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In a message dated 10/14/98 8:42:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
jernigan@COMPUSERVE.COM writes:

<< I think my personal best, so far, is sending away to Kraft for the
 "balancing superhero" toy - it's pretty cool, actually, and only cost me
 $1.00 plus shipping and handling! <g> (well, plus boxtops, but I have a
 toddler, so it's not hard to collect boxtops)

 <looks around guiltily>  This isn't really on topic for this list, is it?
 Oh well... >>

lol... maybe not, but it sure is fun.  Last weekend was NEFF (the New
England
Folk Fest), and you should have seen the ruckus we created at the Warner
Brothers store... I don't think we left a thing.  Here we are... 18 grown
women... fondling the superman statue and buying everything with his picture
on it... it was really cool <vbeg>.

As for my favorite, it has to be the Superman Milk Bottle (the profferred
drink of supreheros everywhere)... it is a glass milk bottle with sups on
the
front, and a "Smallville Dairy" stamp on the back... with a recommendation
to
visit "Ma and Pa Kent" on your next visit.  I took it to use as my water
bottle at school, and I've had 3 of my kids (I teach school) try to talk me
out of it... and they don't even *like* milk!

As for off-topic, nah.  We are just off on a tangent (duly noted in the
subject line)... so, what does everyone else out there count as their most
prized posession??  Anyone??

Crystal
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 00:44:19 +1000
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There's an nfic page?

jem
<colour me confused>
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To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
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Date: Thursday, 15 October 1998 10:09
Subject: Re: About Zoom's Nfic site

>In a message dated 10/14/98 6:48:58 PM Central Daylight Time,
>sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes:
>
><< One forgets . . . :)  Jess, zoom is Zoomway, the list mom for the main
> LOISCLA discussion list, superfan, writer of amazingly long analytical
> posts, excellent fanfic writer, unending store of L&C trivia, and
all-around
> nice lady. >>
>
>Is it any wonder I hire the Sheila Harper PR firm?  If they can make me
sound
>good, they can make Lex Luthor sound good <g> Thanks for the compliments,
>Sheila ;) For the record, I'm 'Zoom' and my site is a Lois and Clark site,
and
>on that site is an nfic page and on that entry page a password is needed,
and
>the green grass grew all around all around and the green grass grew all
around
>;)
>
>As to the nfic page, its message boards are being overhauled and moved as
>quickly as Beth can do so.  This information has been posted here, LOISCLA
and
>to those subscribed to the nfic page.
>
>Zoomway@aol.com (Zoom, Zoomie, Zoomster, Zoomeister, Zoomo, and Xoom ;)
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>As for off-topic, nah.  We are just off on a tangent (duly noted in the
>subject line)... so, what does everyone else out there count as their most
>prized posession??  Anyone??
>
>Crystal

You mean, besides my best friend? <g>

jem
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Pam, obviously the kid at Burger King never heard about the feeding frenzy
(no pun intended!) at McDonalds's every time that hoards of people pleaded
to be allowed to buy the Teeny Beanies without the food!

Vicki
Vicki.Krell@ASU.Edu <mailto:Vicki.Krell@ASU.Edu>

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                From:   Pam Jernigan [mailto:jernigan@COMPUSERVE.COM]
                Sent:   Wednesday, October 14, 1998 8:00 PM
                To:     LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
                Subject:        My L&C history; and RE: dumb

                Hi Julie,

                Welcome to FOLCdom <g>  (FOLC, in case you haven't
encountered that
                acronym before, stands for Fan Of L&C and is pronounced
like/is a pun of
                "folk")

                >>  I now have several little things that my friends think
                i'm nuts because I have, like my macaroni noodle that is the
superman
                'S' and my burgerking toy whose arms pop up when you push
the button on
                his back. <<

                I just had to laugh at these two, 'cause I have them, too...
<g>  I
                remember going into the BK and asking the kid behind the
counter if I could
                just buy the toy, without the food.  He looked at me as if I
were insane,
                but hey, I'm not the one in the minimum wage job... <g>

                I think my personal best, so far, is sending away to Kraft
for the
                "balancing superhero" toy - it's pretty cool, actually, and
only cost me
                $1.00 plus shipping and handling! <g> (well, plus boxtops,
but I have a
                toddler, so it's not hard to collect boxtops)

                <looks around guiltily>  This isn't really on topic for this
list, is it?
                Oh well...

                PJ
                the unrepentant <g>

                !^NavFont02F032E0014MGHHG83MG85HHsMHuHJv3FAD

                  E-mail from: Pam Jernigan
                  jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC
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                http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/folc.html
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fanfics
                ~~~~~
                "That would be me.  Superman's girlfriend, Clark Kent's
wife,
                Kal-El's concubine.  Former girlscout, present reporter,
future
                mental patient.  Time traveller, dimension hopper, soul
migrator..."
                Lois reflects on her life, in _Always Something There to
                Remind Me_ by Zoomway

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From:         Regina Gilchrist Ash <rashtchr@BIGPLANET.COM>
Subject:      new email address...yes, already
Comments: To: Sheila Harper <sharper@cncc.cc.co.us>,
          Tina Schubert <TMJSCHUB@aol.com>,
          TOY listserv <toy@pedpisun.dpi.state.nc.us>,
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I can't believe it, but a national, *large* ISP has a Bryson City (aka "the
boondocks") access number...so my new email address is operational,
already:

rashtchr@bigplanet.com

Hope this is the last one of these for a long time.

Regina

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>>so, what does everyone else out there count as their most prized
posession??  Anyone??<<

My most prized Lois and Clark possesion is definitely my superman pj's.
Everyone remembers the ones that Lois wore in "I'm Looking Through You,"
they were blue with the superman 's' on the front.  When my grandmother
found out that I loved the show (she loves it too), she made them for
me, wasn't that nice of her.

Ok, well I have class in three minutes, I better be leaving.

Julie

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Hi there, everyone...!
Sorry to bother you this way, but I've just recently subscribed to the
LoisCla
listserv and I was wondering if anyone out there
could help me...?

I am from Portugal (Europe, close to Spain) and L&C is being shown at this
moment on our TV for the second time. As I missed the first round
completely,
this is all very new to me. They are finishing the 3rd Season at the moment
of
writing.

I didn't see the first 5 episodes and only started video taping the eps from
the
Witness one onwards. I also "lost"
my tape of Ultrawoman.
I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the eps are for sale anywhere or
if
it's possible to get hold of them some way...?
It would be very much appreciated if someone could help.
Oh, yes... just another thing. Our VCR system is different from the
American,
which complicates things even more.

Thank you so much in advance for all the help you can provide,
Cheers,
Celia
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In a message dated 10/15/98 11:28:12 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
superjuls@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<< >>so, what does everyone else out there count as their most prized
 possession??  Anyone??<< >>

Most Prized Possession from Lois & Clark??

That would have to be the many, many *great* friends I have made over the
last
few years. FoLCdom is a wonderful thing.

Anne :)

PS: there are all those autographed pics of the stud himself <VBG>
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In a message dated 10/15/98 1:19:19 PM Central Daylight Time,
AMCiotola@AOL.COM writes:

<< Most Prized Possession from Lois & Clark??

 That would have to be the many, many *great* friends I have made over the
last
 few years. FoLCdom is a wonderful thing. >>

I definitely have to agree with that.  The Folc I've met in person, or
simply
on line, have been the best part. As far as 'material' mementos, well, Di
and
Bill gave me the music sheet from Trask's Theme, Grant Rosenberg sent me a
cast and crew cap and Tim Minear sent me his scripts.  L&C has always given
me
more than I can repay, and I still watch the show on TNT even though I have
all the eps on tape ;)

Zoomway@aol.com
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At 3:22 PM +0200 10/15/98, Celia M Carvalho wrote:
>Hi there, everyone...!
>Sorry to bother you this way, but I've just recently subscribed to the
LoisCla
>listserv

Welcome to the fanfic list, Celia.  I hope you enjoy yourself.

Just to clarify, there are two L&C listservs.  LOISCLA is the "main" list,
for discussion of the episodes, actors, characters, etc.  This list,
LOISCLA-GENERAL-L, or "the fanfic list" is mainly for discussion of fanfic,
though we certainly do branch off into other topics.

Hope you joined the one you thought you were. :)

>I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the eps are for sale anywhere or
if
>it's possible to get hold of them some way...?
>It would be very much appreciated if someone could help.
>Oh, yes... just another thing. Our VCR system is different from the
American,
>which complicates things even more.

The fact that you aren't on the American system does complicate things.
L&C is on in reruns in the US on TNT, and you might find someone who would
be willing to tape those few episodes for you if you offer to reimburse the
costs.  However, if you can't read those tapes, it won't do you much good.

Does Portugal use the same VCR system as the UK or other European
countries? Or Australia?  If so, you might want to direct your plea to
European or Australian FoLCs who might be able to  copy their existing
tapes of those episodes for you.  Since you are only looking for six
specific episodes, you might have an easier time of it than someone asking
for tapes of an entire season.

I know that tapes of the first season (and the beginning of the second?)
were available for sale in the UK a few years ago.  I don't know if they
still are for sale, or if they were only there for a limited time.

Good luck!

Kathy (as US folc with a full set up tapes but only one VCR.)

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Crystal Wimmer wrote:

> >>. so, what does everyone else out there count as their most
> prized posession??  Anyone??<<

Well my family thinks I'm regressing back to my childhood because I'm
constantly looking for  something with superman on it, a keychain,
p.j.'s anything!! (I tell them it helps me to have something in common
with my son! The truth is I'm definitly into it more then him! <g>) But
I can find nothing here in Hawaii!  I just went on vacation and drove
through 3 states (California, Oregon, and Washington) and could find
nothing!  Tons of Trekkie stuff but no Supes stuff! :(  The only thing I
got was my picture taken by a giant comic book Superman at the Oregon
Museum of Science Institue.  It didn't turn out too well, but it's all I
got and it's pretty darn special to me!

j-me

>
>
>
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>At 3:22 PM +0200 10/15/98, Celia M Carvalho wrote:

>>I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the eps are for sale anywhere
or if
>>it's possible to get hold of them some way...?
>>It would be very much appreciated if someone could help.
>>Oh, yes... just another thing. Our VCR system is different from the
American,
>>which complicates things even more.
>
>The fact that you aren't on the American system does complicate things.
>L&C is on in reruns in the US on TNT, and you might find someone who would
>be willing to tape those few episodes for you if you offer to reimburse the
>costs.  However, if you can't read those tapes, it won't do you much good.
>
>Does Portugal use the same VCR system as the UK or other European
>countries? Or Australia?  If so, you might want to direct your plea to
>European or Australian FoLCs who might be able to  copy their existing
>tapes of those episodes for you.  Since you are only looking for six
>specific episodes, you might have an easier time of it than someone asking
>for tapes of an entire season.
>
>I know that tapes of the first season (and the beginning of the second?)
>were available for sale in the UK a few years ago.  I don't know if they
>still are for sale, or if they were only there for a limited time.
>
>Good luck!
>
>Kathy (as US folc with a full set up tapes but only one VCR.)

As far as I'm aware, the WB tapes are still on sale here in the UK in PAL
format, although the Pilot can be a little trickier to track down than the
others. But it depends which episodes you're looking for, Celia (sorry
missed your original post). WB pulled the plug on us after tape 13
(TOGOM/BFTB/SG) when LNC was cancelled. So we only ever made it to midway
through season two. Which was a pity because although in places the
packaging was extremely sloppy (transposed episode titles/wrong episode
titles on the covers) they were done in really neat white cases with the S
shield on them and look really cool on my video shelves. Would have liked to
have had a full set.>

LabRat :-)
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<< >>so, what does everyone else out there count as their most prized
 possession??  Anyone??<< >>

Well, my most prized Lois and Clark related possession would be a t-shirt
that
two friends made me for my last birthday. It's white, short sleeves, and has
a
small Superman shield in the left corner. On the back is written: "Just
remember there are no perfect sunsets - there's a little crack in every
cloud,
but that's what gives you your silver lining." (Perry, DTOSC)

Second place would have to go to two of my Superman action figures. They
were
my brother's and mind when we were young. One is Superman with a red cloth
cape
and the other is Clark Kent, in a business suit and painted-on black
glasses. I
get great reactions from people coming into my room and asking just *who*
that
action figure is supposed to be. And it even provided a little inspiration
once
when I was writing a fanfic. :)

-Christy
 kubitc@kenyon.edu
 Attalanta on IRC
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In a message dated 15/10/98 19:36:24 GMT, you write:

<< I know that tapes of the first season (and the beginning of the
second?)
 were available for sale in the UK a few years ago.  I don't know if
they
 still are for sale, or if they were only there for a limited time.

 Good luck!

 Kathy (as US folc with a full set up tapes but only one VCR.)
  >>

I sent the following email to Celia privately.  But I'll post it here in
case it is of interest to others.

The first 30 episodes were released in England by 'Warner Home Video'
(UK).  Our video system uses the PAL format.

You may be able to order them from:
http://www.hmv.co.uk

HMV is a big chain of shops in the UK and the Oxford Street branches in
London are particularly good at stocking L&C videos.  I've never ordered
them through the internet though.  As an international buyer that is
your only option.  Earlier volumes may now be deleted but are in some of
the bigger shops.  Here is a complete list of the L&C videos they
released:

 LOIS & CLARK: THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN (pilot - 88 minutes)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 1 (episodes 2 & 3)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 2 (episodes 4 & 5)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 3 (episodes 6 & 7)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 4 (episodes 8 & 9)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 5 (episodes 10 & 11)
THE NEW ADVENUTRES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 6 (episodes  (12-13)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 7  (episodes 14-15)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 8  (episodes 16-17)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 9  (episodes 18-19)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 10 (episodes 20-21)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 11 (SEASON 2 - the first 3
episodes)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 12 (SEASON 2  episodes 4-6)
THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN VOLUME 13 (SEASON 2   episodes 7-9)

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Aloha Celia,

I am not aware that there is an availability of commercial tapes on L&C.
Should you meet with some kind FOLC who is willing to send you copies of the
series you should have no problem viewing them on your machine. Most
recording companies and local television stations have the equipment
available to duplicate the tape into the necessary format and for a small
fee are usually willing to do so. The audio video department of a university
is also a resource you might look into.  A friend of mine in England sends
me Red Dwarf videos in exchange for L&C videos and we have no problem
getting them translated into the appropriate formats.
BTW my daughters and I were in Lisbon in 93, we loved it.

Ate Brevo
"M".
-----Original Message-----
From: Celia M Carvalho <carvalho@LEXMARK.COM>
To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
<LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 5:33 AM
Subject: Help...?

>Hi there, everyone...!
>Sorry to bother you this way, but I've just recently subscribed to the
LoisCla
>listserv and I was wondering if anyone out there
>could help me...?
>
>I am from Portugal (Europe, close to Spain) and L&C is being shown at this
>moment on our TV for the second time. As I missed the first round
completely,
>this is all very new to me. They are finishing the 3rd Season at the moment
of
>writing.
>
>I didn't see the first 5 episodes and only started video taping the eps
>from the
>Witness one onwards. I also "lost"
>my tape of Ultrawoman.
>I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the eps are for sale anywhere or
if
>it's possible to get hold of them some way...?
>It would be very much appreciated if someone could help.
>Oh, yes... just another thing. Our VCR system is different from the
American,
>which complicates things even more.
>
>Thank you so much in advance for all the help you can provide,
>Cheers,
>Celia
>
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Greetings and Aloha,

My most prized Lois and Clark possesion is the set of silk screened
t-shirts, made from pictures I downloaded from my computer off various L&C
websites.   I have kiss t-shirts, I have the shower scene t-shirt, I have
grope t-shirts, In all colours, extra large to wear with jeans, extra extra
large to wear over a swimsuit.  Oh, yes, their is also my prized Pareau,
air brushed with the classic Lois and Superman shot.  Talk about L&C chic! I
call it adventure apparel.

Hana Hou as we say in Hawaii
"M"
the internet mom (and Jocelyn the Krpton Kid)
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From: julie slisz <superjuls@HOTMAIL.COM>
To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
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Date: Thursday, October 15, 1998 5:27 AM
Subject: TAN: Re: My L&C history; and RE: dumb

>>>so, what does everyone else out there count as their most prized
>posession??  Anyone??<<
>
>My most prized Lois and Clark possesion is definitely my superman pj's.
>Everyone remembers the ones that Lois wore in "I'm Looking Through You,"
>they were blue with the superman 's' on the front.  When my grandmother
>found out that I loved the show (she loves it too), she made them for
>me, wasn't that nice of her.
>
>Ok, well I have class in three minutes, I better be leaving.
>
>Julie
>
>
>
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At 02:35 PM 10/15/1998 -0500, Kathy wrote:
>I know that tapes of the first season (and the beginning of the second?)
>were available for sale in the UK a few years ago.  I don't know if they
>still are for sale, or if they were only there for a limited time.

They were on sale in *Woolworth's* when I was in England last month.  There
is *nothing* more frustrating than seeing a bona fide video of the show you
love and not being able to buy it because it won't work on your VCR!<grrrr>

England seemed to have videos of a lot of shows that don't come out on
video here, although they're created and air here.

I swear it's an evil plot!  Lex Luthor must have *something* to do with
this, dontcha think?<g>

Margaret

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>They were on sale in *Woolworth's* when I was in England last month.  There
>is *nothing* more frustrating than seeing a bona fide video of the show you
>love and not being able to buy it because it won't work on your VCR!<grrrr>
>
>England seemed to have videos of a lot of shows that don't come out on
>video here, although they're created and air here.
>
>I swear it's an evil plot!  Lex Luthor must have *something* to do with
>this, dontcha think?<g>
>
>Margaret
>
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>brignell@capitalnet.com
>Ottawa, Canada
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I don't know if it's true or not, but I'd heard that the reason for this is
that there's little market in the States for sell thru videos of TV shows
and movies. That the American psyche is more directed towards video rental
than in collecting the critters on sale and are more likely to simply tape
straight from the TV than shell out cash for the packaged version. Whereas
your average Brit will happily dole out the money to add to their tape
collection. That's the excuse from TPTB anyhow. Over here, it's gotten
highly unusual *not* to find your favorite TV show on sale in the high
street. We've kinda gotten to expect it and are disappointed and surprised
when we discover our favorite show isn't on the shelves. The BBC in
particular has lead the explosion in recent years. A nice little earner for
'em. <g>

Did someone ask on the list why BEST MEN's release was delayed in the US and
query why it premiered in Europe first? Or am I getting confused with
someone who mailed me personally? <g> Whatever - I'd heard recently that the
reason for this was that the gay rights lobby in the States had kicked up a
fuss over a straight guy playing a gay character and spooked the
distributors. Can't imagine that's so, as loads of straight actors have
played gay characters in the past. Anyone got any gen?

LabRat :-)
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Hi Everyone,

Well, skip week is over and we hope you'll be able to join us Saturday,
October 17, 1998, for our fanfic writing session.

In this week's story it's Lois's and Clark's anniversary and they have plans
for a *private* celebration.  Unfortunately for them their friends have
other
plans (does that surprise party at the end of AKA Superman ring any bells?
;))
and of course there's the fact that Clark moonlights in tights<eg>. Will
Lois
and Clark find a way to spend quality time together ?

We would still like to hear from you if you have any story premises of your
own that you would like us to explore together.  You can either email them
to
me at:

        eraygun@aol.com

Or better still, just bring your ideas with you when you join us this
Saturday
or for our weekly "story bouncing" sessions on Wednesdays on #L&CFicOrg,
starting around 9:00 PM EDT.

We generally meet Saturdays starting at 3 PM EDT and try to start writing
fairly soon thereafter.  You can come and join the fun at any time, however.
We are usually there for several hours since writing a story takes time.

Since #L&CFanfic is on occasion "invite only" please message if you want to
join us.  If an official "inviter" is designated, we will let you know.
Some
of us should be hanging out on #Loiscla.

A note on procedure here ;) : When people need to be caught up on the story
in
progress after being bounced off IRC or just joining the session late,
please
try and avoid pasting the story directly into the channel window.  Please do
that in a private message or dcc-chat window instead.

Hope to see you all there!

Cheers,

Eileen
Eraygun@aol.com
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Hi FoLCies,

Well. if anyone needs the pilot episode in PAL format, WB released that in
the stores in Australia for $14.95 so it is about the only episode
available in Australia unless you are prepared to spend mega bucks for the
UK import tapes <g>.... Anyways, hope this helps somebody. BTW, it is the
UK version pilot =)

Trish
<trish@hotkey.net.au>

"A love that risks nothing is worth nothing" -- Lois and Clark

"I actually like the quest, the search. That's the fun. The more lost you
are, the more you have to look forward to. What do you know? I'm having a
great time and I don't even know it."
-- Ally McBeal
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From:         "Atcliffe, Phillip" <Phillip.Atcliffe@UWE.AC.UK>
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:50:26 -0400 Margaret Brignell
<brignell@CAPITALNET.COM> wrote:

> At 02:35 PM 10/15/1998 -0500, Kathy wrote:
>> I know that tapes of the first season (and the beginning of the
second?)were available for sale in the UK a few years ago.  I don't
know if they still are for sale, or if they were only there for a
limited time. <<

> They were on sale in *Woolworth's* when I was in England last month.
There is *nothing* more frustrating than seeing a bona fide video of
the show you love and not being able to buy it because it won't work on
your VCR!<grrrr> <

Oh, I don't know. How about having those same videos cut off halfway
through the 2nd season, with no indication that any more will ever be
released, so that the _only_ version of later episodes that are
available are appallingly-badly-cut re-runs put on at 0830 on
Saturdays as "kiddy filler" -- with all that that implies in the way of
self-appointed censors running amok?

Phil, who still hasn't seen an uncut version of "Ultra Woman", much
less "Soul Mates" and "Brutal Youth".

PS. Margaret, if you were over here last month, why the *frak* didn't
you tell people?
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Hey guys!

>
>Oh, I don't know. How about having those same videos cut off halfway
>through the 2nd season, with no indication that any more will ever be
>released, so that the _only_ version of later episodes that are
>available are appallingly-badly-cut re-runs put on at 0830 on
>Saturdays as "kiddy filler" -- with all that that implies in the way of
>self-appointed censors running amok?
>
>Phil, who still hasn't seen an uncut version of "Ultra Woman", much
>less "Soul Mates" and "Brutal Youth".
>
While I share absolutely your annoyance and irritation with the Beeb, who
seemed determined to leech every ounce of humour, charm and romance out of
LNC - I have to say you're not entirely correct there, Phil!! The Beeb's
versions aren't the only ones available.

SKY has shown the show almost entirely uncut - all except VD, where (for
some weird reason) there was a reversal of fortunes with SKY cutting out the
romp on the bed and the Beeb showing it! Go figure. Maybe the censors
swapped shifts that week. <g>

Certainly, my copies of the episodes shown on SKY match exactly the episodes
brought out on tape by WB and I've no reason to believe that any serious
cuts were made in later episodes either.

LabRat :-)
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From:         Wendy Richards <w.m.richards@HRM.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Looking for a story editor
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I am almost finished writing a story which has been 'in
progress' for about six months, and I'm appealing for
someone to edit it from a plot/technical detail point of
view before it is submitted to the Archive. Very briefly,
it is a first-season story which takes a 'what-if' look at
Superman's first return from stopping the asteroid in All
Shook Up.

There are three main requirements I should make clear:

1) It is a very long story - about 70 pages in MS Word, so
you're going to have to have patience with long stories!

2) Part of the plot involves Lois becoming pregnant. I have
never been pregnant, so I am looking for a volunteer who
has herself had a baby or whose spouse has - I need to be
sure that any details relating to the course of a normal
pregnancy are accurate.

3) It would be very helpful to me to have a volunteer to
who is able to accept attachments in MS Word, or a
text-file attachment. With a story of this length, breaking
it up into parts to send in the body of emails would be
difficult!

If there is a kind soul out there who thinks that these
requirements are not too onerous, I would be delighted to
hear from you! Please mail me privately.

Best wishes, and thanks,

Wendy
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Wendy Richards
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Hello,

Its me again.  I have a question.  Does anybody happen to know where the
Superman obsession test is?  I remember seeing it a few weeks ago when I
was on the net around 2 a.m., and I can't remember where it was.  Does
anyone even know what test I am referring to?  I remember the highest
score is a 30 something and i got a 34, meaning that I am 100% obsessed,
I remember that the lowest score said something about running for your
life from the mob of angry FoLC.  Well, a friend wanted to see it, but I
can't find it.

Ok well I have to go to class now, bye all.

Julie

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Hey guys!

Can anyone give me advice on how to download messages from the archive?
Usually I just hit 'save as' when I want to save something online to disk
and it comes out just fine. This doesn't seem to work with the list. I'm
especially keen to save to disk the fanfic I've missed.

Hoping you guys can help!

LabRat :-)

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All right, I guess I'll jump right in. My most prized Superman item is my
Superman action figure that I have hanging from my rearview mirror. My mom
bought it for me shortly after learning my aunt and uncle were lending me
their extra car as a Christmas gift. Short and sweet, but it does bring me
good luck. I have yet to get a ticket. (Although someone might tell me why I
seem to be a magnet for being stopped for doing nothing...It's like police
see
my 1983 Celica and a young person driving it and immediately think I am up
to
no good...I hate stereotypes.)

Jess~
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It's me again.

Ok, does everyone remember that story that I said I have been writing
for 2 years now?  Well, I finally got my computer up and working and so
I put the story on a disk and put it on this computer.  I ran spell
check and, of course, my spelling is absolutely horrible to start with,
so it made sense to me that the computer would tell me that every other
word was spelled wrong.  But, I noticed that I spelled Dr. 'Kline'
several different ways, Kline, Klien, Klein, Clien, Cline, Clein, Claen
(I'm not too sure where I came up with some of them <g>).

So, how is it really spelled?  Were any of my guesses right?  Please,
someone let me know.

Julie

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 18:50:17 EDT
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>>>So, how is it really spelled?  Were any of my guesses right?  Please,
someone let me know<<<<

Being the prez of the Bernie Klein fan club (tee hee ;) this is direct from
the ABC files (ick) "Kenneth Kimmins as Dr. Klein"  It's also spelled out in
more than one episode, Stop the Presses, for example.

Zoomway@aol.com (Klein is the man! ;)
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A fan would like copies of Futuresport and Dogboys, please respond to him
PRIVATELY at his e-mail address: sawrajsingh@hotmail.com

Zoomway@aol.com
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At 03:27 PM 10/16/98 PDT, julie slisz wrote:
>But, I noticed that I spelled Dr. 'Kline'
>several different ways, Kline, Klien, Klein, Clien, Cline, Clein, Claen
>So, how is it really spelled?  Were any of my guesses right?  Please,
>someone let me know.

Julie, it's Klein, your third choice.

Sheila
sharper@cncc.cc.co.us
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Julie,

    Hi there.  Well, I believe that Dr. Klein's name is spelled "Dr. Klein"
<g>.  His first name is Bernard, in case you need to know that.  Good luck
with your story, btw.  Take care.

                        Erin V.
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Zoomway changed her the way website looks, and being the slow person I
am I can't figure out how to get to her message boards.  Could someone
help me?

K.C.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1998 20:32:05 EDT
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In a message dated 10/16/98 7:29:20 PM Central Daylight Time,
miracles4me@HOTMAIL.COM writes:

<< Zoomway changed her the way website looks, and being the slow person I
 am I can't figure out how to get to her message boards.  Could someone
 help me?
  >>

Look at the uppermost bar on the screen (I think it's red on on most browers
;) and the message board link is there.  The nfic message board, however,
still isn't back up, so you'll have to be patient on that one.

Zoomway@aol.com
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I guess my 27 tapes of the episoes is my most przed possession! ( I'm
missing 2 eps) (and soem of them I'm missing half) but they are still my
fave L& possession

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At 08:51  15/10/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>At 3:22 PM +0200 10/15/98, Celia M Carvalho wrote:
>
>
>>>I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the eps are for sale anywhere
>or if
>>>it's possible to get hold of them some way...?
>>>It would be very much appreciated if someone could help.
>>>Oh, yes... just another thing. Our VCR system is different from the
>American,
>>>which complicates things even more.
>>
>>The fact that you aren't on the American system does complicate things.
>>L&C is on in reruns in the US on TNT, and you might find someone who would
>>be willing to tape those few episodes for you if you offer to reimburse=
 the
>>costs.  However, if you can't read those tapes, it won't do you much good.
>>
>>Does Portugal use the same VCR system as the UK or other European
>>countries? Or Australia?  If so, you might want to direct your plea to
>>European or Australian FoLCs who might be able to  copy their existing
>>tapes of those episodes for you.  Since you are only looking for six
>>specific episodes, you might have an easier time of it than someone asking
>>for tapes of an entire season.
>>
>>I know that tapes of the first season (and the beginning of the second?)
>>were available for sale in the UK a few years ago.  I don't know if they
>>still are for sale, or if they were only there for a limited time.
>>
>>Good luck!
>>
>>Kathy (as US folc with a full set up tapes but only one VCR.)
>
>
>
>As far as I'm aware, the WB tapes are still on sale here in the UK in PAL
>format, although the Pilot can be a little trickier to track down than the
>others. But it depends which episodes you're looking for, Celia (sorry
>missed your original post). WB pulled the plug on us after tape 13
>(TOGOM/BFTB/SG) when LNC was cancelled. So we only ever made it to midway
>through season two. Which was a pity because although in places the
>packaging was extremely sloppy (transposed episode titles/wrong episode
>titles on the covers) they were done in really neat white cases with the S
>shield on them and look really cool on my video shelves. Would have liked=
 to
>have had a full set.>
>
>LabRat :-)
>>______________________
>>Kathy Brown
>>kathyb@fgi.net
>>KathyB on IRC
>>______________________

does anyone know if there are any ep tapes here in Canada??? Or 'bout the
S'man soundtrack? or Deans "best man" movie?  WHY IS IT ALWAYS the UK.???
Why?!?!?
>
>

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In a message dated 98-10-16 16:14:05 EDT, LL3692@AOL.COM writes:

<< All right, I guess I'll jump right in. My most prized Superman item is my
 Superman action figure that I have hanging from my rearview mirror. My mom
 bought it for me shortly after learning my aunt and uncle were lending me
 their extra car as a Christmas gift. Short and sweet, but it does bring me
 good luck. I have yet to get a ticket. (Although someone might tell me why
I
 seem to be a magnet for being stopped for doing nothing...It's like police
see
 my 1983 Celica and a young person driving it and immediately think I am up
to
 no good...I hate stereotypes.) >>

No, Jess, it's that Superman action figure. They all see it and stop you
'cause they want a better look. They are jealous. <g>

--Laurie
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You can get the soundtrack from=20
 www.cdnow.com
hope that helps some,
Martha
(Supermav)
At 08:49 PM 10/16/98 -0400, you wrote:
>At 08:51  15/10/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>>At 3:22 PM +0200 10/15/98, Celia M Carvalho wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the eps are for sale anywhere
>>or if
>>>>it's possible to get hold of them some way...?
>>>>It would be very much appreciated if someone could help.
>>>>Oh, yes... just another thing. Our VCR system is different from the
>>American,
>>>>which complicates things even more.
>>>
>>>The fact that you aren't on the American system does complicate things.
>>>L&C is on in reruns in the US on TNT, and you might find someone who=
 would
>>>be willing to tape those few episodes for you if you offer to reimburse=
 the
>>>costs.  However, if you can't read those tapes, it won't do you much=
 good.
>>>
>>>Does Portugal use the same VCR system as the UK or other European
>>>countries? Or Australia?  If so, you might want to direct your plea to
>>>European or Australian FoLCs who might be able to  copy their existing
>>>tapes of those episodes for you.  Since you are only looking for six
>>>specific episodes, you might have an easier time of it than someone=
 asking
>>>for tapes of an entire season.
>>>
>>>I know that tapes of the first season (and the beginning of the second?)
>>>were available for sale in the UK a few years ago.  I don't know if they
>>>still are for sale, or if they were only there for a limited time.
>>>
>>>Good luck!
>>>
>>>Kathy (as US folc with a full set up tapes but only one VCR.)
>>
>>
>>
>>As far as I'm aware, the WB tapes are still on sale here in the UK in PAL
>>format, although the Pilot can be a little trickier to track down than the
>>others. But it depends which episodes you're looking for, Celia (sorry
>>missed your original post). WB pulled the plug on us after tape 13
>>(TOGOM/BFTB/SG) when LNC was cancelled. So we only ever made it to midway
>>through season two. Which was a pity because although in places the
>>packaging was extremely sloppy (transposed episode titles/wrong episode
>>titles on the covers) they were done in really neat white cases with the S
>>shield on them and look really cool on my video shelves. Would have liked=
 to
>>have had a full set.>
>>
>>LabRat :-)
>>>______________________
>>>Kathy Brown
>>>kathyb@fgi.net
>>>KathyB on IRC
>>>______________________
>
>
>
>does anyone know if there are any ep tapes here in Canada??? Or 'bout the
>S'man soundtrack? or Deans "best man" movie?  WHY IS IT ALWAYS the UK.???
>Why?!?!?
>>
>>
>
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>does anyone know if there are any ep tapes here in Canada??? Or 'bout the
>S'man soundtrack? or Deans "best man" movie?  WHY IS IT ALWAYS the UK.???
>Why?!?!?

Yay!  Another Canadian FoLC!

J=EA=A7s, as far as I know, there aren't any tapes of L&C eps for sale in
Canada and, believe me, I've looked!  I have, however, found tapes of the
Superman movies and the Superman cartoon for sale in some stores recently.
Who knows?  Maybe L&C is next?  I believe that the movie "Best Men" is
coming out on video sometime early next year (someone who knows for sure
can correct me if I'm wrong).  And as for the soundtrack, I ordered it from
a site on the internet at:

<http://www.sonicimages.com>

The soundtrack is entirely instrumental, but I still love it.  It conjures
up a lot of bittersweet memories for me.  Not to mention that there are
some lovely pictures in the insert! ;)

Hope I could be of help.

Karen :)
whose most prized L&C possession would have to be
her black shorts with the 'S' embroidered on the left
leg which she just happened to spot while walking
past the boy's swimwear section at Wal-Mart ;) . . .
that and her autographed pic of Dean <sigh>
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Conditions are dark. The forecast is deadly. Tea, anyone? wrote:

> >>Second place would have to go to two of my Superman action figures.
> They were
> my brother's and mind when we were young.<<

Hmmm...I wonder if my son would notice superman missing from his action
figures???....

j-me :o)
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In a message dated 16/10/98 17:20:49 GMT, you write:

<< Certainly, my copies of the episodes shown on SKY match exactly the
episodes brought out on tape by WB and I've no reason to believe that any
serious cuts were made in later episodes either. >>

I don't think they were cut in the Sky showings of 96 (and 97 for Season 4).
However this summer's reruns on Sky are missing little bits (which even made
it to the BBC original airings).  However they are still better than the
BBC.
Although if you are recording Sky 98, it might also be an idea to hang on to
any BBC evening ones you may have as well.  That way by having both versions
you stand a chance of having the whole episodes.

BTW where has season 4 gone?  After BGDF last Saturday, Sky showed the pilot
on Sunday.

<< I don't know if it's true or not, but I'd heard that the reason for this
is
that there's little market in the States for sell thru videos of TV shows
and movies. That the American psyche is more directed towards video rental
than in collecting the critters on sale and are more likely to simply tape
straight from the TV than shell out cash for the packaged version. Whereas
your average Brit will happily dole out the money to add to their tape
collection. That's the excuse from TPTB anyhow. Over here, it's gotten
highly unusual *not* to find your favorite TV show on sale in the high
street. >>
I also wondered if this had anything to do with the American syndication
market and all those hundreds of channels.  Until 1982 the UK only had 3
channels and until 1988 we only really had 4 channels.  Its only since Sky
came about ten years ago that satellite and cable have taken off in the UK
and
its only now with the advent of digital television are we being promised
hundreds of channels.  So until very recently we were lucky if we got to see
a
tv series twice.  Unlike America who can rely on countless reruns due to the
syndication market.  Perhaps our video markets have evolved accordingly?
Also
maybe for some strange reason the US PTB feel that releasing videos of TV
shows would threaten the syndication market?  What would be the point of
local
stations showing and reshowing series if people could go buy them?  Also
there
is all the copyright factors.  Just a thought so please no one get mad.
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Message text written by "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman
Fanfic"
>The soundtrack is entirely instrumental, but I still love it.  It conjur=
es
up a lot of bittersweet memories for me.  Not to mention that there are
some lovely pictures in the insert! ;)<

I have this sound track, too....ordered it from my local popular music
store....I just love it and play it often, especially while reading Fanfi=
c
>from my screen.
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Hey Rowan!

>In a message dated 16/10/98 17:20:49 GMT, you write:
>
><< Certainly, my copies of the episodes shown on SKY match exactly the
>episodes brought out on tape by WB and I've no reason to believe that any
>serious cuts were made in later episodes either. >>
>
>I don't think they were cut in the Sky showings of 96 (and 97 for Season
4).
>However this summer's reruns on Sky are missing little bits (which even
made
>it to the BBC original airings).  However they are still better than the
BBC.
>Although if you are recording Sky 98, it might also be an idea to hang on
to
>any BBC evening ones you may have as well.  That way by having both
versions
>you stand a chance of having the whole episodes.

I think I've got every version possible, Rowan! <g> The original re-runs
>from SKY (well most of them, which is when I fell in love with the show),
the evening BBC ones, the recent reruns - and a few I begged from FoLCs who
were kind enough to mail me tapes of episodes I'd missed after receiving
begging letters from a complete stranger they'd never met before. FoLCs -
don't ya just love 'em? BTW, do you know that SKY even restored a tiny
missing snippet from TOGOM which was snipped out of the WB version? I'd
always suspected something was missing because the background music track
skips in the middle of the scene. And, lo and behold, there it was on the
SKY repeat. Nothing exciting unfortunately!

>BTW where has season 4 gone?  After BGDF last Saturday, Sky showed the
pilot
>on Sunday.

Yes - and I had my video all set up ready to go too. Don't quote me, but I
suspect the reason is that SKY doesn't hold the rights to season 4 right
now. That'd be my bet. Suppose I could go back to taping from the start
again - or would that be obsessive.......?!?
>
><< I don't know if it's true or not, but I'd heard that the reason for this
is
>that there's little market in the States for sell thru videos of TV shows
>and movies. That the American psyche is more directed towards video rental
>than in collecting the critters on sale and are more likely to simply tape
>straight from the TV than shell out cash for the packaged version. Whereas
>your average Brit will happily dole out the money to add to their tape
>collection. That's the excuse from TPTB anyhow. Over here, it's gotten
>highly unusual *not* to find your favorite TV show on sale in the high
>street. >>
>I also wondered if this had anything to do with the American syndication
>market and all those hundreds of channels.  Until 1982 the UK only had 3
>channels and until 1988 we only really had 4 channels.  Its only since Sky
>came about ten years ago that satellite and cable have taken off in the UK
and
>its only now with the advent of digital television are we being promised
>hundreds of channels.  So until very recently we were lucky if we got to
see a
>tv series twice.  Unlike America who can rely on countless reruns due to
the
>syndication market.  Perhaps our video markets have evolved accordingly?
Also
>maybe for some strange reason the US PTB feel that releasing videos of TV
>shows would threaten the syndication market?  What would be the point of
local
>stations showing and reshowing series if people could go buy them?  Also
there
>is all the copyright factors.  Just a thought so please no one get mad.

Excellent point, actually! You may just be bang on the button there.

LabRat :-)
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someone said that the CD is instrumental... but is lois singing on it?
yet another dumb question oh well...=20

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Sure, the CD is instrumental, but Lois isn't singing on it.  (Not that she
shouldn't anyway)  Actually they took off most of the people singing on it.
Like on Clark's Salsa when he's getting ready for his and Lois' first date?
There's supposed to be a guy singing (well, chanting) on the track like they
did in the episode, but no dice there either.  The guy's voice magically
disappeared.  This probably relates nothing to your question whatsoever.  I
hope this does answer your question, though!
-Rachel  :)
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In a message dated 10/16/98 5:56:18 PM, Larus2407@AOL.COM writes:

<<No, Jess, it's that Superman action figure. They all see it and stop you
'cause they want a better look. They are jealous. <g>

--Laurie>>

ROTFLMAO!! Thanks for the laugh Laurie!

Jess~
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Sheryl, my room mate here at college keeps asking me questions.  She
likes Lois and Clark, almost as much as I do, and she asks so many
questions.  I have been able to answer all but one of them.

Her question:  Why is Clark's middle name Jerome?

Oh and thanks everyone for answering my spelling question.

Julie

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>>>>Like on Clark's Salsa when he's getting ready for his and Lois' first
date?  There's supposed to be a guy singing (well, chanting) on the track
like they did in the episode, but no dice there either.  The guy's voice
magically disappeared. <<<<<

I think "That Guy" chanting is really Jim Carrey.  Also I believe the
reason it is just the instumental songs is because it is the "Lois and
Clark Soundtrack" the songs that only identify LnC the show, the
characters, & the mood, not the songs sung on Lois and Clark.  Although
those songs.. Teri singing, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Eric Clapton are great, I
really appreciate the beauty and talent of Jay Gruska and the songs that
bring bittersweet memories to me too.  Memories of why this show was so
special and why it continues to be.  My husband and I fall asleep every
night listening to 6 or so tracks programed and repeated all night long.
(It aids in the sweet Deans..err.. I mean sweet dreams process hehehe)
It is a beautifully composed soundtrack and any FoLC should have a copy.
Just my 2 cents since I haven't posted in about 2 months UGH!!!

Cassie
KryptnCAS   aka   ThreeDjr. :)
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I agree completely.

I think the CD is a much better success than it would've been if they had
used
lyric songs instead of the instrumental ones.  It adds so much more emotion
to
the lives of Lois and Clark.  Adds much more meaning, if you get my drift.
I
think many more people appreciate Jay Gruska's score more than they ever
have
now.
-Rachel  :)
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>Her question:  Why is Clark's middle name Jerome?
>
>Oh and thanks everyone for answering my spelling question.
>
>Julie
>

Sorry, I don't have your answer, Julie - but your question has reminded me
of something I have always been curious about and that is the thread of
alliteration which runs through the Superman story (Lois Lane, Lex Luthor,
Lana Lang, etc.)

Anyone know why this is so? I have a very vague recollection of reading
something years ago about it being an in joke between the creaters of the
characters. Although that could be entirely spurious. My memory has enough
trouble recalling events which happened last week. Ask it to check out
something from years back and it has a tendancy to panic and make it up as
it goes along. <g>

LabRat :-)

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to anyone who cares Lana and I have the same last name! (lang!) wow!

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At 10:29 PM 17/10/98 +0100, you wrote:
>>Her question:  Why is Clark's middle name Jerome?
>>
>>Oh and thanks everyone for answering my spelling question.
>>
>>Julie
>>
>
>
>Sorry, I don't have your answer, Julie - but your question has reminded me
>of something I have always been curious about and that is the thread of
>alliteration which runs through the Superman story (Lois Lane, Lex Luthor,
>Lana Lang, etc.)
>
>Anyone know why this is so? I have a very vague recollection of reading
>something years ago about it being an in joke between the creaters of the
>characters. Although that could be entirely spurious. My memory has enough
>trouble recalling events which happened last week. Ask it to check out
>something from years back and it has a tendancy to panic and make it up as
>it goes along. <g>

My understanding was that initially it was coincidental, but that later on,
it became an in-joke... so that in the comics, Superman had girlfriends
Lois Lane, Lana Lang, Lyla Ler-Rol (on Krypton when he went back into the
past - she was a movie star, I think), Lori Lemaris (who was a mermaid),
and a cousin, Linda Lee (Supergirl, who, upon adoption became Linda Lee
Danvers, or eventually, just Linda Danvers) - can anyone think of any other
LLs (apart from the more obvious Lex Luthor)?
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At 11:40 AM 17/10/98 PDT, you wrote:
>Sheryl, my room mate here at college keeps asking me questions.  She
>likes Lois and Clark, almost as much as I do, and she asks so many
>questions.  I have been able to answer all but one of them.
>
>Her question:  Why is Clark's middle name Jerome?
>
>Oh and thanks everyone for answering my spelling question.
>
>Julie

I am pretty sure this is only in the TV version of the story.  I have a
vague recollection that in the comics, his middle name may be Joseph, but I
could be wrong on that.  At any rate, both names are from Superman's
creators, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.  You may also note that Perry
White's son's name is Jerry, and the implication was that he's using his
middle name - that both mens' names are Perry Jerome White. (Is Perry short
for anything?)

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At 08:53  18/10/98 +1000, you wrote:
>At 11:40 AM 17/10/98 PDT, you wrote:
>>Sheryl, my room mate here at college keeps asking me questions.  She
>>likes Lois and Clark, almost as much as I do, and she asks so many
>>questions.  I have been able to answer all but one of them.
>>
>>Her question:  Why is Clark's middle name Jerome?
>>
>>Oh and thanks everyone for answering my spelling question.
>>
>>Julie
>
>I am pretty sure this is only in the TV version of the story.  I have a
>vague recollection that in the comics, his middle name may be Joseph, but I
>could be wrong on that.  At any rate, both names are from Superman's
>creators, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.  You may also note that Perry
>White's son's name is Jerry, and the implication was that he's using his
>middle name - that both mens' names are Perry Jerome White. (Is Perry short
>for anything?)
>
>--

I one heard that Superman was origionally created by a Canadien.. then since
noone read the comic he sold his ideas to someone else??/ Is this true??=20

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At 08:45 PM 17/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>At 08:53  18/10/98 +1000, you wrote:
>>At 11:40 AM 17/10/98 PDT, you wrote:
>>>Sheryl, my room mate here at college keeps asking me questions.  She
>>>likes Lois and Clark, almost as much as I do, and she asks so many
>>>questions.  I have been able to answer all but one of them.
>>>
>>>Her question:  Why is Clark's middle name Jerome?
>>>
>>>Oh and thanks everyone for answering my spelling question.
>>>
>>>Julie
>>
>>I am pretty sure this is only in the TV version of the story.  I have a
>>vague recollection that in the comics, his middle name may be Joseph, but=
 I
>>could be wrong on that.  At any rate, both names are from Superman's
>>creators, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.  You may also note that Perry
>>White's son's name is Jerry, and the implication was that he's using his
>>middle name - that both mens' names are Perry Jerome White. (Is Perry=
 short
>>for anything?)
>>
>>--
>
>
>I one heard that Superman was origionally created by a Canadien.. then=
 since
>noone read the comic he sold his ideas to someone else??/ Is this true??=20
>
>********
>=A4~J=EA=A7s~=A4
>********

Not quite. One of the guys who created Superman (I can never recall which
one it was) was born in Canada and lived there for a few years.  Then he
and his family moved to Cleveland, where he met the other creator in
school.  Remember that the "men" who created Superman were only 14-15 when
they did so!  They were involved in fandom in a number of ways, including
writing a story with a "superman" in it years before Kal-El was invented,
although from what I've read that original "superman" was a villain, and
nothing like the final version.
THey did shop around the concept of Superman (as he eventually turned out)
for a while before they found a publisher for the story.  That publisher
eventually became DC Comics.  There are plenty of other history books out
there that could give you more info on this subject, and probably more
accurately than I could!

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Hi again,

Since my email yesterday asking for a volunteer to edit a
new fanfiction of mine, I have had several very kind
offers and have decided to accept the two which most
closely matched what I was looking for. To everyone who
offered, or was going to, my sincere thanks - I know it
isn't an easy thing to contemplete editing 70 pages!

And BTW, some people asked how my surgery went: the op
itself was fine and I am more or less up and about. Still
sore, swollen and forbidden to drive or lift too many heavy
items, but... and is this a hint?... I am at my most
comfortable when sitting at the PC...

Thanks again, and best wishes to everyone,

Wendy

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At 08:53 18/10/98 +1000, you wrote:
>
>I am pretty sure this is only in the TV version of the story.  I have a
>vague recollection that in the comics, his middle name may be Joseph, but I
>could be wrong on that.

The Titan Books publication 'Superman, The Wedding and Beyond' - the
omnibus of the set of comics from Lois's return to Metropolis (and Clark)
to the action-packed  honeymoon<wg> (ISBN 1-85286-795-7):  The back cover
is the wedding invitation, not shown in the original DC comic.  The point
of this post is that it shows names as:-

Clark Joseph Kent
Lois Joanne Lane

So I think we can credit the LNCTNAOS writers with 'Jerome'

Cheers for now

Jenny

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LL: Yes, and I'm stuck in traffic                                       -
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At 12:56 PM 10/18/1998 +1000, Jenny Stosser wrote:
>Not quite. One of the guys who created Superman (I can never recall which
>one it was) was born in Canada and lived there for a few years.

It was Joe Shuster, a relative of Frank Shuster (of Wayne& Shuster fame).
I can never remember the relationship, they were either cousins or
nephew/uncle.

> Then he
>and his family moved to Cleveland, where he met the other creator in
>school.  Remember that the "men" who created Superman were only 14-15 when
>they did so!

The Toronto Daily Star says Joe worked for the Daily Star as a newspaper
delivery boy (Frank Shuster says Joe used his experience there as
background material for the Metropolis Daily Planet).

I'm not sure what age Joe would have been when he moved to Cleveland.  I'd
kind of assumed 14 or 15 (old enough to have been a newspaper boy in
Toronto, and then to start a new venture with a friend in Cleveland).
Anyone know for sure?

Margaret

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No Name Available wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-10-16 16:14:05 EDT, LL3692@AOL.COM writes:
>
> << All right, I guess I'll jump right in. My most prized Superman item is
my
>  Superman action figure that I have hanging from my rearview mirror. My
mom
>  bought it for me shortly after learning my aunt and uncle were lending me
>  their extra car as a Christmas gift. Short and sweet, but it does bring
me
>  good luck. I have yet to get a ticket. (Although someone might tell me
why I
>  seem to be a magnet for being stopped for doing nothing...It's like
police
> see
>  my 1983 Celica and a young person driving it and immediately think I am
up to
>  no good...I hate stereotypes.) >>
>
> No, Jess, it's that Superman action figure. They all see it and stop you
> 'cause they want a better look. They are jealous. <g>
>
> --Laurie

My favorite is my sterling silver superman ring at bought at the Warner
Brothers Store at a mall in Houston for only $28.  Last week it came off
in my pocket and I thought I had lost it.  My husband took me to the
Mall and bought me another one (I had planned to pay for it myself, but
he insisted).  As soon as I got home I found the other ring by going
through my pockets.  It is a nice shield and does not have any
projections to catch on things.  My problem is that I needed a half size
and it only comes in whole sizes.  Also since it is not Rhodium covered
I have had to live with a silver polishing cloth which I keep in my car
jewelery bag.

Jacqueline
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Jê§s wrote:
>
> At 08:51  15/10/98 +0100, you wrote:
> >>At 3:22 PM +0200 10/15/98, Celia M Carvalho wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>I was wondering if anyone could tell me if the eps are for sale
anywhere
> >or if
> >>>it's possible to get hold of them some way...?
> >>>It would be very much appreciated if someone could help.
> >>>Oh, yes... just another thing. Our VCR system is different from the
> >American,
> >>>which complicates things even more.
> >>
> >>The fact that you aren't on the American system does complicate things.
> >>L&C is on in reruns in the US on TNT, and you might find someone who
would
> >>be willing to tape those few episodes for you if you offer to reimburse
the
> >>costs.  However, if you can't read those tapes, it won't do you much
good.
> >>
> >>Does Portugal use the same VCR system as the UK or other European
> >>countries? Or Australia?  If so, you might want to direct your plea to
> >>European or Australian FoLCs who might be able to  copy their existing
> >>tapes of those episodes for you.  Since you are only looking for six
> >>specific episodes, you might have an easier time of it than someone
asking
> >>for tapes of an entire season.
> >>
> >>I know that tapes of the first season (and the beginning of the second?)
> >>were available for sale in the UK a few years ago.  I don't know if they
> >>still are for sale, or if they were only there for a limited time.
> >>
> >>Good luck!
> >>
> >>Kathy (as US folc with a full set up tapes but only one VCR.)
> >
> >
> >
> >As far as I'm aware, the WB tapes are still on sale here in the UK in PAL
> >format, although the Pilot can be a little trickier to track down than
the
> >others. But it depends which episodes you're looking for, Celia (sorry
> >missed your original post). WB pulled the plug on us after tape 13
> >(TOGOM/BFTB/SG) when LNC was cancelled. So we only ever made it to midway
> >through season two. Which was a pity because although in places the
> >packaging was extremely sloppy (transposed episode titles/wrong episode
> >titles on the covers) they were done in really neat white cases with the
S
> >shield on them and look really cool on my video shelves. Would have liked
to
> >have had a full set.>
> >
> >LabRat :-)
> >>______________________
> >>Kathy Brown
> >>kathyb@fgi.net
> >>KathyB on IRC
> >>______________________
>
> does anyone know if there are any ep tapes here in Canada??? Or 'bout the
> S'man soundtrack? or Deans "best man" movie?  WHY IS IT ALWAYS the UK.???
> Why?!?!?
> >
> >
>
> ********
> ¤~Jê§s~¤
> ********
I think a lot of Americans are like me, waiting for DVD to settle to one
standard (right now there are two incompatible standards) to buy DVD and
hope to get the episodes on disk (tape being so fragile).  Since TV is
going digital here (by around 2002 according to my cable company by an
act of the Federal Communications System (FCC)) it ought to work well.
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Rachel Madden wrote:
>
> I agree completely.
>
> I think the CD is a much better success than it would've been if they had
used
> lyric songs instead of the instrumental ones.  It adds so much more
emotion to
> the lives of Lois and Clark.  Adds much more meaning, if you get my drift.
I
> think many more people appreciate Jay Gruska's score more than they ever
have
> now.
> -Rachel  :)

Most of these people were paid for acting, not singing.  There may be
legal complications using their voices without compensation.  I know
that every time a song is played on the radio a few cents go to the the
ASCAP or something like that acroynm to be split according to whatever
their deal was.  Maybe they have not been able to come to an agreement.
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jamee wrote:
> Well my family thinks I'm regressing back to my childhood because I'm
> constantly looking for  something with superman on it, a keychain,
> p.j.'s anything!! (I tell them it helps me to have something in common
> with my son! The truth is I'm definitly into it more then him! <g>) But
> I can find nothing here in Hawaii!

Have you been to the post office?  They've just put out a Superman
stamp (not too long ago) and there's a number of merchandise items
related to that stamp that the U.S. Postal Service has for sale --
a couple of keychains, a note pad, a set of "cling" designs, and at
least half a dozen other things I'm not remembering at the moment.

I thought it might be possible to order the items online -- the URL for
the post office is:
http://www.usps.gov/
However, when I searched on Superman, I found a couple of articles
about the release of the new stamp (which is part of a pane of 15
stamps about the 1930's -- you can't buy just a sheet of Superman
stamps, unfortunately), and it took a little more digging to find any
ordering information.  From the main page there's a link called
"Store" and from there a link called "Stamps Online".  The direct
link to Stamps Online is:
http://www.stampsonline.com/
You can apparently order the actual stamps from this link (click on
"Purchase Products" to get a phone number, then click on the picture
with the phone number to get an order form), but I'm still not seeing
any place to order the related merchandise.

If anyone would care to search the site more extensively, it's
possible I'm just looking in the wrong place -- let me know what
you find!

Peace

A FoLC Named Peace
Lois & Clark fanfic and a personal love story
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<<Many of these people were paid for acting, not singing.  There may be
legal
complications using their voices without compensation>>

I would agree this is probably true.  Most of them would possibly be irked
if
their voices were used in the Lois and Clark soundtrack without their say in
the matter.  I mean, any of us would, right?

<>

I would say this is a possible answer, too.  Those actors/singers are funny
that way, aren't they?
-Rachel I-have-no-idea-how-you-found-my-last-name Madden  :)
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My most prize possession is my picture of Teri and myself in rockafeller
plaza.  That and the Superman ring my very very best friend gave me.  They
are
the only things unique to my collection.

  - Kate aka Lois_Lane on IRC
#11 signing off
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From:         Bobbett Jascor <erabobbett@JUNO.COM>
Subject:      "Fly Me To the Moon"

Hi!  I know this has probably already been posted, but the last time it
was, I guess I wasn't paying attention.

In the episode "Church of Metropolis", the song at the end of the show,
"Fly Me To the Moon," does anyone know who sings it?  I know there are A
LOT of singers who have recorded the song (I just searched Music Blvd!!),
but who exactly sung it in that episode?

Email me privately if you know the answer.  Thanks.

Also, does anyone know whether there's been any fanfic written that takes
place at the end of this episode?  In other words, starts where what we
see on TV ends?  I found their dancing scene ssssoooooo romantic, that I
would love to read about what might possibly have gone on between the two
of them later that night.

Bobbett
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I believe the performer is Sarah Vaughn.
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Eileen F. Ray wrote:
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Well, skip week is over and we hope you'll be able to join us Saturday,
> October 17, 1998, for our fanfic writing session.
>
> In this week's story it's Lois's and Clark's anniversary and they have
plans
> for a *private* celebration.  Unfortunately for them their friends have
other
> plans (does that surprise party at the end of AKA Superman ring any bells?
;))
> and of course there's the fact that Clark moonlights in tights<eg>. Will
Lois
> and Clark find a way to spend quality time together ?
>
> We would still like to hear from you if you have any story premises of
your
> own that you would like us to explore together.  You can either email them
to
> me at:
>
>         eraygun@aol.com
>
> Or better still, just bring your ideas with you when you join us this
Saturday
> or for our weekly "story bouncing" sessions on Wednesdays on #L&CFicOrg,
> starting around 9:00 PM EDT.
>
> We generally meet Saturdays starting at 3 PM EDT and try to start writing
> fairly soon thereafter.  You can come and join the fun at any time,
however.
> We are usually there for several hours since writing a story takes time.
>
> Since #L&CFanfic is on occasion "invite only" please message if you want
to
> join us.  If an official "inviter" is designated, we will let you know.
Some
> of us should be hanging out on #Loiscla.
>
> A note on procedure here ;) : When people need to be caught up on the
story in
> progress after being bounced off IRC or just joining the session late,
please
> try and avoid pasting the story directly into the channel window.  Please
do
> that in a private message or dcc-chat window instead.
>
> Hope to see you all there!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Eileen
> Eraygun@aol.com
Didn't get onlline until Sunday.  Sorry, I missed.  Let me know next
time.

Jacqueline
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Peace Everett wrote:
>
> jamee wrote:
> > Well my family thinks I'm regressing back to my childhood because I'm
> > constantly looking for  something with superman on it, a keychain,
> > p.j.'s anything!! (I tell them it helps me to have something in common
> > with my son! The truth is I'm definitly into it more then him! <g>) But
> > I can find nothing here in Hawaii!
>
> Have you been to the post office?  They've just put out a Superman
> stamp (not too long ago) and there's a number of merchandise items
> related to that stamp that the U.S. Postal Service has for sale --
> a couple of keychains, a note pad, a set of "cling" designs, and at
> least half a dozen other things I'm not remembering at the moment.
>
> I thought it might be possible to order the items online -- the URL for
> the post office is:
> http://www.usps.gov/
> However, when I searched on Superman, I found a couple of articles
> about the release of the new stamp (which is part of a pane of 15
> stamps about the 1930's -- you can't buy just a sheet of Superman
> stamps, unfortunately), and it took a little more digging to find any
> ordering information.  From the main page there's a link called
> "Store" and from there a link called "Stamps Online".  The direct
> link to Stamps Online is:
> http://www.stampsonline.com/
> You can apparently order the actual stamps from this link (click on
> "Purchase Products" to get a phone number, then click on the picture
> with the phone number to get an order form), but I'm still not seeing
> any place to order the related merchandise.
>
> If anyone would care to search the site more extensively, it's
> possible I'm just looking in the wrong place -- let me know what
> you find!
>
> Peace
>
> A FoLC Named Peace
> Lois & Clark fanfic and a personal love story
> http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7137
You can buy Superman jewelery, cookie jars, all kinds of things from the
Warner Brothers store.  There are only a few you can walk into, but they
are also available on line.  Which reminds me I, just discovered the
Garfield store in time for my sister's Christmas.  One other thing.  The
Warner Brothers Store has sales if you live close enough to walk in.  I
saved 30% when I bought my second superman ring because a jewelry,
shirt, etc, sale was on.  I bought a Superman T-shirt at the same time,
but unfortunately it wasn't on sale.

Jacqueline
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Bobbett Jascor wrote:
>
> Hi!  I know this has probably already been posted, but the last time it
> was, I guess I wasn't paying attention.
>
> In the episode "Church of Metropolis", the song at the end of the show,
> "Fly Me To the Moon," does anyone know who sings it?  I know there are A
> LOT of singers who have recorded the song (I just searched Music Blvd!!),
> but who exactly sung it in that episode?
>
> Email me privately if you know the answer.  Thanks.
>
> Also, does anyone know whether there's been any fanfic written that takes
> place at the end of this episode?  In other words, starts where what we
> see on TV ends?  I found their dancing scene ssssoooooo romantic, that I
> would love to read about what might possibly have gone on between the two
> of them later that night.
>
> Bobbett
> erabobbett@juno.com

Bobbett if you find out what went on, let me know too!

Jacqueline

Maybe this would make a good subject for one of Zoomway's round robbins.
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Hi,

The question being asked is....What is your most prized L&C possession?

That is very easy for me to answer.  My most prized possession from L&C are
the wonderful people I have gotten to know and love.  I have made some very
dear and special friends and it was all because of my love of L&C that I
found
them.
So, it is the friends I have made that I hold dearest to my heart.

Annie Lansbury
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I second the motion Annie.  I've only been with the mailing list for two
weeks
but I feel very lucky to have found it.
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I think Anne and Zoomie also mentioned this before, but it does bear
repeating and me too-ing!

*The* most prized gift L&C has given me is introducing me to the kind,
funny, and creative souls who make up folcdom.  I have made some awesome
friends *and* indulged in my DeanDevotion all at the same time.

The greatest thing for me, is the feeling, you know the waffy one, of
knowing there are good people in the world, lots of 'em *and* they have
great taste in TV shows! Hehe.  Seriously, the feeling is the same after an
 ep, a visit on the channel, a yummy fanfic, or reading the day's
mail--it's sweet, it's simple, it's good.

Thanks FoLCs, fanfiction goddesses, buddies, and lurkers alike!

Maggie
maggie13@bellsouth.net  (aka supermags on IRC)
Clark: Life is short, order what you want.
Lois: Life is long, Clark, and you are
what you eat. Most of us anyway.

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> From: Rebecca Barber-Torroll <BooBooBarb@AOL.COM>
> To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Most Prized Possession from L&C
> Date: Sunday, October 18, 1998 9:36 PM
>
> I second the motion Annie.  I've only been with the mailing list for two
weeks
> but I feel very lucky to have found it.
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From:         Kathy Brown <kathyb@FGI.NET>
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At 8:53 AM +1000 10/18/98, Jenny Stosser wrote:
> You may also note that Perry
>White's son's name is Jerry, and the implication was that he's using his
>middle name - that both mens' names are Perry Jerome White. (Is Perry short
>for anything?)

My answer to why Clark's middle name is Jerome is "why is your name
<whatever>?" <g>  Because his parents must have liked it -- it was never
explained otherwise.  But I agree; I was surprised that it wasn't Jonathan.

Jenny, as to your mention that Perry's son was using his middle name --
what makes you infer that?  I don't remember anything from that episode
(Lethal Weapon) that implied that Jerry was a "junior".   I remember that
Perry's middle name was Jerome (which led to all our jokes about it being
the policy of the Daily Planet to only hire men with that middle name <g>)
and his son was Jerry, but I don't remember any more than that.  Can you
refresh my memory?

Kathy

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At 6:28 PM -0400 10/18/98, Bobbett Jascor wrote:

>In the episode "Church of Metropolis", the song at the end of the show,
>"Fly Me To the Moon," does anyone know who sings it?  I know there are A
>LOT of singers who have recorded the song (I just searched Music Blvd!!),
>but who exactly sung it in that episode?

Yes, many people recorded it, but the version Lois was listening to was
recorded by Dinah Washington.

<<I believe the performer is Sarah Vaughn.>>

Never heard of her ... nope, Dinah Washington is correct.

Kathy

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In a message dated 98-10-18 19:54:11 EDT, you write:

<<
 The question being asked is....What is your most prized L&C possession?

 That is very easy for me to answer.  My most prized possession from L&C are
 the wonderful people I have gotten to know and love.  I have made some very
 dear and special friends and it was all because of my love of L&C that I
found
 them.
 So, it is the friends I have made that I hold dearest to my heart.
  >>
I have been reading all of the responses to the orginal post  for the last
couple of days, but no matter what  L&C prized possessions we have, almost
everyone agrees the number #1 prize is all of the great friends we have
made.
I have to agree with that 100%.  I have collected hundred of L&C, Superman
and
Supeman related items over the last 20 years, but nothing compares to the
wonderful people I have meet my being a L&C fan.

Barbara
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Subject:      Re: More Questions

At 08:53  18/10/98 +1000, you wrote:

>  You may also note that Perry
>White's son's name is Jerry, and the implication was that he's using his
>middle name - that both mens' names are Perry Jerome White.

I never thought of that before!  (I guess that' s why I'm on these lists
<g>)

>(Is Perry short for anything?)

I checked my baby name book and it gives "Perry" as a nickname for
"Peregrine" ("wanderer" in Latin).  I think I like "Perry" better ;-).

Hugs,
Stefanie =)   cute6@juno.com
A well-informed person is somebody who has the same views and opinions as
yours.
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Peace Everett wrote:

> >>Have you been to the post office?  They've just put out a Superman
> stamp (not too long ago) and there's a number of merchandise items
> related to that stamp..<<

As a matter o fact I ended up in the post office the day after I wrote
that post!  My mom was in the car watching my son as I came darting out
of the post office back to the car in search of my wallet!! I'm now the
proud owner of a Superman Keychain, refrigerator magnet, and the cling
designs! YAY!

I loved reading how Jaqueline's husband insisted on taking her to the
mall to get her another Supe's ring right away!! How sweet!  My hubby
surprised me this morning and had put my cling designs of the S shield
and the picture of Clark turning into Superman up on my window in my
office! (we let our son have the one that looks like the stamp for his
room--I have to share!) He also cut out the part that say's Superman
that wasn't ment to be a cling sticker but it's made out of the same
stuff and put that up there too in a very nice arrangement!  Then after
being 'touched' about that all day, I sit down at my computer tonight
and I see that he also cut out the little S sheild and put it in the
bottom right hand corner of my computer screen!  I tell ya, what a
sweetie!

Jamee....who's hubby just told her today that she was his soulmate!!

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names and the circumstances." ~ Julie Mack
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Actually, the first 4 videos in the collection were released in Australia.
I still see them in stores.

jem
(who actually did shell out mega bucks to get the rest of the 13 released)

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From: trish <trish@HOTKEY.NET.AU>
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>Hi FoLCies,
>
>Well. if anyone needs the pilot episode in PAL format, WB released that in
>the stores in Australia for $14.95 so it is about the only episode
>available in Australia unless you are prepared to spend mega bucks for the
>UK import tapes <g>.... Anyways, hope this helps somebody. BTW, it is the
>UK version pilot =)
>
>Trish
><trish@hotkey.net.au>
>
>"A love that risks nothing is worth nothing" -- Lois and Clark
>
>"I actually like the quest, the search. That's the fun. The more lost you
>are, the more you have to look forward to. What do you know? I'm having a
>great time and I don't even know it."
>-- Ally McBeal
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You never heard of Sarah Vaughn?!?
Oh, Kathy..........she was one of the greatest jazz divas of all time. I
heard
her in concert one time.....my heart is still resonating from the sound! <g>
Piper
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I'm feeling really silly now -- this only went to J-mee the first time!

Crystal Wimmer wrote:
> so, what does everyone else out there count as their most
> prized posession??  Anyone??

Oh, that's an easy one to answer -- my most prized L&C acquisition?
My sweetheart, love of my life -- a man by the name of Karl Kingston,
whom I met in the #loiscla chatroom.  :)

Oh, you meant *things*! <g>  Well, that's pretty easy too -- I had
heard about the L&C posters for ages but couldn't find them.  My
dear friend Nancy up in Seattle sent me the ABC promo poster
(with the steam shot on it) and then later I got the "Have you been
to Metropolis lately" poster through eBay Auctions.  I have them
hanging on the wall by my computer desk :::happy sigh:::

Peace
A FoLC Named Peace
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To all you FoLC Moms-

I don't know if this has been done b4...but I was inspired by talk during
NEFF
to try this fanfic idea out.  I always thought that seeing Lois preggers
would
be the funniest and saddies and happiest stories.  But, seeing as I am an 18
yr old who has only been a big sister type and has never been preggers, I
need
help.  If you are intrested in helping me get back into Fic writing, please
e-
mail me privatly at DreamKate1@aol.com.

   - Kate aka Lois_Lane on IRC

p.s. I'm currently playing with the ideas of a spoof on 9months and she's
having a baby
p.p.s Pam, if your reading this, you'd be perfect to help :)
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Y'know, Kate, when I first saw your message in my in-box, all I could see=

of the subject header was "Looking for Mommy's for fanfic idea <" and
thought to myself, hey, I oughtta read that... then I opened it up and sa=
w
the rest of the subject line <g>

There have been a lot of pregnancy stories written, some better than
others, but there's always room for more, I say.

>> seeing as I am an 18 yr old who has only been a big sister type and
has never been preggers, I need help. <<

Very wise!  I can't tell you how many times I've gritted my teeth during
a story because the pregnancy "details" are just plain wrong...  Those of=

you who were involved in S5 or TUFS will doubtless remember me spouting o=
ff
about that very subject <g>

I'll be glad to help you out, Kate, if I have time, between the
Infamous Anklebiter and the new parasite...  You might also find it usefu=
l
to check your local library, see if you can get a copy of "What to Expect=

When You're Expecting"; that covers a lot of detail about when mom feels
kicks, etc.

PJ (also currently known as PregrPam on IRC <G>)
who should respond privately but won't <g> because she wants to
encourage accuracy in this sort of story

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mental patient.  Time traveller, dimension hopper, soul migrator..."
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"You bet your sweet little chumpy I am",
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:22:03 EST
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Subject:      Re: Looking for Mommy's for fanfic idea <--read this Pam J

>> seeing as I am an 18 yr old who has only been a big sister type and
has never been preggers, I need help. <<

< Very wise!  I can't tell you how many times I've gritted my teeth during
a story because the pregnancy "details" are just plain wrong... >

Another possible resource (besides your library- I've noticed librarians
looking at me strangely when I check out certain books for research, whether
it
be for fanfic research or research papers) would be the internet. As with
any
subject, not everything you find is going to be accurate. But one good
resource
is the web site: http://www.westnet.com/~crywalt/pregnancy/ It's a man's
account of his wife's pregnancy and is very detailed and frank. Being a 20
yr
old and never having been pregnant or had any pregnant friends, the web site
helped me in a pregnancy fic I wrote. I think I remember finding out about
this
site in an e-mail advertisement for a S5 episode or something but I can't be
sure. Good luck!

-Christy (kubitc@kenyon.edu)
 who didn't use private e-mail either because at least one other person has
mentioned getting help on pregnancy details in the past week.
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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 06:43:00 +1000
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From:         Jenny Stosser <jenerate@OZRAMP.NET.AU>
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At 10:25 PM 18/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>At 8:53 AM +1000 10/18/98, Jenny Stosser wrote:
>> You may also note that Perry
>>White's son's name is Jerry, and the implication was that he's using his
>>middle name - that both mens' names are Perry Jerome White. (Is Perry
short
>>for anything?)
>
>
>My answer to why Clark's middle name is Jerome is "why is your name
><whatever>?" <g>  Because his parents must have liked it -- it was never
>explained otherwise.  But I agree; I was surprised that it wasn't Jonathan.
>
>
>Jenny, as to your mention that Perry's son was using his middle name --
>what makes you infer that?  I don't remember anything from that episode
>(Lethal Weapon) that implied that Jerry was a "junior".   I remember that
>Perry's middle name was Jerome (which led to all our jokes about it being
>the policy of the Daily Planet to only hire men with that middle name <g>)
>and his son was Jerry, but I don't remember any more than that.  Can you
>refresh my memory?
>
>Kathy

Sorry,
I sometimes get comics and L&C continuities confused.  In the comics,
Perry's son Jerry is known to have used his middle name - his first had
been Perry, too.  Mind you,  there's also some confusion as to whether he's
actually Alice's son (was he Martha's son or something? I forget) and he's
also rather dead.
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:12:13 -0500
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I hate being an adult.  One of the toughest parts of being an
adult is you *have* to make decisions/choices.  And right now,
I'm struggling with a choice that I really don't want to have
to make.  I've been putting this off, procrastinating, and
generally dragging my feet.  Unfortunately, no decision *is*,
in reality, a decision.

As soon as I can hunt down the info, I'm going to unsubscribe
>from the fanfic list.  I no longer have the time in my life to
dedicate to reading this much mail.  The list, and FoLCdom, is
like an addiction, to me at least.  I've tried to break away
>from it in the past.  I usually lurk on the lists, so I tried to
quietly fade away.  I dropped the main LnC list around a year
ago or more.  When I moved, I unsub'ed from all the lists.

I couldn't resist the fanfic list, though, so I signed back on.
Recently, my email address quit working for some reason, and
the bounced mail from my non-working account got my name removed
>from the list.  The list Mom doesn't really like pouring through
hundred's of error messages every day.  :-)

I thought, "Great!"  But to no avail.  I lasted a week and then
resigned up.  My hope is that by going "public", this will cement
the decision to leave the list in my mind and I can make it this
time.

Gosh, this is hard.  The recent grammer/proper english thread is
making it easier though.  :-)  There are only 24 hours in a day,
and there *are* more important things than LnC.  I can think of
three of them right now, and their love means more than anything
to me.  I need to spend more time on some things in my life, and
something had to go.  My plate ranneth over. (One of the first
things I need to do is update my personal web page.  sigh...)

I've had an incredibly great time in FoLCdom.  I don't think I've
ever been so into a show before, and I doubt I will ever allow
myself to do so again.  It was a bittersweet experience, but not
one I regret experiencing.  I feel like I've made some
cyber-friends out there.  I don't really know any of you very
well, but still - I feel like I do know you to some extent.

Thanks for the many kind words I've received in the past.  That's
what makes this all the harder.  I don't plan on yanking my
stories from the archive.  They will stay there as long as they
will have them.  Who knows?  Maybe I'll find some time to write
again.

I'll be thinking of you all.
(I better quit now before my keyboard get wet - sniff...)

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jwbrogden@bigfoot.com          http://www.bigfoot.com/~jwbrogden/
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:16:38 EDT
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Hello,

The Writer's Showcase has a new Featured Writer of the Week.  You can check
it
out at the following URL.

http://www.simplyorganized.simplenet.com/showcase.html

If you would like to suggest someone for the Writer's Showcase please do so.

Annie Lansbury
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:23:56 -0400
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Jenny Stosser wrote:
>
> Sorry,
> I sometimes get comics and L&C continuities confused.  In the comics,
> Perry's son Jerry is known to have used his middle name - his first had
> been Perry, too.  Mind you,  there's also some confusion as to whether
he's
> actually Alice's son (was he Martha's son or something? I forget) and he's
> also rather dead.
> --

In the comics, Jerry White was definitely Alice's son -- but he wasn't
Perry's.  While Perry was away at the wars (Vietnam, I think), Luthor
and Alice had an affair. When Perry came back, Alice left Luthor and
returned to him.  Lex, being Lex, made sure that Perry knew about his
and Alice's affair, but Alice and Perry got married anyway.  Shortly
afterwards, Alice told Perry she was pregnant. (World of Metropolis #1)

Just like in LNC, Jerry White was always in trouble; he and Perry were
frequently at odds.  Jerry was eventually shot, and while he lay dying
in the hospital, Luthor showed up to find out how HIS SON was.
(Superman #49)  Jerry died, and Perry was devastated, both by Luthor's
revelation and Jerry's death.  He took a leave of absense from the
Planet, and managed to put his life and his marriage back together
again.  Later, he and Alice helped care for an orphaned boy (Keith
Robert) and decided to adopt him. (Man of Steel #39)  I wonder how Keith
is doing; we haven't seen him recently.

One thing to remember is that in the comics, Perry and Luthor are
contemporaries.  They knew each other as children, and have never had
any real illusions about the other.

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    Lots of great stuff on my webpage <http://www.erols.com/nightsky>

The World Wide Web has made it possible for anyone to find in five
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:50:54 -0400
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Kate said:

> >> seeing as I am an 18 yr old who has only been a big sister type and
> has never been preggers, I need help. <<

And Pam answered:

> Very wise!  I can't tell you how many times I've gritted my teeth during
> a story because the pregnancy "details" are just plain wrong...  Those of
> you who were involved in S5 or TUFS will doubtless remember me spouting
off
> about that very subject <g>

Some of those details have been quite amusing, however.  One thing to
remember is that each pregnancy, each childbirth is different for
everyone.  I put a lot of details about the labor and delivery in the
final TUFS episode, and for each detail, I'd get comments saying "Yes!
I remember feeling like that -- that is *exactly* what childbirth is
like."  And then someone else would write about the *very same thing*,
saying that it was just totally unrealistic, and no one would actually
do that/feel that way.

I surrounded myself with library books about pregnancy and childbirth to
write that episode.  (Librarians aren't supposed to make judgement calls
about you because of what you check out, BTW.  And when you really get
pregnant, you'll want to *buy* all those books, not just borrow them.)
So get the books, read about pregnancy and decide which symptoms she
would be likely to have.  Once you figure out how she's going to react
physically, you can have lots of fun showing how she (and Clark) react
psychologically to this "delicate condition."

I have to agree with Pam when she said:

> There have been a lot of pregnancy stories written, some better than
> others, but there's always room for more, I say.

Lois being pregnant makes for some great stories, but I'll go out on a
limb and say that I am waiting to read a story showing the other side.
Dr. Klein said they *couldn't* have children -- what if he was right?
How would Lois react to childlessness, especially as the years pass?
How about Clark?  It's funny.  I see Clark as the one who will really be
bothered by the fact that they don't have children.  I expect Lois will
accept the reality of it, and adapt quite well.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 22:46:01 -0500
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From:         Kathy Brown <kathyb@FGI.NET>
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At 6:57 AM -0400 10/19/98, PJ Piasecki wrote:
>You never heard of Sarah Vaughn?!?
>Oh, Kathy..........she was one of the greatest jazz divas of all time. I
heard
>her in concert one time.....my heart is still resonating from the sound!
<g>

LOL, sorry, Piper!  I really haven't, but then, I probably couldn't tell
you any other jazz musicians either. :)

Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:15:59 -1000
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Peace Everett wrote:

> >>I'm feeling really silly now -- this only went to J-mee the first
> time!<<<

OH what do you know it did!!! I just figured it was posted to the list,
I didn't even look at the top to check!!! All this email is great fun,
but I sure get confused *real* easily!!! <g>

> >>My sweetheart, love of my life -- a man by the name of Karl
> Kingston,
> whom I met in the #loiscla chatroom.  :)<<

Wow! That is amazing! It's so neat to think that Lois and Clark brought
you two together! We are always so thankful to them for bringing us such
wonderful entertainment and of course a fun escape from reality!<g> But
for you two it's much more real than that! How wonderfully WAFFY! :)

> >> I had heard about the L&C posters for ages but couldn't find them.
> My
> dear friend Nancy up in Seattle sent me the ABC promo poster
> (with the steam shot on it) and then later I got the "Have you been
> to Metropolis lately" poster through eBay Auctions.  I have them
> hanging on the wall by my computer desk :::happy sigh:::<<

I would love to get some of these for my office!  I guess places like
ebay is the only place to get them now days, right?  It's funny cuz now
that I'm a "grown-up" I can't very well decorate my room or my living
room with posters!  Thank goodness for the computer room, it brings out
the kid in all of us!!!!

j-meeee *:o)

>
>
> Peace
> A FoLC Named Peace
> Lois & Clark fanfic and a personal love story
> http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7137
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 23:26:45 -0500
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From:         Kathy Brown <kathyb@FGI.NET>
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At 6:15 PM -1000 10/19/98, Jamee Jones wrote:
>> >>My sweetheart, love of my life -- a man by the name of Karl
>> Kingston,
>> whom I met in the #loiscla chatroom.  :)<<
>
>Wow! That is amazing! It's so neat to think that Lois and Clark brought
>you two together! We are always so thankful to them for bringing us such
>wonderful entertainment and of course a fun escape from reality!<g> But
>for you two it's much more real than that! How wonderfully WAFFY! :)

Ah, you must be a newer FoLC. :)  Peace and Karl aren't the first FoLC
couple, but I completely agree that it's wonderfully WAFFy!

So far, we've had 3 weddings that I can think of off the top of my head
(Jules & Vip, Dan & Leanne, and *the* WAFFies -- Barb & Jon.)  We also have
one outstanding engagment last I heard -- Allison and Danny (are you guys
out there? Haven't seen you in forever! :))  Have I missed anyone?

There are of course, also several FoLC dating couples, like Peace & Karl,
Kat & Rich, etc.

All of these people met either due to #loiscla (IRC) or a fest (LAFF or
local), and I think it's just so gosh darn romantic. :)

Yay for FoLCdom.

Kathy

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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:12:12 -1000
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Greetings and Aloha,

For any young lady who wants information on pregnancy, unless you are
adopted, Ask Your Mother!  She could probably write a book.  Having been
through it 7 times successfully (4 boys, 3 girls, )and  currently
experiencing the entire gamut of childrearing ( 2 in college, one abroad,
one locally, 2 in high school, 2 in intermediate and 1 in elementaray) there
are things I am learning as a parent that were not covered in all of those
psychology courses I took in college.  Your mother would be the best source
to go to for experience. If she is a working mother like many of us, she can
also clue you in on the problems of dealing with pregnancy on the job.
Peoples attitudes change drastically when you become pregnant.   I was in my
first year of grad school when I became pregnant.   My husband had business
interest he had to attend to in japan.  It was frustrating the flying back
and forth, constantly having to strive harder in order to make up
assignments .  With Clark on the go constantly as Superman, how would Lois
feel  when she is pregnant and alone, needing nurturing and he is out
somewhere saving the world? How will she deal with work? Morning sickness?
Her parents?  A fanfic that I wrote for my daughter once, called "Mothers
and Daughters," deals with lois being pregnant.  A conversation with her
mother reveals that they have more in common than was originally thought.  A
state of grace between the two is achieved when Lois realizes that it wasn't
easy for  her mother, being pregnant,  and married to someone like her
father.  She and her mother become friends, and Lois vows never to make
those mistakes with her children, to cherish and maintain the bonds made
between parent and child.   Their are so many angles you can develope your
story from.  And your mother could be a goldmine of information.  It is also
a way of getting her involved in something that you enjoy. Who knows?  maybe
she may take mote than a cursory interest, and a joint fan fic created by
you and her together may grace these pages.

Mahalo nui loa
"M"
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From: Conditions are dark. The forecast is deadly. Tea, anyone?
<kubitc@KENYON.EDU>
To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
<LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU>
Date: Monday, October 19, 1998 10:24 AM
Subject: Re: Looking for Mommy's for fanfic idea <--read this Pam J

>>> seeing as I am an 18 yr old who has only been a big sister type and
>has never been preggers, I need help. <<
>
>< Very wise!  I can't tell you how many times I've gritted my teeth during
>a story because the pregnancy "details" are just plain wrong... >
>
>Another possible resource (besides your library- I've noticed librarians
>looking at me strangely when I check out certain books for research,
whether it
>be for fanfic research or research papers) would be the internet. As with
any
>subject, not everything you find is going to be accurate. But one good
resource
>is the web site: http://www.westnet.com/~crywalt/pregnancy/ It's a man's
>account of his wife's pregnancy and is very detailed and frank. Being a 20
yr
>old and never having been pregnant or had any pregnant friends, the web
site
>helped me in a pregnancy fic I wrote. I think I remember finding out about
this
>site in an e-mail advertisement for a S5 episode or something but I can't
be
>sure. Good luck!
>
>-Christy (kubitc@kenyon.edu)
> who didn't use private e-mail either because at least one other person has
>mentioned getting help on pregnancy details in the past week.
>
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 20:53:04 -1000
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Kathy Brown wrote:

> >>Ah, you must be a newer FoLC. :)  Peace and Karl aren't the first
> FoLC
> couple, but I completely agree that it's wonderfully WAFFy!<<

Well, a newly out of the closet FoLC!! *LOL* and yes new to this list,
it's possibly been 6 months, maybe less. This list has made me be proud
of what I am! <G>

> >>So far, we've had 3 weddings that I can think of off the top of my
> head
> (Jules & Vip, Dan & Leanne, and *the* WAFFies -- Barb & Jon.)  We also
> have
> one outstanding engagment last I heard -- Allison and Danny

  There are of course, also several FoLC dating couples, like Peace &
Karl,
  Kat & Rich, etc.<<

3 Weddings!  That is so incredibly romantic!  This really is one big
happy family! I had no idea so many were dating or married. And to think
I was so tickled to find out how many FoLCs have just had the chance to
*meet* one another! Amazing! I had learned about Barb and Jon a few
months ago through some posts, but thought that was a rare case! HA!

How many 'Fest's' have there been?  Are they ever going to have another
one?

j-me

>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 15:07:06 +0800
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Hey all!

OK I'm a big fan of the comics, but yesterday someone threw this question
at me which left me completely stumped!

In the new Superman Red/Blue series when both Clarks' are trying to
persuade Lois that they're the real thing, one of them says "Remember that
rainy night in July when we first........"

So I take it this was the first time L&C made love in the comics. My friens
couldn't for the life of him remember the issue that that took place. So he
asked me. I couldn't for the life of me remember either. I've spent the
entire night poring through my comic collection (yes, I'm one of those
strange ones that can't sleep if she can't remember the littlest bit of
trivia!) and still I've come up empty.

So does anyone out there know?

Samantha
- who doesn't look forward to putting her comic book collection *back* into
all those boxes!

_____________________________________________________
The past tempts us, the present confuses us and the
future frightens us - Babylon 5
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Date:         Mon, 19 Oct 1998 21:37:43 -1000
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Would anyone who has the capabilities of making a copy of Futuresport be
willing to sell it to one very bummed FoLC who missed seeing it while on
vacation and even though her wonderful sister taped it for her it didn't
come out!??? (how's that for a run-on sentence?!<g>) If so, email me
privately at: shore@maui.net

thanx!!!

j-me
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In a message dated 10/20/98 2:07:21 AM Central Daylight Time,
lexluthor@PACIFIC.NET.SG writes:

<< In the new Superman Red/Blue series when both Clarks' are trying to
 persuade Lois that they're the real thing, one of them says "Remember that
 rainy night in July when we first........" >>

The line even goes back further to Superman #81 (sept 93) when Clark returns
>from the dead. He tells Lois a lot of things only Clark would know,
including
"..or about that rainy night in July when we first--"  (see, never gets to
finish that line ;)

>>>So I take it this was the first time L&C made love in the comics. My
friens
couldn't for the life of him remember the issue that that took place. So he
asked me. I couldn't for the life of me remember either. I've spent the
entire night poring through my comic collection (yes, I'm one of those
strange ones that can't sleep if she can't remember the littlest bit of
trivia!) and still I've come up empty.<<<

Well, at a 'guess', I'd say The Adventures of Superman #469 (1990)  On the
cover it says "Overload" <g>  The first page shows Lois and Clark making out
in Smallville while a fireworks display is .. exploding overhead.  It's not
rainy, but Lois was there for the holiday weekend I believe, so it could
have
rained ;)  Or, it could have been July of 91 (they were engaged by then)
Or,
the 2nd year of their engagement (92) but that's the last possibility before
Clark croaks at the hands of Doomsday, and since he says the line about the
rainy night in July when he comes back from the dead, it can only be one of
those 3 years (only! ;)

In the aftermath of Doomsday, and while Clark was still dead, Lois was
thinking about the fact that she lost her "best friend, fiance and lover"
when
she lost Clark. So, there's little doubt they were lovers long before they
got
married (good thing since the engagement lasted about 7 years ... well,
there
was the stupid break-up arc ;P)  You can take your pick, 90, 91, or 92.   If
1990, then it was while they were dating, but before they were engaged and
before Lois knew the secret.  It's tough trying to judge this because in the
comics, Lois wasn't the first woman Clark proposed to. In college, he
proposed
to Lori Lemaris (yup, another double L)  It's fairly easy to assume that he
and Lori were not intimate prior to the proposal because she turned out to
be
a mermaid, and Clark had no idea <G>  Anyway, she turned him down.

Zoomway@aol.com
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Hi Samantha

I'm a long time Superman fan. My collection goes back to the early sixties.
On
all the Superman titles since then. I have the same problem when it comes to
some niggling trivia that I can't quite place. I'll search high and low
trying
to find the answer. The size of my collection can make the search last for
days.

I suspect that your search was for naught though. The TPTB in the comics
have
always been very "circumspect"? in portraying the LL/CK relationship, always
fading away when there was any sign of romantic inclinations developing. In
fact they have been much more so since the Byrne revision began in my
opinion.

Since they got married there has been an almost total lack of any sign of a
physical relationship in the comics. I don't remember ever seeing more than
a
chaste kiss. I don't think they have even been shown waking up together in
bed.
Maybe I'm misremembering. Do any other comics fans remember any different?

Bud
budmayes@aol.com
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Why can't you decorate your living room with posters......I have a 40 x 60
of
Empire Strikes Back on my wall.....I also have a mini poster from Tomorrow
Never Dies....When I win a poster from eBay, it is going on the wall too in
my
living room.  Now the 8x10's, that's a different question, they'll go into
my
bedroom in frames <g>

Rebecca
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>>   It's funny cuz now that I'm a "grown-up" I can't very well decorate
my room or my living room with posters!  <<

Hehe, that depends... my husband and I have a very nicely decorated
living room, I admit, but our family room is also known as the media room=

and we have all sorts of posters... Star Trek, Star Wars, ID4, Blues
Brothers, Singing in the Rain, Doctor Who (autographed), and, of course,
Lois & Clark <g> (can you tell we have eclectic tastes?)

But it's a good thing we put them in the family room, 'cause the walls in=

our computer room are totally covered in bookshelves!

PJ
who married a fanboy <g>

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At 10:09 20/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Why can't you decorate your living room with posters......I have a 40 x 60
of
>Empire Strikes Back on my wall.....I also have a mini poster from Tomorrow
>Never Dies....When I win a poster from eBay, it is going on the wall too
in my
>living room.  Now the 8x10's, that's a different question, they'll go into
my
>bedroom in frames <g>
>
>Rebecca
>

Oh how I agree - I won't see 50 again, but my bedroom is decked out with
various LnC posters ('Metropolis', +'steam'), TND and (being a Brit) a Best
Men poster <grin> - I have also just won an autographed pic from EBay (the
'tearing shirt open, season 1' - sorry if I beat you for this; no, I'm not
sorry really!!!)

A 'mature' girl friend viewing my new flat remarked 'She'll be fine, when
she gets past adolescance!!!'  <spelling>

Anyway - we can all enjoy our fave shows, whatever our age.

Jenny

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At the end of a Wonder Woman novel this Sunday I found an add and
orderig slip for a book ($12 + $3 shipping) called Lois and Clark
written by C. J. Cherryh.  I had been to a lot of bookstores during the
last week and did not remember seeing it.  Turns out it had come out in
1997. I called all my local bookstores and no one had it.  I asked my
husband "How would you like to go to Half-Price Books?  I think they may
have a book I want."  We got there a half hour before closing Sunday
night.  In the back where oversized science fiction is found I found a
stack of brand new Lois "and Clark" books for $4.95, but I only bought
one.  I had finished reading it in 24 hours (pretty good for such a late
start, fixing supper, going to work, walking the blind dog, etc.).  I
really enjoyed the book.  Of course it is not sexually explicit the way
many fanzines are, but the story was good.  Cherryh has been writing
science fiction for years, so I don't think that this was a stretch for
her.  I just wanted everyone to know that the book was out there with an
enjoyable story.  Does anyone know of any other L&C good books I may
have missed?

Jacqueline
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Norman Mayes wrote:
>
> Hi Samantha
>
> I'm a long time Superman fan. My collection goes back to the early
sixties. On
> all the Superman titles since then. I have the same problem when it comes
to
> some niggling trivia that I can't quite place. I'll search high and low
trying
> to find the answer. The size of my collection can make the search last for
> days.
>
> I suspect that your search was for naught though. The TPTB in the comics
have
> always been very "circumspect"? in portraying the LL/CK relationship,
always
> fading away when there was any sign of romantic inclinations developing.
In
> fact they have been much more so since the Byrne revision began in my
opinion.
>
> Since they got married there has been an almost total lack of any sign of
a
> physical relationship in the comics. I don't remember ever seeing more
than a
> chaste kiss. I don't think they have even been shown waking up together in
> bed.
> Maybe I'm misremembering. Do any other comics fans remember any different?
>
> Bud
> budmayes@aol.com

I lost my comic collection when my Mother would make me go down and
trade them in at the 2 for 1 store.  I had the very first Supergirl!  I
told my Mother that it is her fault I am not rich because those comics
would be worth a lot today if I had not already read them to pieces.  I
stopped buying Superman comics while in college because I did not have
the money.  Every once in a while I would pick up a Superman comic and
always get the worst one of the year.  I missed all the romance with
Lois and mariage and his death.  Not long ago I picked up 3 Superman
comics.  They turned out to be a to be continued series and don't even
make up one story and cost a lot more than the 10 cents I remember.  I
feel the kids are being cheated because I used to get 3 storie in one
comic and it had twice the number of pages and I could buy 10 comics at
full price with my allowance.  When I see a $9.00 Batman and a $2.95
Superman, I don't know how the kids can afford to read them.  Most of
the people with comic collections that I know now are adults who got
hooked as children.  Children don't read comics like they used to unless
their parents can afford it.  DC gave everyone the impression that Lois
and Clark would never get together because it would kill off the
series.  I would like to read some of the comics I missed, maybe
libraries carry them now that they are becoming art books? I'll look in
the children's room next time I go.

Jacqueline
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This goes in the silly, happy, Folcy things that make me grin section:

I am 25, almost all my life I have decorated the assorted rooms I've
inhabited with pictures of people I admire, including but not limited to
various actors, actresses, friends and artists.

I even used to have a picture of Henry Ford with a quote about persistence,
so just about anything goes.  When I moved to my current little home sweet
home, one of my best friends said, oh now you are going to decorate like an
"adult"
right? ie, no fan posters etc.  And, well, when I started decorating my
room I thought I'd give my friend's notion a try.

We painted my room pink with that rag style of a lighter shade so it looks
like a big pink cloud.  (yes, I do live in my own little universe <g> so
living in a cloud works pretty well for me!)  Anyway, inititally for
decorations,  I had some lovely Thomas Kincaid-looking pictures on the
walls, some framed prayers to inspire me, and pictures of family and
friends on my night table.  Still have those.  However, Lois and Clark
being such an important part of my life, well, I haaaaad to do *something*
and yet, whatever I did couldn't interfere with my current non-poster
living motif.

Sooooo, took myself for a visit to Target, got a lovely painted-gold frame
(11 by 14) printed out my favorite L&C pics (some tattoo ones and the whole
flying series which is my absolute favorite, and assorted ep ones) and made
myself a lovely collage of my favorite couple.  Spent a delightful
afternoon, on IRC one day, cutting and pasting to my heart's content. <g>

Then ofcourse there is the autographed picture of Teri & Dean I printed out
and  framed that sits ever so beautifully on my desk. Which really goes
well with the autographed picture of the cast of JAG I also framed
(got matching frames ofcourse!--I'm a sucker for symmetry!).
And now my room is truly a reflection of me, it's a place where I can feel
peaceful *and* look up and see Dean smiling at me.  Hmmm, no wonder I like
spending so much time here!

So, anyway, my point, (and I, uhm, did have one when I started writing
this!---now, where did I put that thing?!?) oh, yes! Your home is your
sanctuary, the one place where regardless of what's going on in the rest of
the world, you get to make the rules, or even break them as the case may
be.  I say you decorate it with things that inspire you and bring you
either a smile or some much needed peace.

Hmmm,  I guess that would qualify as my 2 cents, except the way I ramble, 2
cents goes a very loooong way ;o)

I love hearing these stories, btw. Decorating and Dean, two of my favorite
topics :o)

Maggie
who has a nice big Superman S in her bathroom even though it totally does
not go with anything, because her definition of living dangerously includes

combining those  primary colors that we know and love :o)

maggie13@bellsouth.net  (aka supermags on IRC)
Clark: Life is short, order what you want.
Lois: Life is long, Clark, and you are
what you eat. Most of us anyway.

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> From: Jenny Mills <j.mills@NETCOM.CO.UK>
> To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
> Subject: Re: TAN: Re: My L&C history; and RE: dumb
> Date: Tuesday, October 20, 1998 4:19 PM
>
> At 10:09 20/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >Why can't you decorate your living room with posters......I have a 40 x
60 of
> >Empire Strikes Back on my wall.....I also have a mini poster from
Tomorrow
> >Never Dies....When I win a poster from eBay, it is going on the wall too
> in my
> >living room.  Now the 8x10's, that's a different question, they'll go
into my
> >bedroom in frames <g>
> >
> >Rebecca
> >
>
> Oh how I agree - I won't see 50 again, but my bedroom is decked out with
> various LnC posters ('Metropolis', +'steam'), TND and (being a Brit) a
Best
> Men poster <grin> - I have also just won an autographed pic from EBay
(the
> 'tearing shirt open, season 1' - sorry if I beat you for this; no, I'm
not
> sorry really!!!)
>
> A 'mature' girl friend viewing my new flat remarked 'She'll be fine, when
> she gets past adolescance!!!'  <spelling>
>
> Anyway - we can all enjoy our fave shows, whatever our age.
>
> Jenny
>
>
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> LL: Yes, and I'm stuck in traffic                                       -
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Rebecca Barber-Torroll wrote:
>
> Why can't you decorate your living room with posters......I have a 40 x 60
of
> Empire Strikes Back on my wall.....I also have a mini poster from Tomorrow
> Never Dies....When I win a poster from eBay, it is going on the wall too
in my
> living room.  Now the 8x10's, that's a different question, they'll go into
my
> bedroom in frames <g>
>
> Rebecca

If a bookshelf goes up a poster or picture comes down.  (And I have half
of the library couch about 2 feet deep in pictures.)  You want to be
very careful with a color picture so that it will not fade out.  Mainly
keeping it from the UV light whether by UV protective plastic/glass or
locating away from daylight and UV generating lamps.  A poster in a
windowless room can last a loooong time.  The reds always go first.
When I realized this problem I bought 2 pictures of Roy Rogers for him
to sign (YEARS AGO) one black and white which I mounted on my wall and
one color which I put in my scrap book.  Black and White photos don't
FADE.  You might want to do this at any autographing session you attend.
Warning, warning, warning, your picture is in danger Will Robinson if
you put it in that photo book with the sticky back gridded with the
semivisible lines to line up photos on.  I used those when I first
entered fandom because you can release pictures and move them around so
I could rearrange my collection as it expanded.  Several fine
autographed photos became permanently attached to those moveable pages
in just a few year (I don't know what part Houston's high humidty had to
do with it).  One of these was my color Roy Rogers autographed glossy
which now also has the grid embeded into it.  So don't use those books
for anything important.  DO protect your posters and photos as much as
you can afford.

Jacqueline
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At 8:53 PM -1000 10/19/98, Jamee Jones wrote:

>How many 'Fest's' have there been?  Are they ever going to have another
>one?

There have been 3 fests in LA, refered to as "LAFF" which stands for "Los
Angeles FoLC Fest".  Those are the ones that had like 100 people in
attendance from all over the world.  (I was never one of them,
unfortunately.)  LAFF could kind of be considered our "national
convention".  The last one was last summer (summer 97), and I haven't heard
of anyone organizing another one.

There have also been many local or regional fests over the years.  The
North East FoLC Fest (NEFF) just had another gathering this month (their
third?).  That one also has a pretty good regional attendance, like 20-30
FoLCs.

Besides that, there are often local fests going on, and those are
wonderful.  In the Great Lakes area (MI, OH, IN, IL, WI), we had been
getting together about once a year until last year, when busy schedules
kept us apart this year.  I hosted one in MI, Rich hosted one in IN, and
Keina/Biz/Kat hosted a few in OH.

I have heard of people in other states/regions getting together also. All
it takes is for one person or a group of people to step up and offer to
coordinate one.  There's no set formula.  The people who coordinated NEFF
and LAFF really did it up, with parties and "field trips", but you don't
have to do that for a smaller gathering.  It can be as simple as a group of
friends getting together to have some fun, eat together, watch some TV and
do lots of talking.

By way of example, when Rich hosted his fest in northern IN, he rented a
hotel room to be our base of operations.  We had a TV and VCR set up, and
everyone was invited to bring episodes, appearance tapes, etc.  We all
chipped in maybe $10-20 to help pay for the room, then paid for our own
sleeping accomdations after that. Rich even got us a discount on the block
of rooms (doubles for the single rate) since there were going to be around
10 of us.  We all brought munchies to share.  We arrived Saturday
afternoon, met in the room, chatted and got to know each other for a few
hours, then went out to dinner at a local restaurant.  We then went back to
the room to watch L&C and Dean/Teri tapes, and talk and gossip some more.
One woman (hi Becky! :)) had made up a packet of L&C puzzles like word
searches with episode titles and trivia quizzes and we had fun trying to
figure those out.  Other people had rare appearance tapes. We also had a
few FoLCs who were more recent fans and hadn't seen first season episodes
(this was before TNT started running the eps).  It was great fun not just
watching those early eps again but seeing the reaction of the FoLCs who
were seeing them for the first time!

We were up until probably 1 or 2 am, then went to bed.  About half the
people left early in the morning, and the other half of us went out to
breakfast before heading our separate ways.

So, my recommendation is, if you are interested in meeting other FoLCs,
offer to host a fest.  Ask around to see who is in your area.  Post a
message that you are considering having a fest in such-and-such city and
would like to see who would be interested.  Then see who responds.  If you
only get 1-2 people in your area, maybe set up a meeting in local
restaurant.  If you get a crowd, discuss what people might like to do.  It
doesn't have to be elaborate.

Kathy

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Hi all :)

Maggie wrote:
> I am 25, almost all my life I have decorated the assorted rooms I've
> inhabited with pictures of people I admire, including but not limited to
> various actors, actresses, friends and artists.
>
> I even used to have a picture of Henry Ford with a quote about
> persistence,
> so just about anything goes.  When I moved to my current little home sweet
> home, one of my best friends said, oh now you are going to decorate like
an
> "adult" right? ie, no fan posters etc.

I was ROTFL when I read this!  It's nice to know there's someone else like
me in the world.  I cannot, no matter how hard I try, "decorate like an
adult"!  My living room and kitchen are "adult enough": family pictures
above the mantel, etc.   But my bedroom and family room are a different
story.  I've put up pictures/posters that inspire me.  Needless to say, Lois
& Clark nearly fill the walls. <g>  But I also have movie sized posters of
Sleepless in Seattle, While You Were Sleeping, and Pretty Woman.  I love to
watch people enter these rooms, because when they see the steam pics of LNC,
their eyes about bug out of their heads.  But what can I say??  A writer
needs to write, and I can't write if I'm not inspired!  (And looking at all
those Dean pics definitely inspire me <vbeg>)

So anyway, I may have to decorate more "grow up" now that I've hit the big
2-9, but I *refuse* to let ALL of the rooms in my house show my age!!! <vbg>

Erin  :)
erink@ida.net

Visit my updated LNC website!  http://www.ida.net/users/davek/
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Date:         Tue, 20 Oct 1998 23:49:22 -1000
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From:         Jamee Jones <shore@MAUI.NET>
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Just wanted to say a quick thankyou to the many who responded about my
request for Futuresport!  Everyone is just so "darn" nice here! I love
it!

j-meeeee
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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 00:36:35 -1000
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BooBooBarb@aol.com wrote:

> >>Why can't you decorate your living room with posters......I have a
> 40 x 60 of
> Empire Strikes Back on my wall.....I also have a mini poster from
> Tomorrow
> Never Dies....When I win a poster from eBay, it is going on the wall
> too in my
> living room.  Now the 8x10's, that's a different question, they'll go
> into my
> bedroom in frames <g><<

Ohhhhh...I don't know! I certainly don't act like a grown up! I really
really like all the fun fan paraphernalia, but as much as I like it, I
really like to decorate my bedroom and living room a different way. I've
never even *thought* of putting up posters and things since I was single
and on my own. I got the idea from all of you, thanx this is fun!!

But I really appreciate having an office to have fun with, and how this
whole "computer age" has allowed us who may not be so bold as to plaster
our little fetishes all over the place. I mean, having the Lois and
Clark theme for my desk top was a big step for me! My husband and I have
this guy friend who is so serious and so, so "rich" and his home looks
like a stinkin' museum, but- you go in his office an amongst all the
museum quality furniture, he's got that 'dilbert  cartoon character
plastered everywhere!

 As far as me putting up the L&C desktop, I thought that my hubby was
gonna have a cow! But he didn't!  He puts up with me, and has even
helped or surprised me in putting some L&C stuff up for me.  I guess if
I were single, I would have the stuff everywhere!  Not I guess, I KNOW I
would!!! Heck, I'd have a giant superman flying on my ceiling! TEE
HEE!!<G>  But now I just don't want to over do it to where my hubby
stops humoring me!  It's okay with me, he's very much worth it!!. :o)

Then Maggie wrote:

>>Your home is your
sanctuary, the one place where regardless of what's going on in the rest
of
the world, you get to make the rules, or even break them as the case may

be.  I say you decorate it with things that inspire you and bring you
either a smile or some much needed peace.<<

This is so true and compared to the way I grew up with all those"rules"
>from my step father, believe me, I break many house rules!!....and I
guess I had to realize this to even allow myself to start putting little
things in my office. I was probably afraid of what people would 'think'.
I don't know anybody 'grown-up' who had posters in any part of there
house!   And  as far as my office, I've only just begun!!! I'm getting a
new poster, I have an old desk,filing cabinet, and book shelf to paint,
and I've just discovered we have a Warner brothers store on the other
side of the island! YAY! This is gonna be fun! Oh and I just snagged
*my* fav of my sons  Supes action figures.  It's the old fashioned
looking one, where he has a plastic covering of a Clark head and body,
and then separate plastic legs that snap over his blue legs and a back
pack to tuck the  cape in.  I've got him with half on half off with the
cape out, kinda like he got mixed up and forgot what he was doing, and I
can really relate to that!!  <G> He's standing on top of my computer!

jamee....who would love some decorating sugestions!

>
>
>
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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 19:23:54 -0400
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From:         Donna Burton <BURTOND@CONAN.UNION.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fests (was re FoLC Love ;)

Kathy, nice summary on festing. I do have to clarify though that this
year's NEFF was the second (biennial) New England Fest. Brave and talented
organizers Jen and Beth did the 96, tackled the 98 and are planning the
Y2K one as well--mark your calendars.  Attendance at the first NEFF (96)
was about a dozen and this year's was 19 (20 registered). I myself have
enjoyed mini-festing with a local folc who went to the same college
where I work...Folcs truly are the best!

Regards,
Donna in Schenectady
burtond@union.edu
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In a message dated 98-10-21 00:09:53 EDT, you write:

<<  there are often local fests going on, and those are
 wonderful.  In the Great Lakes area (MI, OH, IN, IL, WI), we had been
 getting together about once a year until last year, when busy schedules
 kept us apart this year.  I hosted one in MI, Rich hosted one in IN, and
 Keina/Biz/Kat hosted a few in OH. >>

I missed the ones in IN and OH. Drat!!!!!!!!!!
When the next one?

Budmayes@aol.com
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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 21:21:49 EDT
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Hey Gang,

Seeing how the main list is down, I thought I would post here.

I've been working on some new CDs. To check out what they are goto:
http://www.simplyorganized.simplenet.com/annesplace.htm

TTYL
Anne :)
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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 22:32:35 -0500
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At 7:23 PM -0400 10/21/98, Donna Burton wrote:
>Kathy, nice summary on festing. I do have to clarify though that this
>year's NEFF was the second (biennial) New England Fest.

Ah, I was counting the very first NEFF in Scranton, PA (was that in 94??),
also, but you're right, that was organized by a different group of people.

At 8:58 PM -0400 10/21/98, Norman Mayes wrote:
>I missed the ones in IN and OH. Drat!!!!!!!!!!
>When the next one?

Well, as I said, our schedules have all become so busy that we haven't
scheduled anymore.  What I may have forgotten to add to my post, though,
was that if someone wants to attend a local fest, then get out there and
organize one. :)  Everyone tends to wait for someone else to do it and it
never gets done.

Kathy (who once attempted to organize an upstate NY fest with another FoLC
only to receive emails from NYC area people saying "why aren't you having
it in NYC???"   Because we don't *live* in NYC!  Sheesh, talk about
gratitude. ;))

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Date:         Wed, 21 Oct 1998 23:05:17 -0500
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We've been getting questions about S6, so I thought it was a good time to
provide an update.

We had originally hoped to have a mid-October premiere, but we've had to
push that back a month or so due to various "real life" problems.  We have
3 wonderful writers schedule to write our opening two-parter but over
the summer/early fall, one got sent out of state for business, one got
pregnant and was very tired/sick until just recently, and one got sick.
Darn that real life. <g>  However, I have see the plot outlines for our
opening two-parter, and I think you'll agree they were worth the wait. :)

Last year S5 did a wonderful job of getting episodes aired like a real show
would -- eps every Sunday complete with preemptions. :)  Hats off to Leanne
for taking on such a project and making it work so well.

S6 won't be like that, however.  We'll be more a directed series of
fanfics.  Due to busy schedules all around, our motto for S6 is "quality
first, deadlines second" <g>  Luckily, we have outstanding writers on the
project, and I'd much prefer to let them do what they do best even if our
air dates aren't completely predictable. :)

That said, we still hope to release new episodes every 3 weeks or so after
our premiere.  And I'll be sure to keep you all updated on just when that
will be!

Kathy

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