degree of knowledge of dealing with Kryptonian genealogy (from his frequent solving of Superman's problems). An imperfect solution, I'll definitely agree with you - but in the absence of a fully qualified medical doctor who they knew well enough to trust with the secret.....perhaps all that they had? And I'm sure you're right that Superman is Klein's only patient - he does say at one point that he is too tactless to deal with clinical work, doesn't he? In so many words. In IASWAA. Crystal: Yes, you certainly did, Crystal. And I apologize very humbly (you may insert scuffing noises here as I press my forehead to the carpet) for not remembering the sheer wealth of detail and research you put into one of my favorite ever nfics. I'm ashamed of myself. Utterly. How could I forget some of the most harrowing, emotional, sweet scenes I've ever read? Zoom: Oh no! I didn't mean that it would be horrendous that Bernie would know the secret. I just could see Lois having hysterics at the thought of him delivering her baby. That was the horrendous part. Personally, I think Klein's much more professional and competent than that sometimes vague exterior would have us believe. Wonderful guy! You should see him at the lab Christmas party! They had to move my cage twice last year to give him room to lambada on the tables. And then there was that incident with the........ahem....yes, well, moving smartly on.....(there was no need to rattle the cage *quite* so hard there, Bernie.....I can be discreet for the hand that feeds me.....) BTW, Clark and Lois' kids *do* call him Uncle Bernie in a couple of wonderful nfics by a friend of mine, LadyBiker (you can get them at Zoom's nfic site, guys!). Beautifully written vignettes about the future life of our heroes and their extended family. I've often thought of him exactly as you do here, Zoom. He's such a sweet guy. Doc. Klein's LabRat :-) **************************************************************************** ************ Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup..... ....Dawson Rambo.. **************************************************************************** ************ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 21:58:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: The Perils of Pregnancy: an Earthperson's Guide Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Interesting topic, LabRat :-) I'd just like to speak up for one of my favorite fanfics... "Aliens and Strangers" by Susan Stone. True, her story deals with L&C's kids whe= n they get to be teenagers, *but* the issue is referenced in dialog... one = of the daughters mentioned that "Mom had to pretend to be a total granola" -= - i.e., Lois professed to believe in homebirth and natural care, with just Clark reading up on pregnancies and treating her as best he could at home= , including the home birth. It's considered unnatural now to *not* go to doctors, but this would be a workable cover for it. (The story was writt= en a while back, it might have been before Bernie was in very many episodes;= at any rate, he's not mentioned) >> if we'd had a fifth season with Lois becoming pregnant << Whaddya mean, if? We had at least two fifth seasons that I can recal= l. Okay, sure, they weren't actually on TV, but I consider that a minor detail... PJ !^NavFont02F03050016MGHHI53MI55HI82MI84HJME71F Distribution: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of S INTERNET:LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU