From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG9712C" ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:30:55 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971214123554.0069c714@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ben responded to Kathy: > Well, after I thought about it some more, I realized it might make more > sense for you [with your reputation and all, you know ] to come up = with > the tests and everyone else attempt to answer correctly, but we could = do > both. I think this sounds like a lot of fun -- with some 700 stories in the arc= hive, this could make for a challenging game, not to mention stirring up = some new interest in the stories. I haven't seen a response yet to the first one suggested (Superman teddy = =3D ?) so.... /me waves hand frantically "I know! I know!" That's from = "Lois' Revenge" or is it in "Clark's Response"? Anyone care to take this= a step further and list all the stories that refer to teddies? > 1. Linda King & . . . Brad Pitt =3D ? > > 2. horsechestnut shower gel =3D ? [this was in the very first paragraph= and I > couldn't drag my eyes away from the words, wondering if it was a typo?!= ?] > > 3. rollerblades =3D ? Someone has already made a guess on this last one, which I think is corre= ct, and I confess I haven't a clue on the first two (horsechestnut shower= gel ?!?!?!?) How about: 4. Rapunzel =3D ? 5. "The Hero" =3D ? So what's the prize for the most correct guesses and/or best stumpers? Peace ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 07:54:09 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Larus2407 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-15 01:45:55 EST, you write: << > 2. horsechestnut shower gel = ? [this was in the very first paragraph and I > couldn't drag my eyes away from the words, wondering if it was a typo?!?] >> This wouldn't be from "The Nutmeg Room" would it? It just sounds like Miz Molly... --L ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 08:30:00 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Roseb11 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Help on Fanfic name Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-13 05:10:15 EST, you write: << how graphic was HEAVEN'S PRISONER? Mercedes >> Welllll, let's just say that it was graphic enough to crank up the AC or turn on the fan or get a popsickle from the freezer You choose one :-} Roseann Buonadies ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:36:57 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Kathy's Challenge: Superman teddy In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This one wasn't supposed to be an actual challenge because it was simply the first clue I could think of off the top of my head as an example the other day, but since someone responded to it, I now feel compelled to answer . . . At 12:30 AM 12/13/97 PST, Peace Everett wrote: >I haven't seen a response yet to the first one suggested (Superman teddy = ?) >so.... /me waves hand frantically "I know! I know!" That's from "Lois' >Revenge" or is it in "Clark's Response"? Um-hmmm . . . LOIS REVENGE is correct. But I suppose the same teddy did appear in CLARK'S RESPONSE, but I'd probably give another clue entirely for that one. >Anyone care to take this a step further and list all the stories that refer to >teddies? Gracious! Now that IS a question. I seem to recall at least one with a black and red teddy, but I have no idea which. Then again, I may have to read LOIS'S REVENGE again because I think she looked at a black and red one in that before finding the other! Ack! This is embarrassing. Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 09:45:42 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:30 AM 12/13/97 PST, Peace Everett wrote: >Ben responded to Kathy: >I think this sounds like a lot of fun -- with some 700 stories in the archive, this could make for a challenging game, not to mention stirring up some new interest in the stories. Ben here -- Okay, when I decided to torment, er, tease Kathy about this because I've never been able to stump her over fanfic, I didn't think about rules [primarily because it was more joke than suggestion ] but now have a few questions about them. One in particular -- how long should we give everyone to come up with the CORRECT answer before posting it? Two days? One week? Should we respond to each individual incorrect one? And to keep from having one long thread under one lump heading, how about subject headings specific to each trivia tidbit? For example: Kathy's Challenge: Superman teddy This would help with responding and discussing each individual fanfic as they come up, but it might also create too much mail traffic for the list. Or maybe not, if answering the individual guesses, right or wrong, were combined as much as possible. How heavy is too heavy? Comments? While waiting for comments, I'm going to try the individual approach to respond to the guesses so far and see how it goes. If it becomes too much, we can go back to a listing method. [I do, however, think this should be named for Kathy . . . is that a groan I hear from somewhere up north?!? ] >So what's the prize for the most correct guesses and/or best stumpers? Veddy good question . . . honorable mention as a villian in someone's next fanfic?!? I will say this, I'm collecting the responses about each into one e-mail to send out later, but so far no one has given the correct answer on any of the three challenges I sent out yesterday. Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 12:58:02 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971215094542.006aba90@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Well, I wanted to thank everyone for jumping on the bandwagon and making guesses and submitting some of their own "stumpers". I've been laid up with the stomach flu this weekend, and haven't been able to formulate any answers. But I am getting a big smile reading this thread. (Laughing with you, not at you - some of these clues are too short for me to get the answer either!) > [I do, however, think this should be named for >Kathy . . . is that a groan I hear from somewhere up north?!? ] LOL! Consider me groaning! Nah, actually I feel proud having a thread named after me. *sniff* I have such good friends. >>So what's the prize for the most correct guesses and/or best stumpers? > >Veddy good question . . . honorable mention as a villian in someone's next >fanfic?!? Well, you'll all have to look for Kathy Browne to play a role in the next few chapters of Debby Stark's Dawning (D19 coming soon!) Whether "I'm" a villian or not remains to be seen. >I will say this, I'm collecting the responses about each into one e-mail to >send out later, but so far no one has given the correct answer on any of >the three challenges I sent out yesterday. Oh, wow, none were right, huh? These were tough ones. >1. Linda King & . . . Brad Pitt = ? I remember that Sandy McDermitt put Linda King in one of her stories (which I believe were both nfics; don't remember if they were submitted to the Archive in PG as well) as a fellow author putting the moves on Clark as he went to CA to meet with his agent/publisher/whatever to shop his newest travel book. Don't remember Brad Pitt in anything though. What Brad Pitt makes me think of, however, is vampires, and there was a story set in 1st/2nd season (I think) which had Lois and Clark going to Toronto (?) to investigate some mysterious doings, and the "villians" were vampires. This may have been a cross-over story with that show ... Forever Knight? Is that the right title? In any case, Clark falls under the female vampire's spell briefly, and lets her "kiss" him. Needless to say, she was *pissed* when she broke a tooth on his neck. And yes, neither of these are probably the correct answers, but I did probably spark some interest in these old stories, eh? >2. horsechestnut shower gel = ? I have absolutely no idea! LOL! But, no, it's not from MizMolly's NUTMEG, I don't think. >3. rollerblades = ? Crystal suggested GELATO WITH A TWIST, and this was the one that popped into my mind, too. There was another one where L&C are out rollerblading and Lois is acting all cocky about it so Clark gives her a little push at the top of a big hill, just to show her what it's like to be out of control. (He catches her at the end, but I still can't believe she forgave him. I would have killed him. ) Peace got into the game with: >4. Rapunzel = ? Oh, this is one of my all time favorite stories. :) CYBER LINK by Zoomway. This one is especially fun if you IRC, since that's what Lois and Clark do in the story. But even if you don't know IRC from IOC (like Dean), I highly recommend this one. I read it months before I got on IRC and I loved it from the beginning. 5. "The Hero" = ? Ooo, I have no idea. I'm going to need more on this one. Keep it coming, guys. This is fun! Kathy (proud to have her own challenge and yes, I knew that the Superman Teddy was in REVENGE/RESPONSE, though I'm not sure which story - I have them combined into one story on my hard drive under the / title. :) Another two stories I highly recommend!) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net New Amy pictures! :) --> KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:07:35 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> 4. Rapunzel =3D ? << This one I know It's from Cyberlink, by Zoomie The others, tho, have me stumped, and I thought I had a good memory PJ !^NavFont02F0078000DMGJHGVMGXHG79C54E E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 15-Dec-1997 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/mothership/60/season5.htm ~~~~~ "The first thing she said to me was 'Herbie, get me to the Planet.' Naturally, I wondered which planet..." "Ah, Constable, you've returned. Upon reflection, I imagine this pleases= me." <-- Due South is back! :-) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:57:17 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: WBVL Mandi Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-15 13:43:09 EST, kbrown@TOOLCITY.NET writes: << >2. horsechestnut shower gel = ? I have absolutely no idea! LOL! But, no, it's not from MizMolly's NUTMEG, I don't think. >> Nope:) I *Think* The horsechestnut shower gel is from Dominique Melaragni's fanfic/nfic "Whisky Galore" ~WBVL Mandi~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:46:38 +0000 Reply-To: dom-mel@dial.pipex.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Dom Melaragni Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge In-Reply-To: <36b8a7b4.34959a10@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Mandi said > << >2. horsechestnut shower gel = ? > Nope:) I *Think* The horsechestnut shower gel is from Dominique Melaragni's > fanfic/nfic "Whisky Galore" Are the author's allowed to say yeah or nay? Incidentally, the horsechestnut shower gel is real......it's called Badedas and it smells heavenly! Dom ================================================================= Dom Melaragni (FlakeyDom) The LnC drinking game and Fest pics http://ds.dial.pipex.com/dom-mel/index.htm ?8-)] Clark Kent smiley with the superhero squarejaw chin ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:05:27 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Kathy's Challenge: horsechestnut shower gel In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:46 PM 12/15/97 +0000, Dom Melaragni wrote: >Mandi said >> << >2. horsechestnut shower gel = ? >> Nope:) I *Think* The horsechestnut shower gel is from Dominique Melaragni's >> fanfic/nfic "Whisky Galore" >Are the author's allowed to say yeah or nay? I thought about how to deal with author's after I sent my rules message and my personal opinion is NO! Okay, well, maybe, in an emergency . . . but shouldn't we let everyone else pull their hair out first?!? Lots more fun that way, I'd think. >Incidentally, the horsechestnut shower gel is real......it's called >Badedas and it smells heavenly! Hey, stop giving away hints! Although, the truth be known, they still haven't gotten this one yet, so maybe they do need the help. And while we're on the subject: At 07:54 AM 12/15/97 EST, Larus2407 wrote: ><< > 2. horsechestnut shower gel = ? >This wouldn't be from "The Nutmeg Room" would it? It just sounds like Miz >Molly... Nope. Nutmeg Room has lots of nifty concoctions in it, but I think *I* would've remembered horsechestnut shower gel . . . even in the middle of that wild story. And from our fearless one, Kathy: >>2. horsechestnut shower gel = ? >I have absolutely no idea! LOL! But, no, it's not from MizMolly's NUTMEG, >I don't think. Ahem. 'I don't think'?!? That was rather weak. You are starting to slip off the pedestal I put you on, Kathikins. Hehehehe . . . At 03:57 PM 12/15/97 EST, WBVL Mandi wrote: >Nope:) I *Think* The horsechestnut shower gel is from Dominique Melaragni's >fanfic/nfic "Whisky Galore" >~WBVL Mandi~ Ohhhhhhh . . . so close and yet so far. If you haven't figured out by now, this one has the right author but the wrong title. Why do I suddenly hear disks and papers flying all around the world?!? Beverly :-) P.S. Did we ever decide how long to give before ending the torment in the face of no correct answer? ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:36:46 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Tovie Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #5 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/15/97 2:42:59 PM, you wrote: >5. "The Hero" = ? This one comes from The Heir, it's the title of the book Lois wrote while Clark was on New Krypton. Here's some more ;-) 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." Becky tovie@aol.com For those in touch with it, Reality is the leading cause of stress. *************************************************** I\ _-'~~""'~`'~) /, ~-,--''''''''' .,-''--'''-''' A B C I,0),./ , : Katze laeuft im schnee '-~~;'0 ( : Schnee geht weg _---'' .-_.' : Katze laeuft im dreck (,_..----''' (,..--'' *********************************************** There is no fairer thing than when the lord and lady with one soul one home possess. --Homer ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:02:30 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: WBVL Mandi Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: horsechestnut shower gel Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-15 19:47:19 EST, blatham@HOP-UKY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET writes: << At 03:57 PM 12/15/97 EST, WBVL Mandi wrote: >Nope:) I *Think* The horsechestnut shower gel is from Dominique Melaragni's >fanfic/nfic "Whisky Galore" >~WBVL Mandi~ Ohhhhhhh . . . so close and yet so far. If you haven't figured out by now, this one has the right author but the wrong title. Why do I suddenly hear disks and papers flying all around the world?!? Beverly :-) P.S. Did we ever decide how long to give before ending the torment in the face of no correct answer? >> LOL okay....one more try......San Francisco Sweeties by Dom? ~Mandi the red nosed chat host~ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 19:21:45 -0600 Reply-To: peabody@mcs.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pat Organization: Amarna House Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: Superman teddy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi FoLCs, With holiday preparations taking up a lot of my time, I'm limiting my posts to the *really* important threads: > At 12:30 AM 12/13/97 PST, Peace Everett wrote: > >I haven't seen a response yet to the first one suggested (Superman teddy = > ?) >so.... /me waves hand frantically "I know! I know!" That's from > "Lois' >Revenge" or is it in "Clark's Response"? and: > >Anyone care to take this a step further and list all the stories that > refer to >teddies? Beverly Latham responded: > Gracious! Now that IS a question. I seem to recall at least one with a > black and red teddy, but I have no idea which. Then again, I may have to > read LOIS'S REVENGE again because I think she looked at a black and red one > in that before finding the other! Ack! This is embarrassing. I remember a fanfic where Lois had an actual Superman teddy, (that Martha had made for her) but I can't remember if it was a fanfic or an nfic. Are nfics included for the purposes of this discussion? Pat -- peabody@mcs.com pattijean@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:44:31 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: Superman teddy In-Reply-To: <3495D7A9.258A@mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:21 PM -0600 12/15/97, Pat wrote: >I remember a fanfic where Lois had an actual Superman teddy, (that Martha >had made for her) but I can't remember if it was a fanfic or an nfic. OK, is it just me, or is there something terribly wrong about getting excited over lingerie that your *mother* made for your wife? Kathy (still sick, but enjoying this game immensely. ;)) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net New Amy pictures! :) --> KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:48:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: horsechestnut shower gel In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971215170527.006a4670@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 5:05 PM -0600 12/15/97, Beverly Latham wrote: >Ahem. 'I don't think'?!? That was rather weak. You are starting to slip off >the pedestal I put you on, Kathikins. Hehehehe . . . LOL! Gee, I've read all 699 fanfics (and what? about 100 nfics?) - I didn't say I memorized them word for word. You gotta give me a little more to go on. I'm begging here! Kathy (looking down nervously. How did this pedestal get so high anyway? Farther distance to fall. ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net New Amy pictures! :) --> KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 19:50:41 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: horsechestnut shower gel In-Reply-To: <50796193.3495d33e@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:02 PM 12/15/97 EST, WBVL Mandi wrote: >In a message dated 97-12-15 19:47:19 EST, blatham@HOP-UKY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET >writes: ><< At 03:57 PM 12/15/97 EST, WBVL Mandi wrote: > >Nope:) I *Think* The horsechestnut shower gel is from Dominique Melaragni's > >fanfic/nfic "Whisky Galore" > >~WBVL Mandi~ > > Ohhhhhhh . . . so close and yet so far. If you haven't figured out by now, > this one has the right author but the wrong title. Why do I suddenly hear > disks and papers flying all around the world?!? > Beverly :-) > P.S. Did we ever decide how long to give before ending the torment in the > face of no correct answer? >> > >LOL okay....one more try......San Francisco Sweeties by Dom? > >~Mandi the red nosed chat host~ Bingo! I was beginning to think I was going to have to pull the story back out and look for something else to say that wouldn't be a spoiler. Thank you. Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:53:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Kathy's Challenge (#8?) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok, guys, Since everyone is torturing me by pulling out one-liners instead of plots , I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon. The following is one of my all time favorite lines from a fanfic. Can you tell me where it's from? "Superman is probably straighter than God, actually," Jimmy informed them. "He sure hasn't hesitated to kiss you plenty of times, Lois--Superman, I mean, not God--" I love it ... Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:57:56 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alyssa Mondelli Organization: Brought to you by the legal firm of Deceive, Inveigle, & Obfuscate Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge (#8?) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > "Superman is probably straighter than God, actually," Jimmy > informed them. "He sure hasn't hesitated to kiss you plenty of times, > Lois--Superman, I mean, not God--" > > I love it ... Mwa ha ha. Sounds like Debby Stark, but I gave up on trying to keep all the chapters of Dawning straight a long time ago. Pick a number between 1 and 18... 7? Okay, here's *my* challenge: I swear I remember a story where Lois and Clark had to move to the Arctic Circle because for some reason they could no longer lead a normal life in Metropolis. It's not "The Day After Christmas", though the idea is mentioned there and this story may have come from that. I've been through all 699 from Abott to Zoom and either missed it or imagined it. Huh? What biochem final? All right, all right, I'm gone... ;-> ==Alyssa in St. Paul== (agmondelli@stthomas.edu)(AlyssaM on the IRC) http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/mothership/60/index.htm "Ah yes... Coffee and the student. Those two words go together like bread and butter. Although, I wonder why we even bother brewing it. We could just eat the beans whole or grind them up and spread them on toast. It'd save us the cost of the filters." --Nancy Lemieux, "Jumeaux" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:31:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: dmj Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge:Superman Teddy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh, I have been wondering about the fanfic in which Lois had a Superman Teddy made bu Martha. I just know L&C had kids in that fanfic. I guess I have bad memory:) --- Joan aka dmj ***************************************************************** * My Lois & Clark page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dmyeung/ * ***************************************************************** Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:55:59 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge (#8?) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmm.... That sounds like something from Debby's Dawning, since there's a rumor = flying in it as to Superman's... uh... orientation, but I don't remember = that line in particular Peace A FoLC Named Peace is moving! Come visit me at my new place - http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7137 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 23:58:25 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #5 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ---------- > In a message dated 12/15/97 2:42:59 PM, Becky (Tovie) wrote: > > >5. "The Hero" =3D ? > > This one comes from The Heir, it's the title of the book Lois wrote whi= le > Clark was on New Krypton. Attagirl, Becky!! But just for the record, The Heir has been retitled = The Heir: Return Peace who's still giggling about Lois' food groups :D but hasn't a clue what it's from ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:50:12 +1100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Stosser Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge (#8?) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:53 PM 15/12/97 -0500, you wrote: >Ok, guys, > >Since everyone is torturing me by pulling out one-liners instead of plots >, I thought I'd jump on the bandwagon. The following is one of my all >time favorite lines from a fanfic. > >Can you tell me where it's from? > > >"Superman is probably straighter than God, actually," Jimmy >informed them. "He sure hasn't hesitated to kiss you plenty of times, >Lois--Superman, I mean, not God--" > > >I love it ... > >Kathy I love this line too, but for the life of me, can't recall where it was from (never was very good at this sort of quiz, i'm afraid :( ) -- Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*- (Jenerator or MoiAussie on IRC) This message is umop ap!sdn -*- David is 5 and Megan is 2! Photos on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://www.ozramp.net.au/~jenerate Please Visit! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 05:14:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Stark Subject: not what she thinks... was "Re: Kathy's Challenge" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:58 PM 12/15/97 -0500, KathyB quoted sometwo... >>>So what's the prize for the most correct guesses and/or best stumpers? >>Veddy good question . . . honorable mention as a villian in someone's next >>fanfic?!? [KB] >Well, you'll all have to look for Kathy Browne to play a role in the next >few chapters of Debby Stark's Dawning (D19 coming soon!) Whether "I'm" a >villian or not remains to be seen. *we've secretly replaced "Kathy Moreno" with Folgers Coffee Crystals; let's see if anyone notices the difference...* Also, ha-ha! I changed the end from what *you* read...! hee-hee-hee, ho-ho-ho! Debby Debby@swcp.com way far behind on fanfic reading... and still not sure what to do in D20 anyhow. :) I'll probably have someone kiss someone. That always helps :) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 10:53:45 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Vicki Krell Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: horsechestnut shower gel MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Why am I suddenly feeling that there are tons more stories out there that I have never read???? Geez, and I thought I'd read everything! Dang! Now, the next burning question after the challenge(s) has(ve) been answered, is, "where do I find these other stories????" Vicki (who would really love some new L&C to read instead of doing any of my work . . . .) Vicki.Krell@ASU.Edu P.S. Another topic entirely, and I apologize in advance: if anyone sees Beanie Babies Peace and Princess, will you please let me know? I can't find them here in Phx . . . .thanks, and we now return you to your regular broadcast listserv. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 13:20:30 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Kathy's Challenge: Linda King/Brad Pit In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 08:48 PM 12/15/97 -0500, Kathy Brown wrote: >Gee, I've read all 699 fanfics (and what? about 100 nfics?) - I didn't say >I memorized them word for word. You gotta give me a little more to go on. >I'm begging here! Oh, okaaay, maybe there is such a thing as too short. With that in mind, here's another clue: Linda King & . . . Brad Pitt *and* RSVPs for wedding invitations = ? Hmmmm? Beverly :-) P.S. I've got to pull the 'rollerblade' story back out to cull more info to pass on as non-spoiler clues. It's not GELLATO, which has been mentioned, but in one message Kathy came close to describing the whole plot, I think . . . except she didn't give a name for me to know for sure without rereading the story! ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 13:18:20 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Kathy's Challenge - Update In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:53 AM 12/16/97 -0700, Vicki Krell wrote: >Why am I suddenly feeling that there are tons more stories out there >that I have never read???? Geez, and I thought I'd read everything! >Dang! I know the feeling and I started this madness. I'm hearing about plots I certainly don't remember. >Now, the next burning question after the challenge(s) has(ve) been >answered, is, "where do I find these other stories????" That is a good question, one which reminded me of a list I started when this took off with a life of it's own. Below is a summary of the 'challenges.' Let me know if I've left any info off. Since I did begin this madness, I'll volunteer to keep track and post this update at least once a week. One thing that could be added is where the stories can be found, like regular archive, nfic, or privately but someone, ahem , is going to have to fill me on specifics. I know SAN FRANSISCO SWEETIES is nfic but where is can they be found? Oh, and one other thing, did we ever get confirmation that Rapunzel=CYBERLINK? Beverly :-) ********************* KATHY'S CHALLENGE SUMMARY [working backwards] #. trivia clue = fanfic title [author] submitted by : correct responses --- 8. "Superman is probably straighter than God, actually," Jimmy informed them. "He sure hasn't hesitated to kiss you plenty of times, Lois--Superman, I mean, not God--" = ? Kathy : 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." = ? Becky : 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" = ? Becky : 5. "The Hero" = Heir: Return [Peace] Peace : Becky 4. Rapunzel = ? Peace : 3. rollerblades = ? Beverly : 2. horsechestnut shower gel = SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] Beverly : Mandi 1. Linda King & . . . Brad Pitt = ? Beverly : S. Superman teddy = LOIS' REVENGE [B.B. Medos] Beverly : Peace, Kathy? ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:25:47 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: not what she thinks... In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19971216051946.224f1e16@swcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 5:14 AM -0700 12/16/97, Debby Stark wrote: >Also, ha-ha! I changed the end from what *you* read...! >hee-hee-hee, ho-ho-ho! Everyone loves to torture me ... ;) >Debby >Debby@swcp.com >way far behind on fanfic reading... >and still not sure what to do in D20 anyhow. :) >I'll probably have someone kiss someone. >That always helps :) It always helps ... both the reader and Lois & Clark. Kathy (and yes, the line I quoted is from Dawning, D11 to be exact. I love that line.) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:32:39 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Fanfic Archive URL (was: Kathy's Challenge) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:53 AM -0700 12/16/97, Vicki Krell wrote: >Why am I suddenly feeling that there are tons more stories out there >that I have never read???? Geez, and I thought I'd read everything! >Dang! > >Now, the next burning question after the challenge(s) has(ve) been >answered, is, "where do I find these other stories????" Vicki, Vicki, Vicki ... You still have to ask? I must be falling down on my job of promoting this enough. ;) The Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive is located at: There are currently 699 stories there (going up to 704 with the next upload). You can search by author, title, or theme (though not every story can be found by theme). You can also click on the "What's New" link and get a list of the most recently updated stories. Happy hunting! Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:44:15 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Michelle Glenn Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: Linda King/Brad Pit In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971216132030.006aa3b8@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Linda King & Brad Pitt= You Didn't Notice (The wedding invitations clue gave it away, if i'm right!) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:16:21 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: Linda King/Brad Pit In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 2:44 PM -0500 12/16/97, Michelle Glenn wrote: >Linda King & Brad Pitt= You Didn't Notice > >(The wedding invitations clue gave it away, if i'm right!) I'll admit when I'm stumped. Can you give us a plot summary on this one? This is not striking *any* bells, either the clues or the title. Kathy (off to do a "find file" on my computer, to see if I have this story.) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:26:12 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: We have a Winner - Linda King/Brad Pit In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:16 PM -0500 12/16/97, Kathy Brown wrote: >At 2:44 PM -0500 12/16/97, Michelle Glenn wrote: >>Linda King & Brad Pitt= You Didn't Notice >> >>(The wedding invitations clue gave it away, if i'm right!) > > >I'll admit when I'm stumped. Can you give us a plot summary on this one? >This is not striking *any* bells, either the clues or the title. > >Kathy (off to do a "find file" on my computer, to see if I have this story.) I found it! Michelle wins this round, hands down. >> "You Didn't Notice" - A Lois and Clark fanfiction story written by Kyla Gurganus, March 8, 1996 << It's fairly short and pretty funny - quite tongue-in-cheek in parts. I was LOL at the "punchline." It's not one I've read more than once, but it was cute to reread after this trivia question. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 14:55:00 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: Linda King/Brad Pit In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 02:44 PM 12/16/97 -0500, Michelle Glenn wrote: >Linda King & Brad Pitt= You Didn't Notice > >(The wedding invitations clue gave it away, if i'm right!) Right! We seem to be making lots of progress today. I may have to send the update out every other day if this keeps up. The challenge that's bugging me is Lois' four food groups -- that one I remember, very much, but for some reason I keep wanting to put it in an episode not a fanfic! Didn't she say something like that in OPERATION: BLACKOUT? Or another episode? Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:11:23 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Michelle Glenn Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: Linda King/Brad Pit In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971216145500.006ab378@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You know I think Lois' four food groups are from an episode too, could the fanfic maybe be one based on an episode? Michelle ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 15:54:06 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: AMCiotola Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: Linda King/Brad Pit Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Linda King & Brad Pitt....hmmmmm I vaguely remember a fanfic in which I think Jimmy1 and Jack along with Lucy lived in Chicago and I think Linda & Brad were in it...... That the only thing I can remember...but I could be wrong.. Anne ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:03:12 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: WBVL Mandi Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Rollerblades Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-16 15:58:35 EST, blatham@HOP-UKY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET writes: << 3. rollerblades = ? Beverly : >> Well, if it's not Gelatto with a twist, it must be "Out of Control" by Gina Blank :) ~Mandi~ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:09:48 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: WBVL Mandi Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Don't fall ON me, Farmboy Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-16 15:58:35 EST, blatham@HOP-UKY.CAMPUS.MCI.NET writes: << 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." = ? Becky : >> This one has gotta be "Strange Bedfellows" by Lori Gorschboth :P ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:01:41 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #6 Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" << I thought I knew this one, and I confess, I checked my hard drive and= I was right :) It's from Culinary Delights, in which Martha helps Lois cook that great spread in Season's Greedings = PJ who hasn't read all the fanfic, but who has read a lot of it !^NavFont02F0106000DMGJHG~MG39HHNA51F E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 16-Dec-1997 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/mothership/60/season5.htm ~~~~~ "The first thing she said to me was 'Herbie, get me to the Planet.' Naturally, I wondered which planet..." "Ah, Constable, you've returned. Upon reflection, I imagine this pleases= me." <-- Due South is back! :-) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 19:01:35 +0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Ann Adell Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge : Guesses In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971214123554.0069c714@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 12:35:54 -0600 > Reply-to: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" > > 2. horsechestnut shower gel = ? [this was in the very first paragraph and I > couldn't drag my eyes away from the words, wondering if it was a typo?!?] Wild guess here....could this be from one of the "Nutmeg" fics ? > > 3. rollerblades = ? I can see Lois rollerblading down that hill out of control, but the title escapes me.. I could really get into this, except I don't think not remembering the exact title is what you have in mind annlee on IRC adell@planet.net http://planet.net/adell For a fun time, visit the Wulf's Den ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:47:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: We have a Winner - Don't fall ON me, Farmboy In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 5:09 PM -0500 12/16/97, WBVL Mandi wrote: > ><< 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." = ? > Becky : >> > >This one has gotta be "Strange Bedfellows" by Lori Gorschboth :P You've got it, Mandi. I just checked the story, and this is the one. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:47:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #6 In-Reply-To: <199712161702_MC2-2C38-7082@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 5:01 PM -0500 12/16/97, Pam Jernigan wrote: >>> 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" << > >I thought I knew this one, and I confess, I checked my hard drive and >I was right :) It's from Culinary Delights, in which Martha helps Lois >cook that great spread in Season's Greedings Ah, nice to get a title for that one. We were playing this game on IRC the other night and the clue was something like "Martha and Lois bond over shopping". I guessed this one (by describing the plot the way Pam did above), but it was a different story they were thinking of. Kathy (whose face was really red, because the correct story was one that I had editted ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:47:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Rollerblades In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 5:03 PM -0500 12/16/97, WBVL Mandi wrote: >Well, if it's not Gelatto with a twist, it must be "Out of Control" by Gina >Blank :) This is the one I was thinking of, that I described the plot for. The title was on "recognize" instead of "recall" (yes, I took a lot of psych in college ) in my brain, and this is it. Thanks, Mandi. ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 21:15:11 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Rollerblades In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I wasn't going to comment on this one until tomorrow, but since everyone seems to think they know which one it is, I thought I might need to rush things up. First JCWimmer wrote: >Would the rollerblades be from Gellato with a twist?? Nope. Then Kathy Brown gives a very vague answer : >There was another one where L&C are out rollerblading and Lois is >acting all cocky about it so Clark gives her a little push at >the top of a big hill, just to show her what it's like to be out of >control. Name? ? ? And Ann Adell agreed: >I can see Lois rollerblading down that hill out of control, but the >title escapes me.. And I thought *I* was bad about names. But then WBVL Mandi wrote: >Well, if it's not Gelatto with a twist, it must be "Out of Control" by Gina >Blank :) Assuming she's talking about the same story Kathy and Ann are, at least we now have a name for it. And guess what? It ain't either of them! I diligently went back to check my facts and was rather surprised myself. Apparently, I caught the rollerblades at the beginning and nothing else the other night. Anyway, here's a bigger clue: rollerblades *and* Lois has a very strange nightmare = ? I'll go hide now. Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 19:49:40 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: dmj Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Rollerblades Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oh! Oh! Oh! I get it!!! It's Alien Nation? :) Yes, that's the one. --- Joan aka dmj ***************************************************************** * My Lois & Clark page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dmyeung/ * ***************************************************************** >I wasn't going to comment on this one until tomorrow, but since everyone >seems to think they know which one it is, I thought I might need to rush >things up. > >First JCWimmer wrote: >>Would the rollerblades be from Gellato with a twist?? > >Nope. > >Then Kathy Brown gives a very vague answer : >>There was another one where L&C are out rollerblading and Lois is >>acting all cocky about it so Clark gives her a little push at >>the top of a big hill, just to show her what it's like to be out of >>control. > >Name? ? ? > >And Ann Adell agreed: >>I can see Lois rollerblading down that hill out of control, but the >>title escapes me.. > >And I thought *I* was bad about names. > >But then WBVL Mandi wrote: >>Well, if it's not Gelatto with a twist, it must be "Out of Control" by Gina >>Blank :) > >Assuming she's talking about the same story Kathy and Ann are, at least we >now have a name for it. And guess what? It ain't either of them! I >diligently went back to check my facts and was rather surprised myself. >Apparently, I caught the rollerblades at the beginning and nothing else the >other night. Anyway, here's a bigger clue: > >rollerblades *and* Lois has a very strange nightmare = ? > >I'll go hide now. >Beverly :-) > > >******************************* >Beverly Latham >blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net >******************************* > Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:04:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Rollerblades In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971216211511.006a9940@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Gelato With A Twist Out Of Control and now Alien Nation ... Anyone else surprised there are three stories (so far!) that have L&C rollerblading? LOL! Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:15:42 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Update In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971216131820.006aa198@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beverly scolded: > Oh, and one other thing, did we ever get confirmation that Rapunzel=3DC= YBERLINK? > Beverly :-) I'm sleeping on the job, obviously -- Yes, I was thinking of Zoomie's won= derful Cyberlink when I posted the question Rapunzel=3D? And of course, 'twas the namesake of this game, Ms. Kathy Moren- um Brown= who came up with the correct answer. Peace ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:18:04 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Kathy's Challenge - #9 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971216131820.006aa198@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok, here's an interesting one: Random drug testing at the Planet=3D? Peace ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:27:19 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: dmj Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Superman Teddy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been wondering all day since Pat mentioned that Superman Teddy made by Martha. Can anyone figure out which fanfic it comes from? Kathy?:) --- Joan aka dmj ***************************************************************** * My Lois & Clark page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dmyeung/ * ******************************************************* Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:30:35 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - #9 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:18 PM -0800 12/14/97, Peace Everett wrote: >Ok, here's an interesting one: > >Random drug testing at the Planet=? > >Peace Oh, my gosh, I think this one might save my reputation. I can not only name one, but *two*. The one I think you are going for is "Little Bird" by Debby Stark. A wonderful effort all around. The other one (actually, the first one that popped into my mind) was "Oops". This isn't the DP doing the testing, but it is testing of reporters on assignment. And that ending! Oh man, I was dying. Did I get it, did I get it? Kathy (whew!) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:41:06 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Superman Teddy In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 8:27 PM -0700 12/16/97, dmj wrote: >I have been wondering all day since Pat mentioned that Superman Teddy made >by Martha. > Can anyone figure out which fanfic it comes from? Kathy?:) Don't look at me. I'm the one that said it was wrong to get sexually aroused by something your mother made. Seriously, though, this one doesn't strike any bells with me. Anyone? Pat, did you ever find this one since you brought it up? Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:28:41 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: WBVL Mandi Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - #9 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-16 23:20:20 EST, Peace9@WORLDNET.ATT.NET writes: << Ok, here's an interesting one: Random drug testing at the Planet=? Peace >> "Little Bird" -- By Debby Stark ~Mandi~ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:48:30 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - #9 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lady, you are *good* > The other one (actually, the first one that popped into my mind) was > "Oops". This isn't the DP doing the testing, but it is testing of > reporters on assignment. And that ending! Oh man, I was dying. Actually this is the one I was thinking of -- I confess I skimmed it, so = didn't remember that it wasn't DP doing the testing. Gonna have to go = back and have another look at it -- also at Debby's, which I had forgotte= n about. And for the record, in case someone is wanting to go read "Oops", it's = by Jenny Riecken, and I'm fairly sure it's in the Archive -- I think that= 's where I got it from. Peace ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 02:24:16 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - Update Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> And of course, 'twas the namesake of this game, Ms. Kathy Moren- um Brown who came up with the correct answer. << And me, too... (re: Rapunzel in CyberLink) not that I'm hungry for fame or anything (And Kathy, you have to stop answering these before I get the chance to! ) PJ (who was in D8 ) !^NavFont02F0139000FMGJHG60MG62HH3B170E E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 17-Dec-1997 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/mothership/60/season5.htm ~~~~~ "The first thing she said to me was 'Herbie, get me to the Planet.' Naturally, I wondered which planet..." "Ah, Constable, you've returned. Upon reflection, I imagine this pleases= me." <-- Due South is back! :-) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 02:28:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nethra Ankam Subject: Kathy's Challenge: A music video Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I'm a new person and haven't posted before, but when Kathy's Challenge started, I had to offer one of my own. (Partially to help my own bad memory) I remember reading a fanfic about Lois and Clark shooting a music video. Just wondering if anyone knew what it was. Nethra ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 02:26:59 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: dmj Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: A music video Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I remember reading a fanfic about Lois and Clark shooting a music video. I think it's called 'May the Best Superman win'? or am I wrong? --- Joan aka dmj(who seems to be on the net a lot nowadays coz just finished her 2nd year of med:) ***************************************************************** * My Lois & Clark page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dmyeung/ * ***************************************************************** Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:53:23 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bec Cordingley Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: A music video In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19971217022817.10af6310@email.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, I think the fanfic you're thinking of, Nethra, is 'May The Best (Super) Man Win' by Kendra Prince. It's a great fic! I think there's another music video fanfic out there somewhere but I can't remember the name. Hope this helped. Bec :) At 02:28 17/12/97 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, I'm a new person and haven't posted before, but when Kathy's Challenge >started, I had to offer one of my own. (Partially to help my own bad memory) > >I remember reading a fanfic about Lois and Clark shooting a music video. > >Just wondering if anyone knew what it was. > >Nethra > > ************************************************************************ cranwell@merlin.net.au http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8721/cfs2.html "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men!" -- Willy Wonka ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:17:55 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Patric6928 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: A music video Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-17 03:15:15 EST, you write: << I remember reading a fanfic about Lois and Clark shooting a music video. >> Okay, I'll take a stab at this one. I think the title was "May the Best Superman Win". Great story! Patricia ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:54:18 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Teh Bepster Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: A music video & Superman Teddy In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971217205323.006cd9a4@203.20.228.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey FoLCs, While I have absolutely *no* clue which fics the music video & teddy appeared in, they reminded me of two more stories I read awhile ago: one where Lois & Clark go film a commercial for the DP and another where Clark gives Lois a Superman bra... Beppo cyyi@musica.mcgill.ca ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:21:46 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Fanfic Archive Submissions over Christmas Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi FoLCs, Just wanted to let everyone know that I won't be assigning any new stories to editors over the Christmas holiday. Any new stories that are submitted between today (December 17, 1997) and the first week of January 1998 will be held until January. To be safe, you may want to just hold onto your stories until January 10th or so, and submit them then. There are several stories outstanding with editors at the moment, and any of these returned to me before December 22, 1997 should make it to the Archive by the end of the year. Edited stories returned to me on or after Dec. 23 may or may not make it to the Archive before January 10. I'll do my best, but I'll be working with my laptop (with a slower modem) and can't make any promises, especially for long stories. Thanks for your understanding. There may not be many new stories uploaded in the next few weeks, but rest assured we'll be back to normal in January with new fanfic for your reading pleasure! If you have any questions, please email me at the address below, or at . Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:39:46 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Update on Kathy's Challenge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, FoLCs, Here's the update as of this posting. Just a couple of things to note. First, I've added some scattered items I call inquiries because they aren't actually challenges by someone who knows the story and title. They are attempts to locate the stories and still fun to do. These should probably be Kathy's REAL challenges. Also, I figured out a simple way to note fanfics not on the L&C Archive, but please let me know if I miss any nfics or privately held ones. Last, I've begun listing the responses as they come in, right or wrong, partly to save my sanity and partly to be fair to everyone. Plus, it is also a way to list other similiar stories people might want to make note of. Oh, one other thing, while I'd personally LOVE to be able to take our honored Kathy's word, or anyone else's, on whether a story is the correct answer, to be fair and accurate, the submitter of the challenge or inquiry should confirm the correct answer for the record. This I learned from personal experience when all those rollerblade stories unexpectedly came out of the woodworks. Who would've thought Lois & Clark would have an undiscovered rollerblade fixation? Beverly :-) *********************** KATHY'S CHALLENGE SUMMARY NOTE: Items labeled with I# are inquiries about fanfics someone is trying to find, not where they already know the titles NOTE: Unless otherwise noted as *nfic* [distributed by Debby's nfanfiction list] OR *private* [distributed privately by author], all fanfics discussed are available at the LOIS & CLARK FANFICTION ARCHIVE at: #. trivia clue = fanfic title [author] submitted by : correct responses *all responses listed as recieved, right or wrong ****************************** AS OF THIS POSTING: Unresponded to: I 4. Clark gives Lois a Superman bra = ? I 3. Lois & Clark go film a commercial for the DP = ? I 1. Superman teddy for Lois made by Martha = ? I S. All storied which refer to teddies = ? Responded to but unconfirmed by submitter: I 2. Lois & Clark shooting a music video = ? Nethra : *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Bec - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [?] 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" = ? Becky : *Pam Jernigan - CULINARY DELIGHTS [?] ****************************** **WORKING BACKWARDS** I 4. Clark gives Lois a Superman bra = ? Beppo : I 3. Lois & Clark go film a commercial for the DP = ? Beppo : I 2. Lois & Clark shooting a music video = ? Nethra : *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Bec - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [?] 9. Random drug testing at the Planet = OOPS [Jenny Riecken] Peace : Kathy *Mandi - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - OOPS [?] 8. "Superman is probably straighter than God, actually," Jimmy informed them. "He sure hasn't hesitated to kiss you plenty of times, Lois--Superman, I mean, not God--" = DAWNING, D11 [Debby Stark] Kathy : Alyssa M, Peace *Alyssa - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] *Peace - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] I 1. Superman teddy for Lois made by Martha = ? Pat : 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." = ? Becky : *Mandi - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] *Kathy - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" = ? Becky : *Pam Jernigan - CULINARY DELIGHTS [?] 5. "The Hero" = HEIR: RETURN [Peace] Peace : Becky *Becky - THE HEIR [?] 4. Rapunzel = CYBERLINK [Zoomway] Peace : KathyB, PJ *Kathy - CYBERLINK [Zoomway] *PJ - CYBERLINK [Zoom] 3. rollerblades *and* Lois has a very strange nightmare = ALIEN NATION? [LadeeV] Beverly : Joan *JCWimmer - GELLATO WITH A TWIST [?] *Mandi - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Kathy - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Joan - ALIEN NATION? [?] 2. horsechestnut shower gel = SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* Beverly : Mandi *Laurie - THE NUTMEG ROOM [MizMollee] *nfic* *Mandi - WHISKEY GALORE [Dom] *nfic* *Mandi - SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* *Ann - one of the NUTMEGs [MizMollee] *nfic* I S. All storied which refer to teddies = ? Peace : 1. Linda King & . . . Brad Pitt *and* RSVPs for wedding invitations = YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] Beverly : Michelle, Kathy *Michelle - YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [?] *Kathy - YOU DIDN't NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] S. Superman teddy = LOIS' REVENGE [B.B. Medos] Beverly : Peace, KathyB *Peace - LOIS' REVENGE [?] *Kathy - LOIS'REVENGE/CLARK'S RESPONSE [?] ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:12:33 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: CieKay Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: Four Foodgroups MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In "Operation Blackout" Lois ordered pizza by fax. While she had with Clark that great discussion about technologie. Clarks reaction to her question if he wants anything from the pizza service is really funny. BTW, This Challenge is a great idea, it's so much fun to reread the stories. Sylvia CieKay2@aol.com symueller@metronet.com -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" Re: Kathy's Challenge: Linda King/Brad Pit >At 02:44 PM 12/16/97 -0500, Michelle Glenn wrote: >>Linda King & Brad Pitt= You Didn't Notice >> >>(The wedding invitations clue gave it away, if i'm right!) > >Right! We seem to be making lots of progress today. I may have to send the >update out every other day if this keeps up. The challenge that's >bugging me is Lois' four food groups -- that one I remember, very much, but >for some reason I keep wanting to put it in an episode not a fanfic! Didn't >she say something like that in OPERATION: BLACKOUT? Or another episode? >Beverly :-) > > >******************************* >Beverly Latham >blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net >******************************* > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:36:05 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: New - Kathy's Challenge #10-13 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I *think* we are on #10. These might be too easy, but these are some of my favorite stories. :) 10. "Oh, what a night! ... Late December back in '63 ..." 11. Lois and Clark play truth or dare. 12. Clark goes undercover as a male stripper (and no, it's not an nfic ) 13. Claude comes back ... and Lois goes out with him! Ok, that's enough for now. I'm sure I'll come up with more, once these are answered. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:36:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Favorite Christmas Stories Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok, this isn't exactly a challenge, but I was thinking that, in light of the coming holiday, it would be fun to get recommendations on which Christmas fics to read (or reread). So, everyone, what is your favorite Christmas fanfic? Which one do you pull out every December and read to get in the holiday mood? Kathy (all the poor people who joined this list expecting low volume are ready to kill me right now. ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:07:10 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LStroh1856 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: horsechestnut shower gel Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-15 19:47:07 EST, you write: << >Incidentally, the horsechestnut shower gel is real......it's called >Badedas and it smells heavenly! >> With all the cut and pastes it's really hard to tell who wrote what but I was wondering of the person who scripted the above would care to let us know WHERE we can get some of that heavenly smelling shower gel? I'm always on the lookout for stuff like that. Thanks, Laurie LStroh1856@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:18:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: New - Kathy's Challenge #10-13 Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> 10. "Oh, what a night! ... Late December back in '63 ..." << Not a clue. I mean, I know it's a song, but I don't know what fic it was= in. >> 11. Lois and Clark play truth or dare. << Um... TRUTH OR DARE? I know they were stuck in an elevator, and I'm nearly certain it was a pre-revelation fic, with heavy romantic leanings.= =2E. that's not what you were asking for, was it? No, you want the actual *title* and even the *author*... (Is it cheating to check one's hard drive to help one's memory along? At= any rate it's fun to look at old stories again ) (The really pathetic= thing is when you cheat and you *still* can't find the story you were looking for ) >> 12. Clark goes undercover as a male stripper (and no, it's not an nfic ) << Oh, I remember this one, I laughed *so* hard, because I could just *see* him... No title comes to mind, tho. >> 13. Claude comes back ... and Lois goes out with him! << Menage a Trois, by Vixen. I think there was a sequel, too, but I don't know what it was called. PJ whose memory is not as good as she might have thought! !^NavFont02F0360003BMGJHGxMGzHG6DMG6FHG8EMG90HI`MIbHI58MI5AHIB5MIB7HIE2MI= E4 HJ6 1983F E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 17-Dec-1997 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/mothership/60/season5.htm ~~~~~ "The first thing she said to me was 'Herbie, get me to the Planet.' Naturally, I wondered which planet..." "Ah, Constable, you've returned. Upon reflection, I imagine this pleases= me." <-- Due South is back! :-) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:32:57 -0600 Reply-To: renate@mcs.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rhen Subject: Re: New - Kathy's Challenge #10-13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam Jernigan wrote: > >> 11. Lois and Clark play truth or dare. << > > Um... TRUTH OR DARE? I know they were stuck in an elevator, > and I'm > nearly certain it was a pre-revelation fic, with heavy romantic > leanings... > that's not what you were asking for, was it? No, you want > the actual > *title* and even the *author*... Well, you won't find this one in the archive - Gail wrote it a loooong time ago and then decided she didn't want any of her stuff archived. She also asked that it not be distributed again ... just classify it as lost and gone ... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:33:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joan Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com) Subject: (No Subject) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok, let me see how many I can figure out. I 4. Clark gives Lois a Superman bra = Comfortable as an old shoe? 12. Clark goes undercover as a male stripper=Gypsy Clarkie [Marta Olson] --- Joan aka dmj ***************************************************************** * My Lois & Clark page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dmyeung/ * ***************************************************************** Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:12:19 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bec Cordingley Subject: Re: New - Kathy's Challenge #10-13 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >These might be too easy, but these are some of my favorite stories. :) > > >10. "Oh, what a night! ... Late December back in '63 ..." 'Band' By Bhavani Rao >11. Lois and Clark play truth or dare. Hmm.. I'm not sure about this one.. >12. Clark goes undercover as a male stripper (and no, it's not an nfic ) 'Gypsy Clarkie' By Marta Olson >13. Claude comes back ... and Lois goes out with him! 'Menage a Trois' By Vixen I think these are right.. although it's very early morning and my brain isn't quite in gear so I can't be too sure :) Bec :) ************************************************************************ cranwell@merlin.net.au http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8721/cfs2.html "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men!" -- Willy Wonka ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:01:10 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #11 (truth or dare) In-Reply-To: <34985318.81975ED3@mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 4:32 PM -0600 12/17/97, Rhen wrote: >> >> 11. Lois and Clark play truth or dare. << > >Well, you won't find this one in the archive - Gail wrote it a >loooong time ago and then decided she didn't want any of her >stuff archived. She also asked that it not be distributed again >... just classify it as lost and gone ... Well, this one was news to me, that Gail pulled her stuff off the main Archive as well. I knew she didn't give her nfic anymore, but her PG stuff too?? Now that's a loss. Gee, I'll have to go through my files and identify which are hers. They might become valuable someday if they are this rare. Luckily I got this story way back when Major Domo ;) was archiving our fanfic. But yes, the title is TO TELL THE TRUTH by Gail Lefkowitz. Pam decribed the plot - a pre-revelation story, extrememly romantic, not to mention fun and just the least bit steamy. Lois and Clark get stuck in an elevator, and to pass the time, they play truth or dare. Sorry, if I knew it wasn't on the Archive anymore, I wouldn't have made a question out of it. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:17:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Answers - Kathy's Challenge #10, 12 & 13 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971218091219.006ccc20@203.20.228.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 9:12 AM +1000 12/18/97, Bec Cordingley wrote: >>10. "Oh, what a night! ... Late December back in '63 ..." > >'Band' By Bhavani Rao Yup, this is the one. I just reread it, before posting the question. It still makes me smile. The only one with this particular plot, I believe. Clark's buddies from college get their band back together for one gig. Clark is casually dating both Mayson and Molly ... but it's Lois he really wants to show his feelings for. Bec and Joan guessed: >>12. Clark goes undercover as a male stripper (and no, it's not an nfic ) > >'Gypsy Clarkie' By Marta Olson Right again. A fun story. I always wanted to ask her if she did any research. Pam and Bec guessed: >>13. Claude comes back ... and Lois goes out with him! > >'Menage a Trois' By Vixen Also correct! I highly recommend this one for anyone who hasn't read it. I would have loved to see something like this done on the show. I've always found this fanfic very satisfying. I love it when Clark acts like this. The sequel that Pam mentioned is called "Pas de Deux", also by Vixen. Vixen, btw, is my buddy Kathy P. from up the road. (Hi Kathy! You on this list? ) You guys are good. I'll have to make them harder next time. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:28:22 +1100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: A Vukovic Subject: Kathy's Challenge #14 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" A previous mention in a challenge reminded me of one of my favourite older stories. You figure out which it is: #14. Chocolate Milk, a three year old who doesn't speak English, and a woman who can't have children... Did I make that too easy? Adrienne _________________________________________________________________________ Adrienne VUKOVIC aev@cia.com.au _________________________________________________________________________ "How can you be so blind, Lois? I mean, you look right at the guy, and still you don't have a clue who he really is." Clark Kent to Lois Lane: BatP, "Lois and Clark:TNAOS" _________________________________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:40:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Kathy's Challenge - #15 & 16 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" OK, let's see if these are a little harder. 15. Clark works the kissing booth. 16. Sam figures out Clark is Superman ... and orders him away from his daughter! Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:44:18 +0000 Reply-To: dom-mel@dial.pipex.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Dom Melaragni Subject: Xmas Fic Rerun - Twas the Week Before Christmas 1/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi guys As it's now officially a week before Christmas, I thought I'd repost one of my first fics - which was written 2 years ago and was the first fic where Flakes made an appearance! This is the non nfic version - the 'original' can be obtained from joyceef@mcs.com if you tell her that you're over 18 and won't redistribute it. The same goes for San Francisco Sweeties - the one with the horsechestnut shower gel! Dom ************ Twas The Week Before Christmas by Dom Melaragni Twas the week before Christmas and all through the Planet, not a creature was still, not even a mouse, except for the figure of Lois Lane who was sitting, gazing at her computer monitor. Perry looked up from his desk and chuckled as he watched everyone run around. Perry loved Christmas but the Christmas week issues of the Planet had so many special supplements that he was a touch irritable and the newsroom knew it. He noticed Lois and gave her the benefit of the doubt - she rarely saw his doghouse. Heck, she was probably trying to think of another take on yet another headless corpse story - they had become two a penny recently and new angles were hard to come by! He turned back to his desk and the pile of articles for submission, and groaned when he saw the one on the top of the pile - Superman tops Metropolis' Women's Xmas Wish List - another of Jimmy's attempts at a Christmas fluff piece. ************************ Lois hadn't moved and contrary to what Perry thought, it wasn't the headless corpse that was foremost in her thoughts. She was desperately trying to think of what to buy Clark for Christmas. She hated buying presents but had made a firm resolution to start early this year and she had. But events had conspired against her and now there were only 6 shopping days left until Christmas and she still had nothing for Clark. She had dragged herself out once or twice and had discovered that buying presents for people you cared about could be fun. She'd found great presents for her parents, for Lucy and for Martha and Jonathan but Clark's was proving difficult. She wanted something special to mark their first Christmas together as a couple and knowing Clark, she knew that he would've found something wonderful for her. Lois wanted to get him something equally as wonderful even though deep inside she knew he would love whatever she gave him. ************************ Perry finished Jimmy's article - didn't they teach kids to spell anymore these days?- and reflected that with a bit of work, it might do as a spacefiller on Christmas Eve when the real news was thinner on the ground than happy turkeys. He glanced up to check on the newsroom, leapt out of his chair and stalked out into the newsroom. "There's a week until Christmas so put that mistletoe away. We've got a newspaper to put out!" On his way back to the office, he saw that Lois was actually just sitting in front of a blank monitor and hadn't even glanced up during his diatribe. "Lois!" He said ... no answer; the kid was lost in space! "LO - IS!" he shouted. She started and looked up. "If you don't have an angle on the corpse story, leave it and find something fresh to do." "OK, Perry", she turned back to the monitor "Judas Priest, woman, get out of here! Stories don't just fall down chimneys you know!" ************************ Lois stood outside the Planet again. She had been to all her usual haunts, bought a Christmas Lunch special with all the trimmings for Bobby Bigmouth and still had no story. Truth be told, Metropolis was in festive spirit and there was little news. Clark was busy at Metropolis Zoo, helping the keepers refit the entire Zoo to more natural surroundings for the animals. He was even there officially, Perry thought that the environmentally friendly, politically correct move would make an interesting feature. Now that she didn't have to watch Bobby guzzling, Lois found she was quite hungry and decided to go for lunch and hope for inspiration. While waiting for her Cafe Belgian Mocha to arrive, she thumbed through a woman's magazine that someone had left on the chair beside her. Idly, she noticed that it was the current Christmas edition and they had a section on gift ideas. 'Presents for the Man in Your Life! - if you can't find a gift here, then he must already have everything!'- "This is what I need!", she grinned and settled down to read ... 'If your man's taste in neckwear is dull, why not jazz up his outfits with a snazzy silk tie with an outrageous design' - "Nope," thought Lois, "that's no good, no one could ever describe Clark's ties as boring." 'If your man does a lot of outdoor activities' - "promising," thought Lois "I suppose that being Superman could be described as outdoor activity" - ' why not buy him a pair of Calvin Klein longjohn style pants to keep him warm on frosty nights?' - "Hmm, no good, Clark doesn't get cold and if he did, it'd be me warming him up. And besides he's already got tights." 'Why not give the man in your life, the gift of peace, quiet and tranquillity?' -" Now Clark would like that!" - ' let him drift through the clouds in a hot air balloon!' Lois threw the magazine down onto the table in disgust. "Huh, what do I get the man who has everything?" The back of the magazine had the answer - 'Where do you find the perfect gift for the man who has everything? In Bon Marche, the department store that has everything!'. "OK", thought Lois, "I'll go there, maybe I'll even find a story!" ************************ Clark leant against a rock in what had been the gorilla enclosure and enjoyed a moment's rest. Helping to move the gorilla family had been fun and because Superman had just walked the animals to their new enclosures, none of the animals had needed to be drugged. He only had one more task to do, superfreeze the penguins new habitat so they could move into it tonight and then he could be off and finish buying Lois' Christmas present. He had wondered long and hard about what to buy her for Christmas, he had given her a star from heaven last year, how was he supposed to top that? Give her the moon? But at last, he had had inspiration! ************************ Lois wandered around the Bon Marche with a large shopping basket. The place was a treasure trove of presents and she had already picked up a few additional gifts for Martha, Jonathan and Lucy. For Lucy, she had bought a Dalmation fake fur hat that she knew Lucy would love, despite the fact that it looked ridiculous. For Jonathan, she had found a glass jar filled with satsumas, soaked in caramalised Cointreau and a jar of tipsy Scottish marmalade. She had found something great for Martha too, lots of little kitchen goodies, like Olive Oil with herbs in it, dried chillies and jars of spices layered in brightly coloured stripes. Even if Martha didn't use them to cook with, she could always paint them. She had seen lots of little things that she knew Clark would like but nothing special, so she decided to make him up a stocking to open in bed on Christmas morning. On the menswear department, she couldn't resist buying him a tie. There had been a big sign saying, 'Is your man a Superman?' above some Superman merchandise. She had considered getting him the briefs but then saw a tie, adorned with tiny, subtle 'S' shields and couldn't resist it - seeing as how she was the only woman in Metropolis who could truthfully answer the question with a 'yes!'. She had also seen a pair of figure hugging boxer briefs that she thought Clark would look good in and then she'd had to buy a Calvin Klein T-shirt 'cos she thought it was quite funny that it had CK written across it. She shook her head, she was in a strange mood, what had that cafe put in her coffee? Wandering through the shop, she had also bought some other items for the stocking, a meditation CD and a couple of books that Clark had been meaning to buy for ages including 101 Reasons Why I'm Late For Work - with a few adaptations, it could work quite well, she thought. On the gift foods section, whilst buying the items for the others, she had also been able to get a few things for Clark although she had debated for some time over one item. She had already picked up the little chest with a selection of teas from around the world, not only did it have Oolong and Lapsang Souchong, it also had her favourite, Orange Pekoe. Beside the chillies that she had bought for Martha, she found some other Mexican delicacies and decided to buy Clark a Nachos gift box which contained some spices, salsa and a large packet of crispy Fritos. But she wasn't sure who she was buying the pot of chocolate paint for. It had a little paintbrush and some instructions - 'place pot in a tub of hot water and allow to melt, then use your imagination'. Lois imagined opening the little pot of paint. In her mind's eye, she could see Clark like a big blank canvas waiting for her. She picked up the brush and slowly dipped it into the paint. The thick chocolate dripped from the end of the brush. Lois was jolted back into the present by a woman stretching over to look at the pots of paint. Lois caught her eye and grinned conspiratorially. Lois dropped a pot into her basket, she didn't know who would enjoy it more - her or Clark! Lois smiled to herself, they were both going to have fun finding out! ************************ Clark whirled back into his street clothes and watched a penguin slide on its tummy down a fresh ice run and into the pool. Now he could go and buy one last thing for Lois' Christmas stocking. While he had been looking for inspiration for Lois' main present, he had seen lots of little things that he thought she might like so he had decided to make her up a stocking. He was really only shopping for that, he had bought everyone else's weeks beforehand. Clark loved Christmas and generally got into the Christmas spirit earlier rather than later. He had already gotten a few things for the stocking, a cookery book, some underwear, though he wasn't quite sure who would appreciate it more and a chocaholics survival kit with hot chocolate, chocolate sauce, chocolate spread, a 70% cocoa chocolate bar and membership of the World Chocolate Lovers Society. He'd also bought a copy of Pocket Scrabble with an electronic dictionary to which he'd added the word, "chumpy", a Dinah Washington CD, a few strawberry liquorice twizzlers, a novel that Lois had been mentioning for ages and a few other knick knacks. He had seen this item last time he had gone shopping but hadn't been sure whether or not he should buy it. Finally, he decided to go ahead and get it - he knew Lois would like the idea of it but would she think that he was getting it for his own gratification. He had finally decided to get it - it would be fun finding out who appreciated it more. He went into Tyrrels department store and wandered across to the novelty section. He picked up the pot of chocolate paint and went over to the cash register. While he was waiting in the queue, he overheard a worried conversation between two managerial looking people. "Has anyone worked out how they got in yet?" "No, the cameras all went off suddenly and came back pointing at the empty toy department." "What about the security guards?" "They were found fast asleep at the doors - it took us several coffees to wake them up properly and it's been proven that they weren't drunk" "So it's a mystery?" "Yes, and meanwhile, we've got lots of customers who had ordered items and aren't going to get them until later now!" Clark was prodded in the ribs by the woman standing behind him to hurry up and make his purchase. "Probably nothing in it," he thought. ************************ Lois decided to go down to the toy department and get some silly puzzles for Clark. He had such good hand to eye coordination that she knew that whatever she bought would have to be something difficult. She eventually settled on an Escher jigsaw which had a painting of a strange house which was on both sides and rotated through 90 degrees on one side. That should prove taxing enough even for his supermind! Even although she hadn't found Clark's main present yet, she felt a little better, at least she had got some things for him. Waiting in the queue, Lois listened to the woman in front of her arguing with the shop assistant. She was complaining that her order hadn't arrived yet. The shop assistant tried to explain that two entire lorry loads of stock had been stolen from the warehouse two nights before and they were having to try to get all the stock again from the suppliers. The woman didn't want to accept this explanation saying that two lorries don't just disappear. "But," said the assistant, "that's what happened, there's been no sign of them on any road and none of the stock has turned up and it was all very saleable Christmas present - type of stock." Lois eventually got to the till point and was served. She asked the assistant, if the trucks hadn't been seen leaving the estate where the warehouse was. "No," said the assistant, "they just vanished, the cameras watching the loading bays just went dead and no one's seen them since." Hah, thought Lois, perhaps the Bon Marche does have everything, even stories. ************************ Lois was sitting back at her desk in the Planet, after dropping her purchases off at home. She tried to contact the security firm who watched the industrial estate that the Bon Marche's warehouse was in but got nowhere. She tried to get a statement from the shop but they were trying to keep such a breach in security quiet. She called Bobby Bigmouth, seeing as how he owed her for his Christmas Lunch earlier and extracted a promise to get information and fast. She sighed and put her head in her hands. Suddenly she felt a warm breath and a quick kiss on the nape of her neck. She turned round. "Clark!". "Your monitor's blank, what *have* you been doing all day?" "Looking for something to write about. How was the Zoo?" "The animals are all safely rehoused. So, what've we got?" "Well, there was a strange break in at the Bon Marche two nights ago. Two lorries of stock were stolen and no one has seen them since." "Hmm, strange, Tyrrel's had a break in last night and it was equally mysterious. Maybe there's something in this!" "Well, what are we waiting for? Let's get on it!" ************************ Three hours later, Lois looked over at Clark's desk. He was engrossed in a document that Jimmy had dug up from the Planet archives. She glanced at her watch, it was late, very late. Most of the other staffers had gone home since it had been a very quiet news day. She knew that she and Clark wouldn't even have been interested in this story if there had been anything more exciting available. Lois decided that she was bored. Bobby wouldn't be in touch until the next day now and they had read over everything they had several times and nothing had jumped out at them. She wandered over to Clark's desk and kissed him lightly. He returned it and smiled. "I need to go home. I've just read this page five times and I still don't know what it actually says." "Likewise, perhaps there's nothing in this and the stores are just being ripped off by a clever insider who's good at manipulating camera evidence. Let's leave it until tomorrow" "Agreed, so do you want to come back to my place ... for dinner or something?" "Can't I have both?" Lois grinned wickedly as Clark's face showed that he hadn't realised the implications of what he had asked. "Sure, Clark, you've probably got more edible things in your refrigerator than I have but just so long as you have dessert." ************************ Lois leant her head on Clark's shoulder as they walked hand in hand along the road. It was a frosty but clear night and they had decided that it would be nice to walk home and get some fresh air. As they walked along, they looked at the shop windows all decked out in Christmas scenes and talked about Christmas. "So are you all ready to come out to Smallville for Christmas?" "Yes, I've even bought most of my presents and wrapped them." "I'm impressed, Lois, you usually hate shopping for presents. So what did you get me?" "It's a surprise," Lois didn't want to admit that she hadn't found his present yet, "and I'm planning on putting it in a leadlined box so you can't peek at it under the Christmas tree. Notice I haven't asked what you've bought me - I can wait and be surprised." Clark laughed, "What happened to the woman who said that she only liked surprises when she knew about them in advance. So you're not the least bit curious about your present?" "No, ...well....yes but I'm not going to be spoiled. I'm just going to wait until Christmas." "That's just as well, 'cos I wouldn't have told you anyway." Lois playfully slapped Clark on the chest. "Huh!" she snorted and was about to reply when Clark suddenly stopped walking and stopped in front of the window of a Hi Fi shop. "I really do need a new stereo. 'Cos my hearing's so sensitive it just picks up all the crackling from the speakers though I suppose that would happen no matter what machine I bought. Still it might not be as bad as it is at the moment." Lois thought, "Hmmm, well if I get really stuck, then I know what to buy him but I want to get him something more personal that we can look back on with our grandchildren and say, that's what Lois bought me our first Christmas together." Lois shivered as Clark looked in the window. He glanced over. "Sorry, come on, Let's get home and into the warmth." This time he didn't take her hand but put his arm round her to try to heat her up. Lois grinned, she wasn't really interested in hi-fi and her ploy to both get home quicker and get closer to Clark had worked perfectly. ************************ ================================================================= Dom Melaragni (FlakeyDom) The LnC drinking game and Fest pics http://ds.dial.pipex.com/dom-mel/index.htm ?8-)] Clark Kent smiley with the superhero squarejaw chin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:44:18 +0000 Reply-To: dom-mel@dial.pipex.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Dom Melaragni Subject: Xmas Fic Rerun - Twas the Week Before Christmas 2/2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT ************************ Lois put her empty bowl down on the table and snuggled back into Clark's side on the sofa. They had decided to eat dessert an hour or so after dinner while watching the TV. "That vanilla ice cream was wonderful with the apple crumble. Thanks for a lovely dinner." "You're welcome. I decided that chocolate didn't really go with apple crumble though I hope you appreciated the bits of flaked chocolate on the top." "I did, it was gorgeous. Now why don't they make full bars of chocolate that taste that good? I mean, I suppose you could eat lots of little bits of it but it would be so much better if someone would sell it before they broke it all up." Clark stood up and went over to the kitchen. He opened one of the cupboards and took out a pack of yellow wrapped chocolate bars. He took one out and went back over to the sofa. "Here, consider this an early Christmas present. In Britain, they sell chocolate that flakes apart but they sell it in a bar." Lois looked at it. It was a long, thin six inch bar of chocolate. "Hey, they even call it a Flake" "There is a knack to eating it, Lois, if you're not careful, it'll break up all over you. Just slide an inch or so out of the packet and eat it slowly but watch out, I don't want everything covered in little flakes of chocolate." "Hmm, this is gorgeous," Lois closed her eyes as she began to eat the Flake. Clark watched fascinated as her mouth closed around the end of the chocolate and mentally shook himself. He decided that he should go and tidy the kitchen before he lost what self control he had. Lois stood in the elevator the next morning, smiling to herself. It was nearly Christmas and this year she was going to spend it with the man she loved. Now if she could only think of a suitable present. She looked up at Clark and smiled. He glanced down and their eyes met and spoke volumes. She reached out for his hand and squeezed it. He grinned back and they walked out into the newsroom. Perry watched them enter hand in hand. He remembered a time when Lois wouldn't let a man near her but Clark had persevered and now he had got his reward. Perry had felt a bit like a successful matchmaker when they had announced their engagement seeing as how it was him who had forced them to work together. He smiled and walked out into the newsroom. "Lane! Kent! Come in here now!" he couldn't appear too happy after all. ************************ Lois sat in the chair in Perry's office with Clark standing behind her, outlining the story they were working on. Perry huffed, " Well, it's more than anyone else has got but it'd better be a good one! On you go!" Jimmy came up to Lois' desk as she and Clark sat down with their coffee. "Have you guys heard about Mindy Church? She's responded to the wishes of Bill to try to help the world and she's announced that she's going to give Christmas presents to the old and needy of Metropolis. What a woman! I know that she's rich but it still must be going to cost her a lot of money." Lois and Clark looked at each other, "Not necessarily! Thanks Jimmy," putting down their coffee, they ran for the elevator. Jimmy was left standing in their wake looking very confused. ************************ "So you're thinking what I'm thinking. Mindy Church has organised these thefts from the department stores so that she can look like a benevolent Mrs Claus on Christmas Eve." "Well, Clark, it sounds feasible. Intergang probably has contacts in these stores that could arrange for blank tapes to be put in the cameras and to configure the security systems so that they don't respond to intruders." "Right! So let's find Bobby and see if he's found anything out." ************************ "Come on Bobby, I bought you Christmas dinner yesterday for no info at all. You'd better have something for me today." "OK, OK! I heard that another store was broken into last night. Fenbridges on Union St. Same situation, the camera went dead and the stuff just disappeared. No getaway vehicles were seen and they must've used something to move the stuff out with 'cos they got a lot." "So there are two department stores left that haven't been hit, Bainwicks and Tiffindales. Thanks Bobby." "Oh, yes and you never heard this from me but Fenbridges was owned by one of Intergang's buddies and they're not impressed with the culprit 'cos they had promised to protect his property if he joined them." ************************ Lois slumped back in her chair at the Planet. "So d'you think that Mindy is double crossing her cohorts or do you think that she has nothing to do with the crimes?" "Well, I know that there's a thieves code of honour but I don't think I'd trust a criminal to follow it. There's only one way to find out ..." "I know, a stakeout and I was looking forward to another evening in!" "But there are two stores, which do we watch?" "I think it's time for a shopping expedition. We'll each go to a store and find out which is expecting a delivery and if one's due one today, that one will probably be done tonight." "Sounds reasonable. You take Bainwicks and I'll take Tiffindales." "You take Tiffindales and I'll take Bainwicks", they said simultaneously and grinned at each other. Jimmy, who had been passing smiled, "Did you guys practice that?" ************************ Lois decided that her trip to Bainwicks might as well serve another purpose, so she intended to look for Clark's present while she was there. She walked around each floor, looking at promising displays but came up blank. She even went to look at the Hi fi displays that were playing to look at them but still felt that they were a little impersonal. She sighed and a shop assistant came over. "You look a little confused! What are you looking for?" "Um, I'm fine. I'm just trying to think of a present for my fiance and I can't. I want something special 'cos it's our first Christmas as a couple and I thought about a stereo but it's not personal enough and I want something that's never going to date and that we can look at in 50 years time, if he can put up with me that long, and remember this first Christmas by. Does that make sense at all to you?" "Uh - huh! Well, are you living together?" "No, well we spend most of our time together in one apartment or other but we're not officially living together." "Well, why don't you buy something in anticipation of living together but that you know he'd particularly like?" "You mean, like buy something for *our* place as opposed to *his* place?" "Yes, but nothing functional that you'd have to buy anyway, something else like a good painting or something." "That's a good idea! Thanks!" ************************ Clark wandered around Tiffindales. He had found out that they weren't expecting a delivery until Wednesday night. They'd better find something out then. They were supposed to be going to Smallville on Friday night for Christmas and he knew that now that Intergang was involved, Lois wouldn't leave until she got to the bottom of the story. It was still early and seeing as how they were probably going to have to sit on a stakeout tonight, Clark decided to wander around the Food Hall and make up a picnic basket for them. He had gathered together a few bits and pieces when he considered getting a bottle of wine. He decided that they would be working and was leaving the drinks section when he noticed a bottle of flavoured vodka. Chocolate flavoured imported from the UK - seeing as how Lois had liked British chocolate, he decided to buy the bottle for her stocking. ************************ Lois was wandering around the gifts section of Bainwicks. She didn't really like the paintings much but then she saw what she wanted. It was a dark bronze sculpture, about 15" high, of a stylised man and a woman. They were kneeling nude facing each other, their hands moving over the other's body and their lips just meeting. There was such emotion and love shown in it that it reminded Lois of herself and Clark and she knew that he would feel the same. She bought it. ************************ Lois and Clark were sitting in the Jeep in front of Bainwicks. Lois had discovered that there had been a delivery that day and that the toy department was fully stocked. From the jeep, they could see right into the toys section and so far all was well. Clark pulled out the hamper with all the goodies that he had bought earlier and they decided to eat. "So what're we doing in Smallville?" "Well, Saturday, we'll go into town and get the last minute shopping. Then we'll go out at night to the town Christmas party. Sunday, we'll go and cut down the tree and decorate it and Sunday night, we'll all spend together. Monday's Christmas. We'll open the presents in the morning, Mom can never wait until later, and then go for a walk while the turkey cooks." "It sounds so Christmassy! We used to open the presents and have the turkey. No that's not right, Dad wouldn't let us open the presents until after Christmas lunch and we never used to get involved with all the other bits" "Yeah, but that's part of what makes Christmas special" "I know. Thanks for asking me to come with you. This will probably be the most perfect Christmas I'll ever have had." Clark stared at Lois in disbelief, " Lois, you don't need to thank me! I love you and I'd spend Christmas anywhere as long as you were there and I should be thanking you for agreeing to come to Smallville and making my Christmas perfect." Lois turned to him and kissed him with tears in her eyes. Clark kissed the tears away and then returned his attention to her mouth. She closed her eyes to enjoy his kiss and promptly fell asleep. ************************ There was a knock on the jeep door. Lois opened her eyes and blinked in astonishment to see a policeman standing outside. She looked over at Clark and shook him awake before rolling down the window. "May I ask what you're doing here, ma'am?" "Um, we were just stopping off to have a bite to eat before going home, officer." "You didn't see anything peculiar then?" "No, why?" Lois looked into Bainwicks, the toy department had been emptied. "Oh, no! We slept through a burglary!" ************************ A few hours later, Lois and Clark were allowed to leave the police station. "I can't believe they kept us there for so long!" "We'd probably still be there, Lois, if you hadn't convinced them that we had fallen asleep and hadn't seen any of it." "Yes, well, Inspector Henderson didn't have to laugh quite so hard when I said that I couldn't believe I'd fallen asleep kissing you before we had..." "You did get yourself in a pickle but it got us out of there." "Yes and despite that inopportune nap, I'm still tired. Let's just go home and get some sleep." They arrived at Lois apartment. "Clark, will you stay please? I'm just a little spooked about how we could both fall asleep and I don't want to be alone. I just want to be held and cuddled." Clark nodded and followed her into the apartment. They got ready for bed and then climbed in. Clark pulled Lois to him and settled her against him, kissing the top of her head gently. Soon they were both asleep. ************************ Lois woke up and glanced over at Clark who was still sleeping. He'd had to go out and be Superman so she decided to leave him to sleep. She went into the bathroom and had a shower. She still thought it was odd that they had fallen asleep in the car - maybe kissing Clark wasn't the thrill it had been before, even last night when they had got home, all she wanted was a cuddle. She came out of the bathroom with a towel wrapped around her and noticed that Clark was awake and watching appreciatively. She walked around to get to her underwear drawer but Clark grabbed her and pulled her down onto the bed. He kissed her, she tilted her head back and he deepened the kiss as her hands moved round to his back to caress him. Just as he was about to try to take the towel off, the phone rang. It was Perry, "I've just heard about last night! I want you in here now!" Lois grimaced, "We always get interrupted." Then she burst out laughing, "I guess we've just proved that there must've been an outside influence last night to make us fall asleep. I knew kissing you didn't make me sleepy." ************************ Perry was not impressed! "You fell asleep while there was a robbery going on!" "Well, yes chief, but we think that it was a part of the robbery. I mean, the guards have fallen asleep in every robbery and I think that we've just proved that they couldn't have been in on the burglary." "So how are you going to find out?" "Well there's another delivery planned tonight and we think that seeing as how the police are watching all the roads, we're going to be on the next roof where we might get a better view of everything." "And if someone is gassing everyone, they won't suspect anyone being on the next roof so we should be awake." "Good idea, Lois, Clark, I just hope that it works for your sakes!" ************************ Lois and Clark were sitting on the edge of the roof of the building across the road from Tiffindales. They had brought a rug to sit on although Clark had heated up the concrete before they put the rug down. Clark was sitting with his arm round Lois so that she kept warm. "Do you think that we're going to see anything?" "I don't know, Lois, I hope so. If we don't, well, it'll be too late. The Church Group is handing out all the gifts tomorrow afternoon so there'll be no need to steal anymore then." A few hours passed while Lois and Clark sat enjoying each others nearness, making some conversation but mostly relaxing in a comfortable silence until Lois feet herself growing sleepy. "Clark, I think I need help staying awake, Could you give me a pick me up?" Clark looked puzzled, "A pick me up?.....Oh, sure!" He bent to her lips. As he kissed her, her hand reached up and cupped his head. He wondered if Lois was wearing a bracelet 'because he heard a slight jingle in the background. The jingle rang again, Clark reluctantly pulled away from Lois and stared in disbelief. There on Tiffindales' roof was a sleigh with several reindeer. Lois and Clark looked at each other. "Did we fall asleep again?" Clark stood up and spun into Superman. Picking Lois up, he flew them across to the top of Tiffindales. The sleigh was half loaded with presents. As they looked at the sleigh, they saw a short, fat man appear from inside the shop with a sackful of gifts. "Santa Claus?" they chorused. "Superman! How did you avoid the pixie dust that I borrowed from the sandman to make everyone fall asleep?" "Santa, you're the one who's been stealing all the gifts. But why?" "Well, I've had no choice. My elves went on strike because they felt that no one gave them any recognition, it was only myself and Rudolf that were remembered. Some people remember the names of the other reindeer but no one knows the elves. I tried to convince them to keep working but I was short of presents and I had to get them from somewhere. You won't tell anyone, will you?" "Santa, I don't think anyone would believe us if we tried but how did you get in and out without anyone seeing you?" "The same way as I get into houses without chimneys and how I know what everyone wants for Christmas ... magic!" "But what about the stores that have lost all their stock?" "Well, I was going to pay for it but I didn't know how. I've got lots of gold that I've had for centuries but you can't leave a crockful of gold on people's doorsteps." Clark thought for a moment, "OK, give me the gold and I'll go and see the people concerned and sort this out." "Would you, Superman? , Thank you so much! I've got to fly. It's Christmas Eve in three days and I've got 17 million parcels to wrap." With that, the man jumped into the sleigh and cracked his whip, the reindeer leapt into the air and were soon out of sight. Lois shook her head, "Did we just see what I thought we just saw?" Clark nodded, "Yes, but how're we going to explain this one to Perry?" ************************ Epilogue Lois and Clark had got away from Metropolis early on Friday after turning in their story on Thursday. Superman had taken the gold to the owners of the department stores and told them the truth on the condition that they couldn't mention it and had to say that they had been mistaken and the stock had been mislaid, sent to another shop by accident or been moved as part of an elaborate practical joke. They had looked disbelievingly until he pointed out that they were talking to a man who could fly and decided to use the practical joke excuse because it made them seem less inept. Clark and Lois had written a story about how Christmas spirit could make people devise crazy plans and made up a fictional account of how the tricks had been accomplished that the Metropolis readership was only too happy to lap up. Lois did wish that they'd been able to use the real version. Definitive proof of Santa would've been worth a Pulitzer! It was Christmas morning. Lois and Clark were lying asleep in Clark's room in Kansas. The faint morning sun shone through the window and woke them up. "Merry Christmas," said Lois, giving Clark a kiss. "Merry Christmas, yourself," he replied. Lois felt something lying across her legs and sat up. There was a stocking lying across her feet. Lois laughed, "Well at least now we've got a stocking each to open." Clark laughed and leaning down, picking them both up, he handed Lois' to her. They sat each putting their hand in and pulling something out. "Chocolate Vodka! - well that might be fun to try, where did you find it?" "This jigsaw puzzle is impossible!" "Hmm, the Chocolate Club! You do know my weaknesses, don't you?" "A *Superman* tie! Very funny." "A snowflake tree ornament?" "What? I didn't buy that, I've got one too!" "It's engraved 'Many thanks for keeping my secret, I'll keep yours. Season's Greetings, Santa Claus.' Hey, at least now we know we weren't dreaming." Soon the stockings were empty except for one bulge at the toe. They looked at each other and both stretched their arms in to pull it out. Out came identical pots of chocolate paint! Lois and Clark looked at each other and burst out laughing! "To think I agonised over whether I should buy it or not!" chuckled Lois "You did? So did I!" grinned Clark. "So do we get to try it out?" "I'm game if you are!" Just then there was a knock at the door. "Merry Christmas, you two! Breakfast is ready!" "Later!" they promised each other. ************************ There were two gifts left under the tree. The Kents and Lois were sitting surrounded by wrapping paper and parcels. Lois' gifts had been well appreciated by Martha and Jonathan and she had been equally delighted with hers from them. Martha picked up the last two parcels. "One for Clark from Lois and one for Lois from Clark." Lois peeled open the paper slowly and found a jewelry box. She opened it to find a slender gold chain with a strange pendant. It was two strips of gold twisted around each other and if you looked closely enough, the strips seemed to look human. "It's beautiful, Thank you, Clark!" Clark stood up and put the necklace on. As he brushed the hair at her neck away, he whispered in her ear, "You can see the pendant as both halves of me linked or as the two of us, joined together forever." Lois looked down at it and then raised her face to his and kissed him, "I think it's the two of us." Clark went over to the box and opened his gift. As he pulled out the sculpture his face broke into a smile. Lois spoke, "Do you like it? I didn't know what to buy and I wanted to get something special so that we'd always remember this Christmas and I thought it would look nice in our apartment when we get it ..." Clark stopped her torrent with a kiss. "It's perfect", he said, "it speaks volumes and all of them about a love like ours. Thank you." Lois smiled, "No Clark, thank you, this has been the best Christmas of my life." The End ================================================================= Dom Melaragni (FlakeyDom) The LnC drinking game and Fest pics http://ds.dial.pipex.com/dom-mel/index.htm ?8-)] Clark Kent smiley with the superhero squarejaw chin ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:17:54 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bec Cordingley Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - #15 & 16 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 18:40 17/12/97 -0500, you wrote: >OK, let's see if these are a little harder. > > >15. Clark works the kissing booth. This one's 'Missing You' by Kaytee Shultz >16. Sam figures out Clark is Superman ... and orders him away from his >daughter! 'The Day After Christmas' by Kathy Bell Bec (who loves this game :) ************************************************************************ cranwell@merlin.net.au http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8721/cfs2.html "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men!" -- Willy Wonka ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:47:02 +0000 Reply-To: dom-mel@dial.pipex.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Comments: Authenticated sender is From: Dom Melaragni Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: horsechestnut shower gel In-Reply-To: <8d41fff5.34984d17@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Laurie wrote > << >Incidentally, the horsechestnut shower gel is real......it's called > >Badedas and it smells heavenly! > >> > > > With all the cut and pastes it's really hard to tell who wrote what but I > was wondering of the person who scripted the above would care to let us know > WHERE we can get some of that heavenly smelling shower gel? I'm always on the > lookout for stuff like that. Thanks, Well......I think this could be another Flake situation! I wrote about Flakes and noone had ever heard of them. I write about horsechestnut shower and bath gel and noone's heard of them either! I have no idea where you'd get it in the US. It's available in most drugstores here.....most places they sell smelly bath stuff really. It comes in bath foam and shower gel.....it's slightly expensive but like I said......it's heavenly! Dom ================================================================= Dom Melaragni (FlakeyDom) The LnC drinking game and Fest pics http://ds.dial.pipex.com/dom-mel/index.htm ?8-)] Clark Kent smiley with the superhero squarejaw chin ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:44:42 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joan Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #14 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >#14. Chocolate Milk, a three year old who doesn't speak English, and a >woman who can't have children... The fanfic is called A Freak Accident. I like this one too. Especially the part when the little girl stayed at Clark's place and the description"followed him like a little puppy". Very cute.:) --- Joan aka dmj ***************************************************************** * My Lois & Clark page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dmyeung/ * ***************************************************************** Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:51:18 -0500 Reply-To: bushman@total.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kevin & Tracy Subject: Kathy's Challenge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I've been following the challenges and thought that this was the ideal place to have a question of mine answered. A while ago (1 1/2 to 2 years), I read a fanfic that ended with an undercover Clark purchasing a kidnapped Lois in an auction. Does anyone know the name of this fic? I've never been able to find it again. Thanks! Tracy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:37:28 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Larus2407 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - #15 & 16 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-17 19:15:31 EST, you write: << 15. Clark works the kissing booth. 16. Sam figures out Clark is Superman ... and orders him away from his daughter! >> Just like most of the others, I know I read these, but I just can't place any details. WAHHHHHHH --Laurie (wishing for a better memory) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:33:14 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Larus2407 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: horsechestnut shower gel Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-17 18:47:23 EST, Dom writes in response to another Laurie: << I have no idea where you'd get it in the US. It's available in most drugstores here.....most places they sell smelly bath stuff really. It comes in bath foam and shower gel.....it's slightly expensive but like I said......it's heavenly! >> This is odd, when Dom sends mail to this list, and I hit "reply" it goes directly to her; when the message is from anyone else "reply" gets me to the list... Anyway, has anyone checked out The Body Shoppe for this? I believe those stores started in England but they are now in malls in the U.S. I don't like smelly stuff, so I won't be on the lookout for this item, but it occured to me that this particular store might have the same products on the shelves on both sides of the ocean. --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:06:58 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Gardner Family Subject: Counter Clark-Wise MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello FoLC's- Can someone do me a really big favor? GO to the archive and look up = Zoomway's "Counter Clark-Wise". If it opens all the way please cut and = paste from "He reached the top and forced open the roof door" and send = it to me pers. Mailthat is where my computer cut it = off. It kept saying junk like can't open URL and other gibberish. Thank = you a mill.=20 Brad Gardner Gardners@htc.net Brad's Friends Page!!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/ga/gardners/friends.html ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 21:55:35 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: New - Kathy's Challenge #10-13 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-17 17:39:51 EST, you write: << 13. Claude comes back ... and Lois goes out with him! >> Was this Menage A Trois by Vixin? Crystal JCWimmer@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:36:58 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #11 (truth or dare) Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> But yes, the title is TO TELL THE TRUTH by Gail Lefkowitz. << Yes! That's it... Now that I've got the title, I found it on my harddriv= e (I saved it there in April of 95 ) (So if Kathy is charging too much money, come ask me ) A very fun story! It's a shame Gail withdrew her stories from circulation, though; I liked her stuff... So I guess I *can't* sell off copies... = PJ !^NavFont02F0138000DMGJHGyMG{HH3AE344 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:30:01 -0600 Reply-To: renate@mcs.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rhen Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #11 (truth or dare) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pam Jernigan wrote: > It's a shame Gail withdrew her stories from circulation, > though; I liked > her stuff... So I guess I *can't* sell off copies... Long ago, when I ran the L&C fanfic mailing list/archive, I would sometimes receive stories that were ... ahem ... adult in nature. Because my list contained so many young folc, I felt it was my duty to protect them (and me!) from any complications which might arise from their accidentally viewing said stories. Gail offered to start a very private (very informal) list of people who we *knew* for a fact were old enough to legally be termed adults. Soon the small group of people involved were telling friends who asked to be included and they brought more friends in ... One of the few stipulations Gail asked people to abide by was that none of the material be passed on to those outside of the list unless the author was asked and approved. Unfortunately, someone who shall remain nameless, decided that the rule didn't apply to her. Someone not on the list, a stranger to Gail, wrote to her and said how much she loved Gail's saucier stories and wanted to know if there were more. Gail became very upset and felt very betrayed. She closed the group (which is when Debby Stark pretty much took over the nfic list.) and asked that all her fanfic be removed from both archives. You're right that it was a shame to lose Gail's work. (Especially since the story in question was one that I had asked her to write ... originally, it started with a conversation on IRC ... one in which I asked her - what would happen if Lois and Clark got stuck in an elevator ... ;) You see, I was a fan of her writing as well. Rhen (Fanfic Trivia: How many people here know who coined the term "nfic"? ;) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:28:43 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LoriMcE Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Update on Kathy's Challenge Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-17 16:30:33 EST, you write: << I 4. Clark gives Lois a Superman bra = ? >> Wow, my box is full ! But I think this one is from a Krypton Club fanfiction - COMFORTABLE AS AN OLD SHOE By Lara E. Taylor (Chyronguru@aol.com) Lori ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:06:03 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Update on Kathy's Challenge In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971217133946.006d24d8@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Got to set the record straight here: > 5. "The Hero" =3D HEIR: RETURN [Peace] > Peace : Becky > *Becky - THE HEIR [?] Much as I dearly love The Heir: Return, I didn't write it -- Piper did. = She and I together wrote the nfic sequel to Return, entitled The Heir: = Healing. Actually, Lois' book "The Hero" shows up briefly also in Healing, but it = is mentioned first in Return. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:16:49 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Is Sue Tremblay around? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking through all the old stories that I have on disk, playing Kathy's = Challenge, I came across a file of poems by Sue Tremblay -- take-offs on = "Twas the Night Before Christmas" which were based on the various episode= s. And I got to thinking, wouldn't it be cool if she did some "Twas" poe= ms for the Season 5 and TUFS episodes? Hey, Sue, are you listening? Peace ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 01:12:35 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Kathy's Challenge - #17 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh, you want harder? How about: 17. "Excel with X-El"=3D? 18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with *Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence.=3D? Peace ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:42:06 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joan Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge - #17 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Oh, you want harder? How about: > >17. "Excel with X-El"=3D? > >18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement >bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with >*Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence.=3D? > >Peace Wow, Peace! You have outdone yourself this time. These 2 are really really hard. I don't have a clue!! --- Joan aka dmj ***************************************************************** * My Lois & Clark page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dmyeung/ * ***************************************************************** Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 04:07:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nethra Ankam Subject: Kathy's Challenge: music video Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >2. Lois & Clark shooting a music video = ? > Nethra : > *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] > *Bec - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] > *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [?] I went to the archive and this is the one I was thinking of! Nethra (You guys are good!) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:21:05 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Re: Update on Kathy's Challenge In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 12:06 AM 12/16/97 PST, Peace Everett wrote: >Got to set the record straight here: > >> 5. "The Hero" = HEIR: RETURN [Peace] >> Peace : Becky >> *Becky - THE HEIR [?] > >Much as I dearly love The Heir: Return, I didn't write it -- Piper did. She and I together wrote the nfic sequel to Return, entitled The Heir: Healing. Oooooooops. Sorry. Did I miss that or just completely read it wrong? Anyway, it's changed now. Thanks for telling me. Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 07:30:24 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge: music video In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19971218040757.0e5fa626@email.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I saw the second Joan in this and went, "Ack! That can't be right. How'd that get in there!" All this cutting and pasting must be blurring my eyes. Anyway, the second Joan should be Patricia. Beverly :-) At 04:07 AM 12/18/97 -0500, Nethra Ankam wrote: >>2. Lois & Clark shooting a music video = ? >> Nethra : >> *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] >> *Bec - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] >> *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [?] > >I went to the archive and this is the one I was thinking of! > >Nethra > >(You guys are good!) > > ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:16:40 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Alyssa Mondelli Organization: Brought to you by the legal firm of Deceive, Inveigle, & Obfuscate Subject: Re: Favorite Christmas Stories MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Aha! Something I can respond to! (You guys are way too quick for me; by the time I see a story I recognize, five other people have already gotten it.) > So, everyone, what is your favorite Christmas fanfic? Which one do you > pull out every December and read to get in the holiday mood? There aren't that many, are there? Here's one PG and one... not... ;-> that I've always liked: Jiji's "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" and Menolly's "Christmas Dayz". Kathy Bell's "The Day After Christmas" was good too but strictly speaking I suppose it doesn't count. Next? ==Alyssa in St. Paul== (agmondelli@stthomas.edu)(AlyssaM on the IRC) http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/mothership/60/index.htm "Ah yes... Coffee and the student. Those two words go together like bread and butter. Although, I wonder why we even bother brewing it. We could just eat the beans whole or grind them up and spread them on toast. It'd save us the cost of the filters." --Nancy Lemieux, "Jumeaux" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:41:08 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #11 (truth or dare) In-Reply-To: <3498B4D8.70BFB9B9@mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:30 PM -0600 12/17/97, Rhen wrote: >Gail >became very upset and felt very betrayed. She closed the group >(which is when Debby Stark pretty much took over the nfic list.) >and asked that all her fanfic be removed from both archives. I did know this story about the first nfic list. I consider Gail to be a friend, and I sympathize with her about her nfic. But I don't understand why she felt the need to pull off her PG stories. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Not that I think anyone's actions need to make sense to anyone else ... I'm just saying. Kathy (who will try to remember to ask Gail about this next time I talk to her) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:43:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Answers- KC - #15 & 16 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971218101754.006cb084@203.20.228.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:17 AM +1000 12/18/97, Bec Cordingley wrote: >>15. Clark works the kissing booth. > >This one's 'Missing You' by Kaytee Shultz > >>16. Sam figures out Clark is Superman ... and orders him away from his >>daughter! > >'The Day After Christmas' by Kathy Bell > >Bec (who loves this game :) You should love it ... you're winning. Yes, two correct answers. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:48:19 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge In-Reply-To: <199712180049.TAA29754@bretweir.total.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:51 PM -0500 12/17/97, Tracy wrote: >Hi! >I've been following the challenges and thought that this was the ideal >place to have a question of mine answered. A while ago (1 1/2 to 2 years), >I read a fanfic that ended with an undercover Clark purchasing a kidnapped >Lois in an auction. Does anyone know the name of this fic? I've never >been able to find it again. This one sounds familiar to me as well, but I can't come up with a title. Wasn't it a white slave auction? And Clark dressed up in a disguise and Lois didn't know who it was until he went into her cell to "claim" her. Is this the one you are thinking of, Tracy? Anyone else able to come up with a title? I'm almost wondering if it was an AOL or KClub or MetClub fic, and isn't necessarily on the Archive. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:58:32 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Favorite Christmas Stories In-Reply-To: <34995A78.21AF@stthomas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:16 AM -0600 12/18/97, Alyssa Mondelli wrote: >There aren't that many, are there? Here's one PG and one... not... ;-> >that I've always liked: Jiji's "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas" and >Menolly's "Christmas Dayz". Kathy Bell's "The Day After Christmas" was >good too but strictly speaking I suppose it doesn't count. I would second "The Day After Christmas" by Kathy Bell, which occurs directly after HIWTHI. It elicits some good emotion (read WHAMs ) without being cloying. It's not really a Christmas spirit story, but I do like what it does with the characters. On the opposite side of the spectrum, another story that I really like is "HIWTHI, part II" by Tanya Panossian. It's sweet and steamy but stops short of nfic. Kathy (making a mental note to reread Jiji's IDOAWC ... I really love her stuff but I can't remember any details about this one off the top of my head.) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:00:00 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: 12/18/97 UPDATE - KATHY'S CHALLENGE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Okay, here's the deal. In order to not overdo things, after this post I'm planning to only post an update of what's been solved and what hasn't once a week at Noon on Sunday, unless everyone 'demands' it more often. So let me know what would be best. PLEASE tell me what you want! Any frequency, from daily to weekly or anything inbetween, would be acceptable to me, because I'm simply cutting and pasting the info into a time-delayed e-mail file as it comes in -- so it's always ready to go and up-to-date. Well, except for when Kathy gives out those easy challenges that go like popcorn and puts me a wee bit behind on my frantic editing. But, seriously, I just need to know how often OR if you even want these updates to continue at all. Even if we do go with weekly postings, if anyone wants an individual update sooner than that because you've completely lost track of what's been challenged and solved, e-mail me and I'll send you privately what I've collected up to that point. Once the solved list gets too large to post, I'll archive the older stuff to a seperate file and only post the newer challenges and inquiries unless the older ones are specifically requested. Are we enjoying ourselves yet or am I in the doghouse bigtime for even suggesting this wildness? One thing I have noticed -- I know next to nothing about what fanfiction is out there because I recognize very few of these clues much less know where they came from. Oh, that and Kathy gives very easy clues, apparently! Hehehehe . . . Beverly :-) ****************************** KATHY'S CHALLENGE SUMMARY [as of this posting & working backwards] #. trivia clue = fanfic title [author] submitted by : correct responses *all responses listed as recieved, right or wrong NOTE: Items labeled with I# are inquiries about fanfics someone is trying to find, not where they already know the titles NOTE: Unless otherwise noted as *nfic* [distributed by Debby's nfanfiction list] OR *private* [distributed privately by author], all fanfics discussed are available at the LOIS & CLARK FANFICTION ARCHIVE at: *****STILL TO BE SOLVED OR CONFIRMED***** INQUIRIES: I 5. an undercover Clark purchasing a kidnapped Lois in an auction = ? Tracy : I 4. Clark gives Lois a Superman bra = ? Beppo : *Joan - COMFORTABLE AS AN OLD SHOE *Loir - COMFORTABLE AS AN OLD SHOE [Lara E. Taylor (Chyronguru@aol.com)] I 3. Lois & Clark go film a commercial for the DP = ? Beppo : I 1. Superman teddy for Lois made by Martha = ? Pat : I S. All storied which refer to teddies = ? Peace Everett : CHALLENGES: 18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with *Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence. = ? Peace : 17. "Excel with X-El" = ? Peace : 14. Chocolate Milk, a three year old who doesn't speak English, and a woman who can't have children... ? Adrienne : *Joan - A FREAK ACCIDENT [?] 13. Claude comes back ... and Lois goes out with him! = MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] Kathy : PJ, Bec *PJ - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] *Bec - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] *Crystal - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixin] 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." = ? Becky : *Mandi - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] *Kathy - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" = ? Becky : *Pam Jernigan - CULINARY DELIGHTS [?] *****EVERYTHING PAST THIS POINT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED SOLVED***** INQUIRIES: I 2. Lois & Clark shooting a music video = MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] Nethra : Joan, Bec, Patricia *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Bec - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Patricia - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [?] CHALLENGES: 16. Sam figures out Clark is Superman ... and orders him away from his daughter! = THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS [Kathy Bell] Kathy : Bec *Bec - THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS [Kathy Bell] 15. Clark works the kissing booth = MISSING YOU [Kaytee Shultz] Kathy : Bec *Bec - MISSING YOU [Kaytee Shultz] 12. Clark goes undercover as a male stripper (and no, it's not an nfic ) = GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] Kathy : Joan, Bec *Joan - GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] *Bec - GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] 11. Lois and Clark play truth or dare = TO TELL THE TRUTH [Gail Lefkowitz] *lost & gone* Kathy : PJ *PJ - TRUTH OR DARE? [?] [but she described the plot!] 10. "Oh, what a night! ... Late December back in '63 ..." = BAND [Bhavani Rao] Kathy : Bec *Bec - BAND [Bhavani Rao] 9. Random drug testing at the Planet = OOPS [Jenny Riecken] Peace : Kathy *Mandi - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - OOPS [?] 8. "Superman is probably straighter than God, actually," Jimmy informed them. "He sure hasn't hesitated to kiss you plenty of times, Lois--Superman, I mean, not God--" = DAWNING, D11 [Debby Stark] Kathy : Alyssa M, Peace *Alyssa - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] *Peace - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] 5. "The Hero" = HEIR: RETURN [Piper] Peace : Becky *Becky - THE HEIR [?] 4. Rapunzel = CYBERLINK [Zoomway] Peace : KathyB, PJ *Kathy - CYBERLINK [Zoomway] *PJ - CYBERLINK [Zoom] 3. rollerblades *and* Lois has a very strange nightmare = ALIEN NATION? [LadeeV] Beverly : Joan *Crystal - GELLATO WITH A TWIST [?] *Mandi - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Kathy - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Joan - ALIEN NATION? [?] 2. horsechestnut shower gel = SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* Beverly : Mandi *Laurie - THE NUTMEG ROOM [MizMollee] *nfic* *Mandi - WHISKEY GALORE [Dom] *nfic* *Mandi - SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* *Ann - one of the NUTMEGs [MizMollee] *nfic* 1. Linda King & . . . Brad Pitt *and* RSVPs for wedding invitations = YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] Beverly : Michelle, Kathy *Michelle - YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [?] *Kathy - YOU DIDN't NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] S. Superman teddy = LOIS' REVENGE [B.B. Medos] Beverly : Peace, KathyB *Peace - LOIS' REVENGE [?] *Kathy - LOIS'REVENGE/CLARK'S RESPONSE [?] ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:04:04 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: LStroh1856 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Favorite Christmas Stories Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Well Kathy, Just the other day I pulled out Gorn's One and Only...it's a great story even if there is only one sex scene....to those who haven't read it it's nfic and can be found at her site : http://www.fishnet.net/~gorn/ I cried just as much reading it this time as I did the first time....and I loved it just as much! Laurie LStroh1856@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:30:42 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joan Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com) Subject: Re: 12/18/97 UPDATE - KATHY'S CHALLENGE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --- >I 3. Lois & Clark go film a commercial for the DP = ? This is from 'Top Banana' A ver interesting story.:) Joan aka dmj ***************************************************************** * My Lois & Clark page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dmyeung/ * ***************************************************************** Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:38:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Author's Rights (re: Truth or Dare) Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Talking about Gail's stories, which she removed from the archives some time ago, got me thinking. Once an author sends a story out into the Internet, what rights does he or she retain? I'm more interested in netiquette here than legal stuff, which is still pretty shaky and unenforceable for Internet things. If someone asks me to send them a copy of Gail's story, which I have, should I send it? I think not, because she specifically requested that t= he story be pulled out of circulation. I've given someone her e-mail addy s= o they could ask her themselves, but the addy is apparently defunct, so I wouldn't know how to get in touch with her. What about a story that's still in circulation? Zoomway's "Always Something There" for example, which, the last time I looked, was not on t= he archive. Can I send copies of that to people? Or should I just refer th= em to her? I'm just curious what the consensus is on these issues, and this list seems like the perfect place to discuss it :-) PJ !^NavFont02F03290006MGHHJrBF96 E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 18-Dec-1997 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/mothership/60/season5.htm ~~~~~ "The first thing she said to me was 'Herbie, get me to the Planet.' Naturally, I wondered which planet..." "Ah, Constable, you've returned. Upon reflection, I imagine this pleases= me." <-- Due South is back! :-) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:05:34 -0500 Reply-To: bushman@total.net Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kevin & Tracy Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ---------- > From: Kathy Brown > To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU > Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge > Date: Thursday, December 18, 1997 12:48 PM > >> Tracy wrote: >> A while ago (1 1/2 to 2 years), I read a fanfic that ended with an undercover Clark purchasing a kidnapped Lois in an auction. Does anyone know the name of this fic? I've never been able to find it again. > > This one sounds familiar to me as well, but I can't come up with a title. > Wasn't it a white slave auction? And Clark dressed up in a disguise and > Lois didn't know who it was until he went into her cell to "claim" her. That was the one!! Bec answered first with it yesterday. It's called 'Blackmail', and it's available on the archive. Thanks Bec, that was making me crazy for almost a year. Tracy ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:13:28 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge In-Reply-To: <199712190308.WAA26913@bretweir.total.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:05 PM -0500 12/18/97, Kevin & Tracy wrote: >That was the one!! Bec answered first with it yesterday. It's called >'Blackmail', and it's available on the archive. Thanks Bec, that was >making me crazy for almost a year. Good lord, another few questions like this and I'm going to lay down my crown at Bec's feet. You're good, babe! Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:36:31 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Larus2407 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Author's Rights (re: Truth or Dare) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-18 22:20:45 EST, you write: << I'm more interested in netiquette here than legal stuff, which is still pretty shaky and unenforceable for Internet things. >> Although more difficult to enforce, copyrights still hold true on the internet. Unless otherwise specificied, I'd assume the author holds the copyright and therefore the publishing rights. I'd suggest that proper netiquette be to adhere to the author's request. Now if I came to visit you could I read Gail's story on your computer if I didn't copy it to take it home (wouldn't that be like lending a book)? --Laurie (wondering where in the world you are in case we all want to come and read these undistributable stories) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:44:57 +1100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Stosser Subject: Re: Author's Rights (re: Truth or Dare) In-Reply-To: <826c3387.3499ebc1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:36 PM 18/12/97 EST, Larus2407 wrote: >In a message dated 97-12-18 22:20:45 EST, you write: > ><< I'm more interested in > netiquette here than legal stuff, which is still pretty shaky and > unenforceable for Internet things. >> > >Although more difficult to enforce, copyrights still hold true on the >internet. Unless otherwise specificied, I'd assume the author holds the >copyright and therefore the publishing rights. I'd suggest that proper >netiquette be to adhere to the author's request. Now if I came to visit you >could I read Gail's story on your computer if I didn't copy it to take it >home (wouldn't that be like lending a book)? I have Truth or Dare on my computer... I was unaware that Gail had removed her stories from the archive. Where does that place me, if I had (hypothetically) passed on her (non-nfic) stories to anyone else? (I know the rule about not passing on nfic without authors permission.) >--Laurie (wondering where in the world you are in case we all want to come and >read these undistributable stories) I'm in Melbourne, Australia. You're more than welcome to come visit, though I don't know if I'd lend you my Dean Lever Arch Binder full of printed out nfic . Oh, yeah, and Joe says you have to prove that you're not an axe murderer before arriving here . -- Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*- (Jenerator or MoiAussie on IRC) This message is umop ap!sdn -*- David is 5 and Megan is 2! Photos on the Stosser Family HomePage: http://www.ozramp.net.au/~jenerate Please Visit! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:24:05 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bec Cordingley Subject: Kathy's Challenge #18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, >18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with *Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence. = ? This one's from 'Beefcake' by Phil Atcliffe. It's a story set fairly soon after L&C met. Perry White suggests they go to the beach one weekend to relax - and idea Clark likes but Lois isn't quite as sure about :) Bec :) ************************************************************************ cranwell@merlin.net.au http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8721/cfs2.html "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men!" -- Willy Wonka ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:57:33 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #18 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971219152405.006d9228@203.20.228.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 3:24 PM +1000 12/19/97, Bec Cordingley wrote: >Hi, > >>18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement >bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with >*Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence. = ? > >This one's from 'Beefcake' by Phil Atcliffe. > >It's a story set fairly soon after L&C met. Perry White suggests they go >to the beach one weekend to relax - and idea Clark likes but Lois isn't >quite as sure about :) LOL! I knew that one was familiar. I edited that story too. Give it a read - it's a really cute story. Bec, please tell me you don't have all these committed to memory. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:43:44 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bec Cordingley Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #18 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 23:57 18/12/97 -0500, you wrote: >At 3:24 PM +1000 12/19/97, Bec Cordingley wrote: >>Hi, >> >>>18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement >>bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with >>*Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence. = ? >> >>This one's from 'Beefcake' by Phil Atcliffe. >> >>It's a story set fairly soon after L&C met. Perry White suggests they go >>to the beach one weekend to relax - and idea Clark likes but Lois isn't >>quite as sure about :) > >LOL! I knew that one was familiar. I edited that story too. Give it a >read - it's a really cute story. It is a great story :) >Bec, please tell me you don't have all these committed to memory. Hehe, well, no, I don't. However, you're not the first person to ask I just love fanfic.. and L&C :) Although I'm embarrassed to admit that while I remember the most insignificant parts of fanfic (and the show's B-plot), I have been known to completely forget the A-plot of actual episodes. Ah well, it's the life of a FoLC, I guess :) Bec :) ************************************************************************ cranwell@merlin.net.au http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/8721/cfs2.html "A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men!" -- Willy Wonka ************************************************************************ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:23:55 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #18 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971219154344.006daa78@203.20.228.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:43 PM 12/19/97 +1000, Bec Cordingley wrote: >Hehe, well, no, I don't. However, you're not the first person to ask >I just love fanfic.. and L&C :) Although I'm embarrassed to admit that >while I remember the most insignificant parts of fanfic (and the show's >B-plot), I have been known to completely forget the A-plot of actual >episodes. Ah well, it's the life of a FoLC, I guess :) Aren't we SUPPOSED to forget the A-plot?!? Extremely puzzled folc, Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 01:24:24 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pam Jernigan Subject: Re: Author's Rights (re: Truth or Dare) Comments: To: Blind.Copy.Receiver@compuserve.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> Although more difficult to enforce, copyrights still hold true on the internet. << Yes, but who's to know the contents of private e-mail? So enforcement is= very difficult and not really the issue here... >> I'd suggest that proper netiquette be to adhere to the author's request. << That was my feeling. Now, how does that apply to stories that are still "out there"? A while back, I had a friend with e-mail access, but no web access. So, I sent h= er a number of stories - they were all, as far as I know, available on the archive, so she could have gotten them there... would the method of distribution matter? >> Now if I came to visit you could I read Gail's story on your computer if I didn't copy it to take it= home (wouldn't that be like lending a book)? << Well, I suspect if you were in my office standing over my shoulder as I re-read an old favorite, I wouldn't chase you away... but I've no idea why I'd consider that different than sending it to you via e-mail. (And I'm not telling where I live, because I can't have visitors, the hou= se is filthy! ) PJ !^NavFont02F0364002FMGJHG47MG49HGADMGAFHGECMGEEHHF7MHF9HI6CMI6EHJ65336E E-mail from: Pam Jernigan, 19-Dec-1997 jernigan@compuserve.com / ChiefPam on the IRC ~~~~~ Unreformed, unrepentent, sometimes unproductive but never uninteresting fanfic writer = Visit Sarah & Pam's Shrine o'Fanfic at: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/2501 ~~~~~ Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/mothership/60/season5.htm ~~~~~ "The first thing she said to me was 'Herbie, get me to the Planet.' Naturally, I wondered which planet..." "Ah, Constable, you've returned. Upon reflection, I imagine this pleases= me." <-- Due South is back! :-) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 07:58:39 +0100 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Nikolaus Hammerschmidt Subject: Happy Holidays! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm heading off for home and will be returning in January. Merry Chrismas and a happy New Year to you all!! N. Hammerschmidt ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 02:08:42 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #18 In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971219152405.006d9228@203.20.228.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I challenged: > >18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement > bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with > *Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence. =3D ? and Bec responded: > This one's from 'Beefcake' by Phil Atcliffe. She's right, of course... Bec, hon, you're starting to scare me here. Peace A FoLC Named Peace is moving! Come visit me at my new place - http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/7137 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:39:34 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Stark Subject: The Evil Henchman's Guide Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've been posting so many varieties of these, I can't remember if I posted this one (I don't recognize the content, though so maybe it's new). If so, I'm sorry it's a dupe; if not, I hope you enjoy it! - Debby **** >From John Mon, 01 Dec 1997 19:25:42 -0800 From: John & Linda VanSickle Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.sf.tv Subject: The Evil Henchman's Guide The Evil Henchman's Guide Recently, the Society of Evil Overlords has noticed a regrettable decline in the availability and quality of fanatical henchmen, devoted worshippers, and loyal infantry. We wish to correct this growing problem by submitting the following general guidelines for Evil Henchmen. DISCLAIMER: The use of masculine/feminine pronouns and assignment of gender roles is not intended to preclude a reversal of gender roles. It is, however, intended to offend those who think that nuclear missiles are deployed because of their phallic appearance. Nyah. I. General tips for henchmen of all varieties: 1. Avoid getting sent to rough up the hero(es). Ransacking hotel rooms is probably safe, but going 'round to beat up the good guys is a sure ticket to the bottom of the Thames. Remember, however, that all Heroes get roughed up at least once, so if this has never happened to the Hero, go for it! 2. When the hero or his sidekicks are at your mercy, don't stop to gloat. 3. If you can't resist gloating, don't boast about the reward you expect to receive from your master for bringing them in or killing them off. 4. If you gloat and boast, don't be surprised if a comrade of the person you have at your mercy jumps you from behind while you're distracted with your boasting. 5. If you fail to complete your mission, skip town. Returning to the Evil Overlord to report on your failure will usually get you killed. 6. Avoid killing people not actively involved in the rebellion; the Evil Overlord has enough enemies as it is. Especially don't kill relatives, significant others, or best friends of the hero. Normally after the Evil Overlord is overthrown, henchmen can get off with just a little community service time, but if you off the Hero's loved ones, he'll make lasagna out of you. 7. Unless the Evil Overlord pays extra for indiscriminate slaughter, avoid it. Why should you give your services away for free? 8. As tempting as it may be, never try to ravish the Evil Overlord's beautiful-but-wicked daughter. She can probably mop the floor with you. Daddy will *not* try to stop her. 9. Learn where the trap door is in the Evil Overlord's audience chamber. Avoid standing there, especially when bad news is brought to the Evil Overlord. 10. While the Evil Overlord is gloating over his anticipated success in the venture he is about to launch, it is considered impolite to ask "And if you fail?" You probably won't be flogged, maimed, or killed for your temerity, but why risk it? 11. As soon as the evil lord has the hero in his power, seek the nearest available escape route. The fewmets are about to hit the windmill. 12. Learn to distinguish Heroes from Sidekicks. Heroes are usually taller and more somber, while Sidekicks dress with more flair and tell more jokes. Taking on the Hero when you only have enough manpower/firepower to take on the Sidekick will earn you an all- expenses-paid trip on Stygian Cruise Lines. 13. Never allow yourself to be provoked into doing anything stupid by insults from the Hero or Sidekicks. 14. No matter how attractive the captured heroine is or how seductively she bats her eyes, she really does not want to sleep with you. Do not unlock the cell door. 15. If the heroes give you a chance to surrender or flee, take it. 16. If you surrender to the Hero, don't try to stab him when his back is turned; the Sidekick will get you first. 17. If the seemingly helpless person you have just cornered is confident and unafraid despite being outnumbered and surrounded, you have encountered a Hero in disguise. Run while you still can. 18. If the Hero you are sent after dresses entirely in black, he is even more dangerous than the Evil Overlord suspects; double all requisitions for men and firepower. 19. Practice your "accidental" sword/gun dropping technique. It's the only thing that can save you when the hero is winning. II. Guidelines for Legion of Doom troops: 1. Before performing guard duty, familiarize yourself with the sound of a tossed pebble, and learn to avoid being distracted by it. 2. When performing guard duty, do not stare continually in one direction, but take a moment now and then to look around. 3. When you are fighting intruders, do not fight them quietly, but yell "Intruder!" while you still have breath. 4. When issued armor or uniforms that contrast with the service environment, respectfully inquire after more sensibly-colored attire. 5. Get plenty of firearms practice. 6. Don't attack the hero alone or in pairs. The Evil Overlord hired a million of you for a reason. 7. Never be the first one to charge the hero. 8. Exercise care in the abuse of oppressed peoples. Many farm implements make effective weapons in the hands of a skilled opponent. Some of those little old men can teach you a thing or two about hand-to-hand, too. III. Tips for evil cult members: 1. Pick one faith and stay with it. Dilettantism is the mark of an amateur. 2. Familiarize yourself with the specifications for sacrificial victims, and ensure that unacceptable substitutes cannot be unexpectedly introduced into the ceremony. If the penalty for not- to-specs work is death and/or mutilation, consider working for a more fault-tolerant deity. 3. Avoid needless embarrassment. Practice the correct pronunciation of your deity's name in the privacy of your own room before chanting it in public. Flash cards are often helpful. 4. Before agreeing to impregnation by a supernatural being, investigate the survival rate of the other women who have undergone the procedure. 5. Never invoke anything bigger than your head. 6. Eschew deities whose followers are all young; such faith groups usually employ an unpleasant retirement procedure. 7. Avoid all cabalistic jewelry over ten pounds in weight--it attracts unwelcome attention from tourists, policemen, various supernatural creatures, and can be downright dangerous during thunderstorms. Its jingling also tends to warn the hero of your approach. It also makes you resemble Mr. T, and nobody wants to join a religion he belongs to. 8. Citronella candles may not be used in rituals. I cannot stress this enough. Pastel colored candles in the shape of cute animals are like direct sunlight to the Powers of Darkness. 9. If the spirit contacted during a seance begins offering financial advice, you're dealing with a con artist, and not a genuine medium. 10. Always keep your kit with you: candles, chalk, incense, silver knife, Thuggee cord, service revolver, garlic, Yellow Sign, cab fare, and change. 11. Flourescent lighting is very annoying to most netherworldly creatures. 12. When the Black Mass goes awry, stay away from the Evil Priest. Enraged demons always go for the pompous. 13. Followers who have a speech impediment should be excused from speaking parts in any and all ceremonies. The mispronunciation of the deity's name can have catastrophic effects. 14. Plan ahead by selecting ceremonial robes that are easy to run in while still affording ample concealment. 15. If the ritual site has some strange powder sprinkled around that wasn't there the last time, postpone all ceremonies until the site is verified. 16. When a religious artifact begins emitting light, CLOSE YOUR EYES. Thousands of cult members could be saved every year if they followed this simple safety tip. 17. When mutilating cattle, avoid the ones with testicles. 18. During ritual sacrificing, taking bits home for later is now generally considered "bad form." 19. Blood tests are now required for all sacrificial victims before the ritual. The effects of HIV+ offerings on the average malefic deity have never been witnessed by anyone living, or even intact. 20. Contrary to historical belief, drugs and invocations do not mix. When the ritual goes awry, it is vitally necessary to be able to discern between the gibbering monstrosity to pump full of silver bullets and the gibbering monstrosity that will fade away after a few hours, some B complex, and a good hot bath. 21. Never play strip Tarot. 22. Piety and belief are powerful things, and few forces in nature, can stand against one who is true to his faith, his god/goddess, and the deal made in exchange for the soul. However, it is also true that gods tend to side with the heaviest artillery, so be prepared to change sides at the drop of a hat. 23. For those situations where a fresh, living, sacrifice is not available, the lower ranks of demons can be fooled by microwaving a previously frozen chunk of ex-victim and cleverly jiggling it. However, a mock victim sculpted from SPAM is right out. IV. Tips for the Evil Overlord's Wicked but Beautiful Daughter: 1. Find out all those lovely little family secrets so that the Hero can never spring them on you. 2. Do not fall in love with the Hero. 3. If you do fall in love with the Hero, and decide to help him, do not declare your intentions to Daddy. Daddy will clap you in irons, pending your execution. The Hero will rescue you, but having to be rescued is demeaning. 4. If the Hero takes you to his secret base, and once there tells all about his plans, smile sweetly, leave, and find another man; this Hero is obviously so stupid he will not be around for very long. 5. If any of Daddy's Evil Henchmen try to make a move on you, at least maim them. While the encounter might be interesting, it would set a bad precedent. 6. If you do fall in love with the Hero, and want him to love you in return, do not use a drug concocted by a wizened old lady living on the top of a mountain. If the hero is not blind, your natural charms will be sufficient to win him over. If he does not, or prefers the One True Love, then he obviously has rotten taste; find someone better. 7. Do not wear dresses with high, fan-like collars. Keep your clothing to close-fitting, simple little numbers that allow you to turn your head to see what is behind you. If you have to wear a dress with such a collar, there is an arcane device called a "mirror" that allows you to see behind yourself. 8. Have some engineers install a hidden exit from the room where Daddy imprisoned Mommy for the rest of her days after she displeased him. 9. Do not mistreat the populace. Let Daddy be the one to make enemies of all the Heroes in the land. 10. If you have siblings, do not trust them. They'll only take advantage of you. Of course if they're stupid enough to trust you, take advantage of them. 11. If any of your siblings try to enlist your aid to overthrow Daddy, smile, promise to think it over, and then turn them in. They're either stupid (in which case the plot would certainly fail and you'll all get caught), setting you up (in which case not turning them in is a very bad idea), or they've turned Good (in which case life under the new regime would be boring). 12. Laugh at all of the Sidekick's jokes, no matter how lame they are. That way when you pretend to fall for him he will be more easily fooled. 13. Rather than simply being an attractive stage prop, make sure you know every detail of the running of the Evil Empire, so that if anything unpleasant happens to Daddy, you will be able to take over with minimal fuss. Then make sure that something unpleasant happens to Daddy. 14. If you cannot decided between sleeping with the Hero and slowly roasting him alive, postpone dealing with him until you have clarified your emotions. Got new tips? E-mail them to me. -- "It wasn't my fault--in a way I haven't totally figured out yet." http://www.erols.com/vansickl ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 06:18:22 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Zoomway Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Author's Rights (re: Truth or Dare) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-18 22:20:45 EST, you write: << What about a story that's still in circulation? Zoomway's "Always Something There" for example, which, the last time I looked, was not on the archive. Can I send copies of that to people? Or should I just refer them to her? >> No! I mean ...um no..don't refer them to me Once I send out a fanfic or post it to usenet, then I expect people will read it if they want to, and if it's not at the archive for some reason, feel free to send it to anyone. The only thing I ask is if someone wants to use a story I wrote for some fanfic list, club or site is that they ask first. I wrote one X-Files story that was a crossover with Lois and Clark, very short and when both shows were still in 1rst season. That crossover is even on a German site right now I don't mind that really, but I'd like to be asked first since FOX has been known to get nasty as opposed to WB...well, so far ;) As far as 'legal' rights, that's kinda funny ;) Since 1989 a copyright is 'understood' whether you see (C) or not. It is understood that it is copyrighted without having 'all rights reserved' etc. In fact, unless someone specifically writes "free to use in the public domain" or something similar, then you aren't technically allowed to copy and use that item. The thing with fanfic, of course, is that the characters do not belong to the writers. Interestingly enough though, names and 'words' (by themselves) can't be copyrighted. They are given a 'trademark'. So, you could have a totally ludicrous sentence like "Only Lois Lane (tm) knew that Clark Kent (tm) was Superman (tm)." The word 'superman' exists by itself as a word and there are real people with the names Lois Lane and Clark Kent, but, when they are associated to Superman, the hero in tights from Krypton, they belong to DC Comics. Violating copyright is a violation of civil law, not criminal law (unless it can be proved that you are making money off the violation and in the case of 10 copies or 2500 dollars, it can be a felony) The weird thing is, nothihng 'copyrighted' is being violated when fanfic is written (unless you base a story on a copyrighted work, as Bryce Zabel did with All Shook Up. That was originally a 'copyrighted' script from Jackson Gillis) Fanfic is a shadowy place in copyright law. As was said, names can't be copyrighted, they are trademarked. Proving a violation of trademark generally involves intent. Did you intend to hurt or defame the trademark? Did you intend to lessen the value of the trademark (usually by making money off of it and thus hurting the trademark owner). Did you try and pass the trademark off as your own? Obviously none of this applied to fanfic, no one is defaming Superman, making money from that trademark, or passing the trademark off as their own. One reason studios, publishers, etc. have backed off on filing suit against fanfic writers, fanzines or website owners with fanfic, is bacause a case was lost. The right to parody is a protected right, and also falls under the 'fair use' exemption to copyrights. In the past, even MAD Magazine faced lawsuits over its parodies, but then it won under the grounds that parody was protected, and the magazine (and others like it) was protected. The Edgar Rice Burroughs estate sued a French parody of Tarzan (similar to George of the Jungle) but lost, again, because parody is protected. Fanfic generally wasn't covered, but when someone won a suit on the grounds that fanfic was parody, even if the characters names were used and it wasn't done as 'comedy', the studios backed off. The fact that fanfic isn't for profit and might reach only a couple of thousand readers at best and is almost always written out of affection for a given show and its characters makes the burden of 'intent' all the tougher for big bad studios to prove. Remember 'copyright' is *never* something you can lose. It's not like a trademark which can be lost. That is, a studio can't come forward and say "If we don't defend our copyright, we'll lose it" that's nonsense, can't happen. A trademark, you bet. Both 'aspirin' and 'trampoline' used to be trademarks (aspirin may still be in Canada) A trademark is lost when too many people start thinking of it generically. That is, people usually *don't* say "give me a Band-aid brand bandage", they say "give me a band-aid" The don't say "give me a Kleenex brand facial tissue", they say "give me a Kleenex" Companies that own trademarks spend a lot of money to protect them. Kimberly- Clarke, the makers of Kleenex products runs adds 'thanking' writer for spelling 'Kleenex' with a capital K and for adding junk like 'brand of facial tissue' As does Lycra, Day-Glo or Wite-Out (which gets used generically a lot) So, that was probably convoluted Anyway, anything we write is likely copyrighted, but how good that would stand up when they are someone else's characters, I don't know. Zoomway@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 07:38:43 -0800 Reply-To: rcchish@jpc.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Rene Chisholm Organization: Jeffersom Pilot Subject: (no subject) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HOW DO I GET OFF THIS LIST? THE ORIGINAL INSTRUCTIONS DO NOT WORK SO PLEASE BE SPECIFIC. IT IS FILLING UP MY MAILBOX. THANKS! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:33:45 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Archive Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Is anyone else having trouble actually retrieving stories from the archive? I have been having more trouble getting the stories off (connection problems, ect), and yesterday there was a post that someone couldn't get Zoomway's "Counter Clark Wise" off the archive. I thought this was just my problem, but maybe not. Does anyone have a clue what is going on? I have left a message to the archive, and if they let me know what's up I'll pass it on, but I was hoping someone out there knew what was up. Let me Know. Thanks, Crystal JCWimmer@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:45:52 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Author's Rights, nfic Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-19 00:52:48 EST, you write: << have Truth or Dare on my computer... I was unaware that Gail had removed her stories from the archive. Where does that place me, if I had (hypothetically) passed on her (non-nfic) stories to anyone else? (I know the rule about not passing on nfic without authors permission.) >> I can certainly understand not passing out n-fic arbitrarily, but is there a way to find a list of the authors. I know there are archives for the other stuff, and for legal reasons it can't be distributed to those under 18, and responsibility, yadda, yadda. I was just wondering if there was a link or a list for the authors so we could get it. It can't be MUCH worse than the typical romance novels out there (they get pretty graphic) and I feel like I'm missing out on the stories. Any help would be appreciated. Thaks! JCWimmer@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:38:37 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Kathy's Challenge #18 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-19 01:52:58 EST, you write: << Aren't we SUPPOSED to forget the A-plot?!? >> I'm not sure, but the B-plot (and "insignificant details") sure seem to stick with me. Isn't that the whole point of life: to remember the lessons we learn from our struggles but not the struggles themselves! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:35:09 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: Re: Author's Rights, nfic In-Reply-To: <8b48247b.349a96b2@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:45 AM 12/19/97 EST, JCWimmer wrote: >I was just wondering if there was a link or a list for the authors so we could >get it. It can't be MUCH worse than the typical romance novels out there >(they get pretty graphic) and I feel like I'm missing out on the stories. Actually, nfic is, or can be, a great deal MORE graphic than the TYPICAL romance so nfic authors have a definite reason to be concerned and protective of their stories. Considerably so. That's not to say that certain individual writers in romance don't go into great detail, get published and land on bookshelves for all to see, buy and read, but surprisingly they aren't the norm in the genre. Put it this way, I've read romances all my life and I've learned some things from nfic that . . . well, I never read THAT in a romance novel. And most likely won't, unless it's in a story by an established author that can get away with it and still be published. Beverly :-) ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:01:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Unsubscribe command Comments: To: rcchish@jpc.com In-Reply-To: <349A9503.5DB1@server0.jpc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:38 AM -0800 12/19/97, Rene Chisholm wrote: >HOW DO I GET OFF THIS LIST? THE ORIGINAL INSTRUCTIONS DO NOT WORK SO >PLEASE BE SPECIFIC. IT IS FILLING UP MY MAILBOX. THANKS! Did you send email to LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU with the command Unsubscribe LOISCLA-GENERAL-L These are the instructions that I have, and as far as I know, they haven't changed. And I really don't think it's necessary to SHOUT at everyone on the list when you could just ask nicely. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:20:04 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: 12/18/97 UPDATE - KATHY'S CHALLENGE In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971218140000.006bbf48@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beverly wrote (and I'm snipping to relevant bits): > In order to not overdo things, after this post I'm > planning to only post an update of what's been solved and what hasn't = once > a week at Noon on Sunday, unless everyone 'demands' it more often. The flood seems to be tapering a bit, so it seems to me that once a week = should be sufficient. :) > But, > seriously, I just need to know how often OR if you even want these upda= tes > to continue at all. Yes, I like these updates -- please *do* continue! Otherwise, it's reall= y hard to keep track of what's been answered -- especially when sometimes= I'm getting an answer before I even receive the challenge! > Even if we do go with weekly postings, if anyone wants an individual = update Oh, Bev, honey, you're a glutton for punishment, aren't you? > Are we enjoying ourselves yet or am I in the doghouse bigtime for even > suggesting this wildness? Well, your timing on it was excellent -- I've had a *very* stressful mont= h and this has been wonderfully de-stressing for me. Thank you for sugge= sting it! :) > One thing I have noticed -- I know next to > nothing about what fanfiction is out there because I recognize very few= of > these clues much less know where they came from. Oh, I know, isn't it embarrassing? ;P Peace who really ought to be doing laundry right now :P ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:26:05 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Archive In-Reply-To: <79c5ef1a.349a93db@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:33 AM -0500 12/19/97, JCWimmer wrote: >Is anyone else having trouble actually retrieving stories from the archive? Yes, we have gotten occasional emails from people with similar problems. It seems to be fairly rare, given the number of hits we get and the relatively few emails, but obviously, we want to fix any problems that arise. If you do have problems, you can send email to This is the Archive Web Staff's email address. If you send it to the LCStories address, I'll just forward it on to them, since I don't deal with the web site itself, just the individual stories. Web Staff, can one of you guys post an update when you have any answers? >I have been having more trouble getting the stories off (connection problems, >ect), and yesterday there was a post that someone couldn't get Zoomway's >"Counter Clark Wise" off the archive. I thought this was just my problem, but >maybe not. When downloading a long story, be sure that the entire file has downloaded before saving. If the story is only at 70% complete on the screen and you save it, you are only going to get 70% of the story on your hard drive. I'm not sure if this was the problem with CCW, but it has been the solution to some of our complaints. Other times, people have told us they can't access the Archive, then we try and get in with no problem. Hard to solve a problem when you can't repeat it. When you write to us, please try to include as much detail as possible about what happened. "I couldn't get in" could mean anything. What error messages did you get, what did the screen do, etc.? >Does anyone have a clue what is going on? I have left a message to the >archive, and if they let me know what's up I'll pass it on, but I was hoping >someone out there knew what was up. I passed your message along to the FanficWeb address. I know that at least a couple of them are on this list, so they've gotten this message as well. (At least, I assume they are still on this list ... Demi is currently on vacation ... but Kat was giving me "challenges" on IRC so I assume she is still here. ) Thanks, Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:32:29 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: nfic In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971219103509.006bc23c@hop-uky.campus.mci.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:35 AM -0600 12/19/97, Beverly Latham wrote: >Put it this way, I've read >romances all my life and I've learned some things from nfic that . . . >well, I never read THAT in a romance novel. LOL!!! Well, speaking as someone who has read only the occasional romance novel, I didn't know for sure that we (the royal 'we' of nfic writers ) were that far past the traditional stuff, but I would have predicted as much. Some of the stuff out there is *definitely* beyond what you should be able to find on a bookstore shelf. Now, behind the counter at the 7-11 ... Kathy (who, despite that last comment, will take on all comers in the "porn" versus "erotica" debate. ... no pun intended.) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:04:49 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: nfic In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Kathy (who, despite that last comment, will take on all comers in the > "porn" versus "erotica" debate. ... no pun intended.) Oh, Kathy, you ought to be ashamed of yourself!!! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:07:49 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Zoomway Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: The Evil Henchman's Guide Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-19 07:15:08 EST, you write: << 2. When the hero or his sidekicks are at your mercy, don't stop to gloat. >> The funniest thing I ever saw involving a villain bragging and gloating was in the Clint Eastwood movie The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. A henchman goes in to kill off Eli Wallach's character, who is rather helpless sitting there in a bathtub. Well, the henchman starts blabbing/gloating, and then...out of the bubbles...Eli produces a revolver, and BLAM dispatches the henchman. He says, "If you're going to shoot, shoot. Don't talk." Most of us had our first experience as children seeing the gabby/gloaty villain in The Wizard of Oz. The Wicked Witch of the West gloated long enough about her capture of Dorothy and her entourage that even Scarecrow, with no brain, scoped out the positioning of a huge chandelier over the heads of a majority of the witch's troops. He grabs hold of the Tinman's axe- wielding arm and swoops it over to the rope holding the chandelier, and BLAM ;) This would actually be a good category for the L&C Concordance. How many times were Superman, Clark, Lois (etc, etc) saved by having a gabby/gloaty villain? Zoomway@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:54:36 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Re: The Evil Henchman's Guide In-Reply-To: <44fdb2e0.349ad417@aol.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 03:07 PM 12/19/97 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 97-12-19 07:15:08 EST, you write: > ><< 2. When the hero or his sidekicks are at your mercy, don't stop to > gloat. >> > > > >This would actually be a good category for the L&C Concordance. How many times >were Superman, Clark, Lois (etc, etc) saved by having a gabby/gloaty >villain? > >Zoomway@aol.com > I think Stop the Presses would win the award for the category... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:30:40 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Patric6928 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: nfic Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-19 13:35:38 EST, you write: << > Kathy (who, despite that last comment, will take on all comers in the > "porn" versus "erotica" debate. ... no pun intended.) >> LOL. I think I have this debate...and being an avid reader of nfic...um...let the games begin! Patricia ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:18:22 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Robin Harris Subject: Re: Archive Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Yes! I have been having problems too. It is nice to know it's not just me. It's particularly frustrating now that newcomers have the game (Kathy's Challenge) to direct them to interesting stories on the archive. I'm sure the wonderful folks who maintain the archive will have the problem under control soon. I have great faith in them. In the meantime, I have made requests directly to the author. I'll now go back to my hidden observation point. Robin >Is anyone else having trouble actually retrieving stories from the archive? > >I have been having more trouble getting the stories off (connection problems, >ect), and yesterday there was a post that someone couldn't get Zoomway's >"Counter Clark Wise" off the archive. I thought this was just my problem, but >maybe not. > >Does anyone have a clue what is going on? I have left a message to the >archive, and if they let me know what's up I'll pass it on, but I was hoping >someone out there knew what was up. > >Let me Know. > > >Thanks, >Crystal >JCWimmer@aol.com > > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:30:28 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: nfic In-Reply-To: <48968f59.349ae782@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 4:30 PM -0500 12/19/97, Patric6928 wrote: >LOL. I think I have this debate...and being an avid reader of nfic...um...let >the games begin! Patricia must have been on IRC on some of the nights where I've gotten into this with people. A friendly debate, don't get me wrong. Well ... usually. My favorite was when a 16 year old came in and told us that we were all going to hell because reading and writing nfic was a sin. Then she dug her hole deeper by saying that it was also a sin to dream/daydream/fantasize about Dean because "you shall not covet" and all that. As Clark says ... oh boy. Kathy (who may regret sending this email ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:39:04 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Zoomway Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: The Evil Henchman's Guide Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-19 16:11:50 EST, gar8434@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU writes: << I think Stop the Presses would win the award for the category... >> That's the first one that leaped to mind as well Poor macho Dean. The script had actually called for Lois to rescue Superman by crashing the jeep into the silo to 'let the sun shine in' but Dean thought that made Superman look wussy, so wanted Superman to save himself. So the scene, bereft of suspense, drones on and on. Oh well, Dean's macho mindset also led to the nice elevator makeout scene in Brutal Youth, so I'm not complaining ;) Zoomway@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:57:02 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Gardner Family Subject: Thank You!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FoLC's Thanx all you peeps that sent me "Counter Clark-Wise"(about 20 of you) I = have a question. I think I'm the youngest person on the list. (I'm 13) = Is there anybody out there younger than me?=20 Merry Christmas All if I don't e-mail you before. Bradley Joseph Gardner=20 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:04:09 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: The Gardner Family Subject: Problems with the Archive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey guys, the archive is still screwing up. Every time I try to open a = long story it spits out a message saying "Internet Explorer cannot open = url http:/www.ixpres.com/yadayada" (I didn't feel like looking up the = site) I don't know what's wrong. It's usually Zoomway's stories = or Demi's LOOOOOOONNNNNNNGGGGGGGG story Heaven's Prisoners. Help me = please, I luuuuuvvvvv fics. Oh yeah, wuz an n'fic. I know what it is(a = romance novel like story with suggestive scenes and sex) but what does = it stand for? Happy Holidays!!!!!!!!!!!! Brad ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 22:17:58 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Problems with the Archive Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I am having the same problems. I left a message with the archive folks, but the answer wasn't really specific. Try leaving them a message, and maybe if enough of us complain we can get it fixed. Good Luck! Crystal ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:30:20 -0600 Reply-To: peabody@mcs.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Pat Organization: Amarna House Subject: TND review and Fanfic challenge Comments: To: The New Adventures of Superman MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi FoLCs, I'm sending this to both lists; my apologies in advance to those of you who get it twice. TND seems to be opening to mixed reviews, but I thought FOLCS might enjoy reading this reviewer's opinion. Maybe he's an L&C fan! And for the fanfic challenge: Since this fine review was written by the critic for the Kansas City Star, which fanfic featured Clark as editor of this paper? S P O I L E R S P A C E > > > PREVIEW > 'Tomorrow Never Dies'...but Bond mystique might Body count soars while script scuttles > subtleties of series. > ROBERT W. BUTLER > > 12/19/97 > The Kansas City Star > METROPOLITAN > Page 10 > (Copyright 1997) > > > > How it rates > > 2 stars > > ``Tomorrow Never Dies,'' a James Bond movie, opens today and is rated PG-13 for intense > sequences of action violence, sensuality and brief language. Running time is 1 hour 55 minutes. > > Showing at the Bannister Square, BarryWoods 24, Belton 8, Blue Springs, Dickinson, Great Mall > 16, Independence 20, Kansas City 18, Liberty 8, Noland Fashion Square, Oak Park Plaza, > Olathe Station 30, Plaza, Town Center 20, Ward Parkway 22 and WestGlen 12 theaters. > > Something weird has happened to James Bond. > > As introduced 18 films ago by Sean Connery, Agent 007 was an attractive letch, a sneaky spy > with style to spare. He was adept at killing - quietly and efficiently, without drawing too much > attention to himself. But given his druthers he'd rather hole up with a pretty girl and a martini > (shaken, not stirred). > > The James Bond in ``Tomorrow Never Dies'' is less a secret agent than a one-man commando > execution squad. He is only marginally interested in sex, having traded in the girl for a large > automatic weapon with which he mows down bad guys left and right. > > Once again he's played by Pierce Brosnan, who could be the best Bond since Connery. But the > sad truth is that the Bond of ``Tomorrow'' could have been played by Arnold Schwarzenegger. > > And that's probably OK with today's audiences, who tend to equate body counts with > entertainment value. > > This time around 007 squares off against crazed media mogul Elliott Carter (Jonathan Pryce), who > first manipulates his communications satellite to misdirect a British warship into Chinese waters, > then uses his newspaper and cable TV empire to push the world to the brink of World War III. > How Carter is going to benefit from such a conflagration is a mystery but, hey, the guy's nuts, right? > > The film's high point arrives early on when Bond discovers that Carter's wife, Paris (Teri Hatcher), > is actually an old flame. Their reunion is volatile: She smacks him. > > ``Was it something I said?'' Bond says ruefully. > > ``How about 'I'll be right back'?'' Paris shoots back. > > Good dialogue. In fact, just about the only good dialogue in Bruce Feirstein's screenplay. > > The scenes with Hatcher work because, for a brief moment, Brosnan's Bond is vulnerable. He > bailed on this woman because he cared too much for her and was afraid of all that implied. The > brief rekindling of their romance has a sexy, bittersweet quality that genuinely works. > > Alas, Paris is quickly written out of the script, and from that point on ``Tomorrow Never Dies'' is > one big action sequence after another. > > If the new Bond flick pretty much abandons whatever subtlety the long-running series once > possessed, at least it is starting to give its female characters some substance. > > Bond's unlikely ally in battling Carter is a Chinese woman spy played by Hong Kong action star > Michelle Yeoh. This woman is every bit as tough, resourceful and efficient as her English > counterpart. And besides her karate moves, Yeoh has the acting chops to give her character a > personality despite the role being badly underwritten. > > ``Tomorrow Never Dies'' was directed by Roger Spottiswoode, whose career has covered > everything from topical cable drama (``And the Band Played On'') to Tom Hanks comedy > (``Turner and Hooch'') and horror (``Terror Train''). > > But like his predecessors, Spottiswoode has found his individuality crushed by the Bond > juggernaut. The series has a life of its own; no mere director can hope to put his stamp on it. > > CAPTION:Pierce Brosnan and Michelle Yeoh in'Tomorrow Never Dies'; Photo; CREDIT:United > Artists > > > > > Copyright © 1997 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Pat -- peabody@mcs.com pattijean@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:23:01 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Patric6928 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: nfic Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-19 18:29:42 EST, you write: << My favorite was when a 16 year old came in and told us that we were all going to hell because reading and writing nfic was a sin. Then she dug her hole deeper by saying that it was also a sin to dream/daydream/fantasize about Dean because "you shall not covet" and all that. As Clark says ... oh boy. Kathy (who may regret sending this email ) >> LOL. Wow. I REALLY need to hit confession and quick. I'm in trouble on so many counts....geez, I'm not sure I can say that many "Hail Mary"s and still get work done. Hmmmm. Patricia (ok, ok, no more sacreligous statements, I promise (picture Clark here at the end of the luthor wedding) ) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 00:36:46 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Problems with the Archive In-Reply-To: <965d3b77.349b38e9@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:17 PM -0500 12/19/97, JCWimmer wrote: >I am having the same problems. I left a message with the archive folks, but >the answer wasn't really specific. Try leaving them a message, and maybe if >enough of us complain we can get it fixed. Good Luck! > >Crystal Sigh. Believe me, guys, this is not something that we are ignoring because "not enough people are complaining". See my last email ... I think I explained things pretty clearly. You know what we know. Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 00:38:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: nfic In-Reply-To: <01BD0CC1.B3D45360@ppp21.htc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 9:04 PM -0600 12/19/97, The Gardner Family wrote: >Oh yeah, wuz an n'fic. I know what it is(a romance novel like story with >>suggestive scenes and sex) but what does it stand for? Nfic (or nfanfic) stands for "naughty" fanfic. The stories are rated R or NC-17, as opposed to G, PG, or PG-13. Most authors require that readers be 18 or over to read them, etc. and they aren't archived anywhere. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:00:56 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Joan Organization: MailCity (http://www.mailcity.com) Subject: Re: Fanfic challenge Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pat Wrote: >And for the fanfic challenge: Since this fine review was written >by the critic for the Kansas City Star, which fanfic featured >Clark as editor of this paper? Um, the closest fanfic that comes to my mind is Chris Mulder's fantastic 'Meet Me in Kansas City'. But I checked in my hard drive and Clark was only an assistant editor at Kansas City Dispatch(not Star)!! I think I may need to think harder.:) By the way, Meet Me in Kansas City is really a great fanfic. I cry everytime I read it. Joan aka dmj(a sentimental softie:) ***************************************************************** * My Lois & Clark page: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~dmyeung/ * ***************************************************************** Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 01:02:25 +0900 Reply-To: lizo@ozemail.com.au Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Liz Olsson Subject: Re: Problems with the Archive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You too huh. I left a message some time ago and although the advice I received allowed me to get the story I was then looking at I have since had real troubles with the Heaven's Prisoners story. The long stories really seem to be causing trouble! Liz ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 11:22:24 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Bookwurm83 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Thank You!! Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit <> I'm not younger, but I'm not much older (I'm 14). Jessica ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:11:59 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: JCWimmer Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Problems with the Archive Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 97-12-20 00:37:34 EST, you write: << Believe me, guys, this is not something that we are ignoring because "not enough people are complaining". See my last email ... I think I explained things pretty clearly. You know what we know. >> Please, let me rephrase: I was told in the e-mail that the description of my problem was unclear. It was my hope that if another person were to give a more clear definition of the problem (I am barely computer literate enough to find my way here ) you would be able to clear the problem up more quickly. I apologize for my phrasing. I suppose in that way I am a bit like Lois: I jump in without testing the water level. I am really sorry if I offended anyone. I appreciate all the work that goes in to the archive as well as the newsgroup, and I don't want you to think I take your efforts for granted. Thanks again for all you do! Crystal ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:03:02 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Patric6928 Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: More Dean Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit This could get complicated because he is also supposed to playing in Rock N Jock, but since they are both in San Diego, I guess it is possible. The San Diego Union-Tribune, December 18, 1997 December 18, 1997, Thursday SECTION: LIFESTYLE; Ed. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8; Pg. E-2 LENGTH: 527 words HEADLINE: Fashion show will be just super SERIES: BURL STIFF BYLINE: BURL STIFF BODY: The Super Bowl surpassed Santa Claus as a seasonal topic at the 12th annual Holiday High Tea given by San Diego's Hall of Champions Auxiliary. Members crowded the Versailles Room at the Westgate Hotel for the traditional gathering chaired by Mag White. (This was her fourth year in that role.) Ellen Jackson was Mag's co-chair. There was no lack of Christmas spirit at the tea, but the big news was "Passion for Fashion," the second annual Super Bowl fashion show that will benefit the Hall of Champions Auxiliary's "Say Yes to Sports" programs for girls. The Auxiliary will join Neiman Marcus and the National Football League in presenting the runway extravaganza on Saturday, Jan. 24, at the Hyatt Regency San Diego. They're calling it "The Super Bowl's Most Stylish Event," and they're expecting such celebrity models as Gail Devers, Jackie Joyner Kersee and Dean Cain, television's latter-day Superman. Half the money raised by the show -- and it probably will raise a lot -- will benefit the San Diego Hall of Champions. The other half will be earmarked for national nonprofit organizations fighting breast cancer. Meanwhile, back at the holiday tea, some of the women on hand were Betty Hubbard, Lisa Young, Kristi Pieper, Nancy Kronemyer, Marjie Atwood, Majel Carter, Mary Marinos, Suzanne Dutcher, Pat Blumberg, Marjorie McLaughlin, Paula Henderson and Judy Ruffell. Among the others were Barbara McColl, Kathie Johnson, Denice Bay, Gretchen Vik, Laura Johnson, Yvonne Lindroth, Kay Rippee, Charlotte Nielsen, Merrilyn Arn, Betty Saville, Dorothy Hudson, Pam Sullivan, Patricia Clark, Ellie Weeks, Rose Ellen Howard, Jan Woods, Lee Codington and Lila Daniel. Still more in the Versailles Room were Becky Hinchman, Martha Hernandez, Evie Ault, Susan Clark, Marianne Kuzma, Jody Reed, Karen Davis, Shelli Webster, Dyanne Bowers, Mary Patterson, Lynda McDaniel, Nina Scott, Dorothy Frels, Kady Livesay, Pat Fritzenkotter, Toni Savoy, Linda Hallam, Tammy Duncan, Mary Moller, Jeannie Groebli and Lynn Silva. Lynn chairs the Hall of Champions Auxiliary's "Passion for Fashion" committee. As part of the razzle dazzle of Super Bowl XXXII, the fashion luncheon is expected to attract 1,100 patrons. Hosts will be actress Holly Robinson Peete and Philadelphia Eagles' quarterback Rodney Peete. The Neiman Marcus fashions will be modeled by NFL players, women athletes and entertainers, as well as by professional models. (If you think it odd that a women's auxiliary should be so excited about a football weekend, the NFL would have you know that more than 50 million women watched last year's Super Bowl game, and that 43 percent of the NFL's fans are women. So there.) Some of the guests nibbling tea sandwiches, scones, pastries and strawberries with cream at the Hall of Champions tea were Kirk Butler, Maria Stanley, Evelyn Page, Ingrid Poole, Bonnie Hage, Wendy Grumet, Pat Menke, Eleanor Rippo, Barbara Franovich, Joyce Deneris, Lynn Luckey, Mary Goodall, Patty Payne, Debra Lusardi and Kathy Curran. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 20:36:16 +0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Mills Subject: Re: Author's Rights (re: Truth or Dare) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971219144457.006aa4b0@mail.ozramp.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Jen While I *do* understand the copyright implications of this - it is really annoying for you guys to be enthusing over a Fic that I will *never be able to read It's a long way to Melbourne..... Jenny At 14:44 19/12/97 +1100, you wrote: >At 10:36 PM 18/12/97 EST, Larus2407 wrote: >>In a message dated 97-12-18 22:20:45 EST, you write: >> >><< I'm more interested in >> netiquette here than legal stuff, which is still pretty shaky and >> unenforceable for Internet things. >> >> >>Although more difficult to enforce, copyrights still hold true on the >>internet. Unless otherwise specificied, I'd assume the author holds the >>copyright and therefore the publishing rights. I'd suggest that proper >>netiquette be to adhere to the author's request. Now if I came to visit you >>could I read Gail's story on your computer if I didn't copy it to take it >>home (wouldn't that be like lending a book)? > >I have Truth or Dare on my computer... I was unaware that Gail had removed >her stories from the archive. Where does that place me, if I had >(hypothetically) passed on her (non-nfic) stories to anyone else? (I know >the rule about not passing on nfic without authors permission.) > >>--Laurie (wondering where in the world you are in case we all want to come >and >>read these undistributable stories) > >I'm in Melbourne, Australia. You're more than welcome to come visit, though >I don't know if I'd lend you my Dean Lever Arch Binder full of printed out >nfic . Oh, yeah, and Joe says you have to prove that you're not an axe >murderer before arriving here . >-- >Jenny Stosser -*- jenerate@ozramp.net.au -*- (Jenerator or MoiAussie on IRC) >This message is umop ap!sdn -*- David is 5 and Megan is 2! Photos on the >Stosser Family HomePage: http://www.ozramp.net.au/~jenerate Please Visit! > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jenny Mills j.mills@netcom.co.uk jmills@ccta.gov.uk Lois: In one lousy second, I lost my partner and my best friend. He died without knowing. I never told him. - ToGoM Wells: Destiny has blessed you both with each other. No small gift indeed. There's many people who travel alone through, well, their whole lives and envy what you two have together . . . greatly. - Soul Mates ------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:11:17 PST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Peace Everett Subject: Re: Author's Rights (re: Truth or Dare) In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19971220203616.008008f0@mail.netcom.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jenny sniffled: > While I *do* understand the copyright implications of this - it is real= ly > annoying for you guys to be enthusing over a Fic that I will *never be = able > to read /me offers Jenny a hanky, and then grabs a second one to cry along. I = never got the stories either - PG or nfic. Would someone who is in contact with Gail let her know there are people = sobbing to read her stories and beg her to distribute them again? We'll = be good -- we promise!! Peace ::sniff, sniff:: ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 18:41:55 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Gary Subject: Xmas Fic Rerun:"Promises To Keep" In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If it makes you cry and laugh, then I've succeeded.... "Promises To Keep" (slightly re-edited and I hope spellchecked) [It's not nfanfic; it's WHAMy and WAFFy. Be sure to brush your teeth when you're done.;-) Characters and locations are copyrighted DC Comics, Warner Bros., Dec. 3rd Productions and ABC-TV. And Sesame Street and the Children's Television Workshop. No infringement is intended in any part by the author, however, the ideas expressed within this story are copyrighted by the author. This material is rated: PG-13. Song lyrics are copyrighted by their respective artists and record label.] Style conventions: *unspoken thoughts* _emphasis_ ~music/singing~ ~->flying<-~ *********** Lois Lane Kent was up before her husband this morning. It seems that Superman had had a long night protecting Metropolis. She had showered, dressed and put on her makeup, and turned to see that her husband still hadn't moved since she left him. Grinning wickedly she walked on her knees across the bed. She pressed her body against his and pressed her moist lips against his forehead and down his nose to his lips. Suddenly she found herself underneath her husband and he was on top kissing down her jawline. "Clark!" "Mmm. Good morning, honey.", he said before resuming his kissing. "Stop it, I don't want to get dressed again!", she said half-heartedly. "Hey, you're married to a man who can dress you at superspeed." "Mmmm, tickle me, Elmo!", she murmured against his lips. ....Meanwhile outside their home... *Augh! What a line!*, he thought to himself. He took the headphones off and placed them down next to the surveillance equipment and looked over the van, trying not to think about what Lois and Clark were doing. The very thought sent shivers down his spine. He looked at his watch. "Soon, very soon." he said to himself. *********** The elevator at the Daily Planet newsroom opened and Lois and Clark Kent, husband and wife, transformed into their alter egos: Lois Lane and Clark Kent, the best news team in town. At her desk Clark squeezed and released Lois' hand and she sat down to look at her inbox, and Clark went to get them coffee and bagels. As he was doing this, the janitor was just finishing up. This wasn't unusual, as the Planet staff worked late into the night and the cleaning staff had to clean in the early morning hours, after the morning edition 'went to bed'. What was unusual was the queasy feeling that Clark had after the janitor passed him. At first he thought it might be Kryptonite, but when he made eye contact with the janitor, he forgot about that and tried to place the familiar face. *I don't remember seeing him as a janitor*, Clark thought, *but I know I've seen him before, but where and when?.* Clark shrugged off the feeling of deja-vu to generally feeling weird, ever since he and Lois decided to get pregnant. He was having all these weird daydreams and feelings about being a father and having a child. And the Christmas holiday season wasn't helping. "Here's your decaf and bagel.....mommy." "Thank you.", then Lois paused, turned her head towards him and with wide eyes, mouthed 'MOMMY!?' "Just seeing how it sounds." Clark shrugged and smiled. "Well, you better keep your appointment with Dr. Klein." "I will." He turned to walk over to his desk. At the same time the janitor pulled his cart up alongside of Lois' desk. Suddenly, the janitor reached into the trash bag on the cart and pulled out a molecular disrupter which looked just the one that Lex Luthor had had but this one had an green glow about it. He banged his fist on Lois' desk. "Wake up, Lois! You don't want to miss this!" Lois jumped at the interruption and turned to follow the unfamiliar man's action away from her desk. "Clark Kent!", the 'janitor' bellowed, making Clark look up from his desk and move to the side having not yet sit down. "Prepare to Die!....Superman!" "I think you mistaken....Mr...?" "I'm the one with the secret identity now!", the 'janitor' laughed. Suddenly, in a microsecond Clark realized where and when he knew this face from. It was the cloned body that Lex Luthor was going to hide away with Wanda Detroit. And he quickly recognized the the molecular disrupter and the sickly green glow about. As the entire newsroom came back into focus for Clark, he was paralyzed by fear for the first time in his life he had no idea what to do. "I win!", 'Luthor' pulled the trigger. "No!", Lois screamed. As the hum of the molecular disrupter rose, the large window on the west of the newsroom shattered and a red, yellow and blue blur, grabbed the disrupter from 'Luthor's' hands and smashed through the east window. The office Christmas tree fell over. "Superman!" several staffers said at once. "What? No!", 'Luthor' swore. ************* Out over Metropolis, 'Superman' stopped and hurled the disrupter into the sky. Concentrating his heat vision on it until it exploded into dust, Superman turned back towards the Daily Planet. ************* Before anyone in the Daily Plant had a chance to ask what was going on, 'Superman' was back in a blur just like before and this time he grabbed 'Luthor' going from the east window to the west. 'Luthor' came to and realized that he was being held somewhere high over the Grand Canyon by Superman. Well, he looked somewhat like Superman, the usually solid blue unitard was actually only blue on the sides and black in the middle and no red undies with a yellow belt on the outside and the boots were black, too. The cape looked the same except that it looked attached to the S-shield and the unitard covered the neck and forehead of the 'Superman'. He also wore a pair of yellow transparent goggles like a skier, and he held 'Luthor' in yellow gloves that diffused into the blue/black of the unitard. [For comic fans: Yes, it's the Eradicator's uniform.] "Do I know you?", 'Luthor' snarled. "No." "Well, who are you?!" "I'm not going to tell you that, you don't deserve it. But, you can think of me as judge, jury, and executioner." And with that 'Superman' released 'Luthor' and watched him fall and scream and flap his arms and beg and plea until . ************ A few moments after 'Superman' left with the janitor.... "Clark!", Lois ran over to Clark and hugged him for dear life as they both collapsed and held each other up. "Are you okay? What happened?", Lois' sobbed into his chest. "I don't know who saved me, but I think that the janitor was the clone that Luthor had made for himself and Wanda Detroit." "Luthor's alive!" she gasped. "Yeah, well, what do you expect from a cockroach?", Clark spat. "Lois, Clark, are you two okay?", Perry asked. "Yeah, Chief, we're okay.", Clark sighed. "Whoa! Did you guys see Superman?!", Jimmy exclaimed, "I mean, whoosh, whoosh!" and Jimmy demonstrated with his arms flying in each direction. "We all saw it Jimmy. Now, go get someone to fix these windows before we all freeze to death.", Perry ordered. Some staffers were gathering to help lift up the tree. "Are you two up to getting the story from Superman?" "Yeah, we'll get right on it, Chief." ************* 'Superman' was inside Lois and Clark's home and looking at pictures of the couple. He picked one up. "My favorite", he said to himself. Reflections by the Supremes ~Through The Mirror Of My Mind~ ~Time After Time~ ~I See Reflections Of You And Me~ ~Reflections Of, The Way Life Used To Be~ ~Reflections Of, The Love You Took From Me~ ~Oh, I'm All Alone Now~ ~No Love To See In Me~ ~Trapped In A World That's~ ~A Distorted Reality~ ~Happiness You Took From Me~ ~And Left Me Alone With Only Memories~ ~Through The Mirror Of Mind~ ~Through These Tears That I'm Cryin'~ ~Reflects The Hurt I Can't Control~ ~Cause Although You're Gone~ ~I Keep Holding On...~ The door opened and Lois and Clark stepped into the living room. 'Superman' turned around and met Lois' eyes with his own. "Clark!", Lois pulled on his arm. "Who are you? Are you from New Krypton?", Clark rushed between Lois and 'Superman'. 'Superman' pulled off his yellow visor and pulled the mask down and held the framed photo in his hand to the side of his head with a questioning expression. Clark saw the resemblance between 'Superman' and Lois; Lois saw the resemblance between 'Superman' and Clark. Clark's mind raced for an answer...a man with my powers who looks like Lois has to be.....our _son_. "Son?", Clark breathed. Lois gasped at that and covered her mouth as she began to cry. 'Superman' paused then smiled and after replacing the picture, "Hi, Mom and Dad, I'm home!" 'Superman' quickly zoomed past Clark and caught Lois, er, his mom, as she fainted. As he scooped her up, he said to Clark, "Does she do this alot?" *********** After placing Lois on the couch an getting a cool cloth for her head. Clark turned to 'Superman', "What's your name?" "I'm not going to tell you that, just like I'm not going to tell you how old I am or where, when or how I traveled through time." "Why not?" "Various reasons. You deserve the joy of naming your own child and you should bond to him not me." "But aren't you him?" "Not anymore. You died today Clark, you were murdered by Luthor in that cloned body." "What did you do with him?" "He's been....disposed of." Clark looked shocked at the implication. "It doesn't matter, in the original history, the kryptonite modifications he made to the molecular disrupter blew it and him up shortly after he killed you. It took awhile to figure out it was him." "Still you shouldn't have..." "I know you have this high moral code and all that, but please spare me, look what it got you, a miserably short marriage and an orphaned child. You should have killed him as soon as you knew what kind of man he was you would have saved so many lives. Not the least of which, my parents, so that you can teach me to uphold that moral code you hold so dear." Realizing the implication of his statement, Clark asked, "What happened to her...your mother? You said Luthor died in the other time line." "She died in childbirth, presumably since you weren't there to help. I was raised by Jonathon and Martha until they died when I was 12." "What then?" "I told you I'm not going to tell you about my life. I don't like my life! That's why I came here to save you two. Raise up your son and make sure he turns out nothing like me." "Are you going to go back?" "I can't. Causality Violation." "Oh, right." "I'm going to fly into the sun." "What?!" "I have to. I can't spend much time around here, she's a few weeks pregnant with me now. A few more weeks and the brain development will be significant enough for him to read my thoughts, I sure don't want to remember this life. I want a new one." 'Superman' pulled his glove off and itched a rather nasty looking rash. "What's that from?" "The kryptonite that was in the disrupter. From what I can tell, I'm not quite as strong or as fast as you but my reaction to kryptonite is alot milder. It's a tradeoff." *********** [Looking through the snowy window of the Kent's home.] "Take Me Home For Christmas" by Deborah Gibson ~Christmas Songs Are Playing~ ~But Not For Me~ ~Why Does Everything Seem So Out Of Place?~ ~Everyone Thinks This Is A Merry Time For All~ ~And To See The Frozen Tears Upon My Face~ ~Someone Take Me Home For Christmas~ ~So I Won't Be Alone~ ~Let Me Have A Family~ ~To Call My Very Own~ ~And Then~ ~I'll Feel The Joy That They're All Singing Of~ ~This Christmas Just Give Me Someone To Love~ ~I Was Too Small To Remember~ ~Though I Cried Out Loud~ ~I Wish They Would Write Or Call Me~ ~I Guess They're Just Too Proud~ ~People Make Mistakes~ ~Though The Heart Sunk To The Ground~ ~I'd Gladly Open My Arms If They'd Only Come Around~ ~All Year Came And Went~ ~I Held My Hopes Up High~ ~But Now I Need You Bad~ ~If Ever There Was A Time~ ~It's Just Once That We Live~ ~We Take So Much, Why Can't You Give?~ ~So Someone Take Me Home For Christmas~ ~So I Won't Be Alone~ ~Let Me Have A Mom And Dad Again~ ~Someone To Call My Own~ ~And Then~ ~I'll Feel The Joy That They're All Singing Of~ ~This Christmas Just Give Me Someone To Love~ Fade To Black... As the stars come into focus and the blinding light from the sun comes into view we see a small caped figure on a collison course. ************ Soft snow is falling outside as a winter morning dawns, and not just any winter morning... A five year old boy wakes from his sleep and he blinks the sleep from his eyes until realization dawns. *It's Christmas!* He throws the covers open and leaps from the bed, hovering for the slightest of instants before landing softly and running to his parents bedroom. "Mommy! Daddy! It's Christmas!" Again, the boy leaps into the air and lands between his parents. Shaking them each with one arm, "Wake up, Christmas is here!" Lois and Clark wake up and hug their son together, before Clark decides to tickle him as 'punishment' for waking his parents. Quickly, it morphed into a three way tickle fight with Lois tickling Clark and their son tickling his father as well. "Hey! No fair!", Clark complained and he tackled Lois on the bed and their son 'tackled' his father's back. "Now we're a family-wich!", the little boy giggled. Lois smiled up at Clark and whispered, "With _four_ layers!" Clark gasped at that, "You're pregnant?!" "Merry Christmas, Clarkie!" "Where do babies come from?" "Uh." "Oh." Fade Out... (Two fics for the price of one...this should warm you up.) ...Fade Back In... Lois and Clark are out celebrating their anniversary. They have left their son with the Kents who are visiting to help them celebrate. After a lovely dinner, thoughts turn towards dessert(s)... "Clark, I need to tell you something..." Lois smiled. "What, honey?" "I'm pregnant!" Clark kissed her and said, "I know." as he smiled, "I was wondering when you were going to tell me." "How did you know?" Clark tugged on his ear. A waiter came up to their table and place the microphone and songbook on the table. "Your song is up next." "What song?!", Lois demanded, confused. "Didn't I tell you?", Clark smiled, "Tonight is karyoke night!" "What?!" "How Deep Is Your Love" by The Bee Gees ~I know your eyes in the morning sun~ ~I feel you touch me in the pouring rain~ ~And the moment that you wander far from me~ ~I wanna feel you in my arms again~ ~And you come to me on a summer breeze~ ~Keep me warm in your love and then softly leave~ ~And it's me you need to show~ CHORUS: ~How deep is your love~ ~How deep is your love(echo)~ ~I really need to learn~ ~'Cause we're living in a world of fools~ ~Breaking us down~ ~When they all should let us be~ ~We belong to you and me~ ~I believe in you~ ~You know the door to my very soul~ ~You're the light in my deepest darkest hour~ ~You're my saviour when I fall~ ~And you may not think~ ~I care for you~ ~When you know down inside~ ~That I really do~ ~And it's me you need to show~ *I think I'm in danger of choking on my own vomit, again!* She checks across the dining room and gets up and makes her way through the diners when suddenly a waiter raises a weapon towards Lois and Clark our heroine grabs the gun and crushes it out of his hand and decks him. As he makes his way out of the restaurant, she inspects the remains of the weapon finding a green glowing crystal, which she wraps in lead foil from her purse and returns it there. Smiling at Lois and Clark, "Hello. Mind if I join you?" "Please.", Lois and Clark echo. After sitting down she notices Clark looking towards the entrance. "Oh, don't worry about Tempus, my big brother was outside waiting for him." "Your big brother?", Lois queried. "Yeah, he's about five now, right?" Clark's eyes bugged out as he realized she meant their son. "Are you our daughter?" "...One of them." "Oh Boy!...er...Girl....Girls!" THE END. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment | | with promise;) That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest | | live long on the earth. Ephesians 6:2-3 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:58:01 -0800 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Leanne Shawler Subject: Re: Author's Rights (re: Truth or Dare) In-Reply-To: <643080b7.349a5800@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Zoom wrote (and I snipped it all down to:) > >So, that was probably convoluted Anyway, anything we write is likely >copyrighted, but how good that would stand up when they are someone else's >characters, I don't know. > Well, you know, writers for tv series *don't* read fanfic because if that fanfic idea turns up in the series and the fanfic author gets nasty and starts to sue over TV writer taking fanfic author's *intellectual property* and making a profit out of it without due credit (run on sentence without ending :)). There are screenwriters out there complaining about this sort of thing all the time ... but I don't know of a case that has won. Anyway, in short, although the characters may belong to someone else -- as is often said in the disclaimers that front many a fanfic -- the ideas etc are all the author's. And it's up to them whether they should be reproduced and in what manner and so on. Some publishers, incidentally, consider any fiction published on the web as having already been published. Umm, in other words, if they wanna buy First North American Rights to your story and you've stuck in on the web, they mightn't want to buy because you have already published it in North America. Some publishers haven't formulated a policy on this ... but I'd imagine they'd want *their* edition to be the only available one. Anyway, I got off the track, but I kinda find this stuff interesting ... Leanne Leanne Shawler aka Volterra on IRC volterra@sd.znet.com http://www.znet.com/~volterra/leanne.html *********************************************************************** Lois and Clark Season 5 Fanfic: http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/mothership/60/season5.htm *********************************************************************** Midnight Dreaming: The Original Anthony Warlow Home Page: http://www.zweb.com/volterra/anthony.html *********************************************************************** ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:25:02 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Eraygun Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: NEW FANFIC ALERT ;) Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hi Folcs Just a quick note to let you all know that I will be posting a new IRC round robin fanfic to the list this afternoon called: 'Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas'. It' was written by Anne(AMCiotola @aol.com), ChrisM(mulders@mindspring.com) Doris(dorisschmill@gmx.net), Lansbury(Lansbury1@aol.com), Zoomway(zoomway@aol.com) and myself. It has been edited by Georgia Walden. A fully edited version of the story will be posted in the archives later, but since this is a seasonal story, I figured it needed to be distributed to someone before Christmas.;). It's about 36k so I will be sending it in 3 emails. Comments are welcome. Cheers, Eileen ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 12:00:00 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Beverly Latham Subject: 12/21/97 WEEKLY UPDATE - KATHY'S CHALLENGE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please note, there may be responses and/or solutions listed here that haven't appeared on the list, because people have begun sending them directly to me. That's fine because it saves list traffic, but remember those won't appear to everyone else until the upcoming Sunday posting. Beverly ;-) KATHY'S CHALLENGE SUMMARY [as of this posting & working backwards] #. trivia clue = fanfic title [author] submitted by : correct responses *all responses listed as recieved, right or wrong NOTE: Items labeled with I# are inquiries about fanfics someone is trying to find, not where they already know the titles NOTE: Unless otherwise noted as *nfic* [distributed by Debby's nfanfiction list] OR *private* [distributed privately by author], all fanfics discussed are available at the LOIS & CLARK FANFICTION ARCHIVE at: *****STILL TO BE SOLVED OR CONFIRMED***** INQUIRIES: I 4. Clark gives Lois a Superman bra = ? Beppo : *Joan - COMFORTABLE AS AN OLD SHOE *Loir - COMFORTABLE AS AN OLD SHOE [Lara E. Taylor (Chyronguru@aol.com)] I 3. Lois & Clark go film a commercial for the DP = ? Beppo : *Joan - TOP BANANA [?] *Pat - TOP BANANA [?] I 1. Superman teddy for Lois made by Martha = ? Pat : I S. All storied which refer to teddies = ? Peace Everett : CHALLENGES: 19. Since this fine review [of TOMORROW NEVER DIES] was written by the critic for the Kansas City Star, which fanfic featured Clark as editor of this paper = ? Pat : 17. "Excel with X-El" = ? Peace : 14. Chocolate Milk, a three year old who doesn't speak English, and a woman who can't have children... A FREAK ACCIDENT [?] Adrienne : *Joan - A FREAK ACCIDENT [?] 13. Claude comes back ... and Lois goes out with him! = MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] Kathy : PJ, Bec *PJ - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] *Bec - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixen] *Crystal - MENAGE A TROIS [Vixin] 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." = ? Becky : *Mandi - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] *Kathy - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" = ? Becky : *Pam Jernigan - CULINARY DELIGHTS [?] *****EVERYTHING PAST THIS POINT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED SOLVED***** INQUIRIES: I 5. an undercover Clark purchasing a kidnapped Lois in an auction = BLACKMAIL [?] Tracy : Bec *Bec - BLACKMAIL [?] I 2. Lois & Clark shooting a music video = MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] Nethra : Joan, Bec, Patricia *Joan - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Bec - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [Kendra Prince] *Patricia - MAY THE BEST SUPERMAN WIN [?] CHALLENGES: 18. "Hey, *nice*," he said; this bland statement bore no resemblance to his internal reaction, which began with *Wow!* and moved on into near-incoherence. = BEEFCAKE [Phil Atcliffe] Peace : Bec *Bec - BEEFCAKE [Phil Atcliffe] 16. Sam figures out Clark is Superman ... and orders him away from his daughter! = THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS [Kathy Bell] Kathy : Bec *Bec - THE DAY AFTER CHRISTMAS [Kathy Bell] 15. Clark works the kissing booth = MISSING YOU [Kaytee Shultz] Kathy : Bec *Bec - MISSING YOU [Kaytee Shultz] 12. Clark goes undercover as a male stripper (and no, it's not an nfic ) = GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] Kathy : Joan, Bec *Joan - GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] *Bec - GYPSY CLARKIE [Marta Olson] 11. Lois and Clark play truth or dare = TO TELL THE TRUTH [Gail Lefkowitz] *lost & gone* Kathy : PJ *PJ - TRUTH OR DARE? [?] [but she described the plot!] 10. "Oh, what a night! ... Late December back in '63 ..." = BAND [Bhavani Rao] Kathy : Bec *Bec - BAND [Bhavani Rao] 9. Random drug testing at the Planet = OOPS [Jenny Riecken] Peace : Kathy *Mandi - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - LITTLE BIRD [Debby Stark] *Kathy - OOPS [?] 8. "Superman is probably straighter than God, actually," Jimmy informed them. "He sure hasn't hesitated to kiss you plenty of times, Lois--Superman, I mean, not God--" = DAWNING, D11 [Debby Stark] Kathy : Alyssa M, Peace *Alyssa - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] *Peace - DAWNING #? [Debby Stark] 5. "The Hero" = HEIR: RETURN [Piper] Peace : Becky *Becky - THE HEIR [?] 4. Rapunzel = CYBERLINK [Zoomway] Peace : KathyB, PJ *Kathy - CYBERLINK [Zoomway] *PJ - CYBERLINK [Zoom] 3. rollerblades *and* Lois has a very strange nightmare = ALIEN NATION? [LadeeV] Beverly : Joan *Crystal - GELLATO WITH A TWIST [?] *Mandi - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Kathy - OUT OF CONTROL [Gina Blank] *Joan - ALIEN NATION? [?] 2. horsechestnut shower gel = SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* Beverly : Mandi *Laurie - THE NUTMEG ROOM [MizMollee] *nfic* *Mandi - WHISKEY GALORE [Dom] *nfic* *Mandi - SAN FRANCISCO SWEETIES [Dom] *nfic* *Ann - one of the NUTMEGs [MizMollee] *nfic* 1. Linda King & . . . Brad Pitt *and* RSVPs for wedding invitations = YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] Beverly : Michelle, Kathy *Michelle - YOU DIDN'T NOTICE [?] *Kathy - YOU DIDN't NOTICE [Kyla Gurganus] S. Superman teddy = LOIS' REVENGE [B.B. Medos] Beverly : Peace, KathyB *Peace - LOIS' REVENGE [?] *Kathy - LOIS'REVENGE/CLARK'S RESPONSE [?] ******************************* Beverly Latham blatham@hop-uky.campus.mci.net ******************************* ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:46:50 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Eraygun Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas part 1 of 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit HAVE YOURSELF A MERRY LITTLE CHRISTMAS An IRC Round Robin Fanfic by: Anne(AMCiotola @aol.com), ChrisM(mulders@mindspring.com), Doris(dorisschmill@gmx.net), Eileen(Eraygun@aol.com), Lansbury(Lansbury1@aol.com), and Zoomway(zoomway@aol.com) ChrisM^> Clark stood in the middle of Perry's office and couldn't think of a thing to say. He was going to be Chief Editor for a while. There were probably about a million things he should have been asking Perry, but he couldn't think of a single one right now. Perry was throwing out orders and recommendations and reminders faster than even Clark could take them down. His head was in a whirl. Had Lois felt like this the time she got named Chief Editor? Maybe it had been worse for her, though. When she'd gotten her promotion,she'd had no way of knowing that it was only going to be temporary. At least Clark knew that he'd be able to go back to his old job as soon as Perry returned from San Francisco. He should be able to handle things for a couple of days. Of course he could, he reassured himself silently as he wrote down yet another one of Perry's clipped remarks. Geez, but editors have to keep up with a lot of stuff. Even with all that was going on, however, Clark couldn't completely lose his sense of humor. This time, he thought with glee, it will be Lois who's sleeping with the boss. As if thinking of her could make her materialize, she suddenly appeared at his elbow and craned around his arm to look at the notes he was making. Clark looked up long enough to give her a welcoming smile which was tinged with apprehension. "And another thing ..." Their editor's voice snapped them back from the silent little exchange they were sharing. They stopped smiling at one another and turned to him. "Yes, Chief?" "Well, I, um ... That is ..." He was hedging a bit over whatever he was trying to say--a sharp contrast to the decisive tones of just a few moments before. Lois and Clark glanced at each other again. What was up? They waited, wondering why Perry should suddenly be so shy. His face took on a more determined look and he scooped his now stuffed briefcase off his desk and began to head for his office door. "It's like this. Alice might be joining me in San Francisco." He could see that his two reporters were pleased with his announcement, but held up a hand to interrupt any congratulatory exclamations. "Now don't get all worked up about it. It might not mean anything. But, well ...it's a beginning ... maybe." Clark recovered first. "Sure, Chief. We understand. Good luck." "Thanks, Clark. I 'preciate that." He looked over at the Elvis clock on his wall. "Judas Priest! I'd better scoot. You'll be fine, Clark." Clark didn't seem so sure about that, but he smiled at Perry anyway. "Thanks for the vote of confidence, Chief." "See you two in a few days," Perry said and then he turned and headed for the elevators, shouting out on the way for Jimmy to behave himself while he was gone. In the silence and calm left after Perry's departure, Lois and Clark looked at each other. "Any suggestions?" Clark asked his wife. She leaned forward to give him a quick kiss and a smile. "Well, as a matter of fact I do, but since we can't do anything about them here, you'd better just sit down at that desk and get to work, because ..." she pointed towards the newsroom and the people they could both see hovering there,"... you're about to get very popular." NEXT The next hour and a half left Clark's head spinning. Superpowers or not, he felt somewhat overwhelmed. Trying to listen to several people at once while giving orders at the same time was hard, though. In addition, he had to make a conscious effort to block out what his superhearing picked up. People in the newsroom were whispering among themselves. They were speculating about his promotion even though temporary as it was. Most were supportive or at least indifferent, but some were wondering, even envious. Clark had picked up a little of that when Lois had sat at this desk, but had put it down to Lois's being a women and perhaps promoted permanently. Clark had not been exactly thrilled when Perry had surprised him with the news that morning. He had done his best to talk his way out of it gracefully, but all the senior staff were either out or otherwise occupied. In addition, Franklin Stern had taken a personal interest in the best reporter team the Planet had. He had also set up a program to give promising young staff members a chance to experience management firsthand. His "Shoot for the Top" program was as worthwhile as it was demanding. Through it, some of the younger staff members had been able to fill in on the management floor, and Jimmy had substituted for the head photographer while he was on vacation. Jimmy had been thrilled to bits, but Clark liked his position. He liked to be hands-on on the job and, most of all, work together with Lois whenever possible. Editor in Chief was a lonely position. They had had a taste of that a few months ago when Lois had sat at this very desk. Clark still felt a pang of guilt at what had happened then. He was confident that they had learned from the experience, wouldn't make the same mistakes again. Yet he couldn't shake the nagging feeling of apprehension and anxiety that had settled in his stomach. Lois was going to be *out there* while he was jockeying his editor's desk. She was daring at the best of times, reckless at others. It was one of the points they were still getting into arguments over from time to time. Lois and he had been working on investigating money laundering that they suspected Intergang to be involved in though they didn't have proof yet at that point. If the people from Intergang got wind of their suspicion, things could get dangerous, very dangerous. Lois was never one to turn away from danger, but rather seemed to thrive on it. He had soon learned that trying to restrain her only seem to spark her on to be even gutsier, as if to spite him. Thus instead of constraining her, he either worked by her side or hovered in the background as unobtrusively as possible. This time, *he* was restrained, however. Any hovering would need to be done from behind his desk, and he was afraid he might not be able to come to her aid in time if she needed him. During the morning, his superhearing had picked up several emergencies that Superman would have otherwise attended to. Nothing vitally important thus far, but Clark still felt frustrated that he hadn't been able to help. Now was the first time since Perry had left that he had a moment to himself and was able to try and catch his breath. He looked up as he heard Lois's footsteps approach outside. She was carrying a stack of papers, but from the look on her face, he knew that it wasn't the papers she wanted to see him about. He breathed a silent sigh of relief when the door closed behind her. He was counting on her to help him when he needed to slip out of the Planet when Superman was needed. He had never been very good at coming up with excuses, and an editor in chief was ten times as much in the lime light than a mild-mannered reporter. He smiled as Lois approached his desk and bent to kiss him. There was a sudden screeching of brakes followed by a loud crash that didn't require superhearing to pick up. He and Lois exchanged a quick glance as as he cocked his head to home in on the scene in the street below. After a moment, he got to his feet hastily. "I've got to get there. It's bad, Lois, very bad. The ambulances will never make it in time." With that, he passed Lois and made for the door, only to find his way blocked by an excited Ralph who was waving a file at him. Ralph effectively had him cornered. Ralph's "headline story", of course, turned out to be just his usual nattering. Clark tried to make his way past Ralph, but he had him blocked effectively. Clark shot a pleading look at Lois, who winked in answer. "Ralph,..." she began. The file and Clark were forgotten as he made his way towards Lois. Clark made a quick getaway while Lois led Ralph to her desk. She noticed her husband had left a quick note on her desk on his way out...Thanks for taking care of Ralph. Be back soon. Love, Clark.. Lois smiled as she read the note and placed it inside her middle desk drawer. *** Clark as Superman arrived at the scene as people began to collect around the accident. He immediately started pulling the wrecked vehicles apart and began to tend to the injured. He was in the process of stopping the bleeding of one of the victims when the ambulances started to arrive at the scene. Superman told the paramedics what he had done and they took over. Before he left the accident one little boy came over to him and tugged on his cape. Superman looked down and smiled. "What can I do for you, little fellow?" Superman asked. The little boy stood in awe grasping his cape. "You are so awesome!" he said. "I want to be just like you when I grow up." Clark looked down at the little boy. "Thanks for the kind words but you'd better go back to your mother, she's looking for you." Clark pointed over to an anxious looking woman searching the crowd. The little boy ran to his mother but stopped and turned to wave. Superman waved back before making a fast retreat. Clark was back at the Planet before Lois could get rid of Ralph. He smiled at her and gave a small nod as he exited the elevator. "Didn't you want to show Clark your file and ask him what he thinks of it?" "Nah, I'd rather help you." He smiled and leaned forward to say, "You're prettier to look at than the Bossman." There was a small "Ahem" from behind him. Ralph jerked up and looked sheepishly at Clark. "I think this is what you want, Boss." Clark looked at Ralph and removed the file from his outreached hand. "Don't call me Boss." Ralph scurried away before Clark had anything else to say. NEXT ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:47:08 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Eraygun Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas part 3 of 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit HAVE YOURSELF A MERRY LITTLE CHRISTMAS: continued from part 2 A week later and just forty-eight hours to Perry scheduled return, Clark finally felt like he was beginning to get a hold of things. Gossiping in the newsroom had died down, too. People were generally adjusting to Clark's leadership style. Most of them were actually beginning to appreciate that Clark was one of them. Perry was still an old newshound at heart and his instincts hardly ever failed him, but it had been a while since he had been "out there." He had also had to let Superman step back and let official channels handle matters more often, something Lois told him he might want to remember even when he was back at his usual job. He had turned Beverly over to Lois's competent hands. He found that between the two of them, they were able to manage his new position although both were glad to know that it wasn't permanent. When approached by Stern just the other day if he wouldn't like to take a shot at the next opening for assistant editor's, Clark had made his position clear. Being a reporter for the Planet was what he had applied for when he originally came to Metropolis, and he didn't want it any other way. Tonight it even looked like he was going to make it home in time for dinner... in time to cook dinner, for he didn't like to have Lois designated to do that every night. With the holidays drawing close, things in Metropolis were quieting, too. His main concern now was that he hadn't had time to pick out a Christmas present for Lois. Clark stretched and got up from his desk, wandering over to the glass door to survey the newsroom abuzz with quiet but effective activity. He had learned to relax and trust the staff more once they were working on their assignments. He would need an excuse again, not for Superman-ish activities for a change, but for a husbandly one. He felt he could leave the scene for a while and finally do what he had wanted to do all week. He needed to get out of the newsroom unobtrusively for that purpose, however. He briefly considered faking being needed at an emergency, but quickly dismissed the thought. He didn't want to... couldn't lie to Lois. She read him like a book most of the time. He eventually decided for the truth, or at least something close to it. He opened the door and sauntered over to her desk. Standing behind her, he gently massaged her shoulders as he bent over her to read her screen. Seeing that she was almost done with her story, he quickly went to plan B. "Lois, there's that research project that needs to be done for the holiday issue." "Wasn't Jimmy working on that?" "Yes, he was. But I need him to take pictures for tomorrow's paper. It'll only be an hour or two." For a moment, it looked like Lois was about to argue, but she shrugged, then gave him a grin. "All right. Rank has its privileges, doesn't it?" He pulled himself erect for dramatic effect, but there was a twinkle in his eyes when he replied,"It does." "I'll be out for just an hour or so," he then added, placing a kiss on her forehead as he bent over her again. "You are?" she asked. "What are you up to?" "I'm not at liberty to say," he answered with a teasing smile. "Rank, you know..." NEXT Lois grabbed Clark by the tie and pulled his face closer to hers. "I don't know about that, farmboy. There are ways of making you talk." Clark chuckled. "That's true," he whispered. "Kyptonite has nothing on you." Lois giggled. "All right run along, I'm sure we'll be able to hold down the fort for a little while without you," Lois said as she gave Clark a peck on the cheek and then shooed him away from her desk. She smiled to herself as she watched him make a beeline for a waiting elevator. Just forty-eight more hours and they'd be *free*, she thought happily. Even though she had to admit that things had gone better than she expected, this business of having Clark as editor was a real pain. She was running out of excuses for him for one thing. She'd even reverted to using the 'cheese of the month club excuse'. Thank God Ralph had bought that one. And then of course there was Beverly. The fights with her over the menu for the party were becoming her own "Neverending Battle". But most of all she missed having her partner and best friend to work with on her story. This Intergang story seemed to be going nowhere fast but she knew there was something there. She just couldn't put her finger on it. But she was afraid to tell Clark. Now that he was editor he had a responsibility to the Planet as a whole, not just to her story, and he might feel duty bound to shelve it and reassign her to something else. And rather than cover that particular patch of ground again she figured that silence was the best course of action. Lois sighed. "Well, in a couple of days everything will be back to normal," she mumbled to herself, "or at least as normal as things ever get for us." And she began her research. Meanwhile Clark was at Kessel's Jewelry Emporium on Swan Street and was carefully examining the cameo locket he had decided to give Lois for Christmas. As he stood at the counter he was joined by Inspector Henderson and Captain Maggie Sawyer of the MPD. NEXT "Kent?" Clark looked at Henderson. "Don't worry, Inspector, I plan to pay for the purchase." Henderson shrugged. "I'd never peg you as the 'smash and grab' type, Kent. Your wife on the other hand.." Clark laughed. "Is there something I can do for you?" He then noticed Sawyer. "Uh oh. This serious?" Sawyer leaned on the counter. "Ever hear of the Grinch?" Clark raised his eyebrows, "Well, yeah, that guy who stole Christmas." Henderson leaned on the counter as well, making Clark uncomfortably bracketed by the two biggest names in Metropolis law enforcement. The clerk tapped on the counter glass. "Please, I didn't spend hours polishing to have it smudged." Henderson, his dry arroyo complexion and glasses making him look somewhat like a withered owl, contemplated the man for a moment. "I became a cop just so I could lean purposefully on counters and eat doughnuts. Don't blow the ambiance." The clerk clucked his tongue with disgust and decided to wait on a woman at the 'gaudy but impressive' counter. "So," Clark sighed, noting his purchase was going to wait. "What about the 'Grinch'?" Sawyer pulled a photo out of a manila envelope. "I believe you and Lane are familiar with this person?" "Oh, God," Clark whispered. "It's Jerry White." "Son of Perry and Alice White, height, 5'10, age--" "I don't need his statistics, Captain. Just *please* tell me he's not in trouble." "We don't know," Henderson said. "He was released on good behavior, largely due to the good word put in by Superman when he was arrested. Then he disappeared." Clark narrowed his eyes. "You wouldn't know he'd disappeared if you hadn't been following him." Henderson and Sawyer exchanged 'busted' glances. "He was consorting with one 'Bill Church, Jr' in prison." Clark shook his head. "That doesn't mean anything, Captain, you *know* that." "What I know is that he did get information before from a cellmate who needed some work done on the outside. He has that rep, and believe me, in prison it would be passed along and exploited." Clark tossed the picture back. "Forget it. Jerry wouldn't betray his father twice." "Then explain this," Henderson said, producing a security photo. "That's from Nealam's. The poshest store in Metropolis, and that guy robbing the till looks like Jerry White, and the wheel man seen in the blowup works for Intergang." Clark lowered his glasses subtly and zoomed in on the photo. He saw a gun pointed at Jerry's back. The person holding the gun was hidden behind a counter. "Tell you what, Henderson, blow up this whole section and if it still looks like Jerry, I'll get Superman to help you." NEXT Henderson peered speculatively at Clark for a moment, and then back down at the photograph. "You know something you're not telling me, don't you, Kent? I really hate it when you and Lois do that." He didn't sound as though he hated it, though - he sounded rather pleased, as if he'd gotten what he'd come for. Clark smiled. "That's possible, Inspector, Lois has been working on an Intergang story angle all week. You scratch our backs, and ..." He didn't have to say more. Henderson and Sawyer left, delighted to have a lead, and Clark motioned to the clerk that he was now ready to complete his transaction. He had Henderson's promise of an exclusive, which would give Lois's story a terrific boost, he was about to get her a present he was certain she would love, and Perry would be back tomorrow. Life was looking really good at the moment. Lois was on the phone when Clark arrived back at the Daily Planet newsroom. She could tell that he looked quite pleased with himself and wondered what he could have been up to. It had occurred to her that he was slipping away to buy her Christmas present because she'd searched the whole house and hadn't been able to find anything. Now, however, she wasn't so sure. He looked much happier than just the buying of a present would explain. As soon as she could, she hung up the phone and headed for his office. She had to wait while Clark dealt with two other reporters who had legitimate business with him before she could pump him for information. He relayed the highlights of his conversation with Henderson and Sawyer and she was as excited about the news as he was. This would mean a great deal to Perry. "Once they blow up that section of the photo and spot the gun, Jerry will be in the clear. And," Clark added, as he picked up a pad and pencil, "here's a sketch of the other guy in the photo." He finished the drawing at super speed and held it up for her. "Recognize him?" Lois took the pad. "You bet I do!" She hurried back to her desk and returned with the folder she'd been keeping with all her Intergang story notes. She rifled through it quickly and then held up a piece of paper triumphantly. "Here he is." The photocopy wasn't a very good one, but it was definitely the same guy. "This guy will make the connection to Intergang so tight, there will be no way they can wriggle out of this one. I'm calling Henderson." After that, things happened at an incredibly rapid pace. The police cleared Jerry of any possible charges, and the biggest Intergang story of the year was splashed gratifyingly across the Daily Planet's front page and nowhere else. Clark's last day as Chief Editor was a huge success. The entire staff was still basking in the glow of having scooped every other paper in the city when Perry and Alice stepped off the elevators and into a Christmas party in full swing. By some miracle, Mr. Stern's brilliant idea of having all the paper's advertisers come to the staff party hadn't worked out, so the people who really deserved the party were getting one unencumbered by outsiders. The staff welcomed their editor back with a warmth and enthusiasm which which touched him more than he could say. But there was more to come. Clark and Lois were filling him in on what had happened while he'd been gone. He'd read copies of the paper while he'd been in San Francisco, of course, but he wanted to know all the behind-the-scenes stuff, and his two top reporters were happy to oblige. Alice's attention had wandered, and so it was she who first saw her son step off the elevator. "Jerry!" she exclaimed in delight. That made Perry's head turn and he, too, smiled to see his younger son coming towards them. Lois and Clark left the Whites alone after hinting to Perry that he had a lot to be proud of in his son, and then wandered over towards the food table. They looked back in time to see Perry giving Jerry a hug. "That's great to see, isn't it?" Clark said. "Hmm. Much better than the last time Jerry was here," Lois agreed. Clark looked around the room as if searching for someone. "What's the matter?" Lois asked him. "Actually nothing," he told her contentedly as he turned to select some delicacies from the buffet table. "No, something is up, I can tell. Give," she commanded. "Okay. I knew coming into this party that we wouldn't have to put up with the advertisers being here, but I didn't dare hope that we would be spared the sight and sound of Beverly for the entire evening. I'm just feeling grateful, that's all." "Ahh, well, you can thank me later on, then." Clark's eye brows went up several inches. "You?" "Yep. Me. And ... you don't want to know how I did it, either. Trust me." "My dearest wife, I don't care. She's been a burr under my saddle all week. Now, thanks to you, we'll have a peaceful Christmas party without her, and I ... I can have all the mini hot dogs I want without her giving me the evil eye." Lois giggled. "First things first," she purred as she pulled Clark close and pressed her lips to his for a long, slow, deep kiss. The End?? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:46:59 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Eraygun Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas part 2 of 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit HAVE YOURSELF A MERRY LITTLE CHRISTMAS :continued from part 1 Clark shook his head and didn't even bother to hide his grin. He skimmed through the file from Ralph as he walked to his office. Lois watched Clark from where she was, then decided to find out why Superman had been needed. She had a feeling that it wasn't too newsworthy, but it gave her an opportunity to be with him. However as she approached the door, he was heading out again. "Come on, Lois, staff meeting." He smiled at her as he led her to the conference room. When they got there mostly everyone was waiting. Jimmy flew in after Clark and Lois. Lois took a seat next to Jimmy while Clark began the meeting. NEXT "I'm glad everyone could make it." Clark said pointedly as Ralph sauntered in and took a seat at the far end of the table. "I realize that it's Christmas and we're a little short handed now because of vacations and the flu. But Perry suggested some stories he wanted us to cover while he was away and I need to know all your current assignments. Let's start with you, Ralph." Jimmy snickered as Ralph flushed and dropped his jelly doughnut. "Er..well, I er, I'm currently working on that scandal involving the City Council," Ralph replied lamely. "What scandal?" Clark asked pointedly. "The one involving...er...kickbacks, that's it, kickbacks from that construction firm. It's big, really big, it's bound to be a Kerth award winner!" Clark eyed Ralph skeptically but restrained himself from commenting and proceeded around the table. As the meeting was drawing to a close Jimmy raised his hand. "Yes, Jimmy?" Clark asked. "I almost forgot, CK. I ran into Ms. St. John from the front office and she needs to talk to you about our holiday party." "The Planet's office party?!? Why does she want to talk to me about that? Does she want to change the day or time?" "Beats me, CK." Clark shrugged, adjourned the staff meeting, and headed to the elevator. Twenty minutes later he returned to the Planet's newsroom looking more than a little disgruntled. Lois met him at the top of the ramp. "What happened?" she asked. "Our holiday party has been co-opted." "What?!" "You heard me. The front office has decided that our regular office party should be used to entertain our major advertisers. So instead of our regular Christmas potluck, they want to have a full blown catered affair, and I have to meet with the caterer in ten minutes." "Well, Clark, how bad could that be?" Lois asked. Just then the elevator door opened and out walked Beverly, the caterer at their first wedding. NEXT Unlike a fine wine, Beverly had not improved with time. She was even more imperative and opinionated than she'd been while planning Lois and Clark's first almost- wedding. Lois glanced over into Perry's old office from time to time as she worked on her computer. From her vantage point she could see her husband's expression growing more morose with each passing moment. Looks like a job for Superman's wife, she thought, as she pushed back her desk chair and rose to her feet. "So, we're agreed, then," Lois heard as she crossed the threshold into the Chief Editor's turf. "French champagne, lobster bisque, salmon mousse, quiche, fresh vegetables, strawberries, and *no* mini hot dogs." Lois grinned. Poor Clark. He still wasn't going to get those little hot dogs he liked. His relief when he looked up and saw her standing there was almost enough to make her grin again, but she refrained and tried instead to draw Beverly's fire for a while. Clark's head was in a whirl. He could stop speeding locomotives, and leap any tall building in town, but when this Beverly person started spouting off about lace tablecloths, candelabra and LF&G, he knew he was out of his depth. He spotted Carl from Travel and Scotty from Sports hovering in the doorway and made an excuse to slip away. It would be a relief to deal with something like front page layouts, a shortage of 3-holed paper or even a broken down printing press ... anything but "Tangerine" Beverly! By the time he got back into his, er Perry's office, Lois and Beverly had reached a compromise, or rather several of them, and he found to his delight that his wonderful wife had even been able to get the mini hot dogs back on the menu. He put his arm around her as they watched Beverly striding towards the elevator. "I owe you ... *big* time, honey," he whispered to her. Lois turned away from the sight of Beverly repeatedly and vigorously pressing the button for the elevator, and reached up to try and tickle Clark's chin. "You bet you do, big fella, and don't think I won't collect on that, either." "That's all that's keeping me going today, Lois. The thought of 'later.'" "I know, sweetheart. Believe me, I know. And when Perry gets back we've got our own little Christmas celebration to look forward to, too." "I can hardly wait, Lois. Only one day on the job and I'm even more in awe of Perry." "You're doing fine, Clark. The paper's nearly ready to go, right?" "Yeah, it is--" The phone rang and Clark went over to answer it. "Kent here." Lois could only hear his side of the conversation. "Oh, hi, I--" .... "Really? That's great, but--" ..... "Oh, I see, but--" ..... "Are you sure? Couldn't you--?" .... "Okay. Sure. Okay. See you then." Lois watched Clark as he slowly put down the phone. "What is it, honey?" "That was Perry. Alice made it to San Francisco after all." "That's good, isn't it?" She couldn't understand why Clark should be looking so tired and discouraged. "Oh, sure, honey, I'm happy for them. Only it means that Perry won't be home the day after tomorrow now. He and Alice have decided to stay a few extra days because she thinks it's very romantic out there. They won't be back for a week." NEXT "A week?!" Lois said incredulously. Then seeing the rising panic in Clark's eyes she attempted to calm herself. "Well.. er, that's not so bad... We can handle that," Lois said as she gave Clark a reassuring smile."Look how well things have gone today." As if on cue a horde of Planet staffers crowded into Perry's office just as Clark's superhearing kicked in on the police sirens and ambulances heading towards the Metropolis airport. As the staffers surrounded his desk, Clark caught Lois's eye and gave a slight tug to his tie. "Oy," Lois mumbled to herself. NEXT Clark raised his eyebrows, the next step in his urgency signal to Lois. She bit her lip trying to think of something before he reached the 'puffing-out- words-backing-out-pointing-at-nothing' signal. "Clark, the mayor...wants..the uh.." "Yes, and unfortunately only I have that..uh.." "Right! So go!" "On my way." Lois just shook her head. They'd said nothing, but boy, it sounded urgent. The staff, sweeping its unified glance from the departing editor and back to the woman who filled the void, again found their disharmonious whine. Lois raised her arms. "Enough!" *** Clark felt guilty...but relieved. He hated dumping all of the wolves on Lois, but given he was Superman, and this was an emergency...who was he kidding. A cat up a tree would have gotten him out of there. He hovered over the airport a moment looking down on the chaos. There were smoke, lights, and people like ants in a blazing anthill running in all directions. *** "Ants," Lois said in disgust. "They can't think for themselves." She dropped the folders on her desk and watched the occasional pantomime of 'sounds like' with someone straddling a broomstick pointing at the editor's office. *** Clark landed on the runway. People were running in such panic they ran right into him and then picked themselves up from the surface, only to scurry away. He finally grabbed one elderly man whose face was nearly as red as the emergency lights visible through the smoke. "Let me go!" he wailed. Clark looked at him. "It's all right, sir. I can help." The man looked at him indignantly. "Help me what? Park my car? Do my taxes? Unless you've got Superman in your pocket then kindly let me continue running for my life!" Clark let his hands slip away and noticed he hadn't changed into Superman. He looked around and spun. "God," he whispered. "Does it have to be *so* Monday?" He ran into the smoke, and now there were whispers of "thank God" and "it's Superman!" Clark sighed, "That's more like it." NEXT Meanwhile back in the Jungle, er Planet..Lois had gotten things back under control a little. Clark, you *are* going to owe me big time for this, she thought. [I deleted the bracketing asterisks and added "she thought" to be consistent with the way others had indicated thoughts. I used the asterisks for emphasis since he'd already said the line to her earlier and it would make sense that she's reconfirming it.] She was already planning an assault for tonight. In the short time Clark had been gone she managed to start putting the paper to bed. She finally had some time to herself and got the chance to look over her short piece for tomorrow's edition. She even had the chance to reflect how Clark's first day as Editor was going. Lois sighed. Perry once told her that being an editor was a one man job. Little did he know about Clark's second job, one that even took precedence over this one. For just one second a thought ran through her head. Was Clark using his other self to escape some of this pressure? Nah, Clark wouldn't do that. He's too much of a boy scout. She scolded herself for even thinking that. She went into Clark's temporary office and shut the door to tune out the newsroom and began reading through her story. Clark on the other hand had his hands full, even for Superman. NEXT Actually, the problem at the airport looked worse than it was. Lots of smoke and flames, but very few injuries thanks to the quick thinking crew on board the airliner. Clark was gone for a couple of hours, and by the time he got back to the Daily Planet, Lois had put the paper to bed and was plotting how to do the same thing to her husband. He kind of crept into his temporary office, wondering if Lois would be put out with him for having been gone so long, but he needn't have worried. She'd been in that editor's chair before herself and knew what he'd been going through. "You'll do better tomorrow, Clark. The first day is always the hardest." "I hope so, Lois. I don't think I made a very good editor today." She stood up and came around the desk to give him a hug. "I remember Perry telling me some of what he'd faced when he was first made editor. He survived, I survived and so will you." "Thanks, honey. Guess I needed to hear that." "Any time, partner. How did it go at the airport?" "Okay. Pretty messy, but no serious injuries. Superman gave an exclusive to Scott." She grinned at him. "Superman wasn't playing favorites again,was he?" "Why not? He's a personal friend of the Editor-in-Chief." Lois gave him a kiss. "Guess that means you'll need to be here when Scott submits his copy. How about if I go home and get dinner started? You shouldn't have to be much longer." "I hope not. I'm looking forward to spending some quiet time with you." "They have your phone number," she reminded him. He groaned a bit, remembering how many times the phone had rung at home while Lois had been the Editor. "Maybe it won't be too bad, Clark. And besides," she added coyly as she made her exit from his office, " who says a night spent alone with me is going to be 'quiet?'" NEXT ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 15:15:37 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Tovie Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: 12/21/97 UPDATE - KATHY'S CHALLENGE Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/18/97 4:21:21 PM, you wrote: > 7. Lois: "Don't fall ON me, Farmboy." = ? > Becky : > *Mandi - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] > *Kathy - STRANGE BEDFELLOWS [Lori Gorschboth] > > 6. Lois' four food groups: "phone, fax, e-mail and delivered" = ? > Becky : > *Pam Jernigan - CULINARY DELIGHTS [?] Gee, look what happens when you don't have time to read your email for a couple days. After seeing so much email piled up in my box, I thought for one moment there I had fallen through a time loop and was back on LOISCLA list in pre-cancellation days. ;-) ;-) (nice feeling) (g) Yes, those are both the correct fanfics, and sorry I took so long to confirm. Becky tovie@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 21:50:09 +0000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Jenny Mills Subject: Re: Author's Rights (re: Truth or Dare) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Thanks Peace, I really appreciate your understanding Jenny At 15:11 18/12/97 PST, you wrote: >Jenny sniffled: >> While I *do* understand the copyright implications of this - it is really >> annoying for you guys to be enthusing over a Fic that I will *never be able >> to read > >/me offers Jenny a hanky, and then grabs a second one to cry along. I never got the stories either - PG or nfic. > >Would someone who is in contact with Gail let her know there are people sobbing to read her stories and beg her to distribute them again? We'll be good -- we promise!! > >Peace >::sniff, sniff:: > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Jenny Mills j.mills@netcom.co.uk jmills@ccta.gov.uk Lois: In one lousy second, I lost my partner and my best friend. He died without knowing. I never told him. - ToGoM Wells: Destiny has blessed you both with each other. No small gift indeed. There's many people who travel alone through, well, their whole lives and envy what you two have together . . . greatly. - Soul Mates ------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 17:20:36 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Debby Stark Subject: Announcement: story ready to read Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dawning 19 is on my site as of about 10am, Mountain Time, this Solstice Day, December 21, 1997. You can find it under Stories as Dawnin19.txt (a text version), Dawnin19.zip (text but PKZipped), and d19-doc.zip, which is PKZipped Word for Windows 6.0a, with the *words* in italics. Note: I forgot to center the ***'s and other things that should be centered in the italicized version, so you can do that; I tab them usually because in converting to txt, the center commands get lost but tabs don't. Also, for the txt version, I converted the story through WordPerfect 5.1 for Dos, so it really should be text and not Windows Write :) My site: ftp://ftp.swcp.com/pub/users/dstark It can also be acquired direct from me as email pieces. Debby Debby@swcp.com in foggy, 30-degree, breezy, 0.94 official inches of precip so far this month (at the airport), expecting more snow and a white Christmas... Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 20:08:37 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: Breezae Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Announcement: story ready to read Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit << Debby Debby@swcp.com in foggy, 30-degree, breezy, 0.94 official inches of precip so far this month (at the airport), expecting more snow and a white Christmas... Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA >> I didn't realize I was in New Mexico, anybody have a road map so I can find my way home before Thursday? :::dodges the rotten tomatoes::: Sorry for the bad joke, Breezy "I'm sprinting for the story" Walsh ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 21:11:11 EST Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman Fanfic" From: WBVL Mandi Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Re: Challenge 19--Kansas City Star Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit <<19. Since this fine review [of TOMORROW NEVER DIES] was written by the critic for the Kansas City Star, which fanfic featured Clark as editor of this paper = ?>> Groping blindly in the darkness for an answer here...is it "Meet Me in Kansas City"? ~Mandi~