From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG9801D" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 02:17:45 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sarah Martelle Subject: Re: apologies!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh DARN!! and here I thought I was getting a new NFic :::cough cough::::: Wanna let us know how it ends?? LOL Sal I couldnt resist!! -----Original Message----- From: The Gardner Family To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Date: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 7:26 PM Subject: apologies!!! FoLC's, If you could have seen the color of my face when I realized I sent that to the list, You would have died from hysterics. I am so sorry and I'll never let it happen again. Brad ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 01:47:11 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: apologies!!! In-Reply-To: <01BD269A.21BA04A0@ppp102.htc.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, Brad, don't worry about it -- everyone on the list has done this at = one time or another, I'll bet And for what it's worth, Sheena is one very lucky lady. :) Peace ---------- > FoLC's, > If you could have seen the color of my face when I realized I sent that= to the > list, You would have died from hysterics. I am so sorry and I'll never = let it > happen again. > Brad ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 05:23:14 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: Hey baby!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:22 PM 1/21/98 -0600, "Brad" wrote: >Sheena, >It's been a while and it felt so good to hold you in my arms last night. I miss you already and I can't wait for you to come home. Love your ever loving boyfriend Brad. Sounds like a great fanfic opening to *me*... Debby "Sheena?" Stark... ;) Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:06:14 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: Hey baby!!! In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19980122052720.22bfb6a2@swcp.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:23 AM 1/22/98 -0700, you wrote: >At 06:22 PM 1/21/98 -0600, "Brad" wrote: > >>Sheena, >>It's been a while and it felt so good to hold you in my arms last night. I >miss you already and I can't wait for you to come home. Love your ever >loving boyfriend Brad. > >Sounds like a great fanfic opening to *me*... > >Debby "Sheena?" Stark... ;) >Debby@swcp.com > No, it sounds like a great ROUND ROBIN fanfic opening to me...I'll start... Lois and Clark were about to enter the Daily Planet when a lady bumped into Clark. "Sorry." she mumbled with her head down and a tissue in her hand. Clark, stunned by the bump didn't say anything. Lois looking back from the door to see what kept her husband, noticed a piece of paper at Clark's feet. Lois came over and picked it up. Reading it quickly, she asked, "Did that woman drop this?" "I guess so." Clark shrugged. ---NEXT--- Sorry Brad, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:36:54 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Punch lines [was Re: Five (well 7) Favorite Fanfics] In-Reply-To: <01BD2440.1FEBDCE0@ppp116.htc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:36 PM 1/18/98 -0600, The Gardner Family wrote: >3) B.B Medos- Lois's Revenge and Clark's Response-These were the first two fics I read and they are what got me interested in fanfiction and thus the list Er, um, this IS a good thing, right?!? Oh, boy, now that's scary, knowing I may have contributed to warping someone's mind! I've been quiet this week, and staying out of the favorite's discussion, because I'm sort of extremely busy offline but this one caught my eye and I just had to comment . . . and say thank you. I think. And speaking of first stories read, which will usually become top favorites if not favorites, the first L&C fanfic I can remember reading is DIRTY BUBBLES by Zoom. Talk about staying power in one's memory. That's one that makes me want to pout and mutter, "Oh, wow, wish I'd thought of THAT!" Very visual! Of course, LOIS' REVENGE had it's moments along those line too. But personally, DIRTY BUBBLES has the absolute best punch line that I can remember. Hey, that's a good theme inquiry . . . punch lines. I LOVE punch lines. I'm a sucker for punch lines. So, I'll submit that one to the theme inquiry myself and I am keeping track of theme inquiries on the Kathy's Challenge list, but only where we don't KNOW the stories in advance and are asking for ideas. Let someone else keep track of nominating stories for Best of Category. So, what other fairly short fanfics have great punch lines? Remember NO SPOILERS about the punch lines! Beverly :-) [B.B. Medos in another identity] ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 08:59:08 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Punch lines [was Re: Five (well 7) Favorite Fanfics] In-Reply-To: <01BD2440.1FEBDCE0@ppp116.htc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:36 PM 1/18/98 -0600, The Gardner Family wrote: >3) B.B Medos- Lois's Revenge and Clark's Response-These were the first two fics I read and they are what got me interested in fanfiction and thus the list Er, um, this IS a good thing, right?!? Oh, boy, now that's scary, knowing I may have contributed to warping someone's mind! I've been quiet this week, and staying out of the favorite's discussion, because I'm sort of extremely busy offline but this one caught my eye and I just had to comment . . . and say thank you. I think. And speaking of first stories read, which will usually become top favorites if not favorites, the first L&C fanfic I can remember reading is DIRTY BUBBLES by Zoom. Talk about staying power in one's memory. That's one that makes me want to pout and mutter, "Oh, wow, wish I'd thought of THAT!" Very visual! Of course, LOIS' REVENGE had it's moments along those line too. But personally, DIRTY BUBBLES has the absolute best punch line that I can remember. Hey, that's a good theme inquiry . . . punch lines. I LOVE punch lines. I'm a sucker for punch lines. So, I'll submit that one to the theme inquiry myself and I am keeping track of theme inquiries on the Kathy's Challenge list, but only where we don't KNOW the stories in advance and are asking for ideas. Let someone else keep track of nominating stories for Best of Category. So, what other fairly short fanfics have great punch lines? Remember NO SPOILERS about the punch lines! Beverly :-) [B.B. Medos in another identity] ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:43:29 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Zoomway Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Punch lines [was Re: Five (well 7) Favorite Fanfics] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-22 10:18:44 EST, blatham@HOP-UKY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET writes: << And speaking of first stories read, which will usually become top favorites if not favorites, the first L&C fanfic I can remember reading is DIRTY BUBBLES by Zoom. Talk about staying power in one's memory. That's one that makes me want to pout and mutter, "Oh, wow, wish I'd thought of THAT!" Very visual! Of course, LOIS' REVENGE had it's moments along those line too. But personally, DIRTY BUBBLES has the absolute best punch line that I can remember. >> First, before I get into 'punch lines', I want to thank all the kind and thoughtful remarks about various fanfic stories I've written over the years. That's extremely flattering of you Folc, and touching. I've been absent from this and other interesting threads the last several days, not due to lack of interest, but because, as anyone on IRC can tell you, I have been fighting the monster of computer technology on behalf of my sister. Trying to get my sister's computer up to 125mhz, with 40meg RAM and upgrading Windows 3.1 to Win 95 and a zip drive reminds me of that line from Mystery Science Theater 3000 "What is it about the gates of Hell that compels people to wonder into to 'em?" For the time being, my sister seems set up and running, so I'll leap in here. First, on the "nfic" issue. I'll just quote one of my fave SF authors when he said "Good Science Fiction is simply good fiction." I think the same is true of good nfic. Science Fiction is definitely not everyone's cup of tea, and the same holds true of nfic. They are both specific genres of fiction that either appeal or do not. When some of us get together and write nfic live on the IRC, I (and several others) just write the 'fanfic' part, but not the 'nfic' part. I greatly admire those who can write an impromptu sensual scene (Peace, Sheila, Demi, Julie and others) on the channel. To me there is a difference between erotica and pornography, and the best nfic is erotica. It has a sensual quality borne of mutual love and trust between the characters of Lois and Clark. There is nfic, just as fanfic, that I don't like, and that's because it deals with themes or elements that don't appeal to me personally. Other than the erotic interludes, I don't see much difference to the two types of fic, and enjoy them both. On the issue of favorite stories, well, that number would be legion I often get stories sent to me long before they are finished, and due to that, I often don't know what the title of the story ends up being when it finally hits the fanfic list or archive. I think I'm like Clark in that I remember 'the moments' and like Lois in that "that's the part that touches me" ;) Whether it's a great vignette (Gary has written many of those, or Jeagan from the AOL boards) or a full blown story with an 'A plot' (like Sheila's, or the story Eileen sent me before I took my flight ;) or a story that is like a long vignette in that it has no 'A plot' (like Chris's Kansas City story) it's the emotional impact moment all fanfic contains that attracts me. Also, I read the Superman comics, and so I even enjoy stories that delve a bit in that direction like most of Jon Knutson's stories, or any one who has written an 'Elseworld' story. As for punch lines, thanks Beverly, this is the part where I'm like Tempus (God, I love irony ;) 'Dirty Bubbles' allows me to bring up a genre of fiction I love to do, I call it "request fic". That is, someone says they want me to write a story for them. I think 'Dirty Bubbles' came about because Bev Clark (or Becky, can't remember) posted to LOISCLA that she had purchased Superman bubble bath and thought it would make a cute fanfic involving Lois and then wrote something like "hint hint..Zoom" and so I took the hint She had no premise or anything, she just wanted a story involving Lois and a bubble bath, but sometimes that's all it takes when someone does a request to "get the juices flowing" on a fanfic. 12:01 was a "request fic" from Angie, but all she said was she wanted to see the date L&C made at the end of Individual Responsibility and the only stipulation was that it take place in an Indian restaurant. I don't know if other fanfic writers do requestfic, but it's a lot of fun. I tend to call the 'punch line' part of any story the 'payoff'. I can honestly say I have no idea how my stories will end until I reach the end. I can't work from an outline (not mine, but I can work from someone else's) I'd actually love to hear how fanfic writers on the list work. What prompts a fanfic writer to cover a certain story premise? And when they do, why a certain direction, and not another? That's the part that fascinates me. Anyway, sorry for the long ramble, but I wanted to thank everyone for the kind words and the interesting topics. Zoomway@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:14:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: IRC?? In-Reply-To: <199801220430.VAA17897@sage.cncc.cc.co.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 9:30 PM -0700 1/21/98, Sheila Harper wrote: But be warned, round robins are addictive. Many of us >have been known to stay on the channel from 5 to 12 hours or more, trying to >get a story finished. LOL! I don't know which is worse ... that we stay on-line for that long at one time, or that we freely admit it. Kathy (a self-confessed IRC junkie) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net <---- updated 1/17/98 KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:42:32 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: KampmeyerM Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Hey baby!!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-21 19:25:16 EST, you write: << Sheena, It's been a while and it felt so good to hold you in my arms last night. I miss you already and I can't wait for you to come home. Love your ever loving boyfriend Brad. >> Why BRAD! And we thought you were only around 14! Such lascivious behavior! I'm sure you are totally embarrassed that you sent this to the ENTIRE LISTSERV so I won't take you to task too soundly. I just hope Sheena got the message! ROTFLMHO! Marie ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:31:13 +0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Mills Subject: Re: Punch lines [was Re: Five (well 7) Favorite Fanfics] In-Reply-To: <2f2b0a11.34c7af89@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 15:43 22/01/98 EST, Zoomie wrote: > >First, on the "nfic" issue. I'll just quote one of my fave SF authors when he >said "Good Science Fiction is simply good fiction." I think the same is true >of good nfic. Science Fiction is definitely not everyone's cup of tea, and the >same holds true of nfic. They are both specific genres of fiction that either >appeal or do not. When some of us get together and write nfic live on the >IRC, I (and several others) just write the 'fanfic' part, but not the 'nfic' >part. I greatly admire those who can write an impromptu sensual scene (Peace, >Sheila, Demi, Julie and others) on the channel. To me there is a difference >between erotica and pornography, and the best nfic is erotica. It has a >sensual quality borne of mutual love and trust between the characters of Lois >and Clark. There is nfic, just as fanfic, that I don't like, and that's >because it deals with themes or elements that don't appeal to me personally. >Other than the erotic interludes, I don't see much difference to the two types >of fic, and enjoy them both. > Zoom Thank you for putting my feelings on fic/nfic so clearly - a well written fic is always worth the read, whether it be adult or not. You know I have a 'special collection' of Zoomie's fics, and my all-time favourite remains 12.01 (yes, I'm a sucker for the slush) - it's not adult, but it suggests so much. Cheers for now - back to lurking Jenny ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jenny Mills j.mills@netcom.co.uk jmills@ccta.gov.uk Lois: In one lousy second, I lost my partner and my best friend. He died without knowing. I never told him. - ToGoM Wells: Destiny has blessed you both with each other. No small gift indeed. There's many people who travel alone through, well, their whole lives and envy what you two have together . . . greatly. - Soul Mates ------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:45:27 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Ellimrac Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: help Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I want a write a fanfiction crossover between the X-files and Lois and Clark and I'm stuck suggestions are welcome. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:54:52 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: KampmeyerM Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Motivation Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-22 15:58:40 EST, Zoomway writes << What prompts a fanfic writer to cover a certain story premise? And when they do, why a certain direction, and not another? That's the part that fascinates me. >> It also fascinates me in that I'm not sure how to get started. I mean, we have all the characters, we have the setting, and sometimes we also have the plot (Good vs Evil, Good mostly winning) but what about the nitty gritty stuff, the thing that makes LNC what it is? Or do I just start writing? Marie ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:49:52 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Gardner Family Subject: FW: Hey baby!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- From: KampmeyerM Sent: Thursday, January 22, 1998 4:43 PM To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: Re: Hey baby!!! In a message dated 98-01-21 19:25:16 EST, you write: << Sheena, It's been a while and it felt so good to hold you in my arms last = night. I miss you already and I can't wait for you to come home. Love = your ever loving boyfriend Brad. >> Why BRAD! And we thought you were only around 14! Such lascivious = behavior! I'm sure you are totally embarrassed that you sent this to the = ENTIRE LISTSERV so I won't take you to task too soundly. I just hope = Sheena got the message! ROTFLMHO! Marie Ha Ha Ha- So little you guys actually know about me!! I don't turn 14 = until March 20th. And I never knew something this embarrassing could be = this fun!!! And Gary, were you just joking about the fic thing or are you really = going to start one? If you do I am first in line to read it! And for = those of you nosey people out their, yes Sheena is my girlfriend and we = are pretty serious. But that's all you get to know!!!!! Catch ya' later, Brad:) ------------------------------------------ Brad Gardner Gardners@htc.net=20 Visit the Gardner family web directory at http://www.angelfire.com/ga/gardners/index.html=20 ------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:56:29 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Gardner Family Subject: FW: IRC?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- From: Leanne Shawler Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 1998 8:02 PM To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: Re: IRC?? >Some of you guys always sign with "name" on IRC. And there IRC = ROUNDROBIN >Fanfics around. According to Buffy the Vampire Slayer a roundrobin is = when >you take turns calling parents telling them that you're at each others >houses. So what are IRC and ROUNDROBIN in the Lois and Clark world?? IS >IRC a chat place? Please explain. > >Brad > Ah, another Buffy fan .... gods, they're like coming out of the LOISCLA = woodwork. *anyway*, the roundrobin described in Buffy is only *slightly* like what = a round robin fiction is. The name comes from sports-round robins are where all the teams play = each other ... in fanfic, it's when everyone on the irc channel (or via = email) takes turn in writing part of the fic ... just like how each = Slayerette took turns in calling each other's parents ... Leanne Well you would know that I was a Buffy fan if you went to my page!!!! = Just kidding. Actually I'm on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer Fanfiction = list as well as Lois and Clark. Well take my advice and visit my site. = Gotta trip, ------------------------------------------ Brad Gardner Gardners@htc.net=20 Visit Brad's World- everything from Buffy to Lois and Clark to Friends http://www.angelfire.com/ga/gardners/brdswrld.html=20 ------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 18:22:29 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:45 PM 1/22/98 EST, you wrote: >I want a write a fanfiction crossover between the X-files and Lois and Clark >and I'm stuck suggestions are welcome. Can't help you--I wrote one myself :) I have to edit it a bit (it's been published in a great zine but I want to look it over again) and then I'll throw it on this list :) I suggest trying something not obvious, some totally different approach... Maybe Mulder grew up in a town near Smallville and he and Clark were on opposing sports teams and... ;) Or the same with Scully and Lois :) They are rivals who turn into partners. Debby Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:16:17 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: Re: Hey baby!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Ha Ha Ha- So little you guys actually know about me!! I don't turn 14 until March >20th. And I never knew something this embarrassing could be this fun!!! >And Gary, were you just joking about the fic thing or are you really going to start >one? If you do I am first in line to read it! And for those of you nosey people out >their, yes Sheena is my girlfriend and we are pretty serious. But that's all you get to >know!!!!! Sorry, Brad, but I've gotta harrass you, too, since my little brother isn't around to harrass! First of all, we pride ourselves on being nosy , and second of all... PRETTY SERIOUS???? At 13 yrs??? I think we'd like to know your definition of "pretty serious"! LOL! JK! /me exits laughing hysterically....things are always SO serious when you're young and in love. I remember...I was there :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:24:03 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Gardner Family Subject: Re: Hey baby!!! Comments: To: Erin Klingler MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit So how old are you wise Erin? ---------- From: Erin Klingler Sent: Thursday, January 22, 1998 8:16 PM To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: Re: Hey baby!!! >Ha Ha Ha- So little you guys actually know about me!! I don't turn 14 until March >20th. And I never knew something this embarrassing could be this fun!!! >And Gary, were you just joking about the fic thing or are you really going to start >one? If you do I am first in line to read it! And for those of you nosey people out >their, yes Sheena is my girlfriend and we are pretty serious. But that's all you get to >know!!!!! Sorry, Brad, but I've gotta harrass you, too, since my little brother isn't around to harrass! First of all, we pride ourselves on being nosy , and second of all... PRETTY SERIOUS???? At 13 yrs??? I think we'd like to know your definition of "pretty serious"! LOL! JK! /me exits laughing hysterically....things are always SO serious when you're young and in love. I remember...I was there :) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:37:02 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Hey baby!!! In-Reply-To: <01BD2773.B3095EE0@ppp113.htc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 8:24 PM -0600 1/22/98, The Gardner Family wrote: >So how old are you wise Erin? LOL! Let's just say that Erin has kids ... but they are still much younger than you. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:00:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Genevieve Subject: The whole awards thing Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think the idea of having awards is great, and I look forward to seeing the nominations. I've been thinking about this and have a couple of ideas. First, I think that we should disqualify any story that was published after 1 January 1998. This way we can do the whole awards thing again next year with the 1998 stories. Secondly, once we figure out what the categories are, I thought maybe we on this list could come up with a list of "nominees" -- five candidates in each category. Then we could open the voting up to the entire world of FoLCdom. Otherwise, I'm afraid the counting vote part might be too overwhelming. I'd be glad to help with this -- LeAnne, are you officially in charge of it? ======================================================================= Genevieve (NightSky@erols.com) "I must say that television is very educational. The minute someone turns it on, I go to the library and find a good book"--Groucho Marx ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:04:16 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debra M Berg Subject: Re: The whole awards thing On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:00:33 -0500 Genevieve writes: >I think the idea of having awards is great, and I look forward to >seeing >the nominations. I've been thinking about this and have a couple of >ideas. > >First, I think that we should disqualify any story that was published >after >1 January 1998. This way we can do the whole awards thing again next >year >with the 1998 stories. > >Secondly, once we figure out what the categories are, I thought maybe >we on >this list could come up with a list of "nominees" -- five candidates >in >each category. Then we could open the voting up to the entire world >of >FoLCdom. Otherwise, I'm afraid the counting vote part might be too >overwhelming. > >I'd be glad to help with this -- LeAnne, are you officially in charge >of >it? > > Well, I am not a writer........but I am an avid reader! (Now comes the part that I really *can't* believe) I would like to volunteer for duty as a non-writer, unbiased, sensible, impartial, honest, unprejudiced, objective, fair and equitable helper with this project........ breath, Deb, breath....... Debbie Berg abbra15@juno.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:25:45 +0100 Reply-To: heinemann@s-direktnet.de Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Andreas Heinemann Subject: Round Robin: Hey Baby [0..2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brad - you asked for it - here you go. Round Robin: Hey Baby [1]: Gary -- the pilot --- Lois and Clark were about to enter the Daily Planet when a lady bumped into Clark. "Sorry." she mumbled with her head down and a tissue in her hand. Clark, stunned by the bump didn't say anything. Lois looking back from the door to see what kept her husband, noticed a piece of paper at Clark's feet. Lois came over and picked it up. Reading it quickly, she asked, "Did that woman drop this?" "I guess so." Clark shrugged. ---NEXT--- Round Robin: Hey Baby [0 - completely unaware and mostly innocent ;-) ]: Brad at The Gardner Family --- innocence --- Sheena, It's been a while and it felt so good to hold you in my arms last night. I miss you already and I can't wait for you to come home. Love your ever loving boyfriend Brad. ---NEXT--- Round Robin: Hey Baby [2] Andreas --- wild tangents --- "So what do you make out of it ?" Lois asked her beloved husband after reading the message aloud. "So, what ?" he responded, "what's just a romantic boy happy to hold ..." "Clark, get a grip. You may play the innocent farmboy in Kansas if you like. But here in Metropolis you should try to be a top investigating reporter, determined to get all the clues out of this secret code. I know you have the bite if you like," Lois fumed. "So 'It's been a while' means that they have been waiting for some time, if that is what you are thinking of," Clark surrendered, knowing for better than trying to get rag & bones out of the fangs of mad dog Lane in action. "You know," she continued, "they say one thing and mean the other or play with different meanings of the words or - Brad at the Gardner familiy - they write it down blatantly blunt. Clark, That's the Gardner family - the mafia ! And Brad, their Godfather's offspring signed this message !" "Lois, that's a wild tangent." Clark interjected, "The Gardner family is respected. They have done so much good - you know the Gardner shelter for (ex-) evil cult members, the broke evil overlords refunds organisation and so much more. They are celebrities in our town. You don't think that would be just - masquerade ? However they seemed to be close friends to Mindy Church at the last annual Lex Luther remembrance charity ball - organised by CostMart - Hmm" "You slowly get the hint. Let's see. '... it felt so good to hold you in my arms last night.' Well ... Oh Clark, " Lois realised, 'in ... arms'. 'IN ARMS' - They are waiting for weapons ! Or he was happy to hold her in his arms. He held her in check of his weapons. He was aiming at her !" "Nah, Lois," her husband reminded her, "that doesn't have to have this meaning." "But Clark, he missed her," Lois insisted, "that means that he may still be going for Sheena. I just hope she knows that's coming for her - that he's pretty serious about her ! " "Ok, next clue, " Clark surrendered, " last night - the opposite would be - tomorrow." "Carver, and his dreaded Tomorrow. Sorrows never die !" Lois exploded, "if i ever get my hands on that devil again, i'm gonna squeeze him and squeeze him 'til the evil grins !" "Lois, i am sorry for Paris", Clark tried to comfort her as tears slowly formed in her eyes, "we all know you two were pretty close, just if you had shared your childhood." "Wasn't Brosnan into a bond thing to protect her ?", Jimmy interjected. "It's a shame that they might get away with it", Perry concluded. "No, they won't. Paris and i have often been asked if we were twins looking so much alike the other in our youth. So the decided to change our hairs every now and then to point out our individuality. I will take her place and get to the ground. " "You might get to the ground of the themse that way, " Clark thought to himself and said " I am with you, Lois. We owe Paris truth and justice." "zero zero naught - you most naughty agent in service of her majesty, " Lois vowed, " I'm gonna slap your face for sure the next time i meet you." ---NEXT--- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 03:22:38 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Round Robin: Hey Baby [0..2] In-Reply-To: <34C845F9.CAFBD549@s-direktnet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was hilarious!!! LOL!!! Well, Brad, now you've seen the beginning of a round robin -- we look forward to your next contribution! Peace ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:44:19 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: GWalden Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Punch lines [was Re: Five (well 7) Favorite Fanfics] Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I missed out on the whole 'list of recommended fanfics" thread because it took me so long to come up with my list ;), but Zoomie as usual summed up a lot of my feelings so nicely, it hardly matters. Ditto on the nfic stuff and what makes any kind of fanfic good. One reason I have such a hard time coming up with a list of "favorite" (as opposed to "good" - I'd agree with most of the lists of top stories that were discussed before) is that I'm in the very small group of fans who prefer stories *within* the continuity. I may be the only person who likes the revelation on the show better than any of the ones done in fanfic. When I say "within the continuity" - I mean a story that doesn't directly contradict an event that we knew about at the time the story was written. For instance, Zoomway's "Counter Clark-Wise" (*my* first fanfic - lucky for me) is set in the first season's continuity, and doesn't require that you ignore anything else that happened then, or subsequently. In-between stories that expand on stuff that happened on-screen are a popular genre, but to me, the best ones don't introduce any events or knowledge that can't be tied into what happened in later episodes. This is pretty restrictive, I know, and I'm not sure why I feel this way - maybe it goes back to my affection for the show itself, which anyone knows who's read my posts, is about as unconditional as you can get. As I said, though, there are lots of wonderful stories that don't meet this criterion at all, but when one does, it's especially appealing to me. On the question of why or how a story gets written - that differs a lot from writer to writer, but it's a very interesting question and I hope other authors will go into more detail about their motivations. I've only stuck my toe in the fanfic waters, and perhaps for that reason, my own motivation was very clear to me. I had a very strong emotional reaction to one of the aspects of the alternate dimension episodes that never had a chance to be resolved. That was the problem the Other-Lois would face when she was found (I never doubted she would be ) - the feeling of being second choice. I''ve always disliked romances in which the heroine was a widow or in some way a substitute for someone else. Those of you on this list who read romances, which is a genre of popular fiction with a remarkable pedigree which sufffers from Rodney Dangerfield syndrome ) know the kind of story I mean. So I started trying to figure out a way that Other-Lois and Other-Clark could meet and be attracted to each other unencumbered by our Lois' memory. That's why I wrote what I did and why I chose the premise I chose. I think since it was an intellectual exercise as much as anything else (I use the word "intellectual" loosely, I assure you) it's not likely it will ever be so easy for me again. I really admire the writers who produce so many stories, and especially the ones who can think on their feet and write extemporaneously on-line. I experience brain freeze under those circumstances.;) This was probably more than you wanted to know ;) - thanks for the chance to ramble. :) Georgia ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:56:45 +0000 Reply-To: dor2302@usa.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Doris Schmill Subject: Round Robin: Hey Baby [0 ... 3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT January 23, 1998 Hey, Guys! I love this idea. Hope it's OK to jump on the band wagon and join the fun writing. This is the kind of thing I find really hard to resist. So if joining in this RR was *not* the idea of this posting, I'll try and accept a cyberthwapping gracefully. I wonder where this story will lead ... Doris > Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 08:25:45 +0100 > Reply-to: heinemann@s-direktnet.de > From: Andreas Heinemann > Subject: Round Robin: Hey Baby [0..2] > To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU > Brad - you asked for it - here you go. > > Round Robin: Hey Baby [1]: Gary > > -- the pilot --- > > Lois and Clark were about to enter the Daily Planet when a lady > bumped into Clark. > > "Sorry." she mumbled with her head down and a tissue in her hand. > > Clark, stunned by the bump didn't say anything. Lois looking back > from the door to see what kept her husband, noticed a piece of paper > at Clark's feet. > > Lois came over and picked it up. Reading it quickly, she asked, > > "Did that woman drop this?" > > "I guess so." Clark shrugged. > > ---NEXT--- > > Round Robin: Hey Baby [0 - completely unaware and mostly innocent > ;-) ]: > > Brad at The Gardner Family > > --- innocence --- > > Sheena, > It's been a while and it felt so good to hold you in my arms > last night. I miss you already and I can't wait for you to > come home. Love your ever loving boyfriend Brad. > > ---NEXT--- > > Round Robin: Hey Baby [2] Andreas > > --- wild tangents --- > > "So what do you make out of it ?" Lois asked her beloved husband > after reading the message aloud. > > "So, what ?" he responded, "what's just a romantic boy happy to hold > ..." > > "Clark, get a grip. You may play the innocent farmboy in Kansas if > you like. But here in Metropolis you should try to be a top > investigating reporter, determined to get all the clues out of this > secret code. I know you have the bite if you like," Lois fumed. > > "So 'It's been a while' means that they have been waiting for > some time, if that is what you are thinking of," Clark surrendered, > knowing for better than trying to get rag & bones out of the fangs > of mad dog Lane in action. > > "You know," she continued, "they say one thing and mean the other or > play with different meanings of the words or - Brad at the Gardner > familiy - they write it down blatantly blunt. Clark, That's the > Gardner family - the mafia ! And Brad, their Godfather's offspring > signed this message !" > > "Lois, that's a wild tangent." Clark interjected, "The Gardner > family is respected. They have done so much good - you know > the Gardner shelter for (ex-) evil cult members, the broke evil > overlords refunds organisation and so much more. They are > celebrities in our town. You don't think that would be just - > masquerade ? However they seemed to be close friends to Mindy Church > at the last annual Lex Luther remembrance charity ball - organised > by CostMart - Hmm" > > "You slowly get the hint. Let's see. '... it felt so good to hold > you in my arms last night.' Well ... Oh Clark, " Lois realised, 'in > ... arms'. 'IN ARMS' - They are waiting for weapons ! Or he was > happy to hold her in his arms. He held her in check of his weapons. > He was aiming at her !" > > "Nah, Lois," her husband reminded her, "that doesn't have to have > this meaning." > > "But Clark, he missed her," Lois insisted, "that means that he may > still be going for Sheena. I just hope she knows that's coming for > her - that he's pretty serious about her ! " > > "Ok, next clue, " Clark surrendered, " last night - the > opposite would be - tomorrow." > > "Carver, and his dreaded Tomorrow. Sorrows never die !" Lois > exploded, "if i ever get my hands on that devil again, i'm > gonna squeeze him and squeeze him 'til the evil grins !" > > "Lois, i am sorry for Paris", Clark tried to comfort her as > tears slowly formed in her eyes, "we all know you two were > pretty close, just if you had shared your childhood." > > "Wasn't Brosnan into a bond thing to protect her ?", > Jimmy interjected. > > "It's a shame that they might get away with it", Perry > concluded. > > "No, they won't. Paris and i have often been asked if we > were twins looking so much alike the other in our youth. > So the decided to change our hairs every now and then to > point out our individuality. I will take her place and get to > the ground. " > > "You might get to the ground of the themse that way, " Clark > thought to himself and said " I am with you, Lois. We owe > Paris truth and justice." > > "zero zero naught - you most naughty agent in service of > her majesty, " Lois vowed, " I'm gonna slap your face for > sure the next time i meet you." > > ---NEXT--- > > Round Robin: Hey Baby [03] - Doris --- picking up the trail --- "You really think you have found a fresh trail there, don't you?" The old newshound seemed to sniff the air carefully while giving his ace reporter, Mad Dog Lois Lane, a scrutizing look. "Well, since things are somewhat slow at the moment ..." "Chief, we don't really know if there is anything more to this note than meets the eye," Clark interjected. Then, noticing that Lois was beginning to fume, he quickly added, "I do trust Lois's instincts. But it could really just be the note from one lover to the other." "Or you two could end up unearthing something really hot. There has been talk of an underground arms ring for some time. In fact, Inspector Henderson called me this very morning, asking if I could spare you for an investigation that may or may not yield results." Lois and Clark each drew in a sharp breath and looked at each other. Then Lois spoke up. "Henderson has a fine nose for the scent of a good story. If it's all right with you, I think we should pick up the trail as long as it is still fresh. I'll get ready as Paris ..." "No, you won't!" Both Clark and Perry chorused. There was a long moment of silence. Then both man laughed. "You first, Chief." "If this is really what Henderson, and obviously you, too, Lois, think it is, this situation is far too dangerous to pulling of any masquerade singlehandedly. All I want you to do for now is do some prelimenary work. Then lets get back together and decide what to do. If you take on that story, I want you on it together, like Siamese twins." "Or Siamese cats," Lois mumbled under her breath. "I'm allergic to them." "What was that?" Perry asked while Clark silently groaned and roled his eyes heavenwards. "Lois still has to write up the article on the cat show you had her cover last week," Clark quickly interupted. "But I'm sure that can wait another day or so, can't it, Chief? And I totally agree with you. If we take this on, we'll stick together in this one." Perry considered this for a moment, then laid a hand on each of his top reporter team's shoulders. "Well, if we're all in agreement, then what are you two waiting for?" With that, he gently turned them around and steered them back towards the elevators. ****** Down in the lobby, Lois and Clark came to a halt by the doorway. Quickly developing a plan of action, they decided that Lois would meet up with Henderson while Clark would make a super-round. They kissed goodbye quickly and parted. Clark followed his wife out onto the street and looked after her as she made her way to the car. Then, unable to shake an uneasy feeling in the pit of his stomach, he ducked into the nearest corner, spun into the suit. Following his instincts as Lois had taught him, he spontaneously decided that this particular super-round would put him on the trail of a certain female reporter. He caught up quickly with the familiar jeep as it neared the intersection, flying high enough, though, to stay out her sight. And sure enough, the turn she took wouldn't take her to police headquarters. NEXT at dorisschmill@gmx.net or dor2302@usa.net or cschmill@zedat.fu-berlin.de ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:14:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Round Robin: Hey Baby [0..2] In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:22 AM -0800 1/23/98, Peace Everett wrote: >This was hilarious!!! LOL!!! > >Well, Brad, now you've seen the beginning of a round robin -- we look >forward to your next contribution! > >Peace I have to agree here ... Andreas, you have a way with the tongue-in-cheek genre. That was hysterical. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:29:32 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Zoomway Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: The Soulmates Chronicle Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Annie (Lansbury) and I were gabbing one night on the IRC about whatever past lives Lois and Clark might have had as 'soulmates'. We thought there were infinite possibilites. Well, at least enough so that this could be its own 'subset' of L&C fanfic. This isn't being put together to take anything away form separate fanfics dealing with the 'soulmate' aspect of the show, just a fun project for whomever is interested. Here's the guidelines Annie set up: "Dear Friends, It is my understanding I am to write an outline of what is to be included in the possible prologue and epilogue of each SoulMate Chronicles So here are my thoughts on them........ The prologue is set in the place where are all souls converge including the souls of Lois and Clark. There they are together until a situation deems it necessary they separate. Once the situation resolves itself their souls return back when their bodies no longer cease to be. All dialogue between the two can be joking, flirty, serious, but always loving. What we have seen and loved about Lois and Clark will be included in all earthly bodies their souls encase. The catch phrase of the series......could be..."You are always leaving but....I always come back".. I hope this will be helpful. If not let me know and I will try again. Annie" Anyway, if anyone is interested in contributing to this little project, let us know. I'm at Zoomway@aol.com and Annie is at Lansbury1@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:26:32 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: 5 FAVORITE FANFICS (FINALLY) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello FoLCs: The new posts have finally stopped, so I finished compiling and organizing your choices for the "best" fanfics available. The results are as follows: A List of Favorite Fanfics (A Starting Point for Newbies, and a Great Review for Us All!) A Special THANK YOU to all who responded to my request. Contributions received by: Laurie, Gary Rudick, Pat, Geneviev, Crystal, Peace, Jenny Stosser, AMCiotola, Debby Berg, Farah, Demi, Anne, Michelle Glenn, Erin Klinger, Marlene, Margaret Brignell, Aly a Mondelli, Deborah M., Adrienne Vukovic, Brad Gardner, Kathy Brown, Sharon Gilbert, Stefanie Slifer, Doris Schmill, (my apologies to anyone I have misspelled or left out!) * Many stories were mentioned more than once, as I suspected would be the case. I have listed them in alphabetical order to keep my sanity, and listed the number of times they were mentioned next to it. * Many nfics were mentioned. These will be posted on a seperate list with "nfic" in the subject, so e-mails can be deleted appropriately. Author Title Received 8 Mentions: Mulder, Chris Love Beyond All Measure / Dimentions of Loving Received 7 Mentions: Demi Heaven's Prisoners Received 6 Mentions: Brown, Kathy Camping With Clark Mulder, Chris Meet Me in Kansas City Zoomway Counter Clark Wise Received 5 Mentions: Stark, Debbie The Dawning Series Received 4 Mentions: Harper, Sheila A Shot in the Dark Jernigan, Pam President Kent (the Series) Zoomway Cyberlink Received 3 Mentions: Baker, Jennifer Oh What a Wicked Web We Weave Brodgen, Jeff Kansas Vacation Harper, Sheila Myxisplit / All Myxed Up Klinger, Erin When You Needed Me Most Medos, BB Lois Revenge / Clark's Response Stark, Debbie Carry Tiger to Mountain Stone, Susan Aliens and Strangers Zoomway It's About Time Zoomway 12:01 Mentioned 2 Times: Baker, Jennifer Heartbeat Brignell, Margaret The Day Superman Died Brignell, Margaret The One Brignell, Margaret The Rules Brodgen, Jeff Regeneration Jernigan, Pam Second Chances KMcstr The Long Road Medos, BB In The Beginning Piper The Heir: Return Rempel, Audrey Clark and Lois: The Alternate Adventures Stark, Debbie The Swap Meet Series Vixen Pas de Deux / Menage a Troix Whitehall, Angela Hark! Zoomway Always Something There to Remind Me Zoomway You Made Me Love You Mentioned 1 Time: Belle, Kathy The Day After Christmas Brignell, Margaret Clark, Who? Brignell, Margaret The Long Road Brink, Rhen Eight oh Three Catano, Evelyn A Matter of the Heart DeCaro, Marcia Meeting Buddy Eagen, Jennifer Desperately Seeking Lois Eagen, Jennifer It Happened All Summer Eileen The Perfect Gift Farwell, Jennifer Dust in the Wind Gorschboth, Lori Strange Bedfellows Hubert, Carla Quick Change Jernigan, Pam Going to the Chapel Jernigan, Pam What Dreams May Come Ladee V My Three Sons Ladee V At Last Ladee V A Battle of Wills Lane, Dave Ten Little Things Lefkowitz, Gail Home Maintenance McGinnis, Louette Turning Point Love, Lynda Two Roses Manning, Deborah Rubber Duckie Pace, Annemarie Gemini Peace Survive Pistorius, Ben The Flash Rao, Bhavani Band Raglan, Leigh Clarkie: A Lois and Clark Thanksgiving Raglan, Leigh Reminiscing Raglan, Leigh Underneith the Cape Ring, Michael Long Road to Utopia Rufus Thoughts that Bless Sitko, Cory A Little Incentive Smith, Rachel That the World May Know Uberg, Kari Join 'Em Wampler, Sandra Jean Future Forms Wood, Sarah And the Answer Is... Zoomway Cruise Control Zoomway Contact Zoomway Dirty Bubbles Zoomway If You Can't Beat 'Em Zoomway Great Shades of Elvis Zoomway Wheels of Justice Once again, a special thank you to all of these wonderful authors that keep us reading. Crystal ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:31:44 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: nfic: 5 FAVORITE FANFICS (FINALLY) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This listing of "favorite fanfics" contains nfic titles. If you do not wish to read such information, please delete this file and do not read any further. If you wish to have this information, scroll down... Hello FoLCs: This is the "complete" list of fanfics that you have chosen as your favorites. It does contain nfic titles, so be forwarned . The list received was as follows: Favorite Fanfics, including NFics (A Starting Point for Readers OVER 18) It was requested that I not include these to the posted list, but I don't feel that the list is complete without commending the authors of these great stories. I can list them, but I can't tell you where to find all of them ... I'm afraid you're on your own . A Special THANK YOU to all who responded to my request. Contributions received by: Laurie, Gary Rudick, Pat, Geneviev, Crystal, Peace, Jenny Stosser, AMCiotola, Debby Berg, Farah, Demi, Anne, Michelle Glenn, Erin Klinger, Marlene, Margaret Brignell, Alyssa Mondelli, Deborah M., Adrienne Vukovic, Brad Gardner, Kathy Brown, Sharon Gilbert, Stefanie Slifer, Doris Schmill, (my apologies to anyone I have misspelled or left out!) Author Title Received 8 Mentions: Mulder, Chris Love Beyond All Measure / Dimentions of Loving Received 7 Mentions: Demi Heaven's Prisoners Received 6 Mentions: Brown, Kathy Camping With Clark Mulder, Chris Meet Me in Kansas City Zoomway Counter Clark Wise Received 5 Mentions: Harper, Sheila Faster than a Speeding Bullet Stark, Debbie The Dawning Series Received 4 Mentions: Harper, Sheila A Shot in the Dark Jernigan, Pam President Kent (the Series) Zoomway Cyberlink Received 3 Mentions: Baker, Jennifer Oh What a Wicked Web We Weave Brodgen, Jeff Kansas Vacation Brown, Kathy Winners Gorn Consummate Revelation Harper, Sheila Myxisplit / All Myxed Up Klinger, Erin When You Needed Me Most McDermin, Sandy Love as a Blonde Medos, BB Lois Revenge / Clark's Response Menolly The Dayz Series Peace and Piper The Heir: Healing Stark, Debbie Carry Tiger to Mountain Stone, Susan Aliens and Strangers Zoomway It's About Time Zoomway 12:01 Mentioned 2 Times: Baker, Jennifer Heartbeat Brignell, Margaret The Day Superman Died Brignell, Margaret The One Brignell, Margaret The Rules Brodgen, Jeff Regeneration Jernigan, Pam Second Chances KMcstr The Long Road McDermin, Sandy Something's Missing Medos, BB In The Beginning Piper The Heir: Return Rempel, Audrey Clark and Lois: The Alternate Adventures Stark, Debbie The Swap Meet Series Vixen Pas de Deux / Menage a Troix Whitehall, Angela Hark! Zoomway Always Something There to Remind Me Zoomway You Made Me Love You Mentioned 1 Time: Belle, Kathy The Day After Christmas Brignell, Margaret Clark, Who? Brignell, Margaret The Long Road Brink, Rhen Eight oh Three Catano, Evelyn A Matter of the Heart DeCaro, Marcia Meeting Buddy Eagen, Jennifer Desperately Seeking Lois Eagen, Jennifer It Happened All Summer Eileen The Perfect Gift Farwell, Jennifer Dust in the Wind Geraud, Barbara A Christmas to Remember Gorn Going, Going, Gone Gorn One and Only Gorschboth, Lori Strange Bedfellows Herwood, Molly A Family Secret Hubert, Carla Quick Change Jernigan, Pam Going to the Chapel Jernigan, Pam What Dreams May Come Ladee V My Three Sons Ladee V At Last Ladee V A Battle of Wills Lane, Dave Ten Little Things Lefkowitz, Gail Home Maintenance Linda / Lillonely All Work and No Play Manning, Deborah Crazy / Turnabout / Anniversary Waltz McElhaney, Lori Fantasy Series McGinnis, Louette Turning Point Love, Lynda Two Roses Manning, Deborah Rubber Duckie Medos, BB Sanctuary Menolly The Private Life of Clark Kent Melaragni, Dom San Fransisco Sweeties Pace, Annemarie Gemini Peace Survive Pistorius, Ben The Flash Rao, Bhavani Band Raglan, Leigh Clarkie: A Lois and Clark Thanksgiving Raglan, Leigh Reminiscing Raglan, Leigh Underneith the Cape Ring, Michael Long Road to Utopia Rufus Thoughts that Bless Sitko, Cory A Little Incentive Smith, Rachel That the World May Know Uberg, Kari Join 'Em Wampler, Sandra Jean Future Forms Wood, Sarah And the Answer Is... Zoomway Cruise Control Zoomway Contact Zoomway Dirty Bubbles Zoomway If You Can't Beat 'Em Zoomway Great Shades of Elvis Zoomway Wheels of Justice Once again, a special thank you to all of the wonderful authors that keep us reading. We couldn't manage without you . Crystal ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:50:01 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: 5 FAVORITE FANFICS (FINALLY) In-Reply-To: <2d2ab374.34cae92a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Crystal, First off -- this is a great list -- thanks for taking the time to compil= e it! I would like to piont out a few things, however > Stark, Debbie The Swap Meet Series Debby spells her name with a y not ie, and Swap Meet was a pair of stories written with Margaret Brignell, who should also be mentioned here= . > Whitehall, Angela Hark! I think it's Walthall not Whitehall. That's all! Peace ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:00:57 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: 5 FAVORITE FANFICS (FINALLY) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-25 02:53:32 EST, you write: << I would like to piont out a few things, however > Stark, Debbie The Swap Meet Series Debby spells her name with a y not ie, and Swap Meet was a pair of stories written with Margaret Brignell, who should also be mentioned here. > Whitehall, Angela Hark! I think it's Walthall not Whitehall. >> Thank you so much for the corrections. In the process of transcribing, organizing, and retyping I did make some errors. My apologies to Debby and Angela. I promise not to do it again . Thanks again. Crystal ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:17:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: 5 FAVORITE FANFICS (FINALLY) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Mentioned 1 Time: >Belle, Kathy The Day After Christmas One other correction ... no e on the end of Bell. Also, your list of nfics was a repeat of the regular fanfic list. I think you just forgot to finish the message before sending it. :) Great job, Crystal! Thanks for compiling all of these! Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:00:00 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: 1/25/98 WEEKLY UPDATE - KATHY'S CHALLENGE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" New this time is the THEMES section. I decided on using the heading THEMES [labeled with T#] to distinguish these category-related inquiries from questions pertaining to a specific story someone can't remember or can't find because they don't know the author. I'm listing submitters and respondents for now just to see how it goes, on the premise that it might be more helpful in actually finding the stories. However, that may change if it turns out to be unnecessary. I intend to list each response as it comes in and depend on our fanfic EXPERTS [ahem, you all know who you are ] to let me know if a story does NOT belong on a particular theme category. Beverly :-) KATHY'S CHALLENGE SUMMARY [as of this posting & working backwards] #. trivia clue = fanfic title [author] submitted by : correct responses *all responses listed as recieved, right or wrong NOTE: Items labeled with I# are inquiries about fanfics someone is trying to find, not where they already know the titles, T# are questions related to general category-related stories. NOTE: An inquiry or a challenge won't be counted as solved unless the *original* submitter confirms the answer, just to be fair and accurate. Theme responses will be considered valid unless our panel of experts decides otherwise. NOTE: Unless otherwise noted as *nfic* [distributed by Debby's nfanfiction list] OR *private* [distributed privately by author], all fanfics discussed are available at the LOIS & CLARK FANFICTION ARCHIVE at: *****STILL TO BE SOLVED OR CONFIRMED***** Just ignore the next two lines, they're simply to save my sanity. Next new challenge will be #25 Next new inquiry will be #I 8 Next new theme will be #T 2 THEMES: T 1. How many stories have had Lois getting amnesia = ? submitted by: Pam Jernigan responses - none so far INQUIRIES: I 7. list all the cars that have been mentioned in various stories = ? Peace Everett : I 6. Lois and Clark had to move to the Arctic Circle because for some reason they could no longer lead a normal life in Metropolis = ? Alyssa : I 4. Clark gives Lois a Superman bra = ? Beppo : *Joan - COMFORTABLE AS AN OLD SHOE *Loir - COMFORTABLE AS AN OLD SHOE [Lara E. Taylor (Chyronguru@aol.com)] I 3. Lois & Clark go film a commercial for the DP = ? Beppo : *Joan - TOP BANANA [?] *Pat - TOP BANANA [?] I 1. Superman teddy for Lois made by Martha = ? Pat : I S. All stories which refer to teddies = ? Peace Everett : CHALLENGES: 20. Lois tells Lucy that Clark is Superman = ? Peace : 17. "Excel with X-El" + "'Who ever said I was nice?' Clark teased." = ? Peace : Michelle : JIMMY X [?] *****EVERYTHING PAST THIS POINT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED SOLVED***** INQUIRIES: I 5. an undercover Clark purchasing a kidnapped Lois in an auction = BLACKMAIL [?] Tracy : Bec *Bec - BLACKMAIL [?] I 2. Lois & Clark shooting a music video = MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] Nethra : Joan, Bec, Patricia *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Bec - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Patricia - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [?] CHALLENGES: 24. Clark "mortgages his underwear" for a small red Lotus = HEAVEN'S PRISONERS [Demi] Anne : Patricia, Chris Patricia - HEAVEN'S PRISONERS [Demi] Chris - HEAVEN'S PRISONERS [?] 23. Lois sing songs from the "The Sound of Music" in the shower = TRIAL AND ERROR [Kim Gammello] LoriMcE : Bec *Bec - TRIAL AND ERROR [Kim Gammello] 22. "I'm going to start calling him Brenda if you don't start working." = QUICK CHANGE [Carla Humbert] Pam : Linda *Linda - QUICK CHANGE [Carla Humbert] 21. Clark buys daisies and a rose, all for Lois + cheese and a Lincoln Town Car = MERRY-GO-ROUND [Peace] Peace : Sheila Sheila - MERRY-GO-ROUND [Peace] 19. Since this fine review [of TOMORROW NEVER DIES] was written by the critic for the Kansas City Star, which fanfic featured Clark as editor of this paper = MEET ME IN KANSAS CITY [?] Pat : Mandi, Joan *Mandi - MEET ME IN KANSAS CITY [?] *Joan - MEET ME IN KANSAS CITY [?] 18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with *Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence. = BEEFCAKE [Phil Atcliffe] Peace : Bec *Bec - BEEFCAKE [Phil Atcliffe] 16. Sam figures out Clark is Superman ... and orders him away from his daughter! = THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS [Kathy Bell] Kathy : Bec *Bec - THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS [Kathy Bell] 15. Clark works the kissing booth = MISSING YOU [Kaytee Shultz] Kathy : Bec *Bec - MISSING YOU [Kaytee Shultz] 14. Chocolate Milk, a three year old who doesn't speak English, and a woman who can't have children... A FREAK ACCIDENT [?] Adrienne : Joan *Joan - A FREAK ACCIDENT [?] 13. Claude comes back ... and Lois goes out with him! = MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] Kathy : PJ, Bec *PJ - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] *Bec - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] *Crystal - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixin] 12. Clark goes undercover as a male stripper (and no, it's not an nfic ) = GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] Kathy : Joan, Bec *Joan - GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] *Bec - GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] 11. Lois and Clark play truth or dare = TO TELL THE TRUTH [Gail Lefkowitz] *lost & gone* Kathy : PJ *PJ - TRUTH OR DARE? [?] [but she described the plot!] 10. "Oh, what a night! ... Late December back in '63 ..." = BAND [Bhavani Rao] Kathy : Bec *Bec - BAND [Bhavani Rao] 9. Random drug testing at the Planet = OOPS [Jenny Riecken] Peace : Kathy *Mandi - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - OOPS [?] 8. "Superman is probably straighter than God, actually," Jimmy informed them. "He sure hasn't hesitated to kiss you plenty of times, Lois--Superman, I mean, not God--" = DAWNING, D11 [Debby Stark] Kathy : Alyssa M, Peace *Alyssa - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] *Peace - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." = STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] Becky : Mandi, Kathy *Mandi - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] *Kathy - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" = CULINARY DELIGHTS [?] Becky : Pam *Pam Jernigan - CULINARY DELIGHTS [?] 5. "The Hero" = HEIR: RETURN [Piper] Peace : Becky *Becky - THE HEIR [?] 4. Rapunzel = CYBERLINK [Zoomway] Peace : KathyB, PJ *Kathy - CYBERLINK [Zoomway] *PJ - CYBERLINK [Zoom] 3. rollerblades *and* Lois has a very strange nightmare = ALIEN NATION? [LadeeV] Beverly : Joan *Crystal - GELLATO WITH A TWIST [?] *Mandi - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Kathy - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Joan - ALIEN NATION? [?] 2. horsechestnut shower gel = SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* Beverly : Mandi *Laurie - THE NUTMEG ROOM [MizMollee] *nfic* *Mandi - WHISKEY GALORE [Dom] *nfic* *Mandi - SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* *Ann - one of the NUTMEGs [MizMollee] *nfic* 1. Linda King & . . . Brad Pitt *and* RSVPs for wedding invitations = YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] Beverly : Michelle, Kathy *Michelle - YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [?] *Kathy - YOU DIDN't NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] S. Superman teddy = LOIS' REVENGE [B.B. Medos] Beverly : Peace, KathyB *Peace - LOIS' REVENGE [?] *Kathy - LOIS'REVENGE/CLARK'S RESPONSE [?] ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:09:33 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bsg2351 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Confused Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'm confused. Which ones are the nfic ones? Barb ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:18:58 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: FANFIC! This Drake is No Sitting Duck (1/4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This took me ages to write. Mainly because I wandered off to write other fanfics. What can I say? At a certain point in the story I got seriously stuck (can you guess where?) This takes place somewhere after the "Resurrection" episode during the latter half of season two and before Lois found out that CK=S. It's obviously in an alternate universe to the series. As a result, this story comes with a full second season health warning! Thanks to Lynda Love and Genevieve for taking the time on editing (especially Genevieve for insisting I switch some scenes around) and to Kathy Brown, for teaching me to listen to my editors! This Drake is No Sitting Duck By Leanne Shawler (volterra@sd.znet.com) Her eyelids flickered twice before opening. It took a moment longer for her eyes to focus, but at last the room swam into sharp detail. It was dark, but from the light sneaking between the cracks in the blinds, she guessed it was around midday. "Where am I?" she wondered. She recalled a deafening noise, a great pain, Clark holding her in his arms and then ... Nothing but blackness. Clark. Her brow furrowed and Mayson caught her breath as she remembered seeing the Superman logo peeping from between the popped buttons of his pale blue shirt. In the instant before she lost consciousness, Mayson Drake had discovered Clark was Superman. He had deceived her! Superman equals Clark? She shook her head in disbelief, moaning as sparks of pain bounced around inside her head. It certainly explained his strange behaviour, including the odd departures that Lois Lane took for granted. 'But Lois must know,' Mayson thought to herself. Many questions rose to the forefront of her mind, but she pushed them away as the door opened and a new dilemma presented itself. "Lex!" she gasped. Lex Luthor, bald and dressed in dark combat fatigues, delivered his most charming smile as he approached her bedside. "So you are awake, my dear Ms. Drake." "Where ... where am I?" Mayson's blue eyes reflected her bewilderment. "I thought I was in a hospital." "A hospital?" Lex restrained his amusement. "My dear Mayson, may I call you that? This is my own private clinic, far better than any hospital in Metropolis." "I find it hard to believe that Intergang didn't take over everything of yours when you were put away." Mayson frowned. "You should still be in jail." Mayson struggled to sit up, but she was so weak that a gentle shove from Lex sent her sprawling back into the pillows, panting. "Mayson, you have been ... ill," Luthor accented the word oddly, "for quite some time. I'm out on parole, living the life of a reformed citizen." "How long have I been here?" Mayson asked, dazed by both her weakness and the length of time she'd been unconscious. "That's not important," Lex told her, dismissing the subject with a short wave of his hand. "What is important is that I have saved your life and you owe me." "I owe you nothing!" Her eyes sparked with indignation, her chest heaving as she tried to catch her breath. "No?" Luthor appeared unfazed by her resistance. "Let me tell you a little story." He settled himself on the edge of her bed and folded his hands on his lap. He looked utterly relaxed, yet oddly concentrated, his brown eyes fastened appraisingly on her face. He looked so different from the old, suave businessman, his handsome looks marred by his complete baldness. When Mayson had interviewed him for the trial before the Resurrection case came up, she had found him a broken man, but obviously something had occurred since then to rejuvenate his ambition. In her current helpless state, Mayson was more than a little scared. Not that she was about to show it. "Once upon a time," began Lex pleasantly, although his eyes were cold, "there was a pretty blonde Assistant D.A. who got too close to discovering the secret of a crazy scientist who wanted to destroy all of Metropolis. No one," snarled Lex suddenly, "destroys something that I *want*." He composed himself and continued. "This scientist thought it would be a great joke if he made it appear that this Assistant D.A. had died in a car explosion, but really she would die much later, slowly and painfully by asphyxiation in her coffin, buried under six feet of earth." Mayson's breath caught painfully in her throat, imagining herself in that enclosed space, slowly running out of air. Her eyes wide with fear, she gasped, "Resurrection!" "Precisely, my dear." Lex's eyes showed his amusement. "But then why am I--? Then how--?" "I still have some people loyal to me, and at my instructions, they ensured your removal from your coffin after the funeral and brought you here. As it so happened, the explosion caused some damage, but I was prepared for that. Now you have recovered and are ready to serve me." "Don't be so sure on that last part, Luthor," Mayson replied, raising her chin in determination. "Oh, but I am," Luthor leant forward and gently caressed her cheek. Mayson flinched and received a quiet "tsk, tsk" for her troubles. Lex straightened up. "For you see, Ms. Drake, as well as having received nutrition intravenously, these past few weeks, you have also been injected with a poison currently rendered inactive by the presence of its antidote." Mayson's eyes went wide with horror, and an almost silent "no!" escaped her lips. "When you go out from here to do my bidding, your body will contain a biological time-bomb, tick-ticking away until, mission completed, you return here and receive the antidote. If you fail, you die." In her current weakened state, Mayson could only play along. "What ... what is it that you want me to do?" "That's my girl!" Lex smiled in approval. "I want you to kill Lois Lane." "Lois?" Mayson was stunned. "If she won't have me, then no one will have her." "But how? I can't--" He patted her hand reassuringly, at that time curled into a fist of frustration by her side. "Don't worry, my dear. All will be revealed in time. Now you need to rest and recover your strength. You're going to need it." He rang the buzzer by her bedside. Immediately, a nurse entered, bearing a covered tray. "Sleep well." Lex rose and studied the now clearly frightened Mayson Drake watch the nurse prepare an injection. He remained to see the needle slide beneath her skin, before leaving. Mayson winced slightly. Mayson was smart. Before she drifted off into unconsciousness, she knew already that Lex had no intention of giving her the antidote whether or not she managed to successfully kill Lois. She had to play along for now. Play along, and find some way, somehow, of getting that antidote. **** Mayson Drake stood at the door to freedom -- or death. Beside her stood Luthor, deadly serious as he handed her a briefcase. "You know your instructions," said Luthor. "Lure Lois to Kent's apartment. Then," his voice became softer, awed, "BOOM!" His hands moved outwards, in mimicry of the explosion. "And this time it will be Clark Kent behind bars, not I." Mayson looked down at the briefcase: it had CK initialled in gold into the leather. She gave a little shiver. 'All right,' she thought, 'so Clark was a liar, but that didn't mean he deserved the fate Luthor had planned for him.' "I don't understand why you need me for this," protested Mayson. "This is your initiation, Mayson, my dear." His hand cupped her cheek. This time Mayson didn't flinch, but after a moment she lowered her eyes from his rapine gaze. "My people will be loyal to me and me only. No outside interference and that includes your little passion for Kent. The world thinks you're dead. Let it remain so -- and you shall personally remove the last temptation for coming back to life." He moved in and kissed her hard before breaking it off, giving Mayson no time to react. "You *are* mine." Mayson backed off, her eyes widening like a startled rabbit's and stood quivering until she reasserted her self-control. She knew he meant as his slave, for his heart, such that it was, still clearly belonged to Lois. Straightening her back and squaring her shoulders, she grasped the briefcase firmly and walked out the door opened by Luthor's minion. He closed the door and turned to Luthor. "What if she betrays us?" he asked. "Then," Lex paused dramatically, "she will die and we'll find another way of dealing with Mr. Kent." He arched his eyebrows as he smiled. **** Mayson Drake stepped out of the yellow cab and boldly strode into the Daily Planet building. Moments later, she stepped out of the elevator and looked down into the busy newsroom. There was Clark, his eyes focused on the monitor, typing up a story. Watching him unseen like this, Mayson had one breathless moment of seeing him as the man she adored -- Clark Kent -- before the image of Superman superimposed itself. Her face, if anyone had been watching, was as soft and open as the first time Mayson had asked Clark out. She could hardly believe her audacity then or now. With the thought of Superman, her face transformed into a quickly masked look of betrayal and anger. Mayson damped these feelings down; they could be sorted out later, but now she needed Clark's -- Superman's -- help. Straightening her shoulders, Mayson walked down the gangway. Jimmy, on his way to Perry's office with a handful of copy, did a double-take when he saw the slim blonde, but he shook his head and continued on. Nobody else in the bustling newsroom noticed her. She stepped up to Clark's desk and stood for a moment, clutching the briefcase tightly with both hands, waiting for him to notice her. Finally, Mayson glanced over her shoulder to check if Lois was at her desk. Mayson hadn't even noticed whether she was there or not on her way in, her eyes fixed upon Clark. She wasn't at her desk. Mayson bent over Clark's desk, her figure casting a shadow over his keyboard. She cleared her throat quietly. "Clark? Is there some place private we can talk?" Clark looked up, startled, his brown eyes widening with shock as he matched the voice with the face. "Mayson!?" he exclaimed. Mayson hushed him. "Please, Clark? This is very important." Clark stumbled to his feet. 'Why does he do that?' Mayson wondered. 'Superman shouldn't stumble.' "Uhh, sure," he said. "Through here. " He led Mayson into the conference room. Alone in the conference room, Clark sat down awkwardly, and gestured Mayson to a seat. Mayson shook her head and started to pace. "You remember, don't you." Clark said finally. "If you mean about you being Superman, yes!" Mayson's eyes flashed. Clark thought it was the light. She took a deep breath. "Just *what* do you think you are playing at?" "Huh?" Clark was taken aback by her vehemence. "This Superman thing! It's the single most egotistical, conceited and pretentious act I've ever seen! Excepting Luthor, of course." "Thanks for the exception." Clark said dryly and his brows beetled into a frown. "Gee, you know the first thing I thought you'd do would be to slap me with a deportation suit." Clark sat up straighter. He'd missed arguing with Lois ... "Well, I thought of that, but one: I'm supposed to be dead and two: where do I deport you *to*?" Mayson folded her arms and glared. "Well, aren't you going to answer my question?" Clark got up and started pacing. "Mayson, I'm not playing at anything. My powers are a gift. I didn't even know I had them until I reached my teens. Until then I was just a normal kid growing up on a farm. Until then I was just like anybody else. Now that I have them, I can't *not* use them. Don't you see that?" "But you're usurping the law! It's vigilantism, pure and simple! You could become a cop ..." Like Clark, Mayson was now standing, arms akimbo, glaring at the super hero. "As Clark Kent? I'm more likely to be shipped off to some lab and dissected like a frog! I want to help serve society to the best of my ability and still have a normal life!" "I don't see you in a lab now." They stared angrily at each other. Lois walked in. Clark angled behind his co-worker and shook his head warningly at Mayson. "Uhh, Lois," he said, "I really don't think--" "Clark, we're a team. We do things together." Lois stated firmly. She marched past him and faced Mayson. "It is Mayson Drake, isn't it?" Lois asked, before she lost the initiative. "Yes," replied Mayson. "It is. I really don't have the time to explain." She ignored Clark's raised eyebrow. "If I don't have Superman's help within 24 hours, I will be dead." Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ ********************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:19:03 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: FANFIC: This Drake is no Sitting Duck (2/4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Lois opened her mouth to make some catty remark, but she didn't need Clark's warning look for her to shut it again without speaking. "I'm sure Superman will do whatever he can, even for those who don't like his vigilantism," Clark said as they all sat around the conference table. "What should I tell him?" "I have poison in my bloodstream." She had to pause to think, in order to frame her sentences carefully without tipping that she knew his secret identity. "Superman has to get the antidote from Luthor's clinic. I'll give you the address." "Luthor!" the reporting duo exclaimed, drowning out her last sentence. "You've seen Lex?" Lois asked, leaning forward on her elbows. "You have his address?" "Yes." Mayson looked at Lois and Clark alternately, wondering at their surprise. "Why are you so keen? He's not a wanted man anymore, Lois, although he's definitely still a criminal!" Lois glanced at her co-worker as Clark replied, "Luthor escaped from prison about a month ago. He hasn't been seen or heard of since. Yours is the first report." Mayson was stunned. "He told me ..." She gave herself an angry shake. "Oh! I should have known he was lying!" She quickly scribbled out the address on a piece of scrap paper and handed the address to Clark, who passed it on to Lois. "Lex told me you solved the Resurrection case. Was he lying about that too?" "No, he wasn't," Clark replied. Mayson saw him glance over at Lois. The fleeting look of concern he gave Lois made Mayson realise that the case had involved a close call. No doubt Superman had saved the day yet again. "OK, I'll make this brief." Mayson quickly detailed her own resurrection and last of all, Lex's plan. "But why?" asked Lois. "To kill you, Lois, and implicate Clark in turn, which once done would leave me firmly in Luthor's hands forever." Mayson's fingernails tapped against the handle of the briefcase. "There's a bomb in here. I'm supposed to lure Lois to your apartment, Clark, and leave this briefcase behind." "So why are you here?" If Lois felt uneasy about the presence of the bomb, she didn't show it. "Lex is a double crosser. I don't trust him to give me the antidote once I complete his task. And even if he did, I don't want to be ensnared either." Mayson took a deep breath. "That's why I need Superman's help. I'm in no rush to die again." "How is Superman going to be able to find the antidote?" Clark asked. "There's only one way to find out." Lois stood and turned to Clark. "Clark, go find Superman and get him to grab the antidote and then meet us at Star Labs." "I'll get right on it." Clark seemed relieved to escape. "Wait, Clark!" Mayson called him back. Clark halted in the doorway. Mayson turned to Lois. "Lois, could I have a couple of minutes alone with Clark?" "Sure." Lois looked strangely at the two of them and left the room, shutting the conference room door behind her. She saw Jimmy and called him over. "Yes, Lois?" "Jimmy, phone ahead to Star Labs and tell them that I'm bringing someone who needs an antidote." Jimmy looked through the conference room window. White-faced, he exclaimed, "Mayson?!" Lois turned her smile on him. "Just do it, Jimmy. I'll explain it all later." Inside the conference room, Clark folded his arms and gazed at Mayson. Mayson looked ashamed. "I'm sorry, Clark, but when I realise that the only reason you were brave enough to be a witness for me was because knew all along that you would be invulnerable to any attack by Intergang..." Mayson shook her head. "I thought you were the bravest, most upstanding man I had ever met. And now ..." Her voice began to tremble. "Now?" Clark's defensive anger had drained away. "And now I don't know what to think. How brave can you be, if you're invulnerable?" "Mayson, why do you think I hide my true identity behind this cape? I'm afraid for the safety of the ones I love ... I don't know my limits and I'm certainly not invulnerable." "Kryptonite." "Yes, Kryptonite." "I'm sorry, Clark." Mayson wearily pushed her blonde hair back from her forehead. "I only know that you're the only one who can help me. You're my only hope. I'm sorry." Clark shook his head. "Dr. Klein is great at unsolved mysteries. I'm sure he can discover a cure for you." He rose and took her gently by the arm. "Come on, Lois is waiting." Lois stood by her desk saw them. She said to Mayson, "If Superman can't find the antidote, Star Labs will start making one." Mayson's thanks were heartfelt, adding, "I don't know if it will be that easy." "Worth a try." Lois attempted a smile. **** Dr Klein took a sample of Mayson's poisoned blood which he hoped would contain some trace of the antidote or the poison. He hoped to find both. Mayson convinced Lois to go back to the Planet while she pretended to continue to carry out Lex's plan. Lois Lane wasn't happy to let the revived Mayson out of her sight so soon, but she had gathered enough facts during the test to get started on her story. Lois was also looking forward to seeing Clark back at the Planet and finding out exactly what had been said in that conference room. The door to Clark's apartment was unlocked. Opening it slightly, Mayson tapped lightly on the door and entered to find Superman sitting on the couch with his face in his hands. Putting down the briefcase at the head of the short flight of stairs, Mayson went to him, touching him lightly on the shoulder. "Clark?" He jumped. "Sorry," Mayson apologised softly. "I couldn't get close to it, Mayson." Clark turned his sorrowful face up to her. Mayson sat beside him heavily, her face pale. "The place is ringed with Kryptonite." Gingerly, Mayson put her arm around the superhero. "Star Labs have a sample of my blood. Hopefully, they'll be able to determine and reproduce the antidote," Mayson said hopefully. "I've left a message for Lois," Clark told her. "Mayson, I'm sorry. I've failed you again." "Again? What do you mean?" Hesitatingly, Clark told her. "I heard this odd ticking sound ... when I realised what it was and that it was coming from your car ... I just didn't move fast enough." "Dying in your arms wasn't so bad." Mayson's smile was shaky at best. "Later, when I realised who you really were, I did wonder why you, with your superspeed, didn't reach me in time." The expression of pain on Clark's face almost made Mayson regret that she had asked -- but she needed to know. "For the first time, I was being loved by Lois as Clark, not Superman. She still doesn't know that's who I am. I called out a warning to you, but you never heard. The bomb exploded before I could get there. My head was still spinning from Lois' kiss. I just didn't move as fast I should have. That is why I failed you." Mayson's features froze. "You and Lois are --?" "Things've got complicated. There's this guy called Dan Scardino." Clark looked even more miserable. Mayson could only think of the kiss that cost her her life. She sat silently by his side. **** "Hey baby," Dan's dulcet tones distracted Lois from the disturbing message that had been left for her by Clark. Superman had been foiled by kryptonite. Clark wrote to say he was keeping an eye on Mayson. 'What about helping get the antidote for his blonde amour?' Lois wondered. Clark could be such a dolt at times. Dan tried to get her attention again. "Hey, what's up?" Lois' frown turned into a sweet smile as inspiration hit. "Clark's old girlfriend needs an antidote that Lex has got. I know where and I'm going to get it. You coming?" Lois leapt up and grabbed her coat. "Hold on there." Dan took hold of her arm. "Isn't this a job for Superman?" "He can't get close because there's too much kryptonite." Lois shook her arm free. Sometimes Dan could be so ... "Are you coming or what?" "Let me go alone. Isn't this too dangerous for you?" "Daniel Scardino, you have a lot to learn. There's a story in this." Lois pulled on her coat. Dan followed, keeping pace with her. **** Mayson awkwardly put her arm around Clark's shoulders. "I'm sorry about Lois." Clark slowly relaxed as she spoke. "But I didn't die. I'm here and alive. You can stop feeling guilty about that now." Clark's shoulders shook with barely suppressed emotion, guilt and loss, mingling as one. "Clark?" Mayson held him tighter. "I'm OK. Really." Clark's voice became steadier and he rested his head against her shoulder. "It's just I've kept it locked away ... I already felt like I was going insane, keeping my secret. Thinking about you wasn't helping matters." "I think I'll take that as a compliment," Mayson remarked dryly. "Mayson, I didn't mean --" He raised his head and directed apologetic eyes towards her. "It's all right, Clark." Mayson touched the side of his face and they leaned in to kiss. All of a sudden, the world went blurry to Mayson and her head spun. She reached out uncertainly for Clark but was out cold before he caught her in his arms. *** Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ ********************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:17:47 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: FANFIC: This Drake is no Sitting Duck (3/4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Lois parked her grey Jeep Cherokee half a block down from the building where Mayson had said Luthor was sequestered. "He's in there?" Dan examined the building through binoculars. It was a non-descript brownstone tenement building in the slum sector of Metropolis. Except for one door out the front, it appeared that the entire ground floor was boarded up. "Uh huh," Lois tapped her fingers on the steering wheel. "And we're just going to go in there?" Dan looked worriedly at Lois. Lois rolled her eyes in exasperation. "Of course! How else are we going to get the antidote?" "Lois, I've heard about your history with Lex. Maybe we should let the police handle it? With what Mayson's told you about this plan of Luthor's, you're not safe." "Despite what Mayson said, I don't believe Lex would kill me. He's more devious than that and besides, he's had plenty of time to do so before now." It was the one thing Lois was confident about. Luthor loved her too much to kill her. But in that instant, Lois thought of other fates that Lex might have in mind for her. "If we call in the police, we'll never get the antidote. Lex is far too clever to be caught by the police." Dan gave her a look. Lois sighed. "All right, all right, I'll call." She pulled her mobile phone out of her purse and dialled. "Henderson? Lois Lane here." She listened for a moment. "Yes, I know you haven't got any more information on the singles fraud. I'm calling about something else." Quickly, Lois filled in Inspector Henderson on Lex's new location and hung up before he could make her promise to stay away from Luthor. Lois got out of the car. When Scardino was slow in following suit, she ducked her head back into the car. "Coming?" she asked impatiently. Dan sighed and got out of the car. Someone had to keep an eye on her. How did Kent put up with this? Walking down on the opposite side of the street to Lex's hideout, Dan asked, "Do you have a plan on getting inside?" "You mean you don't?" Lois asked, a playful smile hovering about her lips. Dan surveyed the building front. "No, Lois, I don't. We could be running into a giant trap here." Lois ignored him. It was just like being with Clark, that cautious slowpoke. "There's an alleyway. Let's see if there's an entrance." Dan followed Lois closely as they crossed the street and ducked into a dimly lit alleyway. But for some old boxes and a few pieces of scattered rubbish, the alley was empty. Two-thirds of the way down the alley, before it became a dead end, a metal railing fence leaned dramatically into the alleyway. Hurrying forward, Lois and Dan discovered that it marked off a stairwell which led down to a door. They looked at each other in triumph and descended. Although apparently unguarded, the door was, unsurprisingly, locked. The two of them began to rummage in their pockets. Lois was quicker. "Let me," she said, fishing out her picklocks and expertly fiddling them in the keyhole until the lock unfastened with a barely audible click. "I didn't know you --" Dan whispered, gesturing at Lois' handiwork. "They come in handy." Lois shrugged, unsuccessfully hiding a proud smile as they entered. She tucked the picklocks back into her handbag. It was not much further along when they came across yet another locked door. "Please," said Dan with one of his goofy grins, "allow me." Dan Scardino pulled out an even larger set of picklocks and set to work on the lock. It took him a little longer than Lois, but he proved he was just as adept at breaking-and-entering as she. This second corridor was lined with doors and there was the undoubted smell of ether in the air. Thankfully, the doors had plate glass in them, through which they would be able to peek before sneaking on to the next door. "You take the left and I'll take the right," said Lois. "Right." said Dan. "No, left!" replied Lois. Dan raised his eyes to the heavens. Working systematically as a team, they were able to swiftly cover the subterranean floor. By the time they reached the elevator shaft, the smell of ether still had not been explained as the majority of the rooms had been deserted offices. "That smell has to be coming from somewhere," mused Dan. Lois looked back down the hallway. "Do you think we missed something?" Dan's head turned to follow her gaze. "It's... possible." "But not likely," decided Lois. "Let's keep looking." Lois punched the button besides the elevator. "Uhh ... Lois, do you think that was wise? Shouldn't we have taken the stairs?" He pointed to the fire stairwell. "Why? Nobody knows we're here, so why would they suspect anything?" The elevator doors opened with a loud "ping". Lois grinned triumphantly at Dan as the elevator revealed itself to be empty. They took the elevator up to the next floor, Scardino muttering that it was only one floor so why couldn't they have taken the stairs anyway. Lois ignored him. The coast was clear at the next level, and the two of them proceeded to investigate the area. They searched every level of the three storey building and came up empty. Each room was deserted and had been for a long time. Lois brushed the dust off her sleeves and skirt irritably. She just didn't get it. They headed back to the elevator. "Nothing! There's absolutely nothing!" Lois punched the Down button on the elevator. "Think this Mayson could have given us a bum lead?" asked Dan. "Maybe she *is* in with Lex and trying to lead us away so she can complete whatever nefarious plan Lex has concocted." "Mayson wouldn't do that," replied Lois, frowning as she thought on what Dan had said. "She was the Assistant D.A.! No, there has to be some other explanation for it." "Like what?" The elevator door opened and they entered. "Like ..." Lois went to hit the ground floor button and paused. There was a button for the basement. "Like how about looking below ground?" *** "Mayson? Mayson?" Clark's voice swam in and out of focus along with the blurred contours of his face. "Clark?" Even to Mayson, her voice sounded very far away. "Mayson?!" There was a clear note of panic in his voice. Mayson blinked, finally focusing on Clark's worried face, so close to her own. Clark had changed out of his Superman outfit while she had laid there unconscious and was now wearing a rather rumpled grey suit. Even when I'm dying, thought Mayson, he still looks great. "Wha- what happened?" she asked. "You passed out." "It ... it must be the poison starting to take effect." Clark was almost as pale as she. "Clark ... what I said about you being Superman, I'm ... I'm sorry. I just didn't know the whole story." Clark smoothed a blonde lock off her forehead. "It's OK, Mayson. I understand." Mayson reached up and with trembling fingers caressed Clark's cheek. He seemed so warm, her fingers so cold. "Clark," she whispered, pleadingly, as her hand slid around to the nape of his neck, drawing his face closer. She didn't want to die, not now. Not, at least, without-- Their lips met, brushing lightly, his lips warming her cool ones. The second kiss was less cousinly, Clark kissing her fervently, as if the heat of his kiss could restore health to her body. Mayson blinked rapidly as Clark lifted his head. It was if he was hearing something. "What ... what is it?" Clark looked down at Mayson, so fragile in his arms, his features agonised. Metropolis needed his help, but he couldn't leave Mayson. "Super-hearing?" Mayson prompted. "Yes, I have to--" Clark paused. With relief, he heard on the fire department's radio band that disaster had been averted. Clark gazed down at Mayson and caressed her cheek. "I have to stay here and look after you. You mustn't give up, Mayson. Star Labs will call soon with that antidote." Mayson sighed. "I wish I had your confidence." *** "I'm glad I don't have your confidence," remarked Dan Scardino as he followed Lois out of the elevator and into the pitch-black hallway. Lois ignored him, rummaging in her handbag for her miniature flashlight. "You should be more careful, you never know what, or who, might be out there." "How very true, Mr. Scardino." The overhead fluorescent lights blinked on, temporarily blinding them, but Lois recognised that voice instantly. "Lex," she said. "Indeed, my dear," Lex stepped forward with a charming smile that was as deadly as the gun in his hand. "How nice of you to come visit me." Lois delivered a shaky smile and an even shakier line: "Well, we were in the neighbourhood..." "Now," Lex gestured down the hallway with his gun, "if you'll kindly lead the way ..." Lois gave Dan a worried look. With kryptonite ringing the building, this was one scrape Superman would be unable to get her out of. *** Mayson was curled up with Clark on the sofa, resting weakly against him. The phone rang, startling the two of them. Clark answered the phone on the third ring. "Hello?" "Ah, Mr. Kent, how good of you to be at home," sounded Lex's voice smugly. "Luthor," grated Clark. Mayson sat up, her face white. "Very good, Kent. Now I have a special offer for you. Listen carefully and do exactly what I say or Lois Lane will die." "Lois!" "Clark, you're doing amazingly well on name recognition," Lex chuckled, "but then of course, you are a reporter." "What do you want?" "That's more like it, Kent. Now Ms. Lane has done something smart for once and called in the police before she rather conveniently bumped into me." "Is she all right?!" Clark couldn't keep the terrified note out of his voice. "For the moment and how long that moment lasts, depends upon you." Lex outlined his demands to Clark: "You will order the police to move back two city blocks. In return, I'll hand over Lois and her chum Scardino." "Scardino?" Clark's voice held a mixture of bafflement and disgust. Lex chuckled. "You have an hour." Lex hung up. Clark sat, cradling the dead telephone receiver in his hand. He was totally still, and yet his mind whirled. "Clark?" Mayson touched his shoulder. She was shaky on her feet, yet standing. "Lex has Lois?" "Yes." Clark somehow managed to force out the word between his teeth. "We have to think of something!" Mayson urged. "We only have an hour." Clark turned and looked down at her. Mayson turned to him urgently. "Clark! The briefcase!" For a moment, Clark looked confused and then it hit him. "My God! The bomb! We never defused it!" "It's not set to go off ... I was supposed to set the timer before I left your apartment." Mayson said. "But what if Lex didn't tell the whole truth about that either. "Clark! We have to get rid of it!" Clark immediately obliged by grabbing the briefcase that still stood by the doorway and throwing it up into the heavens. He returned to her side. "We should call the police now," Mayson reminded him. "Yes, but I don't trust Luthor to let Lois go. We have to think of a plan!" Clark started pacing. Mayson sat and watched him. The poison was seriously taking its toll. Mayson felt as weak as a newborn kitten, but she could still think. The phone rang again. Clark grabbed it. "Yes? Doctor Klein!" Clark listened for a moment. "But you're still not quite sure? We'll be right over." "The antidote?" Clark shook his head. "Not quite, but Doctor Klein thinks that just maybe he's close enough to alleviate the poison slightly. It gives us more time, and," Clark smiled, "we'll be able to pick his brains for ideas. The man's brilliant." He spun into his Superman suit. Mayson looked at him in wonder. "Come on. Let's go." *** "You won't get away with this," Lois called from where she was tied up next to Dan Scardino. Seated at a metal desk, Lex looked up from the sheaf of papers that occupied him. "Can't you think of anything more original than that? Very well." He sighed dramatically and glared menacingly. "I can and I will." "The police have this place surrounded, there's no chance for escape, Lex, so why not give it up?" "Lois, my dear, if there was no chance, you would not be alive now. While you live, however ..." His predator's grin sent shivers down her spine. "Now, if you wouldn't mind keeping quiet, I have work to do." Lex returned his attention to the papers. Lois grimaced and started struggling, hoping to loosen the ropes. Dan hissed at her: "Lois, keep still." Twisting to look over her shoulder, Lois gave him a strange look. "We have to get out of here," she whispered to him. Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ ********************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:18:44 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: FANFIC: This Drake is No Sitting Duck (4/4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "I know," he said. "Shhh." "Shhh?!" Lois's response was almost not a whisper and the two of them looked over at Lex, thankful to see that there was no reaction. "I have a plan," confided Dan. "What plan?" demanded Lois in an urgent whisper. "It's on a need to know basis," replied Dan smugly. "Wha -- at?" exclaimed Lois. Again the two of them looked over at Lex. Lois looked back at Dan. "Believe me, I need to know." "Sorry," was Dan's short reply. "I don't think you've got a plan at all," accused Lois. "I think--" "Will you two stop chattering away?" Lex requested casually. "I can hear every word you're saying and you're distracting me from my work." Dan gave Lois a "see?" look and shushed her. Lois sat there, alternately fuming at Lex, Dan and at herself for getting into this mess. *** Superman entered Dr. Klein's laboratory at Star Labs carrying Mayson Drake in his arms. "Doctor Klein!" he called. "You have the antidote?" "Superman!" exclaimed Klein. "What a surprise! I was expecting Clark." Superman lowered Mayson gently to the floor. Mayson swayed but managed to stay upright. "Clark got a call from Luthor about Lois. He asked me to step in and bring Ms. Drake over to you. He's gone down to help out the police." Dr. Klein nodded understandingly. "Yes, yes, I see, I see. And I suppose you'll be dashing off to help Clark deal with Mr. Luthor?" Superman shook his head. "I'm afraid not, Doctor Klein. Lex has Kryptonite." Dr. Klein pulled an indigestive grimace. "Oh." He turned his attention to Mayson. "Come, sit down and let's have another look at you." Mayson did as she was told. As Doctor Klein flashed a penlight into her eyes, she said, "Lex has captured Lois! We must do something!" "Clark Kent is a capable young man." Dr. Klein glanced at Superman who was frowning at some bubbling beakers, "and Lois a resourceful young woman. I'm afraid I'm not qualified with figuring out rescues." He ordered Mayson, "Pump your hand." Mayson did so, feeling the broad flat band tighten as Dr. Klein took her blood pressure. "If only we could figure out a way of rescuing Lois ..." Dr. Klein nodded. "Tricky, tricky." He gazed sorrowfully at them. "Ms. Drake, Superman, I'm afraid that such strategies and tactics are beyond me." Mayson gave a despairing look over at Superman. He looked so closed off and remote, standing with his back to them. They were both utterly helpless in the face of Lex's machinations. Her thoughts churned as Dr. Klein gave her the almost-antidote. She barely felt the needle slip under her skin. "Now, Ms. Drake," Dr. Klein said, breaking her reverie with a hand on her shoulder. "You should start feeling better in an hour or two. Gradually, the effect will start to wear off and you will start feeling ill again. I have to warn you, Ms. Drake, that there may be side-effects. Naturally, we were not given enough time to do a thorough testing, only that it was not as toxic as what it is meant to cure. We'll continue to work on improving the antidote here at the Labs. This is a most unusual poison, most unusual." "Yes, Dr. Klein, I understand." Mayson gave him a brave smile. "Thank you." "Thank *you*," Dr. Klein shook her hand. "You have given us quite a challenge." "Now it's our turn to face a challenge," Mayson said. *** "Mayson, I can't let you do this." Clark, in his Superman costume, slowly landed at street level, a block away from Luthor's hideout. "What other choice do we have?" Mayson asked, trying not to enjoy the sensation of being in his arms too much. This could very well be the last time she would experience it. Reluctantly, she slipped out of his arms. "I'll be all right," she promised him, "and I'll get Lois out safe." Clark stood and watched her walk away, feeling more helpless than he had ever felt before in his life. Mayson walked calmly past the police cordon that Lieutenant Henderson had set up. She walked on to the end of the street. Just as Lois and Dan had found out earlier, gaining access to Luthor's domain was easy. The side door in the alleyway remained unguarded. Shaking slightly with nerves, Mayson made her way down into the basement. Klein's antidote was working like a charm, but she didn't know how long she had before weakness overtook her once more. Once in the basement, she was quickly captured by Luthor's henchmen and brought before Luthor. On the way, through tunnels not normally found under a Metropolis brownstone, Mayson made sure to know the route they had taken. There was the off-chance that she would still be alive at the end of the upcoming confrontation and be able to escape. It surprised her that the journey was so short. "Well, well," drawled Lex, looking up from his papers. "What do we have here?" "Mayson!" gasped Lois, surprised. Mayson swiftly shot her a warning look. Lois quickly added, "I thought you were dead!" "Lex! What is *she* doing here?" Mayson demanded as her guards roughly shoved her closer to Luthor. "She's supposed to be at Clark's apartment!" Lex shrugged "It seems that even the best plans go astray." He dismissed the guards. "Do not disturb us," he ordered them. Lex gazed at Mayson penetratingly. "Now where have you been, my pretty?" "Trying to get up the nerve to do what you ordered," replied Mayson, trying to still her trembling. Smiling, Lex inquired, "Not feeling too well? Or perhaps it's the lies you're telling me." Mayson stood very still. "I've been wondering how coincidental it is that Lois discovers my hideout on the very same day I let you out on to the streets." "I have my sources, Lex," called Lois from the far end of the room, coming to Mayson's rescue. "I've been working on finding your location ever since your escape. It was only a matter of time." Lex raised an eyebrow. "But I did it, Lex," Mayson told him. "I left the bomb in Clark's apartment!" "No!" screamed Lois convincingly. Lex seemed particularly amused by this turn of events. "Hmmm, with Clark Kent out of the picture and the Kryptonite to keep Superman away ..." He paused and turned his gaze upon Lois, who bit her lip. "Yes, Lois, that would mean you would be free -- or should I say *mine* -- without anyone to destroy the wedding this time around." The sound of Lex's laugh chilled Mayson's soul. "I don't think so, Lex," interrupted Scardino, raising his head bravely. "Lois is a woman who makes her own choices and she's here with *me*." Lois, torn between derision and horror at the possible consequences of Dan's statement, opened her mouth to deny it. Before she could, Lex had pulled a gun out of his desk drawer, He pointed it at them. "That can be remedied," Lex said, his voice cold. Lois screamed. "NO!" Lex fired the gun and seconds too late, Mayson sprang into action. With a karate-chop, the gun tumbled out of Lex's suddenly nerveless fingers. Mayson dove for the gun, and came up with it, pointing it defiantly at Lex. "Don't move," she warned. Slowly, Lex raised his hands in the air. "So you did betray me." Mayson kept her eye on him but refused to reply. "Lois? Are you all right?" "I'm fine," Lois choked back a sob. "But Dan ..." Mayson motioned at Lex with her gun. "Keep an eye on him, Lois. Tell me if he moves the slightest inch." "OK," Lois said softly. With the gun still trained on Luthor, Mayson moved over and felt for Dan's pulse. "He's alive," she said with relief. She risked a longer look at him. "It doesn't look good though. We have to get him out of here." "I've a phone in my purse," said Lois. "It's over by the wall." "Thanks, Lois, I'll find it," Mayson said. To Lex, she ordered, "I want you lying on the floor right now." Lex raised his eyebrow. "Do it!" "Mayson, my dear, I believe your hands are shaking," Lex spoke casually. "Could it be that the poison is taking effect?" "If it is, Lex," Mayson growled, aware of her weakness, "I'll have to shoot you twice to kill you and I swear the first time will hurt. Now get down on the floor. Hands behind your head." Lex did as he was told, and Mayson scurried back to the wall. With Lois calling directions, she managed to find the purse and keep an eye on Lex at the same time. Mayson pulled out the phone and dialled. "Henderson. Listen carefully. I have Luthor at gunpoint but the rest of the building is unsecured. Get your men down to the alleyway and you'll find some stairs going down. We're all in the basement. Come armed. And Henderson? I've also got a man down; we need an ambulance!" She paused as Henderson shouted out orders to his men and finally got a word in. "Lois is here, she's ok." Lex, motionless on the floor, said, "You did betray me." "Of course, Lex, what else did you expect?" Mayson was tiring and as a result, angry. "I was the assistant district attorney. How could I break the law?" "You're going to die." "Perhaps," replied Mayson, "but if I do before the police arrive, I'll make sure you'll be dead too." *** Mayson's eyes flickered twice before opening. It took a moment longer for them to focus, but at last the room swam into sharp detail. It was dark, but there was light sneaking between the cracks of the blinds. "You're awake," said a familiar voice. Mayson's eyes focused. "Clark!" Clark patted her hand. "How do you feel?" To her wonder, Mayson felt fine, and said so. "The last thing I remember is seeing Lois and Dan off in the ambulance and then collapsing ..." "I flew you to Star Labs to get another partial antidote," Clark told her. "It was lucky for you that Doctor Klein had perfected it." "Lucky indeed." Mayson took a deep breath. "How is Dan?" "Mending," was Clark's brief reply. "His employers are transferring him to Washington as soon as he's well enough." "And Lois?" Clark sighed sadly. "She was shaken up a little. She hasn't forgiven me for not being there when she needed me." "When are you going to tell her, Clark?" He shrugged. "The doctors say you can be out in a day or two. What are you going to do?" Mayson smiled. "Find a place, see if I can get my old job back." The smile turned into a grin. "Keep Superman on the straight and narrow. What else is there to do?" "Straight and narrow?" Clark asked, a hint of laughter in his voice. "After what you did today?" Mayson smiled ruefully. "Well, straight and narrow*ish*!" THE END. Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ ********************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:48:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: IRC Sounds MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Does anyone know of web pages with IRC sounds? I've lost the bookmark. Thanks, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:00:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Fanfic Awards Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been following this idea with interest, and I'd like to suggest a few categories... (oops, the list grew, so it's now more than a few ) Best Comedy = Best Tearjerker Best Realistic Story (i.e., it had A-plot/B-plot and they coulda shown th= at on screen without messing up any continuity) Best Dramatic Story (it had A-plot/B-plot but it deviated from show continuity) Best Fanboy Story () (it was mostly A-plot) Best Alt-Clark Story (continuation of the Tempus,Anyone/Lois & Clarks alternate universe) Cleverest Title (titles are my weak point, and I really admire people who= can come up with punny or succinct or just flat-out clever titles) Best Cliffhanger Resolution (we could subdivide this by season, if needed= ) Best Revelation/Lois Best Revelation/Others Best Wedding Story Best Pregnancy/Delivery Story Best L&C&kids Story Best Alternate Beginnings (i.e., all the various other ways our fav. couple could have met for the first time) Best Alternate Episode (i.e., where authors have taken elements of an aired episode and reworked it to go in a different direction) Best Early Years Story (young Clark or young Lois) Best Punchline (where the author sets you up to assume one thing, then surprises you) Best Series Best Series Continuation (fifth season) Best Music/Poem Adaptation (writing a fic around a song or in the form of= a poem) I can't think of any others at the moment... I think all the "themes" tha= t are listed on the archive should be represented here, but I may have forgotten some. I kinda liked the idea of breaking things down by story length, as Leanne mentioned, but I think we have too many stories to judg= e a "best short (1-3part) story" and not enough to judge "best short comedy= " "best short tearjerker" etc. Make sense? Any comments? Have we gotten tired of this idea already? PJ !^NavFont02F05F00007MGHHLF29D1C E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 26-Jan-1998 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: now at: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ as mentioned in SciFi Entertainment magazine ~~~~~ "Bloom, close, kick 'em in the head." (Fraser teaches Ray how to swim, Due South) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:00:47 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Author Motivations Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 *WARNING* This is a long, self-absorbed post Zoomway was wondering what motivated other fanfic writers to write... = Money. No, no, not really The most general answer I can give, is that writi= ng is like a disease. Once you have it, you're stuck, and you *have* to wri= te to keep the other symptoms in check. Symptoms? you ask warily, backing away oh-so-subtly... Well, I mean, a writer gets ideas in his/her head, a= nd they just won't go away until they're written down. So if you ever hope = to have spare brain cells for, I dunno, work... you have to write. At least= that's how it works for me and the other authors I've discussed it with. Okay, attempted humor aside, I started writing fanfic three years ago because I'd started reading fanfic. And the stories I read were so wonderful, and I was so pathetically grateful to have something to feed m= y newfound obsession, that I wanted to repay those kind people. And the be= st way I could think of was to write something of my own. (I think I'd seen maybe 5 episodes ) I threw some words on paper, crossed my fingers, a= nd sent it out into the ether, with fear and trembling. And wonder of wonders, a few people wrote to me (!) and said they liked it (it's called= GETTING AWAY FROM IT ALL if you want to check, and looking back at it now= , I think it's awful ). Thus encouraged, I kept at it... After that, the motivation was mainly "ooh, I wonder what would happen if...". I wrote because a situation had popped into my head, and I was curious to see how it would come out. I wrote several fics as a challeng= e - I (and Sarah Wood) wrote GOING TO THE CHAPEL during the summer before t= he 3rd season because we desperately wanted L&C to get married, but we knew they wouldn't be allowed an uninterrupted wedding. The challenge, then, was to interrupt it in a *good* way. Similarly, I wrote SECOND CHANCES because I knew that, once Lois was in on the secret, it was only a matter= of time before she got amnesia. Everyone I knew was dreading that, so I wanted to see if I could turn it into something positive. And really, once you're into a writing mode, anything can trigger a story... I wrote PRESIDENT KENT because the National Review mentioned Cla= rk Kent in passing, which got me thinking about whether or not he'd make a good president... (I won't give away my conclusions; you'll have to read the story ) The public demanded sequels, and I thought of a few interesting things to add to that universe, so two sequels got written. = (I have the barebones of another sequel laid out, but no idea when I might g= et that finished, sorry) I wrote QUIET NIGHT in response to another fanfic, which had L&C divorcing over what seemed to me to be fixable problems. That was an agenda fic, to say, look, you just can't give up that easily. Sometimes, I create a fic backwards - I'll get a scene in my head, an emotion-packed situation, and then from there I have to figure out how= L&C got to that point. CRAZY FOR YOU was one of those; I had a dream with= a strong emotional core that I wanted to reproduce (the scene in the park a= t the end, for those of you who've read it) and the rest of the fic was jus= t written to set that up. The 2nd Pres Kent sequel was like that, too - I saw the scene with Keith in the ballroom, and just had to get everyone to= that point... A question, for you authors (who've managed to stay awake til this point ): To what extent do you find that your characters create the story fo= r you? My favorite moment in writing fanfic is when I've set up a situatio= n and then the characters take over, and just draw me along with them... I had that happen most in FORGET ME NOT, REDUX and WHAT DREAMS MAY COME - portions of those just wrote themselves. And, I'll be honest, all those are motivations to *start* a story... the motivation to actually *finish* the sucker, get it edited, and get it= *out* there is the hope that once it's done and published, someone will write me to say they liked it. I like to entertain (in my own introverte= d way), and I'm a total sucker for flattery, so I really live for that "gee= , I had so much fun in your story that I didn't want it to end" kinda feedback. I suspect that's pretty universal among authors. If we didn't= want feedback, after all, we wouldn't ever have to distribute our stories... (distribution carries the risk of "god that was awful" and tha= t can be devastating to hear) Sorry for the waste of bandwidth but thanks to all two of you who got= this far... PJ !^NavFont02F0E3E0007MGHHU40D5C3 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:46:11 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: This Drake... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Leanne, I just have one question: with all your work on Season 5, when in the = world did you find time to write this?!? This was terrific! The emotions Clark must have felt over not saving Mayson because he was = kissing Lois are something I thought the show didn't cover adequately, and I'm very glad = to finally read some fanfic dealing with it. (If there are others out there on this subject which = I have missed, I apologize to the writers, and would ask that this be added to the inquiry list -- I'd like= to read them.) I'll admit I was a little surprised by the scene where Mayson kisses Clar= k while he's in the supersuit. Given her aversion to Superman, which seemed to me to be more than just = an objection to his vigilantism, do you really think she would kiss him? Yes, she knows Supe= rman is Clark, and yes, she loves Clark. We're accustomed to Lois' hurt and anger over the revelatio= n, and she *loved* both Clark & Superman -- I would have expected Mayson to be more conflicted = over discovering that the man she loves is also the superhero she hates. That one quibble aside, I really enjoyed this story. Lois' annoyance wit= h Clark for not jumping in to help where Superman couldn't was perfect -- since her own reaction is to = do just that, of course she would expect the same from Clark. Good job, Leanne! Peace ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:12:15 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Author Motivations In-Reply-To: <199801261201_MC2-30B1-5B35@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, at the risk of sounding like "me, too", I would have to second a = lot of what Pam said about her motivations for writing. I got started writing because I was = enjoying reading -- I felt like I was joining in a conversation, so to speak, by adding a story to = the pile. Then I had a couple of "what if" ideas, and found that I really enjoyed using my walks= during my breaks at work to come up with plausible solutions and workable scenes for these = "what-ifs". All of this happened at the end of Season 3, in the post-BGDF anguish = , and I remember writing to Debby Stark and saying I felt like a champagne bottle with the= cork popped -- the stories just kept bubbling out. It seems to me that, in terms of motivation, for me, there are several = kinds of stories: 1. What if...? - As explained above -- most of my stories fall into this= category. 2. Requests - My friend Nancy was afraid TPTB would not resolve the rela= tionship of Zara and Ching to her satisfaction, and so she gave me the basic premise and asked= me to write the story. The result was "The Secret Knows" which is nfic. She's given me another = to work on, but so far I haven't gotten that one done. 3. Sequels/Responses - As I've mentioned before on this list, Piper's = "The Heir: Return" really struck a chord with me, and I wrote to her asking if I could write the = sequel or collaborate with her on the sequel. She agreed to allow me to collaborate with her, and = a wonderful friendship has blossomed as a result of all the hours we spent working on it. 4. Chatroom Round Robins - I love doing these -- they're a wonderful exe= rcise in thinking on your feet, so to speak And yes, Pam, sometimes the characters really do take over. ;) Peace ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:22:30 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards In-Reply-To: <199801261201_MC2-30B1-5B2A@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable First, I really liked all of Pam's categories for the awards. I know someone (Leanne?) was talking about some 100 categories? which feels like an awful lot... but I'd want to see the list before I said so = for absolutely sure. (how's that for a wishy-washy attitude? ) Someone had mentioned doing nominations -- someone had mentioned setting up a form on a homepage where we could click and vote (and perhap= s type in nominations?) I think these are terrific ideas -- I have space = at my page which could be used for this if someone can write the HTML code for = it. Peace ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 13:43:52 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I wasn't going to mention this because I was waiting for Lauren W. to step up and take command of the soap box (for those of you who don't know, Lauren holds the archive mirror site for the main L&C fanfiction archive on the net, and was the keeper of the MAIN archive at www.win.net when Rhen used to send out stories :) Anyway! LOL Lauren was on IRC with KathyB, myself and the rest of the fanfic archive staff for a meeting the other day and she had what we then thought (and still do) is a GREAT suggestion. Call the awards "The Fanfic Kerths" .. assuming someone is willing to tabulate the votes, etc, she also suggested categories, much as Pam just did so I won't repeat them here, but I kinda love the idea of "Kerth" awards for Fanfic.. in keeping with L&C, journalistic excellence...writing excellence.. it just seems to...work What do you all think? ;) Demi _________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- "See, the thing is, I've loved him my whole life..." _________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:35:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Margaret Brignell Subject: Re: Author Motivations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:00 PM 26/01/98 -0500, Pam Jernigan wrote: >After that, the motivation was mainly "ooh, I wonder what would happen >if...". I wrote because a situation had popped into my head, and I was >curious to see how it would come out. I confess, this is *my* usual impetus >Sometimes, I create a fic backwards - I'll get a scene in my head, >an emotion-packed situation, and then from there I have to figure out how >L&C got to that point. Sometimes? This is *often* what happens to me...I visualize a scene in my head (Like the TV announcer scene in "The Day Superman Died", and the in-between scene after Superman swallows the bomb and before he flies Lois into the newsroom in "Clark...Who?") and then I have to write something to explain what went on to get there...and what happens as a result Usually, I have the scene in my head long before I start writing...then some other event triggers me to begin the writing process. >A question, for you authors (who've managed to stay awake til this point >): Margaret's head snaps up and she says "Uh, I was awake...honest!" >To what extent do you find that your characters create the story for >you? Quite a lot...in fact there are times when I wonder if I have *any* control over the story at all;) >And, I'll be honest, all those are motivations to *start* a story... >the motivation to actually *finish* the sucker, get it edited, and get it >*out* there is the hope that once it's done and published, someone will >write me to say they liked it. LOL! Oh, Yes! Exactly!:) Usually, somewhere in the middle of writing the dang thing I develop this sudden hatred for the whole mess, and want to throw up my hands in disgust. I usually get over it though >Sorry for the waste of bandwidth but thanks to all two of you who got >this far... Okay, so who's the other one, eh? Thanks for the insight Pam:) Now I really have to get back to revising my latest...those pushy characters are nagging me to get my tail back in that story and explain exactly what the heck is going on Margaret who has a cold, but is desperately trying to ignore it;\ ****************************** Margaret Brignell brignell@capitalnet.com Ottawa, Canada %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% My fanfic now available at: http://www.capitalnet.com/~brignell/ ****************************** ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:32:59 +0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Genine E Murray Subject: Birth Certificate? Hey FoLCs, Yet again, I need some more info for my fanfic that I am *still* working on. Another thing that I was curious about and needed to know for the story is, does Clark have a birth certificate, or any other legal record of his birth? I really don't know if Jonathan and Martha would pay attention to that detail... I doubt it was ever mentioned on L&C... but perhaps in the comics or other movies/ TV shows? That information would be just as good. Does anyone know? Your input would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Take care FoLCs! :) Genine ~ GemFoLC51@juno.com ~ SuperGeM on mIRC Watch "Lois & Clark : The New Adventures of Superman" on TNT "Generation after generation, we are all blinded by love, Ms. Lane. Especially that one great love that changes us forever." H.G. Wells - Tempus Fugitive _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:08:47 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Michelle J Subject: Re: Birth Certificate? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-26 14:56:39 EST, Genine Murray writes: << Hey FoLCs, Yet again, I need some more info for my fanfic that I am *still* working on. Another thing that I was curious about and needed to know for the story is, does Clark have a birth certificate, or any other legal record of his birth? I really don't know if Jonathan and Martha would pay attention to that detail... I doubt it was ever mentioned on L&C... but perhaps in the comics or other movies/TV shows? That information would be just as good. Does anyone know? Your input would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Take care FoLCs! :) >> I'm pretty sure it was never mentioned on L&C, but I do remember reading in a fanfic recently that a trusted family physician of the Kents was told the truth about the big secret and he forged a birth certificate and other pertinent documents when Clark was an infant. The author also mentioned that the physician died when Clark was 6 years old. Michelle (Lala2 on IRC) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:28:00 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Author Motivations In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980126143439.006aa410@capitalnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:35 PM 1/26/98 -0500, Pam wrote: >>To what extent do you find that your characters create the story for >>you? Margaret Responded: >Quite a lot...in fact there are times when I wonder if I have *any* control >over the story at all;) I so agree ;) And I freely admit that I have no control whatsoever! I can plan and direct and suddenly the characters talk and move wherever they feel they'd like to and I have to go chasing after them at great peril. ;P The most incredible thing I find often when writing is that I'll have in mind a certain goal, or if you'd prefer, a focus towards which I'd like things to head and suddenly, (in the case of L&C fanfic for example) Lois or Clark will end up walking the OTHER way ;P So...I follow.. I don't know if a truly evokative piece of writing can exist without a life in and of itself, and that kind of independance is bound to create trauma for it's author I know I mentioned before that I hear the voices of my characters in my head when I write, and I was told that I'm not alone (Thank God! This padded room was getting kinda lonely ;) Writing for me has always been a voyage of discovery, because, in much the same way as reading, it really *isn't* a predictable venture. I can't even count the number of times I've been frustrated with *myself* because I've wanted to know what happens NEXT and of course, I wouldn't know until I'd written it, d*mn it, LOL I'm sure KathyB can also attest to that particular angst at the moment, since our own story is nearing it's "climax" (In the very PG sense of the word I promise ) and we're just now writing those words and scenes... 100 pages later ;P Those are the things which have always drawn me towards writing...that and the fact that I'm absolutely the WORST free hand visual artist that ever lived Yet I always dream of expressing my thoughts visually. Next to acting or directing, writing has become my own way of painting, therefore. Some people are blessed with the gift of being able to make beautiful pieces of visual art, while others of us have to find that expression through other mediums :) The only way I can realise my own portraits, is to use words for paint. This is a wonderful thread, who's next? :) Take Care All Demi _________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- "See, the thing is, I've loved him my whole life..." _________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:18:58 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bre Leigh Subject: Re: Birth Certificate? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-26 14:56:39 EST, you write: << Yet again, I need some more info for my fanfic that I am *still* working on. Another thing that I was curious about and needed to know for the story is, does Clark have a birth certificate, or any other legal record of his birth? I really don't know if Jonathan and Martha would pay attention to that detail... I doubt it was ever mentioned on L&C... but perhaps in the comics or other movies/ TV shows? That information would be just as good. Does anyone know? Your input would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Take care FoLCs! :) >> Yes, it was mentioned in Superman the Movie.... when Martha and Jon had to explain to clark why he could fly, etc..... they said they had a friend who was a doctor make up a fake one for him. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:46:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Birth Certificate? In-Reply-To: <96938c79.34cced51@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:08 PM -0500 1/26/98, Michelle J wrote: >I'm pretty sure it was never mentioned on L&C, but I do remember reading in a >fanfic recently that a trusted family physician of the Kents was told the >truth about the big secret and he forged a birth certificate and other >pertinent documents when Clark was an infant. The author also mentioned that >the physician died when Clark was 6 years old. My understanding is that this is how the comics explained the dilema of getting official papers for Clark. The Kents took the infant Clark to their elderly family doctor in town who knew how to keep a secret. It sounds like this author just incorporated the comic's version into his/her fic. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:52:50 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "through a glass, darkly" Subject: Re: Birth Certificate? < Another thing that I was curious about and needed to know for the story < is, < does Clark have a birth certificate, or any other legal record of his < birth? I really < don't know if Jonathan and Martha would pay attention to that detail... I < doubt < it was ever mentioned on L&C... but perhaps in the comics or other < movies/ < TV shows? That information would be just as good. Not in the show, as far as I know, but I know of a great fanfic that talks about Clark's birth certificate. It's called Meeting Buddy, by Marcia DeCaro and I got it from the archive a while ago. In it (without giving everything away, so you should really read it), Lois meets an old friend of Clark's, who tells her about Clark leaving his birth certificate in her car once and the mystery about the circumstances surrounding his birth. Hope that helps a little. -Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:50:07 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Demi & the fanfic archive staff suggested... >> "The Fanfic Kerths" << I *love* it! It's absolutely in keeping with the show, and I'm sure that every author out there reading this was immediately consumed with lu= st for a Kerth Award of his/her very own... PJ !^NavFont02F00DB000FMGpHG3AMG3CHGDC6962 E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 26-Jan-1998 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: now at: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ as mentioned in SciFi Entertainment magazine ~~~~~ "Bloom, close, kick 'em in the head." (Fraser teaches Ray how to swim, Due South) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:50:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Author Motivations Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Margaret wrote, in response to my post: >> Margaret's head snaps up and she says "Uh, I was awake...honest!" <= < Yes, yes, we believe you... >> there are times when I wonder if I have *any* control over the story at all;) << Ah, but it's fun... they do take us to some very interesting places! = I usually try to retain some control over their actions, but the dialog i= s more of an "overheard" sort of thing for me... To switch universes for a second, JMS (creater/producer/writer) of Babylo= n 5 has explained it this way, more or less: Babylon 5 is a real place, in the future. I just have a window to it; I peek in, then run away and wri= te down what I see..." >> Usually, somewhere in the middle of writing the dang thing I develop this sudden hatred for the whole mess, and want to throw up my hands in disgust. << Oh, I laughed so much at this... I have hated *all* my stories at various points... Luckily for me, I have good editors, and they usually can talk me down... Another discussion question: How important is it to have a good editor? = Me, personally, I wouldn't *ever* want to send out a story that hadn't be= en seen & critiqued by at least one other person whose opinions I respected = - my first few fanfics were unedited (even by me!) and I cringe when I look= back at them... And how do you *find* a good editor? >> Now I really have to get back to revising my latest... << Yeah, anyway, come on, here, your fans are waiting... And then Demi responded to Margaret: >> I don't know if a truly evokative piece of writing can exist without a= life in and of itself, and that kind of independance is bound to create trauma= for it's author << Well put. Usually, for me, I don't mind following where they lead, but sometimes... >> writing has become my own way of painting, therefore. Some people are blessed with the gift of being able to make beautiful pieces of visual art, while others of us have to find that expression through other mediums :) << I think that's very true... I can't draw, or paint, or do anything even vaguely artistic in that sense. I know what I *want* things to look= like, but they never end up resembling my mental picture at all S= o I write. (And do counted cross-stitch ) I loved your whole post, Demi, it really resonated for me, and it's plain= to see that you're a *good* writer... PJ PJ !^NavFont02F077E0063MGHHGiMGkHG5EMG60HG86MG88HGC6MGC8HInMIpHIA3MIA5HK45MK= 47 HK7 3MK75HKC4MKC6HL4FML51HL97ML99HM4DMM4FHN80830D E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 26-Jan-1998 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: now at: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ as mentioned in SciFi Entertainment magazine ~~~~~ "Bloom, close, kick 'em in the head." (Fraser teaches Ray how to swim, Due South) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:28:48 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "through a glass, darkly" Subject: looking for a fanfic editor I'm hoping someone out there can help me-- I'm a sometimes poster/sometimes lurker on both this list and loiscla and I'm looking for an editor for some of my fanfic. I have a few stories posted at the fanfic archive, and would like to continue to post fanfic there, but would like to have more input than just the editor the archive assigns. Please e-mail me privately if you're interested. Thanks, Christy kubitc@kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:33:49 +1100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Stosser Subject: Re: Birth Certificate? In-Reply-To: <009C0DFA.EB6F7E40.68@kenyon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" In the comics, I don't think Jon & Martha had probs getting the birth certificate. Just after they found Clark, there was a blizzard which had them snowed in for a good few months, and as a result they were able to say that Clark was their own natural born son. COuldn't get into town to register his birth right away, till after the blizzard cleared. -- Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*- (Jenerator or MoiAussie on IRC) This message is umop ap!sdn -*- David is 5 and Megan is 2! Photos on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:37:53 +1100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Stosser Subject: Re: Author Motivations In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980126152800.00a29e80@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My turn! I often have what seems to me to be great ideas for things to happen to the characters from L&C. Sometimes I discuss them online with other like-minded folcs - but I usually forget to log the channel at the time, so I lose the stories. Usually in my case it's either a "what if" type of story (eg What if Dean and Clark were switched over (by Tempus) and had to manage to be the other person for a while?) but occasionally I have ideas about how people got to where they are now (I know I had an idea for how Clark would have dealt with being different growing up, but that's one of the chats I forgot to log. I hope it'll come back to me sometime!). I did find, while I was writing The Chicken or the Egg that I could "hear" Dean, Clark, Teri and Lois talking and just transcribed it. I had a plan for where I wanted to finish up and mostly let the characters get there in their own way... -- Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*- (Jenerator or MoiAussie on IRC) This message is umop ap!sdn -*- David is 5 and Megan is 2! Photos on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:11:27 -0800 Reply-To: atavakoly0@sm.saddleback.cc.ca.us Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Ali Tavakoly Organization: Saddleback College Subject: Re: Author Motivations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I read your fanfic and love it:) I was wondering if you read the fanfic for Super woman where LL and CK switctch roles . Where LL comes fromt heplanet krypton and CK is Human. This made me wonder what would happen if the human ck and superman traded places.:) Jenny Stosser wrote: > My turn! > > I often have what seems to me to be great ideas for things to happen to the > characters from L&C. Sometimes I discuss them online with other > like-minded folcs - but I usually forget to log the channel at the time, so > I lose the stories. Usually in my case it's either a "what if" type of > story (eg What if Dean and Clark were switched over (by Tempus) and had to > manage to be the other person for a while?) but occasionally I have ideas > about how people got to where they are now (I know I had an idea for how > Clark would have dealt with being different growing up, but that's one of > the chats I forgot to log. I hope it'll come back to me sometime!). > > I did find, while I was writing The Chicken or the Egg that I could "hear" > Dean, Clark, Teri and Lois talking and just transcribed it. I had a plan > for where I wanted to finish up and mostly let the characters get there in > their own way... > > -- > Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*- (Jenerator or MoiAussie on IRC) > This message is umop ap!sdn -*- David is 5 and Megan is 2! Photos on the > Stosser Family HomePage: > http://geocities.com/Heartland/Estates/4583 Please sign our guestbook! ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:05:14 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards In-Reply-To: <199801261201_MC2-30B1-5B2A@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OK, so there weren't really 100 categories, but it sure felt like it. I'm going to visit the archives today (if they're being co-operative) and seeing if I can add any more ... I *think* I can set up a html screen so that it will look spiffy :) and collate votes ... anyone want to help count besides Debra? And I *love* the Kerth Awards idea!!!! Demi just beat me to saying it :) Additions to Pam's List off the top of my head: Best Series Best Lex Story Best crossover Best nfic Best death-fic (hey, it's a category!) ANy more? Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ ********************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:08:38 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Re: This Drake... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Peace wrote: > >I just have one question: with all your work on Season 5, when in the >world did you find time to >write this?!? This was terrific! > Well ... I've been working on it since Mayson died .. putting it away, picking it back up again ... getting two wonderful editors to look at it ... working on Season 5. I finished my last S5 ep (ready for my editor at any rate), so I turned my attention back to it. >I'll admit I was a little surprised by the scene where Mayson kisses Clark >while he's in the supersuit. >Given her aversion to Superman, which seemed to me to be more than just an >objection to his >vigilantism, do you really think she would kiss him? Yes, she knows >Superman is Clark, and yes, she Well ... the first reason I did this was to annoy all those Mayson-extreme-dislikers *grin*. But by this stage, she's a) dying; b) asked Superman for help; c) is about to be a vigilante herself ... so her attitude was rapidly changing ... I probably didn't do a good enough job showing that. Hmm, revisions, revisions :) Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ ********************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:23:52 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Re: Author Motivations In-Reply-To: <199801261201_MC2-30B1-5B35@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" My turn to join in the self-absorption! (I hope people don't mind three posts in a row!) My motivation: Until I can think up real, three-dimensional characters of my own, I work with someone else's. How's that for honesty. (If anyone has any suggestions on how to develop such characters, I'd love to hear 'em!) And it's a heck of a lot of fun. It keeps me writing, makes me write better (Season 5 taught me how to appreciate good editing!) and it's fun! (oh, I said that already!) And ideas and images come to mind that I just have to get down. They're often wicked ideas -- (X & Y Equals, and my Quantum Leap crossover fic, actually, a lot of mine are wicked :)) I even wrote a story where Lois chooses Scardino because she's so p.o.ed at Clark. That got dumped though -- Scardino came off sounding too much like Clark! The loss of Mayson was extremely unfair, I thought ... thus "This Drake is No Sitting Duck". I've done rewrites ("Leaping for the Answer") because I wasn't happy with the ep, although, oddly enough, aside from the freezing thing that annoys me to bits, I feel better about Clark being a thief to save his parents ... And I've filled in gaps ... I really needed to know how Clark (and the other citizens) were coping with the aftermath of Lord Nor. ('In Memoriam') I *needed* to do a continuation of Season 5 ... was going to do it all by myself but Dan reminded me I wouldn't have a life if I did. I really needed to know what happened with the baby (I hated Tim's accelerated growth thing) and as other Season 5 writers will attest, I came up with some pretty Season2-reminiscent-wacky plots -- fortunately, my writers came with stories of their own :) I'm working on one (have been since before Season 5 started, which takes up a lot of time!) now -- another crossover -- Lois & Clark are behaving well ... but the other characters aren't ... so at the moment, I'm focusing on getting their dialogue right without sounding too ... corny. So it's going slowly... I think I need to rewatch a few more Tales of the Gold Monkey eps ... What is really bizarre is that I'm writing Buffy fic -- short pieces, but they've been coming to me very vividly -- and I've been told that with one or two exceptions I've been getting the characters right and I haven't seen an entire season of Buffy (the vampire slayer) yet! So that's kind of astonishing. And I'm also finding a greater urge to write 100%-disclaimer-free fiction ... and I think I've got the confidence from having written fanfic here among you wonderful people ... Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ ********************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:10:05 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "through a glass, darkly" Subject: Re: Author Motivations Demi responded to Margaret: >> I don't know if a truly evokative piece of writing can exist without a life in and of itself, and that kind of independance is bound to create trauma for it's author << And Pam Jernigan responded: > Well put. Usually, for me, I don't mind following where they lead, but sometimes... > If you ever want to do something interesting with a story, put it away for a while after you've finished it, try to forget about it, and then come back to it. I was forced to do this a while back because of computer problems - I had to totally rewrite several (very long) stories. When it first happened, I was *very* upset, but in all cases (I think) I like what I've rewritten better than my originals, which were edited a lot to begin with. It's interesting to see how things can develop in a *very* different way a year or so later and I think my writing's improved because of it. -Christy (who's surprised that, as a (sometimes) lurker, she's posted three times today!) kubitc@kenyon.edu ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:11:56 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: looking for a fanfic editor In-Reply-To: <009C0E10.B5079160.4@kenyon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 6:28 PM -0500 1/26/98, through a glass, darkly wrote: > I'm hoping someone out there can help me-- I'm a sometimes >poster/sometimes lurker on both this list and loiscla and I'm looking for an >editor for some of my fanfic. I have a few stories posted at the fanfic >archive, and would like to continue to post fanfic there, but would like to >have more input than just the editor the archive assigns. Please e-mail me >privately if you're interested. Just so everyone knows, the Archive does have a list of Story Editors, in addition to the General Editors that review submitted stories for typos. Story Editors do just what Christy describes above - take a closer at your story to identify plot holes, inconsistencies with the show or characters, etc. Most people do find their own Story Editors, either by asking their friends or by advertising as Christy does above. This is a great idea, and something experienced fanfic writers highly recommend. However, if you can't find your own Story Editor, the Archive does maintain a list of people who may be able to help you. Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:16:12 -0600 Reply-To: peabody@mcs.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pat Organization: Amarna House Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leanne Shawler wrote: > > And I *love* the Kerth Awards idea!!!! Demi just beat me to saying it :) I agree with Pam, Leanne and Demi; it's the perfect name for the awards :) > Additions to Pam's List off the top of my head: > Best Series > Best Lex Story > Best crossover > Best nfic > Best death-fic (hey, it's a category!) More categories mean more nominations and more winners, which is great! Besides giving the writers the recognition they deserve, we get a recommended reading list. I did have one question on the categories: Some stories fit into a number of categories; there are nfic series, etc. Can a story be nominated in more than one category? Pat -- peabody@mcs.com pattijean@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:47:32 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: nfic Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This post contains the titles of nfic. If you do not wish to read them, please delete this post. If you do wish to read them...scroll down... Favorite Nfics: It was requsted that I repost the nfic list separately, so here goes... Mentioned 5 times: Harper, Sheila Faster than a Speeding Bullet Mentioned 4 times: Harper, Sheila A Shot in the Dark Mentioned 3 times: Brown, Kathy Winners Gorn Consummate Revelation McDermin, Sandy Love as a Blonde Menolly The Dayz Series Peace and Piper The Heir: Healing Mentioned 2 times: McDermin, Sandy Something's Missing Mentioned 1 time: Geraud, Barbara A Christmas to Remember Gorn Going, Going, Gone Gorn One and Only Herwood, Molly A Family Secret Linda / Lillonely All Work and No Play Manning, Deborah Crazy / Turnabout / Anniversary Waltz McElhaney, Lori Fantasy Series Menolly The Private Life of Clark Kent Medos, BB Sanctuary Melaragni, Dom San Fransisco Sweeties I apologize for any confusion with the previous post. I had the nfics included in with the fanfics, and I must have confused the lists and posted the fanfic list twice... this is all so confusing . Thanks for you patience... Crystal ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:04:26 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980126134352.0081e590@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Demi wrote: >Call the awards "The Fanfic Kerths" Excellent -- I vote yes on this one!!! If a little thumbnail-size graphic were designed to indicate "1997 Fanfic= Kerth for [category]" could these be included in the archive with the winning stori= es? They certainly could be offered to the authors who have their own fanfic sites= . Anybody got a screen capture of Lois's cabinet full of Kerths? ;) Peace ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:23:01 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Genevieve Subject: Re: This Drake... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" About LeAnne's new fanfic "That Drake is no sitting duck", Peace wrote: << I'll admit I was a little surprised by the scene where Mayson kisses Clark while he's in the supersuit. Given her aversion to Superman, which seemed to me to be more than just an objection to his vigilantism, do you really think she would kiss him? Yes, she knows Superman is Clark, and yes, she loves Clark. We're accustomed to Lois' hurt and anger over the revelation,and she *loved* both Clark & Superman -- I would have expected Mayson to be more conflicted over discovering that the man she loves is also the superhero she hates. That one quibble aside, I really enjoyed this story. Lois' annoyance with Clark for not jumping in to help where Superman couldn't was perfect -- since her own reaction is to dojust that, of course she would expect the same from Clark.>>> Like Peace, I was always curious about how Clark coped with Mayson's death, and the show didn't address those issues at all. But I was fascinated by Mayson in LeAnne's fanfic. Mayson's dislike of Superman was never really personal, she disliked him on principle. He was a vigilante, operating outside the law, etc. etc. I think the revelation that Superman was really *Clark*, someone she knew, trusted, and loved would have been a real eye-opener for her. Lois, who knew both men, would have been hurt and angry and betrayed over the revelation; for Mayson, she's seeing Superman as a real person for the first time. Superman before was this powerful being, with who knew what motives and hidden agendas -- now he's Clark, this normal guy she really likes. Now for the first time, she can trust Superman. And in this fanfic we see a different side of Mayson Drake. For the first time, *she's* the one threatened. Waking up in the hands of an arch-villain, poisoned and needing an antidote, we find that Mayson Drake is not above a little vigilantism herself. I love the irony in the Daily Planet scene. Right after she rails at him for being Superman, she turns and asks for his help. "Vigilantism is *wrong*, you should work within the law. But I need this antidote, and I want you whatever it takes -- breaking and enter into Luthor's hideout and *steal* it if necessary." And then later, when she has Lex at her mercy, she doesn't hesitate to threaten to kill him. Would she have done so? We'll never know. But she certainly wanted to. Perhaps, now, she finds Superman's restraint given his great power reassuring, whereas before she only found his power threatening. I really enjoyed this story, and I'd love to see a sequel to this. Set in this alternate Universe, where, perhaps, Lois and Clark never get together. Mayson has a definate advantage over Lois now, knowing Clark's secret, coming to trust him. Will Clark manage to smooth things over with Lois, or will he settle for this beautiful woman who's knows all there is to know about him? Instead of Dan Scardino providing the roadblocks, now we have a very powerful Mayson Drake hanging around Clark. What intriguing twists and turns this romance could take. ======================================================================= Genevieve (NightSky@erols.com) "I must say that television is very educational. The minute someone turns it on, I go to the library and find a good book"--Groucho Marx ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:41:28 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folcs! Peace wrote: >>If a little thumbnail-size graphic were designed to indicate "1997 Fanfic Kerth for [category]" could these be included in the archive with the winning stories? They certainly could be offered to the authors who have their own fanfic sites. Anybody got a screen capture of Lois's cabinet full of Kerths? ;) << Hey, if nobody has a screen capture of the Kerths, I'll volunteer to make one! Just say the word. And I really like the idea of having something, whether it be a small Kerth graphic, or just an asterick (sp?) on fanfics on the archive that can let ppl know that a fanfic has won (or maybe even been nominated for??) the award so that ppl paging down through titles, etc. can more easily spot those stand-outs. But having watched my hubby build homepages, etc, I can readily believe that all this may be too time consuming for those ppl who have already very generously supplied us with such a great site for fanfic! (Thanks a ton to those site managers!!). But I just thought I'd jump in and give my two cents. :) Erin (who is, at this very moment, discovering how nearly impossible it is to type and hold a sleeping baby at the same time ) erink@ida.net ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 21:45:47 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: folc on TV MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi again all :) I forgot to say that I saw the Wedding Story that Peace talked about the other day, and it was cool to see Peace on it, just like she said she would be! It's always fun to see what fellow folcs look like, and esp. on TV! Way to go, Peace!! :) Erin :) erink@ida.net "The truth is, no one knows how long they've got. Anyway, it's not the years that count, it's the moments...right now...as they happen." CK to LL in BY ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:55:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Additions to Pam's List off the top of my head: Best Series Best Lex Story Best crossover Best nfic Best death-fic (hey, it's a category!) ANy more? << I think I had "best series" but it bears repeating... how about "best inbetweenie vignette" and "best elseworld story" - meaning, it goes= outside continuity altogether, like having Lois be the one from Krypton, = or maybe baby Kal-El was picked up by the Luthors, or the Waynes... or Burea= u 39. Then Pat asked: >> I did have one question on the categories: Some stories fit into a number of categories; there are nfic series, etc. Can a story be nominat= ed in more than one category? << I'm not involved, so this isn't an offical answer, but here's my reaction, anyway, just for the halibut... I'd say that a story could be nominated in several categories, but that would scatter the votes it'd ge= t, and make it less likely to win in any category... Maybe once the nominations are up, the author should be allowed to un-nominate their own= story in certain categories? Or maybe I'm being much too competitive here... PJ !^NavFont02F0374001DMGJHG7DMG7FHH7FMH81HIRMITHJ751951 E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 26-Jan-1998 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: now at: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ as mentioned in SciFi Entertainment magazine ~~~~~ "Bloom, close, kick 'em in the head." (Fraser teaches Ray how to swim, Due South) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:44:00 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alyssa Mondelli Organization: Brought to you by the legal firm of Deceive, Inveigle, & Obfuscate Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Pam Jernigan wrote: > >> I did have one question on the categories: Some stories fit into a > number of categories; there are nfic series, etc. Can a story be nominated > in more than one category? << > > I'm not involved, so this isn't an offical answer, but here's my > reaction, anyway, just for the halibut... I'd say that a story could be > nominated in several categories, but that would scatter the votes it'd get, > and make it less likely to win in any category... Maybe once the > nominations are up, the author should be allowed to un-nominate their own > story in certain categories? Or maybe I'm being much too competitive > here... For comparison purposes, over in the land of X-philia, there have been several award ceremonies and several stories that were nominated (and won) repeatedly. For instance, there were categories of 'best series' and also 'best story in a series' in the Spooky awards, and so a few well-known series dominated those categories. Not that that's necessarily a good thing; that's just how it turned out. Unless we make a rule specifically against it, I suppose it could happen here too. We don't have that many series, but there must be revelation stories that are also romances with an A-plot featuring Lex Luthor in an alternate universe *somewhere* in the archive. Has anyone suggested voting for the nominees before voting for the awards? That's something I liked about the various XF fanfic awards: first there was a nomination period, in which you could vote for any story you felt fit a certain category, and then the top 6 or so nominated stories in each category became the final nominees that people could vote on to receive the actual awards. But remember: The Gossamer archive is well on its way to 8000 stories. We have just over 700. At the rate people are coming up with Kerth categories, we may as well just give one to everybody and be done with it ;-> Oh - and if we're having awards, do we get to have an awards show? When the Morley winners were chosen (yet another XF fanfic award), there was a whole show produced via e-mail, complete with guest presenters and acceptance speeches from the winners. It was way more fun than it had any right to be. I bet we could top that if we tried. ==Alyssa in St. Paul== (agmondelli@stthomas.edu)(AlyssaM on the IRC) Webmistress, Tempus Expeditions - http://www.tempus.simplenet.com Home of the Fortress of Insanity and Lois & Clark Season 5 "What's less than square one? Minus zippo? Negative bupkes?" --Capt. Don Cragen, _Law & Order_ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:40:20 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Erin Klingler Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alyssa wrote: >Oh - and if we're having awards, do we get to have an awards show? When >the Morley winners were chosen (yet another XF fanfic award), there was >a whole show produced via e-mail, complete with guest presenters and >acceptance speeches from the winners. It was way more fun than it had >any right to be. I bet we could top that if we tried. Great idea!!! I can top that! (isn't that an LNC line? Give me a minute..I'm sure I can remember from where ) How about instead of via email, we do it via IRC??? It was tons of fun that night on IRC when Tim Minear came on line after the last LNC ep. There were so many ppl, that it was a regular party! Anyone remember what the final head count was? Anyway, my point is that it would be fun to have the awards there, with ops as emcees, etc. Erin :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 00:39:26 -0600 Reply-To: peabody@mcs.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pat Organization: Amarna House Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Alyssa wrote: > >Oh - and if we're having awards, do we get to have an awards show? When > >the Morley winners were chosen (yet another XF fanfic award), there was > >a whole show produced via e-mail, complete with guest presenters and > >acceptance speeches from the winners. It was way more fun than it had > >any right to be. I bet we could top that if we tried. > Erin Klingler responded: > > Great idea!!! I can top that! (isn't that an LNC line? Give me a minute..I'm > sure I can remember from where ) > > How about instead of via email, we do it via IRC??? It was tons of fun that > night on IRC when Tim Minear came on line after the last LNC ep. There were > so many ppl, that it was a regular party! Anyone remember what the final > head count was? Anyway, my point is that it would be fun to have the awards > there, with ops as emcees, etc. I really like both of these ideas! I remember the night Tim was on the IRC; I'm not positive on the headcount, but I think the channel had around 180 people at its busiest point. With IRC instructions and software readily available, we could probably top that. Meeting as a group to give out the awards sounds like a lot of fun, even if I don't know what an op is! Pat -- peabody@mcs.com pattijean@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:58:37 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: Re: Author motivations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Author's Note: I'm clearly starting work on the dissertation for that Master of Fine Arts (Creating Writing), so please delete this unless you're interested in what makes *me* work as a writer. :)Sheila Motivation for writing? I've always written fiction, just not with the passion that writing about Lois and Clark arouses (and I'm not talking sex here, guys :). I never actually thought about writing fanfic until I got on-line and read some stories in the Krypton Club archive--because I knew fanfic would never get me closer to my dream of being published. However, after I read a few, I remembered the collections of Star Trek fanfic that actually got published (The New Voyages I and II), and I decided that if anyone ever made a collection of the best of L&C fic, I was going to be in it. (No conceit or arrogance in my family--I have all of it :) So I started trying to imagine stories that would seem like a series episode in prose. For someone who is known for writing stories with strong A-plots, my stories usually start out with an idea for the B-plot: how can I show that Lois and Clark's love is strong enough to overcome *any*thing? What would happen if Lois got pregnant and Clark disappeared for a long time? (I swear to God, I had that idea in January 1996, and I was so upset when the show appeared to start pursuing it in BGDF--and so relieved when they dropped the idea in LotF :) How would Lois cope with a separated Clark and Superman? How can I show Clark realizing that he isn't just a normal guy (as he states in LW) without disturbing the continuity of the series? I also have a little file of science-ficky A-plot ideas that sit unnoticed until I need something to turn my B-plot into a viable story. ("Okay, if I use the separated Clark and Superman idea as the trigger to Clark realizing that he isn't just a normal guy, what sort of event/force/being could make something like that happen?" --And, voila! Mxyzptlk to the rescue!) I try to write stories that are like real episodes, as if I were a real staff writer (but with complete control over my story! :). Because I imagine myself writing an episode that could appear on the series, I can hear the nitpicky reviews from the FoLCs after it airs, so I spend a lot of time making the A-plot as seamless as possible (for the FoLCs for whom that matters), while ensuring that the story focuses on the relationship (for the FoLCs who see the A-plot as a frame for the relationship). As a staff-writer wanna-be, I hate messing with the show's continuity, so I don't like writing elseworld or alternate ep or alternate ending stories or revelation or wedding or NK stories. In fact, that's why Faster Than a Speeding Bullet involved time travel: I wanted to be able to undo everything that happened, so I could maintain show continuity. (BTW, Kathy, that's why the original ending was such a downer. I was trying to have my cake and eat it, too: write a "first time" for L&C, but still maintain CK's virginity for their wedding night so FTaSB wouldn't contradict the series.) Maybe that's why the characters rarely take off on their own when I write them. I spend months (literally) working through what's gonna happen (which is when the characters let me know which actions are acceptable and which ones WILL NOT work), so when I sit down to write, I know exactly what scenes I'm including, what has to be covered in each one, and how everyone will act. The only thing left is the dialog, which sort of flows out like I'm eavesdropping on Lois & Clark (and yes, I hear Teri and Dean's voices saying those words in my head, but I haven't let my family know that yet :). Yet that's the point where I get surprised at times. After I've set up the scene, they're on their own, and I'm just transcribing--because I feel like my sense of what they would say is truer than all my intellectual plans. So even after all my detailed planning, sometimes Clark or Lois will say something that screws up my plans, and I have to reshuffle the plan a little. As far as writing nfic goes, I always have at least one scene in mind when I start writing, and I know *exactly* where it'll fit, but that doesn't mean my PG-13 versions are just Bowlerized versions of the original. With A Shot in the Dark, one of my editor/readers was a 40-year-old woman and the other was a 17-year-old boy, so I wrote the nfic and PG versions at the same time, which involved rewriting (not just clipping) several scenes. I wrote the nfic version of Faster Than a Speeding Bullet first, then went back and rewrote the entire thing with L&C as a married couple for the PG version. Then, with Mxysplit/All Mxyed Up, the PG version was written first, and after it had "aired" on TUFS, I put in the nfic scenes I'd planned from the beginning. For me, it's extremely important that stories stand on their own, no matter what audience I'm writing for, so I work hard to make sure my PG versions never sound like truncated nfics. Besides, I don't want my younger readers (or those not interested in reading explicit scenes) to feel like they're missing anything. That's more than almost anyone wants to know, but because I clarify my own thinking by talking (writing) it out, it's helpful to me. Sorry, guys. You knew there was a reason why I lurk much more than I post. :) Pam, I made it to the bottom of your post, but I don't expect anyone to make it through this one. Sheila (talking to myself, as usual) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:15:32 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Author motivations Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-27 09:50:24 EST, you write: << Then, with Mxysplit/All Mxyed Up, the PG version was written first, and after it had "aired" on TUFS, I put in the nfic scenes I'd planned from the beginning. For me, it's extremely important that stories stand on their own, no matter what audience I'm writing for, so I work hard to make sure my PG versions never sound like truncated nfics. Besides, I don't want my younger readers (or those not interested in reading explicit scenes) to feel like they're missing anything. >> Sheila: I just wanted to let you know that I was a little offended at the remark made on the list that nfic stories converted to PG were, as a group, not good. I appreciated you addressing this remark to the list. Actually, it was your story that I thought of when I read the remark, and that is probably why I was so angry. I read the PG version of Mxysplit first, and I had no idea that there could even be an nfic for it. This was a beautiful story, one of the best I have read, and the revelations that Clark encounters make for wonderful growth in the character. The story stands on it's own. The characters are true to the series, yet they reflect the maturing that we came to expect while the series was going on. When you announced the nfic version (and especially with your warning ) I was sceptical. After all, the story was so good in PG, why mess with it? I did send for the story, and I loved it (oops, that may tell you more about me than you want to know ). The characters stayed true, and you managed to keep a rather kinky thought very ... well ... it just worked. I lack the words to explain, but the story was augmented by the additional scenes. It was not governed by them, and they didn't just sensationalize it. The extra scenes made an already terrific story better, and yet retained the feel of the original. It is obvious the time and effort that you put into your stories. They are beautiful to read ... they "flow", and they develop the characters in the most wonderful way. I really look forward to reading more of your work. Thanks for taking the time to read this. I admire you, and I love your stories. I'm glad I got the opportunity to tell you. Crystal ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:27:18 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards In-Reply-To: <01bd2aee$6ffee240$11ab8dd0@davek> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Erin suggested: >How about instead of via email, we do it via IRC??? It was tons of fun = that >night on IRC when Tim Minear came on line after the last LNC ep. There = were >so many ppl, that it was a regular party! Anyone remember what the final >head count was? Anyway, my point is that it would be fun to have the = awards >there, with ops as emcees, etc. Oooh! I like it! Any chance we could get Teri & Dean to come hand out the awards? Peace who believes in dreaming big ;) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:56:01 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Author motivations In-Reply-To: <199801271558.IAA00636@sage.cncc.cc.co.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Pam, I made >it to the bottom of your post, but I don't expect anyone to make it thro= ugh >this one. I made it all the way through both, because I find the process of writing= almost as fascinating as the writing itself ;) and I enjoy reading how it works = for other people. Sheila, I look forward to reading your dissertation, too Peace ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:25:42 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: Author Motivations MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Great thread...here are some snips of what I sent to the person writing the fanfic article for the Sci-Fi magazine... ----------------------- 2) What is it about reading fanfic that you enjoy? The characters are like friends and you enjoy being with your friends. 6) How often do you read fanfic? Do you find it can be addictive? At least weekly, it is addictive like any other pleasurable activity. 2) What prompted you to start writing? I gave some ideas to a fanfic writer and was encouraged to write. 4) What do you think is the key to writing a good fanfic? Knowing the characters and their motivations. Decide on a starting point and an ending point then let the story flow, it's quite Zen. 5) What do you, as a writer, get out of writing fanfic, considering there’s no monetary compensation or official recognition per se? Ego. The creation of something which didn't exist before is heady, even if no one else knows about it or reads it. 6) Do you like receiving feedback from those who’ve read your work? Yes, it is a tremendous ego boost if they like it, and if they dislike it, a real bummer. ----------------------- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:24:48 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LStroh1856 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Author motivations Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-27 09:50:08 EST, sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes: << Pam, I made it to the bottom of your post, but I don't expect anyone to make it through this one. Sheila >> I am not a writer of fanfic at all but I *still* made it to the bottom of BOTH your posts....I love reading L&C fanfic and so I have been really interested in reading what gives you all your motivations and *how* you write. I have a good friend who is a writer (soon to be published) of romance fiction (now don't groan now) and she also told me her characters tend to have a mind of their own....she will have a path all laid out and low and behold...they go the other way! As a non- writer I think this is so very interesting...I mean you ARE the ones writing, and yet, the characters are so well defined in your minds that they go where they want. I also want to say that one of the "marks" of a good fanfic for me is when I can *hear* Dean and Teri saying the dialog and their words and actions coincide with how I think Lois and Clark would really act. If a story and Lois and Clark are not true to the characters as they are played on L&C I have a much harder time reading the fanfic and don't enjoy it nearly as much. So, am I just as crazy because I hear their voices when I read a fanfic as you all are when you hear their voices when you write? Laurie LStroh1856@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:00:00 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: 1/25/98 WEEKLY UPDATE - KATHY'S CHALLENGE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" KATHY'S CHALLENGE SUMMARY [as of this posting & working backwards] #. trivia clue = fanfic title [author] submitted by : correct responses *all responses listed as recieved, right or wrong NOTE: Items labeled with I# are inquiries about fanfics someone is trying to find, not where they already know the titles NOTE: An inquiry or a challenge won't be counted as solved unless the *original* submitter confirms the answer, just to be fair and accurate. NOTE: Unless otherwise noted as *nfic* [distributed by Debby's nfanfiction list] OR *private* [distributed privately by author], all fanfics discussed are available at the LOIS & CLARK FANFICTION ARCHIVE at: *****STILL TO BE SOLVED OR CONFIRMED***** Just ignore the next two lines, they're simply to save my sanity. Next new challenge will be #25 Next new inquiry will be #I 8 INQUIRIES: I 7. list all the cars that have been mentioned in various stories = ? Peace Everett : I 6. Lois and Clark had to move to the Arctic Circle because for some reason they could no longer lead a normal life in Metropolis = ? Alyssa : I 4. Clark gives Lois a Superman bra = ? Beppo : *Joan - COMFORTABLE AS AN OLD SHOE *Loir - COMFORTABLE AS AN OLD SHOE [Lara E. Taylor (Chyronguru@aol.com)] I 3. Lois & Clark go film a commercial for the DP = ? Beppo : *Joan - TOP BANANA [?] *Pat - TOP BANANA [?] I 1. Superman teddy for Lois made by Martha = ? Pat : I S. All stories which refer to teddies = ? Peace Everett : CHALLENGES: 20. Lois tells Lucy that Clark is Superman = ? Peace : 17. "Excel with X-El" + "'Who ever said I was nice?' Clark teased." = ? Peace : Michelle : JIMMY X [?] *****EVERYTHING PAST THIS POINT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED SOLVED***** INQUIRIES: I 5. an undercover Clark purchasing a kidnapped Lois in an auction = BLACKMAIL [?] Tracy : Bec *Bec - BLACKMAIL [?] I 2. Lois & Clark shooting a music video = MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] Nethra : Joan, Bec, Patricia *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Bec - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Patricia - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [?] CHALLENGES: 24. Clark "mortgages his underwear" for a small red Lotus = HEAVEN'S PRISONERS [Demi] Anne : Patricia, Chris Patricia - HEAVEN'S PRISONERS [Demi] Chris - HEAVEN'S PRISONERS [?] 23. Lois sing songs from the "The Sound of Music" in the shower = TRIAL AND ERROR [Kim Gammello] LoriMcE : Bec *Bec - TRIAL AND ERROR [Kim Gammello] 22. "I'm going to start calling him Brenda if you don't start working." = QUICK CHANGE [Carla Humbert] Pam : Linda *Linda - QUICK CHANGE [Carla Humbert] 21. Clark buys daisies and a rose, all for Lois + cheese and a Lincoln Town Car = MERRY-GO-ROUND [Peace] Peace : Sheila Sheila - MERRY-GO-ROUND [Peace] 19. Since this fine review [of TOMORROW NEVER DIES] was written by the critic for the Kansas City Star, which fanfic featured Clark as editor of this paper = MEET ME IN KANSAS CITY [?] Pat : Mandi, Joan *Mandi - MEET ME IN KANSAS CITY [?] *Joan - MEET ME IN KANSAS CITY [?] 18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with *Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence. = BEEFCAKE [Phil Atcliffe] Peace : Bec *Bec - BEEFCAKE [Phil Atcliffe] 16. Sam figures out Clark is Superman ... and orders him away from his daughter! = THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS [Kathy Bell] Kathy : Bec *Bec - THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS [Kathy Bell] 15. Clark works the kissing booth = MISSING YOU [Kaytee Shultz] Kathy : Bec *Bec - MISSING YOU [Kaytee Shultz] 14. Chocolate Milk, a three year old who doesn't speak English, and a woman who can't have children... A FREAK ACCIDENT [?] Adrienne : Joan *Joan - A FREAK ACCIDENT [?] 13. Claude comes back ... and Lois goes out with him! = MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] Kathy : PJ, Bec *PJ - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] *Bec - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] *Crystal - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixin] 12. Clark goes undercover as a male stripper (and no, it's not an nfic ) = GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] Kathy : Joan, Bec *Joan - GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] *Bec - GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] 11. Lois and Clark play truth or dare = TO TELL THE TRUTH [Gail Lefkowitz] *lost & gone* Kathy : PJ *PJ - TRUTH OR DARE? [?] [but she described the plot!] 10. "Oh, what a night! ... Late December back in '63 ..." = BAND [Bhavani Rao] Kathy : Bec *Bec - BAND [Bhavani Rao] 9. Random drug testing at the Planet = OOPS [Jenny Riecken] Peace : Kathy *Mandi - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - OOPS [?] 8. "Superman is probably straighter than God, actually," Jimmy informed them. "He sure hasn't hesitated to kiss you plenty of times, Lois--Superman, I mean, not God--" = DAWNING, D11 [Debby Stark] Kathy : Alyssa M, Peace *Alyssa - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] *Peace - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." = STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] Becky : Mandi, Kathy *Mandi - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] *Kathy - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" = CULINARY DELIGHTS [?] Becky : Pam *Pam Jernigan - CULINARY DELIGHTS [?] 5. "The Hero" = HEIR: RETURN [Piper] Peace : Becky *Becky - THE HEIR [?] 4. Rapunzel = CYBERLINK [Zoomway] Peace : KathyB, PJ *Kathy - CYBERLINK [Zoomway] *PJ - CYBERLINK [Zoom] 3. rollerblades *and* Lois has a very strange nightmare = ALIEN NATION? [LadeeV] Beverly : Joan *Crystal - GELLATO WITH A TWIST [?] *Mandi - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Kathy - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Joan - ALIEN NATION? [?] 2. horsechestnut shower gel = SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* Beverly : Mandi *Laurie - THE NUTMEG ROOM [MizMollee] *nfic* *Mandi - WHISKEY GALORE [Dom] *nfic* *Mandi - SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* *Ann - one of the NUTMEGs [MizMollee] *nfic* 1. Linda King & . . . Brad Pitt *and* RSVPs for wedding invitations = YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] Beverly : Michelle, Kathy *Michelle - YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [?] *Kathy - YOU DIDN't NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] S. Superman teddy = LOIS' REVENGE [B.B. Medos] Beverly : Peace, KathyB *Peace - LOIS' REVENGE [?] *Kathy - LOIS'REVENGE/CLARK'S RESPONSE [?] ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:52:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: demona Subject: Re: Author motivations In-Reply-To: <199801271558.IAA00636@sage.cncc.cc.co.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:58 AM 1/27/98 -0700, you wrote: >That's more than almost anyone wants to know, but because I clarify my own >thinking by talking (writing) it out, it's helpful to me. Sorry, guys. You >knew there was a reason why I lurk much more than I post. :) Pam, I made >it to the bottom of your post, but I don't expect anyone to make it through >this one. Sheila, I made it to the bottom of your post as well and I'm glad I did :) I'd also love to read a copy of your dissertation, whenever it will be completed, but I did have a query for you.. ;) Do you ever wake up in the middle of the night because there is a *great* scene floating in your head, and you absolutely *have* to get it down on paper, including dialogue, whether for L&C or something completely different... and despite the fact that it doesn't fit into *anything* you're currently working on? I only ask this because, I'm always so curious about meticulous planners, as to whether or not an indulgence in absolute spontaneity might carry you in some foreign direction despite months of layout and point form notes... ;P I am awed by people who can have so many details planned, so carefully, because I'm such a moment-to-moment writer, as I suppose I am with the rest of my life as well, that forethought and planning to such a degree has me sitting back in my chair contemplatively for several minutes Don't get me wrong, I do some planning, and revise and revise, and *revise*, but when I write recreationally (that is to say, not towards a deadline when I must, by definition, chart some form of course, or when one is necessarily given to me to follow ;) I don't always know how my story will end -- even when I'm in the middle of it As an admirer of your work, I will keep badgering you until you tell me too LOL Although, I suppose that writing the story out in full, and then revising it several times, as I do, would perhaps be closely akin to putting an outline down on paper and then beginning the prose afterwards... simply a different way of organising one's thoughts...aannnnd I'm thinking aloud again so I'll shut up ;P See you on IRC... ;) Demi _________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy/demona.htm --- L&C Site http://fantasia.simplenet.com/lcfantasy --- "See, the thing is, I've loved him my whole life..." _________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:41:50 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Fanfic sci-fi mag Re: Author Motivations In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19980127142542.4ba78c34@vmspop.isc.rit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Great thread...here are some snips of what I sent to the person writing >the fanfic article for the Sci-Fi magazine... > The article is out in the February 98 issue of Sci-Fi (Channel) Entertainment. They quoted me!!! Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC (volterra@sd.znet.com) http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.tempus.simplenet.com/season5/ ********************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:58:20 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Margaret Brignell Subject: Re: Author motivations Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:58 AM 27/01/98 -0700, Sheila Harper wrote: >Then, with Mxysplit/All Mxyed Up, the PG version was written first, and >after it had "aired" on TUFS, I put in the nfic scenes I'd planned from the >beginning. Ah! So that would explain why I didn't recognize it as an nfic converted to PG...it wasn't > For me, it's extremely important that stories stand on their >own, no matter what audience I'm writing for, so I work hard to make sure my >PG versions never sound like truncated nfics. Besides, I don't want my >younger readers (or those not interested in reading explicit scenes) to feel >like they're missing anything. Thank you:) I like that you are willing to take that extra effort to please *all* your fans:) I predict you will go far:) > Pam, I made >it to the bottom of your post, but I don't expect anyone to make it through >this one. Well, I do have this pending whiplash from my head jerking up as I try not to fall asleep (I'm kidding! I'm kidding! Stop! I promise I won't do it again;) >Sheila >(talking to myself, as usual) Er--So who's voice am I hearing then? Mmmm? Margaret Who tries to be organized about writing, but fails miserably;\ ****************************** Margaret Brignell brignell@capitalnet.com Ottawa, Canada %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% My fanfic now available at: http://www.capitalnet.com/~brignell/ ****************************** ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:15:45 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Regarding that last -- 1/25/98 WEEKLY UPDATE - KATHY'S CHALLENGE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ahhh, disregard that last posting . . . I'm trying to get two computers set up with copies of the same software and somehow this extra and WRONG copy of the update was left in the out-going box on the wrong computer. Sorry! I'll go hide now . . . Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:21:06 -0600 Reply-To: peabody@mcs.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pat Organization: Amarna House Subject: Re: Author motivations MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit demona wrote: > > > Do you ever wake up in the middle of the night because there is a *great* > scene floating in your head, and you absolutely *have* to get it down on > paper, including dialogue, whether for L&C or something completely > different... and despite the fact that it doesn't fit into *anything* > you're currently working on? I'm so glad to hear that this happens to other people! Now I can stop worrying about my sanity ;) I get my best ideas when I'm not *actively* writing (over lunch, while making photocopies, in the middle of the night, etc.) If I'm working on a project, I empty my purse and pockets very carefully at the end of the day, because I don't want to lose any of the post-it notes, paper napkins, or brown bag fragments that I utilized to scribble down an inspiration that seemed to come out of nowhere. And even if I don't use that scene for this particular story, I'll just drop it into that clipping file and use in something else later... I've only written one fanfic, (working on a second right now...uh, I mean I should be working on it this very minute ) which started out with an idea I woke up with one morning. The idea seemed self-contained, until I got it down on disk, and then I realized that it wasn't finished at all, it needed more. I didn't know more of what until I sat down one afternoon and started writing. What I now think of the best part of the entire fic was written in a single afternoon. That scene just seemed to take on a life of it's own, and carry itself toward it's own logical progression; I felt like I was just along for the ride. > I only ask this because, I'm always so curious about meticulous planners, > as to whether or not an indulgence in absolute spontaneity might carry you > in some foreign direction despite months of layout and point form notes... ;P I definitely fall into the category of a "meticulous planner." I use a packing list (revised periodically) when I'm going out of town for 2 days, I made my train reservations for LAFF97 six months before the actual event, and I work in a field that requires things be planned and laid out in advance (I'm a researcher/information specialist) Writing is about the only area of my life where I've learned that advance planning and carefully orchestrated plot lines are usually nothing more than a warm-up exercise. The characters (if they have *any* personality at all) will take over, and they'll take *your* story wherever they darn well please. Pat (who's going back to work on the fanfic right now; really...) -- peabody@mcs.com pattijean@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:22:00 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: L&C fanfic in fanzines MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Something that I have not heard discussed much is the publication of L&C fanfic in 'zines. Did y'all know that there are several issues out of a 'zine (published by MacWombat), containing stories by Zoomway, Jiji Baker, Carla Humbert and a number of others -- in fact, a number of the stories that made our Favorites list. There is also original art -- the L&C site features a drawing by our own = Carol Reeves (I'm not sure who did the drawing on the index page, although I recognize the photo it is from). And they have 'zines from = several other fandoms as well -- X-Files, Beauty & the Beast, Quantum Leap, etc. The 'zines can be ordered from: http://members.aol.com/macwombat/index.htm Peace A FoLC Named Peace is settling into a new home! Come visit me at my new place, and read my fanfic http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7137 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:30:25 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Re: Author motivations In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980127175208.00a3eb50@mail.tor.shaw.wave.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:52 PM 1/27/98 -0500, demona wrote: >Do you ever wake up in the middle of the night because there is a *great* >scene floating in your head, and you absolutely *have* to get it down on >paper, including dialogue, whether for L&C or something completely >different... and despite the fact that it doesn't fit into *anything* >you're currently working on? /ME! /Me, she shouts. In fact I have a L&C scene in my head that's been there since before Christmas that doesn't fit into ANYTHING I've ever done or am currently working on and ain't no way I'm writing this story. Excuse my lapsing into slang to make a point, but this is a very serious observation because it's the kind of scene that won't let go. I can see Clark, as Clark, getting angry over someone trying to hurt Lois, yet again. So angry, in fact, that he's almost ready to toast somebody. Gives the phrase 'seeing red' a completely new meaning. It's way too dark for what I like to deal with, yet it's driving me nuts because it won't go away. So what do you do when the idea sticks and it isn't even your style? Become very scared?!? Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 04:13:23 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:43 PM 1/26/98 -0500, Demi wrote: >Call the awards "The Fanfic Kerths" And the winners could receive little golden cyber Timmy statues :) Debby Debby@swcp.com wondering if it's true that NASA has decided not to explore beyond Earth orbit any more... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:07:29 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Sheila Harper Subject: How a planner plans (was Re: Author motivations) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:52 PM 1/27/98 -0500, demona wrote: >I'd >also love to read a copy of your dissertation, whenever it will be >completed.. ;) Sorry, guys, that was a joke about the long, dry nature of my post. I mentioned the degree because some of my collegues keep asking when I'm going after a second Master's (except they keep encouraging me to go for Telecommunications and I tell 'em I'm holding out for an MFA in Creative Writing :). >Do you ever wake up in the middle of the night because there is a *great* >scene floating in your head, and you absolutely *have* to get it down on >paper, including dialogue, whether for L&C or something completely >different... Wake up? No. Be standing in the shower scrubbing my hair with lather dripping in my eyes? Yes! Be in the middle of explaining a math problem to a student who has come into the learning lab for tutoring? Yes! Be driving to work with only five minutes to make a seven minute drive? Yes! Are you seeing a pattern here? When I'm physically--and sometimes mentally--occupied with something else, ideas come to me. But because I'm literally not in the position to act on them, I rehearse them in my head until I have the important dialogue, description, plot resolution, whatever, memorized. Then when I get the chance, I spend a few minutes sketching it down in the quick notes I use to break down any scene: summary of action, motivation, purpose, snatches of dialogue. >and despite the fact that it doesn't fit into *anything* >you're currently working on? Now that never happens to me. I'm a very "whole-brained" person (global and linear sides in balance, which is why I can teach math and writing with equal ease), so when I'm working out a story idea, I plan carefully, linearly, and when I come to a problem, I try logical solutions--which are usually unsatisfactory. Apparently, however, all that input *feeds* the other side of my brain because the answer just pops out in a beautifully formed whole when I'm otherwise occupied. When I'm writing fiction, I'm so intensely focused on what I'm working on that everytime I relax, my brain comes right back to my story. There is literally no room in my head for anything besides the necessary thinking to maintain life (and sometimes I wonder about that :). The spontaneous ideas that don't deal with what I'm working on come when I enter the final editing phase, when I'm receptive to other thoughts. (Would that my children were as disciplined and well-behaved as my brain--wait, one of them is! ) >I only ask this because, I'm always so curious about meticulous planners, >as to whether or not an indulgence in absolute spontaneity might carry you >in some foreign direction despite months of layout and point form notes... ;P Honestly, Demi, it's like there's a time and a place for everything. It really does take me months to plan a story because I'm in the idea-getting mode at that time. That's when I'm being spontaneous, and that's when the little idea that started the story off turns into something very different from what I had originally pictured. That's when L&C take control of the idea and push and pull it in different ways until it ... works. But once I start writing, they hardly ever get away from me--I suppose because I'm just following their lead during the planning process. >Although, I suppose that writing the story out in full, and then revising >it several times, as I do, would perhaps be closely akin to putting an >outline down on paper and then beginning the prose afterwards... I think you may be right, Demi. When I'm planning, I go through each scene as if I'm writing it--I just don't get words down on paper. And if you read my "first" drafts, you'd be surprised how very much they are like the final product: a phrase reworded here or there, maybe a short additional scene added in a couple of places, just to set something up better, but that's pretty much it. I know most people think of planning in terms of outlining, but I have a very specific pattern I follow (and not a Roman numeral in sight ). --Concept stage: writing the idea out in a sentence or two (like a TV Guide blurb). --Definition stage: writing a paragraph that gives a general beginning, middle, and end. At this point, I'm open to any wild and crazy idea, and they keep coming in a flood of weird "what-ifs." --Two-minute movie: 2 double-spaced typed pages which shows the emotional arc and the basic structure of the piece from intro, through rising action and important plot points (act-by-act, and, yes, I do plot my stories using the teaser-4 act-tag structure of L&C eps), to crisis and resolution. This is the point where the characters show me what works or not, what actions arise from what situations and lead to what conclusions. I'm throwing ideas out and hoping something is true enough to stick. That process continues in... --Scene-by-scene outline: Going from the general structure of the two-minute movie, I break each act into the number of scenes necessary to carry out the action. L&C have a great time with this stage as they direct what I'm allowed to include and what *must* be there. I shuffle scene order, take out scenes, put in new ones, and it's like Lois and Clark are hanging over my shoulder pointing out what works or not. I can almost see Lois pointing at the screen and telling me in no uncertain terms that *that* just *will not work* and demanding I change it, or Clark quietly offering, "Have you thought about...?" (And, no, L&C aren't physically there, but their presence is so strong that ... never mind. I don't have the time to spend with a Dr. Friskin, trying to explain my delusions ) --Scene-by-scene breakdown: When the scenes are shuffled to my (and L&C's :) satisfaction, I write a paragraph or so about each one, including, as I mentioned, character motivation, what the scene must accomplish, a brief summary of the action, and any dialogue that comes to mind. --And then I write. Even after all that prep, I struggle with the writing, looking for the word that will give the exact connotation, the phrase that will create exactly the picture I have in mind. Only L&C's dialogue flows out of me easily. I fight for almost every word of narration (and don't even ask about nfic--12 pages is a three-month-long task because there's so *much* narration/description). My life is pretty full, so I only have certain moments when I can write (half an hour before breakfast, 40 minutes during lunch, and half an hour before bedtime--if I don't fall asleep), so I have to be completely ready to go when I can get a little time to write. Before I leave work, I print out what I've done that day, and I usually spend that half hour before bedtime editing the printed copy until the writing is as tight and smooth as I can make it. I know, anal retentive. But that tremendous amount of structure satisfies one part of me while providing my creative side with a safe place to play. Honestly, do you know what I think the difference is between this kind of writing and the way you write? I think I have some primitive, superstitious feeling about the power of language, and I *refuse* to commit to the actual writing until I know it'll be right. Every book I've ever read says just to write and let the ideas flow and don't worry about the language or anything except getting the idea into words. *Then* clean up the writing during the editing phase. But I can't do that (although I try to on IRC), and it leaves me frustrated when I try. But this works for me, and I manage to both write and finish what I'm working on, and I guess that's all that matters. Sheila ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:57:22 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: How a planner plans (was Re: Author motivations) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 98-01-28 09:05:37 EST, sharper@CNCC.CC.CO.US writes: << But this works for me, and I manage to both write and finish what I'm working on, and I guess that's all that matters. >> Well, Sheila, if it works for you and we get some well-written stories to read, then I think we're all pleased . --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:11:51 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: "Lisa M. Ramirez" Subject: Re: How a planner plans (was Re: Author motivations) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > At 05:52 PM 1/27/98 -0500, demona wrote: > >Do you ever wake up in the middle of the night because there is a > >*great* scene floating in your head, and you absolutely *have* to get it > >down on paper, including dialogue, whether for L&C or something > >completely different... then Sheila chimed in..... > > Wake up? No. Be standing in the shower scrubbing my hair with lather > dripping in my eyes? Yes! Be in the middle of explaining a math problem > to a student who has come into the learning lab for tutoring? Yes! Be > driving to work with only five minutes to make a seven minute drive? > Yes! Are you seeing a pattern here? > > When I'm physically--and sometimes mentally--occupied with something > else, ideas come to me. But because I'm literally not in the position to > act on them, I rehearse them in my head until I have the important > dialogue, description, plot resolution, whatever, memorized. Then when I > get the chance, I spend a few minutes sketching it down in the quick > notes I use to break down any scene: summary of action, motivation, > purpose, snatches of dialogue. This has to do with editing more than writing, but I think the concept is the same. My writing is good, but my editing abilities are better (probably why I used to edit term papers in college and was paid for it and now I edit every single report that goes out of the lab for conceptual as well as language clarity and I get repeat calls to edit short stories from the English department students). Anyway, when I edit a piece, I know when a concept, paragraph, sentence, or phrase just doesn't work and I move things around, change a bit here and there to find a way to make it work or I toss it altogether. There are times however, (then and now) when I know something is wrong, but I just don't know how to fix it yet so I set the piece down and come back to it later. Eventually, the perfect word, phrase, concept order, etc. comes to mind at the most inconvenient times. In the shower.... yep. While I'm in the middle of an experimental procedure and I can't stop...uh huh. At 3:00 in the morning when I'm dead tired from a cruise or from working to much overtime and trying to catch a few hours of REM sleep.......you betcha. When this was happening in college (I think it was particularly annoying during my freshman year), I mentioned it to my dad (Dad and I would have weekly conversations then, too). He said something that has stuck with me all these years. He told me that the best way to solve a problem is to not think about it. He said that if I had been focusing on a difficulty and not getting anywhere, I needed to not think about it any more. My subconscious mind was forming a solution, but my conscious mind wouldn't accept it yet because it wasn't defined enough. The ultimate solutions spring forth at those inopportune times because that ultimate creative part of your mind doesn't have your conscious thought processes interfering. Once it finds your solution, it puts the idea into a nice, neat, reasoned package and lets your conscious mind take over. In short, don't let what SUPPOSED to happen get in the way of what CAN happen. It's all about possibilities. Let your mind wonder at them and wander through them instead of discarding them and the solutions might be more forthcoming. Easier said than done, but I'm learning. Back to editing this NSF proposal. Lisa M. Ramirez ramirez@estuary.amrl.odu.edu Never borrow trouble, the interest rate it entirely too high. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:36:31 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19980128041719.08ef0652@swcp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- > At 01:43 PM 1/26/98 -0500, Demi wrote: > >Call the awards "The Fanfic Kerths" and Debby responded cryptically: > And the winners could receive little golden cyber Timmy statues :) Sorry, Debby, you're going to have to explain that one to me... Peace doped up on pain medication, but still... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:23:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Fanfic Awards In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:36 PM -0800 1/28/98, Peace Everett wrote: >and Debby responded cryptically: >> And the winners could receive little golden cyber Timmy statues :) > >Sorry, Debby, you're going to have to explain that one to me... I think she means little "Tim Minear" statues, in honor of one of the most popular L&C writers in all 4 seasons. :) Kathy (who admits to calling him "Timmy" on IRC ;)) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________