From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8d)" To: "ARTF@MemoryAlpha.nil" File: "LOISCLA-GENERAL-L LOG9708" ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:47:48 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" test to the owner ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 14:30:48 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" test ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 14:33:27 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: test Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" test ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 14:31:48 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: Information follows Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" if you need help about list commands. Here is a great web page for LISTSERV commands: http://sckb.ucssc.indiana.edu/kb/data/afcp.html for those of you who have no access to this kind of web interface, send email to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU body text: GET LISTSERV REFCARD this will send you a long and detailed email of LISTSERV commands. One other thing about this list, please no nfanfic as there may be some persons under the age of 18 subscribed. This list is for general information like "LOISCLA is down, again." or if someone wants to post their fanfic, they can do it freely, and there is no moderator so anything can get posted (but it will not be edited). There will be a web archive in about a month that will contain any and all posts sent to this address. I will post the URL when the web page is updated. Happy writing! farah fchisham@indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:24:21 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: copy: Information follows Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I just thought I would send this again: if you need help about list commands. Here is a great web page for LISTSERV commands: http://sckb.ucssc.indiana.edu/kb/data/afcp.html for those of you who have no access to this kind of web interface, send email to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU body text: GET LISTSERV REFCARD this will send you a long and detailed email of LISTSERV commands. One other thing about this list, please no nfanfic as there may be some persons under the age of 18 subscribed. This list is for general information like "LOISCLA is down, again." or if someone wants to post their fanfic, they can do it freely, and there is no moderator so anything can get posted (but it will not be edited). There will be a web archive in about a month that will contain any and all posts sent to this address. I will post the URL when the web page is updated. Happy writing! farah fchisham@indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 18:38:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" FANFIC WANTED! Okay, you've probably all heard of THROUGH SUPER-COLORED GLASSES by now, the fanzine for devoted fans of LOIS & CLARK: THE NEW ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN. Well, TSCG wants YOUR FANFIC/FANPOEMS/FANSONGS (known as filks)! The lustier, the better, although this fanzine does NOT print vulgar language, such as c***, p****, f***....You get the idea. If you have read Meg Lawson's story, "THE FIRST NIGHT," that is EXACTLY what I'm looking for as far as limits on sexual content. Anything more....WEELL, I'll have to see. I've got a lot of great stuff already, but I'm going to need more for the following issues. Help me out, here, FoLCs! : ) Your fanfic can be about Jimmy, Lois & Clark, Mayson, Ching, Zara, Jimmy, Perry, the senior Kents, the Lanes...anyone from the show, or even invented villains! As The Young Rhino Skins, my writer's group that sponsors this publication, is incorporated, all contents of this fanzine will have legal protection from reproduction without permission, so nobody has to worry about unauthorized publication of their work if it's published in the zine. There will also be a disclaimer ON THE FRONT COVER stating that the zine is for those 18 years of age or older, and I will not sell to anyone younger without parental permission. (I plan to market the fanzine chiefly at three science fiction conventions I attend in Southern Michigan.) OH! I almost forgot the most important thing! This fanzine ALSO needs ARTWORK! The same applies: the lustier, the better! I am having a hard time finding someone who draws L&C stuff. I have drawn a picture of long-haired Lois looking mischievous. I'm ashamed of the way it turned out, but my friends are urging me to put it in the fanzine, so I'm going to. Also, my cover art is Clark's newer glasses with the House of El emblem in each lens (the "S"). I drew that, as well. So far that's all the artwork I've got. I would LOVE to find someone who can do Dean Cain justice. I know, that's a TALL order, but a person like that would be great to know. Published writers and artists will receive a FREE copy of the issue in which their work appears, of course. Please send all submissions to this e-mail address in TEXT ONLY FORMAT: jvladdisons@juno.com My mail file CAN'T TAKE messages that are LARGER THAN 54k, so if your submission is larger than that, please send it in pieces. THANKS, FoLCS! Carol A. Addison Editor p.s. If you would like constructive criticism of your work, I can do that, too. If you send it to me for submission, and I see potential but a need for polishing, I'll tell you. If you want to polish it, fine. If not, I'll be sorry, but it's your right to make that choice. I'M VERY EASY GOING AND VERY FLEXIBLE. SUBSCRIPTION INFORMATION: This is not available at this time. As I have yet to determine even how many pages I have to make up the first issue, production costs have not been assessed. It is therefore impossible for me to determine a subscription price until a later date. Thank you for your patience! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:37:17 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: from list owner! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think its great to publish a work of fanfic, but not nfanfic. I don't care what kind of words aren't or are published this is still NFANFIC. Anymore postings like this will get more than a warning. I am sorry, I don't mean to be harsh on this but I specifically asked for nothing to be posted about nfanfic or actual nfanfic stories posted. Thanks folcs! farah fchisham@indiana.edu >Okay, you've probably all heard of THROUGH SUPER-COLORED GLASSES by now, >the fanzine for devoted fans of LOIS & CLARK: THE NEW ADVENTURES OF >SUPERMAN. Well, TSCG wants YOUR FANFIC/FANPOEMS/FANSONGS (known as >filks)! The lustier, the better, although this fanzine does NOT print >vulgar language, such as c***, p****, f***....You get the idea. If you >have read Meg Lawson's story, "THE FIRST NIGHT," that is EXACTLY >what I'm looking for as far as limits on sexual content. Anything >more....WEELL, I'll have to see. >OH! I almost forgot the most important thing! This fanzine ALSO needs >ARTWORK! The same applies: the lustier, the better! I am having a hard >time finding someone who draws L&C stuff. I have drawn a picture of >long-haired Lois looking mischievous. I'm ashamed of the way it turned >out, but my friends are urging me to put it in the fanzine, so I'm going >to. Also, my cover art is Clark's newer glasses with the House of El >emblem in each lens (the "S"). I drew that, as well. So far that's all >the artwork I've got. I would LOVE to find someone who can do Dean Cain >justice. I know, that's a TALL order, but a person like that would be >great to know. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:11:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Gary Subject: Brainstorm MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Anyone interested in my fanfic *IDEAS*? They're Free! The Last Temptation of Superman - power corrupts; absolute power corrupts absolutely This is that multipart, in the background, storyline that we all wanted... Superman Junior - Lois and Clark's son/daughter comes home from college... This could have been a spin-off series. The Battle for Utopia - Utopian leader must get approval from the founders... This is a possible reunion movie... All you have to do is ask! And sincerely want to write it. I'd write them myself but these are huge ideas and I frankly have better things to do... ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:17:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: copy: Information follows In a message dated 97-08-12 15:25:21 EDT, fchisham@INDIANA.EDU writes: << One other thing about this list, please no nfanfic as there may be some persons under the age of 18 subscribed. This list is for general information like "LOISCLA is down, again." or if someone wants to post their fanfic, they can do it freely, and there is no moderator so anything can get posted (but it will not be edited). >> How about raunchy innuendo? ;) Zoom (okay, it was just a poor excuse to test this list ;) ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 21:08:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: from list owner! Dear Farah: I didn't SAY anything about Nfanfic! In fact, I purposefully REMOVED that part of the ad? What's the DEAL here??? : ( Very sad and hurt, Carol A. Addison On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:37:17 -0500 Farah Meitzen Chisham writes: >I think its great to publish a work of fanfic, but not nfanfic. I don't care >what kind of words aren't or are published this is still NFANFIC. > >Anymore postings like this will get more than a warning. >I am sorry, I don't mean to be harsh on this but I specifically asked >for nothing to be posted about nfanfic or actual nfanfic >stories posted. Thanks folcs! > >farah >fchisham@indiana.edu > >>Okay, you've probably all heard of THROUGH SUPER-COLORED GLASSES by >now, >>the fanzine for devoted fans of LOIS & CLARK: THE NEW ADVENTURES OF >>SUPERMAN. Well, TSCG wants YOUR FANFIC/FANPOEMS/FANSONGS (known as >>filks)! The lustier, the better, although this fanzine does NOT >print >>vulgar language, such as c***, p****, f***....You get the idea. If >you >>have read Meg Lawson's story, "THE FIRST NIGHT," that is EXACTLY >>what I'm looking for as far as limits on sexual content. Anything >>more....WEELL, I'll have to see. >>OH! I almost forgot the most important thing! This fanzine ALSO >needs >>ARTWORK! The same applies: the lustier, the better! I am having a >hard >>time finding someone who draws L&C stuff. I have drawn a picture of >>long-haired Lois looking mischievous. I'm ashamed of the way it >turned >>out, but my friends are urging me to put it in the fanzine, so I'm >going >>to. Also, my cover art is Clark's newer glasses with the House of El >>emblem in each lens (the "S"). I drew that, as well. So far that's >all >>the artwork I've got. I would LOVE to find someone who can do Dean >Cain >>justice. I know, that's a TALL order, but a person like that would >be >>great to know. > ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:53:18 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Someone's got to be first and I guess is might as well be me Hi Folcs, I've noticed that no one has posted an actual story to the fanfiction list so I guess I'll post the story that I just finished. It's called "Come Spy With Me" and it is a PG fanfic complete with an A plot. It's rather long (130K or so) so I'm breaking it up into segments. Please let me know what you think of it. Thank you, Eileen, Eraygun@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:21:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Frantz Subject: Re: Someone's got to be first and OK...I'm confused! Eileen said she was gonna be first.....and then no story followed! Do I have to request it or will it come of it's own accord?? I'm looking forward to it...... Kathy ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:37:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me ---Part 2 Entering the office they were surprised to find Jimmy sitting on the corner of Perry's desk, looking more than a little bewildered. "Lois, CK what are you doing here?" Jimmy asked. "We were about to ask you the same thing," Clark responded. "Did you get a 4:00 a.m. wake up call from the chief, too?" Lois added. Jimmy shook his head affirmatively and replied, "Yeah, it was weird. He told me to get my *butt* down to the Planet ASAP. No reason, no explanation. So here I am. Do you guys know what's going on?" Lois and Clark both shrugged. "We're as clueless as you are Jimmy," Clark answered. "You guys don't think something's wrong with the chief, do you ?" Jimmy asked with concern. "He's been working awfully hard to get "DP Online" up and running and then there were all those problems with Jerry and his divorce just became final. Maybe all the stress ....." "Now just calm down Jimmy," Lois said reassuringly. "I know Perry's been working hard lately, but I don't believe there's any reason to think that he's gone off the deep end. You know how the chief is when he smells a hot story, it's like he has tunnel vision, the story's the only thing he focuses on." "Gee, that sounds familiar." Clark said teasingly. Lois took a playful swipe at Clark and continued. "Perry's always had a *stealth mode*, Jimmy. I remember when I was an intern, and he had Norcross and Judd working on that big corruption scandal involving ex-Mayor Jurgens, you practically needed a security clearance just to get on the newsroom floor." Both Clark and Jimmy chuckled. "And despite the fact that Clark and I are partners, I can remember plenty of times when Perry kept one of us in the dark about a story the other was working on and I'm sure Clark can remember some as well. Right, sweetheart?" she asked Clark. "Sure, honey," Clark replied. "For example, there was my undercover assignment at the *Metropolis Star*." Seeing Jimmy's puzzled expression Clark attempted to prod his friend's recollection of the events of a few years before. "You remember ,Jimmy, that was the time I left the Planet and was working with Linda King." The mention of Lois's glamorous rival was enough to jog Jimmy's memory and he nodded affirmatively. Clark smiled and continued, "Why, Lois didn't know anything about that until...". "I'll say I didn't!" Lois interrupted, her eyes flashing. "I still can't believe you and Perry kept me in the dark about that. I was so up..." "So you see Jimmy," Clark hastily interjected, as he eyed Lois carefully, "Lois is right. I'm sure there's nothing to worry about and Perry has a perfectly good reason for treating this like a matter of *national security*." "Maybe, because it *is* one," a familiar voice said from behind them. Lois, Clark and Jimmy immediately spun around and there, standing in the doorway next to Perry, was Jimmy's father, Jack Olsen. "Dad!!?" Jimmy exclaimed as he leaped from his seat on Perry's desk. "Hi, Jimbo." Jack said as he reached over and gave his son a hug. "Gee, Dad," Jimmy responded with a trace of embarrassment, "you haven't called me that since I was seven." Jack gave Jimmy an apologetic smile and shook his head. "Has it really been that long, son? Seems like only yesterday. Well, Jimb...er Jim, how are things going? I'm sorry I didn't make it to Metropolis for the holidays, but things were *busy*." "That's okay, Dad, your work's important. I understand," Jimmy said a little sadly. Jack then turned to Lois and Clark. "It's good to see both of you again," he said affably. "I hear you're married now. I guess congratulations are in order." "Thanks," Clark said, giving Jack a slightly perplexed look as they shook hands. After a few moments of awkward silence, Perry took charge of the situation. "Well, now that the pleasantries are over, why don't we sit down and discuss why we're here instead of at home gettin' some well deserved beauty sleep," he said as he led the group out of his office and into the nearby conference room. _____________________________________ As they entered the conference room and began to take seats around the table Perry spoke: "I guess I'll just skip the preliminaries and cut to the chase," he announced. "Jack here called me last night with an interesting proposition that would involve the four of you working together..." "Working together? On what?" Lois interrupted. "I was just gettin' to that, darlin'," Perry responded with just a trace of exasperation in his voice. "Do you remember that story Clark did around Christmas time about the raid the Special Crimes Unit staged on one of Intergang's arsenals?" he asked. "Of course, chief, " Clark replied. "The SCU and Superman found enough weaponry in that warehouse to outfit a small army. And some of it was a *little* unusual." "I'll say it was," Lois responded from her perch on the side of Clark's chair. "There were some things that were so high tech they looked like they were taken from the set of the latest Star Trek movie! The SCU took some of the more bizarre stuff to Star Labs for an examination. According to Dr. Klein, Intergang had working models of weapons he'd only heard rumors about. They even had over a dozen of that new laser rifle the Army's been developing." she added. "We've been trying to do a follow up story about where Intergang might have gotten the stuff. But our investigation has been stymied," Clark continued. "There was a rumor on the street that the weapons came from either a military base or a secret government lab, but we've been unable to confirm it. It's like all our sources have dried up." Lois nodded in agreement. Turning to Jack he asked, "Is that what this is all about? Are you trying to find out the source of these weapons for the NIA?" "You're half right," Jack replied. "I am investigating this matter for the NIA, but I already know the source of the weapons. I even have a pretty good idea as to *how* they got to Metropolis. What I don't know is who is behind this." "What!" Lois, Clark and Jimmy exclaimed in chorus. "Well, would you mind sharing your information with us, or is it *top secret* ?" Lois asked pointedly . "I don't mind sharing," Jack said with a friendly smile. "In fact, that's *one* of the reasons I'm here. The items in question came from one of our secret weapons storehouses ....." "*Our* storehouse? You mean the NIA's? I didn't know the NIA had weapon storehouses," Jimmy interrupted. "That's not surprising son, they're supposed to be *secret*," Perry replied sharply. "I've heard rumors about secret NIA labs and weapons caches for years," he said looking directly at Jack. "They're funded out of the *black* part of your budget, aren't they? The part no one is supposed to know about except for a few folks in the White House and a couple members of the Congressional Intelligence committees." "That's right," Jack answered matter-of-factly. "Over the years the agency has spent hundreds of millions of dollars developing some *exceptional* items, and we've got a number of stockpiles in various locations around the world." Lois gave Clark a concerned glance then quickly turned back to Jack. "Gee, it's so nice to hear about our tax dollars at work," she said sardonically. "Are you saying that things are disappearing from these stockpiles and showing up on the streets of Metropolis!?" As Clark asked his question his concern about the implications of Jack's statements was mirrored in his face and voice. "Not just Metropolis," Jack responded. "There's evidence of NIA weapons in several other places over the last few months including Gotham City, London, Miami, Paris, Berlin, Cairo, even Moscow. I haven't checked the list in a few days but I would imagine that there are probably a few more problems on it by now." "I guess, we haven't heard anything about these other *problems*, for the same reason our investigation hit a dead end. The NIA's covering this up isn't it?" Lois asked Jack directly. "I'll admit that the NIA has pulled some strings to keep this hidden from the news media and even other law enforcement agencies," Jack replied. "But I didn't have anything to do with that. In fact that cover up is part of why I contacted Perry to see if we could team up." "What exactly do you mean by *team up*? " Clark asked warily. "Are you talking about sharing leads and other information on this story?" "Actually son, I think Jack and I had in mind something a bit more *structured* than that," Perry responded. "More like the four of you working together on an undercover mission to get to the bottom of whoever's selling these things." "What!?!" Clark exclaimed. "Chief, you must be joking!" "Way cool," Jimmy said as he flashed a huge excited grin to his father. "I've always wanted to see you in action, Dad." "Perry you can't be serious," Lois said incredulously. "Sharing information is one thing but this is out of the question! Clark and I spent most of last year investigating the NIA and based on what we've discovered I think that little problem with Trevalian was just the tip of the iceberg!" Clark nodded vigorously in agreement. "Why there's evidence of rampant corruption, including assassinations of political leaders and private citizens, bribery of public officials...!" "Lois honey," Perry interrupted, "I'm not discounting what you and Clark have uncovered, but we all know that covert overseas operations by our government can get *nasty*. It's a fact of life, unfortunately. Now, what information do you have about the NIA's actions here in the U.S.?" "I *am* talking about its operations here in the U.S.!" Lois sputtered. All eyes in the room turned to Jack, who simply shrugged. "See," Lois said as she pointed her finger accusingly at Jack, "even he admits it's a rogue agency! And you want us to work for the NIA. It just doesn't make sen....." "No, not *for* the NIA, " Jack interrupted, "*with me*. There's a difference, trust me." "No offense Jack, but how can we trust you?" Clark asked frankly. "You've been a loyal NIA agent for almost 20 years. You've lied, cheated and who knows what else for it. You were even willing....," Clark paused, turned to look at Jimmy and then spun back to confront Jack. "You were even willing to use your own son to get to us when you thought we were endangering it. And now suddenly, you want us to *trust* you and to believe that you've turned against it. Your story just isn't plausible." "I'm not here to apologize for my actions or those of the Agency," Jack said smoothly. "And you've got it wrong. I'm not asking you to believe that I've suddenly turned against the NIA because I *haven't*." "Then what the *devil* is this all about? " Lois asked testily, clearly exasperated by Jack's evasive answers. "It's simple" Jack replied. "I want to save the NIA and I need your help to do it." Lois, Clark and Jimmy stared at Jack in stunned silence. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:37:40 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me -- Part 3 "Well, that certainly got their full attention," Perry drawled. Jack nodded and continued. "As I said earlier, these weapons are from NIA stockpiles. The location of these stockpiles is a top secret even within the Agency itself, known only to the Director, the head of the Covert Operations section and a handful of others. The fact that weapons are coming from one or more of these secret locations can only mean one thing." "There's a high level traitor..." Clark began. "or traitors..." Lois added. "In the NIA!" they said simultaneously. "Exactly, " Jack answered, "and my job... " he continued. "This seems to be a recurring problem for your employer," Lois interjected sarcastically. "Why should *we* help you solve it?" "Now darlin', " Perry responded, "for what it's worth I had - hell, I*still have* some of the same misgivings about workin' with the NIA, as you and Clark. But I think we owe it to the man to hear him out. Go on Jack." "As you've already guessed, it's my job to ferret out the traitor. And it has to be done as quickly and quietly as possible before any more damage can be done to the Agency's interests...." Jack continued. "*The Agency's* interests!?" Clark interrupted. "What about the interest of the general public?! Aren't you and *the Agency* concerned about *it*?!" he asked incredulously, his voice rising in frustration. "Or the thousands of innocent people that may be in danger because of what's been happening, " he continued angrily. "*I'm* as concerned about what might happen to innocent people as you are!" Jack responded testily. "That's why I took this assignment. But I also believe that there are other interests at stake here that are equally important and that need to be protected. And one of those interests is the NIA's continued existence as a viable intelligence gathering organization. We're already reeling from deep budget cuts, and a new scandal so soon after the Trevalian incident could mean our finish unless it's properly handled. " "Considering some of the things the NIA has done both here and abroad, maybe that would be a good thing," Lois stated frankly as Clark nodded in agreement. "I can understand why both you and Clark might feel that way, Lois," Jack replied. "But whatever the Agency may have done in the past it still played a fundamental role in winning the cold war." "Yes, but..." Lois began. "And remember," Jack interrupted, "since the world is *still* a dangerous place, the Agency continues to serve a useful purpose fighting drug smugglers, international terrorists and assassins. We may be rancid butter, Lois, but at least we're on your side of the bread." "I'm not so sure about that," Lois replied as she eyed Jack skeptically. "What do you mean that this problem needs to be *properly handled*? Are you expecting us to assist you in another cover-up?" she asked suspiciously. "Hardly," Jack replied. "I think I'm familiar enough with both you and the Planet to know that wouldn't be possible even if that's what I wanted." "Yeah right," Lois said as she rolled her eyes. "Look," Jack said as he rose from the table and began to pace around the room. "when I say that the matter needs to be properly handled I mean the Agency has to show that it has developed effective mechanisms to detect and deal with problems like this. It's the only way to gain back *some* of our reputation." Turning to look out the conference room window at the pre dawn city skyline he continued, "Quite frankly we'd gotten sloppy over the years and were just plain lucky in the Trevalian incident. If the Planet and Superman hadn't been involved there's no telling how far that megalomaniac might have gotten." "But, if salvaging the Agency's reputation is your objective, wouldn't it make more sense to team up with other NIA agents? You know, keep this matter in-house?" Clark asked. Still gazing out the window, Jack responded, "Someone was assigned to work with me, an old friend, but he's *not available* now. I think you knew him...his name was Pete Rawlins." Clark nodded slowly as he remembered the NIA agent who had recently been killed by Deathstroke. "I'm ...I'm sorry..really sorry about what happened to him," Clark said hesitantly, his voice filled with remorse. "I didn't know he was a friend of yours..he was a good guy." "Yes, he was," Jack agreed. "I worked with him on a number of cases." He paused for a few seconds and then continued, "Pete was someone I could trust, that's rare in this business." After a few more moments of silence Jack returned to his seat at the conference table and began speaking again. "As far as a replacement is concerned, the number of field agents has been greatly reduced thanks to the cutbacks. But even if there was someone available, I'd be hesitant to use him or her." "Because you couldn't be sure that they weren't part of the conspiracy," Clark added. Jack nodded in agreement. "Well, you've explained why you may need help from outside the Agency, but you still haven't explained why we should be the ones to help you," Lois countered. "Why should we *want* to work with you? Why can't we just take the information you've given us and strike out on our own to uncover the truth?" "You could do that," Jack replied, "but I don't think it would be wise." Ignoring the skeptical looks from around the room he continued. "Striking out on your own would take time - weeks, maybe even months. That could be dangerous for a lot of innocent people... including Superman." "Superman!?!" Lois and Clark said in chorus. Lois's grip on Clark's arm tightened. Leaning across the table she stared directly at Jack and asked anxiously, "What does *he* have to do with this?" "As I said before, the Agency has developed some *exceptional* weapons," Jack responded, his voice taking on a darker tone. "Many of them were created with Superman in mind and are quite capable of harming, maybe even *destroying* him. And if those weapons fell into the wrong hands..." Jack's voice trailed off as he looked at Lois and Clark. For a few moments an ominous silence hung over the conference room, then Perry turned to Jimmy and said: "Well, son, you've been pretty quiet during all this. Don't you have anything to say?" Jimmy looked up from the conference table, glanced around the room nervously and then responded, "Gee chief, I guess I do have one or two questions." "Well spit'em out, son, we don't have all day," Perry said gruffly. Turning to face his father, Jimmy asked, "Well, ... this may be a dumb question since you sort of answered it before but it's just not clear to me...." Jimmy began hesitantly as Jack gave him a puzzled look. "I'd like to know why *us*? We're not spies. We're reporters, whistleblowers, er.. at least Lois and Clark are. As much as I think it would be exciting to work with you, I just don't see it." Jack gave Jimmy a warm smile. "Don't sell yourself short, Jim. I'll admit you're inexperienced, but there are more significant factors that make the three of you perfectly suited for this mission." "Like what?" Jimmy asked. "Well, primarily the fact I've worked with you before and I know from first hand experience that you're honest, intelligent and resourceful," Jack responded sincerely. "But if that's not enough," Jack said as he turned away from Jimmy and looked directly at Clark, "Clark has certain *talents* that may be particularly useful on this job." "What do you mean, Jack? What talents are you talking about?" Clark asked nervously, as both he and Lois began to fidget in their shared chair. Apparently ignoring Clark's questions, Jack continued, "I've traced the weapons that were found in Metropolis, Miami and London to one of the Agency's South American stockpiles, in Corto Maltese to be exact. I believe you're *very* familiar with that country, right Clark?" Jack asked pointedly. "I did *a little* traveling there when I was in college," Clark said cautiously. "More than just a little," Jack replied. "You spent two consecutive summers there while in college. You were part of Prof. Henry Ravenwood's archeological expedition which mapped and explored the Malynka ruins. So I'd say you know the region pretty well." Clark nodded slowly in agreement. "You're also fluent in Spanish and in the Malynkan Indian dialect, along with a dozen or *more* other languages, including French, Italian, German, Russian, Chinese, *both* the Mandarin and Cantonese dialects, Japanese, Swahili, and Hindu. That kind of linguistic talent is rare and it could come in handy on this trip," Jack said smugly. "How did you find out all this information about me?" Clark asked as he carefully eyed Jack. "I have my sources," Jack said cryptically, as he gave both Lois and Clark an enigmatic smile. "Wow, CK!" Jimmy said with admiration. "That is so *cool*." "Great shades of Elvis, son, is what Jack's saying true?" Perry asked. "Well.. chief..," Clark stammered, "I...I had a lot of time on my hands.. when I was traveling. ....It just seemed to make sense to try to learn the languages of some of the places I was visiting. You know,.. pick up a few key phrases. I'm not really all that fluent." "I think you're being far *too modest*, Clark," Jack responded. "And I think you're being far *too mysterious*!" Lois interrupted impatiently. Seizing the opportunity to divert attention from Clark, she sprang up from the side of their chair and walked over to confront Jack directly. "You came here looking for our help. Well, now you've got it!" she snapped. "So don't you think it's time you cut to the chase and told us the details of your plan and how we're supposed to work together?!" "Now, darlin'," Perry said soothingly, "there's no need to bite the man's head off." "That's all right, Perry," Jack said agreeably as he gave Lois a knowing smile. "Lois is right, we are wasting time. Let's get to work....team." ___________________________________ Later that day at Lois's and Clark's townhouse: "Oh good, *there* it is," Lois mumbled to herself as she pulled the large, battered, brown suitcase from a back shelf in the upstairs hall closet. "I thought I'd never find it!" After brushing the dust off the bag, Lois lovingly traced the gold initials "C.K." on its front and carried it into the bedroom. She then placed it on the bed next to her openbag and began to fill it with Clark's clothes. Suddenly the room was filled with a familiar *swooshing* sound as Clark entered at superspeed through the open window. Landing on the far side of the room Clark blew the window shut and after spinning into a tee shirt and jeans came up behind Lois, wrapped his arms around her and began nuzzling her neck. "Hmmmmm," Lois murmured appreciatively. Rotating in Clark's arms so that she could face him Lois pulled Clark closer so she could kiss him deeply, her body tingling everywhere they touched. "Welcome back, sweetheart," she said breathlessly as the kiss ended. "I've missed you. You've been gone over an hour. Did another emergency crop up besides that overturned tractor trailer on the freeway?" "Actually, honey," Clark responded, "I stopped off at Police Headquarters for a meeting with Bill Henderson and Maggie Sawyer." Sensing a possible story, Lois began to pepper Clark with questions. "Why? Is something the matter? Is there a new supervillain on the scene threatening the safety of Metropolis?" she asked hurriedly. "Honey, that's not ...." Not waiting for Clark to finish his sentence, Lois continued. "That's it, isn't it? Darn it! Why does this kind of thing always happen to me? I mean us! We hunt around for weeks for a good story and now two of them fall in our laps at the same time! It's just not .... " Clark interrupted Lois's babbling with a kiss. "Calm down, darling, there's no story in this," Clark said. "I decided to see Bill and Maggie to let them know some of the details from our meeting with Jack. They've got as much of a stake in getting these NIA weapons off the street as we do." "Oh," Lois replied, as she gave Clark a small sheepish smile, "I guess I got a *little* carried away. But it was an honest mistake." "Of course honey, it was a perfectly natural response," Clark said teasingly as he returned Lois's smile with his own wry grin. Clark's face fell a little as he looked around their bedroom. "Wow, Lois, do you think we'll need to take this much stuff?" he asked. "Do you really think I'm packing too much?" Lois responded, as she stepped out of Clark's embrace and walked over to one of the stacks of clothing on the bed. "I tried to limit it to just the essentials. But you never know what we might need on this trip, and we don't even know long we might be gone," she explained. "I guess you're right, honey." Clark said as he shrugged and sat down in a nearby chair, while Lois resumed packing. "I still don't like the idea of working with the NIA," Lois continued matter-of-factly, "But at least this trip will give me a chance to wear some things I didn't use on our honeymoon." Picking up a skimpy white lace teddie, she held it up in front of her and stood before Clark. "Do you like it?" she asked coyly. "Oh, it's very nice, hon," Clark said somewhat distractedly as he gave Lois a small smile. Lois tossed the teddie into her bag and walked back over to Clark. "All right, sweetie, spill it," she said pointedly as she sat on the side of Clark's chair and draped her arm over his shoulders. "What are you obsessing about this time?" Clark sighed and shook his head. "Gee honey, have you added mind reading to your list of talents or am I that transparent?" Snuggling into Clark's lap, Lois pulled him closer until their foreheads touched. "Well it's pretty obvious that something is bothering you. You generally pay more attention when I'm modeling my lingerie!" Clark laughed. "Okay, honey," he responded, "if you must know, I'm really worried about some of the things Jack said in our meeting this morning." "I can't blame you, darling," Lois said with concern. "I'm worried too and *angry*! I can't believe that *our* government had an organized program to develop weapons to destroy you! I've always suspected that there might be some kind of renegade anti-Superman operation like Bureau 39 still in existence, particularly after I saw that quantum disrupter/disbander *thingee* Lex and Ethan and Eric Press used against you. But this is different, the NIA isn't run by a bunch of kooks like Trask. It takes its directions from the highest levels of our government! The fact that it wants to harm you after all the good you've done just makes my blood boil!" "Lois, honey, I understand how you feel," Clark responded, "but that's not what I'm worried about." "It's not?!" Lois asked incredulously. "No it's not," Clark replied. "Lois, I don't like the fact that these weapons were developed, but I can understand why they were. When I first appeared on the scene, despite my friendly actions I was an unknown quantity. The government couldn't be certain what my real intentions were and it had to do something in case I wasn't as benevolent as I appeared to be. Developing defensive weapons was the logical thing to do." "Logical, hmm? I think you've been watching too many Star Trek reruns," Lois replied as she shook her head and gave Clark a wry grin. "Well, then, what *is* bothering you?" she asked. "I'm much more worried about how much Jack knew about *me*, about my background," Clark said seriously. "Honey, I tried to keep a very low profile before I came to Metropolis. When I was traveling all over the world I made a point of not attracting attention to myself and avoiding the spotlight...." "So that no one would suspect how different you were," Lois interjected. Clark nodded in agreement. "But the fact that Jack knows so much about your past means that..." she began. "Means that someone has been observing me for a long time," Clark finished. "And I don't know who they are, why they're doing it, and what else they may know about me." "Do you think this *someone* knows or suspects you're Superman?" Lois asked anxiously. "I honestly don't know, honey," Clark answered. "Jack may suspect something is up based on our reactions to him this morning. But I doubt he knows any thing specific about *you know who*. I do know that I'll have to be extra careful around him on this assignment while I try to figure out exactly what he does know and who his sources are." "You mean while *we* try to figure out his sources and what he knows. We're a team, remember, Lane *and* Kent," Lois playfully admonished. "Yes, ma'am, I remember. I also remember that you like to be on *top*," Clark said matching her playful tone as he pulled her closer to him and began to pepper her face with soft gentle kisses. Lois sighed contentedly. "You know I've been thinking," she whispered. "We have almost five hours before we have to meet Jack and Jimmy at the airport. This would be a wonderful opportunity for a little *down payment* on that quality time you promised me." Clark gave Lois a wide grin. "I like the way you think Ms. Lane." "Why thank you, Mr. Kent." Lois said as she tangled her fingers in Clark's hair and pulled him close for a long, slow, deep kiss. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:37:47 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me-- Part 7 Lois and Clark returned to camp hours later. Their return was as undetected as their absence and they were able to slip back into their respective tents for a few hours sleep before dawn. As expected, the next morning Jack had everyone up at first light. Leaving Eduardo behind to guard the camp, the rest of the team hiked to the actual site of the ruins and began their examination. An hour or so into the process, Jack was able to sneak away from the others. Not long after this disappearance, Jack returned to the clearing and quickly walked over the to area where Lois, Clark and Jimmy were working. "You must have found what you were looking for." Clark said quietly to Jack as he looked up from a large tablet of Malynkan hieroglyphics. Jack nodded affirmatively. He quickly surveyed the area then turned back to Clark and asked, "Where are Sandoval and Jose?" "They went to the smaller site we found nearby. They should be back in about an hour," Clark replied. "Good that gives us some time," Jack responded. "I need you to come with me right now." "Great," Lois interjected as she stood up and brushed dirt from her hands. "I was getting tired of looking at stone tablets and broken pottery." "Not you Lois, just Clark and Jim," Jack said brusquely. "What?!" Clark and Jimmy said in unison. "Now wait just a damn minute Jack," Lois hissed. "I thought I was a part of this team!" "You are, but...." Jack began. "Then *why* isn't she coming with us?" Clark asked. "Because she has an important job to do right here." Jack replied. "What kind of job?" Lois asked suspiciously. "We can't let the others know about the storehouse, it's *top secret*. Even if Sandoval and Jose are gone, Ortega's still here and I'm sure he's already suspicious enough because of my initial disappearance," Jack said as he watched Ortega observing them from across the site. "We can't all leave at the same time, someone has got to distract him." "And that's my job?!" Lois asked incredulously. "Why do I have to be the one to distract him?! Why not Jimmy or Clark?" "Simple, they're not his *type*," Jack responded. "What the *hell* do you mean by that, Jack!?" Clark interjected, his voice rising in anger. "Lower you voice for god's sake!" Jack said in hushed tones. "I'm not asking her to do anything improper. It's just very clear that Ortega is attracted to Lois and I want her to use that attraction to our advantage." Turning to directly face Lois, Jack continued. "All you have to do is smile, chat about the weather or the ruins---whatever!. Just keep him occupied and out of our hair while we do a preliminary examination." Both Lois and Clark gave Jack skeptical frowns. "If there was any other way to do this, I'd use it but there just isn't. I *need* you to do this Lois," Jack pleaded. Lois gave Clark a questioning look. Clark shrugged in response. Lois nodded and then turned back to face Jack. "All right, I'll do it. But it will *cost* you.," she replied pointedly. "In addition to this story, the Planet gets an *exclusive* interview with the NIA's Director of Covert Operations as a part of our series." "What?!" Jack replied. "No one has *ever* interviewed the DCO in the entire history of the Agency!" "You heard me," Lois answered sharply. "I only do this if you use your influence to get us that interview." "You drive a hard bargain, but it's a deal," Jack responded begrudgingly. "Good," Lois replied as she began to make her way to the far side if the clearing where Ortega was working. Then suddenly she spun back around to face Jack. "By the way, I hope you're not thinking of double crossing us on this interview later. You really wouldn't want to get either Clark or *me* angry. It wouldn't be *pretty*." The underlying menace in Lois's voice contrasted with the sweet smile on her face. "Don't worry Lois, I'll keep my word, a deal's a deal," Jack responded. "It had better be," Clark said sharply. Lois nodded in agreement and then headed off in Ortega's direction. As she neared his work area she called out, "Oh Roberto!" in a sweet voice. "Yes, Rebecca!?" Ortega responded eagerly. "Whatever are you working on? It looks... just fascinating?!" Lois said as she sauntered up to Ortega and leaned in close to him. Ortega smiled broadly, and began to show Lois around the section of the site he had been examining. Jack smiled wolfishly. "Let's go, it looks like she's got things under control here." "All right. But Roberto had better keep his hands to himself," Clark seethed. "There's nothing to worry about, Clark. I may not have worked with her for long but it's pretty clear to me Lois can take care of herself. That's *some* wife you have," Jack said admiringly. "I know she can take care of herself. But that doesn't mean I don't worry about her," Clark responded. "And she's more than just my *wife*, she's my partner and my best friend," he added pointedly. "Yes she is, isn't she?" Jack acknowledged. "You're a lucky man. Sometimes I wish..." Jack was silent for a few moments, then continued, "but never mind, we'd better hurry before the others get back." ___________________________________________ With Lois providing the necessary diversion, Jack, Clark and Jimmy slipped away from the worksite. They made their way through the dense rainforest until they reached the foothills of the mountains. Once there, they followed a dirt path that led to the entrance of a large cave. "This is it," Jack said as he led Clark and Jimmy inside. "Gee Dad," Jimmy said with a trace of disappointment, "I thought the storehouse would be more impressive. You know really high tech." Clark secretly scanned the area with his X-ray vision. Discovering that he was unable to see through any of the cave's walls, he quickly activated his superhearing and was able to detect a muffled mechanical hum, emanating from behind the rocks. "I don't know, Jim," Clark said warily "I think there's a lot more here than meets the eye." Jack nodded in agreement, and passed his hand over a small rock that was protruding from one of the walls. Suddenly a small section of the wall sprang open and a panel appeared. Jack approached the panel and punched in a long series of numbers and letters. As he completed the last of his entries, a large section of the rock wall about 50 feet ahead of them began to shimmer until it transformed into a futuristic looking doorway. "Oh man this is flat out amazing, Dad!" Jimmy said excitedly as a broad grin split his face. "It is pretty spectacular, isn't it, son?" Jack replied warmly, his face wearing an identical grin. "You'll never guess how it was done! These rock walls aren't real at all it's a..." "Hologram!" Clark interjected, in a voice tinged with awe. "This cave is entirely manmade out of some leadbased alloy and it uses a hologram to simulate a natural interior! But I've never seen one of such high quality on this kind of scale before!" Both Jimmy and Jack turned back and looked at Clark. "That's exactly right!?" Jack replied in amazement. "Look, I can understand how you *might* figure out that this cave is a holographic display, but how the devil could you know that these walls are made with a titanium steel/lead alloy?!" he asked incredulously. "It was just a *lucky* guess," Clark replied quickly. "I figured that if the NIA stored weapons here to use against Superman the walls would be made of or contain lead so that he couldn't find it." "Smooth deductive reasoning, CK," Jimmy said admiringly. "Yes, it was a very good guess," Jack said as he eyed Clark suspiciously. "I'd be very interested in hearing any other *guesses* you might have, particularly about this situation and who could be responsible for it." "Sure thing Jack," Clark replied. "But don't you think it would be better if we finished our investigation of the storehouse first. I mean, we're kind of on the clock here. If we don't get back soon, Sandoval or Ortega might get curious and come looking for us." Jack nodded affirmatively and turned back to the doorway. As he neared the entrance, the door slid open automatically and the lights came on. "It will be interesting to see how much they've actually removed from here," he said to Clark and Jimmy. "According to the latest inventory this place was pretty well-stocked." "Well-stocked is not quite the description I'd use for this place now," Clark commented as he stepped through the doorway and quickly surveyed the area. "Wow, Dad, this place has been..." Jimmy started. "Picked clean!!" Jack interrupted, his voice rising in a combination of frustration and amazement. "Everything is gone! There were several hundred weapons here. Someone must have used a small army to do it." "And it must have happened just recently," Clark added. "What makes you say that, CK?" Jimmy asked. "Look at the floor, Jimmy," Clark said as he pointed downward. "It's covered with muddy footprints?!" Jimmy responded. "But so what? There's dirt outside and it rains a lot in the jungle." "True, but this is *fresh* mud!" Jack interjected as Clark nodded in agreement. "It's barely dried, that means it must have been tracked in here within the last 4 to 6 hours." "That also means that the people responsible for raiding this storehouse might still be in the area! Lois and the others could be in danger!" Clark said with alarm. "We'd better get back to camp now!" Clark quickly turned and headed out the doorway towards the mouth of the cave, trying to run at something akin to the speed of a normal human, with Jack and Jimmy in close pursuit. As they reached the cave's entrance a bullet whizzed past Clark's head and ricocheted off the far wall, stopping them in their tracks. "What the --!?!" Clark exclaimed. "You in the cave," a strange male voice shouted in unaccented English. "Toss out your weapons and come out slowly, with your hands up!" "Looks like we've got company," Jack said coolly as he reached into his backpack and pulled out a 9 millimeter semi-automatic pistol. "Clark, you and Jim go back to the storeroom. I think there might be a back way out of this cave in there. If not you can hide there until this is *over*. "Jack, you aren't thinking of trying hold them off alone, are you?!" Clark asked with alarm. "I'm damn well going to try," Jack replied grimly. "It may be the only chance you two have." "Dad you can't, I won't let you..." Jimmy began. "Look, this sacrifice isn't necessary!" Clark interrupted. "There's a better way to do this. *Trust* me." "Oh really," Jack replied skeptically. "What do you suggest?" Clark hesitated for a few moments, then he sighed heavily, placed his hand on the side of his glasses, and said, "Jack, you don't have to do this because I...." Just then the voice from outside interrupted. "All right, I guess you need a little incentive to get moving!" he said angrily. "If you're not out here in two minutes, things are going to get pretty *nasty* for your friends." Clark, Jimmy and Jack exchanged looks of concern. "You two stay back," Clark announced. "I'll take a look to see if I can find out what's going on out there." Since the lead based alloy in the walls hampered his vision powers, Clark crouched down so he could look out the cave entrance undetected. As he peered outside, he was able to see at least 25 men armed with automatic weapons clustered around the cave. While most of the men had their weapons aimed at the cave, five or six of them had their weapons pointed directly at five figures sitting cross legged on the ground with their hands on their heads in a clearing not far from the mouth of the cave. "There are about 25 of them, armed to the teeth and they've got *Lois* and the others," Clark called back to Jack and Jimmy. Clark's voice was tight and he could barely contain his anger and frustration. Jack acknowledged Clark's statements with a curt nod and walking to the cave's entrance he called out, "All right, you win. Hold your fire, we're coming out." Then Jack tossed his gun outside, placed his hands on his head and stepped out of the cave with Clark and Jimmy following close behind. "It's about time you got your sorry butts out here!" said a short and stocky blonde man as they exited from the cave. Clearly the leader of the gang, he scowled as his men searched Clark, Jack and Jimmy. "Hurry up we don't have all day!" he continued. "The *boss* is waiting!" Then, smiling evilly he leveled his weapon at the trio. "You're real lucky that he wants to talk to you. If it was up to me, I'd finish all of you off *right now*," he quipped. Then he turned and walked away, joining a smaller group of men inside the cave. Jack, Clark and Jimmy were led away by their captors to the small clearing where the others were being held. Lois visibly brightened when she saw Clark. "Boy am I glad to see you," she whispered as he sat down on the ground next to her. Clark nodded as he gave her a small smile. "What happened, honey?" he asked in hushed tones. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:38:18 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me---Part 4 During the long and uneventful flight to Corto Maltese, Lois, Clark and Jimmy spent time familiarizing themselves with their cover story and the new identities Jack had prepared for them. The plane finally landed in San Tropez, Corto Maltese's lush and tropical capital city, and following an equally uneventful experience at airport customs, the group made its way to the Hotel Arguila in San Tropez's central district. Lois, Clark, Jimmy, and Jack had just finished registering at the front desk and were heading towards the elevators when they were approached by two men whose subdued dress and demeanor were in stark contrast to the bright colors and garish decor of the hotel lobby: "Senor Jack Olsen of Olsen's Civil Engineering?" the older of the two gentlemen inquired as he carefully scrutinized each member of the group. "Yes?" Jack replied. "Bueno. I'm so pleased you have arrived safely," the older man said as a friendly smile crept over distinguished features. "I am Manuel Sandoval, Deputy Minister for Public Works and this..." Sandoval said as he turned and gestured at the younger man standing behind him, "is my assistant, Roberto Ortega. We've been waiting for you." Jack eyed both men carefully as he shook first Sandoval's then Ortega's outstretched hands. "It's a pleasure to meet you, Minister Sandoval, but I must admit I'm a little surprised to see you here. It's rather late and I wasn't anticipating meeting with any members of your government until Monday morning. Is there a problem of some kind?" "No, no, nothing of the sort," Sandoval said affably. "I apologize for our unexpected presence here at the hotel. I realize that you and your associates must be tired after your long trip. But you must forgive an old man's impatience. Your arrival in Corto Maltese means the culmination of one of my long held dreams..." "You must mean the Cordova Valley Dam project," Clark interjected. "Quite correct, young man," Sandoval replied. "And you are..?" "Now it's my turn to apologize to you and Mr. Ortega," Jack said before Clark could utter another sound. "I've been remiss in my introductions. This is my son Jim." Jack placed his hand on Jimmy's shoulder. "And allow me to introduce David Guthrie, my surveyor," he said as he pointed to Clark, "and this is Rebecca Carr, who is ..." But before Jack could complete his introduction of Lois, Ortega interrupted. "Encantado, Senorita Carr, but surely you do not expect us to believe that a *woman*, particularly one as lovely as yourself is a civil engineer!?" Lois gave Ortega an artificially sweet smile. "Why thank you for the compliments, Senor Ortega. You're quite correct. I'm *not* a civil engineer." "I knew it!" Ortega said smugly, as he reached for Lois's hand and kissed it. "I'm a demolitions expert," Lois replied matter-of-factly, as she maintained the same sweet expression on her face. "One of the best," Clark added. His expression was bland but his eyes danced with laughter as he peered over his sunglasses and met Lois's gaze. Lois, her own eyes twinkling with barely controlled amusement, raised an eyebrow before turning her attention back to Ortega, who was clearly taken aback by Lois's revelation. "Oh..oh.. really," Ortega stammered in response to Clark's statement, as he quickly dropped Lois's hand and eyed her nervously. "How... *interesting.*" After successfully suppressing his own amused grin Sandoval turned back to Jack and the others. "Well," he said, "now that the introductions are complete, perhaps we can get down to business. As you've gathered, Senor Olsen, I would like to meet with you and your colleagues to discuss the Cordova Dam Project as soon as possible. If you're available tonight I'm sure I could arrange to have one of the hotel's conference rooms set aside for our use." Lois spoke up almost immediately. "I think that's a wonderful idea, Jack," she interjected. "Why don't you and Jimmy begin laying the ground work for the meeting with Minister Sandoval and Senor Ortega, while *Dave* and I take the luggage and the equipment up to the rooms. It shouldn't take very long, then we can join you back here in the lobby." "An excellent idea, Senorita Carr," Sandoval replied. "That should minimize any delay and we will be able to get right to work. Don't you agree, Senor Olsen?" Jack looked at Lois suspiciously. "I agree that it would save us some time, Minister Sandoval, but it would be *too* much trouble for *Becky* and *Dave*. I wouldn't feel right about it." "Oh, it's no trouble at all, Jack. Right, *Dave*?" Lois replied hurriedly. Catching Clark's eye, she silently urged him to follow her lead. "Right,...*Becky*." Clark added as he gave Lois a slightly perplexed look. "There's nothing to worry about Jack. We'll take care of everything." "That's what I'm afraid of," Jack mumbled. "Did you say something, Senor Olsen?" Ortega asked. "No, no, nothing at all, " Jack responded hurriedly. Resigned to the fact that he had been successfully outmaneuvered, he turned to Lois and Clark and said, "I guess we'll see you two in a few minutes, " then he and Jimmy accompanied Sandoval and Ortega to the hotel manager's office. As soon as the others had left, Clark turned to Lois. "All right, honey, what the devil was that all about?" he said giving her a look of bewilderment. "Shsssh, lower your voice, you never know who might be listening!" Lois whispered as she cast suspicious glances at the handful of people wandering through the hotel lobby. "What?!" Clark replied. "Never mind," Lois continued in hushed tones as she gave Clark a mischievous smile. "I'll explain upstairs. For now just play along." After looking around the lobby again Lois turned back to Clark and loudly announced, "Well, *Dave* ,since you've got so much stuff you should take the luggage cart." And grabbing her bags from the bell captain she sprinted for the closest elevator. Just before the door closed Lois shouted across to Clark "By the way, *Dave*, I need to talk to you about an equipment problem, so stop by my room as soon as you've put the rest of the gear away." Clark stared after Lois for a few seconds, then he shrugged and turned back to the bell captain. "--You heard the lady--," Clark said Spanish. "--Let's go.--" The bell captain nodded in agreement and he and Clark headed into the waiting elevator car. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:38:50 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me-- Part 10 The boats traveled for over an hour, until they came to large wooden pier jutting out into the river. As the first boat docked, Lois and Clark observed that most of its occupants, including Jamie, appeared to be pale and sweating. Lois took great pleasure in seeing that the last to leave the boat was Mike, who staggered onto the pier and made his way to a clearing not far from the riverbank. Once there Mike fell to his knees and proceeded to *kiss* the ground not once, but several times. "Gee," Jimmy said as he observed the events occurring on shore. "I wonder what's wrong with them. The water wasn't that choppy." "I don't know Jim." Clark replied with a hint of a smile. "They must have run into some *unexpected* turbulence." Jimmy shrugged and then turned back to help Clark carry Jack out of the boat. As soon as Jack was out, the others quickly followed, until they were all standing on the dock. Lois approached Jamie who was sitting on a nearby wooden piling. "Gee you don't look so good," she said matter-of-factly. "Did you have a rough ride? Maybe we have something in our medical kit that could help you." "Shut up and get back in line!" Jamie snarled in response. Lois's eye's widened in feigned innocence as she returned to Clark and the others. "There's no need to be nasty," she replied, "I was just trying to be helpful." Clark took Lois aside. "That was very cruel of you, honey," he playfully admonished. Pleased that Clark had relaxed enough about their current situation to be able to tease her, Lois smiled inwardly. "*I'm cruel*?" she countered in a voice barely above a whisper. "Now wait just one minute, you started this! And besides, I know you're not above making bad guys *squirm* a little." "What are you talking about honey?!" Clark replied as he gave her a puzzled look. "Don't try that *innocent* farmboy routine on me," Lois said with artificial sterness. "Not too long ago you confessed that you felt some *satisfaction* that time you *zapped* Lex with your heat vision, *remember*?" Clark flushed with embarrassment "But honey, I wasn't trying to hurt Luthor on purpose," he protested. "Uh-huh," Lois answered as she folded her arms across her chest. "Honest honey, I *had* to do it to stop his bleeding!" Clark asserted. "Face it, Clark, despite your reputation as a *goody two-shoes* you've got something of a vindictive streak," Lois teased. "But..but.." Clark stammered. "And I absolutely *love* it." Lois added with a sly smile and a wicked gleam in her eye. __________________________________ When the third boat finally docked, the group reassembled and began to make its way up a long path leading from the riverbank. Still weakened by his ordeal on the river, Jamie's pace was slower and the group made several stops along the way in order to rest. Finally, the dirt path they were walking on became a gravel road and they saw in the distance, a large white mansion. Surrounded by neatly trimmed lawns that were in stark contrast to the wild jungle growth, the mansion almost gleamed in the intense sunlight. "Well, that's certainly impressive," Lois commented to the group as she spied the house through the lush vegetation. "Whoever the *boss* is he certainly likes to live in the lap of luxury!" Clark nodded in agreement. "I'll say. That house is *huge*, it must have cost a fortune just to bring the materials to construct it to an area this remote. Not to mention the cost of the labor." "I doubt that cost posed any problem for its owner! I *know* he has ample resources available to him!" Sandoval said with disgust. "That is Quinada Plantation's main house!" "That is impossible! You must be mistaken!" Ortega interjected. "There is no mistake!" Sandoval responded. "I would know that house anywhere!" "Quinada Plantation! Isn't that Preston Trager's home?" Lois asked. Sandoval nodded affirmatively. "Yes it is," he replied. "And it would appear he is the one we have to *thank* for our current situation!" _________________________________ The group divided once it reached the main house and Jamie and Mike along with about ten of the gang members herded Lois, Clark and the others inside while the remainder of the men sat outside on the large verandah baking in the tropical heat. As the group entered the foyer of the house, Jamie separated from them and hurriedly ran down a long hall to a double doorway. Lois and Clark watched as Jamie opened the doors and quickly slipped inside the room leaving the group to wait in the entry way. The air conditioned interior of the house initially offered a welcome respite from the steamy jungle, but after a few of minutes of waiting, Lois, who was wearing shorts and a short sleeved tee shirt, began to shiver slightly. "Are you okay honey?" Clark asked with concern. "I'm freezing!" Lois whispered. "It must be at least 40 degrees cooler in here! I've got goosebumps!" "I'm sorry, darling." Clark replied in a low voice. "There's not much I can do about it right now. But I promise to help you warm up later!" Lois gave Clark a small smile and raised one eyebrow. "Really?!" she responded. "You promise?!" Clark nodded affirmatively. "Well then, I've got a few ideas on how we can ....." "Lo-is," Clark interrupted. "All right, knock off the chatter!" Jamie snapped as he suddenly returned to the group. "The boss is ready to see you now and it's not a moment too soon! >From my point of view, you've all been *class A* pains in the butt! Especially you two!" he said as he pointed at Lois and Clark. "I can't wait 'til I can take care of you *my way*," he said with an evil grin. The group followed Jamie through the doorway into a massive, elegantly furnished room. At the far end of it was a huge fireplace, that was in use despite the furnace-like heat outside. A massive rattan chair with a peacock back was positioned near the fireplace directly in front of french doors that led out of the study and on to a large patio area complete with an Olympic size swimming pool. Lois and Clark instantly recognized the huge man dressed in a white linen suit who was lounging in the chair, sipping a glass of white wine. "Trevalian!" Lois and Clark said in unison. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:38:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me --Part 5 Lois had only been in her room for a few minutes when there was a knock at her door. Peering out the small peephole, she was relieved to see Clark standing outside in the hotel corridor. Lois eagerly opened the door, pulled Clark inside and rapidly closed it behind him. Once inside she launched herself at Clark, wrapping her arms around his neck, pushing him up against the door and ravenously kissing him as she pressed her entire body against his. "I know it's only been 12 hours or so, but God, I've missed touching you," Lois said breathlessly as the kiss ended. "I've missed you too, sweetheart," Clark replied as he tucked Lois's head under his chin and hugged her tightly to his chest so he could enjoy the feel of her body next to his. "I didn't realize how hard it would be when we agreed with Jack's suggestion that Dave and Becky would be *just friends*, " he complained. "Not being able to hold your hand, much less kiss you since we left Metropolis has been torture! I think that was the longest flight of my life!" Lois sighed as she snuggled even closer to Clark, "It was for me too. I guess flying *Superman Express* for the past few months has spoiled me. It felt *unnatural* to be making a long trip like this without your arms wrapped around me." Clark nodded in agreement. "I'm just so *angry* at Jack Olsen and his harebrained ideas!" Lois lamented. "Here we are, away from Metropolis in a tropical paradise and you're staying down the hall! Sharing a suite with Jimmy and Jack no less!" "Speaking of Jack, I assume your performance in the hotel lobby was for his benefit?" Clark asked as he tenderly caressed Lois's cheek. Lois nodded in agreement. "You realize, of course," Clark continued, "he probably thinks we're up here plotting against him." "That's exactly what I want him to think," Lois responded her eyes flashing. "He deserves it for being so darn mysterious at the Planet and for manipulating us into helping him." Clark chuckled. "Then I suppose Jack should consider this a *life lesson at no charge* courtesy of Lois Lane?" Lois giggled. "You could say that," she said as she nodded her head affirmatively. Smiling warmly, Clark tilted Lois's chin up until her eyes met his and gave her a tender kiss. After savoring the feel of Lois's lips on his for a few minutes Clark reluctantly broke the kiss off. "Darling," he said, "as much as *I've* enjoyed teaching Jack this particular lesson, we'd better join the others." "Well, before we go back downstairs, there is one more thing I wanted to talk to you about in private," Lois replied as she began toying with the buttons of Clark's shirt. "What is it honey?" Clark asked. "Are you planning to *zoom* back to Metropolis anytime soon?" Lois asked as she gradually moved one of her hands from the front of Clark's shirt and began tracing a line with her finger tip from his cheek to his neck and back again. Clark shivered slightly in response to Lois's touch and pulled her closer. "I was planning to sneak out and *zoom* back tonight for my regular patrol," Clark replied. "I don't think it would be wise for *you know who* to be absent from Metropolis for too long. Why, did you forget something?" he asked. "Actually," Lois said coyly as she began to place small kisses along Clark's jawbone, "I was wondering if you could bring back some Double Fudge Crunch bars for me?" "What?!" Clark asked. "Clark, that creepy customs officer must have taken my entire stash of Crunch bars when he searched my luggage at the airport!" Lois replied, her voice taking on a slightly frustrated tone as she remembered what happened. "You know they're almost impossible to find outside of Metropolis and if I can't have *you* I should at least be able to have *chocolate*!" "Gee, does that mean I rank on the same level as Double Fudge Crunch bars? I'm honored," Clark teased as he gave Lois a good-natured grin. "Okay honey, I should be able to smuggle back a few bars for you, but it won't be easy. You know the *suit* doesn't have pockets," he joked. Lois flashed Clark a bright, pleased smile, "Thanks, sweetie, you're the best," she said as she gave him a quick kiss on the lips. The kiss quickly escalated as Clark pulled her into a close embrace and eagerly pressed his mouth to hers. But before their kiss could deepen any further there was a knock on the door and a familiar voice asked rather sheepishly: "Guys? Are you in there? Dad kinda wants you downstairs... *now*." _______________________________________ Despite the fact that the meeting with Sandoval and Ortega lasted several hours, Jack had the group up before dawn the next day. Dressed in beige khaki work clothes and heavy boots, they were already outside waiting when Sandoval, Ortega and the local work crew arrived for the trek into Corto Maltese's rugged interior region. Quickly loading their equipment into the trucks the group set off. About three hours later the group approached a small village, in the foothills of the San Marquez mountains just inside the Cordova Valley. The sun was barely over the horizon, yet the temperature and humidity were already high and the day promised to be a sweltering one. As the truck Lois, Clark and Jimmy were riding in pulled to a stop in a clearing, Jimmy leaped out and dashed towards a nearby patch of jungle. "Gee," Clark said as he watched Jimmy's speedy retreat into the bushes, "considering the way he drives and all the wild rides he takes on his motorcycle, I never expected Jimmy to get carsick." "I'm not surprised, this heat would make anyone queasy," Lois said wearily as she slid to the ground and leaned back against the side of the truck. "My head is pounding and my stomach feels like it's doing the Macarena," she continued as she placed her head on her knees and began to rock slowly back and forth. Clark crouched down next to Lois and gently placed his arm around her shoulder. "Can I get you anything hon...er, *Becky*?" he asked with concern. "Thanks *Dave*. A cool drink would be nice," Lois responded as she gave Clark a weak smile. Almost before she finished her sentence Clark had located the canteen in the truck and had handed it to her. Lois took a small swallow from it and grimaced. "Ugh" she said, "I just wish this water wasn't so tepid." Clark took the canteen from Lois, and after carefully looking around the area to make sure that they were not being observed, he chilled it with a quick blast of his superbreath and returned it to her. Lois gave Clark a warm smile and took a long sip of the now cool water. "I don't know what I'd do without you, sweetheart," she whispered. Before Clark could respond, Jimmy reappeared from the jungle clearing. Pale and a little unsteady on his feet he staggered to the truck and without a word climbed into its back, and curled up into a near-fetal position. "Is he okay?" Lois asked nervously as Clark climbed into the back of the truck to check on Jimmy. "His pulse, respiration and temperature are just about normal," Clark responded as he scanned his friend's prone figure with his supersenses. "I think he's just asleep." Clark's diagnosis was confirmed moments later, when Jimmy rolled onto his back and began to snore. "Well, I can't really blame him," Lois replied as she removed her baseball cap and began fanning herself. "We really haven't had much sleep in the last couple of days," Stifling a yawn, she continued, "I could use a nap myself." Clark smiled and repositioned himself on the ground next to Lois so that she could rest her head on his shoulder. Lois closed her eyes and snuggled closer to Clark. The sound of his steady heartbeat and his rhythmic breathing had just begun to lull her to sleep when Jack, Sandoval and Ortega walked over to the truck. "Sorry to disturb you two," Jack said in a voice tinged with irritation, "but have you seen Jim?" Clark sighed and pointed over his shoulder to the back of the truck, as he rose to his feet. "What?!" Jack responded as he and Sandoval quickly moved to the rear of the truck to check on Jimmy. "Jimmy isn't feeling very well and neither is Becky, for that matter," Clark said as he joined Jack and Sandoval. "I don't think it's anything serious, probably just a combination of jet lag and this heat. After all it's almost 90 degrees here and it's just 8:00 in the morning. That takes some getting use to." "That is very true Senor Guthrie. Our weather is *intense* and it often has this affect on visitors," Sandoval said sympathetically. "But you do not seem to be bothered by it at all! In fact you're not even sweating!" he added in amazement. Squirming a little, Clark chose his words carefully and hoped that Jack was too intent on determining Jimmy's condition to notice Sandoval's comments. "Well I've traveled quite a bit in tropical parts of the world, so I guess I've gotten use to this kind of weather. I've always been very....... *adaptable*." "You are very lucky to be so *adaptable*, my young friend," Sandoval responded. "I'm sure your companions wish they shared this trait." "You can say that again," Lois declared as she wearily rose from her spot on the ground. Ortega moved closer to Lois and took her by the hand. "I am terribly sorry that you are not feeling well, Rebecca," he said unctuously. "Perhaps now you'll reconsider my offer and ride with me. I'm certain my Range Rover is more comfortable than this flatbed truck." "That's very kind of you, Roberto," Lois said with a tight smile as she deftly removed her hand from his, "but as I explained before, I like to be near my *equipment* and since I don't think you're willing to carry my explosives and detonators too," Ortega gave Lois a nervous look and nodded in agreement, "I guess I'll just have to stay where I am." A sly smile crept over Lois's face and she surreptitiously winked at Clark. "But I wouldn't want your generous offer to go to waste," she continued smoothly. "Maybe someone else could take my place? I'm sure Jimmy would appreciate a kinder, gentler ride. Right, Jim?" "Huh!?" Jimmy groggily replied. Even though he was now in an upright position, Jimmy was still dazed and confused as he leaned against the truck's side railing, holding his head in his hands. Jack quickly exited the truck and went to Jimmy's side. It was clear that he was still concerned about Jimmy's condition and he placed a strong arm around his son's shoulder to steady him. Jack was rewarded for his actions with a weak smile and a quick wink from Jimmy which Jack acknowledged with a wink of his own before he turned back to join the others. "I think this discussion is basically moot," he declared firmly. "No one is going to be *riding* anywhere in this kind of terrain. "We'll be on foot until we reach the proposed site for the dam. So I suggest we rest up a little and then get ready for a *long* walk." "Gee, a 75 mile hike through a steamy, bug-infested jungle. You really know how to show a lady a good time, Jack," Lois interjected acidly. "I know you're not at 100 percent right now, Becky," Clark said with concern as he struggled to remain in character and mask the depth of his true feelings for Lois. "Do you think you can handle that?" Lois smiled reassuringly and nodded. "How about you, Jim?" Clark asked as he looked back at the younger man still leaning against the side of the truck. "Sure, C..er, Dave,...I'm fine," Jimmy replied shakily. "But I sure wish I had the number of that truck." Jack gave Jimmy a warm smile "You mean the one that hit you, right son?" "Gee, Dad, it didn't just hit me. I think it backed up and ran over me a few times just for the heck of it," Jimmy joked. "But I'll be okay, just give me a few minutes to clear my head." "Sure Jim," Jack said affectionately. "You and Becky rest up. Dave and I will take care of the equipment." "There would be no need to undertake this arduous journey if we were to follow *my* suggestion and build the dam near here," Ortega stated petulantly. "As I've told you before, Roberto, that is not an option," Sandoval replied evenly. "There are simply too many villages in this area. Constructing the dam here would destroy those homes and farms." "Stupid peasants," Ortega responded. "Their worthless homes and farms could easily be relocated. This area is clearly the best location for the dam and they are simply standing in the way of progress!" "Actually," Clark observed, "After studying the maps and the geography of this region, it's pretty clear that the best location for the dam would be further up the Cordova River, about 80 miles or so to the northwest of here. I think the area is part of the Quinada Plantation?" Ortega blanched. "That... that location is simply not available," he sputtered. "It..it is a very hazardous region." "Politically hazardous is what you really mean," Sandoval countered. Turning to face Clark he continued, "You are correct, Senor Guthrie. The best location for the dam would be on that part of the Quinada plantation. But that would not sit well with its owner, *Preston Trager*." The normally congenial Sandoval almost spat out Trager's name. Observing this change in Sandoval's demeanor, Lois sprang to life. "Who's Preston Trager? What does he have to do with this project?" "Preston Trager is one of Corto Maltese's leading residents and philanthropists," Ortega answered. "He owns mining and farming interests in this country and he has a considerable fortune which..." "Which he has used to buy power and influence at the highest levels of our government!" Sandoval interrupted angrily. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:38:59 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me-- Part 8 "A half hour after you left, about ten of these clowns showed up at the ruins," Lois whispered. "They didn't offer any explanation for their actions, they just brandished their weapons and said that they would shoot to kill if we tried anything funny. A few minutes later the rest of the gang showed up with Sandoval and the guides plus all our stuff from the campsite. Then they lined us up and marched us here. End of story, unless you want to hear about Ortega's whining along the way." As she spoke, Lois shifted position slightly so that more of her face was turned towards Clark and he noticed that a large and ugly bruise was forming on the right side of her face. Clark's eyes narrowed. "That's not everything and you know it, Lois. Tell me which one of them did *that* to you," he demanded. "Clark, it's all right," Lois answered evasively. "No, it's *not* all right, Lois!" Clark replied, his brown eyes flashing with anger. "How did it happen!" "Promise me you won't do anything *crazy*, at least not yet," Lois replied. "What!? Lo-is!" Clark said sharply. "Clark!" Lois responded. They stared at each other in silence for a few moments until Clark relented. "All right, I promise, now tell me," he said. Lois sighed and angled her head towards a tall, hefty man with dark hair who was talking to the gang leader. "That one, they call him Mike," she said. "His hands *roamed* while he was searching me so I *connected* my knee with his inseam. When he recovered, he backhanded me." Clark winced. "Go on," he said hoarsely. "There's not much more to tell," Lois replied. "The blonde guy, I think they call him Jamie, came over and chewed Mike out. Told him to keep his hands to himself and to remember it was always business before pleasure. Then Sandoval helped me up and that was it." As Lois finished recounting her story, Jack edged closer to where she was sitting with Clark. "Have you two finished your family reunion yet?" he asked. "I need to talk to Lois." "You know, Jack, you're almost as good at interfering with our private conversations as Jimmy," Lois replied with a wry smile. "Do you think this could be a *genetic* problem?" Jack smirked. "We can debate the existence of an *Olsen Interupptus* gene later, provided we're still *around* later and are able to carry on any kind of discussion. Right now I need your help." "What do you need me to do?" Lois asked warily. "I just want you to tell me what you've observed about our captors. Every detail no matter how small." "Might I ask why?" Lois asked. "Knowledge precedes victory, ignorance precedes defeat," Jack replied cryptically. "Sun Tzu's *The Art of War*," Clark whispered. "The more you know about them, the better your chance of figuring out a way to defeat them." Jack gave Clark a wolfish grin. "Exactly." Turning back to Lois he continued, "Sandoval and the guides were able to give me some general information, but since you're a trained observer of people, you should be able to provide me with something more useful." "You mean information about how they interact? Whether there are any personal weak spots or cracks in their armor that we could use against them. That kind of thing?" Lois asked. Jack nodded affirmatively. "Okay," Lois began, "for one thing I think only two or three of them speak English." Tilting her head in the direction of the men guarding them, Lois continued. "I'm pretty sure these guys don't. And it's caused some problems on our hike over here, since Jamie doesn't appear to speak anything but English." "That's good to know." Jack responded. "We may be able to use it to our advantage somehow." Lois nodded affirmatively and continued, "Also Jamie seems very insecure and he's....." "Uh-oh, we've got company," Clark interrupted as Jamie and several of the others approached the group. Jamie and his men entered the clearing and stopped directly in front of Lois, Clark and Jack. "Which one of you is *Jack Olsen*?" he sneered. Both Jack and Clark stood up. "Why do you want to know?" Clark asked. "Look pal," Jamie said angrily, "I don't have time to play games. Now whichever one of you is Olsen better come clean now or I'm going to let the guys have a little target practice, with your friends as the targets!" "You're bluffing," Jack replied. "You know you can't do that. You said your boss wanted us alive for questioning." "That's true," Jamie replied as he caressed the handle of the 357 Magnum he had protruding from his waistband, "but *accidents* can happen. I wonder who we should use first? The old man? The babe? Maybe the kid?" Jack sighed heavily. "There's no need for that, *I'm* Jack Olsen," he said. "Now, that wasn't so bad was it, Jack?" Jamie said as he gave Jack a predatory smile. "And don't look so gloomy," he continued as he led Jack away from the rest of the group. "I just want to have a *chat* with you." As Clark started off after Jack and Jamie, two other gang members blocked the way and leveled their rifles at him. "Sorry, pal, this a *private* conversation. Just take your seat," Jamie said as he and Jack disappeared from sight. Moments later two shots rang out from the area where Jack was taken and within seconds, two of the guards dragged Jack back to the clearing and dumped him on the ground directly in front of Lois and Clark. "Dad!" Jimmy shouted out as he scrambled closer to his father. "CK, Lois, he's not.." "No Jimmy, he's still alive... he's breathing and I can feel a pulse," Clark responded as he and Lois knelt around Jack's prostrate form. "But he's got nasty gunshot wounds in his shoulder and leg, and we've got to stop that bleeding!" Sandoval moved in closer and placed a comforting hand on Jimmy's shoulder. "You should come back with me and sit down, Jim. They will need room to work on your father." Hollow-eyed and close to tears, Jimmy nodded and shifted position to allow Lois and Clark freer access to Jack. With Jimmy out of the way Clark was able to secretly examine Jack's wounds using his X-ray vision. Once his examination was over he whispered to Lois, "There's a bullet lodged in Jack's shoulder, but I think we'll be able to remove it, if we get a medical kit. The bigger problem is one of the bullets severed an artery in Jack's leg. I know direct pressure alone won't be enough to stop it." "Then, what can we do?" Lois asked as she tore away Jack's bloody clothing from his wounds. "If you can provide some cover I might be able to cauterize the leg wound with my heat vision," Clark replied. Lois nodded her head slightly and then shifted her body so that she partially blocked the view of Clark and Jack. Once he was shielded, Clark directed a quick burst of his heat vision at Jack's thigh. Lois steadied Jack's body as it jerked involuntary from the pain created when the twin beams of radiant energy sealed his spurting blood vessel. As Jack's spasms subsided, Clark switched to his x-ray vision and checked the area again to confirm that he had been successful. A few moments later, Jack's eyes flickered open. "Jim..?" he called weakly. "I'm.. right here, Dad," Jimmy replied, as he quickly returned to his father's side. "Don't be too worried, son." Jack said as he grimaced in pain. "This happens to me a lot. I guess you could call it one of the major drawbacks of the job," Jack chuckled weakly. Jimmy managed a weak smile which Jack responded to with a wink, just before he slipped back into unconsciousness. "Dad, no!" Jimmy cried. "He's still with us, Jimmy," Lois said reassuringly. "But I think he may be going into shock from the pain and blood loss." Clark nodded. "It is very possible. We may have gotten the bleeding under control, but we really need to get that bullet out of his shoulder. And he's going to need something for the pain." A look of determination came into Clark's eyes and he stood up and headed to the edge of the clearing where Jamie was loitering with some of his men. "Hey!" Clark called out, "I need to talk to you!" Jamie looked over at Clark. "You got a problem?" he asked sarcastically. "Yeah, I've got a problem! This man is injured and I need our medical kit right now! Where is it?!" Clark replied. "You need the medical kit?!" Jamie asked as he moved up to the edge of the clearing until he came within an arm's length of Clark. "Well ain't that just too bad," he said as he gave an evil laugh, "cuz you ain't gettin' it, big guy! So sit down and shut up!" "Look," Clark responded angrily, "I don't have time to play macho games with you. This man's life may be at stake. Now where's that medical kit?" "Well, it looks like we've got us a *hero*," Jamie said mockingly as he turned to his men. Turning back to face Clark he pulled his pistol from his waistband and stuck it into Clark's midsection. "Look, *hero*, as long I've got the gun, I give the orders! Now *I said* sit down and shut up!" he shouted as he continually jabbed the gun into Clark's stomach for emphasis. Ignoring the gun, Clark stared unwaveringly at Jamie. "And *I said* this man needs medical attention," he stated in a calm steady voice. "Now are you going to let one of us go and get our medical kit or are you going to send one of your lackeys to do it?" For tense seconds Clark and Jamie faced off, then, clearly unsettled by Clark's calm demeanor, Jamie lowered his weapon. "All right," he acquiesced. "No sense having *two* accidents to explain to the boss. You can have the damn kit!" "Great, I'll just go.." Clark began. "Oh no, not you.. " Jamie interrupted. "Her!" he said pointing at Lois. "You're not going anywhere, *hero*." "Now wait a minute!" Clark said with concern. Lois nodded and stood up from Jack's side, "It's all right. I'll go." "Good." Jamie replied. Noticing Clark's look of concern he smirked and turned back to his men. "And Mike, you go with her," he added hastily. Mike blanched. "What?! Why me? I don't want to tangle with that hellcat again! Once was enough!" he protested. "Quit your complaining!" Jamie countered. "You've got a gun. If she gives you any problems, you *know* what to do." Mike nodded slowly, unshouldered his automatic rifle and pointed it at Lois. "Let's go. But don't try anything funny," he said warily. "Don't worry. You should be safe. You've got that *nice big gun* to protect you," Lois remarked icily as she gave Mike a withering glance. As Lois and Mike disappeared from view, Jamie turned back to Clark. "When your girlfriend gets back here, you'd better patch Olsen up fast! Our ride will be here soon and I don't like keeping the boss waiting," he said callously. "What kind of ride? What are you talking about?" Clark asked. "You'll find out," Jamie called smugly over his shoulder as he left the clearing. As Jamie left, Sandoval and the guides rushed to Clark's side. "*Madre Dios* my friend, that was one of the *bravest* things I have ever seen!" Sandoval said sincerely. "You mean it was one of the most *foolish!*" Ortega countered. "He should be spending his time and energy on convincing our captors to release us." "Roberto, you cannot mean that!" Sandoval said with dismay. "What about Senor Olsen?" Ortega glanced down at Jimmy and Jack and then turned back to the others. "He is as good as dead. And why should we risk our lives for a dead man? We must think of ourselves and our welfare. We are important government officials!" Fists clinched, Jimmy leaped up from Jack's side and charged straight at Ortega. "Easy, Jimmy," Clark said as he deftly grabbed and restrained the younger man. "He's not worth it." "I'm sorry if my candor has offended you," Ortega announced as he cowered behind Sandoval. "But it is time that you and Senor Guthrie faced reality and concentrated on securing our release." "If you think negotiating with our captors is so important, why don't *you* start? The rest of us can *waste* our time with Jack," Clark replied sharply. Ortega turned pale. "Me? Begin negotiations with those animals?!" he said incredulously. "No, no, that is not possible! Besides the leaders are obviously Americans, *your* countrymen! They will undoubtably listen to you!" "Be silent Roberto," Sandoval chastened. "I doubt these men will listen to Senor Guthrie or anyone else. They are clearly mercenaries and I am certain that they have no intention of releasing us until we have been questioned by their *boss*." Clark nodded in agreement. "I just wonder...." he began. But before he could complete his sentence, Lois returned with the medical kit, and all other discussion stopped as they began preparations to operate on Jack's shoulder. With the others out of the way, Lois swiftly cleaned and bandaged Jack's leg wound while Clark, using his x-ray vision, quickly located and removed the bullet lodged in Jack's shoulder. As Lois began to wrap the shoulder wound, Jack stirred to life and tried to sit up. "Careful!" Lois said as she tried to stop Jack by gently placing her hand on his good shoulder. "Arrghh!" Jack gasped, as his face contorted in pain. Then, after staring wordlessly at Clark and Lois for a few seconds he sank back down to the ground. "Well, that was obviously a mistake," he said matter-of-factly as he gave them both a wry grin. Both Lois and Clark chuckled. "I'll see what we've got for pain," Clark said as he quickly began to examine the contents of the medical kit. With Lois's help Jack sat up a little. "You guys did a pretty good job of patching me up," he mumbled appreciatively as he eyed his bandaged shoulder and leg. Despite the improvement in his condition, Jack's breathing was labored and his words came in short gasps. "But it won't count for much if we don't get out of this mess." Jack closed his eyes and was silent. Then after a few moments he spoke again. "How's Jim holding up?" he asked quietly. "Pretty good, I think. But why don't you ask him yourself," Lois replied as she observed Clark pulling a small bottle of pills out of the medical kit. "Oh Jimmy," she called over her shoulder. In an instant Jimmy was back at Jack's side. "Is something wrong, Lois?" he asked with concern. "No Jim, I just need you to watch your Dad for a few minutes," Lois answered. Lois exchanged places with Jimmy and then turned back to Clark. "I think we need some water for Jack," she announced. "And I need to talk to you alone!" she added in a voice only Clark could hear. Clark nodded in agreement, picked up their canteens and walked over to the group of men guarding them. "-We need water-." he stated in Spanish. After eyeing Clark and Lois carefully, the guard turned back to his cohorts and mumbled a few words in Spanish. When the other men finally nodded their respective heads affirmatively, the guard turned back to Clark and said "Si." The guard then motioned to two of the other men, who unshouldered their weapons and fell into step behind him as he marched Lois and Clark away from the clearing and towards the spot where a freshwater spring bubbled to the surface. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:39:04 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me ---Part 1 The principal characters in this story are based on the television series "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Supreman." The usual disclaimers apply and this story is not intended to be an infringement on the rights of the corporate powers that be. This represents my second attempt at writing a fanfic. And while it's not necessary to have read 'The Perfect Gift' in order to understand this one, I do refer back to events from that earlier work in this story. I started this story several months ago as my way of combatting LCWS caused by the Fourth Season hiatuses, and it was meant to fit into the period right after A/K/A Superman, but before The Lex Files. Unlike my earlier story this one does have an A-plot (a whole lot of A-plot in fact ) and my struggles over the last few months trying to keep the proper balance between A and B plots has only increased my admiration for the show's writers. Finally, fans of the comics, particularly those who have read "Superman: Under the Yellow Sun" will recognize a few items that were borrowed from it . Thanks again to Georgia Walden for her encouragement and editing. Feedback is appreciated. Come Spy With Me (or How Lois and Clark Spent Their Spring Vacation) by Eileen (Eraygun@aol.com) "Here you go, hon," Clark said with a smile as he handed a sleepy-eyed Lois a large Styrofoam cup of coffee. "Thnk yu, swtee," Lois mumbled as she yawned and leaned back against one of the walls in the deserted lobby of the Daily Planet building. Lois took a swallow of coffee, shook her head slowly, and grumbled, "I *still* can't believe Perry called and told us to meet him here at 5:00 a.m.! We worked until 1:00 o'clock last night and it's Saturday morning, for pity's sake!" "Well, honey," Clark replied evenly as he pressed the button to summon the elevator. "You know Perry. It has to be something majorly important or he wouldn't have insisted that we meet him here." Almost on cue the elevator door sprang open and Clark shepherded Lois into the waiting compartment. "He must have a tip on a hot story." "That tip had better lead to something approaching the level of a *Kerth award* winner or someone is going to be *really* sorry!" Lois said testily as she stabbed the button for the newsroom's floor. "After all, we've worked three weekends in a row and he promised us that we'd have this one off! I was really looking forward to spending some *quality* time with you," she continued softly, as she took Clark's free hand in hers and intertwined their fingers. Nodding in agreement, Clark sighed, lifted Lois's hand to his lips and gently kissed it. They had both been working extremely hard the past few weeks as a result of helping to launch the Planet's new on-line edition on the World Wide Web. In fact, they'd been putting in 14, sometimes even 16 hour days at the office. And since their increase in work had been matched by a rise in the demand for Superman's special services, Clark had barely seen Lois in the few hours that they did have away from the job. But, even though he was more than a little disappointed when Perry called this morning, Clark tried to be philosophical. Smiling warmly, he lifted up Lois's chin until she faced him and said, "I know this isn't what we planned, darling, but we've had so many interruptions lately I consider *any* time with you to be quality time." Lois gave Clark a rueful grin and took another long sip of the steaming liquid in her cup. "I'm sorry, sweetheart" she said sincerely. "I shouldn't be taking this out on you. It's not your fault." Lois yawned again and stretched. Slightly more awake, she sensually wrapped her free arm around Clark's waist, and pulled him close. Eyeing the brown paper bag in Clark's hand, she gave him a mischievous smile and said, "I don't suppose you were able to scrounge up a danish or two, or some doughnuts to go with this coffee? I'm *starving*." "Well, I don't *see* any danish or doughnuts," Clark said teasingly as he pretended to x-ray the paper sack, "but will a blueberry muffin do?" And with a flourish, Clark opened the bag and pulled out a large muffin. "Ohhh, my favorite!" Lois said excitedly, as she released Clark and greedily grabbed for the treat. She began to devour it almost at once. "Hmmmm! It's still warm! It must be fresh baked!" she said hurriedly in between large bites, "Where on earth did you get this? I didn't know there was a bakery around here that was open this early on Saturday." "I didn't get it around here, I got it outside of Paris," Clark said nonchalantly. Lois's eyes widened. "Why, sweetheart!" she said smiling sweetly, "you didn't have to go all the way to France just for me!" Clark grinned. "Who said anything about France?" he replied teasingly. "I got the muffins and coffee from LuLu's All Night Cafe and Truck Stop, right outside of Paris, Texas. She serves the *best* homestyle breakfast in the Lone Star state. And you should taste her blueberry pie!" Lois smirked and raised one eyebrow. "Very funny," she said, "Have I ever told you that you are waaaay too cheerful in the mornings?" "Really?" Clark replied as he pulled Lois into his arms. Hugging her close, he looked into her eyes and asked playfully, "Well, what do you intend to do about it?" "Just this,." Lois responded as she speedily discarded her now empty coffee cup, wrapped her arms around Clark's neck and hungrily pressed her mouth to his. But before the kiss could deepen any further, the elevator door slid open and they both heard a familiar voice say: "All right, you two lovebirds, break it up." Lois and Clark turned to face Perry. "Morning, chief," they said in chorus, as they reluctantly disengaged and left the elevator. "My office, now!" Perry said gruffly, "I'll be back shortly." And with that he entered the waiting elevator and left the newsroom floor. Lois looked at Clark quizzically. Clark shrugged. "Your guess is as good as mine, honey," he said in response to her unspoken question. Taking Lois by the hand, he led her down the ramp and they walked through the darkened newsroom to Perry's office. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:39:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me-- Part 6 "Gee, that sounds vaguely familiar," Lois quipped as Jack shot her a look of disapproval. Sandoval sighed and gave Lois a rueful grin. "I realize that this kind of thing is fairly commonplace, Senorita Carr, but that doesn't make it any easier to tolerate," he replied. "Despite the fact that it will improve the lives of hundreds of thousands of my countrymen, the Cordova Dam project has been delayed for years because of the action of men like Preston Trager, who place their interests above all others. In this case I'm afraid that his greed and selfishness has placed my country in the untenable position of having to endanger the treasures of its past if it wishes to move forward into the future." "What do you mean?" Lois asked. "Exploratory excavations in the area suggest that the ruins of the fabled Malynkan city of Xinatocha are located close to the proposed dam site. While the proximity such a significant archaeological find would normally render the site unacceptable, in this case, thanks to Trager and his friends in high places, we have no choice. The dam *must* be built there, or it will not be built at all. Even though I want the dam project to be completed, it greatly disturbs me that we may have to make this kind of sacrifice." "I think we all realize that sometimes you have to make sacrifices for the common good," Jack replied as he stole a quick glance in Jimmy's direction. "But I can also understand your concerns in this matter Minister Sandoval," he continued smoothly. "Rest assured that we will do everything we can to ensure that the Cordova dam's negative impact on the surrounding countryside will be minimal. In fact after we have completed our survey of the dam site, I suggest that we visit the area containing the Xinatocha ruins as well, to determine how best to protect them. At no extra charge over our base fee of course." "You would be willing to do this?" Sandoval asked eagerly. "Of course, just part of the full range of services provided by Olsen Civil Engineering," Jack said with a smile. "Excellente, Senor Olsen!" Sandoval responded happily. "That would be wonderful, just wonderful! Such an examination would certainly assuage some of my misgivings about the proposed dam site. Roberto and I will see if we can obtain extra supplies for the trip at that village." As Sandoval and Ortega quickly headed into the nearby village, Jack turned back to Lois, Clark and Jimmy. "Gee, Jack, thanks a lot," Lois said testily as she took off her cap and waved it around to disperse the cloud of insects buzzing around her head. "Your little side trip is certain to extend our stay in this godforsaken jungle!" "Well, it can't be helped, our storehouse is in the same general area," Jack said evenly. "We can use the fake environmental impact study as cover and be able to examine it without attracting any additional attention to ourselves." "You mean your study will be a fake?! Clark said with alarm. "But that site might contain priceless pre-Columbian artifacts. Sandoval is depending on us to come up with a way to protect them." "I know, but there simply isn't enough time to do it," Jack replied coolly. "But if we don't do *something* everything in that area will end up under 500 feet of water!" Lois interjected. "We can't worry about that now," Jack said tersely. "But..." Lois and Clark said in unison. "Look," Jack replied curtly, "in case you've forgotten, our mission is to find out who's stealing NIA weapons and to put a stop to it. To do that I'm willing to put Xinatocha, the Sphinx, or even the *Washington Monument* under 500 feet of water! Now, we've got a job to do! So let's get moving." ___________________________________________ Leaving behind some men to guard the trucks, the work team set out. Despite Lois's and Jimmy's weakened physical condition (and Ortega's constant complaints), they were able to make good time to the proposed dam site. Once there the work went quickly, thanks to Jack's engineering skills and Clark's well-timed (but secret) use of his superpowers. Upon completion of their work up river, the group split up, with the bulk of the work team returning to the base camp back at the village, while Lois, Clark, Jimmy, Jack, Sandoval and Ortega, along with two guides, went further into the dense jungle, until they reached the abandoned archeological dig that marked the purported location of Xinatocha's ruins. Arriving during a driving rain storm, they made camp in a nearby clearing, ate a soggy meal and then turned in for the night hoping that the dawn would bring drier weather. Later, after the storms had finally cleared out, Clark left his tent and silently made his way to the river. Finding a spot in a clearing close to the water's edge Clark sat down, expanded his supersenses, and drank in the myriad sights, sounds and smells of the surrounding jungle. The yellow crescent moon hung low in the sky and the surface of the river glistened like a sheet of black ice. After a few minutes there was a slight rustling in the bushes behind him. A small smile crept over Clark's face as he recognized the sound of Lois's heartbeat and he turned to face her just as she entered the clearing. "I should know by now that it's pointless to try and sneak up on you," Lois said with a wry smile as she joined Clark at the riverbank. "That's very true." Clark replied as he returned her smile with one of his own, "but I think you should keep trying. It brings some excitement into our *dull and mundane* lives. And besides, I *love* surprises." Lois laughed. "That's not what you said last month after Perry threw that surprise birthday party for you," she teased as she moved closer to Clark so that she was standing directly over him. "Well, there are surprises," Clark answered as he playfully grabbed Lois by the arm and quickly pulled her into his lap, "and then there are *surprises*." Lois giggled as she wrapped her arms around Clark's neck. Pulling face closer to hers she slowly brushed her lips against his, enjoying the texture and the tantilizing sensation of his warm breath on her face. As the kiss ended Lois sighed, and nestled in closer to Clark, resting her head on his bare chest. "So," she whispered, "what are you doing up? You snuck out to Metropolis last night, I've still got a few crunch bars left to prove it," she teased. "Two words," Clark replied. "Jimmy's snoring." "Well," Lois snickered, "I did warn you. I had an earful when I stayed at his place a few years ago. After a while even his heavy metal music is preferable." Clark chuckled. "I can believe that." he replied. "So, what brings you out at this time of night?" he asked with just a tinge of concern in his voice. Lois shrugged. "I don't know," she responded, "just restless, maybe. To be perfectly honest, I haven't really slept well on this trip. I guess I've missed sleeping next to you." Clark drew back slightly from their embrace so he could cup Lois's cheek in his hand. "Darling," he said, "when we get back home, we are going away on a *real* vacation. Just the two of us." Lois nodded in agreement and snuggled back into Clark's chest. "Maybe we could *finally* go to Hawaii?" she asked teasingly. Clark smiled and nodded. "Or Paris. Or we could even go somewhere closer to home, like the beach or the mountains," Clark replied. "But I guess after this trip you won't want to go *camping with Clark* for a long time," he added with a grin. "Sweetheart, being alone with you *anywhere* sounds wonderful," Lois said sincerely, her eyes sparkling. "And don't worry, I'd love to go *camping with Clark* anytime. It's camping with Jimmy and Jack and Manuel and Roberto and Jose and Eduardo I never want to do again!" "Well, I think that can be arranged," Clark chuckled, as he pulled Lois into an even closer embrace and tucked her head under his chin. Then looking up at the night sky, Clark sighed and said, "I hate to bring this up, but I'm afraid we'd better get back to our tents. It's getting late and Jack will probably want us up at the crack of dawn tomorrow." "I've got an idea," Lois replied with a sly grin. "Instead of you going back to your tent and me going back to mine, why don't you just come back to *my tent*? I promise *I* won't snore." "Honey, you know Becky and Dave are supposed to be just friends. What if someone sees us together?" Clark asked with concern. "Oh, come on Clark, that's not going to happen. If they can sleep through Jimmy's snoring they won't notice us at all," Lois countered. "Besides even if someone other than Jimmy or Jack did see us together, what of it? They'd just think that we've become *closer* friends over the course of this trip. Soooo--" she drawled coquettishly as she began to plant small kisses on Clark's neck and chest and tangle her fingers in his hair. "Why don't you come back to my place *Dave*? I don't have pizza or movies there but I'm sure we could think of *something* to do for entertainment." Clark hesitated for a few seconds. "I think I've got a better idea." he replied. Then he stood up, scooped Lois up into his arms and began to slowly levitate into the nearby treetops. Lois giggled and her eyes grew wider. "Where are we going?!" she asked breathlessly. "Well, instead of movies I thought that we'd do a little role playing to *entertain* ourselves," Clark replied as he gave a Lois a huge grin. "Have you ever seen *Tarzan and his Mate*?" he asked playfully. Lois giggled again and nodded affirmatively as she snuggled closer to Clark and pressed her lips to his. As they floated higher and their kisses deepened, Lois felt her awareness of the outside world fade away and time itself seemed to stand still creating a cocoon of silence around her and Clark. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:39:37 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me-- Part 11 "Bravo! It's a pleasure to see that such esteemed members of the fourth estate remember me," the discredited former head of NIA covert operations responded. Acknowledging Lois's and Clark's observation with a slight bow of his head, he continued, "After all I was merely a *humble civil servant*." "But... but..this is Preston Trager!" Sandoval interjected. "I've seen his picture in our local newspapers!" Ignoring Sandoval's comments, Trevalian turned instead and looked directly at Jack. "It's so nice to see you again, my dear boy," he said, "but it would appear that you're a *bit* under the weather. Please, please sit down!" "I thought it might be you behind all this," Jack said weakly as Jimmy and Clark lowered him to the nearby loveseat. "But I was hoping I was wrong." "I don't understand this!" Lois interjected "The last time we checked you were being held in custody and awaiting trial! When did you escape from jail?" "It's very simple, my dear. I was never *in* jail," Trevalian replied. "In fact I was barely in custody." "What!?" Jimmy said in amazement. "But how is that possible?" "One of the advantages of being the *man with all the secrets*, no doubt," Clark replied with disgust. "Precisely!" Trevalian said smugly. "Several high level elected officials and key members of the Agency felt that it would be *embarassing* if I were actually to go to trial, so they arranged for the authorities to *misplace* me." "What happened to Sweet Tart?" Clark asked. "Did the authorities *misplace* her too?" "Yes, they did. But I'm afraid that Ms. Tart met with an unfortunate and *fatal* accident on our way here," Trevalian replied, "so I was forced to travel on alone." "So where is the 'real' Preston Trager?" Lois asked, "Did you dispose of him and take over his identity?" "Hardly anything like that, my dear girl." Trevalian answered. "You see Minister Sandoval is correct, I *am* Preston Trager. I bought this plantation using NIA funds over 20 years ago and I established the Trager identity at that time." "Have you been planning to betray the Agency and your country for that long?" Jack asked contemptuously. "Jack, you *wound* me. You really do," Trevalian said smoothly. "My little sideline business as an arms dealer wasn't about politics. It was about money, pure and simple. And through the years this house and the Trager identity have proved very profitable for me *and* the NIA. But of course money wasn't the only reason I decided to create a Preston Trager." "What else is there?" Clark asked. "Everyone needs a hobby," Trevalian answered blithely. "I created Trager purely on a whim, but I found having a second life, a secret identity *fun*, rather exhilarating in fact. But I wouldn't expect someone like *you* to understand that." "You'd be surprised." Clark replied flatly. "In addition, despite the *beastly* weather here, I rather like this little country," Trevalian continued. "And I've enjoyed *dabbling* in Corto Maltese's politics. It's given me the opportunity to hone my skills." "*Dabbling*!" Sandoval said angrily. "You call the rampant high level corruption and bribery you promoted *dabbling*!" "Calm down Minister Sandoval," Trevalian replied silkily. "What I did happens all the time and you *know* it. Over the years I've found that almost everyone has a price, although, it may not be strictly a *monetary* one." "Speaking of *prices*," Jack interrupted, "I'm pretty sure Singer, the new DCO must have known you were at large and probably behind all of this when he sent me on this mission. Was he in on your release? What do you have on him?" Trevalian began rolling his wine glass in his corpulent hands. "Oh not very much, just some incriminating photographs that were taken of him and *several* young women in a hotel room in Madagascar," he replied. "They're rather ordinary, in fact in this day and age, some would say that they're almost *quaint*. But for a person in Singer's position they would be devastating. And it's really quite amazing what he's been willing to do to keep them hidden." "He's been tipping you off about us all along, hasn't he?" Jack asked wearily. "That's very astute of you, Jack," Trevalian answered jovially. "Yes he has. Every time you reported in, Singer relayed the information directly to me. That's why I was able to have my *little* reception committee waiting for you. By the way, I'm awfully sorry about your little *unpleasantness* with Jamie. When I told him that you were very resourceful and that he should take steps to incapacitate you if possible, I had no idea he would take such extreme measures." "Well, it's hard to find good help these days," Lois said sardonically. "Precisely," Trevalian replied. "So what happens now?" Jack queried. "Do you intend to torture us? Kill us?" "Actually Jack, I have a proposition for you," Trevalian replied. "What kind of proposition?" Jack asked. "With Ms. Tart out of the picture, I'm clearly in need of some assistance in running this operation. I'd like you to take the job," Trevalian said matter-of-factly. "What!?" Jack replied, "You *must* be out of your mind!" "Now, now, my dear boy, don't be so shocked," Trevalian replied. "We both know you're a bit of a rotten egg. This will give you an opportunity to put that *dark side* of yours to work. Think of all the fun you could have thumbing your nose at all those NIA desk jockeys and petty Washington bureaucrats." Jack hesitated for a few seconds before responding. "What happens to the others?" he asked. "I was afraid you'd ask that. I'm sorry Jack but my offer is only for you," Trevalian replied with a slight tinge of remorse. "Although I admire their intelligence and skill, I doubt the *intrepid* investigative team of Lane and Kent would be interested in joining me. And Minister Sandoval besides being a dull bureaucrat is also, for all intents and purposes, incorruptible, although, heavens knows I tried." Jack gave a heavy sigh. "What about Jim?" he asked. Trevalian eyed Jimmy up and down. "Well I could use someone with computer skills and I'll admit that whelp of yours showed some promise in that area during our first encounter," he replied, "but I've been keeping track of his activities since then and I'm afraid he's just another chronic do-gooder like *these two*," Trevalian said as he pointed at Lois and Clark. "But why should it matter what happens to *him*, Jack? You've always been a *lone wolf*, why change now?" Waving away Jimmy's assistance, Jack got up from the loveseat and stood directly in front of Trevalian. "It'll be a cold day in *hell* before I work for you!" he said icily. Trevalian slowly shook his head. "What a shame. I was so looking forward to working with a *true* professional again," he said to Jack as he cast a disparaging look at Jamie and his men. "But I see you're still the *good soldier." "Old habits die hard," Jack said stoically. Trevalian shrugged slightly, then turned to face Jamie. "I suppose they're yours now,Jamie," he sighed. "But please try not to mess things up as much his time. I just had the carpets in the hallway cleaned." "Sure boss, no problem. We'll take it *nice and easy*," Jamie said as he smiled wolfishly. "'Specially since I already know who's going to get it first. We've got some unfinished business, right, *hero*?" he said as he pointed his weapon directly at Clark and started to pull the trigger. "Wait!" Lois yelled as she placed herself in front of Clark. "Aren't you forgetting about Superman?!" "What about him, my dear?" Trevalian asked. "If you kill us, you *know* he'll hunt you down and bring you to justice," Lois answered. "I've seen him bend steel with his bare hands! Just imagine what he could do to you. Do you really want him as an enemy?!" Trevalian shrugged again. "My dear Ms. Lane, under normal circumstances I would agree with you that Superman would be a formidable adversary. But I doubt I'll have to worry about him looking for me and my associates. In a very short time he'll be out of the picture." "Why? What sort of secret NIA weapon do you intend to use against him? Do you have it here now?!" Lois asked hurriedly as she stole a worried glance at Clark. "Oh I have something much better than a simple weapon. I have this!" Trevalian replied smugly as he pulled a floppy disk out of his pocket. "What is it?" Clark asked apprehensively. "This disk contains the *only* copy of the formula for *synthetic* Kryptonite," Trevalian answered cheerfully. "What?!" Clark replied, "I didn't think that was possible! Where did it come from?" "An NIA scientist came up with the formula a few years ago based on research started at LexLabs." Trevalian responded. "After he met with a *sudden accident* I took charge of his discovery to make sure that wouldn't *fall into the wrong hands*. After I parted company with the NIA I simply took it with me." "What do you intend to do with it now?" Lois asked anxiously. "Why I intend to sell it, my dear girl!" Trevalian said blithely. "Intergang has offered me one *billion* dollars for the formula. With that money I will be able to go *anywhere* and to do *anything.* And when Intergang uses the synthetic Kryptonite to destroy that *overgrown boy scout* no one will be able to stop me. It's a *fool-proof plan*." "Don't be too sure about that," Clark said pointedly. "Superman *could* capture you before you turned that formula over to Intergang." "Yes, I suppose that is a possibility," Trevalian admitted. "But to do that, Superman would have to know about the formula and the sale," he countered. "I can assure you *I'm* not about to alert him. And I'm afraid that in a few minutes none of you will be able to contact him or anyone else for that matter. Isn't that right Jamie?" "Right boss," Jamie said with an evil smile as he raised his weapon again and pointed it at Clark. "Well then, lunch is in a few minutes and cook is preparing Hasenpfeffer, one of my favorite dishes. It's a pity that none of you will be able to join me, the man is a true *artist*. Ah well, c'est la vie," Trevalian said nonchalantly as he lifted his massive bulk out of the chair, and began lumbering towards the door. "Jamie, they're all yours," he called over his shoulder. As Jamie's finger moved towards the trigger, Ortega suddenly cried out, "Wait Senor Trager,.. I mean... Senor Trevalian. Please wait!" Trevalian stopped. Turning back to face the group, he slowly approached Ortega. "What do you want *little man*!?" he growled. "Senor, I have been an.. an... *admirer* of yours,... I mean *Preston Trager*..., for a very long time... You have done wonderful things here in Corto Maltese..and I..." Ortega began hesitantly. "Yes?.." Trevalian replied impatiently. "And I can understand why you might feel the need to resolve your disagreement with Senor Olsen and the others violently," Ortega continued. "But there is no need for you to involve *me* in this resolution. Particularly when I can perform a *valuable* service for you." "What!?" Sandoval interjected. "I cannot believe this! Roberto, you are beneath comtempt!" "Shut-up you old fool! You may feel that it is necessary to die with these *gringos*, but I am not willing to sacrifice myself," Ortega replied angrily. Then, turning his back on Sandoval and the others he spoke directly to Trevalian. "Might I be allowed to explain myself, senor." "Certainly, Roberto, please continue," Trevalian said, "you *intrigue* me. Exactly what kind of *valuable service* can you provide." Ortega smiled. "I will be *evidence*." "Evidence? What kind of evidence?" Trevalian asked. "It is very simple, Senor Trevalian," Ortega answered. "If our work party simply vanishes, there will be a huge investigation of this entire area. Hundreds of people will search this jungle hoping to find some clue to our disappearance." "I realize that," Trevalian replied, "and while I hate the thought of the disruption, it simply can't be helped." (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:39:46 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me -- Part 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Just what were you trying to do back there!" Lois whispered angrily after they reached the spring and began to slowly fill the canteens. "I know Jack needed medical attention, but your secret could have been discovered during that little face off with Jamie!" "I realize that honey, but.. Jack's life was at stake!...I couldn't just sit around! I had to do something!... *anything*!" Clark replied in a hoarse whisper. "But did you have to do something that was so risky? It's just not like you!" Lois asked with concern. "It's.... just this... whole situation is so..so...so aggravating! The last time I felt this frustrated was when we were held hostage by those terrorists at the Planet!" Clark replied, his voice tight with pent up anger. Lois sighed. "That's what this is really about isn't it?" she asked. "I never realized how much that whole incident bothered you. I have to admit I behaved pretty badly that night. Belittling you and then cuddling up to *Lex*." Lois shuddered slightly at the mention of Luthor's name. "I'm sorry," she said sincerely. "But you shouldn't let what happened that night influence your judgment now. You always tell me *what's past is past* remember?." "Honey, what happened at the Planet that night is not why I'm acting or feeling this way," Clark replied. "It's not?" Lois asked skeptically as she brushed a wayward lock of hair out of Clark's eyes. "All right, maybe it is," Clark conceded with a slight smile, " but it's not the *only* reason." Sighing heavily, he gently caressed Lois's bruised cheek. "Whenever something like this happens it just makes me wonder what good are my powers, all the remarkable things I can do, if I can't protect the people I care about the most?" "I know, sweetheart, It just doesn't seem fair somehow, does it?" Lois replied. Clark nodded in agreement. "I'm just not going to stand idly by and let you get hurt again! Even if it means that everyone here finds out about *you know who*," Clark said firmly. "Don't worry, it won't come to that. We're getting out of this situation *soon*," Lois said reassuringly. "What makes you so sure, honey? Have you got a plan?" Clark asked hopefully. "I've got *something*," Lois whispered cryptically. "Just x-ray my right pants' pocket." "What?!" Clark replied. "Shssh, not so loud! Those guys may not speak English, but I still don't want to attract their attention," Lois answered as she glanced at the three guards resting over in the shade. "Now, just x-ray my pocket!" Clark gave Lois a perplexed look and then scanned her pocket with his x-ray vision. "What the..!" he exclaimed "You've got some of the detonator caps! How did you manage that!? Wasn't Mike with you when you got the medical kit?!" "He was," Lois replied with a wicked grin. "But our earlier *encounter* made him a little nervous about being alone with me. He gave me plenty of space, which gave me the chance to grab a few detonators." Clark returned Lois's grin. "Those detonators may be small but they pack quite a punch. They could give us just the chance we need, *if* we can set them off at the proper time. The only questions are where and when," he responded. "I've got an idea or two about that," Lois answered. "I think..." but before she could complete her thoughts, another gang member entered the clearing and ran over to the shady spot where the three guards were resting. The new man and the leader of the guards exchanged some terse words in Spanish and then all four men suddenly turned and approached Lois and Clark with their weapons drawn. "Uh oh," Lois said tensely, "what's wrong now? Did they overhear us and figure out what we were planning somehow!? Should we make a run for it!?" "No, no, that's not it," Clark whispered. "Jamie's just issuing orders again. He wants us back at the clearing right away. So, as much as I'd like to make a break for it, I think we'd better cooperate. It's the only way we can be sure that the others are safe. Besides we still need to find out who, or what is behind all this." Lois nodded in agreement and quickly helped Clark pick up the rest of the canteens. Then the group walked back to edge of the clearing where Jamie, Mike and the rest of the gang members were waiting. "Well, it looks like our *hero* and his girlfriend have finally decided to join the party," Jamie said sarcastically. "What kept you?" "We needed some water for Jack," Clark explained as he knelt down next to Jimmy and gave Jack the pain killers from the medical kit and some water. "Look *hero*, I told you we're on a tight schedule and I'm not in the mood for any more trouble from you," Jamie said menacingly. "Now have you finished patching up Olsen ?!" "More or less, but we still need to ..." Clark began. "Good," Jamie interrupted. "Then get him on his feet and let's move it!" "What!?" Lois exclaimed, "Are you crazy?! He can't walk in his condition!" "Well then I guess one of you will just have to carry him! Unless of course... you want to leave him here," Jamie sneered as he fingered the handle of the gun stuck in his belt. "Perhaps that would be for the best?" Ortega interjected. "After all we do not wish to slow these gentlemen down." Sandoval gave Ortega a look of contempt. "Be quiet you fool," he ordered. Suitably chastened Ortega fell silent and drifted to the back of the group. "We have no intention of leaving Senor Olsen behind," Sandoval announced. "He will come with us, even if I have to carry him *myself*." "There's no need for that," Jack replied as he struggled to his feet with assistance from Jimmy and Clark. Grimacing in pain, he leaned on Jimmy for support. "With a little help I should be able to make it." "Don't worry Dad, you've got some," Jimmy said as he gave Jack a wink and a small smile and then wrapped his arm around his father's waist. Clark nodded in agreement and then quickly placed his arm around Jack's shoulder, carefully shifting his position until was carrying the bulk of Jack's weight. "I'm glad you're all being so cooperative," Jamie replied with a smirk. Returning to the front of his men, he then called back to Jack and the others over his shoulder. "But I'm warning you Olsen, you'd better not slow us down! Not if you know what's good for you!" ____________________________________ Jamie set a blistering pace through the dense jungle growth but with Clark's *super* help Jack was able to keep up with the rest of the group as they made their way to the riverbank. When the group finally arrived at the river, three large rubber boats similar to the ones used by the military for staging amphibious assaults were waiting for them in the shallow waters just off the bank. As he helped Jack get situated into the second boat, Clark noticed that Jamie and Mike were engaged in a heated *conversation* in a clearing about 75 yards away from the rest of the group. Curious about what the gang leader could be discussing with his chief henchman, Clark adjusted his hearing so he could pick up their tête-à-tête. ".....but why can't I just take a few of the men on the overland route and meet you at the Plantation?" Mike complained. "I told you before, it'll take too much time and the boss wants us back pronto!" Jamie responded. "But I hate boats! I get motion sickness! Just looking at the water makes me sick!" Mike whined. "Look, you're not going to get sick! The river's as smooth as glass!" Jamie countered angrily. "So quit your belly-aching and get in that boat before I decide to make you swim back!" After a few moments of hesitation, Clark saw Mike nod in agreement and follow Jamie back to the first boat. Once Jamie and Mike had boarded, all three boats slowly pulled away from the shore, and began making their way up the river. A few minutes into the trip Lois leaned closer to Clark. "Okay, I saw the *look* on your face a few minutes ago, what did you overhear?" she whispered. "Nothing important, just a little background information about Mike," Clark replied with a mischievous twinkle in his eyes. "But when I put it to use, I should be able to provide our *friends* in that first boat with a *very interesting* trip *and* it might give us the edge we'll need when we finally make our move." "What exactly do you mean?" Lois asked warily. "Don't worry honey, just sit back and enjoy the show," Clark said with a slight smile, as he repositioned himself so that he had an unobstructed view of the boat containing Jamie and Mike. Lois watched as Clark carefully directed a puff of his super breath at the first boat and it began to bob furiously up and down in the water. Lois smiled. "You're right. This will be *very interesting*. Too bad we don't have any popcorn." she said as she snuggled in closer to Clark. (Continued) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:41:19 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me -- Part 12 (Finish) "But senor, if I am alive, I can tell the authorities that we were attacked by bandits and that I was the only survivor. I will be *living proof*. That way there will be no need for an official investigation and you life will be undisturbed." "You do have a point," Trevalian admitted. "But what would you want in return for your role as *evidence*?" he asked warily. "Nothing, nothing at all... except,.. perhaps a *small* stipend," Ortega said timidly. "Well, Roberto," Travalian announced after a few moments of silence, "you have certainly presented me with an interesting proposition. But I hope you understand that I will expect your *full cooperation* in this endeavor." "Of course, Senor. I will *fully* cooperate!" Ortega said eagerly. "Good I'm very glad to hear that," Trevalian responded as he pulled a small caliber handgun out of his pocket and pointed it at Ortega. "Senor Trager.. uh Trevalian!? What are you doing?!" Ortega exclaimed. "Well, my dear Roberto, in my business the only time one can be assured of *full cooperation* from an associate is when the associate is *dead*," Trevalian said coolly. "So you might say I'm facilitating your cooperation." "But, you can't! I...." Ortega began. Trevalian cut the protest short by firing a single shot, which struck Ortega right between the eyes. As blood gushed from the small entry wound, Ortega's head jerked back, then as if pulled by an invisible string he fell forward. Lois, Clark and the others stood nearby in stunned silence as Ortega's lifeless body collasped at Trevalian's feet. "Now that we've taken care of that matter, I trust there will be no more interruptions," Trevalian announced as he gracefully stepped over Ortega's body. "And Jamie, I would suggest that after you finish here you take the bodies to..." "Actually there is one *more* thing," Lois interjected. "And exactly what might that *be* Ms. Lane!?" Trevalian asked angrily as he pointed his gun directly at her. "This had better be *important* and not just an attempt to delay us in hopes that Superman will come to your rescue!" "No, no, I know it's too late for that," Lois said evenly. "I just wanted to ask if you might grant a last request." "Well what is it?" Trevalian asked gruffly. "I want to kiss Clark goodbye," Lois replied softly as a single tear rolled down her face. "Oh," Trevalian said after a few moments of silence. "Well, I suppose there's no harm in allowing you to share one last moment together. But after that there will be no more delays! My lunch is getting cold." Lois nodded and moved to Clark's side. "Honey, what's going on?" Clark whispered with concern. "Shsssh, don't worry everything will be all right," Lois whispered back. As they moved away from the group and closer to the fireplace, she continued to speak in a voice only Clark could hear. "Just remember, I get a crack at either Jamie or Mike, you can't have all the fun!" Clark gave Lois a small smile and took her hands in his, which allowed her to secretly slip him one of the detonators from her pocket. Clark crumpled the small paper container, allowing the explosive powders within it to mix. Then he quickly tossed it into the raging fire, making sure as he did to shift their positions so that his body would bear the brunt of the explosion. "I love you Clark." Lois whispered as she wrapped her arms around his neck and pulled him into a close embrace. "I love you too, honey," Clark murmured against her lips, "and you can have Jamie. I'll make sure he's still standing when the party's over." As their lips met there was a loud explosion and the fireplace belched thick, acrid smoke, which enveloped the room and its occupants. The smoke blinded everyone but Clark, who amid the noise and confusion that followed, intercepted the stray bullets fired by Trevalian's men and then used his super strength and speed to disarm and subdue most of the gang members, making it appear that they had collided with each other in the panic caused by the explosion. Then at superspeed he dashed to the verandah, and quickly disabled the remaining gang members, making sure to drag their unconscious bodies into the smoke filled room as well, so it would appear that they had succumbed to their own ineptness when they attempted to aid their compatriots. The room gradually began to clear. Bleary eyed and still gasping for air, Jamie and Trevalian surveyed the fallen bodies of their men, and came to the sudden realization that they were alone, and therefore outnumbered by Lois, Clark and the other members of the work team. "Ah jeez! What the hell happened?" Jamie asked hoarsely. "I'll tell you what happened, you cretin! Trevalian croaked. "Your men are so clumsy the ran into each other! The Keystone Kops would make better bodyguards!" "That's what you get for hiring your mercenaries out of the Yellow Pages," Jack quipped. "Look's like the game is over for you two." "*I* don't think so! Not as long as I have this!" Jamie replied as he pulled his handgun from his waist band. "Now I'm getting out of here! And I'm taking the babe with me to make sure the rest of you back off," Jamie yelled as he reached for Lois. "No!" Lois replied, "*I* don't think so!" And she deftly grabbed Jamie by the arm, spun him around and shoved him into a nearby end table. Both Jamie and a large vase that had been resting on the table crashed to the floor and the vase shattered into hundreds of pieces. "That Ming Dynasty vase was over 500 years old! It was one of a kind, a 15th century masterpiece," Trevalian exclaimed. "Well, now it's 20th century junk," Lois observed wryly. "As I was saying, the game is *over*," Jack declared firmly as he picked up one of the gang members' discarded weapons and pointed it at Trevalian. "It would appear that you are correct, Jack," Trevalian replied as he slowly raised his hands above his head. "But," he sighed, "it was fun while it lasted. I suppose you'll be turning me over to the authorities now?" Jack gave a wolfish grin and nodded affirmatively. "How dull," Trevalian replied with a bored shrug. "This has been great, Dad!" Jimmy said excitedly. "Not only have I finally gotten to see you in action, but we beat the bad guys without Superman's help. That is just *totally cool*!" "Speaking of Superman," Trevalian interjected, "haven't you forgotten something?" "Oh, that's right," Jack replied. "The synthetic Kryptonite formula. Hand it over." "To do that I'd have to lower my hands. Do you want to take that risk, Jack?" Trevalian taunted. Jack hesitated for a few seconds, "Don't worry Dad," Jimmy said as he moved within an arm's length of Trevalian, "I'll search him." "NO Jimmy! " Jack, Lois and Clark cried in unison. Despite his bulk, Trevalian sprang forward with lightning fast reflexes and nabbed Jimmy by the throat. Then out of his sleeve pocket he produced a derringer and pointed it directly at Jimmy's head. "Looks like I still have a few more moves to make before this game is *over*, Jack," he gloated. "Now I would advise all of you to stay perfectly still if you want to keep young Mr. Olsen alive and well." "Let him go, Trevalian! It's me you want not him!" Jack shouted. "Nonsense, my boy. You'd make a terrible hostage. Far too resourceful even in your weakened condition. Besides who would I match wits with after I got rid of you," Trevalian replied. "No, young James is the perfect *disposable* traveling companion for this particular trip." And with the gun steadily aimed at Jimmy, Trevalian inched his way to the french doors. "Give it up Trevalian," Clark said as he moved in a little closer. "You've no where to run to." "I said *stay back*!" Trevelian snarled as he pressed the gun to Jimmy's temple. "At this range I can't miss!" And kicking the french doors open, Trevalian and Jimmy slowly backed outside. For tense minutes Trevalian held Jack, Lois and Clark at bay as he made his way across the patio. Then suddenly, as they neared the edge of the pool, Jimmy slammed his foot down on Trevalian's instep and the rammed his elbow into his captor's massive stomach. Caught off balance, Travelian dropped his gun and tumbled head first into the pool creating a tremendous splash that drenched Jimmy and the others. "Jimmy, are you all right!?" Jack asked anxiously as he limped to his son's side. "I'm fine Dad," Jimmy announced as he gave Jack a hug. "But I think I'm *really* ready to go back to Metropolis." ___________________________________________ One week later, Lois and Clark, Jimmy and Perry waited outside of the Daily Planet building in the warm spring sunshine as Jack walked up the sidewalk. Despite the fact that his right arm was in a sling and he was limping, Jack looked relaxed and happy, as he carried a medium sized cardboard box under his good arm and gave the group a bright smile. "Gee, Dad let me have that!" Jimmy declared as he took the box from under Jack's arm. "You really shouldn't try to do so much, you're still recovering from everything that happened in Corto Maltese." "That's right Jack," Lois admonished. "You need to rest more. I don't even know why you insisted on coming down to the Planet, we could have met at the restaurant for lunch. It would have saved you the trip." "I'm afraid that I can't make lunch," Jack said. "You mean you've got a new assignment already?!" Jimmy exclaimed. "Something like that," Jack answered. "I've just been made the acting Director of Covert Operations at the NIA." "But Dad, I thought you didn't want a desk job," Jimmy said. "I thought so too, son. But now that Singer has resigned the Agency needs a person with experience in the position and it looks like that person is me. Besides I'm getting too *old* for field work," Jack said with a wry smile. "Congratulations, Jack," Clark said warmly. "I can't think of a better man for the job." "I couldn't agree more," Lois added. "Particularly since your new position guarantees we'll get our *exclusive* interview with the DCO. Right, Jack?" "Right Lois. A deal's a deal," Jack replied with an affectionate smile. "Come down to Washington anytime, my door is always open to you and Clark. In fact if you ever get tired of the newspaper business, I'm sure I could find a place for you in the NIA." "Hey now, cut that out, Jack," Perry interjected jovially. "I've got a hard enough time trying to stop my competition here in Metropolis from stealing Lois and Clark. Don't tell me I'll have to start fighting off the U.S. Government too." Jack laughed. "Well you can blame a guy for trying, Perry. Having these two on your team is almost as good as having *Superman*," he said sincerely. "And speaking of Superman, I have something I'd like you to give him." Jack reached into his pocket and pulled out a floppy disk. "It got a little damp when it fell in the pool with Trevalian so that may have damaged the information," he said as he handed it to Clark. "But just the same I'd feel better if he had *this*. I know it'll be safe with him." Clark gave Jack a warm smile. "Thanks Jack, I'll make sure he gets it right away. And by the way, I got a call from Minister Sandoval this morning, and he wanted me to thank you." "Thank me? For what?" Jack asked. "Well apparently the Cordova Dam project's location has been shifted to that spot on the Quinada Plantation. Which means the Xinatocha ruins will be saved," Clark replied. "I guess he assumes that you're responsible for the change since the plantation is NIA property." Jack flushed a little with embarrassment. " Well, it only seemed right. Trevalian caused a lot of trouble down there," he said sheepishly. Lois gave Jack a wry grin. "Well, well, well, Jack. You certainly are full of surprises," she said as she gave him a slight peck on the cheek. "Why, Lois, does this mean you've changed your opinion about me?" Jack asked. "Let's just say I've discovered that there are uses for rancid butter," Lois replied jokingly. The group's laughter was interrupted by the beeping of a car horn. "That's my ride. I'd better be going," Jack said. Reaching over to Jimmy he pulled him into a warm hug. "Good-bye son. I expect to see you in Washington for a visit *real soon*. No excuses now, it's only a couple of hours away." "No excuses, Dad. I'll be there," Jimmy replied as he gave his father another hug. Jack turned back to face Lois and Clark. "Before I go I've got some things for you two. Just little thank you gifts for everything you did." "Jack you didn't have to do that. We had a great time and got a great story out of it," Clark said sincerely. "That's right, Jack," Lois agreed. "Even though I love presents, you didn't have to get us anything." "Well it's too late now. You'll have to take them. I'm leaving town and I don't have time to return them," Jack announced with a sly smile. "Jim, could you give Lois and Clark that box." Jimmy handed the box to Clark and as Clark peered inside his mouth dropped open. There tied in a bright red ribbon was *his* autographed baseball, the one he had sold to buy Lois's Christmas gift a few months ago. "Lois, it's my Steve Bradley baseball!" Clark exclaimed. "Clark that's impossible! It was sold the next day. We've spent months looking for it so we could buy it back remember! But it disappeared off the face of the earth just like Aunt Kate's bracelet," Lois asserted. "I know, Lois, but this is *it*. I'd know it anywhere," Clark replied. "What else is in the box?" Lois asked anxiously. "Just this," Clark replied as he handed her a small jewelry case. Lois's hands shook slightly as she opened the case. "Clark, I can't believe it! It's *Aunt Kate's* ruby and pearl bracelet! The one I sold last Christmas! But how?!" "I told you. I've got my sources," Jack replied, then he jumped in the sleek black sports car, gave the beautiful blonde driving it a kiss on the cheek and sped away down the busy Metropolis street. The End (July 1997) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 20:11:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: copy: Information follows On Wed, 13 Aug 1997 00:17:06 -0400 The Zoomway writes: >In a message dated 97-08-12 15:25:21 EDT, fchisham@INDIANA.EDU writes: > ><< One other thing about this list, please no nfanfic as there > may be some persons under the age of 18 subscribed. > This list is for general information like "LOISCLA is > down, again." or if someone wants to post their fanfic, > they can do it freely, and there is no moderator so > anything can get posted (but it will not be edited). >> > >How about raunchy innuendo? ;) Sorry, Zoom, but apparently raunchy innuendo(e?)s aren't allowed, either. I was threatened with "more than a warning" if I ever post anything like the TSCG advertisement to this list again. Carol A. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 22:44:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Margaret Brignell Subject: FAQ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Now that the list is alive:) I was wondering if there's a FAQ for the list (I know, I know, who's been on long enough to ask enough questions to need a FAQ) However, since obviously some people didn't know the list was non-nfic, perhaps a list of the basic rules might help:) [Sorry if there has already been such a thing, if there was I must have missed it.] Margaret ****************************** Margaret Brignell brignell@capitalnet.com Ottawa, Canada %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% My fanfic now available at: http://www.capitalnet.com/~brignell/ ****************************** ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 06:07:58 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Re: Come Spy With Me -- Part 12 (Finish) Unfortunately I found a typo in the last part. For those of you still reading the paragraph should read as follows: <> Thanks, Eileen ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 11:01:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "B.B. Medos" Subject: Re: FAQ? In a message dated 97-08-14 05:18:36 EDT, brignell@CAPITALNET.COM (Margaret Brignell) writes: << Now that the list is alive:) I was wondering if there's a FAQ for the list (I know, I know, who's been on long enough to ask enough questions to need a FAQ) However, since obviously some people didn't know the list was non-nfic, perhaps a list of the basic rules might help:) >> Well, I've got a pertinent question that can be the first one in the FAQ. How long is too long for a discussion list fanfic posting? In other words, what's the rule-of-thumb guideline for when a story needs to be broken into parts for on this list? I did notice in the past when Rhen sent out stories, the parts were usually not much longer than around seven pages, text file format, and I'm assuming she either had some sort of guideline to word from originally or figured it out from experience. Would that length work here? Beverly :-) B.B. Medos bebe4lc@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 13:36:08 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: FAQ? In a message dated 97-08-14 12:29:35 EDT, BeBe4LC@AOL.COM (B.B. Medos) writes: << Well, I've got a pertinent question that can be the first one in the FAQ. How long is too long for a discussion list fanfic posting? In other words, what's the rule-of-thumb guideline for when a story needs to be broken into parts for on this list? >> Well, I'd suggest no longer than 30K (how many pages is that?) because much more than that and AOL will convert the message into a file that you have to download. It's annoying to be able to read parts 1 through 3, then 4 is too long, then 5 and 6 are okay because you have to download 3 convert it and read it before you can go back to the flow of parts 5 and 6. Eileen's story didn't have this problem, so she must have stopped each part before AOL's arbitrary cutoff. Zoom (just a suggestion) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:05:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "B.B. Medos" Subject: Re: FAQ? In a message dated 97-08-14 13:36:51 EDT, Zoomway@AOL.COM writes: << Well, I'd suggest no longer than 30K (how many pages is that?) because much more than that and AOL will convert the message into a file that you have to download. It's annoying to be able to read parts 1 through 3, then 4 is too long, then 5 and 6 are okay because you have to download 3 convert it and read it before you can go back to the flow of parts 5 and 6. Eileen's story didn't have this problem, so she must have stopped each part before AOL's arbitrary cutoff. >> I saved each section of her story into a plain text file and the largest is Section 3 at slightly less than 20 KB and that's with both list headers and internet footers still included. Pages still to be determined but the KB helps. And speaking of sections of her story, I still haven't gotten section 4? Is it lost in cyberspace? Beverly :-) B.B. Medos bebe4lc@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:16:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: FAQ? In-Reply-To: <970814160339_-1068762641@emout02.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone! Gee, I go on vacation for a week and come back to find that a fanfic listserv has been set up in my absense. Way to go! I'm happy to be a part of it. So, my next question therefore is ... what have I missed?!? Sounds like someone (Eileen?) has distributed a story recently. Any chance I can get the parts that have gone out already? (How much time have I missed, anyway? Just a week, right? Or more?) Have there been other stories that have gone out or is this the first one? Yes, yes, I'm a trouble maker. Also, is there going to be a header in the subject line of each message I get from this list? Farah, I remember you were able to set up the temporary LOISCLA list with "LOISCLA" in the subject automaticallly. Can we do this here, too? Maybe "FANFIC" or "FANFIC LISTSERV" or something like that? I noticed that the subject line recently has been "FAQ". If there is already an FAQ that has been set up, I apologize for asking these questions and not reading it first. If one is in the process of being set up ...well, add my questions to the list. Any info would be appreciated. :) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net Family Pictures: http://www.toolcity.net/~kbrown/ KathyB on the IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 16:53:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: A matter of "content" I think that maybe what goes and what doesn't as far as "steam" should be established. We all know there's a big difference between nfic and regular fanfic, but some fanfic has had nice steamy (though PG-13) scenes in the past. Even the series had some serious innuendo like the "You missed!" scene at the end of Sex, Lies, and Videotape. Should the rule be "if it was fair on the series, it's fair on the list"? Again, I'm not talking about explicit scenes, that's definitely nfic, but I've had stories, usually for humor's sake, that were loaded with innuendo, but nothing graphic, because I certainly don't write nfic. I'm just asking because I wouldn't want to post something that might be construed as inappropriate for this particular list. Help me out here, guys Zoom (loved your story, btw, Eileen. It was a great distraction on the plane, kept me from contemplating becoming a hurtling fireball at 30,000 feet ;) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:24:41 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Frantz Subject: Re: FAQ? In a message dated 97-08-14 16:06:22 EDT, Beverly writes: << I saved each section of her story into a plain text file and the largest is Section 3 at slightly less than 20 KB and that's with both list headers and internet footers still included. Pages still to be determined but the KB helps. >> OK....a computer nerd here....I saved each of her stories individually....I didn't know how big you could make a plain text file....one time (months ago) I had saved a bunch of stuff (actually it was AJ's Quote Book file) to 1 text file and it got so big that I couldn't open it with anything!!! I figured when I filled something up so much that Wordbook would stop allowing me to cut and paste to the file...but....anyway...anyone know how big a text file can be? Kathy ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:50:11 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Demona Subject: Re: A matter of "content" In-Reply-To: <970814165207_687067491@emout05.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:53 PM 8/14/97 -0400, Zoom wrote: >I think that maybe what goes and what doesn't as far as "steam" should be >established. We all know there's a big difference between nfic and regular >fanfic, but some fanfic has had nice steamy (though PG-13) scenes in the >past. Even the series had some serious innuendo like the "You missed!" scene >at the end of Sex, Lies, and Videotape. Should the rule be "if it was fair on >the series, it's fair on the list"? Well, I can give you the same answer that Rhen, saint, mother and keeper of the PG-Fanfic list all those years running gave me when I asked her a similar question: she said something to the effect that... If you could feasibly walk into a supermarket and pick up a romance novel from their shelves and find it [your content] in there, then it's usually safe enough to send to the regular fanfic list. Now that was RHEN's fanfic list, and that allowed for a generous amount of steam as well as innuendo, much the same way the series did. I'll post a portion of MY own fanfic here which made it onto the regular fanfic list eons ago And you can judge for yourselves. *This* list is Farah's baby so I suppose what she says goes, though if we try to chasten every single innuendo, we're liable to end up with a quiet list Anyway, this was rated PG-13 enough for Rhen...(And I've purposly chosen it because it's treads close to the line :) << Lois stared up at her partner for only a fraction of a second before responding. "I say..." She moved forward like a cat, taking his head in her hands, she drew him towards her and kissed him deeply. As their lips parted, Clark pressed his forehead against hers and whispered her name softly. Then, moving down, he recaptured her mouth with his own. His tongue found easy passage into the warm cavity which she opened as she met him, eagerly, hungrily. It was like falling into a bottomless pit. Except that the falling was the best part. Lois felt a tingling sensation coursing through her whole body, causing her to shiver involuntarily. Sensing her response, Clark pulled her up against him, deepening their kiss, and Lois moaned as she felt his hot hands slide up and undo the zipper which ran from her mid back to her tailbone, taking great care to trail one finger down her spine as he went. Lois' head tipped back and she groaned softly, as Clark trailed kisses down from her neck to the line of her dress in front. With his hands, he explored the sensitive muscles on her back, gently reaching up to undo the clasp that held her bra, and then realizing that there wasn't one. Lois could sense the rate of Clark's breathing increase, she felt limp, as though she were melting into his arms...>> (This is, um, where I **cut** that scene off for Rhen's PG list because the unedited story was NFIC ) Anyway, that was just my .02 ... Use it if/as you will ;) Take Care ! Demi (We're looking into an NFIC listserv at the moment too btw ) _________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://www.wiznet.ca/~demona --- L&C Site http://www.netforward.com/cryogen/?LNC --- "Never underestimate the power of a star filled sky on a warm tropical night" - Perry White a la Zoomway _________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 19:11:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Annette Ciotola Subject: Eileen's stroy Hi guys Is there a part 4 to your story, Eileen? If so I didn't get it. Anne ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 21:58:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: from list owner! Okay, I feel this deserves a public apology. My e-mail server told me that I was replying privately to Farah. I regret that this was made public (I speak, of course, of the reply to Farah that was posted to the entire list). I am TRULY sorry. : ( Sincerely, Carol A. Addison Editor, TSCG > >On Tue, 12 Aug 1997 19:37:17 -0500 Farah Meitzen Chisham > writes: >>I think its great to publish a work of fanfic, but not nfanfic. I >don't care >>what kind of words aren't or are published this is still NFANFIC. >> >>Anymore postings like this will get more than a warning. >>I am sorry, I don't mean to be harsh on this but I specifically asked >>for nothing to be posted about nfanfic or actual nfanfic >>stories posted. Thanks folcs! >> >>farah >>fchisham@indiana.edu >> >>>Okay, you've probably all heard of THROUGH SUPER-COLORED GLASSES by >>now, >>>the fanzine for devoted fans of LOIS & CLARK: THE NEW ADVENTURES OF >>>SUPERMAN. Well, TSCG wants YOUR FANFIC/FANPOEMS/FANSONGS (known as >>>filks)! The lustier, the better, although this fanzine does NOT >>print >>>vulgar language, such as c***, p****, f***....You get the idea. If >>you >>>have read Meg Lawson's story, "THE FIRST NIGHT," that is EXACTLY >>>what I'm looking for as far as limits on sexual content. Anything >>>more....WEELL, I'll have to see. >>>OH! I almost forgot the most important thing! This fanzine ALSO >>needs >>>ARTWORK! The same applies: the lustier, the better! I am having a >>hard >>>time finding someone who draws L&C stuff. I have drawn a picture of >>>long-haired Lois looking mischievous. I'm ashamed of the way it >>turned >>>out, but my friends are urging me to put it in the fanzine, so I'm >>going >>>to. Also, my cover art is Clark's newer glasses with the House of >El >>>emblem in each lens (the "S"). I drew that, as well. So far that's >>all >>>the artwork I've got. I would LOVE to find someone who can do Dean >>Cain >>>justice. I know, that's a TALL order, but a person like that would >>be >>>great to know. >> ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 19:42:45 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Destinyy Subject: Filters/Caveats/Managing Multiple Email Boxes (was Re: FAQ?) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:16 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote: >Also, is there going to be a header in the subject line of each message I >get from this list? Farah, I remember you were able to set up the >temporary LOISCLA list with "LOISCLA" in the subject automaticallly. Can >we do this here, too? Maybe "FANFIC" or "FANFIC LISTSERV" or something >like that? Demi called me up and asked me to post something about this, since I'm the filter-queen {smiles}. The list-mom should be able to re-impliment a caveat system if she wanted to here, however I can talk about filters for future reference and for when you need the feature and the list you are on doesn't have it. If anyone cares. ~;c) Demi and I both use Eudora Pro 3.01, but I know that Netscape Communicator also has a filters feature. With filters, you can tell your mail program to assign a caveat to certain incoming or outgoing mail. A caveat is a word which helps to qualify someone's subject line so that you can tell right away which mail in your IN BOX is regarding which subject. For example: Remember LOISCLA where: TAN = Tangent Here: FIC might = FANFIC In Eudora PRO {even 2.x does this}, on the menu bar, under TOOLS>>FILTERS, you can set yourself up to deliver mail to a specific mailbox you create called FANFIC {as an example}. Then all mail which includes any header containing: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU will be punted in there. If you do not wish to create a new mailbox but you DO want a caveat placed in front of all FANFIC related mail, you use the MAKE SUBJECT feature under FILTERS, and do something like this: You will tell it to look for mail with LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU It will prompt you for what you want to do with that mail. One option will be You put--> FANFIC - [&] Where '&' will insert the already existing subject into the []. So say I send a post to the list called "MY NEW STORY". Your mail subject header will say: FANFIC - [MY NEW STORY] It's automatic and it makes it easier to sort through your box later. What is even more, when you hit "REPLY", it will NOT include the caveat in the reply, so you don't have to worry about it and you can choose anything you like ~;c) If you need help with any of this, you can: Use the HELP on the menu bar of Eudora/Netscape You can email me dsimone@destinyy.com {smiles} or You can pull your hair out in silence! If you would like to try out a copy of Eudora because you think all these filters are such a neat idea, then visit: http://www.eudora.com or www.qualcomm.com and download a free trial version of Eudora PRO to see if you like it. I love Eudora, I think it's great, but I know that some people won't and you can always try out Netscape Communicator too if you're looking for a good email program which has filters. If you're already using Netscape Communicator for your email, and you're having problems with filters, you can email me too and I'll try to help you, though I don't use it that often. I --do-- know how to use it and I can always start it up and jot down a few instructions for anyone interested! All in all, filters are a great idea. They really help you organize your mail and when you're on more than one listserv, it can get TOUGH! I have about 6 mailboxes myself, and I think Demi has even more but then again she has one for each of her fanfic stories too {smiles} Now on to everyone who is hanging their heads because: "I have AOL and I can't ever use any mail features to organize my box, it sux!" ;c) No it doesn't! BPS Co. software has one of several AOL-ADD-ON tools which can really help with your mail organization! Here are two programs you can look into. POWERTOOLS 3.6 (Windows 3.11 - AOL 3.0) 7.x (Windows 95 AOL for Windows95) POWERMAIL (Two versions as well, one for Win95 and one for Win 3.1) Take it from a WBVL remote staffer, FoLCs, these programs are a godsend with organization!! With Powermail, you can create multiple email boxes and manage all your mail that way. You can even use a signature, all of that fun stuff! Check out KEYWORD: BPS on AOL. No they don't pay me for this {smiles} But not many people know about it. PowerTools also lets you manage your IMs, you can block only CERTAIN people from IMing you, and you can create an AUTO-RESPONSE for when you are busy. It makes toast! ~:c) I guess I've rambled on and on for long enough! Feel fancy free to email me if you have more questions about filters or you want to figure out how to get an email program that does more than just grab your mail for you :) Or even just because you want to be my friend! I'm always happy to help if I can. Happy Dreams! ~Destinyy~ +++++~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+++++ Daphne Simone ++~Destinyy~++ WWW.DESTINYY.COM +++++~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+++++ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 20:24:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Eleanor Swimmer Subject: Re: Eileen's stroy Is there a part 6? I never got part 6..... ~~Eleanor, who loves the story:) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 20:52:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Eileen F. Ray" Subject: Come Spy With Me ---Part 4 (repost) I've been told by several people that this part didn't make it so I'm reposting it. During the long and uneventful flight to Corto Maltese, Lois, Clark and Jimmy spent time familiarizing themselves with their cover story and the new identities Jack had prepared for them. The plane finally landed in San Tropez, Corto Maltese's lush and tropical capital city, and following an equally uneventful experience at airport customs, the group made its way to the Hotel Arguila in San Tropez's central district. Lois, Clark, Jimmy, and Jack had just finished registering at the front desk and were heading towards the elevators when they were approached by two men whose subdued dress and demeanor were in stark contrast to the bright colors and garish decor of the hotel lobby: "Senor Jack Olsen of Olsen's Civil Engineering?" the older of the two gentlemen inquired as he carefully scrutinized each member of the group. "Yes?" Jack replied. "Bueno. I'm so pleased you have arrived safely," the older man said as a friendly smile crept over distinguished features. "I am Manuel Sandoval, Deputy Minister for Public Works and this..." Sandoval said as he turned and gestured at the younger man standing behind him, "is my assistant, Roberto Ortega. We've been waiting for you." Jack eyed both men carefully as he shook first Sandoval's then Ortega's outstretched hands. "It's a pleasure to meet you, Minister Sandoval, but I must admit I'm a little surprised to see you here. It's rather late and I wasn't anticipating meeting with any members of your government until Monday morning. Is there a problem of some kind?" "No, no, nothing of the sort," Sandoval said affably. "I apologize for our unexpected presence here at the hotel. I realize that you and your associates must be tired after your long trip. But you must forgive an old man's impatience. Your arrival in Corto Maltese means the culmination of one of my long held dreams..." "You must mean the Cordova Valley Dam project," Clark interjected. "Quite correct, young man," Sandoval replied. "And you are..?" "Now it's my turn to apologize to you and Mr. Ortega," Jack said before Clark could utter another sound. "I've been remiss in my introductions. This is my son Jim." Jack placed his hand on Jimmy's shoulder. "And allow me to introduce David Guthrie, my surveyor," he said as he pointed to Clark, "and this is Rebecca Carr, who is ..." But before Jack could complete his introduction of Lois, Ortega interrupted. "Encantado, Senorita Carr, but surely you do not expect us to believe that a *woman*, particularly one as lovely as yourself is a civil engineer!?" Lois gave Ortega an artificially sweet smile. "Why thank you for the compliments, Senor Ortega. You're quite correct. I'm *not* a civil engineer." "I knew it!" Ortega said smugly, as he reached for Lois's hand and kissed it. "I'm a demolitions expert," Lois replied matter-of-factly, as she maintained the same sweet expression on her face. "One of the best," Clark added. His expression was bland but his eyes danced with laughter as he peered over his sunglasses and met Lois's gaze. Lois, her own eyes twinkling with barely controlled amusement, raised an eyebrow before turning her attention back to Ortega, who was clearly taken aback by Lois's revelation. "Oh..oh.. really," Ortega stammered in response to Clark's statement, as he quickly dropped Lois's hand and eyed her nervously. "How... *interesting.*" After successfully suppressing his own amused grin Sandoval turned back to Jack and the others. "Well," he said, "now that the introductions are complete, perhaps we can get down to business. As you've gathered, Senor Olsen, I would like to meet with you and your colleagues to discuss the Cordova Dam Project as soon as possible. If you're available tonight I'm sure I could arrange to have one of the hotel's conference rooms set aside for our use." Lois spoke up almost immediately. "I think that's a wonderful idea, Jack," she interjected. "Why don't you and Jimmy begin laying the ground work for the meeting with Minister Sandoval and Senor Ortega, while *Dave* and I take the luggage and the equipment up to the rooms. It shouldn't take very long, then we can join you back here in the lobby." "An excellent idea, Senorita Carr," Sandoval replied. "That should minimize any delay and we will be able to get right to work. Don't you agree, Senor Olsen?" Jack looked at Lois suspiciously. "I agree that it would save us some time, Minister Sandoval, but it would be *too* much trouble for *Becky* and *Dave*. I wouldn't feel right about it." "Oh, it's no trouble at all, Jack. Right, *Dave*?" Lois replied hurriedly. Catching Clark's eye, she silently urged him to follow her lead. "Right,...*Becky*." Clark added as he gave Lois a slightly perplexed look. "There's nothing to worry about Jack. We'll take care of everything." "That's what I'm afraid of," Jack mumbled. "Did you say something, Senor Olsen?" Ortega asked. "No, no, nothing at all, " Jack responded hurriedly. Resigned to the fact that he had been successfully outmaneuvered, he turned to Lois and Clark and said, "I guess we'll see you two in a few minutes, " then he and Jimmy accompanied Sandoval and Ortega to the hotel manager's office. As soon as the others had left, Clark turned to Lois. "All right, honey, what the devil was that all about?" he said giving her a look of bewilderment. "Shsssh, lower your voice, you never know who might be listening!" Lois whispered as she cast suspicious glances at the handful of people wandering through the hotel lobby. "What?!" Clark replied. "Never mind," Lois continued in hushed tones as she gave Clark a mischievous smile. "I'll explain upstairs. For now just play along." After looking around the lobby again Lois turned back to Clark and loudly announced, "Well, *Dave* ,since you've got so much stuff you should take the luggage cart." And grabbing her bags from the bell captain she sprinted for the closest elevator. Just before the door closed Lois shouted across to Clark "By the way, *Dave*, I need to talk to you about an equipment problem, so stop by my room as soon as you've put the rest of the gear away." Clark stared after Lois for a few seconds, then he shrugged and turned back to the bell captain. "--You heard the lady--," Clark said Spanish. "--Let's go.--" The bell captain nodded in agreement and he and Clark headed into the waiting elevator car. _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 03:43:22 +0200 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ch. u. D. Schmill" Subject: Re: Filters/Caveats/Managing Multiple Email Boxes; Size of Textfiles In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970814194245.00a99e10@destinyy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Doris Schmill, Berlin, Germany email at "cschmill@zedat.fu-berlin.de" At 19:42 14.08.97 -0400, Destiny wrote: >At 04:16 PM 8/14/97 -0400, you wrote: >>Also, is there going to be a header in the subject line of each message I >>get from this list? Farah, I remember you were able to set up the >>temporary LOISCLA list with "LOISCLA" in the subject automaticallly. Can >>we do this here, too? Maybe "FANFIC" or "FANFIC LISTSERV" or something >>like that? > >Demi called me up and asked me to post something about this, since I'm the >filter-queen {smiles}. The list-mom should be able to re-impliment a >caveat system if she wanted to here, however I can talk about filters for >future reference and for when you need the feature and the list you are on >doesn't have it. If anyone cares. ~;c) > >Demi and I both use Eudora Pro 3.01, but I know that Netscape Communicator >also has a filters feature. With filters, you can tell your mail program >to assign a caveat to certain incoming or outgoing mail. A caveat is a >word which helps to qualify someone's subject line so that you can tell >right away which mail in your IN BOX is regarding which subject. For example: > >Remember LOISCLA where: TAN = Tangent > >Here: FIC might = FANFIC > >In Eudora PRO {even 2.x does this}, on the menu bar, under TOOLS>>FILTERS, >you can set yourself up to deliver mail to a specific mailbox you create >called FANFIC {as an example}. Then all mail which includes any header >containing: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU will be punted in there. > >If you do not wish to create a new mailbox but you DO want a caveat placed >in front of all FANFIC related mail, you use the MAKE SUBJECT feature under >FILTERS, and do something like this: > >You will tell it to look for mail with >LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU > >It will prompt you for what you want to do with that mail. One option will >be > >You put--> FANFIC - [&] > >Where '&' will insert the already existing subject into the []. So say I >send a post to the list called "MY NEW STORY". Your mail subject header >will say: > >FANFIC - [MY NEW STORY] > >It's automatic and it makes it easier to sort through your box later. What >is even more, when you hit "REPLY", it will NOT include the caveat in the >reply, so you don't have to worry about it and you can choose anything you >like ~;c) > >If you need help with any of this, you can: > >Use the HELP on the menu bar of Eudora/Netscape >You can email me dsimone@destinyy.com {smiles} or >You can pull your hair out in silence! > >If you would like to try out a copy of Eudora because you think all these >filters are such a neat idea, then visit: http://www.eudora.com or >www.qualcomm.com and download a free trial version of Eudora PRO to see if >you like it. I love Eudora, I think it's great, but I know that some >people won't and you can always try out Netscape Communicator too if you're >looking for a good email program which has filters. > >If you're already using Netscape Communicator for your email, and you're >having problems with filters, you can email me too and I'll try to help >you, though I don't use it that often. I --do-- know how to use it and I >can always start it up and jot down a few instructions for anyone interested! > >All in all, filters are a great idea. They really help you organize your >mail and when you're on more than one listserv, it can get TOUGH! I have >about 6 mailboxes myself, and I think Demi has even more but then again she >has one for each of her fanfic stories too {smiles} > >Now on to everyone who is hanging their heads because: "I have AOL and I >can't ever use any mail features to organize my box, it sux!" ;c) > >No it doesn't! BPS Co. software has one of several AOL-ADD-ON tools which >can really help with your mail organization! Here are two programs you can >look into. > >POWERTOOLS 3.6 (Windows 3.11 - AOL 3.0) > 7.x (Windows 95 AOL for Windows95) > >POWERMAIL (Two versions as well, one for Win95 and one for Win 3.1) > >Take it from a WBVL remote staffer, FoLCs, these programs are a godsend >with organization!! With Powermail, you can create multiple email boxes >and manage all your mail that way. You can even use a signature, all of >that fun stuff! Check out KEYWORD: BPS on AOL. No they don't pay me for >this {smiles} But not many people know about it. PowerTools also lets you >manage your IMs, you can block only CERTAIN people from IMing you, and you >can create an AUTO-RESPONSE for when you are busy. It makes toast! ~:c) > >I guess I've rambled on and on for long enough! Feel fancy free to email me >if you have more questions about filters or you want to figure out how to >get an email program that does more than just grab your mail for you :) Or >even just because you want to be my friend! I'm always happy to help if I can. > >Happy Dreams! >~Destinyy~ >+++++~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+++++ > Daphne Simone > ++~Destinyy~++ > > > WWW.DESTINYY.COM >+++++~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~+++++ > > Now, since I am new to the internet, I had to get together the necessary software, too, and I downloaded a copy of the free Eudora Light 3.0 for Win 95. When I read Destiny's posting, I checked the tools section of the light version, and it allows you to set up filters, too. (Although I haven't been able to set up those filters yet; that's a fun computer activity for this weekend...) You can download Eudora Light 3.0 from the same website Destiny mentioned for the 30-day trial version of Eudora Pro. I think Eudora Light is out for several platforms, at least Win 95 and Win 3.1x. There was also a posting concerning the possible of text files. I'm not sure about KBs and email, but opening a long regular text file should not be a problem. I only encountered a problem with longer text files with Windows default text editor "Notepad" that cannot open files longer than 60 KB or so, but that could be cured by assigning another text editor to open the file. - Now, I hope that was relevant. Now, I need to figure out myself how to set up those Eudora mailboxes... Take care, Doris ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:17:25 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Want to be published (with no strings attached)? My name is Carol A. Addison. You killed my brother. Prepare to die.... **Soundbite: Needle scratching across record** Sorry, wrong script. Let's try that again.... My name is Carol A. Addison. I am about to publish the first of what I hope will be a very successful string of hard copy L&C fanzine issues. Though I have all the stuff I need for this first issue, I hope to follow with future issues, so I need still more. L&C-related artwork is needed, too. What I get lots of: Nice, WAFFy stuff involving some kind of romantic stuff between L&C--which is great, don't get me wrong. What I'd like to see MORE of: Villain plots, stories about Clark growing up as an outsider in Smallville, stories about Lois Lane's troubled teenage years, wished-for but never seen episodes and/or episode endings, etc. If you have romance to contribute, don't let this ad convince you I don't want it. I'm just trying to get a variety so the fanzine will appeal to a broader spectrum. I know I've advertised a lot, but that's because there are new people signing onto these lists every day, and I don't want to miss anyone. My apologies if you're getting sick of seeing my name and/or the fanzine's name. : } If you are interested in publishing something in my fanzine, be it art or fanfiction (or poetry, or whatever can be put on paper and related to L&C), e-mail me privately at the below address: jvladdisons@juno.com Thank you for allowing me to advertise on this list. Carol A. Addison Editor, THROUGH SUPER-COLORED GLASSES p.s. Unfortunately, I am not prepared to disclose subscription information at this time. I don't have the cost information together, yet. As soon as I know the subscription cost, I will post another advertisement to LOISCLA, this list, and the nfanfic list. Thank you for your understanding and patience--and interest! : ) Carol A (e-address) who needs your fanfic and art for my zine. please write me if you're interested This because you have done a *lot* of advertising already (I seem to see it everywhere... you're *too* good at it). Also, she didn't want you to mention nfanfic. It *is* a private list, but if little kids get the idea of what is needed (they have to say they are over 18) and they get on the list because I must take them at their word... there could be trouble. So I'd say: relax. You have a lot going for you. Don't let little roadblocks crash you. Instead, learn from them how you can do things better. :) Debby Debby@swcp.com trying not to sound 45 years old... really! and who, during her vacation, may get inspired to do some art for you... we'll see :) --------- End forwarded message ---------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:01:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: A matter of "content" Okay, since I'm *probably* the person who inspired this thread, I should probably contribute. : ) On Thu, 14 Aug 1997 17:50:11 -0400 Demona writes: >At 04:53 PM 8/14/97 -0400, Zoom wrote: >>I think that maybe what goes and what doesn't as far as "steam" >>should be established. We all know there's a big difference between >>nfic and regular fanfic, but some fanfic has had nice steamy (though >>PG-13) scenes in the past. Even the series had some serious innuendo >>like the "You missed!" scene at the end of Sex, Lies, and Videotape. >>Should the rule be "if it was fair on the series, it's fair on the list"? I definitely agree with Zoom that some CLEAR lines should be drawn, here. Her above statement about contents of last season's eps is the reason I thought my ad would be okay. I'm really sorry if I offended anyone or tainted any youngsters on this list. > >Well, I can give you the same answer that Rhen, saint, mother and >keeper of the PG-Fanfic list all those years running gave me when I >asked her a similar question: she said something to the effect that... > >If you could feasibly walk into a supermarket and pick up a romance >novel from their shelves and find it [your content] in there, then it's >usually safe enough to send to the regular fanfic list. Um, er, have you read any store-bought romance novels lately? They're pretty detailed, anymore. In fact, they have even MORE innuendo than a lot of the nfanfic I've received from people. OH, well....Picky, picky, picky....I'm learning to take a chill pill about all this stuff.... > >Now that was RHEN's fanfic list, and that allowed for a generous amount >of steam as well as innuendo, much the same way the series did. I'll >post a portion of MY own fanfic here which made it onto the regular >fanfic list eons ago And you can judge for yourselves. > >*This* list is Farah's baby so I suppose what she says goes, though if >we try to chasten every single innuendo, we're liable to end up with a >quiet list No kidding! : ) Not only that, but when I first started attempting romance, I was very timid about the "steam," and my "love scenes" all came out sounding putridly flowery and silly. I couldn't read my own work without snickering, so I dared not show it to anyone else. (This was back when I was into writing about Han Solo and Princess Leia--a LONG time ago!) I will endeavor, though, to write SOMETHING that would be appropriate for the YOUNGEST ears--er, eyes. I am currently working on a story where Clark is at home alone with the kids when a need of discipline occurs--the type of behavior that Lois usually spanks for, but Lois has been called to The Planet. So is Clark's dilemma. That's as far as I've gotten, though, and it's going to take a LONG TIME to develop. Does it sound like a good start to y'all? Whew! Talk about your combo-posts! Sorry this was so long. More later, Carol A. Addison Editor, THROUGH SUPER-COLORED GLASSES p.s. Snipped-to-the-max advertisement for TSCG to follow.... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 23:55:14 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Demona Subject: "content" you say? ;P In-Reply-To: <19970814.231417.12046.6.jvladdisons@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:01 PM 8/14/97 -0400, I wrote: >>If you could feasibly walk into a supermarket and pick up a romance >>novel from their shelves and find it [your content] in there, then it's >>usually safe enough to send to the regular fanfic list. Carol responded: >Um, er, have you read any store-bought romance novels lately? They're >pretty detailed, anymore. In fact, they have even MORE innuendo than a >lot of the nfanfic I've received from people. OH, well....Picky, picky, >picky....I'm learning to take a chill pill about all this stuff.... Good plan Deep breath ;) What that means is that if a run-of-the-mill grocery store will have the book, then it is most probably PG-13 for our times. We have to live in the here and now, and this is most defintely "the 90's" we've heard it all before Some people have more conservative ideas about where the ratings should lie, but you just made a great point to expand on. LATELY, now-a-days, what we consider to be PG has changed dramatically from what was. Popular consensus has to be the rule of thumb, if it would be PG in a movie theatre or on television, then it would be PG here too. If we're talking more stringency than that, I think people can capably police/shelter their 'kids' to greater planes of enlightenment on their OWN should they so desire. ;) If this were a forum dedicated solely to chldren under 12, I'd say okay, pull out the police and lets talk Barney. But it is not, it is a mixed forum where many of the authors are adults from varying backgrounds and interests and that raises both the maturity level of the discussion/stories and content here as well as it raises the awareness of *everyone* who is subscribed. There will **always** be innuendo. Wake up in the morning and try and get through 5 minutes of Saturday CARTOONS without it! LOL So I guarantee you that any young person who subbed themselves to this list, could capably handle a 90's PG conversation. So what's PG-13 in 1997? That has to be the question. I think most of us know the answer to that anyway. And we know what an extreme in either direction would look like. Take Care Demi _________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://www.wiznet.ca/~demona --- L&C Site http://www.netforward.com/cryogen/?LNC --- "Never underestimate the power of a star filled sky on a warm tropical night" - Perry White a la Zoomway _________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:09:00 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Rhen Brink Subject: Hey everyone! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Just a little notice about the "other" fanfic source: I am no long accepting fanfic for the Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive. The archive will no longer be in existence after September 15th. Sorry to disappoint you. Rhen Brink ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 01:01:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Genine E Murray Subject: Re: Hey everyone! Hi Rhen ~ Are you still at least going to leave the site up, so that we may still use it to retrieve fanfic from?!? I really hope so, since I am only about half done with all of the fic's on your site, and I know there are other FoLCs who are just getting started. Please let me/us know... you say the archive won't exist after September 15, does this mean that the site won't either?!? If it is being gotten rid of, I will concentrate on downloading all 500 fic's, but I hope I won't have to. I'll be waiting anxiously to hear your reply. Thanks! :D Genine ~ Clark : "I have loved you from the beginning." Lois : "And I'll love you 'till the end." BGDF, Lois & Clark : The New Adventures of Superman Genine (GemFoLC51@juno.com - SuperGeM on IRC) On Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:09:00 PDT Rhen Brink writes: >Just a little notice about the "other" fanfic source: > >I am no long accepting fanfic for the Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive. >The archive will no longer be in existence after September 15th. > >Sorry to disappoint you. > >Rhen Brink > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 01:51:58 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Demona Subject: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) Comments: cc: loiscla@vm.ege.edu.tr, Debby@swcp.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rhen said: <> I think that we *all* want to applaud Rhen's dedication and long time patience in keeping up the Lois & Clark fanfic archive for so long already :) We love ya Rhenny :) Losing the Fanfic archive would be a sad blow to FoLCdom, however it is understandable that so much fiction could come to consume so much TIME ;) For years now Rhen has been editing, and sending out stories. And it's not easy to keep up! We know many people don't want that to end... Which is why... (We were and still *are* going to be in contact with Rhen and Lauren about this in the next day or so but since Rhen posted already we sort of had to jump in here!) We WILL be setting up a NEW archive site. Some way, some how, we want to save the L&C Fanfic Archive from certain death ;) Tht would be such a shame. But we cannot do this alone! We all have "day jobs" and careers which take us away from FoLCdom on and off, and that is why we're going to try and do this differently than before just a little! The exact name of the site will be disclosed soon... once administration has been taken care of, but as Rhen is testament to, the responsibility is HUGE and we need a select amount of your help! We already have more than enough space to store our files, thanks to Chris - cp13607@aol.com and we have a website standing by to take up the slack of the old archive - thanks to Destinyy - dsimone@destinyy.com Hopefully, pending contact with Lauren, we might even be able to use the same friendly front door format as the old archive :) Crossed fingers and Toes So... what we need now are EDITORS! Several. An editor would be responsible to look at an 'assigned' piece of fanfic, check it for grammar, spelling and for RATING (since the list is PG), remain in contact with the author of the story in case anything needs changing, and then finally, send the completed, edited TXT file to the administrators of the archive to be posted. The reason we want several editors is to share in the load! And all work submitted for posting will be assigned fairly amongst these individuals. If you are interested in editing fanfic or helping in some other capacity which includes WWW expertise, for the archive, please EMAIL: Lnc@cryogen.com And tell us why! :) We want to build a small, dedicated "staff" for the archive because quite frankly, it has a lot of history, a LOT of stories and it deserves that kind of care. If you're interested in being part of the Fanfic staff or helping out in any way, please do contact us ASAP :) We hope to have this working before the old archive shuts its doors, and to make that transition as painless as possible for all concerned :) Here's Hoping! Take Care! Destinyy (Dsimone@destinyy.com) LCFic Online Producer Chris (Cp13607@aol.com) LcFic Site Co-ordinator Kat (KPSpirit@aol.com) LCFic Online Producer Demi (Demi@wiznet.ca) LcFic Jack0Handy ;P ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 05:47:55 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: "content" you say? ;P Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I didn't think this woul be my first message to the new list, but here it is... New Fanfic Idea, free for anyone... (who has a sense of humor, that is) At 11:55 PM 8/14/97 -0400, Demi wrote: >...I think people can capably >police/shelter their 'kids' to greater planes of enlightenment on their OWN >should they so desire. ;) > >If this were a forum dedicated solely to chldren under 12, I'd say okay, >pull out the police and lets talk Barney. Lois and Clark must find a way to stop an evil force (cleverly disguised as a purple, toy-distributing hero to all children) before it conquors the world... After all, Superman distributes toys [SG, HIWTHI, TTNBM] *and* advice about good citizenship, keeping away from gangs and staying in school. "Blarney" passes out the latest Nintendo games and must-have dolls (picture "Tickle me Elmo" here) and dollars-off coupons, without any sermons. (background music: anything reminicent of The Pied Piper of Hamlin) In the meantime, Lois insists she can prepare a classic dinner for her parents and the Kents as well as two important visiting New Kryptonians (hmm, pate de foie gras, corn on the cob, and honey-marinated Gummy Bears...); Clark is struggling with a brief (and innocent, no villain involved) exposure to Red Kryptonite which is making him think he is Elvis Presley's long-lost son who must practice constantly for his first audition; Superman has to keep a very important appointment with an excited Dr. Klein; Jimmy must find another girlfriend or lose a bet with Jack (Jack's back, a trial run for his character); and Perry has his own hands full with romancing Alice (played by Florence Henderson this time) while trying to keep at bay a pretty young (female) assistant (guest to be named; a stunning redhead probably). And that's just the teaser. Debby Debby@swcp.com write me for info about real L&C scripts... ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 21:49:03 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Anne Campbell Subject: Re: Hey everyone! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Do you mean, the site on the Internet where we can read fiction? It will be gone? - Anne Anne B. Campbell Reference Librarian campbell@library.pace.edu Pace University On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Rhen Brink wrote: > Just a little notice about the "other" fanfic source: > > I am no long accepting fanfic for the Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive. > The archive will no longer be in existence after September 15th. > > Sorry to disappoint you. > > Rhen Brink > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:26:39 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Dave Lane Subject: Re: FAQ? In-Reply-To: <970814172314_463841772@emout10.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Howdy all, I have a suggestion or two regarding the sub headers. 1) Use a common caveat for all postings as Kathy has mentioned. Good idea. 2) When submitting multiple part stories, I would ask that you make sure each post has the same header (allowing for the part # to change, of course). For example: FANFIC: Come Spy With Me-- Part 01 FANFIC: Come Spy With Me-- Part 02 FANFIC: Come Spy With Me-- Part 03 ...etc. (good ole Cut 'n Paste ;) This allows email programs (like mine, Eudora) to list them in order when sorted by subject, making them easier to save to a single file. Be sure to use the 01,02,03 numbering format. Just my $0.02. -- Dave "Lane!" - LOISCLA Co-Listowner - GuruDave on IRC mailto:laned@cadvision.com - New Bumper Sticker: "Disney Happens" Boycotting ABC would be more fun if they something worth watching. ABC: It makes the Graph Channel look interesting! ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:22:43 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Rhen Brink Subject: Re: Hey everyone! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It will be gone from the ipahome address as of September 15th - that's one month. After that, maybe Demi will be able to accomodate you. It's tying up approx. 18 MB of space that I can't justify using anymore ... Again, I'm sorry. ReRhen ;) >Hi Rhen ~ > >Are you still at least going to leave the site up, so that we may still >use >it to retrieve fanfic from?!? I really hope so, since I am only about >half done >with all of the fic's on your site, and I know there are other FoLCs who >are >just getting started. Please let me/us know... you say the archive won't >exist >after September 15, does this mean that the site won't either?!? If it >is being >gotten rid of, I will concentrate on downloading all 500 fic's, but I >hope I won't >have to. I'll be waiting anxiously to hear your reply. Thanks! :D > >Genine ~ > >Clark : "I have loved you from the beginning." >Lois : "And I'll love you 'till the end." >BGDF, Lois & Clark : The New Adventures of Superman >Genine (GemFoLC51@juno.com - SuperGeM on IRC) > >On Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:09:00 PDT Rhen Brink writes: >>Just a little notice about the "other" fanfic source: >> >>I am no long accepting fanfic for the Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive. >>The archive will no longer be in existence after September 15th. >> >>Sorry to disappoint you. >> >>Rhen Brink >> > ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:57:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Demona Subject: Fanfic Relocation (Re: Hey everyone!) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:22 AM 8/15/97 PDT, you wrote: >It will be gone from the ipahome address as of September 15th - >that's one month. After that, maybe Demi will be able to >accomodate you. Don't you guys worry! We'll do our best to gather all the current Fanfic resources and Re-Locate. Space isn't a huge problem, but the relocation process and re-organization will take a little time :) Please have patience and again, if you want to help out either as an editor, or as a web staffer: LnC@cryogen.com Take Care Demi (We're workin' on it even as I type ) _________________________________________________ Demi (a.k.a) Demona or http://www.wiznet.ca/~demona --- L&C Site http://www.netforward.com/cryogen/?LNC --- "Never underestimate the power of a star filled sky on a warm tropical night" - Perry White a la Zoomway _________________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:05:58 +0300 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Zohar Gilboa Subject: COMBO: "content" you say?; Klien = Xena; Alice; A little bit depressed..; Rhen's archive; L&C & movies In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19970815054500.090f813c@swcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi all! Big combo, some humor some serious. Just trying to bring a smile to your faces... Just read your post Deb. I think it's a great idea! Maybe we can do a Godzila - L&C crossover. Like they did in LOTF? :-) I also just finnished seeing Toy Story, so your... imaginative of not sick ideas are kind of related. ;-) Also, after seeing the ep tonight, I got to the conclusion that Dr. Klien is really Xena. ;-) How, you say? Well, Xena always wears the same clothes, right? Except when she is being kidnapped by some God or something... :-) Dr. Klien always wears his lab coat thingy. Therefor, he is Xena. With this theory, I also figuered that my dog Sue is also the unicorn from Heroes of Might and Magic, as well as a lot of other mamals (she has skin, you see... :-P ) On to some more serious stuff... :-) In the end of Toy Story today, we see Alice. But a few days ago, I saw Just Say Noah, and it seemed as though Alice's hair was red and curly... Hmmm... Maybe Asabbi helped her transform bodies? :-) I was a little bit depressed after seeing the ep tonight, because it was the almost last ep and everything... Now I actually realise that the series is gone i guess... But we FoLCs aren't! And we have fanfic and clubs and a mailing list and much much more, so it's OK now. *g* I wanted to take this oppertunity to thank Rhen for keeping the archive up that long, even though I didn't use it a lot... I only started reading it now. Because of that, I'm very happy that another archive is taken care of, and I offered 3MB of webspace on my homepage for it. Did anyone notice how much titles in season 4 were after movies? Lord of the Flys (kind of a movie... :-) ) Lethal Weapon sex, lies, and videotape Toy Story Hmmm... Now that I think of it, 4 isn't that much... Oh well.. :-) Zohar Gilboa rami_gil@netvision.net.il ; sman@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2301 Always remember you're unique, just like everybody else. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:20:50 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: Re: A matter of "content" In-Reply-To: <19970814.231417.12046.6.jvladdisons@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 14 Aug 1997, Ethel "Terri" Addison wrote: > Um, er, have you read any store-bought romance novels lately? They're > pretty detailed, anymore. In fact, they have even MORE innuendo than a > lot of the nfanfic I've received from people. OH, well....Picky, picky, You took the words right out of my mouth :) I always wonder why my mother liked to read those stories, and I decided to look at one at Krogers once. Whew! Just look for the pages that don't have " " in them... farah fchisham@indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:26:48 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: Re: A matter of "content" In-Reply-To: <19970814.231417.12046.6.jvladdisons@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > >*This* list is Farah's baby so I suppose what she says goes, though if > >we try to chasten every single innuendo, we're liable to end up with a > >quiet list This is everyone's list. How about we set the standards for it? I am up to suggestion and I have one (see below). We are all smart, just "nothin' dirty" I saw the *very* first post and all I saw was basically "the lustier the better" and I acted out of I guess what a first time parent would do the first time their kid says "stuff-it!" I acted a bit out of proportion of what I should have. Just imagine what would be in Debbie's list and don't put the OHwww-WHEEE! parts in it. I have seen some nfic on Rhen's list that had those parts removed. I just don't want to get in trouble with the "net-police" as someone said to me once. Farah Meitzen Chisham fchisham@indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 16:41:23 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: using an "oldie" to test content ;) okay, as I spoke before of innuendo, I'd say this old short story I wrote is what I'm talking about. Is this story, for example, too strong on innuendo to make the list? LIKE SUPERMAN FOR CHOCOLATE A steamy and sticky revelation story (um, not to be taken seriously....like you would?) By Zoomway Lois tossed and moaned in her sleep. Her confusion over new- found feelings for her friend Clark Kent, and latent fantasies about Superman had begun to manifest themselves in some rather strange dreams. Superman staggered from a steaming hot vat of liquid chocolate. Lois gazed in horror as the gooey confection dripped from his hair, cape and fingertips. "Lois," he said, his voice weak. "There's something in the chocolate draining my powers. You'll have to lick it off before it hardens." Lois' eyes widened with horror as her hero collapsed to the floor. She laid herself upon his sticky body and began licking his neck. "Yes," his voice barely a whisper. "It's working!" Encouraged, Lois moved upward and licked his chin and jaw. As her tongue moved across his lips, she felt his body shudder beneath her. She continued on. Cleaning the chocolate from his cheeks, the bridge of his nose, and forehead. She dipped her tongue into his ear, and Superman moaned. He moaned again as she cleaned his other ear. As she reached for one of his chocolate covered hands, he stopped her. "I don't think you got it all out of my ears yet." Lois, after cleaning Superman's ears for a fourth time, was finally sucking the chocolate off the last finger that was coated. After she slowly withdrew the finger from her mouth, she made a startling realization. "You know what, Superman?" "What?" He asked. A glazed film of satisfaction coated his eyes. "You taste just like Clark Kent." The End ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:44:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Jennifer L. Adkins" Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970815015158.00a4f220@mail.wiznet.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 01:51 AM 8/15/97 -0400, Demona wrote: >Rhen said: ><The archive will no longer be in existence after September 15th.>> > >I think that we *all* want to applaud Rhen's dedication and long time >patience in keeping up the Lois & Clark fanfic archive for so long already :) > >We love ya Rhenny :) I second that! >We WILL be setting up a NEW archive site. Boy, am I glad to hear that! I love the archive, and I would hate to lose it. >Hopefully, pending contact with Lauren, we might even be able to use the >same friendly front door format as the old archive :) Crossed fingers and >Toes I'm sure Lauren will do it with enough arm-twisting. :) >So... what we need now are EDITORS! Several. An editor would be >responsible to look at an 'assigned' piece of fanfic, check it for grammar, >spelling and for RATING (since the list is PG), remain in contact with the >author of the story in case anything needs changing, and then finally, send >the completed, edited TXT file to the administrators of the archive to be >posted. The reason we want several editors is to share in the load! And >all work submitted for posting will be assigned fairly amongst these >individuals. OK, this is what I have a question about. Why don't you just mail out the stories as-is? It would be much less work, and I've read enough fanfic on the net to be *more* than used to reading unedited stories. I have written several L&C fanfics, and I always dreaded seeing the editing changes that had been made. One of the stories in the archive even has a notice that the author sent a story to Rhen that was in script form, and s/he was upset that it had been rewritten as prose before it was distributed. The stories should definitely be checked for rating, but why bother with anything else? Of course, any story that was unacceptable due to content (or grammar or spelling) could be returned to the author for reworking. Or, at least, approval before an edited version is posted. How does everyone else feel about this? Am I just being retentive? Jennifer L. Adkins jladkins@iglou.com "Honey, when I was thirteen, I knew everything. Senility set in some time afterward." Arnold, Torch Song Trilogy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:13:51 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Rhen Brink Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Jennifer has written: >OK, this is what I have a question about. Why don't you just mail out the >stories as-is? It would be much less work, and I've read enough fanfic on >the net to be *more* than used to reading unedited stories. I have written >several L&C fanfics, and I always dreaded seeing the editing changes that >had been made. One of the stories in the archive even has a notice that >the author sent a story to Rhen that was in script form, and s/he was upset >that it had been rewritten as prose before it was distributed. Excuse me? No one has *ever* rewritten anything that was originally in script form to turn it into prose. (Who would have all that time?) I think with all the fanfic you've been reading you have my (almost) extinct archive confused with another. All Lauren and I have ever done is check for spelling/punctuation errors or an occasional (very noticable) typo - I'm thinking about one where an author had Clark hurrying upstairs to put on a lovely strapless dinner dress to be in time for a date with himself. ;) >Of course, any story that was unacceptable due to content (or grammar or >spelling) could be returned to the author for reworking. Or, at least, >approval before an edited version is posted. Which is what I have done all along. Rhen (who feels the silly need to defend the work she has done on the old archive for all these years.) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 19:57:20 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Demona Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19970815184434.0079f6e0@iglou.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 06:44 PM 8/15/97 -0400, you wrote: >OK, this is what I have a question about. Why don't you just mail out the >stories as-is? It would be much less work, and I've read enough fanfic on >the net to be *more* than used to reading unedited stories. I have written >several L&C fanfics, and I always dreaded seeing the editing changes that >had been made. In Rhen's defence, you're mistaken Jen. :) No one edits the stories arbitrarily for content and no one ever has. The stories are "edited" only in so far as to eliminate embarassing spelling and grammar mistakes which the author may not have even recognised. Any "Content" conflicts (I know from having discussed this with Rhen before ;) are *always* brought up WITH the author *before* changes in any way shape or form would be made to story. If it's too riske for a PG posting, then the author has the option to change it...or not. Change it, it gets posted, dont' change it and it doesn't. But the choice is always there. I don't understand what you mean by "as-is". Nothing is done to someone's creative work. Certainly never arbitrarily ;) What if I typed "Ducking my head under a table" only I missed the "D" key by one and hit "F" instead... It is these types of "Edits" which Rhen and her helpers have always done for authors and that is something to be commended IMHO, she's spent many long hours going over people's work. And trust you me, she's seen just about every scary mistake an author can make, purely by accident. Wouldn't want those to be posted. Take Care ;) Demi ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 21:17:22 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Jennifer L. Adkins" Subject: Re: FW: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) Comments: To: renate@mcs.com In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rhen, I certainly didn't mean to hurt your feelings, and I apologize deeply for that. Do you remember a story called A Different Revelation? (diffrev.txt in your archive) At the end of that story, you have written, >Attention!!! Correction!!! This is a letter from Nancy Jones in regard to >the story she co-wrote. (Nancy - sorry it took so long for me to post this. >It got lost in the flood ... :^) > >>I wrote the scene ***BEFORE*** Prankster aired and was not >>happy when they appeared so close together! It was inspired because of all >>the Revelation stories going around at the time that had some crises as the >>basis, or at least Lois crying... why not do this is a comfortable, almost >>joking mood. >> >>I would appreciate it if you would correct this... I would like to think >>I am somewhat original! And it was deliberately written in Movie Script >>style ... not in prose! I'm assuming that this was edited and sent out in a different form from what was submitted by the author. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. I also remember many messages stating that the stories were piling up because you hadn't had time to edit them yet in order to send them out to the list. I by no means meant to hurt your feelings, and I publicly apologize for that. Jennifer L. Adkins jladkins@iglou.com "Honey, when I was thirteen, I knew everything. Senility set in some time afterward." Arnold, Torch Song Trilogy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 21:25:41 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Jennifer L. Adkins" Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19970815195720.00a9e8b0@mail.wiznet.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:57 PM 8/15/97 -0400, you wrote: >In Rhen's defence, you're mistaken Jen. :) No one edits the stories >arbitrarily for content and no one ever has. The stories are "edited" only >in so far as to eliminate embarassing spelling and grammar mistakes Grammar mistakes. Hmm. Sometimes, when I write, I change tenses for effect. I've read excellent stories that had poor grammar, but who's to say that it wasn't done on purpose? >which >the author may not have even recognised. Any "Content" conflicts (I know >from having discussed this with Rhen before ;) are *always* brought up WITH >the author *before* changes in any way shape or form would be made to >story. If it's too riske for a PG posting, then the author has the option >to change it...or not. Change it, it gets posted, dont' change it and it >doesn't. But the choice is always there. I don't understand what you mean >by "as-is". Nothing is done to someone's creative work. Certainly never >arbitrarily ;) > >What if I typed "Ducking my head under a table" only I missed the "D" key >by one and hit "F" instead... It is these types of "Edits" which Rhen and >her helpers have always done for authors and that is something to be >commended IMHO, she's spent many long hours going over people's work. And >trust you me, she's seen just about every scary mistake an author can make, >purely by accident. Wouldn't want those to be posted. > >Take Care ;) >Demi I know how much work that has to be, and it is very difficult. I don't mean to upset anyone with my comments, just put forward my views. On a "family" list, language, violence, and sexual situations certainly are uncalled-for. But spelling errors? Aren't those between the writer and the computer? Surely anyone who doesn't have a spell-checker has a dictionary. If the writer doesn't care enough to fix it, why should you "waste" your time? JMHO, Jennifer L. Adkins jladkins@iglou.com "Honey, when I was thirteen, I knew everything. Senility set in some time afterward." Arnold, Torch Song Trilogy ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 21:46:12 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Annette Ciotola Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) In a message dated 97-08-15 21:27:16 EDT, you write: << Rhen (who feels the silly need to defend the work she has done on the old archive for all these years.) >> No need to defend yourself...I think you have done a great job! Kudos to you and Lauren! Anne :-) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:38:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) In a message dated 97-08-15 21:27:16 EDT, renate@MCS.COM (Rhen Brink) writes: << Rhen (who feels the silly need to defend the work she has done on the old archive for all these years.) >> Hey, I'll defend you Rhen has saved me more than once by going over a story I've written checking for errors. One person posted that everyone has spell checkers or dictionaries and if they don't care enough to edit themselves....etc. That isn't the case for those of us who write for a living for example. There wouldn't be copy editors out there at newspapers and publishing houses if even the best of writers didn't mess up once in a while. It's not always grammar or spelling either. It can be the inadvertent misuse of homonyms. I recall one story where I used "peak" instead of "peek" So, instead of Clark saying that Lois tempted him to glance surreptituosly at her, Lois tempted Clark to climax Of course with Clark and Lois, both statements could be true, BUT that is not what I meant by my goof ;) One of the more realistic scenes between Lois and Clark on the series is where Clark corrected Lois saying "That should be a *spokesperson* for the FBI, Lois" and Lois says, "That's what copy editors are for." They were both right. With the peak/peek incident, I felt I had chosen the proper word, but I was wrong. It wasn't blatant like made/maid, and so I felt confident I had not been in error. Rhen caught the mistake. One mistake that was not caught was the "rye" grin I gave Clark The reason stories, particularly long ones, need copy editors is because the writer *knows* what was written, or rather THOUGHT for sure, 100% certain what was written, and sometimes can look squarely at the printed page and NOT see the missing "and" or NOT see "and" written instead of "an", etc. We become so familiar with our stories (we wrote them after all), that we sometimes miss "the the" and other simple errors because we have the story in our heads. It's there, the way we intended, and sometimes because we are so familiar with it, and reading it and re-reading it, that we slip up. Sometimes strict adherence to grammar is not necessary. That is few people would catch the verb not taking the subjunctive case in "If I.." or "I wish I..." situations. Example: "If I were President" is correct "If I was President" is incorrect, but if a character is using the poor grammar, it becomes "conversationsal" and a part of his/her speech pattern, education, or just being "lingoistic". However, a good copy editor should ask the author if the poor grammar was intentional. Split infinitives? It's not my place to boldly go there I think some on the list have confused a copy editor with a censor. This has led to the unfair accusations flying back and forth. I know Rhen has never edited "content" of stories. If she felt words or actions too strong or suggestive for the general fanfic list, she would contact the author and tell that person that the content was not acceptable for the list. That gave the *author* the option to tone down the story, or send it to the nfic list for example. Having editors is not a matter of writer "laziness" or of "censorship" it is just a traditional good working relationship with someone who is looking out for the writer. It is a hard job, and when you talk about fanfic, a non-paying job. I am ALWAYS thankful to story editors. They make me look better than I am Zoom (applauding the Perry Whites among us ;) ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:41:02 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Rhen Brink Subject: Re: FW: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) Comments: To: "Jennifer L. Adkins" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Jennifer - never assume anything - you will almost certainly be wrong ;) Nancy had co-written a story with Leigh Raglan. Leigh, unbeknownst to Nancy, rewrote the whole thing but submitted it to the archive as a joint effort. I uploaded it, not knowing any better. Nancy wrote to me explaining how upset she was - I asked her if I should pull the story all together - take her name off of it - or however else she might like to have it handled. She wrote back and asked me to leave it be, since the idea had been hers originally but she wanted me to add the notice you read. I did as I was asked. Now - can you see where you assumed wrong? >I'm assuming that this was edited and sent out in a different form from >what was submitted by the author. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. Apology accepted. >I also remember many messages stating that the stories were piling up >because you hadn't had time to edit them yet in order to send them out to >the list. I had to reformat each story to allow for line length for a myriad of different computer programs - and also for file lengths. Since so many people have so many different types of systems I have had to conform submissions to a very tight and unforgiving format or risk having dozens of people complaining to me that they couldn't get the story the way they'd like to. >I by no means meant to hurt your feelings, and I publicly apologize for that. Thank you again for the apology. (I'm still waiting to hear how your stories were changed ... ) Rhen (Who is *very* willing to stop boring everyone else with this thread. Jennifer, if you have additional comments or questions - let's take this to private e-mail.) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 06:21:13 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: COMBO: "content" you say?; Klien = Xena; Alice; A little bit depressed..; Rhen's archive; L&C & movies Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 07:05 PM 8/15/97 +0300, Zohar G. wrote: >Just read your post Deb. I think it's a great idea! Maybe we can do a >Godzila - L&C crossover. Like they did in LOTF? :-) I also just finnished >seeing Toy Story, so your... imaginative of not sick ideas are kind of >related. ;-) Sick? Sick?!! Hmm... I bet that could be fanficked, too. Obsessed fanfic writer with a chuck of Red Kryptonite and a gallon of Rocky Road ice cream... nah... not for publication, anyhow :) >Also, after seeing the ep tonight, I got to the conclusion that Dr. Klien >is really Xena. ;-) How, you say? Well, Xena always wears the same clothes, >right? Except when she is being kidnapped by some God or something... :-) >Dr. Klien always wears his lab coat thingy. Therefor, he is Xena. Oddly enough, this works for me. I don't watch much Xena [I don't watch much TV at all lately... only the weather, the news, the tabloid shows, Secret Agent on Plex, and the recently canceled Duckman :(], but there may be another connection between Klein and Xena: remember the leather jacket Klein was wearing as he showed he is a biker? The lab rats on the lapels? (I think this was, I wasn't sitting close enough to the screen and someone else noticed this.) Rats are everywhere... like the gods, hmm? Debby Debby@swcp.com Blinded by Science... (except she has lots show scripts to offer... write for info) PS: I stumbled across MTV's "Hotel California" show on Friday afternoon and they were taking a sneak look at the new horror movie "Mimic" (the plot for which sounds pretty good, though it also looks gory). I bet they'll do the same for Best Men... we must keep watch! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 11:35:49 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: Re: Fancfic list Comments: cc: Richard Field Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:14 AM 8/16/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Farah, > >I just joined the fanfic list and am looking forward to finding out what >good stories are out there. Thanks for making this possible (as well as >setting up the regular list when it went down before :) > >Is there a possibility that this list will have digest mode available? >Just wondering. Yes, it's the same command as setting digest for the LOISCLA list send mail to: LISTSERV@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU body text: SET LOISCLA-GENERAL-L DIGEST if this doesn't work, it means that I have to enable it, but I am pretty sure it is enabled. I am going to post this to the list as well.. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 11:53:53 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Personally, I feel this is okay. Any more description and I would have to wear gloves to handle it :) Seriously, this is just on the line anything more than this would be a little too descriptive. But, the story did make this list :) Its out there.. for the whole world to see. Let's say a 12 year old girl had this in her mail box (on the computer, of course) and her mother or father ran across it? Do you think they would be upset. I don't think so.. now, if the story had lets say, particular body parts described, or "how" lois liked the chocolate, *or* how she knew superman tasted like CK, then I think this would be too far. farah At 04:41 PM 8/15/97 -0400, you wrote: >okay, as I spoke before of innuendo, I'd say this old short story I wrote is >what I'm talking about. Is this story, for example, too strong on innuendo to >make the list? > >LIKE SUPERMAN FOR CHOCOLATE > >A steamy and sticky revelation story >(um, not to be taken seriously....like you would?) > >By Zoomway ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 11:58:57 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:53 AM 8/16/97 -0500, you wrote: >I don't think so.. now, if the story had lets say, particular body parts >described, or "how" lois liked the chocolate, *or* how she knew >superman tasted like CK, then I think this would be too far. > >farah DOH! I meant "how lois licked the chocolate" i hate typos! ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:18:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19970816165353.00698c94@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:53 AM -0500 8/16/97, Farah Meitzen Chisham wrote: >Seriously, this is just on the line anything more than this would >be a little too descriptive. But, the story did make this list :) Its >out there.. for the whole world to see. >I don't think so.. now, if the story had lets say, particular body parts >described, or "how" lois liked the chocolate, *or* how she knew >superman tasted like CK, then I think this would be too far. I thought I'd throw my $.02 in here. Farah, it sounds to me like you want to make this list less steamy than Rhen's was. Is this the case? I don't have any problem if this is the case; I'm just trying to get things straight in my mind. By your comments above, there are a few stories in the current archive that would not be allowed on this list, one of them being mine. I submitted a PG (maybe PG13) version of Camping with Clark, one of my nfics, to the archive a couple years ago. It was accepted and is currently on there. I don't know if you've read it, but in summary, Lois and Clark go camping with a group of Clark's college friends. It's mostly just a fun story, with lots of humor, but the end is a bit steamy -- Lois wants to make love in their tent that night, but Clark doesn't feel right about doing it when someone might hear them. So, Lois sets out to "distract" him right out of his super-hearing ... and it works. I cut it off before they do any more than heavy making out (the nfic version keeps going ;), and no R rated words are used. It wasn't anything worse than what you'd see on an 8pm episode of Friends ... but I have a feeling that even this would go beyond what you would like to see on this list. My feeling has always been to rate fanfic the way they do the movies. 12 year olds can get in to see a PG or PG13 movie without their parents approval, so I don't see any problem with them having access to a PG fanfic (though maybe their parents do). What about having each author "rate" their fanfic before posting it to the list? Make the rating part of the header for the story: Camping With Clark by Kathy Brown Rated: PG-13 This might help parents who don't want their kids to read anything other than G or PG rated fic. Just a thought. :) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net Family Pictures: http://www.toolcity.net/~kbrown/ KathyB on the IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 17:50:38 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) << As best as I can remember (it's been so long ;) I've never gotten anymore graphic than the above. So, let me know if that is okay ;) I have a story ready, and I didn't want to post it without knowing what was okay. Zoom (well, there was that one story where Lois and Clark are trapped in a cave-in, and Lois finds Superman-sized hand prints all over her pink blouse ;) ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 21:15:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) In-Reply-To: <970816175038_-252426174@emout17.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 5:50 PM -0400 8/16/97, The Zoomway wrote: > Here is a >clip from "It's About Time" (I wrote this way back in 94 ;) Thanks, Zoom. This is still one of my favorite fics. Leaves me with a smile every time. :) >Zoom (well, there was that one story where Lois and Clark are trapped in a >cave-in, and Lois finds Superman-sized hand prints all over her pink blouse >;) LOL!!! I remember that one ... I thought it was a great description. Kathy (who would have posted a passage from Camping, but I probably would have gotten yelled at. ) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net Family Pictures: http://www.toolcity.net/~kbrown/ KathyB on the IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 20:59:41 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Nightwing Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >>Zoom (well, there was that one story where Lois and Clark are trapped in a >>cave-in, and Lois finds Superman-sized hand prints all over her pink blouse Which fanfic was that? I'd like to read it. Thanks Nightwing Teamwork. There is no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit. Keep your enemies close and you're friends even closer. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 05:30:48 +0300 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Zohar Gilboa Subject: Reply to lots of stuff In-Reply-To: <2.2.16.19970816061818.257f3978@swcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To Debbie: >>Just read your post Deb. I think it's a great idea! Maybe we can do a >>Godzila - L&C crossover. Like they did in LOTF? :-) I also just finnished >>seeing Toy Story, so your... imaginative of not sick ideas are kind of >>related. ;-) > >Sick? Sick?!! Sorry, that was *if* not sick. Not *of*... :-) Crazy wasn't that funny, what can I say? ;-) >Hmm... I bet that could be fanficked, too. Obsessed fanfic writer with a chuck >of Red Kryptonite and a gallon of Rocky Road ice cream... nah... not for >publication, anyhow :) LOL! >remember the leather jacket >Klein was wearing as he showed he is a biker? The lab rats on the lapels? (I >think this was, I wasn't sitting close enough to the screen and someone else >noticed this.) Rats are everywhere... like the gods, hmm? I don't remember rats everywhere... But if you say so... There was an ep on Xena where they have to go through a tunnel filled with rats. :-) To Zoom (about story): LOL Zoom! Nice story... :-) But I think it's a little bit too much for the list, no? To Demi and the whole archive thing: >What if I typed "Ducking my head under a table" only I missed the "D" key >by one and hit "F" instead... How much time did you have to think about that example? :-) Well, I don't have anything else to say about this... :-) One last question... I see this all the time the PG-13 and R and all that stuff. I know it's a rating system, but what does it mean? Anyone please help me with that? Zohar Gilboa rami_gil@netvision.net.il ; sman@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2301 Always remember you're unique, just like everybody else. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 22:32:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: Hey everyone! On Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:09:00 PDT Rhen Brink writes: >Just a little notice about the "other" fanfic source: > >I am no long accepting fanfic for the Lois & Clark Fanfic Archive. >The archive will no longer be in existence after September 15th. > >Sorry to disappoint you. So, does that mean all the stories that were on the Internet via your webpage will be lost to those of us whose parents are dragging their feet on getting hooked up to the Internet? (Yes, I still live at home at 27 years of age--It stinks!) Another question: Is this the ftp site that I access all the time via Princeton? Please respond ASAP, because if they will no longer be available, I want to hurry and acquire the rest that I haven't gotten yet! Thank you, Carol A. p.s. I posted this to the list because I thought the response would be information everyone could use. : ) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 07:59:44 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:38 PM 8/15/97 -0400, Zoomway wrote: >In a message dated 97-08-15 21:27:16 EDT, renate@MCS.COM (Rhen Brink) writes: > ><< Rhen (who feels the silly need to defend the work she has done on > the old archive for all these years.) >> > >Hey, I'll defend you Ditto! >Rhen has saved me more than once by going over a >story I've written checking for errors. One person posted that everyone has >spell checkers or dictionaries and if they don't care enough to edit >themselves....etc. [snip] It can be the inadvertent misuse >of homonyms. I recall one story where I used "peak" instead of "peek" So, >instead of Clark saying that Lois tempted him to glance surreptituosly at >her, Lois tempted Clark to climax Of course with Clark and Lois, both >statements could be true, BUT that is not what I meant by my goof ;) Sounded like a peak experience to me... my interest is piqued ;) (I've made that particular error, too). Proofers are wonderful people. They can offer everything from simple grammer/spell checking to actual editing advice and new ideas. Perhaps those who think they can't write can offer to proof, mentioning it here on this list. I also want to reiterate an idea I had earlier: A concordance is slowly being made of everything ever done, seen and said on the show. This is good. What I would like to see takes that information and makes a history out of it. Take an idea and trace it through the show for evidence. For example, how fast is Clark? Look for examples. If there are conflicts (between, say, the end of Resurrection and the early scene in Lois's apartment in Ordinary People), maybe we could have a vote. Or, another example, what kind of childhood did Lois have? That of a suffering, lonely highly intelligent person... or was she (while still smart) really popular enough to be class president? If we can iron some of these wrinkles out, as well as provide some concrete information, it may help fanfic writers base their stories on what is on the show... as well as give them ideas to use (how did Clark discover he had super speed? What led Lois, despite being shy, to run for class president?) Debby Debby@swcp.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 23:51:42 +1000 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Rochelle Harrison Subject: The Soon to be Gone Fanfic Archive In-Reply-To: <970815223759_606807105@emout01.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Firstly I just wanted to thank Rhen for the warning about the up-and-coming disappearance of the fanfic archive. It's giving me a chance to make a mad dash for some of stories I hadn't yet gotten to. I'm assuming this list is for posting stories as well as discussing them? I hope so because this should be interesting. I also hope that this business of whether or not stories were rewritten has been sorted out. It's time consuming enough trying to write your own story, much less rewrite someone else's when you haven't been asked. Well back to the download. Rochelle (Rhen is the L&C archive going down because you're wanting to put a PO5 one up?) folc@mailbox.uq.edu.au Ro or Ro-El on IRC ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 10:15:00 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Gary Subject: Movie Rating System In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19970817053048.00691ba4@netvision.net.il> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 05:30 AM 8/17/97 +0300, you wrote: >One last question... I see this all the time the PG-13 and R and all that >stuff. I know it's a rating system, but what does it mean? Anyone please >help me with that? > G........Anything Disney puts out no matter how adult the subject really is... PG.......Any kiddie adventure type movie PG-13....Any adolescent adventure involving puberty and/or death R........$$$ rating, brief nudity, violence, adult situations and language NC-17....straight to video rating, more nudity and adult stuff X........PWP, (Plot? What Plot?) XX.......Do these people own any clothes? XXX......They don't even bother to say "Hi" first. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 10:05:35 PDT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Rhen Brink Subject: Re: The Soon to be Gone Fanfic Archive Comments: cc: Lauren Willoughby MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii Hello all ... Richelle wrote: >Firstly I just wanted to thank Rhen for the warning about the up-and-coming >disappearance of the fanfic archive. It's giving me a chance to make a mad >dash for some of stories I hadn't yet gotten to. (Thank you for being so kind, Rochelle ;) Well, I just heard from Saint Lauren (any sanity I have left I owe all to her) and she has volunteered to take the pile of unarchived stories I have and put them up on her page temporarily till the new Archive kicks in. What'd I tell ya? Isn't she fantastic? So there should be new fic on her page really soon! (And lots of it, too!) >(Rhen is the L&C archive going down because you're wanting to put a PO5 one >up?) Heavens, no! It's going down because God only gave me 24 hours to try to fit 26 hours of stuff into ... but, if your interested, TK Baltimore has a really nice Po5 page ... as do a few others on the Po5 list. Write to me privately if you need the URL, Rochelle. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 16:05:57 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) In a message dated 97-08-17 05:51:45 EDT, clamar@HIWAAY.NET (Nightwing) writes: << Which fanfic was that? I'd like to read it. >> The story with the Superman hand prints on Lois's blouse was "Look, But Don't Touch". It was a sexual tension story basically that involved Superman doing a dedication at a mine, Lois doing the reporting, and Jimmy doing the photography, but a cave-in happens and Lois and Clark are trapped with everyone else, but because Clark is Superman, he and Lois cannot "interact" with each other even with a simple kiss now and then. After a while, it starts to drive them a little buggy It's at my site or the current archive site as "lookbut.txt" (I didn't choose the abbreviation ;) Zoom ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 16:01:59 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I think this is totally appropriate. When I mean discriptive is by something like (you can finish the sentence yourself :) Then, Lois reached her hand down at felt his..... Clark then took her face in his hands nudging her to.... That's what I mean. Strong innunendo is no problem... its the further description that may cause something. I'll leave it up to you. I don't mind what you post. I think we all know what is more appropriate for Deb's nfanfic list. I am *sure* if something is more than questionable then someone will pipe up. I am not being picky because "I " think it's inappropriate, I just don't some freaked-out parent to email me. If you have read this far, I just wanted to share with you that I graduated on Friday from IU (no, my email account won't go away) with a BM (music)! I am done! Now, i have to find a job :( farah. At 05:50 PM 8/16/97 -0400, you wrote: ><<described, or "how" lois licked the chocolate, *or* how she knew >superman tasted like CK, then I think this would be too far.<<<< > > "I'll leave them off," he whispered. "In the morning you'll >have your answer. I think it's about time you knew anyway." He >pressed himself against her, and once again they kissed. His >mind was given over to only those things which he could >perceive through his senses. The smell of spice and perume, >the softness of her hair, the taste of wine and mint, the firmness >of her body, and the sound of their breath. The sound of >hunger. > >That's it, then BOOM, it's the next morning As best as I can remember >(it's been so long ;) I've never gotten anymore graphic than the above. So, >let me know if that is okay ;) I have a story ready, and I didn't want to >post it without knowing what was okay. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 16:06:59 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: Zoomway's site?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 04:05 PM 8/17/97 -0400, you wrote: >starts to drive them a little buggy It's at my site or the current archive >site as "lookbut.txt" (I didn't choose the abbreviation ;) Where's the sight? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 17:29:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: FANFIC: Congrats Farah! In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19970817210159.0069f2a4@copper.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 4:01 PM -0500 8/17/97, Farah Meitzen Chisham wrote: >If you have read this far, I just wanted to share with you that >I graduated on Friday from IU (no, my email account won't >go away) with a BM (music)! I am done! Now, i have to find >a job :( farah. Yay, Farah! Congrats. My sister also graduated with a B of Music from U of Michigan (another Big 10 school ;)) but she delayed the job thing by going to grad school. She's at Penn right now, getting her PhD in Music History (musicology) and should be finished next year. So, you'll have company in the job search stress department. Kathy :) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net Family Pictures: http://www.toolcity.net/~kbrown/ KathyB on the IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 17:58:29 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Breezy Walsh Subject: Congrats Farah! And Ratings... In a message dated 97-08-17 17:34:30 EDT, you write: << I graduated on Friday from IU (no, my email account won't go away) with a BM (music)! I am done! Now, i have to find a job :( farah. >> I just wanted to say congradulations and there is an opening at my school for a new band director because the old one just up and quit. What a maroon... but anyway FoLCs, I also wanted to say as a person under the age of 18, 16 to be exact, that my parents rely on ratings for movies and now tv shows I am allowed to watch pretty much anything, but my little sister who is 12 is allowed to watch shows as long as they don't have that whole let'sgetdescriptiveandraunchyandlookatsomeoldguy'sbutt kind of deal going on. I don't know if this helps at all, but I thought I'd add my $0.02 worth and try to help out. Sincerely, Breezy "I'm going camping" Walsh ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 18:17:34 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) In a message dated 97-08-17 17:34:30 EDT, fchisham@INDIANA.EDU (Farah Meitzen Chisham) writes: << I think this is totally appropriate. When I mean discriptive is by something like (you can finish the sentence yourself :) >> Thank you, muchly ;) I appreciately the quick response. Zoom ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 18:29:59 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Jeanne Parietti Subject: stuff >>> SET LOISCLA-GENERAL-L DIGEST >LOISCLA-GENERAL-L: DIGESTS option reset - digests not available for this >list. I tried to set digest form and I received this message. I guess the list isn't set up for digest yet. Zoom: <<>>> I just made that identical mistake last week on the irc while we were involved in writing a round robin nfic. Thanks, Zoom, I feel like I'm in good comapny. I felt sort of "duh" at the time. BTW, I think some people are worrying too much about this whole subject of what is appropriate for this list. Just use common sense...sensible steam is fine (should I say desireable?)...avoid the real graphic, lewd stuff....we all know the difference (don't we?) Jeanne Jeanne ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 19:11:12 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: Zoomway's site?? >>>Where's the sight?<<< I'm afraid it's an unspectactual site where I put my fanfic I have no talent for creating website stuff, so just the txt files of my fanfic are there http://members.aol.com:/zoomway/LCFIC It's drab, but I call it home Zoom ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 21:03:44 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: Zoomway's site?? In a message dated 97-08-17 18:45:33 EDT, fchisham@INDIANA.EDU (Farah Meitzen Chisham) writes: << At 04:05 PM 8/17/97 -0400, you wrote: >starts to drive them a little buggy It's at my site or the current archive >site as "lookbut.txt" (I didn't choose the abbreviation ;) Where's the sight? >> >From what I gather, there is no sight to behold at that site because it's all innuendo . Sorry, I couldn't resist. OK, you can take seriously my offer to proofread--even if my fingers don't work correctly on my keyboard and my shift key sticks. --Laurie (who knows the difference between peek, peak, and pique) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 22:27:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Frantz Subject: Re: The Soon to be Gone Fanfic Archive In a message dated 97-08-17 11:19:02 EDT, you write: << she has volunteered to take the pile of unarchived stories I have and put them up on her page temporarily till the new Archive kicks in. What'd I tell ya? Isn't she fantastic? So there should be new fic on her page really soon! (And lots of it, too!) >> I feel really *thick* here....so...the new page (thank heavens!) will have the unarchived stories in it...will there be any place that the already archived stories are going to be? Or do I really need to rush and copy everything from Rhen's list?? BTW, Rhen, as a *new* fanfic reader.....I really appreciate everything you did for the archive!! thanks for the info...sorry if it's already been answered..... Kathy ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 22:39:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Demona Subject: Re: The Soon to be Gone Fanfic Archive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kathy Frantz wrote: > I feel really *thick* here....so...the new page (thank heavens!) will > have > the unarchived stories in it...will there be any place that the > already > archived stories are going to be? Or do I really need to rush and copy > > everything from Rhen's list?? Kathy! We're working right now on attempting to keep the Fanfic Archive alive and well, so that it will continue to be there as a resource for the FoLC ;) We've got a lot of authors to contact, we have to relocate all the stories we're allowed to and there's still a fair bit of admin to take care of but hopefully, with the beautiful and talented Lauren's help (Hi Lauren! ;) we'll get this project underway once again and no one will have to rush and D/L the whole archive! Hang tight! More info soon! (and if you feel you'd like to volunteer your services to help out either as an editor or with the www end of things, let us know: LNC@cryogen.com :) Take Care! Demi ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 22:41:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Sarah Murray Subject: Re: FAQ? In a message dated 97-08-14 16:25:28 EDT, Kathy wrote: << Also, is there going to be a header in the subject line of each message I get from this list? Farah, I remember you were able to set up the temporary LOISCLA list with "LOISCLA" in the subject automaticallly. Can we do this here, too? Maybe "FANFIC" or "FANFIC LISTSERV" or something like that? >> I second this idea :) If it's too much trouble to have the header automatically added, maybe we could consider manually putting an "FF" or "Fanfic" in our subject lines. I know I have this list and the regular LOISCLA list in the same inbox and the posts get all jumbled in together Sarah smurray16@aol.com CatG on IRC ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 02:13:26 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: Zoomway's site?? In a message dated 97-08-18 00:37:11 EDT, Larus2407@AOL.COM (No Name Available) writes: << From what I gather, there is no sight to behold at that site because it's all innuendo . Sorry, I couldn't resist >> Snork ;P I have to thank Barbara Geraud and others for telling me that my files 1201.txt and Bouttime.txt wouldn't open. I deleted the files and then uploaded them again, and this time they opened for me. Let me know if you have any problems with those or other files at my site. >>>OK, you can take seriously my offer to proofread--even if my fingers don't work correctly on my keyboard and my shift key sticks.<<<< Well, I'll need a proofreader shortly ;) But be warned, the thing is already over 100K. >>-Laurie (who knows the difference between peek, peak, and pique)<<< Zoom(who knows the difference between squiggle and squaggle ;) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 12:16:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Jeanne Parietti Subject: Re: FAQ? In a message dated 8/18/97 11:12:17 AM, you wrote: < >> ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 12:11:43 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Genine E Murray Subject: Dean's 1998 FoLC Sponsored Birthday Gift Comments: To: LOISCLA@VM.EGE.EDU.TR Hi FoLCs ~ Anyone interested in becoming involved with the planning of Dean Cain's 'official' 1998 FoLC gift, please send a brief e-mail message to the following addy : DeanFoLCGift98@juno.com You will then be added to the list of FoLCs to receive regular updates and to be involved. You may also visit the official website (under HEAVY construction) at http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/3709 We hope to hear from all of you soon! Let's give Dean a *super* 32nd birthday!! =D Sincerely, The Dean FoLC '98 Gift Crew ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 12:30:11 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Jeanne Parietti Subject: fanfic listserv re:Faq I also agree that it would be a good idea if we had something in the subject which indicates that this is the fanfic listserv. I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm being inundated here at AOl with junk mail, some of which is x-rated. I always delete all junk mail before opening it, but now it is sometimes hard to distinguish between junk mail and this listserv because I don't always recognize the sender. Jeanne ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 15:47:09 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Dana M. Hackenberger" Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) Hi everyone! Despite my fears I made it home safely from LAFF, and boy did we have a great time!!! Anyway, I just subscribed to this list and came across this: [ about Zoom's chocolate story ] <> Sorry to say this, yes, I think so. I have an extra folder for nfic and I secure each story with a password because I have a 16 years old brother and a 13 years old sister and neither I nor my parents would want them to read any of the stories ( they sometimes come and use my PC ). I also put in stories that are not declared as nfic but that I think might be inappropriate, and this story was one of it. True, there was only innuendo, but my family has a wild fantasy <> Oh, I *loved* that story - still, it wandered into the nfic folder. I didn't know you had another version out, would you mind sending it to me? I don't like cut stuff. <> I know a lot of people who don't care about ratings. People thought I was really stupid because I had Gorn's stories on my HD but waited the short time until I turned 18 before I read it. But I think it's a good idea, so I can take care of those stories first. Missing the heat, the air conditions, free refills, ice cubes and Clark Bars, Dana ( I feel like my own grandma, but it's MHO ) DanaOF@aol.com ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:05:49 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: My last post tonight--I *promise*! I just gotta know, FoLCs: Will those of us who still have only e-mail be able to access the NEW fanfic page via the ftp link at Princeton or the Library of Congress? PLEASE tell me. If not, I missed out on a LOT of stuff that I wanted to see but was WAY too busy to collect. : ( Sincerely, Carol A. Addison fanficfan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:23:50 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) On Sat, 16 Aug 1997 11:58:57 -0500 Farah Meitzen Chisham writes: >At 11:53 AM 8/16/97 -0500, you wrote: > >>I don't think so.. now, if the story had lets say, particular body >parts >>described, or "how" lois liked the chocolate, *or* how she knew >>superman tasted like CK, then I think this would be too far. >> >>farah > >DOH! I meant "how lois licked the chocolate" i hate typos! > Whew! For a minute, there, I was pretty worried about the strictness aspect again! : ) Carol A. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:02:07 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: Congrats Farah! And Ratings... Farah wrote:<< I graduated on Friday from IU (no, my email account won't go away) with a BM (music)! I am done! Now, i have to find a job :( farah. >> Ah, yes--that graduation from college feeling! I know it only too well. (It took me seven years to get my BS, after 10 bad roommate experiences and an auditor who judged me by each year's curricula instead of the year I started school there.) CONGRATULATIONS! The job search IS tough--and depressing. Don't despair, though....After two years of getting told--not in so many words--that my schooling hadn't prepared me well enough for the field, I nailed a job. It's about half the pay I should be getting with my degree, but, hey, it's a start! You can do the same! YAY FOR FARAH! Carol A. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:22:41 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) On Sat, 16 Aug 1997 11:53:53 -0500 Farah Meitzen Chisham writes: >Personally, I feel this is okay. Any more description and I would >have to wear gloves to handle it :) > >Seriously, this is just on the line anything more than this would >be a little too descriptive. But, the story did make this list :) >Its out there.. for the whole world to see. > >Let's say a 12 year old girl had this in her mail box (on the computer, >of course) and her mother or father ran across it? Do you think they >would be upset. > >I don't think so.. now, if the story had lets say, particular body parts >described, or "how" lois liked the chocolate, *or* how she knew >superman tasted like CK, then I think this would be too far. Actually, believe it or not, there ARE parents out there who would find even THIS too much. Not me, personally--I'm not even a PARENT--but I have met parents who believe their children shouldn't even THINK about sex until securely engaged to a life partner. Yes, I *am* serious. Please tell me we won't be catering to any such parents' restrictions. Thanks, Carol A. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 21:35:10 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: using an "oldie" to test content ;) On Sat, 16 Aug 1997 13:18:01 -0400 Kathy Brown writes: >What about having each author "rate" their fanfic before posting it to the >list? Make the rating part of the header for the story: > >Camping With Clark >by Kathy Brown >Rated: PG-13 > >This might help parents who don't want their kids to read anything other >than G or PG rated fic. > >Just a thought. :) And an EXCELLENT one, IMHO. What does everyone else think? Farah? This could open some doors for people like Kathy who write very WAFFy stuff that is just a little steamier than some parents might like. I have an additional thought--an amendment to the one above. What if Farah were to make a list of ratings with examples of content next to the ratings. For example: G Disney animated feature quality--nothing more than chaste kisses, and NO SWEARING PG "Stand by Me" (the movie) quality--nothing more than "the D word," or "the H word." Passionate kisses ONLY. PG-13 "Indiana Jones and the Temples of Doom" quality--some mild violence, some mild obscenities, some passionate kisses, some innuendoes. You get the general idea. If you think this is a good idea, Farah, feel free to use it. It's not patented. : ) Carol A. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:14:47 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: A matter of "content" On Fri, 15 Aug 1997 13:26:48 -0500 Farah Meitzen Chisham writes: >This is everyone's list. How about we set the standards for it? I am up >to suggestion and I have one (see below). We are all smart, just >"nothin' dirty" > >I saw the *very* first post and all I saw >was basically "the lustier the better" and I acted out of I guess what a >first time parent would do the first time their kid says "stuff-it!" I >acted a bit out of proportion of what I should have. I have been guilty of this, as well. (See my replies to your messages.) : } > >Just imagine what would be in Debbie's list and don't put the >OHwww-WHEEE! parts in it. I have seen some nfic on Rhen's list that had >those parts removed. So, it's okay to have "kissy-kissy" and "enter the bedroom (or other locale of choice) and fade to black"? >I just don't want to get in trouble with the "net-police" as someone said to me >once. What's interesting is my e-mail carrier supposedly forbids the vulgar language and profanity, but with all the stories I've gotten, Mom still has her e-mail account. I think they just say that stuff to lure you in, because we get all kinds of pornography advertisement messages. "Ain't America great?" Tempus, "Meet John Doe" That's all for now, Carol A. Addison p.s. Thanks to those who have sent me stuff. Keep it comin'! : ) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 20:54:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) On Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:44:34 -0400 "Jennifer L. Adkins" writes: >OK, this is what I have a question about. Why don't you just mail out the >stories as-is? It would be much less work, and I've read enough fanfic on >the net to be *more* than used to reading unedited stories. I have written >several L&C fanfics, and I always dreaded seeing the editing changes that >had been made. One of the stories in the archive even has a notice that >the author sent a story to Rhen that was in script form, and s/he was upset >that it had been rewritten as prose before it was distributed. > >The stories should definitely be checked for rating, but why bother with >anything else? Here's MY humble opinion: As the editor of TSCG, I have gotten a lot of submissions sent to me RAW (without proofreading). Until then, I had not realized just how many people out there have the same problem I do: dyslexic fingers. Also of note is the fact that fanfics that are posted to a fanfic site are probably in TEXT ONLY format, which means they have had all tabs, centering, italics, etc., removed. This makes it very difficult for the reader to decipher what exactly is going on in places. I, for one, am all for the continued proofreading of fanfic before it gets added to a fanfic site. I only regret that I have no time to help because of prior obligations to the Hillsdale Branch of American Association of University Women and my own fanzine, not to mention the stories I have to read for my writers' group each month. Perhaps sometime in the future--say, one or two years from now--I'll have more spare time....Well, I can HOPE, can't I? : ) > >Of course, any story that was unacceptable due to content (or grammar or >spelling) could be returned to the author for reworking. Or, at least, >approval before an edited version is posted. > >How does everyone else feel about this? Am I just being retentive? Actually, I'd say YOU'RE being very UN-retentive. It is those of us who feel the editing is NECESSARY who are being retentive....Of course, I speak only for myself! : ) Sincerely, Carol A. Addison Editor, TSCG "Lois, 'vision gizmo' doesn't sound particularly...cool." Clark, "Just Say Noah" ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 18 Aug 1997 22:37:05 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: Hey everyone! Dear Demi: On Fri, 15 Aug 1997 09:22:43 PDT Rhen Brink writes: >It will be gone from the ipahome address as of September 15th - >that's one month. After that, maybe Demi will be able to >accomodate you. > >It's tying up approx. 18 MB of space that I can't justify using >anymore ... > >Again, I'm sorry. PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!!! (I am posting this plea because I think there are more people out there who would like to be able to access via ftp.ipahome.com or something similar. Those of us with only e-mail access are DOOMED otherwise!) : ( Sincerely, Carol A. Addison ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 00:23:52 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Hey everyone! In-Reply-To: <19970818.233559.12206.22.jvladdisons@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:37 PM -0400 8/18/97, Ethel \"Terri\" Addison wrote: >PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZ!!! > >(I am posting this plea because I think there are more people out there >who would like to be able to access via ftp.ipahome.com or something >similar. Those of us with only e-mail access are DOOMED otherwise!) : ( Carol, chill, babe. The fanfic archive will be moving sites. Rhen will not be managing it anymore, but a new team will be. The new web site address will be posted all over the world, so you won't miss our announcement of it's creation. As for how you access the ftp site currently, how about jotting down all the pertient details and sending it to me, *privately*? I'll pass it along to our Web Resources team and we'll see what we can do. I can't promise that you will be able to access our new site the way you could access the old one, but the front door will be the similar and the new archive will also be an FTP site, so it stands to reason that whatever system you are using now may still work. (Whew, that was a mouthful.) This is a huge project, and believe me, we are doing everything we can to effect a smooth transition. Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois and Clark Fanfic Archive kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:50:44 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: No Name Available Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) > It is those of us who feel the editing is NECESSARY who are being retentive.< I, for one, feel that awful spelling and grammar get in the way of enjoying a story. I've grumbled so much through some stories that weren't even spell-checked that I can't even remember what they were about! That's why I've offered (limited time) to do a bit of proof reading. That much I can do. As for major editing, well, I've dealt with touchy writers--or one anyway who kept telling me he wanted a certain "style" but couldn't describe that "style" for me, so I'm much less likely to send something back for major rewrites. --Laurie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:00:53 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Proofing fanfic In-Reply-To: <970819075043_-1603817770@emout18.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:50 AM -0400 8/19/97, No Name Available wrote: (but I know it's Laurie ... did you do that on purpose, Laurie?) >I, for one, feel that awful spelling and grammar get in the way of enjoying a >story. I've grumbled so much through some stories that weren't even >spell-checked that I can't even remember what they were about! That's why >I've offered (limited time) to do a bit of proof reading. That much I can do. >As for major editing, well, I've dealt with touchy writers--or one anyway who >kept telling me he wanted a certain "style" but couldn't describe that >"style" for me, so I'm much less likely to send something back for major >rewrites. I've been burned once ... and I learned my lesson. I do a lot of proofing for fanfic writers and I had someone send me an unreleased story a couple years ago asking for comments. I had never really spoken to this person before, so I gave the kind of comments I normally give - pointing out ideas that needed to be fleshed out, confusing areas, etc., as well as noting a few typos. Apparently I pissed the person off, however, because I never heard back. Not a thank you, not a email telling me off, nothing. Even when I wrote back asking that they do so. I can only assume that this person only wanted me to say "this story is great" and make no suggestions for improvement. It upset me more than it probably should have that I may have inadvertantly hurt someone's feelings, but I learned my lesson. Now, I always ask an author up front what sort of proofing they want, typo catching or plot comments. Usually they tell me they want "the works" but I always ask first now. I've also taken the time to write up comments after having read a released story telling the author that I enjoyed the story, but pointing out a couple areas that I would have liked to have seen explored more in depth. These are the sort of comments that I always appreciate getting. One author, however, told me "I don't write that way" ... hmmm, wonder if it was the same author that Laurie dealt with? In any case, I won't be spending my time writing to that person again. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net Family Pictures: http://www.toolcity.net/~kbrown/ KathyB on the IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 10:22:03 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: rating system and stuff Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >G Disney animated feature quality--nothing more than chaste >kisses, and NO SWEARING >PG "Stand by Me" (the movie) quality--nothing more than "the D >word," or "the H word." Passionate kisses ONLY. >PG-13 "Indiana Jones and the Temples of Doom" quality--some mild >violence, some mild obscenities, some passionate kisses, some >innuendoes.> >You get the general idea. If you think this is a good idea, Farah, feel >free to use it. It's not patented. : ) > >Carol A. I feel this is a good idea, but we don't need to get entirely descriptive. We all know that types of stories (like the ones Gorn wrote that we all know and love) are not to be posted at all on this list, because of the age of some subscribers. We don't need a very descriptive rating system. The author rates them (like below): G anyone can read this (but not Disney, I've seen The Little Mermaid "New seashells?) PG No passionate scenes. Some obscenities are okay. This is because I want people to know there are no kissing scenes other than: "Lois and Clark shared a nice kiss in the elevator and headed off to their desks." R Mild obsenities, brief description of "heaving breasts and moist lips." And lovely passionate scenes. This is fanfic list ratings, not like ratings that one would see at the movies. So, an R rating here is not like seeing the movie "Strip Tease" at the theatre. THe main difference between G and PG are the obsenities and between PG and R are "heaving breasts" If you get my meaning... ;) If you have something you think may have some problems with this list, make an announcement on the list that you have something and you need a second opinion. I realize there are always going to be people who may say "that's entirely too dirty for my little baby to read" :). I will handle them. They won't come after you. I am going to keep this post so it is printed in the "welcome" message. Other stuff: I have to have LISTSERV staff at IU set up digest and I will tell you the URL when the posts are listed on the web page here at IU. *Every* little typo will be indexed for all to see. :) Everything is going well other wise. Digest will be up and going by the end of the week. Later folcs! farah fchisham@indiana.edu ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 11:55:13 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Eleanor Swimmer Subject: Re: rating system and stuff I agree with all the ratings and stuff, but how about we find out exactly how many younger kids are on this list? I mean, I'm interested to know how many people we are talking about here:) ~~Eleanor ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 21:51:05 DFT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Enrico.Horn" Subject: rhens fanfic archive Hi everyone As you can see in the subject this mail is about the soon-to-be-gone fanfic archive. First i want to thank Rhen for maintaining this site because i love fanfic and being an internet folc for not very long i would have missed a lot if this archive never existed. Thank you very much Rhen Second i would like to say to whoever is going to create the new fanfic site that i am more than willing to help.I dont have much experience editing fanfic but i would like to try. Third I want to tell you that I have all the stories that are currently stored in the archive.And I dont know how long it will take after Sept 15 to create this new archive.So if you people are interested I would make the list of all stories available on the net and people can ask me per email about it.I have already written a small java applet which could be used for viewing the index. I know its not the best solution,it would be only temporary but i will do to help you out. Enrico Horn enhorn@wirtschaft.tu-ilmenau.de Farmboy on #loiscla ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:24:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Zoomway's site?? In-Reply-To: <970817191111_66696066@emout02.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 7:11 PM -0400 8/17/97, The Zoomway wrote: >http://members.aol.com:/zoomway/LCFIC > >It's drab, but I call it home Took a trip down memory lane and reread a few of the stories there. I'd read everything before, but one story in particular stuck out, in part because it was the one story that I hadn't associated with you. (I'd remembered the story as soon as I reread it, but hadn't remembered that it was yours.) The story was called The Best Man. Great story, as always. I need to ask ... did you ever write a sequel to it? The ending was seemingly intended to create a new L&C fanfic universe to set a series of stories in (like you did with the You Made Me Love You trilogy, which is still one of my all time favs). The show has deviated considerably from the universe created in TBM, but it's still a wonderful set up. I'd love to see more of Lois and Clark's dealings with Lex in this universe. So, if you don't have enough on your plate , consider this a request for you to file away in whatever circular file you use for such things. ;) Kathy :) ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net Family Pictures: http://www.toolcity.net/~kbrown/ KathyB on the IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:46:39 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Gary Subject: FANFIC: "Joy Ride" (1/1) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "Joy Ride" By Gary A Rudick (gar8434@rit.edu) Rated: PG with some innuendo ************ Clark finished adjusting the brakes on the his and her bicycles, which had finally come as a result of the end of the UPS strike. "Lois, honey, are you ready?" Clark called. Lois came down the stairs dressed in the identical outfit as her husband's: biker shorts and racing top. "How do I look?" Lois twirled. Amused that she already had her gloves, sunglasses and helmet on, he laughed when he said, "You look great, sweetheart." As they left their home and began to ride... "These shorts are tighter than that Ultrawoman suit." Lois complained. "I know." Clark grinned as he rode behind her. Lois looked over her shoulder and scolded him, "Where are we going?" "Holy Cross Cemetery." "A cemetery?!" "Yeah, one of the guys I use to play basketball with told me it was his favorite place to ride." "A cemetery?" Lois repeated. "It's just like a park except that people happen to be buried there." ************ When they finally reached the entrance, the car-sized gate was locked, but the person-sized gate was open. Stopping just inside the gate, Lois looked at the long gradual hill in front of her as the road disappeared into the tree-tops. "Does it end?" Lois asked. "It's only half-a-mile to the top and then you turn around a take one of the side roads down and do it all over again." Clark explained. Shifting into low gear, they rode up the slope. It really was a beautiful park-like cemetery, lots of mature trees and well-manicured grass. The sections changed from the newer in ground stones that could be mowed over to the older, larger headstones. At the top they saw the other car-sized gate which was open, and the funeral home across the street. "That makes a rather short funeral procession, doesn't it?" "Yeah, I guess so, but we're not here to show any disrespect to the dead or their family so when you go downhill control your speed and one other thing..." "What?" "Watch out for the squirrels!" ************ Lois and Clark went up and down the hills several times. No one was paying their respects this evening so they had the place to themselves and the squirrels. Clark was amused to see his Lois coast down the hills, spreading her legs off the pedals like a little girls and a "Weeeeeeeeeeeee!" Until a squirrel got in her way and froze from fright. Lois quickly tried to steer around the animal and lost control. Clark saw it and supersped in front of her and stopped her bike. Lois got off the bike and collapsed into Clark's arms, shaking. "Are you okay?" Clark asked feeling Lois' pounding heart. She nodded against his neck and turned to look at the squirrel. Another squirrel, presumably its mate, came over and seemed to be offering a comforting embrace just like Clark's. After a few moments the squirrels went over to and up and around their nearby tree. "C'mon Chip 'N Dale, take me home." Lois murmured. "Actually, Chip 'N Dale were chipmunks...not squirrels..." "Who was talking about Chipmunks?" Lois kissed Clark's neck. The End =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 18:17:51 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Becky Kuesters Subject: fanfic: Always Hang Up Your Clothes P 1/2 I'm going to get brave and post this, it's the first piece of fanfic I've written. I figure it's probably rated G/PG. This story came from an idea I had while trying to think of an explanation for that photo of Lois wrapped in Superman's cape standing next to Clark Kent. This photo (a first season promo shot, I believe) has always irritated me, even before I began watching the show. Maybe if their poses had been closer to what you see in the 'Steam' series of photos, it wouldn't bother me so much, but they just sort of stand there in this one and it looks strange. The story has no continuity and I've probably mixed characters in at a time they were no longer or not yet around, (hit delete right now if you can't stand another 'revelation' story ;-) and I apologize for any other discrepancies, but I've not seen the last half of season 1 or any of season 2 yet. Always Hang Up Your Clothes by Becky Kuesters tovie@aol.com "I can't believe you just pushed me off the dock like that," Lois snarled as she tried, unsuccessfully, to scrape some of the muck off herself. "Lois, in case you didn't notice, those men were shooting at us," Clark replied in his most reasonable tone. Lois snatched a blanket out of the back of her jeep, wrapped it around her shoulders and then turned back to Clark. "I didn't notice you joining me," she snarled. "So what if they were shooting at us, that water was filthy. I'm a mess. And I missed my source because *you* threw me in the lake!" "Lois, you'd have missed more than your source if one of those bullets hit you." "Yeah, well, so would you. What were you doing up on the dock with all those bullets flying around, think you're Superman or something?" Lois slammed the hatch and turned around, "Clark, I'm waiting for an explanation." "I...uh...um...," Clark coughed. "Ooooh, just never mind. Get in." Lois climbed up into the driver's seat and slammed the door. Clark sighed as he climbed in the jeep. Sometimes it seemed like things were going so well between him and Lois, and other times... Well, maybe pushing her in the lake hadn't been the brightest idea he ever had, but it was either that or trying to explain why bullets bounced off him. And somehow, that wasn't exactly the way he wanted her to find out he was Superman. ************** As Lois drove back to Metropolis, Clark sat quietly next to her, listening to her breathing. When it subsided to near normal and she quit growling under her breath, he decided to risk speaking. "We've got a story, Lois," he ventured. "Maybe not the one you wanted, but it's a story." "No, Clark. You've got a story. You were there when Superman stopped those thugs. You called the police. I was in the lake, trying not to drown - remember? I managed to get out of the water just in time to see Superman and the police leave." Lois jerked the jeep to a screeching halt in front of her apartment. "You can just walk h...why are there three cop cars in front of my apartment?" Clark looked up, startled, then scanned Lois' apartment. *************** "Inspector Henderson, what's going on here," Lois asked? "Ah, Ms. Lane, I could ask you the same thing," Henderson answered, looking her over. "We were on a story," Clark said. "Lois...ah...fell in the lake." As Lois turned to glare at Clark, the inspector shook his head. "Not your day today, is it, Ms. Lane? Well, someone broke into your apartment, made quite a mess, and then attacked your neighbor when she came over to see why you were throwing things around." "My neighbor? Starr? Is she okay?" "Oh, yes. She's fine. Wish I could say the same about the robber. He pushed her against the wall and took off down the stairs. She lobbed a tub of ice cream at him..." "Ice cream," Clark started laughing, "Starr took out a robber with a tub of ice cream?" "Uh, not exactly. She missed, but he slipped on the ice cream and fell down the stairs." *************** Lois pushed open the door to her apartment and froze. It was a wreck. Furniture was overturned, pictures had been ripped off the walls, drawers emptied and the contents scattered over all. Shocked, she moved towards the bedroom. Things were no better there. Her dresser drawers and closet had been emptied, the contents flung randomly about the room along with perfume bottles, cosmetics and jewelry. Dazed, she began to sink to the floor, but was stopped by a pair of strong arms. "Come on, Lois. It's 1 o'clock in the morning, you can stay at my place tonight," Clark said. "We can deal with this in the morning." Clark spoke briefly to Inspector Henderson and then pulled Lois towards the door. "But... my clothes," Lois gestured at her still damp and filthy clothing. "I need to..to shower... and change." "You can find something at my place," Clark said as he pushed her out the door. *********** continued in P 2 ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 18:19:02 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Becky Kuesters Subject: fanfic: Always Hang Up Your Clothes P 2/2 con't from P 1 ******* "Well, Lois, wanna tell me what, exactly, your source was suppose to tell you," Clark asked as they climbed back into her jeep. "What do you mean?" "Generally, if someone trashes your apartment they have a reason. Who'd you annoy recently?" Lois tossed her head. "Nobody." "Lois." "Oh, all right. You know I've been investigating that birthing center that was closed down? Well, I found out that the center only leased their property - and the lease holder, who is none other than Dr. Hannerty, tried four times in the last 3 months to break their lease. I've been trying to get an interview with him, but..." "Wait a minute," Clark said, "wasn't Dr. Hannerty the main witness against the center?" "Yup." "So who was your source?" "My source was a nurse who worked for him. She said she had proof that his evidence at the trial was faked." *********** "So, she didn't give you her name or number," Clark asked as he handed Lois a towel and started to rummage through his dresser looking for something she could sleep in. "No, she just..." Clark's head shot up as he heard, 'Help, Superman!' "Uh, just grab something out of my closet when you're done with your shower, Lois. I've a... got to...ah...to...a... check my... a...mailbox," Clark said and then turned and ran out of the room. "Clark, wait... Clark!" Lois shook her head and went into the bathroom. Check his mailbox, do this, do that , how does the man think he can have a relationship with me when he can't even finish a conversation with me? ************* Lois emerged from her shower in a much better mood. The heat and the pounding of the water on her skin seemed to have washed all her anger down the drain with the dirt from the lake. She wrapped a towel around herself and walked out into Clark's bedroom. It's two o'clock in the morning, she thought, and we're all alone in his apartment. Provided he comes back from checking his mail, what else can he possibly come up with that has to be done at this time of the night to stop us from having a serious conversation. And, just to make sure we're not interrupted, I think I'll unplug his phone. Lois pulled the phone jack out of the wall, and then returned to Clark's closet, looking for something to wear. Too bad there's not likely to be anything in here conducive to romance, she thought as she reached for the closet door. As she pulled it open, a stack of clothes fell out around her feet. Clark Kent, Lois laughed to herself, surely your mother taught you to hang your clothes up. She grinned again, Clark kept such a neat house for a guy, it was nice to discover he had some normal vices. Just like a man, stuff everything in the closet to clean up for company. I wonder if he leaves the lid off the toothpaste or the toilet seat up, she mused as she bent over and began picking up the clothes. Now, should I be nice and put these away, or just... Lois frowned, she'd nearly reached the bottom of the pile when she saw it - a glimmer of bright red and blue, colors she was very familiar with. Dropping everything else, she snatched at those colors - Superman's suit and cape, but what were they doing in Clark's closet? Clark does Superman's laundry? Superman and Clark are friends, so Superman stores his spare suit here? Clark and Superman are having an affair? A dozen other even unlikelier scenarios ran through her mind as she tried, unsuccessfully, to block the one she'd been half suspecting for some time now. As she let her mind actually consider it, she slowly whispered the words out loud, "Clark Kent is Superman." And then, as if the act of saying it out loud broke something within her, the words made it reality and she slowly sank to her knees. It would explain the running off, and so many other things... but not why he hadn't told her. Why he had lied to her. Angry now, she beat her fists in frustration against the red and blue fabric pooled on the floor, wishing it were him. Oh, sure, she could forgive the lying in the beginning, when they didn't really know each other; but now, when they were so close, best friends, on the verge of becoming more? Surely he should have, would have confessed something like this to her. Did she really know him after all? Then she cringed as the reality of Clark and Superman being the same person caused her mind to go off on a totally different tangent and she began to remember the way she'd treated each of them... things she'd said to each one and about each one to the other, and she suddenly wished she could erase the last 2 years of her life. Then she realized that they both had problems and if he could forgive her and still care for her after the way she'd treated him, couldn't, shouldn't she be able to do the same with him for not telling her the truth? Suddenly her thoughts were interrupted by the sound of the door opening and Clark calling her name. Yes, Lois thought as she dropped her towel and snatched up Superman's cape, she could forgive him, but first she had to get a confession out of him. Draping the cape around her bare figure, she strode out into the living room, "Hey, Clark," she called, "didn't your mom ever tell you you should always hang your clothes up?" the beginning... Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman and Superman are copyrighted by DC Comics, Warner Brothers, etc...... and were used without permission. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 20:49:01 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Gary Subject: Fwd: Fanfic idea MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Return-path: >Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 17:43:17 -0700 (PDT) >From: Linda Mason >Subject: Fwd: Rejected posting to LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU >To: gar8434@ritvax.isc.rit.edu >X-Originating-IP: [129.21.10.121] > >Hi Gary, > >I tried to post this to the Fanfic list but I didn't subscribe first >could you please post it for me? > >Thanks, >Linda >deanishot@hotmail.com > >>From Fri Aug 15 18:30:05 1997 >>Received: from piano (129.79.5.189) by listserv.indiana.edu (LSMTP for >Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.B26F1700@listserv.indiana.edu>; Fri, >15 Aug 1997 20:27:48 -0500 >>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 20:27:48 -0500 >>From: "L-Soft list server at Indiana University (1.8c)" >> >>Subject: Rejected posting to >LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU >>To: deanishot@HOTMAIL.COM >> >>You are not authorized to send mail to the LOISCLA-GENERAL-L list >from your >>deanishot@HOTMAIL.COM account. You might be authorized to send to the >list from >>another of your accounts, or perhaps when using another mail >program which >>generates slightly different addresses, but LISTSERV has no way to >associate >>this other account or address with yours. If you need assistance or if >you have >>any question regarding the policy of the LOISCLA-GENERAL-L list, please >contact >>the list owners: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L-request@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU. >> >>------------------------ Rejected message (37 lines) >-------------------------- >>Received: from f43.hotmail.com by listserv.indiana.edu (LSMTP for >Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.B21B2AA0@listserv.indiana.edu>; Fri, >15 Aug 1997 20:27:48 -0500 >>Received: (from root@localhost) >> by f43.hotmail.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA17578; >> Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:27:47 -0700 (PDT) >>Message-Id: <199708160127.SAA17578@f43.hotmail.com> >>Received: from 129.21.10.135 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; >> Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:27:46 PDT >>X-Originating-IP: [129.21.10.135] >>From: "Linda Mason" >>To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU >>Subject: Fanfic idea >>Content-Type: text/plain >>Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 18:27:46 PDT >> >>Hi all! >> >>I've been watching "A Wedding Story" on The Learning Channel and >>I've been thinking that it would've been much better for the series >>had the wedding episode been more like them. >> >>1)The bride and groom discuss how they met/first date. >>2)Significant relationship event(s) >>3)Proposal >>4)Family and Friends(Bridesmaids/Best Man) >>5)Wedding Planning/Rehearsal >>6)Wedding Day/Ceremony/Reception >> >>I know other fanfics about the wedding have been written, but they >>are all written from Lois and Clarks POV not from a documentary POV. >> >>What do you think? >> >>Linda >>deanishot@hotmail.com >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 18:54:16 +0300 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Zohar Gilboa Subject: FANFIC: Always Hang Up Your Clothes and Joy Ride Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I really liked both stories. It feels good to read something nice and short in the morning. :-) Bye, Zohar Gilboa *---------------------------------* Lois: "Will you mary me?" | | Clark: "Who's asking? Lois, | http://www.fman.com/loisnclark/ | or Ultra Woman?" | rami_gil@netvision.net.il or | Lois: "Who's answering? | sman@geocities.com or | Clark, or Superman?" | ClarkKent@for-president.com or | Clark: "I'm answering" | Happy_Guy@smileyface.com | Lois: "I'm waiting" | | Clark: "Yes." *---------------------------------* Ultra Woman ; Lois and Clark ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 16:06:48 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Breezy Walsh Subject: Re: rating system and stuff In a message dated 97-08-19 12:04:30 EDT, you write: << I agree with all the ratings and stuff, but how about we find out exactly how many younger kids are on this list? >> I think this would be a great idea too. I mean, if the youngest people here are say 16, I don't think there is much that we need to hide (I am speaking from a personal POV) I mean I don't read any nfic or anything because it's my own personal choice and because I am not old enough to read it, but I'm pretty sure of what it contains because of some of my other buddies who have read some and kinda, but not really passed along the basic idea of it and knowing that I can say that I hear that kind of stuff in school all the time and a whole lot worse. I think that you actually hear more in school than you do any place else. I'm sorry if I'm getting carried away or boring, but I am happy to be back to the warmth of my home and away from that stupid camp ground. Love you guys, Breezy "For all who want to know I am 16" Walsh ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 20:56:24 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: rhens fanfic archive On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 21:51:05 DFT "Enrico.Horn" >Third I want to tell you that I have all the stories that are currently stored >in the archive.And I dont know how long it will take after Sept 15 to create >this new archive.So if you people are interested I would make the list of all >stories available on the net and people can ask me per email about it.I have >already written a small java applet which could be used for viewing the index. >I know its not the best solution,it would be only temporary but i will do to >help you out. Pardon my ignorance, but...WHAT in the HECK is a java applet? You're talking WAY over my head, here.... Thanks, Carol A. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 20:31:37 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: NEW FANFIC ARCHIVE :) On Tue, 19 Aug 1997 07:50:44 -0400 No Name Available writes: >> It is those of us who feel the editing is NECESSARY who are being retentive.< > >I, for one, feel that awful spelling and grammar get in the way of enjoying a >story. I've grumbled so much through some stories that weren't even >spell-checked that I can't even remember what they were about! Actually, I feel the same way. That's one of the reasons I stopped reading those inch-thick romance novels. Their proofreaders must be far-sighted or SOMETHING....Anyway, the publishers should NEVER let something with that shotty editing (e.g. "Get out of here, before I call the sheriff?") hit the bookstore shelves, IMHO. As I have said before, too, some of the fanfic I get as submission needs a lot of work before I can read it to enjoy it....Of course, THAT's including lack of format from being e-mailed in TEXT ONLY FORMAT....Gotta give some leeway for that.... STILL...it is VERY DIFFICULT to read a story with confusing punctuation or wording, even for someone who doesn't care what's correct. If it's confusing, EVERYONE notices. It's almost as bad as reading Nathaniel Hawthorne's A SCARLET LETTER and having to stop every three words to look something up in the dictionary. (I had THAT experience in high school. It was the only literature exam I ever failed.) The point here is: If a story does not flow--whether the reason is confusing punctuation, confusing wording, or something else that I'm not remembering--the reader gets bored and stops reading. This would be an unfortunate event in a number of cases because there are a lot of good writers out there who just need some extra help with spelling, punctuation, phraseology, etc. We even have one in my Ann Arbor/Ypsilanti-based writers' group. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. : ) Carol A. Editor, TSCG ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 05:52:26 -0600 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Debby Stark Subject: Re: Proofing fanfic Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 10:00 AM 8/19/97 -0400, Kathy B wrote: >At 7:50 AM -0400 8/19/97, No Name Available wrote: >>I, for one, feel that awful spelling and grammar get in the way of enjoying a >>story. I've grumbled so much through some stories that weren't even >>spell-checked that I can't even remember what they were about! agreed here--I like to sink into a story and when bad grammar that doesn't fit with the story (by that I mean, someone speaking it in dialog is okay but not within the text descriptions) or bad spelling can jerk me right out of the play I've developed... I can make allowances for those who do not speak/use English as a first language though. (KB wrote) >I've been burned once ... and I learned my lesson. I do a lot of proofing >for fanfic writers... Like for me (Hi, KB!). She's good. All my proofers are :D When I first realized I needed proofers, I sent D2 to some person who really did a great job on pointing out grammar errors and typos. I fixed them all, use some of that person's pointers even to this day, and I'm sure I thanked that person, too... but I didn't ask them to proof again because all they did was proof. I realized by the time I got to the end of their excellent technical work that I had no idea if they even *liked* my story... Maybe I should have specifically asked for an opinion about that, but being new at doing this, I didn't. So while I was grateful that it went out looking technically better than it might have, I wasn't sure how it would be received otherwise (that on top of it having been difficult to write to begin with; I had put it off a long time already). Now I ask my proofers (hi out there!) to not only proofread but to tell me if the story *works*. I'll hope they like it, too. Sometimes *I* don't like it much and wind up rewriting a lot of it. ;) While the story is away being proofed, I tend not to look at it so that when I have gathered all the comments and go in to apply them, the story looks fresh again... and I can see new possibilities :) I proof for people and tend to inject a lot of opinions (as they well know, whew!). Sometimes their stories send me off on flights of fancy--and I'll include these. I may not always like the story (we all have different takes and ideas), but I can usually see good, creative ideas in it. I think we're all pretty darn nice people for doing all this work for the sheer pleasure of it :) Debby Debby@swcp.com scripts scripts scripts have I said I have... L&C scripts? ;) ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:51:34 DFT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Enrico.Horn" Subject: Re: rhens fanfic archive In-Reply-To: <19970820.190234.27726.6.jvladdisons@juno.com>; from "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" at Aug 19, 97 8:56 pm Hi Carol > > Pardon my ignorance, but...WHAT in the HECK is a java applet? You're > talking WAY over my head, here.... > A java applet is a program written in java which is a language similar to C++.Java applets can be executed in html pages via the applet tag if you browser supports java. Hope that will answer your question Enrico Horn enhorn@wirtschaft.tu-ilmenau.de Farmboy on #loiscla ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 18:10:36 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Gary Subject: TAN: Java and applets In-Reply-To: <199708211951.VAA20778@thales.wirtschaft.tu-ilmenau.de> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 09:51 PM 8/21/97 +0000, you wrote: >Hi Carol >> >> Pardon my ignorance, but...WHAT in the HECK is a java applet? You're >> talking WAY over my head, here.... >> >A java applet is a program written in java which is a language similar >to C++.Java applets can be executed in html pages via the >applet tag if you browser supports java. > >Hope that will answer your question > Hardly, try these more official answers... Applet is a diminutive form of app (application), and it refers to simple, single-function programs that often ship with a larger product. Programs such as Windows' Calculator, File Manager, and Notepad are examples of applets. and Sun Microsystems' Java is a programming language for adding animation and other action to Web sites. The small applications (called applets) that Java creates can play back on any graphical system that's Web-ready, but your Web browser has to be Java-capable for you to see it. According to Sun's description, Java is a "simple, object-oriented, distributed, interpreted, robust, secure, architecture-neutral, portable, high-performance, multithreaded, dynamic, buzzword-compliant, general-purpose programming language." And Sun should know. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:49:33 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: Re: rhens fanfic archive Enrico-- On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:51:34 DFT "Enrico.Horn" writes: >> Pardon my ignorance, but...WHAT in the HECK is a java applet? You're >> talking WAY over my head, here.... >> >A java applet is a program written in java which is a language similar >to C++.Java applets can be executed in html pages via the >applet tag if you browser supports java. > >Hope that will answer your question Not at all.... : } Thanks for trying, though.... I know a lot about how to use the advance features of office software, but ask me how to write the program, and I'm a dunce.... : ) Carol A. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 21:46:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" Subject: List members should be nicer to those who don't have time to sit & type all day Comments: To: LOISCLA@vm.ege.edu.tr I got a coolly polite request from a list member--didn't even tell me WHICH list--to quit posting multiple posts in one day. I have seen many people get chastised for this, myself included when I was new to LOISCLA. Personally, I think it is stupid to put someone down like that. People join these lists because they're fans of Lois & Clark. What better way to welcome them than to flame them for being enthusiastic? (Yes, that *is* angry sarcasm.) These lists are supposed to be fun, a way for fans of L&C to unite and share a fondness for the show. Instead they are becoming arenas where new and inexperienced--or in my case, *busy*--people get thrown to the dogs. That is one heck of a note. I lurked for quite a while, but this has been disturbing me more and more, especially since a young teenager got thrown off because she had never been on an e-mail list before and didn't no that sending a reply to a post would distribute that reply to the entire list. She was just a kid! Should we expect her to be a computer wizard? Heck, *I* didn't even know the above at first! Someone had to tell *me,* too! I think we all just need to relax and enjoy the fact that we are able to communicate with other L&C fans from around the globe--and QUIT NITPICKING! Fandom generally encourages enthusiasm, and enthusiasm generally encourages verbosity. Have a little patience, for Pete's sake! And, as I said in my reply below, if you get tired of reading somebody, SKIP HIS/HER MESSAGES! Okay--your turn. BTW, this is what I said to the person who e-mailed me about posting five times (yes, only five) in one day to whatever list it is he/she was talking about. I have chosen to keep him/her anonymous out of respect for the privacy of my fellow human beings. =============== Begin copied message: =============== Point #1: I usually keep my posts to a minimum and keep them short and sweet, OR I *do* post a comb-post. The reason for this exception was a very busy schedule that kept me away from the computer for 3 days, which left me with a grand total of 42 messages when I got and sent my e-mail. ZOIKS! A lot of those messages were from the list, and, as I was still pressed for time, I responded to them one at a time, rather than taking the time to print all the posts, compose a comb-post, and type it in. I'm sure you understand. I'm an adult with adult time constraints (sans children or a husband), and I can't always prioritize what the list would like to see. However, if I see something to which I feel I have a contribution, I will put my 2 cents in, no matter what shape my response takes. Sorry if I *annoyed* you, but that's the only way that's possible for me sometimes. And believe me, *five* is *nothing* compared to some newbies I've seen who reply to EVERY SINGLE POST. *I* only reply to those that I feel I have something worth replying. Sorry if you disagreed with my judgment on my worthiness. : ( Point #2: To which list are you referring? I'm on LOISCLA, the fanfic list, and Debby's nfanfic list. I assume it's one of the first two. Point #3 (THE GRAND FINALE): Who are YOU to tell me what to or not to do on the list? Do you OWN it? Do you MAINTAIN it? Neither Farah nor Zoom has EVER complained about my postings....Well, not since Farah and I cleared up "the nfanfic incident." ANYWAY, I have just as much right to post on this list--without fear of being flamed every time--as the next person. In summary, if you don't like reading my posts, SKIP OVER THEM! For God's sake, why do people have to be so damned grouchy? This stuff is supPOSED to be FUN!!! Crap on it! Regards, Carol A. p.s. I had a VERY BAD DAY at work. Thanks for being the icing on the cake. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:15:18 +0000 Reply-To: uni@sprynet.com Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Comments: Authenticated sender is From: uni Subject: Re: List members should be nicer to those who don't have time to In-Reply-To: <19970821.224629.12254.7.jvladdisons@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I got a coolly polite request from a list member--didn't even tell me > WHICH list--to quit posting multiple posts in one day. I have seen many > people get chastised for this, myself included when I was new to LOISCLA. > How sad Is this what we've come too? I haven't posted much myself of late because of Lara but I'm stunned to realize that there is so much nitpicking that we would drive people off the list. Have we truly forgotten how we ourselves felt in the begining finding others that loved L&C as much as we did. Whats happened to the enthusiasm that most of us had in reading posts? I don't remember anyone counting individuals posts or limiting the amount of posts from a person, all thoughts were welcome. Aren't others who've just realized there is a list or just joined entitled to enjoy that same newness that enthusiasm? Is there so much currently happening with L&C re. cancellation and not even a rerun in sight that a few posts bubbling over with enthusiasm for sharing L&C with others that are also suppose to enjoy L&C is prohibited now? If thats so how sad because we've lost a truly enjoyable experience somewhere along the way or become so jaded we've forgotten either way we've lost something special. ************************************************** A heart is not judged by how much you love, but by how much you are loved by others... Wizard of Oz to the Tin Man ************************************************* uni@sprynet.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 10:51:32 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Eleanor Swimmer Subject: New Fic Hi List! I have a fanfic I have written, I'm not sure if it's good enough to post on this list or to steamy or something, is there any way to get it rated? I've posted it on AOL boards and have yet to be told by a host that it is too steamy or something, but I feel with all this discussion I'd better get it rated and not make anyone mad! :) Well if there is a way to get this done, please let me know:) ~Eleanor~ ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 03:58:11 +0300 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Zohar Gilboa Subject: Confession... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Ok, I'll come out and say it... I sent Ethel \"Terri\" Addison the message... I didn't mean to sound negative in any way and I already e-mailed her privately.. Please don't flame, I just get a lot of e-mail a day anyway, and that particular day she posted 7 messages and it cluttered my mailbox. If it happened to LOISCLA I would've said nothing because I'm on digest, but here I can't go over to digest and I get a lot more e-mail with the new list. And I want to be in it, just not hear the same one posting 7 times. I didn't know she was away or had a bad day. I'm sorry I e-mailed her in the first place for starting this thread... And BTW, I didn't try to upset or annoy you, you were the first one to "attack" me! And I'm not going to participate in this argument anymore so don't bother to e-mail me privately, I'll only reply the other subjects. I could have said more but I didn't (not in private e-mail either). I don't want to bring this to the list because it basically is a personal thing (which you BTW brought to the list, not me!)... Zohar Gilboa rami_gil@netvision.net.il ; sman@geocities.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/2301 Always remember you're unique, just like everybody else. ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 00:51:54 -0500 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Farah Meitzen Chisham Subject: digest Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I will get digest to be offered tonight. Even if I have to stay up late. I am appreciative to those who have been very patient. I have the info that I can set it up, I just have to figure how to tell LISTSERV so it'll allow me to "turn it on" Thanks folcs. double posting is not a problem, but more than 5 in one day can get annoying, but not so awful that we must fight. I perfer (sp:):):) us to fight about the lois and clark cancellation. It's much more fun to pick on people who were in charge of cancelling it. By the way, the last few fanfics are great! Keep it up (and talk about them some!)! farah ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 18:09:30 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: The Zoomway Subject: Re: Zoomway's site?? In a message dated 97-08-20 07:02:54 EDT, kbrown@TOOLCITY.NET (Kathy Brown) writes: << The show has deviated considerably from the universe created in TBM, but it's still a wonderful set up. I'd love to see more of Lois and Clark's dealings with Lex in this universe. >> Oh yeah, The Best Man, I'd forgotten I hinted at a sequel on that one To be brief for anyone unfamiliar. I had wanted to restore Lex to his old glory days of his veneer of respectability, wealth, and evil ;) I wrote the story sometime after The Phoenix obviously, because I did make mention of the bald Lex in a prison outfit. Anyway, in Vat Man, Lex had Superman cloned, and I figured with Lex's huge ego, he'd have had himself cloned as well (please be forgiving, this was written way before the wedding clone arc ;) I had the supposition in the story that Lex's clone usurped the real Lex (with Nigel's help), and hid him in that underground bunker we saw in All Shook Up (it had food and supplies) Then Asabi freed the real Lex after the phony Lex was safely behind bars. Oh well, let's say the real Lex was less than pleased that Lois was engaged to Clark Kent. He could understand her being engaged to Superman, a worthy mate and adversary, but not Kent. It really ticked Lex off that Lois seemed strong now, and somehow Kent had something to do with that, and so he assigned Asabi the task of finding out all he could about Lois's fiance. Soooo, that's where the story ended. You're right, Kathy, with the series long since diverging in another direction, I'd have to continue from my own time line, not that that isn't fun ;) One neat thing though. I wrote a scene of Clark approaching Lois from behind, while she's sitting, and bending over her and kissing her kind of upside down, because I'd always wanted to see that kind of kiss done of the show. So I was really happy to see that type of kiss done for real in I've Got You Under My Skin ;) Zoom (maybe after I get the four fics I'm working on finished, I'll return to the Lex redeux, it's fun too because now Lois believes Clark that Lex is rotten, and I always wanted to see them take Lex on as a team ;) ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 00:49:59 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: To Archive Editor Volunteers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" This message is for everyone who answered Demi's plea for editors for the new Fanfic Archive. Thank you so much for your enthusiasm and your patience. FoLCs are wonderful people. :) We have received email from many, many volunteers, and we now have the difficult task of whittling that list down. We hope to make a final selection soon, and will be contacting everyone who volunteered as soon as we can. We had hoped to finalize our staff by now but things have been very, very busy, and new volunteer offers seem to be coming in almost daily. Thanks again for your understanding. Kathy _________________________________ Kathy Brown Editor-In-Chief Lois and Clark Fanfic Archive kbrown@toolcity.net KathyB on IRC _________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 00:59:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: To Fanfic Writers and Readers (Archive info) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello everyone. As you may or may not know, Rhen Brink started a Fanfiction Mailing List in 1993 when Lois & Clark had only just begun in the US and Canada. There have been fanfiction stories dedicated to "The New Adventures Of Superman" ever since! And while that mailing list is no longer alive, an Archive was set up by Rhen and Lauren W. to house the many creative talents of the FoLC. As of Sept. 15, Rhen will be retiring from active duty as the keeper of the Archive, and a new staff is taking over where she left off. Many of you have asked us whether we are planning to house the nearly 700 stories that are currently on the Archive at the new site. Our answer to that is Yes! All of the stories will be moved over to the new Archive. (/me waits while the applause dies down. ) We did, however, want to alert all of the authors with stories on the archive of the change in managment and location. You have all contributed to making the archive a success, for what is a fanfic archive without fanfic? That said, if anyone who has written a fanfic and *doesn't* want their story to be contained on the new archive for some reason, please let either myself or DJ know. No need to contact us if you are fine with the change in location. Kathy Brown DJ Riter kbrown@toolcity.net djriter@aol.com This notice will be posted to the LOISCLA listserv, the AOL MB's and to the new FANFIC listserv. If you know an author who does not subscribe to any of these places, please feel free to pass this message along. Also, could someone with access to Compuserve or Prodigy, contact me so I could have you post this message there as well? (But let me know first, instead of just posting it, so we don't have this message posted multiple times. :)) Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net Family Pictures: http://www.toolcity.net/~kbrown/ KathyB on the IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 24 Aug 1997 23:46:20 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Genine E Murray Subject: Is anyone here?!? :) Hey FoLCs ~ Forgive me for sending this fairly unnecessary post, but I haven't heard from you FoLCs in a while! I'm still subscribed, and I know *this* list isn't down, so I guess no one feels like posting! :) Another question, while I'm posting... is LOISCLA down? Haven't heard from it either, and I sent a "QUERY" message to it, and never got a response. Just wondering... I go back to lurking now! =D Genine ~ Clark : "I have loved you from the beginning." Lois : "And I'll love you 'till the end." BGDF, Lois & Clark : The New Adventures of Superman - This Fall on TNT! Genine (GemFoLC51@juno.com - SuperGeM on IRC) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 00:02:42 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Kathy Brown Subject: Re: Is anyone here?!? :) In-Reply-To: <19970824.234737.2862.3.GemFoLC51@juno.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" At 11:46 PM -0400 8/24/97, Genine E Murray wrote: >down, so I guess no one feels like posting! :) Another question, while >I'm posting... is LOISCLA down? Haven't heard from it either, and I sent >a "QUERY" message to it, and never got a response. If you sent a Query to Loiscla and didn't get a response, the list is down. That's the best way to find out. Kathy ______________________ Kathy Brown kbrown@toolcity.net Family Pictures: http://www.toolcity.net/~kbrown/ KathyB on the IRC ______________________ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 00:03:46 -0400 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Gary Subject: Re: Is anyone here?!? :) In-Reply-To: <19970824.234737.2862.3.GemFoLC51@juno.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" We're all busy watching TNT!!! or making plans to buy Variety... calculating how many tapes in SP,EP,SLP mode for 88 hours of LNC watching tapes of TNT, emailing TNT, did I mention watching TNT,TBS,CNN? The lists are up...just quiet... At 11:46 PM 8/24/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hey FoLCs ~ > >Forgive me for sending this fairly unnecessary post, but I haven't heard >from you FoLCs in a while! I'm still subscribed, and I know *this* list >isn't >down, so I guess no one feels like posting! :) Another question, while >I'm posting... is LOISCLA down? Haven't heard from it either, and I sent >a "QUERY" message to it, and never got a response. Just wondering... I >go back to lurking now! =D > >Genine ~ > >Clark : "I have loved you from the beginning." >Lois : "And I'll love you 'till the end." >BGDF, Lois & Clark : The New Adventures of Superman - This Fall on TNT! >Genine (GemFoLC51@juno.com - SuperGeM on IRC) > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 08:47:47 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Vicki Krell Subject: Re: Is anyone here?!? :) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi everyone. I can't tell if my posts are showing up or not, since they're not showing up in my mail, and I no longer get one of those confirmations that my mail was successfully sent. Therefore, I'm not sure if my new server at work is screwing up, or if my notes are going through and I'm just not seeing them, either here or on LOISCLA. If anyone would be kind enough to drop me a quick note to let me know if they see my posts, I'd appreciate it! Thanks, guys! Vicki (who's jealous because my husband's on vacation this week and I'm at work!!! ) Vicki.Krell@ASU.Edu -----Original Message----- From: Genine E Murray [SMTP:gemfolc51@JUNO.COM] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 1997 8:46 PM To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: Is anyone here?!? :) Hey FoLCs ~ Forgive me for sending this fairly unnecessary post, but I haven't heard from you FoLCs in a while! I'm still subscribed, and I know *this* list isn't down, so I guess no one feels like posting! :) Another question, while I'm posting... is LOISCLA down? Haven't heard from it either, and I sent a "QUERY" message to it, and never got a response. Just wondering... I go back to lurking now! =D Genine ~ Clark : "I have loved you from the beginning." Lois : "And I'll love you 'till the end." BGDF, Lois & Clark : The New Adventures of Superman - This Fall on TNT! Genine (GemFoLC51@juno.com - SuperGeM on IRC) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 09:02:58 -0700 Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: Vicki Krell Subject: Re: Is anyone here?!? :) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ROTFLMAO!! Gary, thanks for that post! It's a great way to start my day at work, laughing because that's exactly what I've been doing!! I watched part of the Blues Brothers this weekend, looking for commercials, which I saw (yay!), and planning on how many tapes I need to buy at Price Club/Costco - I can just see my husband's expression if I decide to tape on SP for 88 episodes!!! Haven't yet mailed TNT, but hey, I have time!!! Have a great day everyone! Vicki Vicki.Krell@ASU.Edu -----Original Message----- From: Gary [SMTP:gar8434@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU] Sent: Sunday, August 24, 1997 9:04 PM To: LOISCLA-GENERAL-L@LISTSERV.INDIANA.EDU Subject: Re: Is anyone here?!? :) We're all busy watching TNT!!! or making plans to buy Variety... calculating how many tapes in SP,EP,SLP mode for 88 hours of LNC watching tapes of TNT, emailing TNT, did I mention watching TNT,TBS,CNN? The lists are up...just quiet... At 11:46 PM 8/24/97 -0400, you wrote: >Hey FoLCs ~ > >Forgive me for sending this fairly unnecessary post, but I haven't heard >from you FoLCs in a while! I'm still subscribed, and I know *this* list >isn't >down, so I guess no one feels like posting! :) Another question, while >I'm posting... is LOISCLA down? Haven't heard from it either, and I sent >a "QUERY" message to it, and never got a response. Just wondering... I >go back to lurking now! =D > >Genine ~ > >Clark : "I have loved you from the beginning." >Lois : "And I'll love you 'till the end." >BGDF, Lois & Clark : The New Adventures of Superman - This Fall on TNT! >Genine (GemFoLC51@juno.com - SuperGeM on IRC) > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | Gary A. Rudick mailto:gar8434@rit.edu | | "You decide what you feel heaven is worth" - Deborah Gibson, TWYH | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 20:30:28 DFT Reply-To: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" Sender: "Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman" From: "Enrico.Horn" Subject: Re: rhens fanfic archive In-Reply-To: <19970821.224629.12254.8.jvladdisons@juno.com>; from "Ethel \"Terri\" Addison" at Aug 21, 97 9:49 pm Hi Carol > > Not at all.... : } > > Thanks for trying, though.... > > I know a lot about how to use the advance features of office software, > but ask me how to write the program, and I'm a dunce.... : ) > > Carol A. > If there is anything special that you would like to know you can ask me privately and i hope to answer your question to your satisfaction. Enrico Horn enhorn@wirtschaft.tu-ilmenau.de Farmboy on #loiscla