From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG9808B" ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 21:59:09 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Combo post on grammar: Demi, honey, you can skip this :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Leanne Shawler wrote: > While I would argue about the use of the hyphen (*Leanne ducks from Sandy's > thwap -- or was it the "..." you over-used, Sandra?*), I'll turn that aside > for another day (besides, I still make mistakes on that one too) and point > out that in "He shouted" the H should be in lower case.<< Sandra wrote: Are you talking to me, Leanne? Omigod, you called me Sandy. We've reached an epiphany! And then you switched back to Sandra. Oh well.... Sandy, Sandy, Sandy, Sandy, Sandy .... (*Leanne starts humming: "can't you see, I'm in misery ..." ala Revolta in Grease, if you're wondering*) Hope that doesn't send you in to epiphany overload *grin* So, where were we? Oh yeah, it was Joyce, I went momentarily brain-dead there. Did you know there's a Ulysses for Dummies out there on the web? It has pictures and everything *grin* Regina wrote: I agree with Leanne except for 2 points...you certainly can get and hold a job without being able to spell well, at all. Einstein was a horrible speller. Yeah, but he was also a genius :) But you're right -- you can get a job -- I would imagine that spelling wouldn't exactly be a major part of that job; and as I've learnt from my scientific hubby who does some reading for a journal (ie, is this paper scientifically valid?) if the paper's scientifically valid, leave it to the professional editors/copywriters to fix the grammar, spelling etc. Which is good for those wanting to publish in foreign journals! I have to say that when I write, I no longer get up and go to the side of the classroom to check the massive dictionary. I spell-check at the end, or when I get stuck :) However, I do toddle over to the bookshelf to grab the thesaurus if the right word is eluding me and I know I'll know it if I just can see the damn thing. Um Zoom -- you quoted an irrelevant bit of your email re: about emotion or lack thereof. I haven't kept the post, so I guess it doesn't matter now :) but I think it had something to do with my examples lacking emotion, which we've already addressed -- they were examples only and on the fly (both times). If I wanted emotion I would've written a short story to build up to that search ... hmm, did that already in Ep 3 of S5 ... Dan (that's my hubby for those of you who don't know) ribs me about my spelling and takes pride in how simpler the American spelling is: he said "hoo! that was close!" "What?" says I; he says "hoo!" "Don't you mean 'fee-yew'?" "No, that means 'about three'." "You're talking about p-h-e-w, right?" "Yes" "the p-h is 'ff' like in sulfur, which used to be spelt with a ph you know. In fact, when I was in high school, the syllabus changed so that we had to spell it with a 'f' instead of a 'ph'. I couldn't see why, so I never did. :)"; then segue into how American spelling is so much simpler. :) Umm, I think that was a digression :) Genevieve - thanks for the neato post on semi-colons and run-on sentences. I have big troubles with those. Sandy again: On the topic of "alright," I know the S5 writers and editors discussed this, and I remember posting part of the entry from my dictionary which says, ".... Since the 19th century some have insisted that 'alright' is wrong, but, though it is less frequent than 'all right,' it remains in common use and appears in the work of reputable writers ." For my purposes, I find the word, 'alright', to be a much better representation of the spirit of casual dialogue, and that's how I use it. You know, I recently joined another forum (Big Valley) and we lassies are starting to write fanfic for it, and having read Sandra, er --y's, post back then in S5, I threw my "all right" to the wind and started writing "alright" and immediately got taken to task for it *grin* Does this mean I have to go back to "all right"??? *pout* That's all from me for tonight, Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 22:14:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Re: Grammar Check This ;) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980808010041.00aad7d0@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >At 06:14 PM 8/7/1998 -0500, you wrote: >>Demi, ol' buddy, that's what the delete key is for. >>Personally, I've started skimming the posts myself > >"Awww...do I *have* to? Shucks!" > >Kathy you know I do too, it's just that decent unsuspecting folks were >being decimated over... punctuation ;P... and you know me, I just think >there's more to life *and* storytelling > Decimated? Since when is "hey, there's this rule, allow me to explain it" (and then a discussion over the semantics of "smiling") become "decimated"? Demi, it's your perogative if you want to focus on the creative process without regards to convention. And your fic is wonderful, so it really must work for you. However, that doesn't entitle you to be rude to those who actually think that grammar and spelling are a valid part of the writing process *to them*, and prefer not to leave everything to their editors ... Not to mention it being of interest to editors, who also read this list and might like to discuss such technical points! Leanne (who suspects that Demi was being her old flippant, sarcastic self -- but I have been feeling rather decimated just for *daring* to bring a grammar rule to people's attention!) Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 02:00:00 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Leanne, "My little tornado", this is for you too ;) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Combo post on grammar: Demi, honey, you can skip this :)<< Thanks Leanne! :) See guys? (Those of you who wrote to me privately, especially). ;) It's really that simple, yammer loudly at people long enough and they may realize you're a mad-woman, but they *will* start to let you know personally which posts you don't need to read. It's like programmable e-mail filtering, only FREE! I'm sorry, LOL I admit freely that any good writer knows their work has to be polished in the end but I (personally, me, myself, just talking about the first person here) can't discuss those technicalities on the side, with such 'term-paper' detail, it's too painful (for me). Infer from that what you will I didn't mean to suggest that I was attempting to place a global ban on the subject. >However, that doesn't entitle you to be rude to those who actually think >that grammar and spelling are a valid part of the writing process *to >them*, and prefer not to leave everything to their editors ... Not to >mention it being of interest to editors, who also read this list and might >like to discuss such technical points! Oh Leanne.. I'm sorry I offended you. I generally let pretty much everything roll of my back and sometimes I expect that others try to do the same thing. Which isn't always true even though if they did, people might (well, live longer ;) In any event, I really didn't intend to stomp in anyone's bubble bath. I guess I must be the last insane person on the planet because every time I think about the philosophical significance of the 'comma', I just can't take it seriously. And to be fair, I've tried I'm sure it *has *a philosophical significance, and I'm sure it's extremely integral to the very nature of all human kind, I just haven't been enlightened yet. :) And you're right. That doesn't mean it's my right to pronounce judgement on anyone who *does* feel an exciting tingle run along their spine when they're discussing it in detail. That's *their* right. Censorship wasn't my intent either. What I was trying to impart (somewhat unsuccessfully in fact) was that taken to extremes, and placed without consideration for the feelings of those authors discussed, even the most 'correct' of criticisms, if placed coldly onto the table, can be less than constructive. Perhaps even border on condescension. If *I* sounded condescending, it was probably because (in my 'sarcastic' way, as Leanne also astutely pointed out), I like to hold up a mirror in every good argument. ;) It's effective, most of the time. In the words of Dr. Frisken, sometimes we just need to have our own expressions "reflected" back at us, in order to see what it is we're really saying. It appears in this case, reflection in tone has offended...so food for thought? Again, to Leanne and anyone else who felt slighted by my remarks, I honestly do apologize. If it makes anyone feel better, it has nothing to do with personal grudges, I tend to take life as it comes and try not to pick it apart into too many unrecoverable pieces, smaller than my own fingernail. So perhaps I *am* flippant in that respect, as Leanne described. There are many things I take seriously, very seriously in fact. But where I place my commas just isn't one of them. Life's too short and I'm just another misfit in the literary world :) We'll agree to disagree ok? And I'll offer my heartfelt apology for being the grinch who stole grammar. >Leanne >(who suspects that Demi was being her old flippant, sarcastic self -- but I >have been feeling rather decimated just for *daring* to bring a grammar >rule to people's attention!) In all fairness, you didn't (just) bring the rule to people's attention, you took out a billboard on Broadway and defied contradiction. ;) Which, I actually admire for it's impact. Because I sometimes do the same thing when I've got something to impart as well. You're a good writer Leanne. Nothing takes away from that. You and I will simply agree to never have coffee and discuss the semi-colon, that's all. Demi ;) _______________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- You gotta dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never gonna hurt. --- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. ________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 02:48:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Blueprints MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:45 PM 8/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >Gary wrote: >> >> At 11:45 AM 8/7/98 -0400, Sandy wrote: >> > >> >Speaking of other topics, Gary recently posted an address for his website >> >and I went to look at it and found that he had a blueprint-type layout of >> >L&C's townhouse (the first floor only) on his site. I enjoyed looking at >> >it and would have liked to have seen the second floor and/or more detail. >> > >> >> Okay, Okay, I'll put up the second floor. Do you want the basement, too?<< > > >Do we know that they have one? > >Actually, I'll explain my interest. When I was a young girl, a long >long time ago, I spent very little time writing. Instead, my cousin and >I wiled away many hours drawing the blueprints of houses we'd like to >live in as grown-ups. I took it a step further by taping lots of typing >paper together and drawing designs for towns, planning where houses >would be located, stores, schools, firehouses and other government >buildings. My mother probably thought she had a budding zoning >commissioner on her hands. I thought I was going to go to art school >for the longest time until I became interested in politics and stopped >drawing and sketching altogether. All was not lost, however. My cousin >went to art school and now she's an interior designer. And, I'm ... not >a zoning commissioner. > Well I put up my best guess of the 2nd floor, but it is something of an architectual paradox given the limited information, we've only actually seen the bedroom. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | My personal FoLC/Teri website | | "What's done to children, they will do to society." - Karl Menninger| =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 02:20:14 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: The L&C Fanfic Archive Needs Editors Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The L&C Fanfic Archive is in need of General Editors. We are understaffed right now (which is why we have a backlog, and also why my head is about to explode from the stress ), and we need your help. Job Description: The Archive uses General Editors (GE's) to review each story that is submitted. The GE reviews only for punctuation and typos (and the occasional grammar mistake), and ensures that the story is appropriate for the Archive (e.g. rated G, PG, or PG-13). The GE's job is *not* to point out plot holes, and especially not to rewrite a story for an author. The GE's main function is to catch any typos before the story gets uploaded to the Archive. Time Commitment: We ask for a time commitment of 5 hours/week. Most GE's are given 2-4 stories a month to proof. Our goal is to turn stories around within 1-2 weeks after submission. Currently, however, we have a delay of approximately 2-4 weeks, in part due to understaffing, and in part due to delays in hearing back from the authors. We try to be flexible (longer stories or ones that require a lot of work are not expected to be back as quickly as short stories), but we do need people who we can count on to "do the job." Qualifications: ** Must have excellent punctuation and grammar skills. ** Must be able to give corrections to authors in a tactful and friendly way. ** Must be organized enough to meet deadlines, and committed enough to follow through on assignments. ** Must provide regular updates on the status of outstanding assigned stories. ** Must have a reliable email system for receiving and sending stories. Pay: Nothing but the undying gratitude of your fellow FoLCs and your fellow Archive staff members. :) But you also get that great feeling of knowing you contributed to keeping our Fanfic Archive up and running. How To Apply: Contact Kathy Brown privately at . Replying to the listserv may result in your application being missed. Please include a summary of your editing experience. I will be collecting the names of interested people over the next week or so, then will be sending out a sample story for you to edit and get back to me. I'll make staffing decisions from there. Thanks, everyone. I'm looking forward to hearing from you and appreciate your help. If you know of other people that you think would be a good fit for this job but are not on this listserv, please forward them this message. Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive kbrown@webmart.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 00:21:04 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Grace Wong Subject: Re: Off Topic: A year ago tomorrow MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Laurie Stroh wrote: > > I have to jump in here too and say I had a great time at Laff97 and only wish > we could have repeated it this year. > > Actually, I just recently finished putting all my laff pics in an album...I'm > not usually that slow but I was waiting for some friends to send me copies of > their pictures...honest, and I had a great time reliving all the memories > while looking at the pictures. > > I can honestly say the best part was getting to meet people I had become > friends with online. My "real life" friends couldn't believe that I was > flying all the way to LA (I live in Florida) to meet a group of people I > didn't even know. They were worried that I'd meet up with some questionable > people but I knew I could count on the folcs, and I wasn't disappointed. What > a great time we all had that week. It's something I will never > forget....thanks for the memories guys! > > Laurie Stroh > ok, I couldn't help but to response to this post I don't know if I'm counted as a "true-blue" folc, (was that what was used? ) nor did I attend LAFF, (but I have a good explaination, I wasn't on the list then so I didn't know :-P) but after reading your post Laurie, I *long* for a chance to meet you guys. When I brought up the subject of NYFF to my mom, (which,I'm sorry to say was cancled because not many people wanted to attend :-( ) she immediately objected to it saying it's not safe for me going so far away and to meet strangers I don't know. I'm gonna save your post Laurie, and the next time someone holds a folcfest like this I'll show it to her and convince her to let me attend. Grace (who is upset still because she couldn't attend the New England folcfest. ) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 22:19:52 -1000 Reply-To: shore@maui.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: combo post: spelling, breaking the rules, and Oz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angee Chaudhry wrote: > In message <35C924310000006E@cncc.cncc.cc.co.us>, Sheila Harper > writes > > > >For you rr writers on "I Only Have Oz for You," I loved the symbolism > of the > >story. Each of Lois's companions represented a flaw in > herself--either real > >or perceived, and all the males at the Jade (i.e. Kryptonite) City > were > >visions of Clark. I thought you would make the Wizard--or at least > his huge > >face--more Superman-like, but I missed that connection until Lois's > return > >with the globe when she saw the real Wizard, Clark. Very interesting > look > >at her subconscious perception of Clark being the person behind > Superman. > >Good thing she didn't remember that part when she woke up! The stuff > with > >Lex was terrific--especially his motivation in providing her with > those > >particular companions--and I loved her constant longing for Clark to > talk > >to, to be with. Superman was almost an afterthought, just someone to > rescue > >her so she could get back to Clark. Nice, nice, nice :) > > > >Sheila > >sharper@cncc.cc.co.us > > >>That is *so* well put Sheila ... I couldn't have put it better > myself > and I may say I have to agree ..<< Well what more can *I* say now other than 'ditto'! And just that I thorougly enjoyed this fic! I too really dislike The Wizard of Oz, but this was great! Your imaginations are wonderful! Looking forward to more! jamee > > > Angee > -- > Angee Chaudhry ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 01:36:02 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Louise Kendall Subject: Re: Synonyms for the word "said" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great list Lisa :) You know that life is a little boring when you say every word on the list out loud and try to say each the way it means (if you get my drift) jem :) (who misses L&C some days more than others) -----Original Message----- From: Lisa M. Ramirez To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Date: Tuesday, 4 August 1998 7:00 Subject: Synonyms for the word "said" I sent this to someone recently and she suggested that I send it to this list. This might be of assistance to all the fanfic writers (and editors) out there who get tired of using the word "said" all the time when writing dialog. My 6th grade English teacher gave it to me and I have found it quite useful over the years. He had this pet peeve about the word "said". He complained that students used that word too much when there were other words far more descriptive that accomplished the job even better. So here it is, a synonym list for the word "said" compliments of my 6th grade teacher Mr. Harris. SYNONYMS FOR THE WORD "SAID" added admitted admonished advised affirmed agreed answered apologized asked assured averred began begged bellowed blustered boasted boomed burst out cackled cajoled called chided chortled commanded commented complained confided congratulated continued cried declared demanded ejaculated exclaimed explained exulted gloated greeted grimaced grinned groused growled grunted informed inquired insisted interjected interposed interrupted invited jeered laughed leered mourned mumbled murmured mused muttered observed ordered pleaded promised proposed protested put in queried questioned rasped remarked repeated replied reported responded retorted returned roared ruminated scoffed shouted shuddered sighed smiled smirked snapped snarled sneered snickered sniffed snorted stammered suggested sympathized taunted thought told urged volunteered warned went on whispered yelled Lisa M. Ramirez ramirez@estuary.amrl.odu.edu To most people, solutions are answers to problems. To chemists, solutions are things that are all mixed up. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 21:36:22 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Louise Kendall Subject: Re: Leanne, "My little tornado", this is for you too ;) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----Original Message----- From: demona To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Date: Saturday, 8 August 1998 15:57 Subject: Leanne, "My little tornado", this is for you too ;) >In any event, I really didn't intend to stomp in anyone's bubble bath. What a truly delightful image - I did wonder if you considered the advisablity of clothes in such a situation - which begs the question of exactly who one would prefer to be *in* the bubble bath - after that I had submerged so deep into the gutter that I disappeared from view jem (who uses dashes when she wishes to indicate a droo.. er... stream of consciousness state - with pauses :D ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 11:55:43 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Emily Angerer Crawford Subject: Re: Combo post on grammar: Demi, honey, you can skip this :) In-Reply-To: from "Leanne Shawler" at Aug 7, 98 09:59:09 pm Content-Type: text Leanne Shawler wrote: > Regina wrote: > I agree with Leanne except for 2 points...you certainly can get and hold a > job without being able to spell well, at all. Einstein was a horrible > speller. > > Yeah, but he was also a genius :) But you're right -- you can get a job -- > I would imagine that spelling wouldn't exactly be a major part of that job; > and as I've learnt from my scientific hubby who does some reading for a > journal (ie, is this paper scientifically valid?) if the paper's > scientifically valid, leave it to the professional editors/copywriters to > fix the grammar, spelling etc. Which is good for those wanting to publish > in foreign journals! Scientific journals probably aren't such a good example. I don't know how many articles I've read in which the English is terrible. I know that the journals I read and submit to, and the ones my husband reads and submits to, don't use much in the way of editors/copywriters. Articles go from the writer to the editor, who immediately forwards it to a referee, who judges scientific value. Many of the papers Daniel (husband) has refereed are loaded with serious grammar errors. He is willing and able to take the time to correct these, but not every referee does. The referee's comments go back to the editor with the paper; these get forwarded to the author, who makes any required changes; unless there was something serious scientifically, the papers are re-submitted with changes and immediately typeset. These days the final submission is generally electronic, and the papers are automatically formatted for the journal from that version! Proofs are sent to the author, corrections made if necessary, and the article is printed from there. At no point is the article reviewed by a professional editor or copywriter -- only the reviewer and the author ever really even look at the text. It's pretty appalling what actually gets published sometimes. In my one experience of publishing a technical document, I had to print the paper in the journal's format, copy ready. We didn't even go through the proofs stage -- it was just printed the way I submitted it. I found a couple of typos later (formatting problems, despite careful editing by myself and my advisors) that still make me cringe. I hope other fields are different. Scientific journals are terrible about what passes for English. And in my field (computer engineering) people are skipping the referee stage and just posting papers straight on the web. It's not good for your curriculum vitae, but it gets results to other people quickly! But no editors -- so, more typos, and more grammatical errors. Ick. My point (see, I knew I'd have one eventually) is that I don't like to leave things to editors and proofers. I prefer to get it right as early in the process as possible. > Dan (that's my hubby for those of you who don't know) ribs me about my > spelling and takes pride in how simpler the American spelling is: he said > "hoo! that was close!" "What?" says I; he says "hoo!" "Don't you mean > 'fee-yew'?" "No, that means 'about three'." "You're talking about p-h-e-w, > right?" "Yes" "the p-h is 'ff' like in sulfur, which used to be spelt with > a ph you know. In fact, when I was in high school, the syllabus changed so > that we had to spell it with a 'f' instead of a 'ph'. I couldn't see why, > so I never did. :)"; then segue into how American spelling is so much > simpler. :) LOL! I've never heard it suggested that "hoo" was a pronunciation of "phew". I say "phew" as a drawn-out "few" and "hoo" in the context of something like "hoo boy" (you have to get the drawl just right on that). Well, this post got much longer than I meant it to be. Hope all of you (not just Demi!) had the good sense to ignore most of it. Cheers! -Emily -- Emily Crawford/Warbler on IRC ccsupec@helen.oit.gatech.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 16:02:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beth Guide Subject: Re: Loiscla, Tahiti and a website In-Reply-To: <199808081555.LAA30612@helen.oit.gatech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, I know this the fanfic list and all but being the discussion list is down. That little Turget guy, who I picture sitting on a beach with a fez on his head and a daquri in his hand is on vacation in tahiti while we are all here e-mailess and wanting the scoop on Dean and Mindy's break up and what was that about Dean and Beverly Hills (not the show but the city of). Anyway the person who is left behind is clueless. Soooooo I just wanted to remind everyone that there is a discussion forum on Zoomway's site and it might help take up the slack of the missing e-mail list. And get us the scoop on what's going on. I can switch them out as you guys fill 'em up. Its doesn't require a password, doesn't require grammar skills, we don't mark off for typo'and, basically short of serious name calling, anything goes. If I see that you guys start filling it up pretty quickly I"ll set you up another. Speaking of which, I'll be switching out the nfic boards sometime this weekend so for those of you who have have entry screen bookmarked and don't know how to set your cache, remember to hit reload if it looks like no one is posting. It probabally means your in the wrong spot ;) So if you want to use the message boards to have a list while the list is down or even after the list is up...you can follow the link off of Zooms' main page or use this link and pick discussion. http://www.actwd.com/general/welcome_to_the_message_board_are.htm Also, if you bookmark a page, I recommend you book mark this page so you know that you are always going to the news page and when you select a topic. again if it looks like noone is posting hit reload on your browser.If anyone thinks we need another folder with a different name, let me know and I'll set it up. Old posts will be archived and still accessible. If anyone needs help, give me a hollar at my aol mailbox, I'll find you there quicker. bethgde@aol.com That's all for now. Beth ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:40:45 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: L&C Fanfic Archive (WWW) ANNOUNCEMENT :) Comments: To: loiscla@vm.ege.edu.tr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" FoLCs, I have an announcement to make! :) The Lois & Clark Fanfic WWW Archive has found a new home!! "We're up, we're good!" ... at ... http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/ Special thanks to Beth Guide, and "A Creative Touch Web Design" for granting us the added space and new living quarters we desperately needed! We've got well over 700 stories up, and it's growing exponentially, so that our old provider, graciously donated by Chris Paterson, was no longer big enough to keep us up, believe it or not! :) It is partly because of that, that the fanfic archive staff now has a bit of a personal request to the FOLCs. As all of you know, keeping an archive the size of ours up and running isn't a simple matter. We've got some really amazing people volunteering to make things work, and keep things running smoothly, but we've been footing an almost $300-400 per year bill to make it happen. Last year, Chris Paterson bought and set up a site specifically for the archive, and this year, A Creative Touch is thus far donating space which they have purchased. And so now we approach you all, the fans with a request. If you feel that you might want to help us out a little with perhaps a $1 or $2 donation, we could help take the cost of keeping the archive down for those FoLCs who have been paying on their own until now. This is by NO MEANS something we insist upon, we just thought we'd ask those of you who might have the means. If that is you, ACTWD will collect donations on behalf of the archive and the two young ladies who have been paying for it so far at: ACTWD 4180 Greenwood Drive Bethlehem, PA 18020 If anyone wants to write a check it needs to be made payable to ACTWD or Acreative Touch. We want to keep this archive up and active for as long as there are FoLCs in cyberspace :) And we'll do that, for as long as we can, no matter what. God bless you all, FoLCs and folks alike Keep writing!! ...and thank you. :) Demi __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com __________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 17:22:52 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beth Guide Subject: Re: L&C Fanfic Archive (WWW) ANNOUNCEMENT :) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980808174045.00ab57b0@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Demi said > This is by NO MEANS something we insist upon, we just thought we'd ask > those of you who might have the means. If that is you, ACTWD will collect > donations on behalf of the archive and the two young ladies who have been > paying for it so far at: > > ACTWD > 4180 Greenwood Drive > Bethlehem, PA 18020 > > If anyone wants to write a check it needs > to be made payable to ACTWD or Acreative Touch. > > We want to keep this archive up and active for as long as there are FoLCs > in cyberspace :) And we'll do that, for as long as we can, no > matter what. Hey everyone, Man, twice in one day. Okay. regarding the fanfic archive, Originally the plan was to have the checks made payable to the company but for legal reasons, we thought that maybe it could be construded as we were trying to make a profit off donations. Heck you trusted me with $13,000 worth of your money you know I would never do that...but so that we don't get the hackles of WB and DC comics up I would like to ask that we make the checks out to Moreen Romans, who pays our internet bill anyway. This way, there is no confusion that although my company donated the site, we are doing it as FoLC and not employees of ACTWD. And that was my fault for not telling Demi that before she made her post. I get a Duh for that one. Anyway, anything you guys can do will help and this will insure that the achive and FOLCdom will go on for many years to come. Beth (no need to thank me, just trying to lead a hand) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 12:41:04 -1000 Reply-To: shore@maui.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: L&C Fanfic Archive (WWW) ANNOUNCEMENT :) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beth Guide wrote: > Demi said > > >ACTWD will collect > > donations on behalf of the archive and the two young ladies who have > been > > paying for it so far at: > > > > ACTWD > > 4180 Greenwood Drive > > Bethlehem, PA 18020 > > > > If anyone wants to write a check it needs > > to be made payable to ACTWD or Acreative Touch. > > > > > And then Beth wrote: > >>.but so that we don't get the hackles > of WB and DC comics up I would like to ask that we make the checks out > to > Moreen Romans, who pays our internet bill anyway.<< So do we still send it to the ACTWD address above and put attention Moreen Romans? Or do we need to send it to a different address? jamee...incredibly greatful for all who have donated time and money to keep L&C alive!:o) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 18:10:16 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beth Guide Subject: Re: L&C Fanfic Archive (WWW) ANNOUNCEMENT :) In-Reply-To: <35CCD400.8FE3DE71@maui.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > So do we still send it to the ACTWD address above and put attention > Moreen Romans? Or do we need to send it to a different address? Same Address she happens to live in our coporate headquarters, which kinda doubles as her house from time to time. Either way we will get it. Thanks, Beth > ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 18:59:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: DEBRA GRAY Subject: Definition, please? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excuse my ignorance, but would someone please explain for me the difference between fanfic and nfic? Thanks a gazillion. PS, thanks to all of you who wrote me to answer my last ignoramus questions. Debra Gray dlgray@usa.net FoLC Trekker X-Phile (a 'Shipper to be precise!) M*A*S*Hnik JAG fan etc. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:04:35 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Crystal Wimmer Subject: Re: Definition, please? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/8/98 5:00:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dlgray@USA.NET writes: > Excuse my ignorance, but would someone please explain for me the difference > between fanfic and nfic? Thanks a gazillion. > Fanfic is fiction based on a television series or movie that is written by a not-professional type writer (a fan). Nfic is also fanfic, but it is normally rated NC-17... it has adult situations, sex, language, or whatever that make it inappropriate for kids to read. It is not a secret, but it is fairly well protected for Lois and Clark. It is not available for the general public, but rather directly from individual authors. It is also known as "adult" fanfic... and is available in many for many other series much more easily. The "N" comes from "naughty"... although I think that is a matter of opinion. Hope these definitions help you out. Crystal ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:30:09 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Alright Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-07 10:49:30 EDT, klane@DIGITAL.NET writes: << Alright as one word is not a word, regardless of whether it's in the dictionary or not >> Ah, yes, this brings back memories of 7th grade English class and our teacher's list of "unforgiveable errors." If you made one of those on a paper you would get it back with a big U and you'd have to figure out what to correct before it would be graded. I dont' remember most of the list--but one was to spell her name incorrectly, and one was "NEVER, NEVER use alright!" --Laurie (for whom 7th grade was decades ago...) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 19:41:50 +0000 Reply-To: wbarbara@execpc.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Barbara Knutson Subject: Re: Definition, please? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Excuse my ignorance, but would someone please explain for me the difference between fanfic and nfic? Thanks a gazillion. > > PS, thanks to all of you who wrote me to answer my last ignoramus questions. > > Debra Gray > dlgray@usa.net > Debra If you ask the question, you're ignorant of the knowledge. You're seeking information. If you don't even *ask*, you're continuing to be ignorant. This is all my not-so-humble opinion, of course.....:} "fanfic" is fiction written based on characters in a TV show or movie or whatever. "G" or "PG" or even "PG-13" rated "nfic", or "naughty" fic, is the adult-ization of it. "R" or "NC-17". Rarely XXX (hardcore)...... Barbara who can't do plot, and couldn't keep it clean to save my life, so I only write nfic.....:} +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ wbarbara@execpc.com WAFFyBarb on IRC from the land of Cheese and Beer and my beloved Brand-new-wife of Jon Knutson - the most wonderful man alive And a believer that fairy tales *can* come true.... http://members.tripod.com/~WAFFyBarb/index.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 20:50:35 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: L&C Fanfic Archive (WWW) ANNOUNCEMENT :) In-Reply-To: <000401bdc31b$15f12360$4d61cd98@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:22 PM 8/8/1998 -0500, you wrote: >Man, twice in one day. Okay. regarding the fanfic archive, Originally the >plan was to have the checks made payable to the company but for legal >reasons, we thought that maybe it could be construded as we were trying to >make a profit off donations. Heck you trusted me with $13,000 worth of your >money you know I would never do that...but so that we don't get the hackles >of WB and DC comics up I would like to ask that we make the checks out to >Moreen Romans, who pays our internet bill anyway. This way, there is no >confusion that although my company donated the site, we are doing it as FoLC >and not employees of ACTWD. And that was my fault for not telling Demi that >before she made her post. I get a Duh for that one. Naw, Beth Now that you mention it, I think I do recall you saying something about that, at least in passing, which means I get the "Duh" in all fairness ;P So give it back! LOL ;) Sorry about the confusion there, FoLCs. There has been a lot of decision making regarding the archive going on lately, I think that bit of changed information may have gotten lost in the tumble of figuring everything out. Thanks for clearing that up Mlle Guide ;) Demi __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com __________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 8 Aug 1998 21:22:42 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: *hugs* to Demi (guess you can read this one, Demi :)) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hey, Demi, I read your post ... Verra gracious it was too. My apologies in turn for being so brusque. Demi ends: >>You're a good writer Leanne. Nothing takes away from that. You and I will simply agree to never have coffee and discuss the semi-colon, that's all. << Deal. So long as we don't discuss our colons, either! And ... do you mind if I have a lemonade? I've given up coffee :) Leanne (Demi's email filter :)) Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 01:21:35 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lansbury 1 Subject: Writer's Showcase Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Writers and Readers of L&CFanfic, I would like announce to everyone here that I now have a website which I have called Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Writer's Showcase. I love fanfic and I admire the writers of it. I have often wondered about who they are and how they get their inspiration for writing about the characters of L&C. I will 'Showcase' one fanfic writer a week. There will be a survey sent to fanfic writers and hopefully the authors will fill them out and return them to me. If you have a favorite writer you would like to see featured, please, feel free to pass on the name and email address to me. This is open for all writers 'old and new'. I hope everyone will enjoy learning more about the fanfic writers of Lois and Clark. Annie Lansbury Lansbury 1@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:02:35 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: trish Subject: Re: Writer's Showcase MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Annie wrote: > > I would like announce to everyone here that I now have a website which I have > called Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Writer's Showcase. I > love fanfic and I admire the writers of it. I have often wondered about who > they are and how they get their inspiration for writing about the characters > of L&C. It sounds great Annie.... but do we get the address for it ? :) Trish ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:50:36 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: RFC822 error: MESSAGE-ID field duplicated. Last occurrence was retained. From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: Combo post on grammar: Demi, honey, you can skip this :) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:59 PM 8/7/98 -0800, you wrote: >Regina wrote: >I agree with Leanne except for 2 points...you certainly can get and hold a >job without being able to spell well, at all. Einstein was a horrible >speller. I've heard variations on this before, particularly (when I was a kid) "Einstein flunked English." But as I became older and more logical thinking (it happens from time to time!), it occurred to me that Einstein probably learned German (or maybe Hebrew) first and thus could not have "flunked English" or, in this case, necessarily have been a horrible speller. Indeed, he was no doubt fluent in several languages by the time he escaped 1930s Germany. That on top of being a mathematics/physics wizard of his time. I also tend not to believe the old urban legend that humans use only a small portion of our brains, though I do understand that there are redundant features, which is a good idea: in the event of an injury, a different part of the brain can sometimes take over when the injured part can't function any more... In other words, there are a lot of things that everybody knows that don't stand up under closer scrutiny... ;) Debby Debby@swcp.com glad that not everyone has good grammar or my job wouldn't be half so much fun ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 06:53:58 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: Combo post on grammar: Demi, honey, you can skip this :) In-Reply-To: <199808081555.LAA30612@helen.oit.gatech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:55 AM 8/8/98 -0400, Emily wrote: >Scientific journals probably aren't such a good example. I don't know how >many articles I've read in which the English is terrible. I know that the >journals I read and submit to, and the ones my husband reads and submits to, >don't use much in the way of editors/copywriters. Articles go from the >writer to the editor, who immediately forwards it to a referee, who judges >scientific value. I have a friend who likes to tell the story of a local law firm she worked for. It was her job to type things up, and she was warned not to change a word, not even one. Well, being that she has a brain in her head and that she's a feisty woman, she would correct grammar, punctuation, spelling, etc. They would turn around retype it as it "should" have been--ugly looking. Eventually, my friend fired them--they were about to fire her for "not fitting in", but she got the jump on them :) Debby Debby@swcp.com who quit a job once because everyone but me smoked ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 11:04:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: Combo post on grammar: Demi, honey, you can skip this :) In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:50 AM 8/9/98 -0600, you wrote: >At 09:59 PM 8/7/98 -0800, you wrote: > >>Regina wrote: >>I agree with Leanne except for 2 points...you certainly can get and hold a >>job without being able to spell well, at all. Einstein was a horrible >>speller. > >I've heard variations on this before, particularly (when I was a kid) >"Einstein flunked English." But as I became older and more logical thinking >(it happens from time to time!), it occurred to me that Einstein probably >learned German (or maybe Hebrew) first and thus could not have "flunked >English" or, in this case, necessarily have been a horrible speller. >Indeed, he was no doubt fluent in several languages by the time he escaped >1930s Germany. That on top of being a mathematics/physics wizard of his time. > Einstein did fail math. But it was because he skipped all the classes, had a friend take notes and only showed up to take the exam. > >In other words, there are a lot of things that everybody knows that don't >stand up under closer scrutiny... ;) > Like the Moonlighting Effect, L&C's ratings went down after they DID NOT get married. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | My personal FoLC/MATH website | | "What's done to children, they will do to society." - Karl Menninger| =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 12:48:32 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Layney Dixon Subject: sixth season? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Ok, I am currently trapped in an alternative universe and unable to keep steady contact with the real world of Metropolis, thus I am 400 some posts behind on this list. So, my question may have already been thrown out there on the info speedway. If so, I apologize. Is there going to be a sixth season of S5...err...S6? And if so, when can we anticipate the season premiere? Oh....and what channel [site] will it be airing on? Thanks. Layney ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 13:53:06 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Archive Proposal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" hi all, Let me start by loudly applauding, stamping my feet on the floor, etc etc for all those who work so hard in keeping the Fanfic Archive up and happening. I don't know about anybody else, but it was a bit of a shock to find out that the archive costs $300-$400 a month to run. I know Rhen gave it up because she had charges from the ftp side of thing (as well as the huge amount of time it took to maintain) but had rather blithely assumed that the new arrangements were, hmm, cost-efficient. So, I had an idea and I thought I would throw it out there for speculation, thoughts, etc etc It seems to me that the costs are coming from the amount of webspace taken up by over 700 stories as well as the number of hits or amount downloaded from the server. My idea was this: that each author or interested parties host a bunch of stories. It seems that many of our L&C authors have their own websites with their L&C stories, duplicating, in short, the archival effort. The head and foot of each story could have a nifty clickable banner such as: "This Story Is from the L&C Fanfic Archive" to "mark" it as an archive story. But wait, you say: what if a website with a bunch of stories disappears? Let's say one submits a story to the archive: it goes through the current process as it stands, the final version is approved. The author puts it up on their website (or the story is sent to an "interested party") and discloses the link to the archive -- the archive then merely links to the off-site story *and* keeps a copy of the story somewhere safe: on a zip disk, a hard drive -- where ever the backup is being kept now. So if the story disappears from the web -- it can be "restored" by the archive folc. The Archive will have every story in safe-keeping "offline". I would imagine that the Archive would also host those stories not picked up by "interested parties", for example, those authors who have since disappeared from FoLCdom. An interested party could offer to host stories/authors starting with a particular letter, or a theme, or even a country's worth (eg, UKFolc stories or Aussie stories) ... What would this mean for the archive? * less webspace taken up * less download charges Perhaps even whittling the expense away to nothing ... naturally, it's going to take quite a bit of organising -- all the authors should have the opportunity to host their own stories, for instance ... but if we folcs can't meet the $300-$400 a month *every* month ... this could be a way for the archive to survive. Thoughts? Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:54:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Archive Proposal In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:53 PM 8/9/1998 -0800, Leanne Shawler wrote: >I don't know about anybody else, but it was a bit of a shock to find out >that the archive costs $300-$400 a month to run. Yikes! It's not over $300 a month, it's over $300 a YEAR :) I said: <> That includes the inital set-up fee for the account, and then the monthly bills, plus the cost of placing Front Page extention software on the site so that we can organize and keep track of everything we've got there more easily. Believe it or not, running an archive like that and keeping track of how many different times a story, author name, title, filename, subject or theme needs to be cross referenced -- isn't easy. Ask Lauren W She was doing it by hand with a spread sheet for a long time before this, herself. Its a large administrative project. >I know Rhen gave it up >because she had charges from the ftp side of thing (as well as the huge >amount of time it took to maintain) but had rather blithely assumed that >the new arrangements were, hmm, cost-efficient. Well Rhen ended up having to pay for her space, that's what happens The only way we were 'cost-efficient' was because we had a FoLC donating a few hundred dollars of her own money to foot the bill. Chris Paterson actually went out and bought a completely new ISP just to get us up and running with the space we needed. She paid for it all this past year and she never onced asked for anything in return for that. She even volunteers her time updating with the archive team on TOP of that. But at present, she'd be looking at paying a few dollars per extra MB of space, since our cup(space) has runneth over with stories. Chris didn't suggest this, the rest of us thought it would only be fair. And now that Beth has done something similar all over again, all the more so, IMHO :) >The Archive will have every story in safe-keeping "offline". I would >imagine that the Archive would also host those stories not picked up by >"interested parties", for example, those authors who have since disappeared >from FoLCdom. >Thoughts? The idea isn't a bad one, however it's not feasible, unfortunately. When we took this task over from Rhen, we met several times and went over almost every option imaginable. Believe it or not, this one included. The thing with doing things off-site is: [] The archive needs to maintain a standard. By allowing authors to house their stories off-site we would have no way to verify their continued 'acceptible' rating, nor that the link we were presented with remains what we thought it was. In order to do that we'd have to run around at double time checking up on every story we've got listed in there, and that's a scary thought [] Also, there are a great many authors with little or no HTML experience. I'd imagine the bulk of them aren't web page creators, and they would therefore need to piggy back on someone else's site, or ours in any event. And for formatting and editting purposes, it's simply easier to keep everything uniform. This *is* truly the best way to keep stories up and available for the FoLCs. Either way you slice this, we need the space. We have unlimited space right now with the new address, so that will no longer be a problem. No one should feel that they have any obligation whatsoever to send $1 or $2 if that's not feasible for them. We aren't trying to make money off of anyone here, and we never have been. Those who have purchased the space for the archive aren't in this for a profit. They donated what they could. Some of us thought it would just be a nice gesture if we all pitched in a little now, whatever we felt like pitching in, because we're all enjoying the archive together. :) That's all. Sorry if that doesn't sound 'cost-efficient'. Take Care FoLCs ;) Demi __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com __________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 17:57:31 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel Madden Subject: Re: Writer's Showcase Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Annie- I would thoroughly enjot checking out your new website and that survey you were talking about. Here's my name and e-mail address: Rachel M. Scardno007@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 18:24:19 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: -Audrey Howard Subject: Re: Writer's Showcase Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Annie- I would love to check out the website you talked about too. Here's my name and e-mail address: Audrey Howard Moped12646@aol.com By the way, what's the site's address? :) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:57:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Re: Archive Proposal In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980809175421.00adf9a0@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >At 01:53 PM 8/9/1998 -0800, Leanne Shawler wrote: >>I don't know about anybody else, but it was a bit of a shock to find out >>that the archive costs $300-$400 a month to run. > >Yikes! It's not over $300 a month, it's over $300 a YEAR :) > > >No one should feel that they have any obligation whatsoever to send $1 or >$2 if that's not feasible for them. We aren't trying to make money off of >anyone here, and we never have been. Those who have purchased the space >for the archive aren't in this for a profit. They donated what they could. > Some of us thought it would just be a nice gesture if we all pitched in a >little now, whatever we felt like pitching in, because we're all enjoying >the archive together. :) > >That's all. Sorry if that doesn't sound 'cost-efficient'. > Ah :) (*Leanne blushes in embarrassment*) Well, if it's per year, that's a a lot more cost efficient than per month! *grin* Well, that was a waste of brain energy for me -- you guys have it totally under control! :) Leanne (crawling back under her rock ....) Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 18:05:16 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beth Guide Subject: Re: Archive Proposal Comments: cc: Kmcstr@aol.com, MoreenR@aol.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ya, Know Leanne, I've about had it with you acting like the a sphincter muscle on the kickable back end of a donkey. Every stinking think someone does or says on this list you have to take them to task for. Demi said year LeAnn, a year 12 months, 365 days. Sorry that everyone has to put up with listening to this but its because not only can LeAnn not spell in English as evidenced by her post yesterday, she obviously can't read it either. I will say your idea sucks. You just tripled the workload. And that's why this wasn't implemented a year ago. We asked for $2 count them 2 stinking dollars to help defray a $600 bill Chris and I have incurred since Rhen decided she couldn't take it any more. That's over the course of 2 years. That goes to the server whomever they are, not to the archive staff. Finding a home for a site this large isnt easy and further more the amount of bandwidth that is involved is astronimical and if you really knew anything about anything, you would know that not only does size count (okay out of the gutter)but so does the traffic. We have a low cost server out there. So get off you high horse, take your plan and go sit back down. Again, Demi said yearly, $300 yearly, maybe where you come from there is 12 of them in a row. making up a year. But where I come from 12 months make up a year. ..now class if you take $300 and divide by 12 months you get $25 per month (and how long does a train going 50 MPH) and that's what it costs with the set up fees that again we incurred. The original home of the archive wasn't speedy enough to handle more that a handful of you requesting stories, thus why we moved it again. Speed dependability and unlimited bandwidth. We are addressing the single most issue we received from y'all as feedback nothing more nothing less. Now I want to commend Demi for her reply of this because for once she was far more level headed then me, however after a barrage of LeAnn Knows All posts over the past several days it was more than I could stomach. LeAnn before you knock someone next time and we all know there will be a next time have your facts straight. And, I may add, if you are going to grade me on grammar and syntax, I must say your little letter upset me so greatly that I'm surprised that I see to spell the words never mind worrying about the punctuation. Oh and one more thing, don't applause us and then proceed to knock every thing that this group has accomplished because that is an even bigger slap in the face than if you say it out right. Beth (taking LeAnn's Keyboard away and buying her glasses, and who wishes to apologize if I offended anyone else. In addition, this is written on behalf of Me, Beth, not the fanfic archive or anything else I'm affiliated with) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 19:29:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Margaret Brignell Subject: What's the story on the Archive? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, I know I'm way behind, but I somehow missed the story on the funding crisis for the Archive. (The first thing I knew, the archive had moved addresses:( I don't remember seeing any posts about it being in trouble.) Could someone please give those of us that missed the initial crisis the Reader's Digest version of what's going on with the Archive? Thanks Margaret who *knew* that letting herself 400 posts behind was asking for trouble ****************************** Margaret Brignell brignell@capitalnet.com Ottawa, Canada %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% My fanfic now available at: http://www.capitalnet.com/~brignell/ ****************************** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 18:50:05 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beth Guide Subject: Re: What's the story on the Archive? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980809192913.007ce290@capitalnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Margaret said >Okay, I know I'm way behind, but I somehow missed the story on the funding > crisis for the Archive. (The first thing I knew, the archive had moved > addresses:( I don't remember seeing any posts about it being in trouble.) > That's just it, its not in trouble, we just thought if anyone wanted to lend a hand, that it would help out those paying out of their own pockets...But no the archive is here to stay as long as people want it..sorry for any confusion that LeAnn may have caused making it sound like something it wasn't. There is no crisis. We moved the site to speed it up and give us more room. That's all. the new address is http://lcfanfic.actwd.com Sorry for the confusion Beth (who is answering for the archive this time) > -----Original Message----- > From: Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic > [mailto:LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU]On Behalf Of Margaret > Brignell > Sent: Sunday, August 09, 1998 6:29 PM > To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU > Subject: What's the story on the Archive? > > > Okay, I know I'm way behind, but I somehow missed the story on the funding > crisis for the Archive. (The first thing I knew, the archive had moved > addresses:( I don't remember seeing any posts about it being in trouble.) > > Could someone please give those of us that missed the initial crisis the > Reader's Digest version of what's going on with the Archive? > > Thanks > > Margaret > who *knew* that letting herself 400 posts behind was asking for trouble > > > ****************************** > Margaret Brignell > brignell@capitalnet.com > Ottawa, Canada > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > My fanfic now available at: > http://www.capitalnet.com/~brignell/ > ****************************** > ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 19:45:39 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: What's the story on the Archive? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980809192913.007ce290@capitalnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" On 08/08/1998 if you read a post made by me (demona): SUBJECT: L&C Fanfic Archive (WWW) ANNOUNCEMENT :) Everything is in there, pretty much. The archive is in a safe, stable new location, we're in no danger of closing -- just to make sure no one misunderstands. We aren't going anywhere if we can help it! We were just trying to help out the two ladies who've been paying for everything on their own until now. But again, we aren't closing down. Take Care All, Demi __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com __________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 19:58:08 -0400 Reply-To: salymc@gateway.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Organization: GWNET Subject: Re: Archive Proposal MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Beth Guide wrote: > > Ya, Know Leanne, I've about had it with you acting like the a sphincter > muscle on the kickable back end of a donkey. Every stinking think someone > does or says on this list you have to take them to task for. Demi said year > LeAnn, a year 12 months, 365 days. Sorry that everyone has to put up with > listening to this but its because not only can LeAnn not spell in English as > evidenced by her post yesterday, she obviously can't read it either. I will > say your idea sucks. You just tripled the workload. And that's why this > wasn't implemented a year ago.<< Beth, et al.: I'm not exactly the voice of reason on this or any L&C list, but I'm a little taken aback here. I looked at Leanne's post, and I don't see anything but suggestions for alternatives in the face of what she thought might be a financial problem. (Isn't it possible she just misunderstood you.) I don't think any L&C fan questions the hard work you've done, or your (or your colleagues') trustworthiness. I know that I plan to contribute something, and I only saw Leanne's post as a contribution of an idea. As for the other comments about grammar and such, there were more than a few people involved in that thread. It was a healthy debate. I hope that we always feel comfortable enough to voice our opinions in a constructive way about grammar, creativity, you name it, without anyone getting upset. I will be sending my donation this week. I use the fanfic archive a lot, I've always enjoyed it, and its the least I can do to keep it going. Sincerely, Sandy salymc@gateway.net ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:05:16 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Archive Proposal Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 um, Beth, can I offer you some paava leaves? It's sounding like you're a bit stressed. Seriously, I know Leanne can come across as obnoxious sometimes (sorry, Leanne but I'm sure you think the same of me) but the fact is that this particular suggestion of hers was very clearly meant to be helpful, and to flame her for trying to be helpful ... well, it doesn't reflect ve= ry well on anyone. We all need to vent sometimes, but this list just isn't the place to do i= t (I did it once or twice, a few months ago, but I do regret it). Far safe= r & healthier to sound off to a few good friends in private. I'm pretty sure all the FOLCs appreciate the hard work you and your staff= have put into maintaining such a classy archive, and I plan to send y'all= a contribution this week, I figure it's the least I can do. PJ who's not trying to sound like she Knows All (and I really hope this doesn't sound like a flame, because it's honestly not meant that way) and who cherishes the illusion that FOLCs are a nicer class of people than ordinary joes. !^NavFont02F03560007MGHHJ587D0C E-mail from: Pam Jernigan jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/folc.html Find all the IRC roundrobin fanfic / Featuring recommended fanfics ~~~~~ "I'm sorry, but Miles thinks he's a knight-errant. A rational government wouldn't allow him possession of a pocketknife, let alone a space fleet." --Cordelia Naismith Vorkosigan, discussing her son _Mirror Dance_ by Lois McMaster Bujold Distribution: 'Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of S INTERNET:LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:06:09 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Crystal Wimmer Subject: Re: Archive Proposal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/9/98 4:58:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, salymc@gateway.net writes: > I'm not exactly the voice of reason on this or any L&C list, but I'm a > little taken aback here. I looked at Leanne's post, and I don't see > anything but suggestions for alternatives in the face of what she > thought might be a financial problem. (Isn't it possible she just > misunderstood you.) I don't think any L&C fan questions the hard work > you've done, or your (or your colleagues') trustworthiness. I know that > I plan to contribute something, and I only saw Leanne's post as a > contribution of an idea. Thanks, Sandy... I'm not the only one, then. I thought Leanne's suggestion was made with the best of intent... and I also understood Demi's explanation that it wasn't practical (and why). I have certainly misunderstood information and made erroneous suggestions as a result... it happens to us all. Actually, I have often wondered why so many stories are housed in so many different places... Demi's answer explained so much. Still, I thought Leanne had a creative solution, and it could have been "made" to work, if necessary. Didn't Demi say that the idea *had* been considered? That tells me the suggestion was valid... a good idea, even if it wouldn't hold up under practical application. Just my thoughts... Crystal ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:15:42 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Regina Gilchrist Ash Subject: reactions Hi, FoLC, Sandy said she was "taken aback" by Beth's reactive post to Leanne's...I was appalled. *FoLC* do not act/react like this. These kind of hurtful posts are the reason I left Highlander and La Femme Nikita...I just didn't think the ppl were very nice. Yes, many of us were involved in the grammar, spelling posts, but *none* were abrasive. (We disagreed very nicely, thanks :) Leanne's posts were not then, nor was her suggestions for helping the archive, out of line. She *misread* the month/year thing, and was offering a suggestion. I guess I need to calm down, too, but I just never expected to see FoLC treating each other in such a way. Regina -- Regina Ash (rash@dnet.net) ************************************************ "Science, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke *********************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:09:02 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Cristin J Whitley Subject: I'm ashamed to be a FoLC (was Re: Archive Proposal) >Ya, Know Leanne, I've about had it with you acting like the a sphincter >muscle on the kickable back end of a donkey. Every stinking think someone >does or says on this list you have to take them to task for. Demi said year >LeAnn, a year 12 months, 365 days. Sorry that everyone has to put up with >listening to this but its because not only can LeAnn not spell in English as >evidenced by her post yesterday, she obviously can't read it either. I will >say your idea sucks. You just tripled the workload. And that's why this >wasn't implemented a year ago. Beth and anyone else who felt like reading this, This reply is by far the rudest, most hurtful thing I have ever read. Beth, if someone makes you mad, insulting them (especially as violently as you did) is not the answer. I am 100% sure you, like all of us, have misread something. You had absolutely no right to explode on poor Leanne who, from my viewpoint, was just trying to help you. Digs like the ones in the above paragraph are not only insulting, but also uncalled for. It makes me so mad to think that yesterday I was on the verge of complimenting you and Demi (Demi, I still extend my thanks to you. :o)) for the wonderful job you did in asking for help and a little bit of cash (which the archive most certainly deserves). This is not an easy thing to do. You both handled it quite nicely and extremely graciously right up until you sent this email. I just hope your rudeness doesn't discourage people from helping the archive. It is a great thing and I appreciate all of you who have made it possible over the years. >We asked for $2 count them 2 stinking dollars to help defray a $600 bill >Chris and I have incurred since Rhen decided she couldn't take it any more. >That's over the course of 2 years. That goes to the server whomever they >are, not to the archive staff. Finding a home for a site this large isnt >easy and further more the amount of bandwidth that is involved is >astronimical and if you really knew anything about anything, you would know >that not only does size count (okay out of the gutter)but so does the >traffic. We have a low cost server out there. So get off you high horse, >take your plan and go sit back down. Complaining like this is not a good way to encourage people to send those "2 stinking dollars". I know that you have certainly made me uneasy about the whole idea. Also, you are not the one to judge if anyone "really knows anything about anything" unless you *are* that person. >Again, Demi said yearly, $300 yearly, maybe where you come from there is 12 >of them in a row. making up a year. But where I come from 12 months make up >a year. ..now class if you take $300 and divide by 12 months you get $25 per >month (and how long does a train going 50 MPH) and that's what it costs >with the set up fees that again we incurred. The original home of the >archive wasn't speedy enough to handle more that a handful of you requesting >stories, thus why we moved it again. Speed dependability and unlimited bandwidth. >We are addressing the single most issue we received from y'all as feedback >nothing more nothing less. The sarcasm is not appreciated. I know you ticked me off, and I would imagine other FoLCs feel the same way. I find it quite amazing that someone smart enough to help run such a great website can be so dumb as to do something like this. >Now I want to commend Demi for her reply of this because for once she was >far more level headed then me, however after a barrage of LeAnn Knows All >posts over the past several days it was more than I could stomach. I also think Demi did a great job both with presenting the idea and replying to all posts. Thank you, Demi. I have not seen a single "Leanne Knows All" post in the time I have been on this mailing list. Personally. I think Leanne is a great writer and a great person. I appreciate all the info she has given out on this list, Unlike you, her posts have helped me to become a better writer. >LeAnn before you knock someone next time and we all know there will be a >next time have your facts straight. And, I may add, if you are going to >grade me on grammar and syntax, I must say your little letter upset me so >greatly that I'm surprised that I see to spell the words never mind worrying >about the punctuation. Oh and one more thing, don't applause us and then >proceed to knock every thing that this group has accomplished because that >is an even bigger slap in the face than if you say it out right. Just because someone read wrong doesn't mean they deserve such insulting replies. Also, I have never seen Leanne or any other FoLC for that matter knock someone on this list or on loiscla or anywhere else. Perhaps others have found grammar tips useful. Did you ever consider this? Leanne's post didn't knock anything that ya'll have done. In fact, I believe she was commending you on a good job. >Beth (taking LeAnn's Keyboard away and buying her glasses, and who wishes to >apologize if I offended anyone else. In addition, this is written on behalf >of Me, Beth, not the fanfic archive or anything else I'm affiliated with) I don't care if you say you aren't saying things on behalf of things you are affiliated with. When you say and do things, when any of us do, it reflects back on and is representative of our families, teachers, friends, and any groups we may be a part of. In the email that infuriated me so, you represented the FoLCs. I must say, when I read it, I was ashamed to be a FoLC (something I thought I'd never say). If you must know, I am crying as I write this because you have made me so upset. Cristin (who gives any FoLC permission to check the grammar in her letter. I'd love to learn from *my* mistakes. I also apologize for lashing out so publicly, but I wanted everyone to know how upset this made me.) CKandLL4ever@Juno.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:38:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: What goes around, comes around, was (Re: Archive Proposal) In-Reply-To: <199808092005_MC2-5593-EEE7@compuserve.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:05 PM 8/9/98 -0400, you wrote: > um, Beth, can I offer you some paava leaves? It's sounding >like you're a bit stressed. > >Seriously, I know Leanne can come across as obnoxious sometimes (sorry, >Leanne but I'm sure you think the same of me) but the fact is that >this particular suggestion of hers was very clearly meant to be helpful, >and to flame her for trying to be helpful ... well, it doesn't reflect very >well on anyone. > As someone who has been flamed by Leanne for offering helpful advice before, I gotta say I'm not surprised... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | My personal FoLC/MATH website | | "What's done to children, they will do to society." - Karl Menninger| =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:08:09 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: DEBRA GRAY Subject: Re: [Writer's Showcase] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Dear Writers and Readers of L&CFanfic, > > I would like announce to everyone here that I now have a website which I have called Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Writer's Showcase. I love fanfic and I admire the writers of it. I have often wondered about who they are and how they get their inspiration for writing about the characters of L&C. > > I will 'Showcase' one fanfic writer a week. There will be a survey sent to fanfic writers and hopefully the authors will fill them out and return them to me. > > If you have a favorite writer you would like to see featured, please, feel free to pass on the name and email address to me. This is open for all writers 'old and new'. > > I hope everyone will enjoy learning more about the fanfic writers of Lois and Clark. > > > Annie Lansbury > Lansbury 1@aol.com Annie, this sounds like a great website, and I'd love to check it out. But you never gave us the URL. :( Could you fill us in, please? Thanks. Debra dlgray@usa.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:20:02 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beth Guide Subject: Re: Archive Proposal In-Reply-To: <1da712d1.35ce3974@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry that I may have offended anyone...however, perception is everything. And after saying we are doing a good job and gave us a 30 minute dissertation on how we could do our job better, And what was the next post, is the archive in crisis. I too have misread posts. And no debate never bothers me. In fact I like it, I like to see other peoples opinions and maybe learn something from them. But, I guess after sitting here and reading, no matter what Demi says Leanne has to argue with it, and that's what I take humberage at. Its one upmanship at its finest. If this weren't the case, and there was some sincerity in this post, the fact Leanne housed season 5 on simplenet and she knows that there are far cheaper servers out there than $300 a month should speak volumns to back what I am saying. As the owner of a web design company she knows there is places cheaper than $300 per month. To offer one of those would make me believe her comments were heartfelt not a slap in the face. To offer a server that charges less that $300 per month as would have been of genuine help. I'm not sure what the intent here was. All I do know is that we got a letter saying hey do it this way when I am acutely aware that she KNOWS of places that would charge us far less than $300. And yet she choose to tell use this big plan of how to do it. In addition, the feeling I got was that my company was going to charge the fanfic archive $300 a month to house this site. I have never once taken advantage of anything and do not intend on starting now. Ya, know Demi, I knew better than to put the company name on the make payable line and I was worried about WB thinking we were profitting. I never guessed a folc would think that of me. Again to anyone that was offended I'm sorry. I was horribly offended at her implications across the board. And I should be allowed that right. Beth ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:12:55 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Crystal Wimmer Subject: Re: [Writer's Showcase] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/9/98 6:09:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, dlgray@USA.NET writes: > Annie, this sounds like a great website, and I'd love to check it out. But > you never gave us the URL. :( Could you fill us in, please? > Thanks. > First off... I'm not annie... but I have seen several of these posts, so I thought I'd fill you in. The site is in progress, and Annie is currently obtaining surveys from various authors. As soon as the site is up and running, she will announce the URL. Hope this clears things up :) Crystal (a friend of annie's) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:22:38 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: All Right, Alright ;) (Was Re: Archive Proposal) In-Reply-To: <1da712d1.35ce3974@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:06 PM 8/9/1998 EDT, you wrote: > Didn't Demi say that the >idea *had* been considered? That tells me the suggestion was >valid... a good idea, even if it wouldn't hold up under practical >application. Yes, we considered a lot of varying alternatives when the archive was re-housed. And Leanne's most recent idea was indeed one of them, at least in terms of having the stories housed off site. In all fairness I agree that Beth's response was harsh. It was perhaps even a little on the heedless side of 'proper'. But it also seemed to me that Beth's response came out that way because she felt hurt, personally. And she forgot to censor her feelings on the way out. We've all been guilty of that before. Beth is directly involved in the economics of keeping the archive up and running these days, and I know she was willing to do it on her own until we suggested otherwise. Because of that, I can see how Leanne's post could have been interpreted more than one way by Beth, in her position. Since I wasn't there when she wrote it, I don't want to interpret for her misleadingly, but I belive she responded the way she did because *she* interpreted the suggestion as being that Leanne was implying that people were attempting to make money off of this. And that Leanne didn't believe the expenses were real and challenged them. Which, quite truly she did. (Though she misunderstood the month vs. year aspect which probably played a large part in that). The fact remains, that over a $1 donation, it looked to me like Beth felt ... well I'll leave it to Beth to fill in that blank. Leanne's idea was valid, and her suggestion was not a bad one but I think since the economics of this are so close to Beth, she took Leanne's post very seriously. In so far as that goes, I can see why she wanted to set things straight. Yes, she responded a little (OK..a lot ;) emotionally, but I think we've all been guilty of that from time to time. Leanne made her angry. We've all been angry before and we all will be again. And before we hang *anybody* at high noon (Beth or Leanne), we need to remember that sometimes, what seems 'simple' to one person may be interpreted a lot differently by someone else. ...And other times, a post is worded a certain way purposefully so as to be received differently by 'certain' people and seem completely harmless to others who aren't as close to the issue. We all know how that goes too. Beth probably did misunderstand Leanne. In fact, I'm sure she did. But, to a certain extent then -- so did a few other people, who may not have been as eager to stick their necks out and let people know they were upset or hurt. In the end, I don't think this issue deserves to see anyone scandalized over it. It would just be wrong. I'm sorry Leanne was dragged through the trenches over it, and I'd be even sorrier of we all picked up sticks and began beating on one another defending our 'side of the fence' now. The fact remains that the *only* reason anyone posted on this subject, Leanne included, is because we *all* care about the future of FOLC fanfic, and we want what's best for everyone involved. I say...we leave it at that, and move on. Demi ;) __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com __________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:47:14 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Archive Proposal Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-09 20:06:34 EDT, jernigan@COMPUSERVE.COM writes: << and who cherishes the illusion that FOLCs are a nicer class of people than ordinary joes. >> Why Pam, I thought that this was absolutely true, not an illusion at all. :) --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:42:33 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Margaret Brignell Subject: Re: What's the story on the Archive? In-Reply-To: <000101bdc3f0$6ec34420$76b9ac98@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:50 PM 8/9/1998 -0500, Beth wrote: >That's just it, its not in trouble, we just thought if anyone wanted to lend >a hand, that it would help out those paying out of their own pockets... I either didn't get, or skipped, the message asking to help out, so I was a tad out of the loop. >But >no the archive is here to stay as long as people want it..sorry for any >confusion that LeAnn may have caused making it sound like something it >wasn't. There is no crisis. Actually, it wasn't Leanne's post that first gave me this impression--it was another post talking about a "corrected address" to send cheques to. Since I hadn't previously read anything about the original address (or the amount of a $1 or $2), I was under the impression that larger donations were being requested. Consequently, I had the impression that there was some kind of crisis like Rhen had run into earlier. Thanks for straightening me out:) >Sorry for the confusion >Beth (who is answering for the archive this time) Not a problem:) Since I don't have any US cash handy, does anyone have suggestions on how to donate a few bucks from outside the US? (The service charges on a US cheque are astronomical; and we won't even *talk* about the &*%^%@$# exchange rate) Also, could you reprint that correct address again? I've managed to lose it in the shuffle;\ Margaret ****************************** Margaret Brignell brignell@capitalnet.com Ottawa, Canada %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% My fanfic now available at: http://www.capitalnet.com/~brignell/ ****************************** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:50:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sarah Murray Subject: Re: The L&C Fanfic Archive Needs Editors In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi FoLCs :) Just popping out of lurkdom to put in a (unsolicited! ;) plug for being a GE. I've been one since the archive started and have thoroughly enjoyed it. It gives me an excuse to actually set aside time to read fanfic, which is tough to do otherwise given the schedule of a college student I've had very positive experiences working with authors, and it keeps my proofing skills sharp. It does take some time (what Kathy mentioned is pretty accurate) but, hey, there are certainly worse ways to spend 5 hours a week than reading L&C fanfic :) Sarah scmurra1@students.wisc.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:32:34 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LLOYD RALSTON Subject: my fic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A Revelation & the Bullet by CiceroCat (cicerocat@mailcity.com) First of all, I'd like to thank all who looked over this and gave me their opinons and comments. And I'd especially like to thank Becky, my editor on this fic, without her persistance and patience this fic would never be here. If you would like to send me comments on this fic, good or bad, please send them to: cicerocat@mailcity.com Disclaimer: I don't own any of the characters (except for the Roberts---I made them up), they belong to WB & TNT. Also I'm using some of the original text---or as close as I can remember it---for some of these parts. Also the suit and acid idea came from the Superman cartoon that comes on the WB Saturday mornings. This takes place right at the end of "And the Answer Is..." So you might be a little lost if you hadn't seen it. Note: * * is emphasis ----------------------------------------------------------------- A Revelation Story (part 1) As Lois and Clark walked through the park, they hardly noticed they were approaching a fountain, the same fountain that Clark had gone by earlier to drop off the diamonds he had been blackmailed into stealing so Mazik wouldn't kill his parents. Lois's thoughts were elsewhere, thinking about the man--make that two men--in her life, until Clark wrapped his arm more tightly around her shoulder, bringing her back to the present. "We have to talk, Lois," he said. "Yes, we do," Lois agreed. "You go first." "Okay. First of all, I have to say that...that I love you and I will always love you, Lois. Ever since I first set eyes on you, I knew you were the special someone I was always looking for--searching for my whole life." "Oh, Clark...I love you, too," Lois replied, her voice breaking slightly and her eyes growing moist at the sincerity of his declaration. He smiled and then pulled her down onto the edge of the fountain. She looked expectantly into his brown eyes that were hidden behind his glasses, waiting for him to go on. This is definitely something major since he has that look in his eyes...Is he going to tell me now, she thought hopefully. Finally, after all this time? Clark gazed into her eyes and started to speak, "Lois, I--" But suddenly a lightning bolt flashed across the dark sky with thunder following in its wake. The rain fell soon afterwards. Clark, looking totally exasperated, turned and spoke to the sky, "C'mon, can't you just gimme a break once?!" "Clark, uh, do you want to get out of the rain?" Lois asked. "Lois, not even if the earth opened up at my feet would I move till I asked this," Clark said determinedly, sincerely, as he proceeded to get down on one knee. Her breath stilled at his seriousness. Uh oh, thought Lois, is this what it looks like? Is it...? "Lois, will you marry me?" Clark said as he pulled a small box from his pocket and opened it up to reveal a beautiful diamond engagement ring. It was hard to see his eyes through the water droplets clinging to the lenses of his glasses, but Lois knew they were filled with hope; and she suddenly felt a wave of confused, jumbled emotions run over her---love, anger and disappointment were just a few of them. Though this was what she had dreamed of, it irked her that Clark wouldn't reveal his secret to her first. The nerve of him, Lois thought, then quickly calmed herself down. After all, Clark was expecting an answer. She reached out as if to caress the side of his face and answered him, "Who's asking, Clark Kent or..." and she slid his glasses quickly off his face and stared deeply into his shocked brown eyes. "...Superman?" His mouth fell open, his bottom jaw practically hitting the ground at her revelation. Lois was satisfied by his reaction; Clark wasn't expecting this. He thought *he'd* have to tell her. After staring at each other for just a moment, Lois tittered, "Clark, that's not a very attractive look on you." And she closed his mouth. Slowly rising to his feet, Clark broke the prolonged silence, "Lois...we, uh, we should get out of the rain. It's cold and..." "Like you have to worry about that, Mr. Invulnerable-To-Everything," Lois snapped angrily, all her pent-up emotions bubbling to the surface. "I was more worried about you, after all you went through--being frozen and all--you might catch a cold," he said meekly, avoiding her harsh, piercing gaze. Clark wanted to get her somewhere, anywhere not public, so that if her voice continued to rise, no one could accidentally overhear them. And I am vulnerable when it comes to you, Lois, he thought. But saying so would probably just infuriate her further, so he kept that to himself. "It's *so* nice to know that you cared," she drawled, her voice dripping with sarcasm. Even though she really did appreciate knowing he cared about her, she didn't want that concept to interrupt her current train of thought. Realizing she really was cold and wet, she turned and walked off in a huff, Clark right behind her. They ended up underneath a building's marquee--its canopy was the closest shelter from the rain--and she stood shivering, waiting for him to say something to explain his reasons for keeping her in the dark for so long. "Lois, you're wet, I--" "Well duh, Clark, you know *that is* what happens when you go out in the rain without an umbrella." He ignored her sardonic retort and sighed, "I can dry you off in a jiffy, just hold still." Then he used his heat vision to remove all dampness from her clothes. Lois was secretly thrilled when he used his superpowers as Clark in front of her. She was almost afraid that he would try to deny that he was, in fact, the famed "Man of Steel," but she didn't let any of her emotions show through except her anger. "Show off," she murmured, but she knew he heard anyway from his smile. "I don't mind showing off for you, Lois," he replied softly as their eyes locked. Lois' anger subsided for a second, just a second, as he looked at her with his earnest, puppy dog eyes, begging to be forgiven. You aren't going to get off that easy, buster, she thought and glared at him. He sighed in resignation, this wasn't going to be easy for either of them. "Lois, we do need to talk," he finally said as the rain began to let up. "You bet we do! So ask away, I know you are dying to." "Okay..." he started, "how long have you known?" She was genuinely surprised at that question. "That's your first question? I thought you'd ask how I figured it out." "Yeah, well, that's tied with the 'How mad are you?' question," he said. Lois finally noticed that the rain had subsided considerably so she started walking aimlessly down the street and Clark followed her. Like he has a choice, she thought. "Okay," Clark asked again, "how long?" "Since yesterday." "How?" Lois turned to him, forcing him to stop. "When you did this," she said and put her hand on the side of Clark's face, touching him like Superman had touched her in her apartment right before he froze her with his superbreath. That day seemed like an eternity ago, Lois thought wistfully, wishing things could go back to being easy; where Clark Kent did not equal Superman and didn't bring up all these confusing and frustrating issues. But at least the truth was better than living in a constant lie. She recognized the realization in his eyes and said, "You did that as both Superman and as Clark Kent." "Oh," he said, and looked down at the wet sidewalk, avoiding eye contact with her again. Lois walked a bit further down the street, leaving Clark behind momentarily with his memories and allowing him time to collect his thoughts. After a moment, he caught up with her and asked, "So, how mad are you?" "I'm not mad," Lois said curtly. "Yeah, right, and I'm *not* Superman, but we both already know that's not true." In an attempt to control her voice and belie what she truly felt, she responded, "I'm not angry, I'm more...hurt." But Clark could sense the deep, painful emotions coursing through her and he felt very guilty that he was the source of them. "Oh," he replied. She whirled on him. "Why didn't you ever tell me!? Don't you trust me? Did you think I'd betray you to the world just for a story?" she shouted, mad at herself for the loss of control and the tears she could feel starting--and they weren't tears of happiness this time. Get a grip, Lane, she thought. He *is* *not* going to see you break down like this, about this. Stay strong! God, why can he always do this to me? He's the only one who could ever get to me like this. Why?! But even as she asked herself that, she knew the answer in her heart--she loved him with every bit of her being and she couldn't imagine living without him. That's why they had to get past this hurdle thrown in their path, so they could get back together again and be as close as they used to be, as they should be. She definitely wanted them to be back together. But will this change everything, she wondered? Can we ever go back to the way we used to be, so in love and content with each other? Yes, this will change everything, she decided, but the real question is--will it be for the better or for the worse--Lois simply didn't know. But she did know they were both strong, and if they were meant to be together, they'd overcome this obstacle and hopefully, in the process, be even that much more closer than they ever were before. Clark's brown eyes softened at the sight of her tears and at how she pulled herself together, determined to hide how much this bothered her. I've really hurt her by lying, haven't I? I never meant to...no one ever means to hurt the one they love, even if it's for their own good. Can I explain that to her, he wondered? That it was for her own good? Would she even listen? I have to try, for both of our sakes, he decided just as Lois began to impatiently tap her foot on the sidewalk. "Lois, I'm sorry I hurt you. Believe me, I never wanted to." Clark touched her cheek, quickly wiping away a lone tear which had streaked down from her eye before he pulled away, so afraid that she'd pull away first. Right now he didn't think he could stand rejection of any kind. "I-I never meant to cause you this much pain. I trust you with my life, Lois," he said with all the sincerity in his heart, hoping that Lois would see it and believe him. That she'd know exactly how much she meant to him. Clark hoped she could see that he had hated lying to her and wanted to tell her nothing but the truth now, but before it hadn't been possible. "Then why?" she asked, barely above a whisper, as the tears threatened again. Clark was furious at himself for being the cause of them. Suddenly, before he could respond, a sound caught his attention and he got a far-off, intent expression on his face as he slightly cocked his head to one side. "Clark?" Lois asked, and then it dawned on her what that expression meant---he was hearing, actually superhearing, something. It also explained why he always ran off at the most inopportune times conceivable with really lame excuses, like that one about the "Cheese of the Month Club." She approached him, recapturing his attention in the process, "What is it?" Clark's face had an anguished look on it; he didn't want to leave Lois as he had done countless times in the past--especially with this current problem. Clark felt that their relationship was in a delicate balance, that if something went wrong in the next few days, if something upset it, they might never be able to restore it like he so desperately wanted to do. And like always, it seemed that someone needed Superman right when they were in the middle of an important discussion. He sighed in frustration and exasperation, but at least Lois finally knew the real reason why he was always running off--no more lies. "I hear something...a cry for help," Clark said, and then jerked his head around as the noise got louder and even Lois could hear it. He started toward it, but turned back to look at Lois, silently asking, pleading with his eyes for her permission to go. She knew he'd stay if she asked him to, even though both of them would regret it. "Oh, go, Clark. Go...do your thing," she said in a slightly irked voice. But at least she knew why he was running off this time, that helped dissipate some of the anger she was feeling. "You're sure?" "Go!" Lois shooed him off with her hands. He smiled at her as he stepped back a bit from the sidewalk and quickly spun, transforming into Superman right before her ever-widening eyes. He grinned again, "I've wanted to do that in front of you for a long time," he said. This comment had a mollifying effect on her, and the anger she felt at him for running off again instantly disappeared. "I'll be right back, just don't go anywhere," he said, and then took off in a blue and red blur toward the screams. Lois was filled with awe and astonishment--she hadn't expected him to change right in front of her, nor had she guessed he'd really *want* to, so all she got out was a simple, "Wow!" Once she recovered somewhat, Lois took off after him; both to appease her curiosity and also for the chance to see Clark in action. She had seen him stop many muggings, robberies and the like before, but she had never thought of him as Clark doing those things. This is going to be a whole new experience, she thought as a tremor of excitement ran through her. * * * * * * continued in part two.... (Thanks Becky for cutting this up in appropriate sizes ;-) Please tell me what you think, this is my first ever fic (and first one completed of any kind I'm writing). Do you want me to continue posting this here? Btw, I'm going to send this to the archive as soon as I recieve confirmation on the address (email) to send it to. Has it changed since the move? --cc-- Lloyd Ralston Preferred Company lloydr@ldd.net ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:58:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: hi Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I know I am sticking my nose in where it doesn't belong, however... >Sandy said she was "taken aback" by Beth's reactive post to Leanne's...I >was appalled. *FoLC* do not act/react like this. These kind of hurtful >posts are the reason I left Highlander and La Femme Nikita...I just didn't >think the ppl were very nice. I usually don't care what people say on this list, its just we get newbies every day and I'd hate to see them unsubscribe because they may think this is an unfriendly list ( i just had a couple of people unsub today). This is my only reason, honest! I know writers are passoniate people! please remember that its much harder (for me anyway) to really express my feelings and tone of voice when we type out our words. I may come off brash when I state certain opinions as well, but, I don't think we need to begin name calling. I understand as soon as you send messages that you wish you could call them back, but if you need to do so [to send your soap-box emails], please do it privately. I hope you understand my point, and if I don't make sense, i have a cold and the Nyquil is starting to kick in. have a nice monday :) farah :) fchisham@indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 00:09:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Archive Proposal Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> In addition, the feeling I got was that my company was going to charge= the fanfic archive $300 a month to house this site. I have never once taken advantage of anything and do not intend on starting now. Ya, know Demi, I= knew better than to put the company name on the make payable line and I w= as worried about WB thinking we were profitting. I never guessed a folc woul= d think that of me. << Well, Beth, I can reassure you that the thought never crossed my mind, but, now that I think about it, I can also understand that you'd be very upset at the (real or imagined) implication; that sort of thing would mak= e me go ballistic, too. PJ who hopes that this thing will die quickly = as everyone calms down !^NavFont02F023A000FMGJHH3DMH3FHI3C1849 E-mail from: Pam Jernigan jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/folc.html Find all the IRC roundrobin fanfic / Featuring recommended fanfics ~~~~~ "I'm sorry, but Miles thinks he's a knight-errant. A rational government wouldn't allow him possession of a pocketknife, let alone a space fleet." --Cordelia Naismith Vorkosigan, discussing her son _Mirror Dance_ by Lois McMaster Bujold Distribution: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of S INTERNET:LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 22:17:28 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: OT: my new screensaver project... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0080_01BDC3E3.7EF32B60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01BDC3E3.7EF32B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all :) I know this really isn't fanfic list material, but with the other list = down, I needed to go somewhere to ask for help. =20 Have you guys seen those funny programs that will spontaneously pop = something up onto your screen every hour or so for a few secs while = you're working on something? Well, I'm having my hubby embark on a new = project now that my waving cape screensaver is done. :) (Aren't I a = slave driver? ) I thought it would be cool to find a program like that where I could = have him record from my LNC eps tapes that scene in VD at the end where = Jaxon pops up on the DP monitor yelling, "Noooo!" just before that cool = "duh duh-duh duhhhh" music ends the ep. (music and Jaxon yelling would = be included, of course ) You know the scene: the one where it looks = like he's trapped inside the computer? =20 Anyway, I thought it would be cool for the program to show the avi of = that scene on my computer screen every so often during the day. I'd = could be working on some doldrum spread sheet or something, and suddenly = have Jaxon appear on my screen yelling. Maybe I'd hate it after the = sudden and unexpected appearance of him yelling scares me to death. :) OK...MY POINT IS... Does anyone know of a program like this they = could recommend? Thought I'd pick your brains before having him search = the net for one. And of course I'd post the thing to my web page when it was done so that = anybody who wanted to download it, could. Thanks for putting up with this off-topic, cry-for-help post.=20 Erin :) aka ELK on IRC erink@ida.net ******************** "The truth is no one knows how long they've got. Anyway, it's not the = years that count, it's the moments...right now, as they happen." "You bet your sweet chumpy I am." ******************** ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01BDC3E3.7EF32B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all :)
 
I know this really isn't fanfic list material, but = with the=20 other list down, I needed to go somewhere to ask for help. = <g> =20
 
Have you guys seen those funny programs that will=20 spontaneously pop something up onto your screen every hour or so for a = few secs=20 while you're working on something?  Well, I'm having my hubby = embark on a=20 new project now that my waving cape screensaver is done. :)  = (Aren't I a=20 slave driver? <g>)
 
I thought it would be cool to find a program like = that where I=20 could have him record from my LNC eps tapes that scene in VD at the end = where=20 Jaxon pops up on the DP monitor yelling, "Noooo!" just before = that=20 cool "duh duh-duh duhhhh" music ends the ep.  (music and = Jaxon=20 yelling would be included, of course <g>) You know the = scene:  the=20 one where it looks like he's trapped inside the computer?  =
 
Anyway, I thought it would be cool for the program = to show the=20 avi of that scene on my computer screen every so often during the = day.  I'd=20 could be working on some doldrum spread sheet or something, and suddenly = have=20 Jaxon appear on my screen yelling. <g>  Maybe I'd hate it = after the=20 sudden and unexpected appearance of him yelling scares me to death.=20 :)
 
OK...MY POINT IS... <g>  Does anyone know = of a=20 program like this they could recommend?  Thought I'd pick your = brains=20 before having him search the net for one.
 
And of course I'd post the thing to my web page when = it was=20 done so that anybody who wanted to download it, could.
 
Thanks for putting up with this off-topic, = cry-for-help post.=20
Erin  :)
aka ELK on = IRC
erink@ida.net
 
********************
"The truth is=20 no one knows how long they've got.  Anyway, it's not the years that = count,=20 it's the moments...right now, as they happen."
 
"You bet your sweet = chumpy I=20 am."
********************
------=_NextPart_000_0080_01BDC3E3.7EF32B60-- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:56:54 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: my fic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:32 PM 8/9/98 -0500, you wrote: >Please tell me what you think, this is my first ever fic (and first one >completed of any kind I'm writing). Do you want me to continue posting this >here? Cat, if you don't hurry up and post the next part, I'm sending a hanging party by your house, just to give you some incentive! Yes, I'm enjoying it, and I want to read more. Sheila sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 00:09:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beth Guide Subject: Re: my new screensaver project... In-Reply-To: <008301bdc415$d086e2a0$0300a8c0@kids> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01BDC3F3.28AF7AA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BDC3F3.28AF7AA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Vueprint pro does all sorts of stuff like that. It has a trial period on it and is cheap to purchase if you like it. Beth -----Original Message----- From: Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic [mailto:LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU]On Behalf Of Erin Klingler Sent: Sunday, August 09, 1998 11:17 PM To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: OT: my new screensaver project... Hi all :) I know this really isn't fanfic list material, but with the other list down, I needed to go somewhere to ask for help. Have you guys seen those funny programs that will spontaneously pop something up onto your screen every hour or so for a few secs while you're working on something? Well, I'm having my hubby embark on a new project now that my waving cape screensaver is done. :) (Aren't I a slave driver? ) I thought it would be cool to find a program like that where I could have him record from my LNC eps tapes that scene in VD at the end where Jaxon pops up on the DP monitor yelling, "Noooo!" just before that cool "duh duh-duh duhhhh" music ends the ep. (music and Jaxon yelling would be included, of course ) You know the scene: the one where it looks like he's trapped inside the computer? Anyway, I thought it would be cool for the program to show the avi of that scene on my computer screen every so often during the day. I'd could be working on some doldrum spread sheet or something, and suddenly have Jaxon appear on my screen yelling. Maybe I'd hate it after the sudden and unexpected appearance of him yelling scares me to death. :) OK...MY POINT IS... Does anyone know of a program like this they could recommend? Thought I'd pick your brains before having him search the net for one. And of course I'd post the thing to my web page when it was done so that anybody who wanted to download it, could. Thanks for putting up with this off-topic, cry-for-help post. Erin :) aka ELK on IRC erink@ida.net ******************** "The truth is no one knows how long they've got. Anyway, it's not the years that count, it's the moments...right now, as they happen." "You bet your sweet chumpy I am." ******************** ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BDC3F3.28AF7AA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Vueprint pro does all sorts of stuff like that. It has a trial = period on=20 it and is cheap to purchase if you like it.
 
Beth
-----Original Message-----
From: Lois and Clark: = The New=20 Adventures of Superman Fanfic=20 [mailto:LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU]On Behalf Of = Erin=20 Klingler
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 1998 11:17 = PM
To:=20 LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU
Subject: OT: my new = screensaver project...

Hi all = :)
 
I know this really isn't fanfic list material, = but with=20 the other list down, I needed to go somewhere to ask for help.=20 <g> 
 
Have you guys seen those funny programs that = will=20 spontaneously pop something up onto your screen every hour or so for = a few=20 secs while you're working on something?  Well, I'm having my = hubby=20 embark on a new project now that my waving cape screensaver is done. = :)  (Aren't I a slave driver? <g>)
 
I thought it would be cool to find a program = like that=20 where I could have him record from my LNC eps tapes that scene in VD = at the=20 end where Jaxon pops up on the DP monitor yelling, = "Noooo!" just=20 before that cool "duh duh-duh duhhhh" music ends the = ep. =20 (music and Jaxon yelling would be included, of course <g>) You = know=20 the scene:  the one where it looks like he's trapped inside the = computer? 
 
Anyway, I thought it would be cool for the = program to show=20 the avi of that scene on my computer screen every so often during = the=20 day.  I'd could be working on some doldrum spread sheet or = something,=20 and suddenly have Jaxon appear on my screen yelling. <g>  = Maybe=20 I'd hate it after the sudden and unexpected appearance of him = yelling scares=20 me to death. :)
 
OK...MY POINT IS... <g>  Does anyone = know of a=20 program like this they could recommend?  Thought I'd pick your = brains=20 before having him search the net for one.
 
And of course I'd post the thing to my web page = when it=20 was done so that anybody who wanted to download it, = could.
 
Thanks for putting up with this off-topic, = cry-for-help=20 post.
Erin  :)
aka ELK = on IRC
erink@ida.net
 
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"The=20 truth is no one knows how long they've got.  Anyway, it's not = the years=20 that count, it's the moments...right now, as they=20 happen."
 
"You bet your = sweet chumpy I=20 = am."
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= ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01BDC3F3.28AF7AA0-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 13:48:37 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: Archive Proposal In-Reply-To: <199808100009_MC2-559F-90B3@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I have come into this discussion late, since I rarely read email over the weekend. I have no intention of getting involved in the arguments, or criticising anyone - I don't think that's what we're here for, or what anyone on this list wants to read. What I *do* want to say is that I had absolutely no idea that any FOLC was paying out of her/his own pocket to maintain the Archive, and I have to say that it makes me feel pretty ashamed of myself for taking the Archive for granted for so long, first as a reader and now as a writer as well (Kathy, I apologise profusely for those couple of 'where are my stories?' posts...). I'm glad the Archive has a new home; the speed and bandwidth offered by the new host sound great. So, first, my grateful thanks as a FOLC and lover of fanfic to Beth, Demi, Kathy and everyone else connected with running the Archive for giving up their free time, energy, and their own money to give us all so much pleasure and relief from LCWS. Second, I was on holiday in the USA earlier this year and I *know* I have some dollar notes - don't know what denominations - left over. I will send my contribution off ASAP, and hope that it helps. Wendy. ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 07:33:02 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Re: All Right, Alright ;) (Was Re: Archive Proposal) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980809212238.00ae0b30@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >The fact remains that the *only* reason anyone posted on this subject, >Leanne included, is because we *all* care about the future of FOLC fanfic, >and we want what's best for everyone involved. > Here, here, Demi. I immediately posted an "oops" when I realised my error of month vs. year which nobody seems to have read; and just for the record I never thought the costs were anything but real as I'm a member of a site (Pemberley) which *does* incur $300-$400 a month (and was probably where I got myself confused :). Incidentally, I've emailed queries and ideas to the committee there which were *politely* turned down with "we've already thought of that, thank you" And I only ever recall disagreeing with Demi a couple of times recently (and it was really over the same thing, so that counts as once right? :)) Beth -- Alyssa is our very able webmaster with Season 5 -- I couldn't even begin to tell you the costs associated with it, because that's her domain and she's never told me. Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:17:19 -0400 Reply-To: demona@shaw.wave.ca Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: All Right, Alright ;) (Was Re: Archive Proposal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D7FAFD02D63D4F6C0E4FBCD0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D7FAFD02D63D4F6C0E4FBCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't want in on this issue at all, except to make one comment: Leanne Shawler wrote: > And I only ever recall disagreeing with Demi a couple of times recently > (and it was really over the same thing, so that counts as once right? :)) *sigh* I'm not entirely pleased that I was brought into that argument as a bone of contention either. But what's done is done I suppose. It doesn't bother me when folks disagree with me. I expect nothing less from a group of intelligent people having a discussion. As a matter of course, I want to make clear that so far as I'm concerned, Leanne can disagree with me any time she wants to. ;) That goes for everyone else as well. The more the merrier, IMHO, since that's what discussion is all about. Besides, I would never ask anyone to keep silent with their point of view. We're all here to debate issues. I'm no better than anyone else, and I don't deserve special treatment. Take Care All, Demi --------------D7FAFD02D63D4F6C0E4FBCD0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Demi Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Demi n: ;Demi email;internet: demona@shaw.wave.ca x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------D7FAFD02D63D4F6C0E4FBCD0-- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:32:19 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: On the subject of grammar... MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Berners-Lee, Masinter & McCahill [Page 21] > >RFC 1738 Uniform Resource Locators (URL) December 1994 > > >APPENDIX: Recommendations for URLs in Context > > URIs, including URLs, are intended to be transmitted through > protocols which provide a context for their interpretation. > > In some cases, it will be necessary to distinguish URLs from other > possible data structures in a syntactic structure. In this case, is > recommended that URLs be preceeded with a prefix consisting of the > characters "URL:". For example, this prefix may be used to > distinguish URLs from other kinds of URIs. > > In addition, there are many occasions when URLs are included in other > kinds of text; examples include electronic mail, USENET news > messages, or printed on paper. In such cases, it is convenient to > have a separate syntactic wrapper that delimits the URL and separates > it from the rest of the text, and in particular from punctuation > marks that might be mistaken for part of the URL. For this purpose, > is recommended that angle brackets ("<" and ">"), along with the > prefix "URL:", be used to delimit the boundaries of the URL. This > wrapper does not form part of the URL and should not be used in > contexts in which delimiters are already specified. > > In the case where a fragment/anchor identifier is associated with a > URL (following a "#"), the identifier would be placed within the > brackets as well. > > In some cases, extra whitespace (spaces, linebreaks, tabs, etc.) may > need to be added to break long URLs across lines. The whitespace > should be ignored when extracting the URL. > > No whitespace should be introduced after a hyphen ("-") character. > Because some typesetters and printers may (erroneously) introduce a > hyphen at the end of line when breaking a line, the interpreter of a > URL containing a line break immediately after a hyphen should ignore > all unencoded whitespace around the line break, and should be aware > that the hyphen may or may not actually be part of the URL. > > Examples: > > Yes, Jim, I found it under type=d> but you can probably pick it up from ternic.net/rfc>. Note the warning in net/instructions/overview.html#WARNING>. > > > However, since most programs fail to properly implement this standard, keep the URL on one line if possible. You don't need the URL: part, instead of the "<" and ">" a carriage return before and after the URL work just as well (do not put any punctuation before the CR!) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel Madden Subject: Tip of the Day Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Don't pay any attention to this if you don't like Tips of the Day Tip of the Day: If at first you don't succeed, sky-diving is not for you. Laters, Rachel :) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 11:18:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Raymond, Melody" Subject: Re: Archive Proposal Comments: To: listserv-Indiana posts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="---- =_NextPart_000_01BDC47A.83F73574" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------ =_NextPart_000_01BDC47A.83F73574 Content-Type: text/plain Hi everyone, I am not a fanfic writer, but I am definitely a fanfic reader. I love reading all of your stories. I have being reading L&C fanfiction and the 5th seasons since last fall. I have read several hundred stories from the fanfic archive. I have also been reading nfic from Zoomway's archive, for the last six months, too. I have thoroughly enjoyed most everything I have read and I want to let all the authors know that I appreciate their hard work. When I first came across all the fanfic and web pages of authors and started downloading stories, I was amazed that it was all free. I would gladly participate in contributing to the cost of the archive. It is the least I can do for all the enjoyment you have given me. Lois and Clark are my favorite characters (Dean's my favorite actor--but that's another story), and I have long since fallen in love with them and their timeless story of true love. I am a romantic at heart. I encourage you all to keep up the hard work and keep creating stories for our enjoyment. Thanks again for your devotion to L&C fanfiction. I will be sending Moreen a check later this week. 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Sorry, but I couldn't get online anymore after I sent the first part in. Internet has been down till this time for us. I'm glad it's back :-) Btw--uhm, the name is confusing on this fic. Part 2, The Bullet is cut into several parts because it is much longer than the first part, A Revelation Story (part 1). So except in the range of, oh, 5 or 6 more sections to be posted periodically. I'm finally going to try to send this to the archive :) Thanks for wanting to hear more. Well on with the next part ;-) (Please once again, if you have any comments, or wish me to discontinue posting this fic, etc.. ect... please email me :O) --cc-- ----- Clark approached the nervous mugger from behind. The guy was dressed in black street clothes but wasn't wearing a mask--not a very wise move for a would-be mugger. He was aiming a strange-looking gun at a terrified young woman. Both the mugger and the young woman had startling green eyes and raven black hair, but no other characteristics really stood out. "Ahem!" Clark cleared his throat impatiently, drawing attention to himself. He wanted to get this over with quickly so he and Lois could get on with their "talk." The mugger whirled around to face Superman and leveled his gun at him. Will they never learn, Clark thought? Bullets can't hurt me. He sighed in exasperation, "I'm afraid that won't be very effective against me. Just give up now and no one will get hurt." He started to approach the man, holding out his hand for the gun, but the mugger stood his ground, gun cocked and ready to fire. He had no intention of willingly giving up his weapon to Superman. "No one 'cept you, Supes!" the jumpy, black-haired guy replied, quickly aiming the peculiar weapon at the Kryptonian's heart and pulling the trigger. At that moment Clark heard a noise from behind him. He turned a bit, momentarily forgetting the guy with the gun and, much to his dismay, spotted Lois approaching. Luckily, the mugger wasn't expecting his move and the bullet only grazed his left upper arm--Lois' distraction had probably saved his life. Clark winced as he felt a white hot flash of pain as the bullet made contact with his skin. Bullets don't feel like that, he thought. At least normal bullets don't....Clark discarded the thought momentarily, quickly whooshed forward and bent the perpetrator's gun in half and then promptly tied the man up. He heard a distant siren and knew the police would be there shortly. That's good, he thought, I'm not feeling so well...I feel...kind of...strange...?! Abruptly he dismissed those thoughts as well and returned to the more pressing matter at hand--to see if anyone was hurt. Clark turned to look at the young woman. She looked startled but uninjured. "Are you okay, miss?" he asked. She simply nodded at him and then continued to stare at the bound mugger lying on the ground with wide eyes and a strange expression on her face Clark couldn't quite place. Clark quickly left the alley and grabbed Lois as he left, his grip a bit too harsh. If it wasn't for her I wouldn't have been shot...he thought angrily. In his heart he knew that wasn't true at all, but he wasn't listening to his heart at the present time as a strange feeling of apathy and a dull pain were clouding his mind and judgement. Even he, on a certain level of awareness, was a bit surprised at the way he was thinking. "Oww! Ease up a bit, Clark. We don't all have superskin," Lois whispered once they were a safe distance away. She had seen him get nicked by the bullet but she didn't think he was hurt---being Superman and all. But she was slightly bewildered at the way he was acting now, so un-Superman like. "Sorry," he said gruffly, mad at himself for letting his emotions get the best of him. Clark was confused with his emotions and his loss of self-control, both of which he always managed to keep in check before. He had no idea why he was loosing it now; especially tonight of all nights, when his actions and answers to her doubtless hundreds of questions were so important in determining if he had any hope of a future with Lois relationship-wise. Then he realized he was also very angry at her; she could have been hurt! He would never be able to forgive himself if something ever happened to her, especially if he was there and capable of stopping it. "Why did you follow me?! I'd said I'd be right back. You could have gotten hurt!" he said in a none-too-gentle tone of voice. "Geesh! I'm a big girl, Clark, I know how to stay out of trouble..." she said. But when he gave her a dubious look that said 'Yeah, right!'...she quickly corrected herself, "...most of the time, that is. But anyway, I was in no danger back there, Clark." Then she noticed his angry glare and was even more confused by it than she was by his insensitive attitude. Both were so different from the Clark she knew and had grown to love. "Then *why* did you follow me," he asked, his tone of voice not changing. If anything, it was getting more and more accusatory and angry. "Afraid I'd just fly off and desert you?" She glowered at him in return. "Why are you so mad all of a sudden?! *No*, I did *not* think you'd leave!" Lois shouted angrily, feeling her own temper rising along with her voice at his sudden and surprising change in demeanor. Why is he being like this!? As Clark turned to leave, Lois called after him, anger making her voice rise even more--she wasn't quite screaming, but she was way too loud for Clark's comfort. "CLARK JEROME KENT!!! Don't you *dare* leave when I'm talking to you!" "A little louder, Lois, I don't think everyone in Gotham City heard you!!" he nearly snarled back at her. His eyes clearly showed the depth of his anger. She looked around her quickly, there weren't that many people out and no one seemed to be paying any attention to them nor were they really within ear shot. But she lowered her voice anyway when she responded. "Clark, *no one* heard us!" "Just because you know I'm Clark doesn't mean you can go calling my name out loud when I'm in the suit, Lois!" Clark ignored her last statement to continue on with his harangue of her. She crossed her arms, her anger just as evident as his, and hissed, "Fine, *Superman!* Happy now?" Clark sighed, shaking his head in exasperation, "Let's just get outta here. I'll drop you off at your apartment." "Are you going to stay there so we can talk?" she asked. They had a lot of unresolved issues and she wanted to fix them--tonight! One thing she really wanted to get to the bottom of was why he was so angry at her all of a sudden. It seemed like anything she said or did provoked him and made him even angrier--and she wanted to know why. "No," he merely stated, refusing to give an in-depth explanation. "Then," Lois said determinedly, "we'll talk at your place." "Fine!" He scooped her up, not with loving care like usual, but with an impersonal sense of duty, and started flying in the direction of his apartment. * * * * * * "Cyrus, you *moron*! You didn't kill him!" the black-haired lady screamed as she swatted at him in anger. She was so frustrated she was almost tempted to leave him tied up. Almost, but not quite. She sighed angrily as she stooped down and untied her dark-haired accomplice before the authorities arrived. "He moved," the man whined in defense as he wiggled the rest of the way out of his bonds. He hated guns--detested them--but staging a mugging was the only way they could think of to lure Superman close enough for them to get a clear shot at him--and he had botched that up quite well, he had to admit. "So?!" The woman raked her hand through her short hair in anger and frustration. At least we got him *here*, she thought, and he didn't recognize me; that's a plus. She didn't want Superman to suspect anything was up since clearly they'd have to try it again--thanks to that imbecilic partner of hers. Next time, she thought, I may just have to do it on my own if I want to get the job done right. I'll have to risk the fact that ol' Supes might recognize me, unless I can do something about that. Out in the better light there was a noticeable resemblance between the two, but even Superman wouldn't notice they were twins from a casual glance in dim light. "At least I shot him, Cic!" the man shouted proudly. Not everyone got the chance to shoot at the Man of Steel and got away to boast about it. " I actually shot Superman!" "Keep your voice down, imbecile, in case he's still around," the woman chastised harshly. "Besides, the bullet barely touched him, Cy. What good'll it do?" Her tone of voice did nothing to deflate his ego. "Well sure, Cicely, it wasn't enough to kill or impair him, apparently, but it worked, didn't it? You saw him get hurt, didn't ya? The blood? The new Hybrid K-bullet works, even a tiny bit wounded him! I wish he would've stuck around a bit longer, though, so we could've seen the full results..." he said as he absentmindedly rubbed his sore arm where Superman had gripped him a bit too hard. "You might get your chance, if you don't shut up, Cyrus!" she snapped irately. She wanted nothing to stop her plan now. And we all know how good the Man of Steel's hearing is, she thought to herself as she cast a hopeful look to the sky. No blue showing up yet, that's a good sign. Then she asked, "How long will the effects last?" "I dunno....maybe a day, two tops....why?" he asked, turning to look at her while still slightly rubbing his arm. "Well, we have two of Daddy's Hybrid-K bullets left," she answered, "That'll give us a little time to figure out a way to draw Supes to us again...maybe kidnap that Lane chick he likes so much...and finish the job. He'll be reckless, apathetic, 'cause of the Red. I wish Dad had used more Green K in the formula though, it would have hurt him more--maybe even have finished him off--but I couldn't be so lucky." As they walked past the few people actually out at this time, they continued talking excitedly, hatching a brand-new plan to destroy Superman. * * * * * * The Bullet (part 2) As they approached his apartment, Lois and Clark continued their heated conversation--if you could still accurately call it a conversation since they were nearly screaming at each other in anger. They were both letting their emotions get the better of them now, and they didn't care that the conversation had progressed from a discussion to an out-and-out shouting match. "You didn't tell me for *MY* protection, huh? So I wouldn't become a target if someone found out I knew your secret!" she yelled, throwing his words back at him. "Why don't you let ME have the right to decide what should be for 'my protection' next time, okay?" "Fine with me, Lois, but don't come whining to me if---" he stopped because deep inside he knew he was being unfair, but for some reason he really didn't care and he didn't know why. In fact, he wasn't sure why he was doing a lot of things tonight that were definitely not sensible. "Clark, you know I *never* come whining to you! Why would you even say such a thing?!" Lois asked with a puzzled expression on her face. He never acts this way! Why is he now!? "Is making up lies getting so easy for you that you can just pull them off the top of your head at a moment's notice now?" "Lois, I never lied to you, except for that one thing!" Clark snarled. "One MAJOR thing, Clark! Don't forget that!" Lois said. Keeping the fact that you were Superman from your best-friend, partner, and now girlfriend--she wondered if that would all be a thing of the past if Clark kept on acting like he was--for two years was major lying as far as she was considered. "How can I, Lois! Do you think it was easy for me to constantly lie to you about that? To watch you *fawn*," he drawled out the last word and waved his arms wide in emphasis, "...all over Superman and then not pay the least bit of attention to me, to Clark!" "That's silly, Clark. I never *fawned* over Superman. I was attracted, a strong attraction I admit, but I wasn't *fawning* over him," Lois mocked him in a disgusted tone of voice. She knew she was adding fuel to the fire by continuously using Clark's choice of words to describe her reactions around him as Superman, but right now she didn't care. She just wanted to clarify this whole mess. "Oh, puhleez, Lois!" Clark rolled his eyes in exasperation, clearly remembering how Lois swooned whenever the blue, tights-clad hero showed up at her window. Well, of course he had been feeding her fantasy when he did that, but at the time it was the only way he could get close to Lois in the way he so desired to be. "Whenever Superman' was mentioned, it was like I didn't exist because all you did was zero in on this infatuation you have with him." "Oh, well, Clark, it couldn't have been too hard on you, because you were actually receiving all my attention, oh wait, 'fawning,'" she said and hooked her fingers at his word. "That was fine for awhile," Clark returned, his voice clearly showing the emotions he still felt over that long ago time--part of the past that he didn't like to reflect on-- "Because I needed to see you, to touch and hold and talk to you as more than a just a 'hack from nowheresville' or your partner..." he drew close and touched her face briefly as if in demonstration. He paused briefly while Lois winced at the "hack from nowheresville" phrase. She had only used that in the beginning when she thought she was being paired up with some small-town rookie that she'd have to take under her wing. Clark stepped away and continued, "I figured I'd never get a chance beyond that. But I wanted you to love me for me, not for Superman." "That's ridiculous, Clark, you are Superman!" "No, Lois, I'm not. Superman is what I can do, Clark is who I am. Superman was just a disguise so I could help people. In fact, you were the one that gave him, me, the name. Beyond the name and a disguise, Superman isn't real, but Clark is." He paused trying to read her emotions to see if she was understanding any of this or if it was all pointless--only a moot point to be further debated. Sighing since he couldn't truly understand--or want to--all what was going on inside of her head now, after a moment continued picking up where he left off, "Do you see why it was so hard for me? I couldn't be my true self with you, as Clark or Superman, because as one I had to hide my true feelings and as the other, well, he really wasn't me." ---continued in part 3 of 7(?) Lloyd Ralston Preferred Company lloydr@ldd.net ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:33:42 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Regina Gilchrist Ash Subject: Re: my fic (aka A Revelation and a Bullet) Comments: To: "cicerocat@mailcity.com" Hi, CiceroCat, et al, I really enjoyed your fic. Please post the remainder asap...your title's very intriguing. (I love the in-between-and-after-the-fact stories...they make an already wonderful story even better.) Later, FoLC, Regina -- Regina Ash (rash@dnet.net) ************************************************ "Science, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke *********************************************** ---------- From: LLOYD RALSTON[SMTP:lloydr@LDD.NET] Sent: Sunday, August 09, 1998 11:32 PM To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: my fic A Revelation & the Bullet by CiceroCat (cicerocat@mailcity.com) First of all, I'd like to thank all who looked over this and gave me their opinons and comments. And I'd especially like to thank Becky, my editor on this fic, without her persistance and patience this fic would never be here. If you would like to send me comments on this fic, good or bad, please send them to: cicerocat@mailcity.com Disclaimer: I don't own any of the characters (except for the Roberts---I made them up), they belong to WB & TNT. Also I'm using some of the original text---or as close as I can remember it---for some of these parts. Also the suit and acid idea came from the Superman cartoon that comes on the WB Saturday mornings. This takes place right at the end of "And the Answer Is..." So you might be a little lost if you hadn't seen it. Note: * * is emphasis ----------------------------------------------------------------- A Revelation Story (part 1) As Lois and Clark walked through the park, they hardly noticed they were approaching a fountain, the same fountain that Clark had gone by earlier to drop off the diamonds he had been blackmailed into stealing so Mazik wouldn't kill his parents. Lois's thoughts were elsewhere, thinking about the man--make that two men--in her life, until Clark wrapped his arm more tightly around her shoulder, bringing her back to the present. "We have to talk, Lois," he said. "Yes, we do," Lois agreed. "You go first." "Okay. First of all, I have to say that...that I love you and I will always love you, Lois. Ever since I first set eyes on you, I knew you were the special someone I was always looking for--searching for my whole life." "Oh, Clark...I love you, too," Lois replied, her voice breaking slightly and her eyes growing moist at the sincerity of his declaration. He smiled and then pulled her down onto the edge of the fountain. She looked expectantly into his brown eyes that were hidden behind his glasses, waiting for him to go on. This is definitely something major since he has that look in his eyes...Is he going to tell me now, she thought hopefully. Finally, after all this time? Clark gazed into her eyes and started to speak, "Lois, I--" But suddenly a lightning bolt flashed across the dark sky with thunder following in its wake. The rain fell soon afterwards. Clark, looking totally exasperated, turned and spoke to the sky, "C'mon, can't you just gimme a break once?!" "Clark, uh, do you want to get out of the rain?" Lois asked. "Lois, not even if the earth opened up at my feet would I move till I asked this," Clark said determinedly, sincerely, as he proceeded to get down on one knee. Her breath stilled at his seriousness. Uh oh, thought Lois, is this what it looks like? Is it...? "Lois, will you marry me?" Clark said as he pulled a small box from his pocket and opened it up to reveal a beautiful diamond engagement ring. It was hard to see his eyes through the water droplets clinging to the lenses of his glasses, but Lois knew they were filled with hope; and she suddenly felt a wave of confused, jumbled emotions run over her---love, anger and disappointment were just a few of them. Though this was what she had dreamed of, it irked her that Clark wouldn't reveal his secret to her first. The nerve of him, Lois thought, then quickly calmed herself down. After all, Clark was expecting an answer. She reached out as if to caress the side of his face and answered him, "Who's asking, Clark Kent or..." and she slid his glasses quickly off his face and stared deeply into his shocked brown eyes. "...Superman?" His mouth fell open, his bottom jaw practically hitting the ground at her revelation. Lois was satisfied by his reaction; Clark wasn't expecting this. He thought *he'd* have to tell her. After staring at each other for just a moment, Lois tittered, "Clark, that's not a very attractive look on you." And she closed his mouth. Slowly rising to his feet, Clark broke the prolonged silence, "Lois...we, uh, we should get out of the rain. It's cold and..." "Like you have to worry about that, Mr. Invulnerable-To-Everything," Lois snapped angrily, all her pent-up emotions bubbling to the surface. "I was more worried about you, after all you went through--being frozen and all--you might catch a cold," he said meekly, avoiding her harsh, piercing gaze. Clark wanted to get her somewhere, anywhere not public, so that if her voice continued to rise, no one could accidentally overhear them. And I am vulnerable when it comes to you, Lois, he thought. But saying so would probably just infuriate her further, so he kept that to himself. "It's *so* nice to know that you cared," she drawled, her voice dripping with sarcasm. Even though she really did appreciate knowing he cared about her, she didn't want that concept to interrupt her current train of thought. Realizing she really was cold and wet, she turned and walked off in a huff, Clark right behind her. They ended up underneath a building's marquee--its canopy was the closest shelter from the rain--and she stood shivering, waiting for him to say something to explain his reasons for keeping her in the dark for so long. "Lois, you're wet, I--" "Well duh, Clark, you know *that is* what happens when you go out in the rain without an umbrella." He ignored her sardonic retort and sighed, "I can dry you off in a jiffy, just hold still." Then he used his heat vision to remove all dampness from her clothes. Lois was secretly thrilled when he used his superpowers as Clark in front of her. She was almost afraid that he would try to deny that he was, in fact, the famed "Man of Steel," but she didn't let any of her emotions show through except her anger. "Show off," she murmured, but she knew he heard anyway from his smile. "I don't mind showing off for you, Lois," he replied softly as their eyes locked. Lois' anger subsided for a second, just a second, as he looked at her with his earnest, puppy dog eyes, begging to be forgiven. You aren't going to get off that easy, buster, she thought and glared at him. He sighed in resignation, this wasn't going to be easy for either of them. "Lois, we do need to talk," he finally said as the rain began to let up. "You bet we do! So ask away, I know you are dying to." "Okay..." he started, "how long have you known?" She was genuinely surprised at that question. "That's your first question? I thought you'd ask how I figured it out." "Yeah, well, that's tied with the 'How mad are you?' question," he said. Lois finally noticed that the rain had subsided considerably so she started walking aimlessly down the street and Clark followed her. Like he has a choice, she thought. "Okay," Clark asked again, "how long?" "Since yesterday." "How?" Lois turned to him, forcing him to stop. "When you did this," she said and put her hand on the side of Clark's face, touching him like Superman had touched her in her apartment right before he froze her with his superbreath. That day seemed like an eternity ago, Lois thought wistfully, wishing things could go back to being easy; where Clark Kent did not equal Superman and didn't bring up all these confusing and frustrating issues. But at least the truth was better than living in a constant lie. She recognized the realization in his eyes and said, "You did that as both Superman and as Clark Kent." "Oh," he said, and looked down at the wet sidewalk, avoiding eye contact with her again. Lois walked a bit further down the street, leaving Clark behind momentarily with his memories and allowing him time to collect his thoughts. After a moment, he caught up with her and asked, "So, how mad are you?" "I'm not mad," Lois said curtly. "Yeah, right, and I'm *not* Superman, but we both already know that's not true." In an attempt to control her voice and belie what she truly felt, she responded, "I'm not angry, I'm more...hurt." But Clark could sense the deep, painful emotions coursing through her and he felt very guilty that he was the source of them. "Oh," he replied. She whirled on him. "Why didn't you ever tell me!? Don't you trust me? Did you think I'd betray you to the world just for a story?" she shouted, mad at herself for the loss of control and the tears she could feel starting--and they weren't tears of happiness this time. Get a grip, Lane, she thought. He *is* *not* going to see you break down like this, about this. Stay strong! God, why can he always do this to me? He's the only one who could ever get to me like this. Why?! But even as she asked herself that, she knew the answer in her heart--she loved him with every bit of her being and she couldn't imagine living without him. That's why they had to get past this hurdle thrown in their path, so they could get back together again and be as close as they used to be, as they should be. She definitely wanted them to be back together. But will this change everything, she wondered? Can we ever go back to the way we used to be, so in love and content with each other? Yes, this will change everything, she decided, but the real question is--will it be for the better or for the worse--Lois simply didn't know. But she did know they were both strong, and if they were meant to be together, they'd overcome this obstacle and hopefully, in the process, be even that much more closer than they ever were before. Clark's brown eyes softened at the sight of her tears and at how she pulled herself together, determined to hide how much this bothered her. I've really hurt her by lying, haven't I? I never meant to...no one ever means to hurt the one they love, even if it's for their own good. Can I explain that to her, he wondered? That it was for her own good? Would she even listen? I have to try, for both of our sakes, he decided just as Lois began to impatiently tap her foot on the sidewalk. "Lois, I'm sorry I hurt you. Believe me, I never wanted to." Clark touched her cheek, quickly wiping away a lone tear which had streaked down from her eye before he pulled away, so afraid that she'd pull away first. Right now he didn't think he could stand rejection of any kind. "I-I never meant to cause you this much pain. I trust you with my life, Lois," he said with all the sincerity in his heart, hoping that Lois would see it and believe him. That she'd know exactly how much she meant to him. Clark hoped she could see that he had hated lying to her and wanted to tell her nothing but the truth now, but before it hadn't been possible. "Then why?" she asked, barely above a whisper, as the tears threatened again. Clark was furious at himself for being the cause of them. Suddenly, before he could respond, a sound caught his attention and he got a far-off, intent expression on his face as he slightly cocked his head to one side. "Clark?" Lois asked, and then it dawned on her what that expression meant---he was hearing, actually superhearing, something. It also explained why he always ran off at the most inopportune times conceivable with really lame excuses, like that one about the "Cheese of the Month Club." She approached him, recapturing his attention in the process, "What is it?" Clark's face had an anguished look on it; he didn't want to leave Lois as he had done countless times in the past--especially with this current problem. Clark felt that their relationship was in a delicate balance, that if something went wrong in the next few days, if something upset it, they might never be able to restore it like he so desperately wanted to do. And like always, it seemed that someone needed Superman right when they were in the middle of an important discussion. He sighed in frustration and exasperation, but at least Lois finally knew the real reason why he was always running off--no more lies. "I hear something...a cry for help," Clark said, and then jerked his head around as the noise got louder and even Lois could hear it. He started toward it, but turned back to look at Lois, silently asking, pleading with his eyes for her permission to go. She knew he'd stay if she asked him to, even though both of them would regret it. "Oh, go, Clark. Go...do your thing," she said in a slightly irked voice. But at least she knew why he was running off this time, that helped dissipate some of the anger she was feeling. "You're sure?" "Go!" Lois shooed him off with her hands. He smiled at her as he stepped back a bit from the sidewalk and quickly spun, transforming into Superman right before her ever-widening eyes. He grinned again, "I've wanted to do that in front of you for a long time," he said. This comment had a mollifying effect on her, and the anger she felt at him for running off again instantly disappeared. "I'll be right back, just don't go anywhere," he said, and then took off in a blue and red blur toward the screams. Lois was filled with awe and astonishment--she hadn't expected him to change right in front of her, nor had she guessed he'd really *want* to, so all she got out was a simple, "Wow!" Once she recovered somewhat, Lois took off after him; both to appease her curiosity and also for the chance to see Clark in action. She had seen him stop many muggings, robberies and the like before, but she had never thought of him as Clark doing those things. This is going to be a whole new experience, she thought as a tremor of excitement ran through her. * * * * * * continued in part two.... (Thanks Becky for cutting this up in appropriate sizes ;-) Please tell me what you think, this is my first ever fic (and first one completed of any kind I'm writing). Do you want me to continue posting this here? Btw, I'm going to send this to the archive as soon as I recieve confirmation on the address (email) to send it to. Has it changed since the move? --cc-- Lloyd Ralston Preferred Company lloydr@ldd.net ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 17:55:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: Re: All Right, Alright ;) (Was Re: Archive Proposal) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:33 AM 8/10/98 -0800, you wrote: >which *does* incur $300-$400 a month (and was probably where I got myself >confused :). Okay, so it is $300-$400 a month. Where should I send my offertory check? And, please don't tell me I have to make it out to Dirty Harry again :). Seriously, I would like to contribute. Would whoever is the treasurer of this sight please email privately. farah :) fchisham@indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:46:48 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Angee Chaudhry Subject: Re: The L&C Fanfic Archive Needs Editors In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19980809215032.00709478@students.wisc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi Sarah, I hope I'm not getting the wrong end of the stick when I ask if the list is still looking for a GE? I did read the original request for one and was eager but a little reluctant to be one with my lifestyle (as I too am a student) but I too love reading fanfics and I may not be the best grammarian in the world but as a Journalism student I have the resources to make a good effort .. plus I've had great feedback from some of my fellow FoLCs helping me out in pointing out my week spots. thanks guys :-D What I'm trying to say is I am willing to help out as an Editor - I won't be offended if I'm not needed :-) And I'll be really happy if I am. So I'm here .... I'm not sure who first made this need public (although I remember reading it and forgive me for my temporary lapse in my memory, trust me, it is temporary .. ha ha) and posted it on the list and I may have got it totally wrong and that there really is no need for a GE anymore, but I'm able and I'm willing. Sincerely, Angee ------- In message <3.0.2.32.19980809215032.00709478@students.wisc.edu>, Sarah Murray writes >Hi FoLCs :) > >Just popping out of lurkdom to put in a (unsolicited! ;) plug for being a >GE. I've been one since the archive started and have thoroughly enjoyed >it. It gives me an excuse to actually set aside time to read fanfic, which >is tough to do otherwise given the schedule of a college student I've >had very positive experiences working with authors, and it keeps my >proofing skills sharp. It does take some time (what Kathy mentioned is >pretty accurate) but, hey, there are certainly worse ways to spend 5 hours >a week than reading L&C fanfic :) > >Sarah >scmurra1@students.wisc.edu -- Angee Chaudhry ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 01:23:43 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Angee Chaudhry Subject: Re: Writer's Showcase In-Reply-To: <137e6459.35ce1b4c@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi Annie, I too would really like to view, read and totally dive into this new website that you are putting together :-). I'm not sure what the survey is all about, I've been away and am still trying to catch up on all my post, but I'm putting my name forward for this great idea. Angee angee.chaudhry@fastc.demon.co.uk -- Angee Chaudhry ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 01:26:13 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Angee Chaudhry Subject: HELP! What was that about a change of address? MIME-Version: 1.0 There was mentioned a change of address in one of the recent Lois and Clark posts - was it of the archive? I did receive a post about some change of address but now I can't find it and I'm going crazy trying to find it ... help :-) Forgive me if anyone thinks me silly for asking :-) Angee -- Angee Chaudhry ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 01:32:25 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Angee Chaudhry Subject: All Right, Alright ;) (Was Re: Archive Proposal) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980810225533.006a7fe4@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 In message <2.2.32.19980810225533.006a7fe4@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>, Farah Meitzen Chisham writes >At 07:33 AM 8/10/98 -0800, you wrote: > >>which *does* incur $300-$400 a month (and was probably where I got myself >>confused :). > >Okay, so it is $300-$400 a month. Where should I send my >offertory check? And, please don't tell me I have to >make it out to Dirty Harry again :). > >Seriously, I would like to contribute. Would whoever >is the treasurer of this sight please email privately. > >farah :) >fchisham@indiana.edu I, as well as fellow UK FoLC's, would also like to help with this but being in the UK ... sending money is said to be really expensive. I'm not sure what to do but would like to help and I also don't know who it was who first put a message about it on the list so whoever it was, I hope that you can tell me how I can be of help :-D .. Yours (wondering sincerely how she can help), Angee, -- Angee Chaudhry ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 20:50:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Georgia E. Walden" Subject: Sorry, no Superman Calendar for 1999 from Slow Dazzle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I wrote to the Slow Dazzle people who had the lovely Lois and Clark calendar last year - here's the info: At 13:53 09/08/98 -0400, you wrote: >I purchased a Superman/Lois & Clark Calendar from your company last year. >It was a great calendar, particularly since there has been no Lois & Clark >merchandise available in the United States. > >Are you planning a similar one for 1999? I would appreciate any >information you can give me. Thank you. > >Georgia Walden > >gwalde14@mindspring.com > > Dear georgia Sorry, there will not be a 1999 Superman calendar. Maybe next year. We will have a range of terrific 1999 calendars. In a few weeks watch http://www.slowdazzle.com Regards Sheldon gwalde14@mindspring.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 21:53:36 -0400 Reply-To: x-lander@geocities.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Mark Safransky Subject: Re: HELP! What was that about a change of address? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angee Chaudhry wrote: > There was mentioned a change of address in one of the recent Lois and > Clark posts - was it of the archive? I did receive a post about some > change of address but now I can't find it and I'm going crazy trying to > find it ... help :-) > > Forgive me if anyone thinks me silly for asking :-) > > Angee > -- > Angee Chaudhry Here's the post you missed: FoLCs, I have an announcement to make! :) The Lois & Clark Fanfic WWW Archive has found a new home!! "We're up, we're good!" ... at ... http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/ Special thanks to Beth Guide, and "A Creative Touch Web Design" for granting us the added space and new living quarters we desperately needed! We've got well over 700 stories up, and it's growing exponentially, so that our old provider, graciously donated by Chris Paterson, was no longer big enough to keep us up, believe it or not! :) It is partly because of that, that the fanfic archive staff now has a bit of a personal request to the FOLCs. As all of you know, keeping an archive the size of ours up and running isn't a simple matter. We've got some really amazing people volunteering to make things work, and keep things running smoothly, but we've been footing an almost $300-400 per year bill to make it happen. Last year, Chris Paterson bought and set up a site specifically for the archive, and this year, A Creative Touch is thus far donating space which they have purchased. And so now we approach you all, the fans with a request. If you feel that you might want to help us out a little with perhaps a $1 or $2 donation, we could help take the cost of keeping the archive down for those FoLCs who have been paying on their own until now. This is by NO MEANS something we insist upon, we just thought we'd ask those of you who might have the means. If that is you, ACTWD will collect donations on behalf of the archive and the two young ladies who have been paying for it so far at: ACTWD 4180 Greenwood Drive Bethlehem, PA 18020 If anyone wants to write a check it needs to be made payable to ACTWD or Acreative Touch. We want to keep this archive up and active for as long as there are FoLCs in cyberspace :) And we'll do that, for as long as we can, no matter what. God bless you all, FoLCs and folks alike Keep writing!! ...and thank you. :) Demi __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com -- Mark Safransky x-lander@geocities.com http://safransky.simplenet.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:21:55 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Re: All Right, Alright ;) (Was Re: Archive Proposal) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19980810225533.006a7fe4@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >At 07:33 AM 8/10/98 -0800, you wrote: > >>which *does* incur $300-$400 a month (and was probably where I got myself >>confused :). > >Okay, so it is $300-$400 a month. Where should I send my >offertory check? And, please don't tell me I have to >make it out to Dirty Harry again :). > >Seriously, I would like to contribute. Would whoever >is the treasurer of this sight please email privately. > Farah, It's not per month but per year. I was referring to the other group I belong to (Pemberley) that does have that kind of running costs. $300- $400 a year is actually very reasonable. Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 19:37:09 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Having been villified ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I am as eager as Demi (and no doubt everyone else on this list) to be getting beyond this, however I feel I need to clear a couple of things up. My only mistake in my original "archive idea" post was to think that it was $300 a month, not a year, as Demi so quickly pointed out to me and I likewise quickly apologised for. Duh to me on that one. If I had any doubts about the integrity, honesty or good will of Beth's company, I would have out and out said so. Beth made the error of assuming I thought this when I made my post. Nothing was further from my mind (having experienced such a site that *is* that expensive) and so I was as shocked as anyone else when I was flamed for thoughts and opinions I did not and have never possessed. How could anyone know Beth's track record over the last year as a devoted FoLC and think this?! I trusted and believed that what Beth (and Demi, as she posted the announcement) said it cost, it actually cost. I was merely putting forward an alternate idea that I did not know they had already considered. Sincerely, Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 22:23:30 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Strange Attachment (was Re: All Right, Alright) Comments: To: demona@shaw.wave.ca In-Reply-To: <35CF0EFF.8EDA9617@shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:17 AM -0400 8/10/98, demona wrote: >Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Description: Card for Demi >Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" > >Attachment converted: 1 Gig HD:vcard.vcf (TEXT/MSWD) (0000BDFE) Demi, Just wanted you to know that I've received a couple list posts from you recently that contained an attachment, as listed above. When you open it up, it contains: begin: vcard fn: Demi n: ;Demi email;internet: demona@shaw.wave.ca x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard I didn't say anything the first time since I figured it was just a fluke, but now that it's happened twice, I wanted to let you know. I assume your mailer is just doing something weird. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@webmart.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 22:52:27 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: The L&C Fanfic Archive Needs Editors In-Reply-To: <1S0zYSAoZ4z1IwKX@fastc.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:46 AM +0100 8/11/98, Angee Chaudhry wrote: >So I'm here .... I'm not sure who first made this need public (although >I remember reading it and forgive me for my temporary lapse in my >memory, trust me, it is temporary .. ha ha) and posted it on the list >and I may have got it totally wrong and that there really is no need for >a GE anymore, but I'm able and I'm willing. I made the need public. I am the Editor-in-Chief of the L&C Fanfic Archive. That means that I take all the stories that have been submitted (yes, the address gets forwarded to me) and take care of having them reviewed for spelling (though all authors should spell-check before they even think of submitting something, either to the fanfic list or to the Archive) and rudimentary punctuation and grammar (I'm talking basics here ... my number one rule is that the editor should not do more work on a story than the author has). I also am responsible for getting each story rated (G, PG, PG-13) and a 1-3 sentence description written for our front end site. And yes, it's a lot of work -- we've had somewhere around 150 stories submitted in the last 11 months. Since I can't possibly edit all the stories myself, I have a great staff of editors helping me out. These are the "General Editors" I posted about last week. The number of GEs I've had one staff has ranged from 6 to 12 over the eleven months. Right now I'm at 7, and need more. The GEs on my staff have been incredible and very hard working, but I really am hoping to lessen their load by spreading the work out among more people. I've been heartened by all the "applications" that have been sent to me. As has been posted here before, and as I've responded to the occasional person who's written to me rudely demanding to know why we don't update the Archive more regularly, etc., (Wendy, this does not include you ... you've been nothing but polite. :)), we are all volunteers who do this job. We all have jobs and families and friends and commitments, both on and off-line. But we also all love fanfic, and all love the Fanfic Archive. And that's why we donate our time (and money) to keeping it alive. I have really appreciated all the wonderful "thank you" posts I've seen this weekend. It's great knowing that you appeciate what we've been doing. We'd probably do it anyway, but the kudos really do let us know that our efforts aren't being ignored. Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive <------- please note new address! kbrown@webmart.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 10 Aug 1998 23:03:00 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: sixth season? In-Reply-To: <87add8c7.35cdd2e1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:48 PM -0400 8/9/98, Layney Dixon wrote: >Is there going to be a sixth season of S5...err...S6? And if so, when can we >anticipate the season premiere? Oh....and what channel [site] will it be >airing on? Yes, Layney, there is an S6 in the works. We are planning to do approximately 11 episodes, spread out over 9 months or so. As an off-shoot of S5, we are continuing from where we left off with those 22 episodes. We are made up of approximately half S5 writers and half new writers. (New to the project that is. Everyone on staff is an outstanding L&C fanfic writer with work already on the Archive and/or S5 website.) We don't have an exact date for our premiere yet, but we will be providing more information as we get closer to the time. At this point, I'm thinking late Sept or early October, but it really depends on how are first 3 writers are coming with our opening trilogy. (And that's all the spoilers you are going to get until we are ready to air our promos. ) Episodes will be posted to this Fanfic listserv, as well as made available on the S6 website. Alyssa is doing our website again (she did an incredible job with S5). I would imagine the address will be similar to the S5 one, but again, we'll provide more specific info when we are ready to set an premiere date. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@webmart.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 01:55:09 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: I'm *not* the list mom here ;) and a bonus flashback ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I've gotten several e-mails from people asking me to stop the flames and all that, but I am *not* the list mom on the fanfic list. I am list mom on the currently (and lately *chronically*) crashed LOISCLA discussion list. I know they both have LOISCLA in the address, but this one also has GENERAL-L in the title and so it's not the same list. Believe me, if this had been on the other list, I'd have gotten to send out all those cool warnings and threats to kick your butts off the list ;) So please, no more notes requesting I take action, this isn't my list. If it would make you feel better, I could yell at you anyway I'm not sure if it's because it's getting close to time for school to start back up, vacations ending, not getting a vacation, too much heat, or that next month ABC will bring back Fantasy Island But we've gotten kind of cranky here (is that Tempus yelling "Duh!" in the background? ;) Let's get back on track a little, and if we feel argumentative, let's make sure it's about grammar, spelling and whether that little trail of hair from Dean's navel that disappears into his waistband should have the official acronym TTP (trail to paradise). I'm going to give you a flash from the past. Almost exactly two years ago the following list of titles was posted to LOISCLA (the *other* list) It was a compilation of titles fan came up with for what they felt would be good honeymoon epidose titles. Keep in mind this was written in August before 4th season aired and before we had any idea what the episode would be titled. This is also a reminder that the main objective of being a FoLC is to have fun .. and worship L&C of course ;) Oh, *CLARK!* FINALLY! Around the World in (Just) a Cape This Is *No* Mishap Speechless in Metropolis That Better Not Be Kryptonite In Your Underwear... Thank God, Jimmy's Out of Town Christmas at Clark's A Major Power Surge This Better Be Reality You *are* a Bottomless Pit... How To Join The Mile-High Club Without A Plane The Real Steel Deal The Stone Boy Hit Me With Your Rythym Stick The Way You Just Touched Me! (Hello! Duh!) Sleepless in Metropolis The Perfect Mattress MoonShot Ode to Joy Together, Forever Tonight is the Night Squeeze Me, Squeeze Me Can't Get Enough The Night of Love Give It To Me Clark learns a lesson What is that?! Lois takes care of her friend... You should see him take out the garbage.. Oh Clark, stop being so modest! Clark's cheeks blush And how did it make you feel? Again?! Little tornado takes on Washington monument. No laughing matter.. Superman finds a secret cave Jimmy, take off my dress.. WCK (with Clark Kent) And you thought Kryptonite made CK groan.. Putting the paper to bed the marathon man tool time Beauty and the Beast with Two Backs The XXX-Files Educating Clark Clark: The Undiscovered Country It Happened All Night Lois Gets a Good Look at Clark's Snorkel Super Studd Not Always Faster Than A Speeding Bullet Free Willy We Waited Months for That?! How fast Can Superman Go? Hard as Steel Fly Me to the Moon Is That a Banana in Your Pocket, or . . . Virtue is Destroyed Lois Discovers She *Does* Like Bananas They're Real, and They're Spectacular Man of Steel Virtueless Reality Patience Rewarded Some Things Are Worth Waiting For" *Super*man Hallelujah Title already used but would have been better here . . . "Contact" The South Shall Rise Again This Is How It Works Can I Touch You... There? Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me (But don't drop me in mid-air) You're Makin' Me High Clark's Big Night Close Encounters of the Best/Erotic Kind Going Undercover Hallelujah! Guess Who's Sleeping In My Bed? (an editorial, by Lois Lane) The Great Moment It Couldn't Happen To A Nicer Guy In The Heat Of The Night The Lady Takes A Flyer The Superman Cometh A Night To Remember Oh, God! (I'm not sure if this is a title, or one the lines ) She Gets Her Man One Heavenly Night It Had To Happen It Happened One Night It Should Happen To You (I WISH!) All The Way Home (Finally!) Fun With Lois and Clark Boom! Can't Help Singing (30 years of celibacy is finally over ) The Day That Shook The World The Eagle Has Landed Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me All I Want For Christmas (is Christmas Lights that work ) Minute's up Clark! Come for Mama!!! Where No Clark Has Gone Before? Hard as a Rock (of Kryptonite ?) The Moan Heard Round the World Clark Loses His Patience Where no Krptonian Has Gone Before I Wanna Know What Love Is It's About !@#$ Time How Do You Spell Relief? Pardon Me, Miss, But I've Never Done This... Lois Gets An Exclusive Dancin in the Sheets Yes, Lois, the Outfit Actually Comes Off Red Boots Diary Fortress of Gratitude Who is Lois Lane, and Why Can't She Stop Smiling? The Night Has a Thousand Sighs Crossing the Threshold Live and Let Sigh A View to a Thrill Clark Kent Gets Lucky The Big Bang Theory They don't call him Superman for Nothing! And lastly, acronyms that had their meanings temporarily altered by Dom Melaragni: WAFF - Watch Another Fondling Fest FOLC - Fantasies of Libidinous Cyberspace WHAM - We're Haggling about Matrimony LOL - Lots of Licentiousness THWAP - Time-Honoured Ways and Positions GTO - Gratification Taken Orally GUTTER - Global Utterances that Transmit Erotic Reveries Zoomway@aol.com (my what a smutty bunch we are ... er were ;) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 00:27:05 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sara Kraft Subject: One more grammar question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just something I've seen in a few fanfics.... Which is grammatically correct? Or, is it just a matter of writing style? "She threw *that* idea out the window." OR "She threw *that* idea out the proverbial window." Sara --------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:03:31 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: One more grammar question... In-Reply-To: <199808110727.AAA17338@pegasus.azstarnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Just something I've seen in a few fanfics.... > > Which is grammatically correct? Or, is it just a matter of writing style? > > "She threw *that* idea out the window." > > OR > > "She threw *that* idea out the proverbial window." > No preference on the presence or absence of 'proverbial', but what about 'of', as in 'out *of* the window'? Although for conversational purposes, the 'of' does tend to get omitted. Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:10:49 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: I'm *not* the list mom here ;) and a bonus flashback ;) In-Reply-To: <39dee32c.35cfdcbe@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII First we had the spelling/grammar debate. Then Zoom wrote: "It was a compilation of titles fan came up with for what they felt would be good honeymoon epidose titles." Epidose? Is this a new word to describe a l-e-n-g-t-h-y spell in front of the VCR watching L&C tapes? Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:34:50 -0400 Reply-To: lindah46@erols.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Linda Hoffman Organization: PWD Subject: Re: I'm *not* the list mom here ;) and a bonus flashback ;) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Zoomway wrote > This is also a reminder that the main objective of being a FoLC is to have fun > .. and worship L&C of course ;) > > Oh, *CLARK!* > FINALLY! > Around the World in (Just) a Cape > This Is *No* Mishap > Speechless in Metropolis > That Better Not Be Kryptonite In Your Underwear... > Thank God, Jimmy's Out of Town > Christmas at Clark's > A Major Power Surge > This Better Be Reality > You *are* a Bottomless Pit... > How To Join The Mile-High Club Without A Plane > The Real Steel Deal > The Stone Boy > Hit Me With Your Rythym Stick > The Way You Just Touched Me! (Hello! Duh!) > Sleepless in Metropolis > The Perfect Mattress > MoonShot > Ode to Joy > Together, Forever > Tonight is the Night > Squeeze Me, Squeeze Me > Can't Get Enough > The Night of Love > Give It To Me > Clark learns a lesson > What is that?! > Lois takes care of her friend... > You should see him take out the garbage.. > Oh Clark, stop being so modest! > Clark's cheeks blush > And how did it make you feel? > Again?! > Little tornado takes on Washington monument. > No laughing matter.. > Superman finds a secret cave > Jimmy, take off my dress.. > WCK (with Clark Kent) > And you thought Kryptonite made CK groan.. > Putting the paper to bed > the marathon man > tool time > Beauty and the Beast with Two Backs > The XXX-Files > Educating Clark > Clark: The Undiscovered Country > It Happened All Night > Lois Gets a Good Look at Clark's Snorkel > Super Studd > Not Always Faster Than A Speeding Bullet > Free Willy > We Waited Months for That?! > How fast Can Superman Go? > Hard as Steel > Fly Me to the Moon > Is That a Banana in Your Pocket, or . . . > Virtue is Destroyed > Lois Discovers She *Does* Like Bananas > They're Real, and They're Spectacular > Man of Steel > Virtueless Reality > Patience Rewarded > Some Things Are Worth Waiting For" > *Super*man > Hallelujah > Title already used but would have been better here . . . "Contact" > The South Shall Rise Again > This Is How It Works > Can I Touch You... There? > Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me (But don't drop me in mid-air) > You're Makin' Me High > Clark's Big Night > Close Encounters of the Best/Erotic Kind > Going Undercover > Hallelujah! > Guess Who's Sleeping In My Bed? (an editorial, by Lois Lane) > The Great Moment > It Couldn't Happen To A Nicer Guy > In The Heat Of The Night > The Lady Takes A Flyer > The Superman Cometh > A Night To Remember > Oh, God! (I'm not sure if this is a title, or one the lines ) > She Gets Her Man > One Heavenly Night > It Had To Happen > It Happened One Night > It Should Happen To You (I WISH!) > All The Way Home (Finally!) > Fun With Lois and Clark > Boom! > Can't Help Singing (30 years of celibacy is finally over ) > The Day That Shook The World > The Eagle Has Landed > Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me > All I Want For Christmas (is Christmas Lights that work ) > Minute's up Clark! Come for Mama!!! > Where No Clark Has Gone Before? > Hard as a Rock (of Kryptonite ?) > The Moan Heard Round the World > Clark Loses His Patience > Where no Krptonian Has Gone Before > I Wanna Know What Love Is > It's About !@#$ Time > How Do You Spell Relief? > Pardon Me, Miss, But I've Never Done This... > Lois Gets An Exclusive > Dancin in the Sheets > Yes, Lois, the Outfit Actually Comes Off > Red Boots Diary > Fortress of Gratitude > Who is Lois Lane, and Why Can't She Stop Smiling? > The Night Has a Thousand Sighs > Crossing the Threshold > Live and Let Sigh > A View to a Thrill > Clark Kent Gets Lucky > The Big Bang Theory > They don't call him Superman for Nothing! > I had to come out of lurkdum to tell Zoom: it's 6:15 in the morning and I'm sitting in my cube at work. Laughing over the above titles. My co-workers (the few that are here with me) are giving me very strange looks. I cannot explain why I'm laughing. They just shake their heads and walk away. It's a great way to start a work day. Thanks. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:54:13 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rowan Fuller Subject: Re: Sorry, no Superman Calendar for 1999 from Slow Dazzle Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I visited the Slow Dazzle site a few days ago and it seems you can still get the 1998 L&C calendar from them if anyone is interested. It is ashame there won't be a 1999 one and I'm afraid I'm not interested in any that they are offering for next year. What does anyone think about the chances of a 2000 one? L&C will be ancient tv history by then won't it? I guess we can just hope. Thank you Georgia for the information because I had started to think about a new Superman calendar myself when someone said there were Teri Hatcher 1999 calendars in London. In a message dated 11/08/98 01:23:34 GMT, you write: << I wrote to the Slow Dazzle people who had the lovely Lois and Clark calendar last year - here's the info: At 13:53 09/08/98 -0400, you wrote: >I purchased a Superman/Lois & Clark Calendar from your company last year. >It was a great calendar, particularly since there has been no Lois & Clark >merchandise available in the United States. > >Are you planning a similar one for 1999? I would appreciate any >information you can give me. Thank you. > >Georgia Walden > >gwalde14@mindspring.com > > Dear georgia Sorry, there will not be a 1999 Superman calendar. Maybe next year. We will have a range of terrific 1999 calendars. In a few weeks watch http://www.slowdazzle.com Regards Sheldon gwalde14@mindspring.com >> ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:13:30 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Annette Ciotola Subject: Re: I'm *not* the list mom here ;) and a bonus flashback ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-11 01:56:09 EDT, you write: << whether that little trail of hair from Dean's navel that disappears into his waistband should have the official acronym TTP (trail to paradise). >> I give a *BIG* two thumbs up for that!!!!!!!!! hehe Anne :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:51:49 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Roseann Buonadies Subject: Re: Wedding Night title suggestions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-11 01:56:27 EDT, Zoomway wrote: << Virtue is Destroyed Lois Discovers She *Does* Like Bananas They're Real, and They're Spectacular >> So glad I read these before everyone in the office arrived. It would have been very embarassing trying to explain why my head was on the keyboard. If I may add to my favorites above... an oldie but a goodie Sixty Minute Man Take care everyone, Roseann Buonadies (still laughing) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:27:27 -0400 Reply-To: salymc@gateway.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Organization: GWNET Subject: OFF TOPIC: Missing E-Mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: I've noticed that I've been missing some e-mail. Having relied solely on the trusty NAS for all my e-mail needs in the past, this is a new experience for me. So, if anyone has sent me a private e-mail over the last 24 hours (or maybe since early July ; ) which may have required an answer, please forward it to me again and we'll see what happens. Thanks a lot, Sandy -- Gateway, my new whipping boy. salymc@gateway.net http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 07:56:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jeff Brogden Subject: LCFL: Too much of a good thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit New topic for discussion (I hope). Or even a story idea! Having gone through the last three months in misery, seeing three doctors (a fourth is coming up), taking 4 different medications, having numerous blood tests and seeing the insides of a radiology department (and *my* insides) more times than I care to count, I'm finally going to have my gall bladder removed. Then, maybe I can eat without getting sick. Which is not a cool thing, since you need to eat to stay alive, but doing so makes you ill. All this got me to wondering. We've all heard phrases such as these (or similar ones): "Too much of a good thing is a bad thing." "Can't have something for nothing." "No such thing as a free lunch." "Don't look a gift horse in the mouth." Everyone assumes that since Superman is, well - *super*, then he has perfect health. What if his super-ness was also causing some hidden health problem? The yellow sun gives him his powers. What if they discovered that in order to get those powers, Clarks body was giving up something else? What if Clark started to get sick, and for no *apparent* reason? What if it was discovered, that just being on this planet was the cause of all his problems? What would Lois and Clark do? What would be the problem? What would Clark have to sacrifice in order to be the Man-Of-Steel? (Maybe he becomes impotent! Viagra to the rescue?) ================================================================= Jeff Brogden jwbrogden@bigfoot.com http://www.bigfoot.com/~jwbrogden/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:15:11 -0400 Reply-To: demona@shaw.wave.ca Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: LCFL: Too much of a good thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff Brogden wrote: >What if Clark started to get sick, and for no *apparent* reason? > What if it was discovered, that just being on this planet was the > cause of all his problems? What would Lois and Clark do? What > would be the problem? What would Clark have to sacrifice in order > to be the Man-Of-Steel? Oh my gosh, Jeff, that sounds like a great idea for a fanfic! Are you writing it? And if not, do you mind if I play with that one a little? I love angst in the midst of WAFFs...what a SUPER idea. ;) Demi demona@shaw.wave.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:47:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Emily Angerer Crawford Subject: Re: One more grammar question... In-Reply-To: from "Wendy Richards" at Aug 11, 98 11:03:31 am Content-Type: text > No preference on the presence or absence of 'proverbial', > but what about 'of', as in 'out *of* the window'? Although > for conversational purposes, the 'of' does tend to get > omitted. This is one of those things that falls under the "My seventh grade teacher told me..." heading. Actually I forget which teacher. She said that the word pairings "off of" and sometimes "out of" were redundant, that the "of" is just an unnecessary colloqialism tacked on there. I can certainly think of situations where you really could not leave the "of" out, as in, "I am out of here," but that in itself is a colloquialism! But most of the time the "of" really is unnecessary and can be dropped in the interest of avoiding wordiness. That being said, I will add that I frequently fail to follow this rule, and I don't worry about it unless I am doing particularly formal writing. I'm one of the most verbose writers I know -- I am rarely interested in avoiding wordiness! So this is one of those "do whatever feels natural" rules. 8-) Cheers, -Emily -- Emily Crawford/Warbler on IRC ccsupec@helen.oit.gatech.edu "Thus grew the tale of Wonderland: thus slowly, one by one, Its quaint events were hammered out -- and now the tale is done; And home we steer, a merry crew, beneath the setting sun." -Lewis Carroll ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:58:54 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: -Audrey Howard Subject: Re: LCFL: Too much of a good thing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hmmm.... sounds like an interesting storyline to me!!! :-) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:03:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Hall, Melissa" Subject: Re: One more grammar question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > Just something I've seen in a few fanfics.... > > Which is grammatically correct? Or, is it just a matter of writing > style? > > "She threw *that* idea out the window." > > OR > > "She threw *that* idea out the proverbial window." > Sounds more like you're asking about adding 'proverbial' to the sentence, and as far as I can remember (without having my lovely little grammar book in front of me) you can add an adjective to a noun almost anytime without messing with 'proper sentence structure', so both sentences seem correct. Misha ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:11:04 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandra McDermin Subject: Re: LCFL: Too much of a good thing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >>Having gone through the last three months in misery, seeing three doctors (a fourth is coming up), taking 4 different medications, having numerous blood tests and seeing the insides of a radiology department (and *my* insides) more times than I care to count, I'm finally going to have my gall bladder removed. Then, maybe I can eat without getting sick. Which is not a cool thing, since you need to eat to stay alive, but doing so makes you ill.<< Real sorry to hear about this, Jeff. I wondered where you had been.... I was hoping a vacation.:( >>What if Clark started to get sick, and for no *apparent* reason? What if it was discovered, that just being on this planet was the cause of all his problems? What would Lois and Clark do? What would be the problem? What would Clark have to sacrifice in order to be the Man-Of-Steel? (Maybe he becomes impotent! Viagra to the rescue?)<< I also think you have a good idea here. The thought reminds me a bit of a recent nfic by Anne Pinzow called "Endurance Testing" (or "Endurance Test"). In her story, Clark becomes sick after his run-in with Deathstroke from B&C&L&C. It's so difficult to find ways of temporarily defeating Clark that I always appreciate a new spin on it -- so to speak. It's also a very well written story. Speaking of fic ideas, I wondered if those doing soul mate type stories had done one using Lex Luthor as was originally intended by TPTB. I'd like to read that. ********* On another topic: > Just something I've seen in a few fanfics.... > Which is grammatically correct? Or, is it just a matter of writing > style? > "She threw *that* idea out the window." > OR > "She threw *that* idea out the proverbial window." >>>Sounds more like you're asking about adding 'proverbial' to the sentence, and as far as I can remember (without having my lovely little grammar book in front of me) you can add an adjective to a noun almost anytime without messing with 'proper sentence structure', so both sentences seem correct. Misha<<< Ahh, but Misha, is this saying cliche enough to warrant the term proverbial? ; ) Sandy -- I duck for rotten tomatoes salymc@gateway.net (when it works) http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:03:47 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Wendy Richards Subject: Re: One more grammar question... In-Reply-To: <199808111347.JAA09574@helen.oit.gatech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:47:09 -0400 Emily Angerer Crawford wrote: > > This is one of those things that falls under the "My seventh grade teacher > told me..." heading. Actually I forget which teacher. She said that the > word pairings "off of" and sometimes "out of" were redundant, that the "of" > is just an unnecessary colloqialism tacked on there. I can certainly think > of situations where you really could not leave the "of" out, as in, "I am > out of here," but that in itself is a colloquialism! But most of the time > the "of" really is unnecessary and can be dropped in the interest of > avoiding wordiness. > I should preface what I say by pointing out that I am talking *British* English grammar here, but 'off of' would be considered *wrong*, *ugly* and *never* to be used! 'Out of' is the correct form, though the 'of' may occasionally not be used in speech. examples: "she got out of the car" "he went out of the room" "the cat jumped out of the window" Wendy ---------------------- Wendy Richards w.m.richards@hrm.keele.ac.uk ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:16:37 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Hall, Melissa" Subject: Re: LCFL: Too much of a good thing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain > Ahh, but Misha, is this saying cliche enough to warrant the term > proverbial? ; ) > _That's_ not grammar. *blinks sleepily* And I refuse to rate a saying's cliche factor before my second cup of tea. Anyone else, however, is free to do so. Misha ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 10:59:38 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: One more grammar question... In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:03 AM 8/11/98 +0100, you wrote: >> Just something I've seen in a few fanfics.... >> >> Which is grammatically correct? Or, is it just a matter of writing style? >> >> "She threw *that* idea out the window." >> >> OR >> >> "She threw *that* idea out the proverbial window." >> > >No preference on the presence or absence of 'proverbial', >but what about 'of', as in 'out *of* the window'? Although >for conversational purposes, the 'of' does tend to get >omitted. > In the genitive case, the 'of' is understood to be there and may be omitted. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | My personal FoLC/MATH website | | "What's done to children, they will do to society." - Karl Menninger | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:01:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Emily Angerer Crawford Subject: Re: One more grammar question... In-Reply-To: from "Wendy Richards" at Aug 11, 98 03:03:47 pm Content-Type: text Wendy Richards wrote: > > I should preface what I say by pointing out that I am > talking *British* English grammar here, but 'off of' would > be considered *wrong*, *ugly* and *never* to be used! 'Out > of' is the correct form, though the 'of' may occasionally > not be used in speech. > > examples: > > "she got out of the car" > "he went out of the room" > "the cat jumped out of the window" I think these are very good examples of where the "of" is required, particularly the first two. The use of "out of" implies that the subject was *in* to begin with, whereas "out" alone would be used to mean "through", only with an implied direction. You would never say "she got out the car", because that would sound like she was taking the car out of something that it was in; "she got out of the car" says she was in the car to begin with, and is now out. "He went out the room" is total nonsense. The third case is more confusing. "The cat jumped out the window" would mean that the cat was inside and went through the window to go outside, but "the cat jumped out of the window" suggests that the cat was sitting/standing in the window (e.g. on the sill) and then left the vicinity of the window. So in answer to the original question about "out *of* the window", I would now have to say that "out of" would be correct in the case of someone being *in* the window first, and "out" would be the correct case for someone going *through* the window. To say "out of" in the latter case would be the colloquialism to which I originally referred, and is incorrect in the same way "off of" is. But both *are* heard used in spoken (American) English. -Emily -- Emily Crawford/Warbler on IRC ccsupec@helen.oit.gatech.edu "Thus grew the tale of Wonderland: thus slowly, one by one, Its quaint events were hammered out -- and now the tale is done, And home we steer, a merry crew, beneath the setting sun." -Lewis Carroll ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:14:17 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: I'm *not* the list mom here ;) and a bonus flashback ;) In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:13 AM 8/11/98 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 98-08-11 01:56:09 EDT, you write: > ><< whether that little trail of hair from Dean's navel that > disappears into his waistband should have the official acronym TTP (trail to > paradise). > >> > >I give a *BIG* two thumbs up for that!!!!!!!!! > > >hehe >Anne :) > I think you should make the 'Fuzzy Navel' the offical Gutter Club drink. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | My personal FoLC/MATH website | | "What's done to children, they will do to society." - Karl Menninger | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:47:25 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: LCFL: Too much of a good thing In-Reply-To: <35D03F9A.8D5F07B6@bigfoot.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:56 AM 8/11/98 -0500, you wrote: > >What if Clark started to get sick, and for no *apparent* reason? >What if it was discovered, that just being on this planet was the >cause of all his problems? What would Lois and Clark do? What >would be the problem? What would Clark have to sacrifice in order >to be the Man-Of-Steel? (Maybe he becomes impotent! Viagra to >the rescue?) > As the resident male expert ;-) I should point out that 100% of men develop prostate cancer. Fortunately, in most men it is a very slow cancer and we die of something else first. Of course, a story where Jonathon gets ill, and Clark develops a concern for his own health could show how the mind can heal/hurt the body. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | My personal FoLC/MATH website | | "What's done to children, they will do to society." - Karl Menninger | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:12:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Farah Chisham Subject: I AM the list mom In-Reply-To: <39dee32c.35cfdcbe@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I though my post in reference "hi" was meant to stop the flaming. No more, or you will get kicked off permanently! That is all On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, The Zoomway wrote: > I've gotten several e-mails from people asking me to stop the flames and all > that, but I am *not* the list mom on the fanfic list. I am list mom on the > currently (and lately *chronically*) crashed LOISCLA discussion list. I know ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:15:28 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Farah Chisham Subject: Re: I AM the list mom In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII By the way, I *hate* pulling rank! On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, Farah Chisham wrote: > I though my post in reference "hi" was meant to stop the flaming. > No more, or you will get kicked off permanently! That is all > > On Tue, 11 Aug 1998, The Zoomway wrote: > > > I've gotten several e-mails from people asking me to stop the flames and all > > that, but I am *not* the list mom on the fanfic list. I am list mom on the > > currently (and lately *chronically*) crashed LOISCLA discussion list. I know > Farah Meitzen Chisham fchisham@indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:35:38 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sandra McDermin said: >> Speaking of fic ideas, I wondered if those doing soul mate type storie= s had done one using Lex Luthor as was originally intended by TPTB. I'd like = to read that. << Yep, in fact we've had Lex in all of them... There was the wicked baron in The Falcon, the cattle rancher Judd Lucas in The Lone Rider, Alessandro(?) in The Sea Hawk, and Eichi in The Tai (coming soon, really,= I'm not kidding...). In fact, the Tai is the first time we used Tempus a= t all... we cast him as Eiji, Lex's younger twin brother = (Irrelevant side note: The Tai (coming soon!) is set in Japan. = Japanese names, I'm told, use suffixes to indicate birth order. -chi is for the first son, -ji for the second. So Eichi and Eiji are Ei the firs= t and Ei the second which we enjoyed. They were also known, informally= , as Thing One and Thing Two ) And of course Leanne's First Impressions had Lex in quite a prominent rol= e. We FOLCs don't have to worry about whether the actors are available PJ !^NavFont02F033D0015MGHHGhMGoHGABMGADHJ3E58E2 E-mail from: Pam Jernigan jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/folc.html Find all the IRC roundrobin fanfic -- Featuring recommended fanfics ~~~~~ "That would be me. Superman's girlfriend, Clark Kent's wife, Kal-El's concubine. Former girlscout, present reporter, future mental patient. Time traveller, dimension hopper, soul migrator..." Lois reflects on her life, in _Always Something There to Remind Me_ by Zoomway Distribution: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of S INTERNET:LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:04:03 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandra McDermin Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sandra McDermin said: >> Speaking of fic ideas, I wondered if those doing soul mate type stories had done one using Lex Luthor as was originally intended by TPTB. I'd like to read that. << >>Yep, in fact we've had Lex in all of them... There was the wicked baron in The Falcon, the cattle rancher Judd Lucas in The Lone Rider, Alessandro(?) in The Sea Hawk, and Eichi in The Tai (coming soon, really, I'm not kidding...). In fact, the Tai is the first time we used Tempus at all... we cast him as Eiji, Lex's younger twin brother << Really?! Could someone please take each of these stories, carefully and meticulously prune all indications that they are roundrobin in origin, and send them to me asap? Thank you. Sandy -- "You have exactly ten seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!" Max Bialystock, The Producers, 1968. salymc@gateway.net http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:40:42 -0400 Reply-To: demona@shaw.wave.ca Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sandra McDermin wrote: >Really?! Could someone please take each of these stories, carefully and > meticulously prune all indications that they are roundrobin in origin, and > send them to me asap? Well Sandy, my dear, I know I participated in a couple of these Round Robins myself, and I'm sure I speak for all the talented authors who wrote, when I say that you are *so much more* than welcome to grab copies of the stories as-are, and "carefully and meticulously prune" them to your personal reading pleasure -- yourself. Best Regards! ;) Demi demona@shaw.wave.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:47:02 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: LCFL: Too much of a good thing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-11 11:46:06 EDT, gar8434@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU writes: << As the resident male expert ;-) I should point out that 100% of men develop prostate cancer. Fortunately, in most men it is a very slow cancer and we die of something else first. Of course, a story where Jonathon gets ill, and Clark develops a concern for his own health could show how the mind can heal/hurt the body. >> And if someone is going to write this and wants to know websites with info on prostate cancer ask me soon before I delete those bookmarks. I was recently doing research for a friend who did end up deciding on the surgery. --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:49:43 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: One more grammar question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-11 10:57:01 EDT, gar8434@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU writes: << >> Which is grammatically correct? Or, is it just a matter of writing style? >> >> "She threw *that* idea out the window." >> >> OR >> >> "She threw *that* idea out the proverbial window." >> Well is the window real or isn't it? That might make the difference. --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 13:01:40 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) In-Reply-To: <8525665D.005C18BE.00@smtpmta.nas.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Sandra McDermin said: > Really?! Could someone please take each of these stories, carefully = and > meticulously prune all indications that they are roundrobin in origin, = and > send them to me asap? WHAT?!?!?! Is that really *SANDY* talking about possibly reading something that began life as a round robin?!? Be still my beating heart! Next thing you know she'll be turning up in #L&CFanfic -- will wonders never cease? (Sandy, you know you'd be welcomed with open arms if you ever did show up in #L&CFanfic. Then again, considering how little I've been in there, you may already be a regular! ;) Peace occasional robin.... um... round robin-er... um... oh, you know what I mean! ;) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:35:20 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Doris Schmill Subject: Problems reading list emails In-Reply-To: <19980811050008.6383.gmx.1@mx1.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" August 11, 1998 Hi, guys, I have only recently been able to follow the list again. I have been having some problems reading it, though. I am receiving the list in digest form; my email client is Eudora Pro 3.X. While most of the posts in the digest read fine, some contained cryptic lettering and funny print codes or something. With this last digest, there was one post that was entirely gibberish. I cannot tell you exactly what it looked like since I am reading with my ears only. My question is, though, if it would be possible to post the mails in a way that all email programs can read and decipher then> I have no idea on the technical side of this, but would it help to just post plain text? Or do any of you have an idea how I can set Eudora to read all kinds of mails? I would really appreciate any input as I enjoy following this list a lot and am really grateful o be able to follow it again. :-) Thanks a bunch. Doris ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:42:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Doris Schmill Subject: Grammer, spelling, synonyms, etc. In-Reply-To: <19980811050008.6383.gmx.1@mx1.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" August 11, 1998 Hi, guys, Just a quick note here. I, for one, have enjoyed and appreciated the exchange on grammar, synonyms, etc. I know I am at least a little weird, but I enjoy these mechanics and consider them important tools for any writer's work. As a non-native speaker of English, I am always happy to learn something new that might help me with my own writing or appreciate the art of others. I hope we will be able to continue discussing such things, too, on this list if the need arises -- or we just feel like it. these mechanics are all part of language and writing, the two of which go into a story and thus into each fic we write or read. Thus I find it appropriate to have discussions like this on this list occasionally. Keep reading and writing everyone! doris ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:46:04 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lansbury 1 Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/11/98 1:44:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, demona@shaw.wave.ca writes: << Sandra McDermin wrote: >Really?! Could someone please take each of these stories, carefully and > meticulously prune all indications that they are roundrobin in origin, and > send them to me asap? >> Dear Sandy, I don't know if you meant to be insulting when you made the above statement but, let me say, I took great offense to it. I am proud of my connection to L&C Fanfic Round Robin and I feel honored to write with the wonderful talented people I have met there. I feel we have given to our reading audience, stories of high caliber premises with skillful writing techniques in addition to many, many moments of laughter and joy. When you say to remove all evidence from a story that it was written in an RR you are taking away the sense of accomplishment a writer feels when his/her name appears above what he/she has written. That is the beauty and charm of an RR. Appreciating and rejoicing with a writer. Whether it be a novice or a seasoned veteran writer. If you don't like RR that is your right, please, just don't taint the art form because you yourself don't happen to like it. But, one final comment, if you should happen to read an RR intact, you might be pleasantly surprised. Perhaps even feel like writing to a writer of a section you particularly enjoyed to offer words of praise and encouragement. Who knows, your words of praise might be what the writer needs to hear to move on to write again and again. Annie Lansbury ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:14:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandra McDermin Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii << Sandra McDermin wrote: >Really?! Could someone please take each of these stories, carefully and > meticulously prune all indications that they are roundrobin in origin, and > send them to me asap? >> >>Dear Sandy, I don't know if you meant to be insulting when you made the above statement but, let me say, I took great offense to it. I am proud of my connection to L&C Fanfic Round Robin and I feel honored to write with the wonderful talented people I have met there.<< Dear Annie: It was a joke, plain and simple. My arrogance was in thinking that everyone would know what I was speaking about, and I apologize for that.... You see, 1) I don't read roundrobins as Peace (and some others know). 2) I asked whether anyone had written anything using Lex in Soulmates. 3) Pam responded, "Yes!!!" Practically all (I'm assuming) the roundrobin Soulmates have Lex in them! Voila! I was getting exactly what I wanted, but I didn't know it!!! Funny, don't you think? Well, *I* thought so. So, I jokingly said with tongue greatly in cheek as is evidence by the ridiculousness of the following request: >>Really?! Could someone please take each of these stories, carefully and meticulously prune all indications that they are roundrobin in origin, and send them to me asap? Thank you.<< To top it off, I signed it in a way that shows that I recognized my utter stupidity: >>Sandy -- "You have exactly ten seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!" Max Bialystock, The Producers, 1968.<< Other than our interaction on the tutorial, Annie, we don't know each other so you probably didn't know what I was getting at. >>But, one final comment, if you should happen to read an RR intact, you might be pleasantly surprised. Perhaps even feel like writing to a writer of a section you particularly enjoyed to offer words of praise and encouragement. Who knows, your words of praise might be what the writer needs to hear to move on to write again and again.<< Psst. Don't let anyone know, but I have read one, and I enjoyed it. Take care, Sandy ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:39:31 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) In-Reply-To: <8525665D.006D7F09.00@smtpmta.nas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:14 PM 8/11/1998 -0400, Sandra McDermin wrote: >Dear Annie: >It was a joke, plain and simple. My arrogance >To top it off, I signed it in a way that shows that I recognized my utter >stupidity: Ahh.. :) That would explain why the rest of us hadn't felt the impact of imminent laughter inherent in an obvious joke. ;) ....we have yet to reach the "utter" stage. Demi (I'll look forward to it though! As long as it's not painful, I'm all for spontaneous evolution.. ;) _______________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- You gotta dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never gonna hurt. --- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. ________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:36:40 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandra McDermin Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sandra McDermin wrote: >Really?! Could someone please take each of these stories, carefully and > meticulously prune all indications that they are roundrobin in origin, and > send them to me asap? >>>Well Sandy, my dear, I know I participated in a couple of these Round Robins myself, and I'm sure I speak for all the talented authors who wrote, when I say that you are *so much more* than welcome to grab copies of the stories as-are, and "carefully and meticulously prune" them to your personal reading pleasure -- yourself. Best Regards! ;) Demi demona@shaw.wave.ca<<< Ah, but one asks for so little in this world. Regards back at ya, Sandy salymc@gateway.net --> Corporate motto: Some days we actually deliver our customers e-mails. Nice weather we're having in Iowa, though, isn't it? http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:44:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 re: Lex in RoundRobin stories, Sandy wrote: >> Really?! Could someone please take each of these stories, carefully a= nd meticulously prune all indications that they are roundrobin in origin, an= d send them to me asap? << And then various people took varying levels of offense at that. = Please, everyone, calm down. Sandy has long made it known that she's not= fond of round-robin type stories in general (and I can see her point, I'v= e read RR stories that were simply unreadable); this has nothing whatsoever= to do with the quality of our particular round robin stories, which she h= as not read. She has now decided that she'll give us a try, and that's very= generous of her, I feel. If she needs a little help getting over her prejudice, I'm willing to provide it. Sandy, I've "pruned" a copy of The Lone Rider which I'm sending to your gateway address (the author list was maintained, but I moved it to t= he bottom of the file). I think you'll find that it's better than you'd expected, and if you like, I encourage you to read the rest of them (unpruned) at my webpage. If not, no one's wasted too much time. And I reiterate that Leanne wrote a soulmates-type story (First Impressions) as well, which is neither a round-robin nor related to our (very loose) continuity. :-) PJ !^NavFont02F04170014MGHHGmMGoHGB6MGB8HK_4D2E E-mail from: Pam Jernigan jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/folc.html Find all the IRC roundrobin fanfic -- Featuring recommended fanfics ~~~~~ "That would be me. Superman's girlfriend, Clark Kent's wife, Kal-El's concubine. Former girlscout, present reporter, future mental patient. Time traveller, dimension hopper, soul migrator..." Lois reflects on her life, in _Always Something There to Remind Me_ by Zoomway Distribution: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of S INTERNET:LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 16:01:09 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:14 PM 8/11/98 -0400, Sandra McDermin wrote: >Psst. Don't let anyone know, but I have read one, and I enjoyed it. Sandy, I'm delighted :) Was it, by any chance, one that was discussed on this list? Sheila sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 17:44:16 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-11 12:36:35 EDT, you write: << Yep, in fact we've had Lex in all of them... There was the wicked baron in The Falcon, the cattle rancher Judd Lucas in The Lone Rider, Alessandro(?) in The Sea Hawk, and Eichi in The Tai (coming soon, really, I'm not kidding...). In fact, the Tai is the first time we used Tempus at all... we cast him as Eiji, Lex's younger twin brother >> I think the reason Lex is used (no offense intended to Lex) is that he is a much simpler, easier villain to write than Tempus. Maybe it sounds better if I say he's the more 'classic' style villain ;) A rich man who has lots of resources at his command. Enough money to have lackies take the fall for him and so on. He's a villain type that's been around for hundreds of years. His villainous ancestors strode across the stage to boos and hisses. Always taken seriously and as an horrific threat. He desired the female lead in the play/movie/series and would try and buy her. Failing that, there was bribery and threats "I'll throw your destitute mother into the streets unless you marry me!" (the villain always seemed to hold the mortgage ;) Once the Lex type of classic villain became so predictable and repetitive, the arts created the Tempus type of villain. A parody of Lex and his ilk. Tempus wanted the female lead because *she* had the power Tempus requires large doses of humor and sarcasm (though he was evolving into someone darker by his last appearance) It's funny because Gene Hackman's portrayal of Lex Luthor was of the Tempus school of villainy. These are villains who are self-aware. They know they are throwing the world into chaos (Lex did not want the world in chaos, he couldn't use it) They think of themselves as "the bad guy" and are rather proud of that. Where Lex wanted to get away with things and never have the dirt get on his hands, Tempus reveld in an 'audience' knowing he was behind the bad things happening. Several fanfic writers have said that Tempus is hard to write, and I think part of that is a tribute to the actor Lane Davies. Even if you turn the sound down on the TV, you can see *it* in his face. Without the facial expressions, vocal inflections and that great laugh, Tempus can easily sound like Jason Trask on paper, a very humorous man even when he was employing humor. Shea was great portraying Lex, but because he was playing the traditional type villain, getting the character right in a story isn't as tied to the actor as with Tempus (and to an extent Mindy Church is tied to actress Jessica Collins ... sounds gutterish ;) What helps us as readers is visualizing Davies delivering the lines, but he is much more difficult to get a handle on when writing for some fanfic authors. Lastly, I think that with historical romances, and that's what Soulmates stories are in a sense, there's a tendency to drift towards a more 'courtly' portrayal of characters, and Lex's type of villain is much more common in such settings. It's all too easy to write that type of historical story with almost no humor, like people didn't yock it up hundreds of years ago And so Lex becomes the choice because his type of villain has been around throughout history and fits in so easily with the courtly approach. Zoomway@aol.com (aren't yuou glad it wasn't on the round-robin thread? ;) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 17:46:20 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: message from Beth Washington about NEFF Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit ---------------------- Forwarded by Beth Washington/AM/Avid on 08/10/98 05:28 PM --------------------------- Hi all... You have been probably wondering if Jen and I fell off the face of the planet since my last email, and if we are still planning the New England FoLC Fest (NEFF). Well, we have been busy, but we are still planning, and NEFF is still happening, Columbus Day weekend, October 9-12, 1998. If you missed my first email, let me know, and I will forward it to you. We have pretty much secured that K Callan will be joining us for the weekend. We only have to provide her with a plane ticket, and probably a hotel room. I will be talking with K this week to iron out some of the details. We are working on getting other guest, but nothing promising so far. If you have an IN, would you be willing to lend us a hand? Also, I will be looking into a hotel this week, nailing down the location, room prices, function rooms, video rooms, food for the costume party, etc. I am also trying to decide what script we should use for the script reading. I don't have many scripts -- so if you have a suggestion for a script we can use AND have a copy of said script, email your suggestions directly to me at . If I don't have a copy of that script, I will need to get a copy of it, and I need all of your help for that, either to send me a copy, or tell me where I can get one. I spent the day in Boston yesterday picking up brochures for possible activities in the Boston area and the prices associated with them. I will be organizing an activity list in the near future for people to choose from. Some activities cost more than others, and some activities require reservations. I'm also looking for Trivia questions for the trivia contest. Send me your best Lois & Clark trivia questions (with the answers, of course), and Jen and I will compile a list for the contest. We have started to gather prizes for the trivia and costume contests. One of the prizes is an original copy of the bloopers tape that I edited and Zoom is distributing. Other items will include copy of scripts and other such items as Jen and I can find. If you have access to Lois & Clark items that are generally hard to find, I would appreciate help in that department too! There will also be a T-shirt, designed by moi, that we will be distributing to everyone who attends NEFF. We will also make it available to everyone, in sizes S-3XL. Prices will be posted at a later date. Just a little heads up, because we are supporting a celebrity (or celebrities, as luck might have it) coming to NEFF, the fest fee will be a little higher than it was two years ago. Jen and I are looking at charging $100 for the fest fee, which will include the plane tickets for the celebs coming, function and video rooms, food for the party and prizes for the contests, T-shirts, and any left overs help pay for the NEFF good-bye breakfast on the last day. The last time we ended up with enough money to pay more than half of the bill. We are totally non-profit, and we'd like to keep it that way! If ALOT more people sign up, we may be able to lower the fest fee to $75. The fest fee does not cover hotel rooms or activites outside of the hotel, however, we are trying to find a hotel that charges $100 or less per night per room, regardless of the number of occupants, to help make the fest more affordable. Here is the list of people who have signed up so far. If you don't see your name on this list and are interested in coming, please email me privately at , and please include your full name, first and last, so I can better keep track of who is who. Also, please tell me if you are are under 18, because you will either need parental permission (16-18) or be accompanied by a parent (under 16), or ifyou have any special needs that we need to consider. The more information, the better we can plan. So don't miss out! Email me today. ---------- Definitly want to come Beth Washington Jennifer Bassett Donna Burton Erin Erin Vance > Maggie Sharon -need a name- Eryn LaPlant Gillian Tanz Janemarie Raiteri Bobbett Anne Ciotola K Callan (Guest) Maybe, not sure Shannon Callahan Melissa (Misha) Hall Christy Melody Raymond Katy Probably not, but interested all the same Carole Temple Avia Tikotsky Susan ---------- Official sign-up sheets and hotel information will be coming soon, probably within the next 2 weeks, and only those who have emailed me with their intereste will get one. So don't put off what you can do today! Email me and say; " I ' M C O M I N G ! ! ! " Hope to see you all here in Boston!!! -Beth (aka Biffer) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ Co-organizer of NEFF with Jennifer Bassett at Email me at for more information about NEFF NEFF = New England FoLC Fest, October 9-12, 1998 in Boston --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 18:11:28 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: Problems reading list emails In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980811143520.0077c5bc@pop.gmx.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:35 PM 8/11/98 -0400, you wrote: >August 11, 1998 > >Hi, guys, > >I have only recently been able to follow the list again. I have been having >some problems reading it, though. > >I am receiving the list in digest form; my email client is Eudora Pro 3.X. > Since you're on digest, people have to stop sending attachments to the list (whether intentional or not) or the list has to filter them out. If you get the list as separate emails, then you can have the attachments be saved to a temporary directory to be deleted later. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | My personal FoLC/MATH website | | "What's done to children, they will do to society." - Karl Menninger | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 17:53:44 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Problems reading list emails In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980811143520.0077c5bc@pop.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 2:35 PM -0400 8/11/98, Doris Schmill wrote: >I cannot tell you exactly what it looked like since I am reading with my >ears only. My question is, though, if it would be possible to post the >mails in a way that all email programs can read and decipher then> I have >no idea on the technical side of this, but would it help to just post plain >text? What you got as jibberish, Doris, was probably an attachment accidentally sent to the list. I'm set to Digest for the LOISCLA list, and the same thing happens with attachments there. It's just the way the digest form reads non-text files. It's not anything your emailer is doing wrong. Just keep going the way you are going and don't worry about it. Attachments are not supposed to be sent to either list, and when they are, they are rarely anything that you would care about, or would miss if you simply deleted. (I ususally just delete these things on LOISCLA -- I can count on one hand the number of times over the last nearly 3 years that I've bothered to work on converting the junk to a readable file.) Hope this helps, Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@webmart.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 18:21:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: DEBRA GRAY Subject: Re: a bonus flashback ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit owner-loiscla-general-l@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU wrote: > The Zoomway wrote > > > This is also a reminder that the main objective of being a FoLC is to have fun > > .. and worship L&C of course ;) > > > > Oh, *CLARK!* > > FINALLY! > > Around the World in (Just) a Cape > > This Is *No* Mishap > > Speechless in Metropolis > > That Better Not Be Kryptonite In Your Underwear... > > Thank God, Jimmy's Out of Town > > Christmas at Clark's > > A Major Power Surge > > This Better Be Reality > > You *are* a Bottomless Pit... > > How To Join The Mile-High Club Without A Plane > > The Real Steel Deal > > The Stone Boy > > Hit Me With Your Rythym Stick > > The Way You Just Touched Me! (Hello! Duh!) > > Sleepless in Metropolis > > The Perfect Mattress > > MoonShot > > Ode to Joy > > Together, Forever > > Tonight is the Night > > Squeeze Me, Squeeze Me > > Can't Get Enough > > The Night of Love > > Give It To Me > > Clark learns a lesson > > What is that?! > > Lois takes care of her friend... > > You should see him take out the garbage.. > > Oh Clark, stop being so modest! > > Clark's cheeks blush > > And how did it make you feel? > > Again?! > > Little tornado takes on Washington monument. > > No laughing matter.. > > Superman finds a secret cave > > Jimmy, take off my dress.. > > WCK (with Clark Kent) > > And you thought Kryptonite made CK groan.. > > Putting the paper to bed > > the marathon man > > tool time > > Beauty and the Beast with Two Backs > > The XXX-Files > > Educating Clark > > Clark: The Undiscovered Country > > It Happened All Night > > Lois Gets a Good Look at Clark's Snorkel > > Super Studd > > Not Always Faster Than A Speeding Bullet > > Free Willy > > We Waited Months for That?! > > How fast Can Superman Go? > > Hard as Steel > > Fly Me to the Moon > > Is That a Banana in Your Pocket, or . . . > > Virtue is Destroyed > > Lois Discovers She *Does* Like Bananas > > They're Real, and They're Spectacular > > Man of Steel > > Virtueless Reality > > Patience Rewarded > > Some Things Are Worth Waiting For" > > *Super*man > > Hallelujah > > Title already used but would have been better here . . . "Contact" > > The South Shall Rise Again > > This Is How It Works > > Can I Touch You... There? > > Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me (But don't drop me in mid-air) > > You're Makin' Me High > > Clark's Big Night > > Close Encounters of the Best/Erotic Kind > > Going Undercover > > Hallelujah! > > Guess Who's Sleeping In My Bed? (an editorial, by Lois Lane) > > The Great Moment > > It Couldn't Happen To A Nicer Guy > > In The Heat Of The Night > > The Lady Takes A Flyer > > The Superman Cometh > > A Night To Remember > > Oh, God! (I'm not sure if this is a title, or one the lines ) > > She Gets Her Man > > One Heavenly Night > > It Had To Happen > > It Happened One Night > > It Should Happen To You (I WISH!) > > All The Way Home (Finally!) > > Fun With Lois and Clark > > Boom! > > Can't Help Singing (30 years of celibacy is finally over ) > > The Day That Shook The World > > The Eagle Has Landed > > Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me > > All I Want For Christmas (is Christmas Lights that work ) > > Minute's up Clark! Come for Mama!!! > > Where No Clark Has Gone Before? > > Hard as a Rock (of Kryptonite ?) > > The Moan Heard Round the World > > Clark Loses His Patience > > Where no Krptonian Has Gone Before > > I Wanna Know What Love Is > > It's About !@#$ Time > > How Do You Spell Relief? > > Pardon Me, Miss, But I've Never Done This... > > Lois Gets An Exclusive > > Dancin in the Sheets > > Yes, Lois, the Outfit Actually Comes Off > > Red Boots Diary > > Fortress of Gratitude > > Who is Lois Lane, and Why Can't She Stop Smiling? > > The Night Has a Thousand Sighs > > Crossing the Threshold > > Live and Let Sigh > > A View to a Thrill > > Clark Kent Gets Lucky > > The Big Bang Theory > > They don't call him Superman for Nothing! Zoom - this was priceless!!!!!!!! I've saved it in my discussion archive as proof - And I don't save just ANY post to my archive, you know! Thanks for giving me some comedy to giggle over while I desperately hunt for a job. Debra dlgray@usa.net ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 19:44:59 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Regina Gilchrist Ash Subject: your fic :) (CiceroCat's "The Bullet") Comments: To: "lloydr@LDD.NET" Hi, Ok, I've been patient - a whole day's worth :) ...where's the rest of the fic? It is very well-written and I'm enjoying it. Please keep posting. Thanks for sharing, Regina -- Regina Ash (rash@dnet.net) ************************************************ "Science, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. Clarke *********************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 19:22:50 +0000 Reply-To: wbarbara@execpc.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Barbara Knutson Subject: Re: A bonus flashback ;) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Great Zoomie made her position on the recent discussions known..... > grammar, spelling and whether that little trail of hair from > Dean's navel that disappears into his waistband should have the > official acronym TTP (trail to paradise). -----oooh, I *like* this one......(Even though my husband doesn't have a single hair on his chest *or* stomach....:{....)(But luckily, I'm allowed to fantasize all I want.....:}....). > > I'm going to give you a flash from the past. Almost exactly two years ago the > following list of titles was posted to LOISCLA (the *other* list) It was a > compilation of titles fan came up with for what they felt would be good > honeymoon epidose titles. Keep in mind this was written in August before 4th > season aired and before we had any idea what the episode would be titled. > This is also a reminder that the main objective of being a FoLC is to have fun > .. and worship L&C of course ;) > And dive in the gutter, Zoom - you forgot that one!!!!!! {list of titles snipped} > Zoomway@aol.com (my what a smutty bunch we are ... er were ;) Z - some of us still *are*......We just don't have the weekly Saturday-night-and-we-want-tomorrow's-episode horniness and silliness to inspire us to deeper and deeper dives into the gutter..... However, this list of titles has been inspiring in and of itself..... Gotta figure out something to do with them........ Barbara feeling the gears starting to mesh......... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ wbarbara@execpc.com WAFFyBarb on IRC from the land of Cheese and Beer and my beloved Brand-new-wife of Jon Knutson - the most wonderful man alive And a believer that fairy tales *can* come true.... http://members.tripod.com/~WAFFyBarb/index.html +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 18:09:17 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) In-Reply-To: <199808111645_MC2-55D1-9022@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Pam wrote: >And I reiterate that Leanne wrote a soulmates-type story (First >Impressions) as well, which is neither a round-robin nor related to our >(very loose) continuity. > Gee, Pam, that's two plugs in one day! *grin* Thanks :) Leanne (who might even give the Round Robins a go herself) Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:26:41 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Maggie Subject: Soooo Happy to be on this List!!! :) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BDC56E.BAF90BC0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BDC56E.BAF90BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone :) I just want to take a moment to give *Super*Extra*Special*Thanks to all of you for participating in all the list discussions. I'm a newbie, and I have to say that Anyone, including us FoLCs can have a bad day every once in a while......However, I have never met a more gracious, welcoming, and good hearted group of people in my life. Since I've mostly had contact with FoLCs on the internet, I (silly me!) thought everyone in CyberSpace was just as lovely....Nope, you FoLCs really are Special. I am so glad to be a part of our FoLC community, it is truly a Super ;) place to be! And who, besides us FoLCs can have a serious, intelligent, (even entertaining at times) discussion on the nuances of proper grammar, usage and writing tips and tools AND also seriously, studiously and meticulously analyze the stylistic merits of traditional Kryptonian attire?!? (i.e. Did Clark look hunkier in the traditional Blue Suit or the more 90's Black version?) ;-) There a certain things only a FoLC can appreciate. You guys just make my day, all the time! The Bonus Flashback was just too funny [Thanks Zoom :)] And then as an added bonus, Pam Jernigan writing on another fascinating FoLC topic, RoundRobin stories, had the following on her sig: "That would be me. Superman's girlfriend, Clark Kent's wife, Kal-El's concubine. Former girlscout, present reporter, future mental patient. Time traveller, dimension hopper, soul migrator..." Lois reflects on her life, in _Always Something There to Remind Me_ by Zoomway Can I just tell you that is one of my All time favorite fanfic moments? And there it was waiting for me on my computer after a particularly stressful day! :)!! [Thank you Pam!] And to everyone even remotely related with the Archive {writers, editors, helpers....}, I love you! Thank you so much for the time and effort and contribution you make to the quality of my life everyday. Those of us who have the tremendous pleasure of enjoying the fruits of you labor are Blessed indeed. Maggie (deliriously happy to be a FoLC and yet, quite scared someone may find the "unique" grammar, and creative punctuation used in this note totally inappropriate for group of such learned individuals ;-)........... maggie13@bellsouth.net (aka supermag1 on IRC) Lois (rolls her head and smiles) "What am I going to do with you?" Clark (smugly) "You're going to love me for the rest of my life." Pam Jernigan, "Crazy For You" ------=_NextPart_000_01BDC56E.BAF90BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Everyone :)

I just = want to take a moment to give *Super*Extra*Special*Thanks to all of you = for participating in all the list discussions.  I'm a newbie, and I = have to say that Anyone, including us FoLCs can have a bad day every = once in a while......However, I have never met a more gracious, = welcoming, and good hearted group of people in my life.  Since I've = mostly had contact with FoLCs on the internet, I (silly me!) thought = everyone in CyberSpace was just as lovely....Nope, you FoLCs really are = Special. I am so glad to be a part of our FoLC community, it is truly a = Super ;) place to be!

And who, besides us FoLCs can have a = serious, intelligent, (even entertaining at times) discussion on the = nuances of proper grammar, usage and writing tips and tools AND also = seriously, studiously and meticulously analyze the stylistic merits of = traditional Kryptonian attire?!? (i.e. Did Clark look hunkier in the = traditional Blue Suit or the more 90's Black version?) ;-) =   

There a certain things only a FoLC can appreciate. =  You guys just make my day, all the time!  The Bonus Flashback = was just too funny [Thanks Zoom :)] And then as an added bonus, Pam = Jernigan writing on another fascinating FoLC topic, RoundRobin stories, = had the following on her sig:  

"That would be me. =  Superman's girlfriend, Clark Kent's wife,
Kal-El's concubine. =  Former girlscout, present reporter, future
mental patient. =  Time traveller, dimension hopper, soul migrator..."
Lois = reflects on her life, in _Always Something There to
Remind Me_ by = Zoomway

Can I just tell you that is one of my All time favorite = fanfic moments?  And there it was waiting for me on my computer = after a particularly stressful day! :)!! [Thank you Pam!]

And to = everyone even remotely related with the Archive {writers, editors, = helpers....}, I love you! Thank you so much for the time and effort and = contribution you make to the quality of my life everyday.  Those of = us who have the tremendous pleasure of enjoying the fruits of you labor = are Blessed indeed.



Maggie (deliriously happy to be a = FoLC and yet, quite scared someone may find the "unique" = grammar, and creative punctuation used in this note totally = inappropriate for group of such learned individuals ;-)........... =

maggie13@bellsouth.net  (aka supermag1 on IRC)
Lois (rolls her head = and smiles) "What am I going to do with you?"
Clark = (smugly) "You're going to love me for the rest of my = life."
Pam Jernigan, "Crazy For You" =  


------=_NextPart_000_01BDC56E.BAF90BC0-- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:37:26 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lansbury 1 Subject: Writer's Showcase---ANNOUNCEMENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Fanfic Readers, The Writer's Showcase website is now open. Please stop by each week to see who the new featured writer of the week is going to be. The URL is ...http://www.simplyorganized.simplenet.com/showcase.html I hope you enjoy learning more about the writers of the fanfic we all love to read over and over again. If you would like to suggest a writer please feel free to do so. AMCiotola is a lady I would like to give a HUGE *Thank You to. Without her this website would not have become a reality. You are fantastic, Anne. I feel God was spoiling me the day he let me meet you online. Zoomway and Demi, thank you, too for listening to me when the website 'just wouldn't do what I wanted' you both were a big help and yes, Demi, you where right about putting the 6 F's in place. That solved the problem. I was truly blessed to have so many people offering help and giving me encouragement, thank you all. I hope you enjoy it and visit each week. Annie Lansbury ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:52:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Writer's Showcase---ANNOUNCEMENT In-Reply-To: <9b635c88.35d0f1d7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:37 PM 8/11/1998 EDT, you wrote: >AMCiotola is a lady I would like to give a HUGE *Thank You to. Without her >this website would not have become a reality. You are fantastic, Anne. I >feel God was spoiling me the day he let me meet you online. Zoomway and Demi, >thank you, too for listening to me when the website 'just wouldn't do what I >wanted' you both were a big help and yes, Demi, you where right about putting >the 6 F's in place. That solved the problem. Annie, I'm so glad you finally got that working! :) Your webpage is really wonderful, and unique. I very much enjoyed reading all about your featured writer for this week, but I won't spoil the surprise by talking more about that ;) I have to agree, I'm a fan of this week's author myself. Best All** Demi _______________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- You gotta dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never gonna hurt. --- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. ________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:55:58 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Stosser Subject: Re: HELP! What was that about a change of address? In-Reply-To: <35CFA41E.148C64EF@geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Demi gave the new URL for the fanfic site: http://lcfanfic.actwd.com/ Does anyone know whether the mirror sites of http://www.win.net/~lcw/fanfic and/or http://www.cryogen.com/lcstories are still valid? And what about the Australian mirror site of ftp://ftp.hartingdale.com.au/pub/fanfic/ I have links to all these urls on my webpage and I would like to keep them up to date! Thanks. -- Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- My ICQ# is 11477318 Photos of David (6) and Megan (3) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 22:24:13 -0400 Reply-To: salymc@gateway.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Organization: GWNET Subject: Re: Lex as a Soulmate (was:LCFL) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam Jernigan wrote: >> Sandy, I've "pruned" a copy of The Lone Rider which I'm sending to > your gateway address (the author list was maintained, but I moved it to the > bottom of the file). I think you'll find that it's better than you'd > expected, and if you like, I encourage you to read the rest of them > (unpruned) at my webpage. If not, no one's wasted too much time.<< Pam: When I read your e-mail at work, I thought you were kidding. But, when I got home and *finally* got a chance to access my e-mail (more on that later), I couldn't believe that you actually did this! You're nuts! (And, I mean that in a very nice way, so who's ever out there reading this, please don't attack me.) Frankly, Pam, you should have told me to stick it where the sun don't shine. (I would have.) Anyway, I will make *absolutely*, *positively* sure to read this story. As a matter of fact, I will forward it to my work address since I don't have a printer here. > And I reiterate that Leanne wrote a soulmates-type story (First > Impressions) as well, which is neither a round-robin nor related to our > (very loose) continuity.<< I read Leanne's story. It wasn't a roundrobin. I know that she would argue with me, but I didn't quite see it as a soulmates story, either. I saw it more as a takeoff on Jane Austen, and I love Austen so naturally I was primed and ready to read her story. As a matter of fact, I liked Leanne's effort so much, I offered to comment more extensively on it. She took me up on it, and I think my comments will go up on her editing website. (By the way, Leanne, I won't hold you to that. I had fun doing it no matter.) Anyway, I wanted to get back to you sooner Pam, but I have had the worst "New Computer Owner Experience" (poster child-type) on record. I've had this computer for approx. a month. First, the CD drive goes bad. (It skips when you play music.) I call Gateway and they say that they're having "issues" with that model. (Uh ... is that computerese for "defective"?) So, they mail out another one -- same model -- and I schedule time for a service guy to come and put it in. (I paid for that contract, and *I want service*.) Well, before he's scheduled to come out, my floppy drive goes bad! I kid you not!!! So, I quickly cancel the appt. and try to reschedule it so the guy can come later and put in both items. So tonight's the big night. He installs the floppy and the CD and guess what? The CD drive -- same model, remember -- still skips when you play CD's! (Thank God we tried it out while he was still here.) Anyway, what a surprise! So, now, we have to order a third CD drive of a *different* model. Jeez! In the meantime, there was that article I was reading in the New York Times about the problems with the Outlook Express mail program (the one which came installed on my machine), Netscape Navigator (the one *I* downloaded), and now I hear Eudora (the one I've considered changing to) may have a problem re some patch they need to protect against a virus. It's been one interesting month, I'll tell you -- and it doesn't help that I'm high strung in the first place. I think I'll take a very big aspirin now. Sandy salymc@gateway.net http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 21:26:14 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: HELP! What was that about a change of address? In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980812115558.00703a3c@mail.ozramp.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:55 AM +1000 8/12/98, Jenny Stosser wrote: >Does anyone know whether the mirror sites of http://www.win.net/~lcw/fanfic is still operating as our mirror site. >and/or >http://www.cryogen.com/lcstories are still valid? All this link does is take you to the ixpres site (the one we just vacated). You get the same forward message as you do if you type the ixpres address directly. I don't see any reason you should need to keep this URL bookmarked. >And what about the Australian mirror site of >ftp://ftp.hartingdale.com.au/pub/fanfic/ I am not even able to access this URL, nor have those of us currently running the Archive been working with anyone running this site. Hope that helps. Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive <------- please note new address! kbrown@webmart.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 22:37:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: HELP! What was that about a change of address? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>http://www.cryogen.com/lcstories are still valid? Thanks for the reminder! I'd forgotten anyone might have that link. Kathy was right, it forwarded you to the old site, but as of 5 minutes ago, I changed the forward on it and it should now point directly to the NEW SITE :) So if you've got it bookmarked, it should be just fine and take you straight to the archive! You can use either address. But the direct approach is usually faster, since there's no forward to go through ;) Best All** Demi __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com __________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 20:22:57 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: So long, farewell, or, one bad apple ... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I will miss most of you, but I am signing off from this list. I have given this serious consideration over the past couple of days. I cannot stay on a list where vitriolic flames such as the one I received goes without at least some sort of acknowledgement of wrongdoing by the offender. There has been some verbal sparring here before, but *never* has there been such a vitriolic and personal attack at such a base and crude level as Beth's posts. Yes, even her so-called apology to the list was another attack, full of erroneous assumptions about what she *thought* I was thinking -- *not* what I wrote. I don't want to post an innocent suggestion and get shot down in flames again -- and I don't want to witness it happening to someone else. That's not the kind of list I want to belong to. So, au revoir. I'm also sending mail to Kathy asking her to remove my stories from the Archive. I don't want my work to be associated with someone so incredibly unprofessional as Beth Guide. My stories (and the edit page which needs to be updated) will remain up on my home page (see my sig below). For the interested, I'm kind of no mail on LOISCLA, I'll be hanging out on irc and I'll continue helping out with Season 6. I have one completed fanfic that's a spin off from Season 5 but, concerned that it may blow part of Season 6's opening storylines, it'll be on hold until the new year. I'll send a post to some friends here, mention it on irc and probably post the url to LOISCLA if it's up :) I have enjoyed our many discussions and even disagreements but I would rather write in a forum where discussion is open without fear of flames and unfortunately, this list can no longer provide that security. If I wished the kind of comments Beth delivered, I would have posted to usenet. The only way I'll be returning is if I receive an apology from Beth herself. Leanne (who maybe can catch up on that backlog of fic now) Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:45:59 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: So long, farewell, or, one bad apple ... Comments: To: volterra@SD.ZNET.COM In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:22 PM 8/11/1998 -0800, Leanne Shawler wrote: >I'm also sending mail to Kathy asking her to remove my stories from the >Archive. I don't want my work to be associated with someone so incredibly >unprofessional as Beth Guide. My stories (and the edit page which needs to >be updated) will remain up on my home page (see my sig below). On behalf of the fanfic archive, I'm sorry to hear that Leanne. Beth's post had nothing to do with the wishes of the fanfic archive, nor did she officially represent it's staff when she spoke. But I will remove your stories as of tonight, per your request. If you should wish them relisted, please let us know and I'll have them put back up. Demi __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com __________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 00:02:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Cristin J Whitley Subject: No, I am not flaming this time (was Re: So long, farewell, or one bad apple) Fellow FoLCs, Am I the only one who sees this as a horrible event? Losing a list member (especially one as active and helpful as Leanne) over an argument such as this is horrible. Can we not find a way to stop this? I found extreme enjoyment from both Leanne's posts and her fanfics. This is truly a FoLCy tragedy that this could happen on such a great list filled with such great FoLCs (now one less). That is all I have to say. Thank you. Cristin (who has locked up her blow torch but will NOT let this go unnoticed) >I will miss most of you, but I am signing off from this list. I have >given >this serious consideration over the past couple of days. I cannot stay >on a >list where vitriolic flames such as the one I received goes without at >least some sort of acknowledgement of wrongdoing by the offender. >There has >been some verbal sparring here before, but *never* has there been such >a >vitriolic and personal attack at such a base and crude level as Beth's >posts. Yes, even her so-called apology to the list was another attack, >full >of erroneous assumptions about what she *thought* I was thinking -- >*not* >what I wrote. > >I don't want to post an innocent suggestion and get shot down in >flames >again -- and I don't want to witness it happening to someone else. >That's >not the kind of list I want to belong to. So, au revoir. > >I'm also sending mail to Kathy asking her to remove my stories from >the >Archive. I don't want my work to be associated with someone so >incredibly >unprofessional as Beth Guide. My stories (and the edit page which >needs to >be updated) will remain up on my home page (see my sig below). > >For the interested, I'm kind of no mail on LOISCLA, I'll be hanging >out on >irc and I'll continue helping out with Season 6. I have one completed >fanfic that's a spin off from Season 5 but, concerned that it may blow >part >of Season 6's opening storylines, it'll be on hold until the new year. >I'll >send a post to some friends here, mention it on irc and probably post >the >url to LOISCLA if it's up :) > >I have enjoyed our many discussions and even disagreements but I would >rather write in a forum where discussion is open without fear of >flames and >unfortunately, this list can no longer provide that security. If I >wished >the kind of comments Beth delivered, I would have posted to usenet. >The >only way I'll be returning is if I receive an apology from Beth >herself. > >Leanne >(who maybe can catch up on that backlog of fic now) > >Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) >Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html >Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html >Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: >http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html > ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:36:52 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Archive contributions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've noticed at least a couple of posts in the last few days from people outside the U.S. wanting to know how to go about contributing to the archive. I think it's a great indicator of just how global this community is, that we should have this to deal with. As a possible solution (and please note, this is not something I've looked into, just typing off the top of my head), would an American bank not be able to take checks from other countries? I've made a few mail order purchases recently, some of which were from overseas, and checks that I sent for those purchases were accepted without a problem. They do take somewhat longer to clear than local or out-of-state checks. This might be something that A Creative Touch/Moreen Roman could check about -- how would her bank handle checks from outside the U.S. If they can take them, it might be an easier way for people in all parts of our "global village" to participate. Peace ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 23:59:51 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: Archive contributions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:36 PM 8/11/98 PDT, you wrote: >As a possible solution (and please note, this is not something >I've looked into, just typing off the top of my head), would an >American bank not be able to take checks from other countries? >I've made a few mail order purchases recently, some of which >were from overseas, and checks that I sent for those purchases >were accepted without a problem. They do take somewhat >longer to clear than local or out-of-state checks. I don't think it would be a problem with a bank in a large city. However, my little rural bank in Colorado (where the buffalo roam and deer and antelope play) charges $10 per check to collect the payment from a foreign bank. Even if it's a money order in American dollars, if it's drawn on a foreign bank, I pay the service charge. Which sort of makes a mockery of a $7 check for a tape :\ Anyway, having gone through this a few months ago (hi, Demi :), I did find out from my bank that most larger banks, especially in cities, don't have that problem. If your bank can change currency (American to foreign or back), then it can probably collect a check or money order drawn on a foreign bank without charging an exorbitant fee. Sheila sharper@cncc.cc.co.us ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 01:04:50 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Archive contributions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:36 PM 8/11/1998 PDT, you wrote: >This might be something that A Creative Touch/Moreen Roman >could check about -- how would her bank handle checks from >outside the U.S. If they can take them, it might be an easier >way for people in all parts of our "global village" to participate. I'm not sure how that would work either, but Peace's plan sounds like a great idea. I'm up in Canada as well, and my thought was to send Canadian cash, and let Moreen convert it over there. For example, if I sent $5 CDN, it would come out to .50 cents..er..I mean around $3.50 US (exchange rates today being what they are ;), and I wouldn't feel worried about putting a $5 bill in an envelope between two sheets of paper. With small sums, it's harder, I know because you end up paying more in fees for something like a money order than you wanted to contribute in the first place. I'd just send CDN cash (or whatever other currency you have) and let Mo and her bank worry about it She may kill me for that, but that's what I'd do. Demi ;) _______________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- You gotta dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never gonna hurt. --- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. ________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 01:33:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Tragedy Shmagedy. In-Reply-To: <19980812.000654.12246.4.CKandLL4ever@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:02 AM 8/12/1998 -0400, you wrote: >Fellow FoLCs, > Am I the only one who sees this as a horrible event? Losing a list >member (especially one as active and helpful as Leanne) over an argument >such as this is horrible. Can we not find a way to stop this? I found >extreme enjoyment from both Leanne's posts and her fanfics. This is truly >a FoLCy tragedy that this could happen on such a great list filled with >such great FoLCs (now one less). I think this is between Leanne and Beth. As has been pointed out, both ladies have issue with eachother, and in so much as many were disappointed with Beth's handling of that situation, I have to say that putting forth an ultimatum to an entire listserv seems little better in terms of taste. Other than it's use as a publicity/sympathy event. *sigh Beth will likely receive irate email from fans now who don't even know her, yet are reacting to Leanne's post and taking sides in something which has to do with a personal conflict. If that was Leanne's hope, in outlining everything she was going to 'pull out of in FOLCdom' if Beth didn't apologize, then I don't see it's place on this list either. :( Leanne threatened an entire listserv with her departure...publicly, because she was upset that Beth flamed her...publicly. So now I think *both* ladies are even. And since I think most of us recognized Leanne's withdrawal from FoLCdom Fanfic as more of a media event than a real occurrence, I think we should all move on. Leanne, you made your point. We all know how upset you were, rightfully so, and that you now want to get back at Beth. If all you wanted was an apology, you wouldn't have turned this into a sympathy circus. I humbly request at this point that the two of you take it to private email, and stop using the other FoLCs here to fight eachother on your behalf, especially over something as silly as someone leaving. You know you love fanfic and FoLCdom, Leanne, and I'd bet my last dime we haven't seen the last of you around these halls, no matter what happens with this silly flame-war. So, I may not be the listmom here, but I'm no stranger to the position in other forums, and I know a tantrum when I see one. First from Beth and now from Leanne. The only difference is, Beth attacked Leanne all on her own, and Leanne has since asked an entire listserv to attack Beth for her. Leanne, as I already said regarding the archive, I'm sorry to see your stories pulled. But I removed them tonight as per your request. You're a valuable and respected author, and I know at some point in the near future we'll see you back on this list, and talking your medium. Until then.. Best Regards, Demi _______________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- You gotta dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never gonna hurt. --- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. ________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 01:56:40 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Archive contributions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Peace brought a very good point to my attention. I'd forgot how much banks charge for currency converstion as well as other forms of money orders, etc. I have a great plan with my own bank -- it all comes out of a monthly flat rate. So I'd forgotten Peace also suggested something which might work miraculously anyway. She suggested the idea of collecting all Canadian donations at one address out here and then having one FoLC send them on to Moreen. The 'cost' of buying a Money Order (US) would come out of whatever was donated as well, but it would amalgumate the problem. Peace also asked if I might be able to do something like that, and in principal I think it's a great idea, however I would have to decline that invitation. I won't give out my home address to large groups ever again ...because I had some trouble in the past with a stalker and I'm very wary about things like that now, especially that he'll be back . Perhaps we could find another Canadian FOLC out here who's willing and less threatened? If there are other countries who want to do the same, it's probably a good idea for FoLCs to speak up, so that interested FoLCs can know who to write to about this in each area. :) Again, this isn't a huge deal guys, if it becomes difficult for you to buy a money order or convert cash, my advice would be to not worry about it The archive isn't going to fall offline, and no one will be offended if folks cannot get around the surcharge of sending currency between countries. That is perfectly understandable. Thanks Guys, Demi (The gal with the most posts in one night, I think!) _______________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- You gotta dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never gonna hurt. --- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. ________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 02:25:04 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lansbury 1 Subject: IRC Tutorial Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello, This Saturday on channel #Teacher&Students starting at 1:00p.m EST in the US. I will be having another IRC tutorial. This is to be a refresher session for those who attend the first session. But, it is also, open to anyone who might want to attend. I have had several requests from those with little or no experience and all are welcome. If you would like to attend, please, let me know or if you need help getting connected I will be glad to help. Annie Lansbury Lansbury1@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 01:02:41 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sara Kraft Subject: Looking for a fanfic... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jamee Jones asked: <<>> I know there is one out there. I've read it. I just can't seem to remember who wrote it or what it was called. It was one I read a while back, at least a year ago, in which Lois finds herself in trouble (suprise, surprise). But in this story, I recall an old aquainttance of either Lois or Clark who has telepathic abilities. Lois learns from this woman and is able to communicate with Clark on another level. My mind wants to remember it as "Queen of Diamonds," but in the archive, that is a completely different story. Anybody out there know what I'm talking about? Sara --------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:11:43 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Annette Ciotola Subject: Re: Writer's Showcase---ANNOUNCEMENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-11 21:39:57 EDT, you write: << AMCiotola is a lady I would like to give a HUGE *Thank You to. Without her this website would not have become a reality. You are fantastic, Anne. I feel God was spoiling me the day he let me meet you online. Zoomway and Demi, thank you, too for listening to me when the website 'just wouldn't do what I wanted' you both were a big help and yes, Demi, you where right about putting the 6 F's in place. That solved the problem. >> It's was more than my pleasure. This was a fabulous idea from the get go and I am gald that I was able to help out. He must have been looking out for me, too. :) Anne :) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:31:03 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pellis Subject: Re: I AM the list mom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you are the list "Mom", I would like to be removed from the list please. Just to much mail backing up. Paul ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 07:54:17 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Archive contributions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-12 02:07:16 EDT, demona@SHAW.WAVE.CA writes: << Peace also suggested something which might work miraculously anyway. She suggested the idea of collecting all Canadian donations at one address out here and then having one FoLC send them on to Moreen. The 'cost' of buying a Money Order (US) would come out of whatever was donated as well, but it would amalgumate the problem. >> Demi, this would help enormously with the fees. I think most banks, even in more populated areas would charge heavy fees as it's only a few like in NYC who will change the currency anyway. So the smaller banks go through those and pass the fees along. You can wire the money, you know (but would need the bank's routing number), but there are fees on this end for that too. I deal with an international organization based in a small town who has this problem all the time. I was down there last week and the bank teller was explaining to me a problem with a check in U.S. funds drawn on a Canadian bank! (And, no, I don't live in that area, but even here in the suburbs of NYC, the banks wouldn't know what to do with currency from outside the U.S.) --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:40:06 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Angee Chaudhry Subject: Re: So long, farewell, or, one bad apple ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Hi Leanne, Or should I say bye ... I'm sorry to see you go, even though I didn't know you personally. Just wanted to say that as a FoLC who dearly loves the show and has made some of the kindest friends on this list, I am upset that you feel you have to leave as this is the best list I have ever been on. Take care and hope to see you somewhere on the Internet :-) Best wishes, Angee Chaudhry ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:40:40 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: April Story Subject: Re: Tragedy Shmagedy. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Great Post Demi**** Now can we *please* get back to talking about Lois and Clark, Dean and Teri, or even Mindy and Jon at this point LOL!!!! Thanks! April (who came out of lurkdom cause I dont want to see this thread anymore under any subject line....) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 11:33:25 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Are you a mingler or a clinger? MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Are you a mingler or a clinger? Lois asked that of Clark in IASWAA. Well I want to ask it of you about your websites, are you a member of a webring or other web grouping? And if so, why? If you are a loner, I would also like to hear your thoughts. I'm not sure if this is really off-topic so reply to me privately if you prefer. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | My personal FoLC/MATH website | | "What's done to children, they will do to society." - Karl Menninger | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:42:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: How to unsubscribe (was Re: I AM the list mom) Comments: cc: Pellis In-Reply-To: <001501bdc5e4$b1782ba0$36422499@0FML2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:31 AM -0400 8/12/98, Pellis wrote: >If you are the list "Mom", I would like to be removed from the list please. >Just to much mail backing up. /me reminds everyone that each of us received a file when we joined this listserv that explained how to sign off. The second line of this messages says "Please save this message for future reference." Why does it seem like no one listens, then gets annoyed when they can't figure out how to sign off? To quote that message: "You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF LOISCLA-GENERAL-L" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU." I hope that helps. For future reference, below is the message in its entirety. Kathy (not the list mom, but kind of a list aunt.) _________________________ You have been added to the LOISCLA-GENERAL-L mailing list (Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic) by Farah Meitzen Chisham . Please save this message for future reference, especially if this is the first time you subscribe to an electronic mailing list. If you ever need to leave the list, you will find the necessary instructions below. Perhaps more importantly, saving a copy of this message (and of all future subscription notices from other mailing lists) in a special mail folder will give you instant access to the list of mailing lists that you are subscribed to. This may prove very useful the next time you go on vacation and need to leave the lists temporarily so as not to fill up your mailbox while you are away! You should also save the "welcome messages" from the list owners that you will occasionally receive after subscribing to a new list. To send a message to all the people currently subscribed to the list, just send mail to LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU. This is called "sending mail to the list", because you send mail to a single address and LISTSERV makes copies for all the people who have subscribed. This address (LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU) is also called the "list address". You must never try to send any command to that address, as it would be distributed to all the people who have subscribed. All commands must be sent to the "LISTSERV address", LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU. It is very important to understand the difference between the two, but fortunately it is not complicated. The LISTSERV address is like a FAX number that connects you to a machine, whereas the list address is like a normal voice line connecting you to a person. If you make a mistake and dial the FAX number when you wanted to talk to someone on the phone, you will quickly realize that you used the wrong number and call again. No harm will have been done. If on the other hand you accidentally make your FAX call someone's voice line, the person receiving the call will be inconvenienced, especially if your FAX then re-dials every 5 minutes. The fact that most people will eventually connect the FAX machine to the voice line to allow the FAX to go through and make the calls stop does not mean that you should continue to send FAXes to the voice number. People would just get mad at you. It works pretty much the same way with mailing lists, with the difference that you are calling hundreds or thousands of people at the same time, and consequently you can expect a lot of people to get upset if you consistently send commands to the list address. You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF LOISCLA-GENERAL-L" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU. You can also tell LISTSERV how you want it to confirm the receipt of messages you send to the list. If you do not trust the system, send a "SET LOISCLA-GENERAL-L REPRO" command and LISTSERV will send you a copy of your own messages, so that you can see that the message was distributed and did not get damaged on the way. After a while you may find that this is getting annoying, especially if your mail program does not tell you that the message is from you when it informs you that new mail has arrived from LOISCLA-GENERAL-L. If you send a "SET LOISCLA-GENERAL-L ACK NOREPRO" command, LISTSERV will mail you a short acknowledgement instead, which will look different in your mailbox directory. With most mail programs you will know immediately that this is an acknowledgement you can read later. Finally, you can turn off acknowledgements completely with "SET LOISCLA-GENERAL-L NOACK NOREPRO". Following instructions from the list owner, your subscription options have been set to "REPRO" rather than the usual LISTSERV defaults. For more information about subscription options, send a "QUERY LOISCLA-GENERAL-L" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU. Contributions sent to this list are automatically archived. You can get a list of the available archive files by sending an "INDEX LOISCLA-GENERAL-L" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU. You can then order these files with a "GET LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOGxxxx" command, or using LISTSERV's database search facilities. Send an "INFO DATABASE" command for more information on the latter. This list is available in digest form. If you wish to receive the digested version of the postings, just issue a SET LOISCLA-GENERAL-L DIGEST command. More information on LISTSERV commands can be found in the LISTSERV reference card, which you can retrieve by sending an "INFO REFCARD" command to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU. _______________________ ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@webmart.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:36:46 -0500 Reply-To: alyssam@earthlink.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alyssa Mondelli Organization: Deceive, Inveigle, & Obfuscate, Attorneys-at-Law Subject: Re: Are you a mingler or a clinger? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gary wrote: > Are you a mingler or a clinger? Lois asked that of Clark in IASWAA. > > Well I want to ask it of you about your websites, are you > a member of a webring or other web grouping? And if so, why? My website is a schizoid personality. The Season 5 part likes to play with others and receive occasional promotion, so it is on several webrings plus the Centre for the Easily Amused. The Fortress of Insanity part realizes that it is just another personal home page with no redeeming social qualities [JAPHPWNRSQ(tm)] and so it tends to keep to itself. And the bookstore is a shy wallflower which dreams of dressing up and going out on the town, as soon as the lazy webmistress finishes renovating and uploads all the new stuff. Really, I'm not sure webrings have any real purpose other than satisfying one's need to belong (not necessarily a bad thing). I haven't noticed the S5 page getting increased traffic from them, but hey, they can't hurt. ==Alyssa in St. Paul== (alyssam@earthlink.net)(AlyssaM on the IRC) Webmistress, Tempus Expeditions - http://tempus.simplenet.com/ Home of the Fortress of Insanity and Lois & Clark Season 5 "I was merely extending her a professional courtesy." "Oh, is *that* what you were extending?" (M&S, _X-Files_ "Fire") ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:48:53 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Ali Tavakoly Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe (was Re: I AM the list mom) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > /me reminds everyone that each of us received a file when we joined this > listserv that explained how to sign off. The second line of this messages > says "Please save this message for future reference." Why does it seem > like no one listens, then gets annoyed when they can't figure out how to > sign off? > Thnsk for the info:) I had 2 emails subbed to this ml and I was gettignt he messages twice:( anyways the /me command only works in irc:) peace, ali ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 08:55:16 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "K.C. Boyd" Subject: Re: Looking for a fanfic... Content-Type: text/plain >Jamee Jones asked: > ><<to use some of his mental telepathy powers that all the Kryptonians had? >If there is let me know, I would like to read about that. I think it >would be great if he and Lois could have that sort of a connection!>>> > >I know there is one out there. I've read it. I just can't seem to remember >who wrote it or what it was called. It was one I read a while back, at >least a year ago, in which Lois finds herself in trouble (suprise, >surprise). But in this story, I recall an old aquainttance of either Lois >or Clark who has telepathic abilities. Lois learns from this woman and is >able to communicate with Clark on another level. My mind wants to remember >it as "Queen of Diamonds," but in the archive, that is a completely >different story. Anybody out there know what I'm talking about? > >Sara I think the story you are talking about is called barnstorm, but in that story Lois is the one who gets the ability. K.C. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:30:33 -0400 Reply-To: x-lander@geocities.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Mark Safransky Subject: Mirror Sites (Was Re: HELP!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jenny Stosser wrote: > Does anyone know whether the mirror sites of http://www.win.net/~lcw/fanfic > and/or http://www.cryogen.com/lcstories are still valid? > These two sites are still good and link to the new archive site. > And what about the Australian mirror site of > ftp://ftp.hartingdale.com.au/pub/fanfic/ > I keep getting a no pub/fanfic directory on this server message when trying to connect to this one. -- Mark Safransky x-lander@geocities.com http://safransky.simplenet.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 12:55:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Donna Lehman <102262.2435@COMPUSERVE.COM> Subject: Re: Tragedy Shmagedy. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi All, I am mostly a "lurker" . I don't write but I do enjoy very much what everyone else writes and so I don't feel I have much to offer in posting except when I enjoy something...but , I too will be glad to put to rest these recent postings..they were beginning to annoy me and I didn't want = to read them. I am a true FoLC and love to read about Dean, Teri, Jon, Mindy= , K, Lane, Justin, etc. it keeps my love for LNC alive. Donna ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:02:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: DEBRA GRAY Subject: Re: Archive contributions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm responding to the idea of someone from each country collecting the donations and forwarding them, that Demi and Peace came up with. I perfectly understand Demi's reluctance to give out her snail-mail addy on the net - I am, too - but had another idea that I thought I'd throw out to you. Why couldn't whoever is doing the collecting get a PO box where we could send the donations to? I had a PO box several years ago at college, and it was great, because it didn't give away exactly where I lived. And actually I had my box in a totally different town from where I was, so the anonimity was even better! (It was a rural area, but if you live in a larger city, it might also work.) I'd volunteer to do it for the Canadian crowd if I knew how long I'd be in this city, but since I tend to move frequently, it might not be a good idea. Anyway, I hope this idea helps. Debra - who is really enjoying the group and is sorry Leanne decided to quit. :( dlgray@usa.net > Peace also suggested something which might work miraculously anyway. She suggested the idea of collecting all Canadian donations at one address out here and then having one FoLC send them on to Moreen. The 'cost' of buying a Money Order (US) would come out of whatever was donated as well, but it would amalgumate the problem. > > Peace also asked if I might be able to do something like that, and in principal I think it's a great idea, however I would have to decline that invitation. I won't give out my home address to large groups ever again ...because I had some trouble in the past with a stalker and I'm very wary about things like that now, especially that he'll be back . > > Perhaps we could find another Canadian FOLC out here who's willing and less threatened? If there are other countries who want to do the same, it's probably a good idea for FoLCs to speak up, so that interested FoLCs can know who to write to about this in each area. :) > > Again, this isn't a huge deal guys, if it becomes difficult for you to buy a money order or convert cash, my advice would be to not worry about it > The archive isn't going to fall offline, and no one will be offended if folks cannot get around the surcharge of sending currency between countries. That is perfectly understandable. > > Thanks Guys, > Demi (The gal with the most posts in one night, I think!) > > > _______________________________________________________ > > Demi (a.k.a) Demona > or > http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm > --- > L&C Site > http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy > --- > You gotta dance like nobody's watching, and love > like it's never gonna hurt. > --- > I can please only one person per day. Today is > not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. > ________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 14:25:46 -0400 Reply-To: demona@shaw.wave.ca Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Regarding "Taken" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In the spirit of getting back into FIC discussion, I thought I'd post about something I never got around to before. A few months ago I gave in to curiosity and read the novella, "Taken", by Sandra McDermin. Once I began reading, I was pleasantly surprised. I found the idea and the premise of the story fascinating, and very romantic. But when I was done reading, I had a question in the forefront of my mind. It was unfortunate that shortly thereafter, "life" promptly interfered and stole away almost every spare moment I had, and so I never got around to asking it. For those of you who have yet to read "Taken", this will involve a bit of a spoiler so read no farther if you don't want that. (The story may even have been Nfic, but at this point I don't recall precisely how far it went in that respect, my own comments have nothing to do with that aspect of the story anyway, so not to worry ;) s p a c e I thought that Sandy had woven together some very compelling ideas. For those unaware she had an alternate "elsewhere" theme, where a Kal-El having grown up entirely *on* Krypton, with his birth-parents featured prominently, and where Lois Lane was kidnapped from her horrible marriage to (ulp.. Lex) on Earth and whisked away to romance and a little adventure, with a woefully (betrothed) Kryptonian high lord's son..on another planet no less! ;) It was truly an incredible idea, and I was enchanted..... until I reached the ending (!!) At which point I felt about as frustrated as fans of Dallas when a previously dead Bobby Ewing woke up in the shower one afternoon! ;) Sandy, the potentially epic caliber of what you had built up until that point was inspiring, and yet you dropped it for a dream sequence so suddenly, that as a reader, I felt abandoned. So I wonder if you might share with us what your thoughts were regarding the last few scenes of Taken? And why you decided against the wonderful story arc you'd build up so well until then, in favor of a reality check? I was so happy in la-la land with Kal-El and Lois ... I was about to write you and offer money if you'd take your story "all the way", and I don't mean just in the carnal sense. ;) Your comments? Best All** Demi demona@shaw.wave.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 13:16:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "B.B. Medos" Subject: Re: Looking for a fanfic... In-Reply-To: <199808120802.BAA20985@cepheus.azstarnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:02 AM 8/12/98 -0700, Sara Kraft wrote: >I know there is one out there. I've read it. I just can't seem to remember >who wrote it or what it was called. It was one I read a while back, at >least a year ago, in which Lois finds herself in trouble (suprise, >surprise). But in this story, I recall an old aquainttance of either Lois >or Clark who has telepathic abilities. Lois learns from this woman and is >able to communicate with Clark on another level. My mind wants to remember >it as "Queen of Diamonds," but in the archive, that is a completely >different story. Anybody out there know what I'm talking about? For a second there, I thought of Sanctuary, but it didn't have a friend that they learn from. Wasn't there a fanfic about an old friend of Clark's who had telepathic abilities? She'd learned his secret by reading his mind at some point. He and Lois help her and her husband and children out, I think. Her children had some kind of ability, too, but I can't remember the details. Beverly :-) ****************************************************************** B.B. Medos bbmedos@geocities.com ****************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 17:21:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Contributing to the Archive :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" See? This is why it's so amazing when people put their heads together! :) DEBRA G wrote: <> That is a GREAT idea for the Canadian FoLCs. I didn't even consider it, LOL. ;P But I plan on looking into that and potentially renting a PO Box, should the need be there. :) So if you're Canadian, and you want to do things that way, please write to me privately and I'll let you know as soon as *I* know more. :) I also received a generous offer from someone else regarding the EURO FOLCS :) Cindy Batey has stepped forward and offered: <...if you know of anyone living outside the US who wants to contribute to the upkeep costs but is finding the $$ conversion too expensive, please have them email me and I will be happy to help send a US check to *whomever* for them. I still maintain a couple of checking accounts back in the states, and, plan to send some money for the EuroFolcs that are still using the archive.>> So if you're a EURO FOLC, Cindy has just become the wonderful gal to contact :) Her email address is: Cindy Batey midnite@interquest.de Thanks So Much FoLCs :) Demi __________________________________________ Demi / Demona Archive Coordinator Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive http://lcfanfic.actwd.com __________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 08:10:17 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Stosser Subject: Re: Contributing to the Archive for O/S FoLCs In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980812172105.00824a30@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just a suggestion for the contributees (ie the ppl who RECEIVE the money for the archive): from experience when I bought the L&C showbags (last year? the year before?) for merchandise deprived FoLCs - in Australia, at least, it is cheaper and quicker to convert foreign cash at a travel agent to local cash than it is to bank a foreign cheque and wait for it to clear. I asked that ppl for whom I had bought showbags send me cash (I know, you aren't supposed to send cash in the mail, but it worked for me and none of it got lost) which I then converted to Australian dollars at the local Thomas Cook branch. It was quick, it was cheaper (only a $4 conversion cost, instead of $10 at some banks) and I was able to wait until I had a whole lot of cash to convert instead of converting each cheque individually. You migh like to consider this option. -- Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- My ICQ# is 11477318 Photos of David (6) and Megan (3) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 18:56:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: Regarding "Taken" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:25 PM 8/12/98 -0400, you wrote: > >s >p >a >c >e > >Sandy, the potentially epic caliber of what you had built up until that point >was inspiring, and yet you dropped it for a dream sequence so suddenly, that as >a reader, I felt abandoned. > Demi, don't you dream? I don't think the story being a dream weakens the story in anyway. There has been many a dream that was so real it took some time to sort out what really happened and what did not. Gary dreamer, rainbow-chaser, star-gazer =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | My personal FoLC/MATH website | | "What's done to children, they will do to society." - Karl Menninger | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:25:22 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: Off Topic: Vote for L&C ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Okay, since LOISCLA is down, I thought I give you this website: http://www.ultimatetv.com/interact/top100/ They're taking a poll of the most popular shows but weren't kind enough to include Lois and Clark as a pre-selected choice, so if you want to vote, scroll down the list of show's that were given an 'official' slot and write in Lois and Clark The New Adventures of Superman. It may not get a lot of votes, but it may get enough votes so that next time it will be respected enough to at least be given a slot!! Zoomway@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 19:05:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: How to unsubscribe (was Re: I AM the list mom) In-Reply-To: <35D1B964.425F67AE@jps.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 8:48 AM -0700 8/12/98, Ali Tavakoly wrote: >Thnsk for the info:) I had 2 emails subbed to this ml and I was gettignt he >messages twice:( You're welcome. >anyways the /me command only works in irc:) >peace, >ali ROTFLMAO!!!!! Er, I know ... I was using it to be funny. Not that it is, I guess ... oh well. At least I got a laugh. I'm what you call a regular on IRC ... oh, like 4 hours a night, several nights a week ... for the last 3 years. I don't even want to do the math to know how many hours I've wasted -- enjoyed, I mean enjoyed -- on IRC since joining FoLCdom. Kathy (who doesn't know why this innocent helpful comment struck me as so funny, but I'm still laughing. ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@webmart.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:22:37 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lori McElhaney Subject: Re: Off Topic: Vote for L&C ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thanks for pointing this out, but boy was it tough choosing my top ten - besides L&C, I mean! This is probably off topic for this list, but I was curious, since when I had discussed tv viewing with some of my other FOLC friends, I found we had similar tastes - what did y'all pick for your top ten? Lori PS - oops, I guess I could list mine Babylon 5 Columbo Get Smart I Love Lucy I Spy Mission Impossible Quantum Leap Star Trek Star Trek: The Next Generation Lois and Clark - The New Adventures of Superman- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:22:38 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Priscilla C Subject: tan: Lois and Clark posters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit hi :) well, this isn't *completely* off-topic :::self conscious about the way she types:::, okay i just to warn you, i can't spell if my life depended on it, so this e-mail will be filled with typos. sorry. but oh yes, back to my post ;) at my local comic/swap meet store, i found for the first time some lois and clark posters, i've never seen them on sale anywhere else so i was estatic, the guy actually had a couple of them, not just one; i thought this was a rare thing to find? No? Nevertheless i didn't buy it because of the price, $25 for one. (which, in my opinion, is a bit much? or is it? for those folcs who have bought one, is $25 a rip-off or a bargain? should i get it or keep searching for a better deal?) But since i wasn't planning on buying it , i thought i could offer to get it for any folcs out there who would be willing to pay $25 for it, there were 2 designs. One has lois and clark from the steam shot series, with the abc logo backdrop, and the other is i guess from the first season, with the white tank top, and the superman tatoo on the shoulder saying "have you been to metropolis lately?" both very nice ones! :) and i guess, i would call them standard movie size posters? (they didn't exactly have the dimensions of the posters labeled when it was on display in the case). But yeah, i'd call it movie size :) I'll probably go back this saturday for my usual comic supplies, so i thought i'd mention it if anybody is interested, please e-mail me privately and we'll arrange something. priscilla skeela@aol.com (hopefully you all could still understand my post typos and grammatical errors and all! ;) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 22:49:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Regarding "Taken" In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19980812185605.54df856c@vmspop.isc.rit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:56 PM 8/12/1998 -0400, you wrote: >At 02:25 PM 8/12/98 -0400, you wrote: >> >>s >>p >>a >>c >>e > >Demi, don't you dream? I don't think the story being a dream weakens the >story in anyway. There has been many a dream that was so real it took >some time to sort out what really happened and what did not. >Gary Oh yes, of course I dream, Gary but if I had awoken from *that* particular dream right where the story ended, I would have been just as frustrated and wanted to know what happened next! The potential of that story was amazing. I hope Sandy looks into exploring "the dream" a little farther some day ;) Demi "Why are there so many ..song about Rainbows?" _______________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- You gotta dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never gonna hurt. --- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. ________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 00:55:19 -0400 Reply-To: salymc@gateway.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandy McDermin Organization: GWNET Subject: Regarding "Taken" (LONG Answer) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, went to a Washington Mystics game tonight. They are DC's entry in the Women's Professional Basketball League. Our team's the worst in the league ; ), *but* they've had the greatest audience attendance record. Go figure ... literally: I was sitting at the club level where seats for an NBA game go for around $75.00. What did we pay tonight? $8.00! Great deal for families, so I'm not surprise the games attract a good crowd. What makes it even better is the whole thing is held in a new arena in *downtown* D.C. (not in the burbs). For you X-Files fans, it's just around the corner and up the block from the FBI building. The only thing that would make it more enjoyable for me? Chippendale Cheerleaders. > (The story may even have been Nfic, but at this point I don't recall precisely > how far it went in that respect, my own comments have nothing to do with that > aspect of the story anyway, so not to worry ;)< Onto "Taken". Yes, it's definitely nfic, but it's good to know you can't remember, because that means the "n" part was not overwhelming or out of place. > Sandy, the potentially epic caliber of what you had built up until that point > was inspiring, and yet you dropped it for a dream sequence so suddenly, that as > a reader, I felt abandoned. So I wonder if you might share with us what your > thoughts were regarding the last few scenes of Taken? And why you decided > against the wonderful story arc you'd build up so well until then, in favor of > a reality check?< Well. Hmmm. (Hope you're sitting down and have a glass of wine handy.) For a long time, I wanted to write a mirror version of the Lois and Clark story where Lois was the strange visitor from another planet and "Clark" was the native at home in his own society. Although I wasn't sure how different Lois would be, what really fascinated me was how different Clark would be. He would be, I assumed, more comfortable in his own skin, he would be privileged, he might even be less thoughtful and considerate by virtue of not having had to walk in the shoes of someone who was alienated from society on account of his background. After writing two consecutive stories about Lois and Clark, I must admit to being bored. I thought it would be a nice change of pace to write about Lois and Kal-El or Lois and Lex. However, I couldn't decide which to do so I joined the ideas together. Not only that, I wasn't *really* ready to give up the Lois and Clark I had created in my other two stories. In light of all of this, what kind of story could I write which could conceivably include all of these elements? Not only that, how could I do this under the following strict conditions that I set up for myself: 1.) It had to be a *logical* follow-up to the other two stories I had written (reflecting my statement above). In other words, part of a trilogy. (Well, you might ask, how does "Taken" tie in with the other stories other than by virtue of the very end? In the following way --> All during "Taken", four things come into play: a.) Lois is physically prodded and poked by the Zelots, by her Kryptonian doctor, Jor-El, and, even mentally, by the psychiatrist (as a pregnant woman is poked and prodded by doctors and nurses in real life). b.) Lois is constantly faced with the issue of child bearing both on Earth and on Krypton. c.) Lois is pressured to have a child by Lex. d.) Lois still worries about giving birth to children who are unique and need special care. At the end of "Love as a Blonde," Lois ends up pregnant. It is not something she plans, Clark wants the pregnancy more than she does, and she has been "freaked out" by events which occurred in "Something's Missing" regarding her son Jonny and is reluctant to add another child into the mix. A logical tie-in to "Taken", therefore, would be that -- in the midst of the last stages of her pregnancy (from LaaB) -- her dreamstate goes into overdrive. She dreams of being prodded and poked. She dreams about the issue of child bearing. She dreams about being pressured to have a child *but not by Clark* who Lois could never see as pressuring her in this way but by someone who *she could* see pressuring her -- Lex. She dreams about facing the fact that the child she conceived may not only be an outcast, but, ironically may also be wanted very much by the wrong people for the wrong reasons. All these fears that are a part of her *real* life in LaaB, form to create the dream she has in "Taken" and therefore it is the hook to the other stories. 2) "Taken" had to respect the Lois and Clark universe as we knew it on the show. a.) Lex Luthor was either in dead or in jail. (One can never know with Lex.) In other words, he doesn't really "exist" anymore except in memory. b.) Krypton was destroyed over 30 years ago, Earth time. It only exists in memory. 3. Finally, I wanted "Taken" to make the following important point (and this was the heart of the story): In any marriage, but in Lois and Clark's especially, there are obligations one has to "the world" -- to family, friends, community -- which can infringe upon a couple, demanding time from each other. (Under less pleasant circumstances, i.e., marriages not as wonderful as L&C's, there are similar obligations which force a couple to remain together, demanding that they spend time with each other when they should just end it.) On the opposite side of the coin, a couple needs to put its foot down and demand time (from "society") for themselves in order to maintain a healthy relationship. In her dream, Lois' relationship to Lex (on her part) is all obligation and no selfishness. In other words, she maintains the marriage because 1) she feels responsible for some of what he's done and wants to take him down and 2) she feels an obligation to live up to her wedding vows. Conversely, Lois' relationship with Kal-El could be viewed as very selfish. They seek each other out in spite of his obligations to his planet and her obligations to her marriage. Despite the guilt society places on them and they place on themselves, they give in to their need for each other. At the end of "Taken", I try to comment upon these two opposing forces by pointing out that extremes are unhealthy, and that the best relationships are based upon a commitment to love each other as well as a recognition of one's responsibility to the world at large. In other words, you cannot deny a love that is true and good just because the resulting relationship may not be easy or people might disapprove of it. Alternatively, you cannot ignore obligations and responsiblities to society nor can one totally ignore "societal opinion". Lois and Clark are together because they love each other despite the fact that they are not from the same planet and could face disappoval and difficulties if anyone knew; however, because of the very fact of Clark's uniqueness, special obligations fall on their shoulders which they also must face together and cannot set aside or run away from. In other words, their relationship is a great balancing act -- one, hopefully, not over*taken* by a selfish love (e.g., run away to a desert island, denying Superman and rejecting the world) nor foolish obligation (choose not to be together at all because he is Superman). **** Anyway, given all these parameters and goals I set up, I realized this was quite a complicated project. So, I wrote a detailed outline and stuck to it like glue. I now wonder, however, if I was wrong to do so. Many people who wrote to me about "Taken", spoke of the same disappointment that you did, and *I* even recognized, while I was writing it, that it could be viewed as a cop-out. Perhaps, I should have thrown out the end of my outline -- my "statement" and parameters -- and allowed the story to continue on some "natural" course. Frankly, I gave some thought to doing just that, and I sketched out an alternate ending for Lois, Kal-El, and Lex but didn't write it. Oddly enough, many who sent me comments, also gave me suggestions for endings. But, none of the suggestions reflected what I would have done. Therefore, no matter what I did, I probably would have disappointed. > I was so happy in la-la land with Kal-El and Lois ... I was about to write > you and offer money if you'd take your story "all the way", and I don't mean > just in the carnal sense. ;)<< I'd take it. While you and the others are collecting money to sustain the archive, I'll start a fund to get me to write an alternate ending to "Taken". I have a funny feeling I won't have to worry about converting mountains of cash. > Your comments?< Well, those are my very detailed comments which are, no doubt, more than you bargained for. Right now I am in the midst of writing another story which I hope won't disappoint. As I explained to Debby, it's felliniesque -- whatever that means (other than that I'm really pretentious). I'm also about 30 pages into it. As I mentioned before on the list, it's called "Little Man, Super". I don't know if you feel this way when you write a story, but when I'm writing I feel a story's tone, its flavor. I immerse myself into its personality. LM,S has the feel of color, of quirkiness, a slight circus atmosphere. "Taken" made me feel very depressed. If I were to do anything with "Taken," I would have to either abandon what I am currently doing and "re-immerse" myself in it, or let it go for another time, re-reading the whole thing to get that wonderful depression going again. Sandy salymc@gateway.net http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 20:26:09 -1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: maeve Subject: Re: No, I am not flaming this time (was Re: So long, farewell, or one bad apple) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, I listen as I lurk. I enjoy everyone's input. As a fledgling writer I find the information on grammar and how to use it stimulating and effective. It is a terrible thing to lose Leanne. I do agree that Beth was perhaps a little petty in her attacks, however, she is only one person. She does not represent the whole of the list. Request for money is such a sensitive thing. It needs to be handled with delicacy and finesse. Can we not forgive one another? I love lurking on this list as I learn so much from all of you who participate. I am a little nervous to post mine, and my daughters fan fic, as I feel it is not quite up to par with everyone else's. Yet the help that each one of you, who has writtten and posted, makes available to those of us not quite as eloquent with ink and pen, encourages me want to desire to know many of you on more personal level. My daughters and I read the post from this list religiously. It seems to attract a more intelligent audience. It is also known for its generosity in spirit to its members. Due to the nature of the situation and it's sensitivity, maybe Beth over reacted. However, when we look at her actions as a member overall, she has always been most generous in sharing her knowledge to those of us who are new. This is something that should be taken into consideration. FOLC is one of the best groups on line. All of the people involved make it special. Beth, Leanne, and yourself are all part of the magick which keep us coming back for more. I look at FOLC as a very special kind of family. As in all families, we do not always agree on everything. It does not however, prevent us from being a family. Let us lose no more good people. Let us continue being friendly with one another, sharing in love and good works. As we say in Hawaii, "We are Ohana." Mahalo nui loa Mikki ( Internet mom, who is still trying to impress her kids and the cats) -----Original Message----- From: Cristin J Whitley To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Date: Tuesday, August 11, 1998 6:08 PM Subject: No, I am not flaming this time (was Re: So long, farewell, or one bad apple) >Fellow FoLCs, > Am I the only one who sees this as a horrible event? Losing a list >member (especially one as active and helpful as Leanne) over an argument >such as this is horrible. Can we not find a way to stop this? I found >extreme enjoyment from both Leanne's posts and her fanfics. This is truly >a FoLCy tragedy that this could happen on such a great list filled with >such great FoLCs (now one less). That is all I have to say. Thank you. > >Cristin (who has locked up her blow torch but will NOT let this go >unnoticed) > > >>I will miss most of you, but I am signing off from this list. I have >>given >>this serious consideration over the past couple of days. I cannot stay >>on a >>list where vitriolic flames such as the one I received goes without at >>least some sort of acknowledgement of wrongdoing by the offender. >>There has >>been some verbal sparring here before, but *never* has there been such >>a >>vitriolic and personal attack at such a base and crude level as Beth's >>posts. Yes, even her so-called apology to the list was another attack, >>full >>of erroneous assumptions about what she *thought* I was thinking -- >>*not* >>what I wrote. >> >>I don't want to post an innocent suggestion and get shot down in >>flames >>again -- and I don't want to witness it happening to someone else. >>That's >>not the kind of list I want to belong to. So, au revoir. >> >>I'm also sending mail to Kathy asking her to remove my stories from >>the >>Archive. I don't want my work to be associated with someone so >>incredibly >>unprofessional as Beth Guide. My stories (and the edit page which >>needs to >>be updated) will remain up on my home page (see my sig below). >> >>For the interested, I'm kind of no mail on LOISCLA, I'll be hanging >>out on >>irc and I'll continue helping out with Season 6. I have one completed >>fanfic that's a spin off from Season 5 but, concerned that it may blow >>part >>of Season 6's opening storylines, it'll be on hold until the new year. >>I'll >>send a post to some friends here, mention it on irc and probably post >>the >>url to LOISCLA if it's up :) >> >>I have enjoyed our many discussions and even disagreements but I would >>rather write in a forum where discussion is open without fear of >>flames and >>unfortunately, this list can no longer provide that security. If I >>wished >>the kind of comments Beth delivered, I would have posted to usenet. >>The >>only way I'll be returning is if I receive an apology from Beth >>herself. >> >>Leanne >>(who maybe can catch up on that backlog of fic now) >> >>Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) >>Web Design: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/design/webdesign.html >>Home Page: http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html >>Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: >>http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html >> > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 05:47:08 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: No, I am not flaming this time (was Re: So long, farewell, Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-13 02:41:40 EDT, you write: << I am a little nervous to post mine, and my daughters fan fic, as I feel it is not quite up to par with everyone else's. >> Hey, now that's kind of neat. A mother and daughter fanfic. I like that. I hope you post it to the list. I was working on a post about the basics of writing and posting a fanfic (the old list had one with helpful hints for newbies) but things seemed to spin out of control recently on the list and so I never finished the post Anyway, don't be intimidated to post your fanfic. FoLC love a good story. Spelling and grammar are great tools and necessary tools, but what sustains the reader is the story, and what sustains most writers is the storytelling. If you've run the story through a spell checker (unlike my e-mail, which doesn't come with one ;) and you did okay in high school grammar (please, no nasty essays on the public school system ;) then post the story! ;) We'd love to read it. As to the other matter, I agree, it seems a dispute between two people and so the whole list and/or the fanfic archive should not be seen as one person. I also agree with Demi, as far as I can tell, they're in a tie ballgame now Zoomway@aol.com (remember, DJL was part of a mother/daughter law team ;) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:37:24 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Stark Subject: A Message from Debby Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yikes, there's trouble in Debbytown. I knew something bad was building up for my little computer and I thought about it most of the night. It was hard to get to sleep, but I came to the conclusion I'd start today (Thursday) to hunt around for someone to do a wholesale upgrade. Save various components (CD, Sound Card, software set up), and replace the rest. Sure enough, when I turned it on this morning--my A drive failed! As far as the rest of the computer is concerned, it doesn't even exist on my control panel...! This is good because it won't be shutting down the entire system again (twice was enough for Windows 98, I guess...) Good thing I backed up some important stuff (like the Nfic list)... I hope those diskettes are readable... So starting later today, I hope, I'll be incommunicado for a while. Maybe only a few days. Time to catch up on my reading of things printed on paper! I'll let you know when I return :) Debby Debby@swcp.com who notes that this slows down my work on Dawning... though I do have a disk copy of the latest version at last--a good excuse for having trouble finding time to work on it! :D ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 11:21:45 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Charlotte Fisler Subject: No, I am not flaming this time (was Re: So long, farewell, or Comments: cc: Leanne Shawler , Beth Guide Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit <> Please forgive me for putting my two cents in but I have to say this. Yes this is a horrible event. I have been reading both sides of this since the beginning and wanting to say, please please forgive one another. Remember people are human and sometimes they say things that they may regret later. Don't hold the grudge. Actors say and do things they may regret - witness William Shatner's off the wall statement to Star Trek fans 'to get a life" and which followed and no doubt haunted him for years. Everyone needs to be allowed to make mistakes in their dealings with others. And in my own life, my late husband had a friend of 20+ years. Something happened between them about 5 years ago and they stopped talking to one another. Neither I nor my son Benjamin know what it was. Alas my husband died a year later of chronic cancer. I remembered the friend and sent him a letter asking him to forget what the argument was about and come to the funeral. He never came or responded. So I will never know what went wrong. Please can someone try to get these two to forget their differences? Charlotte who is sitting here crying four years later. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:53:19 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Doris Schmill Subject: RE Writers Showcase In-Reply-To: <19980813050014.495.gmx.1@mx1.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" August 13, 1998 Hi, Annie, hi, folcies, I reallly like the idea of the writers showcase. I have a request here, though: Would it be possible to post the text of the portraits of each featured author on this list each week? I have not remastered web browsing and would hate to miss out on learning more about those fanfic writers who I so admire. I also wonder if there are still individuals on this list who have access to email only and might profit from having the authors' portraits posted here, too. Just a suggestion. ;-) Doris ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:17:51 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: DEBRA GRAY Subject: Of Interest To Canadian FoLCs (I hope!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------NetAddress--cHmsRP2198" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------------NetAddress--cHmsRP2198 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please check the attachment below - it got returned to me by my server, cuz I'd mis-typed the addy. :) (cringing like a Ferengi) Sorry! Debra G dlgray@usa.net ------------NetAddress--cHmsRP2198 Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Forwarded Message" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:09:49 From: DEBRA GRAY To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LLISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: Of Interest To Canadian FoLCs (I hope!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not sure if this is going to be an off-topic thread, so be forewarned. If it is, forgive me - also if this topic has already been broached before I joined the list about 3 weeks ago. A week or so ago I asked about Canadian stations that air L&C, and I got quite a few very gracious notes back from a lot of you - thanks, BTW. Unfortunately, other than generously offering copies of your own libraries, you couldn't help much. Now, just last night I was watching Canada's answer to the Sci-Fi Channel, Space: The Imagination Station, (IMHO one of the best things to happen in Canadian TVland in years) and they were announcing some of the changes they're making to their fall line-up. They mentioned that they'll be airing Babylon 5 and Star Trek: The Next Generation, which is great, 'cuz I love both those shows. But what caught my attention about it was that they're bringing them back BECAUSE OF VIEWER DEMAND. So that got me thinking - why couldn't the Canadian FoLCs launch a campaign to get L&C on Space? (Our show is more SF, IMHO, than Beauty and the Beast, which they are currently airing.) Their website is www.spacecast.com, and they have a page for you to write to them on. If every Canadian on this list (and other people, too, if you wanna help, I think it would work for you, too) was to send them a note, and talk to your non-list FoLC friends - well, let's see what happens! If you want, e-mail me and we can chat about it privately so we don't bother our non-Canuck friends on this list! Thanks for hearing me out - Now I'm gonna climb off of my soapbox and get back to lurking. Debra Gray dlgray@usa.net FoLC Trekker X-Phile M*A*S*Hnic JAG fan Space Regular etc. (ad nauseaum) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------NetAddress--cHmsRP2198 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 ------------NetAddress--cHmsRP2198-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 15:45:51 -0400 Reply-To: demona@shaw.wave.ca Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Of Interest To Canadian FoLCs (I hope!) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Now, just last night I was watching Canada's answer to the Sci-Fi Channel, Space: The Imagination Station, (IMHO one of the best things to happen in Canadian TVland in years) and they were announcing some of the changes they're making to their fall line-up. They mentioned that they'll be airing Babylon 5 and Star Trek: The Next Generation, which is great, 'cuz I love both those shows. But what caught my attention about it was that they're bringing them back BECAUSE OF VIEWER DEMAND. So that got me thinking - why couldn't the Canadian FoLCs launch a ca! Actually, L&C *will* be re-airing, starting this fall in Canada. I saw a commercial recently on CFTO or CFMT, Toronto, but at the moment I cannot remember which it was. In my defence, I saw it at the gym while I was on a stairmaster, so I do have an excuse for the memory lapse! ;-P Demi demona@shaw.wave.ca ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:05:53 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Carrie Lu Sullivan Organization: MailExcite (http://www.mailexcite.com:80) Subject: Re: tan: Lois and Clark posters Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Okay, There's a place in Florida named "Ricks Movie Graphics, Inc." "http://www.ricksmovie.com" He has the two posters that you were describing for $18 dollars each. These are the movie posters 22X34. plus 5.50 for ups shipping for the usa Canada and Mexico 5.00 Other shipping for the other countries depends on the costs in your country. I hope this will help. --- Carrie Sullivan (carrielu on IRC) On Wed, 12 Aug 1998 21:22:38 Priscilla C wrote: >hi :) well, this isn't *completely* off-topic :::self conscious about the way >she types:::, okay i just to warn you, i can't spell if my life depended on >it, so this e-mail will be filled with typos. sorry. > >but oh yes, back to my post ;) at my local comic/swap meet store, i found for >the first time some lois and clark posters, i've never seen them on sale >anywhere else so i was estatic, the guy actually had a couple of them, not >just one; i thought this was a rare thing to find? No? Nevertheless i didn't >buy it because of the price, $25 for one. (which, in my opinion, is a bit >much? or is it? for those folcs who have bought one, is $25 a rip-off or a >bargain? should i get it or keep searching for a better deal?) But since i >wasn't planning on buying it , i thought i could offer to get it for any folcs >out there who would be willing to pay $25 for it, there were 2 designs. > >One has lois and clark from the steam shot series, with the abc logo backdrop, >and the other is i guess from the first season, with the white tank top, and >the superman tatoo on the shoulder saying "have you been to metropolis >lately?" both very nice ones! :) and i guess, i would call them standard >movie size posters? (they didn't exactly have the dimensions of the posters >labeled when it was on display in the case). But yeah, i'd call it movie size >:) I'll probably go back this saturday for my usual comic supplies, so i >thought i'd mention it if anybody is interested, please e-mail me privately >and we'll arrange something. > >priscilla >skeela@aol.com >(hopefully you all could still understand my post typos and grammatical errors >and all! ;) > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 13:44:11 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sara Kraft Subject: Spell-checker quirks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" There are a few times at the end of a story, which I've read what spell-checkers can do to L&C related words. Here are two that I found. I'm curious to know, has anyone else's spellchecker suggested amusing changes? Betsy Harvey (from the post script of "Barnstorm"): <<>> AND Cristin Whitley (from her "It's a Small World After All"): <<<>> (BTW, Cristin: Where can I sign up for this 'Zoomway Group' and when are they scheduled to hop dimensions? ) Sara (who will now continue packing for college....maybe) --------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:54:31 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Stosser Subject: Re: RE Writers Showcase In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980813135319.0076df7c@pop.gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:53 PM 13/08/98 -0400, Doris wrote: >August 13, 1998 > >Hi, Annie, hi, folcies, > >I reallly like the idea of the writers showcase. I have a request here, >though: Would it be possible to post the text of the portraits of each >featured author on this list each week? > >I have not remastered web browsing and would hate to miss out on learning >more about those fanfic writers who I so admire. I also wonder if there are >still individuals on this list who have access to email only and might >profit from having the authors' portraits posted here, too. > >Just a suggestion. ;-) Another suggestion, for those of use who ARE able to browse the website... what about a photo of the featured writer? -- Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- My ICQ# is 11477318 Photos of David (6) and Megan (3) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 17:27:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: RE Writers Showcase In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19980814065431.0069d508@mail.ozramp.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 6:54 AM +1000 8/14/98, Jenny Stosser wrote: >Another suggestion, for those of use who ARE able to browse the website... >what about a photo of the featured writer? Hey, if Annie wants to come to my house with a digital camera and take a picture for her website, great. ;) Seriously, this is a really nice idea, but it does assume that each author is 1) willing to have their picture up on-line, and 2) has either a picture scanned in of themselves already or the ability to scan a picture in and send it to Annie. So, all you authors out there who don't mind your picture up on Annie's website (assuming she's willing), attach a jpeg to your Showcase questionnaire. I'd love to see the pics, too. :) Oh, and I second Doris's idea that the Showcases get sent to the Fanfic list. Another good idea. Kathy (who still needs to fill her Showcase form out ... hmm, now do I send the picture from a few years ago before the baby weight went/stayed on ... or a more recent one? I guess it depends on whether Dean will see it and decide to sweep me away based on the photo choice ... decisions, decisions. ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@webmart.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:38:45 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Stosser Subject: Re: RE Writers Showcase In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" well, if i was sent a writers showcase form (yeah like that's really likely) i would use my wonder woman photo from my website. At 05:27 PM 13/08/98 -0500, you wrote: >Kathy (who still needs to fill her Showcase form out ... hmm, now do I send >the picture from a few years ago before the baby weight went/stayed on ... >or a more recent one? I guess it depends on whether Dean will see it and >decide to sweep me away based on the photo choice ... decisions, decisions. >) > >______________________ >Kathy Brown >kbrown@webmart.net >KathyB on IRC >______________________ > > -- Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*-This message is umop ap!sdn (Jenerator or Some1Else on IRC) -*- My ICQ# is 11477318 Photos of David (6) and Megan (3) on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:07 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic Alert : THE TAI: "A SOULMATES CHRONICLE" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi everyone , The IRC round robin writers have been at it again and I have the pleasure of posting our latest offering, "The Tai" another of the SoulMates Chronicles, set in feudal Japan. This story 's production history is a little different from our usual IRC round robin ;). After writing the three previous SoulMates stories we decided that additional preplanning would be helpful if we were going to write a credible story. As a result we had several online brainstorming sessions and produced a 2 page story outline that served as our roadmap. Then, after a marathon story writing session we felt that there were additional things that we wanted to add, so existing scenes were expanded and new scenes were written to supplement the core story that was created online. I guess you could call this a "groupfic" rather than a round robin, ;). But whatever it's called, the end result is a story of action, romance and humor, and we think we've managed to capture a little of the spirit that made the show so much fun. We hope you enjoy it. As usual, feedback will be appreciated. Special thanks must go to Georgia Walden for coordinating the process and editing this epic ;). Cheers, Eileen Eraygun@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:10 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic: "THE TAI" Part 1 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit THE TAI A SoulMates Chronicle By Lansbury (Lansbury1@aol.com); Mackteach (Mackteach@aol.com); Misha (mhall@sound.net); Missytoo (MissyToo@mindspring.com); Nekanuq (Nekanuq@aol.com); ChiefPam (jernigan@compuserve.com); Zoomway (Zoomway@aol.com); ChrisM (mulders@mindspring.com); chrispat (cp13607@aol.com); Eraygun (Eraygun@aol.com) [Lansbury] H. G. Wells removed himself from his time machine and walked slowly through his house. He was deep in thought as he entered his study and stopped before a tall locked cabinet. "Now, where did I place that key?" Wells said aloud as he began to search each pocket of his coat and vest. Suddenly remembering, with a smile he walked over and opened a small brown inlaid box and removed the key from its hiding place. He fingered the key as he approached the cabinet once again. Very quickly he opened the lock and pulled the double doors open. He once again smiled as he touched a few of the objects that lay on one of the shelves. His fingers lingered over a paintbrush once used by da Vinci, a plume from the hat of a seafaring adventurer, a copy of a newspaper from a small Western town. His smile widened across his face as he recalled where he had gotten each. From his inside pocket, he withdrew a delicate Japanese fan and added it to the collection. "Now, let's get down to the business at hand." Wells moved to close the cabinet but stopped as his eyes focused again on the fan. No, not quite yet, he thought as he lifted it from its new resting place and walked to his desk, leaving the cabinet's doors ajar. Wells laid the fan to one side and once again searched for the key to his middle desk drawer. To himself he murmured, "Pesky keys ... I must see if I can't invent one key which will unlock everything." He found the key he was searching for, unlocked the middle drawer and removed a book from it. Glancing at the fan frequently as though for inspiration, he opened the journal to a blank page and began writing ... "I, H. G. Wells, with the aid of my Time Machine and the Soul Tracker have once again located the two soul mates I first detected in the incarnations of Lois Lane and Clark Kent. This time the adventure took me to Nagasaki, Japan in the year 1603 ... "... The air was full of the scent of sweet cherry blossoms as I quickly found a hiding place for my Time Machine. Using the Soul Tracker to pinpoint the location of the two I searched for, I held it in front of me to scan the area around me. A small yellow light began to pulsate as it locked onto one of its targets and gave me the location of the soul nearest to me. Continuing the scan, I found the other within seconds. They are never far apart. Where there is one, the other is always close by ..." *** [Mackteach] Intent on the technical marvel in his hand, Wells suddenly found himself among the hustle and bustle of a small marketplace. Jostled by some people, he mumbled his apologies. He looked about him and forgot the Soul Tracker. The sounds and colors that assailed him were quite unlike anything he had encountered before. He did recognize some familiar elements: vendors bargaining with potential buyers, children playing in and among the adults, women whispering among themselves, and elderly men sitting and observing everything. The language was also unfamiliar, and he frowned down at the device. After a slight re-calibration of the translator, he cocked his head and listened for a moment. The jumble of alien sounds gradually shifted and cleared into words - still a confused clatter, but now one that he could understand. Local dialect, he thought with a smile of satisfaction and placed the Soul Tracker in his inner coat pocket. Strolling past the various vendors, at first he wasn't aware of the stares and silence that followed in his wake. When he came to the end of the street, however, the sudden silence was deafening. He turned and saw that he had attracted quite a crowd around him. A crowd that while curious about him, also had a deep suspicion of all foreigners. He knew that the Japanese people prided themselves on the purity of their race and their country and had only recently begun to open their minds and their port of Nagasaki to foreign traders. Wells sensed an undercurrent of tension among the crowd, one that became stronger as several youthful men stepped forward. "Why are you here, gaijin? Outsiders have no business here." Wells frowned and touched his hand to his hat. "Dreadfully sorry, but have I offended in some way?" One youth scowled at him and took a step forward. "Here, here! What's all this?" At the sound of another voice, the crowd turned and opened a way for a man in clerical garb to pass through. Stepping to the front of the crowd, he looked at the youths and at Wells. Immediately assessing the situation, he spoke to the youths in their language. "Rintaro? Why are you bothering this man?" The youth that he spoke to lowered his eyes and bowed respectfully. "Forgive me, Father Bernardo. He is a stranger here and I thought he may cause trouble." Father Bernardo raised his eyebrow at that comment. "Rintaro, have I not taught you about the Golden Rule?" "Yes, Father." "Then be on your way. I will deal with the stranger." As the crowd dispersed, Father Bernardo was reminded of something. "Rintaro!" The youth turned back. "Yes, Father Bernardo?" "Stop by the orphanage later. The children wish some help with their kites." Rintaro smiled and bowed deeply. "Yes, Father Bernardo." He turned and hurried to catch up to his friends. Father Bernardo turned to Wells. "Forgive them. They are young and impetuous." "Yes. Quite. Thank you very much for your assistance." "You're welcome. I am Father Bernardo. I run the Jesuit orphanage here in Nagasaki." Wells shook the hand that Father Bernardo extended to him. "I am H. G. Wells, a writer and world-traveler." Father Bernardo's eyes lit up with interest. "A writer you say? What brings you to our city?" Wells launched into his prepared speech about studying the culture, gathering notes for a popular history, acquainting the people of his country with the splendor of Japan. Father Bernardo seemed willing to aid Wells in his "research" but warned him that it might not be easy. "These people are good-hearted and hard-working, but not always quick to befriend a stranger. But, forgive me for keeping you standing here in the street. Please, come join me," he offered. "I have someone I would like you to meet." Wells fell into step with the Jesuit priest, marveling at how the soul of Bernard Klein in its many incarnations was also found intertwined with those of Lois and Clark. [Misha] As they walked, Wells stared at the people, fascinated, and let the sights and smells and sounds of the ancient Japanese city wash over him. Too soon, they arrived at a large, two-story building, slightly removed from the surrounding houses. The large outside gates were open, and as they approached, Wells could see a dozen or so small children running around inside the courtyard. One small boy in pursuit of a rolling ball was about to collide with Father Bernardo, when a voice called out. "Hiro!" The boy stopped short, almost falling over his feet, and looked back. Wells didn't miss the shamefaced look on the boy's face, and neither did the man who had called. "Kenji-san! Konnichi wa..." Wells missed the rest of Father Bernardo's greeting. A reassuring smile from Kenji sent Hiro running back into the courtyard, and Father Bernardo turned to Wells. [Missytoo] The younger man approached, his robes gently swaying as he limped across the open space of the courtyard.. He was tall and broad-shouldered, with the dark eyes and shining black hair of the people of this land, and in his teacher's robes, he gave the impression of a scholarly, gentle man. Wells tried not to stare, but was amazed how much this striking man resembled Clark Kent. Kenji stopped before them. Father Bernardo smiled. "We have a visitor. This gentleman is a writer like yourself, Kenji-san. He is called H. G. Wells." He bowed to Wells. "Welcome. I am Tanaka Kenji." Wells held out his hand to shake Kenji's, but then, thinking to follow the customs of this place, bowed clumsily instead. Kenji smiled. "This is an honor" - he hesitated - "Eichiji-san. I am most interested in hearing about your writing, sir." Wells smiled at the carefully masked confusion on the young man's face as he did his best with the unfamiliar name. "Please, call me Wells," he urged, thinking to alleviate the awkwardness. Kenji bowed. "Certainly. We ... Werusu-san." "Wells," Wells enunciated. "Werusu," Kenji repeated. "Oh my, that is quite a mouthful, isn't it?" Wells murmured sympathetically. Father Bernardo spoke up. "Perhaps Weru-san would do." "Oh, yes, quite, quite. So nice to meet you." Wells bowed again. Father Bernardo invited the men to come in from the heat of the day and have some tea with him. Wells found himself happily following along when a small boy came running up, shouting Kenji's name. Kenji turned and waited for the youth. The boy pulled him down and whispered urgently into his ear. Kenji nodded, patted the boy on the shoulder, then spoke to Father Bernardo. "If you will excuse me, there is a matter I need to attend to." He hobbled quickly away from Wells and Father Bernardo. Watching him go, Wells shook his head in amazement at the familiarity of the gesture. The only thing missing was the tugging at his tie and the athletic gait of Clark Kent. Continued in part 2 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:20 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI" Part 4 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 3 ___________________________ [ChrisM] ******* The next morning, after spending such an eventful night, it was a rather tired Wells who set off in the company of Kenji for the house of Lord Hosokawa. His companion on this morning walk, however, seemed refreshed and rested ... and eager to assume his new duties. Ah, the resilience of youth, he thought regretfully. Hoping to induce Kenji to talk about himself, Wells began to question the young tutor with regard to his new position, but found that a chance remark about his own meeting with the Lady Junmi the day before led to Kenji turning the tables on him. "I did not know that you were acquainted with Lady Junmi, Weru-san." "Oh, yes, quite. She has agreed to let me hear some of her poetry. I understand from Father Bernardo that she's a very talented writer." Wells glanced up at his companion's face, and what he saw there caused him to continue. "A very beautiful young woman, the Lady Junmi." Kenji was silent for a moment, lost in contemplation. "Yes, she is," he said finally, in a tender tone of voice. Wells managed to hide a sudden grin behind his hand as he pretended to clear his throat, a noise which served to jerk Kenji from his abstraction. "Yes, she is," he reasserted, and then added, "a very talented writer ... I mean. I mean that I have heard that she is a very talented writer." Wells bowed, and watched as a blushing Kenji stepped forward to exchange words with Lord Hosokawa's gatekeeper. "Of course you have, my boy," he muttered in an understanding tone. "Of course you have." ******* It did not take long to be admitted into the presence of the lord of the house. To Wells' disappointment and, he suspected, Kenji's even greater disappointment, neither Lady Junmi or the young Lord Jimi were with their father. Lord Hosokawa, it seemed, wanted to inspect his visitors first. Kenji accepted this state of affairs with outward calm, so Wells relaxed, deciding that this must just be good parenting in 17th century Japan. Instead, he studied this new character in the current drama and found himself drawn to the man. Strong and powerfully built, Lord Hosokawa was obviously a person used to command, and more than capable of protecting what was his. It wasn't his well-known strength that had piqued Wells' interest, however, it was something Father Bernardo had told him during their dinner together the night before. Lord Hosokawa was also a man of considerable learning, and had often invited the priest to his house for an exchange of ideas over tea or saki. The Jesuit admired this man, and that in itself would have made Wells anxious to meet him. The fact that he was also Junmi's father made him even more interesting. A man of strong convictions, yet one who could keep an open mind--a rare specimen in any century, and it was that quality which helped Wells to finally realize that Lord Hosokawa held Perry White's dynamic spirit. Somehow he would have thought that Jonathan Kent's soul would once again be a parent for Lois. Interesting twists these journeys had shown him. Even with the Soul Tracker, Wells sometimes had difficulty following all that the two men were saying, but he gathered that Hosokawa was generally pleased with Kenji, even if still a bit skeptical about someone so young being qualified to properly teach his son. After an exchange of about twenty minutes, Lord Hosokawa turned to one of the nearby servants and gave a command. Wells and Kenji didn't have long to wait until both of the children of the house were brought before their father and formally presented to the guests. Young Lord Jimi, as Father Bernardo had predicted, was less than enthusiastic about meeting his new tutor, but being a well-brought up young man, he hid it well. [chrispat] After the introductions, Lady Junmi invited them all into a side room for a traditional Japanese tea ceremony. Wells was amused to notice the sidelong glances that Kenji and Junmi exchanged as they all settled on cushions around the low table. Lady Junmi served gracefully and, as was the custom, kept silent as the men exchanged small talk. Lord Hosokawa had been intrigued by the strange little man who had accompanied Kenji and proceeded to question him closely. He apparently knew quite a bit about the Europeans of this time, and Wells found himself having to think fast to avoid slipping up. He could definitely see Perry's reporter instincts in this incarnation. Junmi took advantage of her father's inattention and studied her brother's new tutor from behind her fan. He was taller than most of the men she had seen, and she admired his large, almond shaped eyes and long eyelashes, but it wasn't his appearance alone that attracted her. There was something familiar about him. Somehow she knew that he was a brave and honorable man, as well as kind and gentle. It was almost as if she had known him somewhere or somewhen else. She listened carefully as Lord Hosokawa turned his attention to Kenji. "So, Kenji-san, how is it that you became a tutor?" "I have always had a love of knowledge and the art of writing," he replied, casting a sidelong glance at Junmi. "Particularly poetry." Lord Hosogawa nodded, but made no comment. To Kenji's relief, Lord Hosokawa again turned his attention to Wells, and Kenji allowed his thoughts to turn to Junmi. Why did he feel so drawn to her? She was beautiful, but he had seen many beautiful women. He had seen her for the first time when she had been on one of her shopping expeditions in the city and had asked Father Bernardo about her. When he heard that her father was looking for a tutor for her younger brother, he had jumped at the chance to possibly get to know her better, even if he knew it was foolish for a man in his position. He knew he had nothing to offer her, but he hadn't been able to resist. He suddenly realized that his thoughts were going in circles and forced himself to pay attention to the conversation. He took one last look at Junmi and was startled when he caught her looking at him with a thoughtful expression. For a moment their eyes met and both blushed and lowered their lashes. Wells had been watching and had to hold back a chuckle. [Eraygun] After a few moments of silence in the room, young Lord Jimi turned to Wells. "My sister told me that the Tai was in the city yesterday. Did you see him?" he asked enthusiastically. Wells smiled. "I did catch a glimpse of him from a distance," he replied smoothly, casting a quick glance in Kenji's direction. "Quite a dashing rescue. But I would be interested in learning more about him. Who is he and where does he come from?" "You are asking questions we would all like the answer to," Lord Hosokawa interrupted. Junmi flushed slightly under her father's watchful gaze and offered Wells and Kenji more tea. "By your tone I would think you are somewhat disapproving of the Tai and his actions, my lord," Kenji said mildly. "No, not really Tanaka-sensei. But it is disturbing that he is masked like a bandit. If he is a man of honor, what is he hiding?" [Lansbury] "Lord Hosokawa, perhaps the Tai is not hiding from anyone but yet wants no one to know his identity. But, sir, that is just my most humble opinion." Lord Hosokawa looked at Kenji. "Perhaps you are right, young man. Only time will tell us who is hiding and who is not. Now tell me more of your background. I want only the best for my son, Jimi." Kenji looked at his cup as if he were weighing each word carefully. "My lord, I have studied..." At that moment a stifled moan came from Wells as he began to move at his place at the table. Wells was conscious of all eyes on him but try as he might another moan escaped him. "I am terribly sorry. I must move or permanently be bent in this unnatural position. Bad back, you know." Wells moved carefully so as not to jostle the low table before him, but despite his care he struck the table slightly, spilling tea as it shook. "Lord Hosokawa, I beg your pardon. I did not mean to cause a commotion at your table." Jimi looked at his father and again down at his own cup. He was fighting a smile. In the corner of the room a movement caught Well's eye. Junmi had slipped quietly away and now returned with fresh tea and a small cloth to clean the spills. Kenji watched as she very carefully cleaned the area and retreated back so the men could continue their conversations. "Weru-san, no damage was done. It takes training to sit properly during the whole tea ceremony. Now, I need to warn you, Tanaka-sensei. In the surrounding mountains are evil ronin, master-less samurai who have turned to banditry. They are causing many problems for our community at large. You are to keep my son occupied so he has no desire to investigate their identity or whereabouts." "Father, I am almost grown and do not need anyone to keep me occupied." Without listening to his son's words, Lord Hosokawa stared into the eyes of Kenji. "You have been warned." [Misha] * * * Within the ruins of crumbling stone and rotting wooden pillars, Eichi twitched irritably as the long blood-encrusted slash on his arm was cleaned and rebound. He watched his younger, unharmed twin with an ill-concealed sneer as Eiji told the half-dozen ronin gathered around him of their glorious dash through Nagasaki the day before. The quiet voice of the man binding his arm distracted Eichi for a moment. "I notice that Eiji-san neglects to mention your encounter with the Tai." Eichi glanced down at the bandage and flexed his arm. "No, Nobuo, he does not. He completely forgets how he ran like a rabbit while I faced the Tai alone," Eichi snarled. "Had I the least bit of help- a distraction, maybe- I could have beaten him." Nobuo nodded, rocking back on his heels. He doubted either of them could have beaten a master of the sword, as the Tai was reported to be, but in the interests of keeping his head attached to his shoulders, said nothing. "He also forgets that the mad dash he started did nothing but raise suspicion about us. We must at least have the appearance of nobility before we can operate with any efficiency in this province." Nobuo nodded again, but turned as his master was called. "Eichi!" Eiji had finished his tale, and the ronin trailed behind him as he approached his brother. Eichi banished all emotion from his face. He did not like his younger brother's casual address. "Yes? "I remembered something I saw in the market yesterday that might be helpful." "So that's where you left your courage." Continued in part 5 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:17 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI" Part 3 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 3 _______________________ [zoomway] Junmi feigned a shocked expression at the impropriety of Mariko's comment, though she was so right. How handsome the Tai seemed. How bold. Yet *seemed* was probably the best word. How could she be attracted to a disguise? The truth was she knew nothing of the man who hid within. Still, when she'd caught that fleeting glimpse, she felt she was remembering someone she had never met. How strange. Her mind was suddenly brought back from thoughts of the mysterious hero when Father Bernardo approached. "Lady Junmi," he said, bowing deeply. "I have a letter of recommendation for a sensei." "So soon?" she asked, taking the paper. "Yes," Bernardo smiled. "He's a good scholar, and younger than most teachers. I think your brother will like him." "Have him come to our home, Father Bernardo," Junmi said, still looking at the recommendation. "Oh, I nearly forgot," Bernardo added as Wells joined the small gathering. "This is H. G. Wells - ah, Weru. He's a writer, Lady Junmi. I thought you might like to meet him." Junmi's polite smile grew larger. "A writer? I'm honored. I ... well, I've tried my own hand at writing, and though it's not very good--" "It's *very* good," Mariko interrupted. "I agree!" Bernardo smiled before Junmi could politely protest. "Then I'd deem it an honor to read your works, Lady Junmi," Wells said, easily recognizing Lois. There was always a spiritedness in her eyes that no restrictive station or class could disguise. Junmi demurred reflexively. "If you think you might like to read some of my poems, I would be happy for your professional critique." Mariko smiled inwardly listening. Lady Junmi was playing her role as nobility must, but she could imagine the young woman grabbing the odd gaijin stranger and bodily dragging him home to read her work. "It's an appointment then, Lady Junmi." Wells bowed. "Excellent," Bernardo nodded. "You can accompany Kenji-san, Jimi's sensei, whom I'm sure Jimi can't wait to meet." Junmi smiled crookedly. "No doubt," she said and tugged at Mariko's sleeve. "We'd better be heading back." "Yes, my lady," the older woman said, and then after they were safely out of earshot, Mariko stopped. "My lady Junmi, this is not my place to say, but a gaijin visiting your father's home--" "Mariko-san, I am not my father," she sighed. "But *gaijin*, Lady Junmi. They are strangers, and there has been trouble." Junmi looked at Mariko thoughtfully. "Who has caused the trouble, Mariko-san? The gaijin, or *our* people?" "That is not my argument, Lady Junmi," Mariko said, a motherly tone to her voice. "Welcoming foreigners into your home during these troubled times is dangerous. What could possibly be of such value among the gaijin that fascinates you to the point of endangering yourself?" "Mariko-san," she said tenderly. "When I see one of the gaijin, I see another part of the world. I will live out my life never wandering far from my home, and so I will never see the places they have left behind. Since I cannot go to their worlds, then I will bring their worlds to me ...one gaijin at a time if I have to." Mariko sighed and began walking again. "Right through your father's front door." Junmi smiled as she followed. "Maybe the back door." [ChrisM] *** Father Bernardo offered supper and a bed to his gaijin visitor, and Wells gratefully accepted both. He could see that Kenji and Bernardo had a special relationship in this incarnation, and therefore felt he would have the best chance of seeing the most of Kenji and Junmi's budding relationship if he attached himself to Kenji's friend. He was placed as far as possible from the children's sleeping quarters because, as Father Bernardo explained, it was hoped that the children's morning routines would not disturb the visitor. If Wells hadn't quite accepted that explanation at face value, he hadn't let on to the priest. Having already witnessed how protective Father Bernardo was of Kenji, he didn't want to let on that he suspected that young man of leading a double life. Therefore, Wells went to bed in the little out of the way room that was given to him, and thanked his host with proper British gratitude. Trying to make himself comfortable on a mat on the floor, he felt pleased with his progress so far, even while wishing that Father Bernardo might have kept a few European customs--at least the ones which pertained to sleeping accommodations. The adventures of the day had fatigued him more than he'd realized, however, and he dropped into a deep sleep almost immediately. A sleep so deep, in fact, that when he was first jolted awake he hadn't known where he was, but the moonlight was illuminating his modest sleeping room, and soon he had his bearings again. With relief he stretched out once more, turning his face away from the window, and that intrusive moon. A bird's cry--plaintive and yet urgent--made him start up again. He'd never heard anything quite like it. Without understanding why, he found himself standing at the window, his eyes searching the grounds of the orphanage for any sight of that bird. It wasn't a wounded bird that he eventually saw, however, but a kite, silhouetted against the moon. And, at the same moment, he heard once more the bird's call ... then he understood. His face split into a wide, appreciative grin at the ingenuity of it. A bird's cry to alert anyone in the know to watch the sky, and then a kite to send a message. No doubt there were symbols of some sort on the kites, or perhaps differently shaped kites were meant to represent different kinds of trouble. In any event, a kite in Japan would not be anything remarkable, and it could be used to communicate over a considerable distance. He thought back to that morning ... "Help the children with their kites" indeed! He couldn't help but chuckle at how Father Bernardo and the Tai were boldly operating in plain sight--just where no one would think to look for them. Putting his jacket on over the night dress the priest had lent him, and stepping quickly into his shoes, Wells slipped out of his room and headed as quietly as possible in the direction of the "bird's" last cry. ******** The Tai moved stealthily, yet purposefully, through the back streets of Nagasaki--intent upon reaching his destination in the shortest time possible. He knew every roof top, every alley, every street or garden, and he'd used that knowledge many times before to arrive just in the nick of time ... and seemingly from out of nowhere. It helped to add to the Tai's mystique; people had said he'd seemed to drop from the sky, which Kenji found secretly amusing. However, if it made criminals terrified of him, then that was just one more weapon in his arsenal. Several blocks behind him, he could hear that a patrol was also coming this way, but he knew they'd not be able to arrive in time. It would be up to him to stop this robbery. There were three of them--all well-armed, but also all heavily laden with their plunder. From atop the garden wall of a neighboring house, the Tai chuckled softly at how simple it would be to nab these three. He had readied himself to leap when a fourth bandit appeared in the doorway, carrying a bound and gagged young woman. The Tai's chuckle instantly turned to an angry growl as he watched the girl struggling to free herself while an old man tried to restrain the ruffian who was abducting his daughter. The big brute casually shifted the girl's body to one arm, and at same time raised his other hand to strike down the older, slighter man, but the blow never made contact. Instead he found himself nose to sword with an opponent who was at once much more worthy and infinitely more dangerous. He heard one of his companions scream, "The Tai!" and was aware that all three had discarded everything and ran, but his attention was all for the man before him. Holding onto the girl only long enough to shield himself until he could draw his own sword, he then callously dropped her and began slashing wildly at the Tai. Like so many before him, he underestimated the hero's quickness, skill and courage--and paid the price. By the time the old man had struggled to his feet and reached his daughter's side, her would-be ravisher was lying sprawled upon the street, unconscious and wounded, but alive. The Tai's actions had appeared so fierce that the old man and his daughter couldn't help but cower reflexively when the hooded samurai turned his attention their way, but they soon learned that the Tai had a gentle side, too. He untied the young woman, then used the rope to truss up her assailant, before taking a moment to assure himself that neither victim had suffered any serious hurt. She had a cut on her right wrist, which he gently bandaged, using a bit of cloth pulled from underneath his sash. They tried to thank him--the old man even offering a reward--but he would take nothing, only bowing deeply to them before melting into the night. When the patrol arrived moments later they found a street strewn with belongings, two shaken but safe citizens, sleepy-eyed neighbors peeking cautiously from their doorways and an unconscious thief whose criminal career would soon be coming to a dramatic, and permanent, end in the Shogun's court. ******* Wells had located a dark, out of the way corner in which to stand and watch for what might happen, prepared to wait for a while, if necessary. Clutching his jacket to himself, unhappy at how easily each little breeze seemed to find its way up his night dress, he was glad that he didn't, in fact, have long to wait. It was the sudden stillness of the night creatures which informed him that someone was coming. "Softer than a leaf's fall, are the footsteps of the Tai," one of the orphanage's servants had told him, and it seemed that this rumor at least was true, for suddenly there he was, at the edge of the courtyard. How he had gotten in past the high walls and barred gates was a mystery to Wells. He watched as Father Bernardo came out of a doorway and circumspectly crossed the courtyard to meet his friend in the shadows near the wall. As they came closer to his hiding place, Wells was chastising himself for having left the Soul Tracker, and its translating capabilites, in his room--now he wouldn't be able to understand what they were saying. Kenji was removing the hood and the mon of the Tai as he walked, and the instant these articles were in his hands, he also discarded the Tai's unfettered gait and heroic air, becoming once again the gentle, limping scholar. Wells thrilled at the sight, remembering other times, other disguises. So taken up with watching was he, that he almost missed the fact that the priest and Kenji's low-voiced conversation was in English. At first surprised, he had to admit that, since most Japanese of this century could not speak any language other than their own, the two friends might just as well have been talking in code. "So, it went well, Kenji-san? You are sure you were not hurt?" "I am fine, Father, and so are the Sasakis. I got there in time to stop both the robbery and a kidnapping." Father Bernardo crossed himself and murmured a small prayer of thanksgiving. "Then go to your bed, my friend, and rest, for you face an even greater challenge on the morrow. Young Lord Jimi will prove harder to subdue than a pack of bandits, I'm sure." Chuckling deeply, Kenji agreed, then wished the older man goodnight, and departed. Father Bernardo watched Kenji for a moment as he walked towards his solitary, one-roomed house at the edge of the orphanage grounds, then he murmured another prayer, this time in Latin, before heading for his own bed. Wells waited long enough for the night to settle again before making his way cautiously back to his room. Chilled, he lay awake for a long time pondering what he'd seen and heard, hoping he'd be able to learn more, and thus slept fitfully the rest of the night. Continued in part 4 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:27 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI" Part 6 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 5 ____________________ [Nekanuq] Junmi had backed away a few feet, startled at being caught where she was. "It was entirely my fault, Weru-san. Please forgive me." She held a certain reserve, hidden behind a fan, but her eyes told a story not nearly as reserved as she glanced from Wells to the room where Kenji and Jimi were, and back. Wells followed her look, and nodded knowingly, walking towards her. "Oh yes, I see. Ah, perhaps, Lady Junmi, we could go somewhere and discuss poetry?" "I would like that, thank you." As they walked across the courtyard, Kenji watched from the doorway. "You see, Sensei? I'm not cut out for this scholarly life. I should be training in the ways of a warrior." Jimi was still busy cleaning up his mess inside. Kenji spoke over his shoulder. "Even a warrior needs to know how to write, Jimi-san...and to be able to appreciate beauty." He sighed, as Wells and Junmi disappeared into the gardens. ***** [Mackteach] Kenji's and Jimi's voices faded as Wells and Junmi walked away. Wells walked slowly, his hands behind his back, his thoughts to himself. Junmi cast a sideways look at the foreigner, wondering how to begin the conversation. "Please, Weru-san." "Hmm? Yes, Lady Junmi-san?" Wells paused just inside the entrance to the formal gardens and turned to face Junmi. For a moment, before she lowered her gaze, Wells saw the intelligence and natural curiosity in her eyes. Eyes that in another time reflected the confidence and spunk of a beautiful investigative reporter. Wells also sensed the same stubbornness and strong will in Junmi that he had encountered in Lois Lane. Junmi smiled. Bowing, she explained. "Allow me to explain, Weru-san. The correct use of the honorific would be Lady-san or Junmi-san. To call me 'Lady Junmi-san' is ..." Her voice trailed off as she searched for the correct word. Wells smiled. "Overkill?" Junmi's eyes twinkled with laughter. "Ah, yes. As you say. Overkill." Wells bowed. "I fear that I shall continue to ... overkill. Your customs are unique to your people, Lady Junmi-san." Junmi lowered her eyes and bowed slightly. "As yours are to you, Weru-san." "Yes, quite so." Wells stepped aside and bowed gallantly, allowing Junmi to lead the way along the stone path. "I trust, Weru-san, that your sleeping accommodations were pleasurable." "Yes, my lady, quite satisfactory. The bed ... what did Mariko-san call it?" "Futon." "Yes. Futon. Most extraordinary thing. I slept most soundly." Keeping up the pretense he had started during the tea ceremony, he added, "I never knew that sleeping on the floor would make my back feel so much better." Junmi smiled. "If your back continues to bother you, perhaps later you may wish to partake of another of our customs? Jontaro-san is quite proficient at shiatsu massage as part of the therapy process." "Perhaps, Lady Junmi-san, perhaps." He stopped by a bench. "But, I don't believe that we are here to discuss my back. Mariko has shown me one of your poems. Perhaps I could hear more. You did say you were interested in my, ah ... professional opinion?" Junmi blushed slightly and gestured for Wells to sit. Settling on the bench with him, she replied. "Yes, I have written a few haikus." Her voice lowered slightly. "But I feel that they are unworthy to be read by another." "Nonsense. I'm sure that they are Pulitzer Prize-worthy." Junmi's gaze turned puzzled. "Pu-ris-ter? I have never heard of this prize." Wells chastised himself for his slip of the tongue. "Um, yes. Well, you see ... it's a ... " The writer in him supplied the explanation. "A high honor that is given to writers and poets in another country. I happened upon it during my travels." There, that was explanation enough without giving away anything, he hoped. Junmi seemed satisfied. "You have been to many places, Weru-san?" "You could say that, Lady Junmi-san. I have seen many places and met many people." "I probably should not say this, Weru-san, but I envy you." "How so?" "I shall live my life here in Nagasaki. I shall never see the many places that you have seen, nor meet the many people that you have met. I shall tend to my father's house until such time as a marriage is arranged for me." Wells heard her soft sigh and even softer next words. "I shall never have adventure." Wells smiled to himself. He reached out and patted her hand. "Do not lose hope, m'dear. I have a feeling that your ... um, adventures ... are still ahead of you." Junmi looked at Wells, her eyes bright. She smiled. A movement out of the corner of her eye caught her attention and she turned away from Wells. Wells followed her gaze. Kenji and Jimi were just outside of the gardens, Jimi listening half-heartedly to what Kenji was telling him as they walked about the compound. Wells turned back to Junmi at her sigh. She smiled sheepishly. "It appears, Weru-san, that Tanaka-sensei has a reluctant student in my brother." Wells heard the change in her voice when she spoke Kenji's name, almost a physical caress. "I am sure that Kenji-san will teach Jimi-san all that he is able to." Junmi was curious. "Have you known Tanaka-sensei long, Weru-san?" Wells shook his head. "I met him only recently, but he comes highly recommended from Father Bernardo." He decided to test the waters. "I also sense that Kenji is a man of great honor and takes his duties and responsibilities seriously. He seems to me to be a fine young man." Junmi nodded. "As you say, Weru-san. A most honorable man." She turned and watched Kenji and her brother for a moment longer. As she watched, she frowned. There was something about the Sensei that seemed out of place. She studied Kenji. Jimi was kicking a stone ahead of him as he and Kenji walked about the compound. Walked. That was it! Junmi had made note of Kenji's uneven gait yesterday. And today, as she watched Kenji walk ... Her mind raced ahead even as she pulled from her memory the few moments that she had seen The Tai in the marketplace. The height, the broadness of the shoulders, the air of self-assuredness, they would appear to be the same. Everything that she sensed about The Tai, the nobility, the honor, she also sensed in Kenji. Everything, except the limp. She wondered ... Her thoughts were interrupted by a slight coughing from Wells. Startled, she turned to him, embarrassment rising on her face at her inattention. "Please forgive me, Weru-san. I was just ... thinking." Wells smiled. He had watched Junmi watching Kenji. And he had seen Kenji every so often sneak a glance toward Junmi. The silent communication that seemed to pass between the two young people wasn't lost on Wells. He knew that the souls recognized each other even before the people themselves did. He cleared his throat again. "Quite all right, Lady Junmi-san." He looked about him. "These gardens would seem to be the ideal place to ... think." Junmi warmed to the change in subject. With a last surreptitious glance at Kenji, Junmi stood and gestured for Wells to join her. As they walked, Junmi explained. "These gardens were designed by my ancestors, Weru-san. Father has used them often for meditation and contemplation. He says that he comes here to discuss his problems with my departed mother. He feels her close to him here in the gardens." Wells nodded. "I understand." He looked around him once more. "These remind me of the gardens my mother kept. She would often talk to the flowers, saying that Father heard her better that way." Smiling, Junmi saw Jimi walking past a side gate. She bowed to Wells. "Excuse me, Weru-san. I must speak with my brother about his sen ... er, his studies." Wells stood and bowed. "As you wish, Lady Junmi-san." He moved to leave, but stopped at Junmi's gesture. "Please, Weru-san. Stay and enjoy the gardens. As a writer, I'm sure that there is much here for you to describe." With a final bow, Junmi left the gardens through the side gate Jimi had just passed. Watching her depart, Wells sighed and continued his walk, trying to organize his thoughts. Earlier in the day, as Mariko had brought him his breakfast, Wells had struck up a conversation with her and had found her to be a fount of information. In Japanese, Junmi meant "pure beauty." Aptly named, Wells thought. The Lady Junmi was indeed a pure beauty, both physically and of the heart. Mariko's face had glowed with pride as she had spoken of Junmi's kindness and generosity to the house's many servants as well as to many in town. It was then that Mariko had shown Wells one of Junmi's haikus, one that she had received from Junmi as a birthday present. The simplicity of the words conveyed a wealth of feelings and images, all in seventeen syllables. Wells was impressed. She was indeed a talented writer, in any lifetime. He straightened his waistcoat and continued walking along the stoned pathway. ***** [Nekanuq] "You are standing on my head." "It would help if you were taller." "I'm taller than you, older brother." "And yet your grand stature is not enough to give me a view over this wall." "Then perhaps you should be down here, and I should be looking over the top." Eiji grunted. "What perfect logic, little brother. Would not two sticks still make the same length, no matter which ends are joined? Quit swaying." "Then it's Nobuo's fault. He must be weak of back or will." "If my masters would kindly notice, a ladder is most suited for employment in this situation," Nobuo muttered, straining on hands and knees with Eiji's heels digging into his back. "We should have found a lower section of wall for our purpose," Eiji grumbled. "The easy way is not always the best way. No one will suspect us of infiltrating Hosokawa's estate from this side. We can get a much better idea of the layout if we are not busy dodging groundskeepers and servants." "Of course not. The wall grows straight out of the hillside. Who would suspect anyone to be stupid enough to invade from here?" "And yet, this work will be for nothing if they hear us." Eichi growled. "Be silent." He tried to get a toehold on Eiji's ear, but found no support in the malleable flesh. Getting a grip on the edge of the wall, he pushed off his brother's forehead, but in their precarious positions, the younger ronin was hardly a firm brace. Eichi kicked, Eiji fell back, and underneath them, Nobuo collapsed from the shifting balance of weight. Eiji yelped as he fell, tumbling head over feet with Nobuo down the hill. Eichi hung tight to the wall for a moment before his arm, weakened by the painful reminder of the Tai's superior swordsmanship, gave out and he too dropped from the wall. He stood at the base of it, looking for his lazy brother and that useless stepping stool of a servant in the brush down the slope. He beat the dust from his clothing, and walked down to where they were picking themselves out of a thicket, muttering, "Amateurs." Continued in part 7 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:33 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI" Part 8 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 7 ___________________________ [ChiefPam] In the gathering darkness of the garden, Kenji guided the Lady Junmi to a low bench. "We may as well be comfortable. And..." he paused nervously, " ...if anyone comes, they must not suspect what we discuss." He wanted to add more, but hesitated. She was of the nobility and he did not wish to seem forward. She smiled, meeting his eyes once before sinking gracefully to the bench. "If anyone comes, we will convince them that we speak only words of love." She was half-convinced that it would be nothing more than the truth. Over the past few days, she had glimpsed in Kenji a kind and sensitive man. Now that she knew (or thought she knew, although she was very sure of her guess) that he was the Tai as well, she saw his courage and nobility of soul. When she added that knowledge to the strong attraction that had been present from the start... she was sure of what she wanted. The only thing she didn't know was what he wanted. She glanced up at him. He was studying her with a tender look in his eyes. She blushed, but returned to the question at hand. "You were going to tell me, Kenji-san, about the Tai?" Kenji shook himself back to reality, aware that he had been lost in appreciation of Lady Junmi's many charms. "Ah yes. Of course, I know nothing for certain," he began, giving her a significant look. She nodded, understanding that he meant just the opposite. "Of course. But all the countryside has been speculating. Please, let me hear your ... guesses." "Well, then. When a samurai family has fallen into disfavor, its members are forbidden to display the symbol of their house, or to act as samurai. But when there is so much disruption and banditry ... a member of that house might not be able to simply stand by and do nothing while innocents suffer." "He might even," Lady Junmi continued softly, seeing the way of it now, "disguise himself and perform good deeds in, well, not secrecy, but anonymity." "Indeed he might," Kenji assented, pleased at her ready understanding. "And it's even possible," Junmi added, with a note of mischief creeping into her voice, "that when he was *not* being the Tai, he might take work as a sensei, and fake a limp to throw off suspicion." "And if the lady of the house didn't believe the limp?" Kenji guessed, beginning to smile as well. "Why then, her curiosity would be engaged, and she might even endeavor to find out more about the sensei in question," Junmi answered. "And so here we are," Kenji replied. "Where would we go from here?" Lady Junmi asked. "That," he said softly, looking her deep in the eyes, "is up to you, my lady." As of one accord they both leaned forward, their eyes exchanging messages of love that their lips had yet to dare. Just before their lips touched, however, a shout arose from over the Hosogawa's wall. "Fire, fire!" Kenji jerked upright, looking around wildly. "Fire?" Junmi asked, still dazed from the near kiss. "Where?" As if in answer, more shouts rose from near the house. "The city is on fire!" Kenji turned and spoke quickly to Junmi. "I must go and help fight the fires, as your father is doing. I'll return as soon as I can." Junmi chewed her lip at the restriction, but she knew that she would be of no use against a fire. "Be safe, Kenji-san." He nodded and ran off, leaving her standing, staring after him. "Be safe, my love," she whispered into the dark of the garden. [zoomway| Jontaro, Mariko's husband of twenty-five years, and loyal servant to the house of Hosokawa for nearly as many, had hurried to the stable the instant he heard the distant fire bell tolling. He had to release the horses quickly. The fire had already claimed a small outbuilding, and the grains and hay stored in the stable would act like kindling, burning the stable to the ground in minutes. The horses were already panicked, banging against their stall doors. Much to Jontaro's horror, Lord Hosokawa himself was trying to mask the eyes of an expectant mare who had become frantic and combative due to the smell of the approaching smoke. "Lord Hosokawa, please!" Jontaro called, trying to be heard over the din of the frightened animals. "I will tend the horses!" It was no use, Hosokawa could not hear him. Jontaro rushed toward the stall just as the mare reared. The back of her head hit a crossbeam, breaking it in half. One end began to swing down. Jontaro pushed Hosokawa, sending his master tumbling over the low gate and out of harm's way, but Jontaro was not so fortunate. The broken, heavy beam came crashing down, pushing him into the corner as easily as a child's hand could have pushed a doll. He moaned in pain as the jagged end caught him in the thigh, pinning him in place. Hosokawa got to his feet and ran to the stall. He opened the gate and the frightened mare galloped past, its eyes gone white with fear. Hosokawa looked at the beam. "It has only snagged your clothing, Jontaro- san," he said, looking at the tear in his servant's garment. "But it's putting pressure on your leg." Hosokawa tugged, but the beam was too heavy. "I'll summon help, Jontaro-san," he said, patting the older man's shoulder, and ran from the stable. A young samurai dressed in a fire cloak entered shortly after. He began unbolting stalls and then moved away. He placed two fingers in his mouth and whistled. The terrified horses followed the sound in the smoke and confusion and exited the stable which was itself now starting to burn. The samurai, satisfied his job was done, turned to leave, but heard someone moaning nearby. He hurried to Jontaro. "Take it easy," Kenji soothed. "Leave, samurai," Jontaro groaned. "I can feel the heat. There's no time left." Kenji, unheeding of the old man's words, pulled with all his strength against the beam, but it would not budge. Kenji was baffled, the beam was not that large, but then he noticed one of its jagged spikes had buried itself in the stall floor. Kenji pulled out his wakizashi. Jontaro's eyes widened. "No! I am an old man - do not kill yourself over me." Kenji smiled. "I have no intention of committing seppuku, Jontaro-san," he said and began digging away at the buried spike with his wakizashi. "The gaijin Weru-san told me that there are so many rules from the land he comes from that even eating one type of food with the wrong implement would be a disgrace," Kenji panted as he continued digging rhythmically. "A samurai killing himself because a beam of wood defeated him would likewise be a disgrace," he said. "You know my name, samurai?" "That's got it," Kenji said with relief and swung the beam away and helped Jontaro to his feet. He pulled the old man's arm over his shoulder and helped him from the burning stable. Once they were clear of the structure, Kenji eased Jontaro into a sitting position against an earthen embankment that acted as a firebreak, protecting Lord Hosokawa's home from the approaching fire. "You didn't answer me, samurai," Jontaro smiled. "How do you know my name?" Kenji looked left and right, and then opened the front of his fire cloak. "The mon of the Tai!" Kenji winced. "Please, Jontaro-san, any louder and they would have heard you at Osaka Castle." "I'm sorry," Jontaro laughed. "It's just that my wife and I have no children, and so Lady Junmi has been like a daughter to us, and then when the Tai appeared ..." Jontaro fell silent, obviously embarrassed by what he was about to say. Kenji knelt next to him. "What, Jontaro-san?" "You'll think me a foolish old man," he said wistfully. "But if I ever had a son, I would have been proud if he had been like you." Kenji tried to swallow. "I ... I lost my father long ago, Jontaro-san and so perhaps I am as much in need of a father as you are a son." He saw tears glisten in the old man's eyes. "Besides," Kenji smiled, patting Jontaro's hand, "there is an old saying that the shortest route to a son is a charming daughter, and the lady Junmi ..." He sighed. "There aren't enough words in three alphabets to do her justice." "Thank you ... I don't know what to call you." "Kenji-san will do." "The sensei?" he asked, the astonishment clear in his voice. "Yes, I ... " Kenji interrupted himself when he saw kites fluttering in the sky above the smoke. It was the signal from Father Bernardo that the Tai was needed. "I have to go ... father, but I always come back." So saying, Kenji ran off, vanishing quickly from view. "Goodbye, son," Jontaro whispered. Continued in part 9 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:24 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI" Part 5 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 4 _______________________ [Misha] Eiji reddened, but let the comment pass. "Lady Junmi was there." A flicker of something passed across Eichi's face, but was gone before Eiji could identify it. "She was?" Eiji nodded. "I was thinking that if Lord Hosokawa and his heir were to have...an accident, and if I married Lady Junmi..." Eichi stood quickly, hand on his katana. Eiji stepped back, wary. Eichi's voice was deadly serious. "No one marries Lady Junmi but me." Eiji's eyes narrowed imperceptibly. "All right...if *you* married Lady Junmi, then the 'respectability' you want is waiting for two things." "If I may, my lord..." Nobuo spoke up, his tone deferential. Eiji shot an annoyed glance at his brother's sandal-licker. "Yes, Nobuo-san?" Eichi said. Nobuo took his rise in status from Eichi with equanimity. "There is another foreigner in Nagasaki. If he were to be blamed for the cause of Lord Hosokawa's death, it would be that much easier for you to woo the Lady Junmi." A smile crept across Eichi's face and his gaze unfocused. "Indeed." His eyes snapped to his brother's face. "Come, Nobuo, tell me more about your idea." Nobuo bowed and followed his master to their chambers. Eiji frowned. He really hadn't liked his brother's smile. He shivered and moved back into the sunlight of the courtyard. ***** [ChrisM] The next few days were a period of both delight and torment for Kenji. The delights were many: tutoring such a lively young pupil as Jimi, having interesting discussions with Lord Hosokawa, getting to know other members of the household, and learning more about the world beyond Japan from Wells. The best delight, however, and also the worst torment, was seeing Junmi each day. He loved her--completely, hopelessly. And, while in the daylight his spirit soared each time he saw her, thought of her, or heard her voice, at night--alone with his memories--that same spirit would plummet back to earth with fearful force. He shouldn't love her. He couldn't love her ... at least not the way he wanted to, yearned to. Not with the cloud of political disfavor that had fallen over his family, and which still hung over him. No ... the best he could do was to watch over her and her family in secret. So, each day he walked to the Hosokawa estate with the strange little gaijin, and each afternoon the two of them returned to the orphanage. Kenji tried to forget his troubles by listening to the tales of foreign lands that Father Bernardo and Weru-san would recount over the supper table, but the only time he could truly ease his bruised heart was when he was able to help someone as the Tai. The ronin bandits were becoming bolder and their assaults on the innocent citizens of Nagasaki more frequent, so he was kept quite busy. It gave him a certain satisfaction to know that his efforts had been successful in putting a number of them into custody, but even that was fleeting. Junmi was visiting his dreams now, and therefore his bed, as well as his life, had never seemed lonelier. Even following the deaths of his parents and older brother, he had not known this level of desolation, for from that grief had been born the idea for the Tai, and his pledge to some day restore his family's good name. He'd felt them with him ever since; his mother's gentle grace, his father's quiet strength and his brother's purity of heart had all been his to call upon whenever he'd needed them. His memories of his family had often sustained him until he'd found Father Bernardo. The priest had become a steadfast friend, as well as a kind mentor, and Kenji had repaid that kindness by teaching at the orphanage school. His life had become quite orderly and finally, for the first time in years, he'd known contentment, and then ... one day, he'd seen Junmi. Even from a distance, he'd been attracted to her, but now that he'd had daily contact with her, she'd so upset his peace of mind, and his world, that he'd found himself tempted to escape his scholar's persona when he was with her. Worse than that, he was afraid that she might have noticed a slip he'd made that very day. Pacing in his room, unable to sleep, he'd replayed that moment in the garden over and over in his head. It wasn't bad enough that his mind had been so full of thoughts of her that he'd taken a couple of steps without limping, but he'd then compounded the error by limping on the wrong foot for a couple more steps. He'd better be more careful tomorrow, or she would surely suspect something. She was no fool, this lady he'd set his foolish heart upon. The cap to the day, though, had been hearing that Wells had been invited by Lord Hosokawa to spend the evening conversing with him, and then to stay the night at his house. Kenji had tried very hard not to be jealous of the gaijin's good fortune, because he knew that Wells had been wanting to hear Lady Junmi's poetry. It wasn't easy, however, and he'd had to resort to repeating Father Bernardo's "Golden Rule" to himself before he could honestly wish a cordial goodnight to Wells. Now, in the small hours of the night, he was still too restless to sleep, and decided to put on the disguise of the Tai. Perhaps if he patrolled the town for a while, he'd be able to work off some this nervous energy. ******* At the edge of town, in the guest room that the housekeeper, Mariko, had given him, Wells was having unquiet dreams. During his stay in Nagasaki, through the good offices of Father Bernardo, he'd been able to meet and talk with several of the town's citizens. He'd quickly learned that whenever he had difficulty getting someone to speak with him, all he had to do was mention the Tai ... or the ronin bandits, and the flood gates would open. Most were grateful to the Tai for what he was doing, and applauded his results even if they weren't wholly approving of his methods, but everyone despised and feared the masterless ronin who had their hideout in the hills nearby. >From these conversations, Wells was able to conclude that Kenji was facing not just Lex's soul or Tempus's soul, but both of them in the guise of twin brothers who had been hanging about the town in recent weeks. While he, personally, had not seen them, he'd talked to people who had, and learned that honest townspeople had tried to avoid them whenever possible. Certain other elements of Nagasaki's population, however, had apparently gravitated to them with despairing alacrity, and several of those were now housed in the town's jail ... thanks to the efforts of the Tai. Wells had no doubt that these incarnations of Superman's enemies would make every effort to harm or kill anyone who stood in the way of whatever they were planning, especially and including the Tai. He was also worried about Lady Junmi, knowing as he did of Lex and Tempus's predilection for kidnapping Lois. He'd taken his fears to bed with him and now they were giving him nightmares. In the eternal battle of good against evil, it was inevitable that the odds would go against "good" at least some of the time. Wells just didn't want this to be one of those times. He'd grown very fond of both Kenji and Junmi, and he could see how much they loved one another. It wouldn't be fair if fate, and the evil twins, would succeed in keeping them apart, and so he tossed and turned in his sleep until, finally, he was able to break free of the dream. It was a while before he could fall asleep again, but when he did, it was with a new resolve: to help his young friends in whatever way he could. [Nekanuq] ***** "Ah, Jimi-san, do you always take the shortcut? Perhaps if you would follow the longer route once in a while, you would find something you haven't seen before." Kenji scolded Jimi during his lesson, but in an easy, almost affectionate way, Wells thought. He was perched in the corner of the room, having promised only to view their customs, and not intrude. Jimi had been fidgety the entire morning, swiping hasty brush strokes on the rice paper in his hurry to master the Kanji characters Kenji was teaching him. "But, Sensei, why do I have to place each brush stroke so precisely? I can get the same result if I do it this way..." Jimi quickly painted the symbol for "water" on the parchment, "as if I do it this way..." and again, he wrote the character, this time as Kenji had been drilling him to do. "Ah, but it is the simple characters that are the foundation for the rest. If you do not write them in the proper order, who is to say you will not miss a stroke, and create a whole new Kanji?" But again, Jimi's attention was elsewhere, drawing another character on the edge of the paper, and Wells saw Kenji stiffen slightly when he noticed it. "Where did you learn that character, Jimi-san?" Wells was intrigued by Kenji's tone, and craned to see what was on the rice paper, although all these symbols seemed pretty, but indecipherable, to him. "I looked in Father's library and found it, Sensei. It was on a woodcut of an eagle...I wanted to know the symbol for the Tai." "And which do you mean, 'eagle' or 'frightened,' Jimi-san? You see? You are so quick with your brush, that you neglect the end of this stroke..." Kenji took another brush and drew where Jimi had missed, "and this stroke should not cross over the others, it should join their ends. "But perhaps you mean to make a pun about the Tai by saying he is scared, and hides behind a scrap of his mother's kimono?" "Oh, no, Sensei! I did not mean that at all. He is a hero! I would be like the Tai one day, protecting the city from ronin, if Father didn't keep me tucked away like a piece of porcelain." Jimi slumped against the table, his chin in one hand, while he made lazy swishes with his brush. "Besides, Junmi is the one who likes to write. I want to be a samurai!" Suddenly, he jumped up, waving his brush like a sword, and knocked over the ink pot. "Jimi-san! Now see what you've done." Kenji reacted surprisingly quickly with a cloth to soak up the spill. Wells decided this was a good time to make an exit, and as he reached the sliding door, he turned, caught Kenji's eye, and bobbed up and down in an awkward bow, smiling. Kenji's return smile was tinged with embarrassment. He backed out of the room, right into Junmi. He straightened and turned. "Oh, oh, terribly sorry, my dear. I had no idea you were there." They bowed at each other like hens for a moment. "I simply must get the hang of this custom," he said deprecatingly. Continued in part 6 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:35 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI" Part 9 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 8 ____________________ [ChrisM] All the shouting, smoke and excitement provided excellent cover for two darkly-clad figures as they slipped over the wall of the Hosokawa garden. They were fortunate, in fact, that there was so much noise because otherwise someone might have overheard their under-voiced squabbling. "You might have noticed that the wind was blowing this way, idiot. What do you think will happen to this precious plan of yours if the fire heads this way?" "We'll have plenty of time, just keep your haori on." "Fine. And just how are you planning on getting inside the house?" "We'll find an unguarded window." "That's it? Father was right, you are the dumb one." "Shut up! As they made their way through the unfamiliar grounds in the ever-growing darkness, they lost their way several times, a fact that Eiji did not neglect to point out to Eichi. "If it wasn't so *smokey* around here, I could see where I was going!" Fortunately for them however, they finally made it to the house, and to their delight spotted the object of their search strolling across an arched bridge in the back garden. They crept closer, almost giving themselves away in their excitement and anxiety to be away before the fires had been put out. From the sounds on the other side of the wall, it seemed that their attempt at arson had gone about as well as their recent attempt at skulking about. *** Junmi paced back and forth across the bridge, watching the glow of the fires from this vantage point. The smoke seemed nearer, billowing above the area of the estate where the stables were located. Her mind was so engrossed with thoughts of the dangers that Kenji and her father were facing that she wasn't aware of the sounds of the approaching kidnappers until they were almost upon her. When she did hear them, she turned to what she thought must be her brother coming to look for her, and saw instead two masked and cloaked figures. They had grabbed her before she could cry out but they were not able to secure their prize without incurring a few bruises. No one laid hands on the Lady Junmi without suffering the consequences. *** An hour later, a very tired Kenji and Lord Hosokawa returned to find the household in a uproar. Junmi was nowhere to be found. Lord Hosokawa was quick to question his people and then muster a group of samurai loyal to his house. They were sent out to search the countryside for his precious daughter. Kenji stayed only long enough to hear what a shame-faced Jimi was telling his angry father before slipping away into the darkness. He made a thorough search of the gardens and then, grim-faced, set off to saddle his horse, his tiredness and sore muscles forgotten. He'd found something which had sent a chill straight to his heart. A man with a crescent-shaped notch in the heel of his right boot had been in the garden. Kenji had seen that self-same boot print already once that day when he'd searched the ground around the garden's southern edge after hearing those strange noises. Whoever had kidnapped Junmi had also been sneaking around Lord Hosokawa's well-tended garden, and Kenji was very afraid that he knew who that was. [Eraygun] Wells intercepted him as he made his way across the grounds of the estate. "Where are you going, Kenji-san?" "I must find the Lady Junmi, Weru-san. If I hurry I may still be able to overtake the cowards who have abducted her." "But, my boy, you are alone. You could be facing a considerable number of them." "I am aware of that," Kenji replied grimly. "But you are only one man ..." "One man can make a difference, Weru-san. It is the way I have lived my life." "Then at least let me accompany you. Perhaps I can help." Kenji nodded. "Very well, but we must hurry." *** "I've thought it over, brother," Eiji said slowly as he tenderly touched his throbbing side and scratched face. "You're right. *You* can marry the Lady Junmi." "Coward," Eichi hissed as he struggled to keep the still fighting Junmi on his horse. "No, just practical. I figure once she's finished with you, I'll be able to marry the 'grieving widow.'" "You idiot!" Eichi snarled. "Thanks to you, marriage to Lady Junmi is no longer a possibility for either of us!" "What do you mean, brother?" "You forgot to bring along the blindfold," Eichi replied in a voice laced with exasperation. "She has seen us and now there is no way for me to present myself as an acceptable suitor. *Now* our only option is to hold her for ransom." "If I forgot the blindfold, dearest brother, it's because I was so captivated by your preparations for our so-called conflagration, that I lost all power of reasoned thought." "Hah! I would have thought it impossible to lose what you never had!" Eichi replied contemptuously. Another snide rejoinder was perched on Eiji's lips, but he hesitated when his brother directed a murderous glance in his direction. Having seen the destructive consequences of that look in the past, Eiji decided that discretion was the better part of valor and his tone became more affable. "Personally, brother, after tonight I find the prospect of having Lord Hosokawa's gold without his *lovely* daughter much more appealing." "Perhaps you are right, Eiji," Eichi reluctantly admitted as he clamped his hand over Junmi's nose and mouth, temporarily stilling her flailing arms and legs. "Besides, even if I can't marry Lady Junmi, I'm sure I'll find a way to *amuse* myself with her while we await payment," he added with a leer. As Eichi adjusted his hand so that it covered just her mouth, Junmi responded to his lustful comments by sinking her teeth into the palm until he screamed. "Again I must agree with you brother," Eiji said sardonically. "This could be quite amusing." [Lansbury] They reached the mountain hideaway none too soon for the weary brothers. "Who would have thought one who carries the name meaning 'pure beauty' could be such a hellion in a kimono?" "Brother, looks can be deceiving," Eichi said as he lowered Junmi onto the ground. Junmi looked from one brother to another and saw this was her chance to escape. As soon as she was free from Eichi's hold she began to run, heading for the trees and bushes. Eiji began to shout for her to stop only to reap the sharp-tongued remarks of his older brother. "Eiji, you are one amazingly stupid person if you think she will listen to you." Junmi reached a tree with a low branch, grabbed it and pulled herself up in one swift movement. She watched as the two brothers ran beneath and past her hiding place. A smile played at her lips at what she had just done. Now, she thought, how do I get to a horse and make my way back to Kenji? She paused only briefly when she realized she had put wanting to return to Kenji above her father. She saw her chance as the other ronin went out in the opposite direction looking for her, leaving a horse unattended. She leaped from her perch and hit the ground running only to be caught by the strong arms of Eiji. A wicked laugh came from him as he held her off the ground. "Look, older brother, your younger brother has caught the prize." At that remark, Junmi used all her strength to toss Eiji over her shoulder and down onto the ground in a single movement. He lay there stunned, then rolled from her as she approached him with fire in her eyes. "No man will call me prize," she stated angrily. "Move away from me or I will do to you what my father has taught me to do to slugs in our garden." Eiji cowered away as she took one step closer to him. "Go. I will say you were rescued by the Tai." "That won't be necessary," said a deep voice in the shadows. Continued in part 10 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:13 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI " Part 2 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 1 _______________________________ [Nekanuq] Wells turned to Father Bernardo as Kenji disappeared. "I say, he seems to be in quite a hurry." The priest gave Wells an odd look, a sort of mask dropping over his expression. Wells would soon realize it was a characteristic Bernardo had picked up from the Japanese. They were a rather shy, private people, who did not let strangers in easily. Wells had his work cut out for him. "Kenji had some important tasks to attend to, sir. He had been on his way just when we arrived." Wells nodded, understanding the cover-up that was going on, and the need not to push the issue further. It seemed Clark Kent had a secret identity in every port, and ancient Japan was no different. He would have to see if he could get the father and Kenji to take him into their confidence. Father Bernardo escorted Wells around the orphanage, explaining how difficult it had been for him to establish such a place among the Japanese, who had regarded him with a mixture of menacing suspicion and great curiosity when he had first arrived some fifteen years ago. "The color of my hair caused them great amusement when they first saw me, not to mention my height and blue eyes. You probably will feel the same thing from them." "Yes, I do believe I know what you mean. However, I'm quite used to being a surprise to people, as if I had appeared out of thin air." Wells let out a tiny giggle at his own secret. "Well, I must say, you are quite a surprise to us all, Mr. Wells. I will admit, I was never one to know fashion, but your mode of dress is unusual, even to me." The priest looked him up and down. [ChiefPam] Wells shuffled his feet and looked away from the Jesuit's penetrating gaze. "Oh, yes? Well, I suppose it is unusual, I never really considered it. Clothes really aren't very important to me, you know." He was saved further dithering by a sudden commotion in the street. "I wonder what that is?" He moved over to stand in the gate of the orphanage, interested to observe the city once more. Father Bernardo followed. Whatever he may have thought about the question of Wells' garb, he held his peace. *** Nearby, Lady Junmi was finishing up her day's shopping. She was the only daughter of Lord Hosokawa, one of the minor nobility, and after her mother's death, she had taken charge of the home. In this, she was assisted by Mariko, the motherly housekeeper. "I believe we've gotten everything, have we not, Mariko-san?" she asked, mentally rechecking her purchases. They had made good bargains today, and had done so in good time. If she were lucky, she'd be able to spend some time working on her poetry when she returned to the estate. "Yes, my lady," Mariko replied, smiling. "If we head back now, you can write while I prepare dinner." Junmi smiled. Mariko knew her so well; the housekeeper was the next best thing she had to a mother. Just then, the commotion from the street reached them and they turned, frowning, to see what could be the matter. Two men on horseback were the source of the noise; they were riding wildly, paying no heed to either people or property in their way. One of them seemed to be pursuing the other. "Eiji!" he shouted, scowling. "You will pay for that!" The other man laughed loudly. "You will have to catch me first, Eichi, my brother." He urged his horse to go even faster, heedless of the objects in his path. The two horses disappeared down a side street, but the sounds of their progress suggested that they hadn't gone far. Lady Junmi frowned, then whispered to Mariko, "Do I interpret their names correctly?" Mariko nodded. "Eichi -- Ei the eldest son, and Eiji -- Ei the second son. Their parents obviously had no imagination. I would judge them to be twins." Junmi hummed agreement. "But with little else in common." The laughing brother's horse thundered back onto the main avenue from a side street, with the other still in pursuit. The situation abruptly went from bad to worse as it became clear that one old lady, either hard of hearing or extremely stubborn, was not altering her course across the street. The lead horse was heading straight for her. Junmi gasped in fear and Mariko clutched her arm, turning away from the accident in progress. Thus, she missed seeing a black-garbed figure materialize, seemingly out of nowhere, and sweep the old woman out of harm's way. "The Tai!" Junmi breathed in awe. She'd never seen him in action before, but this must be he. She studied him as he set the woman upright on the side of the street, and yes, she could distinguish the figure of an eagle on his black-clad chest. Mariko's head popped up. "The Tai?" "Yes, yes, look," Junmi urged, but by this time the mysterious figure had vanished once more. The rowdy horsemen had disappeared as well, leaving the street in quiet disarray. *** [Misha] They were around the corner and halfway down the street before Eiji could rein in his horse. Someone had managed to pull that old woman out of the way of his horse's hooves, and he had recognized the symbol on the man's chest. Just the sort of man to help old ladies across the street. Eichi thundered by, aiming a fist at his brother's head. Eiji ducked and swatted Eichi's mount as he rode by. The horse, already spooked by the commotion in the marketplace, bucked Eichi through the woven straw wall of a nearby house. As Eichi painfully picked himself off the tatami inside, Eiji leaned back in the saddle, laughing gleefully. He was rewarded by a baleful glare from both his twin and the two horses, and just laughed all the harder. Eichi kicked his feet free of the clinging straw, and started to clamber through the torn wall when Eiji realized that his laughter was the only sound in the street. Pedestrians had fled at their passing, and even the horses were suddenly still. Until Eiji's face nearly kissed the ground. His breath was knocked from him as a pair of feet hit his back and sent him tumbling head over foot to the dusty street. He managed to tuck and roll away from the dancing hooves of the horse, and sprang to his feet. His hand was on his katana, and his eyes slid up a polished steel blade to the chest of his attacker. The mon of an eagle was a bold splash of gold against the black robes of the man. He suppressed a shiver; he had heard of this one who wore the symbol of the tai. Eiji's eyes slid further up, meeting the still, brown gaze of a master swordsman. Though their eyes never parted, Eiji felt his opponent's awareness of Eichi's movements, and watched the Tai warily as he stepped sideways, keeping his sword between the brothers. Eichi stepped through the wall and froze. Eiji felt his hand quiver above his sword. There were only the two of them, and no man would mourn a master-less samurai. The Tai's gaze flickered toward Eichi as he drew his katana, and Eiji found his moment. Taking advantage of the Tai's brief inattention, he leapt for the reins of the closest horse, and hauled himself onto its back. He dragged the horse's head around and kicked it into motion. Eichi strangled a cry of rage. The coward! He'd left him to face this preening fool and the governor's guard that would undoubtedly show up soon enough. He brandished his katana and focused, finally looking into the eyes of his opponent. He wanted to see what kind of a man this Tai was before he killed him. He was puzzled at what he found. So used to finding fear, the longest moment passed before he realized that the eyes behind the mask were compassionate, almost sad. This man took no pleasure in killing, Eichi realized, and he sneered. He aimed a blinding slash at the Tai, intent on shearing off his head, but was astonished to see how quickly and easily the man evaded his stroke. Overbalanced, his katana whistled over the Tai's head, and Eichi grimaced as a lightning flash of steel-induced pain blazed its way up his sword-arm. He gritted his teeth and barely managed to deflect another quicksilver sword- stroke. Sweat beaded on his forehead as Eichi came to the same realization his brother had reached minutes before. Lightning was slower than this samurai's reflexes, and the gnawing pit of fear in his stomach suddenly threatened to overwhelm Eichi as he parried yet another blow, this one just inches from his side. A clatter at the end of the street distracted him. Eichi cursed as he saw the first of the patrol round the corner, and he looked back to see the Tai step back, bow and fade into the shadows. Eichi fought off the sudden weakness of relief in his knees, and sprinted for his horse. He cursed the animal as it danced out of reach, and threw himself desperately into the saddle. His arm twinged with pain, but he forced it down and bared his teeth in a snarl as he galloped out of Nagasaki. [ChiefPam] ******* "Wait until I tell Jimi," Junmi giggled, as she and Mariko resumed their walk. "Oh, Mariko, was he not the finest figure of a man...? I wonder what his face looked like?" she continued. Mariko laughed. "You can't fool me, my lady. You weren't looking at his face." Continued in part 3 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:30 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI" Part 7 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 6 _____________________________ [Nekanuq] Kenji heard a cry, and a splintering crash of wood and rustling leaves. Mindful of Lord Hosokawa's warning to keep his son from harm, he made an excuse to keep the excitable boy from following him into harm's way, and assigned him to practice writing until he returned. He limped around the corner of the building, shedding his kimono in the trees as he made his way towards the disturbance he'd heard, and slowing only long enough to slip the pebble from his right shoe. By the time he was tying the mask over his head he was running swiftly along an overgrown path. He reached the wall marking the edge of the estate grounds and slowed, listening and looking for signs of trouble. He heard only the wind through the leaves. He scaled the wall easily and walked along the top, scouring the hillside below. ***** "Well, brother, have you any more bright ideas?" Eiji was working a thistle branch from his collar. Eichi turned to him sharply. "I always have a plan." "As brilliant as this, I'm sure ..." Eichi clamped his hand over his brother's mouth, having heard a noise uphill. "Shhh," he whispered, as he saw the gold mon of the Tai on the black-robed figure atop the wall, his kimono fluttering around him in the wind. The orange and red hues of sunset outlining him in a glowing brilliance unnerved Eichi. A searing pain shot through the distracted ronin's hand as Eiji's teeth sought blood. Clenching his jaw, Eichi yanked his hand away. "Don't ever do that again," Eiji hissed. Eichi felt rage well up, and only managed to keep a clear head with the knowledge of the Tai nearby. He gestured silently for the others to look up at the wall at the Tai moving closer to the point they had attempted to climb. They melted silently into the trees and along a path back to their horses. It wasn't until they were a safe distance away that anyone spoke again. "Now, what do you suppose *he* was doing there?" Eichi wondered aloud. "Unless he is supernatural, there is no way he can be everywhere. We must make sure he is distracted if we are to succeed in our ultimate goal." ***** Junmi found her brother using the wrong end of his ink brush to toy with a beetle. "Where is Kenji-sensei? Why are you not doing your lessons?" Jimi looked up. "He left suddenly. He said he had to speak with Father Bernardo...something about the Rice-Of-The-Moon Club? He told me to practice writing." "Then you should do as he says. Get back to your rice paper and your ink pot, little brother." She hustled him back to his studies. To herself, she wondered, "Father Bernardo? Rice-Of-The-Moon Club? How very strange the gaijin are." ***** The Tai worked his way along the wall until he noticed scuff marks in the dirt outside the perimeter. Even in the dimming light, his eye picked up the path of broken grass and bushes leading down the hill and into the forest. He jumped down and followed the footprints which became hoofprints and were finally lost among many other tracks along a well-used wagon trail. But he had seen enough to know it wasn't an accidental occurrence along the estate wall. Returning to his clothing left hidden among the bushes in the estate, he quickly changed and replaced the pebble which reminded him to limp. He made his way back to the gardens thinking about what he had seen. He was pleased but rather surprised to not only find Jimi where he had left him, following instructions to practice his characters. Assuming his role of tutor once more, he pushed aside the discoveries of the day. There would be time after dinner to contemplate what they might mean. ***** Wells found Kenji in a corner of the Hosokawa estate's garden. He was sitting, his legs folded underneath him, staring at a large stone in a rippled pool of sand. As Wells approached, the young man looked up, startled. "I beg your pardon, my boy, please forgive my intrusion." Kenji smiled shyly, but his mind still seemed distant. "Weru-san, there is much to consider in this life, is there not?" Wells beamed. "Ah, yes, I believe there is." They remained silent for a few minutes, before Wells finally broached the subject. "You have a heavy burden placed on you, Kenji-san. But believe me, you are quite up to the task." Wells held out a pebble he had hidden in his palm, removed his shoe, and dropped the rock in. "You see, I do understand." Kenji looked at Wells sharply, the mask about to drop over his features, when something in the open kindness of Wells' eyes stopped him. He dropped his gaze, and spoke. "Yes, Weru-san. It is so. These are dangerous times to live in. I am...kept very busy." "You have great honor in your soul, Kenji-sensei. I see it radiate from you." Now Kenji was truly embarrassed, to be so spoken of by this strange little gaijin. How could he know this? "You ... are a writer ... is this ... how you would speak? Is this how you would understand such things?" "Ah, my boy...well, perhaps, in a way, yes, that could be an answer." Wells tilted on his heels and looked around. "But I do not know everything. I am only an observer." Kenji nodded, seeming to understand. Wells looked about to say something, but held his tongue as he watched Kenji consider his next words. A man of thought, and of action, Wells realized. He does not take his situation lightly. He never would. Instead, Wells waited, and looked over this austere landscape Kenji had been contemplating on, the sand raked meticulously into corrugated ridges which flowed like currents around rock islands. His eye was drawn to follow the paths of the sand. Kenji spread his arm out towards the stone in the sand. "Who is the rock, and who is the sand, Weru-san? Do we stand motionless while the world moves around us? Do we force that movement? Or are we the sand, coursing past the stationary object? Have I become what I am because of my own actions, or do I only follow the stream fate has set me on?" "If there's one thing I've learned in all my...travels...it is a comprehension of human...er, certain humans'...nature, Kenji-san. You do not simply *react* to the events around you...you take action that is uniquely your own." Kenji smiled again, that engaging flash of whiteness Wells would know in any age. "I hope you are right, Weru-san. Otherwise," and now, he pointed further into the rock garden, "I might become like that stone over there, overwhelmed with the unceasing sand spilling over it." After a moment, he stood, very slowly, and pulled a gleaming sword from the folds of his kimono. "This was my father's. It is all I have left. Do you know about the katana, Weru-san?" Wells shook his head. "The metal is folded, layer upon layer, until the edge is honed to a fine, sharp, strong blade." Kenji fingered the sword. "Usually, when a warrior becomes a samurai, he has his own sword made, one that tells who he is, where he comes from." Kenji continued staring at the blade. "I never got the privilege, Weru-san." [zoomway] Wells placed a comforting hand on the young warrior's shoulder. "Why have you no sword, my boy?" "Yes," a voice asked from the shadows. "I would very much like to know this also, Kenji-san." Wells and Kenji looked up as Lady Junmi emerged from the darkness. There was an expression on her face that was hard to decipher, though Wells suspected that hundreds of years from now, her soul would carry that same expression as she triumphantly removed a famous pair of glasses. "Lady Junmi .. I ... that is ..." Kenji found himself taken utterly by surprise and was hopelessly tongue-tied, as if she didn't usually manage to disconcert him enough as it was. She moved very close to him and looked deeply into his startled eyes. "What you say here, Kenji-san, is a secret I will keep." Wells removed his bowler hat and fanned himself. "Dear me, a stunning stealth approach," he said, beads of perspiration dotting his forehead. "I suppose my attire is inappropriate to the climate," he babbled, dabbing his face with a handkerchief. "But when I tried on that silk kimono young Lord Jimi offered, I looked rather like Lady Hornsby at Ascot. Including the mustache, unfortunately. I remember this extraordinary hat she wore--" Kenji, his eyes inexorably locked with Junmi's, spoke softly. "I'm sorry you have to retire so early, Weru-san." "How's that, my boy? I wasn't going to re ... oh, quite!" he said, finally catching on. "Yes indeed. All the activity of these last few days, plus the food and intoxicating air, the--" "Good*night*, Weru-san." Wells covered his mouth and coughed. "Goodnight, Kenji-san, Lady Junmi." He turned on his heel and was gone. The Lady Junmi thought herself bold, but this sudden forwardness from what had been a rather even-tempered sensei caused her to break the intense eye contact. She began to walk, smiling inwardly as Kenji-san followed at her side. "So, you're not a sensei after all," she stated matter-of-factly. Kenji touched the sleeve of her kimono. "Lady Junmi," he said, causing her to face him once again. "This is a dangerous secret. If you knew--" "I'm safe here. My father's house is not a powerful one, and Nagasaki is quite remote," she said reassuringly. Then she looked at Kenji for a moment, and concern filled her eyes. "Those things you said to Weru-san about the stone and the sand. Don't ever forget that Japan is a stone, Kenji-san." She impulsively touched his hand. "It has changed so little for so long, that even if the great samurai Tajima, who cut arrows hundreds of years before you and I were born, were to return, he would know this Japan." Kenji took a deep breath. The touch of Junmi's hand had stolen away the very air in his body. "Are you saying the sand can never win against the stone ...my lady Junmi?" "No. I'm not saying that," she smiled, equally moved by their physical contact. "I've seen sand lifted by the wind with such force that it polished away the blemishes on a stone, and old Jontaro once told me that an earthquake had shifted the sand near the shore so significantly that a great stone tumbled into the sea." "But ..." Kenji said, returning her smile, knowing she had left a qualifier unspoken. "But one grain of sand needs an ally to be stronger," she said. "Tell me about the Tai." Kenji made up his mind. He didn't know why he should trust her, but the feeling was so strange whenever he was near her. He knew he could deny her nothing. He sighed. "There was a struggle a generation or so ago. Let's just say that my people lost, and fell into disfavor." Junmi stepped very close to him. "A voice carries on a still night. Whisper, Kenji-san." Continued in part 8 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:41 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI" Part 11 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 10 __________________ [ChrisM] ***** Lord Hosokawa heard the return of his daughter before he saw her. The little procession attracted quite a crowd as it progressed through the town. Before they had left the woods, Kenji had resumed his tutor's disguise and was assured by Jimi and Junmi that his secret would be safe with them. Wells told them that he also could be trusted and besides, he added, he would not be staying much longer in Japan anyway. As soon as they reached the gate of their house, Junmi and Jimi ran forward to hug their father and show him that they were safe and unharmed. Lord Hosokawa pressed his children to him in deep gratitude and then looked over their heads to where Kenji stood. "Sensei, you have returned to me what I value most in life. Is there any way I can repay you?" "The safety of Lady Junmi and young Lord Jimi is enough, my lord." Kenji bowed low and then turned to leave, but Junmi was whispering something in her father's ear. "Wait, Sensei," Lord Hosokawa called out. "I think I know of a way to pay my debt to you." He smiled down at his daughter. "I understand you could use a friend in a high place." [Mackteach] As Kenji paused and waited for Lord Hosokawa to continue, Wells looked from father to daughter. He saw Junmi looking at Kenji through lowered eyelashes, her gaze soft, her eyes smiling at him. Lord Hosokawa's face was impassive, giving nothing of what he was feeling or thinking. Wells looked closer. Actually, there was something. His eyes too had a sparkle in them. What Wells saw both encouraged him and made him nervous for Kenji. He held his breath as Lord Hosokawa continued. "If a grateful father were to petition a well-placed ... friend ..." Except for Kenji's sharp intake of breath, he remained still. "Jontaro!" Lord Hosokawa called out. "Here, my lord." Jontaro limped forward and bowed. "Prepare my writing utensils. I wish to send a letter to the Shogun." He smiled at Kenji as he said his next words. "I wish to petition for the creation of a new House here in Nagasaki." Kenji and Junmi's eyes met. "The House of Kentaka." At Lord Hosokawa's words, Kenji looked at him in surprise before bowing deeply. "My lord. The honor is too great." "You have brought my children back safely to me, Sensei. No honor is too great." "Sensei-san! If the Shogun grants Father's petition, you can marry my sister!" Junmi looked sharply at her brother. "Jimi-san ..." her voice trailed off at the sound of her father's chuckling. "As I had hoped, my son." He looked at the surprised expressions on Junmi's and Kenji's faces. "Do not forget that I know of all that goes on in this house." Behind Lord Hosokawa, Jontaro and Mariko bowed slightly. Wells nodded approvingly. Tugging on his waistcoat, he cleared his throat. Lord Hosokawa turned to the Englishman. "Weru-san, your presence in my house has been ... enlightening." He bowed deeply. Wells returned the gesture, making sure that he bowed just as deeply. "As it has been for me as well, Lord Hosokawa-san." He straightened. "I have truly enjoyed my time here. But I fear my journey must continue." Breaking with protocol, Junmi left her father's side and walked toward Wells. "I shall miss our chats, Weru-san." Wells bowed. "As will I, Lady Junmi-san." She pulled her fan from her obi and presented it to him. "Please. Take this as a token of my thanks and appreciation for all that you have done." Her eyes brightened. "Kenji and I will never forget you." Wells cleared his throat. "Yes, well, quite," he said, and watched as she moved to stand by Kenji. Yes, he thought, all is right. He turned to leave, not exactly sure of the proper etiquette. "Weru-san!" He stopped as Kenji walked toward him. "Yes, m'boy?" Kenji began to bow, but stopped. Instead, he smiled widely, a smile so very reminiscent of Clark Kent that Wells couldn't help but return it. As Kenji continued to smile, thanks in his eyes, he slowly, tentatively extended his hand. "Thank you, Weru-san. For everything." Wells shook Kenji's hand. "My pleasure, Kenji-san. My pleasure." Wells sighed with satisfaction as Kenji returned to his place beside Junmi. Withdrawing his watch from the pocket in his vest, he smiled, nodded, and took his leave. [Lansbury] *** Wells closed his journal and laid his pen down beside it. With a smile he again picked up the Japanese fan and looked at it one last time before rising and walking to the open cabinet near his desk. He placed the fan carefully on the shelf beside the plume. Gazing at the fan fondly, he closed and locked the double doors. He left the study to go straight to his library. Once there he began to search the shelves while he muttered to himself. "Where would I find that? Oh, yes, here it is." In a book called "Japanese Houses Past and Present" he turned to the index and searched for the name Kentaka. Finding what he was looking for, he turned to page 244 and was relieved to read that the House of Kentaka was established in the year 1603 and had prospered for many generations after. A sense of great satisfaction came over him as he closed the book and returned it to its place. His eye was caught by another book, a slim volume of poetry he had recently added to his collection. "Ahh, perfect, just what I need on a warm summer's evening." Wells settled into his favorite chair and began to read: 'Tonight is for poems, And to dream of adventures Tomorrow may bring.' THE END ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:14:38 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: New Fanfic:"THE TAI" Part 10 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit The Tai continued from part 9 ________________________ [Misha] Life slowed to a crawl for Eiji. He watched Junmi's eyes widen in surprise. She started to spin in place, but instead crumpled to the ground to lie at his feet. Eichi stood over his brother, a contemptuous sneer on his face, and his short sword drawn. "Maybe I should crush you like a cowardly slug, brother." Eiji scrambled backwards in the grass until his back hit a tree. He used the tree to lever himself upright, his eyes never leaving the gleaming edge of his brother's wakizashi. Suddenly Eichi froze, his hand going to his katana. Eiji's eyes met his brother's and saw something he'd never seen there before. Fear. It was then that he realized that the tree behind him was no tree. He dropped to the ground and rolled away from the black-garbed figure behind him. Making sure that their attention was on each other, Eiji melted into the shadows, leaving the Tai and Eichi to face each other. The tip of Eichi's katana trembled, and the barely healed cut on his shoulder ached. The look in the eyes of the Tai held no fear, no anger. Only resolute purpose. And, Eichi feared, death. A groan rose from near his feet, and the slight movement at the bottom of his peripheral vision almost broke his concentration. The flicker of concern that crossed his enemy's eyes puzzled him, but not enough for him to miss the break -- the sudden downward glance at the lady at his feet. Eichi struck, but his attack was spoiled by a sudden cry from behind him. "Kenji! Look out!" The tip of his katana passed through the material at the back of the Tai's kimono as he ducked under Eichi's swing. Kenji rolled under the stroke, coming to his knees over the prone body of Junmi, still shrugging off her unconsciousness. Eichi had barely registered his opponent's proximity when he saw the hilt of a wakizashi protruding from his stomach. The whisper "A scholar?" were his last words as he slipped off the blade into the grass. Over the body of his enemy, the Tai met the eyes of Jimi standing in the shadows, and behind him, Wells and Nobuo. [zoomway] Kenji looked down at the bloodied wakizashi. "Kenji-san," Junmi whispered. She was finding it difficult to sit up. Kenji helped her. "I'm right here, Lady Junmi," he said, supporting her against his shoulder. She looked at the wakizashi. "The blood, you weren't--" "No," he said softly. "It's Eichi's blood. I suppose it's for the best that I don't live as a warrior. I never could kill and feel any kind of honor in it." "Oh, please," a familiar, sarcastic voice spoke. All faces turned to Eiji, who was sporting an arquebus. "As killing becomes more efficient, honor has less to do with it than winning, and I *like* winning." "Oh dear," Wells whispered. "A primitive firearm." Eiji raised his eyebrows. "How perceptive, gaijin. Yes, a gift from a Dutch trader. Actually a swap," Eiji laughed. "I left my sword in his throat, and he didn't object to me walking off with this weapon." Kenji helped Junmi to her feet, but made certain he stood between her and Eiji. "What do you want, Eiji-san." "An honorific for me, Kenji-sensei? I'm deeply touched, really. I like the mon of an eagle on your armor. It makes a good target." "Then take aim, Eiji-san," Kenji said. No sign of fear was in his voice or eyes. "But I've seen those weapons. Make certain you don't miss, and that the powder is dry, and the flint is fresh, because I promise you, one misfire is all you'll get." Eiji considered the Tai's words. He had in truth never fired such a weapon, and certainly had it been more efficient, the Dutch trader from whom he liberated it with such ease would have had the upper hand. Doubt plaguing the cowardly mind of Eiji, he stepped much closer to the Tai, at least eliminating the possibility of missing. [ChiefPam] Eiji readjusted the arquebus one last time. Kenji stood straight, facing down the ronin. He was conscious of Junmi behind him. "Lady," he whispered, "Please move back. If he does hit me, I'm not certain that the ball will stop before it hits you..." Junmi shook her head. "If he's aiming at you, that's the safest place to be." Eiji scowled at that comment. "Besides," she lowered her voice so that only Kenji could hear it. "If you are dead, I do not want to live." Kenji's eyes began to glow, and he faced Eiji with a new confidence. "Go on, then," he mocked. "Fire if you have the courage." "I'll show you what I've got--" but they would never know what he meant to say, for at that moment, Jimi rushed in from the side and knocked Eiji to the ground. Kenji laughed, delighted at this turn of events. Jimi and Wells took charge of tying up Eiji, leaving Kenji free to turn to Lady Junmi. [Chrispat] Kenji started to speak, but Junmi forestalled him. She reached up and pulled the mask from his head. "I want to look at your face. For a moment I thought I was going to lose you." She traced a finger over the eagle sign on his chest. She was gazing into his eyes with love and admiration and Kenji forgot what he had been going to say. They moved closer to each other as if drawn by magnets until their lips touched. Eiji snorted. "Please blindfold me. If I have to watch this, I will be sick." Wells chuckled at the familiar line. Jimi was watching with wide eyes. If his father heard about this, he would be furious. Noble maidens did not go around kissing almost strangers, especially in public. But then he remembered. Kenji was the Tai, and he, Jimi, had saved his life. "Junmi!" he shouted. "Did you see? I saved the Tai's life?" He ran around the clearing repeating the words to any who would listen. Junmi suddenly realized what she was doing and pulled away from Kenji, blushing furiously. Kenji cleared his throat. "Lady Junmi, please forgive me." He lowered his voice and whispered so only she could hear. "I love you." She whispered back, "I love you too," and then turned to her excited brother and Wells."What are we going to do with this dog? He knows the Tai's secret also." [ChrisM] "He must be given over to the proper authorities, Junmi-san," Kenji said. "He is our prisoner." Junmi looked mutinous. It was clear that she now valued Kenji's safety over the life of one such as Eiji. She was also amazed that he could behave so honorably to one who just moments before had been trying to kill him. Young Jimi, too, was all for dispatching the villain then and there, but Kenji wouldn't hear of it. Eiji must pay for his crimes, but not by their hands. Wells watch Jimi's face change at the note of censure he could hear in Kenji's voice. Apparently Kenji noted it, too, for he came forward to lay his hand gently on the boy's shoulder. "I haven't yet thanked you for saving my life tonight, young Jimi-san. You were very brave, but ... how did you know where to find me?" Pleased to once again see approval in the eyes of someone he so admired, Jimi was more than willing to describe in detail all about how he had followed Kenji and Wells. Kenji glanced in Junmi's direction and could see a tired smile on her face as she listened to her brother's tale of adventure. She'd had quite an adventure of her own that night, but she would not be one whose courageous spirit would let her admit to fatigue, so while he listened to Jimi, Kenji whistled for his horse and then tenderly helped Junmi to mount. They set off in the direction of Nagasaki, with Jimi still chattering away until he was rudely interrupted by Eiji. "Please, can't somebody make him be quiet? It's bad enough that I'm to be dragged through the streets like a common criminal, but must I listen *that*?" "You *are* a common criminal," Kenji reminded him coldly. "That mon of yours must be tied too tightly, because it's interfering with the flow of blood to your brain. There is nothing 'common' about me!" Jimi looked as if he wanted to hit the boastful ronin, but Kenji once again put a hand on his shoulder and the boy subsided. "In fact," Eiji continued, "if you let me go I can really make it worth your while." "I doubt it," Kenji said dismissively before turning to make sure that Junmi was doing all right. Eiji stumbled and, with his hands bound, wouldn't have been able to keep himself from falling, but Wells and Jimi reached out to steady him. Instead of being grateful, however, Eiji just swore at them. "Unhand me, you cretins!" Kenji's eyes narrowed in anger, but still he kept his tongue. With any luck, he might be able to learn about other hideouts from this cowardly bully. "Listen, Tai ... er, Kenji ... whatever you want to call yourself ... I have information. Valuable information, that I'll trade for my freedom. This bandit stuff was all my brother's idea. I just want to lead a peaceful life--" "You just wanted to kill the Tai!" Jimi interrupted to remind him. Kenji's eyes twinkled in silent amusement at Jimi's defense of him, but he said to Eiji, "You didn't look very 'peaceful' a little while ago." "A misunderstanding, I assure you! I was merely defending myself. Surely you can understand that." He searched Kenji's face for any sign of weakening, but saw none. This Tai business must have gone to the sensei's head. Getting desperate now, Eiji quickly looked around him for any sign of his recent fellow criminals, and when he didn't see anyone except his traveling companions, his voice took on a more urgent tone. "Look, you want to make a name for yourself, flashing that mon all over town and moonlighting in black silk, that's your business. But I can help you. I know of one felon that the Shogun would love to get his hands on. His name is Nobuo, and he's done some very ... creative things with a sword. Unfortunately, one of the people he practiced on had powerful friends." Eiji's eyes shifted around once again, then he turned back to Kenji. "What if I could arrange for you to be able to catch this guy? I'd do that if we can strike a deal. I--" The flow of words abruptly stopped as an arrow flew through the air, straight into Eiji's traitorous heart. Kenji swirled, drawing his wakizashi almost quicker than the eye could follow, and threw it in the direction of the arrow's flight. The bushes trembled for a moment, and then Nobuo's dead body fell to the ground. Junmi's horse had started at the suddenness of the movement around him, so Kenji was occupied for a moment or two with quieting the frightened animal. Wells and Jimi, on the other hand, stood with mouths opened, staring from the body of Eiji to that of his assassin and back again. "My word!" Wells muttered in awe. Continued in part 11 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:10:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Robin and Chip Burgess Subject: New Fanfic :"THE TAI" Part 4 of 11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The Tai continued from part 3 ___________________________ [ChrisM] ******* The next morning, after spending such an eventful night, it was a rather tired Wells who set off in the company of Kenji for the house of Lord Hosokawa. His companion on this morning walk, however, seemed refreshed and rested ... and eager to assume his new duties. Ah, the resilience of youth, he thought regretfully. Hoping to induce Kenji to talk about himself, Wells began to question the young tutor with regard to his new position, but found that a chance remark about his own meeting with the Lady Junmi the day before led to Kenji turning the tables on him. "I did not know that you were acquainted with Lady Junmi, Weru-san." "Oh, yes, quite. She has agreed to let me hear some of her poetry. I understand from Father Bernardo that she's a very talented writer." Wells glanced up at his companion's face, and what he saw there caused him to continue. "A very beautiful young woman, the Lady Junmi." Kenji was silent for a moment, lost in contemplation. "Yes, she is," he said finally, in a tender tone of voice. Wells managed to hide a sudden grin behind his hand as he pretended to clear his throat, a noise which served to jerk Kenji from his abstraction. "Yes, she is," he reasserted, and then added, "a very talented writer ... I mean. I mean that I have heard that she is a very talented writer." Wells bowed, and watched as a blushing Kenji stepped forward to exchange words with Lord Hosokawa's gatekeeper. "Of course you have, my boy," he muttered in an understanding tone. "Of course you have." ******* It did not take long to be admitted into the presence of the lord of the house. To Wells' disappointment and, he suspected, Kenji's even greater disappointment, neither Lady Junmi or the young Lord Jimi were with their father. Lord Hosokawa, it seemed, wanted to inspect his visitors first. Kenji accepted this state of affairs with outward calm, so Wells relaxed, deciding that this must just be good parenting in 17th century Japan. Instead, he studied this new character in the current drama and found himself drawn to the man. Strong and powerfully built, Lord Hosokawa was obviously a person used to command, and more than capable of protecting what was his. It wasn't his well-known strength that had piqued Wells' interest, however, it was something Father Bernardo had told him during their dinner together the night before. Lord Hosokawa was also a man of considerable learning, and had often invited the priest to his house for an exchange of ideas over tea or saki. The Jesuit admired this man, and that in itself would have made Wells anxious to meet him. The fact that he was also Junmi's father made him even more interesting. A man of strong convictions, yet one who could keep an open mind--a rare specimen in any century, and it was that quality which helped Wells to finally realize that Lord Hosokawa held Perry White's dynamic spirit. Somehow he would have thought that Jonathan Kent's soul would once again be a parent for Lois. Interesting twists these journeys had shown him. Even with the Soul Tracker, Wells sometimes had difficulty following all that the two men were saying, but he gathered that Hosokawa was generally pleased with Kenji, even if still a bit skeptical about someone so young being qualified to properly teach his son. After an exchange of about twenty minutes, Lord Hosokawa turned to one of the nearby servants and gave a command. Wells and Kenji didn't have long to wait until both of the children of the house were brought before their father and formally presented to the guests. Young Lord Jimi, as Father Bernardo had predicted, was less than enthusiastic about meeting his new tutor, but being a well-brought up young man, he hid it well. [chrispat] After the introductions, Lady Junmi invited them all into a side room for a traditional Japanese tea ceremony. Wells was amused to notice the sidelong glances that Kenji and Junmi exchanged as they all settled on cushions around the low table. Lady Junmi served gracefully and, as was the custom, kept silent as the men exchanged small talk. Lord Hosokawa had been intrigued by the strange little man who had accompanied Kenji and proceeded to question him closely. He apparently knew quite a bit about the Europeans of this time, and Wells found himself having to think fast to avoid slipping up. He could definitely see Perry's reporter instincts in this incarnation. Junmi took advantage of her father's inattention and studied her brother's new tutor from behind her fan. He was taller than most of the men she had seen, and she admired his large, almond shaped eyes and long eyelashes, but it wasn't his appearance alone that attracted her. There was something familiar about him. Somehow she knew that he was a brave and honorable man, as well as kind and gentle. It was almost as if she had known him somewhere or somewhen else. She listened carefully as Lord Hosokawa turned his attention to Kenji. "So, Kenji-san, how is it that you became a tutor?" "I have always had a love of knowledge and the art of writing," he replied, casting a sidelong glance at Junmi. "Particularly poetry." Lord Hosogawa nodded, but made no comment. To Kenji's relief, Lord Hosokawa again turned his attention to Wells, and Kenji allowed his thoughts to turn to Junmi. Why did he feel so drawn to her? She was beautiful, but he had seen many beautiful women. He had seen her for the first time when she had been on one of her shopping expeditions in the city and had asked Father Bernardo about her. When he heard that her father was looking for a tutor for her younger brother, he had jumped at the chance to possibly get to know her better, even if he knew it was foolish for a man in his position. He knew he had nothing to offer her, but he hadn't been able to resist. He suddenly realized that his thoughts were going in circles and forced himself to pay attention to the conversation. He took one last look at Junmi and was startled when he caught her looking at him with a thoughtful expression. For a moment their eyes met and both blushed and lowered their lashes. Wells had been watching and had to hold back a chuckle. [Eraygun] After a few moments of silence in the room, young Lord Jimi turned to Wells. "My sister told me that the Tai was in the city yesterday. Did you see him?" he asked enthusiastically. Wells smiled. "I did catch a glimpse of him from a distance," he replied smoothly, casting a quick glance in Kenji's direction. "Quite a dashing rescue. But I would be interested in learning more about him. Who is he and where does he come from?" "You are asking questions we would all like the answer to," Lord Hosokawa interrupted. Junmi flushed slightly under her father's watchful gaze and offered Wells and Kenji more tea. "By your tone I would think you are somewhat disapproving of the Tai and his actions, my lord," Kenji said mildly. "No, not really Tanaka-sensei. But it is disturbing that he is masked like a bandit. If he is a man of honor, what is he hiding?" [Lansbury] "Lord Hosokawa, perhaps the Tai is not hiding from anyone but yet wants no one to know his identity. But, sir, that is just my most humble opinion." Lord Hosokawa looked at Kenji. "Perhaps you are right, young man. Only time will tell us who is hiding and who is not. Now tell me more of your background. I want only the best for my son, Jimi." Kenji looked at his cup as if he were weighing each word carefully. "My lord, I have studied..." At that moment a stifled moan came from Wells as he began to move at his place at the table. Wells was conscious of all eyes on him but try as he might another moan escaped him. "I am terribly sorry. I must move or permanently be bent in this unnatural position. Bad back, you know." Wells moved carefully so as not to jostle the low table before him, but despite his care he struck the table slightly, spilling tea as it shook. "Lord Hosokawa, I beg your pardon. I did not mean to cause a commotion at your table." Jimi looked at his father and again down at his own cup. He was fighting a smile. In the corner of the room a movement caught Well's eye. Junmi had slipped quietly away and now returned with fresh tea and a small cloth to clean the spills. Kenji watched as she very carefully cleaned the area and retreated back so the men could continue their conversations. "Weru-san, no damage was done. It takes training to sit properly during the whole tea ceremony. Now, I need to warn you, Tanaka-sensei. In the surrounding mountains are evil ronin, master-less samurai who have turned to banditry. They are causing many problems for our community at large. You are to keep my son occupied so he has no desire to investigate their identity or whereabouts." "Father, I am almost grown and do not need anyone to keep me occupied." Without listening to his son's words, Lord Hosokawa stared into the eyes of Kenji. "You have been warned." [Misha] * * * Within the ruins of crumbling stone and rotting wooden pillars, Eichi twitched irritably as the long blood-encrusted slash on his arm was cleaned and rebound. He watched his younger, unharmed twin with an ill-concealed sneer as Eiji told the half-dozen ronin gathered around him of their glorious dash through Nagasaki the day before. The quiet voice of the man binding his arm distracted Eichi for a moment. "I notice that Eiji-san neglects to mention your encounter with the Tai." Eichi glanced down at the bandage and flexed his arm. "No, Nobuo, he does not. He completely forgets how he ran like a rabbit while I faced the Tai alone," Eichi snarled. "Had I the least bit of help- a distraction, maybe- I could have beaten him." Nobuo nodded, rocking back on his heels. He doubted either of them could have beaten a master of the sword, as the Tai was reported to be, but in the interests of keeping his head attached to his shoulders, said nothing. "He also forgets that the mad dash he started did nothing but raise suspicion about us. We must at least have the appearance of nobility before we can operate with any efficiency in this province." Nobuo nodded again, but turned as his master was called. "Eichi!" Eiji had finished his tale, and the ronin trailed behind him as he approached his brother. Eichi banished all emotion from his face. He did not like his younger brother's casual address. "Yes? "I remembered something I saw in the market yesterday that might be helpful." "So that's where you left your courage." Continued in part 5 Robin C. Burgess rcburges@ix.netcom.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 18:08:39 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: Regarding "Taken" (LONG Answer) In-Reply-To: <35D271B7.4D01B771@gateway.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:55 AM 8/13/98 -0400, Sandy M. wrote: >[mega grande snip!] Right now I am in the midst of writing another story >which I hope won't disappoint. As I explained to Debby, it's >felliniesque -- whatever that means To me it means: a movie done on a grand scale (Ginger and Fried, Satirycon[sp?], etc), that manages somehow still to look at the tiny details of life. I used G&F in one of my stories, hoping to convince readers to try to find it and view it. It accomplishes several things at once: it makes fun of spectacle TV and the way TV warps the sense of nostalgia. At the same time, by exploring the lives of two people who meet again after decades, we can see the nostalgia they feel is true, deep and wonderful in the midst of the madness around them. The horrendous TV studio, meant to be a set on which the couple's lives will be made fun of (it's easy to imagine the home audience snickering) even helps in two ways: the power goes out, rescuing them from making fools of themselves so at last they can get some real talking done. Then, stronger, they are able to dance together like odl times and amaze everyone who sees them. So... Felini can (could?) be big and wild and crazy... but at the same tender and small and quite telling. I look forward to Sandy's next work! Debby Debby@swcp.com typing like mad... my computer goes in to the shop tomorrow (Friday) not to emerge for maybe a week! Yikes! Time to catch upon my reading, video watching and audiotape listening :) Also: Irene the elephant, treated cruelly by a traveling circus, rescued by the City of Albuquerque (my home town!), defended fiercely by all our citizens, is *staying* here at our zoo! Hooray! Now I hope we get to keep the llamas, too :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:47:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Regarding "Taken" (LONG Answer) In-Reply-To: <35D271B7.4D01B771@gateway.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:55 AM 8/13/1998 -0400, Sandy McDermin wrote: >Well. Hmmm. (Hope you're sitting down and have a glass of wine >handy.) For a long time, I wanted to write a mirror version of the Lois >and Clark story where Lois was the strange visitor from another planet >and "Clark" was the native at home in his own society. Although I >wasn't sure how different Lois would be, what really fascinated me was >how different Clark would be. He would be, I assumed, more comfortable >in his own skin, he would be privileged, he might even be less >thoughtful and considerate by virtue of not having had to walk in the >shoes of someone who was alienated from society on account of his >background. Listening to you describe what went into "Taken" now, does make many things clearer. Those things which aren't already clouded by the wine, that is. And I didn't mind the long answer at all, I think it befits the length of the story being discussed ;) IMHO, you did accomplish many of your goals with regards to the differing personalities of Lois & Clark having lead lives as separate from "our" Lois and Clark as was possible. Those explorations into alternate character were part of what so fascinated me with the storyline. I felt as though I were reading a novel about two different, intricate characters with many of the same quirks and idiosyncrasies, albeit mixed together somewhat differently, than the characters I already knew and loved. I suppose where I came into confusion is more apparent vis a vis your explanation now, when you said: >2) "Taken" had to respect the Lois and Clark universe as we knew it on >the show. That I never realized. :) I read "Taken" as an elsewhere exploration first and foremost, I had only just (somewhat unwillingly at first) disregarded the continuity of our own Lois & Clark and begun to relax into *your* version of an (as yet unexplored) Lois & Kal-El, that when the concept was suddenly (and mid-way through) 'taken' from us and replaced with true continuity, I was sitting there saying, "Aww man, that's no fair! Did Kal-El and Lois ever reunite? What happened to them? Did they finally fight things out together? HOW COULD SANDY DO THIS TO US!?" LOL ;) I respect your explanation, but really, you didn't have to hit reality on the head again so soon for *our* benefit Even if you'd just finished up the elseworld idea you'd begun, and *then* had Lois waking up. I could have smiled at that and seen the same kind of drawing together of universes, I imagine. Honestly, I really enjoyed "Taken", but I do wish it hadn't been a cliffhanger, indefinitely. Arrgh. I've never been good at those. My therapist says...oh, it's all very complicated, has to do with some boring childhood trauma.. Best All** Demi _______________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- You gotta dance like nobody's watching, and love like it's never gonna hurt. --- I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't looking good either. ________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:45:29 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel Madden Subject: Another New Fanfic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hey all- I'm not even sure this is the correct way to do this, but I have a fanfic I'd like to share.... I hope you enjoy it. It'll come along after I finish with this, which would be...right now. -Rachel M. :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 20:47:02 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rachel Madden Subject: The Fanfic you've been patiently waiting for.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Silly, short, and surprisingly enjoyable to write....hope you find it enjoyable too! ----------------------------------------------- The Return of the Morning Stubble by Rachel M. ------------------------------------------------ Lois awoke with a start with the feeling of a kneebone sticking into her lower back and an uncomfortable pricking feeling on her right cheek. She sighed with contempt for her partner. "Leave it to Kent to be a restless sleeper." She managed to get rid of the face with the pricking growth on it off of her own, but the leg wedged between her back and the body beside her would not budge a millimeter. She pushed and shoved at it, and even tried punching it once or twice, but she ended up with only bruised knuckles and a rising feeling of frustration. Clark, now awake because of the struggles going on beside him, was thoroughly enjoying the whole situation. To increase the temperature of Lois' already red-hot temper, he nonchalantly threw an arm around her. Lois was beginning to tell herself if she ever got out of this predicament, she would not be responsible for her actions. In the position she was situated in, she did not see the grin spread across her husband's face. She gave up, letting her feeble attempts at moving the chunk of steel behind her fade away to nothing. Just when she thought her temper had returned to the normal 98.6 degrees, she felt the piercing stubble slide across her cheek again. Her temper took a jump shot for 110.0. She seriously thought she could feel her blood boil. So she switched matters from the angelic side of her conscience to the devilish side of her conscience. Elbow in the nose. It was the only way. Now, a vulnerable man would surely be left with a broken nose, but not a Kryptonian man. But Lois noted with satisfaction that she did succeed in getting the knee to move. She reached down to feel for the hole bored in her back she knew that must be there. Even so, Kryptonian men do have their reflexes, so as he put a hand over his nose, to complete her revenge, Lois gave him a knee where it counts...well, on most men. As Clark laid there gasping for breath, Lois reached over to run a hand over the morning stubble she knew to be there. Clark grabbed the arm that had almost found its goal and got *his* revenge the only way he knew to affect Lois....let's just say it's a good thing that it was their day-off.... THE END :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:11:12 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Maggie Subject: Re: IRC Tutorial/Writer's Showcase MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BDC707.480C3520" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BDC707.480C3520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Annie :) I would like to sign up for the tutorial please. Hmmmm, authors I'd like to see on your lovely page, Chris Mulder Jennifer Eagan Zoomway Jeff Brogden Sheila Harper and those are right off the top of my head!! Anyone you interview will be awesome, and I'm kind of easy to please. If its someone whose work I haven't read yet, I get to look forward to reading it (like Crystal :) and if its someone I know, I get to know them better! Ahhh, the life of a FoLC is sweet. Good Night. M. maggie13@bellsouth.net (aka supermag1 on IRC) Lois (rolls her head and smiles) "What am I going to do with you?" Clark (smugly) "You're going to love me for the rest of my life." Pam Jernigan, "Crazy For You" ------=_NextPart_000_01BDC707.480C3520 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Annie :)

I would like = to sign up for the tutorial please.

Hmmmm, authors I'd like to = see on your lovely page,

Chris Mulder
Jennifer = Eagan
Zoomway
Jeff Brogden
Sheila Harper

and those are = right off the top of my head!!  Anyone you interview will be = awesome, and I'm kind of easy to please.  If its someone whose work = I haven't read yet, I get to look forward to reading it (like Crystal :) = and if its someone I know, I get to know them better!  Ahhh, the = life of a FoLC is sweet.  

Good = Night.

M.



maggie13@bellsouth.net =  (aka supermag1 on IRC)
Lois (rolls her head and smiles) = "What am I going to do with you?"
Clark (smugly) = "You're going to love me for the rest of my life."
Pam = Jernigan, "Crazy For You"  

------=_NextPart_000_01BDC707.480C3520-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:22:52 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Maggie Subject: Sorry Everyone MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BDC708.E9A03B60" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BDC708.E9A03B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As you can see I have committed Newbie Sin. I have posted a private message to the list. I apologize to everyone. I promise I will be super extra careful in the future!!! Please forgive! Maggie maggie13@bellsouth.net (aka supermag1 on IRC) Lois (rolls her head and smiles) "What am I going to do with you?" Clark (smugly) "You're going to love me for the rest of my life." Pam Jernigan, "Crazy For You" ------=_NextPart_000_01BDC708.E9A03B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

As you can see I have committed = Newbie Sin. I have posted a private message to the list. I apologize to = everyone. I promise I will be super extra careful in the = future!!!

Please forgive!

Maggie




maggie13@bellsouth.net =  (aka supermag1 on IRC)
Lois (rolls her head and smiles) = "What am I going to do with you?"
Clark (smugly) = "You're going to love me for the rest of my life."
Pam = Jernigan, "Crazy For You"  

------=_NextPart_000_01BDC708.E9A03B60-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:36:30 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lansbury 1 Subject: Re: IRC Tutorial/Writer's Showcase Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Maggie, Could you send me the email addresses for the writers you recommended. I have Chris Mulders, Zoomway and Shelia Harper but not the rest. Annie ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 23:05:35 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Check your settings, FOLCs, please... Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just a short procedural note here... I've noticed, lately, that some messages to the list are sent twice, once= as plain text, and once in gibberish (presumably html). I know that Netscape Communicator 4 defaults to html messages, but can we *please* tu= rn that option off, at least for messages to this list? I believe that plai= n text is still what the majority of e-mail users use... if I'm wrong, tell= me, I'll shut up & keep deleting the garbage. (In Netscape, which I have= but don't use for this address, you can check your settings under Edit|Preferences|Mail&Groups|Messages...; I don't know where to loo= k in Explorer) PJ who is not the list mom and now here's my personal line of NavFont garbage, I'd get rid of it if I could :-/ !^NavFont02F02600007MGHHI626FBF E-mail from: Pam Jernigan jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/jernigan/folc.html Find all the IRC roundrobin fanfic -- Featuring recommended fanfics ~~~~~ "That would be me. Superman's girlfriend, Clark Kent's wife, Kal-El's concubine. Former girlscout, present reporter, future mental patient. Time traveller, dimension hopper, soul migrator..." Lois reflects on her life, in _Always Something There to Remind Me_ by Zoomway Distribution: Ficlist INTERNET:LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:11:37 -1000 Reply-To: shore@maui.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: No, I am not flaming this time (was Re: So long, farewell, or MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > < Am I the only one who sees this as a horrible event? Losing a > list > member (especially one as active and helpful as Leanne) over an > argument > such as this is horrible. Can we not find a way to stop this>> Well, I wasn't going to get involved in this one, but since you put it this way I just thought I would let you know that no, you are not the only one who feels this way. It is horrible and sad but these things happen because no one is perfect. When a person gets their feelings hurt sometimes things are said when our emotions get the best of us, and sometimes it can get out of hand. It happens every day. Although we FoLC's are such a "Darn Nice" bunch of people things like this are still bound to happen. I just hope that each one involved can recuperate from what happened and not be too embarrassed by it so that they can continue sharing on this list their wonderful talents and thoughts with all who adore L&C. And it would just be "SUPER" is everyone could just forget it this silly little thing ever happened! Easier said than done, I know, but it was worth a try!:o) Leanne, if your still there, I don't know you personally, but I'm sorry to see you go. I really hope you will reconsider. jamee... > > > Please forgive me for putting my two cents in but I have to say this. > Yes > this is a horrible event. > > I have been reading both sides of this since the beginning and wanting > to say, > please please forgive one another. Remember people are human and > sometimes > they say things that they may regret later. Don't hold the grudge. > Actors say > and do things they may regret - witness William Shatner's off the wall > > statement to Star Trek fans 'to get a life" and which followed and no > doubt > haunted him for years. Everyone needs to be allowed to make mistakes > in their > dealings with others. > > And in my own life, my late husband had a friend of 20+ years. > Something > happened between them about 5 years ago and they stopped talking to > one > another. Neither I nor my son Benjamin know what it was. > > Alas my husband died a year later of chronic cancer. I remembered the > friend > and sent him a letter asking him to forget what the argument was about > and > come to the funeral. He never came or responded. So I will never know > what > went wrong. > > Please can someone try to get these two to forget their differences? > > Charlotte who is sitting here crying four years later. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:29:27 -1000 Reply-To: shore@maui.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jamee Jones Subject: Re: New Fanfic Alert : THE TAI: "A SOULMATES CHRONICLE" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering, should one read the other "Soulmates Chronicles" before reading this new round robin Soulmates Chronicle story? I have been meaning to do so, but haven't yet because I tend to keep reading all the fics that I get emailed first, and since those just keep comming, I haven't even been to the archives to get a story yet! jamee Eileen F. Ray wrote: > Hi everyone , > > The IRC round robin writers have been at it again and I have the > pleasure of > posting our latest offering, "The Tai" another of the SoulMates > Chronicles, > set in feudal Japan. > > This story 's production history is a little different from our usual > IRC > round robin ;). After writing the three previous SoulMates stories we > decided > that additional preplanning would be helpful if we were going to write > a > credible story. As a result we had several online brainstorming > sessions and > produced a 2 page story outline that served as our roadmap. > Then, after a marathon story writing session we felt that there > were > additional things that we wanted to add, so existing scenes were > expanded and > new scenes were written to supplement the core story that was created > online. > I guess you could call this a "groupfic" rather than a round robin, > ;). But > whatever it's called, the end result is a story of action, romance and > humor, > and we think we've managed to capture a little of the spirit that made > the > show so much fun. > > We hope you enjoy it. As usual, feedback will be appreciated. > Special thanks > must go to Georgia Walden for coordinating the process and editing > this epic > ;). > > Cheers, > > Eileen > Eraygun@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 06:47:17 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: L&C Fanfic Session August 15, 1998 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi everyone :), After a week off L&C Fanfic is back in business and we hope you'll be able to join us this coming Saturday for our fanfic writing session. This week's story premise, is an inbetweenie set in the 4th season right after "Brutal Youth" but before "The People vs. Lois Lane". Lois and Clark have found *their place* but now they have to move *their stuff* into it, in addition to jumping through all the other hoops necessary to turn their new house into a real home. It should be fun seeing what happens as they pack, and pack and repack, not to mention clashing over the decor and heaven knows what else. ( For example, exactly what did happen to that statue from Borne ;)?) And just because we like to make things interesting this week's story is another of our challenge formats. So be sure to send your list of items or events you want to be dealt with during the story to our esteemed editor Georgia at: gwalde14@ mindspring.com. We would still like to hear from you if you have any story premises of yourown that you would like us to explore together. You can either email them to me at: eraygun@aol.com or better still, just bring your ideas with you when you join us for writing (or just reading along) next Saturday or for our weekly "story bouncing" sessions on Tuesdays on #L&CFicOrg, starting around 9.30 pm EDT.. We meet Saturdays starting at 3 pm EDT and try to get into writing fairly soon thereafter. You can come and join the fun at any time, however. We are usually there for several hours since writing a story just takes time. Since #L&CFanfic is sometimes "invite only" , please message if you want to join us. If an official "inviter" is designated, we will let you know. Some of us should be hanging out on #Loiscla. A note on procedure here ;) : When people need to be caught up on the story in progress after being bounced off IRC or just joining the session late, please try and avaid pasting the story directly into the channel window. Please do that in a private message or dcc-chat window instead. Hope to see you all there! Eileen Eraygun@aol.com Eraygun on the IRC ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 07:56:31 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Annette Ciotola Subject: Re: RE Writers Showcase Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-08-13 19:39:44 EDT, you write: << well, if i was sent a writers showcase form (yeah like that's really likely) i would use my wonder woman photo from my website. >> Annie had sent out the form to the regular writers in #L&Cfanfic for this first time around. Please be assured we will get to everyone. There is a long list of wonderful writers, but it does take time to get to everyone. What you can do, if you would like to be featured, is copy the questions from the web site (or maybe we can post the questions themselves to the fanfic list) and you can send in your profile to: Lansbury1@aol.com. A decision has not been made yet as far as posting the showcase to the list. Annie is listening to all your suggestions. I am sure we will be able to accomadate most requests. I would also like to add that I, for one, think she has come up with a really great idea and I am very happy that I am able to be a part of it. Thanks Anne :) www.simplyorganized.simplenet.com/showcase.html www.simplyorganized.simplenet.com/annesplace.htm www.simplyorganized.simplenet.com/jmack.htm <---- Home of the Bedtime Vignettes by Julie Mack ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:53:05 EDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Lansbury 1 Subject: Writer's Showcase Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello, First, I have decided to keep my website the way it is and not to include pictures of the writers. I have had some writers to tell me they would not furnish me pictures after seeing the discussion of the fanfic listserv. So, please rest assured, no time will pictures be necessary to participate in the Writer's Showcase. Second, anyone can recommend a writer to be included in the Writer's Showcase. >From the very beginning, I have asked for and gotten wonderful feedback from many of you and have sent out additional surveys. I am thrilled at the number of returns I have received. I want to the honor and respect each author and make the experience of being 'Featured Writer' a moment of pride in we their readers can have a one-on-one connection with them. Third, please do not copy the questions off my website. Let me know who you would like and I will send a survey to that person. Each survey may contain additional or slightly different questions. In this way I will have a record of the writers who have gotten a survey. Finally, thank you for all the positive feedback and I promise will try and get to as many of you as I can over the weeks ahead. I truly enjoy reading the surveys as much as I know you all do. If you have any more questions or recommendations, as always, feel free to write to me. Annie Lansbury ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:52:56 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sandra McDermin Subject: The Mood & Tone of a Story and How It Makes You Feel Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="0__=srTvxzwNYPhUt1XARCtjyuslHJwbW8Vm4SjJW4lu0quFlMPuXaICbSYv" --0__=srTvxzwNYPhUt1XARCtjyuslHJwbW8Vm4SjJW4lu0quFlMPuXaICbSYv Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline At 12:55 AM 8/13/98 -0400, Sandy M. wrote: >[mega grande snip!] Right now I am in the midst of writing another story which I hope won't disappoint. As I explained to Debby, it's felliniesque -- whatever that means< Debby said: >>To me it means: a movie done on a grand scale (Ginger and Fried, Satirycon[sp?], etc), that manages somehow still to look at the tiny details of life.<< Well, Debby, I'm beginning to think it's all very individualistic. I had a recent exchange with my friend, Ron. Here's what was said: Me: >>The term, "felliniesque', what does it actually mean? I've asked a couple of people and we haven't quite decided -- 100%. I tried looking it up in an on-line dictionary and got the following entry which doesn't say much: Main Entry: Fel --0__=srTvxzwNYPhUt1XARCtjyuslHJwbW8Vm4SjJW4lu0quFlMPuXaICbSYv Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =B7li=B7ni Pronunciation: f&-'lE-nE Federico 1920-1993 Italian film director; made highly individual films = from his own scripts, including La strada (1954), Amarcord (1973), La dolce = vita (1960), etc. - Fel=B7li=B7ni=B7esque /f&-"lE-nE-'esk/ adjective Anyway, felliniesque, I assume, means: Fellini-like. But, what does t= hat mean? Does it mean "like highly individual films made from one's own scripts"? I don't think so. I thought it referred more to the content= of his films which are very impressionistic -- somewhat unstructured, colorful, a hodgepodge, dream-like (Janice offered this). I don't know= . I'm not a Fellini fan, but I've always been curious about the term. In= so many cases that I've come across it in reading reviews of films, it see= med to be just used without any explanation -- as if we all knew exactly wh= at was being described. I don't, or at least, I'm not sure.<< Ron answered: >>"Felliniesque" has become like "Kafkaesque": people use it without e= ver having read/seen the originals. I think it refers to a situation or experience you find yourself in whe= re you are surrounded by oddball, outlandishly-dressed characters (think o= f either the suave, sunglass-wearing Italian glitterati in "La Dolce Vita= ", or the clownish and surreal women that populate his color films: "Amarcord", "Juliette of the Spirits") and *nothing makes sense*! It refers to an absurd situation in general. Like you have just entered another world (or a Fellini movie) for a brief period.<< Whatever the term really refers to -- if it refers to all that is discu= ssed above -- then I think the L&C fic I'm currently working on does have a= bit of this flavor. If films are not your cup of tea, then perhaps another= way of describing how I feel about the story is that it makes me think of a= Chagall painting or has the spirit of a Joni Mitchell song or ... I'm completely nuts. >>Debby Debby@swcp.com typing like mad...<< Yes! You are! You are! >>Also: Irene the elephant, treated cruelly by a traveling circus, resc= ued by the City of Albuquerque (my home town!), defended fiercely by all ou= r citizens, is *staying* here at our zoo! Hooray! Now I hope we get to ke= ep the llamas, too :)<< Debby, I think we just both entered the Twilight Zone. Here comes Rod Serling now.... "Please do not adjust your monitors...." (By the way, may I borrow those llamas for my story?) Sandy salymc@gateway.net http://www.erols.com/nightsky/Sandy/ = --0__=srTvxzwNYPhUt1XARCtjyuslHJwbW8Vm4SjJW4lu0quFlMPuXaICbSYv-- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:27:51 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LLOYD RALSTON Subject: A Revelation and the Bullet (p 3 of 7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Lois could make sense of that, but Clark wasn't the only one who had had a hard time. She had, too, and she said so, "This isn't only hard on you, Clark. It's hard on me, too! How would you like to have been left in the dark about something so immensely important that concerned your partner and boyfriend? Especially for so long? How can you be so...so...self-centered?!" she waved at him in a gesture of incrimination. Lois was surprised how near tears she was, but she wouldn't dare let him see that. Clark rested his head on his arm and leaned against a decorative column as if he need its support to give him the strength to stand, to go on. This argument was going nowhere and he was just about ready to throw in the towel for the time being. He lifted his head slightly and stared harshly at Lois with his angry brown eyes, eyes that used to hold only love for her but now mirrored his exasperation with the situation. "You, Lois...you're just so *impossible*!!" Clark yelled, gesturing at her with his hands. "In fact, maybe this whole thing--our relationship, even a future relationship, everything, is just that--impossible." Though his voice was definitive, it was also filled with dejection, hurt and resignation as he spoke to her and his words hit the very core of her being, hurting her very deeply. He's given up on us, she thought, how can he give up on us so easily?! We can work through this, I want to work through this, she cried to herself desperately. I know we can, Clark, just -- don't -- give -- up! She wanted to say it, actually scream it, she was in a screaming mood right now, but the words caught in her throat as tears once again threatened to spill. Fortunately, a sheepish "ahem" from the direction of Clark's room saved her from trying to respond. They both turned in the direction of the sound of someone clearing their throat and their eyes widened in surprise at who was there. "M-mom?! Dad?! What are you doing here?" Clark stuttered when he realized they had probably heard the whole conversation. "Uhm, Clark, you, uh, told us you were planning on telling Lois....so we figured we'd stay around to help....to provide support...to...." Martha stopped speaking, at a loss for words because of the way Clark had been talking to Lois. He never yelled and rarely raised his voice---especially at Lois---so Martha was so astounded she couldn't think of anything else to say. Martha knew without a doubt that something was definitely wrong with this situation. She'd always figured it would be Lois yelling at Clark and Clark trying to placate her and work things out--not Clark apparently giving up on every thing so easily. This just wasn't like him. She was determined to get to the bottom of things someway, somehow. She didn't like her son acting this way, not one bit. And he wouldn't act this way unless something was very, very wrong, she though. "So...I guess he told you," Jonathan Kent said, the tone of his voice making it more a statement of fact than a question. "Told me?! TOLD ME!!" Lois blew up, unintentionally and momentarily making the other Kents the source of her wrath. She felt guilty when she saw them wince at her outburst, but she continued on nevertheless, "He didn't tell me, *I* had to figure it out on my *own*! Instead, *your son* proposed to me! Can you believe it?" "Actually---" Martha started, staring hard at her son, she could tell he had made an awful mess of things. She doubted he had done it intentionally, but she was always telling him to think things out carefully before saying anything to Lois. But Lois interrupted, turning away from Mrs. Kent and settling her gaze and attention back on the real source of her fury. "When *were* you going to tell me, Clark? On our honeymoon? When our kids started flying around the house, melting things with their heat-vision-gizmo? I'd really like to know!" "No, Lois," he started, his voice low and softer than it had been all evening as he tried to get a handle on his warring emotions so that he could make her see the truth and maybe forgive him or at least understand him. "Once I learned that you wanted me, Clark--not Superman, not his powers--I would have told you everything!" His brown eyes implored Lois to believe him. He had only wanted to shoot down his fear first, the fear that she'd only truly wanted him because he was indeed the person she had been infatuated with since the beginning---Superman. He wanted her to love him for the ordinary man, not the "god in tights," as some called him. For that was who he truly was, not Superman, but Clark. Albeit a very strong, super-power endowed Clark, but Clark nevertheless. "Guess we'll never know, will we?" Lois drawled dangerously while crossing her arms and fixing him with a spiteful glare. She was outraged that Clark would think her so fickle as to only want him because of his muscle-clad, world-saving alter-ego. She had believed that Clark thought more highly of her than that! Maybe she was wrong. Unless he could show some trust in her, she didn't think this relationship could progress to what she had dreamed it could become. Clark stared at her uncompassionately, coldly and responded to her in an equally bitter and contemptuous tone. "Guess not, if you won't believe me when I'm telling you the truth." "But that's just it! How can I tell when you are telling me the truth anymore, Clark? How can I ever believe or trust you again after this deception--this secret you kept from me for two years?" It still rankled--for two years he had kept her in the dark, and she hated being kept in the dark about anything. And she realized that between the two, Superman and Clark, she had shared many secrets, more than he should have known, would have know, otherwise. And that really angered her. He had probably laughed at her early in their relationship, getting a kick out of how stupid she must have seemed saying some of the embarrassing things she had shared with one or the other of them. Oh, God, it makes me angry! Lois thought as the desire to kick something grew. His next words interrupted her flow of thoughts in that direction, though, bringing them to a complete halt. "That's something you'll have to find out on your own, Lois," he said in a regret-filled voice, "because if you can't trust me, we can't build a relationship. Because a relationship is built on understanding, on truthfulness, on honesty with each other....that's why I wanted to tell you, so we could finally move on...." That seems impossible now, he thought. I made such a mess of things, and she didn't help much either. At that moment she realized Clark had bared his soul to her with all he had said tonight. He had been speaking from his heart and letting her in on a secret that he had carried alone for most of his life, a secret he had only shared previously with his parents. He wanted her in his life, to know the real him--a precious gift given to so few. He'd been able to be himself, speak and act freely with only them before and now he wished to do the same with her--if they could work this out. Clark had said some things he never thought he'd have the chance to say to her. He'd told her that he loved her and wanted her in his life. And now that he'd opened up so much, he was very, very vulnerable, no matter how he tried to hide it. He had never opened up so much to someone before. But I love her, can't she see that!? That's all that is important, if she could just see that this was done to protect her---then he realized it was probably just as much to protect himself from hurt as it had been to protect her. That was why he had put it off for so long, dreading her reaction. It had always seemed too soon to tell her before and now it appeared it was too late. When was it just right? Was there ever a right time to tell her? Maybe it's best that she found out on her own. Lois was stunned and touched at his words and didn't know how to respond. For the second time in the same night, she was speechless--a state she rarely found herself in--and definitely wasn't used to. She felt so confused. Just why didn't you tell me before, Clark?! You talk of trust, but you don't seem to have much trust in me--but maybe I didn't show how much I loved you, how much I *did* trust you. But it was so hard with you running out during the middle of every conversation. What was I to think? Then her rampaging thoughts progressed to another, more important issue. I want to move on with you too, Clark, but....ughh! I can't even sort out my thoughts enough to say something to you....it's just hopeless, Lois thought. Completely and utterly hopeless. "Things are just so complicated," she finally said, rather weakly, "more so than ever before...it's going to take some time....to adjust...." Just give me some time to sort through my feelings, Clark, I do want to be with you, she thought. In spite of this secret you held from me, I still want to be with you, to love you and to be loved back. They stood there staring at each other, both at a loss for words again as their thoughts continued on and on, never seeming to end. Martha knew that neither of them would be able to say anymore tonight. Both Clark and Lois were floundering, trying to say something to explain, to convey what they were feeling, but they just couldn't put it into words--at least not yet, anyway. Lois is right, Martha thought, it'll take some time. It's probably best if I start it now, before the situation gets any more complicated. They have both already forgotten we are even here. That isn't a very good sign. "Lois," Martha started, and then continued once she had Lois's attention, "maybe I should take you home now. Our rental's out front." When Lois didn't budge or even turn her eyes or focus away from Clark, Martha gently took her by the arm and guided her out the door, "C'mon." * * * * * * Once in the car, Lois finally broke down. "Martha, I'm so confused, I don't know what to do," she wailed. "I desperately want to trust him again, very much so, but I'm so afraid of being hurt like before...but I know he'd never hurt me intentionally, right? And I don't want to lose him either. He was so mad at me in there, I've never seen him like that before. I was almost scared of him at times! I never thought I'd be scared of Clark! He's always so kind, and considerate...have I lost him? Oh, why didn't he tell me earlier?---" Lois was desperate for a shoulder to cry on, for someone she could confide in and get reassurances from--and Martha was the most likely candidate for this job. And since she wanted the two to get together almost as badly as they themselves did, she volunteered herself for the job without another thought about it. Gosh, Martha thought, she really does babble on when she's nervous and worked up; Clark wasn't kidding! "Lois, Lo-is!" she finally got the younger woman's attention. "You're right to be confused...I know I would be in your case, but you need to sort out your feelings---away from Clark---that's why I volunteered to take you home. No, Clark would never intentionally hurt you, Lois. He loves you too much to do so, and he'd hate himself if he ever did. In fact, that's one of the reasons why he waited so long to tell you...he was afraid of your reaction, of hurting you. I don't think you've lost him. He just needs time alone, too. Clark loves you and I know you love him, too, or you two wouldn't be putting each other through this. You'd just throw in the towel when it began to get bad if you didn't care about each other so deeply..." Martha paused for a breath as she pulled the car up to a stop sign. She turned slightly towards Lois as she continued, "And...and I have to admit, I've never seen him act like that before either. Yelling at you, at anyone, is something he usually doesn't do, so something must be wrong with Clark. Hopefully, he'll talk to Jonathan about it, but he isn't a very open person when it comes to complications and problems. He doesn't want to show he's as vulnerable as the rest of us when it comes to situations like this." She sighed as she finally got that all out. Now, to move on to the underlying problem at hand. "Has anything, ah, unusual happened to him recently? Kryptonite maybe? I don't think it'd be stress....but...." "I don't know, there's nothing I can think of...." Lois said, her mind whirling through all that had happened to them in the last day or so. She knew the last few days must have been very stressful, even for Clark, what with Mazyk threatening to tell his secret to the world and kidnapping his parents, and then the thought of losing her on top of all that. Maybe it was too much, maybe he finally cracked?---nah, not Clark, not in a million of years, she thought. And that brought up another issue---his lifespan. Was he immortal? Would he age the same as an Earthling? Would she be an old grandma before he reached the *mid-life crisis* stage? Lois reprimanded herself for that train of thought. Don't think about that. Think about more pressing things, more important things right now. Save those for another time--like when you know you still have a relationship with Clark. "Well, when did you notice this, uh, drastic change in demeanor?" Martha asked. Just get the facts, she thought, and with Lois's help, maybe we can get to the bottom of this. Clark definitely won't be much help in this situation, not with the way he's acting! He'll probably just get even more mad at us for prying. "Oh, well, he was asking me questions, like how and when I found out, and how mad I was but he was the same ol' Clark, though he acted like he was in the doghouse. Well, that was to be expected. That's normal...." Then she continued with a quaver to her voice, "...but he wasn't so....hateful of me at first." Does he hate me for finding out the way I did instead of him telling me? Is he mad because I went against his wishes and followed him? She was silent for a moment and then voiced her concern, "Does he despise me?" Martha chuckled a bit as she patted Lois's arm reassuringly. "Despise you? Oh dear me, no, it's more likely that he worships the ground you walk on. Seriously, though, he does love you, Lois, with all his heart." That's why I have to make sure these two work this out and get together, back into each others arms, she thought. I'm not going to let this drive them apart when they belong together! "Well, I love him too. In fact, I can't even imagine living without him in my life anymore...." In fact, she didn't want to think about that at all! She had to continue, so she did, "...but why is he being like this? He's sending some very mixed signals to an already overwhelmed girlfriend." "Maybe you should continue your account of what happened," Martha suggested helpfully. Hopefully it will help us get to the bottom of things. continued in part 4 of 7 Sorry i haven't been posting a bit lately. I'll do better now, I hope ;-) --cc-- Lloyd Ralston Preferred Company lloydr@ldd.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:35:13 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LLOYD RALSTON Subject: A Revelation and the Bullet (p4 of 7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Oh, okay, let's see...oh, yeah, we were walking down the street discussing his revelation, er, actually my revelation of him, and then he heard a call for help. Nothing out of the ordinary, a mugging he had to stop. I followed him and he saw me and accidentally got shot---but bullets don't hurt him do they? No, of course not, that's silly. I'm talking about Mister Invulnerability here, duh! Where was I?...oh yeah, he apprehended the guy and then flew off with me to an alley. I noticed he was gripping me too hard and when I told him so and he sort of exploded at me! Was it because of me? Am I the cause of all his worries?" Lois allowed herself to get sidetracked again. Digressing was a sign that she had way too many things going on in her mind. So many that it was starting to give her a headache trying to sort them out. She lightly rubbed her temples as her troubling thoughts continued. Why would he get so mad at me? I know he's concerned about my safety and well-being, but would that make him just... kinda...snap? Do I cause him to be this way? "No, no, dear, you're not the cause of his worries nor are you the reason Clark yelled at you. It wasn't your fault, not your fault at all!" Martha spoke with conviction, and once Lois seemed reassured she continued, "Anyway, Lois, you were right, nothin' out of the ordinary *seemed* to have happened to Clark, but *something* must have taken place to tick him off like that....it just isn't *normal* for Clark...." Something was nagging at her mind--something that should have been painfully obvious but she couldn't see it. She sighed in frustration, hoping Jonathan would have better luck figuring it. Good luck at that, she thought. * * * * * * Back at Clark's apartment, Jonathan wasn't having any better luck figuring things out with his adopted son. Now, instead of being mad at Lois, Clark was furious with himself for letting his emotions get the best of him and was majorly beating himself up over it. Jonathan had mentioned it to him, but Clark snapped at him and then immediately hated himself even more for treating his dad that way. Now his rage and fury were starting to get really out of control and Jonathan was afraid that he'd start acting irrationally at any moment. Finally Clark changed into the suit and flew off to find someplace where he could literally cool down without hurting anyone in the process, leaving a very concerned and worried father behind. Clark sat in the snow and ice in the Antarctica debating with himself until he was so tired he couldn't think anymore. Which was actually a rather good thing, for his thoughts really weren't helping. They were just making everything worse. Then he flew home and went straight to bed, completely ignoring his concerned parents who had been waiting up for him. He needed some sleep and a clear head to deal with Lois at the Planet tomorrow. Martha and Jonathan exchanged worried glances but decided to let him be. * * * * * * "Cicely, are you going to tell me why you are so mad at Superman?" Cyrus asked. "You said he hurt you, but in the week I've known you, you've never actually elaborated on that. Can you tell me why?" He desperately wanted to know why they were trying to get even with Superman. I deserve to know, he thought, since I'm helping her on this. I'm tired of being in the dark. I've been in the dark way, way too long now. "No, Cyrus, I can't. It's too painful...besides all you need to know is that he hurt me deeply," she replied sharply. Then, after seeing the look on his face, she attempted to pacify him. He was right, they had only met a week ago and they had a lot to catch up on. "We shouldn't dwell on that now, like you said, we haven't had much time to catch up on what we were missing. We can talk now while I get the next bullet ready, okay?" Despite how testy she was acting with her brother, she loved him as a sibling loves another sibling. She didn't want him to know too much, it would just hurt him. And she wanted to shield him--and herself--from the painful memories. He agreed and they talked late into the night, even though most of her attention was on the most important task--preparing the bullet and trying to get the new gun ready. The remaining gun wasn't as good quality as the first one, but since Superman had destroyed the first one in their foiled attempt on his life, it would have to do. Tomorrow, Cicely thought, grinning evilly, I'll pull it off tomorrow, and finally my heart and mind will be at ease--definitely at ease, because my *problem* will be dead by my hand. * * * * * * Clark was definitely feeling better in the morning. Though he didn't feel 100% yet, he was rapidly getting there. But he was afraid that Lois would bring out the worse in him again. I wonder if I should just call in sick today, to avoid seeing her. I'd hate to start acting the way I was last night at work. No, running away doesn't solve anything, he reluctantly concluded. I'll just control myself better! I just will have to! Besides, it's a chance I'll have to take. I have to patch up our relationship and apologize before it's too late and I actually lose her. He didn't even want to think about losing her and how profoundly that would affect his life. "Feeling better, son?" Jonathan asked, trying not to pry too much. Better tread lightly on this issue, he thought, who knows how he'll react. But he seems better today... "Yeah, Dad, I don't know what got into me last night....I just don't know why I---" his brow furled slightly in confusion. Why exactly did I act like that? What got into me? "Lost your temper? Yelled at Lois? Made things a lot worse for yourself than you thought possible?---" Martha supplied. And that's just to say the least! "Yeah, thanks, Mom, for reminding me," he groaned, sarcastically. He wasn't truly mad at them, he was just frustrated with himself and the way he had acted. "Why didn't you try to stop me, Mom, Dad, when I got so out of control?" "It would be like trying to stop a runaway freight train, Clark," Jon chuckled good-humoredly, sensing it was safe to be more normal around Clark. "Lucky for all of us, you rarely get in that mood--you usually keep a good handle on your temper. And believe me, several times last night I wanted to take you over my knee--and, well, spank some sense into you." Clark laughed, the image stuck in his mind, "Yeah, I have to admit, it'd be funny seeing you try, Dad. And Lois, she woulda got a kick out of that." A major kick, he thought, and I'd never have been able to live it down. Martha and Jonathan were glad to hear Clark genuinely laugh. He really was acting normal again, returning to the old Clark they knew and loved. Maybe it was just the stress. Maybe whatever had come over their son was gone for good and wouldn't ever return. They hated seeing him act that way. And though they hated to admit it, it did frighten them as well. Clark had just sat down for a cup of coffee and some donuts that Jonathan had picked up earlier, when he heard a knock on the door. He sighed and turned to stare at the door, using his X-ray vision to see through it. "It's Lois," he stated laconically, although he was just as surprised and shocked as his parents were. Clark had figured he'd have to beg Lois to even look at him, let alone actually talk to him after what had happened the day before. He wondered why she was standing on his doorstep as he got up and opened the door. Better not make her wait any longer than necessary, he thought. Who knows what kind of mood she's in. Lois stomped in and Clark could tell just by looking at her that she hadn't had a cup of coffee yet. He knew she needed a caffeine fix to get on with a normal day, and since today and last night were far from normal, she probably needed one even more. Much to Lois' immense relief, Clark offered her a cup of coffee before he spoke to her. "Thanks," she said, and took a long sip from it before she continued, "I really needed that." "I know, I could tell," Clark smiled at her, poking fun in an attempt to lighten the mood. She returned his grin cautiously. He seems like he's in a better mood, maybe he is....I hope he is or it will be very hard to get through the day. "It's so enlightening to find out that you know me so well," she said, somewhat rudely but Clark could tell by her body language that she was returning his light jesting in kind. Something that was a good sign to all three Kents. Martha and Jon quickly made an excuse and left the two alone in the kitchen. And Clark decided to get down to business. "Uh, Lois, I-I didn't expect to see you coming by here...so soon." In fact I didn't think I'd see you here at all, he thought. Especially not anytime soon. "Well, I had to come over eventually. How long did you think I'd avoid coming by here to talk to you?" she replied watching him lean back against the counter. His body language didn't seem so distant today, it was more open. That's a good sign, I think, she thought to herself. Though this has to feel strange for him, me knowing and all. "A decade, at least," he said, half-jesting, half-serious. In reality, he had figured she'd let him wallow in his own guilt for, oh, at least a week before she even attempted to patch anything up between them. "So that's why you came by--to talk?" he added hopefully. Ohh, I definitely want to talk, to patch things up. "That, and to return these," she said, extracting something from her pocket. She was handing him back his glasses. She was pleased when he just put them in his breast pocket instead of putting them on, though she didn't know exactly why. Maybe it's because he's not trying to hide. He's trying to just be himself around me, letting me in finally to see him for who he truly is. "I figured you'd need them for work. We were so preoccupied with other things that I forgot I still had them. Actually, if Elroy hadn't decide to investigate them this morning, I would probably have forgotten to return them." Elroy was Lois' cat. A young, gray male tabby who was very curious about everything. All men had to pass Elroy's inspection before being allowed into her apartment. Interestingly, Clark passed with flying colors. In fact, she was very surprised because Clark and Elroy had hit it off so well; but Clark had explained that he had always liked animals and that, when you grew up on a farm, you really had to like animals. "Leave it to Elroy to find out the littlest thing that is new or different in your home. I'd swear he was a bloodhound in a previous life," he said, his smile reaching his chocolate brown eyes this time. Seeing that smile reflected in his eyes secretly pleased Lois. And once again, Clark was glad when Lois returned his smile without thinking. Things weren't going as bad as he'd figured they would. It was obvious that they both wanted to make amends for last night; that both had said some things they wished they hadn't said or had at least worded differently. Yes, we are making progress, he thought. Maybe things aren't so bad after all... "Why don't we talk over breakfast---I see you have donuts. And I don't have to have X-ray vision to see that." She guided him over to the table, not wanting to eat alone. "C'mon, let's eat, I'm starving!" * * * * * * The last donut had disappeared quite some time ago and Lois and Clark had just finished their umpteenth cup of coffee, when Clark's parents finally decided to return. Martha and Jonathan were relieved that the apartment was still intact. They had been fearing the outbreak of WW III if Lois and Clark weren't careful about how they expressed themselves. But they seemed to be at ease with each other, at least as much as the situation warranted. They still appeared a bit cautious and guarded around each other, but that was to be expected after the shock Lois had received yesterday in learning that the two men in her life were the same person. I know I would be acting similarly in her shoes, thought Jonathan. She seems to be handling it quite well, though. Always knew she was the one for my boy. "I hate to intrude, but have you guys worked everything out?" Martha asked cautiously as she entered the kitchen. She didn't want it to look like she was sticking her nose in where it didn't belong. "Yeah, for now," Lois replied, curious as to why she would ask that--besides for the obvious reasons. "Why?" "Your boss called, he wanted to know if you two were going to call in sick or something," supplied Jonathan. "Oh, no!" Lois exclaimed as she glanced at the clock, her eyes widening in realization that so much time had passed. She was tempted to call in sick, but knowing Perry she thought better of it. "It's really late. Perry's going to be peeved!" "Lois, when is he not *peeved* about something?" Clark quipped. Lois grinned lightly, swatting him on the shoulder in a playful gesture. "Better not let him hear that or you may be out of a job faster than you can say 'Blue Suede Shoes.'" She grinned wider when Clark responded with an endearing smile of his own. "Also, a Dr. Klein called and asked that you please tell Superman to stop by next time you see him. Something about a new suit? I didn't really understand what he was talking about," Martha added to Clark as they were getting ready to leave. Clark thought to himself, who does half the time? Clark nodded his acknowledgment. He'd stop by S.T.A.R. Labs later on today. Then both of the Daily Planet's star reporters hurried out the door and off to their jobs before they had the opportunity to see Perry White really *peeved.* "I think it's going to work out okay between those two," Martha commented after the door closed behind her son and hopefully future daughter-in-law. Recalling how they were last night, this was a definite improvement and a positive step forward toward a bright and wonderful looking future for them both. "I think so, too, honey. At least I hope it will. I have never seen two people more in love before--more even than us." If that's a possibility, he thought. We were very much in love. He wrapped his arm around his wife's shoulder, drawing her closer to him. "Yep, we were quite the lovebirds when we were their age, weren't we, Jonathan," Martha replied, leaning her head on his shoulder while they reminisced about their own wonderful past, both hoping that their son's would be a repeat of that. * * * * * * continued in p 5 of 7 Lloyd Ralston Preferred Company lloydr@ldd.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:43:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LLOYD RALSTON Subject: A Revelation and the Bullet (p5 of 7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" The day seemed like it might go by without a hitch. Though far from resolving everything, Lois and Clark were at least on friendlier terms and working together with their usual efficiency. In fact, working together like this seemed to be helping them. Maybe it's the teamwork, reflected Clark. That's what Lois and me are about, teamwork. Lois walked by Clark's desk and noticed the funny, loving expression on his face. One he usually got when he was looking at her and he didn't think she knew it. Smiling happily, Lois walked up behind Clark, not noticing that he was rubbing his upper left arm as if it hurt. She reached around and squeezed his shoulders in greeting, sending a fresh wave a pain through his arm. Clark winced, but managed to hide his expression from her. "Hey there," she greeted warmly as she lightly kissed his cheek, "Almost done? I thought we'd head out for a late lunch and then call it a day." A day from work, not a day from the rest of things. But since Clark was so in tune with her, she knew he would understand her implication. It's time to get back to our talk, she thought. "Wish I could, but I have to finish this story," Clark responded glumly. I want to get out of here just as much as she does--to spend some much needed time alone with her, he thought. But work just complicates things. "No problemo," Lois smiled understandingly, "I'll just order us a pizza or takeout or something so we can eat here, okay?" "Yeah, sure, that sounds good," he returned her smile easily--clearly showing his appreciation of her giving up her own time to spend it with him at work. There was little activity left in the newsroom, apparently most people had decided to call it a day, too. But when Clark got up to get a fresh cup of coffee, Jimmy Olsen suddenly appeared out of nowhere and accidentally bumped into his sore arm. This time Clark couldn't hide his reaction and he let out an unintentional, "Oww!" "Sorry, CK," Jimmy patted his friend apologetically on his back, on a part he was sure wasn't sore. "I'm in hurry, I got a date with---" Jimmy's voice trailed off because neither Clark nor Lois was paying any attention to him. "Clark, are you okay?" Lois asked, concerned with Clark's outburst and the way he was rubbing his left arm. A wave of fear washed over her, Superman was invulnerable to pain, wasn't he? Then why did he--? Clark abruptly stopped rubbing his arm when he noticed she was staring at him in concern. He didn't want her to worry about him. He knew how she got when she was concerned about him. Best just to forget it happened. "I'm fine," he replied as if nothing was wrong, yet his voice carried a reassuring tone as well, as he attempted to return to his desk. But Lois wasn't convinced. I don't think so, she thought. Clark, when will you learn you can't hide things from me. And it's better if you don't even try. A slightly predatory look crossed her face as she determined to find out what was wrong. Uh oh, Jimmy thought and caught himself almost smiling. Looks like CK is in for it now. "Are you sure? Let me look at your arm," Lois demanded and blocked his route back to his seat. You aren't going anywhere, she thought. Her intentions clearly showing through. For some reason that irked Clark. Although he didn't know why. "Lois, I said I'm fine!" he snapped angrily. He looked at her shocked expression, which was mirrored on Jimmy's face, and knew he was acting snippy again. But he didn't want her to fret over him. He didn't even know why his arm was hurting, but it seemed to be affecting his mood. His mind almost made the connection, but he couldn't hold on to it. Besides, an apology seemed the best course of action right now, not silence while he pondered the connection between the pain in his arm and his changing attitude. "Uh, I'm sorry, Lois," he said sincerely, his eyes clearly showing that he was sorry for acting so out of line. "But my arm is okay, *I'm* okay," Clark stated, starting to feel even more guilty about his previous behavior. What if I couldn't control it? What if I hurt her--or even Jimmy? I couldn't stand it if I hurt anyone, especially Lois or my friends. "Let me be the judge of that," she replied determinedly. She quickly moved to his side and inspected his arm before he could protest, his reactions slowed by his horrible, troubling thoughts. What she saw surprised her. A raw, red-looking wound about an inch long and nearly half an inch deep ran across his left biceps. He couldn't help but wince as she lightly touched it. She herself winced in compassion, she knew it had to hurt. And touching it and being so rough with him wasn't helping, either. Jimmy whistled as his eyes widened perceptibly at the wound, "Wow, CK, how'd you get that scrape?" Before Clark could reply a phone rang and someone picked it up and then yelled at Jimmy. "Must be my date, gotta go. You should take better care of yourself in the future, CK. Somethin' like that could get infected," Jimmy said, patting Clark on the back as he scooted off to pick up the phone. Clark just nodded and tried to walk nonchalantly back to his desk, but Lois grabbed his arm and hauled him back, forgetting to be gentle with him. Oh no, you don't Clark! she thought, you're not getting out of this that easy. "Not so rough, Lois," he winced. He hated showing that he could be hurt. He liked to hide that from her and others, but sometimes he couldn't help it. "Sorry," she said. She wasn't used to hurting him, but she pushed that thought aside to question him. "Where did you get this, Clark?" She leaned in close to him as she lowered her voice a notch or two, "I thought you couldn't get hurt!" "Oh, I can," he whispered back matter-of-factly, "but it's a rarity. Mainly to do with Kryptonite--and most wounds don't stay this lon--" Oops! he thought, now I've made her even more worried. Shoot, why don't I just dig my own grave like I wanted to do last night, he thought despairingly. "How long have you had this wound, Clark?" Lois replied, her voice rising slightly. Thankfully, it attracted no unwanted attention from the few remaining people left in the news room and she forced herself to keep the hysteria and concern from her voice as she continued on despite Clark's attempts to silence her. "And why didn't you tell me? I thought we were going to be more open with each other--no more secrets! Remember our pact? And where did you run into Kryptonite?! And when?" One look at her face showed that she didn't want him to leave out any details and he sighed in resignation. "Slow down, Lois, I can only answer one question at a time...Okay, let's see, I think it came from yesterday when that guy shot me. I didn't think much of it at the time, but---" Something clicked in Lois' mind, he had started acting strangely right after he confronted that mugger... "The bullet must've had Kryptonite in it!" Lois said, voicing her opinion out loud. Clark thought about that briefly and nodded his head in assent, "Maybe, could've been, but if it did cause this, " Clark gestured at his arm, then his brow furrowed as he moved on to the next troubling thought. "Something about it just doesn't make sense, though. It would have to be Red Kryptonite to affect my mood, not Green. But only Green produces results like this." He pointed at his arm again to illustrate his point. "Yeah, you're right, it doesn't make sense. But I want to clean out that wound. I always keep a first aid kit in my car. I'll go get that, just stay here, okay? I'll be right back," she added as she rushed to elevator before Clark could stop her, giving him a look that said she meant business. He had better be there when she returned or there would be hell to pay. Clark simply sighed again and waited for her return. Lois was in such a hurry to get back to Clark that she forgot to lock the door after she retrieved the first aid kit from her glove compartment. She knew Clark didn't like to be coddled, but she didn't care, she was going to fix his arm. She rarely got a chance to do this sort of thing for him--for which she was glad--but she was going to be there for him no matter what. But what would it take for him to realize that? When Lois returned to the newsroom she pushed Clark firmly down into his chair against his protests and set to work on his arm and, by the time she was done, it really was time to leave. "C'mon, Clark, you can finish your story tomorrow. I want us to talk some more, but first I have to stop by my apartment," she told him as she retrieved her purse and coat. "Okay," Clark gave in, "So when will I see you?" "I'll come over in an hour or so." Clark nodded his agreement and they both left to go home, Clark by air and Lois by truck. * * * * * * Lois climbed into her truck and had just shut the door when she heard someone whisper in her ear, causing a chill of fear to go down her back. "Don't move, don't scream, don't do anything that would alert your *super* buddy. I don't care how quick he is, he can't stop a bullet from blowing out your brains when the nozzle is a mere centimeter from your head. Comprende? Good, now be a good little girl and drive where I tell you to and you won't get hurt." For some reason the voice seemed familiar but she couldn't quite place it. Lois did as she was told, hoping that she would get out of this alive, that the man wasn't going to hurt her and that she'd have a chance to see Clark again. This is definitely going on record as the worst few days of my life, Lois thought as she pulled the truck away from the curb. * * * * * * Cyrus and Cicely tied Lois up and then moved into another room. "Cic, will you tell me why you want to kill Superman so much? I don't like killing people and I hate guns," Cyrus complained. He was growing tired of his sister's evasions, he wanted the truth. He deserved the truth! " I just kidnapped someone!! I deserve to know why am I risking jail just so you can exact your revenge on Superman!" "Fine, if I tell you will you shut up?!" Cicely growled in annoyance. "Why have you grown so soft?" "How can you tell if I have grown soft or if I was always just this way? You've only known me for about a week!" Cyrus replied bitterly while crossing his arms. He hated to admit it but he was a softy. Always had been and always would be. He could tell his sister wasn't, although she might once have been. Maybe she would be again after she "exacted her revenge on Superman." "You'll understand once you learn what I've gone through" she said. And then she told him the whole depressing story. He was almost in tears when she finished. He couldn't believe what she had been through. Now he understood her feelings, but he didn't exactly share them. "Why didn't you tell me before?" he asked. We're siblings, he whined to himself, she should feel at ease telling me these things. "It wasn't the right time," she said evasively. That was partly true, but the real reason was the strong feelings and memories the story evoked each time she retold it--almost as if she was reliving it all over again in her head, and she didn't want to do that! She hated even thinking about it at all. It only made her mad and she directed that anger toward her target: Superman, the cause of it all. God, I hate him! she thought as she clenched her fists in anger. That's why I'm doing this, she thought, justifying her actions to herself. "I'm not so sure Superman was to blame, Cicely. I think--" Cyrus started, trying to appease her, set her straight. He knew exactly what she was thinking at the moment, and he couldn't help but think that her anger was misplaced. "That's the problem, you think too much. If you aren't going to help me kill him, then leave, Cy," Cicely replied in a low, angry but controlled voice. "I don't want to see you hurt, Cicely," he replied sincerely, hoping she'd listen to him. To no avail, though, as she turned back to her work, ignoring his pleas. "Then help me. Go find that bullet we lost in the alley, we don't want it falling into the wrong hands." That task should take him a while, she thought and smiled inwardly. She only felt a slight tinge of guilt for taking advantage of her brother this way. He's too naive. I was that way, once, and see where it got me! Cyrus hesitated, but then headed for the door. He knew she was up to something, but what? "Okay, I'm going to go find it, but in the meantime don't do anything hasty!" "You know me, Cy!" "Yes, that's what scares me...." he said softly, shaking his head in quiet frustration as he closed the door behind him. * * * * * * continued in p 6 of 7 Lloyd Ralston Preferred Company lloydr@ldd.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:53:13 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LLOYD RALSTON Subject: A Revelation and the Bullet (p6 of 7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Clark had grown increasingly concerned about Lois. It was almost nine--almost two hours since they had left the Planet--and she still hadn't shown up. He had left a message on her answering machine about half an hour ago, but she hadn't returned his call either. He knew that could actually mean several different things. Number one: she wasn't home yet. But he knew that wasn't very likely. Number two: she was still mad at him and had decided to stand him up. He shook his head, dismissing that thought. She might like him to stew and wallow in guilt, but she wouldn't have treated him okay all day if she was going to pull that trick tonight. Number three: she was on her way. But he knew that couldn't be right, either. It didn't take her a couple of hours to drive to his apartment. So that only left number four: she was in trouble, again. He couldn't help but groan at that thought. Of the four, the last was the most likely. Finally he couldn't stand it any longer and he decided to change into the suit and scour the city for her. I have to find her! he thought determinedly, if anything happens to her...he let that thought trail off as he called out to his parents. "Mom, Dad, I have to go look for her!" Martha and Jonathan knew it was pointless to try and talk him out of something once he made up his mind about it, but they tried anyway. Though they cared a lot for Lois, they didn't think Clark could help her much by just going out without a plan, endangering himself and her in the process. "Clark, what about the Kryptonite?" "Mom, I don't even know if they have any more of it. But I do know this--Lois keeps her word, so she must be in danger. I have to go help her." "If only you had some kinda protection...." Jon started. But what, the suit surely doesn't protect him much, he thought glumly while staring pointedly at Clark's injured arm. "Shoulda made the suit out of lead or lined it---" Martha stopped at the strange expression on her son's face, wondering exactly what was going through that mind of his. Who knows! she thought. Dr. Klein had mentioned he was working on a new project, a suit that could protect him from Kryptonite rays, but they were still testing it. It has to work, he thought. He, too, was afraid of another encounter with his only weakness besides Lois; and he knew that where there was some Kryptonite, there was usually more. And if he did run into it, he wouldn't be able to help Lois. Though this might be all a trap, he'd have to risk it. He'd risk anything for Lois. He shared his idea with his parents and they agreed it was the best bet in this situation. "Just be--careful..." Martha started, but before she could get the last word out her son was out the window, flying towards S.T.A.R. Labs. She sighed and hoped his plan would work. Jon simply pulled her into his arms comfortingly, but that couldn't stop her worried thoughts. * * * * * * Dr. Klein looked up from his research when he heard the familiar whoosh that blew his papers around and the accompanying thud behind him. He eagerly turned to the source. "Superman! Just the person I---" "Sorry, Dr. Klein, but I'm kind of in a hurry. That suit you're working on, that you told Clark about, I need it," he stated firmly, momentarily dropping the stoic facade he usually put on with the suit. I just hope that it will work. If not...well, he didn't want to think about that! "But it's-it's just a prototype, we haven't fully tested it yet!" Dr. Klein protested. "Please, Dr. Klein," Clark pleaded, "I need it now. It's important." The desperate look in his eyes must have convinced Dr. Klein to help him as he quit protesting and led Superman down the corridor to the room that held the suit. I don't like this, Klien thought to himself, but he knew nothing would stop Superman once he set his mind to it. As Superman slipped the gray and blue-lined suit on over his normal red, yellow, and blue uniform, Dr. Klein explained it a little. "It's a titanium alloy of lead. Much, much more durable and stronger than the first one, yet still quite pliable." "All I want to know is --will it work?" Superman said, hoping for a without-a-doubt affirmation. In his heart he knew he wouldn't get that as he slipped the blue-gray gloves over his hands. They matched the lining and blue 'S' shield on his chest. He felt like one of those people in suits at a contamination site. But if it works, who cares what I look like, he thought. "Oh, as far as we know, it's fully operational, but we haven't had..." he shook his head and continued to himself, "...any field tests yet...." Once again Clark had zoomed away, listening to only the part that he wanted to hear. Dr. Klein didn't like the idea that the first field test would be a real, dangerous situation but there wasn't a whole lot he could do to stop Superman. He couldn't help but wonder why Superman needed the suit so desperately. Nothing good, that's for sure, he thought. * * * * * * Clark knew every minute counted while Lois was in danger. A thousand horrible thoughts ran through his head. What if she's lying unconscious in some ditch? What if, Clark gulped, she's dead because I was too late? What if..... Stop it! He commanded himself. This isn't helping you and it won't do you any good to think this way. He had to nip those thoughts in the bud before he drove himself crazy with fear and "what if's." He started searching, ready to scrutinize every inch of the city if need be---though it would be a futile attempt if she was somewhere in a lead-lined room. Let's just hope this criminal isn't that smart! I'd never be able to find her then! Clark prayed she was okay, since such a long time had passed and he hadn't heard so much as peep out of her. C'mon Lois, say something! Anything! he silently pleaded with her. Then he heard something, but it wasn't Lois. He paused in mid-flight to devote all his attention to the voice and listened intently. "Superman, this is broadcasted on a frequency only you can hear. So I'll keep this short and sweet to save time. I have Lois! If you want to see her alive you had best listen to me and follow my directions!..." He listened as the voice continued and then flew quickly, breaking the sound barrier, to get to where the lady told him to go. But something was bothering him. Her voice, he thought, it sounds so familiar, yet I can't quite place it. He dismissed that thought as he landed at the old, abandoned lab and a blond-haired woman with startling green eyes approached him. Those eyes, that voice...could it be?! "Do you recognize me, Supes?" She saw the confusion in his brown eyes as he stared at her and with a sudden movement, she pulled off her wig, revealing short black hair. Clark was taken aback, as his eyes widened in wonder. She *was* the lady who had been mugged! But what was she doing here? And why did she have Lois? He was about to ask her those questions when he started feeling slightly weak. Like there was Kryptonite around somewhere, but where... Fortunately that was about the extent of the reaction so far. She smiled, duly noting his reaction, and continued, "Got yourself some new duds, I see." Then she narrowed her eyes in suspicion. Why isn't he weaker? He should be! And what is it with this suit! "Where's Lois," Clark asked as he advanced on her, tired of the conversation. Her smile broadened as she produced a gun from behind her back, ignoring his question. Well, it doesn't matter that he isn't reacting quite the way I figured, the outcome will be the same, she thought confidently to herself. "You destroyed the last gun--it was lead-lined and shielded the harmful rays from your detection until almost too late. I guess you are feeling the Hybrid-K now! These bullets will be the death of you! Now, in there with Ms. Lane." She pointed to the door with a slight movement of her head, her intent all too clear. Clark didn't move, he simply crossed his arms in the all-too-familiar Superman fashion. This seemed to make the lady even angrier, but there didn't seem to be much she could do about it. In reality, the suit was apparently working better than he'd thought it would for just a proto-type, so he wasn't feeling hardly any of effects from the Kryptonite. He wasn't sure he should reveal that just yet, though, he was afraid she might try to harm Lois if she figured out he was duping her. He suspected she was already suspicious, though, she was awful smart... She sighed in frustration at his arrogance and stubbornness, "Must I resort to force? Do I have to kill your girlfriend? Because that's what will happen if you don't get in there with her!" To show she wasn't kidding, the lady leveled her gun at Lois and pulled the trigger. The Kryptonite's affect wouldn't kill Lois, but hey, she thought, a bullet is a bullet. She is mortal and being the hero he is, he's bound to try to protect her. Hopefully he'll kill himself in the process, if I could only be so lucky. Clark had no choice but to block the path of the discharged bullet, hoping the suit would hold up to his expectations--and luckily it did. He felt more of the harmful effects of the Kryptonite as the bullet neared, but this time it didn't hurt him, although he couldn't help but stagger back a bit under its deadly influence. Lois had been gagged, as well as tied up, so she couldn't warn Clark that it was all a trap. She watched in horror as he leapt between her and the bullet and it struck him in the chest. She wanted to close her eyes or scream but she could do neither. When the bullet merely bounced off his chest, both Lois and the lady were shocked. He then hurried over to her and removed the gag before Cicely realized what had happened. "Are you okay, Lois? I was so worried about you," Clark said to her in a low whisper as he gently caressed her face. Lois could clearly hear the concern in his voice and shared some of her own worry with him--God, she thought she'd have a heart-attack when she saw him place himself in the bullet's path. "You worried about me?! I was so worried about you....how did?--" "Shhhh!" Clark quieted her, trying to calm her as he broke the rest of her bonds. Lois was near hysterics as she flung her arms around his neck, and he didn't want to worry her anymore. "I'm getting you outta here as soon as I take care of our little problem." As he said that he extracted himself gently from her arms and he turned to face Cicely with a steely expression on his face. He didn't like it when someone tried to kill his love. Suddenly it clicked in Cicely's mind. The suit, it must be lead! That's the only thing that can block Kryptonite rays. She knew she had to get rid of it if she wanted to exact her revenge on Superman. As Superman advanced, Cicely backed into the table and her hand fell on a container. She glanced over her shoulder. Acid, yes, that should work! Now I just have to get him a little closer. "It won't be as easy to apprehend me as it was to catch my brother, Supes," Cicely said, hoping to distract him so she could open the container behind her back. It worked. "Brother?" he stopped in midstep, "Who--?" he started, exchanging a puzzled look with Lois, who was trying to rub the soreness out of her wrists after being released from the tight ropes. "Oh, yes, my brother, my accomplice. He should be coming along soon with some more Kryptonite." That was a lie, but hell, she was an accomplished liar, so there was no way Supes would ever suspect anything. Superman was clearly confused, but he started to advance on her again. His smug grin returned to his face after a little hesitation. "Well, we'll have a little surprise waiting for him when he returns." He was just a couple of feet away from her when she brought something out from behind her back. "I don't think so, Supes. I think the surprise is on you!" she said, and then she flung the open container and its contents on him. Reflexively he staggered back, bringing up his arms to protect himself as the acid reacted with his suit, releasing a large cloud of gas as it melted away his suit with a sickening sound. Once again she aimed her gun at him, sure of victory this time. She knew he couldn't see her well through the clouds of gas and surely the acid had eaten away enough of his suit that the bullet wouldn't just bounce harmlessly off him this time. Cicely was just about to pull the trigger when a noise from behind her caught her attention. A door slammed shut and someone, her brother, shouted her name. "Not now," she growled and returned her attention to her quarry as the gas started to dissipate. As Superman recovered from the noxious fumes which had temporarily distracted him, she leveled the gun at him, aiming for the red and yellow insignia now visible on his chest through the tattered remains of the lead suit. Clark gulped in fear as he realized she knew why the previous bullet had not effected him and that this one would. Already he could feel the Kryptonite's deadly radiation and he staggered further back from her. Cicely smiled an evil, predatory smile and advanced on the weakening hero. Lois froze in shock at the rapid turn of events, suddenly realizing that Clark was vulnerable. She gasped in alarm and started toward him just as Cicely smiled even wider and pulled the trigger. "NO!" Lois screamed, as she threw herself forward in a desperate attempt to stop the bullet, even though she knew she was too far away to do any good. The bullet would have hit its intended mark, the Kryptonian's heart, if Cyrus hadn't interfered. Just as Cicely pulled the trigger he grabbed her arm, spoiling her aim and causing the bullet to lodge in Clark's already sore left arm instead of his chest. Clark sank to his knees in pain. "Cyrus!" she screamed at her brother in rage as she turned on him, completely ignoring Lois, who crouched at the side of the fallen Man of Steel. "Why the hel--!?" "Cicely, I'm not going to let you kill him for something that he didn't do! The cops are already on the way," Cyrus replied in a calm voice. "Why, you double-crosser! What kind of brother betrays his own sister!" she screamed again in outrage, advancing on him like she had attacked Superman. concluded in p 7 of 7 Lloyd Ralston Preferred Company lloydr@ldd.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 11:55:49 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LLOYD RALSTON Subject: A Revelation and the Bullet (conclusion) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable But Cyrus didn't cower under her wrath like she thought he would; he stood his ground instead. "The kind that's concerned about his sister. I don't want you to go to prison for the rest of your life for the murder of Superman! He," and Cyrus gestured toward the fallen hero, "never hurt you before, so I won't let you kill him."=20 "N-never hurt me, be--" Cicely sputtered in rage, unable to believe how her brother was acting toward her. "You nitwit, didn't you hear anything that I said to you before?!" "Can someone please clue me in here? What did Superman do to you?" Lois asked while she stroked Clark's forehead in an effort to keep him down beside her. I'm not going to let you get killed, she thought, so I have to keep them distracted until the police come. Oh, I hope that this Cyrus really did call them and wasn't just bluffing. "Oh, not to me, Ms. Lane," Cicely answered, her voice clearly showing her contempt for her victim, "but someone I held very dear...my father. He caused the death of my father!" She glared at Superman, whose mind was hazy from the effects of the Kryptonite in his bloodstream. Both Lois and Clark knew that they had to get the bullet out and soon, or face the detrimental and deadly consequences. When Superman still didn't seem to catch on she continued, a bit irked that her nemesis didn't instantly know who she was.= =20 She crouched down to stare Superman in the face. "My father was Dr. Gary Roberts. He worked for S.T.A.R. Labs, trying to find a cure for your vulnerability to Kryptonite. "He eventually created a mixture of both kinds of Kryptonite--Red and Green--and he called it Hybrid-Kryptonite--that's what's in you now," she stated happily. Hope it's enough that it will kill you, she thought, but I suppose I can't be so lucky. You would be dead now if it wasn't for my meddlesome brother. She continued, "He hoped that if he could further his research and experiments on Hybrid-K, he could find an inoculation to give you so you would ultimately be immune to all types of Kryptonite. "Anyway, others---who did not have the same purpose in mind for Hybrid-K, if you get my drift---found out and offered to pay quite a tidy sum for this new could-be weapon against you. Daddy refused and they didn't take his refusal very well, I'm afraid." She paused this time to sniff at her memories and to wipe a way a tear as she rose from the floor. She didn't want to show how much her memories still affected her.=20 Obviously what happened had pained her greatly and despite the current situation, Clark and Lois felt their hearts go out to Cicely as she continued her story. "Since I was his lab assistant, he gave me the location and the combination to the safe in which he hid the prototypes. He destroyed the rest of the samples, afraid that *they'd* get *their* hands on them. Daddy was so worried that the samples would fall into the wrong = hands. "He left his lab late that night because he had to do some more research on the Kryptonite, to be sure that he had made the breakthrough. He called me up, told me that he had left some important notes at home and had asked me to drop them by..." Cicely's voice broke as the painful memories she really didn't want to relive surfaced. She turned away from them as her emotions started to overcome her. "I arrived at the lab just in time to see his argument with some men. I hid so I could hear what they were talking about. It was the same ones who had harassed Daddy before; they had come by one last time to offer him money for his discovery. He refused and left the lab, heading for his car. "I was surprised they let him go so easily. Then I heard one of them say, 'Well, we tried to warn him, too bad we have to dispose of him.' Another one said, 'Yeah, a car bomb, what a way to go. C'mon let's get outta here before the cops arrive.' At that I hurried out as fast as I could to warn Daddy. I yelled at him, 'Daddy, don't open the door!' But I arrived to late...he had just opened his door and then turned to look back at me...and...and...." Cicely couldn't continue, it was just too painful--it was like she was reliving the horrible scene and once again, she couldn't save him. Dammit! she swore vehemently to herself, why did it have to happen? Daddy was doing something good, and-and--he didn't deserve this. Some doubt about what she was doing started creeping into her mind, but she tried not to think about it as her victim filled in his part of the story.= =20 "...and the car exploded," Clark filled in. "I remember, now. I arrived too late and I couldn't save him. I'm so sorry, I had no idea..." Clark really did remember now. No matter that he would have arrived too late...if only he had known what was happening, he would have been able to do something earlier. =20 "So, now I'm exacting justice...avenging my father. I'm going to kill you, Superman, for causing the demise of my father. You've heard of the expression: 'an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth,' haven't you? You know who killed my father, who was responsible...and now you are going to pay," she whispered vehemently, her tear-streaked face marred by her anger. =20 She pulled out a regular pistol. "You're weak enough that a normal bullet will do you in, Supes." Cicely cocked the gun and then leveled it at Clark's heart, ignoring a horror-stricken Lois who cowered over Superman, burying her face in his neck. Just as she was about to pull the trigger, she heard a voice calling out from behind her.=20 "Stop, Cicely!" the voice commanded and her heart almost stopped. Her thoughts had been so full of her father, and now someone who sounded like him had called out for her to stop. She turned around, half expecting to see her father standing there. If it was him, she would have gladly obeyed. She lifted her expectant eyes, clearly hoping to somehow see her father, but instead she only saw Cyrus. She had forgotten he was still there. =20 "Don't do this...it's wrong!" he said with conviction. He didn't want to see Superman die for something that was not his fault. "Superman didn't cause the death of our father. I don't know who did, but it wasn't his= fault!"=20 "Cyrus, stay out of this!" she managed to get out. "I'm sorry, but I can't, Cic," her twin brother replied gently, hoping to reach her on some level that wasn't consumed with thoughts of revenge. "I want you to give me the gun," he added as the sound of approaching sirens became audible. "The police will be here soon, it's best that you just give up!" "Never, Cy! Don't you want to avenge Daddy's death? Or are you still a turncoat, to both me and Daddy?" she retorted, knowing that it was a biting remark that had to hurt. But nothing was going to stand in her way of what was right. Wasn't what she was doing right? Wouldn't Daddy want her to avenge his death? "Yes, Cicely, I'd love to avenge Dad's death, but not this way," he replied calmly, slowly approaching his sister. =20 Lois held her breath, she knew that both her life and Clark's were in this stranger's hands, the stranger who had abducted her. Cyrus slowly walked closer toward his sister, gaining confidence when she didn't turn the gun on either him or the two victims again. "Then how, huh?" Cicely questioned as doubts about her actions started to creep into her mind again. "By finding the real killers, Cic, and putting them in jail where they deserve to rot for the rest of their lives. Not by putting you there, which is where you'll be if you go through with this!" I don't want to see you in jail, Cic, he thought, not when you don't deserve it. You've been through enough! "Cicely, we'd like to help you. We'll do everything in our power to help you find the real killers and put them away behind bars," Lois replied in a calm, soothing voice. She hoped that Cicely would believe she was telling the truth, that she would definitely help to put away the killers. No one deserved to go free when they had committed a crime like that. They could see Cicely was caving in, but suddenly she whirled around to harshly prod Superman in his sore shoulder, causing him to yelp in pain. But this time she felt no joy at causing him pain. Maybe I've caused him enough pain already, she thought, but still... "He's the one who--"=20 Clark grimaced in pain. "No, Ms. Roberts, I'm not. I wish more than anything in the world that I'd arrived in time to save your father. If I had known that someone was harassing your father, I would have kept an eye on him. I didn't even know this-this Hybrid-K stuff existed until now," Superman replied remorsefully. He knew this was a dangerous situation and he was concerned that this grieving, bereaved lady might still flip out and shoot either Lois, him, or even her brother. He didn't want the situation to get any further out of control, especially since the police were rapidly approaching. Cicely had apparently forgotten that, as she didn't seem interested in escaping. "And I personally would like to see them thrown in jail," Clark continued. "I want to help you, but I can't help you if I'm= dead." Even when she held the power of life and death over him, Superman still wanted to help her. That surprised Cicely. But, she thought, it could also be because she did, in fact, have the ability to kill him. She really didn't want to kill anyone any more, and the realization that her brother was right, that it wasn't Superman's fault that her daddy died, only added to her indecisiveness. Maybe this wasn't really the thing to do, she thought. She also knew that Superman would keep his word and relentlessly hunt down her daddy's killers and bring them to justice. Her head drooped when she realized just how much pain and havoc she had brought to Superman and Lois with her plans for revenge. She was trying to exact revenge on the wrong person, and killing never really solved anything--it only brought more hurt and pain. And she didn't want to bring any more of that into the world. She sighed in resignation, and handed the gun to her brother just as the police came in. =20 * * * * * * =20 Lois and Clark walked through Centennial Park, somehow ending up in the same place they always did when they had something important to say to each other--the fountain. Clark, who had healed quickly after the bullet was removed, was filling Lois in on the highlights of his later conversation with Cyrus. "I just can't believe that those two were separated at birth, and that whole story..." Clark shook his head in remorse. "I wish I could have done something more for them, somehow prevented the death of Dr.= Roberts." "Clark, you can't beat yourself up over this," Lois said, trying to reassure Clark. "You can't save everyone, you know that. Besides, your *super* help reduced their sentences to probation and community service. And, if it's who I think it sounds like was behind all that, Lex will be staying in jail for a long, long time and he won't be able to bother anyone again." "But can we prove it?" Clark asked. =20 "I surely hope so...by the way, where did you get the 'new duds' from?" Lois teased, trying to lighten the mood. "Oh, remember, my mom mentioned that Dr. Klein had called and had some new type of suit for me to try out. It's supposed to protect me from Kryptonite rays and be pretty indestructible." Clark chuckled as he remembered Dr. Klein's expression when he returned the remains of the suit. "Poor Dr. Klein wasn't too happy to see what had happened to his proto-type, but at least he was pleased to find out that it works." "Except against acid," Lois added, "you'll have to take that up with him, Clark. A suit like that could mean that your problems with Kryptonite are basically over with, until they do find a cure for you. Maybe we can finally settle down and start to have a normal life now." "Us? Have a normal life? You've gotta be kiddin', Lois," Clark said, raising his eyebrows at her statement. "There's nothing normal about our life." =20 "You're right, being Mrs. Superman isn't going to be very boring, but that's what makes it exciting, that we won't have a normal relationsh--" She stopped and raised an eyebrow at the strange look on his face. "What?!" "What you just said--" Clark started. "About us living for excitement and not having a boring, normal day in our lives?" queried Lois with a smile. She thought she knew what he was talking about, but... "No, Lois, I was referring to the fact that you said 'Mrs.' anything concerning us. Are you actually considering marrying me?" he said, unable to keep the hopeful tone out of his voice.=20 "Would you consider having me as a wife, even though I put your life in jeopardy constantly?" Lois questioned him back, reveling in the look of absolute delight and hope in his eyes when he thought it was a possibility that she'd marry him. She had had plenty of time to think about it while the twins held her hostage, and she had done a lot of thinking about it...about maybe never seeing Clark again and how she would feel if that happened. She never, ever wanted that, she wanted Clark in her life. She couldn't live without him. Clark turned to Lois, stopping he in her tracks. "Lois, I'd gladly put my life in jeopardy everyday if you'd be my wife." Having Lois as his wife would be a dream come true. He pulled out the little box from his pocket and held it out to her, "Lois, it would make my day, my life, if you'd marry me." "Ohh, Clark..." Lois started, but the words froze in her throat and he mistook her hesitation for a "no."=20 "I know, I know," he said and hung his head as his expression of joy and hope faded away, "it's too soon, I should have waited longer. I'm sorry." He slowly closed the lid and started to return the box to his pocket, but Lois grabbed his wrist, effectively halting his actions. "No, Clark," Lois said and pulled his face down to meet hers. "The time is right...and I'd be honored to become your wife." "Y-you would?!" Clark stuttered in surprise. =20 Lois laughed softly at his expression while gently caressing his face. "Yes, of course, silly...I love you and I want to be with you. That is, if you'll have me?" Clark nearly losing his life and then risking it for her and all the other things they'd been through lately had opened her eyes and she was more than willing to become his wife. "I love you, too, Lois, with all of my heart and soul. Of course I want you," Clark said as he slid the ring on her finger with a light heart, a heart so full of joy he thought it might burst. But if he did die in the next few moments, he knew he couldn't have picked a happier moment to die, or a better way to go. "Always trying to out do me, huh?" Lois teased, rewrapping her arms around his neck, and pulling her fianc=82 in closer. He couldn't keep the grin from his face. "Well, don't I always come out on top?" he joked. "Ughh, Clark, you can be sooo impossible sometimes," Lois said jokingly as she gently punched him in the shoulder--she had to do it gently otherwise she'd probably hurt herself on him. Once again wrapping her arms around his neck, she drew him to her and kissed him soundly on the mouth, stopping any retort dead in its tracts as he became engrossed and nearly overwhelmed in her outpouring of love. =20 Both of them were enjoying the moment so much that they didn't hear the approaching storm until the rain poured down over both of them. Lois leaning her head back, arms still clasped in a loving embrace around Clark's neck and laughed, "Don't we ever get a private moment?" she asked, more of the sky than of Clark. =20 "Not usually," Clark sighed, but then he smiled down at her. "It's either Jimmy, or our parents--or now, I guess we should add the elements to the list of things that interrupt us." "That reminds me, we better get back to your apartment before your parents send out a SWAT team for us. Besides, I'm sure they'd like to hear the good news, just as much as my parents will!" =20 Lois wrapped her arm around her fiance's waist, leaning into his embrace as he hugged her to his shoulder. He sighed in pleasure as she snuggled in closer, laying her head down on his shoulder. And they walked happily down the street to share their good news, not minding the weather one bit. ***The End*** Lloyd Ralston Preferred Company lloydr@ldd.net ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:41:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Oracle Subject: Dean and Mindy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I was wondering if anybody knows what went on w/Dean and Mondy. Thanks! Oracle This is so much fun, it's freaky! Rockhound, Armageddon Don't criticize what you can't understand. I don't want the world to see me, 'cause I don't think that they'd understand. When everything feels like the movies, yeah, ya bleed just to know your alive.